[RBW] Re: Switching to Moustachios from drops?!?!
In my experience Moustache Bars take a shorter stem when switching from drops. At 7cm, you don't have much more shortening you can do. Also, with the same stem you won't be more upright than you were on the tops of dropbars. The Moustache has a drop from the stem. In your case it's free to try, so have at it, but you might want to consider something like an Albatross or North Road bar. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:58:14 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: PS - will the staches help me sit more upright, or not? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ifxToHPs9ksJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Velocity quality
I've had the opposite experience with synergies and now dyad rims.I put at least 15K on a set of synergies in all seasons including lots fully loaded, and the very snowy and salty new england winter of 2010/11, and only had to replace them because the sidewalls/braking surface had worn way too thin for comfort.Mavic rims seemed to last well too, but I would reckon maybe you have hit a bad batch or something. On Thursday, December 6, 2012 2:19:50 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote: Ok so I've had the Homer for 2 years and am about to get my third rear wheel. Here's my story: Peter White built the bike and wheels. Velocity Synergy with XT hubs and 36 spokes.I hit a pothole pretty good fairly early in the bikes life. LBS said rim couldn't be tried so they built up another Synergy with my hub. Fast forward to now. That wheel has maybe 5-7k miles on it and has stress cracks all over it. They started around the spokes and spread to the sides. So time for another. I'm working in CT now and found a LBS that knows what a Riv is. Owner builds the wheels. Well, he says that Synergy rims (and Velocity in general) are just not that good. I've heard the same thing out of a couple of other people too, and they k ow more about wheels than me. Thing is, I can't imagine why Riv and Peter would so highly recommend them if they're poor quality. But my experiences are making me wonder, what with 2 wheels in around 10k miles. LBS guy is recommending a Mavic, I think one of the CXP styles saying they're much stronger. What should I do??? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GiSYmV0ViwUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Road salt and Rivendells
I do this, and fenders and front mudflap definitely do the job of protecting your bike's jewels. I have the regular SKS fenders, but the longboards are no doubt far better for keeping the salt away. Also, frame-saver is pretty effective. I wish they didn't salt the roads so much around here, but not for the bike's sake; it's just... they way, way over do it with the salt trucks. The roads and bordering soil are rendered grainy white at the slightest hint of precipitation. On Thursday, December 6, 2012 1:02:42 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote: I am going to try commuting thru the winter. Not in snow/slush. Just on the dry days. In the winter, there is a dusting of salt on the road after the snow melts away and the roads dry up around here. *Will riding on dry roads with salt residue be bad for the frame/components?* I am hoping the longboards will minimize probs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EAo_mFYZ4OEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Frame Raffle
This is such a great idea! I hope it generates tons of sales so riv can keep bringing out the coolest ideas on wheels (and bags), and needless to say, whoever wins this is winning BIG time. The mountain mixte and mountain fixed gear ideas sound cool. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 4:06:42 PM UTC-5, Dave Rivbike wrote: I just posted on the blug but thought to repost here. We're raffling off a custom frame to one lucky customer who places a $300+ order during December. Info here: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/37206352818/rivendell-raffle Happy Holidays -Dave@riv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UETmHiFEsRYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Velocity quality
These wheels take a lot of punishment and wear over time. Riding style, rider weight and terrain have to be taken into consideration. Even though I have learned to ride with a certain amount of finesse I still consider myself to be a clyde weighing in the 190-240 lb range throughout my cycling career. I have gone through many wheels in many ways including the dreaded stress cracks around the spoke holes. I've done this to Mavics and Velocities. I have never had a manufacturer not replace the rim under warranty no matter how long I had been riding it. Send it back to the builder. Riv (Rich) are/is especially good about this type of customer service. I've purchased one wheel from Peter White. A front dyno wheel. Fronts generally don't have stress problems like these. So I never needed to approach him under such circumstances. He might charge you for the rebuild if the wheel is more than a year old but I can't imagine Velocity not giving him a new rim. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/wjyXLheyh3sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Velocity quality
On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 23:28 -0800, Toshi Takeuchi wrote: There have been some bad batches of Velocity rims. I bet if you contacted Velocity, they would replace the rim free of charge, but you would have to build up the wheels. Velocity has not only replaced cracked rims free for me, they have also built the wheels. Labor, spokes and shipment both ways have also been free. Call or email them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Velocity quality
On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 23:19 -0800, Tim wrote: LBS guy is recommending a Mavic, I think one of the CXP styles saying they're much stronger. What should I do??? FWIW, I have had Mavic rims crack, too: MA40, back years ago, and fairly recently a couple of MA3s. However, unlike with the Velocity rims -- all of which have been replaced free by Velocity -- Mavic has never paid as much as one red cent towards replacement. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Velocity quality
Yeah, I never had to deal with Mavic directly so I shouldn't speak of them. When I had Mavic rim failures it was always the builder (usually Excel) taking care of me. In fact I've never had to deal with Velocity directly either. It's always been Rich built Velocity's for me and he's always kept me rolling. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/SNfJmUlzV4sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki
Sean, FWIW list member Hobie is selling a fine example of a 58cm Saluki, I'm pretty sure it's still available. I have personally ridden this bike. It's too small for me but its gorgeous. Last I checked he was looking to unload the complete bike (with fancy parts) for just north of what a new frame costs. It's worth a look if you are still interested. He's a New York resident also... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/jsvSr6JSt5YJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Velocity quality
Mavics are excellent, and if you look around you can still find NOS Rigida. I have a set of 30-y-o Rigidas on Zeus GS hubs that have probably 30K on them and have been trued twice in that time, and over a gillion potholes. The hubs are oxidized around the spokes, but the wheels are so strong it would be a waste to take them apart to polish the hubs. Replaced the bearing balls again last summer, and they're the best-rolling wheels I've ever seen. My buddy's Ultegra hubs don't roll with them. On Thursday, December 6, 2012 1:19:50 AM UTC-6, Tim wrote: Ok so I've had the Homer for 2 years and am about to get my third rear wheel. Here's my story: Peter White built the bike and wheels. Velocity Synergy with XT hubs and 36 spokes.I hit a pothole pretty good fairly early in the bikes life. LBS said rim couldn't be tried so they built up another Synergy with my hub. Fast forward to now. That wheel has maybe 5-7k miles on it and has stress cracks all over it. They started around the spokes and spread to the sides. So time for another. I'm working in CT now and found a LBS that knows what a Riv is. Owner builds the wheels. Well, he says that Synergy rims (and Velocity in general) are just not that good. I've heard the same thing out of a couple of other people too, and they k ow more about wheels than me. Thing is, I can't imagine why Riv and Peter would so highly recommend them if they're poor quality. But my experiences are making me wonder, what with 2 wheels in around 10k miles. LBS guy is recommending a Mavic, I think one of the CXP styles saying they're much stronger. What should I do??? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/u7ndXUtVuk0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki
Sounds like we have nearly the same PBH. I can straddle the 60cm Saluki in bare feet with Hetres, and not want/need to tip toe due to top tube clearance. Recommend going bigger. On Dec 5, 7:16 pm, SeanMac seanm...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for all of your help today. I spent the day on jury duty, so I am a bit slow in sending thanks. When I returned home I had my son help me to re-measure my PBH. We ended up taking several measurements, typically getting a PBH between 86 - 87. Based on Riv's chart, his seems to put me at a 56 Sam, a 58-60 Saluki (or Bleriot) and 58-61 Homer. I don't need a new bike any time soon, but it would be nice to take advantage of a deal. However, since a new bike is a bike purchase, I want to make the best decision possible - even if that means not buying anything. The problem, of course, is that one can never know for sure what deals will come by. However, since I live in Buffalo, it is pretty unlikely that I will be outdoors on a bike any time soon. I probably should hang tight and wait for a deal that I can't pass up. Sorry for thinking out loud. I do appreciate all or your help / advice. Someday I'll make up my mind! Sean On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:51:52 AM UTC-5, Frank wrote: I have a 62cm Saluki and a 63cm AHH and my PBH is 89.5. Mine are set up differently, but if I were to go down the like-to-like line on a per-component basis, they would be very similar. I love them both, ride them both almost equally, and I've done light touring on both. I've also ridden each of them loaded with 5 days worth of clothing and stuff to support an extended vacation / stay in PDX on the Seattle to Portland ride in years past. I didn't weigh them, but would guess that with two panniers and a Hoss pretty fully packed I probably had 45lbs. of jank plus 165lbs of me on the bike. Both bikes worked fine at 100m/d, though I'd say they were close to the limit. In any event, the Saluki is a great bike and would be well suited to the riding you describe, though so would the Sam. Can't see how you could go wrong either way. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 5:35:26 AM UTC-8, SeanMac wrote: I have noticed several Salukis for sale recently on ebay. I know that this bike was produced before the Bleriot, but I have had a somewhat difficult time finding information about it on the web. I am hoping that a list member or three might be able to shed some light on this bike for me. I'm in the market for a bike for longer rides and perhaps some short touring - Erie Canal, C O Trail, etc. I've had my eyes on a Sam for some time, but have not yet pulled the trigger (might on the all-blue Sam - what a deal). Would a Saluki be well-suited for this kind of riding or is it really designed as a country bike / credit card tourer / rambler / century ride bike? How would the Saluki compare to a Homer? I can't seem to find a chart that matches PBH to Saluki sizing. Should I simply use the general chart on the Riv site, matching the 650b section to my height to choose the correct Saluki? Thanks, Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Velocity quality
Velocity was having trouble keeping quality consistent in Australia but have since moved production to the United States. Believe the U.S. made versions will be hitting the stores next year. Apparently I have been real lucky as the three Velocity rim wheelsets I have, one made by Peter White, one Rich Lesnick and one by my LBS are exceptionally durable. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/1iPbgZKgFOUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Switching to Moustachios from drops?!?!
Not in my opinion. I did not care for 'stache bars at all. I use either alba's, or noodles with the interrupter brakes. I ride a lot in downtown traffic, and those bars provide the best positioning. I have one bike with the Jitensha flat bar that is good in traffic, too, but it has very limited hand placement options. From: Michael john11.2...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 9:58:18 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Switching to Moustachios from drops?!?! PS - will the staches help me sit more upright, or not? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vC8EZRcSfX8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank
Max -- congrats! First pair of Keos I've seen on this list beside mine! Nice bike, with very interesting setup. That's also the first Italian racing bike I've seen with 35 Kojaks! And: how do y'all keep your bikes so clean? That drivetrain looks as if it hasn't been ridden. On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:56 PM, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: I have the earlier version of this crankset, in 26-40. It's a terrific crank. Pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157629609638106/ Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AvIQcNOk-y0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Velocity quality
Not a jerk question but what is the lifespan of a set of rims, on average? On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 3:53 AM, Matt Beebe matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: I've had the opposite experience with synergies and now dyad rims.I put at least 15K on a set of synergies in all seasons including lots fully loaded, and the very snowy and salty new england winter of 2010/11, and only had to replace them because the sidewalls/braking surface had worn way too thin for comfort.Mavic rims seemed to last well too, but I would reckon maybe you have hit a bad batch or something. On Thursday, December 6, 2012 2:19:50 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote: Ok so I've had the Homer for 2 years and am about to get my third rear wheel. Here's my story: Peter White built the bike and wheels. Velocity Synergy with XT hubs and 36 spokes.I hit a pothole pretty good fairly early in the bikes life. LBS said rim couldn't be tried so they built up another Synergy with my hub. Fast forward to now. That wheel has maybe 5-7k miles on it and has stress cracks all over it. They started around the spokes and spread to the sides. So time for another. I'm working in CT now and found a LBS that knows what a Riv is. Owner builds the wheels. Well, he says that Synergy rims (and Velocity in general) are just not that good. I've heard the same thing out of a couple of other people too, and they k ow more about wheels than me. Thing is, I can't imagine why Riv and Peter would so highly recommend them if they're poor quality. But my experiences are making me wonder, what with 2 wheels in around 10k miles. LBS guy is recommending a Mavic, I think one of the CXP styles saying they're much stronger. What should I do??? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GiSYmV0ViwUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Road salt and Rivendells
The long boards will definitely reduce any problems, but, yes, the dry residue ends up on the bike like dust. In the winter here in Michigan, I simply wipe the frame more often. I leave a damp cloth in the garage and clean the bike more often. Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JzVBozZEAv0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank
that Della Santa was fairly new at the time the pics taken...simmichrome, rubbing alcohol, and bike lust ... but not always so spic and span: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157626493792020/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-DuSgIb6cGAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank
And Della Santa is American -- all the more interesting as that must be a custom -- club racer with room for 35s. On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 8:03 AM, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: that Della Santa was fairly new at the time the pics taken...simmichrome, rubbing alcohol, and bike lust ... but not always so spic and span: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157626493792020/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-DuSgIb6cGAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Velocity quality
I'm a metallurgist and licensed professional engineer. If you make something monolithic, it doesn't have a life span. If it's not monolithic, it fatigues at something below 10 million load cycles (if it exceeds 10 million load cycles, it's assumed to be monolithic). On a rolling wheel, cycles add up quickly. What is being called stress cracking is really fatigue, and it generally means there is a soft spot or hard spot, or mechanical divot the the point the crack starts. Rims can also deteriorate by weathering and then eventually stress crack, which is corrosion-assisted cracking. But if you do it right, there is no reason to have a life limit. My Rigida rims have 18 million cycles on them. On Thursday, December 6, 2012 1:19:50 AM UTC-6, Tim wrote: Ok so I've had the Homer for 2 years and am about to get my third rear wheel. Here's my story: Peter White built the bike and wheels. Velocity Synergy with XT hubs and 36 spokes.I hit a pothole pretty good fairly early in the bikes life. LBS said rim couldn't be tried so they built up another Synergy with my hub. Fast forward to now. That wheel has maybe 5-7k miles on it and has stress cracks all over it. They started around the spokes and spread to the sides. So time for another. I'm working in CT now and found a LBS that knows what a Riv is. Owner builds the wheels. Well, he says that Synergy rims (and Velocity in general) are just not that good. I've heard the same thing out of a couple of other people too, and they k ow more about wheels than me. Thing is, I can't imagine why Riv and Peter would so highly recommend them if they're poor quality. But my experiences are making me wonder, what with 2 wheels in around 10k miles. LBS guy is recommending a Mavic, I think one of the CXP styles saying they're much stronger. What should I do??? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8oXOcdAq-SUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Velocity quality
oops, didn't convert inches to feet - they have 200 million cycles on them On Thursday, December 6, 2012 9:11:51 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: I'm a metallurgist and licensed professional engineer. If you make something monolithic, it doesn't have a life span. If it's not monolithic, it fatigues at something below 10 million load cycles (if it exceeds 10 million load cycles, it's assumed to be monolithic). On a rolling wheel, cycles add up quickly. What is being called stress cracking is really fatigue, and it generally means there is a soft spot or hard spot, or mechanical divot the the point the crack starts. Rims can also deteriorate by weathering and then eventually stress crack, which is corrosion-assisted cracking. But if you do it right, there is no reason to have a life limit. My Rigida rims have 18 million cycles on them. On Thursday, December 6, 2012 1:19:50 AM UTC-6, Tim wrote: Ok so I've had the Homer for 2 years and am about to get my third rear wheel. Here's my story: Peter White built the bike and wheels. Velocity Synergy with XT hubs and 36 spokes.I hit a pothole pretty good fairly early in the bikes life. LBS said rim couldn't be tried so they built up another Synergy with my hub. Fast forward to now. That wheel has maybe 5-7k miles on it and has stress cracks all over it. They started around the spokes and spread to the sides. So time for another. I'm working in CT now and found a LBS that knows what a Riv is. Owner builds the wheels. Well, he says that Synergy rims (and Velocity in general) are just not that good. I've heard the same thing out of a couple of other people too, and they k ow more about wheels than me. Thing is, I can't imagine why Riv and Peter would so highly recommend them if they're poor quality. But my experiences are making me wonder, what with 2 wheels in around 10k miles. LBS guy is recommending a Mavic, I think one of the CXP styles saying they're much stronger. What should I do??? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lq8zYpOrVCcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Road salt and Rivendells
Boeshield. Wax your paint with a good carnuba wax or even better - Butcher's Bowling Alley Wax. Then Boeshield everything else,. Occasionally rinse the salt, wax again, boeshield again. For your rims, after you apply the boeshield, swipe the brake surfaces with denatured alcohol. I take very valuable fishing reels to the salt water, and am a metallurgist and corrosion engineer with a PE license. On Thursday, December 6, 2012 12:02:42 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: I am going to try commuting thru the winter. Not in snow/slush. Just on the dry days. In the winter, there is a dusting of salt on the road after the snow melts away and the roads dry up around here. *Will riding on dry roads with salt residue be bad for the frame/components?* I am hoping the longboards will minimize probs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/iAj9Q0DtXzAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Switching to Moustachios from drops?!?!
with a long quill (Technomic), my moustache bars are an inch higher than my saddle. With my prior drop bars, the top position was 2 inches below the saddle. My old guy cervical strain problem is long gone now. You will need a shorter stem (horizontal position) because the bars reach forward. I went from a 120mm down to a 70mm stem. Also moved my saddle forward about 25mm. Note that you may be able to achieve the same height with just the tall quill and your drop bars. But I do like the hand positions on the moustache bars better. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/AAPB210005.jpg On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 11:56:06 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Anyone made the switch? Seems like on every drop bar bike I dun rid, I just always feel too stretched out. Even with my 7cm shorty stem and flat ramps. Even knowing I have the correct frame sizes and have the bar above saddle height now. On the tops, its always perfect. Hoods - feel too stretched out. Hooks/drops - fuggettabowdit .5 mile at a time at best, and that takes discipline. I sit up at about 50 degrees when on the hoods. So I was thinking of slapping a used moustache I have on the bike and trying that. Maybe my 44 year old bones just don't like drops anymore. Maybe i am being too persnicketty and am looking for absolute comfort, when there is no such thang on a bike? Thoughts? Anyone made the switch? The good part is it'll cost me exactly 0$ and 0 cents to try it. I can use the tape/levers/shifters from my current setup on the staches. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lrUVImpf1DUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Velocity quality
sorry, got it right this time, there 21 million revolutions on my Rigida rims. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/at1RmxBwTisJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Velocity quality
