[RBW] Re: Good candidates for a Riv-izing?

[hsmitham]

Ah ha! Infiltrated by another LHT enthusiast, just kidding Mike I agree 
with you the LHT is a great bike to Rivize and the price is right. 

Hugh

On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:30:49 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote:

 While neither lugged or having a threaded fork, a Surly LHT can be 
 Riv-ized pretty easily. The LHT has clearance for wide tires, accommodates 
 racks and fenders, and the forks have extra long steerer tubes. It's also a 
 very capable and versatile bike. Here's some pictures of my LHT:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157627290908300/

 --mike


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[RBW] Re: Introduction

[Larry H]

Takashi:

Nice pictures.  I was wondering who makes the air pump we see attached in 
several of the photos?

Also, your English is far better than most of our Japanese.

Larry

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Re: [RBW] Need a recommendation for 2-bike storage system

[Kieran J]

Good call. I was thinking the same thing - it will be the GF's Trek that 
occupies the upper position, which is smaller and not used a ton.

KJ


On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:17:22 PM UTC-4, Minh wrote:

 I don't have a specific recommendation, but a general one is to consider 
 which bike you want to hang up high.  


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[RBW] Re: Good candidates for a Riv-izing?

[Chris Lampe 2]

Another option is to start with a new frameset and build it up with the 
components he would eventually transfer over to a Rivendell.  I've been 
doing this with my old Trek hybrid and it's now an extremely comfortable 
and versatile bike.  I finally decided the frame geometry isn't right for 
me so I bought a 2012 Handsome Devil frameset (modeled after Grant's XO-1 
and the same geometry as the Bridgestone RB-T and the  Rivendell Legolas) 
that will be built up with my components.  It's not quite into riv 
territory geometrically speaking (Riv's tend to have longer chainstays, 
lower bottom brackets, slacker angles and road bike trail) but it's a big 
step in that direction compared to what I'm currently riding.I have 
high hopes for the frameset and if I like the changes then I'll know that 
I'm heading in the right direction by coveting a Rivendell bicycle.   I'm 
sort of testing the waters without having to make the substantial 
investment that is a Rivendell frameset.  
 

On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:06:34 AM UTC-5, Rick wrote:

 I know a lot of you folks have both Rivendell's and other often older 
 bikes that you have converted to the Rivendell style. (My pre-Bleriot 
 experiment was a partially successful Riv-izing of a Specialized 
 Rockhopper.)  I have a colleague interested in doing the same as a stepping 
 stone toward a possible Riv purchase, and was wondering what y'all would 
 recommend as a good frame candidate.  We have a number of fixie-oriented 
 folks in our urban environment that tend to prey on lugged steel in the 
 secondary market (no offense to these fine citizens, but their interests 
 have changed the marketplace somewhat as to particular Schwinn's, etc.), so 
 I thought I should get some help with a wider range of ideas.  
  
 Rick.


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Re: [RBW] Favorite pedals?

[Doug Williams]

I love my VP-001 Thin Gripsters!

On Friday, April 12, 2013 8:43:33 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

 Current favorites are the VP Vice and VP-001. The latter is marketed by 
 RBW as the Thin Gripsters.

 On Friday, April 12, 2013 10:25:18 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

 Me too.  Love my grip kings.  For awhile I was swapping between sylvans 
 with clips and the grip kings.  In comparison, the rat trap.clip loads all 
 through the ball of your foot.  The longer grip kings use your entire foot 
 - heel to ball, and it changes your riding position, or at least gives you 
 options to move your foot around a bit on the pedal - it's a bit like 
 changing positions on the bar.  

 On Friday, April 12, 2013 9:40:42 AM UTC-5, Fullylugged wrote:

 The Gimli Axe heads, err Grip Kings (
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/pe1.htm) are my favorite for comfort. 
 For brisker riding, I like the MKS Touring Lite or GR-9 (which really do 
 better with a clip or a power grip strap).   



 On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Tom Goodmann tgoo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I notice that bikes new and used often come without saddles and pedals, 
 and I have a pedal choice to make.  I've moved beyond clipless (carbon no 
 mas!), though not necessarily beyond clips/straps or Power Grips; riding 
 naked feels funny after so many years of being at least in clips  
 straps, but of course worth trying. Otherwise I don't know enough to make 
 discriminating choices; the MKS Sylvans on my XO-1, for instance, feel 
 fine 
 to me.  Some of your current favorites?  --Tom 

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[RBW] Re: Crank Length Question

[Matt Beebe]

Well of course there will be exceptions, but yes, you are all freaks.


On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 12:42:33 AM UTC-4, rob markwardt wrote:

 'I'd echo what others have said, that is you are supposed to dismount when 
 stopped.

 I must be a freak.  I'll dismount for a long light but for the quickies 
 I'm a tip-toer from the saddle...always thought it was pretty easy.  I 
 think I like my saddle a little lower than some but nothing excessive. 
  I've had cranks from 165-175 and it works for all of them. 

 proof...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/6040583544/in/photostream/

 Rob I am not an animal.  I am a human being!!  Markwardt 


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[RBW] Riv on Flickr

[Will M]

Hi all.  This is interesting. I was having fun quietly shooting my 
Rambouillet (with my grandfather's circa-1950 Leica lenses and 
supersaturated Fuji Velvia color slide film), and posting the images to the 
Rivendell Bicycles Flickr pool for y'all to see. Then for whatever reason 
Flickr selected one (http://flic.kr/p/ef3nDF) among the top 500 images 
uploaded on April 29, 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/explore).  Why this 
image?  I've seen better photography in the Rivendell Bicycles Flickr group 
(a big fan of sferranti's postings).

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Re: [RBW] Good candidates for a Riv-izing?

[Ron Mc]

beauty.  

On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 8:02:44 PM UTC-5, David Hays wrote:

 I certainly enjoy my Rivved lugged Miyata Triple Cross with 700x35 Paselas 
 but it's not the same as my new Homer.
 David

  
 On Apr 30, 2013, at 8:15 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Liesl,

 I love the Rived out Bike Friday.

 Hugh

 On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:10:44 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:


 Will's advice is good.  To underscore,  make sure the candidate has 
 clearances for 32+ tires and fenders; that seems to be the biggest 
 non-negotiable for Riving up a bike.  Treks and Ralieghs are good starting 
 places for older lugged bikes.  I did it to a 1986 Trek 620.

 If non-lugged frames aren't a deal-breaker, the other great company is 
 Surly, especially Long Haul Truckers.  I also Rivved up my Bike Friday, for 
 what it's worth.  photos of each attached!


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[RBW] Re: ISO Tektro or cheaper Linear long pull Interrupter Levers

[Peter Pesce]

One of the UK shops (SJS, I think) has these at a decent price. There is 
also a domestic Ebay vendor who has them every so often.

Pete in CT

On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:12:59 PM UTC-4, ccanter wrote:

 I need a set of these.  Riv used to sell the Tektros.  Searches only turn 
 up Paul levers which are supposedly either/ or.  I'm sure they are great 
 levers but the price is too steep for me.  Anyone know of a source for the 
 Tektros?  Did they quit making them? Anyone have a pair they aren't using?
 Best,
 Clyde Canter


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Re: [RBW] Riv on Flickr

[cyclotourist]

Congratulations!

Explore on flickr is a fickle thing. It takes into account a combo of page
views, plus comments and faves. Often times an image will make that top 500
through the regular bicycle groups  flickr contacts, but when when it gets
Explore, the general flickr public notices it. That's when the views grow
exponentially.

BTW, this is a really great photos as well:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/8682644620/in/photostream

Cheers,
David



On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 5:27 AM, Will M wpm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all.  This is interesting. I was having fun quietly shooting my
 Rambouillet (with my grandfather's circa-1950 Leica lenses and
 supersaturated Fuji Velvia color slide film), and posting the images to the
 Rivendell Bicycles Flickr pool for y'all to see. Then for whatever reason
 Flickr selected one (http://flic.kr/p/ef3nDF) among the top 500 images
 uploaded on April 29, 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/explore).  Why this
 image?  I've seen better photography in the Rivendell Bicycles Flickr group
 (a big fan of sferranti's postings).

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Re: [RBW] ISO Tektro or cheaper Linear long pull Interrupter Levers

[Ron Mc]

My buddy has the Cane Creek interrupters on his Dahon Tournado, and they 
work great

On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 8:42:06 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:

  Harris has the Cane Creek equivalent.  Not too pricey – certainly not 
 Paulesque.

