Re: [RBW] Fender Frustration
Chris and Brian, Your feedback makes a lot of sense. I think Grant said it well when he spoke of tire width greed. Something else to play with... René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Attaching a basket to the front rack idea
Doesn't it rattle quite a bit? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CvwfMK7QT2QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Big Sale shipping backlog
Thank you, Andrew (and everyone) for your patience. The response to the sale was great and gratifying, but created a queue like we've not seen before. We're almost caught up. Thanks, again! John On Jan 19, 4:38 pm, Andrew ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: I just got notice of some Big Sale items shipping, was frankly starting to worry. Kudos to the RBW crew for working through the backlog, much appreciated. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Growing my moustache (bars)
You bet. I knew it have to be *something* like that, and when I saw your pictures, it became perfectly clear the way to proceed. I was also glad to find small metric T-nuts, to match my stainless bolts. Thanks for the suggestion! - Andrew, Berkeley On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome... just curious... did my post showing my rubber plugs w/ t-nuts influence your design, or had you already encountered them? -Rex -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Attaching a basket to the front rack idea
No. B/c it's velcro there's a little elasticity, as there is with the metal basket itself. I attach the strips in such a way that there's opposing tension, iteratively tightening them- if that makes sense. Pro'ly best to start with the loop (nearest to the headtube), then each of the corners, revisiting them to further tighten them, as you get around the rack. That make sense? Akin to how you're supposed to tighten the nuts/bolts on a car wheel. Using zipties depends on the slight elasticity of the metal wires of the basket- no different here. Haven't carried a load o' groceries yet, but I think it'll be plenty tight. Tse-Sung On Jan 20, 5:09 am, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't it rattle quite a bit? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Attaching a basket to the front rack idea
Andrew, To what do you secure the constrictor knot? Appears to be a knot you'd have to apply to a post of some type. On Jan 19, 6:44 pm, Andrew ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: I use thin kernmantle line, and tie down with Constrictor knots. Works great, and still fairly easy to untie. http://www.animatedknots.com/constrictor/index.php?Categ=household - Andrew loves knots as much as he loves bikes, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Grundens rain hat
The rain has finally arrived in California and I have discovered that I am not using my grundens rain hat. $20 shipped if you'd like it. Best, Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Attaching a basket to the front rack idea
I tie around the Wald basket and the Nitto mini-rack. That is, where the wire of the basket lays along the side rail of the rack, I use a constrictor knot (several, two on each side) to bind them tight to each other. You could also use hemp twine whipping to secure a basket like that, though it would be semi-permanent. And I saw a setup at RBW that simply used bar wrap tape to hold the basket in place. - Andrew, Berkeley On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 7:47 AM, colin p. cummings colinthehip...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew, To what do you secure the constrictor knot? Appears to be a knot you'd have to apply to a post of some type. On Jan 19, 6:44 pm, Andrew ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: I use thin kernmantle line, and tie down with Constrictor knots. Works great, and still fairly easy to untie. http://www.animatedknots.com/constrictor/index.php?Categ=household - Andrew loves knots as much as he loves bikes, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Growing my moustache (bars)
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Andrew ashtab...@gmail.com wrote:
You bet. I knew it have to be *something* like that, and when I saw your
pictures, it became perfectly clear the way to proceed. I was also glad to
find small metric T-nuts, to match my stainless bolts. Thanks for the
suggestion!
That's great! That's been sitting on my website for about a decade
{notice how all of the links to the original pics are broken... :-( } and
I've never heard any feedback... glad to see that it helped somebody!
