date:20130619

On the commute today I noticed something - or more correctly thought of 
something I notice every day in a new light.  
 
That is, the high percentage of people using plastic shell style saddles 
who wear padded shorts.  Reading accounts of cycle tourers back in the 70's 
through even the 90's, it is glaring how few people then wore padded shorts 
on tour.  Padded shorts were for racers who trained day in day out.  Not 
for commuters, casual riders, or even people doing an annual multi-day or 
even cross country tour.
 
The cycling market has become so accustumed to padded shorts that no one 
asks what is it about most modern saddles that require special clothing for 
use?  I think those of us who use hammock saddles know the answer.

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Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look

 Not sure about a stain factor, but one tester on one of the forums 
 said the rough textured surface destroyed a pair of bib shorts. 

All the more reason to support sales of the Cambium if it gets some of the 
many who should not be wearing bibs in public out of them and into 
comfortable loose fitting shorts.


  

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[RBW] Re: Mt Hood NF S36O.

2013-06-19 Thread Mike

Wow. Bummer. I just spent the last 30 minutes writing up a report. I hit 
post and Google said there was a problem. I hit reload and my post was 
lost. I'm not gonna re-write it. In short... I had fun riding my bike alone 
on quiet Forest Service roads in the Mt Hood National Forest. The days were 
long but fulfilling and my bike and equipment all worked fine. If you can, 
get out there and explore, camp and have fun. I'd even say push yourself a 
bit. Be sure to post pictures and experiences here.

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Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look

No one will deny you your preferences, for Brooks type saddles or for
vegetarian eating. No one will deny that plastic saddles hurt you and wear
out quickly for you. One will and must deny your reasoning that, because it
is  is so for you, it is so universally in the absence of any further
presented data and, in fact, in the presence of easily acquired data to the
contrary. This fallacy is very, very strangely common!

I've ridden Flites almost exclusively (a San Marco, briefly; two Turbos,
briefly; Brooks, Fujitas, Ideales, of various sorts, briefly, tho' the Pro
while commuting for 12 or 18 months; I always came back to original issue
Flites) for almost 25 years, and I abandoned padded shorts 10 years ago or
more when I realized belatedly that there was no point, at least for rides
under 50 miles. I wear regular underwear and street pants.

There are tens of thousands - at least! - who ride plastic saddles for
years on end without problem and without padded shorts -- look at the ratio
of plastic saddles to hammock saddles. At least a fraction of those riders
are comfortable. I would guess that this fraction is not too much smaller
than the numbers who ride hammocks. I take that as sufficient proof that
your original universally affirmative assertion is not true.

On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Matthew Joly matthewj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Exactly what proof would you need.  To watch me and hundreds of other
 hammock saddle fans squirm while riding plastic saddles.

 I've tried dozens of models over the years.  For a while I thought the
 Fizik Ronin [sp?] was going to be the one.  The padding wore down in less
 than a month.  Surface had visible abrasion marks.

 My weight fluctuates around 160-165.  I don't think I am necessarily hard
 on saddles.

 Bottom line most people pay big bucks for Brooks and Berthouds not for
 bling but because their bodies do not take to molded plastic saddles.  I
 don't think this is a controversial statement at all.

 Matthew Joly
 Chicago, IL

 On Jun 18, 2013, at 17:02, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 ??? 25K miles at least? Hardly short. Uncomfortable? Proof? Again 25 k
 miles over the years? My first Flite from circa 1990 that has been on half
 a dozen bikes with 7 k on the last one? Not to mention all the other Flites
 I've put thousands of miles on? And this is just one particular model of
 plastic saddle?

 Don't make unsupported universal assertions.

 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote:

 I and others interested in leather free alternatives to quality Brooks
 and Berthoud saddles have said and this and other bicycle forums that the
 plastic saddles all tend to be both be horribly uncomfortable and have a
 short life span.

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Re: [RBW] Cracked XD Crank Arm ..... And the Earth Didn't Stop Rotating :)

2013-06-19 Thread Leslie

Not from a cracked crank, but, 20 years ago, I took a Nishiki MTB out for a 
spin at a bike shop, was looking to buy...  the pedal hadn't been turned 
all the way into the crank, and popped off on a downstroke while I was 
starting up a hill behind the shop. Sudden punching the ground w/ my foot 
flipped me off the bike the other way, adding one more bike scar to my 
knee. 

Ended up getting a discount on the bike, still have it...



On Monday, June 17, 2013 5:52:28 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 14:41 -0700, Garth wrote: 
I noticed this strange squiggly line coming from the drive side 
  pedal hole today, while may miles from home !   Oh well I thought, 
  nothing to do really, if it breaks it breaks  if not not. It 
  didn't. When I got home I removed the pedal to check if i could see 
  the crack in the threads, but could not. So I sanded off the anodizing 
  at the spot until I could see it no more. I hopped back on the bike 
  and pushed down with all my weight on the pedal, and lo and behold, 
  the crack line reappeared .  Oyil well !   Funny thing is, it's not 
  such a big deal !  I have another bike to ride and I'll order another 
  crank. Pretty simple . These are the 152mm XD's, which no one here 
  likely uses anyway. They are made of a slightly different mold than 
  the longer ones, but still XD's as labeled 

 Of course, if it /had/ broken when you were riding, it would have turned 
 into a whole lot of bigger deal.  Happened to me four times. 





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Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look

You are misreading my original post on the topic if you think I am arguing 
that all shell saddles are uncomfortable.  Rather, I said that Cambium 
gives hope to those of us who find shell saddles uncomfortable and prefer 
not to buy leather products.  I will point out that several people reading 
the list reached out to me off line saying they would be very happy to use 
a quality hammock saddle made without leather.
 
I spent hundreds probably thousands of dollars on shell saddles between 
1998 and 2005 or so.  If shell saddles worked for me, I would use them.  I 
am glad they work for you.
 
I am not aware of any scientific survey on padded shorts use among 
cyclists.  The fact so many companies make and sell padded shorts and you 
see so many people wearing them certainly suggests significant numbers use 
them.  While this is good for the cycle industry economy, I question 
whether enough end users have asked themselves why they need to wear padded 
shorts to ride.
 
Given my experience with shell saddles versus hammock, I believe at least 
some percentage of people who use shell saddles and wear padded shorts will 
find they no longer need the pads on a hammock saddle.

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[RBW] Re: Sam H starring in film

2013-06-19 Thread Marc Irwin

I'm glad you posted it, I hadn't seen it.  It was a good piece of work for 
a home made job.

Marc

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 7:10:52 AM UTC-4, Tom Goodmann wrote:

 Doh.  Now I found the thread ... shared by Manny back in November. Sorry 
 for the repost!  Great feeling to the film.

 On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:12:59 AM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Hoodlums. All of them. Specially that asian kid. He keeps looking at the 
 camera! What a weirdo.

 On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:23:01 PM UTC-7, Tom Goodmann wrote:

 Am I the last person on this list to see this?  Apologies if this is old 
 news--haven't found a thread on it.  Apparently won praise at 2012 cycling 
 film festival: http://vimeo.com/46103673  Both bikes moustachioed, too.

 Tom



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Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look

2013-06-19 Thread Joe Bernard

 *I will point out that several people reading the list reached out to me 
off line saying they would be very happy to use a quality hammock saddle 
made without leather.*
 
I will point out that nobody was arguing against the idea. You're the one 
who brought up dead animals in a thread about the Cambium, and that 
polarizing language is what I objected to.

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 7:40:58 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:

 You are misreading my original post on the topic if you think I am arguing 
 that all shell saddles are uncomfortable.  Rather, I said that Cambium 
 gives hope to those of us who find shell saddles uncomfortable and prefer 
 not to buy leather products.  I will point out that several people reading 
 the list reached out to me off line saying they would be very happy to use 
 a quality hammock saddle made without leather.
  
 I spent hundreds probably thousands of dollars on shell saddles between 
 1998 and 2005 or so.  If shell saddles worked for me, I would use them.  I 
 am glad they work for you.
  
 I am not aware of any scientific survey on padded shorts use among 
 cyclists.  The fact so many companies make and sell padded shorts and you 
 see so many people wearing them certainly suggests significant numbers use 
 them.  While this is good for the cycle industry economy, I question 
 whether enough end users have asked themselves why they need to wear padded 
 shorts to ride.
  
 Given my experience with shell saddles versus hammock, I believe at least 
 some percentage of people who use shell saddles and wear padded shorts will 
 find they no longer need the pads on a hammock saddle.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

2013-06-19 Thread cyclotourist

The epic continues: I put in skinny 18-23mm tubes and was able to seat the
beads on the tires. Inflated to 120psi and eft town for three days!

