Re: [RBW] Re: Drop Bar Newbie Qs

2012-02-24 Thread newenglandbike
I've tried lots of different drop bars on various bikes and Noodles always 
feel the best to me. With both noodles and traditional drop bars-  when set 
up with the right reach-  I find that when you're riding along on the 
hoods, and decide you want to move to the drops or hooks, they feel 
excessively low and forward at first.But if you give it five minutes in 
that position, your body gets used to it, and it becomes quite 
comfortable.

After riding along settled in the hooks for a while, suddenly you have the 
opposite problem-   moving to the hoods makes you feel bolt-upright, and 
you feel momentarily as though your bars are too high. But give it five 
minutes

I guess the hard part is finding the right reach, where the tops/hoods and 
the hooks feel right for their purpose.But as drop bars go, Noodles 
have the best proportions IMHO.


-Matt

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[RBW] Re: Brooks Saddle Squeaks

2012-02-24 Thread Mike S
I had a noisy B17 for a while and finally the noise stopped... when
the tension bolt broke apart. I noticed that bolrt had been getting
loose a while and then one day while carrying my bike upstairs by the
nose of the saddle, snapperoo. Brooks said I should've been tightening
it more, but agreed to cover a repair. This was probably a rare
occurrence, but something to be aware of.

On Feb 23, 11:29 pm, Larry Schellhase schellh...@gmail.com wrote:
 My Brooks Champion Special squeaks when I ride it. I had it off my bike for
 a couple of years but I missed the looks and feel so I remounted it a
 couple of weeks ago and for a while it was quiet but now the noise is back.
 I hate noisey bikes. It is impossible for me to tell where the saddle is
 squeaking. Any ideas on how to quiet the beast?

 Thanks

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[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Newbie Qs

2012-02-24 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
Matt,

Your description is perfect.


Jay

On Feb 24, 11:35 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've tried lots of different drop bars on various bikes and Noodles always
 feel the best to me. With both noodles and traditional drop bars-  when set
 up with the right reach-  I find that when you're riding along on the
 hoods, and decide you want to move to the drops or hooks, they feel
 excessively low and forward at first.    But if you give it five minutes in
 that position, your body gets used to it, and it becomes quite
 comfortable.

 After riding along settled in the hooks for a while, suddenly you have the
 opposite problem-   moving to the hoods makes you feel bolt-upright, and
 you feel momentarily as though your bars are too high.     But give it five
 minutes

 I guess the hard part is finding the right reach, where the tops/hoods and
 the hooks feel right for their purpose.    But as drop bars go, Noodles
 have the best proportions IMHO.

 -Matt

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[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Newbie Qs

2012-02-24 Thread Michael Hechmer
Smitty, your note doesn't say how hi the bars are in relationship to the 
saddle, but you describe the hoods as feeling aggressive.  I ride on the 
drops quite a bit because I find it shifts the weight on the saddle and 
gives my back a change.  But my bike is set up with the hoods in a 
comfortable position and the drops in an aggressive one.   Also, for me at 
least, being on the drops means being at the very end of the bar, with my 
fingers almost touching the BE shifters.  So, to get this I have the bars 
about 2cm (3/4) below the saddle, but others might find a different height 
gives them this feel.  The only downside I have found to raising drop bars, 
even above the saddle is that it seems to reduce leverage to rock the bike 
while standing up.  If you don't stand up, and as I age I do it less  
less, then I would think the longer stem set higher will bring the hoods 
into a more comfortable position and make the drops more reachable.

Keep the rubber side down,
michael

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[RBW] FS: Gunnar Sport 60 with Waterford threaded steel curved fork

2012-02-24 Thread eflayer
Selling 1.5 year old Gunnar Sport, 60 cm, with custom Waterford curved 
blade, threaded steel fork. Less than 500 miles on it and is in very close 
to perfect condition. A tiny pencil point dot in the clear on the top tube 
and a bit o black paint from the dropouts. The headtube is 1.125 inch so 
can accommodate modern carbon forks. I wanted a somewhat traditional build 
so ordered 1 inch threaded steel fork and installed with headtube reducing 
shims. Works perfectly, looks good too. Has rear rack and fender eyelets 
and front fork fender eyelets. Takes medium reach brakes.

This is a beautifully tig welded frame as you can see in the Picasa album. 
Also, I ordered this frame with the more subtle and smaller Gunnar decals.

Package as new was $1250 plus shipping

Selling frameset with threaded steel fork, seat clamp, and FSA Orbit 
headset. 

$950 shipped in the West, $975 to the East.

eddie dot flayer at att dot net

Photos here in my Picasa album:

https://picasaweb.google.com/107231724174916923201/GunnarFrameset#

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Re: [RBW] Brooks Saddle Squeaks

2012-02-24 Thread Steve Hemmelgarn
Larry,
One of my Brooks saddles developed a squeak recently. I was able to stop the 
sqeak by applying a bit of oil to the point where the rails pivot at the nose 
of the saddle. I had tried lubing many other places without success. 
 
Steve

From: Larry Schellhase schellh...@gmail.com
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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:29 PM
Subject: [RBW] Brooks Saddle Squeaks


My Brooks Champion Special squeaks when I ride it. I had it off my bike for a 
couple of years but I missed the looks and feel so I remounted it a couple of 
weeks ago and for a while it was quiet but now the noise is back. I hate noisey 
bikes. It is impossible for me to tell where the saddle is squeaking. Any ideas 
on how to quiet the beast?

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[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Newbie Qs

2012-02-24 Thread Bill M.
I'm another fan of the 'compact' bar shape, but like eflayer I found
the curve at the ramp of the FSA Omega has such a broad radius that
the straight top section is too narrow.  I swapped it for the 3T
Ergosum which has a tighter bend and solves that problem.  It's also
only sold in black and 31.8, maybe not too attractive on a Hilsen but
fine on my mcrb.

The Soma Hwy 1 might be the answer for the OP - available in 26.0 with
a nice polished finish, short reach so when the tops are set right the
hoods aren't miles out, shallow drop so the low position is usable.
They bumped the Noodle off of my Riv Road.

Bill

On Feb 23, 8:43 pm, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote:
 Noodles are a lovely shape, but the drops are pretty deep. I had them on a
 number of bikes, but nearly never rode in the drops. Now all my bikes are
 sporting compact bars from FSA. The reach to tops and hoods is definitely
 shorter than Noodles, but with shorter reach to the drops, and more
 extension of the drop rearward, for the first time in my later years, I
 ride in the drops on a regular basis. I sometimes wish for a longer flat
 section approaching the hoods, but FSA Omega compact bars suit me quite
 well. Omegas are made only for 31.8 bars, but Soma and Origin 8 and others
 make them for 26.0. Oh yeah, some think compact bars don't look cool and
 traditional and I agree. But we make choices.

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Re: [RBW] Drop Bar Newbie Qs

2012-02-24 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Smitty -- correct bar height and reach are the keys to drop bar comfort. I
personally like Noodles (though narrow ones) when they are high and forward
since I get the best of an upright position on the flats, a comfortable
cruising position on ramps and hoods, and an agressive anti-wind position
on the hooks - we get a *lot* of wind, so this is imperative. I've set up
my Fargo with Noodles set considerably higher than the more agressive
position on my Riv road bikes, where I much prefer the very shallow drop
Maes Parallels.While the Rivs are very comfortable for up to 30 miles (my
typical distance) the Fargo is good off road and is what I would use for
touring.

Photos here: https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Smitty-A-Go-Go 54ca...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've always had straight or upright bars. Went with mustache bars when I
 bought my Hilsen in September. I've been riding the M's for half a year and
 don't hate them but haven't fallen in love with them either. I've decided
 it's time to try a different handlebar. I suspect I may be on the path to
 being an early adopter of the New Bar. In the mean time... I've been
 sitting on a 48cm noodle bar bought off the list here. Today I removed the
 M's and put on the noodles.  I tried them out with 2 stems... 7cm and 9cm.

 My riding style/pace is pretty casual so I imagine most of my riding will
 be on the tops or on the hoods.

 With the 7cm stem the tops are kinda too close but not deal-breader bad,
 the hoods are fine and the drops are close/comfortable enough that I could
 see myself using them.

 With the 9cm stem the tops are in a great place, the hoods seem like a
 good aggressive position, but the drops are so far forward that I'm not
 sure I would use them hardly ever.

 These are all first impressions from a couple laps around the block by a
 guy who's only ever ridden drops a few times on friends' bikes.

 I would love to hear people's opinion's on balancing the aggressive vs
 leisurely positions/set-up on a drop bar.  This may all be a moot point If
 I go with the New Bar next month but it's fun to fiddle with for now.

 --Smitty

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Re: [RBW] Uber-Tall Cockpit Dilemma

2012-02-24 Thread PATRICK MOORE
When I wanted to get my Noodles high enough on a 48 cm (19), level tt,
short ht mtb (my Herse was a 60), Riv told me that the 10 cm DD had by far
the greatest height of any stem they sold -- they didn't sell the Tallux
then, but the 10 cm DD was far higher than the TD or the T. I was able to
get the Ns higher than the saddle with a lot of quill to spare.

Also, don't use your saddle to adjust bar reach! Get your saddle in the
right place for pedaling efficiency and saddle comfort and measure all
other component positions from the saddle.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Mike S mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Now that I've been riding my ridiculously perfect-fitting 64cm Sam
 Hillborne a bit, it's become clear to me that my 64cm Quickbeam w/
 Dirtdrop stem  moustache bars gives me less extension than is ideal.
 I impulsively bought the QB when it first debuted, and I should have
 gotten a 66 or 68 over the 64. Also, using the Nitto lugged seatpost
 as far back as possible, and it's still not enough reach.