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[RBW] Re: Grundens rain hat
Size small. New Condition. On Jan 20, 8:06 am, Adam oceanm...@gmail.com wrote: The rain has finally arrived in California and I have discovered that I am not using my grundens rain hat. $20 shipped if you'd like it. Best, Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Say NO to Internet censorship
the vote is being delayed, which is fantastic. nothing wrong with the idea of preventing piracy, there just has to be a better way of doing it than through terrible legislation: http://www.pcworld.com/article/248466/internets_protest_prods_us_senate_to_delay_vote.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6GCaSIgTm4gJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Queue Backlog
seems like nothing I've posted in the last 2-3 weeks has gotten through. Maybe I'm just spam! ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/bx6bkNK9TtkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Attaching a basket to the front rack idea
Three leather toe clip straps do the job for me. Pretty easy to remove and put back on. On Jan 19, 3:43 pm, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote: All, I love the basket on the front of my AHH with drop bars. But want it easily removed and remounted which is hard with zip ties. So, in case no one's mentioned this already, I got some velcro straps, like this: http://www.staples.com/VELCRO-Brand-ONE-WRAP-Straps-Assorted-5-Pack/p... and use them on the basket, like this: http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/21102535_GvRgbk Works great- tight. Tse-Sung Berkeley CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Carradice Barley Bags
One black and one green. I've used them but very little. They look new! Still stiff. $50 each plus shipping. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: my death valley ride report (in progress)
Inspiring posts. I have family in Barstow. The wife, kids and I spend a week or so there (Barstow) every year. I've thought about bringing a bike but haven't gone to the effort to get it there. I was mostly thinking of riding around town and the desert immediately around town, but this has me thinking about s24o or perhaps the s72h mini-tour. We usually spend some time out in the desert off roading with siblings, cousins, aunts, uncles and such, but that's a different type of bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hrDSv1NCyLYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Bar Tape
I love that for relatively cheaply ($10-$35) I can change out bar tape and not only change the look of my bikes I can change the feel too. I've tried the Newbaums and Soma tapes from Riv. I've got a couple rolls of their Japanese tape sitting on my parts shelf for future use. I've also tried a rubbery type tape with Bontrager branding. I haven't disliked any of the tapes I've tried, and I've kind of enjoyed their differences. I think the next 2 on my list to pick up are Fizik Microtex and Lizardskins DSP. I would be interested to hear from anyone who's used either of these regarding if/how/why you liked them. Does anyone have a bar tape that they particularly love? In the spirit of elevating my bag-matcher status... has anyone tried to match bar tape to their green Sackville bags? I assume green cloth wrap + a few coats of amber shellac would get reasonably close. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TUsXpmn7XdoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Growing my moustache (bars)
Those bar ends are great! Cool to have the skills and tools to make such an item. I've only been riding M-bars for a few months. At first I wrapped from the brake levers out. That was the only part of the bar I used. More recently I've been playing with different hand positions... if only to stretch/ change positions briefly. I wanted to try a different color/texture tape too, so I wrapped the whole bar this time around. Will see if the center section of the bar gets used. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/nsFclU0VWCcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Sam Hillborne 56cm question
Hi all - My first time posting...I've been wanting to get a steel lugged bike for a while now to use for commuting, grocery shopping, rides with the kids...basically an all around general bike to use when I'm not riding a road bike. I've finally landed on the Sam, and have been saving to get enough $ to do a complete build. I'm about half way there, and discovered on their website that it seems the 56cm only comes with a double top tube. I emailed a few days ago to ask if this is the case, but haven't heard back. So, here's what I'm wondering - is the 56cm Sam only with a double top tube now? If so, what would you suggest as some other options? I really like the look and the idea of the Sam, but honestly don't like the look of the double top tube at all...and if I'm spending that much, I want to love not only the feel of it when I ride, but also I want to love the look of it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012
Steve: Would Jack Brown Greens (the lighter weight version) be okay on the trail, or do I (ideally, anyway) need something fatter and sturdier? Tom -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Palincsar Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 6:05 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012 On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 14:54 -0800, islaysteve wrote: Since I took the time to explore the links that Bobby provided, I've answered most of my questions: It looks like a moderate climb out of Frostburg for 10+ miles to the Eastern Continental Divide (cool), and then moderate downhill all the way. Pretty good for an out-of-shape geezer like me. The GAP looks incredible and I'd really like to ride it; if not on this trip, in the future. If I decide to join, I will be riding my Bleriot fitted with Pari-Motos. I assume that this would be sufficient? It would be perfect. The GAP is a crushed limestone surface, very well packed, no loose top layer at all, and great drainage. It rained for 2 days when I was on it, and had rained heavily for days before we got there, and we saw 1 puddle for the entire distance from McKeesport to Cumberland. I would also still be interested in any details of the ride, especially the first day. Also, I'm not sure how the second day with possible side trip to Fallingwater would work, but most likely I would sit out that side trip. Thanks for planning this Bobby. Cheers, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4wyBW-akG18J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East - Falling Water train transportation
