[RBW] Re: Front Load Failure
Great thoughts, Michael. Thanks. Interestingly, doing increments as you wonder about just sucks away the brain energy. I think the mechanism of healing is different than training but is, in fact, healing through the growth of new neural connections. I've found recovery and healing comes in bursts and plateaus. The key, it seems, is being open to God's grace and living life as fully as possible through it all. So, my rule is to avoid things that mess me up, focus on things I can do, and let the neural connections happen because of that. Then, every now and then, I do the next foolish thing, like trying to run or ride a bike, and see how it goes. So front loading weight is on the next foolish thing list, along with attending/serving at Mass, being around people no matter how scented they may be, carrying weight above my waist, driving... With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, May 5, 2013 8:43:07 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Sorry to hear the front load didn't work out. I wonder if the brain just needs time to adjust. Could you strap on the empty bag up front for starters? If that works, I wonder if you start putting one small thing in it at a time, if your brain will adjust to it over time so one day you can go full load on the front. Maybe toss in a matchbook. Something hardly noticeable weight-wise. I am not sure what the issue is with the weight on the front, but seems like you have trained yourself to do alot over the years. Good that you can do loads on the back though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
I like the 4C brand. Has taurine added, but not sugar. It replaced Propel as my mix of choice. Usually pretty inexpensive too. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 7:25 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rivsters, On long rides I notice I have a tendency to get leg cramps in my feet calf's which is usually long after the ride. I drink plenty of water as I don't like being dehydrated. I have used electrolyte solutions before but dislike the ones with sugar. So was wondering if anyone has experience with such a sugarless product. Thanks, Hugh Sunland, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Wiring Dyno Hubs
Hey Kelly, I used packing tape on my QB years ago as a quick and temporary method of attaching the wires, having tired of the wrapping and zip tie method I had been using. Well, the tape continued to work thru daily commutes in all weather and temperatures. I've since applied the method to my Bleriot and girlfriend's Betty Foy. Recommend it! Benz's use of 3M paint protection film looks pretty slick, too. I might try that next go around. -Jay B. On Sunday, May 5, 2013 12:13:29 PM UTC-4, Kelly wrote: I was thinking which tends to get me in trouble that if we can hold head badges to the bike with 3m double sided tape, then there has to be a better solution for the dyno wiring than wrapping and zip ties. I was thinking of a chrome wrapped conduit with bondo or something to hold it to the top tube. With some effort one could even run the brake cable through it as well. So that is all fine and dandy but a good piece of tape that would just go over the wire on the inside of the fork and on the underside of the top tube and that would hold we be better / cleaner / quieter / less likely to get caught on things. Ideas? Solutions? What are you doing? I just did the wrap and zip tie thing again.. hmmm.. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: anybody do yellow tape on a ahh?
I used white Newbaums with either three or four coats of amber shellac and got a similar color. http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8677503791/ David On May 5, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: I think Christopher's pic is clear shellac. Here're my bars with amber... http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/8706788289/. It's not a very good representation of the color 'cause the light is filtered through the roof. --Smitty On Friday, May 3, 2013 4:44:22 PM UTC-7, NWAJack wrote: I need to change my stem from a 100mm to a 80mm so i'm thinking of yellow cloth tape with clear shellac. Anyone have this combo? Curios how yellow it would stayand how it looks with the hilsen blue. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
+1 on Coconut water. Works for me and I actually like the taste. The commercial products are too sweet or otherwise un-tasty for my liking. David Charlotte, NC On Sunday, May 5, 2013 10:26:10 PM UTC-4, Alex Zeibot wrote: Electrolytes are for muscle fatigue, I doubt they help to reduce or prevent leg cramps. Cramps are due to the depletion or lack of potassium. My solution: coconut water. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Shaun Meehan meehan...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I like the Nuun tablets. They're portable and you just drop one in a bottle of water. They add a light flavor to the water but not overly sweet. http://nuun.com/ Shaun Meehan On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Jeff Lesperance jeff.le...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I've had a good experience with a variety of the Hammer nutrition products, including their Endurolyte product: http://www.hammernutrition.com/products/endurolytes.elt.html Yeah, I know there are plenty of homemade-type recipes out there, but this is one situation where I happily take a shortcut and have found the results I need. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:25 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Hi Rivsters, On long rides I notice I have a tendency to get leg cramps in my feet calf's which is usually long after the ride. I drink plenty of water as I don't like being dehydrated. I have used electrolyte solutions before but dislike the ones with sugar. So was wondering if anyone has experience with such a sugarless product. Thanks, Hugh Sunland, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Supernova Airsteam lights, lightly used for sale German made (2)
No takers? How bout $140.00 shipped. These are well made lights and hardly used On Monday, April 29, 2013 3:29:45 PM UTC-4, hobie wrote: Purchased new (2) Award winning German made Supernova Airstream lights around the same time last year and hardly used them. Maybe 1/2 dozen times each. Unique design that uses O-Rings and a swivel base to attached to either stem or handlebars. I used them on my Nitto Noodles. Comes with 2 O rings each, charger, original tin hardshell storage box, manuals.All original. $170 each including shipping. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Nigel Smythe Wool v. Sackville waxed Cotton SaddleSack Med.
I am upsizing my daily use saddle bag from a small Sackville SaddleSack to a medium and eyeing the Nigel Smythe wool version to appease the Scot in me. However, the Scot in me also wonders about the practicality of the wool v. the waxed cotton (which I've owned for a year and both wears well and handles all the weather thrown at it with aplomb). Anyone have experience with how the tweed handles wet and wear in direct comparison with the waxed cotton? How dry does your stuff stay inside the wool? With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org www.OurHolyConception.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] any metal fenders that will fit 700/42c tires
Anyone know of any metal fenders that will fit tires that size? Thanks -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
Nunn, works for me, no sugar. E-Load if you want some calories, has a little flavor to it. It has some sugar in it. Has anyone used SuperStarch ?, gets you carbs without the sugar. http://www.generationucan.com/super.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] any metal fenders that will fit 700/42c tires
Seth- Haven't used them personally, but Berthoud makes 700x60s in stainless steel (http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fenders.asp). Note that the 700x50s I had several years ago were disappointing. The front fender wasn't any longer than Planet Bike plastics and required a huge mudflap. Best, joe broach portland, or On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know of any metal fenders that will fit tires that size? Thanks -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: any metal fenders that will fit 700/42c tires
On my LHT, I have 60 mm Berthoud fenders over Schwalbe 50mm (45 actual) Big Apples. Plenty of clearance. David Charlotte, NC On Monday, May 6, 2013 10:14:15 AM UTC-4, Seth Vidal wrote: Anyone know of any metal fenders that will fit tires that size? Thanks -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
If you like 'em, try pickle juice or sauerkraut juice. Dilute to taste, or bring the jar! On Monday, May 6, 2013 10:15:44 AM UTC-4, Scott G. wrote: Nunn, works for me, no sugar. E-Load if you want some calories, has a little flavor to it. It has some sugar in it. Has anyone used SuperStarch ?, gets you carbs without the sugar. http://www.generationucan.com/super.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
I'm a big fan of V8. For years I had noticed other randonneurs using it and just couldn't stomach it. During last years 600k I finally bit the bullet and drank it and got the relief I needed. I got myself used to it over the following month and drank multiple bottles during a 1200k and had no issues with cramps other than at about 100k when I had gone a little too hard and fast. A friend carries a bottle of French's Mustard in his front bag and takes squeezes off that during brevets. I guess it has vinegar or something in it that provides relief from cramps. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] any metal fenders that will fit 700/42c tires
I too have the 60mm stainless steel Berthouds on big 700c tires (50mm Marathon Supremes on my Atlantis). They work great - I wouldn't want anything bigger under them, but at 42mm you should be in great shape. They're very high quality construction and coverage, too. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Seth Vidal Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 10:14 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] any metal fenders that will fit 700/42c tires Anyone know of any metal fenders that will fit tires that size? Thanks -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa - the first of a whole new horse breed?
