[RBW] Bombadil on the Trail
Had a chance to ride the Red Cedar Trail in Wisconsin this weekend between storms. Hot day, nice trail, great bike. http://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/5971411349/in/photostream Still having some issues with posts not showing up using the new format. (I'm on a Mac using Safari) I'll give it one more shot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9SKxjff1zHwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bombadil on the Trail
Fantastic, Marty, it looks like a great outing. I confess, however, that I was secretly hoping to see that spotless Bomb a little muddy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bombadil on the Trail
Well, I tried to hit all the standing water and soupy sections along the way, but that silver paint just shrugs it off! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UOGV-legxRsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Riders Brooks Saddle....?
Nitto as well... On Jul 22, 9:40 pm, Roger rogerdhod...@gmail.com wrote: The story I'd like to hear is to what degree Rivendell propped up Brooks in the late '90s. Sure, Harris and Wallingford sold some, but to my memory, Riv's tireless advocacy largely resurrected the US market for Brooks after it had almost died. I've never seen numbers but it wouldnt surprise me if they accounted for over half of US sales. With Brooks, Rivendell wasn't just another vendor. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Looks like that 2TT thing's catching on in a BIG way!
http://www.whotv.com/sports/ragbrai/ But who's going to ride this thing? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nigel Smythe Tweed Country Bag
Payment pending... On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Curtis Schmitt curtisrschm...@gmail.com wrote: Great Condition. Discontinued Green Tweed. $89 Shipped -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nigel Smythe Tweed Country Bag
Sold. Thank you all for your interest. On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Curtis Schmitt curtisrschm...@gmail.com wrote: Payment pending... On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Curtis Schmitt curtisrschm...@gmail.com wrote: Great Condition. Discontinued Green Tweed. $89 Shipped -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Headset Issue
The OP's issue is exactly why I bought a lot of my own bike tools decades ago. Seems like the LBS's have gotten worse over the years, too, and I notice that many of them now employ part time kids. Can't necessarily fault 'em for that; I realize they don't make a lot of money. But if there are just some things that, if you want them done right, you more or less have to take the bull by the horns yourself. On Jul 25, 12:45 am, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Too tight. If it only indexed at the straight-ahead position, you'd probably have a bigger problem, but tight all the way through the range of motion is a tight headset. If you have the wrenches, back off the locknut, loosen the headset cup a quarter turn, then hold that baby steady while you tighten the locknut back down. Keep doing this until the steering frees up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Headset Issue
This bike has been to two shops this month--the first one didn't even consider the headset (it was loose when they returned it) and failed to properly tune the drivetrain while charging me north of $100 for their recommended deluxe tune-up. Not happy. At the second shop where I bought the bike I should have given it a quick test drive and I'm sure the mechanic (not a part-time kid in this instance) would have got the adjustment right, just wish I would have caught it before I took the bike home. This does speak to the need to do it yourself so today I'm out hunting for the wrenches. I have every intention of buying tools and learning how to do most of my own work. Our local bicycle collective offers a free Park Tool class and I'm looking forward to attending. On Jul 25, 9:13 am, George Schick bhim...@gmail.com wrote: The OP's issue is exactly why I bought a lot of my own bike tools decades ago. Seems like the LBS's have gotten worse over the years, too, and I notice that many of them now employ part time kids. Can't necessarily fault 'em for that; I realize they don't make a lot of money. But if there are just some things that, if you want them done right, you more or less have to take the bull by the horns yourself. On Jul 25, 12:45 am, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Too tight. If it only indexed at the straight-ahead position, you'd probably have a bigger problem, but tight all the way through the range of motion is a tight headset. If you have the wrenches, back off the locknut, loosen the headset cup a quarter turn, then hold that baby steady while you tighten the locknut back down. Keep doing this until the steering frees up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: This bike has been to two shops this month--the first one didn't even consider the headset (it was loose when they returned it) and failed to properly tune the drivetrain while charging me north of $100 for their recommended deluxe tune-up. Not happy. At the second shop where I bought the bike I should have given it a quick test drive and I'm sure the mechanic (not a part-time kid in this instance) would have got the adjustment right, just wish I would have caught it before I took the bike home. This does speak to the need to do it yourself so today I'm out hunting for the wrenches. I have every intention of buying tools and learning how to do most of my own work. Our local bicycle collective offers a free Park Tool class and I'm looking forward to attending. A place to start: http://bicycletutor.com/overhaul-threaded-headset/ I've found his videos to be easy to understand and correct. -sv On Jul 25, 9:13 am, George Schick bhim...@gmail.com wrote: The OP's issue is exactly why I bought a lot of my own bike tools decades ago. Seems like the LBS's have gotten worse over the years, too, and I notice that many of them now employ part time kids. Can't necessarily fault 'em for that; I realize they don't make a lot of money. But if there are just some things that, if you want them done right, you more or less have to take the bull by the horns yourself. On Jul 25, 12:45 am, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Too tight. If it only indexed at the straight-ahead position, you'd probably have a bigger problem, but tight all the way through the range of motion is a tight headset. If you have the wrenches, back off the locknut, loosen the headset cup a quarter turn, then hold that baby steady while you tighten the locknut back down. Keep doing this until the steering frees up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Favorite Tools
Sorry, Darin = one r And BTW - my favorite grease has to be Campagnolo - the creamy cream-colored good-smelling stuff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LDTlBPtPVDAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue
Dunno if yours is a Tange or Shimano with the cages, but to prevent a notchy feeling in the headset some folks recommend removing the ball bearings from the bottom cage, adding enough to fill the void (save one or two), and re-installing the headset with the lower bearings 'loose' between the races. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/k_iLnfYxLdUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Looks like that 2TT thing's catching on in a BIG way!
