Re: [RBW] Loaded Bombadil

2013-05-31 Thread Brian Hanson
Did you have an elf holding the bike on the other side so the kickstand
wouldn't snap?  :)  Wow!  Awesome setup, Kelly!  Have fun!

Brian
Seattle, WA


On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote:

 Looks like the right amount of stuff to me.


 On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:

 We are headed for a week on the Cowboy Trail.   Here is the Bomba after
 she was loaded up and test ridden.

 Managed some high speed down hills, dirt, curbs, coffee and assorted
 ramblings.She's ready for the ride.

 Here are some photos in front of the House.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893702606/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893054333/

 The coffee shop --
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893701496/

 So I tried to pack lighter this time around.  Though I ended up with lots
 more space / room the weight only dropped about 5 lbs.  So in the photos is
 70lbs of gear including bag and pannier weight.  That's ok I traveled a lot
 of miles at 80ish pounds so why fight it.




 On a side note I took the AHH to the Horsey Hundred this last weekend.
  Carried about 15 to 20 lbs of camera gear and stuff both days and had a
 great time.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8892736746/

 Note the large saddlesack makes a great camera case with the addition of
 some foam padding...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8603144807
 /in/set-72157632471917923


 Have a great week next week while I'm riding my bike...

 oops another side note. of the 9 people going with me from St Louis
 for this ride, there are four Rivs, all from the St Louis area.  Not to
 mention but a beautiful Bruce Gordon, 2 LHT, a Giant OCR Tour (my old one),
 and the Holdsworth resurrected again as a loaner bike.


 One more day of work and I'm outa here.. !!!

 Kelly

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs. Simpleone: What's the difference?

2013-05-31 Thread Matt Beebe
Congratulations on picking up such a neat bike.  I'll add to the quotes 
StatrixBob provided, with the description below which is from the Riv site, 
and a post here on the ROB by Grant about the differences below that. 
The HTA on the QB is 72.5 if you go by the geometry chart, and I think the 
tubing may have been slightly lighter.

Rear Spacing: 120mm. A good width for a single-speed.

Tubing: Butted CrMo steel. The butts are 0.9, the bellies, 0.6, the seat 
stays are 0.9, so are the chainstays, and the fork is 1.1 x 0.8. If those 
numbers mean nothing to you, rest assured that they mean something to 
me/Grant, and they are good.

Top tube upslope: 2-degrees.

Other geologicametrical features: Like all of our bikes, the SimpleOne has 
a relatively shallow seat tube angle (72-deg in most sizes), and moderate 
head tube (also 72-deg). The BB drop is 73 when the wheel is centered in 
the rear dropout. This is a hair higher than our normal frames, but 
accounts for the possibility of a fixed gear and the higher clearance 
requires. And yet, it is still low-to-medium by industry standards.

From a post here by Grant:

On the plus side: The clearance is more than on the QB. The chainstays 
are longer. it has a kickstand plate. The fork crown is swirly-girly. 
The rear dropouts are the same (our own) model as the Q's and the 
angle is the same, so it should be doublable with the pads still one 
the rim. But we're selling it as a ONE speed frame, and what you do 
with it is up to you. We have QB cranks, though. The fork rake is 
delightful. It's not a crafty artisanal frame in the megabuck showy 
sense, but some details could certainly shame some frames that cost 
thrice as much. I'm looking forward to mine. 



On Thursday, May 30, 2013 12:35:36 PM UTC-4, Tim W wrote:

 I can't tell if these are the exact same frame built different places or 
 what?

 Does anyone know what is different between the two, if anything?

 Thanks,
 Tim
  

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[RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-31 Thread ascpgh

We should all abide.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh
 

 For people getting fussy about the Unracer product descriptions, I look to 
 The Dude for a response:

 Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

 --mike


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Re: [RBW] Re: Frisco-peeps stop hogging all the fun. We need a RivEast in Howard County, MD - and here's why.

2013-05-31 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 14:01 -0700, Julian wrote:
 College Park Bikes and Mt. Airy Bikes can be pretty Rivish -- I
 believe they're dealers, 

former dealers



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RE: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs. Simpleone: What's the difference?

2013-05-31 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
I had both (the SimpleOne has since decamped to D.C., as my son's commuter).  
If I rode them back to back, the QB felt a tad quicker/lighter on its feet, the 
SO a bit more laid-back and comfy.  SO had 38mm Marathons, QB Jack Brown 
Greens, which probably accounted for most of the difference.   SO was built up 
with heavier parts, too.  But really, much more similar than different.

Both are wonderful bikes - the QB is STILL my favorite of all my bikes 
(including my Homer, Atlantis, Rohloff Bomba, and Proto-App Mystery Bike).  
It's the ultimate jump on and go.

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[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB
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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs. Simpleone: What's the difference?

I believe my SO was one of the (if not THE) last one(s)... It has beautiful 
paint, but no creme headtube (all green).  It has canti studs, too.  It's 
PERFECT.

Tom Allingham has a QB and SO... What say ye, Tom?

On Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:23:47 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
I would love to try a Quick or Simple. But I'd need some low gearing like 34t 
up front. It still wouldn't be low enough for some of the hills around here.

I am pretty sure I would get hooked on it.
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[RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-31 Thread Ron Mc
I liked in the podcast interview, Grant reinforcing the idea of comfort is 
what makes you choose to ride.  Comfort bike has a connotation all its own, 
and most of the connotations are negative to 99% of the riders out there. 
 City bike, touring bike - all these have become defined genres something 
akin to the classic steel frame castrated fixie in the corner at the LBS. 
 Unracer works as well as anything to describe The Last Bike.  

I don't see Grant as polarizing anything.  People chose to be polarized by 
protecting their ignorance, and most people buying bikes are suckers to the 
30-something salesman at the LBS.  95% of the people buying modern racing 
bikes (especially those of us over 50) will end up not riding them because 
of discomfort.  I am always amazed by the people at trailheads complaining 
about their uncomfortable bikes and saddles, and spending more money on 
lycra and gel diapers.  

On Friday, May 31, 2013 5:49:14 AM UTC-5, ascpgh wrote:


 We should all abide.

 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh
  

 For people getting fussy about the Unracer product descriptions, I look 
 to The Dude for a response:

 Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

 --mike



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[RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-31 Thread Ron Mc
ps - and people who really want to race should be riding racing bikes

On Friday, May 31, 2013 7:30:08 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

 I liked in the podcast interview, Grant reinforcing the idea of comfort is 
 what makes you choose to ride.  Comfort bike has a connotation all its own, 
 and most of the connotations are negative to 99% of the riders out there. 
  City bike, touring bike - all these have become defined genres something 
 akin to the classic steel frame castrated fixie in the corner at the LBS. 
  Unracer works as well as anything to describe The Last Bike.  

 I don't see Grant as polarizing anything.  People chose to be polarized by 
 protecting their ignorance, and most people buying bikes are suckers to the 
 30-something salesman at the LBS.  95% of the people buying modern racing 
 bikes (especially those of us over 50) will end up not riding them because 
 of discomfort.  I am always amazed by the people at trailheads complaining 
 about their uncomfortable bikes and saddles, and spending more money on 
 lycra and gel diapers.  

 On Friday, May 31, 2013 5:49:14 AM UTC-5, ascpgh wrote:


 We should all abide.

 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh
  

 For people getting fussy about the Unracer product descriptions, I look 
 to The Dude for a response:

 Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

 --mike



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[RBW] Re: Great Western Bicycle Rally - 2013

2013-05-31 Thread bwphoto
Great photos! I've been drooling over the the x100 and similar cameras 
since they first came out. Their compactness reminds me the light and 
unencumbered feel of my old film cameras, while I love my DSLRs and lenses 
sometimes I yearn for simplicity. Your BWs are gorgeous, great tonality, 
they almost look like selenium toned prints, are those straight out of the 
camera or converted in post?

Also, I loved your shots of the urban/suburban landscapes...and the story 
they tell. 

On Monday, May 27, 2013 10:42:18 PM UTC-5, JimD wrote:

 As is our custom, pal Brian and I spent this weekend at the Great Western 
 Bicycle Rally in Paso Robles, CA.
 The rally is a great family affair and the variety of riding in Paso 
 Robles is excellent.
 Pictures may prove that it happened:  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/

 JimD



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[RBW] Re: Introduction

2013-05-31 Thread Mike
I purchased my Rambouillet in 2007, since sold, through Coventry Cycles 
here in Portland. After pulling the trigger I had to wait only a week for 
them to build it up. Rivendell would have likely been a month or so wait. 
The Hilsen had just come out and waits for that were longer. A little over 
a year later I was in a position to purchase a Hilsen frame. I was 
fortunate that RBW had it in stock and it shipped pretty quickly. It 
remained boxed up for a month or so until I was able to get it built up. I 
purchased a used Quickbeam in 2009 which has also been sold. 

I'd love to one day get a complete bike through RBW. Seems like it's worth 
the wait as the build is solid with a lot of special detail to attention. 
I'd love to get a complete Hunqa or Hillborne but it's just not gonna 
happen. I have the bikes I need. 

Welcome to the world of RBW. I imagine you'll pick-up your bike in person. 
Be sure to document the glorious day with photos and post them here. Also 
share photos with us of where you and your bike go.

--mike

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Re: [RBW] Great Western Bicycle Rally - 2013

2013-05-31 Thread jimD
The FujiFilm X cameras particularly the X100 and X100S make great cameras to 
use when riding.
Thanks very much for the kudos on the photos. Almost all the pictures are made 
from raw files processed in LightRoom.

I can't praise Paso Robles enough as a great place to ride. Lots of 'country 
bike' kind of riding there and much variety. 
Plus the Great Western Bicycle Rally is about as un-racerish multi-day event 
I've encountered.  
I enjoy all the little kids zooming around the fairgrounds on their bikes.