Thanks, Mike. If a swept back bar works for me, I'd probably use friction thumb shifters, so that's not an issue. Can you say how the feel compared to the Albas? I wonder if the greater forward sweep of the Albas is not and advantage. Has anyone used the SOMA Clarence bar? On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Mike Williams mkernanwilli...@gmail.comwrote: Patrick, the Sycip Wonderbar is awesome. I have them on my QB not drilled for barend shifters though. - Mike Sent from my iPhone On May 5, 2013, at 9:18 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Jeremy -- excellent information -- answers my question exactly. Thanks a lot. I've committed to the B136, but the next stop, if that don't work, is the Albatross for sure. So now the question becomes: Albatross, or some other upright bar. Will report on the B136. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: Keven and I talked about this when I rode the Appaloosa and subsequently bought some Bosco Bullmooses for my Quickbeam. Keven reports feeling like he actually has more power on his proto-appaloosa with the upright position versus his earlier drop bar bikes. After putting the Boscos on my Quickbeam (coming from a relatively racy flat bar setup before, which kept my back much more inclined), I can report that I feel absolutely no loss of power going to full-upright, including on long, low-rpm, singlespeed climbs, which you know all about, Patrick. And in general, I feel less worn out after riding the QB with the upright position versus similar rides on the previous flat bars. I'm also amazed at how much better the view is from up there. I find myself noticing new things, new views on rides that I've done dozens of times before. I should note that at least on my Quickbeam, I do run a fairly slack seating position, with a Nitto S84 (40mm offset) seatpost on the QB's 72 deg. seat tube, so I do still have a good angle between my torso and legs even when my torso is bolt upright. As I said before, I haven't seen the Appaloosa geo, but I wouldn't be surprised if the seat tube angle were slightly slacker, like maybe 71 deg, than the more standard Riv designs. Also, don't underestimate the number of hand/back positions that are possible with these bars. If you do need a bit of back inclination, sliding your hands forward is really effective at stretching you out. On Saturday, May 4, 2013 9:38:39 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: One concern I have about using Albatross bars is that I fear that the upright position might make me lose power (and I don't have much). I always feel stronger when pushing from well behind the bb with my torso at 45* or more -- I often naturally fall into the hooks when I want a bit of power up a rise or against a wind -- the hooks are for power as much as aerodynamics. I look at old roadsters and can see that, with their hugely slack seat tubes, even sitting upright you have a large bend between hips and torso. How does this work with a steep 72* or 73* seat tube? On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Jeremy Till jerem...@gmail.com wrote: When I rode the proto, Keven made the comparison to engine placement in a sports car. Just going upright on a bike with normal chainstay length, you end up with something like an early 80's Porsche, with the engine hanging out over the rear wheels, making the front end of the car light. In bikes, this becomes a problem for attacking steep climbs, since the front wheel won't stay planted. According to Keven, extending the chainstays helps make things more balanced in turn and allows you to stay upright with your butt planted in the saddle on climbs, rather than lean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post
[RBW] Re: Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
Water and sodium loss (sweat) are the most common cause of leg cramps in cyclists here is a good article: http://www.medicinenet.com/muscle_cramps/page2.htm I have gotten them after long rides on hot days. Drink plenty of water and intake salt. Salty foods or even something as simple as the salt packets free at restaurants, are all you need. My wife is a pharmacist and she looked at the contents of my $20 bottle of Hammer Endurolutes and said just take table salt, It also contains small amounts Calcium 5%DV, magnesium 6%Dv, Potassium 1%DV, Vitamin B6 333%DV and Manganese 80%DV, per capsule. They recommend 1-3 caps per hour during exercise in hot weather. I like Eddie Merckx's favorite food Bananas (lots of potassium) Tom Dusky Detroit Ranndonneurs On Sunday, May 5, 2013 8:25:34 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote: Hi Rivsters, On long rides I notice I have a tendency to get leg cramps in my feet calf's which is usually long after the ride. I drink plenty of water as I don't like being dehydrated. I have used electrolyte solutions before but dislike the ones with sugar. So was wondering if anyone has experience with such a sugarless product. Thanks, Hugh Sunland, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] any metal fenders that will fit 700/42c tires
On Mon, 2013-05-06 at 14:58 +, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote: I too have the 60mm stainless steel Berthouds on big 700c tires (50mm Marathon Supremes on my Atlantis). They work great – I wouldn’t want anything bigger under them, but at 42mm you should be in great shape. They’re very high quality construction and coverage, too. I just noticed - you said 700C. The Honjo's I posted are all for 650B. Not at all sure if they'll fit. Sorry about that. There is another issue, one I encountered with mounting those Honjos on my Saluki: not all bikes have chain stays that will properly fit a 42mm wide tire. In my case, I had to cut the portion of the fender that fit through the chain stays at the bridge to make them fit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa - the first of a whole new horse breed?
Id say more hand postions on the Alba due to the curve, pretty good climbing postion. Not as man hand postions on the Wonderbar. Wha tI like about the Wonderbar is that its a bit more 'flared'?, but only slightly, which seems to feel best on dirt. Id also say that thumb shifters would be a squeeze, theres not a whole lot of room. Seems that the Wonderbar might be a designated singlespeeder. hope this helps. -Mike On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:59 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Mike. If a swept back bar works for me, I'd probably use friction thumb shifters, so that's not an issue. Can you say how the feel compared to the Albas? I wonder if the greater forward sweep of the Albas is not and advantage. Has anyone used the SOMA Clarence bar? On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Mike Williams mkernanwilli...@gmail.comwrote: Patrick, the Sycip Wonderbar is awesome. I have them on my QB not drilled for barend shifters though. - Mike Sent from my iPhone On May 5, 2013, at 9:18 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Jeremy -- excellent information -- answers my question exactly. Thanks a lot. I've committed to the B136, but the next stop, if that don't work, is the Albatross for sure. So now the question becomes: Albatross, or some other upright bar. Will report on the B136. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.comwrote: Keven and I talked about this when I rode the Appaloosa and subsequently bought some Bosco Bullmooses for my Quickbeam. Keven reports feeling like he actually has more power on his proto-appaloosa with the upright position versus his earlier drop bar bikes. After putting the Boscos on my Quickbeam (coming from a relatively racy flat bar setup before, which kept my back much more inclined), I can report that I feel absolutely no loss of power going to full-upright, including on long, low-rpm, singlespeed climbs, which you know all about, Patrick. And in general, I feel less worn out after riding the QB with the upright position versus similar rides on the previous flat bars. I'm also amazed at how much better the view is from up there. I find myself noticing new things, new views on rides that I've done dozens of times before. I should note that at least on my Quickbeam, I do run a fairly slack seating position, with a Nitto S84 (40mm offset) seatpost on the QB's 72 deg. seat tube, so I do still have a good angle between my torso and legs even when my torso is bolt upright. As I said before, I haven't seen the Appaloosa geo, but I wouldn't be surprised if the seat tube angle were slightly slacker, like maybe 71 deg, than the more standard Riv designs. Also, don't underestimate the number of hand/back positions that are possible with these bars. If you do need a bit of back inclination, sliding your hands forward is really effective at stretching you out. On Saturday, May 4, 2013 9:38:39 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: One concern I have about using Albatross bars is that I fear that the upright position might make me lose power (and I don't have much). I always feel stronger when pushing from well behind the bb with my torso at 45* or more -- I often naturally fall into the hooks when I want a bit of power up a rise or against a wind -- the hooks are for power as much as aerodynamics. I look at old roadsters and can see that, with their hugely slack seat tubes, even sitting upright you have a large bend between hips and torso. How does this work with a steep 72* or 73* seat tube? On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Jeremy Till jerem...@gmail.comwrote: When I rode the proto, Keven made the comparison to engine placement in a sports car. Just going upright on a bike with normal chainstay length, you end up with something like an early 80's Porsche, with the engine hanging out over the rear wheels, making the front end of the car light. In bikes, this becomes a problem for attacking steep climbs, since the front wheel won't stay planted. According to Keven, extending the chainstays helps make things more balanced in turn and allows you to stay upright with your butt planted in the saddle on climbs, rather than lean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
[RBW] Re: Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
I second Hammer products. Cramps are indeed due to inadequate water and loss of electrolytes. I've used both their pill form (for a 100 mile non-stop kayak racesnd the training) and have switched to the the fizz tablet that dissolves in water this year. Just add to your bladder or water bottle. I take a supplement for any exercise over 2 hours. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saturday Sam
Rene the SF Bay trail is on roads a section from the dumbarton bridge to the San Mateo bridge, but from there north almost ALL on a multi-use path until High st. Also take a look at trails that parallel Redwood rd; from Hayward to Berkeley you can ride all off-road. Plus it's beautiful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Where to get a replacement old school MTB fork?
I have one in my basement 1 with 5.6 length you and have for $10 plus shipping chrome molly. Will send photos if interested On Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55:03 PM UTC-5, Fully Lugged wrote: Wonder if anyone on the lists has a suggestion. A local rider needs a new fork for his steel non-shock absorber frame MTB. It's actually used as a heavy duty road hauler, but that's another story. Needs to be threaded, old school. I suggested he try Surly. The Riv forks are 700 iirc. Other ideas? Thanks in advance. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Show me your overstuffed Small Sackville Saddlesack
One vote for the large. I always carry tools, rain gear (top+bottom), locks, and still have room for work stuff and groceries. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
I had the same type of cramping as you. Hours after cycling usually in the evening I used to get these very painful cramps in either leg that left me unable to do anything. Someone told me about Ultima Replenisher with zero sugar. It is a powder and I mix 3 scoops per water bottle and no more cramps. Check out their web site. ultimareplenisher.com I have found that Grape and Red Raspberry taste best. John Sent from my iPad On 2013-05-05, at 5:25 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rivsters, On long rides I notice I have a tendency to get leg cramps in my feet calf's which is usually long after the ride. I drink plenty of water as I don't like being dehydrated. I have used electrolyte solutions before but dislike the ones with sugar. So was wondering if anyone has experience with such a sugarless product. Thanks, Hugh Sunland, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Cinco de Mayo Ride
Sign me up, just for the alliteration. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: derailleur install trouble on new protovelo
On Sunday, May 5, 2013 12:06:40 AM UTC+10, jandrews_nyc wrote: Hi, I recently purchased a Riv prototype frameset that was listed on the site a few weeks ago. I'm building it up as a speedy roady bike as my Hillborne is heavy duty cargo carrier at this point. I'm having trouble this morning installing the rear derailleur. The bolt just doesn't want to thread into the derailleur hanger. Has anyone experienced this before. It's an Sram apex rear der. Am I missing something? I can't imagine the threads wouldn't be compatible. thanks in advance for your advice *http://tinyurl.com/dxuvjgz* * * That paint looks like a Soma San Marcos -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] any metal fenders that will fit 700/42c tires