When I got home, Iswapped out the skinny tubes for proper sized 28-23mm
tubes. No problem at all! One even went on w/out using a lever, using hand
strength alone! No problem for road side repair either, as long as I'm
patient at the time. About 10 miles on them, and yep, they feel like tires.
No magic yet, but I'm still waiting. Hoping they're not as flat prone as
half the internet seems to think they are!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/9083953575/

Cheers,
David



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 Steve, that's the way I change all my tubes, so will stay with that
 technique! After three days sitting on the rim uninflated, it was *almost
 *hand-mountable. Not quite but close. I'm hoping that inflated for a few
 days it'll be fine to install with minimal effort. These sure have a
 specific installation procedure, that's for sure! They better make me a lot
 faster :-) I'm sure I'll like them, but a bit wary still re. punctures. The
 internets are split 50/50 whether they are more or the same resistant as
 other high performance tires. Will report back on that!

 Don, I have Velocity A23 rims. They're a full 23mm wide (Coincidence? I
 think not!).

 Joe, I had one of those at one time, bought from Rivendell circa 1995 or
 so. Didn't like it, in fact it bent on me and was almost unusable. Operator
 error I presume. As for current installation, my thumbs were plenty sore
 for a day, but no blood lost!

 Cheers,
 David



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 the clinchers, btw are a lot bigger than the tubulars.  The Strada
 clincher is every bit as big as the Parigi tubular.


 On Thursday, June 13, 2013 9:16:36 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

 I mounted a Strada clincher tonight, and it came out great.
 I dry-mounted the tire without a tube, then came back with tire irons
 and pulled off one side, inserted the tube and it worked great.
 I think the Stradas may be really stretchy, though.  I mounted a Parigi
 and Strada tubulars on my Moser, and it was a Lot easier to mount the Strada

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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Junior speculation

2013-06-19 Thread EGNolan

After allowing time to pass my money is now on the Clem Smith Jr lug being 
for 36'ers. It only makes sense. Riv/Grant have been firm believers in 
multiple wheel sizes for varying frame sizes. Those giganta Bombas  
Hilsens look good, but throw some 36'ers on 'em and proportions can stay 
closer to the same as the smaller sizes.
 
Examples of others:
http://dirtysixer.wordpress.com/
 
Best,
Eric Nolan
Indpls

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Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look

A comment meant as nothing more than a dramatic attempt to demonstrate why 
many people are in fact willing to pay a premium for a non-leather hammock 
saddle.  In hindsight I should have used one of those evil winky faces with 
those terms to make clear I had no intent to poke anyone in the eye.  
 
Apologies all around.
 
On point, it is certainly not yet clear thick laminated rubber and cotton 
can successfully replace animal skin in a hammock saddle.  Doc Martens 
among other high line shoe companies have finally come up with leather 
alternatives that are attractive, wear well, and seem to be durable.  If 
Brooks has finally found the right combination for hammock saddles, it will 
in fact have a market.

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Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look

2013-06-19 Thread Peter Morgano

I think (from what the marketing looks like at least) that they are trying
to penetrate the market that sees Brooks saddles as precious. There are a
lot of people that  think you cant get them wet, they need constant
maintenance and take 3 years to get comfortable. All are only partly right
but are myths that are for sure hurting the bottom line at Brooks. If they
can tout a saddle that is weather proof, low maintenance and comfortable
while having the quality feeling of a leather saddle they will for sure
have a winner on their hands, and if they get some vegan/vegetarian fans
along for the ride all the better for said bottom line.  I guess only time
will tell.


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 A comment meant as nothing more than a dramatic attempt to demonstrate why
 many people are in fact willing to pay a premium for a non-leather hammock
 saddle.  In hindsight I should have used one of those evil winky faces with
 those terms to make clear I had no intent to poke anyone in the eye.

 Apologies all around.

 On point, it is certainly not yet clear thick laminated rubber and cotton
 can successfully replace animal skin in a hammock saddle.  Doc Martens
 among other high line shoe companies have finally come up with leather
 alternatives that are attractive, wear well, and seem to be durable.  If
 Brooks has finally found the right combination for hammock saddles, it will
 in fact have a market.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Rambouillet

2013-06-19 Thread Eric

Email sent. I'm interested!



On Monday, June 17, 2013 5:00:56 PM UTC-5, Stmike wrote:

 Selling my as new Rivendell Rambouillet 58 cm bicycle. It has less than 
 250 miles on it and is in perfect condition. It is the beautiful forest 
 green color with white accents. It is built with the following componentry:
 Brooks saddle B.17 Steel/Honey
 Ultegra STI
 Ultegra rear derailer
 Ultegra 9 speed cassette
 Nitto seat post, handlebars, bottle cage
 and I'll throw in a Nigel Smythe tweed handlebar bag (pictured).
 Let me know if you'd like specific photos.
 $1500.


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[RBW] Re: wtb: Riv Rambouillet 58cm frameset (any color other than orange!)

2013-06-19 Thread Eric

Hey! I just saw your post! I just emailed you. Thanks!

- Eric

On Monday, June 17, 2013 4:34:59 PM UTC-5, Stmike wrote:

 I have a green one that I'm listing for sale.  Like new, only rode it 
 about 250 miles.  Email me.

 On Friday, April 26, 2013 12:56:12 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:

 Eh, the orange is nice, but I prefer the blue and green, too. 

 On Thursday, April 25, 2013 11:05:14 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 No Orange! What the heck, that's one of the best of all colors :-)

 Hugh

 On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 10:16:00 PM UTC-7, Eric wrote:

 Hey there! I'm looking for a 58cm Rambouillet in any color other than 
 orange. Not picky on paint condition but nothing with dings/dents. 
 Otherwise let's make a deal!! Thanks!! 



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[RBW] Re: Mt Hood NF S36O.

2013-06-19 Thread Shawn Granton

Mike- Looked like fun! I've ridden a lot of the route you did, and yep, 
it's a great ride. Have you tried Lolo Pass Road yet? Some great views and 
the east section (after the Pass) was some of my favorite riding of last 
year. I'm thinking about riding the Tour De Clack on Sunday June 30th which 
is going to explore the area around the Clackamas River just to the west of 
the National Forest. Should be some great scenery.
-Shawn


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[RBW] Re: FS/9-sp Ultegra group

2013-06-19 Thread RJM

I am pretty interested for my Roadeo build. Cosmetically, how is the set?
On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:21:13 AM UTC-5, Rich Lesnik wrote: 

 A friend has recently undergone surgery w/complications, and has a 9-sp 
 low-miles (like, maybe 200?) Ultegra group (minus hubs) for sale. Parts 
 listed below. Asking $400, incl. shipping to lower 48.

 Shimano 6503 triple crankset, 175mm + bottom bracket.
 Shimano 6503 rear derailluer, long cage.
 Shimano 6503 front derailluer.
 Shimano 6503 9 speed front  rear brifters.
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[RBW] FS: Carradice Barley Saddlebag-SQR Rack

2013-06-19 Thread Kellie Stapleton

Bumping up.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look

2013-06-19 Thread Steve Palincsar

On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 07:02 -0700, Matthew J wrote:
 On the commute today I noticed something - or more correctly thought
 of something I notice every day in a new light.  
  
 That is, the high percentage of people using plastic shell style
 saddles who wear padded shorts.  Reading accounts of cycle tourers
 back in the 70's through even the 90's, it is glaring how few people
 then wore padded shorts on tour.  Padded shorts were for racers who
 trained day in day out.  Not for commuters, casual riders, or even
 people doing an annual multi-day or even cross country tour.
  
 The cycling market has become so accustumed to padded shorts that no
 one asks what is it about most modern saddles that require special
 clothing for use?  I think those of us who use hammock saddles know
 the answer.

I've been using padded shorts with hammock saddles for 40 years.  



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[RBW] Re: Mt Hood NF S36O.

2013-06-19 Thread Mike

Thanks Shawn! I've ridden Lolo Pass a couple of times. Love it. When I 
reached Trillium Lake I had contemplated riding down to Parkdale and then 
taking FS Rd 16 to Lolo Pass Rd (FS 18) but decided against it. In July I 
may get away for a long day ride with a friend and we may start in Zigzag 
and do that loop in one day--Still Creek, Hwy 35 FS 16 and then FS 18 back 
to Zigzag. It would be a big day. 
 
Take pictures on Tour De Clack, I'm sure it'll be great. 
 
Last year we explored a FS road that went up the Collawash. Looked like if 
you kept going on the road it would loop back around towards Detroit Lake. 
 
--mike
 

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 9:42:53 AM UTC-7, Shawn Granton wrote:

 Mike- Looked like fun! I've ridden a lot of the route you did, and yep, 
 it's a great ride. Have you tried Lolo Pass Road yet? Some great views and 
 the east section (after the Pass) was some of my favorite riding of last 
 year. I'm thinking about riding the Tour De Clack on Sunday June 30th which 
 is going to explore the area around the Clackamas River just to the west of 
 the National Forest. Should be some great scenery. 
 -Shawn




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[RBW] DIY 40-26 questions

I'm intrigued by Grant's idea of 40-26 front gearing for my Sam Hillborne, 
but Riv is out of their wide-low cranks and there's actually nothing wrong 
with Sugino triple that's on there now. So I was wondering if it would be 
possible to just replace the middle ring with a 40, and either replace the 
outer ring with a bash guard or just leave it as is. Would the Tiagra 
triple derailler I have on there work well with this configuration? 
Obviously I could reset the limit screw to restrict its range to the inner 
and middle rings. But could I also lower the mounting position to match the 
middle ring? Or would the outer ring be in the way?