 In addition to not being enough reach, the Dirtdrop is at the minimum
 insertion line and it's only about even with the saddle, and I'd like
 it higher. The option I am most in favor of right now would be
 replacing the DD with a 13cm tallux, in the belief that a technomic
 would give me more horizontal extension than a DD, and the 3cm
 additional quill length would make up for the loss of up-angle. I'm
 also considering being slightly reckless and raising it above the min.
 insertion mark if I can't get enough height in regulation.

 The other option would be to get the stem extension Riv sells and
 throw a technomic in there I guess, but the thought of the something
 so kludgy on an otherwise excessively nice setup is a little
 horrifying for my perfectionism to bear.

 I'm just wondering if there are any of you tall dudes who've had
 similar issues with getting bikes to fit, and if my hypothesis will
 actually work in achieving more extension AND stem height. Thanks for
 any input!

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Re: [RBW] Uber-Tall Cockpit Dilemma

2012-02-24 Thread PATRICK MOORE
This is what I was looking for: http://www.rivbike.com/Articles.asp?ID=326

It shows clearly the height of all the different stems they sell; the 10 cm
DD is still the highest.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:50 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 When I wanted to get my Noodles high enough on a 48 cm (19), level tt,
 short ht mtb (my Herse was a 60), Riv told me that the 10 cm DD had by far
 the greatest height of any stem they sold -- they didn't sell the Tallux
 then, but the 10 cm DD was far higher than the TD or the T. I was able to
 get the Ns higher than the saddle with a lot of quill to spare.

 Also, don't use your saddle to adjust bar reach! Get your saddle in the
 right place for pedaling efficiency and saddle comfort and measure all
 other component positions from the saddle.


 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Mike S mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Now that I've been riding my ridiculously perfect-fitting 64cm Sam
 Hillborne a bit, it's become clear to me that my 64cm Quickbeam w/
 Dirtdrop stem  moustache bars gives me less extension than is ideal.
 I impulsively bought the QB when it first debuted, and I should have
 gotten a 66 or 68 over the 64. Also, using the Nitto lugged seatpost
 as far back as possible, and it's still not enough reach.

 In addition to not being enough reach, the Dirtdrop is at the minimum
 insertion line and it's only about even with the saddle, and I'd like
 it higher. The option I am most in favor of right now would be
 replacing the DD with a 13cm tallux, in the belief that a technomic
 would give me more horizontal extension than a DD, and the 3cm
 additional quill length would make up for the loss of up-angle. I'm
 also considering being slightly reckless and raising it above the min.
 insertion mark if I can't get enough height in regulation.

 The other option would be to get the stem extension Riv sells and
 throw a technomic in there I guess, but the thought of the something
 so kludgy on an otherwise excessively nice setup is a little
 horrifying for my perfectionism to bear.

 I'm just wondering if there are any of you tall dudes who've had
 similar issues with getting bikes to fit, and if my hypothesis will
 actually work in achieving more extension AND stem height. Thanks for
 any input!

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Re: [RBW] Uber-Tall Cockpit Dilemma

2012-02-24 Thread Andrew
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 6:56 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is what I was looking for: http://www.rivbike.com/Articles.asp?ID=326

 It shows clearly the height of all the different stems they sell; the 10
 cm DD is still the highest.


Here's another useful link for comparing the relative reach, height, and
extension of different Nitto stems:

http://biketouringnews.com/bike-and-gear-guide/components/touring-bike-handlebars/handlebars-stems/

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Brooks Saddle Squeaks

2012-02-24 Thread Montclair BobbyB
In my experience it's always a case of something being loose... mostly
due to loose rails... although in one case my tensioning bolt was the
culprit.  In general, grease and proper tightening WILL solve the
problem; it comes down to ensuring you have the right amount of
BOTH... don't be stingy with either.

Hope that works for you.

BB

On Feb 24, 9:26 am, Steve Hemmelgarn trekcommu...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Larry,
 One of my Brooks saddles developed a squeak recently. I was able to stop the 
 sqeak by applying a bit of oil to the point where the rails pivot at the nose 
 of the saddle. I had tried lubing many other places without success.

 Steve

 From: Larry Schellhase schellh...@gmail.com
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:29 PM
 Subject: [RBW] Brooks Saddle Squeaks

 My Brooks Champion Special squeaks when I ride it. I had it off my bike for a 
 couple of years but I missed the looks and feel so I remounted it a couple of 
 weeks ago and for a while it was quiet but now the noise is back. I hate 
 noisey bikes. It is impossible for me to tell where the saddle is squeaking. 
 Any ideas on how to quiet the beast?

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[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Newbie Qs

2012-02-24 Thread Smitty-A-Go-Go
Bar height (which I interpret as stem clamp center) is an inch above saddle 
height. 

I should also point out that my idea of an aggressive position is likely 
skewed by my riding relatively upright cargo bikes 5 days a week.  

I kind of knew this going in but it sounds like my best bet is to pick a 
stem, wire the brakes and go for a ride longer than around the block to see 
what happens when I get used to the set-up.  

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[RBW] Re: Uber-Tall Cockpit Dilemma

2012-02-24 Thread Mike On A Bike
Well, according to RBW the DirtDrop gives me 82mm horizontal
extension, so that's not so appealing to me. I can live with the lack
of height above saddle, as it is my city fixie and I can roll with
what I'll call a more aerodynamic setup, but more stretch would be
really nice. It's sounding like a stem extension  technomic may be
how I need to solve this...

On Feb 23, 4:22 pm, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
 have you looked at the super tall periscopa? Ben's cycles has them in I
 believe but with only 80mm extension might not be what you are looking for.
 On Feb 23, 2012 4:04 PM, Mike S mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote:







  Now that I've been riding my ridiculously perfect-fitting 64cm Sam
  Hillborne a bit, it's become clear to me that my 64cm Quickbeam w/
  Dirtdrop stem  moustache bars gives me less extension than is ideal.
  I impulsively bought the QB when it first debuted, and I should have
  gotten a 66 or 68 over the 64. Also, using the Nitto lugged seatpost
  as far back as possible, and it's still not enough reach.

  In addition to not being enough reach, the Dirtdrop is at the minimum
  insertion line and it's only about even with the saddle, and I'd like
  it higher. The option I am most in favor of right now would be
  replacing the DD with a 13cm tallux, in the belief that a technomic
  would give me more horizontal extension than a DD, and the 3cm
  additional quill length would make up for the loss of up-angle. I'm
  also considering being slightly reckless and raising it above the min.
  insertion mark if I can't get enough height in regulation.

  The other option would be to get the stem extension Riv sells and
  throw a technomic in there I guess, but the thought of the something
  so kludgy on an otherwise excessively nice setup is a little
  horrifying for my perfectionism to bear.

  I'm just wondering if there are any of you tall dudes who've had
  similar issues with getting bikes to fit, and if my hypothesis will
  actually work in achieving more extension AND stem height. Thanks for
  any input!

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[RBW] Re: Grant, in (or soon to be) in print.

2012-02-24 Thread Marc Irwin
Actually it's the potassium!  
http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2012/02/super-bowl-sunday.html?m=1

Marc

On Feb 22, 3:00 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
 Its the salt in the V8 that helps with cramps. A packet of salt does
 the trick, too - but pretty nasty.

 Book looks good!

 Esteban
 San Diego, Calif.

 On Feb 22, 7:51 am, Pam Ellen Hudson pammieel...@gmail.com wrote:



  I too ordered the book on Kindle - although admittedly I'm just a
  lurker (I don't own a Riv  - 7 other bikes though). . . I want a Riv
  Betty Foy (one of the new frames). . .but just bought a Brompton (dare
  I say it - I travel 19 weeks a year) and am in a bike buying freeze
  right now.  Once we go to Daylight Saving Time, I might be able to
  justify it as a commuter;)

  The book sounds very interesting and Grant-like  - and I'm all for
  supporting bike authors:)

  On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:58 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote:

   On Wed, 2012-02-22 at 06:41 -0800, Ginz wrote:
   Guess I'm switching to V8 in my water bottle! Bleecchhh!.

   That's pretty nasty, for sure.  However, V8 has some great advantages:
   it's loaded with electrolytes, seems to work wonders for me with leg
   cramps, and around here, at least, you can expect to find it in every
   country store no matter how remote.  You'll find it in places where
   Dr.
   Pepper is the closest thing to a sports drink and Red Man passes
   for a
   snack food.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Uber-Tall Cockpit Dilemma

2012-02-24 Thread Matthew Hoult
Mike,

Thought this might help.  Though, you might already have seen it:

RivBike Nitto Stem Comparison http://www.rivbike.com/Articles.asp?ID=326

Good luck!

Matt



On 23 February 2012 16:57, Mike S mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the suggestion, but as the DD has an extension of 82mm,
 that wouldn't be helping me. I could live with the bars being level
 with the saddle, but a couple centimeters more extension would be
 really awesome. I'm not even sure that a technomic has that much more
 than a DD, but if it does, I may just go for the stem riser and
 technomic option.

 If only I had fully downed the Grant Petersen buy-a-size-up Kool-Aid
 when I was a greenhorned Rivver...