From the Google Map (link below, click on the terrain option from the pull-down Map menu), it looks like the ride to Fallingwater from Ohiopyle is a little over 4 miles, and total climb looks like from something above 1200 feet to something above 1600 feet -- although there appear to be some ups and downs in between, they don't look extreme at all. Maybe something like a 2% grade, on average? I took a look at this because I was thinking of riding my Quickbeam on RRE 2012, but was worried about the Fallingwater climb. Not sure what conclusion I've reached about that, but it certainly looks doable on a geared bike without too much trouble. http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=engs_upl=109l3000l0l3484l9l8l0l0l0l0l250l1358l0.7.1l8l0bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osbbiw=1920bih=1017wrapid=tlif132707973078010q=ohiopyle+paum=1ie=UTF-8hq=hnear=0x8835365e0b1b853d:0x6edd6fdc5c0da519,Ohiopyle,+PAgl=usei=NqEZT8iZHPC62gXc692gCwsa=Xoi=geocode_resultct=imageresnum=2ved=0CDYQ8gEwAQ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joan Oppel Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 9:44 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East - Falling Water train transportation I rode the GAP CO a couple of years ago - Pittsburgh to DC to home, a friend and I (me: Bleriot, her: Atlantis). Lots of fun. We rode from Ohiopyle to Falling Water because I'd never seen the house. It was not a difficult climb, long not steep, and with some breaks and definitely worth it. Reservations are needed for the Falling Water tour, and there are specific times. We were there on a weekday in October and had no trouble getting a reservation the same day. But on a weekend, it might be more difficult. Just some details to keep in mind as you plan. Train: we used a shuttle service, much more economical than the train - at least for traveling between DC and Pittsburgh. The way the Amtrak schedule worked would have required a night in a hotel, so the shuttle was cheaper (though it would have been neat to take Amtrak). Here's trail status on the GAP website: http://www.atatrail.org/tmi/status.cfm That website is a wealth of information, and that's where I found a list of shuttle services. Joan On 01/13/12, Montclair BobbyBmontclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the warning, Larry... It may not be practical to do the FallingWater side trip... it is quite a house, though isn't it? BB On Jan 13, 7:13 pm, Larry Powers lapower...@hotmail.commailto:lapower...@hotmail.com wrote: Sounds like a great ride. I will warn people that the climb from Ohio Pyle park to Falling Water is about 3 miles of 300% grade. At least that is how it seemed the year we tried it on a tandem with the wrong gearing and an out of shape team. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain From: thomas.alling...@skadden.commailto:thomas.alling...@skadden.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:42:39 -0500 Subject: RE: [RBW] Riv Rally East 2012 I'm in, Bobby. And if anyone feels like flying in sans bike, I've got loaners in the 59cm to 61cm range. Pics on the Flickr group make it look like a GREAT ride. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:24 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Riv Rally East 2012 OK, it's a new year, and I'm starting to get excited about Riv Rally East 2012. Here's the quick skinny on this year's plan (so far): This year I'm planning the 2-day Rally to ride along the Great Allegheny Passage, from Frostburg, MD to Connellsville, PA. To get you psyched up, here are a few links: http://www.atatrail.org/index.cfm http://www.flickr.com/groups/great_allegheny_passage/ This beautiful stretch of the GAP trail takes you through long mountain tunnels, over high viaducts, though beautiful country along 2 scenic rivers (including through the Youghigheny River Gorge). The plan is to converge in Frostburg, MD on Friday evening, Apr 20th, and ride to Confluence, PA (47 miles of mostly smooth downhill to the North) on Saturday, where we will enjoy a nice dinner and comfy bed (although there is camping nearby for the hardcore). Sunday we will roll into Ohiopyle, PA, home of the famous Youghigheny Gorge, where we may take an an optional short excursion out of town to visit the famous Frank Lloyd Wright house, FallingWater (a trip WELL WORTH taking). We will finish day off in Connellsville, PA, where I am making arrangements to shuttle ourselves, bike and gear back to Frostburg. This will be a self-supported, credit card type of tour, which means that unless you have
Re: [RBW] Bar Tape
Long ago, when I had my dark green Bombadil, I used Newbaum's green tape (sold by Riv) and amber shellac that I prepared myself. The color was gorgeous and it would have been a great match for the green Sackville bags. You can see a close-up here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/4530205372/in/set-72157622958472288 Right now I've switched to Bullmoose bars on almost all my bikes and love the ergonomic PDW leather grips. However, for the last year+ I've been using honey Brooks leather tape and love it. Also tried the natural Berhoud tape and love how it looks. On my old pre-Riv days, the bar tape I preferred the most was the Fizik; in fact, when I got my AHH I first used Fizik tape on it. Photo here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/3978138456/in/set-72157622508702300 René On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Smitty-A-Go-Go 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: I love that for relatively cheaply ($10-$35) I can change out bar tape and not only change the look of my bikes I can change the feel too. I've tried the Newbaums and Soma tapes from Riv. I've got a couple rolls of their Japanese tape sitting on my parts shelf for future use. I've also tried a rubbery type tape with Bontrager branding. I haven't disliked any of the tapes I've tried, and I've kind of enjoyed their differences. I think the next 2 on my list to pick up are Fizik Microtex and Lizardskins DSP. I would be interested to hear from anyone who's used either of these regarding if/how/why you liked them. Does anyone have a bar tape that they particularly love? In the spirit of elevating my bag-matcher status... has anyone tried to match bar tape to their green Sackville bags? I assume green cloth wrap + a few coats of amber shellac would get reasonably close. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TUsXpmn7XdoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne 56cm question