If it works, this would be a neat way to try out wide-low gearing for the 
price of 1 chain ring. Thoughts?

Jay


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[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-19 Thread Shoji Takahashi

Yes (assuming your Sugino triple is 110/74 BCD, which the XD2 from Riv is) 
-- you can change out the middle ring for a 40 and replace the outer (big) 
chainring with a guard.

If you're just trying it out, change the middle with the 40. After 
riding/testing, if the gearing is suitable for you, then swap out the outer 
for the guard.

From my experience, if your front derailer is working fine, I'd leave it 
alone. (I've managed to mess up perfectly adequate in attempting to fix 
it better too often to count. YMMV.) 

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:21:23 PM UTC-4, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:

 I'm intrigued by Grant's idea of 40-26 front gearing for my Sam Hillborne, 
 but Riv is out of their wide-low cranks and there's actually nothing wrong 
 with Sugino triple that's on there now. So I was wondering if it would be 
 possible to just replace the middle ring with a 40, and either replace the 
 outer ring with a bash guard or just leave it as is. Would the Tiagra 
 triple derailler I have on there work well with this configuration? 
 Obviously I could reset the limit screw to restrict its range to the inner 
 and middle rings. But could I also lower the mounting position to match the 
 middle ring? Or would the outer ring be in the way?

 If it works, this would be a neat way to try out wide-low gearing for the 
 price of 1 chain ring. Thoughts?

 Jay




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[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-19 Thread Ginz


Do folks with the wide/low find that they can hit all nine cogs while in 
either chainring?  Does moving the crank's chainline outboard a little bit 
help in that regard? Or, is that not necessary?

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[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

I assumed I would leave the chain line alone. WIth this setup I would be in 
the middle ring most of the time.  

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:43:26 PM UTC+3, Ginz wrote:


 Do folks with the wide/low find that they can hit all nine cogs while in 
 either chainring?  Does moving the crank's chainline outboard a little bit 
 help in that regard? Or, is that not necessary?

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[RBW] Re: FS- A Pair of Schwalbe Marathon Dureme 700x50

2013-06-19 Thread Garth


These are still waiting for someone to ride them . just itchin' to be 
installed and rollin' .

$155 shipped USA for the pair. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-19 Thread Dan McNamara

I created a wide low out of a triple XD2 for my wife's Betty Foy. Actually
I went 42/28 as the 9-speed cassette is a 12-34. No problems hitting all 9
cogs. Left the chainline where I would for a triple figuring that she wold
be on the large ring 90% of the time.

Dan

-Marin


On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.comwrote:

 I assumed I would leave the chain line alone. WIth this setup I would be
 in the middle ring most of the time.

 On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:43:26 PM UTC+3, Ginz wrote:


 Do folks with the wide/low find that they can hit all nine cogs while in
 either chainring?  Does moving the crank's chainline outboard a little bit
 help in that regard? Or, is that not necessary?

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Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-19 Thread Minh

yeah, the Sugino double with the chain-guard is really just a sugino 
triple.  so swapping out the big ring for a guard and the inner for a 26 
would work.

Can i ask what you have on your triple now?  i have a bashguard-40-34 
setup, and find the 34 is plenty low for me with my freewheel (ird 13-28), 
even loaded down for camping i find it ok.


On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:23:20 PM UTC-4, danmc wrote:

 I created a wide low out of a triple XD2 for my wife's Betty Foy. Actually 
 I went 42/28 as the 9-speed cassette is a 12-34. No problems hitting all 9 
 cogs. Left the chainline where I would for a triple figuring that she wold 
 be on the large ring 90% of the time.

 Dan

 -Marin


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 I assumed I would leave the chain line alone. WIth this setup I would be 
 in the middle ring most of the time.  

 On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:43:26 PM UTC+3, Ginz wrote:


 Do folks with the wide/low find that they can hit all nine cogs while in 
 either chainring?  Does moving the crank's chainline outboard a little bit 
 help in that regard? Or, is that not necessary?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look

 I've been using padded shorts with hammock saddles for 40 years.   

Context, please.  Would you have an adverse reaction if not?  I do not wear 
padded shorts and hammock saddles are the only saddle that work for me.

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Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look

 I think (from what the marketing looks like at least) that they are 
trying to penetrate the market that sees Brooks saddles as 
 precious.
 
Which never made sense to me.  A little proofide once a year and the things 
will last fifty years easy.  
 
 All are only partly right but are myths that are for sure hurting the 
bottom line at Brooks. 
 
Is Brooks having financial troubles?  The amount of new products coming out 
of Brooks the last few years has been impressive.

(I am very pleased with my John O'Groats panniers.)

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[RBW] Cracked Ramboullet Update

2013-06-19 Thread chris

Riv contacted me and will have Steve Rex in Sacramento fix the break and 
their paint person will repaint the re-brazed area all at no cost to me, so 
good news. Unfortunately, 6-8 week wait but it was very generous of Riv to 
do the repair at no cost. I'm the original owner, 2003 model, last of the 
orange ones. Can't wait to get it back!

Chris
San Jose

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[RBW] Re: New to Albas after drops/staches...did this happen to you?

2013-06-19 Thread blakcloud

I had a similar feeling when I went from a drop bar to Alba's. I felt like 
I wanted to sit further back and push the pedals if that makes sense. KOPS 
is something I totally disregard, place your saddle where it feels 
comfortable. In the end I stopped using the Alba's because the position was 
too upright and I wanted a slightly more aggressive position. The Alba's 
are going on the wife's Betty Foy if it ever arrives, so they weren't a 
total waste.  

On Monday, June 17, 2013 8:08:09 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:

 Sitting totally upright on Albas with my saddle in the ususal KOPS 
 position that I had with 'staches and drops, I feel like my saddle has 
 moved forward, but it hasn't (I checked).
 Feels like I am out in front of the pedals now when pedaling -  not 
 directly over them like I felt with the low drops position with KOPS. I 
 guess when you move your weight around to a different position a lot 
 changes.
  
 Nothing bad, I'll just move the saddle back if I feel the need. But for 
 now keeping the saddle the same as long as nothing hurts.
 Just a curious thing.
  
 Did you feel this when you switched to totally upright after being used to 
 a low drops position?
  
 I am enjoying the bolt upright position a lot. Nice views. No neck/hand 
 issues either so far. I hope it will make it more comfy to wear layers in 
 the winter.
 With drops, clothes get scrunched between my belly and thighs. Upright 
 really opens up the torso. Its a nice feeling.
  
  
  
  
  


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[RBW] Re: Quickest bar tape goo removal chemical?

2013-06-19 Thread Kieran J

Goo Gone

On Sunday, June 16, 2013 11:14:23 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:

 Anything just rips it right offa there?
  
 I am cleaning off a Noodle.


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Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look

2013-06-19 Thread Zoraster

I'm healing from Surgery. My bike rides are now limited to coffee shops and 
dining with the wife. My ride is no longer my comfy long distance tours (until 
next year). So for the comfy daily ride I switched to a nice Celeste Bianchi 
Milanno that fits perfect for these rides. Then I dreamed of the new Brooks 
Cambium on it. Yesterday I got my order in within 2 minutes of the email 
announcement of the special first edition ones. It's shipping already!  Wife 
getting my Bianchi saddle on her Breezer and that's good two. 

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[RBW] Re: Cracked XD Crank Arm ..... And the Earth Didn't Stop Rotating :)

2013-06-19 Thread blakcloud

Did you happen to read Jan Heine's article on cranks? It discusses cranks 
that are shorter or longer and why they are prone to fail. Good read at 
least for me. 
http://janheine.wordpress.com/2013/06/11/its-not-easy-to-be-honest/

On Monday, June 17, 2013 5:41:17 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote:

   I noticed this strange squiggly line coming from the drive side pedal 
 hole today, while may miles from home !   Oh well I thought, nothing to do 
 really, if it breaks it breaks  if not not. It didn't. When I got home 
 I removed the pedal to check if i could see the crack in the threads, but 
 could not. So I sanded off the anodizing at the spot until I could see it 
 no more. I hopped back on the bike and pushed down with all my weight on 
 the pedal, and lo and behold, the crack line reappeared .  Oyil well !   
 Funny thing is, it's not such a big deal !  I have another bike to ride and 
 I'll order another crank. Pretty simple . These are the 152mm XD's, which 
 no one here likely uses anyway. They are made of a slightly different mold 
 than the longer ones, but still XD's as labeled . 