Cheers,
JimD

On May 31, 2013, at 6:26 AM, bwphoto bwphotograph...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great photos! I've been drooling over the the x100 and similar cameras since 
 they first came out. Their compactness reminds me the light and unencumbered 
 feel of my old film cameras, while I love my DSLRs and lenses sometimes I 
 yearn for simplicity. Your BWs are gorgeous, great tonality, they almost 
 look like selenium toned prints, are those straight out of the camera or 
 converted in post?
 
 Also, I loved your shots of the urban/suburban landscapes...and the story 
 they tell. 
 
 On Monday, May 27, 2013 10:42:18 PM UTC-5, JimD wrote:
 As is our custom, pal Brian and I spent this weekend at the Great Western 
 Bicycle Rally in Paso Robles, CA.
 The rally is a great family affair and the variety of riding in Paso Robles 
 is excellent.
 Pictures may prove that it happened:  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/
 
 JimD
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Great Western Bicycle Rally - 2013

2013-05-31 Thread Eric Norris
The x100 looks like a great camera, but my personal rules about digital cameras 
and cycling require that I only carry a camera that I wouldn't mind dropping 
while riding. At upwards of $1,000, the x100 wouldn't meet that test for me.

I generally carry cameras that I paid $100 or less for, and those usually come 
from eBay (where I buy older models to get 95% of the features at 25% of the 
price). I got a screaming deal on a very nice waterproof Sony camera mostly 
because it is pink, and nobody wants a pink camera.

Eric N
www.CampyOnly.com
CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

On May 31, 2013, at 7:11 AM, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote:

 The FujiFilm X cameras particularly the X100 and X100S make great cameras to 
 use when riding.
 Thanks very much for the kudos on the photos. Almost all the pictures are 
 made from raw files processed in LightRoom.
 
 I can't praise Paso Robles enough as a great place to ride. Lots of 'country 
 bike' kind of riding there and much variety. 
 Plus the Great Western Bicycle Rally is about as un-racerish multi-day event 
 I've encountered.  
 I enjoy all the little kids zooming around the fairgrounds on their bikes.
 
 Cheers,
 JimD
 
 On May 31, 2013, at 6:26 AM, bwphoto bwphotograph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Great photos! I've been drooling over the the x100 and similar cameras since 
 they first came out. Their compactness reminds me the light and unencumbered 
 feel of my old film cameras, while I love my DSLRs and lenses sometimes I 
 yearn for simplicity. Your BWs are gorgeous, great tonality, they almost 
 look like selenium toned prints, are those straight out of the camera or 
 converted in post?
 
 Also, I loved your shots of the urban/suburban landscapes...and the story 
 they tell. 
 
 On Monday, May 27, 2013 10:42:18 PM UTC-5, JimD wrote:
 
 As is our custom, pal Brian and I spent this weekend at the Great Western 
 Bicycle Rally in Paso Robles, CA.
 The rally is a great family affair and the variety of riding in Paso Robles 
 is excellent.
 Pictures may prove that it happened:  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/
 
 JimD
 
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Re: [RBW] UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-31 Thread jimD
+1
…now I'm off to start my day's silliness.

On May 30, 2013, at 7:07 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think looking silly is part of the human condition. :-)
 
 Cheers,
 David
 
 
 
 On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:40 AM, jeffrey kane jsk_onl...@mac.com wrote:
 Fussy? I don't know ...it is funny though ... but I also wonder why Riv/GP 
 feels the need to contribute to an already polarized community (cyclers in 
 general) ... while the button is innocuous enough in itself, all the 
 anti-this and anti-that stuff seems unnecessary. I can't help but think 
 whether you're into wearing sausage skin clothing or tooling around an a 
 $4000.00 artisanal hobo bike with a $25.00 basket ... that sort of thing 
 makes everybody come off looking silly.
 
 
 On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:31:07 AM UTC-4, Mike wrote:
 I was poking around the RBW site last night and noticed there are some new 
 small items--Unracer pins, key fobs and magnets. I love the product 
 description which isn't so much a product description as an Unracering battle 
 cry. I don't think it's entirely serious but I like it. I'm sure there are 
 those who will get all fussy about it. Oh well. Check it out:
 
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/pr71pin.htm
 
 mike
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction

2013-05-31 Thread Takashi
Welcome John!
Hunqapillar and Betty side-by-side should look very wonderful.
I can hardly wait to see photos of your bikes.

 Perhaps I better make another trip over there soon before I get any 
 crankier and my wife makes me sleep outside on a way-longer-than24o.

I would definitely like to know details about your way-longer-than24o, if 
that happens.
Be sure to post photos!  :-)

Takashi


2013年5月31日金曜日 8時28分57秒 UTC+9 jphil...@me.com:

 Thanks everyone for the welcome!

 Some weekends, when I can't stand the wait any longer, I drive over to Riv 
 from Berkeley and take a Hunqapillar or Sam Hillborne or the 
 proto-Appalousa out for a short spin.

 Perhaps I better make another trip over there soon before I get any 
 crankier and my wife makes me sleep outside on a way-longer-than24o.
  
 We discovered Rivendell when someone recommended the Grip King pedals for 
 my folding bike, which led to reading about Grant Petersen  reading Just 
 Ride, which led discovering Rivendell was just over the hill from us, which 
 led to dropping by and test riding their bikes, which put such a big smile 
 on my wife's face I ordered a bike for her. Something she wasn't expecting.

 I have to say the people working there are the best.  Scott, Keven and 
 Sean really made sure we figured out the right size Betty Foy for my wife. 
 We were lucky they still make the 47cm.

 Anyway, thanks for letting me lurk away here on the sidelines in the 
 meantime!

 Happy Trails,

 John



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[RBW] Re: Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble - June 1st

2013-05-31 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
We've got plenty of space (both parking and camping) if anyone's on the 
fence about coming to this, we'd love to have you come out. Feel free to 
bring a spouse, friend or kid. 

Daytime forecast looks great. There's a small chance of precipitation 
Saturday night so if anyone was thinking to forgo shelter, as I was, you've 
been warned. 

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[RBW] Re: Country Bike In-The-City Ramble, Portland Oregon, Sunday 9 June

2013-05-31 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
I too am otherwise occupied on the 9th. I always have a great time on 
Shawn's rides. He has a knack for finding hidden short cuts, pass throughs, 
and alley ways. 

--Smitty
 

On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 8:27:32 PM UTC-7, Shawn Granton wrote:

 Hello folks-


 Just wanted to let you all know about a Riv-esque ride I'm putting 
 together for Pedalpalooza, Portland's big bike fun festival: 
 http://www.shift2bikes.org/cal/viewpp2013.php

 Here are the details:
 ROUGH STUFF/COUNTRY BIKE (IN THE CITY) RAMBLE 
 Sunday June 9th
 11 am
 Kenilworth Park, SE 34th and Holgate 
 Blvd.http://maps.google.com/?bounds=45.389771,-122.829208%7C45.659647,-122.404175q=SE+34th+and+Holgate+Blvd.
  (Meet 
 on the platform over the comfort pavilion)11:00am - 4:00pm

 A 15 to 20 mile ramble exploring the country aspects in the city while 
 riding Country bikes. Expect a good deal of gravel/dirt action, climbs 
 (you can walk it if you have to), and places you didn't think existed. 
 We'll have food/picnic breaks along the way. Ride a bike geared towards 
 comfort, not speed, and one that can handle off-road elements. Moderate 
 pace, no one left behind. Lycra and carbon, no, shellac and seersucker, 
 yes. Ride not a loop. 

 Here's a link to the flyer: 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/8882126267/

 I'll also be leading a sort of Riv-esque Three Speed Ride later in the 
 festival, Sunday 23 June, link if you are interested. 
 http://www.shift2bikes.org/cal/viewpp2013.php#23-3665

 Hope to see some of you fine Portland are folk there!

 yours,
 Shawn

 http://urbanadventureleague.blogspot.com/
 http://groups.google.com/group/urban-adventure-league-portland
 http://societyofthreespeeds.wordpress.com/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/ 


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[RBW] Re: Loaded Bombadil

2013-05-31 Thread Kelly
So the first car just left the driveway on their way to Norfolk.  We'll get 
out of here about 1pm when I get off work. 

Went for another loaded ride last night.. bike is just so sweet.   I had my 
wife hide the other camera and lenses so I wouldn't be tempted.. in my mind 
I keep thinking what's another 10 pounds at this point

The load is good.. I guess I just don't see how people travel much lighter, 
and still cook / not just boil and such.   It would be easy to cut say 
10lbs but it's stuff I would miss and that gets used.   Ive been on tours 
where I set stuff home via ups because I wasn't using it, but this is the 
stuff that gets used daily. 
 
I could save 2lbs with a smaller thermo rest... nope the comfort is much 
better as is.  
Save another 2 to 3 lbs with a smaller tent... .n... much to nice on 
stormy nights as is with two of us... oh.. off load 1/2 the tent on Dawns 
bike!  now that would save me 4lbs right there.
Save 2lbs with fewer days of clean clothes and do laundry more often... not 
worth it.
Save 4lbs by not taking the large saddle sack...  but what a loss for 
grocery hauling and picking up things along the way.
Save a 2lbs by not taking coffee and french press.. NOT in this LIFE TIME
Save a couple of pounds riding smaller tires..  really I thought of that.. 
sheesh
Drop a pound geting rid of the kickstand

I think it's time to think about adding camera stuff.. it's only weight and 
I have lots of gears.

Kelly

On Thursday, May 30, 2013 2:03:17 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote:

 We are headed for a week on the Cowboy Trail.   Here is the Bomba after 
 she was loaded up and test ridden.   

 Managed some high speed down hills, dirt, curbs, coffee and assorted 
 ramblings.She's ready for the ride. 

 Here are some photos in front of the House.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893702606/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893054333/

 The coffee shop --
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893701496/

 So I tried to pack lighter this time around.  Though I ended up with lots 
 more space / room the weight only dropped about 5 lbs.  So in the photos is 
 70lbs of gear including bag and pannier weight.  That's ok I traveled a lot 
 of miles at 80ish pounds so why fight it. 