Another option is the VO Zeppelins, http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/fenders/fender-sets/vo-polished-52mm-zeppelin-fenders-700c.html I used them with 700 x 47 Schwalbe Marathons (about 44 mm actual) on a Cross-Check, worked pretty well. On Monday, May 6, 2013 10:05:49 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Mon, 2013-05-06 at 14:58 +, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote: I too have the 60mm stainless steel Berthouds on big 700c tires (50mm Marathon Supremes on my Atlantis). They work great – I wouldn’t want anything bigger under them, but at 42mm you should be in great shape. They’re very high quality construction and coverage, too. I just noticed - you said 700C. The Honjo's I posted are all for 650B. Not at all sure if they'll fit. Sorry about that. There is another issue, one I encountered with mounting those Honjos on my Saluki: not all bikes have chain stays that will properly fit a 42mm wide tire. In my case, I had to cut the portion of the fender that fit through the chain stays at the bridge to make them fit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Wiring Dyno Hubs
I've wanted to (but haven't actually done it yet) use heat shrink tubing. A couple pieces at end points on the fork, one long piece to the rear brake cable, another around the cable housing, etc. Cheers, -Allan On Sunday, May 5, 2013 9:13:29 AM UTC-7, Kelly wrote: I was thinking which tends to get me in trouble that if we can hold head badges to the bike with 3m double sided tape, then there has to be a better solution for the dyno wiring than wrapping and zip ties. I was thinking of a chrome wrapped conduit with bondo or something to hold it to the top tube. With some effort one could even run the brake cable through it as well. So that is all fine and dandy but a good piece of tape that would just go over the wire on the inside of the fork and on the underside of the top tube and that would hold we be better / cleaner / quieter / less likely to get caught on things. Ideas? Solutions? What are you doing? I just did the wrap and zip tie thing again.. hmmm.. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
Suggest you try Vitalyte. It's not too well known, small company. Low in sugar, low in sodium, but plenty of potassium. http://www.vitalyte.com/ The other electrolyte solutions have too much sodium for me. Mostly I just drink water. In a long ride (6-12 hours) I'll drink about one bottle of vitalyte for every three bottles of water. And I'll eat a lot of bananas. Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] any metal fenders that will fit 700/42c tires
Steve, As the Saluki dimensions are similar if not the same as my Homer, should the Honjos, hammered or fluted work with 42mm Hetres with my 56cm 650B Homer? Maybe with a bit of trimming? Thanks. David On May 6, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-05-06 at 14:58 +, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote: I too have the 60mm stainless steel Berthouds on big 700c tires (50mm Marathon Supremes on my Atlantis). They work great – I wouldn’t want anything bigger under them, but at 42mm you should be in great shape. They’re very high quality construction and coverage, too. I just noticed - you said 700C. The Honjo's I posted are all for 650B. Not at all sure if they'll fit. Sorry about that. There is another issue, one I encountered with mounting those Honjos on my Saluki: not all bikes have chain stays that will properly fit a 42mm wide tire. In my case, I had to cut the portion of the fender that fit through the chain stays at the bridge to make them fit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Vote for Pedro
Wait, I mean Edison Gauss. Vote for Edison Gauss. :) Some of you may remember the tire pressure app Philip Williamson and I (and a third fellow) put together last year? Well, our real goal was always to make educational apps for K-8 graders. Our ed app has been doing pretty well. So well, in fact, that the company is in the semi-finals of a contest here in Portland to pick 6 start-ups that will receive a year of shared office space, a $10k stipend, and some legal and professional services. All in all, a pretty nice deal. There were 240 applications and we made the cut to 16 semi-finalists, so that's pretty cool. Unfortunately, the public votes isn't going so well. Fortunately, my wife has a large extended family and that's kept us out of last place. Barely. In hindsight, I blame our video. I think after watching it people are saying to themselves, would I want those guys around my kids? Anyway, while I don't feel the need to win the public vote, and the public vote is a small part of the final selection decision anyway, last place behind hipster golf club koozies and vaporware without even a web site (cough smartmocha cough) is more than I could bear. As for Riv content, I met Philip from the list (that in itself I think it pretty cool), but probably more interesting to more people is the video from one of the other semi-finalists. He's a water engineer and has designed a system that uses a bicycle to power a UV bulb to sterilize water for people in developing countries. (I don't mind losing to him.) It's a pretty cool video, definitely worth 2 min's. And you can vote for more than one. So watch his vid, you'll like it, and then vote for both of us. ;-) Here's the link: http://www.producerowpdx.com/grow/vote/ Edison Gauss... -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Share Photos of Your Custom Painted Atlantis
Howdy, here's one in the pea/sage green color. There's a little sparkle in it that didn't show up in this photo, recommended by Grant, definitely keeps it from looking too muddy. http://www.flickr.com/photos/92441699@N00/5443553801/in/set-72157624124241965/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
Excellent suggestion on pickle or sauerkraut juice. If possible, get the fermented ones rathr than the vinegar ones. Much tastier, and the have more of the good stuff. Coconut water is an excellent choice too. I'm a big fan of real, whole foods whenever possible -- which is nearly always. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, May 6, 2013 8:34:17 AM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote: If you like 'em, try pickle juice or sauerkraut juice. Dilute to taste, or bring the jar! On Monday, May 6, 2013 10:15:44 AM UTC-4, Scott G. wrote: Nunn, works for me, no sugar. E-Load if you want some calories, has a little flavor to it. It has some sugar in it. Has anyone used SuperStarch ?, gets you carbs without the sugar. http://www.generationucan.com/super.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
I'm a Nunn guy too.They are easy to use and have a pleasant taste.. Banana's really work well too, just a little more difficult to transport. ~mike Hugh Sunland, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Re: Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
Hi Ted, I have been using Nuun and Camelbak Elixir with good results. Both contain no sugar and have good taste. Nuun pink lemonade is somewhat light and pleasant tasting and is one of my favorites. I also use the fruit punch and cola flavors. Cola has some caffeine in it so I tend to use it only on longer rides and somewhat sparingly. On rides greater than 60 miles, I also use Hammer Perpetuem with some added endurolytes powder and a bit of Hammer Gel for flavoring. Alternating the Nuun/CB Elixir with the Perpetuem mix really keeps my tendency as dehydration and cramping at bay. It works for me but my not work for others, Joe Joe Bartoe Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc. email: j...@synapticcycles.com website: www.synapticcycles.com Twitter: @synapticcycles phone: 949-374-6079 Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 19:40:10 -0700 From: teddur...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution. I was a Gatorade user but as I got to longer distances found that the sugar was intolerable. I just recently discovered Coco Hydro and have tried it on a couple of 200k's and it's worked great. The potassium-sodium ratio in coconut water is much higher than most other supplements, very close to the same as what we sweat out. In fact, the plain non-flavored versions tastes a bit like, ah, sweat. In a good way, of course! Ted Durant Milwaukee, WI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Show me your overstuffed Small Sackville Saddlesack
Another vote for the large. I can easily fit two 6 packs of bottled beer, plus tool roll, u-lock, hat, gloves, frame pump, and much else. Today, I carried a box o joe from Dunkin Donuts to a meeting; I could have fit two in there and still had room! Patrick, if it won't interfere with balance issues, I highly recommend the large. Personally, I like having excess space. Sorry to drift a bit off topic. -Erl, who carries too much stuff, Houston -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your overstuffed Small Sackville Saddlesack
Question about the large: I can't imagine that the L would work without a rack, but with a rack you can use panniers, which can have a capacity even greater than that of the Sackville Large. So what is the advantage of the Large over panniers, particularly since panniers are so much easier on/off? I love the Medium because, with my 58cm c-c/559-wheeled frame, there is ample tire clearance even without a rack. But if I had to use a rack, I'd use panniers because they are at once bigger and more flexible -- with the Ram/Fy, for instance, I can carry none, one, two, big, small. (With my home-made more-or-less-QR saddlebag attachment, it's not hard to swap between the S Med and the much smaller Carradice Junior, which last I prefer if I'm not shopping.) On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Christopher Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: One vote for the large. I always carry tools, rain gear (top+bottom), locks, and still have room for work stuff and groceries. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Wiring Dyno Hubs
We in the nation's arid underbelly have the solution, and an elegant one it is, too: swamp cooler water conduit! http://www.ehow.com/how_8594849_connect-water-source-evaporative-cooler.html If you are uncouth and cheap, you can use the synthetic version: http://www.indoorcomfortsupply.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=actionkey=202 I like the thought of winding the copper stuff spirally around the frame tubes, but you could also tack weld, braze, or hot glue it in straight lines. On Sunday, May 5, 2013 9:13:29 AM UTC-7, Kelly wrote: I was thinking which tends to get me in trouble that if we can hold head badges to the bike with 3m double sided tape, then there has to be a better solution for the dyno wiring than wrapping and zip ties. I was thinking of a chrome wrapped conduit with bondo or something to hold it to the top tube. With some effort one could even run the brake cable through it as well. So that is all fine and dandy but a good piece of tape that would just go over the wire on the inside of the fork and on the underside of the top tube and that would hold we be better / cleaner / quieter / less likely to get caught on things. Ideas? Solutions? What are you doing? I just did the wrap and zip tie thing again.. hmmm.. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] any metal fenders that will fit 700/42c tires
On Mon, 2013-05-06 at 12:06 -0400, David Hays wrote: Steve, As the Saluki dimensions are similar if not the same as my Homer, should the Honjos, hammered or fluted work with 42mm Hetres with my 56cm 650B Homer? Maybe with a bit of trimming? My Saluki was a 60, and I've never had a close look at any Homer so I'd be rash if I offered you assurances, although my guess is they'd be fine. Perhaps someone at RBW could speak with authority to this question. However, I definitely did need to trim a bit. I didn't do a very neat job of it, as you can see here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916047@N00/3522098460/in/set-72157617915097787 and http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916047@N00/3522098114/in/set-72157617915097787/ but it came as a horrible surprise that I needed to do so and I didn't really plan it out at all. I basically just grabbed a saw and had at it until they fit. Even so, it still worked out fine and although those cut edges look close to the chain stays they never made contact. Someone planning ahead for this could have made the cuts nicer, and maybe edged them with some rubbery substance, perhaps RTV sealant. I'm not sure if crimping rather than cutting would have done it, because clearance for a Hetre was pretty close at the chain stays (although adequate). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Wiring Dyno Hubs
The film is designed to well stick to painted surfaces as it was originally intended for protecting the frontal painted parts of a car from rocks and small debris. My carbon fork is clearcoated so it's essentially painted. You'll actually need to clean off any wax with IPA (isopropyl alcohol, not Indian Pale Ale, although that may work too) before you apply the film, if you're a wax-your-bike kinda of person (no judgement here! LOL) As far as durability, if applied well, the film is expected to last more or less the lifetime of a car, which is to say 10 years or more. As applied on a bike with a wire running through it and thus exposing a little of the sticky side, probably less than that as there's a chance for contamination and de-sticking. I've had mine for a few months now and it's gone through at least 2 bike washes without any signs of peeling, so that's encouraging. The film is about $15 for a roll that's 6 by 3 ft, so it's not expensive. On Sunday, May 5, 2013 9:50:55 PM UTC-7, Kelly wrote: That is great! Do you think it will stick to paint as well as the carbonation? How long has it held up. Thanks for sharing Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your overstuffed Small Sackville Saddlesack