I believe you can order the Waterford version without the second top tube, but the price goes up. I have one of the first run green Sams in a 56 and I totally agree with you on the double top tube. You will find plenty of folks in this forum who are thrilled with their 2TT bikes and agree with the premise for making them that way. I, however, find my single TT more than adequate for doing all of the things you describe and prefer the aesthetics of the single TT. I've done everything but a loaded tour with it, and I think it could handle that as well. I will say that if I was looking at $1500 to get the Waterford Sam I'd save another $500 to get either an Atlantis or AHH as you're 75% of the way to a premium frame. Alternatively, you could look for a used Sam with the single TT as they occasionally come up on the forum. D.G. On Jan 19, 1:13 pm, Mike Goldsworthy mgoldswor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all - My first time posting...I've been wanting to get a steel lugged bike for a while now to use for commuting, grocery shopping, rides with the kids...basically an all around general bike to use when I'm not riding a road bike. I've finally landed on the Sam, and have been saving to get enough $ to do a complete build. I'm about half way there, and discovered on their website that it seems the 56cm only comes with a double top tube. I emailed a few days ago to ask if this is the case, but haven't heard back. So, here's what I'm wondering - is the 56cm Sam only with a double top tube now? If so, what would you suggest as some other options? I really like the look and the idea of the Sam, but honestly don't like the look of the double top tube at all...and if I'm spending that much, I want to love not only the feel of it when I ride, but also I want to love the look of it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne 56cm question
Hey Mike, I don't have the answer about the double top tube but I enjoy looking at my bike almost as much as riding it! Especially after a complete take apart and cleaning! Hi all - My first time posting...I've been wanting to get a steel lugged bike for a while now to use for commuting, grocery shopping, rides with the kids...basically an all around general bike to use when I'm not riding a road bike. I've finally landed on the Sam, and have been saving to get enough $ to do a complete build. I'm about half way there, and discovered on their website that it seems the 56cm only comes with a double top tube. I emailed a few days ago to ask if this is the case, but haven't heard back. So, here's what I'm wondering - is the 56cm Sam only with a double top tube now? If so, what would you suggest as some other options? I really like the look and the idea of the Sam, but honestly don't like the look of the double top tube at all...and if I'm spending that much, I want to love not only the feel of it when I ride, but also I want to love the look of it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Big Sale shipping backlog
Thank you all for being patient. Our shippers (Robert and Jenny) are good, efficient, alla that...and when the load is bigger than usual, we can't throw another person in to help, because the process is ... systematized and consistent, and you put a dummy in there and all heck breaks loose. So, we've been emphasizing accuracy over speed, since even a single return when it's our foul-up stops too much action in the fixing of it. So, thank you for all of your patience. G On Jan 19, 4:38 pm, Andrew ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: I just got notice of some Big Sale items shipping, was frankly starting to worry. Kudos to the RBW crew for working through the backlog, much appreciated. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Big Sale shipping backlog
delighted with my box of sale items. LOVE, LOVE,LOVE the MUSA pants. Wearing the green cotton tee today (over a smartwool L/S baselayer) and sad that the jersey I ordered was already sold out. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 12:23 PM, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you all for being patient. Our shippers (Robert and Jenny) are good, efficient, alla that...and when the load is bigger than usual, we can't throw another person in to help, because the process is ... systematized and consistent, and you put a dummy in there and all heck breaks loose. So, we've been emphasizing accuracy over speed, since even a single return when it's our foul-up stops too much action in the fixing of it. So, thank you for all of your patience. G -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Bar Tape
Like Rene, I like Brooks and have become an almost exclusive user of their leather tape. It lasts a long time and is very comfy to me. Toshi leather tape is also very nice but not as long lasting. I have not liked Selle Anatomica bar tape. It doesn't look as nice, stay in place as well or feel as good to me. I do match bar tape to saddle color as closely as possible, but not to bag colors. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:56 AM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.comwrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/4530205372/in/set-72157622958472288 Right now I've switched to Bullmoose bars on almost all my bikes and love the ergonomic PDW leather grips. However, for the last year+ I've been using honey Brooks leather tape and love it. In the spirit of elevating my bag-matcher status... has anyone tried to match bar tape to their green Sackville bags? I assume green cloth wrap + a few coats of amber shellac would get re -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Bar Tape