Well, the tt is level and it has the proper fist full of seatpost showing. Many will approve non those grounds alone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UdEkasc5OdkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Favorite Tools
Marty wrote: BTW - my favorite grease has to be Campagnolo - the creamy cream-colored good-smelling stuff If you gotta have Campy grease: http://www.cycleclubsports.com/p-11288-campagnolo-professional-grease-100ml.aspx As for tools, if you have Campy or Shimano hubs or any other with ball bearing and cup cone, then you must get Campy cone wrenches: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_I4Snyzw2IMM/TQzmirh_XRI/FqY/rzL26lZRXsc/s1600/campagnolo.jpg Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/iljI64gvigMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Recommendations for summer-weight wool?
Hello all, I am looking to make the switch to wool. Looking for light-weight, traditional shorts and jerseys. Would prefer the shorts to have thin/ light padding. Have to be available is smallish sizes. Thanks for the help. Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Riv-ish Schwinn touring/cross bike and other bike touring parts
I am selling my Schwinn Crosspoint, built up with many new and a few used parts that I purchased from Rivendell: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/2512380272.html I am also selling a few other things: two Panaracer Col de la Vie 650 x 38B tires. barely used, $40/pair Phil Wood 68 x 113 bottom bracket. never used, $100 VO Campagne Handlebar bag, barely used, $90 http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/bags-panniers-and-baskets/vo-campagne-handlebar-bag.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Riv-ish Schwinn touring/cross bike and other bike touring parts
I am selling my Schwinn Crosspoint, built up with many new and a few used parts that I purchased from Rivendell: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/2512380272.html I am also selling a few other things: two Panaracer Col de la Vie 650 x 38B tires. barely used, $40/pair Phil Wood 68 x 113 English threaded bottom bracket, retaining rings BB tool. never used, $150 VO Campagne Handlebar bag, barely used, $90 http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/bags-panniers-and-baskets/vo-campagne-handlebar-bag.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Recommendations for summer-weight wool?
I love my ibex stuff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7FLERssLMdcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Bombadil on the Trail
Dodged a few thunderstorms yesterday and took the Bombadil to the Red Cedar Trail in East-central Wisconsin. Plenty of dappled shade made the heat bearable. Nice trail, and very little activity. Bombadil is working perfectly, although I'm in still making minor adjustments. Not too worried about fenders for now. The trail was wet in spots, but no mud to speak of. Marty *http://tinyurl.com/3bw7waq* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hKUzQokaQ3QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Marty's Bombadil
Took the Bombadil to Wisconsin over the weekend, and dodged the thunderstorms long enough for a ride along the Red Cedar Trail. The trail follows the Red Cedar river. The bike is flawless. *http://tinyurl.com/3bw7waq* * * Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4JxTazBsuqAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] OT Kinda: Bikes for kids pledge drive
Hi Everyone, I have been partnering up with a few people to figure out a way to get 100 bikes and helmets for the Christmas at the Club event that is held every December at the Santa Ana Boys and Girls Club. Over the past few years, the number of bikes that have been given away each year has dropped dramatically and we are trying to make sure that we can get at least 100 kids on bikes this year. If you would like to donate to this cause, please use this link to find and print out the pledge card: http://tinyurl.com/3kos6qe Also, please pass this along to others. This is a great cause and getting kids on bikes is near and dear to all our hearts! Thanks, Joe Joe Bartoe Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc. email: j...@synapticcycles.com website: www.synapticcycles.com Twitter: @synapticcycles phone: 949-374-6079 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Bicycle Quarterly Back Issues
I have the following issues: Vol 3, Num 4 Vol 5, Num 2 and 4 Vol 6, Num 2 and 3 Summer and Autumn 2008 BQ offers back issues for $30 for 4. I will do all of these together for $45 shipped in the US. OR I will trade for Rivendell Readers. Anything issue 30 or older. (I also need issue 37) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/d_dfNDgwQ3UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Headset Issue
So, dealt with three shops this a.m. Called the shop where I took the bike the first time and they didn't have the tools for sale but offered to order them. Called a second shop and they said they had the tools but when I got there they didn't have them and when I complained the manager said he meant he had tools for shop use. He offered to tear apart the headset if I left the bike for a week and refused to consider that maybe the race just needed to be loosened a scosche. No thanks. I let my kid climb on their water-bottle cage display before I left to express my irritation. Third shop is in a more exclusive neighborhood and emphasizes high-end brands for the well-heeled who want to look well-heeled, but they are also the Waterford/Gunnar dealer so I had high hopes. An awkward teenager paced around the shop for thirty minutes looking for something to sell me before the manager came in, grabbed a wrench, and adjusted it nicely in about 30 seconds. Still, no wrenches to sell me but I bought a couple of tubes in appreciation. We'll see how this goes. I rode it around the block this afternoon and declared the steering at least subjectively better. Hopefully the adjustment will stick and I'll get many more miles of satisfying use from this headset. I'm ordering the spanners. Aside from what seems to be a satisfactory repair, the best part about parading my leather-saddled, be-fendered, big-tired, taped-and- shellacked handlebars, racks everywhere, Sam into bike shops is watching the jaws hit floor. Its like driving an expedition-ready Range Rover into a Kia dealership. Matt: The graphics on the headset are mostly rubbed out but my original purchase invoice says its a Tange. Seems like a lot of work to address what seems like a design flaw. Wouldn't you just want to replace it? D.G. On Jul 25, 12:12 pm, Phil Bickford phi...@sonic.net wrote: Hi Daren - Getting the tools for the job sounds like a step in the right direction. I'd write off that first shop. The second shop, however should have done the test ride themselves before they allowed you to take it home. Doing an adjustment like this yourself is a good start in self reliance. Get a book or read up on the web, or better yet have a real mechanic show you how. Phil B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Bicycle Quarterly Back Issues
Gone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/gPK6eWCOo7kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: $99 Shipped: Brooks Team Pro (Swift) Black/Copper/Chrome
SOLD. Thanks. On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Curtis Schmitt curtisrschm...@gmail.com wrote: Will ship out tomorrow via FedEx - $99 via PayPal Good Condition Brooks Team Pro in Black Leather w/ Hammered Copper Rivets and Chrome Rails •Thickest leather of any Brooks model •Hand-pounded rivets and chamfered sides •Weight 550 g •Width 155 mm •Length 280 mm Very nicely broken-in. $120 shipped FedEx Ground to CONUS Will send photos if necessary. -- Curtis R Schmitt 646.481.2625 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Hunqapillar or Hillborne