TIm, I had a Velocity Razor rim crack at nearly every drive side spoke hole (rear wheel). It never occurred to me to contact them about it, so I rebuilt the rear wheel myself with a FiR rim. After the fact, I mentioned it on the phone to a guy there (don't remember why I even called) and he offered to rebuild the wheel with a new rim. Since I didn't have a hub to use at that point, I never followed up on it. I suspect if you call them, they will offer to rebuild your wheel with a new rim. No idea if it applies to you, but Velocity used to spec a fairly low maximum spoke tension and my wheel was definitely above it... Doug On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Tim tim.ki...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok so I've had the Homer for 2 years and am about to get my third rear wheel. Here's my story: Peter White built the bike and wheels. Velocity Synergy with XT hubs and 36 spokes.I hit a pothole pretty good fairly early in the bikes life. LBS said rim couldn't be tried so they built up another Synergy with my hub. Fast forward to now. That wheel has maybe 5-7k miles on it and has stress cracks all over it. They started around the spokes and spread to the sides. So time for another. I'm working in CT now and found a LBS that knows what a Riv is. Owner builds the wheels. Well, he says that Synergy rims (and Velocity in general) are just not that good. I've heard the same thing out of a couple of other people too, and they k ow more about wheels than me. Thing is, I can't imagine why Riv and Peter would so highly recommend them if they're poor quality. But my experiences are making me wonder, what with 2 wheels in around 10k miles. LBS guy is recommending a Mavic, I think one of the CXP styles saying they're much stronger. What should I do??? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Velocity quality
If you ride in the grime and rain, a common reality if you commute by bike, your brake pads will eventually eat through the rim sidewalls.Even if you only ride in dry conditions, dirt will get in there, between the pads and the rim, unless you are riding in a clean room. On Thursday, December 6, 2012 10:11:51 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: I'm a metallurgist and licensed professional engineer. If you make something monolithic, it doesn't have a life span. If it's not monolithic, it fatigues at something below 10 million load cycles (if it exceeds 10 million load cycles, it's assumed to be monolithic). On a rolling wheel, cycles add up quickly. What is being called stress cracking is really fatigue, and it generally means there is a soft spot or hard spot, or mechanical divot the the point the crack starts. Rims can also deteriorate by weathering and then eventually stress crack, which is corrosion-assisted cracking. But if you do it right, there is no reason to have a life limit. My Rigida rims have 18 million cycles on them. On Thursday, December 6, 2012 1:19:50 AM UTC-6, Tim wrote: Ok so I've had the Homer for 2 years and am about to get my third rear wheel. Here's my story: Peter White built the bike and wheels. Velocity Synergy with XT hubs and 36 spokes.I hit a pothole pretty good fairly early in the bikes life. LBS said rim couldn't be tried so they built up another Synergy with my hub. Fast forward to now. That wheel has maybe 5-7k miles on it and has stress cracks all over it. They started around the spokes and spread to the sides. So time for another. I'm working in CT now and found a LBS that knows what a Riv is. Owner builds the wheels. Well, he says that Synergy rims (and Velocity in general) are just not that good. I've heard the same thing out of a couple of other people too, and they k ow more about wheels than me. Thing is, I can't imagine why Riv and Peter would so highly recommend them if they're poor quality. But my experiences are making me wonder, what with 2 wheels in around 10k miles. LBS guy is recommending a Mavic, I think one of the CXP styles saying they're much stronger. What should I do??? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RrmJBqNkxT8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Velocity quality
I had a Synergy rim do exactly the same thing. In addition, both rims were slightly undersized, so wire bead tires (all brands) wouldn't stay on. I could only get folding tires to stay on the rims. Synergy offered to replace them (for the size problem), but I haven't gotten around to sending the rims to them, since it would involve unlacing a functional wheel. Now that the rear wheel has destroyed itself, I mean to send in that rim. Bruce Okemos, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qa2CMz4zgOkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Keeping your neck warm
One alternative that hasn't been mentioned is highlighted in today's Yehuda Moon: http://yehudamoon.com/ On Friday, November 30, 2012 10:01:56 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: that are a wee bit low to do this. What do y'all use to keep your neck warm in situations where you don't want to add another garment with a higher collar? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4wYSpGrY2HkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Velocity quality
I have several wheelsets built with Velocity Aerohead rims, and thousands of miles of use on them. Never a single problem. Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy On Dec 5, 2012, at 11:19 PM, Tim tim.ki...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok so I've had the Homer for 2 years and am about to get my third rear wheel. Here's my story: Peter White built the bike and wheels. Velocity Synergy with XT hubs and 36 spokes.I hit a pothole pretty good fairly early in the bikes life. LBS said rim couldn't be tried so they built up another Synergy with my hub. Fast forward to now. That wheel has maybe 5-7k miles on it and has stress cracks all over it. They started around the spokes and spread to the sides. So time for another. I'm working in CT now and found a LBS that knows what a Riv is. Owner builds the wheels. Well, he says that Synergy rims (and Velocity in general) are just not that good. I've heard the same thing out of a couple of other people too, and they k ow more about wheels than me. Thing is, I can't imagine why Riv and Peter would so highly recommend them if they're poor quality. But my experiences are making me wonder, what with 2 wheels in around 10k miles. LBS guy is recommending a Mavic, I think one of the CXP styles saying they're much stronger. What should I do??? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BhLh3DtKnJkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Switching to Moustachios from drops?!?!
I doubt that moustache bars will help your reach problem, as they are fairly long reach bars themselves. Most people (including grant?) say that if you're comfy with a certain stem length on drops, you'll need a ~2cm shorter stem to feel good on Moustaches. Since you're already on a 7cm stem with drops, that might be a problem--not sure how easy it is to find 50cm technomics (did they even make them?). Part of the Rivendell Geometry is that their top tubes are on the long side. Grant's justification is that a higher overall bar position allows you to reach further, and I think that works for some, but I've always found I prefer shorter top tubes even though I'm a big guy. My advice would be to try a short reach drop bar, something like the Soma Hwy One, which you can get in silver and 26.0mm, so you could drop it right into your existing technomic. The Noodle, while having lots of real estate to rest your hands on, has on the flipside a relatively long reach and drop. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:56:06 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: Anyone made the switch? Seems like on every drop bar bike I dun rid, I just always feel too stretched out. Even with my 7cm shorty stem and flat ramps. Even knowing I have the correct frame sizes and have the bar above saddle height now. On the tops, its always perfect. Hoods - feel too stretched out. Hooks/drops - fuggettabowdit .5 mile at a time at best, and that takes discipline. I sit up at about 50 degrees when on the hoods. So I was thinking of slapping a used moustache I have on the bike and trying that. Maybe my 44 year old bones just don't like drops anymore. Maybe i am being too persnicketty and am looking for absolute comfort, when there is no such thang on a bike? Thoughts? Anyone made the switch? The good part is it'll cost me exactly 0$ and 0 cents to try it. I can use the tape/levers/shifters from my current setup on the staches. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2V8FW3IbkzQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Switching to Moustachios from drops?!?!