My decision has at the heart of it much the same question as you, Patrick. I currently have the small, which is the perfect size for day rides 3 months of the year round here, when all I need to carry is my rain jacket and a few thin layers of wool. But I want a bag that is my single system bag year round, for short rides, day rides, and bikepacking. So: medium or large? I always run the Big Back Rack either way, so my decision points are as follows: Medium: rides closer to the post and is two inches shorter, leaving more of the rear of the rack available to strap on tent/stove/pad/sleeping bag (whatever doesn't fit into the panniers or saddle sack. Large: more stuff fits inside, which I like. What doesn't can strap onto the top/back D rings on the bag and/or fit between the seat post and the bag. I'm leaning toward the large, as I don't really see a down side to having too much space and since I keep the rack on all the time anyway. Which eliminates the wool temptation, as it's not available in wool. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, May 6, 2013 11:17:40 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: Question about the large: I can't imagine that the L would work without a rack, but with a rack you can use panniers, which can have a capacity even greater than that of the Sackville Large. So what is the advantage of the Large over panniers, particularly since panniers are so much easier on/off? I love the Medium because, with my 58cm c-c/559-wheeled frame, there is ample tire clearance even without a rack. But if I had to use a rack, I'd use panniers because they are at once bigger and more flexible -- with the Ram/Fy, for instance, I can carry none, one, two, big, small. (With my home-made more-or-less-QR saddlebag attachment, it's not hard to swap between the S Med and the much smaller Carradice Junior, which last I prefer if I'm not shopping.) On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Christopher Chen cc...@nougat.orgjavascript: wrote: One vote for the large. I always carry tools, rain gear (top+bottom), locks, and still have room for work stuff and groceries. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your overstuffed Small Sackville Saddlesack
The opening on the Large is easier to use than panniers. It's easier to put stuff in, and easier to get stuff out again, because the opening is bigger. Let's say you stop at the grocery store on the way home. You buy a gallon of milk, a big bag of potatoes (no paleo here!), some vegetables, a package of meat, some laundry detergent, some cans of tomatoes. Maybe you already had a jacket and your laptop along. With panniers, you have to painstaking allocate everything. With the Large Saddlesack, you just jam it all in, and scrooch stuff into the corners to fit everything. I like panniers for touring. I've crossed the US west to east, and also south to north, touring and camping with panniers, so I know what it's like to use panniers every day. But for daily commuting/around town/picking stuff up after a ride, the Large Saddlesack is my choice. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:17 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Question about the large: I can't imagine that the L would work without a rack, but with a rack you can use panniers, which can have a capacity even greater than that of the Sackville Large. So what is the advantage of the Large over panniers, particularly since panniers are so much easier on/off? -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your overstuffed Small Sackville Saddlesack
But, but, but I agree if we are talking about, say, Ortlieb Packers -- those otherwise very desirable and capacious panniers with so many straps, cinches, and contours that interfere with quick, simple stuffing: I have two pairs (Pluses and Sportses). But for shopping and quick stuffs, nothing but nothing beats my Banjo Bros Market Panniers. Slam, dunk: even grossly overstuffed cloth grocery sacks with large bottles distorting the would-be rectangular sides sinke gratefully into the wide, inviting maw of the BBMP mouths - desperately mixing metaphors here. Compared to at least the Medium Saddlesack, no contest at all in the Swallow All And Very Quickly category. I do agree about Paleo though. Or rather: all paleo and all carbs all the time! Patrick Moore, washing his deep-fried french fries and fatty bacon -- grease mingling with heavy mayo applications -- BLTs (all home made of course) down with a wide selection of better beers and wines in ABQ, NM. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: The opening on the Large is easier to use than panniers. It's easier to put stuff in, and easier to get stuff out again, because the opening is bigger. Let's say you stop at the grocery store on the way home. You buy a gallon of milk, a big bag of potatoes (no paleo here!), some vegetables, a package of meat, some laundry detergent, some cans of tomatoes. Maybe you already had a jacket and your laptop along. With panniers, you have to painstaking allocate everything. With the Large Saddlesack, you just jam it all in, and scrooch stuff into the corners to fit everything. I like panniers for touring. I've crossed the US west to east, and also south to north, touring and camping with panniers, so I know what it's like to use panniers every day. But for daily commuting/around town/picking stuff up after a ride, the Large Saddlesack is my choice. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:17 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Question about the large: I can't imagine that the L would work without a rack, but with a rack you can use panniers, which can have a capacity even greater than that of the Sackville Large. So what is the advantage of the Large over panniers, particularly since panniers are so much easier on/off? -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your overstuffed Small Sackville Saddlesack
Those Banjo Bros panniers look like my Ortlieb back roller panniers. Good panniers, but the 10.5 by 12 opening (approximately; I just measured it but it's not exactly rectangular as used) on the Large Saddlesack is far bigger, I'm pretty sure. It's just huge. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:04 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: But, but, but I agree if we are talking about, say, Ortlieb Packers -- those otherwise very desirable and capacious panniers with so many straps, cinches, and contours that interfere with quick, simple stuffing: I have two pairs (Pluses and Sportses). But for shopping and quick stuffs, nothing but nothing beats my Banjo Bros Market Panniers. Slam, dunk: even grossly overstuffed cloth grocery sacks with large bottles distorting the would-be rectangular sides sinke gratefully into the wide, inviting maw of the BBMP mouths - desperately mixing metaphors here. Compared to at least the Medium Saddlesack, no contest at all in the Swallow All And Very Quickly category. I do agree about Paleo though. Or rather: all paleo and all carbs all the time! Patrick Moore, washing his deep-fried french fries and fatty bacon -- grease mingling with heavy mayo applications -- BLTs (all home made of course) down with a wide selection of better beers and wines in ABQ, NM. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: The opening on the Large is easier to use than panniers. It's easier to put stuff in, and easier to get stuff out again, because the opening is bigger. Let's say you stop at the grocery store on the way home. You buy a gallon of milk, a big bag of potatoes (no paleo here!), some vegetables, a package of meat, some laundry detergent, some cans of tomatoes. Maybe you already had a jacket and your laptop along. With panniers, you have to painstaking allocate everything. With the Large Saddlesack, you just jam it all in, and scrooch stuff into the corners to fit everything. I like panniers for touring. I've crossed the US west to east, and also south to north, touring and camping with panniers, so I know what it's like to use panniers every day. But for daily commuting/around town/picking stuff up after a ride, the Large Saddlesack is my choice. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:17 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Question about the large: I can't imagine that the L would work without a rack, but with a rack you can use panniers, which can have a capacity even greater than that of the Sackville Large. So what is the advantage of the Large over panniers, particularly since panniers are so much easier on/off? -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your overstuffed Small Sackville Saddlesack
Well, we must agree to differ, then. I've not use the Large, so perhaps it is unique among saddlebags, but I have used the Hoss and the Sackville Medium, and, compared to these, the ease of use (for grocery shopping and about-town errands) the Banjos are better by a mile. Nothing to roll, cinch, strap, fiddle: just a wide, gaping maw that willing swallows absurd bulk. I hear that Ortlieb actually has a shopping pannier that is much like a higher-quality Banjo -- basically a single, unobstructed cavity designed with the appropriate stiffening so that, when you drop a standard paper (or cloth) grocery sack) into the opening, there is nothing to obstruct its downward progress. I hear that this Ortlieb model is much like the Banjos, but better made with better materials and 3x the cost. At least you will admit that I have Gravity on my side! On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: Those Banjo Bros panniers look like my Ortlieb back roller panniers. Good panniers, but the 10.5 by 12 opening (approximately; I just measured it but it's not exactly rectangular as used) on the Large Saddlesack is far bigger, I'm pretty sure. It's just huge. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:04 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.comwrote: But, but, but I agree if we are talking about, say, Ortlieb Packers -- those otherwise very desirable and capacious panniers with so many straps, cinches, and contours that interfere with quick, simple stuffing: I have two pairs (Pluses and Sportses). But for shopping and quick stuffs, nothing but nothing beats my Banjo Bros Market Panniers. Slam, dunk: even grossly overstuffed cloth grocery sacks with large bottles distorting the would-be rectangular sides sinke gratefully into the wide, inviting maw of the BBMP mouths - desperately mixing metaphors here. Compared to at least the Medium Saddlesack, no contest at all in the Swallow All And Very Quickly category. I do agree about Paleo though. Or rather: all paleo and all carbs all the time! Patrick Moore, washing his deep-fried french fries and fatty bacon -- grease mingling with heavy mayo applications -- BLTs (all home made of course) down with a wide selection of better beers and wines in ABQ, NM. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: The opening on the Large is easier to use than panniers. It's easier to put stuff in, and easier to get stuff out again, because the opening is bigger. Let's say you stop at the grocery store on the way home. You buy a gallon of milk, a big bag of potatoes (no paleo here!), some vegetables, a package of meat, some laundry detergent, some cans of tomatoes. Maybe you already had a jacket and your laptop along. With panniers, you have to painstaking allocate everything. With the Large Saddlesack, you just jam it all in, and scrooch stuff into the corners to fit everything. I like panniers for touring. I've crossed the US west to east, and also south to north, touring and camping with panniers, so I know what it's like to use panniers every day. But for daily commuting/around town/picking stuff up after a ride, the Large Saddlesack is my choice. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:17 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Question about the large: I can't imagine that the L would work without a rack, but with a rack you can use panniers, which can have a capacity even greater than that of the Sackville Large. So what is the advantage of the Large over panniers, particularly since panniers are so much easier on/off? -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your overstuffed Small Sackville Saddlesack