 On Feb 23, 4:22 pm, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
  have you looked at the super tall periscopa? Ben's cycles has them in I
  believe but with only 80mm extension might not be what you are looking
 for.
  On Feb 23, 2012 4:04 PM, Mike S mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Now that I've been riding my ridiculously perfect-fitting 64cm Sam
   Hillborne a bit, it's become clear to me that my 64cm Quickbeam w/
   Dirtdrop stem  moustache bars gives me less extension than is ideal.
   I impulsively bought the QB when it first debuted, and I should have
   gotten a 66 or 68 over the 64. Also, using the Nitto lugged seatpost
   as far back as possible, and it's still not enough reach.
 
   In addition to not being enough reach, the Dirtdrop is at the minimum
   insertion line and it's only about even with the saddle, and I'd like
   it higher. The option I am most in favor of right now would be
   replacing the DD with a 13cm tallux, in the belief that a technomic
   would give me more horizontal extension than a DD, and the 3cm
   additional quill length would make up for the loss of up-angle. I'm
   also considering being slightly reckless and raising it above the min.
   insertion mark if I can't get enough height in regulation.
 
   The other option would be to get the stem extension Riv sells and
   throw a technomic in there I guess, but the thought of the something
   so kludgy on an otherwise excessively nice setup is a little
   horrifying for my perfectionism to bear.
 
   I'm just wondering if there are any of you tall dudes who've had
   similar issues with getting bikes to fit, and if my hypothesis will
   actually work in achieving more extension AND stem height. Thanks for
   any input!
 
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[RBW] Re: Uber-Tall Cockpit Dilemma

2012-02-24 Thread Mark Fredrickson
Are you dead set on a quill stem? VO makes a nice quill to threadless
adapter. If you need more height, Soma makes a ludicrously tall
version. You would have many more options with threadless stems.
Again, VO has some nice options.

I'm 6' 4 and this will be my solution for getting a set up bars up to
saddle height on a sport tourer conversion project.

-M

On Feb 23, 3:04 pm, Mike S mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote:
 Now that I've been riding my ridiculously perfect-fitting 64cm Sam
 Hillborne a bit, it's become clear to me that my 64cm Quickbeam w/
 Dirtdrop stem  moustache bars gives me less extension than is ideal.
 I impulsively bought the QB when it first debuted, and I should have
 gotten a 66 or 68 over the 64. Also, using the Nitto lugged seatpost
 as far back as possible, and it's still not enough reach.

 In addition to not being enough reach, the Dirtdrop is at the minimum
 insertion line and it's only about even with the saddle, and I'd like
 it higher. The option I am most in favor of right now would be
 replacing the DD with a 13cm tallux, in the belief that a technomic
 would give me more horizontal extension than a DD, and the 3cm
 additional quill length would make up for the loss of up-angle. I'm
 also considering being slightly reckless and raising it above the min.
 insertion mark if I can't get enough height in regulation.

 The other option would be to get the stem extension Riv sells and
 throw a technomic in there I guess, but the thought of the something
 so kludgy on an otherwise excessively nice setup is a little
 horrifying for my perfectionism to bear.

 I'm just wondering if there are any of you tall dudes who've had
 similar issues with getting bikes to fit, and if my hypothesis will
 actually work in achieving more extension AND stem height. Thanks for
 any input!

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[RBW] Re: Uber-Tall Cockpit Dilemma

2012-02-24 Thread Dick Denning
Mike: 
 
Think about using a Soma High Rider Stem Adapter, along with a threadless 
stem.  You'll get up to 60mm more height out 
of the stem adapter than you can get out a Technomic or a Tallux, more 
extension that the Dirt Drop, and you can gain a 
bit more height by using a stem with some rise to it.  And the Soma part is 
available in silver.  It will look more ungainly 
than the Tallux, but it might fill the bill for what you're looking for. 
 
Dick 
 
 

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[RBW] Re: East Coast Rivendells / BOBs

2012-02-24 Thread Peter F
Just to reiterate, I think it make a HUGE difference which
neighborhood you in.  Williamsburg may be more risky. I've been
locking my Atlantis in Chelsea/West Village/Tribeca/East Village and
haven't had a problem. (Knock on wood) The times I've had thing stolen
off my ride are when I've locked up in Flatiron or Midtown.

Not to generalize, but I think the worst offenders for stealing parts
off your bike are the messengers, but that's strictly based on
anecdotal evidence. Having the whole bike stolen is another matter and
honestly, a Rivendell, just because there aren't many of them and
they're pretty unique looking, is probably a lot harder to move on the
black market than a Nishiki or a Schwinn or a Giant or a generic
looking CF ride. The restaurant delivery guys wouldn't want it and it
would be a little too obvious for a hipster to be suddenly riding a
Quickbeam or an Atlantis. And who else would want it? Not too many
folks who'd buy one from a shady character.

Thus, while we're certainly not immune to theft here, the fact that
we're a small niche does work in our favor a bit.

Peter
NYC


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 Sorry having had bikes stolen in Brooklyn before I would never lock up an
 Atlantis or my homer  outside,  being out my 200 dollar nishiki is one
 thing being out my right would be another.  Seen so many Cl posts about
 bikes stolen and especially in hipsterburg.
 On Feb 23, 2012 9:16 PM, Brad buttermyba...@gmail.com wrote:


  I've had a few lights stolen. I don't leave them on my bike anymore.
  But I have been leaving my saddlebag on for a while. Two or three
  years and it hasn't been stolen (knock on wood). My thinking is that
  people who steal bike parts don't know what they're worth and they're
  a little tricky to get off. Or I've just been lucky.

  On Feb 22, 3:52 pm, Peter F phfmu...@gmail.com wrote:
   Can't speak for Brad, but I lock my Atlantis outside short term when
   I'm running errands. Knock on wood, I haven't had any problems yet. At
   least not with the bike itself. Had my headlight stolen once because I
   forgot and left it on the bike. And I take any saddlebags, handlebar
   bags off when lock it too.  I generally just use one of the Kryptonite
   NYC u-locks, usually through the front wheel and frame, but if I'm
   leaving it for a longer time I'll also use a heavy duty cable lock
   through the rear wheel and frame too.

   My impression is that bike theft rates vary widely from neighborhood
   to neighborhood. But maybe I've just been lucky too.

   I figure the Atlantis is for riding. If it gets stolen or vandalized,
   well, it would be pretty annoying and an inconvenience for sure, but
   just another excuse to save my pennies and go shopping at Rivbike.com
   again.

   On Feb 22, 9:39 am, Chris cch...@gmail.com wrote:

Hey Brad,

I'll make sure to say hi next time I run into you and your bike.

Do you lock your bike outside pretty often?  How's your experience
  been?
 Any tips you can dispense?  I've equipped my Sam with Pitlock on both
wheels and seatpost but have yet left it outside.  It'd be really nice
  to
run errands on the bike, but I'm bit worried...

Chris

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[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Newbie Qs

2012-02-24 Thread Matthew J
Keep in mind Noodles are designed with relatively high stem in mind.

I have Albatross bars on the bike I ride most often, Jitensha bars on
another and what Riv used to sell as Nitto Dream bars on the third.
Mark's bars appear close, but the drop appears a bit more than on
mine.

If you want bars with generous flats but not as much drop as the
Noodles look at the Grand Bois Maes bars (manufactured by Nitto) that
Compass Cycle sells.

On Feb 24, 5:25 am, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Matt,

 Your description is perfect.

 Jay

 On Feb 24, 11:35 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:







  I've tried lots of different drop bars on various bikes and Noodles always
  feel the best to me. With both noodles and traditional drop bars-  when set
  up with the right reach-  I find that when you're riding along on the
  hoods, and decide you want to move to the drops or hooks, they feel
  excessively low and forward at first.    But if you give it five minutes in
  that position, your body gets used to it, and it becomes quite
  comfortable.

  After riding along settled in the hooks for a while, suddenly you have the
  opposite problem-   moving to the hoods makes you feel bolt-upright, and
  you feel momentarily as though your bars are too high.     But give it five
  minutes

  I guess the hard part is finding the right reach, where the tops/hoods and
  the hooks feel right for their purpose.    But as drop bars go, Noodles
  have the best proportions IMHO.

  -Matt

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[RBW] Re: recent Atlantis changes

2012-02-24 Thread C.J. Filip
When trying to judge the approximate age of an Atlantis my eyes go
straight to the lugs adorning the head tube.  There seem to be at
least three different lug styles used in production models.  The fork
lugs and braze-on additions seem to have been changed at a different
pace than the main lug set.

As my RR collection gets more complete, I'd like to make a timeline.
This will show and prove absolutely nothing but hopefully will be
appreciated by Atlantis fan-boys and girls.

To add and perhaps vindicate those responsible for the now several
batches of Atlanti, perhaps Grant or whoever just got bored with the
lug style at the time and had it changed (I would).  Perhaps a run of
a batch lugs was discontinued.  The Atlantis is the longest running
model after all.  Do other models show lug differences over time?  The
AHH is getting to be a mature model in the line-up and if any of my/
our theories are true a difference in lug style ought to show up
eventually.

On Feb 23, 5:54 pm, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used to think the lack of consistency along models years was frustrating, 
 but now I think it's sort of charming. The variation over time reminds me 
 that real people are responsible for Rivs, not robots.
 However, chain stays that are are so long that a standard chain won't wrap a 
 48/32 ( or whatever) is problematic! I guess the super long-n-low Rosco will 
 be a single speed, or you'll just buy 2 chains?

 Pete

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Re: [RBW] Uber-Tall Cockpit Dilemma

2012-02-24 Thread Matthew Hoult
You're welcome. Glad to be of help.