Being the shallow I'll take the pretty one bike buyer that I am, I was leaning towards getting a Hunqapillar because I love the grey/kidney-bean scheme, then Grant had the *audacity* to introduce a gorgeous new green on the Sam. Now I'm relegated to deciding based on that pesky function criteria. Whatever. So..I'm 5'-7, 170 lbs., 79PBH, probably on a 48cm with either model. Short-to-medium around-town hops, lightly loaded saddlebag, gentle fireroad potential. What say yous alls? Joe Bernard Fairfield, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zPNi4BxtgdEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar or Hillborne
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Being the shallow I'll take the pretty one bike buyer that I am, I was leaning towards getting a Hunqapillar because I love the grey/kidney-bean scheme, then Grant had the audacity to introduce a gorgeous new green on the Sam. Now I'm relegated to deciding based on that pesky function criteria. Whatever. So..I'm 5'-7, 170 lbs., 79PBH, probably on a 48cm with either model. Short-to-medium around-town hops, lightly loaded saddlebag, gentle fireroad potential. What say yous alls? It's a good problem to have is what I say. :) I believe someone one referred to this as a high class dilemma. I like the paint job on the hunqapillar better, personally. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar or Hillborne
Have you ridden both? If not, get thee to RBW and try them. I have ridden both, and I'd get a Hunq. jim m wc ca On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Being the shallow I'll take the pretty one bike buyer that I am, I was leaning towards getting a Hunqapillar because I love the grey/kidney-bean scheme, then Grant had the audacity to introduce a gorgeous new green on the Sam. Now I'm relegated to deciding based on that pesky function criteria. Whatever. So..I'm 5'-7, 170 lbs., 79PBH, probably on a 48cm with either model. Short-to-medium around-town hops, lightly loaded saddlebag, gentle fireroad potential. What say yous alls? Joe Bernard Fairfield, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zPNi4BxtgdEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar or Hillborne
On Mon, 2011-07-25 at 14:23 -0700, Jim Mather wrote: Have you ridden both? If not, get thee to RBW and try them. I have ridden both, and I'd get a Hunq. What would be the deciding factor leaning you towards it rather than the Sam? The fireroad capability? jim m wc ca On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Being the shallow I'll take the pretty one bike buyer that I am, I was leaning towards getting a Hunqapillar because I love the grey/kidney-bean scheme, then Grant had the audacity to introduce a gorgeous new green on the Sam. Now I'm relegated to deciding based on that pesky function criteria. Whatever. So..I'm 5'-7, 170 lbs., 79PBH, probably on a 48cm with either model. Short-to-medium around-town hops, lightly loaded saddlebag, gentle fireroad potential. What say yous alls? Joe Bernard Fairfield, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zPNi4BxtgdEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Headset Issue
Darin, glad to hear you got it sorted out... I lol'd at the part where you left the shop in disgust, but not before letting your child climb on their water bottle display :D Anyway sounds like you found a pretty good shop in the process. As far as the ball-bearing cages, my understanding is that they are an artifact of an earlier age of fine japanese bicycles, when the goal was to make assembly lighting quick.The cage simply keeps the bearings together so front-ends can be assembled without looking. By removing it, you can fit more bearings between the races, further distributing the load on the bearings.This is the way pedal bearings are arranged on most loose ball models- like MKS. Also, the bearings will have more room to 'float' which minimizes the likelihood that brinelling could happen. This is when the bearings wear little divets in the races where they make contact, especially on the lower races, a phenomenon which manifests itself in the form of indexed or notchy steering. I've had this happen twice, and have been doing it on my bikes ever since, though only for the lower headset bearings. It is not that much trouble if you just use a lot of grease to keep the bearings in place while you carefully slide the fork into place. Once you do it you won't have to do it again. -Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tjDZs6rB1SgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar or Hillborne
I really enjoy the Hunq's ride and that it fits much wider tires than the Sam. The Hunq is my idea of a bike for the Continental Divide Trail. Also, the Sam overlaps too much with bikes I already have. jim m wc ca On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: What would be the deciding factor leaning you towards it rather than the Sam? The fireroad capability? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne
Both are made for everything up to and including fully-loaded touring, so you could go either way.Definitely do a test ride if you can though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uT1yt8oG6_UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne
The Hunqapillar !Have you ridden wider tires? Once I got a Bombadil . my desire to ride even 35mm tires on my road bike has gone by the wayside... and don't even ride it these days. Now I want another Riv Hunqapillar or Sam I thought for about a day! Hunqapillar was an easy decision... as 38mm tires would be the narrowist tire I'd likely ride anyways but I'll use 2 Duremes on it. BTW ... for other buyers of the H I contacted Keven about changing the color to just a single color (no pinstripes)... a repaint on a new frame is $100. I'm in. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/bg5xwc4VMywJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar or Hillborne
Surely either bike has *plenty* of ability to spare for the tasks you describe. That is, I commute daily on a Hillborne, primarily on trail, 10 miles each way. with a 260lb minimum payload (rider+cargo), for over 4,000 miles so far. The Hillborne feels sturdy and stable in this role. I've had 300+ lbs (rider+cargo) on it and ridden improved trails for scores of miles. The cargo felt a little shaky, but the bike was not. The Hunqapillar surely would be even more sturdy. There are a number of differences that may matter to a given person, but aren't really deciding factors based on your purpose for the bike. 26 (Hunq) vs 650B (Hill) standover is slightly higher (bottom bracket slightly higher) on Hunqapillar longer chainstays (Hunqapillar) soft tires (Hill) vs. super-soft tires (Hunq) wide tires (Hill) vs. super-wide tires (Hunq) You *might* consider the 52cm Hillborne, depending on how you like your sizing. As for looks... I feel opposite the way you do. I don't really care for lug lining or the grey/kidney scheme. I don't *love love love* the Hillborne green, but I do prefer it. In fact, I'm probably going to get a second Hillborne (instead of a Hunqapillar) myself. That reflects the facts that I have several interchangeable cockpits which already fit the Hillborne, that I think the Hillborne is plenty of bike for my uses, and that I know the Hillborne fits me well. (In my 60cm size, the Hillborne is roughly between the Hunqa's 58cm and 62cm sizes... the 58cm is close but I'd rather go bigger if I change at all... so it's a tough call.) It does not indicate that the Hillborne is a better bike than the Hunqapillar. Obviously, if you have a chance to ride one of each, do so. That should probably be the deciding event. Either choice is good on the face of it. Also obviously, I'm of no help at all. Sorry. Good luck! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Nft85E7rBxgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar or Hillborne