Mostly I just put stuff in the Large. I don't cinch the straps; I just leave them sloppily unbuckled 99% of the time, only strapping when I overstuff dramatically, piling junk up . The opening on the Large is on the top, and the large stays horizontal because it's on top of your rack. Things don't fall out. Gravity is on my side too. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:19 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Well, we must agree to differ, then. I've not use the Large, so perhaps it is unique among saddlebags, but I have used the Hoss and the Sackville Medium, and, compared to these, the ease of use (for grocery shopping and about-town errands) the Banjos are better by a mile. Nothing to roll, cinch, strap, fiddle: just a wide, gaping maw that willing swallows absurd bulk. I hear that Ortlieb actually has a shopping pannier that is much like a higher-quality Banjo -- basically a single, unobstructed cavity designed with the appropriate stiffening so that, when you drop a standard paper (or cloth) grocery sack) into the opening, there is nothing to obstruct its downward progress. I hear that this Ortlieb model is much like the Banjos, but better made with better materials and 3x the cost. At least you will admit that I have Gravity on my side! On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: Those Banjo Bros panniers look like my Ortlieb back roller panniers. Good panniers, but the 10.5 by 12 opening (approximately; I just measured it but it's not exactly rectangular as used) on the Large Saddlesack is far bigger, I'm pretty sure. It's just huge. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:04 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.comwrote: But, but, but I agree if we are talking about, say, Ortlieb Packers -- those otherwise very desirable and capacious panniers with so many straps, cinches, and contours that interfere with quick, simple stuffing: I have two pairs (Pluses and Sportses). But for shopping and quick stuffs, nothing but nothing beats my Banjo Bros Market Panniers. Slam, dunk: even grossly overstuffed cloth grocery sacks with large bottles distorting the would-be rectangular sides sinke gratefully into the wide, inviting maw of the BBMP mouths - desperately mixing metaphors here. Compared to at least the Medium Saddlesack, no contest at all in the Swallow All And Very Quickly category. I do agree about Paleo though. Or rather: all paleo and all carbs all the time! Patrick Moore, washing his deep-fried french fries and fatty bacon -- grease mingling with heavy mayo applications -- BLTs (all home made of course) down with a wide selection of better beers and wines in ABQ, NM. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: The opening on the Large is easier to use than panniers. It's easier to put stuff in, and easier to get stuff out again, because the opening is bigger. Let's say you stop at the grocery store on the way home. You buy a gallon of milk, a big bag of potatoes (no paleo here!), some vegetables, a package of meat, some laundry detergent, some cans of tomatoes. Maybe you already had a jacket and your laptop along. With panniers, you have to painstaking allocate everything. With the Large Saddlesack, you just jam it all in, and scrooch stuff into the corners to fit everything. I like panniers for touring. I've crossed the US west to east, and also south to north, touring and camping with panniers, so I know what it's like to use panniers every day. But for daily commuting/around town/picking stuff up after a ride, the Large Saddlesack is my choice. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:17 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Question about the large: I can't imagine that the L would work without a rack, but with a rack you can use panniers, which can have a capacity even greater than that of the Sackville Large. So what is the advantage of the Large over panniers, particularly since panniers are so much easier on/off? -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: [RBW] Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
When you feel that cramp coming on, drink 2 tablespoons of pickle juice. It works immediately. Will On Sunday, May 5, 2013 10:34:15 PM UTC-5, lemarq wrote: I had the same type of cramping as you. Hours after cycling usually in the evening I used to get these very painful cramps in either leg that left me unable to do anything. Someone told me about Ultima Replenisher with zero sugar. It is a powder and I mix 3 scoops per water bottle and no more cramps. Check out their web site. ultimareplenisher.com I have found that Grape and Red Raspberry taste best. John Sent from my iPad On 2013-05-05, at 5:25 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Hi Rivsters, On long rides I notice I have a tendency to get leg cramps in my feet calf's which is usually long after the ride. I drink plenty of water as I don't like being dehydrated. I have used electrolyte solutions before but dislike the ones with sugar. So was wondering if anyone has experience with such a sugarless product. Thanks, Hugh Sunland, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your overstuffed Small Sackville Saddlesack
One other log to toss on the fire: During a wonderfully muddy ride with Manny and the PDX Riv gang, my fenders kept junk off most everything, and my large saddlesack emerged essentially spic-n-span: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/8645949783/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/8646855277/in/set-72157633237315741/ On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:19 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Well, we must agree to differ, then. I've not use the Large, so perhaps it is unique among saddlebags, but I have used the Hoss and the Sackville Medium, and, compared to these, the ease of use (for grocery shopping and about-town errands) the Banjos are better by a mile. Nothing to roll, cinch, strap, fiddle: just a wide, gaping maw that willing swallows absurd bulk. I hear that Ortlieb actually has a shopping pannier that is much like a higher-quality Banjo -- basically a single, unobstructed cavity designed with the appropriate stiffening so that, when you drop a standard paper (or cloth) grocery sack) into the opening, there is nothing to obstruct its downward progress. I hear that this Ortlieb model is much like the Banjos, but better made with better materials and 3x the cost. At least you will admit that I have Gravity on my side! On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: Those Banjo Bros panniers look like my Ortlieb back roller panniers. Good panniers, but the 10.5 by 12 opening (approximately; I just measured it but it's not exactly rectangular as used) on the Large Saddlesack is far bigger, I'm pretty sure. It's just huge. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:04 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.comwrote: But, but, but I agree if we are talking about, say, Ortlieb Packers -- those otherwise very desirable and capacious panniers with so many straps, cinches, and contours that interfere with quick, simple stuffing: I have two pairs (Pluses and Sportses). But for shopping and quick stuffs, nothing but nothing beats my Banjo Bros Market Panniers. Slam, dunk: even grossly overstuffed cloth grocery sacks with large bottles distorting the would-be rectangular sides sinke gratefully into the wide, inviting maw of the BBMP mouths - desperately mixing metaphors here. Compared to at least the Medium Saddlesack, no contest at all in the Swallow All And Very Quickly category. I do agree about Paleo though. Or rather: all paleo and all carbs all the time! Patrick Moore, washing his deep-fried french fries and fatty bacon -- grease mingling with heavy mayo applications -- BLTs (all home made of course) down with a wide selection of better beers and wines in ABQ, NM. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: The opening on the Large is easier to use than panniers. It's easier to put stuff in, and easier to get stuff out again, because the opening is bigger. Let's say you stop at the grocery store on the way home. You buy a gallon of milk, a big bag of potatoes (no paleo here!), some vegetables, a package of meat, some laundry detergent, some cans of tomatoes. Maybe you already had a jacket and your laptop along. With panniers, you have to painstaking allocate everything. With the Large Saddlesack, you just jam it all in, and scrooch stuff into the corners to fit everything. I like panniers for touring. I've crossed the US west to east, and also south to north, touring and camping with panniers, so I know what it's like to use panniers every day. But for daily commuting/around town/picking stuff up after a ride, the Large Saddlesack is my choice. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:17 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Question about the large: I can't imagine that the L would work without a rack, but with a rack you can use panniers, which can have a capacity even greater than that of the Sackville Large. So what is the advantage of the Large over panniers, particularly since panniers are so much easier on/off? -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: [RBW] Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
When you say pickle juice, what kind of pickles do you mean? Some pickles are pickled in a lot of salt, in fact they're pickled in brine, but some have only a tiny bit of salt. Some pickles have a lot of vinegar, but some have none. Some have a lot of sugar, but some have none. It seems to me if you think that a salt solution, diluted vinegar, sugar water, or some combination of those things, works for cramps, you should just mix those ingredients up, rather than hoping that you have the right kind of pickles around. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Will waller.will...@gmail.com wrote: When you feel that cramp coming on, drink 2 tablespoons of pickle juice. It works immediately. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
I keep this very simple. I have suffered from leg cramps my entire life and come from a family where they are endemic. I simply take potassium tablets. In hot weather more, maybe one or two before a ride and two to four after, along with salty food. I don't do super long rides any more but when I did I carried a few tablets with me. Ignorant medical people flip out, but here's a point of reference. Potassium tablets are typically 99mg. while a baked potato is about 800mg. If you are cramping it is a sure sign of a potassium deficiency, which often goes with dehydration. Your chances of a potassium OD are miniscule. michael On Sunday, May 5, 2013 8:25:34 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote: Hi Rivsters, On long rides I notice I have a tendency to get leg cramps in my feet calf's which is usually long after the ride. I drink plenty of water as I don't like being dehydrated. I have used electrolyte solutions before but dislike the ones with sugar. So was wondering if anyone has experience with such a sugarless product. Thanks, Hugh Sunland, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
Kosher Dills are what I use. Since it is a pantry staple, the juice is simply a side benefit. Google pickle juice and cramps. There are quite a few links. It's not a secret. I got it from a track coach years ago. Will On Monday, May 6, 2013 2:21:10 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: When you say pickle juice, what kind of pickles do you mean? Some pickles are pickled in a lot of salt, in fact they're pickled in brine, but some have only a tiny bit of salt. Some pickles have a lot of vinegar, but some have none. Some have a lot of sugar, but some have none. It seems to me if you think that a salt solution, diluted vinegar, sugar water, or some combination of those things, works for cramps, you should just mix those ingredients up, rather than hoping that you have the right kind of pickles around. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Will waller@gmail.com javascript:wrote: When you feel that cramp coming on, drink 2 tablespoons of pickle juice. It works immediately. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos
Well, to close out this topic, I should say that Grant wrote me a kind email saying that the contract with Soma doesn’t allow Riv to mess with the San Marcos. That’s what I expected, really. The best advice from this list was to “Just Ride” the San Marcos and my feelings about the lack of “Rivendellness” of the bike would melt away with the miles. I think that is what I will do. Looking logically at the difference between the San Marcos and the Roadeo, it is hard to justify paying $1,300 more for the Roadeo just because it is a better looking bike and a “true Rivendell”. Also, I tell myself that I won’t put a rack on the bike…but then I just might. A rack would allow me to ride the San Marcos instead of my pig Novara Safari for weekend trip. I could always remove the rack before my next “fast” ride. Still…which headbadge do you prefer? The headbadge with the beautiful winding open road trailing into the sunset or the headbadge with the Sutro Tower television and radio transmission antennae? Not a tough call for me. For me at least, the Roadeo is the more beautiful bike and the San Marcos is the more practical bike. I guess I’ll keep a magnifying glass to read the fine print on the chainstay and a laminated copy of my invoice in my saddlebag so I can prove that my San Marcos is a “True Rivendell”. J But then I think I need to test ride the Roadeo and the AHH before I place my order just to make sure. Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
Strawberries and bananas are also high in potassium. If you're riding along the coast of California, don't neglect to stop at a strawberry farm and get a delicious basket of strawberries. They're in season for a long time. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I keep this very simple. I have suffered from leg cramps my entire life and come from a family where they are endemic. I simply take potassium tablets. In hot weather more, maybe one or two before a ride and two to four after, along with salty food. I don't do super long rides any more but when I did I carried a few tablets with me. Ignorant medical people flip out, but here's a point of reference. Potassium tablets are typically 99mg. while a baked potato is about 800mg. If you are cramping it is a sure sign of a potassium deficiency, which often goes with dehydration. Your chances of a potassium OD are miniscule. michael On Sunday, May 5, 2013 8:25:34 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote: Hi Rivsters, On long rides I notice I have a tendency to get leg cramps in my feet calf's which is usually long after the ride. I drink plenty of water as I don't like being dehydrated. I have used electrolyte solutions before but dislike the ones with sugar. So was wondering if anyone has experience with such a sugarless product. Thanks, Hugh Sunland, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your overstuffed Small Sackville Saddlesack