Why not the Bosco bars, they have a good reach in the front and let you sit up nice and tall on the grips. I borrowed the setup of a fellow list member and did mine with interruptor levers and dia-compe nubs, lots o hand positions. On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt that moustache bars will help your reach problem, as they are fairly long reach bars themselves. Most people (including grant?) say that if you're comfy with a certain stem length on drops, you'll need a ~2cm shorter stem to feel good on Moustaches. Since you're already on a 7cm stem with drops, that might be a problem--not sure how easy it is to find 50cm technomics (did they even make them?). Part of the Rivendell Geometry is that their top tubes are on the long side. Grant's justification is that a higher overall bar position allows you to reach further, and I think that works for some, but I've always found I prefer shorter top tubes even though I'm a big guy. My advice would be to try a short reach drop bar, something like the Soma Hwy One, which you can get in silver and 26.0mm, so you could drop it right into your existing technomic. The Noodle, while having lots of real estate to rest your hands on, has on the flipside a relatively long reach and drop. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:56:06 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: Anyone made the switch? Seems like on every drop bar bike I dun rid, I just always feel too stretched out. Even with my 7cm shorty stem and flat ramps. Even knowing I have the correct frame sizes and have the bar above saddle height now. On the tops, its always perfect. Hoods - feel too stretched out. Hooks/drops - fuggettabowdit .5 mile at a time at best, and that takes discipline. I sit up at about 50 degrees when on the hoods. So I was thinking of slapping a used moustache I have on the bike and trying that. Maybe my 44 year old bones just don't like drops anymore. Maybe i am being too persnicketty and am looking for absolute comfort, when there is no such thang on a bike? Thoughts? Anyone made the switch? The good part is it'll cost me exactly 0$ and 0 cents to try it. I can use the tape/levers/shifters from my current setup on the staches. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2V8FW3IbkzQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Velocity quality
OK Matt, that counts as weathering - in this case it's mechanically assisted weathering - and it has nothing whatsoever to do with the cracks they are discussing on this thread. On Thursday, December 6, 2012 10:38:19 AM UTC-6, Matt Beebe wrote: If you ride in the grime and rain, a common reality if you commute by bike, your brake pads will eventually eat through the rim sidewalls. Even if you only ride in dry conditions, dirt will get in there, between the pads and the rim, unless you are riding in a clean room. On Thursday, December 6, 2012 10:11:51 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: I'm a metallurgist and licensed professional engineer. If you make something monolithic, it doesn't have a life span. If it's not monolithic, it fatigues at something below 10 million load cycles (if it exceeds 10 million load cycles, it's assumed to be monolithic). On a rolling wheel, cycles add up quickly. What is being called stress cracking is really fatigue, and it generally means there is a soft spot or hard spot, or mechanical divot the the point the crack starts. Rims can also deteriorate by weathering and then eventually stress crack, which is corrosion-assisted cracking. But if you do it right, there is no reason to have a life limit. My Rigida rims have 18 million cycles on them. On Thursday, December 6, 2012 1:19:50 AM UTC-6, Tim wrote: Ok so I've had the Homer for 2 years and am about to get my third rear wheel. Here's my story: Peter White built the bike and wheels. Velocity Synergy with XT hubs and 36 spokes.I hit a pothole pretty good fairly early in the bikes life. LBS said rim couldn't be tried so they built up another Synergy with my hub. Fast forward to now. That wheel has maybe 5-7k miles on it and has stress cracks all over it. They started around the spokes and spread to the sides. So time for another. I'm working in CT now and found a LBS that knows what a Riv is. Owner builds the wheels. Well, he says that Synergy rims (and Velocity in general) are just not that good. I've heard the same thing out of a couple of other people too, and they k ow more about wheels than me. Thing is, I can't imagine why Riv and Peter would so highly recommend them if they're poor quality. But my experiences are making me wonder, what with 2 wheels in around 10k miles. LBS guy is recommending a Mavic, I think one of the CXP styles saying they're much stronger. What should I do??? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Dhm8e0ILIrAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Switching to Moustachios from drops?!?!
yes, they make 50 cm Technomic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HGEe88VSYfYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: David Lance Goines Riv Poster--inexpensive framing option
I finally had my poster framed about a month ago; I was on the fence for long time. I know what framing costs in my area as we've had a lot of pieces done over the years. It will make a difference in price if you choose to mat it. That's what I was contemplating originally as I was going to put it on a large wall. When I changed my mind and decided on a smaller wall, I went with no mat. That opens more doors as smaller frames are cheaper. BTW, the width is actually closer to 17.75, but I guess it's not much of a problem to use a stock 18 frame. Anyway, here's what I ended up doing. I was shopping local antique stores, thinking that I might luck out and find an old frame that I liked with the proper dimensions. Saw some possibilities, nothing perfect. I think with enough shopping, this could be done. I wanted an Arts Crafts look to compliment the print. In one shop they were selling framed old-style posters in quarter-sawn oak frames. I inquired about custom frames and the owner obliged and ordered one from his source (in Montana, I believe). For the unmatted size, he charged me $65. When the frame came, I took it to my favorite frame shop, and the owner suggested I go with what he called preservation grade framing: acid free board, UV glass, etc. The poster is dry-mounted to the board, so this is a permanent arrangement. He put spacers between the poster and the frame so that it doesn't touch the glass. This is recommended if you don't use a mat. He charged me $55. So the total cost was $120 and I'm thrilled with the results as well as the price. Don't have a pix, but will post one if anyone is interested. Same general look as ttoshi's with different wood. Cheers, Steve On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 2:14:22 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: thanks for showing the poster - I was wondering about it. He's not too sky about copying Mucha. But so did everyone else. Cool poster. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/F4rfRnqyifUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Velocity quality
We've replaced (through Velocity warranty) a large number of cracked Synergy rims. I think Grant likes them because they're classic eyeletted box style and they are one of the only mainstream options in 650B with a brake surface. Velocity told me the more recent production Synergy rims have a thicker top-wall, which should help. I've been using Dyads and Aeroheads and the like for myself and numerous customers for 8 years with no problems whatsoever. We've been getting US-made Velocity rims for the last several months. Quality looks as good or better than Australian-made equivalents. On Thursday, December 6, 2012 1:19:50 AM UTC-6, Tim wrote: Ok so I've had the Homer for 2 years and am about to get my third rear wheel. Here's my story: Peter White built the bike and wheels. Velocity Synergy with XT hubs and 36 spokes.I hit a pothole pretty good fairly early in the bikes life. LBS said rim couldn't be tried so they built up another Synergy with my hub. Fast forward to now. That wheel has maybe 5-7k miles on it and has stress cracks all over it. They started around the spokes and spread to the sides. So time for another. I'm working in CT now and found a LBS that knows what a Riv is. Owner builds the wheels. Well, he says that Synergy rims (and Velocity in general) are just not that good. I've heard the same thing out of a couple of other people too, and they k ow more about wheels than me. Thing is, I can't imagine why Riv and Peter would so highly recommend them if they're poor quality. But my experiences are making me wonder, what with 2 wheels in around 10k miles. LBS guy is recommending a Mavic, I think one of the CXP styles saying they're much stronger. What should I do??? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/PhrvP6DpT6IJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Frame Raffle
Even a person who doesn't need anything at the moment should buy themself a $300 gift certificate. Buy the $300 Gift Certificate, hand it to your wife and tell her This is what I want for Christmas. It's perfect! On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:15:37 PM UTC-8, BSWP wrote: That would be a Mountain Fixte! I'm looking at what I can justify, seeing if it will come to $300 - Andrew, Berkeley On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 11:57:47 AM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: I'd do a version of that Mountain Fixie that was such a troublesome truck. Basically a fixed gear fool-around-in-the-woods bike. Able to take 60mm Big Apples and fenders, like a super-attractive version of my industrial-ugly Gravel Roadsterhttp://www.biketinker.com/2012/projects/front-bag-conversion-on-problem-solvers/. Flared drops. Threadless stem. Berthoud saddle, maybe? I like your mixte idea for standover/bailoff clearance. Maybe an Abele gray, black, or pea-sage green; something low-key for the woods. Pencil blue, maybe. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0ReHXuDXuVQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Oppossum Stuff C'est Magnifique!