I've been using Bontrager tape for the last few wraps that I've done. It looks good (the brown color goes well with Brooks saddles and tan canvas), provides good padding, and is long enough to wrap the bars nice and thick. It also doesn't have permanent glue on the back, so you can unwrap and re-wrap the bars without destroying the tape. --Eric N Sent from my iPad2 On Jan 20, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.com wrote: Like Rene, I like Brooks and have become an almost exclusive user of their leather tape. It lasts a long time and is very comfy to me. Toshi leather tape is also very nice but not as long lasting. I have not liked Selle Anatomica bar tape. It doesn't look as nice, stay in place as well or feel as good to me. I do match bar tape to saddle color as closely as possible, but not to bag colors. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:56 AM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Right now I've switched to Bullmoose bars on almost all my bikes and love the ergonomic PDW leather grips. However, for the last year+ I've been using honey Brooks leather tape and love it. In the spirit of elevating my bag-matcher status... has anyone tried to match bar tape to their green Sackville bags? I assume green cloth wrap + a few coats of amber shellac would get re -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Say NO to Internet censorship
So, can we follow the list rules and not post politics/religion/other OT items? Thanks Bruce On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: the vote is being delayed, which is fantastic. nothing wrong with the idea of preventing piracy, there just has to be a better way of doing it than through terrible legislation: http://www.pcworld.com/article/248466/internets_protest_prods_us_senate_to_delay_vote.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Bar Tape
Eric That's what I don;t like about it. It won't stay in place! email me your snail and I'll send you my Bontrager! Bruce On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I've been using Bontrager tape It also doesn't have permanent glue on the back, so you can unwrap and re-wrap the bars without destroying the tape. --Eric N -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012
I have ridden this portion of the trail on Panaracer Pasela 32s Non-TG and was just fine. 5 of us rode from Pittsburgh to DC in 5 days and had nary a flat among us. Tires ranged from 28mm touring tires to lightweight Vittoria Cyclocross tires. I think you'll be fine. Cheers, Sean --- On Fri, 1/20/12, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: From: Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012 To: 'rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com' rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, January 20, 2012, 12:43 PM Steve: Would Jack Brown Greens (the lighter weight version) be okay on the trail, or do I (ideally, anyway) need something fatter and sturdier? Tom -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Palincsar Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 6:05 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012 On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 14:54 -0800, islaysteve wrote: Since I took the time to explore the links that Bobby provided, I've answered most of my questions: It looks like a moderate climb out of Frostburg for 10+ miles to the Eastern Continental Divide (cool), and then moderate downhill all the way. Pretty good for an out-of-shape geezer like me. The GAP looks incredible and I'd really like to ride it; if not on this trip, in the future. If I decide to join, I will be riding my Bleriot fitted with Pari-Motos. I assume that this would be sufficient? It would be perfect. The GAP is a crushed limestone surface, very well packed, no loose top layer at all, and great drainage. It rained for 2 days when I was on it, and had rained heavily for days before we got there, and we saw 1 puddle for the entire distance from McKeesport to Cumberland. I would also still be interested in any details of the ride, especially the first day. Also, I'm not sure how the second day with possible side trip to Fallingwater would work, but most likely I would sit out that side trip. Thanks for planning this Bobby. Cheers, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4wyBW-akG18J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012
The JB Greens work great on gravel and crushed limestone of the type Steve P described. No promises that you won't get a flat or six, but I never flatted them riding around Minneapolis several hundred miles last summer...until I went out to Oregon and flatted numerous times on thorns. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/iVkmC99PB5AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Big Sale shipping backlog
On 1/20/12, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.com wrote: delighted with my box of sale items. LOVE, LOVE,LOVE the MUSA pants. Wearing the green cotton tee today (over a smartwool L/S baselayer) and sad that the jersey I ordered was already sold out. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 12:23 PM, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you all for being patient. Our shippers (Robert and Jenny) are good, efficient, alla that...and when the load is bigger than usual, we can't throw another person in to help, because the process is ... systematized and consistent, and you put a dummy in there and all heck breaks loose. So, we've been emphasizing accuracy over speed, since even a single return when it's our foul-up stops too much action in the fixing of it. So, thank you for all of your patience. G -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bar Tape
If your tape moves around, trying wrapping first with electrical friction tape. Handlebra suggests it, I have Handlebra on one bike, it does stay in place and the color is still solid. What color tape goes with British racing green ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ACxqucHSB6EJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne 56cm question
Mike, You may want to contact the Country Bike Shop in Celina, Ohio at WWW.CountryBikeshop.com They are an exclusive Riv dealer and the last time I was there they had some 56 Sams with a single TT. Steve Hemmelgarn From: Mike Goldsworthy mgoldswor...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 3:13 PM Subject: [RBW] Sam Hillborne 56cm question Hi all - My first time posting...I've been wanting to get a steel lugged bike for a while now to use for commuting, grocery shopping, rides with the kids...basically an all around general bike to use when I'm not riding a road bike. I've finally landed on the Sam, and have been saving to get enough $ to do a complete build. I'm about half way there, and discovered on their website that it seems the 56cm only comes with a double top tube. I emailed a few days ago to ask if this is the case, but haven't heard back. So, here's what I'm wondering - is the 56cm Sam only with a double top tube now? If so, what would you suggest as some other options? I really like the look and the idea of the Sam, but honestly don't like the look of the double top tube at all...and if I'm spending that much, I want to love not only the feel of it when I ride, but also I want to love the look of it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bar Tape