It was *quite* helpful, actually. I hadn't considered the BB height/chainstay differences. I prefer the more roadish Hillborne spec. Hmm.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/IO0VB26tofoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Favorite Tools
My favorite tool is my old Campagnolo T wrench (6 mm Allen with 8 mm socket). With that and a 5 mm Allen wrench you could do everything to a Nuovo Record group except overhaul the hubs, headset and BB. On Jul 25, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Marty wrote: Darrin's headset post got me thinking about the tools I've collected over the years, and the ones I could not do without. Here are my don't scrimp on these favorites by far: Campagnolo big three wrench set - Headest/Bottom Bracket/Pedal (30+ years old and and have done hundreds of overhauls) Of course, we're talking square-drive BBs and 32mm locknuts here. Park pro workstand. Another 30+ year old workhorse that can't be beat. Park cable cutters Park chain tool Park wheel truing stand/spoke wrenches. (getting very little use now that Rich is building my wheels) It's not that I'm a Park/Campy fanatic, (well, maybe a little) it's just that I bought most of this stuff years ago and it never wears out! This could be the start of the RBW Owners Toolbox. We need a in the shop list, and an on the road list. The above are obviously the former, and represent my top 5. What are yours? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Recommendations for summer-weight wool?
Woolistic lightweight ss jersey works well. Smartwool and Icebreaker t-shirts are tough to beat in the heat... but they're just t-shirts in the best sense. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Jul 25, 11:25 am, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: I love my ibex stuff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Favorite Tools
I have pretty much all of the Campagnolo Record era type tools that would be useful for a home mechanic with a Campy Nuovo Record equipped bike (not including the tools to tap a bottom bracket, etc.). My favorite Campy tool is, like you, the Campy T tool. Unfortunately, my Campy saddle spanner (useful for adjusting a Campy Record seatpost) was lifted from my seat bag by a sticky finger employee at an LBS. Lesson learned, don't leave a seatbag on a bike when the bike is left overnight for repairs and you're not present!. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jul 25, 4:15 pm, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: My favorite tool is my old Campagnolo T wrench (6 mm Allen with 8 mm socket). With that and a 5 mm Allen wrench you could do everything to a Nuovo Record group except overhaul the hubs, headset and BB. On Jul 25, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Marty wrote: Darrin's headset post got me thinking about the tools I've collected over the years, and the ones I could not do without. Here are my don't scrimp on these favorites by far: Campagnolo big three wrench set - Headest/Bottom Bracket/Pedal (30+ years old and and have done hundreds of overhauls) Of course, we're talking square-drive BBs and 32mm locknuts here. Park pro workstand. Another 30+ year old workhorse that can't be beat. Park cable cutters Park chain tool Park wheel truing stand/spoke wrenches. (getting very little use now that Rich is building my wheels) It's not that I'm a Park/Campy fanatic, (well, maybe a little) it's just that I bought most of this stuff years ago and it never wears out! This could be the start of the RBW Owners Toolbox. We need a in the shop list, and an on the road list. The above are obviously the former, and represent my top 5. What are yours? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 650b Rim Woes
I have had bad luck with two sets 650b rims, CR18's and ZAC-19's. Both are oversized and unusable. The CR18's are my go to rims for commuting and touring since they are a sturdy, functional rim and a reasonable price. I need to find a set of rims for my wife's Bleriot and I have been unable to find a rim at the price point and quality of the CR18's. My only current options appear to be the Velocity, VO and Grand Bois. The VO rims seem to be the closest to what I am looking for. Have I missed any rims? Thanks. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne
Small Hunqa's run 26 wheels, while small Sam's run 650B. I'd think that would drive many folks' decision one way or the other. I'm a fan of 650B, but it will be easier to get 4 or 5 really cool different sets of tires to run on your Hunqa to give it a wide range of personalities. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HO7P1yaYbQEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 650b Rim Woes
Velocity Dyads. Love 'em! On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Larry Powers lapower...@hotmail.comwrote: I have had bad luck with two sets 650b rims, CR18's and ZAC-19's. Both are oversized and unusable. The CR18's are my go to rims for commuting and touring since they are a sturdy, functional rim and a reasonable price. I need to find a set of rims for my wife's Bleriot and I have been unable to find a rim at the price point and quality of the CR18's. My only current options appear to be the Velocity, VO and Grand Bois. The VO rims seem to be the closest to what I am looking for. Have I missed any rims? Thanks. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne
Yep, that's a tough one for me. I prefer 26-inch wheels, and have a nice set ready to transfer from my CB-Zip to the Hunqapillar (sorry, I can't bring myself to say Hunqa. Reminds me of an Elvis song). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/b7cth2ysZ_kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue
It is really hard to find a competent LBS... :-( On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: So, dealt with three shops this a.m. Called the shop where I took the bike the first time and they didn't have the tools for sale but offered to order them. Called a second shop and they said they had the tools but when I got there they didn't have them and when I complained the manager said he meant he had tools for shop use. He offered to tear apart the headset if I left the bike for a week and refused to consider that maybe the race just needed to be loosened a scosche. No thanks. I let my kid climb on their water-bottle cage display before I left to express my irritation. Third shop is in a more exclusive neighborhood and emphasizes high-end brands for the well-heeled who want to look well-heeled, but they are also the Waterford/Gunnar dealer so I had high hopes. An awkward teenager paced around the shop for thirty minutes looking for something to sell me before the manager came in, grabbed a wrench, and adjusted it nicely in about 30 seconds. Still, no wrenches to sell me but I bought a couple of tubes in appreciation. We'll see how this goes. I rode it around the block this afternoon and declared the steering at least subjectively better. Hopefully the adjustment will stick and I'll get many more miles of satisfying use from this headset. I'm ordering the spanners. Aside from what seems to be a satisfactory repair, the best part about parading my leather-saddled, be-fendered, big-tired, taped-and- shellacked handlebars, racks everywhere, Sam into bike shops is watching the jaws hit floor. Its like driving an expedition-ready Range Rover into a Kia dealership. Matt: The graphics on the headset are mostly rubbed out but my original purchase invoice says its a Tange. Seems like a lot of work to address what seems like a design flaw. Wouldn't you just want to replace it? D.G. On Jul 25, 12:12 pm, Phil Bickford phi...@sonic.net wrote: Hi Daren - Getting the tools for the job sounds like a step in the right direction. I'd write off that first shop. The second shop, however should have done the test ride themselves before they allowed you to take it home. Doing an adjustment like this yourself is a good start in self reliance. Get a book or read up on the web, or better yet have a real mechanic show you how. Phil B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne
Personally, I think the Hunqapillar may just be the prettiest thing on 2 wheels. I just love the looks of that bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5V9VyxeMX0AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Tools
I have the Campy 5mm wrench which was possibly my first purchase from Rivendell 18 years ago. Have been using it near weekly and works perfectly. Hard to beat! On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: I have pretty much all of the Campagnolo Record era type tools that would be useful for a home mechanic with a Campy Nuovo Record equipped bike (not including the tools to tap a bottom bracket, etc.). My favorite Campy tool is, like you, the Campy T tool. Unfortunately, my Campy saddle spanner (useful for adjusting a Campy Record seatpost) was lifted from my seat bag by a sticky finger employee at an LBS. Lesson learned, don't leave a seatbag on a bike when the bike is left overnight for repairs and you're not present!. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jul 25, 4:15 pm, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: My favorite tool is my old Campagnolo T wrench (6 mm Allen with 8 mm socket). With that and a 5 mm Allen wrench you could do everything to a Nuovo Record group except overhaul the hubs, headset and BB. On Jul 25, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Marty wrote: Darrin's headset post got me thinking about the tools I've collected over the years, and the ones I could not do without. Here are my don't scrimp on these favorites by far: Campagnolo big three wrench set - Headest/Bottom Bracket/Pedal (30+ years old and and have done hundreds of overhauls) Of course, we're talking square-drive BBs and 32mm locknuts here. Park pro workstand. Another 30+ year old workhorse that can't be beat. Park cable cutters Park chain tool Park wheel truing stand/spoke wrenches. (getting very little use now that Rich is building my wheels) It's not that I'm a Park/Campy fanatic, (well, maybe a little) it's just that I bought most of this stuff years ago and it never wears out! This could be the start of the RBW Owners Toolbox. We need a in the shop list, and an on the road list. The above are obviously the former, and represent my top 5. What are yours? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne
Double check to make sure your CB-Zip rear wheel is 135mm or plan on spacing it out. You don't want to be forcing a 130mm rear wheel into a nice new Rivendell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AdlL61il4_EJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Have you seen the Grand Bois stem/decaleur
Really tempting eye candy. Made by Nitto just for Grand Bois. That would look great on a nice clean randoneuse. http://www.compasscycle.com/Stems.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CS5Ni4A7iMMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Recommendations for summer-weight wool?
The wool shirts on Rivendell's website under specials are good. Been wearing mine in temps to the mid-80's. Otherwise, the Smartwool and Icebreaker stuff is pretty lightweight. The larger sizes fit me well. No idea on shorts, though. I end up with MUSA shorts with REI pads underneath. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jul 25, 6:17 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Woolistic lightweight ss jersey works well. Smartwool and Icebreaker t-shirts are tough to beat in the heat... but they're just t-shirts in the best sense. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Jul 25, 11:25 am, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: I love my ibex stuff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne
It's a 135 8-speed, not the original CB-Zip wheel. I believe the Sam and Hunqapillar are both 135, but I'll double check. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-5ZQpFZ6YTUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue
Most shop kids have never seen a threaded headset. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HMIrBMqQXBUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne
Yes, they both are 135mm. You are good to go! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7iScHF8eWoYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Have you seen the Grand Bois stem/decaleur
.. these items are certainly beautiful. I'm not sure I want to pay $365 for the set. Are there any other decaleurs out there besides VO or Berthoud? I just got a nice bag from Loyal Designs and I am leaning toward the Berthoud at the moment. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CJrhN28k-zcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Favorite Tools
Only Campy item at my place is a 15mm, aka peanut butter wrench. It's nice, but unless (until?) I buy a SimpleOne and the budge wheels, probably won't have much use for it. Probably my favorite tools are a set of Bondhus allen wrenches. They sit out on my bench get used weekly, or more if tinkering. Do have a basic set of Park Tools and they were used to build my Hillborne, as well as some of my other bike builds and later conversions. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jul 25, 7:25 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I have the Campy 5mm wrench which was possibly my first purchase from Rivendell 18 years ago. Have been using it near weekly and works perfectly. Hard to beat! On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: I have pretty much all of the Campagnolo Record era type tools that would be useful for a home mechanic with a Campy Nuovo Record equipped bike (not including the tools to tap a bottom bracket, etc.). My favorite Campy tool is, like you, the Campy T tool. Unfortunately, my Campy saddle spanner (useful for adjusting a Campy Record seatpost) was lifted from my seat bag by a sticky finger employee at an LBS. Lesson learned, don't leave a seatbag on a bike when the bike is left overnight for repairs and you're not present!. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jul 25, 4:15 pm, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: My favorite tool is my old Campagnolo T wrench (6 mm Allen with 8 mm socket). With that and a 5 mm Allen wrench you could do everything to a Nuovo Record group except overhaul the hubs, headset and BB. On Jul 25, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Marty wrote: Darrin's headset post got me thinking about the tools I've collected over the years, and the ones I could not do without. Here are my don't scrimp on these favorites by far: Campagnolo big three wrench set - Headest/Bottom Bracket/Pedal (30+ years old and and have done hundreds of overhauls) Of course, we're talking square-drive BBs and 32mm locknuts here. Park pro workstand. Another 30+ year old workhorse that can't be beat. Park cable cutters Park chain tool Park wheel truing stand/spoke wrenches. (getting very little use now that Rich is building my wheels) It's not that I'm a Park/Campy fanatic, (well, maybe a little) it's just that I bought most of this stuff years ago and it never wears out! This could be the start of the RBW Owners Toolbox. We need a in the shop list, and an on the road list. The above are obviously the former, and represent my top 5. What are yours? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Recommendations for summer-weight wool?