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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Rambouillet

2013-06-19 Thread Stmike

Not a problem, Chris.  Just shoot me an email if you'd like to come by. 
 (If it's still here.)

On Monday, June 17, 2013 3:00:56 PM UTC-7, Stmike wrote:

 Selling my as new Rivendell Rambouillet 58 cm bicycle. It has less than 
 250 miles on it and is in perfect condition. It is the beautiful forest 
 green color with white accents. It is built with the following componentry:
 Brooks saddle B.17 Steel/Honey
 Ultegra STI
 Ultegra rear derailer
 Ultegra 9 speed cassette
 Nitto seat post, handlebars, bottle cage
 and I'll throw in a Nigel Smythe tweed handlebar bag (pictured).
 Let me know if you'd like specific photos.
 $1500.


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[RBW] Re: WTT: 14-34 5-speed freewheel

2013-06-19 Thread KurtA

I've been looking for a 14-34 Suntour freewheel to replace one on my bike. 
 Don't have a freewheel to trade... interested in selling it?

Thanks.

kurt

On Monday, April 1, 2013 9:53:04 AM UTC-4, C.J. Filip wrote:

 This 5-speed 14-34t Suntour freewheel is from an '86 Bridgestone T700.  I 
 replaced the original derailler (XT Deerhead) with a 90's XT model and even 
 with a longer B-tension screw, the new derailler just can't accommodate the 
 34t cog.

 I'd like to trade for a 30t or 32t max high gear 5-speed freewheel. 
  Doesn't have to be Suntour.  I'll throw in the Deerhead derailler if 
 sprucing it up for a period-specific resto is your thing.


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[RBW] FS: Nitto S83 Frog Seatpost / 27.2

2013-06-19 Thread ColonelJLloyd

For sale is a Nitto S83 seatpost that was used only for a short time, but 
does exhibit the common zig-zag marks. They're not deep and could be 
polished out if desired. The scratches will likely not be visible depending 
on your saddle height. 27.2mm.

*$70 shipped* in the CONUS. PayPal (net of fees), money order or personal 
check accepted. 

Thanks,
Justin

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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-19 Thread dougP

Manny:

Thanks for driving the stake.  I'll see you at El Chorro on Saturday 
afternoon.  

dougP

On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:59:58 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Mike this helps a lot. thanks!
 So details so far.


 Date: July 27-28
 Location: El Chorro campgrounds 

 I'm planing on leaving early sometime Saturday. Hoping getting there 
 sometime in the afternoon.

 This okay with everyone?

 On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:41:50 PM UTC-7, Mitch Browne wrote:

 Manny,

 I've been mostly keeping out of this discussion but will offer my local 
 insight here.

 I work at Cuesta College, half-way between SLO and Morro Bay. It also 
 happens to be directly across Highway 1 from El Chorro campground.

 I ride to work most days and the campus is right at the Marine curtain 
 between inland and coast influences. From my house in SLO 8 miles away I 
 can never predict what the weather will be close to campus. It's a nice mix 
 of sunny 6:30 mornings or maybe misting fog. This morning it was foggy all 
 the way to the coast. yesterday it was sunny though foggy on the coast.

 Summer is foggy most days in Morro Bay. I like the fog for a few miles 
 but once I get wet and start to cool I appreciate sunshine. Your chances 
 are good that you will see fog most of the day and night at Morro Strand 
 campground. You're likely to see sun sometime in the morning at El Chorro. 
 Chance are you'll see sun even sooner in SLO.

 We just hired a new web programmer from Hanford who camped at El Chorro 
 last week. He said they have lots of primitive campsites that are 
 first-come-first-served, no reservations. He added that the $1 in quarters 
 gets you 10 minutes of hot shower water.It's a county park staffed by 
 county rangers who close up about 5pm.

 IF the Hostel were still an alternative I'll try to think of a place you 
 might be able to store bikes for the night but none come immediately to 
 mind. The Hostel is about 200 feet down a small hill from the train 
 station. Doug, bike parking appears to be in a rack along the Hostel 
 driveway entrance. I'll try to stop by after work and ask about bike 
 parking and maybe take pictures.

 If you're planning on riding toward the coast I'd recommend gloves, wool, 
 and some sort of beanie.

 There is much to do for everyone but little time ;) Cheers, Mitch




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 manueljo...@hotmail.comwrote:

 Seems like we are having trouble with camping grounds.

 Here's my proposed idea. I don't know how a handful of folks feel about 
 it. BUT this could work out with some local knowledge around the area.

 We could all meet (via car or bike or train or spaceship) at a 
 designated spot. 

 Then we ride to a STEALH camping location good enough for a good group 
 of folks. Then ride Sunday Morning somewhere. 

 I don't know how big of a group we are having but if I'm sure we can get 
 a head count. 

 I try not to over think this things. We can worry about camp showers and 
 water but seriously it's just going to be a night. 

 Any thoughts?

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Re: [RBW] DIY 40-26 questions

I did this with the X2D that came originally from a Sam and went on my
Fargo. It how has a 39 t (equivalent) guard in the outer position, and a 38
and 24 in the middle and inner. I use the same LX fd, just moved it lower
-- it works fine (no reason why it shouldn't:; it worked fine with the
36/24). I moved from 7 to 9 cogs to keep the range and the gaps. Great
gearing for a mostly off road bike.

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm intrigued by Grant's idea of 40-26 front gearing for my Sam Hillborne,
 but Riv is out of their wide-low cranks and there's actually nothing wrong
 with Sugino triple that's on there now. So I was wondering if it would be
 possible to just replace the middle ring with a 40, and either replace the
 outer ring with a bash guard or just leave it as is. Would the Tiagra
 triple derailler I have on there work well with this configuration?
 Obviously I could reset the limit screw to restrict its range to the inner
 and middle rings. But could I also lower the mounting position to match the
 middle ring? Or would the outer ring be in the way?

 If it works, this would be a neat way to try out wide-low gearing for the
 price of 1 chain ring. Thoughts?

 Jay


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[RBW] Re: Cracked Ramboullet Update

2013-06-19 Thread dougP

That sounds like real product support that means something.  Under the 
circumstances the wait time is doesn't sound too bad.  

dougP

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:17:08 AM UTC-7, chris wrote:

 Riv contacted me and will have Steve Rex in Sacramento fix the break and 
 their paint person will repaint the re-brazed area all at no cost to me, so 
 good news. Unfortunately, 6-8 week wait but it was very generous of Riv to 
 do the repair at no cost. I'm the original owner, 2003 model, last of the 
 orange ones. Can't wait to get it back!

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 San Jose


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Re: [RBW] Re: WTT: 14-34 5-speed freewheel

If you can't find one onlist, try the freewheel spa. I know I sold him one
or two last year and he seems to have quite a collection of fws.

http://www.freewheelspa.com

On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:31 PM, KurtA kurtamesb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been looking for a 14-34 Suntour freewheel to replace one on my bike.
  Don't have a freewheel to trade... interested in selling it?

 Thanks.

 kurt

 On Monday, April 1, 2013 9:53:04 AM UTC-4, C.J. Filip wrote:

 This 5-speed 14-34t Suntour freewheel is from an '86 Bridgestone T700.  I
 replaced the original derailler (XT Deerhead) with a 90's XT model and even
 with a longer B-tension screw, the new derailler just can't accommodate the
 34t cog.

 I'd like to trade for a 30t or 32t max high gear 5-speed freewheel.
  Doesn't have to be Suntour.  I'll throw in the Deerhead derailler if
 sprucing it up for a period-specific resto is your thing.

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Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

My current setup is basically MTB gearing - 26-36-46 in front and a 9 speed 
11-34 cassette.
I hardly ever use the granny because it's pretty flat where I live. But I 
do use it when I hit the hills loaded. Most of the time I am in the middle 
or big ring and smaller cogs. The wide-low concept seems perfect for me. It 
would gives me an incredibly useful range of 32-98 inches without shifting 
up front, and a low range of 21-64 when needed.

I could simplify even more by going 1X9, but I'm not sure what the benefit 
would be. 

Jay

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:28:07 PM UTC+3, Minh wrote:

 yeah, the Sugino double with the chain-guard is really just a sugino 
 triple.  so swapping out the big ring for a guard and the inner for a 26 
 would work.

 Can i ask what you have on your triple now?  i have a bashguard-40-34 
 setup, and find the 34 is plenty low for me with my freewheel (ird 13-28), 
 even loaded down for camping i find it ok.


 On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:23:20 PM UTC-4, danmc wrote:

 I created a wide low out of a triple XD2 for my wife's Betty Foy. 
 Actually I went 42/28 as the 9-speed cassette is a 12-34. No problems 
 hitting all 9 cogs. Left the chainline where I would for a triple figuring 
 that she wold be on the large ring 90% of the time.