 On a side note I took the AHH to the Horsey Hundred this last weekend. 
  Carried about 15 to 20 lbs of camera gear and stuff both days and had a 
 great time.  

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8892736746/

 Note the large saddlesack makes a great camera case with the addition of 
 some foam padding... 

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8603144807/in/set-72157632471917923


 Have a great week next week while I'm riding my bike... 

 oops another side note. of the 9 people going with me from St Louis 
 for this ride, there are four Rivs, all from the St Louis area.  Not to 
 mention but a beautiful Bruce Gordon, 2 LHT, a Giant OCR Tour (my old one), 
 and the Holdsworth resurrected again as a loaner bike.


 One more day of work and I'm outa here.. !!!

 Kelly



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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs. Simpleone: What's the difference?

2013-05-31 Thread Bryan
The sad similarity between the two bikes is that neither are being made 
anymore. 

Bryan 



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[RBW] Re: RBWSF s240o

2013-05-31 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Yes, you gotta admit he's damn funny... 

On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 5:31:58 PM UTC-4, William wrote:

 I like that.  Why not use some *more* spokes, Lesnik?

 On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 2:01:46 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:

 On Friday, May 24, 2013 4:11:59 PM UTC-7, Dave Rivbike wrote:

 Our San Francisco Popup is coming soon. June 1-9, Noon-7pm. 

 Opening day is next Saturday. At 5pm we'll have some kind of special 
 thing, a meet and greet with a giveaway. 


 Written up in Bikesnob today: http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/ 



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Re: [RBW] Introduction

2013-05-31 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Welcome. I look forward to seeing your photos.

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:22 AM, jphillip...@me.com jphillip...@me.comwrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 I've wearied of lurking and decided to introduce myself. I'm not an
 RBW owner as of yet, but I have a Hunqapillar on order along with a Betty
 Foy for my wife.

 I wanted to thank everyone for sharing here, it has made the long wait
 somewhat sufferable, though I feel myself regressing toward petulant
 adolescence with each new day.

 We will post photos when are bikes are finished and on the road, but until
 then I will have to get by on vicarious enjoyment of all your thrills.

 Thanks much,

 John

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[RBW] Re: Loaded Bombadil

2013-05-31 Thread Liesl
Save a 2lbs by not taking coffee and french press.. NOT in this LIFE TIME

Ha!  You are a man after my own heart!

Having a 50cm frame, I am envious for how much you can get between your 
seat and rear rack and between your handlebars and front rack!  However, it 
would be a DISASTER for me for I would be tempted to bring WAY too much.  
Plus I am currently not strong enough to haul that much.  Having a coffee 
and a french press, however, is NOT way too much.

I am very curious to hear from mature* women  who have done these 
adventures to talk about how they prepared for them. Wanna take the bait 
and start a new thread, Anne?  Pretty Please???  I, for one, would be 
totally inspired by these Riv Chica Warrior stories.

*I recently used the adjective 'old' in humorously referring to myself with 
Grant.  He was quick to point out, since he is a few years older than I am, 
that I am definitely not old.  So by 'mature,' I am referring to those of 
us who are beyond the half-century mark.


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Re: [RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-31 Thread Anne Paulson
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:55 AM, doc gspi...@aol.com wrote:

 Sooner or later, we're all just old men in funny clothes.  T. Bone Wolk



Whaddaya mean WE, white man?

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[RBW] Re: FS: Phil Wood SS (fixed-free) Rear Wheel

2013-05-31 Thread jar351
Sorry. I seem to have managed to leave all the useful information out of my 
posts. I'm in Oakland, CA.

On Thursday, May 30, 2013 9:15:37 AM UTC-7, jim wrote:

 Wow localed? I meant where are you located? 

 Jim

 On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 9:22:47 AM UTC-5, jim wrote:

 where are you localed?
 Jim (in Madison WI)

 On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:56:53 PM UTC-5, jar351 wrote:

 Hi all,

 I've got a Phil Wood single speed wheel in great shape that I've 
 absolutely no use for, so it's time to find it a new home. Great as an 
 upgrade for your Sim

 Here are the details:
 Fixed-Free hub, spaced to 120mm



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[RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.

2013-05-31 Thread Paul
Holy Cow! The are fantastic! Thanks.

On Thursday, May 30, 2013 12:30:30 PM UTC-4, jinxed wrote:

 OK...it took me a bit to learn the ropes of setting up and running a 
 store...but I think it's a go.

 Some additional items have been added and a concept tee if interest is 
 there.

 I may tweak some things once I get the feel but I would love to get 
 feedback too.

 This will be a first for this stay home parent, cyclist, artist, coffee 
 drankernow online purveyor.

 Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen STOREhttp://bradclick.bigcartel.com/
  


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[RBW] SF Randonneurs June Populaire

2013-05-31 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
If you are brevet-curious:

http://www.sfrandonneurs.org/summer-2013-115k-populaire.htm


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Phil Wood SS (fixed-free) Rear Wheel

2013-05-31 Thread pcb


I'd be interested in knowing rim/spoke spec, as well as price, 
including shipping if you're willing to ship. I know you'd prefer 
local, but sometimes local doesn't work and somebody in NJ has paypal 
funds burning a hole in his pocket (ahem!). 
Paul Brodek

Hillsdale, NJ USA

Quoting jar351 :

  Sorry. I seem to have managed to leave all the useful 
information out of my posts. I'm in Oakland, CA. 


On Thursday, May 30, 2013 9:15:37 AM UTC-7, jim wrote:

  Wow localed? I meant where are you located?

Jim

On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 9:22:47 AM UTC-5, jim wrote:

  where are you localed?
Jim (in Madison WI)

On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:56:53 PM UTC-5, jar351 wrote:

  Hi all,
I've got a Phil Wood single speed wheel in great shape that I've 
absolutely no use for, so it's time to find it a new home. Great as an 
upgrade for your Sim

Here are the details:
Fixed-Free hub, spaced to 120mm

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[RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.

2013-05-31 Thread Liesl
Fabulous!  Placed my order!  Thanks so much for this labor of love.  Riv 
Chica Warrior

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Re: [RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-31 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Well, most people are going to buy a bike so they can ride with the
group of folks that they ride with or associate themselves with. If I
were (only) a fast club rider and wanted to use my bike for commuting
too, then I can understand the idea of getting a light bike.

What's not appreciated or generally known is that a heavier bike
like the Roadeo can perform just as well as a lighter carbon/Ti bike
because it can use supple wide tires that give significant speed and
comfort advantage over many skinnier tires.

Heck, a 17-lb Ti Seven bicycle is probably a darn good bike--not a
great commuter agreed, but I still prefer a Roadeo for its wider tire
capability/fenderability etc., but it's also not a great commuter. If
I only had one bike, then I could understand going this way. I'd put a
seatpost rack or a large saddle-sack on both to commute and use a
Mark's wrap or something similar for my club rides.

I like the idea of an Unracer just rider category too.  If we can
get a bunch of riders to associate with that group, then they can feel
good about buying great versatile bike that's comfortable to ride and
feel good about not always trying to go fast(est).

I think the Randonneur/long distance cyclist is probably what I
associate with most closely, and this group appreciates comfort and
versatility over weight much more than the racer category, so we are
attracted to Riv bikes. I am unapolegetically lycra and clipless, but
still feel a part of the Riv family.

Toshi in Oakland, CA

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[RBW] Re: Loaded Bombadil

2013-05-31 Thread Deacon Patrick
Laundry? Change of clothes? Full sized sleeping pad? Food other than boiled 
or grilled? *Shakes head utterly baffled* What's the point of leaving home 
if you take it with you? Grin.

For me, it was a revelation that I could, on the bike, bring a real tent 
and my Kelly Kettle and enough clothing that I needn't huddle in the 
sleeping bag at on cold evenings -- so we started at opposite sides of the 
spectrum. Have a wonderful trip!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, May 31, 2013 9:13:17 AM UTC-6, Kelly wrote:

 So the first car just left the driveway on their way to Norfolk.  We'll 
 get out of here about 1pm when I get off work. 

 Went for another loaded ride last night.. bike is just so sweet.   I had 
 my wife hide the other camera and lenses so I wouldn't be tempted.. in my 
 mind I keep thinking what's another 10 pounds at this point

 The load is good.. I guess I just don't see how people travel much 
 lighter, and still cook / not just boil and such.   It would be easy to cut 
 say 10lbs but it's stuff I would miss and that gets used.   Ive been on 
 tours where I set stuff home via ups because I wasn't using it, but this is 
 the stuff that gets used daily. 
  
 I could save 2lbs with a smaller thermo rest... nope the comfort is much 
 better as is.  
 Save another 2 to 3 lbs with a smaller tent... .n... much to nice on 
 stormy nights as is with two of us... oh.. off load 1/2 the tent on Dawns 
 bike!  now that would save me 4lbs right there.
 Save 2lbs with fewer days of clean clothes and do laundry more often... 
 not worth it.
 Save 4lbs by not taking the large saddle sack...  but what a loss for 
 grocery hauling and picking up things along the way.
 Save a 2lbs by not taking coffee and french press.. NOT in this LIFE TIME
 Save a couple of pounds riding smaller tires..  really I thought of that.. 
 sheesh
 Drop a pound geting rid of the kickstand

 I think it's time to think about adding camera stuff.. it's only weight 
 and I have lots of gears.

 Kelly

 On Thursday, May 30, 2013 2:03:17 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote:

 We are headed for a week on the Cowboy Trail.   Here is the Bomba after 
 she was loaded up and test ridden.   

 Managed some high speed down hills, dirt, curbs, coffee and assorted 
 ramblings.She's ready for the ride. 

 Here are some photos in front of the House.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893702606/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893054333/

 The coffee shop --
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893701496/

 So I tried to pack lighter this time around.  Though I ended up with lots 
 more space / room the weight only dropped about 5 lbs.  So in the photos is 
 70lbs of gear including bag and pannier weight.  That's ok I traveled a lot 
 of miles at 80ish pounds so why fight it. 