that kiwi 'possum stuff is brilliant: just about as warm and light as down (that's barely exaggerated). My family is in New Zealand, and so I've had plenty of opportunity to 1) see lots of different 'possum garments, 2) talk to a lot of Kiwis about it, and 3) obtained a few items. The outdoors folk love it. The radar hat offered by Riv currently is my absolute go-to winter bike hat (and I should just mention here that I am a hat collector). Fits under a helmet, covers your ears, double layer so really warm, not scratchy in any way, light as can be, has a brim, doesn't squeeze the noggin. If you live in colder climes, put it on your or your loved one's christmas list. I am also hoping that Grant might consider Kiwi-America's-Cup-Red 'possum socks (even though the originals were wool) because they are currently my all-time favorite socks for comfort and snappy looks. (http://www.sirpeterblaketrust.org/get-involved/red-socks-day/) yours, liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/B76mXRrPTY0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki
FWIW, I'm pretty sure Vince of RBW fame is still selling his 60cm canti-luki... mmm butterscotch. =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 12/6/12, C.J. Filip c.j.fi...@hotmail.com wrote: Sounds like we have nearly the same PBH. I can straddle the 60cm Saluki in bare feet with Hetres, and not want/need to tip toe due to top tube clearance. Recommend going bigger. On Dec 5, 7:16 pm, SeanMac seanm...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for all of your help today. I spent the day on jury duty, so I am a bit slow in sending thanks. When I returned home I had my son help me to re-measure my PBH. We ended up taking several measurements, typically getting a PBH between 86 - 87. Based on Riv's chart, his seems to put me at a 56 Sam, a 58-60 Saluki (or Bleriot) and 58-61 Homer. I don't need a new bike any time soon, but it would be nice to take advantage of a deal. However, since a new bike is a bike purchase, I want to make the best decision possible - even if that means not buying anything. The problem, of course, is that one can never know for sure what deals will come by. However, since I live in Buffalo, it is pretty unlikely that I will be outdoors on a bike any time soon. I probably should hang tight and wait for a deal that I can't pass up. Sorry for thinking out loud. I do appreciate all or your help / advice. Someday I'll make up my mind! Sean On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:51:52 AM UTC-5, Frank wrote: I have a 62cm Saluki and a 63cm AHH and my PBH is 89.5. Mine are set up differently, but if I were to go down the like-to-like line on a per-component basis, they would be very similar. I love them both, ride them both almost equally, and I've done light touring on both. I've also ridden each of them loaded with 5 days worth of clothing and stuff to support an extended vacation / stay in PDX on the Seattle to Portland ride in years past. I didn't weigh them, but would guess that with two panniers and a Hoss pretty fully packed I probably had 45lbs. of jank plus 165lbs of me on the bike. Both bikes worked fine at 100m/d, though I'd say they were close to the limit. In any event, the Saluki is a great bike and would be well suited to the riding you describe, though so would the Sam. Can't see how you could go wrong either way. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 5:35:26 AM UTC-8, SeanMac wrote: I have noticed several Salukis for sale recently on ebay. I know that this bike was produced before the Bleriot, but I have had a somewhat difficult time finding information about it on the web. I am hoping that a list member or three might be able to shed some light on this bike for me. I'm in the market for a bike for longer rides and perhaps some short touring - Erie Canal, C O Trail, etc. I've had my eyes on a Sam for some time, but have not yet pulled the trigger (might on the all-blue Sam - what a deal). Would a Saluki be well-suited for this kind of riding or is it really designed as a country bike / credit card tourer / rambler / century ride bike? How would the Saluki compare to a Homer? I can't seem to find a chart that matches PBH to Saluki sizing. Should I simply use the general chart on the Riv site, matching the 650b section to my height to choose the correct Saluki? Thanks, Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki
Canti_Luki!??!? You are KILLING ME! On Thursday, December 6, 2012 12:56:00 PM UTC-8, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, I'm pretty sure Vince of RBW fame is still selling his 60cm canti-luki... mmm butterscotch. =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 12/6/12, C.J. Filip c.j@hotmail.com javascript: wrote: Sounds like we have nearly the same PBH. I can straddle the 60cm Saluki in bare feet with Hetres, and not want/need to tip toe due to top tube clearance. Recommend going bigger. On Dec 5, 7:16 pm, SeanMac seanm...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for all of your help today. I spent the day on jury duty, so I am a bit slow in sending thanks. When I returned home I had my son help me to re-measure my PBH. We ended up taking several measurements, typically getting a PBH between 86 - 87. Based on Riv's chart, his seems to put me at a 56 Sam, a 58-60 Saluki (or Bleriot) and 58-61 Homer. I don't need a new bike any time soon, but it would be nice to take advantage of a deal. However, since a new bike is a bike purchase, I want to make the best decision possible - even if that means not buying anything. The problem, of course, is that one can never know for sure what deals will come by. However, since I live in Buffalo, it is pretty unlikely that I will be outdoors on a bike any time soon. I probably should hang tight and wait for a deal that I can't pass up. Sorry for thinking out loud. I do appreciate all or your help / advice. Someday I'll make up my mind! Sean On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:51:52 AM UTC-5, Frank wrote: I have a 62cm Saluki and a 63cm AHH and my PBH is 89.5. Mine are set up differently, but if I were to go down the like-to-like line on a per-component basis, they would be very similar. I love them both, ride them both almost equally, and I've done light touring on both. I've also ridden each of them loaded with 5 days worth of clothing and stuff to support an extended vacation / stay in PDX on the Seattle to Portland ride in years past. I didn't weigh them, but would guess that with two panniers and a Hoss pretty fully packed I probably had 45lbs. of jank plus 165lbs of me on the bike. Both bikes worked fine at 100m/d, though I'd say they were close to the limit. In any event, the Saluki is a great bike and would be well suited to the riding you describe, though so would the Sam. Can't see how you could go wrong either way. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 5:35:26 AM UTC-8, SeanMac wrote: I have noticed several Salukis for sale recently on ebay. I know that this bike was produced before the Bleriot, but I have had a somewhat difficult time finding information about it on the web. I am hoping that a list member or three might be able to shed some light on this bike for me. I'm in the market for a bike for longer rides and perhaps some short touring - Erie Canal, C O Trail, etc. I've had my eyes on a Sam for some time, but have not yet pulled the trigger (might on the all-blue Sam - what a deal). Would a Saluki be well-suited for this kind of riding or is it really designed as a country bike / credit card tourer / rambler / century ride bike? How would the Saluki compare to a Homer? I can't seem to find a chart that matches PBH to Saluki sizing. Should I simply use the general chart on the Riv site, matching the 650b section to my height to choose the correct Saluki? Thanks, Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hdoAMIm4yR0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Frame Raffle