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 12:21 -0800, Scott G. wrote: If your tape moves around, trying wrapping first with electrical friction tape. Handlebra suggests it, As does the Wikipedia. It is one of the classic uses of friction tape. I have Handlebra on one bike, it does stay in place and the color is still solid. What color tape goes with British racing green ? Handlebra dark brown or fine cigar; Fujitoshi honey. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 12:03 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: The JB Greens work great on gravel and crushed limestone of the type Steve P described. No promises that you won't get a flat or six, but I never flatted them riding around Minneapolis several hundred miles last summer...until I went out to Oregon and flatted numerous times on thorns. In my group, I was the only one to have a flat - on a CdlV - and that, I think, was a fluke. The GAP surface isn't sharp. There's a GAP flickr group pool http://www.flickr.com/groups/great_allegheny_passage/pool/show/ with over 2,000 photos. You can get a good idea of what the surface looks like viewing the slide show. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 12:43 -0500, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote: Steve: Would Jack Brown Greens (the lighter weight version) be okay on the trail, or do I (ideally, anyway) need something fatter and sturdier? Many people think 33.33mm wide tires are plenty fat for seriously bad gravel roads like those on the Deerfield Dirt Road Randonnee - which is far rougher than the surface of the GAP. All crushed limestone is not created equal. I was on the Greenbrier Trail in West Virginia, also paved with crushed limestone, last summer (finished up on Earthquake Day). There, the top surface - maybe 1/2 inch or so - is loose, with a firm bottom under that. You get up out of the saddle and whoopsie! the rear end acts like it's on ball bearings. Nothing at all like that on the GAP. There, at least when I was there, the surface is solid all the way from top to bottom. In other words, you don't sink in much so wide floation's not so critical. On the final stretch from Frostburg to Cumberland, the steep part, we saw a couple of roadies on 23mm racing tires heading up towards Frostburg. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bar Tape
I have Brooks green tape with the green saddle. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Scott G. sco...@primax.com wrote: If your tape moves around, trying wrapping first with electrical friction tape. Handlebra suggests it, I have Handlebra on one bike, it does stay in place and the color is still solid. What color tape goes with British racing green ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ACxqucHSB6EJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012
I'm waiting on several shuttle services to respond to my requests. Only one has gotten back to me, and they require that we rent an entire bus... Unless we have 40 people it may not be practical. One option I'm considering will be to start in Cumberland, MD, booking a hotel close to the Cumberland Amtrak station for Friday night (as long as I can leave my bike and gear in my hotel room or some other secure place). The Capitol Limited runs daily from Connellsville to Cumberland (at 6:30 AM!!!). We could drive our cars up to Connellsville early on Saturday, park them and hop the Capitol Limited back to Cumberland, where we would check out and ride to the trail. That's a $17 solution (plus a few hours of lost sleep)... It also makes for a slightly later start on Saturday morning, and adds 16 miles of uphill from Cumberland... no big deal, right?? BB On Jan 20, 5:16 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 12:43 -0500, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote: Steve: Would Jack Brown Greens (the lighter weight version) be okay on the trail, or do I (ideally, anyway) need something fatter and sturdier? Many people think 33.33mm wide tires are plenty fat for seriously bad gravel roads like those on the Deerfield Dirt Road Randonnee - which is far rougher than the surface of the GAP. All crushed limestone is not created equal. I was on the Greenbrier Trail in West Virginia, also paved with crushed limestone, last summer (finished up on Earthquake Day). There, the top surface - maybe 1/2 inch or so - is loose, with a firm bottom under that. You get up out of the saddle and whoopsie! the rear end acts like it's on ball bearings. Nothing at all like that on the GAP. There, at least when I was there, the surface is solid all the way from top to bottom. In other words, you don't sink in much so wide floation's not so critical. On the final stretch from Frostburg to Cumberland, the steep part, we saw a couple of roadies on 23mm racing tires heading up towards Frostburg. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bar Tape
The dark green Viva might match British Racing Green, or be a tone of it. I had it on my Quickbeam. http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/261997643/ Magenta tape could look nice as a complementary color. Brown or leather for sure. Philip On Jan 20, 3:21 pm, Scott G. sco...@primax.com wrote: If your tape moves around, trying wrapping first with electrical friction tape. Handlebra suggests it, I have Handlebra on one bike, it does stay in place and the color is still solid. What color tape goes with British racing green ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne 56cm question
Have you looked at the Soma San Marcos, the 54cm does not have the 2TT but I believe the geometry is similar to the 56cm but not sure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/p8xMS9KuPU0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012
