[RBW] Re: Riv Wrap Fest in Seattle

2013-01-28 Thread Rob
That was awesome Brian! Thanks so much! I could not have done that without 
your and Bruce's help. At least, not in one afternoon. ;) Mine came out a 
bit wonky, but not bad at all for the first time. The hands-on workshop 
idea worked out fabulously. I suspect there will be more. It's a great way 
to learn stuff and fun to hang with other Rivendellians. 

Lots happening on my bike this weekend--going back to Gran Bois Rando bar 
and ErgoPower brifters from 46cm Noodle and Silver downtube shifters--I 
tried!, and trying out a new old SunTour front derailleur I got from Rob 
M., to see if it'll shift the TA Pro Vis triple better than the DA 7800 
series that came with the bike. 

Now the question is, to shellac or not to shellac? Amber shellac muddied 
things up considerably, in my off-bike test. 

Thanks again Brian!

Rob H. in Seattle

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[RBW] Re: Virgin ride on my new Hilsen.

2013-01-28 Thread Amit Singh
Wow.  Beautiful bicycle!

On Sunday, 27 January 2013 18:03:58 UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 Well after an excruciatingly long process, selling bikes, wheel sets and 
 making the decision which Rivendell bicycle to go with, color, parts… I 
 finally rode my new steed…oh yeah I did my usual over tightening and broke 
 the seat tube binder bolt. No problem rode down to Santa Barbara’s Velo-pro 
  fellow's there said is that a Masi?…new bolt rolling, here’s some 
 pictures’ for your perusal.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157632622677442/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157632622749622/




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Re: [RBW] Re: 1 bike? Could you do it?

2013-01-28 Thread Bruce Baker
Have some pics of this steed to show us??

On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:04 PM, capnjack capn_j...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 After riding for years, I, just last summer bought a SOMA Fabrications
 Extra Smoothie.   I am 65 and don't race, but I had a super light
 Specialized Roubaix Pro and it was just not comfortable.  I also rode a
 double suspension MTB, but I could not get into trail riding on a regular
 basis, partly because the trails stay wet most of the winter and they are
 not good for riding because they tear up the land.  Both bikes had been
 raced by their previous owners and I knew  was getting pro quality stuff.
 That is, until I rode the ES by SOMA.  I had met Grant Petersen and got a
 lot of insight from reading his book, Just Ride.
  I went with 700 X 28mm ruffy-tuffies and LOVE the ride.  I have now sold
 both other bikes and all I ride is the Extra Smoothie.  The frame only cost
 $399!  My total cost of the bike, including custom fitting by a Serotta
 dealer who really knows his stuff, only came to around $2 Grand.  This
 included custom wheels and most accessories you would find on a Sam or any
 other RIV inspired bike.  They have a great website and I do not have any
 commercial interest in the company.
 Best Wishes and good luck on your search.
 Number One-DO GET A PRO BIKE FIT-I wish I had done it years ago.

 Jack E
 Nashville, TN




 On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 8:48:04 PM UTC-6, murphyjrfk wrote:

 Suppose the title says it all. But I've been a thinking about going down
 to 1---not a big step down cause I normally only have two three tops o'
 working bikes anyways. And the overlap is out of control. How many 26
 touring bikes does one fellow need deal. But I love what I love I guess.

 One bike? Could ya do it and what would it be?

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[RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread Ron Mc
something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind this 
weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag.  Seriously, 
it directs the wind flow and  reduces the parachute effect of your torso 
and thighs.  It was also a great place to stuff my layers as the day and I 
both warmed up.  

On Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:50:41 PM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 I dunno Manny three in back + three in front = 9 in my math.

 ;^)

 Congrats on a great ride!  Jealous not to be out there.

 - Jim / cyclofiend.com


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[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa stretching it's 1/2 mile chainstays on Mt Diablo

2013-01-28 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Not feelin the B68 love?  I too prefer the B17, but I have always 
especially liked the B67 and B68 for around-town, and yet wondered whether 
they'd be too wide for longer, harder riding.

Beautiful bike... I'm wondering why the derailleur cables both route down 
the right side?  At first glance it looks a bit jumbled where the two 
cables converge... curious.

Thx for sharing the great photos... 

BB

On Sunday, January 27, 2013 12:41:55 PM UTC-5, oli c wrote:

 Friends of fine lugged bicycles,
 Here's a pictorial report on yesterday Joe Appaloosa ride.
 It handled great as one would expect. Very stable, not sluggish and 
 luxurious feeling for lack of a better description.
 The saddle was awful though, too flat, too wide, like a plank. I may take 
 my own broken in B17 for next test ride.

 Here are some pics on the Flickr:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/olipop/sets/72157632621944748/


 Have a great day,

 Olivier in SF


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Re: [RBW] Virgin ride on my new Hilsen.

2013-01-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Congrats -- enjoy it. Nice build.

On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:03 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well after an excruciatingly long process, selling bikes, wheel sets and
 making the decision which Rivendell bicycle to go with, color, parts… I
 finally rode my new steed…oh yeah I did my usual over tightening and broke
 the seat tube binder bolt. No problem rode down to Santa Barbara’s Velo-pro
  fellow's there said is that a Masi?…new bolt rolling, here’s some
 pictures’ for your perusal.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157632622677442/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157632622749622/


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Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 06:53 -0800, Ron Mc wrote:
 something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind
 this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag.
 Seriously, it directs the wind flow and  reduces the parachute effect
 of your torso and thighs.  It was also a great place to stuff my
 layers as the day and I both warmed up. 

And in the cold weather, it keeps the frigid drafts off your naughty
bits, too.



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Re: [RBW] jack brown's

2013-01-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I used JB Greens for about six months and they are good tires, but for my
money I'd choose a Kojak (330 grams with kevlar belt and beads, $60) at a
close to true 35. Or, I'd go to the other extreme and look closely at one
of the Grand Bois tires. For errands and commuting the Kojaks roll very
well and seem far more flat free than the Paselas I've used and than the JG
G's. Note: the K's are not like a top of line racing tire, but they are as
close as you can get with a puncture belt.

On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:11 PM, john johnco...@comcast.net wrote:

 Any out there with opinions on the Browns? Either green or blue? I
 currently ride Panaracer Pasella 35C's and like them very much, but I don't
 have all that many miles left on them, and since Riv is running a 10%
 discount until Feb. on the Browns, thought i might give them a try.

 I ride mostly on pavement, and when off-road, avoid sharp rocks, so I
 would be most interested in the Greens, it would seem. Although I would
 like to stay as fat as 35C, 33.333 isn't that far off, is it?

 I like supple tires, no heavier than they must be to do the job. Are the
 Brown's the ones to get?

 Thanks,

 John

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Re: [RBW] Newbaum's Tape is Great and Better Hunqapillar photos

2013-01-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks -- wish I'd seen it earlier. The 100s are sold out and the 110s will
be too long. Damn!

On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:02 PM, David Banzer daban...@gmail.com wrote:

 I second the appeal to Riv to remake those stems, but with a much longer
 quill. I do think that, if you are going to raise a bar high above the
 steerer, the extension ought to have a positive angle, and the Ritchey
 splits the difference between a 7 and an upjutter. And, the Ritchey is
 simply a nice looking stem.


 In fact, if anyone has something like that in a 9 cm, I 'd be interested
 ...


 Ben's Cycle has/had some Nitto stems in this style. Believe they're NOS
 from the 80's. The handlebar clamp is wide, so bars with tight curves are
 very hard to mount.
 http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=188_263_1332_714

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[RBW] Re: Virgin ride on my new Hilsen.

2013-01-28 Thread David Spranger
Very nice! Love those tires.

On Sunday, January 27, 2013 6:03:58 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 Well after an excruciatingly long process, selling bikes, wheel sets and 
 making the decision which Rivendell bicycle to go with, color, parts… I 
 finally rode my new steed…oh yeah I did my usual over tightening and broke 
 the seat tube binder bolt. No problem rode down to Santa Barbara’s Velo-pro 
  fellow's there said is that a Masi?…new bolt rolling, here’s some 
 pictures’ for your perusal.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157632622677442/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157632622749622/




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[RBW] Re: Riv Wrap Fest in Seattle

2013-01-28 Thread Ryan Ray
Hey! Next time invite me! Also, sell me your silver down tube shifters!

It was such a lame day weather wise, I did make it out to the bike works sale 
though. A guy on a very pretty Atlantis was there and it seemed like Boke Works 
made out ok in the sale. 

- Ryan




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[RBW] Re: Virgin ride on my new Hilsen.

2013-01-28 Thread hsmitham
That drawing was from Will @ Riv who pack the Hilsen. It was a nice touch, 
though I'm not a big cat person.

On Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:25:25 PM UTC-8, Chris wrote:

 Nice. That's such a cool ride. Looks like you put a ton of thought into 
 the build. Was that writing on the top of the box handwritten? That's 
 awesome and a great personal touch.

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Re: [RBW] Virgin ride on my new Hilsen.

2013-01-28 Thread hsmitham
Thanks Rene, those are the Hetres and I drove them through dirt, mud and 
water and the dirt just falls off and the ride is so comfortable and fast! 
I paced a young fellow riding 23c slicks and was fine. My nephew thinks I 
freaked the guy out, I was just putting the tires and bike through the 
paces.Also I'm a fender convert they keep your bike and drive train clean.

Cheers,

Hugh
Sunland, Ca

On Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:32:32 PM UTC-8, René wrote:

 Congratulations on such a lovely setup. That bike looks amazing. What are 
 those white tires? Are you going to get them dirty?

 Enjoy!!!

 René 

 On Sunday, January 27, 2013, hsmitham wrote:

 Well after an excruciatingly long process, selling bikes, wheel sets and 
 making the decision which Rivendell bicycle to go with, color, parts… I 
 finally rode my new steed…oh yeah I did my usual over tightening and broke 
 the seat tube binder bolt. No problem rode down to Santa Barbara’s Velo-pro 
  fellow's there said is that a Masi?…new bolt rolling, here’s some 
 pictures’ for your perusal.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157632622677442/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157632622749622/


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[RBW] Re: Riv Wrap Fest in Seattle

2013-01-28 Thread hsmitham
After seeing this post I wish I lived up in Seattle. Nice wraps.

On Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:15:14 PM UTC-8, stonehog wrote:

 This afternoon, four mad-rad RBW list members got together for a bar 
 taping fest in a Seattle garage (yes, it was raining).  Amazingly, all 
 members arrived on their bikes and carrying nothing more than bar tape, and 
 the willingness to be made a fool of by cotton tape, they learned the fine 
 art of the harlequin bar wrap.  

 We had a good time, and in the end there were 3 new diamond'd up cockpits 
 on a Saluki, Bleriot, and Bosco'd Miyata Ridge Runner Team.  Special thanks 
 to Rob Harrison for his garage, and his family's patience!  For those that 
 missed this round, there will be more.  I will host one in a few months at 
 my place.  

 Pics prove it happened in the rain with chickens...  
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDLXkhF


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 Seattle, WA


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[RBW] jack brown's

2013-01-28 Thread Palmer
Hi John,
My Greens measure a full 35 mm on my wideish Weinman rims that came on the 
Miyata 615gt. Love them.
Tom Palmer
Twin Lake MI

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Re: [RBW] jack brown's

2013-01-28 Thread James Chang
Oh man, that's a great looking AHH with the Herse crank.  Love it.

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:10 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Greens are Great! Get 'em!


 On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote:

 I love 'em.  They offer a nice advantage in that you can get a Blue to
 protect your back wheel (where I get most flats), and put a nice light
 Green on the front.  Good timing as I just did a short write up on these
 tires:


 http://stonehog.wordpress.com/2013/01/27/green-in-the-front-blue-in-the-back/

 Brian
 Seattle, WA


 On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:11 PM, john johnco...@comcast.net wrote:

 Any out there with opinions on the Browns? Either green or blue? I
 currently ride Panaracer Pasella 35C's and like them very much, but I don't
 have all that many miles left on them, and since Riv is running a 10%
 discount until Feb. on the Browns, thought i might give them a try.

 I ride mostly on pavement, and when off-road, avoid sharp rocks, so I
 would be most interested in the Greens, it would seem. Although I would
 like to stay as fat as 35C, 33.333 isn't that far off, is it?

 I like supple tires, no heavier than they must be to do the job. Are the
 Brown's the ones to get?

 Thanks,

 John

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[RBW] Re: Where to get a replacement old school MTB fork?

2013-01-28 Thread James McKinley
Amazon has a couple of brands in different lengths.

Jim

On Sunday, January 27, 2013 3:55:03 PM UTC-10, Fully Lugged wrote:

 Wonder if anyone on the lists has a suggestion. A local rider needs a new 
 fork for his steel non-shock absorber frame MTB. It's actually used as a 
 heavy duty road hauler, but that's another story. Needs to be threaded, old 
 school. I suggested he try Surly.  The Riv forks are 700 iirc. Other ideas?

 Thanks in advance.

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[RBW] Re: jack brown's

2013-01-28 Thread blueride2
Jack Brown Green tires are lightweight and supple, but very susceptible to 
flats in my experience. Forget it when the roads are wet, flat city.

On Sunday, January 27, 2013 7:11:56 PM UTC-5, john wrote:

 Any out there with opinions on the Browns? Either green or blue? I 
 currently ride Panaracer Pasella 35C's and like them very much, but I don't 
 have all that many miles left on them, and since Riv is running a 10% 
 discount until Feb. on the Browns, thought i might give them a try. 

 I ride mostly on pavement, and when off-road, avoid sharp rocks, so I 
 would be most interested in the Greens, it would seem. Although I would 
 like to stay as fat as 35C, 33.333 isn't that far off, is it?

 I like supple tires, no heavier than they must be to do the job. Are the 
 Brown's the ones to get?

 Thanks,

 John


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[RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:

 something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind 
 this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag. 
  Seriously, it directs the wind flow and  reduces the parachute effect of 
 your torso and thighs.  It was also a great place to stuff my layers as the 
 day and I both warmed up.  


IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of 
various set ups. ahhh - here ya go:

http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/

- J

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[RBW] Re: jack brown's

2013-01-28 Thread Kelly
I've been running Jack Browns for two years.   I love them...I recently 
put some Gran Bois 700x29 on my Ram  going from the Ram to the AHH with 
the JB's I find the JB's to be more comfortable (note they are wider 
and run a bit less pressure- DUH)   I had Pasela's on my Quickbeam and 
loved them.. I gave them away when I sold the Schwinn Traveler recently... 
the 700x37 may be my favorite tire The JB's are my go to ... Green or 
Blues they both ride great!Lots of good tires out there.

Kelly


On Sunday, January 27, 2013 6:11:56 PM UTC-6, john wrote:

 Any out there with opinions on the Browns? Either green or blue? I 
 currently ride Panaracer Pasella 35C's and like them very much, but I don't 
 have all that many miles left on them, and since Riv is running a 10% 
 discount until Feb. on the Browns, thought i might give them a try. 

 I ride mostly on pavement, and when off-road, avoid sharp rocks, so I 
 would be most interested in the Greens, it would seem. Although I would 
 like to stay as fat as 35C, 33.333 isn't that far off, is it?

 I like supple tires, no heavier than they must be to do the job. Are the 
 Brown's the ones to get?

 Thanks,

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[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa stretching it's 1/2 mile chainstays on Mt Diablo

2013-01-28 Thread Stephen S
The derailleur cables down one side are because it was only designed around 
a rear derailleur only setup. The 2nd one on this bike is because there is 
a rear brake hanger connected to the mount for the cable stop adjuster. 
 This shot shows it 
well. 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/olipop/8419516496/sizes/o/in/set-72157632621944748/
 
It is a pretty awesome solution. Another solution would have been a clamp 
on cable stop http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ca6.htm which would have 
kept the cables seperate but the braze-on might have been exposed. 

Stephen


On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:54:12 AM UTC-8, Montclair BobbyB wrote:

 Not feelin the B68 love?  I too prefer the B17, but I have always 
 especially liked the B67 and B68 for around-town, and yet wondered whether 
 they'd be too wide for longer, harder riding.

 Beautiful bike... I'm wondering why the derailleur cables both route down 
 the right side?  At first glance it looks a bit jumbled where the two 
 cables converge... curious.

 Thx for sharing the great photos... 

 BB

 On Sunday, January 27, 2013 12:41:55 PM UTC-5, oli c wrote:

 Friends of fine lugged bicycles,
 Here's a pictorial report on yesterday Joe Appaloosa ride.
 It handled great as one would expect. Very stable, not sluggish and 
 luxurious feeling for lack of a better description.
 The saddle was awful though, too flat, too wide, like a plank. I may take 
 my own broken in B17 for next test ride.

 Here are some pics on the Flickr:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/olipop/sets/72157632621944748/


 Have a great day,

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[RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread Ron Mc
everyone should have a chifferobe on their bike. 

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q6mnvf5jCuQ/UP_57ZBzwwI/AbM/yxh3ehF8fcw/s1600/aP1180003.jpg
Even my cat likes it

On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:

 something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind 
 this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag. 
  Seriously, it directs the wind flow and  reduces the parachute effect of 
 your torso and thighs.  It was also a great place to stuff my layers as the 
 day and I both warmed up.  


 IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of 
 various set ups. ahhh - here ya go:


 http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/

 - J


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Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
That's cute. Segue-ing violently: How have any of y'all carried ~ 8 lb
animals on your bikes? I'd like to find a way to carry my trained
attack/guard Chihuahua (who pees in fright when I come to take him to the
car) on my bikes.

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 everyone should have a chifferobe on their bike.


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q6mnvf5jCuQ/UP_57ZBzwwI/AbM/yxh3ehF8fcw/s1600/aP1180003.jpg
 Even my cat likes it

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:

 something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind
 this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag.
  Seriously, it directs the wind flow and  reduces the parachute effect of
 your torso and thighs.  It was also a great place to stuff my layers as the
 day and I both warmed up.


 IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of
 various set ups. ahhh - here ya go:

 http://janheine.wordpress.com/**2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-**
 real-world-bicycles/http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/

 - J

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Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
BTW: My question is serious. I don't have and don't want a front platform
rack, but my Fargo has front low riders and a rear Logo. I suppose I could
just stuff him into the Sackville on the Riv -- he likes to burrow -- but
I'd hate to get pee stains on it.

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:40 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's cute. Segue-ing violently: How have any of y'all carried ~ 8 lb
 animals on your bikes? I'd like to find a way to carry my trained
 attack/guard Chihuahua (who pees in fright when I come to take him to the
 car) on my bikes.


 On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 everyone should have a chifferobe on their bike.


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q6mnvf5jCuQ/UP_57ZBzwwI/AbM/yxh3ehF8fcw/s1600/aP1180003.jpg
 Even my cat likes it

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:

 something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind
 this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag.
  Seriously, it directs the wind flow and  reduces the parachute effect of
 your torso and thighs.  It was also a great place to stuff my layers as the
 day and I both warmed up.


 IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of
 various set ups. ahhh - here ya go:

 http://janheine.wordpress.com/**2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-**
 real-world-bicycles/http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/

 - J

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Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread Mike
Hey Patrick, I ride with my Chihuahua Dirk in one of these:

http://www.timbuk2.com/tb2/products/mutt-mover-dog-backpack

He loves it and gets really excited when I bring it out to pedal him to 
doggy daycare.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/8123497062/

--mike



On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:40:45 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 That's cute. Segue-ing violently: How have any of y'all carried ~ 8 lb 
 animals on your bikes? I'd like to find a way to carry my trained 
 attack/guard Chihuahua (who pees in fright when I come to take him to the 
 car) on my bikes.

 On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com 
 javascript:wrote:

 everyone should have a chifferobe on their bike. 


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q6mnvf5jCuQ/UP_57ZBzwwI/AbM/yxh3ehF8fcw/s1600/aP1180003.jpg
 Even my cat likes it

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:

 something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind 
 this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag. 
  Seriously, it directs the wind flow and  reduces the parachute effect of 
 your torso and thighs.  It was also a great place to stuff my layers as 
 the 
 day and I both warmed up.  


 IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of 
 various set ups. ahhh - here ya go:

 http://janheine.wordpress.com/**2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-**
 real-world-bicycles/http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/

 - J

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[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa stretching it's 1/2 mile chainstays on Mt Diablo

2013-01-28 Thread Garth
I hope they do have both FD and RD braze ons for the frame. If I wanted 
simple ... I'd but a single speed !   You can play all you want with 
leaving off these braze ons and calling it a wonderspeed ... but really ... 
many want to use a FD on such a bike ! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
That's great -- must look it up. Tell me: does it work only with upright
bars, or will it work at a 45* back angle, as on the hoods of drop bars.

Nicco thanks you.

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Patrick, I ride with my Chihuahua Dirk in one of these:

 http://www.timbuk2.com/tb2/products/mutt-mover-dog-backpack

 He loves it and gets really excited when I bring it out to pedal him to
 doggy daycare.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/8123497062/

 --mike



 On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:40:45 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 That's cute. Segue-ing violently: How have any of y'all carried ~ 8 lb
 animals on your bikes? I'd like to find a way to carry my trained
 attack/guard Chihuahua (who pees in fright when I come to take him to the
 car) on my bikes.

 On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote:

 everyone should have a chifferobe on their bike.


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q6mnvf5jCuQ/UP_57ZBzwwI/AbM/yxh3ehF8fcw/s1600/aP1180003.jpg
 Even my cat likes it

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:

 something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind
 this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag.
  Seriously, it directs the wind flow and  reduces the parachute effect of
 your torso and thighs.  It was also a great place to stuff my layers as 
 the
 day and I both warmed up.


 IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of
 various set ups. ahhh - here ya go:

 http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-**rea**
 l-world-bicycles/http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/

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[RBW] Some bags for sale and a Moustache

2013-01-28 Thread Scot Brooks
Both Sackvilles sold and paid for. Everything else still up for grabs. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread Ron Mc
Patrick, if he likes the ride, I think he would sit just fine in a tall 
rando bag.  
Nantucket bike basket makes a big wicker pet carrier with a wire basket 
cage.  

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:58:40 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 That's great -- must look it up. Tell me: does it work only with upright 
 bars, or will it work at a 45* back angle, as on the hoods of drop bars.

 Nicco thanks you.

 On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Mike mjaw...@gmail.com javascript:wrote:

 Hey Patrick, I ride with my Chihuahua Dirk in one of these:

 http://www.timbuk2.com/tb2/products/mutt-mover-dog-backpack

 He loves it and gets really excited when I bring it out to pedal him to 
 doggy daycare.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/8123497062/

 --mike



 On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:40:45 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 That's cute. Segue-ing violently: How have any of y'all carried ~ 8 lb 
 animals on your bikes? I'd like to find a way to carry my trained 
 attack/guard Chihuahua (who pees in fright when I come to take him to the 
 car) on my bikes.

 On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote:

 everyone should have a chifferobe on their bike. 


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q6mnvf5jCuQ/UP_57ZBzwwI/AbM/yxh3ehF8fcw/s1600/aP1180003.jpg
 Even my cat likes it

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:

 something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south 
 wind this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag. 
  Seriously, it directs the wind flow and  reduces the parachute effect 
 of 
 your torso and thighs.  It was also a great place to stuff my layers as 
 the 
 day and I both warmed up.  


 IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of 
 various set ups. ahhh - here ya go:

 http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-**rea**
 l-world-bicycles/http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/

 - J

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Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks, Ron. I don't have the sort of front rack that will support a rando
bag and, also, I'd like something that I could use with different bikes. A
backpack seems to be a good idea for this.

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Patrick, if he likes the ride, I think he would sit just fine in a tall
 rando bag.
 Nantucket bike basket makes a big wicker pet carrier with a wire basket
 cage.


 On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:58:40 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 That's great -- must look it up. Tell me: does it work only with upright
 bars, or will it work at a 45* back angle, as on the hoods of drop bars.

 Nicco thanks you.


 On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Mike mjaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Patrick, I ride with my Chihuahua Dirk in one of these:

 http://www.timbuk2.com/tb2/**products/mutt-mover-dog-**backpackhttp://www.timbuk2.com/tb2/products/mutt-mover-dog-backpack

 He loves it and gets really excited when I bring it out to pedal him to
 doggy daycare.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**41335973@N00/8123497062/http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/8123497062/

 --mike



 On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:40:45 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 That's cute. Segue-ing violently: How have any of y'all carried ~ 8 lb
 animals on your bikes? I'd like to find a way to carry my trained
 attack/guard Chihuahua (who pees in fright when I come to take him to the
 car) on my bikes.

 On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote:

 everyone should have a chifferobe on their bike.


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q6mnvf5jCuQ/UP_57ZBzwwI/AbM/yxh3ehF8fcw/s1600/aP1180003.jpg
 Even my cat likes it

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:

 something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south
 wind this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag.
  Seriously, it directs the wind flow and  reduces the parachute effect 
 of
 your torso and thighs.  It was also a great place to stuff my layers as 
 the
 day and I both warmed up.


 IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of
 various set ups. ahhh - here ya go:

 http://janheine.wordpress.com/**2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-**rea*
 ***l-world-bicycles/http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/

 - J

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Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread Ron Mc
agree, that's really cool - just throwing out what I knew

On Monday, January 28, 2013 11:09:48 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Thanks, Ron. I don't have the sort of front rack that will support a rando 
 bag and, also, I'd like something that I could use with different bikes. A 
 backpack seems to be a good idea for this.




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Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread Mike
On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:58:40 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 That's great -- must look it up. Tell me: does it work only with upright 
 bars, or will it work at a 45* back angle, as on the hoods of drop bars.


It works great with upright bars, no doubt about that. I've used it when 
riding my LHT which has drop bars but they are level with the saddle. I'm 
definitely leaning more forward but I don't think there are any issues. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Great. The new Midge on the Fargo is 2 cm above the saddle.

Before I plunk down, does anyone have recommendations or suggestions for
other makes, or are there any rear panniers for dogs?

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:58:40 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 That's great -- must look it up. Tell me: does it work only with upright
 bars, or will it work at a 45* back angle, as on the hoods of drop bars.


 It works great with upright bars, no doubt about that. I've used it when
 riding my LHT which has drop bars but they are level with the saddle. I'm
 definitely leaning more forward but I don't think there are any issues.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Anecdote, illustrating how *not* to carry your pets: When I was married my
wife and I owned a tandem, to which I fixed a milk crate to carry our two
Shi Tzu, fastened down with shortened leashes. One one early ride the
female decided to take a dive over the side and ended up hanging by her
neck down the left side of the bike, kicking madly. Of course I panicked
and hit the brakes, whereupon we all fell over -- on the left side. The dog
and the wife were, luckily, not hurt, but it was close. I suffered the
usual abrasions and bruises.

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 Great. The new Midge on the Fargo is 2 cm above the saddle.

 Before I plunk down, does anyone have recommendations or suggestions for
 other makes, or are there any rear panniers for dogs?


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 On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:58:40 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 That's great -- must look it up. Tell me: does it work only with upright
 bars, or will it work at a 45* back angle, as on the hoods of drop bars.


 It works great with upright bars, no doubt about that. I've used it when
 riding my LHT which has drop bars but they are level with the saddle. I'm
 definitely leaning more forward but I don't think there are any issues.

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[RBW] FS: 61cm AHH F/F/HS/BB and 63cm Backroads Chimayo

2013-01-28 Thread Michael Williams
Hey Group,   Up for sale is a used 61cm AHH F/F/HS/BB.   Its Toyo built, if 
that means anything.  Repainted Butterscotch.  Its 'creamier' in life than 
in the photos.   definitely used, never abused.   It has some paint chips 
here an there that i covered with nail polish.   Some chainsuck chips and a 
little wear on the inside left chainstay from tire rub I guess.   I 
sometimes squeezed 42s,  so that is my only guess. There is also some 
shellac residue on the headtube and a little on the DT and TT.   Headset is 
FSA   almost brand new,  oldish BB but still is smooth.Asking $1100+ 
shipping.Would like to sell in the Bay Area if possible.   Also have a 
63cm backroads Chimayo.  All Tange double butted Tubing.   replaced the 
fork with a new one.  I still have the old one,   but the newer allowed way 
better clearance.   Rides really great  Same deal.  F/F/HS/BB   asking 
$250+shipping -Mike

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[RBW] Re: Riv Wrap Fest in Seattle

2013-01-28 Thread Ryan Ray


 Now the question is, to shellac or not to shellac? Amber shellac muddied 
 things up considerably, in my off-bike test. 


I always use clear shellac. The colors stay more true and I just like the 
way it looks.

- Ryan



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Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread Jim Mather
 On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:18 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great. The new Midge on the Fargo is 2 cm above the saddle.

 Before I plunk down, does anyone have recommendations or suggestions for
 other makes, or are there any rear panniers for dogs?

I've seen open top grocery panniers used for small dogs. But with one
that pees from fright, I would think the best option is something like
an Ortlieb, i.e., made like a dry bag so you can hose it out easily.
Or maybe that's a sign you should leave the dog at home?

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[RBW] FS : Two wheelsets....and some random items.

2013-01-28 Thread Rich Powers
Paypal personal preferred or check is fine as well.   Please contact
me if you have any questions. Shipping extra at actual cost or some
noted as included.  Feel free to combine items and make me an offer.

Some pictures at:

https://picasaweb.google.com/RichDPowers/ForSaleItems?authuser=0authkey=Gv1sRgCL2mtc7FoLavjQEfeat=directlink


 Mavic's Aksium Race wheelset $199 obo 10 spd. These are off of a race
bike and are the extra set and I no longer need them. They have about
300 easy miles on them and are as new. They are in excellent - almost
perfect as new condition. They do not include the tires or 10 sp
cassette-but could for the right price.