 On a side note I took the AHH to the Horsey Hundred this last weekend. 
  Carried about 15 to 20 lbs of camera gear and stuff both days and had a 
 great time.  

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8892736746/

 Note the large saddlesack makes a great camera case with the addition of 
 some foam padding... 

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8603144807/in/set-72157632471917923


 Have a great week next week while I'm riding my bike... 

 oops another side note. of the 9 people going with me from St Louis 
 for this ride, there are four Rivs, all from the St Louis area.  Not to 
 mention but a beautiful Bruce Gordon, 2 LHT, a Giant OCR Tour (my old one), 
 and the Holdsworth resurrected again as a loaner bike.


 One more day of work and I'm outa here.. !!!

 Kelly



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Re: [RBW] Great Western Bicycle Rally - 2013

2013-05-31 Thread pcb


 To each his own, of course, but I figure I've got more than a couple 
thousand bucks into a bicycle that is always just one small oil slick 
or attention-defecit driver away from crashing and burning, so I'm not 
going to forgo the awesomeness of a Fuji X100/S or X10/X20 for fear of 
dropping. You can get a clean/used X100 for $500-$600, a clean X10 for 
$200-$275 (?), with file output that is as good as a Riv rides. 
Heck, some of us are shodding our $400+ wheels with near-$100 tires, 
and you can shred a tire in no-time flat. 
YMMV... 
Paul Brodek

Hillsdale, NJ USA

Quoting Eric Norris :

  The x100 looks like a great camera, but my personal rules about 
digital cameras and cycling require that I only carry a camera that I 
wouldn't mind dropping while riding. At upwards of $1,000, the x100 
wouldn't meet that test for me. 
I generally carry cameras that I paid $100 or less for, and those 
usually come from eBay (where I buy older models to get 95% of the 
features at 25% of the price). I got a screaming deal on a very nice 
waterproof Sony camera mostly because it is pink, and nobody wants a 
pink camera. 


Eric Nwww.CampyOnly.comCampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.comTwitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
On May 31, 2013, at 7:11 AM, jimD  wrote:

  The FujiFilm X cameras particularly the X100 and X100S make 
great cameras to use when riding.Thanks very much for the kudos on the 
photos. Almost all the pictures are made from raw files processed in 
LightRoom. 
I can't praise Paso Robles enough as a great place to ride. Lots of 
'country bike' kind of riding there and much variety. Plus the Great 
Western Bicycle Rally is about as un-racerish multi-day event I've 
encountered.  I enjoy all the little kids zooming around the 
fairgrounds on their bikes. 
Cheers,JimD


On May 31, 2013, at 6:26 AM, bwphoto  wrote:

  Great photos! I've been drooling over the the x100 and similar 
cameras since they first came out. Their compactness reminds me the 
light and unencumbered feel of my old film cameras, while I love my 
DSLRs and lenses sometimes I yearn for simplicity. Your BWs are 
gorgeous, great tonality, they almost look like selenium toned prints, 
are those straight out of the camera or converted in post?


Also, I loved your shots of the urban/suburban landscapes...and the 
story they tell. 


On Monday, May 27, 2013 10:42:18 PM UTC-5, JimD wrote:

  As is our custom, pal Brian and I spent this weekend at the 
Great Western Bicycle Rally in Paso Robles, CA.The rally is a great 
family affair and the variety of riding in Paso Robles is 
excellent.Pictures may prove that it happened:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/

JimD

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[RBW] Re: Bike Spec Product Managers; was: [BOB] The AngryAsian says.....

2013-05-31 Thread pcb


 I know that gearing is always a very individual thing, with fitness 
level and terrain and target speed and load and more mixed in. With 
11/12t cogs, it's all about how you define standard chainring sizes.
I've pretty much entirely abandoned triples for compact doubles, and 
34/46 or 34/48 are my new standard rings. An 11/12t cog gives me a 
high enough gear to spin a bit before I tuck to descend, my 
dweeble-like build being ideal only for descending. With a smallish 
12-14t jump in the front, indexed shifting is always easy and even 
foolproof. 
Haven't done loaded touring in many decades, if that option presented 
itself I'd need lower gearing, either a triple, but they feel kinda 
yucky now, or a more-compact doulble (24/44?) or a monster low rear cog 
(42t w/SRAM?). 
Paul Brodek

Hillsdale, NJ USA

Quoting Geof Gee :

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Andy Goodell  wrote:

  If 11t is too fast than why not just use smaller chainrings?

Particularly for indexed front derailer shifting, it pays to keep the 
standard chainring sizes.  If you are like me, then you prefer the 
width of a road crank which AFAIK means the smallest (big) chainring is 
50t.  For me, I've always been a spinner, that is simply not usable 
except in extraordinary circumstances. 
For a long time, I used a 12-32 10-speed cassette with a compact crank. 
 But I hardly used the 12-tooth cog; I used the 32 more than the 12.  
Nevertheless, I had more usable cogs in the center of the cassette with 
easier jumps. 
However, I'll be the first to admit that the general acceptance of 
11-tooth cogs implies that most people seem to be fine with it and I'm 
the strange one. 
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[RBW] Re: Swapping Bleriot drivetrain idea. Will it work?

2013-05-31 Thread Michael
Would the exusting worn chain work with the new cassette?

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[RBW] Re: FS: Phil Wood SS (fixed-free) Rear Wheel

2013-05-31 Thread jim
You may have posted Oakland, I didn't look too hard. 
Would you take $160 shipped?
happy Friday!!

Jim

On Friday, May 31, 2013 1:10:32 AM UTC-5, jar351 wrote:

 Sorry. I seem to have managed to leave all the useful information out of 
 my posts. I'm in Oakland, CA.

 On Thursday, May 30, 2013 9:15:37 AM UTC-7, jim wrote:

 Wow localed? I meant where are you located? 

 Jim

 On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 9:22:47 AM UTC-5, jim wrote:

 where are you localed?
 Jim (in Madison WI)

 On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:56:53 PM UTC-5, jar351 wrote:

 Hi all,

 I've got a Phil Wood single speed wheel in great shape that I've 
 absolutely no use for, so it's time to find it a new home. Great as an 
 upgrade for your Sim

 Here are the details:
 Fixed-Free hub, spaced to 120mm



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RE: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs. Simpleone: What's the difference?

2013-05-31 Thread Larry Powers
My favorite two bikes are my Rambouillet and my Quickbeam.  Both are excellent 
bikes and what is it they have in common?

Neither is made anymore.  At my advanced years and barring a sudden impact, I 
should be able to keep both going until I can't ride anymore.

Larry Powers 

 

Get a bicycle.  You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain


Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 08:51:04 -0700
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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs. Simpleone: What's the difference?

The sad similarity between the two bikes is that neither are being made 
anymore. 
Bryan 






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[RBW] Re: Bike Spec Product Managers; was: [BOB] The AngryAsian says.....

2013-05-31 Thread Brewster Fong


On Friday, May 31, 2013 10:13:29 AM UTC-7, Paul Brodek wrote:

 I know that gearing is always a very individual thing, with fitness level 
 and terrain and target speed and load and more mixed in. With 11/12t cogs, 
 it's all about how you define standard chainring sizes.

 I've pretty much entirely abandoned triples for compact doubles, and 34/46 
 or 34/48 are my new standard rings. An 11/12t cog gives me a high enough 
 gear to spin a bit before I tuck to descend, my dweeble-like build being 
 ideal only for descending. With a smallish 12-14t jump in the front, 
 indexed shifting is always easy and even foolproof.


Agree. I use a 48/34 double up front with a 12-27 in the rear and have no 
problem spinning with the 48x12 gear. Since I outweigh most of my buddies 
by at least 25lbs, all I have to do is get going down a hill and tuck. I'm 
usually among the fastest and love watching the 140lb guys spin out in 
their 50/11 as I cruise on by.:)  Good Luck!
 

 Haven't done loaded touring in many decades, if that option presented 
 itself I'd need lower gearing, either a triple, but they feel kinda yucky 
 now, or a more-compact doulble (24/44?) or a monster low rear cog (42t 
 w/SRAM?).

 Paul Brodek
 Hillsdale, NJ USA

 Quoting Geof Gee :




 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Andy Goodell 
 geekg...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 If 11t is too fast than why not just use smaller chainrings? 


 Particularly for indexed front derailer shifting, it pays to keep the 
 standard chainring sizes.  If you are like me, then you prefer the width of 
 a road crank which AFAIK means the smallest (big) chainring is 50t.  For 
 me, I've always been a spinner, that is simply not usable except in 
 extraordinary circumstances. 

 For a long time, I used a 12-32 10-speed cassette with a compact crank. 
  But I hardly used the 12-tooth cog; I used the 32 more than the 12. 
  Nevertheless, I had more usable cogs in the center of the cassette with 
 easier jumps. 

 However, I'll be the first to admit that the general acceptance of 
 11-tooth cogs implies that most people seem to be fine with it and I'm the 
 strange one. 

 -G

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[RBW] Re: Introduction

2013-05-31 Thread jphillip...@me.com
An email from Brian greeted me this morning - my frame arrives next 
week!!!

Time to plan my long way home from Walnut Creek, pack the camera and pick 
the inaugural pedals!

Grip Kings?...or Gripsters?...Grip Kings?...or Gripsters?...hmmm...

Hopefully the Betty Foy isn't too far behind!

Happy trails everyone!

John



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[RBW] Re: My QuickBeem

2013-05-31 Thread Matt Beebe
Fenders, lighting, racked and bagged.   Great setup on the beam.   



On Thursday, May 30, 2013 11:56:21 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:

 Enjoy:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/8898125228/# 

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[RBW] Re: Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.

2013-05-31 Thread jphillip...@me.com
+1 on the sauerkraut juice!

John

On Monday, May 6, 2013 7:34:17 AM UTC-7, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

 If you like 'em, try pickle juice or sauerkraut juice. Dilute to taste, or 
 bring the jar!

 On Monday, May 6, 2013 10:15:44 AM UTC-4, Scott G. wrote:

 Nunn, works for me, no sugar.