  




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[RBW] Re: Crank Length Question

[Shoji Takahashi]

Not a freak, Rob. Many cyclers in Beantown are tip toers at stop lights. 
(Many also dismount, many also track stand.) I'll usually tip toe except at 
the really long red lights.

On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 12:42:33 AM UTC-4, rob markwardt wrote:

 'I'd echo what others have said, that is you are supposed to dismount when 
 stopped.

 I must be a freak.  I'll dismount for a long light but for the quickies 
 I'm a tip-toer from the saddle...always thought it was pretty easy.  I 
 think I like my saddle a little lower than some but nothing excessive. 
  I've had cranks from 165-175 and it works for all of them. 

 proof...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/6040583544/in/photostream/

 Rob I am not an animal.  I am a human being!!  Markwardt 


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[RBW] Re: Good candidates for a Riv-izing?

[Mike]

The only things that I'd recommend swapping out on a stock LHT would be the 
bars for a pair of Nitto Noodles.

I have a Hilsen and love it but for the past couple of months my LHT has 
been my go to bike. I sometimes wish I had gone with the 26 wheeled 
version just so the bike would be a little more different. With Schwalbe 
Mondial tires in 2.0 it would be just a tad more capable off-road although 
the lower BB might be an issue. Still, couple with 48cm wide Noodles... 
seems like it would make a great all-road hauling machine.

--mike


On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 7:38:46 AM UTC-7, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

 +1 on Surly LHT. You can get a new LHT complete ~$1300 and Riv it up. 
 Depending on the LBS, you may be able to swap out/upgrade parts (see Jim's 
 suggestions). 

 Marc at Simply Cycle swapped LHT parts to his Hunqapillar, and then sold 
 the LHT frame. A good way to do it, IMHO.

 http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2011/02/hunqapiller-has-arrived-tadatada.html



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[RBW] Re: Riv on Flickr

[Jim M.]

Great looking photo! I think yours is far higher quality than this one of 
mine that made it onto Explore: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/4689448618/

 I like to think someone at Flickr likes Riv's or reinforced main triangles.

jim m
wc ca

On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 5:27:13 AM UTC-7, Will M wrote:

 Hi all.  This is interesting. I was having fun quietly shooting my 
 Rambouillet (with my grandfather's circa-1950 Leica lenses and 
 supersaturated Fuji Velvia color slide film), and posting the images to the 
 Rivendell Bicycles Flickr pool for y'all to see. Then for whatever reason 
 Flickr selected one (http://flic.kr/p/ef3nDF) among the top 500 images 
 uploaded on April 29, 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/explore).  Why this 
 image?  I've seen better photography in the Rivendell Bicycles Flickr group 
 (a big fan of sferranti's postings).

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Re: [RBW] Re: Crank Length Question

[Peter Morgano]

I find every year that goes by I can tip toe less and less though, by the
end of the summer I will be more stretched out but for now it can lead to
some over extension of my calves. I just lowered the seat half an inch
until it feels better. If I go for a longer ride I will raise it again. Not
the best solution but hey life is about compromise.


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Shoji Takahashi
shoji.takaha...@gmail.comwrote:

 Not a freak, Rob. Many cyclers in Beantown are tip toers at stop lights.
 (Many also dismount, many also track stand.) I'll usually tip toe except at
 the really long red lights.


 On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 12:42:33 AM UTC-4, rob markwardt wrote:

 'I'd echo what others have said, that is you are supposed to dismount
 when stopped.

 I must be a freak.  I'll dismount for a long light but for the quickies
 I'm a tip-toer from the saddle...always thought it was pretty easy.  I
 think I like my saddle a little lower than some but nothing excessive.
  I've had cranks from 165-175 and it works for all of them.

 proof...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**77502424@N00/6040583544/in/**photostream/http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/6040583544/in/photostream/

 Rob I am not an animal.  I am a human being!!  Markwardt

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[RBW] Re: Crank Length Question

[bobish]

Another tip toer here. Back on topic, I wouldn't alter my crank length for this 
purpose. If you decide to try it, be mindful of any new pains creeping in 
slowly—especially in the knees.

Perry

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[RBW] Re: Good candidates for a Riv-izing?

[Rick]

Thanks for the many responses, and especially the pictures!  I'm going to 
pass it along to my colleague.
 
Rick.  

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[RBW] Re: Need a recommendation for 2-bike storage system

[George Schick]

I bought this one a few years ago for basement Winter storage for two bikes 
and I like it:

http://www.lickbike.com/productpage.php?PART_NUM_SUB='3464-05' 

However, it requires drilling holes into ceiling joists for the top bracket 
for safety, which may or may not be feasible for all applications.



On Monday, April 29, 2013 8:06:55 AM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:

 Hey there,

 I'm short on space in my apartment, and I've begun to look at the 
 horizontal hanging apparatuses to hang two bikes, one above the other. Like 
 this one:

 Swagman Hang 
 Ithttp://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/Cycling/BikeStorageRacks/PRD~5012-400/swagman-hang-it-bike-hanger.jsp

 The reviews on this particular one are mixed, but mostly positive. Anyone 
 else have experience with this style of hanging system, or have better 
 results with something else? The space I have to work with is a 5' x 9' 
 wall.

 Thanks!

 Kieran


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[RBW] Re: Riv on Flickr

[hsmitham]

Hi Will, Congratulations it's a wonderful image and transcends the bicycle, 
I think in large part because of the mood it embodies. I think organic film 
and it's controls are magical in a different sort of way to the magic of 
Digital photography. It makes me want to shoot on film again.

Hugh

On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 5:27:13 AM UTC-7, Will M wrote:

 Hi all.  This is interesting. I was having fun quietly shooting my 
 Rambouillet (with my grandfather's circa-1950 Leica lenses and 
 supersaturated Fuji Velvia color slide film), and posting the images to the 
 Rivendell Bicycles Flickr pool for y'all to see. Then for whatever reason 
 Flickr selected one (http://flic.kr/p/ef3nDF) among the top 500 images 
 uploaded on April 29, 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/explore).  Why this 
 image?  I've seen better photography in the Rivendell Bicycles Flickr group 
 (a big fan of sferranti's postings).

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[RBW] Re: Good candidates for a Riv-izing?

[Christopher Murray]

There are still NOS (new old stock) steel mountain bikes on eBay. About 4 years 
ago I bought a 1996 Trek 930 still in the box. It was $150. I put on albas, 
fenders, b17, mks pedals, and a new stem. Most of the stuff I already had- 
total cost was $200ish. An amazing bike and MUSA! The only thing that is a 
little weird is the fork is 1 1/8 threaded so stem options are limited. 

I thought this was a pretty amazing deal and has become my do anything bike. I 
often grab it instead of one of my Rivs. 

Cheers! 
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[RBW] Re: Good candidates for a Riv-izing?

[Christopher Murray]

There are still NOS (new old stock) steel mountain bikes on eBay. About 4 years 
ago I bought a 1996 Trek 930 still in the box. It was $150. I put on albas, 
fenders, b17, mks pedals, and a new stem. Most of the stuff I already had- 
total cost was $200ish. An amazing bike and MUSA! The only thing that is a 
little weird is the fork is 1 1/8 threaded so stem options are limited. 

I thought this was a pretty amazing deal and has become my do anything bike. I 
often grab it instead of one of my Rivs. 

Cheers! 
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[RBW] FS: Brooks champion b17 special brake levers

[PeterG]

nearly new (less than 25 miles on it) Brooks champion b17 special...honey 
colored $120...also have Shimano Tiagra brake levers that fit the noodle 
handlebars $35...contact me off line...Thanks

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Re: [RBW] Favorite pedals?

[PATRICK MOORE]

Back when I used clips and straps I liked the MKS GR-9 platforms (for more
casual riding in boat/moccasin-type shoes) and the MKS touring pedals (for
more grip).

The MKS top o' line track pedals (Keirin approved!!) were also very nice
but I found them too narrow for the bunion on my right foot, at least with
straight up-and-down TA Cyclotourist crank arms.

My brother loves old mtb pedals from the '80s and very early '90s and old
BMX pedals.

Now it's Shimano (accept no substitute) spds and Looks.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Crank Length Question

[PATRICK MOORE]

Odd -- but then we all are. I instinctively and without any thought or
planning whatsoever have always unclipped/slipped foot from right strap,
and slid forward off the saddle to stand over the top tube with left food
and pedal at 10 or 11 am position -- at least, when I am not trying to do a
track stand and worrying about falling over.