Road/ Cross wheel set. The rims are Sun model ME14A's black- silver
machined sidewalls. Alloy nipples and 14/15 DB Wheelsmith spokes. They
have about 1k miles on them. Straight and even tension. They are not
perfect- but pretty darn good. Rear hub has only 300 miles on it-
8/9/10 speed Tiarga hub silver with 130 mm road bike spacing. Front is
a gray Deore LX. Skewers included. One rim is missing decal- rear has
it as pictured. $120 shipped

Very nice 26 rims. 1 pair (2) Syncros 26 MTB rims  Lil' Snapper
model new-   23 mm wide
13 mm high machined sides- welded and machined seam.
 Black with silver sidewalls.  32 holes eyelets.  $48 pair.


Axiom rear trunk bag black used- great shape- $15

Terry gel women saddle-$10

Fame building parts

Eccentric bottom bracket shell  $25

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[RBW] Re: jack brown's

2013-01-28 Thread Mike Schiller
Jack Brown Greens are great tires... I'm on my 2nd set... plenty of dirt 
roads and rocky singletrack,  two flats in 3-4000 miles.  Much nicer and 
just as fast as the GB Cypress 32mm IMO.  Mine measure 34mm on my 19mm DT 
Swiss rims.  They're my favorite road tire.

~mike





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Re: [RBW] Riv Wrap Fest in Seattle

2013-01-28 Thread Philip Williamson
If there's a Bay Area harlequin wrap session, count me in!

Philip
www.biketinker.com

On Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:11:16 PM UTC-8, stonehog wrote:

 Love it - traveling wrap demos.  I get down there once a year.  I'll let 
 you know, Rene - perhaps you could host one? Of course now the Robs and 
 Bruce are ready to teach :)

 Brian


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 Those are some awesome wraps! When are you coming to San Francisco?

 Congratulations to all the artists and the master teacher!!!

 René 


 On Sunday, January 27, 2013, Brian Hanson wrote:

 This afternoon, four mad-rad RBW list members got together for a bar 
 taping fest in a Seattle garage (yes, it was raining).  Amazingly, all 
 members arrived on their bikes and carrying nothing more than bar tape, and 
 the willingness to be made a fool of by cotton tape, they learned the fine 
 art of the harlequin bar wrap.  

 We had a good time, and in the end there were 3 new diamond'd up 
 cockpits on a Saluki, Bleriot, and Bosco'd Miyata Ridge Runner Team. 
  Special thanks to Rob Harrison for his garage, and his family's patience! 
  For those that missed this round, there will be more.  I will host one in 
 a few months at my place.  

 Pics prove it happened in the rain with chickens...  
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDLXkhF


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 Seattle, WA

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[RBW] Re: Riv Wrap Fest in Seattle

2013-01-28 Thread William
Absolutely dynamite

On Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:15:14 PM UTC-8, stonehog wrote:

 This afternoon, four mad-rad RBW list members got together for a bar 
 taping fest in a Seattle garage (yes, it was raining).  Amazingly, all 
 members arrived on their bikes and carrying nothing more than bar tape, and 
 the willingness to be made a fool of by cotton tape, they learned the fine 
 art of the harlequin bar wrap.  

 We had a good time, and in the end there were 3 new diamond'd up cockpits 
 on a Saluki, Bleriot, and Bosco'd Miyata Ridge Runner Team.  Special thanks 
 to Rob Harrison for his garage, and his family's patience!  For those that 
 missed this round, there will be more.  I will host one in a few months at 
 my place.  

 Pics prove it happened in the rain with chickens...  
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDLXkhF


 Brian Hanson
 Seattle, WA


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Re: [RBW] jack brown's

2013-01-28 Thread hsmitham
Was wondering do they come in 650b? I looked at Riv's 650b tire page and no 
JB's? Looked on web nope none. I'm a newbie on 650b's.

On Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:08:12 PM UTC-8, stonehog wrote:

 I love 'em.  They offer a nice advantage in that you can get a Blue to 
 protect your back wheel (where I get most flats), and put a nice light 
 Green on the front.  Good timing as I just did a short write up on these 
 tires:


 http://stonehog.wordpress.com/2013/01/27/green-in-the-front-blue-in-the-back/

 Brian
 Seattle, WA


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 Any out there with opinions on the Browns? Either green or blue? I 
 currently ride Panaracer Pasella 35C's and like them very much, but I don't 
 have all that many miles left on them, and since Riv is running a 10% 
 discount until Feb. on the Browns, thought i might give them a try. 

 I ride mostly on pavement, and when off-road, avoid sharp rocks, so I 
 would be most interested in the Greens, it would seem. Although I would 
 like to stay as fat as 35C, 33.333 isn't that far off, is it?

 I like supple tires, no heavier than they must be to do the job. Are the 
 Brown's the ones to get?

 Thanks,

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[RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread hsmitham
Jim great article.

On Monday, January 28, 2013 7:58:27 AM UTC-8, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:

 something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind 
 this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag. 
  Seriously, it directs the wind flow and  reduces the parachute effect of 
 your torso and thighs.  It was also a great place to stuff my layers as the 
 day and I both warmed up.  


 IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of 
 various set ups. ahhh - here ya go:


 http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/

 - J


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[RBW] Re: FS: Specialized Sequoia 650b Conversion

2013-01-28 Thread jar351
Thanks for the plug, Manny (if I may call you that).

*Update: Since I've gotten no takers, she's getting parted out.* Shipped 
prices are as follows:

Frame + Fork + Headset = $240 (Add $60 for the VO rack)
Wheelset (hand-built, DB spokes, low miles) = $240
Crankset + BB (rings included) = $75
Cockpit (42cm Dreambars, 100mm Technomic stem, Tektro brake levers, wrap) = 
 $85
Brakes (shoes and pads included) = $75

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[RBW] Re: Virgin ride on my new Hilsen.

2013-01-28 Thread hsmitham


Thanks Amit, all the Riv riders photographs and various builds have 
inspired me.I always enjoy your photographs of murals with your AHH , next 
Los Angeles murals...

On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:50:04 AM UTC-8, Amit Singh wrote:

 Wow.  Beautiful bicycle!

 On Sunday, 27 January 2013 18:03:58 UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 Well after an excruciatingly long process, selling bikes, wheel sets and 
 making the decision which Rivendell bicycle to go with, color, parts… I 
 finally rode my new steed…oh yeah I did my usual over tightening and broke 
 the seat tube binder bolt. No problem rode down to Santa Barbara’s Velo-pro 
  fellow's there said is that a Masi?…new bolt rolling, here’s some 
 pictures’ for your perusal.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157632622677442/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread Paul
These things exist: http://www.pets2bed.com/site/1405195/product/FLM-02

I found one at a yard sale and haven't used it to cary a dog (mine weighs 
45 lbs) but it seems pretty stable and comes on and off the bike easily. 
Just a couple straps around the handlebars, and there is this support thing 
that just rests against the head tube.

That website has an entire category for these 
things: http://www.pets2bed.com/site/1405195/page/888771

Paul

On Monday, January 28, 2013 11:40:45 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 That's cute. Segue-ing violently: How have any of y'all carried ~ 8 lb 
 animals on your bikes? I'd like to find a way to carry my trained 
 attack/guard Chihuahua (who pees in fright when I come to take him to the 
 car) on my bikes.

 On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com 
 javascript:wrote:

 everyone should have a chifferobe on their bike. 


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q6mnvf5jCuQ/UP_57ZBzwwI/AbM/yxh3ehF8fcw/s1600/aP1180003.jpg
 Even my cat likes it

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:

 something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind 
 this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag. 
  Seriously, it directs the wind flow and  reduces the parachute effect of 
 your torso and thighs.  It was also a great place to stuff my layers as 
 the 
 day and I both warmed up.  


 IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of 
 various set ups. ahhh - here ya go:

 http://janheine.wordpress.com/**2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-**
 real-world-bicycles/http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/

 - J

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[RBW] Re: Riv Wrap Fest in Seattle

2013-01-28 Thread Rob
Hey Ryan--I did! I sent out an e-mail reminder to folks I remembered being 
on our Riv rides in case they hadn't seen it on the list. 

Oh snap...just looked...I sent it to the two *other* Seattle Ryans but not 
to you. :( Sorry about that! Next time for sure.

I'm hangin' on to my Silver shifters for another build--they are *really* 
nice. Just too far for me to reach on the Saluki, mounted on the downtube. 

Rob H. in Seattle


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[RBW] SFR Lighthouse brevet

2013-01-28 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
--Lots of Rivs and it was nice to put some faces to the names on the list.

Some highlights from my ride (I rode with my buddy Randy):

[...]

Last year, I went way too fast on the first climb up Sir Francis
Drake.  I was in my middle ring and I should have been in my granny.
Well, this year, I learned from last year’s stupidity and climbed in
my granny. That proves that even dumb animals can learn after being
beaten up.

We met a very friendly rider on a black Italian touring bike named
Manny.  He ended up pulling several of us along on the way to the
lighthouse and I was very grateful. He was a strong 68 years old after
completing 8 passes on the Alta Alpina last year. I felt like I was
80, so it was great to have a younger guy pulling me along.

[...]

The slog up Hwy 1 to Marshall was crazy windy, but Randy was strong
and did most of the work up there.  The clam chowder was divine and
tailwinds, tailwinds on the return.  Did I say tailwinds

We cruised to Fairfax and got some coffee and cookies at a nice shop
with bike racks in front.   We started a trend and several non-SFR
cyclists popped in.

We took it easy the rest of the way, since it was starting to darken,
and I was the only one with a real light. I realized that I was riding
the whole way with my dynamo light on all day, but nobody ran me over,
so I guess the extra watts of output were worth it!

Thanks to all of the volunteers, and thanks of course, to Randy who is
still my friend despite my stupidity!

Toshi in Oakland, CA

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[RBW] Re: Riv Wrap Fest in Seattle

2013-01-28 Thread Ryan Ray
Your Saluki is such a great build. A little too clean, but otherwise 
perfect. :) All the bikes looked great.


- Ryan









On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:41:08 AM UTC-8, Rob wrote:

 Hey Ryan--I did! I sent out an e-mail reminder to folks I remembered being 
 on our Riv rides in case they hadn't seen it on the list. 

 Oh snap...just looked...I sent it to the two *other* Seattle Ryans but 
 not to you. :( Sorry about that! Next time for sure.

 I'm hangin' on to my Silver shifters for another build--they are *really* 
 nice. Just too far for me to reach on the Saluki, mounted on the downtube. 