 E-Load if you want some calories, has a little flavor to it.
 It has some sugar in it.

 Has anyone used SuperStarch ?, gets you carbs without the sugar.

 http://www.generationucan.com/super.html



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[RBW] Re: 5-10 shoes and sticky soles

2013-05-31 Thread Jayme Frye
Update now that I have had a chance to ride with the 5-10's on VP pedals. 
Big thumbs up so far. The combination of the sticky rubber of the shoe and 
the pins on the pedal give a super solid feel during all types of pedaling 
e.g. cruising, high cadence, out of the saddle, and climbing. 
Highly recommend this combination for all aspiring un-racers. 

On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:23:22 PM UTC-5, Jayme Frye wrote:

 How serendipitous. I just received a pair of 5-10 Dirtbag lows prior to 
 the three day weekend. And after a 50 miler on Sunday on MKS GR 9 pedals 
 declare them a success. 
 I have tried three diff cleat/shoe combinations (SPD, Look/Keo, BeBop) and 
 they all left me cold. For maximum comfort during long days in the saddle 
 it seems self evident that moving your feet fore and aft as well as 
 twisting heel in and out is necessary, making fixed position cleated shoes 
 the least comfortable option.
 The next step for me is adding the VP platforms from Riv (should arrive 
 Wed.)   

 On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:29:55 PM UTC-5, bwphoto wrote:

 I've been testing 5-10 shoes in the process of making a better connection 
 between my feet and the pedals. After testing three I settled on the new 
 Freerider VXi, I just posted a review of the shoes I tested and the 
 performance of the Stealth soles., Here's the link: 
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[RBW] Rivendell SF Pop-Up Store

2013-05-31 Thread Manuel Acosta
In case you were wondering...
Here's some sneak peak pictures.
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjFB3KS3

Anyone else checking it out on Saturday? I'll be there. Ride afterwards 
could be an option.

-Manny

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell SF Pop-Up Store

2013-05-31 Thread cyclotourist
Did you get a picture of Lesnik's spoke boxes?

Cheers,
David



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 In case you were wondering...
 Here's some sneak peak pictures.
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjFB3KS3

 Anyone else checking it out on Saturday? I'll be there. Ride afterwards
 could be an option.

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[RBW] Anybody ordering to enter the Sam/Betty raffle? And usual excellent customer service from Riv folks

2013-05-31 Thread Ryan
Not to dis Campy but decided to swap out my older Campy SR seatposts for 
Nitto S-83 2-bolts on my Rivs because I did have the rails on one of my 
B-17's break on my X0-1 (which had a  27.0 mm 96 vintage Campy record 
diameter and this is the bike I generally commute to work on. Fortunately 
no injury to me..so that is a good thing). 
 
So ordered  2 27.2 mm  S-83's and added $10  to 1 of Riv's charities to 
bump my order to  $200but I didn't have any caffeine in my system this 
am , so  I accidentally ordered 26.8 mm instead.My partner phoned me at 
work and pointed this out, but we couldn't change the order. I phoned Riv 
long  distance and  spoke to Rich who  very kindly changed my order to the 
correct 27.2 mm (Doh:)). I'm sure they're crazy busy today getting ready 
for the pop-up event tomorrow  , and doubtless processing a blizzard of 
$200 orders.
 
So, out of curiosity, did you enter this raffle, and if you did, what did 
y'all order and which bike would you pick if you won?
 
I'm thinking the Betty...at my mature age, a step through would be a useful 
addition to the stable
 
Good luck:)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Loaded Bombadil

2013-05-31 Thread Anne Paulson
Dirty clothes every day? Hard, uncomfortable pad? Giving up the delicious
food I like? *Shakes head utterly baffled*? What's the point of being
uncomfortable and suffering? If I wanted to be uncomfortable, I wouldn't
have bought a Rivendell.

I think I'd like touring with Kelly. We have the same touring esthetic.
Comfort, good food, hot coffee in the morning. I'm domestic about my
touring: I like to settle into my comfortable home under the trees every
night. Not for me the furtive after-dark sneak to the spot.


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 Laundry? Change of clothes? Full sized sleeping pad? Food other than
 boiled or grilled? *Shakes head utterly baffled* What's the point of
 leaving home if you take it with you? Grin.

 For me, it was a revelation that I could, on the bike, bring a real tent
 and my Kelly Kettle and enough clothing that I needn't huddle in the
 sleeping bag at on cold evenings -- so we started at opposite sides of the
 spectrum. Have a wonderful trip!

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Friday, May 31, 2013 9:13:17 AM UTC-6, Kelly wrote:

 So the first car just left the driveway on their way to Norfolk.  We'll
 get out of here about 1pm when I get off work.

 Went for another loaded ride last night.. bike is just so sweet.   I had
 my wife hide the other camera and lenses so I wouldn't be tempted.. in my
 mind I keep thinking what's another 10 pounds at this point

 The load is good.. I guess I just don't see how people travel much
 lighter, and still cook / not just boil and such.   It would be easy to cut
 say 10lbs but it's stuff I would miss and that gets used.   Ive been on
 tours where I set stuff home via ups because I wasn't using it, but this is
 the stuff that gets used daily.

 I could save 2lbs with a smaller thermo rest... nope the comfort is much
 better as is.
 Save another 2 to 3 lbs with a smaller tent... .n... much to nice on
 stormy nights as is with two of us... oh.. off load 1/2 the tent on Dawns
 bike!  now that would save me 4lbs right there.
 Save 2lbs with fewer days of clean clothes and do laundry more often...
 not worth it.
 Save 4lbs by not taking the large saddle sack...  but what a loss for
 grocery hauling and picking up things along the way.
 Save a 2lbs by not taking coffee and french press.. NOT in this LIFE TIME
 Save a couple of pounds riding smaller tires..  really I thought of
 that.. sheesh
 Drop a pound geting rid of the kickstand

 I think it's time to think about adding camera stuff.. it's only weight
 and I have lots of gears.

 Kelly

 On Thursday, May 30, 2013 2:03:17 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote:

 We are headed for a week on the Cowboy Trail.   Here is the Bomba after
 she was loaded up and test ridden.

 Managed some high speed down hills, dirt, curbs, coffee and assorted
 ramblings.She's ready for the ride.

 Here are some photos in front of the House.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**tksleeper/8893702606/http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893702606/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**tksleeper/8893054333/http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893054333/

 The coffee shop --
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**tksleeper/8893701496/http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893701496/

 So I tried to pack lighter this time around.  Though I ended up with
 lots more space / room the weight only dropped about 5 lbs.  So in the
 photos is 70lbs of gear including bag and pannier weight.  That's ok I
 traveled a lot of miles at 80ish pounds so why fight it.




 On a side note I took the AHH to the Horsey Hundred this last weekend.
  Carried about 15 to 20 lbs of camera gear and stuff both days and had a
 great time.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**tksleeper/8892736746/http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8892736746/

 Note the large saddlesack makes a great camera case with the addition of
 some foam padding...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**tksleeper/8603144807/in/set-**
 72157632471917923http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8603144807/in/set-72157632471917923


 Have a great week next week while I'm riding my bike...

 oops another side note. of the 9 people going with me from St Louis
 for this ride, there are four Rivs, all from the St Louis area.  Not to
 mention but a beautiful Bruce Gordon, 2 LHT, a Giant OCR Tour (my old one),
 and the Holdsworth resurrected again as a loaner bike.


 One more day of work and I'm outa here.. !!!

 Kelly

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[RBW] Re: Swapping Bleriot drivetrain idea. Will it work?

2013-05-31 Thread dougP
If you go much larger on the largest cog, you're going to need a longer 
chain so may as well put on a new one with the new cassette.  

dougP

On Friday, May 31, 2013 10:15:51 AM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

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[RBW] Anybody ordering to enter the Sam/Betty raffle? And usual excellent customer service from Riv folks

2013-05-31 Thread WETH
Ordered many parts for my new to me Atlantis.  I think I hit the double entry 
threshold if I remember the original contest wording. ;)
If I were fortunate to win, I would be selecting a bike for my wife to ride.  
Her choice.
Not surprised to hear you had a great customer service experience!

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell SF Pop-Up Store

2013-05-31 Thread James Warren
I hope the window gets extended. I can't get up to the Bay Area until about June 10, and I hope to see it.-Original Message-
From: cyclotourist 
Sent: May 31, 2013 2:58 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: Re: [RBW] Rivendell SF Pop-Up Store

Did you get a picture of Lesnik's spoke boxes?Cheers,David
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote:
In case you were wondering...Here's some sneak peak pictures.http://flic.kr/s/aHsjFB3KS3Anyone else checking it out on Saturday? I'll be there. Ride afterwards could be an option.
-Manny



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Re: [RBW] Re: Loaded Bombadil

2013-05-31 Thread Deacon Patrick
I love it, Anne and Kelly! Grin. Actually, I'm completely comfortable. If 
warm enough, I sleep without a pad, just using a pad big enough to keep my 
core warm when it's 40 or less at night (which it nearly always is in the 
CO mountains). But then I sleep on hard wood floors with a wool blanket for 
a pad at home, so it's just like being in my own bed. Wool base layer 
washed in a creek every few days, good as new. Tea bags, cause I don't 
drink coffee. So, I'm completely comfortable and having a grand time. Oh, 
and I will sit in a camp site all day long and don't stealth camp.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, May 31, 2013 4:22:29 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:

 Dirty clothes every day? Hard, uncomfortable pad? Giving up the delicious 
 food I like? *Shakes head utterly baffled*? What's the point of being 
 uncomfortable and suffering? If I wanted to be uncomfortable, I wouldn't 
 have bought a Rivendell.

 I think I'd like touring with Kelly. We have the same touring esthetic. 
 Comfort, good food, hot coffee in the morning. I'm domestic about my 
 touring: I like to settle into my comfortable home under the trees every 
 night. Not for me the furtive after-dark sneak to the spot.