On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 9:01 AM, bobish bob...@gmail.com wrote:

 Another tip toer here. Back on topic, I wouldn't alter my crank length for
 this purpose. If you decide to try it, be mindful of any new pains creeping
 in slowly—especially in the knees.

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[RBW] Re: Introduction

[Takashi]

Thank you all for warm welcome!

Larry,
If you mean the silver shiny one, it's made by Meqix.
http://www.meqix.com.tw/product_list.php?id=9
I won't recommend it though; it was broken after I used it a few times.

Takashi

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Re: [RBW] Headsets and bottom brackets, sexy reliable vs. cheap reliable what's your take?

[PATRICK MOORE]

BB: I have tens of thousands of miles on several Phil bbs (and hubs) and I
don't think you can go wrong there, but while I don't share Jan's
deprecation of Phil products, I'd also consider Compass Bicycles' SKF bbs.

Headset: the only hs I had index on me was a loose ball Dura Ace hs; quite
possibly because I overtightened it and it was on a mountain bike, but --
OTOH -- I didn't treat it differently from any other mtb headset. Sample of
1, so take it for what it's worth.

The '99 Tange Rollerball and the '03 cartridge Ultegra on my Rivs are still
as new.

Segway: Is it correct, what I hear, that old Campy steel loose ball hs last
forever?

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:07 PM, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Things have a way of snowballing.

 The headset in my AR had been feeling ratchety for a while and then the
 bottom bracket started giving me the grit so I decided to give in and tear
 it down for some TLC. The good ol shimano UN53 had pooped out after
 countless miles serving umpteen bikes and the headset cup was notched as I
 expected. Since I had the frame all torn down I decided to send it off for
 a makeover while I pondered the replacement parts.

 My initial thought was to add a little chi-chi and spring for a Phil BB
 and a King headset. These are often the exemplary put them in and forget
 about it items, though they will make an initial dent (cavern) in the
 wallet.

 On the bottom bracket, I have not quite mentally committed to the Phil
 since a UN53 is less than a 4 pack of Duvel and will last 10 years like the
 last onebut for something that is completely hidden from view that Phil
 sure does have some allure! I suppose it's fair to include the weight
 savings and MUSA in the price all things considered.

 I was pretty settled on the King headset, but then decided to dig around
 in my parts bin thinking I had some 1 sets floating around. I knew I had a
 bunch of random HS parts, but wasnt sure if any were complete till I found
 this! A basically NOS Dura Ace 
 HP-7400http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/8695512917/in/photostream/lightbox/
 .

 OK so now I have perfectly usable and honestly period correct HS I could
 use on the AR, but it will obviously need more attention than a modern
 sealed setup. I have to admit I'm a bit lazy when it comes to routine caged
 bearing maintenance and I never avoid getting the bike sloppy.

 I'm curious what you guys think on the matter of old school caged bearings
 vs sealed, and boat anchor shimano BB's. And also, for those who have gone
 the full monty with a phil TI spindle...do you have any creaking issues?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Headsets and bottom brackets, sexy reliable vs. cheap reliable what's your take?

[PATRICK MOORE]

The 12K and 8K Phils on my custom Rivs are ti with aluminum cups. No
loctite, just grease and torque. Fixed gears, too, for what that's worth.
The Fargo, Ram and the earlier Trike and Sam and Diamond Back and '95 Riv
had steel.

Note: very little rain riding, though.


 When I had a Phil ti bb, it never creaked and I'm not a lightweight! Good
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[RBW] Re: Packing a bike for train/bus travel

[Takashi]

Patrick,
Sorry for being late.
I'm trying to write about packing bike, but it's hard to describe about 
bicycle (even in Japanese), and I have no idea when I can finish it.

Meanwhile, you might read the following article, in which a friend of mine 
has written in his blog about packing his bike.
It's written in Japanese, but photos will give you an idea.
http://cycling451.blogzine.jp/blog/2009/11/post_1175.html
His bike has small wheels, but it's not a folding bike, so packing it is 
not different from regular bike.
I remove fork from frame, but he doesn't, which allows him to pack quickly 
(less than 10 minutes), but he cannot pack his bike as small as mine.

But you had better contact railroad companies first, since some companies 
allow bicycle with minimal disassembling, as Jim points out.
Or not disassembling at all, as seen in Rivendell People video. (Starting 
at 22:00)
http://vimeo.com/57271334

Takashi

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Re: [RBW] Bombadil for self-defense

[PATRICK MOORE]

My brother once had a run-in on a bike with a bunch of drunk teenagers.
After being mass attacked he took his XO-2 and clubbed the principal
assailant about back and head with it, chasing him around and around the
car. He then pulled apart the driver's side window and was about to club in
the windshield when a passer by came to help. Damage was a broken rear
wheel. Peter is 4 taller and 40 lb heavier than I, and I am not very small
or unprepossessing.

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 http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jimmy_fatwing/SelfProtection/cycle.htm




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[RBW] Nice to Ride the Bombadil again..

[Kelly]

Well it's great to ride the Bombadil again.. it's just a ride like no other 
bike I have. 

I got the fenders on and then the large rear rack was to short to be 
mounted.  Trying to figure out how to or where or what to use for extenders 
to raise it. 

I need to stretch the leather on the B17 since it's making some noise.   
(hate doing that)

Have to mount the front lowrider to check clearance then cut the fender 
stays if all looks good. 

Get the E-Delux head light I loaned out back.   Get that mounted --- oops 
need rear rack solution before light mountings.

Clean up the leftover wax in places I didn't buff out. 

Little crap... but it's useless without lights. 

I did get to ride it to lunch today which was sweet.

Here it is so far. 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8698580829/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8698582937/in/photostream/

Riding for fun is the only way for me.. 

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Re: [RBW] Favorite pedals?

[Tom Goodmann]

The shoe side of SPDs offers a nice platform, and the dual-use design is
appealing; plus, the darn things just look good.  I don't know whether I'll
clip in again any time soon, all the same. The MKS touring pedals are
classics, I agree; weirdly (I admit), I've been looking at MKS folding
pedals (FD-7), which also offer a nice, flat platform at more or less the
weight of a Grip King. I'm riding the latter right now on my new Hillborne,
and love 'em.


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:25 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Back when I used clips and straps I liked the MKS GR-9 platforms (for more
 casual riding in boat/moccasin-type shoes) and the MKS touring pedals (for
 more grip).

 The MKS top o' line track pedals (Keirin approved!!) were also very nice
 but I found them too narrow for the bunion on my right foot, at least with
 straight up-and-down TA Cyclotourist crank arms.

 My brother loves old mtb pedals from the '80s and very early '90s and old
 BMX pedals.

 Now it's Shimano (accept no substitute) spds and Looks.

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RE: [RBW] Nice to Ride the Bombadil again..

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

These should work, Kelly - and they're great for a whole variety of uses.  
http://www.bikebagshop.com/tubus-extension-adapter-p-1030.html

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:59 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Nice to Ride the Bombadil again..

Well it's great to ride the Bombadil again.. it's just a ride like no other 
bike I have.

I got the fenders on and then the large rear rack was to short to be mounted.  
Trying to figure out how to or where or what to use for extenders to raise it.

I need to stretch the leather on the B17 since it's making some noise.   (hate 
doing that)

Have to mount the front lowrider to check clearance then cut the fender stays 
if all looks good.

Get the E-Delux head light I loaned out back.   Get that mounted --- oops need 
rear rack solution before light mountings.

Clean up the leftover wax in places I didn't buff out.

Little crap... but it's useless without lights.

I did get to ride it to lunch today which was sweet.

Here it is so far.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8698580829/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8698582937/in/photostream/

Riding for fun is the only way for me..

Kelly


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Re: [RBW] Nice to Ride the Bombadil again..

[Lyle Bogart]

Kelly, that is just a lovely bike! Enjoy. . .


On 1 May 2013 14:10, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.comwrote:

  These should work, Kelly – and they’re great for a whole variety of
 uses.  http://www.bikebagshop.com/tubus-extension-adapter-p-1030.html 

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 *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
 rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Kelly
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:59 PM
 *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [RBW] Nice to Ride the Bombadil again..

 ** **

 Well it's great to ride the Bombadil again.. it's just a ride like no
 other bike I have. 