 Rob H. in Seattle


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 Hey! Next time invite me! Also, sell me your silver down tube shifters!



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Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks. I actually bought a discount Herse a couple of years ago and got a
big rack and custom bag to carry Nico, but he didn't like it and I found
that I didn't like the big front rack and front loading -- even on a Herse.
The Timbuktu looks like a very good solution since (1) I don't need a
dedicated bike setup and (2) I hear that animals feel more secure if they
are nestled against you back. (Nico is an emotional wimp, trained killer or
no.) Am planning to try it.

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Paul paulgclif...@gmail.com wrote:

 These things exist: http://www.pets2bed.com/site/1405195/product/FLM-02

 I found one at a yard sale and haven't used it to cary a dog (mine weighs
 45 lbs) but it seems pretty stable and comes on and off the bike easily.
 Just a couple straps around the handlebars, and there is this support thing
 that just rests against the head tube.

 That website has an entire category for these things:
 http://www.pets2bed.com/site/1405195/page/888771

 Paul


 On Monday, January 28, 2013 11:40:45 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 That's cute. Segue-ing violently: How have any of y'all carried ~ 8 lb
 animals on your bikes? I'd like to find a way to carry my trained
 attack/guard Chihuahua (who pees in fright when I come to take him to the
 car) on my bikes.

 On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote:

 everyone should have a chifferobe on their bike.


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q6mnvf5jCuQ/UP_57ZBzwwI/AbM/yxh3ehF8fcw/s1600/aP1180003.jpg
 Even my cat likes it

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:

 something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind
 this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag.
  Seriously, it directs the wind flow and  reduces the parachute effect of
 your torso and thighs.  It was also a great place to stuff my layers as 
 the
 day and I both warmed up.


 IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of
 various set ups. ahhh - here ya go:

 http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-**rea**
 l-world-bicycles/http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/

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Re: [RBW] Riv Wrap Fest in Seattle

2013-01-28 Thread Steve Wimberg
The bikes do look great.  Thanks for the pics.  I'm planning on trying the 
harlequin wrap this weekend.

It looks like everyone stopped the diamond pattern when they got to the bends 
in the handlebars.  Were these aesthetic choices, or is it hard to get the 
pattern correct on the bends?  Or both?

Thanks,
Steve

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Re: [RBW] jack brown's

2013-01-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 10:10 -0800, hsmitham wrote:
 Was wondering do they come in 650b? I looked at Riv's 650b tire page
 and no JB's? Looked on web nope none. I'm a newbie on 650b's.
 

In 650B those tires are known as Nifty Swifty and Maxy Fasty.



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[RBW] Re: Bikes back from paint

2013-01-28 Thread jinxed
Wow those came out nice! Good looking green hue too!

He's making some good looking stuff. 

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[RBW] Re: jack brown's

2013-01-28 Thread Ryan Ray
I remember Jan tested the Rolly/Pollys and Ruffy Tuffys and found them to 
not roll that well right? Did he ever test the Browns?

It doesn't matter much to me as the tough ones last forever and feel really 
nice but I just wanted to clarify the fast comment.

- Ryan





On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:49:34 AM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 Jack Brown Greens are great tires... I'm on my 2nd set... plenty of dirt 
 roads and rocky singletrack,  two flats in 3-4000 miles.  Much nicer and 
 just as fast as the GB Cypress 32mm IMO.  Mine measure 34mm on my 19mm DT 
 Swiss rims.  They're my favorite road tire.

 ~mike





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[RBW] Re: FT: Small Acorn Bag New, Camper Long flap

2013-01-28 Thread Ryan Ray
On Sunday I sold the small acorn, kept the camper and purchased the 
slightly larger (with dowel) acorn in black.

Thanks to everyone who proposed a trade. I'm sorry I didn't get back to 
each email.

- Ryan



On Friday, January 25, 2013 8:11:05 PM UTC-8, Ryan Ray wrote:

 I have a black camper longflap (and SQR if you want it) that I absolutely 
 love. I just picked up a tan small handlebar bag that was just what I 
 wanted: small, not floopy, nice looking. Actually the Acorn is far better 
 made than the Carradice. Anyway, after purchasing I realized I am one of 
 THOSE people who like matching-ish bike bags. I'm hoping someone will trade 
 me their green longflap (not likely) for my newish black one, or give me 
 their black small acorn handlebar bag or equivalent. Otherwise you can have 
 my acorn bag for $55 shipped. 

 Here is the longflap in action: 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanrray/8414654418/in/photostream/

 And this is the bag I have: http://www.acornbags.com/smhdlbarbag.html
  
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[RBW] Re: jack brown's

2013-01-28 Thread William
It was the Nifty Swifty that Jan measured as the slowest tire under test in 
his tire testing.  The Nifty Swifty was/is the belted version of the Maxy 
Fasty.  

On Monday, January 28, 2013 12:11:24 PM UTC-8, Ryan Ray wrote:

 I remember Jan tested the Rolly/Pollys and Ruffy Tuffys and found them to 
 not roll that well right? Did he ever test the Browns?

 It doesn't matter much to me as the tough ones last forever and feel 
 really nice but I just wanted to clarify the fast comment.

 - Ryan





 On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:49:34 AM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 Jack Brown Greens are great tires... I'm on my 2nd set... plenty of dirt 
 roads and rocky singletrack,  two flats in 3-4000 miles.  Much nicer and 
 just as fast as the GB Cypress 32mm IMO.  Mine measure 34mm on my 19mm DT 
 Swiss rims.  They're my favorite road tire.

 ~mike





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[RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread Esteban
I get it too.  Its the people.  I took your advice, Manny, cause you're 
usually hard to keep up with!  Great day - wonderful to see you out there, 
and wish I had some bionic tape to help you at the start.  Another thing to 
carry!  Lots of Rivs out there, including Benz's randolantis.

No Riv content, but some photos:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/sets/72157632630734044/

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Sunday, January 27, 2013 3:20:00 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 It only took a broken right shifter and tons of headwind to help me 
 realize it.
 The sense of camaraderie is hard to explain when it comes to a randonneur 
 event.
 Cycling as much as it's an individual sport there's a sense of teamwork 
 and hardship that you share with the the same people you see on the road 
 that makes you understand their experience in some way.

 Good start of any rides always end up with something breaking. Today? 
 Broken right shifter.
 Wasn't really that bad. I had threeish usable gears in the rear and I 
 still had my triple in the front. Figured I would deal with it some how.
 Couldn't really bother burdening people with my mechanical failure so I 
 rode mostly on my own.
 But here's the beauty of a randonneur event you never really ride on your 
 own.
 Along the way I would pick up or get picked up by great variety of people. 
 Highlights?
 Got to jokingly yell at Esteban to pick up the pace which he actually did 
 I didn't seem him on the ride again.
 Got to meet Mr.Eric Norris and picked his brain about his experience with 
 the PBP. 
 Got no sympathy from Chris who was riding the whole ride fixed.
 Got to pick up then get dropped then pick up again Doug with his bright 
 green 
 Got dropped by Gaby a numerous of times.
 Got to talk to Juliayn about the wondering healing properties of whistling.
 Got to see Joe B. and Will riding towards the lighthouse.
 Got tons of time on the road where I got to ride basically on my own and 
 marvel at how amazing it is to ride so far on my own.
 Pretty snazzy group I feel like a better rider and a better person 
 because I got to ride with such a awesome group.

 Pictures prove that hard rides to nowhere and back are still pretty nice:
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDLNf22

 -Manny I guess I'm doing this on a three speed Acosta




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[RBW] Re: jack brown's

2013-01-28 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I like the greens, but the blues feel dead to me. This could be purely 
subjective.

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[RBW] Re: jack brown's

2013-01-28 Thread Mike Schiller
kinda like the difference between a Pasela TG and non-TG. Night and day as 
far as the ride feel. 

I only got about 700 miles on the GB Cypres before the rear tire casing 
split. They are a smooth rolling tire for sure.  The JB greens are plusher 
and roll very well for me at 190 lbs


~mike




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[RBW] Some bags for sale and a Moustache

2013-01-28 Thread Scot Brooks
Handlebars, brake levers and stem are sold and paid for. Those lovely Ironweed 
panniers are still available. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread Peter Pesce
One advantage of the front-mount solution to consider is that having your 
dog in front of you will allow you to talk to and pet him/her etc and thus 
help ease any anxiety. I have trianed my 15 lb terrier to ride happily in a 
front wald basket (either rack-supported or with the wald struts -he's too 
heavy for any cantilever or hanging options) and being able to pet him and 
give him encouragement - I actually fed him small treats every few minutes 
in our first rides around the block - was a huge help in getting him 
comfortable.

-Pete in CT

On Monday, January 28, 2013 2:04:56 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Thanks. I actually bought a discount Herse a couple of years ago and got a 
 big rack and custom bag to carry Nico, but he didn't like it and I found 
 that I didn't like the big front rack and front loading -- even on a Herse. 
 The Timbuktu looks like a very good solution since (1) I don't need a 
 dedicated bike setup and (2) I hear that animals feel more secure if they 
 are nestled against you back. (Nico is an emotional wimp, trained killer or 
 no.) Am planning to try it.

 On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Paul paulgc...@gmail.com 
 javascript:wrote:

 These things exist: http://www.pets2bed.com/site/1405195/product/FLM-02

 I found one at a yard sale and haven't used it to cary a dog (mine weighs 
 45 lbs) but it seems pretty stable and comes on and off the bike easily. 
 Just a couple straps around the handlebars, and there is this support thing 
 that just rests against the head tube.

 That website has an entire category for these things: 
 http://www.pets2bed.com/site/1405195/page/888771

 Paul


 On Monday, January 28, 2013 11:40:45 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 That's cute. Segue-ing violently: How have any of y'all carried ~ 8 lb 
 animals on your bikes? I'd like to find a way to carry my trained 
 attack/guard Chihuahua (who pees in fright when I come to take him to the 
 car) on my bikes.

 On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote:

  everyone should have a chifferobe on their bike. 