To SJB: I would recommend at least the medium based on how you'd like to use it. I use the medium saddlesack for commuting with a change of clothes. Any smaller and I wouldn't be able to do it. I fold and pack my work clothes (shirt and pants) in an Eagle Creek packing folder to keep me presentable. It won't fit in the small; it can be maneuvered into the medium. (FWIW: I have the small saddlesack, too. It's nice for packing a lunch and doing a day trip.) The medium doesn't require a rack, but if you're on a small bike, you may have clearance issues. I have it on a 52cm Crosscheck (fistful or so of seatpost), and if it weren't for the metal fenders and rack, it'd be on the tire. It does reduce the capacity of the saddlebag, as opposed to those having larger bikes with more room to the rear wheel. (Or same size bike with smaller wheels.) The large requires a rack. I recall some people having trouble with the large and the tombstone on the Nitto Big Rack (though others seemed not to mind). If I had to do it again, I would probably go with the large (since I already have a rack, and could use the space). --shoji On Monday, May 6, 2013 2:26:58 PM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote: One other log to toss on the fire: During a wonderfully muddy ride with Manny and the PDX Riv gang, my fenders kept junk off most everything, and my large saddlesack emerged essentially spic-n-span: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/8645949783/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/8646855277/in/set-72157633237315741/ On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:19 AM, PATRICK MOORE bert...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Well, we must agree to differ, then. I've not use the Large, so perhaps it is unique among saddlebags, but I have used the Hoss and the Sackville Medium, and, compared to these, the ease of use (for grocery shopping and about-town errands) the Banjos are better by a mile. Nothing to roll, cinch, strap, fiddle: just a wide, gaping maw that willing swallows absurd bulk. I hear that Ortlieb actually has a shopping pannier that is much like a higher-quality Banjo -- basically a single, unobstructed cavity designed with the appropriate stiffening so that, when you drop a standard paper (or cloth) grocery sack) into the opening, there is nothing to obstruct its downward progress. I hear that this Ortlieb model is much like the Banjos, but better made with better materials and 3x the cost. At least you will admit that I have Gravity on my side! On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Those Banjo Bros panniers look like my Ortlieb back roller panniers. Good panniers, but the 10.5 by 12 opening (approximately; I just measured it but it's not exactly rectangular as used) on the Large Saddlesack is far bigger, I'm pretty sure. It's just huge. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:04 AM, PATRICK MOORE bert...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: But, but, but I agree if we are talking about, say, Ortlieb Packers -- those otherwise very desirable and capacious panniers with so many straps, cinches, and contours that interfere with quick, simple stuffing: I have two pairs (Pluses and Sportses). But for shopping and quick stuffs, nothing but nothing beats my Banjo Bros Market Panniers. Slam, dunk: even grossly overstuffed cloth grocery sacks with large bottles distorting the would-be rectangular sides sinke gratefully into the wide, inviting maw of the BBMP mouths - desperately mixing metaphors here. Compared to at least the Medium Saddlesack, no contest at all in the Swallow All And Very Quickly category. I do agree about Paleo though. Or rather: all paleo and all carbs all the time! Patrick Moore, washing his deep-fried french fries and fatty bacon -- grease mingling with heavy mayo applications -- BLTs (all home made of course) down with a wide selection of better beers and wines in ABQ, NM. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: The opening on the Large is easier to use than panniers. It's easier to put stuff in, and easier to get stuff out again, because the opening is bigger. Let's say you stop at the grocery store on the way home. You buy a gallon of milk, a big bag of potatoes (no paleo here!), some vegetables, a package of meat, some laundry detergent, some cans of tomatoes. Maybe you already had a jacket and your laptop along. With panniers, you have to painstaking allocate everything. With the Large Saddlesack, you just jam it all in, and scrooch stuff into the corners to fit everything. I like panniers for touring. I've crossed the US west to east, and also south to north, touring and camping with panniers, so I know what it's like to use panniers every day. But for daily commuting/around town/picking stuff up after a ride, the Large Saddlesack is my choice. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at
Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your overstuffed Small Sackville Saddlesack
I'll echo Anne's observation. The large is just easier to use than panniers.It's easier to open, easier to find and access things inside, things don't get crushed on the bottom, and with a Nitto QR it's also easier to remove, taking about 0.2 seconds.In addition, you can use the large *with* panniers for touring, and now you have serious carrying capacity, but you should put something on the front to balance it out. Matt On Monday, May 6, 2013 2:40:04 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote: Mostly I just put stuff in the Large. I don't cinch the straps; I just leave them sloppily unbuckled 99% of the time, only strapping when I overstuff dramatically, piling junk up . The opening on the Large is on the top, and the large stays horizontal because it's on top of your rack. Things don't fall out. Gravity is on my side too. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:19 AM, PATRICK MOORE bert...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Well, we must agree to differ, then. I've not use the Large, so perhaps it is unique among saddlebags, but I have used the Hoss and the Sackville Medium, and, compared to these, the ease of use (for grocery shopping and about-town errands) the Banjos are better by a mile. Nothing to roll, cinch, strap, fiddle: just a wide, gaping maw that willing swallows absurd bulk. I hear that Ortlieb actually has a shopping pannier that is much like a higher-quality Banjo -- basically a single, unobstructed cavity designed with the appropriate stiffening so that, when you drop a standard paper (or cloth) grocery sack) into the opening, there is nothing to obstruct its downward progress. I hear that this Ortlieb model is much like the Banjos, but better made with better materials and 3x the cost. At least you will admit that I have Gravity on my side! On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Those Banjo Bros panniers look like my Ortlieb back roller panniers. Good panniers, but the 10.5 by 12 opening (approximately; I just measured it but it's not exactly rectangular as used) on the Large Saddlesack is far bigger, I'm pretty sure. It's just huge. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:04 AM, PATRICK MOORE bert...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: But, but, but I agree if we are talking about, say, Ortlieb Packers -- those otherwise very desirable and capacious panniers with so many straps, cinches, and contours that interfere with quick, simple stuffing: I have two pairs (Pluses and Sportses). But for shopping and quick stuffs, nothing but nothing beats my Banjo Bros Market Panniers. Slam, dunk: even grossly overstuffed cloth grocery sacks with large bottles distorting the would-be rectangular sides sinke gratefully into the wide, inviting maw of the BBMP mouths - desperately mixing metaphors here. Compared to at least the Medium Saddlesack, no contest at all in the Swallow All And Very Quickly category. I do agree about Paleo though. Or rather: all paleo and all carbs all the time! Patrick Moore, washing his deep-fried french fries and fatty bacon -- grease mingling with heavy mayo applications -- BLTs (all home made of course) down with a wide selection of better beers and wines in ABQ, NM. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: The opening on the Large is easier to use than panniers. It's easier to put stuff in, and easier to get stuff out again, because the opening is bigger. Let's say you stop at the grocery store on the way home. You buy a gallon of milk, a big bag of potatoes (no paleo here!), some vegetables, a package of meat, some laundry detergent, some cans of tomatoes. Maybe you already had a jacket and your laptop along. With panniers, you have to painstaking allocate everything. With the Large Saddlesack, you just jam it all in, and scrooch stuff into the corners to fit everything. I like panniers for touring. I've crossed the US west to east, and also south to north, touring and camping with panniers, so I know what it's like to use panniers every day. But for daily commuting/around town/picking stuff up after a ride, the Large Saddlesack is my choice. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:17 AM, PATRICK MOORE bert...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Question about the large: I can't imagine that the L would work without a rack, but with a rack you can use panniers, which can have a capacity even greater than that of the Sackville Large. So what is the advantage of the Large over panniers, particularly since panniers are so much easier on/off? -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to
[RBW] Bosco'd the Hilsen
Raining all day, so I decided to switch out the Alba's with the Bosco bars on the Homer...Moved the Albas back to the Sam. Only rode about 3 blocks home in the rain but hopefully I'll get a chance to see how the bars really work. I did love them on the Sam...Anyone else try Bosco's on their Hilsen's? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
I usually take Grant's nutritional advice with a great of salt (you like what I did there?) but I remember reading somewhere maybe it was from his book about water-downed orange juice as a great electrolyte replacement. Not really sugarless, but it is a really cheap electrolyte supplement. I've had similar problems and asking plenty of veteran Randonneurs about this same thing and they would recommend some wacky but effective for salt replacement. When cramping down a packet of mustard. or Lick your wrist after a long ride like a horse and a salt lick. Pretty wacky but works. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa - the first of a whole new horse breed?
I would really underscore Keven's comments via Jim Thill. And I've seen Keven ride his on trails in the hills behind Riv (non-East bay types can read that as foothills). I saw him climb and descend. It's all true. I never thought Riv could make a little enough Appaloosa for me, but they had one I could stand over and off I went. As most of you know, it was a total epiphany and is going to be the Riv Chica Warrior Warhorse. Then I was talked to one of the exhibit maintenance guys here at the museum who rides like crazy all year around. As in bought a REFRIDGERATOR and hauled it home on his bike trailer. Anyway, he's been following the custom-caper with rapt attention and got very excited when he saw the long chainstays. The first words out of his mouth were comfort. Some other bike-pal-bike-mechanics also got excited at seeing the pictures: that bike'll do anything you want it to do, go anywhere you need it to go. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
On Mon, 2013-05-06 at 14:34 -0700, Manuel Acosta wrote: Lick your wrist after a long ride like a horse and a salt lick. I didn't know sunscreen was good for cramping. I am sure it doesn't taste very good. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bosco'd the Hilsen
http://www.google.com/url?sa=isource=imagescd=cad=rjadocid=F21dimcjZp5KWMtbnid=qEebOx8O_YHQ8M:ved=0CAgQjRwwAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.treasurenet.com%2Fforums%2Fcleaning-preservation%2F187610-how-do-i-clean-wheat-pennies.htmlei=kSKIUd3IG8PWygH3noHADgpsig=AFQjCNEGU6i_IFdzUpxE6PuZqA37Mj3bmQust=1367962641493499 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: any metal fenders that will fit 700/42c tires
FWIW, On my SH, installing some 700 cc 48mm (VO, think they stopped making these) fenders i also had to trim like Steve, it's not that big a deal, some tin snips will create a 'tongue' that you can still bolt to the chain-stay bridge. I've seen Tom's Berthoud 60mm and Supremes, and personally i would not run such a tight combo, he's very brave. I have a pair of berthoud 50mm and my limit is right at 37mm tires. I think Berthoud is your only option in 700, does Honjo make one that wide? I know they do for 650... On Monday, May 6, 2013 10:14:15 AM UTC-4, Seth Vidal wrote: Anyone know of any metal fenders that will fit tires that size? Thanks -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
On a completely different note than those of other posters, I have found that if I take a couple of tablets of pantothenic acid after a long climbing ride, I don't get the excruciating killer lock-up cramps (typically of the adductors) when lying bed that night. Here is data in support of that: *http://tinyurl.com/pantothenic-acid-and-cramping* pb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Randonneur and Rivendell rumble.