 ** **

 I got the fenders on and then the large rear rack was to short to be
 mounted.  Trying to figure out how to or where or what to use for extenders
 to raise it. 

 ** **

 I need to stretch the leather on the B17 since it's making some noise.
 (hate doing that)

 ** **

 Have to mount the front lowrider to check clearance then cut the fender
 stays if all looks good. 

 ** **

 Get the E-Delux head light I loaned out back.   Get that mounted --- oops
 need rear rack solution before light mountings.

 ** **

 Clean up the leftover wax in places I didn't buff out. 

 ** **

 Little crap... but it's useless without lights. 

 ** **

 I did get to ride it to lunch today which was sweet.

 ** **

 Here it is so far. 

 ** **

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8698580829/in/photostream

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8698582937/in/photostream/

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 Riding for fun is the only way for me.. 

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Re: [RBW] Headsets and bottom brackets, sexy reliable vs. cheap reliable what's your take?

[cyclotourist]

The King HS is a perfect thing. You're going to see it every time you ride
the bike. Works perfectly, lasts forever, made in Portland. Will probably
increase re-sale value of the bike if you ever decide to move it on. Not
that much more spendy than a high end Cane Creek HS. It's a no brainer :-)

The Phil BB is a tougher call. Shimano cartridge or NOS cone style is as
good, and maybe better if you ride in the muck (Phil doesn't have seals on
the cartridge, only on the bearings themselves). That said, I have tens of
thousands of miles on them combined on different bikes with zero problems.
That's in dry SoCal though. If you want high-end plus weather resistant,
get the SKF as mentioned by others.

Cheers,
David



On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:07 AM, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Things have a way of snowballing.

 The headset in my AR had been feeling ratchety for a while and then the
 bottom bracket started giving me the grit so I decided to give in and tear
 it down for some TLC. The good ol shimano UN53 had pooped out after
 countless miles serving umpteen bikes and the headset cup was notched as I
 expected. Since I had the frame all torn down I decided to send it off for
 a makeover while I pondered the replacement parts.

 My initial thought was to add a little chi-chi and spring for a Phil BB
 and a King headset. These are often the exemplary put them in and forget
 about it items, though they will make an initial dent (cavern) in the
 wallet.

 On the bottom bracket, I have not quite mentally committed to the Phil
 since a UN53 is less than a 4 pack of Duvel and will last 10 years like the
 last onebut for something that is completely hidden from view that Phil
 sure does have some allure! I suppose it's fair to include the weight
 savings and MUSA in the price all things considered.

 I was pretty settled on the King headset, but then decided to dig around
 in my parts bin thinking I had some 1 sets floating around. I knew I had a
 bunch of random HS parts, but wasnt sure if any were complete till I found
 this! A basically NOS Dura Ace 
 HP-7400http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/8695512917/in/photostream/lightbox/
 .

 OK so now I have perfectly usable and honestly period correct HS I could
 use on the AR, but it will obviously need more attention than a modern
 sealed setup. I have to admit I'm a bit lazy when it comes to routine caged
 bearing maintenance and I never avoid getting the bike sloppy.

 I'm curious what you guys think on the matter of old school caged bearings
 vs sealed, and boat anchor shimano BB's. And also, for those who have gone
 the full monty with a phil TI spindle...do you have any creaking issues?

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[RBW] Ride Report: 3 Days in Purgatory (Canyon)

[Deacon Patrick]

All kinds of Riv. content, including my Hunqapillar, Riv-ised Treks and Jamis, 
my clothes, and a grand time on roads that were fairly technical mountain 
biking is spots and long flat dirt and sand for most of it. Enjoy!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157633380317495/

With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Ride Report: 3 Days in Purgatory (Canyon)

[Anne Paulson]

I'm wondering how you were able to keep control on the 25% descent, when it
looks so sandy. Brakes are useless if the tires don't stick to the surface.


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 All kinds of Riv. content, including my Hunqapillar, Riv-ised Treks and
 Jamis, my clothes, and a grand time on roads that were fairly technical
 mountain biking is spots and long flat dirt and sand for most of it. Enjoy!

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157633380317495/

 With abandon,
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 *www.OurHolyConception.org*

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Re: [RBW] Ride Report: 3 Days in Purgatory (Canyon)

[Deacon Patrick]

I never went fast and kept it very slow in the steep parts. It's simply a 
matter of feeling the nuances of the traction through the bike, something I 
imagine riding barefoot helps with. Tires are Schwalbe Duremes, so not 
super aggressive (by mountain bike standards), but they have some decent 
lugs on them.

Weight on the bike helps too. The parts I walked down, and watching my kids 
walk theirs down, the bikes were definitely sliding a lot. Weight of the 
rider really helped.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 1:15:24 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:

 I'm wondering how you were able to keep control on the 25% descent, when 
 it looks so sandy. Brakes are useless if the tires don't stick to the 
 surface.


 On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 All kinds of Riv. content, including my Hunqapillar, Riv-ised Treks and 
 Jamis, my clothes, and a grand time on roads that were fairly technical 
 mountain biking is spots and long flat dirt and sand for most of it. Enjoy!

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157633380317495/
  
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 *www.OurHolyConception.org*
  
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[RBW] Re: Packing a bike for train/bus travel

[Deacon Patrick]

Thank you, Takashi. I wish this was a problem I had to contend with. The 
trip we just took showed me more clearly how wimpy my brain is. My wife 
came it from a short trip to the grocery on our way out of town and the 
scents from just being around others inside clung to her and messed me up 
in the car. Took me a while to recover. If I'd gone in, I wouldn't have 
been able to do the trip at all. I can only imagine what a few hours or 
days on a train would do to me. Sardonic grin. Good thing my family loves 
to camp!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:54:40 AM UTC-6, Takashi wrote:

 Patrick,
 Sorry for being late.
 I'm trying to write about packing bike, but it's hard to describe about 
 bicycle (even in Japanese), and I have no idea when I can finish it.

 Meanwhile, you might read the following article, in which a friend of mine 
 has written in his blog about packing his bike.
 It's written in Japanese, but photos will give you an idea.
 http://cycling451.blogzine.jp/blog/2009/11/post_1175.html
 His bike has small wheels, but it's not a folding bike, so packing it is 
 not different from regular bike.
 I remove fork from frame, but he doesn't, which allows him to pack quickly 
 (less than 10 minutes), but he cannot pack his bike as small as mine.

 But you had better contact railroad companies first, since some companies 
 allow bicycle with minimal disassembling, as Jim points out.
 Or not disassembling at all, as seen in Rivendell People video. 
 (Starting at 22:00)
 http://vimeo.com/57271334

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Re: [RBW] Ride Report: 3 Days in Purgatory (Canyon)

[Scot Brooks]

Looks like a nice outing, Patrick. I'm digging the pullovers or anoraks or 
whatever those are that the wee ones are wearing, totally stylish 
adventurer look. 

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[RBW] Re: Good candidates for a Riv-izing?

[Chris Lampe 2]

I agree.  An LHT is a fantastic option to Riv out.  Pretty much the only 
reason I didn't choose a LHT was that it's head-tube angle and fork rake 
combine to give a trail measurement in the mid-60's, which is where my 
current bike is and I want a trail measurement of 60mm or less.   My bike 
originally had 74mm of trail and a new fork changed it to 66mm and it was a 
night-and-day difference for me, so high trail is definately not for me.  I 
figure I might as well drop into road bike trail measurements 
(58-62mmwhere most Riv's fall).  
 

On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:30:49 PM UTC-5, Mike wrote:

 While neither lugged or having a threaded fork, a Surly LHT can be 
 Riv-ized pretty easily. The LHT has clearance for wide tires, accommodates 
 racks and fenders, and the forks have extra long steerer tubes. It's also a 
 very capable and versatile bike. Here's some pictures of my LHT:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157627290908300/

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing

[KyleBH]

Are the new Sam geometry details available?  The Riv chart on Google docs 
has not been updated yet.



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[RBW] Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos

[Doug Williams]

 

I’m looking at getting a San Marcos from Rivendell soon. Of course, I would 
REALLY prefer a Roadeo, if only I could find another $1,300. But I digress.

As a big Rivendell fan, I have to say that the one annoying thing about the 
San Marcos is the lack of anything (other than the very small print on the 
chainstay) that mentions that it is a Rivendell. Well, we can’t do anything 
about the decals (they have clear-coat over them) but what about the 
headbadge? Couldn’t Riv put a Rivendell headbadge on the San Marcos for 
those frames purchased from Riv HQ and fully assembled by Rivendell elves 
with all parts purchased from Rivendell?