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q6mnvf5jCuQ/UP_57ZBzwwI/AbM/yxh3ehF8fcw/s1600/aP1180003.jpg
 Even my cat likes it

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:

 something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south 
 wind this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag. 
  Seriously, it directs the wind flow and  reduces the parachute effect 
 of 
 your torso and thighs.  It was also a great place to stuff my layers as 
 the 
 day and I both warmed up.  


 IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of 
 various set ups. ahhh - here ya go:

 http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-**rea**
 l-world-bicycles/http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/

 - J

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[RBW] Re: jack brown's

2013-01-28 Thread john
Cyclofiend:

sorry, I should have checked the archives before posting. Thanks to all for 
their comments. I will indeed spring for a set of JB Greens!


On Sunday, January 27, 2013 7:48:38 PM UTC-8, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 I think there have been a number of threads on the Jack Browns, which 
 should all be searchable via the archives.  I know I've expounded on their 
 quality many, many times.   Hate to rehash all of that here for folks who 
 have sat through my natterings in the past.

 Short version: Greens for me.  I ride them over a variety of mixed 
 conditions, from pavement to rocky singletrack trails. It's gonna take a 
 much nicer tire to nudge me away from these.

 If you are running the Paselas which are true size, then you'll probably 
 find the JB's to be very close when mounted/inflated.  When I bought my 
 first set, I had to force myself to remount the Paselas they replaced which 
 I hadn't worn out.  Much more supple casing and for me a better profile.

 hope that helps!

 - Jim


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Re: [RBW] Re: jack brown's

2013-01-28 Thread John Bokman
Mike, thanks for the response. I have ridden Pasella tour guard and  
regular pasellas for the past several years. I noticed an immediate  
improvement in fun when I switched to regular' pasellas from the  
tour guards.  I have ordered the jack brown greens due to this need  
for fun rather than a puncture proof tire which I find no fun.


Obviously, there's a compomise inherent in any choice; were I using  
the tires for touring, I'd opt for the Panaracer Pasella with Tour  
Guard. But for every day riding, I'm looking for something more  
fun. Maybe the jack's will prove more fun even than the regular  
pasellas.


Having said all this, I've been very happy with the panaracer  
pasellas, and wonder why Riv no longer sells them. Probably pushed  
out by all those Schwalbes I don't want.

On Jan 28, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Mike Schiller wrote:

kinda like the difference between a Pasela TG and non-TG. Night and  
day as far as the ride feel.


I only got about 700 miles on the GB Cypres before the rear tire  
casing split. They are a smooth rolling tire for sure.  The JB  
greens are plusher and roll very well for me at 190 lbs



~mike



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Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread Brad


On Monday, January 28, 2013 11:40:45 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 That's cute. Segue-ing violently: How have any of y'all carried ~ 8 lb 
 animals on your bikes? I'd like to find a way to carry my trained 
 attack/guard Chihuahua (who pees in fright when I come to take him to the 
 car) on my bikes.


This thread has veered way off topic, but sometimes I ride with my 20lb dog 
in my front basket:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=iYzLPWJfqqo 


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Re: [RBW] FS: Specialized Sequoia 650b Conversion

2013-01-28 Thread Alex Zeibot
Disregard my previous email.  Found the specs in older email.
I'd like the crankset please.
Thanks!


On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Alex Zeibot veloban...@gmail.com wrote:

 Crankset and wheelset details please.
 Thanks!


 On Monday, January 28, 2013, jar351 wrote:

 Thanks for the plug, Manny (if I may call you that).

 *Update: Since I've gotten no takers, she's getting parted out.* Shipped
 prices are as follows:

 Frame + Fork + Headset = $240 (Add $60 for the VO rack)
 Wheelset (hand-built, DB spokes, low miles) = $240
 Crankset + BB (rings included) = $75
 Cockpit (42cm Dreambars, 100mm Technomic stem, Tektro brake levers, wrap)
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[RBW] Helmet recomendations

2013-01-28 Thread Jack Stewart
Hi all.  I'm looking for a new helmet for touring.  Protective of course
but not too racer like.  Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Jack

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Re: [RBW] jack brown's

2013-01-28 Thread Brad Mitchell
I was curious about the 650b thing as well.. are the Maxy Fasty's 
comparable to the JB's?



On Monday, January 28, 2013 12:10:29 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:

 Was wondering do they come in 650b? I looked at Riv's 650b tire page and 
 no JB's? Looked on web nope none. I'm a newbie on 650b's.

 On Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:08:12 PM UTC-8, stonehog wrote:

 I love 'em.  They offer a nice advantage in that you can get a Blue to 
 protect your back wheel (where I get most flats), and put a nice light 
 Green on the front.  Good timing as I just did a short write up on these 
 tires:


 http://stonehog.wordpress.com/2013/01/27/green-in-the-front-blue-in-the-back/

 Brian
 Seattle, WA


 On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:11 PM, john john...@comcast.net wrote:

 Any out there with opinions on the Browns? Either green or blue? I 
 currently ride Panaracer Pasella 35C's and like them very much, but I don't 
 have all that many miles left on them, and since Riv is running a 10% 
 discount until Feb. on the Browns, thought i might give them a try. 

 I ride mostly on pavement, and when off-road, avoid sharp rocks, so I 
 would be most interested in the Greens, it would seem. Although I would 
 like to stay as fat as 35C, 33.333 isn't that far off, is it?

 I like supple tires, no heavier than they must be to do the job. Are the 
 Brown's the ones to get?

 Thanks,

 John

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Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread William
This thread has veered way off topic

EPIC threadjacking, no question.  

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Re: [RBW] jack brown's

2013-01-28 Thread Jeremy Till
Actually, the Maxy Fasty and Nifty Swifty were the original tire to use 
this combination of width and tread pattern (same tread as the Rolly 
Polly/Ruffy Tuffy, but wider) , dating back to when first rolled out their 
650b tire line (2006?).  They rode so nice, Riv thought, Hey, we should 
make these in 700c  and thus was born the Jack Brown Green/Blue.  

On Monday, January 28, 2013 11:17:55 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 10:10 -0800, hsmitham wrote: 
  Was wondering do they come in 650b? I looked at Riv's 650b tire page 
  and no JB's? Looked on web nope none. I'm a newbie on 650b's. 
  

 In 650B those tires are known as Nifty Swifty and Maxy Fasty. 





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Re: [RBW] Re: jack brown's

2013-01-28 Thread Ryan Ray
I ride the Pasela TGs right now because I got a set in 32 brand new with my 
used Ram. Despite being slower I loved my Roughy Toughys in 28 and will 
probably order JB Blues when these Paselas wear out. I just like the idea 
of a longer lasting tire and the dead feel some talk about feels smooth 
to me. I love the smooth tread on the Riv tires too. I don't want anyone to 
think I dont like them, I just assumed they were slow due to that old Jan 
test.

I might prefer the tougher tires because I'm 6-6 190. Also, fixing flats in 
the rain is not fun to me. That probably has something to do with it too.

- Ryan




On Monday, January 28, 2013 1:43:58 PM UTC-8, john wrote:

 Mike, thanks for the response. I have ridden Pasella tour guard and 
 regular pasellas for the past several years. I noticed an immediate 
 improvement in fun when I switched to regular' pasellas from the tour 
 guards.  I have ordered the jack brown greens due to this need for fun 
 rather than a puncture proof tire which I find no fun.

 Obviously, there's a compomise inherent in any choice; were I using the 
 tires for touring, I'd opt for the Panaracer Pasella with Tour Guard. But 
 for every day riding, I'm looking for something more fun. Maybe the 
 jack's will prove more fun even than the regular pasellas.

 Having said all this, I've been very happy with the panaracer pasellas, 
 and wonder why Riv no longer sells them. Probably pushed out by all those 
 Schwalbes I don't want.
 On Jan 28, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Mike Schiller wrote:

 kinda like the difference between a Pasela TG and non-TG. Night and day as 
 far as the ride feel. 

 I only got about 700 miles on the GB Cypres before the rear tire casing 
 split. They are a smooth rolling tire for sure.  The JB greens are plusher 
 and roll very well for me at 190 lbs


 ~mike



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[RBW] FS: Nitto Moustache Bar Set Up and 44cm Nitto Noodles

2013-01-28 Thread EastBayGuy
Up for local sale is 

a nice set of Moustache Bars with Dirt Drop Stem (short) and Tektro Levers. 
Used a little over a year. Complimentary Lime Green Tape and Cork Plugs.
$100

2 sets of Nitto Noodles 44cm. Just the Bars and complimentary Tape Goo 
Moved to 48's so these Gotta Go
$50 Each

Pick up in Walnut Creek or Lafayette

Cheers

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Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread Mike
Dirk didn't like riding in the trailer but then I tried riding with him in 
a messenger bag and he seemed to like that because he was next to me that 
seemed to calm him down. I'm very happy with the bag, it's not perfect but 
works well enough. I wish there were more pockets for storing things like 
tools, tubs, dog treats, leash, etc. There is one pocket in it but if 
that's packed it pushes up against Dirk.

--mike


On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:18:45 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Great. The new Midge on the Fargo is 2 cm above the saddle.

 Before I plunk down, does anyone have recommendations or suggestions for 
 other makes, or are there any rear panniers for dogs?

 On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Mike mjaw...@gmail.com javascript:wrote:

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:58:40 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 That's great -- must look it up. Tell me: does it work only with upright 
 bars, or will it work at a 45* back angle, as on the hoods of drop bars.


 It works great with upright bars, no doubt about that. I've used it when 
 riding my LHT which has drop bars but they are level with the saddle. I'm 
 definitely leaning more forward but I don't think there are any issues. 

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[RBW] Atlantis cockpit change...