 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Laundry? Change of clothes? Full sized sleeping pad? Food other than 
 boiled or grilled? *Shakes head utterly baffled* What's the point of 
 leaving home if you take it with you? Grin.

 For me, it was a revelation that I could, on the bike, bring a real tent 
 and my Kelly Kettle and enough clothing that I needn't huddle in the 
 sleeping bag at on cold evenings -- so we started at opposite sides of the 
 spectrum. Have a wonderful trip!

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Friday, May 31, 2013 9:13:17 AM UTC-6, Kelly wrote:

 So the first car just left the driveway on their way to Norfolk.  We'll 
 get out of here about 1pm when I get off work. 

 Went for another loaded ride last night.. bike is just so sweet.   I had 
 my wife hide the other camera and lenses so I wouldn't be tempted.. in my 
 mind I keep thinking what's another 10 pounds at this point

 The load is good.. I guess I just don't see how people travel much 
 lighter, and still cook / not just boil and such.   It would be easy to cut 
 say 10lbs but it's stuff I would miss and that gets used.   Ive been on 
 tours where I set stuff home via ups because I wasn't using it, but this is 
 the stuff that gets used daily. 
  
 I could save 2lbs with a smaller thermo rest... nope the comfort is much 
 better as is.  
 Save another 2 to 3 lbs with a smaller tent... .n... much to nice on 
 stormy nights as is with two of us... oh.. off load 1/2 the tent on Dawns 
 bike!  now that would save me 4lbs right there.
 Save 2lbs with fewer days of clean clothes and do laundry more often... 
 not worth it.
 Save 4lbs by not taking the large saddle sack...  but what a loss for 
 grocery hauling and picking up things along the way.
 Save a 2lbs by not taking coffee and french press.. NOT in this LIFE TIME
 Save a couple of pounds riding smaller tires..  really I thought of 
 that.. sheesh
 Drop a pound geting rid of the kickstand

 I think it's time to think about adding camera stuff.. it's only weight 
 and I have lots of gears.

 Kelly

 On Thursday, May 30, 2013 2:03:17 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote:

 We are headed for a week on the Cowboy Trail.   Here is the Bomba after 
 she was loaded up and test ridden.   

 Managed some high speed down hills, dirt, curbs, coffee and assorted 
 ramblings.She's ready for the ride. 

 Here are some photos in front of the House.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**tksleeper/8893702606/http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893702606/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**tksleeper/8893054333/http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893054333/

 The coffee shop --
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**tksleeper/8893701496/http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893701496/

 So I tried to pack lighter this time around.  Though I ended up with 
 lots more space / room the weight only dropped about 5 lbs.  So in the 
 photos is 70lbs of gear including bag and pannier weight.  That's ok I 
 traveled a lot of miles at 80ish pounds so why fight it. 




 On a side note I took the AHH to the Horsey Hundred this last weekend. 
  Carried about 15 to 20 lbs of camera gear and stuff both days and had a 
 great time.  

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**tksleeper/8892736746/http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8892736746/

 Note the large saddlesack makes a great camera case with the addition 
 of some foam padding... 

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**tksleeper/8603144807/in/set-**
 72157632471917923http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8603144807/in/set-72157632471917923


 Have a great week next week while I'm riding my bike... 

 oops another side note. of the 9 people going with me from St Louis 
 for this ride, there are four Rivs, all from the St Louis area.  Not to 
 

Re: [RBW] Anybody ordering to enter the Sam/Betty raffle? And usual excellent customer service from Riv folks

2013-05-31 Thread Anne Paulson
I put in an order over the weekend. I bought some tires and some other
stuff, and decided to check out the MUSA knickers. I carefully made sure
that I was over the limit even if the knickers were going back-- which they
are. I'm sure those knickers are fine, but they will not be joining my
wardrobe.

I thought the raffle was only for a Betty? I've already planned what I'll
do with it when I win ;) The raffle is insanely clever, because I'm sure a
lot of us are planning what we'd do with our new bike. We sort of already
feel like we own it... and then when we don't win, we might decide that we
need to own that bike anyway.


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Ryan ryter...@mts.net wrote:

 Not to dis Campy but decided to swap out my older Campy SR seatposts for
 Nitto S-83 2-bolts on my Rivs because I did have the rails on one of my
 B-17's break on my X0-1 (which had a  27.0 mm 96 vintage Campy record
 diameter and this is the bike I generally commute to work on. Fortunately
 no injury to me..so that is a good thing).

 So ordered  2 27.2 mm  S-83's and added $10  to 1 of Riv's charities to
 bump my order to  $200but I didn't have any caffeine in my system this
 am , so  I accidentally ordered 26.8 mm instead.My partner phoned me at
 work and pointed this out, but we couldn't change the order. I phoned Riv
 long  distance and  spoke to Rich who  very kindly changed my order to the
 correct 27.2 mm (Doh:)). I'm sure they're crazy busy today getting ready
 for the pop-up event tomorrow  , and doubtless processing a blizzard of
 $200 orders.

 So, out of curiosity, did you enter this raffle, and if you did, what did
 y'all order and which bike would you pick if you won?

 I'm thinking the Betty...at my mature age, a step through would be a
 useful addition to the stable

 Good luck:)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble - June 1st

2013-05-31 Thread Brian Hanson
I plan to head down around 8-9 in the AM if anyone needs transport from the 
Seattle end. 

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On May 31, 2013, at 8:07 AM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.com wrote:

 We've got plenty of space (both parking and camping) if anyone's on the fence 
 about coming to this, we'd love to have you come out. Feel free to bring a 
 spouse, friend or kid. 
 
 Daytime forecast looks great. There's a small chance of precipitation 
 Saturday night so if anyone was thinking to forgo shelter, as I was, you've 
 been warned. 
 
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[RBW] Re: Introduction

2013-05-31 Thread jphillip...@me.com
Hello Takashi,

I have been admiring your photos for months. And I love those fenders!

Thank you for sharing the photos from your rides. They are beautiful!

Looking forward to your more of your photos,

John

 

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:17:38 AM UTC-7, Takashi wrote:

 Hi all,
 I have been following this group for a while, and I am posting for the 
 first time to introduce myself.
 I bought Hunqapillar in last April, and I'm enjoying it very much.

 I also enjoy reading posts in this group. Lots of nice ride reports and 
 informations.
 I might not post frequently though, since I am not a native speaker of 
 English, and I have to work hard to read/write in English.

 Photos of my Hunqapillar:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/sets/72157629584056500/

 Takashi



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[RBW] REDUCED! FS; Bridgestone RB-T, 1992, 56 cm, rivved-up

2013-05-31 Thread NWAJack
Very nice looking!!

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Re: [RBW] Anybody ordering to enter the Sam/Betty raffle? And usual excellent customer service from Riv folks

2013-05-31 Thread BSWP
Replacing my wife's Brooks saddle, and a new JB green for me, took us over 
the line... it's her chance for a beautiful Betty Foy!

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: White Industies VBC crank on Hunqapillar

2013-05-31 Thread Christian
I wrote to Brian. He said to use the mountain VBC crank which uses the ENO 
arms. The road VBC will not work I with the Hunq's chain stays.  

Thanks for the replies. 

Christian 

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Re: [RBW] Loaded Bombadil

2013-05-31 Thread jimD
And this may be heresy but you can have your cake and eat it too by joining 
supported tours.
In a few weeks I'll start Sierra 2 the Sea. Rode it a couple of years ago and 
had a blast.

JimD  (Mr. Wimpy)

On May 31, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dirty clothes every day? Hard, uncomfortable pad? Giving up the delicious 
 food I like? *Shakes head utterly baffled*? What's the point of being 
 uncomfortable and suffering? If I wanted to be uncomfortable, I wouldn't have 
 bought a Rivendell.
 
 I think I'd like touring with Kelly. We have the same touring esthetic. 
 Comfort, good food, hot coffee in the morning. I'm domestic about my touring: 
 I like to settle into my comfortable home under the trees every night. Not 
 for me the furtive after-dark sneak to the spot.
 
 
 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
 Laundry? Change of clothes? Full sized sleeping pad? Food other than boiled 
 or grilled? *Shakes head utterly baffled* What's the point of leaving home if 
 you take it with you? Grin.
 
 For me, it was a revelation that I could, on the bike, bring a real tent and 
 my Kelly Kettle and enough clothing that I needn't huddle in the sleeping bag 
 at on cold evenings -- so we started at opposite sides of the spectrum. Have 
 a wonderful trip!
 
 With abandon,
 Patrick
 
 
 On Friday, May 31, 2013 9:13:17 AM UTC-6, Kelly wrote:
 So the first car just left the driveway on their way to Norfolk.  We'll get 
 out of here about 1pm when I get off work. 
 
 Went for another loaded ride last night.. bike is just so sweet.   I had my 
 wife hide the other camera and lenses so I wouldn't be tempted.. in my mind I 
 keep thinking what's another 10 pounds at this point
 
 The load is good.. I guess I just don't see how people travel much lighter, 
 and still cook / not just boil and such.   It would be easy to cut say 10lbs 
 but it's stuff I would miss and that gets used.   Ive been on tours where I 
 set stuff home via ups because I wasn't using it, but this is the stuff that 
 gets used daily. 
  
 I could save 2lbs with a smaller thermo rest... nope the comfort is much 
 better as is.  
 Save another 2 to 3 lbs with a smaller tent... .n... much to nice on 
 stormy nights as is with two of us... oh.. off load 1/2 the tent on Dawns 
 bike!  now that would save me 4lbs right there.
 Save 2lbs with fewer days of clean clothes and do laundry more often... not 
 worth it.
 Save 4lbs by not taking the large saddle sack...  but what a loss for grocery 
 hauling and picking up things along the way.
 Save a 2lbs by not taking coffee and french press.. NOT in this LIFE TIME
 Save a couple of pounds riding smaller tires..  really I thought of that.. 
 sheesh
 Drop a pound geting rid of the kickstand
 
 I think it's time to think about adding camera stuff.. it's only weight and I 
 have lots of gears.
 