Sounds petty, I know. But reading the web, I am not the only one with this 
petty hang-up. A Rivendell headbadge could be a big incentive for people to 
buy the San Marcos from Rivendell instead of Amazon (or wherever).

I hear that a blow dryer will soften up the glue and allow the San Marcos 
headbadge to be easily removed and replaced with a Rivendell one.  J  Of 
course, I don’t know what the Riv contract with Soma might say about this.

Doug

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[RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Historically, the only bikes which have/had Rivendell headbadges were the 
custom frames or the Generation 1 Rivendells (Longlow, Road, AllRounder, 
etc... frames).  With the introduction of the Atlantis, they all had 
model-specific headbadges - e.g. Atlantis, Rambouillet, Romulus, Quickbeam. 

The headbadge for the San Marcos is SOMA-specific, though I think they are 
using different ones for most of their other models - a stylized Rising Sun 
with the SOMA logo below. The one which appears on their site. 

From the beginning, Grant was pretty clear about his role in its design, 
but also about the fact it was a SOMA Fab project.  The chainstay used to 
state explicity it was a GP design.  

Arguably, better than a headbadge, you could get the larger size and end up 
with the now-wholly-Riv-identifed double top tube - as Soma states:

The 59 and 63cm have that Rivendell double top tube to restore the 
triangulation lost with the tall top tube.

I hadn't actually seen any commentary on the web, but then again, haven't 
really sought it. 

- Jim / cyclofiend.com

On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:17:25 PM UTC-7, Doug Williams wrote:

 I’m looking at getting a San Marcos from Rivendell soon. Of course, I 
 would REALLY prefer a Roadeo, if only I could find another $1,300. But I 
 digress.

 As a big Rivendell fan, I have to say that the one annoying thing about 
 the San Marcos is the lack of anything (other than the very small print on 
 the chainstay) that mentions that it is a Rivendell. Well, we can’t do 
 anything about the decals (they have clear-coat over them) but what about 
 the headbadge? Couldn’t Riv put a Rivendell headbadge on the San Marcos for 
 those frames purchased from Riv HQ and fully assembled by Rivendell elves 
 with all parts purchased from Rivendell?

 Sounds petty, I know. But reading the web, I am not the only one with this 
 petty hang-up. A Rivendell headbadge could be a big incentive for people to 
 buy the San Marcos from Rivendell instead of Amazon (or wherever).

 I hear that a blow dryer will soften up the glue and allow the San Marcos 
 headbadge to be easily removed and replaced with a Rivendell one.  J  Of 
 course, I don’t know what the Riv contract with Soma might say about this.

 Doug


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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing

[Michael]

 The online geo Riv chart for the 52 Sam is not correct. It says the TT on 
 a 52 is 57.5, but the blueprint plan says 56.5. Mine measures about 55 in 
 person. But I am not a measuring scientist. But did it closest I could get 
 it c-c. So you cannot always assume the chart is without typos. You could 
 call Riv and double check.
 They haven't corrected the 52 TT size listed yet. Maybe cuz the new ones r 
 comin out in da next batch.
  

 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjehUKAztnO8dEFRVEYxUWpxeXNPMHZMeDZINmNUMWc#gid=0

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing

[Peter Morgano]

I believe there is a note that says for all the sloping TT bikes you have
to do a virtual top tube, not actual.


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 The online geo Riv chart for the 52 Sam is not correct. It says the TT on
 a 52 is 57.5, but the blueprint plan says 56.5. Mine measures about 55 in
 person. But I am not a measuring scientist. But did it closest I could get
 it c-c. So you cannot always assume the chart is without typos. You could
 call Riv and double check.
 They haven't corrected the 52 TT size listed yet. Maybe cuz the new ones
 r comin out in da next batch.



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Re: [RBW] Crank Length Question

[Philip Williamson]

I weigh 250 and I can trackstand for a minute or so. 
I'm going to go ride my bike, and see what I do at lights when I don't 
trackstand. I think I often just dismount, with the right foot on the 
ground, left foot on the pedal at 10am, ready to power down. On the 
kickoff, I rise up onto the saddle, and catch the right pedal with my foot 
as it comes over the top. The only downside is that the Brooks nose bolt 
might catch a back pocket, but that hasn't happened in years. 

If you want to stay on the saddle, can you tiptoe the left foot, and lean 
farther out a bit farther to get the tripod effect with less stretch? I 
need to test this myself, to see if it even makes sense.

Off to the ride the bike and eat some lunch, 
Philip
www.biketinker.com

On Monday, April 29, 2013 7:24:10 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

 The lights here are about 200 feet apart, I try to cruise to each one but 
 you need to dart out each time to not get killed by people turning. no way 
 my large body is gonna balance, Haha. 
 On Apr 29, 2013 10:12 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Or you can just cruise slower up to the lights for better timing :-) Or 
 learn how to balance on two wheels indefinitely  saw a guy do this on a 
 hellishly long signal. 

 Hugh
 Sunland, CA

  

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[RBW] Re: Riv's Design Shines Through in Hill Climb/Walk

[dougP]

If you're really going to get into bicycle adventures, and this certainly 
sounds like one, you want a bike that's easy to push.  At some point, your 
strength, skill, gearing, tires, etc., won't matter, you're gonna be 
grunting.  My Atlantis is much easier to push than my old MTB, so 
definitely the ride of choice for unknown terrain.  

dougP

On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:10:30 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 We have 4 bigger bikes: 1 Hunqapillar, 2 old Treks, one Jamis, all Riv'd 
 up. I've wondered when I've very briefly test risen the non-rib bikes which 
 differences were size being too small vs. inherent design/geometry.

 We just got back from a grand few days in Eastern Colorado mini-canyon 
 country. Camping not he rim, the trail dropped down 250 vertical feet at 
 20-25% grade (yes, I measured it). I was able to ride down most of it. On 
 our full day there we got all the bikes down to the canyon floor, rode the 
 canyon, and then I got to haul all of the bikes back up this grand steep 
 trail.

 Pushing the bikes by their handlebars as my only contact eliminated the 
 geometry of seat and pedals and I got a very direct comparison of the 
 responsiveness and feel of the bikes. The Hunqapillar simply went smooth, 
 agile, quick, willing. All the other bikes were sluggish, dull, less 
 responsive or too responsive. No doubt size difference was still a factor, 
 but the difference was striking. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Headsets and bottom brackets, sexy reliable vs. cheap reliable what's your take?

[Mike Schiller]

I've been pretty happy with the Stronglight cartridge bearing headsets, 
very light and seem pretty durable. These are not the needle bearing ones, 
those are hard to get.  I've also been using Origin8 cartridge bearing 
bottom brackets, they work well too.  I don't agree with Jim Thrill on a 
lot of things but on this we're on the same page, for once.  

What I'm really curious about is what color are you going to paint it?

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[RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos

[Minh]

What's the motiviation in this case?  Is this a case of buying a Camaro but 
wanting a Firebird?  I've seen some people complain that the model specific 
bikes don't have enough Rivendell badging either.  The Roadeo doesn't have 
an RBW badge either!


I think R`BW have been pretty consistent that only the customs get full RBW 
badging.  


On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 3:17:25 PM UTC-4, Doug Williams wrote:

 I’m looking at getting a San Marcos from Rivendell soon. Of course, I 
 would REALLY prefer a Roadeo, if only I could find another $1,300. But I 
 digress.

 As a big Rivendell fan, I have to say that the one annoying thing about 
 the San Marcos is the lack of anything (other than the very small print on 
 the chainstay) that mentions that it is a Rivendell. Well, we can’t do 
 anything about the decals (they have clear-coat over them) but what about 
 the headbadge? Couldn’t Riv put a Rivendell headbadge on the San Marcos for 
 those frames purchased from Riv HQ and fully assembled by Rivendell elves 
 with all parts purchased from Rivendell?

 Sounds petty, I know. But reading the web, I am not the only one with this 
 petty hang-up. A Rivendell headbadge could be a big incentive for people to 
 buy the San Marcos from Rivendell instead of Amazon (or wherever).

 I hear that a blow dryer will soften up the glue and allow the San Marcos 
 headbadge to be easily removed and replaced with a Rivendell one.  J  Of 
 course, I don’t know what the Riv contract with Soma might say about this.