 Dan

 -Marin


 On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Jay in Tel Aviv jayi...@gmail.comwrote:

 I assumed I would leave the chain line alone. WIth this setup I would be 
 in the middle ring most of the time.  

 On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:43:26 PM UTC+3, Ginz wrote:


 Do folks with the wide/low find that they can hit all nine cogs while 
 in either chainring?  Does moving the crank's chainline outboard a little 
 bit help in that regard? Or, is that not necessary?

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Re: [RBW] Re: New to Albas after drops/staches...did this happen to you?

This is an interesting phenomenon. I've often thought about it, since I
find that I need a certain amount of bend at the hips to feel comfortable
when pedaling, and I can't get that with a steepish standard seat tube and
high and close bars. I notice that Dutch city bikes and English roadsters
have very slack seat tube angles, steeper than the standard 71 and upward
range.

I wonder what the muscular use/power output relationship is to saddle
setback (ie, behind crank axle) as well as of bend at the hips -- ie, if
you have two discrete and separate factors, namely hip behind crank axle
and bend at hip, and what the effect of each separately is?

On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:17 PM, blakcloud blakclou...@gmail.com wrote:

 I had a similar feeling when I went from a drop bar to Alba's. I felt like
 I wanted to sit further back and push the pedals if that makes sense. KOPS
 is something I totally disregard, place your saddle where it feels
 comfortable. In the end I stopped using the Alba's because the position was
 too upright and I wanted a slightly more aggressive position. The Alba's
 are going on the wife's Betty Foy if it ever arrives, so they weren't a
 total waste.

 On Monday, June 17, 2013 8:08:09 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:

 Sitting totally upright on Albas with my saddle in the ususal KOPS
 position that I had with 'staches and drops, I feel like my saddle has
 moved forward, but it hasn't (I checked).
 Feels like I am out in front of the pedals now when pedaling -  not
 directly over them like I felt with the low drops position with KOPS. I
 guess when you move your weight around to a different position a lot
 changes.

 Nothing bad, I'll just move the saddle back if I feel the need. But for
 now keeping the saddle the same as long as nothing hurts.
 Just a curious thing.

 Did you feel this when you switched to totally upright after being used
 to a low drops position?

 I am enjoying the bolt upright position a lot. Nice views. No neck/hand
 issues either so far. I hope it will make it more comfy to wear layers in
 the winter.
 With drops, clothes get scrunched between my belly and thighs. Upright
 really opens up the torso. Its a nice feeling.






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Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look

2013-06-19 Thread Steve Palincsar

On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 13:34 -0700, Matthew J wrote:
  I've been using padded shorts with hammock saddles for 40 years.   
 
 Context, please.  Would you have an adverse reaction if not?  I do not
 wear padded shorts and hammock saddles are the only saddle that work
 for me.

I will never forget my first century attempt.  1973, shorts that are cut
off denim jeans with Y fronts underneath, no gloves, sneakers.  By the
time I got to mile 75 there was no part of me that came into contact
with the bike that didn't hurt.  Hands were on fire; feet were in pain
from where the top clips pressed on my big toe nails and where the front
and back edges of the Campagnolo pedals had dug trenches into them; and
I developed a new understanding of the Johnny Cash song Burning Ring of
Fire that I've never been able to forget.

I started wearing riding shorts after that ride.  Gloves and cycling
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[RBW] WTB - Nitto Lugged Seatpost

2013-06-19 Thread Aaron Schmidt

I need more setback on my Sam! I keep thinking that I'll swap out my Albas 
for drops to see if that solves my setback problem, but I like riding with 
the Albas too much to monkey around.

Perhaps you bought the fanciest of seatposts thinking you needed a lot of 
setback and it turned out you didn't. Or maybe you bought it because it is 
pretty and for some reason aren't using it. Either way, please let me know 
if you're looking to unload it.

(I'm currently running a good condition S83 that I'll no longer need if 
you're into doing a partial trade).

Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Rambouillet

2013-06-19 Thread Chris Burgess

Will do. Can't wait!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Stmike mikestamm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not a problem, Chris.  Just shoot me an email if you'd like to come by.  (If 
 it's still here.)
 
 On Monday, June 17, 2013 3:00:56 PM UTC-7, Stmike wrote:
 
 Selling my as new Rivendell Rambouillet 58 cm bicycle. It has less than 250 
 miles on it and is in perfect condition. It is the beautiful forest green 
 color with white accents. It is built with the following componentry:
 Brooks saddle B.17 Steel/Honey
 Ultegra STI
 Ultegra rear derailer
 Ultegra 9 speed cassette
 Nitto seat post, handlebars, bottle cage
 and I'll throw in a Nigel Smythe tweed handlebar bag (pictured).
 Let me know if you'd like specific photos.
 $1500.
 
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look

Human factors are fascinating.  Certainly respect that you made it work 
rather than give up.

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Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-19 Thread Edwin W

I have the 40/26, with 11-32 8 speed in back. I use the bike for commuting 
and occasionally have a kid on the back. I don't have a front derailer yet, 
but if I ever use the granny (haven't yet), I might consider a front 
derailer.

I reach all 8 rear cogs with no problems, friction bar end shifter.

Edwin - 1x8 is great

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:54:37 PM UTC-5, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:

 My current setup is basically MTB gearing - 26-36-46 in front and a 9 
 speed 11-34 cassette.
 I hardly ever use the granny because it's pretty flat where I live. But I 
 do use it when I hit the hills loaded. Most of the time I am in the middle 
 or big ring and smaller cogs. The wide-low concept seems perfect for me. It 
 would gives me an incredibly useful range of 32-98 inches without shifting 
 up front, and a low range of 21-64 when needed.

 I could simplify even more by going 1X9, but I'm not sure what the benefit 
 would be. 

 Jay

 On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:28:07 PM UTC+3, Minh wrote:

 yeah, the Sugino double with the chain-guard is really just a sugino 
 triple.  so swapping out the big ring for a guard and the inner for a 26 
 would work.

 Can i ask what you have on your triple now?  i have a bashguard-40-34 
 setup, and find the 34 is plenty low for me with my freewheel (ird 13-28), 
 even loaded down for camping i find it ok.


 On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:23:20 PM UTC-4, danmc wrote:

 I created a wide low out of a triple XD2 for my wife's Betty Foy. 
 Actually I went 42/28 as the 9-speed cassette is a 12-34. No problems 
 hitting all 9 cogs. Left the chainline where I would for a triple figuring 
 that she wold be on the large ring 90% of the time.

 Dan

 -Marin


 On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Jay in Tel Aviv jayi...@gmail.comwrote:

 I assumed I would leave the chain line alone. WIth this setup I would 
 be in the middle ring most of the time.  

 On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:43:26 PM UTC+3, Ginz wrote:


 Do folks with the wide/low find that they can hit all nine cogs while 
 in either chainring?  Does moving the crank's chainline outboard a little 
 bit help in that regard? Or, is that not necessary?

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[RBW] Re: Cracked Ramboullet Update

2013-06-19 Thread Shoji Takahashi

Agreed-- great customer support. It's a tricky balance dealing with 
customers, but I think GP and Riv do it right. (And no, the customer is not 
always right!)



On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:53:57 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote:

 That sounds like real product support that means something.  Under the 
 circumstances the wait time is doesn't sound too bad.  

 dougP

 On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:17:08 AM UTC-7, chris wrote:

 Riv contacted me and will have Steve Rex in Sacramento fix the break and 
 their paint person will repaint the re-brazed area all at no cost to me, so 
 good news. Unfortunately, 6-8 week wait but it was very generous of Riv to 
 do the repair at no cost. I'm the original owner, 2003 model, last of the 
 orange ones. Can't wait to get it back!

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 San Jose



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Re: [RBW] Re: New to Albas after drops/staches...did this happen to you?

2013-06-19 Thread Matt Beebe

I remember reading in the blug or maybe RR that some Rivendell models might 
have been designed with slacker ST angles than ~72, except that there is a 
point where front derailleurs become difficult or impossible to fit, due to 
the angle of incidence between the chainstay and seattube.I thought 
that may have been the reason why the Rosco Bubbe did not have a front 
derailleur option -   because the ST angle was less than 71 degrees or 
whatever that threshold is. In any case, I am pretty sure Rivs are 
designed to have as slack a seat tube angle as possible while still 
allowing their versatile/all-purpose philosophy. 


Matt


On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:01:44 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

 This is an interesting phenomenon. I've often thought about it, since I 
 find that I need a certain amount of bend at the hips to feel comfortable 
 when pedaling, and I can't get that with a steepish standard seat tube and 
 high and close bars. I notice that Dutch city bikes and English roadsters 
 have very slack seat tube angles, steeper than the standard 71 and upward 
 range.

 I wonder what the muscular use/power output relationship is to saddle 
 setback (ie, behind crank axle) as well as of bend at the hips -- ie, if 
 you have two discrete and separate factors, namely hip behind crank axle 
 and bend at hip, and what the effect of each separately is?