Hmm..that's an interesting idea. If you win the frame, you spend the certificate on parts for it! Joe Bernard On Thursday, December 6, 2012 12:05:05 PM UTC-8, William wrote: Even a person who doesn't need anything at the moment should buy themself a $300 gift certificate. Buy the $300 Gift Certificate, hand it to your wife and tell her This is what I want for Christmas. It's perfect! On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:15:37 PM UTC-8, BSWP wrote: That would be a Mountain Fixte! I'm looking at what I can justify, seeing if it will come to $300 - Andrew, Berkeley On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 11:57:47 AM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: I'd do a version of that Mountain Fixie that was such a troublesome truck. Basically a fixed gear fool-around-in-the-woods bike. Able to take 60mm Big Apples and fenders, like a super-attractive version of my industrial-ugly Gravel Roadsterhttp://www.biketinker.com/2012/projects/front-bag-conversion-on-problem-solvers/. Flared drops. Threadless stem. Berthoud saddle, maybe? I like your mixte idea for standover/bailoff clearance. Maybe an Abele gray, black, or pea-sage green; something low-key for the woods. Pencil blue, maybe. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/j2r3Bu7X8IMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Frame Raffle
I already got my box of goodies! On Thursday, December 6, 2012 1:43:40 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Hmm..that's an interesting idea. If you win the frame, you spend the certificate on parts for it! Joe Bernard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6B2GwXtsPN0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS/slightly OT: 66cm Takara Overland Fixed Gear + extras (geared setup)--$350
Is that a home-made saddlebag carrier? I plan to make one similar but bending the ears at an angle so that they project upward rather than downward -- don't have such huge clearance between saddle and tire on my frames. How does the carrier work? What sort of weight will it take? I suppose you used hardware store aluminum stock? Thanks. On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: (x-post from iBob, apologies if you see it twice). Hey Folks- Need to free up space and capital for other bike projects, so I've decided to sell my Takara Overland. It is currently setup as kind of a townie-fixed gear, built on a frame designed for loaded touring. Since I've recently acquired a Quickbeam for fixed gear townie duties, I don't really need this anymore. I bought it used a couple of years ago, built up as a full on loaded tourer, and to sweeten the deal on the bike I will included the 7spd (FW) rear wheel, shifters and derailleurs, so you can convert it back to a geared bike if you so desire. Pictures here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/85709120@N07/sets/72157632186942080/ The details: -Frame measures 66cm c-c seat tube, 57cm top tube, parallel 73 degree angles. Great for big guys looking for a true fistful of seatpost fit! The tubing stickers say 4130, and if I had to guess I'd say it was straight-gauge--this thing is definitely not a lightweight. Designed for 27 wheels with cantilever brakes. -48cm Salsa Woodchipper handlebars with 150mm pre-QBP (i.e., Hecho en Petaluma!) Salsa Quill Stem with brake hsg stop and cable roller. It took some doing to get this bar in this stem, so there are some scratches under the tape. -Dia-compe canitlever brakes with Tektro R200 brake levers, Cane Creek gum hoods. -Rear wheel is Origin8 branded Formula sealed bearing track hub, double-sided fixed threading, 126mm spacing, laced with 14g spokes to Sun CR18 27 (630mm bsd) rim. 17t and 19t cogs. -Front wheel is a generic Weinmann single wall 27 rim on Sansin hub. -Tires are 27x1 1/4 (630x32mm) Schwalbe Marathons with very few miles on them. -Crankset is a Sugino GT 110x74 triple, currently running a single 40t chainring. 115mm Shimano UN-54 BB with 2mm spacer under driveside cup for proper chainline. -Dimension pedals. -WTB Speed V seat on Kalloy seatpost. -SKS P45 fenders. Not on the bike, but I will include-- -Original Jim Blackburn silver alloy rear rack. -7spd freewheel rear wheel, which matches the front--Weinmann single-wall rim with Sansin hub. Shimano Freewheel. -Original Shimano Deerhead Deore F + R derailleurs, Suntour Symmetric Shifters for single-bolt mounting on top of the DT. (Note: one of the shifter pivot bolts might be stripped). -Original triple chainrings- 50/45/28 Note: The frame isn't perfect. The rear dropouts aren't perfectly parallel, the fork alignment is a little bit off. The canti posts are positioned such that it's hard to use any other brakes than the ones that are on there, and you definitely couldn't fit 700c wheels unless you cut them off and used caliper brakes. There are a couple of scratches and tiny dings. At one point, a previous owner clamped a kickstand to the chainstays, and chainstays are minorly dented and paint is stripped there. However, given the general beefyness of this frame, all of this never worried me one bit. I meant to fix this up and return it to geared setup before selling it, but it looks like I'm just not going to have the time. As a result of all this, I'm offering first and foremost to BOBs, RBW list folks, and other bike geeks who can understand it's not perfect and see the potential in it anyways, especially given its uniquely large size and some of the cool parts. Asking $350, with reasonable offers accepted. Ideally, i'd like to sell it local to somebody in the SF Bay Area, but if you aren't local and really want it, we'll work out a deal to ship it. Contact me off-list. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xRSQKFXlOUEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: [RBW] Oppossum Stuff C'est Magnifique!
This makes me wonder - how does the current hat differ from the grey one of a few years ago? The older one is my cool to just about cold weather hat off the bike. On the bike, end up sweating too much with a hat under a helmet. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote: that kiwi 'possum stuff is brilliant: just about as warm and light as down (that's barely exaggerated). My family is in New Zealand, and so I've had plenty of opportunity to 1) see lots of different 'possum garments, 2) talk to a lot of Kiwis about it, and 3) obtained a few items. The outdoors folk love it. The radar hat offered by Riv currently is my absolute go-to winter bike hat (and I should just mention here that I am a hat collector). Fits under a helmet, covers your ears, double layer so really warm, not scratchy in any way, light as can be, has a brim, doesn't squeeze the noggin. If you live in colder climes, put it on your or your loved one's christmas list. I am also hoping that Grant might consider Kiwi-America's-Cup-Red 'possum socks (even though the originals were wool) because they are currently my all-time favorite socks for comfort and snappy looks. ( http://www.sirpeterblaketrust.org/get-involved/red-socks-day/) yours, liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/B76mXRrPTY0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Velocity quality
I love my Velocity Rims, but: My Synergy, machined, 32 hole - the rim joint makes noise when brakes are applied (brand new rim, too.). My Twin Hollow, non-machined, 32 hole - the rim joint makes noise when brakes are applied (older). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/dQwrcwrFwS0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: David Lance Goines Riv Poster--inexpensive framing option
I would frame it with Brooks leather bartape as the matt. I would try to think of something from a bike I could use as the frame... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7wjD5IsVmuUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Oppossum Stuff C'est Magnifique!