2013-01-28 Thread René Sterental
Yesterday I decided to see how the low trail Atlantis would feel with the
Grand Bois Randonneur drop handlebars that Jan so highly recommends. While
I haven't been able to get comfortable on any of my Riv bikes with Noodles
for a variety of reasons (hand  neck/shoulder pain primarily) and had
switched on all my bikes except for the Hilsen to either Bullmoose
(standard) or Bullmoose Bosco bars, as part of my research on low trail
bikes, I had come on an article by Jan where he stated that low trail bikes
handled better with narrow handlebars whereas higher trail bikes favored
wider ones. I had also heard during a fitting that if the handlebars were
too wide, they place more stress on the shoulders (don't know if it's true
or not), and have to say that I was quite intrigued by the shape and
characteristics of the Grand Bois randonneur. I had tried the wider Nitto
Rando bar on the Altantis, but hadn't quite agreed with it.
 I ordered the GB Randonneur bar from Compass Cycles (
http://www.compasscycle.com/handlebars_gb_rand.html) as a last chance
experiment with drop bars and mounted it on a 7cm Tallux stem with the
appropriate shims as apparently there isn't a 25.4 Tallux in 7 cm
available. I mounted the Tektro TRP Ultra-Ergo Road Brake Levers (
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bl6.htm?1=1CartID=1) as I like their
shape very much and proceeded to mount the whole setup and connect the
brakes. I first tested it with only the rear brake connected just in case I
found out I didn't like it at all, but the first impressions were positive
so I decided to complete the setup and tape the bars with a roll of padded
Cinelli cork tape I had lying around. This tape is quite thick and cushi,
and very comfortable. I positioned the bars almost to the full height of
the quill in the Tallux stem, but ended up lowering them slightly. Right
now the saddle is pretty much in between the top and bottom of the drops.
 I went on a 45 minute test ride around Palo Alto and Stanford University
with my son and have to say that I was extremely impressed with the new
cockpit and how the Atlantis now handled. Very light and intuitive
handling, the narrowness of the bars actually felt quite good with the low
trail handling. If I'm on the tops I'm pretty much as upright as I was with
the Bullmoose bars and if I stretch my fingers I can be totally upright. As
I move my hands along the horizontal top to the angle and then towards the
hoods and finally on the hoods, even though I continue to lean forward, it
didn't become uncomfortable or painful. I can easily place my hands on the
drops and placing them on the straight end on the drop is very comfortable.
I had not trouble on discomfort on any of these positions and found that on
all of them, the bike handled very well. I rode the bike with no bags or
any other loads other than a water bottle, and was quite surprised at how
fast I was going (compared to my usual speeds) and how agile and smooth the
bike felt. I'm sure that part of it was the added front weight that my
posture created compared to the weight distribution when using the BM/Bosco
bars, and I'm sure it also helped with the muscles involved in pedaling. I
felt I was flying and could take tight turns very easily with no apparent
effort.
 This week I'll commute on the Atlantis and see how I feel with the new
cockpit. There's no rain in the forecast, so since I haven't yet added the
fenders, I should be OK. I'll add the R14 rear rack so I can use my
SaddleSack in the back with the PlatSack on the front to carry my stuff.
 Photos of the new setup: http://tinyurl.com/bb9t843 (click next to see the
whole setup).

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Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

2013-01-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
That's why I prefaced it with the remark about the segue. I suppose I ought
to have started a new thread.

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 This thread has veered way off topic

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[RBW] Wanted: 1985 Trek 600 22.5

2013-01-28 Thread Alex
Hi folks,

I crashed and damaged my beloved 1985 Trek 600 sized 22.5 (http://
vintage-trek.com/images/trek/85TrekSport.pdf) and am looking for
another one or something similar.  I have a watch on eBay but would
also like to put the word out on this list.  If any of you know of one
for sale, please let me know.

I'd like to convert the bike to 650B as i've done before.  I would do
the conversion to my Rambouillet instead, but i don't think it would
handle well, having such a low bottom bracket.

Thanks for your attention.
Alex

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[RBW] 700 x 32 tire recommendation, please...

2013-01-28 Thread Michael
What do you use with puncture protection?

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis cockpit change...

2013-01-28 Thread Michael


 Looks like max cush on the bartape.
 I like how the logo makes it look harlequiney.
  

Looks great. Thanks for the review.
I have been thinking of going to narrower bars and appreciate 
hearing about this bar. 

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis cockpit change...

2013-01-28 Thread Michael


 Are the tops comfortable? Just wondering how the upward tilt makes them 
 feel.


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Re: [RBW] Wanted: 1985 Trek 600 22.5

2013-01-28 Thread Jim Mather
Here's a tool (there are others) that will let you search all of Craigslist:
http://www.my-craigs-finder.com/

There are a lot of nice vintage Treks still out there, so I'm sure one
will turn up.

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: 1985 Trek 600 22.5

2013-01-28 Thread Alex
A 1984 Trek 610 22.5 would also be great.  Thanks.


On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:39:10 PM UTC+13, Alex wrote:

 Hi folks, 

 I crashed and damaged my beloved 1985 Trek 600 sized 22.5 (http:// 
 vintage-trek.com/images/trek/85TrekSport.pdf) and am looking for 
 another one or something similar.  I have a watch on eBay but would 
 also like to put the word out on this list.  If any of you know of one 
 for sale, please let me know. 

 I'd like to convert the bike to 650B as i've done before.  I would do 
 the conversion to my Rambouillet instead, but i don't think it would 
 handle well, having such a low bottom bracket. 

 Thanks for your attention. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis cockpit change...

2013-01-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Max cush: Lizard Skins DSP 3.2mm. Cover it with Tressostar if you must, but
it's the cat's meow. I've now got it on 3 bikes out of 4 (2.5 on the Rivs;
the 3.2 on the Fargo). They also make a 1.7, apparently, tho' I've not seen
it -- might be just right for road use.

Narrower bars: FWIW again, check out the Grand Bois Maes parallels. I have
them on two Rivs. I suspect that the Randos -- a bit less reach and,
importantly, with the upward flare -- might be best for the Ram whose build
I am procrastinating.


On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looks like max cush on the bartape.
 I like how the logo makes it look harlequiney.


 Looks great. Thanks for the review.
 I have been thinking of going to narrower bars and appreciate
 hearing about this bar.

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[RBW] Re: Helmet recomendations

2013-01-28 Thread Jay B
Hey Jack,

I'd recommend just about any of the BMX style helmets out there.  We have 
a Nutcase, a Bell Faction, maybe a Bern, and have been happy with them all 
for any kind of 
ridinghttp://www.flickr.com/photos/jayburkhalter/6103931105/in/photostream. 
 Cheap, comfortable, full coverage, colors from plain to ridiculous.  Hard 
to beat...

-jay b.

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 Hi all.  I'm looking for a new helmet for touring.  Protective of course 
 but not too racer like.  Any suggestions?

 Thanks,
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[RBW] Re: jack brown's

2013-01-28 Thread rob markwardt
I, too, am happy to ride my Schwalbes and Tourguard tires.  My bikes
feel quite zippy to me.  I think the secret is to never try nice tires
in the first place...no idea what you're missing!

On Jan 28, 2:30 pm, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote:
 I ride the Pasela TGs right now because I got a set in 32 brand new with my
 used Ram. Despite being slower I loved my Roughy Toughys in 28 and will
 probably order JB Blues when these Paselas wear out. I just like the idea
 of a longer lasting tire and the dead feel some talk about feels smooth
 to me. I love the smooth tread on the Riv tires too. I don't want anyone to
 think I dont like them, I just assumed they were slow due to that old Jan
 test.

 I might prefer the tougher tires because I'm 6-6 190. Also, fixing flats in
 the rain is not fun to me. That probably has something to do with it too.

 - Ryan



 On Monday, January 28, 2013 1:43:58 PM UTC-8, john wrote:

  Mike, thanks for the response. I have ridden Pasella tour guard and
  regular pasellas for the past several years. I noticed an immediate
  improvement in fun when I switched to regular' pasellas from the tour
  guards.  I have ordered the jack brown greens due to this need for fun
  rather than a puncture proof tire which I find no fun.

  Obviously, there's a compomise inherent in any choice; were I using the
  tires for touring, I'd opt for the Panaracer Pasella with Tour Guard. But
  for every day riding, I'm looking for something more fun. Maybe the
  jack's will prove more fun even than the regular pasellas.

  Having said all this, I've been very happy with the panaracer pasellas,
  and wonder why Riv no longer sells them. Probably pushed out by all those
  Schwalbes I don't want.
  On Jan 28, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Mike Schiller wrote:

  kinda like the difference between a Pasela TG and non-TG. Night and day as
  far as the ride feel.

  I only got about 700 miles on the GB Cypres before the rear tire casing
  split. They are a smooth rolling tire for sure.  The JB greens are plusher
  and roll very well for me at 190 lbs

  ~mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Helmet recomendations

2013-01-28 Thread Robert Zeidler
Racer-like, in this instance, is good. More vents = cooler (literally).

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 28, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Jay B burk...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hey Jack,
 
 I'd recommend just about any of the BMX style helmets out there.  We have a 
 Nutcase, a Bell Faction, maybe a Bern, and have been happy with them all for 
 any kind of riding.  Cheap, comfortable, full coverage, colors from plain to 
 ridiculous.  Hard to beat...
 
 -jay b.
 
 On Monday, January 28, 2013 4:00:06 PM UTC-5, NWAJack wrote:
 Hi all.  I'm looking for a new helmet for touring.  Protective of course but 
 not too racer like.  Any suggestions?
 
 Thanks,
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[RBW] Quickbeam/Simple One Gearing Ranges?

2013-01-28 Thread allenmichael
Currently, I have a S1 set up simply with one in the front and one in the 
back. I'm not sure how many gear inches I have but it handles moderate 
hills in San Francisco comfortably and isn't too slow on the flats. I'm 
wondering though about whether I could set up the bike with two-in-front 
and two-in-back, put on a moderate load, and ride it as far as San Diego or 
Los Angeles from here.

Thanks in advance.

Michael Allen

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[RBW] Mark's Hub Area Rack

2013-01-28 Thread Marty
Updated photo on the email I just got. Looks great!

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: 1985 Trek 600 22.5

2013-01-28 Thread allenmichael
I have a Trek 660 from what I think is 1989. I've been calling it 56 cm, 
but looks to measure 22 from mid-crank to top of seat post. True temper 
tubing and Soria components. In San Francisco.

Michael Allen

On Monday, January 28, 2013 3:39:10 PM UTC-8, Alex wrote:

 Hi folks, 

 I crashed and damaged my beloved 1985 Trek 600 sized 22.5 (http:// 
 vintage-trek.com/images/trek/85TrekSport.pdf) and am looking for 
 another one or something similar.  I have a watch on eBay but would 
 also like to put the word out on this list.  If any of you know of one 
 for sale, please let me know. 