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[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Newbie Qs

2012-02-24 Thread BykMor
Smitty,

Lots of good insight here. I always try to encourage people to have their 
drop bars set up such that they can use all of the positions. It saddens me 
to hear people say they never use the drops, or tops, or... those variable 
positions are the advantage of drop bars. 

48cm is a W I D E Noodle (as Patrick mentioned). Is that the correct size 
for you? That can dramatically affect the feel while in the drops.

Stem height is also an important variable (as mentioned by Michael). Keep 
in mind that as you raise the stem, you're bringing the bars closer. Were 
you riding with the 9cm stem in a high position. That might move your 
T(op)-H(ood)-D(drop) positions to casual-great-aggressive.

Hopefully you can find the perfect setup. 

BykMor

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[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Newbie Qs

2012-02-24 Thread Jeremy Till
The only thing I would add to all of this is be mindful not only of bar 
position but also seat height and setback.  After years of playing around 
with different drop bars, bar heights, stem lengths, top tube lengths, etc, 
I've recently started paying more attention to saddle position.  It's true 
that drop bars will pull your center of gravity forward compared to upright 
bars, but you can compensate for this by moving your saddle back some; I've 
found doing so allows me to still ride light on the hands even though I'm 
more stretched out.  Once I discovered this, variances in bar/stem reach, 
height, top tube length etc. seem to make less of a difference for overall 
comfort. 

This is especially an issue for me since I have long legs (i.e. femurs) and 
long feet (size 50 european)...plus I'm not all that skinnyso I really 
need to get way back there in order not to be riding on my arms.  In fact, 
I've gone to a saddle most/all of the way back on a Nitto Wayback (S-84) 
post to generate a truly Lemond-esque riding position on my road bike, 
which has a 72-72.5 degree seat tube angle, depending on the position of 
the wheel in the dropouts.

If you're interested, I'd recommend reading the older article by Keith 
Bontrager--The Myth of KOPS--that's posted on Sheldon's site.  In my 
mind, it's got some really sound reasoning about the relationship between 
center of gravity and pedaling position.

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[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Newbie Qs

2012-02-24 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Never really heard or found that the Noodles/Soba were designed for higher 
position.  They will definitely work higher, but I think that has more to 
do with the design of the bend and the sweep on the flats.  I've always run 
bars a bit lower than the saddle, and the Noodle was the most costly bar I 
ever bought - specifically because it ruined me for any other drop 
handlebar.   Ended up switching over all my bicycles to the Noodle/Soba. 

To Smitty's original observation, I'd tend to favor the shorter stem.  My 
personal bias is to use the tops as a place of easy comfort - so a couple 
cm's closer would let me relax my elbows just a little bit more when 
rolling along.  You can always reach onto the hoods if you need to stretch 
out. To my great surpise, I ended up tweaking my Hilsen fit with a shorter 
stem - and it was only a 10 mm difference with the QB.  

Hope that helps,

- Jim

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[RBW] Re: recent Atlantis changes

2012-02-24 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
A number of variants here - http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/

and quite a few in the queue.  

As I get things fired back up in the Galleries, if anyone has specific 
model year changes they are aware of, please let me know and I'll be happy 
to help document the differences.

- Jim 

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[RBW] Re: recent Atlantis changes

2012-02-24 Thread dougP
Do lug molds wear out?  If they need to be changed anyway, maybe
different lug styles happen then.  When you think about it, lugs have
an element of whimsy anyway  may reflect the mood of the designer.

Of course, you can always check the serial number on the BB shell.  It
won't tell you the year delivered but there's a running number
system.

60 mm?  You realize that voids the warranty :).  I've stuffed a 50
onto the back  it looks pretty full.

dougP

On Feb 24, 9:28 am, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 A number of variants here -http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/

 and quite a few in the queue.

 As I get things fired back up in the Galleries, if anyone has specific
 model year changes they are aware of, please let me know and I'll be happy
 to help document the differences.

 - Jim

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[RBW] Re: Chilly Hilly 2012?

2012-02-24 Thread Rob
Not me this year. Other obligations on Sunday. :(

Have fun! 

Rob


On Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:15:59 PM UTC-8, awilliams53 wrote:

 Any Rivendellians considering the Chilly Hilly this Sunday? 

 I'm in, and hope to be on the 8:45 a.m. boat. 

 Andy

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Re: [RBW] Re: Drop Bar Newbie Qs

2012-02-24 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The Maeses are beautiful (I have the Parallels on my 2 Rivs) and they are
nicer in finish than even the Noodles; but they come only in narrow widths;
I think 41 at the hoods is the widest (they do flare a bit).

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 5:51 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Keep in mind Noodles are designed with relatively high stem in mind.

 I have Albatross bars on the bike I ride most often, Jitensha bars on
 another and what Riv used to sell as Nitto Dream bars on the third.
 Mark's bars appear close, but the drop appears a bit more than on
 mine.

 If you want bars with generous flats but not as much drop as the
 Noodles look at the Grand Bois Maes bars (manufactured by Nitto) that
 Compass Cycle sells.

 On Feb 24, 5:25 am, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.com wrote:
  Matt,
 
  Your description is perfect.
 
  Jay
 
  On Feb 24, 11:35 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   I've tried lots of different drop bars on various bikes and Noodles
 always
   feel the best to me. With both noodles and traditional drop bars-
  when set
   up with the right reach-  I find that when you're riding along on the
   hoods, and decide you want to move to the drops or hooks, they feel
   excessively low and forward at first.But if you give it five
 minutes in
   that position, your body gets used to it, and it becomes quite
   comfortable.
 
   After riding along settled in the hooks for a while, suddenly you have
 the
   opposite problem-   moving to the hoods makes you feel bolt-upright,
 and
   you feel momentarily as though your bars are too high. But give it
 five
   minutes
 
   I guess the hard part is finding the right reach, where the tops/hoods
 and
   the hooks feel right for their purpose.But as drop bars go, Noodles
   have the best proportions IMHO.
 
   -Matt

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Re: [RBW] Re: Drop Bar Newbie Qs

2012-02-24 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Once again, start with saddle position. Jeremy is right in that your bar
position and type will affect your saddle, but mostly for tilt -- I expect
that sit up and beg positions require even more saddle setback, if anything
-- look at the st angles on English and Dutch utility bikes. See Peter Jon
White for fitting tips, starting with saddle position. It's the key!

A correct saddle lets you bend forward easily with little weight on your
arms and hands resting lightly on the bar whether on flats, ramps, hoods or
hooks.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote:

 The only thing I would add to all of this is be mindful not only of bar
 position but also seat height and setback.  After years of playing around
 with different drop bars, bar heights, stem lengths, top tube lengths, etc,
 I've recently started paying more attention to saddle position.  It's true
 that drop bars will pull your center of gravity forward compared to upright
 bars, but you can compensate for this by moving your saddle back some; I've
 found doing so allows me to still ride light on the hands even though I'm
 more stretched out.  Once I discovered this, variances in bar/stem reach,
 height, top tube length etc. seem to make less of a difference for overall
 comfort.

 This is especially an issue for me since I have long legs (i.e. femurs)
 and long feet (size 50 european)...plus I'm not all that skinnyso I
 really need to get way back there in order not to be riding on my arms.  In
 fact, I've gone to a saddle most/all of the way back on a Nitto Wayback
 (S-84) post to generate a truly Lemond-esque riding position on my road
 bike, which has a 72-72.5 degree seat tube angle, depending on the position
 of the wheel in the dropouts.

 If you're interested, I'd recommend reading the older article by Keith
 Bontrager--The Myth of KOPS--that's posted on Sheldon's site.  In my
 mind, it's got some really sound reasoning about the relationship between
 center of gravity and pedaling position.

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[RBW] Unique Hillborne for sale on the Bay

2012-02-24 Thread Peter M
Not related at all to seller, looks like an interesting conversion to
cantis, I would need a whole repaint because I am OCD, thank god it is
not my size.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Sam-Hillborne-60cm-frameset-/190645067524?pt=Road_Bikeshash=item2c6354df04

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[RBW] Re: Unique Hillborne for sale on the Bay

2012-02-24 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
The 1st gen green Sams have canti posts.
I put v-brakes on mine.
Looks a bit odd but works great.

Jay

On Feb 24, 8:42 pm, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not related at all to seller, looks like an interesting conversion to
 cantis, I would need a whole repaint because I am OCD, thank god it is
 not my size.

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Sam-Hillborne-60cm-frameset-/190645...

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant, in (or soon to be) in print.

2012-02-24 Thread Steven Frederick
I suspect Grant would modestly decline to pocket more than a token
amount for signed editions but if there was a, say $5 upcharge (or
what ever seems worthwhile) that was earmarked to go to one of Riv's
carefully chosen charities, I'd consider that an excellent investment.

steve

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 It would be really neat if RBW offered GP-autographed copies for a buck or
 two extra (assuming the publisher allows that sort of thing).  I'd gladly
 pay the upcharge and I'll even shellac my twine bookmark to go with it.  If
 I were to get a Kindle to use to read it I'm afraid that would be the
 slippery slope whereby I would sell my Sam Hillborne, my Saluki, and my
 beloved XO-3 to buy another modern plastic device like a Trekalized bike.
  Besides that, I wouldn't be able to write bullsh*t! on  the pages I don't
 like, although I seriously doubt I'd be inspired to do that.  Hey, even
 three bucks would be OK by me.