 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:17 PM, blakcloud blakc...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 I had a similar feeling when I went from a drop bar to Alba's. I felt 
 like I wanted to sit further back and push the pedals if that makes sense. 
 KOPS is something I totally disregard, place your saddle where it feels 
 comfortable. In the end I stopped using the Alba's because the position was 
 too upright and I wanted a slightly more aggressive position. The Alba's 
 are going on the wife's Betty Foy if it ever arrives, so they weren't a 
 total waste.  

 On Monday, June 17, 2013 8:08:09 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:

 Sitting totally upright on Albas with my saddle in the ususal KOPS 
 position that I had with 'staches and drops, I feel like my saddle has 
 moved forward, but it hasn't (I checked).
 Feels like I am out in front of the pedals now when pedaling -  not 
 directly over them like I felt with the low drops position with KOPS. I 
 guess when you move your weight around to a different position a lot 
 changes.
  
 Nothing bad, I'll just move the saddle back if I feel the need. But for 
 now keeping the saddle the same as long as nothing hurts.
 Just a curious thing.
  
 Did you feel this when you switched to totally upright after being used 
 to a low drops position?
  
 I am enjoying the bolt upright position a lot. Nice views. No neck/hand 
 issues either so far. I hope it will make it more comfy to wear layers in 
 the winter.
 With drops, clothes get scrunched between my belly and thighs. Upright 
 really opens up the torso. Its a nice feeling.
  
  
  
  
  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look

2013-06-19 Thread Peter Morgano

Is Brooks having financial troubles?  The amount of new products coming
out of Brooks the last few years has been impressive.

I work in the financial sector and every company outside of super exclusive
brands wants to expand their customer base and therefore profits, pretty
simple capitalism at work.


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 rather than give up.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look

2013-06-19 Thread Eric Platt

Another data point.  I was in the habit of wearing padded short liners on a
hammock saddle.  Then a while went with just underwear.  Because of the way
I sit on the rear cantle of the saddle, this ended up causing a physical
problem.  Moved over to an older Terry saddle and the problem went away
with padded shorts.

Starting this year, decided to try the hammock with padded again.
Unfortunately the same physical issue appeared.  Once again back to the
Terry and no problem.

It could be the issues had nothing to do with the change of clothing, but
after having it happen twice, am not going to risk it again.  Just as
likely it is my excessive weight on the saddle causing the issue.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN


On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 13:34 -0700, Matthew J wrote:
   I've been using padded shorts with hammock saddles for 40 years.
 
  Context, please.  Would you have an adverse reaction if not?  I do not
  wear padded shorts and hammock saddles are the only saddle that work
  for me.

 I will never forget my first century attempt.  1973, shorts that are cut
 off denim jeans with Y fronts underneath, no gloves, sneakers.  By the
 time I got to mile 75 there was no part of me that came into contact
 with the bike that didn't hurt.  Hands were on fire; feet were in pain
 from where the top clips pressed on my big toe nails and where the front
 and back edges of the Campagnolo pedals had dug trenches into them; and
 I developed a new understanding of the Johnny Cash song Burning Ring of
 Fire that I've never been able to forget.

 I started wearing riding shorts after that ride.  Gloves and cycling
 shoes, too.





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[RBW] Compass 26 tire vs. Soma New Express 26 tire.

2013-06-19 Thread clayton

I just did a picture comparison between the two. They have exactly the same 
tread. Both are made in Japan. Both claim low rolling resistance. Soma's 
are cheaper by about ten to 20 bucks and come in terracotta and cream as 
well as black. I think Compass tires and the Somas are the same tire, made 
by Panaracer. Does anyone know for sure?
The terra cotta would look groovy on my olive green Atlantis.;)

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[RBW] Re: WTB - Nitto Lugged Seatpost

2013-06-19 Thread Joe Bernard

There's one on Ebay right now, but it's on the way to being bid into the 
stratosphere. Good Luck.

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 2:14:19 PM UTC-7, Aaron Schmidt wrote:

 I need more setback on my Sam! I keep thinking that I'll swap out my Albas 
 for drops to see if that solves my setback problem, but I like riding with 
 the Albas too much to monkey around.

 Perhaps you bought the fanciest of seatposts thinking you needed a lot of 
 setback and it turned out you didn't. Or maybe you bought it because it is 
 pretty and for some reason aren't using it. Either way, please let me know 
 if you're looking to unload it.

 (I'm currently running a good condition S83 that I'll no longer need if 
 you're into doing a partial trade).

 Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Compass 26 tire vs. Soma New Express 26 tire.

2013-06-19 Thread Steve Palincsar

On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 15:26 -0700, clayton wrote:
 I just did a picture comparison between the two. They have exactly the
 same tread. Both are made in Japan. Both claim low rolling resistance.
 Soma's are cheaper by about ten to 20 bucks and come in terracotta and
 cream as well as black. I think Compass tires and the Somas are the
 same tire, made by Panaracer. Does anyone know for sure?


Both Compass 26″ tires are made by Panaracer using their Pasela molds.
However, what goes into the mold is very different from a Pasela: We use
a high-end casing and ultra-grippy tread rubber – in fact, the same
materials as for the Grand Bois tires. The result is a 26″ tire that
offers the ride and feel of a high-end tire, which is very different
from the common 26-inch “slick” tires that are made with sturdy casings
and mediocre rubber.
-- http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/11/11/compass-26-x-1-5-tires/

So: I would expect the tread shape is the same, but the materials are
most likely different.




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[RBW] Saluki love tires

2013-06-19 Thread Michael Hechmer

I am loving my new Saluki with Pari- Moto tires.  What a blend of comfort  
performance!  But I am also looking ahead and wondering if the Heters will 
fit under the VO Al fenders.  It looks like a kinda tight fit.  Any 
experience?

Michael

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Re: [RBW] Re: New to Albas after drops/staches...did this happen to you?

2013-06-19 Thread Garth


The original Stumpjumpers had a ST angle of 70 degrees and it used standard 
triple front deraillers. I never had an issue using any FD with it. So, 
it's not that, but* combined *with a *deep drop BB* that Riv prefers, now 
we have an issue !  


On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:37:30 PM UTC-4, Matt Beebe wrote:

 I remember reading in the blug or maybe RR that some Rivendell models 
 might have been designed with slacker ST angles than ~72, except that there 
 is a point where front derailleurs become difficult or impossible to fit, 
 due to the angle of incidence between the chainstay and seattube.I 
 thought that may have been the reason why the Rosco Bubbe did not have a 
 front derailleur option -   because the ST angle was less than 71 degrees 
 or whatever that threshold is. In any case, I am pretty sure Rivs are 
 designed to have as slack a seat tube angle as possible while still 
 allowing their versatile/all-purpose philosophy. 


 Matt


 On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:01:44 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

 This is an interesting phenomenon. I've often thought about it, since I 
 find that I need a certain amount of bend at the hips to feel comfortable 
 when pedaling, and I can't get that with a steepish standard seat tube and 
 high and close bars. I notice that Dutch city bikes and English roadsters 
 have very slack seat tube angles, steeper than the standard 71 and upward 
 range.

 I wonder what the muscular use/power output relationship is to saddle 
 setback (ie, behind crank axle) as well as of bend at the hips -- ie, if 
 you have two discrete and separate factors, namely hip behind crank axle 
 and bend at hip, and what the effect of each separately is?

 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:17 PM, blakcloud blakc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I had a similar feeling when I went from a drop bar to Alba's. I felt 
 like I wanted to sit further back and push the pedals if that makes sense. 
 KOPS is something I totally disregard, place your saddle where it feels 
 comfortable. In the end I stopped using the Alba's because the position was 
 too upright and I wanted a slightly more aggressive position. The Alba's 
 are going on the wife's Betty Foy if it ever arrives, so they weren't a 
 total waste.  

 On Monday, June 17, 2013 8:08:09 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:

 Sitting totally upright on Albas with my saddle in the ususal KOPS 
 position that I had with 'staches and drops, I feel like my saddle has 
 moved forward, but it hasn't (I checked).
 Feels like I am out in front of the pedals now when pedaling -  not 
 directly over them like I felt with the low drops position with KOPS. I 
 guess when you move your weight around to a different position a lot 
 changes.
  
 Nothing bad, I'll just move the saddle back if I feel the need. But for 
 now keeping the saddle the same as long as nothing hurts.
 Just a curious thing.
  
 Did you feel this when you switched to totally upright after being used 
 to a low drops position?
  
 I am enjoying the bolt upright position a lot. Nice views. No neck/hand 
 issues either so far. I hope it will make it more comfy to wear layers in 
 the winter.
 With drops, clothes get scrunched between my belly and thighs. Upright 
 really opens up the torso. Its a nice feeling.
  