 Kelly
 
 On Thursday, May 30, 2013 2:03:17 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote:
 We are headed for a week on the Cowboy Trail.   Here is the Bomba after she 
 was loaded up and test ridden.   
 
 Managed some high speed down hills, dirt, curbs, coffee and assorted 
 ramblings.She's ready for the ride. 
 
 Here are some photos in front of the House.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893702606/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893054333/
 
 The coffee shop --
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893701496/
 
 So I tried to pack lighter this time around.  Though I ended up with lots 
 more space / room the weight only dropped about 5 lbs.  So in the photos is 
 70lbs of gear including bag and pannier weight.  That's ok I traveled a lot 
 of miles at 80ish pounds so why fight it. 
 
 
 
 
 On a side note I took the AHH to the Horsey Hundred this last weekend.  
 Carried about 15 to 20 lbs of camera gear and stuff both days and had a great 
 time.  
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8892736746/
 
 Note the large saddlesack makes a great camera case with the addition of some 
 foam padding... 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8603144807/in/set-72157632471917923
 
 
 Have a great week next week while I'm riding my bike... 
 
 oops another side note. of the 9 people going with me from St Louis for 
 this ride, there are four Rivs, all from the St Louis area.  Not to mention 
 but a beautiful Bruce Gordon, 2 LHT, a Giant OCR Tour (my old one), and the 
 Holdsworth resurrected again as a loaner bike.
 
 
 One more day of work and I'm outa here.. !!!
 
 Kelly
 
 
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell SF Pop-Up Store

2013-05-31 Thread Ely Rodriguez
it's pretty close to my house, but we'll be out riding all day saturday. 
then a lot of family stuff sunday.
are the hours and dates posted somewhere?

On Friday, May 31, 2013 2:54:55 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 In case you were wondering...
 Here's some sneak peak pictures.
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjFB3KS3

 Anyone else checking it out on Saturday? I'll be there. Ride afterwards 
 could be an option.

 -Manny


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[RBW] Growing up

2013-05-31 Thread kmcmoobud
Don't worry little new Atlantis, you too will grow up to roll along with the 
Bleriot:  

http://flic.kr/p/ez74pT

Kristy

Sent from my iPad

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[RBW] Swapping Bleriot drivetrain idea. Will it work?

2013-05-31 Thread Larry H
I have a Microshift Triple FD braze on with mounting clamp. I used on my Sam 
last summer and then upgraded to a XT. If you are interested, let me know. 
Price is flexible. It worked fine but the XT is better. 

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell SF Pop-Up Store

2013-05-31 Thread Manuel Acosta
12 - 7 pm Ely. I'll drop you a care package and if you get a chance pick it 
up.


On Friday, May 31, 2013 6:47:37 PM UTC-7, Ely Rodriguez wrote:

 it's pretty close to my house, but we'll be out riding all day saturday. 
 then a lot of family stuff sunday.
 are the hours and dates posted somewhere?

 On Friday, May 31, 2013 2:54:55 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 In case you were wondering...
 Here's some sneak peak pictures.
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjFB3KS3

 Anyone else checking it out on Saturday? I'll be there. Ride afterwards 
 could be an option.

 -Manny



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[RBW] Re: Start the summer right. Mixed terrain June 2nd

2013-05-31 Thread Manuel Acosta
Still happening. For those that are interested here's the some pictures of 
the last one.
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEcMF1g

Proposed route.
http://goo.gl/maps/rDEcp

Last time we only got to castro valley before having a huge lunch and 
calling it quits.

On Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:36:59 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Start the summer right!
 June 2nd. Mixed terrain ride. 
 Meeting at Fremont Bart around 9ish. Ending at Walnut Creek Bart.
 Abandon houses, golf balls and rope swings. You know summer stuff.

 -Manny


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Re: [RBW] Re: Start the summer right. Mixed terrain June 2nd

2013-05-31 Thread Michael Williams
Hey Manny,   would love to,  but gotta work all that day.   Might be doing
some camping that night though if youre interested,   kinda leaving last
minute from SF,   prolly around 7ish and maybe heading to the Headlands to
sleep outside!   If the weather continues to be slightly warm,   it could
make for a really nice evening out there!   -Mike

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 Still happening. For those that are interested here's the some pictures of
 the last one.
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEcMF1g

 Proposed route.
 http://goo.gl/maps/rDEcp

 Last time we only got to castro valley before having a huge lunch and
 calling it quits.

 On Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:36:59 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Start the summer right!
 June 2nd. Mixed terrain ride.
 Meeting at Fremont Bart around 9ish. Ending at Walnut Creek Bart.
 Abandon houses, golf balls and rope swings. You know summer stuff.

 -Manny

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Re: [RBW] Re: Start the summer right. Mixed terrain June 2nd

2013-05-31 Thread Manuel Acosta
Mike. Will told me about it. I'll be there too.


On Friday, May 31, 2013 8:24:09 PM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:

 Hey Manny,   would love to,  but gotta work all that day.   Might be doing 
 some camping that night though if youre interested,   kinda leaving last 
 minute from SF,   prolly around 7ish and maybe heading to the Headlands to 
 sleep outside!   If the weather continues to be slightly warm,   it could 
 make for a really nice evening out there!   -Mike

 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Manuel Acosta 
 manueljo...@hotmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Still happening. For those that are interested here's the some pictures 
 of the last one.
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEcMF1g

 Proposed route.
 http://goo.gl/maps/rDEcp

 Last time we only got to castro valley before having a huge lunch and 
 calling it quits.

 On Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:36:59 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Start the summer right!
 June 2nd. Mixed terrain ride. 
 Meeting at Fremont Bart around 9ish. Ending at Walnut Creek Bart.
 Abandon houses, golf balls and rope swings. You know summer stuff.

 -Manny

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Re: [RBW] Re: Start the summer right. Mixed terrain June 2nd

2013-05-31 Thread Michael Williams
For Camping?thats radness!

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 Mike. Will told me about it. I'll be there too.


 On Friday, May 31, 2013 8:24:09 PM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:

 Hey Manny,   would love to,  but gotta work all that day.   Might be
 doing some camping that night though if youre interested,   kinda leaving
 last minute from SF,   prolly around 7ish and maybe heading to the
 Headlands to sleep outside!   If the weather continues to be slightly warm,
   it could make for a really nice evening out there!   -Mike

 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Manuel Acosta 
 manueljo...@hotmail.comwrote:

 Still happening. For those that are interested here's the some pictures
 of the last one.
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEcMF1g

 Proposed route.
 http://goo.gl/maps/rDEcp

 Last time we only got to castro valley before having a huge lunch and
 calling it quits.

 On Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:36:59 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Start the summer right!
 June 2nd. Mixed terrain ride.
 Meeting at Fremont Bart around 9ish. Ending at Walnut Creek Bart.
 Abandon houses, golf balls and rope swings. You know summer stuff.

 -Manny

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Re: [RBW] Growing up

2013-05-31 Thread Peter Morgano
I hope the Atlantis gets a little dirtier than the Bleriot, thing looks
like it just rolled out of the showroom!


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 Don't worry little new Atlantis, you too will grow up to roll along with
 the Bleriot:

 http://flic.kr/p/ez74pT

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[RBW] Re: SF Randonneurs June Populaire

2013-05-31 Thread BSWP
I'm signing up! My 3x6 LongLow is prepped and ready, should be lots of fun. 

But I have to figure a means of transport, since the earliest BART only 
gets to Embarcadero at 6:32. Anyone with a van driving over from the East 
Bay that morning?

- Andrew, Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] Loaded Bombadil

2013-05-31 Thread Kelly
Well one of these days Dawn will have to speak up / sign up as she rides all 
these things with me on her Atlantis.
We just finished an 8 hour drive with high winds and rain.  First day on ride 
tomorrow .. High off 59 with 20 mph winds.
North northwest... Since we are riding west northwest doesn't that mean 
headwinds tomorrow..oh ya 

So open your calendars... We are riding August 11th through 24th from New 
Buffalo Mi to Sault Sri Mauri Mi along USBR 35.   Ou shuttle driver says there 
is room for 4 more.. We are currently at six 2 women at this point.

Kelly

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Re: [RBW] Loaded Bombadil

2013-05-31 Thread Kelly
Well one of these days Dawn will have to speak up / sign up as she rides all 
these things with me on her Atlantis.
We just finished an 8 hour drive with high winds and rain.  First day on ride 
tomorrow .. High off 59 with 20 mph winds.
North northwest... Since we are riding west northwest doesn't that mean 
headwinds tomorrow..oh ya 

So open your calendars... We are riding August 11th through 24th from New 
Buffalo Mi to Sault Sri Mauri Mi along USBR 35.   Ou shuttle driver says there 
is room for 4 more.. We are currently at six 2 women at this point.

Kelly

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[RBW] Re: SF Randonneurs June Populaire

2013-05-31 Thread Manuel Acosta
I'll be going. Does anyone have any used Grand bois they have lying around 
that are willing to sell? Curious about what the jazz is about the whole 
thing tire thing. 


On Friday, May 31, 2013 8:51:11 PM UTC-7, BSWP wrote:

 I'm signing up! My 3x6 LongLow is prepped and ready, should be lots of 
 fun. 

 But I have to figure a means of transport, since the earliest BART only 
 gets to Embarcadero at 6:32. Anyone with a van driving over from the East 
 Bay that morning?

 - Andrew, Berkeley


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[RBW] Re: SF Randonneurs June Populaire

2013-05-31 Thread BSWP
Ah, I see that earliest BART (Dublin-Pleasanton line) is actually 6:26. 
Might be possible to get to the Toll Plaza in time...

On Friday, May 31, 2013 8:51:11 PM UTC-7, BSWP wrote:

 I'm signing up! My 3x6 LongLow is prepped and ready, should be lots of 
 fun. 

 But I have to figure a means of transport, since the earliest BART only 
 gets to Embarcadero at 6:32. Anyone with a van driving over from the East 
 Bay that morning?