Good riding this weekend. Two notable great rides. Had a free afternoon for a short ride in San Francisco. Mr. MIke Williams got to show me around some sweet San Francisco single track just outside UCSF. Before we went riding I got to meet Ray who was redoing the famous 20 year old mural on the outside of American Cyclery. Got to talk to him about the new mural and his inspiration behind his old one. Really cool guy and super talented. Rode out to hit some dirt in the Marin Headlands. Loosing put something together hoping that it wasn't just me riding. We started with a big group of 8, a mixture of randonneurs and rivendell folk. We added 3 more along the way to and on the trails. Whenever I get groups of other cyclist together I always worry about the group and how they would interact or how the riding can be. The group was a great group where everyone was in pretty much up for whatever which was good because I didn't really know where we were riding too(despite the fact that I was suppose to lead the ride). We ending up descending down a roller coaster-like trail to Pelican Inn. We had a tea time before doing the beautiful/hard climb up Middle Green Gulch. Beautiful day with a good group of people. Pictures proved that randonneurs and rivendell folk are sometimes the same people http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEYBZsz -Manny Best things start with an R Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bosco'd the Hilsen
Pics will follow when the rain quits -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Where to get a replacement old school MTB fork?
Thanks for the recent replies. Don't know how this came up again, but the fork was found some months back and the old bike is back on the road. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:57 PM, tdusky tdu...@comcast.net wrote: I have one in my basement 1 with 5.6 length you and have for $10 plus shipping chrome molly. Will send photos if interested On Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55:03 PM UTC-5, Fully Lugged wrote: Wonder if anyone on the lists has a suggestion. A local rider needs a new fork for his steel non-shock absorber frame MTB. It's actually used as a heavy duty road hauler, but that's another story. Needs to be threaded, old school. I suggested he try Surly. The Riv forks are 700 iirc. Other ideas? Thanks in advance. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bosco'd the Hilsen
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xY3PS_m0-OU/UYgtj-FEGmI/AEo/19kOEq87cR0/s1600/hilsenboscos+006.JPG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_skyo2mO9vQ/UYgteveAbUI/AEg/By5nkWIJ0IQ/s1600/hilsenboscos+002.JPG On Monday, May 6, 2013 2:56:42 PM UTC-7, PeterG wrote: Pics will follow when the rain quits -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Sackville Small Trunksack, Large Trunksacks, Toursack
These terrific bags are looking for a new home. Bought them in 2009. They are olive waxed canvas. The Trunksacks have the normal fading that comes with use along with some curling of the leather flaps. They're in great shape, with all fasteners and zippers intact. The panniers have seen less use and are in nearly-new condition, with a spare set of attachment cords. You can buy the bags together or separately; I prefer to sell all 3 together. Price includes shipping. Small Trunksack - 56.00 Large Trunksack- 60.00 Toursack - $160 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-iPwwhYjPmhA/UYgyuqwvgJI/Cl0/keIivhVTTyw/s1600/Sackville+Pannier.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_qOXxUwSUnY/UYgy81Z0M0I/Cl8/_sF_LuCEXeQ/s1600/Small+and+Large+Trunksack.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville Small Trunksack, Large Trunksacks, Toursack
I will take all three. Let me see if I can send you an email about them. On Monday, May 6, 2013 5:52:00 PM UTC-5, Nancy Seibel wrote: These terrific bags are looking for a new home. Bought them in 2009. They are olive waxed canvas. The Trunksacks have the normal fading that comes with use along with some curling of the leather flaps. They're in great shape, with all fasteners and zippers intact. The panniers have seen less use and are in nearly-new condition, with a spare set of attachment cords. You can buy the bags together or separately; I prefer to sell all 3 together. Price includes shipping. Small Trunksack - 56.00 Large Trunksack- 60.00 Toursack - $160 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-iPwwhYjPmhA/UYgyuqwvgJI/Cl0/keIivhVTTyw/s1600/Sackville+Pannier.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_qOXxUwSUnY/UYgy81Z0M0I/Cl8/_sF_LuCEXeQ/s1600/Small+and+Large+Trunksack.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville Small Trunksack, Large Trunksacks, Toursack
I sent you an email Nancy, Thanks. On Monday, May 6, 2013 6:56:19 PM UTC-5, RJM wrote: I will take all three. Let me see if I can send you an email about them. On Monday, May 6, 2013 5:52:00 PM UTC-5, Nancy Seibel wrote: These terrific bags are looking for a new home. Bought them in 2009. They are olive waxed canvas. The Trunksacks have the normal fading that comes with use along with some curling of the leather flaps. They're in great shape, with all fasteners and zippers intact. The panniers have seen less use and are in nearly-new condition, with a spare set of attachment cords. You can buy the bags together or separately; I prefer to sell all 3 together. Price includes shipping. Small Trunksack - 56.00 Large Trunksack- 60.00 Toursack - $160 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-iPwwhYjPmhA/UYgyuqwvgJI/Cl0/keIivhVTTyw/s1600/Sackville+Pannier.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_qOXxUwSUnY/UYgy81Z0M0I/Cl8/_sF_LuCEXeQ/s1600/Small+and+Large+Trunksack.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Wiring Dyno Hubs
I ran my wire straight up the back of the Quickbeam fork leg. There's a winding of copper wire at the bottom, and a plastic guide under the canti stud (secured with a zip tie). http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/6950987649/ Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, May 6, 2013 4:35:06 AM UTC-7, Jay B wrote: Hey Kelly, I used packing tape on my QB years ago as a quick and temporary method of attaching the wires, having tired of the wrapping and zip tie method I had been using. Well, the tape continued to work thru daily commutes in all weather and temperatures. I've since applied the method to my Bleriot and girlfriend's Betty Foy. Recommend it! Benz's use of 3M paint protection film looks pretty slick, too. I might try that next go around. -Jay B. On Sunday, May 5, 2013 12:13:29 PM UTC-4, Kelly wrote: I was thinking which tends to get me in trouble that if we can hold head badges to the bike with 3m double sided tape, then there has to be a better solution for the dyno wiring than wrapping and zip ties. I was thinking of a chrome wrapped conduit with bondo or something to hold it to the top tube. With some effort one could even run the brake cable through it as well. So that is all fine and dandy but a good piece of tape that would just go over the wire on the inside of the fork and on the underside of the top tube and that would hold we be better / cleaner / quieter / less likely to get caught on things. Ideas? Solutions? What are you doing? I just did the wrap and zip tie thing again.. hmmm.. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.