  
  
  
  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

2013-06-19 Thread Ron Mc

This might be Pandora's box, but the tubulars are built around latex tubes. 
 I've been running nothing but latex tubes, Vittoria and Challenge for the 
past 2 years.  In Panaracers and in my daughter's new Stradas.  You have to 
pump them more often (not when you're riding, just cold), but the ride 
difference is noticeable.  Google will find them around $11/12/per. The 
challenge cross latex tubes are great for 28-35mm, which is close enough 
for the Strada clinchers.  

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:24:36 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 The epic continues: I put in skinny 18-23mm tubes and was able to seat the 
 beads on the tires. Inflated to 120psi and eft town for three days! 

 When I got home, Iswapped out the skinny tubes for proper sized 28-23mm 
 tubes. No problem at all! One even went on w/out using a lever, using hand 
 strength alone! No problem for road side repair either, as long as I'm 
 patient at the time. About 10 miles on them, and yep, they feel like tires. 
 No magic yet, but I'm still waiting. Hoping they're not as flat prone as 
 half the internet seems to think they are!

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/9083953575/

 Cheers,
 David



 On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:07 PM, cyclotourist 
 cyclot...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Steve, that's the way I change all my tubes, so will stay with that 
 technique! After three days sitting on the rim uninflated, it was *almost 
 *hand-mountable. Not quite but close. I'm hoping that inflated for a few 
 days it'll be fine to install with minimal effort. These sure have a 
 specific installation procedure, that's for sure! They better make me a lot 
 faster :-) I'm sure I'll like them, but a bit wary still re. punctures. The 
 internets are split 50/50 whether they are more or the same resistant as 
 other high performance tires. Will report back on that!

 Don, I have Velocity A23 rims. They're a full 23mm wide (Coincidence? I 
 think not!).

 Joe, I had one of those at one time, bought from Rivendell circa 1995 or 
 so. Didn't like it, in fact it bent on me and was almost unusable. Operator 
 error I presume. As for current installation, my thumbs were plenty sore 
 for a day, but no blood lost!

 Cheers,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

2013-06-19 Thread Eric Norris

Are latex tubes vegan? Just wondering.

--Eric N
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On Jun 19, 2013, at 4:04 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 This might be Pandora's box, but the tubulars are built around latex tubes.  
 I've been running nothing but latex tubes, Vittoria and Challenge for the 
 past 2 years.  In Panaracers and in my daughter's new Stradas.  You have to 
 pump them more often (not when you're riding, just cold), but the ride 
 difference is noticeable.  Google will find them around $11/12/per. The 
 challenge cross latex tubes are great for 28-35mm, which is close enough for 
 the Strada clinchers.  
 
 On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:24:36 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The epic continues: I put in skinny 18-23mm tubes and was able to seat the 
 beads on the tires. Inflated to 120psi and eft town for three days! 
 
 When I got home, Iswapped out the skinny tubes for proper sized 28-23mm 
 tubes. No problem at all! One even went on w/out using a lever, using hand 
 strength alone! No problem for road side repair either, as long as I'm 
 patient at the time. About 10 miles on them, and yep, they feel like tires. 
 No magic yet, but I'm still waiting. Hoping they're not as flat prone as 
 half the internet seems to think they are!
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/9083953575/
 
 Cheers,
 David
 
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:07 PM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
 Steve, that's the way I change all my tubes, so will stay with that 
 technique! After three days sitting on the rim uninflated, it was almost 
 hand-mountable. Not quite but close. I'm hoping that inflated for a few 
 days it'll be fine to install with minimal effort. These sure have a 
 specific installation procedure, that's for sure! They better make me a lot 
 faster :-) I'm sure I'll like them, but a bit wary still re. punctures. The 
 internets are split 50/50 whether they are more or the same resistant as 
 other high performance tires. Will report back on that!
 
 Don, I have Velocity A23 rims. They're a full 23mm wide (Coincidence? I 
 think not!).
 
 Joe, I had one of those at one time, bought from Rivendell circa 1995 or 
 so. Didn't like it, in fact it bent on me and was almost unusable. Operator 
 error I presume. As for current installation, my thumbs were plenty sore 
 for a day, but no blood lost!
 
 Cheers,
 David
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[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-19 Thread reynoldslugs

The set up works fine.  Here are pictures of a Gunnar CX/commuter with 
40-26:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157628055130729/

Cassette is 9-speed 11-36.  It works fine.  I use only the upper or lower 7 
cogs, depending on which chainring I'm in. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

2013-06-19 Thread cyclotourist

Interesting... maybe an upgrade in the future. Although it wasn't the butyl
tubes that were keeping the tires from going on well, just the design of
their open tubular tires.

Cheers,
David

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

This might be Pandora's box, but the tubulars are built around latex
tubes. I've been running nothing but latex tubes, Vittoria and Challenge
for the past 2 years. In Panaracers and in my daughter's new Stradas. You
have to pump them more often (not when you're riding, just cold), but the
ride difference is noticeable. Google will find them around
$11/12/per. The challenge cross latex tubes are great for 28-35mm, which is
close enough for the Strada clinchers.

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:24:36 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

The epic continues: I put in skinny 18-23mm tubes and was able to seat
the beads on the tires. Inflated to 120psi and eft town for three days!

When I got home, Iswapped out the skinny tubes for proper sized 28-23mm
tubes. No problem at all! One even went on w/out using a lever, using hand
strength alone! No problem for road side repair either, as long as I'm
patient at the time. About 10 miles on them, and yep, they feel like tires.
No magic yet, but I'm still waiting. Hoping they're not as flat prone as
half the internet seems to think they are!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/**cyclotourist/9083953575/http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/9083953575/

Cheers,
David

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:07 PM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.comwrote:

Steve, that's the way I change all my tubes, so will stay with that
technique! After three days sitting on the rim uninflated, it was *almost
*hand-mountable. Not quite but close. I'm hoping that inflated for a
few days it'll be fine to install with minimal effort. These sure have a
specific installation procedure, that's for sure! They better make me a lot
faster :-) I'm sure I'll like them, but a bit wary still re. punctures. The
internets are split 50/50 whether they are more or the same resistant as
other high performance tires. Will report back on that!

Don, I have Velocity A23 rims. They're a full 23mm wide (Coincidence? I
think not!).

Joe, I had one of those at one time, bought from Rivendell circa 1995 or
so. Didn't like it, in fact it bent on me and was almost unusable. Operator
error I presume. As for current installation, my thumbs were plenty sore
for a day, but no blood lost!

Cheers,
David

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[RBW] Re: FS: Carradice Barley Saddlebag-SQR Rack

2013-06-19 Thread Kellie Stapleton

Rack is sold. Carradice Barley still available.

On Monday, June 17, 2013 5:45:02 PM UTC-7, Kellie Stapleton wrote:

 Almost new, barely used, in excellent condition a Carradice Barley 
 Saddlebag (green with honey straps) and SQR rack (attaches to seat post, 
 quick release). Love it but not big enough for all I have to carry to work 
 when commuting. Will sell separately. Barley lists for $109, SQR is $66 at 
 Wallbike. Asking $90 for Barley and $50 for rack, plus shipping unless we 
 can rendezvous.

 Contact: Kellie @:  kl...@me.com


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[RBW] Re: Sam H starring in film

2013-06-19 Thread Kellie Stapleton

love watching this video

On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:23:01 PM UTC-7, Tom Goodmann wrote:

 Am I the last person on this list to see this?  Apologies if this is old 
 news--haven't found a thread on it.  Apparently won praise at 2012 cycling 
 film festival: http://vimeo.com/46103673  Both bikes moustachioed, too.

 Tom


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[RBW] Re: Compass 26 tire vs. Soma New Express 26 tire.

2013-06-19 Thread Mike Schiller

...the question was comparing the Soma New Express to the Compass tire. 
(not Paselas).  All  3 are made by Panaracer.
The New Express has an added Hypertex casing for flat resistance and so 
would be a little stiffer ride but not as bad as the Tour Guard Paselas is 
the rumor. 
So...not the same tire.

~mike



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Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-19 Thread Michael Hechmer

It's just as easy to get infatuated with low gears you never or rarely use 
as it is with hi gears.  I use a 44/30 with an 11-28 in the rolling 
countryside of Vt. on an unloaded Ram. It works great for me.  This gives 
me all the convenience of a double with all but 1 low gear of a triple. 
 Don't drive yourself crazy over one gear at the top or the bottom.  There 
are other variables to consider, with every choice requiring trade offs. 
 Consider how far apart the ratio choices are physically located.  If you 
have lots of choices but they require multiple and double shifts you can 
spend a lot of momentum searching for the next gear.  Also, consider  how 
close you want the gears to be.  Wide range cassettes always sacrifice easy 
jumps.  You can find yourself shifting from too hard to much too easy; my 
stoker screams a lot when that happens. 