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[RBW] Re: Unique Hillborne for sale on the Bay

2012-02-24 Thread William
I've bought a couple parts from that seller on ebay.  That seller pushes 
out a TON of Rivendell and Riv-ish frames, parts, and accessories.  I can't 
tell if its a compulsive buyer who just turns things over really fast, or 
if he buys stuff on the cheap in this niche and resells it on ebay.  I've 
been pleased with the service from that seller, don't get me wrong.  It's 
just that I'd guess he's sold a dozen Rivendell framesets in the last year 
on ebay.  Where's he get them all?

On Friday, February 24, 2012 10:42:52 AM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:

 Not related at all to seller, looks like an interesting conversion to 
 cantis, I would need a whole repaint because I am OCD, thank god it is 
 not my size. 


 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Sam-Hillborne-60cm-frameset-/190645067524?pt=Road_Bikeshash=item2c6354df04


On Friday, February 24, 2012 10:42:52 AM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:

 Not related at all to seller, looks like an interesting conversion to 
 cantis, I would need a whole repaint because I am OCD, thank god it is 
 not my size. 


 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Sam-Hillborne-60cm-frameset-/190645067524?pt=Road_Bikeshash=item2c6354df04

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[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Newbie Qs

2012-02-24 Thread Minh
Given all of the input on this, i think the one thing you can take
away is that all handle bars are an acquired taste.  I have noodles on
my hillborne and love them, but then i have bikes with albas, dreams,
moustaches, etc, and all of the bars have been on various bikes.
THere are certain combinations of bike+bar that i just did not care
for and there are pairings that feel perfect, so i'd suggest you
follow the recommendations to experiment, but it could come to the
point that this bike and bar are just not to your style.

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[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Newbie Qs

2012-02-24 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
Glad to knw I'm not the only one still fiddling with saddle and
handlebar setups after all these years.

I'm used to shoving my Brooks all the way back, but I recently decided
that was too much with the slack seat tube and VO setback post on my
Sam.

I found that I'm happier with it pushed forward a cm or so. Helps with
reach to the bars too, although that's not why I did it. Still haven't
checked for KOPS.

The other saddle adjustment that's making me a bit nuts lately is
right/left orientation. Always seems to be just a little off one way
or the other. Maybe the B17 is too wide with Noodles at saddle height.

I'm sure I'll work it all out in another 10 years or so.

Jay


n Feb 24, 8:15 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Once again, start with saddle position. Jeremy is right in that your bar
 position and type will affect your saddle, but mostly for tilt -- I expect
 that sit up and beg positions require even more saddle setback, if anything
 -- look at the st angles on English and Dutch utility bikes. See Peter Jon
 White for fitting tips, starting with saddle position. It's the key!

 A correct saddle lets you bend forward easily with little weight on your
 arms and hands resting lightly on the bar whether on flats, ramps, hoods or
 hooks.









 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote:
  The only thing I would add to all of this is be mindful not only of bar
  position but also seat height and setback.  After years of playing around
  with different drop bars, bar heights, stem lengths, top tube lengths, etc,
  I've recently started paying more attention to saddle position.  It's true
  that drop bars will pull your center of gravity forward compared to upright
  bars, but you can compensate for this by moving your saddle back some; I've
  found doing so allows me to still ride light on the hands even though I'm
  more stretched out.  Once I discovered this, variances in bar/stem reach,
  height, top tube length etc. seem to make less of a difference for overall
  comfort.

  This is especially an issue for me since I have long legs (i.e. femurs)
  and long feet (size 50 european)...plus I'm not all that skinnyso I
  really need to get way back there in order not to be riding on my arms.  In
  fact, I've gone to a saddle most/all of the way back on a Nitto Wayback
  (S-84) post to generate a truly Lemond-esque riding position on my road
  bike, which has a 72-72.5 degree seat tube angle, depending on the position
  of the wheel in the dropouts.

  If you're interested, I'd recommend reading the older article by Keith
  Bontrager--The Myth of KOPS--that's posted on Sheldon's site.  In my
  mind, it's got some really sound reasoning about the relationship between
  center of gravity and pedaling position.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant, in (or soon to be) in print.

2012-02-24 Thread Eric Norris
FWIW, Powell's in Portland makes many signed copies of new books available in 
limited numbers, and doesn't (as I recall) charge any more for them than for 
unsigned books. It's a great way to kickstart sales.

--Eric N

On Feb 24, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I suspect Grant would modestly decline to pocket more than a token
 amount for signed editions but if there was a, say $5 upcharge (or
 what ever seems worthwhile) that was earmarked to go to one of Riv's
 carefully chosen charities, I'd consider that an excellent investment.
 
 steve
 
 On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Bill webe...@gmail.com wrote:
 It would be really neat if RBW offered GP-autographed copies for a buck or
 two extra (assuming the publisher allows that sort of thing).  I'd gladly
 pay the upcharge and I'll even shellac my twine bookmark to go with it.  If
 I were to get a Kindle to use to read it I'm afraid that would be the
 slippery slope whereby I would sell my Sam Hillborne, my Saluki, and my
 beloved XO-3 to buy another modern plastic device like a Trekalized bike.
  Besides that, I wouldn't be able to write bullsh*t! on  the pages I don't
 like, although I seriously doubt I'd be inspired to do that.  Hey, even
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[RBW] Re: Unique Hillborne for sale on the Bay

2012-02-24 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
There's nothing odd-looking about v-brakes to anyone who has been around 
mountain bikes in the past 15-20 years (but before everything had discs). 
I've never understood the claim that cantilevers have superior aesthetics, 
especially since (IMO) they work worse and are fiddly to set up and keep 
adjusted.

On Friday, February 24, 2012 12:59:38 PM UTC-6, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:

 The 1st gen green Sams have canti posts. 
 I put v-brakes on mine. 
 Looks a bit odd but works great. 

 Jay 

 On Feb 24, 8:42 pm, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Not related at all to seller, looks like an interesting conversion to 
  cantis, I would need a whole repaint because I am OCD, thank god it is 
  not my size. 
  
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Sam-Hillborne-60cm-frameset-/190645...

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[RBW] Re: Chilly Hilly 2012?

2012-02-24 Thread Lawnsbyt
I'll be there -- 8:45 boat sounds good to me.  I usually wear my keen
sandals with wool socks even in the winter, but those are only good
down to about 44deg for an hour or less. I may have to wear the hiking
boots this year to avoid frosty toes.  If there's too much snow I'll
leave the ram at home and pull out the bridgestone mountain bike with
studded tires.

On Feb 23, 9:15 pm, awilliams53 awilliam...@gmail.com wrote:
 Any Rivendellians considering the Chilly Hilly this Sunday?

 I'm in, and hope to be on the 8:45 a.m. boat.

 Andy

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[RBW] Re: Unique Hillborne for sale on the Bay

2012-02-24 Thread William
I'd be extremely cautious buying a Riv with canti-posts put on after the 
fact.  One of the spectacular aspects of all the Rivendells I've built is 
that on all of them the brake post positioning has been spot on perfect. 
 I've built up enough bikes in my bike shop days to see how variable 
cantilever and v-brake performance is when the QC in post positioning is 
variable.  I think that's something that people overlook when they review 
the performance of a set of brakes.  The position of your posts locks into 
place a crucial part of the geometry of the system, and therefore 
determines a big part of how the brakes will perform.  You can just slap on 
posts within a few mm and make up for it with pad adjustment to get the 
brakes set up, but two identical bikes with the same tubing and the same 
brakes could have much different braking performance if the posts are a few 
mm lower on one bike than the other.  

On Friday, February 24, 2012 11:38:58 AM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:

 There's nothing odd-looking about v-brakes to anyone who has been around 
 mountain bikes in the past 15-20 years (but before everything had discs). 
 I've never understood the claim that cantilevers have superior aesthetics, 
 especially since (IMO) they work worse and are fiddly to set up and keep 
 adjusted.

 On Friday, February 24, 2012 12:59:38 PM UTC-6, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:

 The 1st gen green Sams have canti posts. 
 I put v-brakes on mine. 
 Looks a bit odd but works great. 

 Jay 

 On Feb 24, 8:42 pm, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Not related at all to seller, looks like an interesting conversion to 
  cantis, I would need a whole repaint because I am OCD, thank god it is 
  not my size. 
  
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Sam-Hillborne-60cm-frameset-/190645.
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[RBW] Re: recent Atlantis changes

2012-02-24 Thread Darin G.
My wife's new LHT has mounts on the fork crown, but on the side of the
crown.  We were wondering what they were for. I thought I saw photos
of some of the Hunqapillars with these mounts, as well, but have yet
to see a rack mounted in that fashion.

D.G.

On Feb 24, 9:45 am, EastBayGuy goodwin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am the Proud owner of one of these. I wanted to chime in and say that
 these can fit 60mm Big Apples with No fenders. It is tight but works
 superbly.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/54527498@N06/6218031752/in/photostream

 According to Keven the Fork crown threads are for mounting a rear rack on
 the front of the bike easily. Have not tried it yet.

 Dustin G

 Walnut Creek

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Re: [RBW] Re: Drop Bar Newbie Qs

2012-02-24 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Amen to this!

Try it out, change it, sell those that don't work, then buy replacements at
much more cost when you figure out that, after all, you *did* like that
combination -- or, at least, want to try it again. I've done this with
M-bars at least half a dozen times; ditto for many different kinds of
WTB-type flared drops. The same with saddles (Brookses of various kinds
cost me much $$ but failed to satisfy) and pedals [spent $$$ on clips 'n'
straps but eventually came back to SPDs {Shimano only, no damn' clones})
and Looks.])}]).