 Doug


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[RBW] Re: Headsets and bottom brackets, sexy reliable vs. cheap reliable what's your take?

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Haha, I find it implausible that anybody would disagree with my opinions on 
bicycles!

On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:22:39 PM UTC-5, Mike Schiller wrote:

 I've been pretty happy with the Stronglight cartridge bearing headsets, 
 very light and seem pretty durable. These are not the needle bearing ones, 
 those are hard to get.  I've also been using Origin8 cartridge bearing 
 bottom brackets, they work well too.  I don't agree with Jim Thrill on a 
 lot of things but on this we're on the same page, for once.  

 What I'm really curious about is what color are you going to paint it?

 ~mike





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Re: [RBW] Nice to Ride the Bombadil again..

[Kelly]

Thanks Pudge, that is exactly what I was looking for!

Kelly

On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 1:10:54 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:

  These should work, Kelly – and they’re great for a whole variety of 
 uses.  http://www.bikebagshop.com/tubus-extension-adapter-p-1030.html 

  

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 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Kelly
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 *Subject:* [RBW] Nice to Ride the Bombadil again..

  

 Well it's great to ride the Bombadil again.. it's just a ride like no 
 other bike I have. 
  
  
  
 I got the fenders on and then the large rear rack was to short to be 
 mounted.  Trying to figure out how to or where or what to use for extenders 
 to raise it. 
  
  
  
 I need to stretch the leather on the B17 since it's making some noise.   
 (hate doing that)
  
  
  
 Have to mount the front lowrider to check clearance then cut the fender 
 stays if all looks good. 
  
  
  
 Get the E-Delux head light I loaned out back.   Get that mounted --- oops 
 need rear rack solution before light mountings.
  
  
  
 Clean up the leftover wax in places I didn't buff out. 
  
  
  
 Little crap... but it's useless without lights. 
  
  
  
 I did get to ride it to lunch today which was sweet.
  
  
  
 Here it is so far. 
  
  
  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8698580829/in/photostream
  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8698582937/in/photostream/
  
  
  
 Riding for fun is the only way for me.. 
  
  
  
 Kelly
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's Design Shines Through in Hill Climb/Walk

[Bruce Herbitter]

Pushing the bikes of others up 25% grades gives a whole new dimension to
the notion of a deacon's service...


On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:10:30 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote

  I got to haul all of the bikes back up this grand steep trail. Pushing
 the bikes by their handlebars ...

 With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Headsets and bottom brackets, sexy reliable vs. cheap reliable what's your take?

[Michael Hechmer]

I have good experience with the Cane Creek headset, and they have dropped 
the price to $65, so it's hard to see how you could go wrong there.  I have 
both PW  tange bb and they both seem to work well.  The only reason not to 
buy White is the limited lengths.  I think a lot of this depends on  where 
and how much you ride.  If you are going 10,000 + K in the NW, and riding 
long brevets or remote tours, then take Jan's advice.  I find doing 6 to 
7,000 K in VT doesn't require that hi a level of technology.  The part that 
I trade up on are: chains that don't rust (Conex 908), parts that shift 
better (good rear derailleurs; parts that combine comfort  performance 
(good tires); and parts that add comfort - bars, levers,  saddles.  I 
prefer low maintenance hubs (White) but it's not that big a deal.

Michael

On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:07:03 PM UTC-4, jinxed wrote:

 Things have a way of snowballing. 

 The headset in my AR had been feeling ratchety for a while and then the 
 bottom bracket started giving me the grit so I decided to give in and tear 
 it down for some TLC. The good ol shimano UN53 had pooped out after 
 countless miles serving umpteen bikes and the headset cup was notched as I 
 expected. Since I had the frame all torn down I decided to send it off for 
 a makeover while I pondered the replacement parts.

 My initial thought was to add a little chi-chi and spring for a Phil BB 
 and a King headset. These are often the exemplary put them in and forget 
 about it items, though they will make an initial dent (cavern) in the 
 wallet. 

 On the bottom bracket, I have not quite mentally committed to the Phil 
 since a UN53 is less than a 4 pack of Duvel and will last 10 years like the 
 last onebut for something that is completely hidden from view that Phil 
 sure does have some allure! I suppose it's fair to include the weight 
 savings and MUSA in the price all things considered.

 I was pretty settled on the King headset, but then decided to dig around 
 in my parts bin thinking I had some 1 sets floating around. I knew I had a 
 bunch of random HS parts, but wasnt sure if any were complete till I found 
 this! A basically NOS Dura Ace 
 HP-7400http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/8695512917/in/photostream/lightbox/
 .

 OK so now I have perfectly usable and honestly period correct HS I could 
 use on the AR, but it will obviously need more attention than a modern 
 sealed setup. I have to admit I'm a bit lazy when it comes to routine caged 
 bearing maintenance and I never avoid getting the bike sloppy. 

 I'm curious what you guys think on the matter of old school caged bearings 
 vs sealed, and boat anchor shimano BB's. And also, for those who have gone 
 the full monty with a phil TI spindle...do you have any creaking issues?


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[RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos

[Joe Bernard]

The San Marcos SOMA badge is different from other SOMA frames. I think it's 
way cool. 

On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 2:29:41 PM UTC-7, Minh wrote:

 What's the motiviation in this case?  Is this a case of buying a Camaro 
 but wanting a Firebird?  I've seen some people complain that the model 
 specific bikes don't have enough Rivendell badging either.  The Roadeo 
 doesn't have an RBW badge either!


 I think R`BW have been pretty consistent that only the customs get full 
 RBW badging.  


 On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 3:17:25 PM UTC-4, Doug Williams wrote:

 I’m looking at getting a San Marcos from Rivendell soon. Of course, I 
 would REALLY prefer a Roadeo, if only I could find another $1,300. But I 
 digress.

 As a big Rivendell fan, I have to say that the one annoying thing about 
 the San Marcos is the lack of anything (other than the very small print on 
 the chainstay) that mentions that it is a Rivendell. Well, we can’t do 
 anything about the decals (they have clear-coat over them) but what about 
 the headbadge? Couldn’t Riv put a Rivendell headbadge on the San Marcos for 
 those frames purchased from Riv HQ and fully assembled by Rivendell elves 
 with all parts purchased from Rivendell?

 Sounds petty, I know. But reading the web, I am not the only one with 
 this petty hang-up. A Rivendell headbadge could be a big incentive for 
 people to buy the San Marcos from Rivendell instead of Amazon (or wherever).

 I hear that a blow dryer will soften up the glue and allow the San Marcos 
 headbadge to be easily removed and replaced with a Rivendell one.  J  Of 
 course, I don’t know what the Riv contract with Soma might say about this.

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[RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I understand that GP designed the San Marcos for Soma and allowed his 
personal name to be associated with that model for a fee. In simplest 
terms, he was hired as a contractor to provide a design. Usually design 
contracts don't permit the contractor to cash his check, then slap a 
different label on the finished product, and market it under a different 
brand.

On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:17:25 PM UTC-5, Doug Williams wrote:

 I’m looking at getting a San Marcos from Rivendell soon. Of course, I 
 would REALLY prefer a Roadeo, if only I could find another $1,300. But I 
 digress.

 As a big Rivendell fan, I have to say that the one annoying thing about 
 the San Marcos is the lack of anything (other than the very small print on 
 the chainstay) that mentions that it is a Rivendell. Well, we can’t do 
 anything about the decals (they have clear-coat over them) but what about 
 the headbadge? Couldn’t Riv put a Rivendell headbadge on the San Marcos for 
 those frames purchased from Riv HQ and fully assembled by Rivendell elves 
 with all parts purchased from Rivendell?

 Sounds petty, I know. But reading the web, I am not the only one with this 
 petty hang-up. A Rivendell headbadge could be a big incentive for people to 
 buy the San Marcos from Rivendell instead of Amazon (or wherever).

 I hear that a blow dryer will soften up the glue and allow the San Marcos 
 headbadge to be easily removed and replaced with a Rivendell one.  J  Of 
 course, I don’t know what the Riv contract with Soma might say about this.

 Doug


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[RBW] Re: Headsets and bottom brackets, sexy reliable vs. cheap reliable what's your take?

[jinxed]

You guys are awesome. The comments in this thread are the exact same back 
and forth going on in my head.

Living with the male h shiny gene mutation can be difficult and it's 
nice to have a support group. 