I 2nd the Ibex input, especially the Indie model. I find them lighter weight and cooler in warm weather than the Woolistic models myself. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6BX72cUFYUQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saddle Sack Medium w/ Nitto Big Back Rack
Hey Darin, I was gone for a few days. The bag is a medium. It does work fine without a support. If you stand up to pedal it sways back and forth a bit. It might be worth getting the large if you're gonna use it with a rack. --mike On Jul 23, 9:47 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Mike, helpful photo. Is that a medium or a large saddle sack? After looking at my setup again its clear Big Rack does ride quite a way to the rear to keep the panniers out of the way. Don't see how the bag will fit on there without flopping over the loop at the front. So, I'll probably get the bag and see how it works and then get a Top Rack if I can't live with the asymmetry of the bag flopped over the front of the rack a la Pondero's setup. The bag is simply too cool not to have and the bike will see far more use with the saddle bag than panniers. On Jul 23, 4:50 am, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: Rene, my 650b AHH is a 56, significantly smaller than your Atlantis. The bag does rest on the front loop of the rack, but sort of molds around it. I guess with my smaller frame it doesn't really look too bad. It is attached at the saddle, and with small bungie cords at the back and rides reasonably stable. It's not ideal, but don't perceive any lost functionality. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 3 days in and around the Mt Hood NF
Got in a few hours ago from 3 days of solo bike camping. Sat and Sun were gorgeous days that included many miles on beautiful and perfect Forest Service Roads. Sun was exceptionally hot and I felt at one point I was on the verge of heat exhaustion. Fortunately as shady and beautiful spot on the side of the road presented itself to me and I was able to rest a bit and continue on without any problems. As I went to sleep that night the stars were out and brilliant with no clouds in the sky. Around 1am I woke to lightening and thunder but no rain. I got up around 6am, packed up camp and it started raining. The temperature had also dropped and it was very cloudy and misty in spots. On the descent down Hwy 26 from Government Camp I was pretty cold and it stayed cold until I got to Sandy then it started to warm up. It was just a really good time. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/collections/72157627157230467/ A week from tomorrow I head out for 8 or 9 days with a friend. Our tentative plan, depending on the weather is to head up towards Mt Rainer and beyond via Gifford Pinchot NF. If the weather is lousy we'll probably head over to eastern OR and maybe down towards Crater Lake. I'm cross posting this to the Surly LHT group. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b Rim Woes
I just got a whilst built on the VOs. Look great and Hetres mounted perfectly. I'd go for it. On Jul 25, 7:58 pm, Larry Powers lapower...@hotmail.com wrote: I have had bad luck with two sets 650b rims, CR18's and ZAC-19's. Both are oversized and unusable. The CR18's are my go to rims for commuting and touring since they are a sturdy, functional rim and a reasonable price. I need to find a set of rims for my wife's Bleriot and I have been unable to find a rim at the price point and quality of the CR18's. My only current options appear to be the Velocity, VO and Grand Bois. The VO rims seem to be the closest to what I am looking for. Have I missed any rims? Thanks. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne
Making a 130 fit into 135 is no biggie..aside from that at 170 pounds I think a Hillborne would be fine if you are primarily a road rider.if a dirt dabbler the Hunqua would be my choice as a better all rounder but then I am finally now at a mere 258 and dropping. Any of the Rive bikes can be ridden on trails by a lighter skilled rider but us big people need more bike under us IHMO. I once had a early model Specialized (lugged) Stumpjumper and wish I had kept it. The Hunq seems like a good re-creation of that butpersonally I love the twin top tube look of the Sam and may consider replacing my Long Haul Trucker frame with one or an Atlantis. So many choices! On Jul 25, 5:38 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, they both are 135mm. You are good to go! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Favorite Tools
You'd want a stubby 15mm box end ratchet/ open end combo wrench then for your SO I purchased one and its really handy for changing gears without rounding the axle nuts. Its about 5 inches long and perfect for the purpose. This is my favorite tool for now but I admit to liking my Y shaped 8,9,10 socket wrench and my screwdriver handle bondus wrench for water bottle/fender bolts etc. Can't forget to mention my Park chain tool and crank puller. The nicest tool I have is a bicycle specific cable cutter/ end crimper that my friend gave me. I always buy my own tools and have nearly everything I need short of a truing stand or frame reamers and taps which I plan to aquire eventually. A Phil Wood spoke threading machine would be nice too as would frame building jigs and a nice mill and lathe. On Jul 25, 5:47 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Only Campy item at my place is a 15mm, aka peanut butter wrench. It's nice, but unless (until?) I buy a SimpleOne and the budge wheels, probably won't have much use for it. Probably my favorite tools are a set of Bondhus allen wrenches. They sit out on my bench get used weekly, or more if tinkering. Do have a basic set of Park Tools and they were used to build my Hillborne, as well as some of my other bike builds and later conversions. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jul 25, 7:25 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I have the Campy 5mm wrench which was possibly my first purchase from Rivendell 18 years ago. Have been using it near weekly and works perfectly. Hard to beat! On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: I have pretty much all of the Campagnolo Record era type tools that would be useful for a home mechanic with a Campy Nuovo Record equipped bike (not including the tools to tap a bottom bracket, etc.). My favorite Campy tool is, like you, the Campy T tool. Unfortunately, my Campy saddle spanner (useful for adjusting a Campy Record seatpost) was lifted from my seat bag by a sticky finger employee at an LBS. Lesson learned, don't leave a seatbag on a bike when the bike is left overnight for repairs and you're not present!. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jul 25, 4:15 pm, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: My favorite tool is my old Campagnolo T wrench (6 mm Allen with 8 mm socket). With that and a 5 mm Allen wrench you could do everything to a Nuovo Record group except overhaul the hubs, headset and BB. On Jul 25, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Marty wrote: Darrin's headset post got me thinking about the tools I've collected over the years, and the ones I could not do without. Here are my don't scrimp on these favorites by far: Campagnolo big three wrench set - Headest/Bottom Bracket/Pedal (30+ years old and and have done hundreds of overhauls) Of course, we're talking square-drive BBs and 32mm locknuts here. Park pro workstand. Another 30+ year old workhorse that can't be beat. Park cable cutters Park chain tool Park wheel truing stand/spoke wrenches. (getting very little use now that Rich is building my wheels) It's not that I'm a Park/Campy fanatic, (well, maybe a little) it's just that I bought most of this stuff years ago and it never wears out! This could be the start of the RBW Owners Toolbox. We need a in the shop list, and an on the road list. The above are obviously the former, and represent my top 5. What are yours? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 650b Rim Woes
I will second that the VO Diagonale 650b rims look good and are nicely priced at $50 each. I just built a pair of wheels with these rims today and they went together very nicely. And they are shiny. On Jul 25, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Larry Powers wrote: I have had bad luck with two sets 650b rims, CR18's and ZAC-19's. Both are oversized and unusable. The CR18's are my go to rims for commuting and touring since they are a sturdy, functional rim and a reasonable price. I need to find a set of rims for my wife's Bleriot and I have been unable to find a rim at the price point and quality of the CR18's. My only current options appear to be the Velocity, VO and Grand Bois. The VO rims seem to be the closest to what I am looking for. Have I missed any rims? Thanks. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne
Joe, I have a 60cm Hillborne and really like its versatility. Depending on mood and setting, I can any tire from a 50mm Supremes to a 28mm Rolly- polly (no fenders in LA). The geometry is great on hills, trails as well as the road. I usually ride with a Berthoud Tall handlebar bag which works without complaint. Cheers, Seth Ely Joe Bernard wrote: Being the shallow I'll take the pretty one bike buyer that I am, I was leaning towards getting a Hunqapillar because I love the grey/kidney-bean scheme, then Grant had the *audacity* to introduce a gorgeous new green on the Sam. Now I'm relegated to deciding based on that pesky function criteria. Whatever. So..I'm 5'-7, 170 lbs., 79PBH, probably on a 48cm with either model. Short-to-medium around-town hops, lightly loaded saddlebag, gentle fireroad potential. What say yous alls? Joe Bernard Fairfield, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar or Hillborne
Hey Ya Joe, That green SH sure looks good to me. I am contemplating that one myself to add to the Rodeo and SimpleOne. Have Fun! Dave Nawrocki Fort Collins, CO Fort Collins, CO - Original Message - From: Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 3:08:08 PM Subject: [RBW] Hunqapillar or Hillborne Being the shallow I'll take the pretty one bike buyer that I am, I was leaning towards getting a Hunqapillar because I love the grey/kidney-bean scheme, then Grant had the audacity to introduce a gorgeous new green on the Sam. Now I'm relegated to deciding based on that pesky function criteria. Whatever. So..I'm 5'-7, 170 lbs., 79PBH, probably on a 48cm with either model. Short-to-medium around-town hops, lightly loaded saddlebag, gentle fireroad potential. What say yous alls? Joe Bernard Fairfield, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zPNi4BxtgdEJ . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne
That green SH sure looks good to me. I am contemplating that one myself to add to the Rodeo and SimpleOne. Dave Nawrocki That would be a pretty complete Riv quiver. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 3 days in and around the Mt Hood NF
Awesome as usual, Mike - I'm envious - I need to get out on the bike in the mountains one of these days. What was the difference in taking the LHT vs the AHH this year? I'm currently trying to work out a mt touring backroad bike. I don't much like the feel of rear loading bikes, so I'm leaning towards a front loader rando style bike, but the Hunqa is really calling my name. I took a test ride on a couple this year and had one of those religious experiences with the 54cm and Mustache bars. Brian Seattle On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Got in a few hours ago from 3 days of solo bike camping. Sat and Sun were gorgeous days that included many miles on beautiful and perfect Forest Service Roads. Sun was exceptionally hot and I felt at one point I was on the verge of heat exhaustion. Fortunately as shady and beautiful spot on the side of the road presented itself to me and I was able to rest a bit and continue on without any problems. As I went to sleep that night the stars were out and brilliant with no clouds in the sky. Around 1am I woke to lightening and thunder but no rain. I got up around 6am, packed up camp and it started raining. The temperature had also dropped and it was very cloudy and misty in spots. On the descent down Hwy 26 from Government Camp I was pretty cold and it stayed cold until I got to Sandy then it started to warm up. It was just a really good time. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/collections/72157627157230467/ A week from tomorrow I head out for 8 or 9 days with a friend. Our tentative plan, depending on the weather is to head up towards Mt Rainer and beyond via Gifford Pinchot NF. If the weather is lousy we'll probably head over to eastern OR and maybe down towards Crater Lake. I'm cross posting this to the Surly LHT group. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle Sack Medium w/ Nitto Big Back Rack
Yes, I think you can wing it on smaller frames like you have. I rode with the Sackville panniers today for the first time since I got them. The laptop fits but leaves a largish opening on the top flap. I have it covered with a neoprene sleeve and it didn't appear to get dusty from the ride on the gravel trail. Everything else is covered with a thin layer of dust during the summer months, although I have to say that the fenders help a lot with the dust as well. Sent from my iPad On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:50 AM, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: Rene, my 650b AHH is a 56, significantly smaller than your Atlantis. The bag does rest on the front loop of the rack, but sort of molds around it. I guess with my smaller frame it doesn't really look too bad. It is attached at the saddle, and with small bungie cords at the back and rides reasonably stable. It's not ideal, but don't perceive any lost functionality. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Favorite Tools