However, when all is said and done, me, I keep coming back to relatively
shallow drop, 3 cm below saddle, narrow bars on road and 2 higher,
slightly wider drops for my off road bikes.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:

 Given all of the input on this, i think the one thing you can take
 away is that all handle bars are an acquired taste.  I have noodles on
 my hillborne and love them, but then i have bikes with albas, dreams,
 moustaches, etc, and all of the bars have been on various bikes.
 THere are certain combinations of bike+bar that i just did not care
 for and there are pairings that feel perfect, so i'd suggest you
 follow the recommendations to experiment, but it could come to the
 point that this bike and bar are just not to your style.

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[RBW] Re: Unique Hillborne for sale on the Bay

2012-02-24 Thread newenglandbike
I have noticed that too. On Rivendells with sidepull brakes, it seems 
like the pads are always positioned near the end of the slot, since the 
brake is positioned for maximum tire clearance. On Rivs with cantis, 
the pads always seem to be best aligned to the rim when near the bottom of 
the slot, which maximizes leverage (and modulation, in my experience).
Its all about the details, and they really get it right.

-Matt



On Friday, February 24, 2012 3:02:37 PM UTC-5, William wrote:

 I'd be extremely cautious buying a Riv with canti-posts put on after the 
 fact.  One of the spectacular aspects of all the Rivendells I've built is 
 that on all of them the brake post positioning has been spot on perfect. 
  I've built up enough bikes in my bike shop days to see how variable 
 cantilever and v-brake performance is when the QC in post positioning is 
 variable.  I think that's something that people overlook when they review 
 the performance of a set of brakes.  The position of your posts locks into 
 place a crucial part of the geometry of the system, and therefore 
 determines a big part of how the brakes will perform.  You can just slap on 
 posts within a few mm and make up for it with pad adjustment to get the 
 brakes set up, but two identical bikes with the same tubing and the same 
 brakes could have much different braking performance if the posts are a few 
 mm lower on one bike than the other.  

 On Friday, February 24, 2012 11:38:58 AM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
 Cyclery wrote:

 There's nothing odd-looking about v-brakes to anyone who has been around 
 mountain bikes in the past 15-20 years (but before everything had discs). 
 I've never understood the claim that cantilevers have superior aesthetics, 
 especially since (IMO) they work worse and are fiddly to set up and keep 
 adjusted.

 On Friday, February 24, 2012 12:59:38 PM UTC-6, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:

 The 1st gen green Sams have canti posts. 
 I put v-brakes on mine. 
 Looks a bit odd but works great. 

 Jay 

 On Feb 24, 8:42 pm, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Not related at all to seller, looks like an interesting conversion to 
  cantis, I would need a whole repaint because I am OCD, thank god it is 
  not my size. 
  
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Sam-Hillborne-60cm-frameset-/190645.
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[RBW] refurbed Curt Goodrich

2012-02-24 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I tried to sell this bike awhile back, with no buyers at any price:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/6221225854

The paint was the weak point. Even an impolite thought would flake off the 
lovely candy-apple red. Anyway, as I couldn't get anybody to buy the bike, 
I decided to start over.

The inspiration was the brown Schwalbe 26x2.15 Big Apple tires that were 
introduced not long ago. And another brand of bikes we sell, Speedhound, 
has a color option called nut green, which is sort of a minty pistachio. 
Anyway, as my fantasy evolved, I thought black parts might look nice. I 
settled on a SRAM X.9 2x10 group with a 42/28 crank and a 11-36 10 sp 
cassette. Hubs are disc-compatible White Industries and Schmidt (disc 
compatible for maximum versatility in my current and future bike fleet). 
Anyway, thought this might be of interest here, even though it goes against 
the polished silver aesthetic preference of many RBW types. In real life, 
it's not quite as minty as it looks in the photos from my iPhone:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/6926890797

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Re: [RBW] refurbed Curt Goodrich

2012-02-24 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I wish I had the money! I think it's lovely. 559, right? Trade for a trike?

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
thill@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried to sell this bike awhile back, with no buyers at any price:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/6221225854

 The paint was the weak point. Even an impolite thought would flake off the
 lovely candy-apple red. Anyway, as I couldn't get anybody to buy the bike,
 I decided to start over.

 The inspiration was the brown Schwalbe 26x2.15 Big Apple tires that were
 introduced not long ago. And another brand of bikes we sell, Speedhound,
 has a color option called nut green, which is sort of a minty pistachio.
 Anyway, as my fantasy evolved, I thought black parts might look nice. I
 settled on a SRAM X.9 2x10 group with a 42/28 crank and a 11-36 10 sp
 cassette. Hubs are disc-compatible White Industries and Schmidt (disc
 compatible for maximum versatility in my current and future bike fleet).
 Anyway, thought this might be of interest here, even though it goes against
 the polished silver aesthetic preference of many RBW types. In real life,
 it's not quite as minty as it looks in the photos from my iPhone:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/6926890797

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Re: [RBW] refurbed Curt Goodrich

2012-02-24 Thread Carla Waugh
Beautiful bike.

Artist/Art Educator/Bicyclist

On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:12 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com 
wrote:

 I tried to sell this bike awhile back, with no buyers at any price:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/6221225854
 
 The paint was the weak point. Even an impolite thought would flake off the 
 lovely candy-apple red. Anyway, as I couldn't get anybody to buy the bike, I 
 decided to start over.
 
 The inspiration was the brown Schwalbe 26x2.15 Big Apple tires that were 
 introduced not long ago. And another brand of bikes we sell, Speedhound, has 
 a color option called nut green, which is sort of a minty pistachio. 
 Anyway, as my fantasy evolved, I thought black parts might look nice. I 
 settled on a SRAM X.9 2x10 group with a 42/28 crank and a 11-36 10 sp 
 cassette. Hubs are disc-compatible White Industries and Schmidt (disc 
 compatible for maximum versatility in my current and future bike fleet). 
 Anyway, thought this might be of interest here, even though it goes against 
 the polished silver aesthetic preference of many RBW types. In real life, 
 it's not quite as minty as it looks in the photos from my iPhone:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/6926890797
 
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Re: [RBW] refurbed Curt Goodrich

2012-02-24 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Patrick, your trike is tempting, but I'm not in the mood to sell my new 
bike!

On Friday, February 24, 2012 5:26:34 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I wish I had the money! I think it's lovely. 559, right? Trade for a trike?

 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
 thill@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried to sell this bike awhile back, with no buyers at any price:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/6221225854

 The paint was the weak point. Even an impolite thought would flake off 
 the lovely candy-apple red. Anyway, as I couldn't get anybody to buy the 
 bike, I decided to start over.

 The inspiration was the brown Schwalbe 26x2.15 Big Apple tires that were 
 introduced not long ago. And another brand of bikes we sell, Speedhound, 
 has a color option called nut green, which is sort of a minty pistachio. 
 Anyway, as my fantasy evolved, I thought black parts might look nice. I 
 settled on a SRAM X.9 2x10 group with a 42/28 crank and a 11-36 10 sp 
 cassette. Hubs are disc-compatible White Industries and Schmidt (disc 
 compatible for maximum versatility in my current and future bike fleet). 
 Anyway, thought this might be of interest here, even though it goes against 
 the polished silver aesthetic preference of many RBW types. In real life, 
 it's not quite as minty as it looks in the photos from my iPhone:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/6926890797

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[RBW] Re: recent Atlantis changes

2012-02-24 Thread EastBayGuy
Yep those be 60's. Its tight but works on the New Atlantis..

Dustin G

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[RBW] Grip King Supreme--Version 2.0 is about to be unveiled!

2012-02-24 Thread William
Hopefully you either ignored or have long forgotten my youtube documenting 
a DIY modification for my Grip King pedals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo0YlOqqISs 

Well, based on that, and the fact that neither my Dad nor I am very 
efficient with our time, we collaborated to make Version 2.0.  And by 
collaborated, I mean I did a sketch and my Dad in his machine shop garage 
did all the work.  

The Grip King Supreme cage mod is a cage that you'll bolt into your Grip 
King Pedals, that will give your feet a lot better lateral support.  See 
the video to see what I mean.  The Version 2.0 ones are shaped a lot 
better, especially in the middle, there's a milled out relief that still 
allows the sole of your shoes to fully engage the nubs on the Grip King 
cages.  

My Dad is shipping me several sets, and I will be offering them to sell. 
 This is a free-time thing that my dad just did for fun.  If we were 
charging time and materials, we'd probably have to sell them for $250 a 
pair.  Seriously, you should see the press/bender tooling he built for this 
project.  Anyhow, I'm not going to just give them away, even though I'm 
giving them away.  I might give a set to Rivendell.  So I'll be asking $25 
shipped priority mail.  I will post copious pictures and maybe another 
youtube when they are actually in my hands.  

I think my Dad is sending me 7 pairs.  I'll keep one, and send one to 
Rivendell.  I will have 5 more sets available, and am enthusiastic about 
making a lot more since my dad worked so hard on the tooling.  Stay tuned.  

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[RBW] Trade? M324s for decent clips 'n' straps?

2012-02-24 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Black anodized, used, but still vg Shimano M324s to trade for a decent,
wide-ish platform, quill or rattrap pedal with decent, size Large clips
and, if I am lucky, decent straps. For my Worksman grocery trike. 15 mm
(Stronglight 99s).

Reply offlist.

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[RBW] Re: refurbed Curt Goodrich

2012-02-24 Thread William
I totally approve of black, in the right ensemble.  This one is ACES!