Jim your point on the phil from a practicality standpoint hit home pretty 
square. Pun. I had flawless service from that Shimano BB for so long I cant 
even remember when I got it. Hard to argue with that. I'm glad to see some 
alternatives being mentioned too...Tange, Origin8, and I'm embarrassed I 
had never even heard of SKF. I also remembered that VO had one too. Added 
bonus is that all of those are compatible with my Park BBT-22 and save me a 
good chunk of change.

As for the headset...David hit that one on the head for me. The Dura Ace is 
cool, but my attitude on it was that it would do. It occurred to me that if 
it already had a CK HS in it, I would not be needing to replace it, nor 
would I ever consider changing it. Again difficult to argue.

So with these recent revelations and some creative financial thinking, I 
decided I had saved enough money that I should buy some VP Gripster pedals 
so I could get free shipping on a Just Ride patch. That makes 
senseright? 

@MikeI'll leave the color a surprise! Soonson.

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[RBW] Re: Riv on Flickr

[jinxed]

Your entire photo stream is pretty impressive! It doesnt surprise me in the 
slightest one of your images became popular. I am curious though...does 
flickr notify you in some way that a photo has been chosen and posted in 
popular or explore?


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Re: [RBW] Favorite pedals?

[ascpgh]

Those old '91 MB-0 OEM  Superbe Pro track-caged XC Comps with the grey 
Specialized cages and grey MKS straps?

Andy Cheatham
PIttsburgh

On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 1:25:18 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Back when I used clips and straps I liked the MKS GR-9 platforms (for more 
 casual riding in boat/moccasin-type shoes) and the MKS touring pedals (for 
 more grip). 

 The MKS top o' line track pedals (Keirin approved!!) were also very nice 
 but I found them too narrow for the bunion on my right foot, at least with 
 straight up-and-down TA Cyclotourist crank arms.

 My brother loves old mtb pedals from the '80s and very early '90s and old 
 BMX pedals.

 Now it's Shimano (accept no substitute) spds and Looks.


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Re: [RBW] Nice to Ride the Bombadil again..

[Mike Williams]

Kelly what size is your Bomba?   It is s nice!   And do you know the sizes 
in general?   Thanks.  -Mikw

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well it's great to ride the Bombadil again.. it's just a ride like no other 
 bike I have. 
 
 I got the fenders on and then the large rear rack was to short to be mounted. 
  Trying to figure out how to or where or what to use for extenders to raise 
 it. 
 
 I need to stretch the leather on the B17 since it's making some noise.   
 (hate doing that)
 
 Have to mount the front lowrider to check clearance then cut the fender stays 
 if all looks good. 
 
 Get the E-Delux head light I loaned out back.   Get that mounted --- oops 
 need rear rack solution before light mountings.
 
 Clean up the leftover wax in places I didn't buff out. 
 
 Little crap... but it's useless without lights. 
 
 I did get to ride it to lunch today which was sweet.
 
 Here it is so far. 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8698580829/in/photostream
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8698582937/in/photostream/
 
 Riding for fun is the only way for me.. 
 
 Kelly
 
 
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[RBW] Re: Headsets and bottom brackets, sexy reliable vs. cheap reliable what's your take?

[Matthew J]

Haha, I find it implausible that anybody would disagree with my opinions on 
bicycles!

And on the Internet even.  Thought everyone agreed on line.

I am curious whether you have any experience with the White Ind. Bottom 
Brackets.  As I say above, they are a cinch too install.  Wonder from the 
mechanic's perspective do they seem durable?

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[RBW] Re: Headsets and bottom brackets, sexy reliable vs. cheap reliable what's your take?

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I have no experience with WI BBs. My experience with Shimano and Tange square 
taper BBs is favorable enough that I'm no longer tempted to try $100+ 
competitors (I have used Phil in the past, but was disappointed). In the 
external bearing BB market, I think Chris King is worth the considerable 
up-charge over Shimano. This is based on my own experience destroying 2 or 3 
Shimano Hollowtech BBs in short order.

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[RBW] Toyo Hilsen, 67, and 61s

[Leslie]

Popped by Mountain Sports Ltd on my way back from the Creeper Trail today.   
Their plan is to order in some of the Soma San Marcos frames soon.

Maybe of interest to the group, they have a single top tube 67 AHH (Toyo), and 
a 61, both complete bikes.   Only one frame left, also a 61 

If interested, call (276) 466-8988 and ask for Steve or Bobby...


-L

 (Need to do a ride report from my trail ride today... That'll be a follow-up 
post...)

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Re: [RBW] Nice to Ride the Bombadil again..

[James Warren]

Beautiful, Kelly.Aren't these stout 2TT bikes with albatross bars and huge, well-rolling tires just the bomb?-Original Message-
From: Mike Williams 
Sent: May 1, 2013 6:18 PM
To: "rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com" 
Subject: Re: [RBW] Nice to Ride the Bombadil again..

Kelly what size is your Bomba?  It is s nice!  And do you know the sizes in general?  Thanks. -MikwSent from my iPhoneOn May 1, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:Well it's great to ride the Bombadil again.. it's just a ride like no other bike I have.I got the fenders on and then the large rear rack was to short to be mounted. Trying to figure out how to or where or what to use for extenders to raise it.I need to stretch the leather on the B17 since it's making some noise.  (hate doing that)Have to mount the front lowrider to check clearance then cut the fender stays if all looks good.Get the E-Delux head light I loaned out back.  Get that mounted --- oops need rear rack solution before light mountings.Clean up the leftover wax in places I didn't buff out.Little crap... but it's useless without lights.I did get to ride it to lunch today which was sweet.Here it is so far.http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8698580829/in/photostreamhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8698582937/in/photostream/Riding for fun is the only way for me..Kelly



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Re: [RBW] Nice to Ride the Bombadil again..

[Kelly]

Mike

Mine is a 64cm /older style.   I'm not sure what you mean by sizes in general.

I'm 6'5 about 225 

Kelly

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[RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos

[jpp]

I feel like they originally mentioned possibly rebadging them AMOS to 
differentiate those that were bought through them.   

On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 3:17:25 PM UTC-4, Doug Williams wrote:

 I’m looking at getting a San Marcos from Rivendell soon. Of course, I 
 would REALLY prefer a Roadeo, if only I could find another $1,300. But I 
 digress.

 As a big Rivendell fan, I have to say that the one annoying thing about 
 the San Marcos is the lack of anything (other than the very small print on 
 the chainstay) that mentions that it is a Rivendell. Well, we can’t do 
 anything about the decals (they have clear-coat over them) but what about 
 the headbadge? Couldn’t Riv put a Rivendell headbadge on the San Marcos for 
 those frames purchased from Riv HQ and fully assembled by Rivendell elves 
 with all parts purchased from Rivendell?

 Sounds petty, I know. But reading the web, I am not the only one with this 
 petty hang-up. A Rivendell headbadge could be a big incentive for people to 
 buy the San Marcos from Rivendell instead of Amazon (or wherever).

 I hear that a blow dryer will soften up the glue and allow the San Marcos 
 headbadge to be easily removed and replaced with a Rivendell one.  J  Of 
 course, I don’t know what the Riv contract with Soma might say about this.

 Doug


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[RBW] Re: Riv on Flickr

[Manuel Acosta]

What's flickr?


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Re: [RBW] Nice to Ride the Bombadil again..

[Mike Williams]

Thanks Kelly.   I meant do they go 56/60/64?-Mike

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mike
 
 Mine is a 64cm /older style.   I'm not sure what you mean by sizes in general.
 
 I'm 6'5 about 225 
 
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[RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos

[Michael]

 Just get a Sam. There is only a 325$ difference between them for the 
 frames. If you are gonna get a Riv-build, they are still only about 325 
 different total for the complete bikes. Problem solved. You can get a Riv 
 for the same price basically.
 The Sam has a much prettier curve to the fork, and better paint job too. 
 More eyelets, etc. Definitely worht waiting to save up 325 more bucks.


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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing

[Michael]

 Well the measurement shown on the blue print is 56.5. And that is from c-c 
 as shown on the print.
 So if you wanna know how long that pipe actually is, there you have it.
  

 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing

[Peter Morgano]

Instead of going by some old blueprint you could just measure it, using the
virtual TT method, of course.
On May 1, 2013 11:27 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well the measurement shown on the blue print is 56.5. And that is from c-c
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[RBW] gear cog combo change ???