My Park Tools master link plier. And the Park Tools cable and housing cutter. And the Park Tools... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EPJSPS9H3F0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 3 days in and around the Mt Hood NF
I love my Hilsen but it tended to shimmy with a rear load on long fast descents. Also, the Silver brakes have served me well but the LHT is solid on descents and the cantis seem to offer a little better stopping power. I've really been impressed with the LHT. I haven't needed to fully load it (front and rear panniers) but I've ridden it with front biased load and a rear biased load and it's been fine. I'm still not sure what I'll do for the tour in terms of baggage. I'll either go small Ortlieb panniers up front with a stuff sack on the platform of the rear rack or just use the big panniers in the rear. I like the way it feels on descents with the front panniers, it feels a bit more solid but the rear big panniers are easier to load and distribute the weight. I say go for a Hunqa. I had every intention of getting one earlier this year and I kept putting it off then some other expenses came up and I just went for the LHT which has been fine. I wouldn't mind losing one of my other bikes next year--Cross Check or Quickbeam and replacing it with a Surly Troll. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne
Hi Joe, Well, you know I went with the Hunq. I love it, and I only ride on smooth paved roads. I didn't really need the slightly stouter tubing, but it didn't matter. The Hunq rides beautifully on paved roads with the Schwalbe 700 x 50 Big Apples I have on it. It doesn't feel sluggish at all, though I wouldn't doubt that a Sam with narrower tires might feel a little zippier. Color schemes are so subjective. I happen to be one who loves the gray and kidney bean red colors of the Hunq. Of the different Riv model color schemes, I'd have to say that my hands down favorite would have to be the Bombadil foresty green and cream color scheme. Simply gorgeous. Joe, you owe it to yourself to go to Riv HQ and look at, sit on, and test ride those bikes! Try bikes with the different bars- moustache, albatross, Bullmoose...and, if you like drops, the Noodle. Trying the different models with different cockpit setups, will really help you to decide which model and setup looks and feels just right for you. As others here have said, you can't go wrong with either. Try both out, and see which one feels like home to you. Good luck! And have fun with the process! Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XdTrjUMvgbwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Was gonna buy a Riv but didnt...
Joe, it sounds like you've gone through a recumbent/upright process not unlike mine. And it looks like we've ended up in about the same place. A trike and a Riv...not a bad way to go. lol -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qmIK8oJTG1YJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b Rim Woes
The Velocity twin hollow is a great bargain. On Jul 25, 10:31 pm, Thomas Nezovich t...@cox.net wrote: I will second that the VO Diagonale 650b rims look good and are nicely priced at $50 each. I just built a pair of wheels with these rims today and they went together very nicely. And they are shiny. On Jul 25, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Larry Powers wrote: I have had bad luck with two sets 650b rims, CR18's and ZAC-19's. Both are oversized and unusable. The CR18's are my go to rims for commuting and touring since they are a sturdy, functional rim and a reasonable price. I need to find a set of rims for my wife's Bleriot and I have been unable to find a rim at the price point and quality of the CR18's. My only current options appear to be the Velocity, VO and Grand Bois. The VO rims seem to be the closest to what I am looking for. Have I missed any rims? Thanks. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] How much should a bike cost?
What is a fair price for a bike? Not how much is a person willing to pay. Not how much can a bike be sold for. How much SHOULD a bike (or different types of bikes) cost? There is a wide spectrum of what cyclists are willing to pay for their machines. IMHO most pricing debates revolve around how much money a person wants to pay for a certain cycle; often (but not always) that amount is less than the price advertised. Pretty often I hear “I would love a Brand X if only it were $29.99”. Obviously I am exaggerating, but maybe that spending based thinking is going about it from the wrong angle. Bicycle pricing, like many economic sets, is created with the conflation of marketing, consumer demand, and cost. I think there is a way to dilettante a fair price that is neither inflated nor understated. So I ask again – assuming a retail setting for a non-custom frame and fork – how much should a bike cost? Just a frame and fork keeps it simpler with the entire plethora of factors already present. Perhaps shifting the focus from an individual’s point of view would yield interesting information. can opener in hand JL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] How much should a bike cost?
In my mind $600-$700 for a lugged Taiwanese bike is the price to beat. A Bleriot or Rawland type frame. That may be unrealistic any more, but it's what I want to pay for a frame. The Soma bike is pretty close @ $900. On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:35 PM, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: What is a fair price for a bike? Not how much is a person willing to pay. Not how much can a bike be sold for. How much SHOULD a bike (or different types of bikes) cost? There is a wide spectrum of what cyclists are willing to pay for their machines. IMHO most pricing debates revolve around how much money a person wants to pay for a certain cycle; often (but not always) that amount is less than the price advertised. Pretty often I hear “I would love a Brand X if only it were $29.99”. Obviously I am exaggerating, but maybe that spending based thinking is going about it from the wrong angle. Bicycle pricing, like many economic sets, is created with the conflation of marketing, consumer demand, and cost. I think there is a way to dilettante a fair price that is neither inflated nor understated. So I ask again – assuming a retail setting for a non-custom frame and fork – how much should a bike cost? Just a frame and fork keeps it simpler with the entire plethora of factors already present. Perhaps shifting the focus from an individual’s point of view would yield interesting information. can opener in hand JL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