On Friday, February 24, 2012 3:12:43 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

 I tried to sell this bike awhile back, with no buyers at any price:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/6221225854

 The paint was the weak point. Even an impolite thought would flake off the 
 lovely candy-apple red. Anyway, as I couldn't get anybody to buy the bike, 
 I decided to start over.

 The inspiration was the brown Schwalbe 26x2.15 Big Apple tires that were 
 introduced not long ago. And another brand of bikes we sell, Speedhound, 
 has a color option called nut green, which is sort of a minty pistachio. 
 Anyway, as my fantasy evolved, I thought black parts might look nice. I 
 settled on a SRAM X.9 2x10 group with a 42/28 crank and a 11-36 10 sp 
 cassette. Hubs are disc-compatible White Industries and Schmidt (disc 
 compatible for maximum versatility in my current and future bike fleet). 
 Anyway, thought this might be of interest here, even though it goes against 
 the polished silver aesthetic preference of many RBW types. In real life, 
 it's not quite as minty as it looks in the photos from my iPhone:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/6926890797



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Re: [RBW] Grip King Supreme--Version 2.0 is about to be unveiled!

2012-02-24 Thread Carla Waugh
Great idea and very informative video. I'm interested when you decide to go in 
business.

Artist/Art Educator/Bicyclist

On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:42 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hopefully you either ignored or have long forgotten my youtube documenting a 
 DIY modification for my Grip King pedals
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo0YlOqqISs 
 
 Well, based on that, and the fact that neither my Dad nor I am very efficient 
 with our time, we collaborated to make Version 2.0.  And by collaborated, I 
 mean I did a sketch and my Dad in his machine shop garage did all the work.  
 
 The Grip King Supreme cage mod is a cage that you'll bolt into your Grip King 
 Pedals, that will give your feet a lot better lateral support.  See the video 
 to see what I mean.  The Version 2.0 ones are shaped a lot better, especially 
 in the middle, there's a milled out relief that still allows the sole of your 
 shoes to fully engage the nubs on the Grip King cages.  
 
 My Dad is shipping me several sets, and I will be offering them to sell.  
 This is a free-time thing that my dad just did for fun.  If we were charging 
 time and materials, we'd probably have to sell them for $250 a pair.  
 Seriously, you should see the press/bender tooling he built for this project. 
  Anyhow, I'm not going to just give them away, even though I'm giving them 
 away.  I might give a set to Rivendell.  So I'll be asking $25 shipped 
 priority mail.  I will post copious pictures and maybe another youtube when 
 they are actually in my hands.  
 
 I think my Dad is sending me 7 pairs.  I'll keep one, and send one to 
 Rivendell.  I will have 5 more sets available, and am enthusiastic about 
 making a lot more since my dad worked so hard on the tooling.  Stay tuned. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: refurbed Curt Goodrich

2012-02-24 Thread cyclotourist
It's a cool bike in either color scheme, but those tires are awesome!

On 2/24/12, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 I totally approve of black, in the right ensemble.  This one is ACES!

 On Friday, February 24, 2012 3:12:43 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
 wrote:

 I tried to sell this bike awhile back, with no buyers at any price:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/6221225854

 The paint was the weak point. Even an impolite thought would flake off the

 lovely candy-apple red. Anyway, as I couldn't get anybody to buy the bike,

 I decided to start over.

 The inspiration was the brown Schwalbe 26x2.15 Big Apple tires that were
 introduced not long ago. And another brand of bikes we sell, Speedhound,
 has a color option called nut green, which is sort of a minty pistachio.

 Anyway, as my fantasy evolved, I thought black parts might look nice. I
 settled on a SRAM X.9 2x10 group with a 42/28 crank and a 11-36 10 sp
 cassette. Hubs are disc-compatible White Industries and Schmidt (disc
 compatible for maximum versatility in my current and future bike fleet).
 Anyway, thought this might be of interest here, even though it goes
 against
 the polished silver aesthetic preference of many RBW types. In real life,
 it's not quite as minty as it looks in the photos from my iPhone:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/6926890797



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[RBW] Re: Grip King Supreme--Version 2.0 is about to be unveiled!

2012-02-24 Thread Alex Moll

That's a really nice mod, and your price is more than fair. Good work.

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Re: [RBW] Re: refurbed Curt Goodrich

2012-02-24 Thread Brian Hanson
Dig it, Jim - that's a keeper!

Brian
Seattle, WA

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:55 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 It's a cool bike in either color scheme, but those tires are awesome!

 On 2/24/12, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
  I totally approve of black, in the right ensemble.  This one is ACES!
 
  On Friday, February 24, 2012 3:12:43 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha
 Cyclery
  wrote:
 
  I tried to sell this bike awhile back, with no buyers at any price:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/6221225854
 
  The paint was the weak point. Even an impolite thought would flake off
 the
 
  lovely candy-apple red. Anyway, as I couldn't get anybody to buy the
 bike,
 
  I decided to start over.
 
  The inspiration was the brown Schwalbe 26x2.15 Big Apple tires that were
  introduced not long ago. And another brand of bikes we sell, Speedhound,
  has a color option called nut green, which is sort of a minty
 pistachio.
 
  Anyway, as my fantasy evolved, I thought black parts might look nice. I
  settled on a SRAM X.9 2x10 group with a 42/28 crank and a 11-36 10 sp
  cassette. Hubs are disc-compatible White Industries and Schmidt (disc
  compatible for maximum versatility in my current and future bike fleet).
  Anyway, thought this might be of interest here, even though it goes
  against
  the polished silver aesthetic preference of many RBW types. In real
 life,
  it's not quite as minty as it looks in the photos from my iPhone:
 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/6926890797
 
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: refurbed Curt Goodrich

2012-02-24 Thread Forrest
Yeah, nice!


On Friday, February 24, 2012 7:27:56 PM UTC-6, stonehog wrote:

 Dig it, Jim - that's a keeper!

 Brian 
 Seattle, WA

 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:55 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 It's a cool bike in either color scheme, but those tires are awesome!

 On 2/24/12, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
  I totally approve of black, in the right ensemble.  This one is ACES!
 
  On Friday, February 24, 2012 3:12:43 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
 Cyclery
  wrote:
 
  I tried to sell this bike awhile back, with no buyers at any price:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/6221225854
 
  The paint was the weak point. Even an impolite thought would flake off 
 the
 
  lovely candy-apple red. Anyway, as I couldn't get anybody to buy the 
 bike,
 
  I decided to start over.
 
  The inspiration was the brown Schwalbe 26x2.15 Big Apple tires that 
 were
  introduced not long ago. And another brand of bikes we sell, 
 Speedhound,
  has a color option called nut green, which is sort of a minty 
 pistachio.
 
  Anyway, as my fantasy evolved, I thought black parts might look nice. I
  settled on a SRAM X.9 2x10 group with a 42/28 crank and a 11-36 10 sp
  cassette. Hubs are disc-compatible White Industries and Schmidt (disc
  compatible for maximum versatility in my current and future bike 
 fleet).
  Anyway, thought this might be of interest here, even though it goes
  against
  the polished silver aesthetic preference of many RBW types. In real 
 life,
  it's not quite as minty as it looks in the photos from my iPhone:
 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/6926890797
 
 
 
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[RBW] Re: refurbed Curt Goodrich

2012-02-24 Thread Tom M
Sweet ride. What size is it?

On Friday, February 24, 2012 6:12:43 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

 I tried to sell this bike awhile back, with no buyers at any price:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/6221225854

 The paint was the weak point. Even an impolite thought would flake off the 
 lovely candy-apple red. Anyway, as I couldn't get anybody to buy the bike, 
 I decided to start over.

 The inspiration was the brown Schwalbe 26x2.15 Big Apple tires that were 
 introduced not long ago. And another brand of bikes we sell, Speedhound, 
 has a color option called nut green, which is sort of a minty pistachio. 
 Anyway, as my fantasy evolved, I thought black parts might look nice. I 
 settled on a SRAM X.9 2x10 group with a 42/28 crank and a 11-36 10 sp 
 cassette. Hubs are disc-compatible White Industries and Schmidt (disc 
 compatible for maximum versatility in my current and future bike fleet). 
 Anyway, thought this might be of interest here, even though it goes against 
 the polished silver aesthetic preference of many RBW types. In real life, 
 it's not quite as minty as it looks in the photos from my iPhone:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/6926890797



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[RBW] Re: Unique Hillborne for sale on the Bay

2012-02-24 Thread benzzoy
Are the frames he sold all the same general size?  That can give us a
clue as to whether he's an impulsive buyer or semi-pro eBayer, or
maybe it's a combo, since you can't have a bunch of this kind of stuff
without knowing what they are, and if you know what they are, you most
likely will love it. :)


On Feb 24, 11:18 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've bought a couple parts from that seller on ebay.  That seller pushes
 out a TON of Rivendell and Riv-ish frames, parts, and accessories.  I can't
 tell if its a compulsive buyer who just turns things over really fast, or
 if he buys stuff on the cheap in this niche and resells it on ebay.  I've
 been pleased with the service from that seller, don't get me wrong.  It's
 just that I'd guess he's sold a dozen Rivendell framesets in the last year
 on ebay.  Where's he get them all?







 On Friday, February 24, 2012 10:42:52 AM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:

  Not related at all to seller, looks like an interesting conversion to
  cantis, I would need a whole repaint because I am OCD, thank god it is
  not my size.