The early hour and drive I could do, extra uphill maybe. But I need to get in a bit of shape before then. I know that sounds sorry. Would prefer another solution if possible. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Ao-jgvJfPeEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Say NO to Internet censorship
Doesn't matter to me how many are against it. Stealing is still wrong .. Stop pirating / steeling and these type of bills wouldn't be discussed. So that means you are against blocking the child porn site as well.. It political crap better suited for the political talks shows. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Ddod9_7E_QcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Say NO to Internet censorship
You're right young brother, you're right. There was a remark on here earlier about blocking the Riv site. Grant's pretty smart and I'm sure he's done his homework. However, if he used the name, and it was trademarked, and he didn't have permission, well that's that. I would agree that big money is behind this, but so what. In fact, it has to be so-how many times has congress agreed on anything, but, boom, here they are. So you know some contributors got on the phone. Or lobbyists or what have you. Think of all the videos of old bands that are on You Tube. Every time one of those is played, those guys are entitled to a cut, however small. They earned it and deserve it. I'm stymied to find any argument more ridiculous than. Don't they have enough money?. That's not the point. RGZ On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't matter to me how many are against it. Stealing is still wrong .. Stop pirating / steeling and these type of bills wouldn't be discussed. So that means you are against blocking the child porn site as well.. It political crap better suited for the political talks shows. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Ddod9_7E_QcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Say NO to Internet censorship
BTW, a few years ago, when OJ Simpson was on trial, I TM'd the letters, name, abbreviation O.J. Every time it's mentioned I get a few cents. Ever wonder why they never say OJ on orange juice commercials? On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:48 PM, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: You're right young brother, you're right. There was a remark on here earlier about blocking the Riv site. Grant's pretty smart and I'm sure he's done his homework. However, if he used the name, and it was trademarked, and he didn't have permission, well that's that. I would agree that big money is behind this, but so what. In fact, it has to be so-how many times has congress agreed on anything, but, boom, here they are. So you know some contributors got on the phone. Or lobbyists or what have you. Think of all the videos of old bands that are on You Tube. Every time one of those is played, those guys are entitled to a cut, however small. They earned it and deserve it. I'm stymied to find any argument more ridiculous than. Don't they have enough money?. That's not the point. RGZ On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't matter to me how many are against it. Stealing is still wrong .. Stop pirating / steeling and these type of bills wouldn't be discussed. So that means you are against blocking the child porn site as well.. It political crap better suited for the political talks shows. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Ddod9_7E_QcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Say NO to Internet censorship
Umm..because after the OJ trial no sane orange juice producer would be stupid enough to use those letters? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/wlclq5Y1Nm8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: my death valley ride report (in progress)
Do it! You could cover a lot of ground out there in 72 hr. All you need is 3 gallons of water and a sleeping bag/pad! Here's my latest: http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2012/01/death-valley-furnace-creek-area.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/p2rDrEsOgBcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bar Tape
The Dark Piney Green Japanese tape with a few coats of amber shellac is a pretty good match for the Sackville bags, but RBW appears to be out of it at the moment. That tape is probably my least favorite to apply though - the adhesive is stickier than my old favorite Tressostar, and it has a backing paper that you have to fight with. Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/m35j8rvQW4wJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne 56cm question
Double top tubes have good meritsI for one, would like one and love the unique look and practical benefits. Almost wish my SimpleOne were so equipped.speaking of the SO thats not a bad deal @ $800 and if you can live with a nice freewheel on a Phil hub then you could make a really nice 10 or 15 speed deraileur bicycle not to mention a IG hub bike or leave it a 1-4 speed deraileurless machine. I love mine and don't miss the extra gears. A bike so equipped (10 speed) was all we ever needed back in the day. When properly set up with the right gearing you would be at no disadvantage at all IMHO. My own geared machine is on a seven cog rear set up so yea.think about it. On Jan 19, 12:13 pm, Mike Goldsworthy mgoldswor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all - My first time posting...I've been wanting to get a steel lugged bike for a while now to use for commuting, grocery shopping, rides with the kids...basically an all around general bike to use when I'm not riding a road bike. I've finally landed on the Sam, and have been saving to get enough $ to do a complete build. I'm about half way there, and discovered on their website that it seems the 56cm only comes with a double top tube. I emailed a few days ago to ask if this is the case, but haven't heard back. So, here's what I'm wondering - is the 56cm Sam only with a double top tube now? If so, what would you suggest as some other options? I really like the look and the idea of the Sam, but honestly don't like the look of the double top tube at all...and if I'm spending that much, I want to love not only the feel of it when I ride, but also I want to love the look of it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012