 I'd like to convert the bike to 650B as i've done before.  I would do 
 the conversion to my Rambouillet instead, but i don't think it would 
 handle well, having such a low bottom bracket. 

 Thanks for your attention. 
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[RBW] Re: Mark's Hub Area Rack

2013-01-28 Thread Tom Harrop
I was just on the verge of buying a Tubus lowrider, but that looks pretty 
good! I wonder if there'll be an attachment option for the lowrider 
hourglass...

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[RBW] Re: Helmet recomendations

2013-01-28 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
After a couple years of constant overheating with a Nutcase, I switched to 
a Uvex http://www.uvex-sports.de/en/cycling/cycling-products/?pNavi=11helmet. 
The Urban model I have appears to be discontinued, but there are a couple 
models in their current line up that don't look too racey but are still 
well ventilated. 
--Smitty

On Monday, January 28, 2013 1:00:06 PM UTC-8, NWAJack wrote:

 Hi all.  I'm looking for a new helmet for touring.  Protective of course 
 but not too racer like.  Any suggestions?

 Thanks,
 Jack


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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam/Simple One Gearing Ranges?

2013-01-28 Thread Jim Mather
Simple answer -- yes. For inspiration, consider Eric Norris
(campyonlyguy), who rode across the country and rode the
Paris-Brest-Paris on a QB with only one fixed gear.

I've ridden up Mt Diablo with a 32/22 on QB, and there are no climbs
that big between SF and LA. Go for it!

jim m
wc ca

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:22 PM, allenmichael allenmich...@mac.com wrote:
 Currently, I have a S1 set up simply with one in the front and one in the
 back. I'm not sure how many gear inches I have but it handles moderate hills
 in San Francisco comfortably and isn't too slow on the flats. I'm wondering
 though about whether I could set up the bike with two-in-front and
 two-in-back, put on a moderate load, and ride it as far as San Diego or Los
 Angeles from here.

 Thanks in advance.

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Re: [RBW] 700 x 32 tire recommendation, please...

2013-01-28 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Continental ultra gatorskin.  700cx32mm

I ride my triplet with my 2 kids behind me, so I don't care about
suppleness there.

Toshi

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[RBW] Re: Forward rocking vibration with long reach brakes

2013-01-28 Thread Tim Tetrault
Thanks all-

I had some luck today by straightening out the brake itself and matching 
the timing of when the pads were hitting the rim. I think I will try and 
bring the brake closer to the fork crown and might even try the Sheldon nut 
if I have no luck there.

For all that the internet is, I am so thankful for this place of cordial 
encouragement, mutual celebration, and helpful people. 

Peace-

Tim/Seattle WA/Sam Hilborne Owner

On Friday, January 25, 2013 6:13:36 PM UTC-8, Tim Tetrault wrote:

 Anybody have experience clearing up this forward rocking I have with my 
 long reach Tektros that are in the standard build for the Sam Hilborne? 
 When I brake sharply (or even if I don't and I'm just carrying weight I 
 experience this slight, singular vibration that I can feel in the 
 handlebar... the brakes are rocking forward a bit, and it is very 
 disconcerting. I took it to a mechanic I work with and he basically said 
 that it was something that happened with long reach brakes, v-brakes, 
 anything with a long arm design. I feel skeptical. 

 Thanks for your help- let me know if posting a pic of my current set up 
 would help- I gotta believe they can function better than this. 


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[RBW] Re: Helmet recomendations

2013-01-28 Thread Mike On A Bike
I am definitively unracer in all my other stylings, but I also sweat
like Patrick Ewing and I love my Giro 'Atmos'. The ventilation is
superb, and it's a great combo of minimally feeling like something is
on your head, while also appearing to be plenty protective. I tried
Nutcase once but felt like an overheated dufus, the overheated part
most significant.

On Jan 28, 7:32 pm, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.com wrote:
 After a couple years of constant overheating with a Nutcase, I switched to
 a Uvex 
 http://www.uvex-sports.de/en/cycling/cycling-products/?pNavi=11helmet.
 The Urban model I have appears to be discontinued, but there are a couple
 models in their current line up that don't look too racey but are still
 well ventilated.
 --Smitty

 On Monday, January 28, 2013 1:00:06 PM UTC-8, NWAJack wrote:

  Hi all.  I'm looking for a new helmet for touring.  Protective of course
  but not too racer like.  Any suggestions?

  Thanks,
  Jack

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Re: [RBW] 700 x 32 tire recommendation, please...

2013-01-28 Thread Robert Zeidler
+1!

Sent from my iPad

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 Continental ultra gatorskin.  700cx32mm
 
 I ride my triplet with my 2 kids behind me, so I don't care about
 suppleness there.
 
 Toshi
 
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[RBW] Re: jack brown's

2013-01-28 Thread Joe K
My Univega beater came to me with Armadillos on.  And I must confess
that in five years of city riding I have NEVER had a flat.  That's
impressive.  Also, the tires rarely even need pumping; they stay hard
for a very long time (don't ask me how).

But I've always had this nagging feeling that the bike can feel a lot
better than it does, and I blame the tires.  Pedaling this bike is
like, there's no momentum and it starts slowing the instant you stop
pedaling.  Well, I do have the lighter replacements now (a Pasela and
an older IRC Duro II in great shape) and I'm anxious to put them
on...in spite of the probable drawbacks.  I want to find out what this
bike should feel like.

Joe

On Jan 28, 7:13 pm, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I, too, am happy to ride my Schwalbes and Tourguard tires.  My bikes
 feel quite zippy to me.  I think the secret is to never try nice tires
 in the first place...no idea what you're missing!

 On Jan 28, 2:30 pm, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote:



  I ride the Pasela TGs right now because I got a set in 32 brand new with my
  used Ram. Despite being slower I loved my Roughy Toughys in 28 and will
  probably order JB Blues when these Paselas wear out. I just like the idea
  of a longer lasting tire and the dead feel some talk about feels smooth
  to me. I love the smooth tread on the Riv tires too. I don't want anyone to
  think I dont like them, I just assumed they were slow due to that old Jan
  test.

  I might prefer the tougher tires because I'm 6-6 190. Also, fixing flats in
  the rain is not fun to me. That probably has something to do with it too.

  - Ryan

  On Monday, January 28, 2013 1:43:58 PM UTC-8, john wrote:

   Mike, thanks for the response. I have ridden Pasella tour guard and
   regular pasellas for the past several years. I noticed an immediate
   improvement in fun when I switched to regular' pasellas from the tour
   guards.  I have ordered the jack brown greens due to this need for fun
   rather than a puncture proof tire which I find no fun.

   Obviously, there's a compomise inherent in any choice; were I using the
   tires for touring, I'd opt for the Panaracer Pasella with Tour Guard. But
   for every day riding, I'm looking for something more fun. Maybe the
   jack's will prove more fun even than the regular pasellas.

   Having said all this, I've been very happy with the panaracer pasellas,
   and wonder why Riv no longer sells them. Probably pushed out by all those
   Schwalbes I don't want.
   On Jan 28, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Mike Schiller wrote:

   kinda like the difference between a Pasela TG and non-TG. Night and day as
   far as the ride feel.

   I only got about 700 miles on the GB Cypres before the rear tire casing
   split. They are a smooth rolling tire for sure.  The JB greens are plusher
   and roll very well for me at 190 lbs

   ~mike

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[RBW] Re: Virgin ride on my new Hilsen.

2013-01-28 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
The murals of LA... let's see 'em. Classy bike. --Smitty

On Sunday, January 27, 2013 3:03:58 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 Well after an excruciatingly long process, selling bikes, wheel sets and 
 making the decision which Rivendell bicycle to go with, color, parts… I 
 finally rode my new steed…oh yeah I did my usual over tightening and broke 
 the seat tube binder bolt. No problem rode down to Santa Barbara’s Velo-pro 
  fellow's there said is that a Masi?…new bolt rolling, here’s some 
 pictures’ for your perusal.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157632622677442/

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Re: [RBW] Riv Wrap Fest in Seattle

2013-01-28 Thread René Sterental
I'll host it when you come to the SF Bay Area! Let me know I'm advance so I
can try to avoid a business trip if I can...

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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam/Simple One Gearing Ranges?

2013-01-28 Thread Eric Daume
I believe the QB (and by extension the SO) can handle up to an eight tooth
cog difference. So you could for instance use a 32/40 and 16/19 White
Industries hub to get four gears (I do this on my QB wannabe Surly
Crosscheck, but it's only good up to six teeth--I run 34/40 x 16/19 on that)

Eric Daume
Dublin OH

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 7:22 PM, allenmichael allenmich...@mac.com wrote:

 Currently, I have a S1 set up simply with one in the front and one in
 the back. I'm not sure how many gear inches I have but it handles moderate
 hills in San Francisco comfortably and isn't too slow on the flats. I'm
 wondering though about whether I could set up the bike with two-in-front
 and two-in-back, put on a moderate load, and ride it as far as San Diego or
 Los Angeles from here.

 Thanks in advance.

 Michael Allen

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[RBW] Riv Chica Warrior West Rocks!

2013-01-28 Thread Liesl
From one Chica Warrior to another!

I *love* it.  We Riv Chicas are fierce Warriors to reckon with.  I think we 
need our own badge or pin or patch or something so we can let everyone know 
of our Super Powers!  Riding your bike in front of a Mercedes SUV to stop 
them and then grabbing the bike carton out of their arms!  I *love* it.

Rock *on* Jenny Riv Chica Warrior West!

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[RBW] 700 x 32 tire recommendation, please...

2013-01-28 Thread Ryan Ray
Folding Panaracer pasela tour guards. Perfectly light, cushy, and puncture 
resistant, and most importantly: cheap. 

My next set will be Jack Browns or Marathon Supremes neither of which really 
are really cheap. But I rode some roughy toughies in 28 that I liked so much 
I'm going to give the JBs a try. 

This is my 3rd set of Pasela TGs, 2nd in 32mm. The one knock on them is they do 
wear out eventually.

- Ryan

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