 - Andrew, Berkeley


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Re: [RBW] SF Randonneurs June Populaire

2013-05-31 Thread Eric Norris
I'll be in NYC that day, otherwise I would do this ride. SFR is a great group 
to ride with. 

–Eric N
Sent from my iPhone 5

On May 31, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:

 If you are brevet-curious:
 
 http://www.sfrandonneurs.org/summer-2013-115k-populaire.htm
 
 
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[RBW] Re: Anybody ordering to enter the Sam/Betty raffle? And usual excellent customer service from Riv folks

2013-05-31 Thread Joe Bernard
A B17 Select, extra bracket for my recently purchased Cygolite (awesome 
light which charges off your laptop), 8cm DirtDrop stem, four rolls of 
Newbaum's maroon bar tape (I mistakenly ordered eggplant last time). 
 
I'd love to tell you which frame I would pick if I won, but I change my 
mind every 10 minutes :)
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Friday, May 31, 2013 3:16:05 PM UTC-7, Ryan wrote:

 Not to dis Campy but decided to swap out my older Campy SR seatposts for 
 Nitto S-83 2-bolts on my Rivs because I did have the rails on one of my 
 B-17's break on my X0-1 (which had a  27.0 mm 96 vintage Campy record 
 diameter and this is the bike I generally commute to work on. Fortunately 
 no injury to me..so that is a good thing). 
  
 So ordered  2 27.2 mm  S-83's and added $10  to 1 of Riv's charities to 
 bump my order to  $200but I didn't have any caffeine in my system this 
 am , so  I accidentally ordered 26.8 mm instead.My partner phoned me at 
 work and pointed this out, but we couldn't change the order. I phoned Riv 
 long  distance and  spoke to Rich who  very kindly changed my order to the 
 correct 27.2 mm (Doh:)). I'm sure they're crazy busy today getting ready 
 for the pop-up event tomorrow  , and doubtless processing a blizzard of 
 $200 orders.
  
 So, out of curiosity, did you enter this raffle, and if you did, what did 
 y'all order and which bike would you pick if you won?
  
 I'm thinking the Betty...at my mature age, a step through would be a 
 useful addition to the stable
  
 Good luck:)


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[RBW] Image codes possible on this forum?

2013-05-31 Thread Michael
Like this:
 
[URL=http://s398.photobucket.com/user/lungimsam/media/4132a623-c369-4ef7-b25a-5eb6db8cc611_zpsf420102c.jpg.html][IMG]http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp66/lungimsam/4132a623-c369-4ef7-b25a-5eb6db8cc611_zpsf420102c.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
 
 
Would make it easier than scaling down photos to post. Just wundrin'.

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[RBW] Re: Image codes possible on this forum?

2013-05-31 Thread Michael


 PS- it posts the pic for viewing directly to the thread post when it works.

 
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Image codes possible on this forum?

2013-05-31 Thread Joe Bunik
Nope, *please* don't do that, it renders in individual email
subscriptions as a run-on url hyperlink (made even more unwieldy by
gmail's GET-request tracking)...

Image attachment, or even pasted directly into rtf-email works just fine.

Thanks!
=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

On 5/31/13, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:


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Re: [RBW] Loaded Bombadil

2013-05-31 Thread Anne Paulson
Will that make two Rivs on Sierra to the Sea? 'Cause I'm doing it too, and
the prolog too because if I'm going to ride from the Sierra to the Sea, I'm
darned well going to start on the far side of the Sierra.


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:40 PM, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote:

 And this may be heresy but you can have your cake and eat it too by
 joining supported tours.
 In a few weeks I'll start Sierra 2 the Sea. Rode it a couple of years ago
 and had a blast.

 JimD  (Mr. Wimpy)

 On May 31, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dirty clothes every day? Hard, uncomfortable pad? Giving up the delicious
 food I like? *Shakes head utterly baffled*? What's the point of being
 uncomfortable and suffering? If I wanted to be uncomfortable, I wouldn't
 have bought a Rivendell.

 I think I'd like touring with Kelly. We have the same touring esthetic.
 Comfort, good food, hot coffee in the morning. I'm domestic about my
 touring: I like to settle into my comfortable home under the trees every
 night. Not for me the furtive after-dark sneak to the spot.


 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.comwrote:

 Laundry? Change of clothes? Full sized sleeping pad? Food other than
 boiled or grilled? *Shakes head utterly baffled* What's the point of
 leaving home if you take it with you? Grin.

 For me, it was a revelation that I could, on the bike, bring a real tent
 and my Kelly Kettle and enough clothing that I needn't huddle in the
 sleeping bag at on cold evenings -- so we started at opposite sides of the
 spectrum. Have a wonderful trip!

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Friday, May 31, 2013 9:13:17 AM UTC-6, Kelly wrote:

 So the first car just left the driveway on their way to Norfolk.  We'll
 get out of here about 1pm when I get off work.

 Went for another loaded ride last night.. bike is just so sweet.   I had
 my wife hide the other camera and lenses so I wouldn't be tempted.. in my
 mind I keep thinking what's another 10 pounds at this point

 The load is good.. I guess I just don't see how people travel much
 lighter, and still cook / not just boil and such.   It would be easy to cut
 say 10lbs but it's stuff I would miss and that gets used.   Ive been on
 tours where I set stuff home via ups because I wasn't using it, but this is
 the stuff that gets used daily.

 I could save 2lbs with a smaller thermo rest... nope the comfort is much
 better as is.
 Save another 2 to 3 lbs with a smaller tent... .n... much to nice on
 stormy nights as is with two of us... oh.. off load 1/2 the tent on Dawns
 bike!  now that would save me 4lbs right there.
 Save 2lbs with fewer days of clean clothes and do laundry more often...
 not worth it.
 Save 4lbs by not taking the large saddle sack...  but what a loss for
 grocery hauling and picking up things along the way.
 Save a 2lbs by not taking coffee and french press.. NOT in this LIFE TIME
 Save a couple of pounds riding smaller tires..  really I thought of
 that.. sheesh
 Drop a pound geting rid of the kickstand

 I think it's time to think about adding camera stuff.. it's only weight
 and I have lots of gears.

 Kelly

 On Thursday, May 30, 2013 2:03:17 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote:

 We are headed for a week on the Cowboy Trail.   Here is the Bomba after
 she was loaded up and test ridden.

 Managed some high speed down hills, dirt, curbs, coffee and assorted
 ramblings.She's ready for the ride.

 Here are some photos in front of the House.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**tksleeper/8893702606/http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893702606/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**tksleeper/8893054333/http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893054333/

 The coffee shop --
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**tksleeper/8893701496/http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893701496/

 So I tried to pack lighter this time around.  Though I ended up with
 lots more space / room the weight only dropped about 5 lbs.  So in the
 photos is 70lbs of gear including bag and pannier weight.  That's ok I
 traveled a lot of miles at 80ish pounds so why fight it.




 On a side note I took the AHH to the Horsey Hundred this last weekend.
  Carried about 15 to 20 lbs of camera gear and stuff both days and had a
 great time.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**tksleeper/8892736746/http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8892736746/

 Note the large saddlesack makes a great camera case with the addition
 of some foam padding...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**tksleeper/8603144807/in/set-**
 72157632471917923http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8603144807/in/set-72157632471917923


 Have a great week next week while I'm riding my bike...

 oops another side note. of the 9 people going with me from St Louis
 for this ride, there are four Rivs, all from the St Louis area.  Not to
 mention but a beautiful Bruce Gordon, 2 LHT, a Giant OCR Tour (my old one),
 and the Holdsworth resurrected again as a loaner bike.


 One more day of work and I'm outa 

[RBW] Re: Loaded Bombadil

2013-05-31 Thread IanA
On the one hand, the weight is not terribly important - the bike carries it 
after all.  On the other hand, a little less weight is an excellent thing. 
Much easier on the back wheel on dirt roads.  On my travels, I've had the 
bike up to 15kg for the bike, 25kg (55lb) for basic kit, 12kg for water and 
8kg for food.  That's 132lb - which is too much weight, but that's when I 
had to be mostly self sufficient for a few days.  But, in its basic form of 
40kg (88lb), it felt positively weightless.  

At 88lb I could carry my bicycle up flights of stairs, which I did mainly 
to impress the locals in Mexico, after they'd all had a turn trying to pick 
it up. Then I met an Argentinian who could carry my fully loaded bike 
one-handed.  I think the limiting factor for basic touring weight should be 
determined by whether or not one can carry the bicycle up a flight of 
stairs.   This does not have to be accomplished elegantly.

The really important thing here though is that you are heading off on a 
bike trip - brilliant!  Enjoy it and you are correct that the tent and 
thermorest should give you comfort - if you can sleep, you can ride.

On Thursday, May 30, 2013 1:03:17 PM UTC-6, Kelly wrote:

 We are headed for a week on the Cowboy Trail.   Here is the Bomba after 
 she was loaded up and test ridden.   

 Managed some high speed down hills, dirt, curbs, coffee and assorted 
 ramblings.She's ready for the ride. 

 Here are some photos in front of the House.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893702606/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893054333/

 The coffee shop --
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893701496/

 So I tried to pack lighter this time around.  Though I ended up with lots 
 more space / room the weight only dropped about 5 lbs.  So in the photos is 
 70lbs of gear including bag and pannier weight.  That's ok I traveled a lot 
 of miles at 80ish pounds so why fight it. 




 On a side note I took the AHH to the Horsey Hundred this last weekend. 
  Carried about 15 to 20 lbs of camera gear and stuff both days and had a 
 great time.  

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8892736746/

 Note the large saddlesack makes a great camera case with the addition of 
 some foam padding... 

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8603144807/in/set-72157632471917923


 Have a great week next week while I'm riding my bike... 

 oops another side note. of the 9 people going with me from St Louis 
 for this ride, there are four Rivs, all from the St Louis area.  Not to 
 mention but a beautiful Bruce Gordon, 2 LHT, a Giant OCR Tour (my old one), 
 and the Holdsworth resurrected again as a loaner bike.


 One more day of work and I'm outa here.. !!!

 Kelly



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