Steve: That's the fallback option... The first choice would be for Amtrak to get their sh** together and allow roll-on/roll-off for bikes (but I won't hold my breath) Second choice would be to get a shuttle service to transport people and bikes between the finish and the start (which I'm working on) Third choice might be for people to use multiple vehicles to shuttle themselves (if the first 2 options don't materialize) And then there's another variation of the last choice: do it a day early. In other words, get a hotel for Thursday night in Cumberland, do the car-shuttle-train thing Friday morning, then spend the entire day (Friday) taking your time, riding the climb at a leisurely pace, spend the night in Frostburg and meet up with everyone Sat morning. That might be a nice warmup ride. I have also checked into bus service between Connellsville and Cumberland, but I haven't found anything yet. That would be ideal, especially if the bus operator would allow bikes unboxed in the cargo area; you could drop your car in C'ville and shuttle down to C'land. Boy, so many options... Peace, BB On Jan 20, 7:49 pm, islaysteve alkire...@verizon.net wrote: The early hour and drive I could do, extra uphill maybe. But I need to get in a bit of shape before then. I know that sounds sorry. Would prefer another solution if possible. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Say NO to Internet censorship
Doesn't matter to me how many are against it. Democracy. Stealing is still wrong .. Stop pirating / steeling and these type of bills wouldn't be discussed. Due process. It's one of our founding principles and I think allot of people still like it. Hence the multitudes coming out against this bill. It political crap better suited for the political talks shows. If this post bothered me I'd probably not read it. Just kidding. It's the things we don't like which seem to hook us in. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ZBYadGAi1Y4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Say NO to Internet censorship
Grant may be a smart guy, but even the author of the bill violated it on accident. http://mashable.com/2012/01/12/sopa-sponsor/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2tOAGDPM2rQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Say NO to Internet censorship
Actually camper it's not not liking it it's voicing an opinion.. Democracy hmm. So two rapist and one woman .. Guess rape would be legal. I write a book, a song etc. I make one copy for sale. That's all folks.. No amount of numbers wanting to read it makes it ok to force more copies The bills they are discussing may be really really really bad and need to be defeated. The criminal activity it is trying to prevent. Is not trivial or democratic ..it's flat out illegal. The arguments that the criminal activity is ok is sad, and wrong. The masses do NOT have the right to take my intellectual property at any price other than what I say. If I want to much money don't buy it. Still not ok to steal it. You can't vote it away either it's mine. Censorship of the Internet .. Well will the outrage continue for freedom when it's your kid in the photo on a server in another country... That is already the case.. But we would rather fight for freedom to steel than to protect kids. The bill may be just as flawed as our healthcare bill.. Yet it passed.. Due process.. Votes talking about it.. All good. On the bicycle forum.. Not so much.. It's here and I'll participate.. In good humor even.. So we have all jumped on the band wagon.. It's just so so warm and fuzzy feeling... Scary thing is most of you screaming against blocking the ip of a criminal would turn around and vote to force me to put a helmet on... Then complain when the others vote to keep your bicycle off the road. .. Oops democracy . But don't you dare block the ip of a crook.. Do nothing since the fix Might,, or possibly could, maybe be, abused or carried to far... Step all over my right to be protected then call it democracy.. Or oh they make to much money..they can afford it.. Do your fair share so I don't have to Just because the world is turning into this pack mentality of oh my look at this doesn't make it right either.. Mindless following and yelling no without looking at the problem is just as bad as the bill you want to block. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/sgoUx7tEuoEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Say NO to Internet censorship
This cat just needed a Rivendell to chill him out. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/21/technology/founder-of-shuttered-file-sharing-site-sought-limelight.html?_r=1hp Ryan On Jan 20, 8:40 pm, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote: Grant may be a smart guy, but even the author of the bill violated it on accident. http://mashable.com/2012/01/12/sopa-sponsor/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Say NO to Internet censorship
That dude was arrested under current law. We didn't need to change the law to get him. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:23 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: This cat just needed a Rivendell to chill him out. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/21/technology/founder-of-shuttered-file-sharing-site-sought-limelight.html?_r=1hp -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Say NO to Internet censorship
So I'm in a big long conversation on Facebook about a 68 cm Atlantis Saying I want one.. Maybe finding one... Then come to the riv forum for political rhetoric... Life is good Ya know I bet it was the low trail, disc brake, helmet lover anti choice, subversive leather wearing trike gang, recumbent skinny tire, radical carbon fibre racer dude with riv content bell I blame. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TkJEpexpesoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Tubeless candidate???
Today I pulled my Rivy down from the hook and find the rear tire flat. a href=http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/6733538469/in/photostream/;Yep, another goathead. /a I don't know how often this happens, but lets just say I've gone through a 100 pack of Rema tubes in the last few years! So I'm kinda' considering going tubeless with this bike. Sun CR-18 rims and 35mm Paselas. I have my 29er set up that way and love it, but have Stans rims etc. Any experiences positive or negative with a set up like this? -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