Good question Eric--I have both. There are a few different possum companies. I got my bike cap from riv and my radar cap in NZ; however, the designs across companies were less than minimal. That said, here's my comparison: bike cap is single layer, smaller brim, fits the head snuggly, and is shorter relative to the ears. Conversely, radar hat is double layer, bigger brim (about like a riv cotton cap), and, most importantly for winter riding, when unfolded, it not covers below the ears but the nape of the neck as well. I double checked this on a larger head than mine by placing it on erin's noggin which is a hat size 7 1/4 to 7 3/8. Hope this helps and provides embarrassing evidence of how much I love hats. Also note that when Erin tried on the radar just now, she exclaimed, oh! This is really nice! Are you gonna get me one? 'nuff said! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/kK0-ABAaxLUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Are A. Homer, Sam, Betty, and Ives real peeps?
Thanks for the info. I have been wondering. I think the names match the Rivendell vibe of down to earth, everyday riders. A. Homer Hilsen, Betty Foy, and Sam Hillborne are very Americana sounding, too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/V80gq4eQQmIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: David Lance Goines Riv Poster--inexpensive framing option
That could get more expensive than having it professionally framed! You could wrap it around the frame but you can't mat with leather, oils will ruin the poster in short amount of time. On Dec 6, 2012 8:00 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: I would frame it with Brooks leather bartape as the matt. I would try to think of something from a bike I could use as the frame... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7wjD5IsVmuUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Oppossum Stuff C'est Magnifique!
Ps. Eric--the radar may possibly be too warm for you under your helmet unless it's really Minnesota-cold. as a smaller person, I run colder so it's great for me. (also just saw that I had a missed word--it not *only* covers below the ear...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JCnOJC7bGD0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Are A. Homer, Sam, Betty, and Ives real peeps?
I've had people ask me where Homer Hilsen's shop is... assuming AHH is the name of the builder. --Andy On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:10:24 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: Are these real peeps, or just creative bike names? A. Homer Hilsen Betty Foy Yves Gomez Samuel Hillborne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/yjn1nA_sBSsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Are A. Homer, Sam, Betty, and Ives real peeps?
I've had more than one person assume that Atlantis was the name of the company, not a model. One guy even said I haven't seen an Atlantis in ages. What model is that?. He'd never heard of Rivendell argued about the origin of the name, telling me I was dreadfully wrong. Being wrong 40% of the time takes the sting out of being dreadfully wrong about my bike's name. dougP On Dec 6, 6:10 pm, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: I've had people ask me where Homer Hilsen's shop is... assuming AHH is the name of the builder. --Andy On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:10:24 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: Are these real peeps, or just creative bike names? A. Homer Hilsen Betty Foy Yves Gomez Samuel Hillborne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Are A. Homer, Sam, Betty, and Ives real peeps?
Apparently the headbadge proclaiming By Rivendell was dreadfully wrong, too... Joe dreadfully wrong Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Thursday, December 6, 2012 7:07:53 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote: I've had more than one person assume that Atlantis was the name of the company, not a model. One guy even said I haven't seen an Atlantis in ages. What model is that?. He'd never heard of Rivendell argued about the origin of the name, telling me I was dreadfully wrong. Being wrong 40% of the time takes the sting out of being dreadfully wrong about my bike's name. dougP On Dec 6, 6:10 pm, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: I've had people ask me where Homer Hilsen's shop is... assuming AHH is the name of the builder. --Andy On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:10:24 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: Are these real peeps, or just creative bike names? A. Homer Hilsen Betty Foy Yves Gomez Samuel Hillborne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ot5fYtJCZAcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Are A. Homer, Sam, Betty, and Ives real peeps?
Having the Rivendell Pendant in my classroom my students think it's a college instead of a bike shop On Thursday, December 6, 2012 7:52:20 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Apparently the headbadge proclaiming By Rivendell was dreadfully wrong, too... Joe dreadfully wrong Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Thursday, December 6, 2012 7:07:53 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote: I've had more than one person assume that Atlantis was the name of the company, not a model. One guy even said I haven't seen an Atlantis in ages. What model is that?. He'd never heard of Rivendell argued about the origin of the name, telling me I was dreadfully wrong. Being wrong 40% of the time takes the sting out of being dreadfully wrong about my bike's name. dougP On Dec 6, 6:10 pm, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: I've had people ask me where Homer Hilsen's shop is... assuming AHH is the name of the builder. --Andy On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:10:24 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: Are these real peeps, or just creative bike names? A. Homer Hilsen Betty Foy Yves Gomez Samuel Hillborne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lk28erZUsa0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] RBW specials
Come on, fess up. Who bought the Hilsen? On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 6:43:50 PM UTC-8, Crazy4Suki wrote: Looks like the Homer, tandem and Extracycle are gone already. Had my eye on the Extracycle, and am slightly relieved I don't need to find more garage space ;) Did you happen to get it, Manny? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CE8pPxTlErAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: David Lance Goines Riv Poster--inexpensive framing option
Perfect! On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:55 AM, islaysteve alkire...@verizon.net wrote: I finally had my poster framed about a month ago; I was on the fence for long time. I know what framing costs in my area as we've had a lot of pieces done over the years. It will make a difference in price if you choose to mat it. That's what I was contemplating originally as I was going to put it on a large wall. When I changed my mind and decided on a smaller wall, I went with no mat. That opens more doors as smaller frames are cheaper. BTW, the width is actually closer to 17.75, but I guess it's not much of a problem to use a stock 18 frame. Anyway, here's what I ended up doing. I was shopping local antique stores, thinking that I might luck out and find an old frame that I liked with the proper dimensions. Saw some possibilities, nothing perfect. I think with enough shopping, this could be done. I wanted an Arts Crafts look to compliment the print. In one shop they were selling framed old-style posters in quarter-sawn oak frames. I inquired about custom frames and the owner obliged and ordered one from his source (in Montana, I believe). For the unmatted size, he charged me $65. When the frame came, I took it to my favorite frame shop, and the owner suggested I go with what he called preservation grade framing: acid free board, UV glass, etc. The poster is dry-mounted to the board, so this is a permanent arrangement. He put spacers between the poster and the frame so that it doesn't touch the glass. This is recommended if you don't use a mat. He charged me $55. So the total cost was $120 and I'm thrilled with the results as well as the price. Don't have a pix, but will post one if anyone is interested. Same general look as ttoshi's with different wood. Cheers, Steve On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 2:14:22 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: thanks for showing the poster - I was wondering about it. He's not too sky about copying Mucha. But so did everyone else. Cool poster. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/F4rfRnqyifUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Anyone used Finish Line Speed Clean on their Riv? Wanna degrease drivetrain before Boeshilding. Safe?
Don't know what kinda finish Rivpaint is, and wanted to know what is safe and fast to use on drivetrains (derailers/chains/cassetes/cranks/jockey arms). After cleaning, I am gonna Boeshield it all. Finish Line Speed Clean looks simplest - just spray it on and all the grime just falls off, and then the areas sprayed will dry with no rinsing or wiping. Sounds like I could spray the Speed clean, then follow with Boeshield. That easy? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qYuKKYPP3PwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