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Sam-Hillborne-60cm-frameset-/190645...
 On Friday, February 24, 2012 10:42:52 AM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:

  Not related at all to seller, looks like an interesting conversion to
  cantis, I would need a whole repaint because I am OCD, thank god it is
  not my size.

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Sam-Hillborne-60cm-frameset-/190645...

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[RBW] Re: Unique Hillborne for sale on the Bay

2012-02-24 Thread RayO
I feel just the opposite.

On Feb 24, 11:38 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thill@gmail.com wrote:
 There's nothing odd-looking about v-brakes to anyone who has been around
 mountain bikes in the past 15-20 years (but before everything had discs).
 I've never understood the claim that cantilevers have superior aesthetics,
 especially since (IMO) they work worse and are fiddly to set up and keep
 adjusted.

 On Friday, February 24, 2012 12:59:38 PM UTC-6, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:





  The 1st gen green Sams have canti posts.
  I put v-brakes on mine.
  Looks a bit odd but works great.

  Jay

  On Feb 24, 8:42 pm, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
   Not related at all to seller, looks like an interesting conversion to
   cantis, I would need a whole repaint because I am OCD, thank god it is
   not my size.

  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Sam-Hillborne-60cm-frameset-/190645...- 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Unique Hillborne for sale on the Bay

2012-02-24 Thread PATRICK MOORE
My less-than-$0.02: V brakes look perfectly at home on a Sam HIll, even a
TTT Sam HIll. No feeling involved, just aesthetic judgment.

OTOH, the IRCs that Riv had set up on the floor model 56 STT Sam HIll I
bought a couple of years ago (and rather quickly sold) worked as well as
any V brake as to pure stopping power to hand effort, and modulated better.
And this judgment from someone who has come to hate, I say HATE, setting up
cantis, at least anything dating from DC 986s, and including gawdawful
Mafacs. The IRCs are the cat's meow, but Vs are easier.

Me, I'd look seriously at a Bomb or Atlantis if they took disks.



On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:28 PM, RayO lochm...@msn.com wrote:

 I feel just the opposite.

 On Feb 24, 11:38 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
 thill@gmail.com wrote:
  There's nothing odd-looking about v-brakes to anyone who has been around
  mountain bikes in the past 15-20 years (but before everything had discs).
  I've never understood the claim that cantilevers have superior
 aesthetics,
  especially since (IMO) they work worse and are fiddly to set up and keep
  adjusted.
 
  On Friday, February 24, 2012 12:59:38 PM UTC-6, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
   The 1st gen green Sams have canti posts.
   I put v-brakes on mine.
   Looks a bit odd but works great.
 
   Jay
 
   On Feb 24, 8:42 pm, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
Not related at all to seller, looks like an interesting conversion to
cantis, I would need a whole repaint because I am OCD, thank god it
 is
not my size.
 
   
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Sam-Hillborne-60cm-frameset-/190645...-Hide 
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[RBW] Re: refurbed Curt Goodrich

2012-02-24 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
58 cm

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[RBW] FS: Spring Cleaning, Small Parts

2012-02-24 Thread Minh
*Hi all, just starting the process of culling the closet, first step small 
parts, some rivish stuff, some just beater stuff.  drop me a line if you’re 
interested in anything and we can try and work it out.  I’m in the 
Washington DC area. 

All prices below are paypal, and shipping is included.  if you buy more 
then one item then i will combine shipping as best as i can, there is a 
photoset here - http://flic.kr/s/aHsjynTADG

1 Pair Nashbar Sidepulls, short reach (39mm-49mm), silver colored with 
minimal miles (less then 300) plenty of life left in the pads.  $25

1 pair Nashbar Canti-brakes, black, very similiar to the Tektro Oryx brake 
less then 100 miles, these use the link-wire type straddle cable. $20

Nitto S-65 Seatpost, 27.2, marks around the insertion line but otherwise 
good condition, see picture.  $55

Tektro CR720 - light surface rust on some of the bolts and some scratches 
on the brakes but work fine, just took this off my quickbeam.  includes the 
fancy straddle carrier (also with a little bit of rust) pads are 
dual-compound koolstops with about 50% left.  $15

Tektro Oryx (silver) - light surface rust on some of the bolts and some 
scratches on the brakes but work fine, just took this off my quickbeam. 
 uses the z-wire, pads are nearly gone, i would suggest you replace them 
right away. $10

Shimano LX V-Brake, pads are about 50% and are koolstop black. $15 

Minoura Kickstand - the old style that bolts onto the rear of the bike near 
the dropouts, $20

Axciom Rear Rack - i believe this is the Phoenix DLX model, which includes 
the ‘bamboo’ top plate.  i had to cut the stays because they were too long, 
this came off a ~58cm 700cc bike so if you’re in that range you’ll be ok. 
 if you need p-clamps please let me know and i can include a pair.  just so 
you know the tubing on this rack is a little thick so some pannier hooks 
will not hook on, the gap in the top-plate is also narrow, so your pannier 
hooks will need to be pretty close together.  see the picture from above. 
 $40 

Huret Stem mount friction shifters, NOS with cables and housing, $15

Cork Grips (the old style, smooth ones) $10

Kalloy Uno Seatpost, 27.2 tons of scratches and insertion marks.  $5 (item 
is free this is to cover shipping)

Zefal frame pump, my bikes are in the 56-58 size range, so i think this is 
a medium pump, $15

Suntour Lite front derailleur, this is from the RBW batch a long time ago, 
it’s for oversized seat-tubes, hence the bar tape in the picture, you can 
use other forms of shimmage (like a rubber tube), i’ve used a shimmed FD on 
another bike for 10 years no problem.  This one was mounted and used for 
only a few weeks so very light use.  $12

Shimano Rear Derailleur, like this one here 
http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=b16dcdc3-05a0-4e48-a977-eb02cebd41e6
max cog is 28t, good condition.  $20

Sakae Crankset, quite a bit of pitting, i started to do a sand and polish 
but ran out of bikes to mount this to, rings are in good shape 52/42 teeth. 
$15. 

Wheelset,  Quickbeam Standard Wheelset, Suzue quick-release cartridge 
bearing hubs.  The rear hub is double sided, threaded for freewheels on 
both side, quick-release front and back.  Araya Rims.  I bought the 
quickbeam second hand so not sure about the age of these wheels, it’s an 
early green quickbeam, they look to be in good shape.   $120 for the set, 
I’d like to sell this locally as the shipping will be high relative to the 
value of the wheels, but make me an offer, will split too.*

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[RBW] Re: refurbed Curt Goodrich

2012-02-24 Thread dougP
The matching fenders really complete the look, and the black downplays
the components.  It seems that fenders would get beaten up, what kind
are they and what type of paint did you use?

dougP

On Feb 24, 3:12 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
wrote:
 I tried to sell this bike awhile back, with no buyers at any 
 price:http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/6221225854

 The paint was the weak point. Even an impolite thought would flake off the
 lovely candy-apple red. Anyway, as I couldn't get anybody to buy the bike,
 I decided to start over.

 The inspiration was the brown Schwalbe 26x2.15 Big Apple tires that were
 introduced not long ago. And another brand of bikes we sell, Speedhound,
 has a color option called nut green, which is sort of a minty pistachio.
 Anyway, as my fantasy evolved, I thought black parts might look nice. I
 settled on a SRAM X.9 2x10 group with a 42/28 crank and a 11-36 10 sp
 cassette. Hubs are disc-compatible White Industries and Schmidt (disc
 compatible for maximum versatility in my current and future bike fleet).
 Anyway, thought this might be of interest here, even though it goes against
 the polished silver aesthetic preference of many RBW types. In real life,
 it's not quite as minty as it looks in the photos from my iPhone:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/6926890797

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[RBW] Just another amazing day on a bike.

2012-02-24 Thread Manuel Acosta
Great couple of days of Winter in California. Days like these you
don't need epic rides to fulfill your cycling needs just a couple of
friends and a little bit of dirt.

Some noted adventures.
Riding with a buddy of mine who hasn't ridden since his crash a year
ago along Redwood Rd. What better way of getting him back on his road
bike then waking him up early in morning for a  short and easy
ride.  He had fun.

Riding with my dad who's main goal is trying to lose weight and start
eating right because the doctor told him he needs too. Being a man of
action my dad does things or he doesn't. But when he does things he
goes all out, no excuses. He bought a indoor stationary bike, portion
out his meals and lost 7 pounds. Out of the blue, ( like typical dad)
tells me to get the bikes and to go ride  with him. Great father and
son bonding. We didn't really talk but we didn't have too. He had fun.

Ride with my buddy Will to RivHQ to grab some wool shirts for me and
Miss'(not Will). Like typical Rivendell fashion we always add an hour
to the ride when Rivendell is a stop because we find ourselves doing
or talking about random things with Grant and crew. Today's Rivendell
Randomness:
- Doing pull-ups on Rivendell's new Pull up bar. Ask Grant how many
different ways you can do a pull up.
- Playing baseball with some old leather catcher mitt Grant let us
borrow.
- Talking to new boxer ( bicycle boxer) Eliazbeth aka E aka  Beth
aka Eliy. Who turns out to have be a really cool and easy person to
talk too. I met her previously at the garage sale but didn't know how
to start a conversation. We find out that she grew up near were we
grew up. She's fun.

Fun times all around.

Pictures Proved it happened:
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjyVzg2Z

-Manny  I'm kind of a big deal on this internet forum** Acosta

** this is a joke by the way

P.S. I met some of the Legendary Team 7-11 cycling crew at their book
signing in Los Altos.

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