There is a lot of logic behind some popular options.  14 teeth between 
outer and middle rings provides a wide range of gears and a rational 
shifting pattern.  10 teeth provides crisper shifting, especially in a 
triple, but limits range.  Try to find out what really works for you.  I 
like 44/30 on a double but prefer 48/34/26 on a single bike and 48/38/26 on 
the tandem.  

I am willing to struggle a bit on the steepest hills in order to have 
crisper shifting a tighter ratios most of the time.  As a generalization I 
would offer that shorter cage detailers usually offer more predictable, 
quicker shifting than longer cages, but that also implies less range 
between the hi and lo, which brings me back to my original point.  What do 
you most want and what are you willing to do with out.

Michael



On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:31:46 PM UTC-4, Edwin W wrote:

 I have the 40/26, with 11-32 8 speed in back. I use the bike for commuting 
 and occasionally have a kid on the back. I don't have a front derailer yet, 
 but if I ever use the granny (haven't yet), I might consider a front 
 derailer.

 I reach all 8 rear cogs with no problems, friction bar end shifter.

 Edwin - 1x8 is great

 On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:54:37 PM UTC-5, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:

 My current setup is basically MTB gearing - 26-36-46 in front and a 9 
 speed 11-34 cassette.
 I hardly ever use the granny because it's pretty flat where I live. But I 
 do use it when I hit the hills loaded. Most of the time I am in the middle 
 or big ring and smaller cogs. The wide-low concept seems perfect for me. It 
 would gives me an incredibly useful range of 32-98 inches without shifting 
 up front, and a low range of 21-64 when needed.

 I could simplify even more by going 1X9, but I'm not sure what the 
 benefit would be. 

 Jay

 On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:28:07 PM UTC+3, Minh wrote:

 yeah, the Sugino double with the chain-guard is really just a sugino 
 triple.  so swapping out the big ring for a guard and the inner for a 26 
 would work.

 Can i ask what you have on your triple now?  i have a bashguard-40-34 
 setup, and find the 34 is plenty low for me with my freewheel (ird 13-28), 
 even loaded down for camping i find it ok.


 On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:23:20 PM UTC-4, danmc wrote:

 I created a wide low out of a triple XD2 for my wife's Betty Foy. 
 Actually I went 42/28 as the 9-speed cassette is a 12-34. No problems 
 hitting all 9 cogs. Left the chainline where I would for a triple figuring 
 that she wold be on the large ring 90% of the time.

 Dan

 -Marin


 On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Jay in Tel Aviv jayi...@gmail.comwrote:

 I assumed I would leave the chain line alone. WIth this setup I would 
 be in the middle ring most of the time.  

 On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:43:26 PM UTC+3, Ginz wrote:


 Do folks with the wide/low find that they can hit all nine cogs while 
 in either chainring?  Does moving the crank's chainline outboard a 
 little 
 bit help in that regard? Or, is that not necessary?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

2013-06-19 Thread Ron Mc

It becomes a fact of their construction - they were never designed to be
clinchers. They hand-built tubular tires, then cut the casing open and
added beads. While I don't think Durant makes an open tubular, Challenge
and Vittoria are both doing this with their top-line tires. How many other
tires are offered with 300 tpi casings?

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 6:52:06 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

Interesting... maybe an upgrade in the future. Although it wasn't the
butyl tubes that were keeping the tires from going on well, just the design
of their open tubular tires.

Cheers,
David

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com
javascript:wrote:

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:24:36 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

The epic continues: I put in skinny 18-23mm tubes and was able to seat
the beads on the tires. Inflated to 120psi and eft town for three days!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/**cyclotourist/9083953575/http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/9083953575/

Cheers,
David

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:07 PM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.comwrote:

Steve, that's the way I change all my tubes, so will stay with that
technique! After three days sitting on the rim uninflated, it was *almost
*hand-mountable. Not quite but close. I'm hoping that inflated for a
few days it'll be fine to install with minimal effort. These sure have a
specific installation procedure, that's for sure! They better make me a
lot
faster :-) I'm sure I'll like them, but a bit wary still re. punctures.
The
internets are split 50/50 whether they are more or the same resistant as
other high performance tires. Will report back on that!

Don, I have Velocity A23 rims. They're a full 23mm wide (Coincidence? I
think not!).

Joe, I had one of those at one time, bought from Rivendell circa 1995
or so. Didn't like it, in fact it bent on me and was almost unusable.
Operator error I presume. As for current installation, my thumbs were
plenty sore for a day, but no blood lost!

Cheers,
David

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - Nitto Lugged Seatpost

2013-06-19 Thread Shaun Meehan

RBW sells them for $204 so the one on eBay still seems pretty reasonable.
I've got one that I used to have on my Atlantis that's now out-of-place on
my Long Haul Trucker. I haven't pulled it out but I think it's in excellent
condition. I wasn't really planning on selling it but I'd be willing to if
you'd like to make an offer, Aaron. If you've got good-quality 27.2 post
you could offer as partial payment, I'd be open to that too.

Shaun


On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 There's one on Ebay right now, but it's on the way to being bid into the
 stratosphere. Good Luck.

 On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 2:14:19 PM UTC-7, Aaron Schmidt wrote:

 I need more setback on my Sam! I keep thinking that I'll swap out my
 Albas for drops to see if that solves my setback problem, but I like riding
 with the Albas too much to monkey around.

 Perhaps you bought the fanciest of seatposts thinking you needed a lot of
 setback and it turned out you didn't. Or maybe you bought it because it is
 pretty and for some reason aren't using it. Either way, please let me know
 if you're looking to unload it.

 (I'm currently running a good condition S83 that I'll no longer need if
 you're into doing a partial trade).

 Thanks!

 Aaron




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Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-19 Thread bobish

I like where this thread is headed...

I've been doing something similar on all my bikes. Basically, any bike that 
already came with a triple, I ride the middle ring 90% of the time and use the 
small ring for steep hills. The large could be exchanged for a bash guard but I 
don't bother. So 38/24, 45/28, whatever is on there for middle and small rings, 
that's my double. I built up a mixte for my wife and for that, I selected the 
VO Polyvalent Crankset which IIRC is 46/30. For the freewheel or cassette, the 
wider the range the better I like it (11-32 or 11-34 is nice, but I have the 
original 14-28 freewheel on an old trek). So what? You shift, you pedal, you 
ride. It's all good. Nothing really complicated going on and I never understood 
why people need to over-complicate it. Taping gear ratios to handlebars? Been 
there, done that, have the t-shirt.

Keep it simple.
Perry

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[RBW] Re: Saluki love tires

2013-06-19 Thread jeffrey kane

Hetres will fit your Saluki front + back just fine. Fenders, on the other 
hand, can be an issue. VO makes a few sizes ... you'll want to measure 
yours first to be sure ... look for at last 52mm inside across the span. I 
use 50mm SS Berthoud's (via Mike Kone's online store) on both a Saluki and 
a Bleriot. There's some trade off in coverage but no problems with fit 
anywhere.

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 6:33:23 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 I am loving my new Saluki with Pari- Moto tires.  What a blend of comfort 
  performance!  But I am also looking ahead and wondering if the Heters 
 will fit under the VO Al fenders.  It looks like a kinda tight fit.  Any 
 experience?

 Michael†


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Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

Perry, 

You must be a lot stronger than I am. I did most of the Green Mtn. Loop a 
couple years ago when I 1st got the Sam. 4-5 days and packing gear for 
summer camping. Great experience but I was sure glad I had those low gears. 
Not too much use for the middle ring on that trip - it was a lot of back 
and forth between screaming downhills and long 4 mph climbs. Beautiful part 
of the world but a lot slower going than I expected. Humbling.

Jay

On Thursday, June 20, 2013 6:09:35 AM UTC+3, bobish wrote:

 I like where this thread is headed...

 I've been doing something similar on all my bikes. Basically, any bike 
 that already came with a triple, I ride the middle ring 90% of the time and 
 use the small ring for steep hills. The large could be exchanged for a bash 
 guard but I don't bother. So 38/24, 45/28, whatever is on there for middle 
 and small rings, that's my double. I built up a mixte for my wife and for 
 that, I selected the VO Polyvalent Crankset which IIRC is 46/30. For the 
 freewheel or cassette, the wider the range the better I like it (11-32 or 
 11-34 is nice, but I have the original 14-28 freewheel on an old trek). So 
 what? You shift, you pedal, you ride. It's all good. Nothing really 
 complicated going on and I never understood why people need to 
 over-complicate it. Taping gear ratios to handlebars? Been there, done 
 that, have the t-shirt.

 Keep it simple.
 Perry



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[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

Is it possible to just leave the outer ring off altogether? Maybe using 
spacers of some kind? 

On Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:38:40 AM UTC+3, reynoldslugs wrote:

 The set up works fine.  Here are pictures of a Gunnar CX/commuter with 
 40-26:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157628055130729/

 Cassette is 9-speed 11-36.  It works fine.  I use only the upper or lower 
 7 cogs, depending on which chainring I'm in. 

 Max




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