[charlie]

   
   -  Just installed a HG 11-30 eight speed but used a HG 7 12 tooth cog 
   and nut in place of the tiny 11 tooth cog...any problems from doing 
   this? I run 44x34x24 chain rings and wanted a one tooth jump to my top 
   gear. I test rode it briefly and it appears to shift fine. School me 
   yo!..
   

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[RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos

[Bryan]

I would say just get the bike and put a bunch of miles on it. You'll forget 
all about the headbadge. Besides, I agree that the SOMA headbadge looks 
great. 

Bryan 

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RE: [RBW] Re: Riv on Flickr

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

I don't think so.  I had a Mystery Bike pic chosen for Explore and I only found 
out because there was a sudden flood of comments and faves, and one of them 
congratulated me on Explore.

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Your entire photo stream is pretty impressive! It doesnt surprise me in the 
slightest one of your images became popular. I am curious though...does flickr 
notify you in some way that a photo has been chosen and posted in popular or 
explore?


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Re: [RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

[BSWP]

My 1998 LongLow has always shimmied on descents - yes, I like to take my 
hands off the bars, but it was also sensed with hands on - and so I thought 
a set of the new hotness needle roller bearings would be a good thing to 
try. Placed an order, and coincidentally dropped the forks out today to get 
the canti boss fixed (by Ed Litton, in Richmond CA). Loe and behold... what 
do I see at the bottom of my headseat, but a needle roller bearing, with a 
brinnelled race.

I'll look at it all more closely this weekend.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] gear cog combo change ???

[PATRICK MOORE]

As long as the 12 catches the splines and as long as the lockring tightens
the cassette up without any play, you'll be fine. My Ram has a home-brew
14-23 7 speed with a non-small-cog 14 as the small and a spacer at both
front and back ends. Works fine.

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and nut in place of the tiny 11 tooth cog...any problems from doing
this? I run 44x34x24 chain rings and wanted a one tooth jump to my top
gear. I test rode it briefly and it appears to shift fine. School me
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv on Flickr

[cyclotourist]

Scout is the way to find out:  http://bighugelabs.com/scout.php Just enter
your flickr id and see what's happenin. *


*

Cheers,
David



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  I don’t think so.  I had a Mystery Bike pic chosen for Explore and I
 only found out because there was a sudden flood of comments and faves, and
 one of them congratulated me on Explore.

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 Your entire photo stream is pretty impressive! It doesnt surprise me in
 the slightest one of your images became popular. I am curious though...does
 flickr notify you in some way that a photo has been chosen and posted in
 popular or explore?

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[RBW] Re: Packing a bike for train/bus travel

[Andy Smitty Schmidt]

Not sure what size your Hunq is but I took my 65cm Homer to Ft Collins, CO 
last 
yearhttps://plus.google.com/photos/113148323994353762329/albums/5725877484894170945?banner=pwaon
 the Greyhound. I got it to fit into a box from my LBS but had to remove 
fenders, racks, seat, hbars, pedals, and wheels. 

FYI... I would not recommend riding the dog with any sort of scent 
sensitivities. For one leg we were next to a woman who habitually spritzed 
Old Spice to combat the bus odor. What she didn't realize was that her Old 
Spice was the bus odor. 

From the pics I've seen, camping out your back door doesn't look too 
shabby. 

--Andy


On Friday, April 26, 2013 5:55:45 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Has anyone packed their bike for travel on Amtrak or bus lines? Tips and 
 recommendations? THe whole process seems daunting (what to do with the 
 box/bag while I cycle, how to handle fenders and racks, protect the 
 derailleur, etc. I've no idea if/when I would travel this way (not sure how 
 my brain would survive the train motion and and the laundry/perfumed scents 
 of other passengers), but would love to have this as an option.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] FS: Nitto, Phil Wood, Carradice, Sugino, Campy, and more....

[Matt Gilkey]

 

OK, here we go again..

 

Hello, 

My name is Matt and I have a problem. In addition to bikes, I like bike 
parts. Parts made in America. Parts made in Japan. Oh, any parts really. 
Shiny pretty ones. And bike frames. And tires.  I like those too. So in an 
attempt to change my bicycle related hoarding ways I am clearing everything 
out. I have taken detailed pictures in an attempt to accurately show 
condition. I really want everyone to be happy with their purchases, so 
please ask questions. Everything is as pictured, as dirty or clean as 
shown. Everything in the pictures is included unless otherwise noted. 
Prices include shipping to the lower 48, which I am finding out is more 
expensive than I realized. PayPal for payment please. Please contact me off 
list at *mg...@hotmail.com* mg...@hotmail.com. Thanks for looking. 

-Nitto technomic 26.0 clamp, 10 cm $42.00

-Nitto moustache 25.4 clamp, tape residue and lots of scratches in clamp 
area $40.00

-Phil wood Bottom Bracket 108mm, approx 2,000 miles, mounting rings not 
included, $80.00

-Shimano Deore XT rear derailleur, 7 speed, very scratched but functions 
well $25.00

-Tektro Drop bar v-brake levers, $25.00

-Velo Orange front rack, $45.00

-Mafac Racer center-pull brakes with new pads, $50.00

-Shimano XT front derailleur 34.9 clamp, $25.00

-Topeak Road Master Frame Pump, rubber head is split, length 52-59cm, $30.00

-MKS tour pedals, a little beat up but spin smoothly, $20.00

-Sugino XD2 triple 170mm, 46-36-24, $85.00

-Nitto Noodle 26.0 clamp, 42 cm, $45.00

-Velo Orange City bar (I think it is the porteur model), $28.00

-Sugino XD2 175mm crank set, chain guard-40-32, will include an extra 26 
tooth inner ring $85.00

-Shimano Deore Crank set 175mm 46-36-26, $75.00

-Velo Orange Grand Cru 50.4 bcd Crank set (Version 1) 46-30 $95.00 (I found 
the second dust cap). 

-Nitto campee rear rack with hardware, smaller size for 26in wheels, never 
used, $95.00

-Phil Wood 135 mm bottom bracket, no mounting rings, Some scratches on 
shell, $75.00

-Nitto dirt drop stem 26.0 clamp, 8 cm extension, 120mm above min 
insertion, $42.00 

-Nitto dirt drop stem 25.4 clamp, 8 cm extension, 150mm above min 
insertion, $42.00

-Nitto dirt drop stem 26.0 clamp, 10 cm extension, 120mm above min 
insertion, $42.00

-Nitto periscope stem 25.4 clamp, 8 cm extension, 190mm above min insertion 
$38.00

- CampagnoloVeloce CT 10spd double crank set 170mm, 50-34, $70.00

-BM 12V Sidewall Dynamo with Lumotec Oval Plus Headlight and Securelight 
Plus Tail light with canti brake mount brackets, spare bulbs, spare wheels, 
and misc. mounting parts $75.00

-Phil wood “Rivy” wheel set with Velocity Aeroheat rims 36 spoke, includes 
IRD 13-32 7spd freewheel and suntour 13-34 7spd freewheel, built by Rich at 
Rivendell $375.00. 

-Carradice Super C front and rear panniers $300 for all four

-Campagnolo hub set 36 hole with 13-28 8 speed cassette $40.00

- Campagnolo Racing triple front and rear derailleur’s, 28.6mm front clamp 
$45.00 for both

- Campagnolo Racing Triple 170mm crank set, 50-40-28 $70.00

-Carradice Cape roll, inner pocket stitching cut to make 1 big pocket, 
$28.00

-Shimano 8spd bar end shifters, lots of shellac residue, friction or index, 
$35.00

-Hutchison 650bx32mm tires, approx 25 miles on them, great tires just 
decided to go with   Hetres, $80.00

-Bridgestone MB2 or 3 frame, unsure of the year. Had it powder coated by 
Cycle Art several years ago. Great frame, includes headset and BB. Seat 
tube = 50cm c-c, Top tube = 58cm c-c.  $325.00
- Dave Scott Centurion Ironman road frame. Tange Prestige tubing. Bottom 
Bracket not included. Seat tube = 59cm c-c, Top tube = 57cm c-c. $275.00. 
 
Link to Pictures below
 
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Re: [RBW] Ride Report: 3 Days in Purgatory (Canyon)

[René Sterental]

Great photos! Thanks for sharing.

On Wednesday, May 1, 2013, Scot Brooks wrote:

 Looks like a nice outing, Patrick. I'm digging the pullovers or anoraks or
 whatever those are that the wee ones are wearing, totally stylish
 adventurer look.

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