I drink the pickle juice from the pickles my wife makeshttp://stitchandboots.com/2009/06/15/garlic-dill-pickles/. Seems to work. Vinegar, salt, dill, mustard, peppercorns. And cucumbers. Brined, not fermented (not knocking fermented, she just hasn't successfully fermented pickles yet). The last two times I felt the first flutterings of a cramp during a ride, I drank a beer. Actually worked, no cramps during the ride, or after... Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, May 6, 2013 12:54:52 PM UTC-7, Will wrote: Kosher Dills are what I use. Since it is a pantry staple, the juice is simply a side benefit. Google pickle juice and cramps. There are quite a few links. It's not a secret. I got it from a track coach years ago. Will On Monday, May 6, 2013 2:21:10 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: When you say pickle juice, what kind of pickles do you mean? Some pickles are pickled in a lot of salt, in fact they're pickled in brine, but some have only a tiny bit of salt. Some pickles have a lot of vinegar, but some have none. Some have a lot of sugar, but some have none. It seems to me if you think that a salt solution, diluted vinegar, sugar water, or some combination of those things, works for cramps, you should just mix those ingredients up, rather than hoping that you have the right kind of pickles around. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Will waller@gmail.com wrote: When you feel that cramp coming on, drink 2 tablespoons of pickle juice. It works immediately. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your overstuffed Small Sackville Saddlesack
Nyah, nyah, nyah. My gravity pulls straight down. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: Gravity is on my side too. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:19 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Well, we must agree to differ, then. I've not use the Large, so perhaps it is unique among saddlebags, but I have used the Hoss and the Sackville Medium, and, compared to these, the ease of use (for grocery shopping and about-town errands) the Banjos are better by a mile. Nothing to roll, cinch, strap, fiddle: just a wide, gaping maw that willing swallows absurd bulk. I hear that Ortlieb actually has a shopping pannier that is much like a higher-quality Banjo -- basically a single, unobstructed cavity designed with the appropriate stiffening so that, when you drop a standard paper (or cloth) grocery sack) into the opening, there is nothing to obstruct its downward progress. I hear that this Ortlieb model is much like the Banjos, but better made with better materials and 3x the cost. At least you will admit that I have Gravity on my side! On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: Those Banjo Bros panniers look like my Ortlieb back roller panniers. Good panniers, but the 10.5 by 12 opening (approximately; I just measured it but it's not exactly rectangular as used) on the Large Saddlesack is far bigger, I'm pretty sure. It's just huge. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:04 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.comwrote: But, but, but I agree if we are talking about, say, Ortlieb Packers -- those otherwise very desirable and capacious panniers with so many straps, cinches, and contours that interfere with quick, simple stuffing: I have two pairs (Pluses and Sportses). But for shopping and quick stuffs, nothing but nothing beats my Banjo Bros Market Panniers. Slam, dunk: even grossly overstuffed cloth grocery sacks with large bottles distorting the would-be rectangular sides sinke gratefully into the wide, inviting maw of the BBMP mouths - desperately mixing metaphors here. Compared to at least the Medium Saddlesack, no contest at all in the Swallow All And Very Quickly category. I do agree about Paleo though. Or rather: all paleo and all carbs all the time! Patrick Moore, washing his deep-fried french fries and fatty bacon -- grease mingling with heavy mayo applications -- BLTs (all home made of course) down with a wide selection of better beers and wines in ABQ, NM. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: The opening on the Large is easier to use than panniers. It's easier to put stuff in, and easier to get stuff out again, because the opening is bigger. Let's say you stop at the grocery store on the way home. You buy a gallon of milk, a big bag of potatoes (no paleo here!), some vegetables, a package of meat, some laundry detergent, some cans of tomatoes. Maybe you already had a jacket and your laptop along. With panniers, you have to painstaking allocate everything. With the Large Saddlesack, you just jam it all in, and scrooch stuff into the corners to fit everything. I like panniers for touring. I've crossed the US west to east, and also south to north, touring and camping with panniers, so I know what it's like to use panniers every day. But for daily commuting/around town/picking stuff up after a ride, the Large Saddlesack is my choice. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:17 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Question about the large: I can't imagine that the L would work without a rack, but with a rack you can use panniers, which can have a capacity even greater than that of the Sackville Large. So what is the advantage of the Large over panniers, particularly since panniers are so much easier on/off? -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received
Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your overstuffed Small Sackville Saddlesack
Which panniers? On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Matt Beebe matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: I'll echo Anne's observation. The large is just easier to use than panniers.It's easier to open, easier to find and access things inside, things don't get crushed on the bottom, and with a Nitto QR it's also easier to remove, taking about 0.2 seconds.In addition, you can use the large *with* panniers for touring, and now you have serious carrying capacity, but you should put something on the front to balance it out. Matt On Monday, May 6, 2013 2:40:04 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote: Mostly I just put stuff in the Large. I don't cinch the straps; I just leave them sloppily unbuckled 99% of the time, only strapping when I overstuff dramatically, piling junk up . The opening on the Large is on the top, and the large stays horizontal because it's on top of your rack. Things don't fall out. Gravity is on my side too. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:19 AM, PATRICK MOORE bert...@gmail.com wrote: Well, we must agree to differ, then. I've not use the Large, so perhaps it is unique among saddlebags, but I have used the Hoss and the Sackville Medium, and, compared to these, the ease of use (for grocery shopping and about-town errands) the Banjos are better by a mile. Nothing to roll, cinch, strap, fiddle: just a wide, gaping maw that willing swallows absurd bulk. I hear that Ortlieb actually has a shopping pannier that is much like a higher-quality Banjo -- basically a single, unobstructed cavity designed with the appropriate stiffening so that, when you drop a standard paper (or cloth) grocery sack) into the opening, there is nothing to obstruct its downward progress. I hear that this Ortlieb model is much like the Banjos, but better made with better materials and 3x the cost. At least you will admit that I have Gravity on my side! On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comwrote: Those Banjo Bros panniers look like my Ortlieb back roller panniers. Good panniers, but the 10.5 by 12 opening (approximately; I just measured it but it's not exactly rectangular as used) on the Large Saddlesack is far bigger, I'm pretty sure. It's just huge. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:04 AM, PATRICK MOORE bert...@gmail.comwrote: But, but, but I agree if we are talking about, say, Ortlieb Packers -- those otherwise very desirable and capacious panniers with so many straps, cinches, and contours that interfere with quick, simple stuffing: I have two pairs (Pluses and Sportses). But for shopping and quick stuffs, nothing but nothing beats my Banjo Bros Market Panniers. Slam, dunk: even grossly overstuffed cloth grocery sacks with large bottles distorting the would-be rectangular sides sinke gratefully into the wide, inviting maw of the BBMP mouths - desperately mixing metaphors here. Compared to at least the Medium Saddlesack, no contest at all in the Swallow All And Very Quickly category. I do agree about Paleo though. Or rather: all paleo and all carbs all the time! Patrick Moore, washing his deep-fried french fries and fatty bacon -- grease mingling with heavy mayo applications -- BLTs (all home made of course) down with a wide selection of better beers and wines in ABQ, NM. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comwrote: The opening on the Large is easier to use than panniers. It's easier to put stuff in, and easier to get stuff out again, because the opening is bigger. Let's say you stop at the grocery store on the way home. You buy a gallon of milk, a big bag of potatoes (no paleo here!), some vegetables, a package of meat, some laundry detergent, some cans of tomatoes. Maybe you already had a jacket and your laptop along. With panniers, you have to painstaking allocate everything. With the Large Saddlesack, you just jam it all in, and scrooch stuff into the corners to fit everything. I like panniers for touring. I've crossed the US west to east, and also south to north, touring and camping with panniers, so I know what it's like to use panniers every day. But for daily commuting/around town/picking stuff up after a ride, the Large Saddlesack is my choice. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:17 AM, PATRICK MOORE bert...@gmail.comwrote: Question about the large: I can't imagine that the L would work without a rack, but with a rack you can use panniers, which can have a capacity even greater than that of the Sackville Large. So what is the advantage of the Large over panniers, particularly since panniers are so much easier on/off? -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group
[RBW] Randonneur and Rivendell rumble.
Manny, those are terrific. Perhaps my favorite set of yours. Please make sure you are protecting your copyright; I can see cycling related companies wanting to use those. Make sure they pay you and give proper credit. You possess a great eye and your photography skills are growing rapidly. Thanks for sharing, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Storms Near Davis, CA -- 5-6-2013 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Photo from tonight's ride: http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/8716505544/lightbox/ --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Randonneur and Rivendell rumble.
Nicely done! Hugh Sunland, CA On Monday, May 6, 2013 2:55:00 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Good riding this weekend. Two notable great rides. Had a free afternoon for a short ride in San Francisco. Mr. MIke Williams got to show me around some sweet San Francisco single track just outside UCSF. Before we went riding I got to meet Ray who was redoing the famous 20 year old mural on the outside of American Cyclery. Got to talk to him about the new mural and his inspiration behind his old one. Really cool guy and super talented. Rode out to hit some dirt in the Marin Headlands. Loosing put something together hoping that it wasn't just me riding. We started with a big group of 8, a mixture of randonneurs and rivendell folk. We added 3 more along the way to and on the trails. Whenever I get groups of other cyclist together I always worry about the group and how they would interact or how the riding can be. The group was a great group where everyone was in pretty much up for whatever which was good because I didn't really know where we were riding too(despite the fact that I was suppose to lead the ride). We ending up descending down a roller coaster-like trail to Pelican Inn. We had a tea time before doing the beautiful/hard climb up Middle Green Gulch. Beautiful day with a good group of people. Pictures proved that randonneurs and rivendell folk are sometimes the same people http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEYBZsz -Manny Best things start with an R Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Storms Near Davis, CA -- 5-6-2013 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Nice! Love rain weather. Hugh On Monday, May 6, 2013 7:14:36 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: Photo from tonight's ride: http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/8716505544/lightbox/ --Eric campyo...@me.com javascript: www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Randonneur and Rivendell rumble.
Yes, looks like a groovy ride. Great shots. --Smitty On Monday, May 6, 2013 2:55:00 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Good riding this weekend. Two notable great rides. Had a free afternoon for a short ride in San Francisco. Mr. MIke Williams got to show me around some sweet San Francisco single track just outside UCSF. Before we went riding I got to meet Ray who was redoing the famous 20 year old mural on the outside of American Cyclery. Got to talk to him about the new mural and his inspiration behind his old one. Really cool guy and super talented. Rode out to hit some dirt in the Marin Headlands. Loosing put something together hoping that it wasn't just me riding. We started with a big group of 8, a mixture of randonneurs and rivendell folk. We added 3 more along the way to and on the trails. Whenever I get groups of other cyclist together I always worry about the group and how they would interact or how the riding can be. The group was a great group where everyone was in pretty much up for whatever which was good because I didn't really know where we were riding too(despite the fact that I was suppose to lead the ride). We ending up descending down a roller coaster-like trail to Pelican Inn. We had a tea time before doing the beautiful/hard climb up Middle Green Gulch. Beautiful day with a good group of people. Pictures proved that randonneurs and rivendell folk are sometimes the same people http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEYBZsz -Manny Best things start with an R Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bosco'd the Hilsen
I have Boscos on my Hilsen. I like email but am not sure if I like email better than the albas I have on my betty. I often grab near the bend near the shifters when I don't want to be too upright. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Randonneur and Rivendell rumble.
Terrific shots, Manny! That shot of Mike (Hey it's that guy on the catalog!) is fantastic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Randonneur and Rivendell rumble.
Great pics as always Manny! You always get some sneaky shots. I wanted to make the Sunday ride, looked like a killer time! -Mike On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.comwrote: Good riding this weekend. Two notable great rides. Had a free afternoon for a short ride in San Francisco. Mr. MIke Williams got to show me around some sweet San Francisco single track just outside UCSF. Before we went riding I got to meet Ray who was redoing the famous 20 year old mural on the outside of American Cyclery. Got to talk to him about the new mural and his inspiration behind his old one. Really cool guy and super talented. Rode out to hit some dirt in the Marin Headlands. Loosing put something together hoping that it wasn't just me riding. We started with a big group of 8, a mixture of randonneurs and rivendell folk. We added 3 more along the way to and on the trails. Whenever I get groups of other cyclist together I always worry about the group and how they would interact or how the riding can be. The group was a great group where everyone was in pretty much up for whatever which was good because I didn't really know where we were riding too(despite the fact that I was suppose to lead the ride). We ending up descending down a roller coaster-like trail to Pelican Inn. We had a tea time before doing the beautiful/hard climb up Middle Green Gulch. Beautiful day with a good group of people. Pictures proved that randonneurs and rivendell folk are sometimes the same people http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEYBZsz -Manny Best things start with an R Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
