[RBW] Re: Well, Damn
Oh, geez. Glad you're mostly intact, so sorry for your bike! What others have said. Photograph *everything.* If you have bruises that emerge over time, take photos every day to show the progress. And be very careful, injuries can appear after a while, so go slow, but check everything out. Photograph everything you were carrying, wearing, riding, etc. By all means, contact the perp's insurance company (you'd be amazed how many people try to sneak by) as well as your own (when I got hit, the perp was uninsured. My auto insurance, UI coverage, paid $50,000 of my medical bills and then another $50,000 pain and suffering award). I assume you were checked for a concussion, but if not...get checked. You may want an attorney, or at least a consulation with one--particularly if you the perp's insurance company comes to with what sounds like an attractive offer you can have right away if you'll just sign a release. Sign no release of claims whatsoever for at least six months, even if you feel OK. Things sometimes don't show up for quite a while. Again, glad you're in one piece. On Sunday, September 7, 2014 1:03:39 AM UTC-4, Dennis Hogan wrote: Dude - that is practically right out of your home. Good thing it wasn't the Chicken. You would probably be the one doing the damageLOL. Really, glad it wasn't any worse. Hope you recover quickly Dennis in PDX On Saturday, September 6, 2014 8:01:26 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote: My Hilsen is out of commission for a little while. Heading on NW Broadway towards the bridge, at Flanders, when a silver VW Golf making a left turn hits me. I go up and over and make a nice dent on the windshield. Roll back down when the car stops and land on my feet (like a cat!) and walk away, a bit dazed. Cops show up, we have a party with the firefighters, ambulance comes and leaves. Witness gives his story, all the data gets swapped. Front rack is bent, front fork is askew, wheel is tacoed, but everything is fixable. Police officer gives me a ride back to my apartment (hey it turns out cops carry bikes on their cars all the time, by fitting the wheels between the grill and the big external bumper on the front). X-rays turn out okay, no fractures. Everyone at the hospital was great. It was about 8 hours ago and I'm just coming down from the endorphins. I got a malt milkshake (horchata cookie!) to celebrate. Oh yeah, and my helmet is all cracked up. I'll be fine though. Anyway, keep an eye out there... Cheers cc still picking pieces of windshield glass out of his hair -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More details about the medium Sackville saddle bag
The large and medium Sackville in my household both attach in the same way (to saddle and rear rack). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Well, Damn
Glad you're OK and in good wit about the crash. 2° what Patrick said, they take the rates to cover losses. Each time I've been hit, the driver seemed more deeply impacted than me when all was said and done (by sheer grace, and deeper into a line of credit with Karma). Sort of my own program of building awareness of the deadly force of physics those drivers are responsible for while operating their vehicles, one by one. Hope you don't get stiff and achy after the endorphins go, and that your bike gets justly straightened out quickly as well. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Saturday, September 6, 2014 11:01:26 PM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote: My Hilsen is out of commission for a little while. Heading on NW Broadway towards the bridge, at Flanders, when a silver VW Golf making a left turn hits me. I go up and over and make a nice dent on the windshield. Roll back down when the car stops and land on my feet (like a cat!) and walk away, a bit dazed. Cops show up, we have a party with the firefighters, ambulance comes and leaves. Witness gives his story, all the data gets swapped. Front rack is bent, front fork is askew, wheel is tacoed, but everything is fixable. Police officer gives me a ride back to my apartment (hey it turns out cops carry bikes on their cars all the time, by fitting the wheels between the grill and the big external bumper on the front). X-rays turn out okay, no fractures. Everyone at the hospital was great. It was about 8 hours ago and I'm just coming down from the endorphins. I got a malt milkshake (horchata cookie!) to celebrate. Oh yeah, and my helmet is all cracked up. I'll be fine though. Anyway, keep an eye out there... Cheers cc still picking pieces of windshield glass out of his hair -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Well, Damn
Christopher, glad you are feeling OK, due be cautious about your recovery. This all reminds me why I wear a helmet. The one kind of fall they are most helpful in is a collision. You may get a concussion but chance of a skull fracture go way down. I hope neither the driver nor insurance company gives you a hard time. As my saintly mother used to say, Trust everyone, but cut the cards. Michael On Saturday, September 6, 2014 11:01:26 PM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote: My Hilsen is out of commission for a little while. Heading on NW Broadway towards the bridge, at Flanders, when a silver VW Golf making a left turn hits me. I go up and over and make a nice dent on the windshield. Roll back down when the car stops and land on my feet (like a cat!) and walk away, a bit dazed. Cops show up, we have a party with the firefighters, ambulance comes and leaves. Witness gives his story, all the data gets swapped. Front rack is bent, front fork is askew, wheel is tacoed, but everything is fixable. Police officer gives me a ride back to my apartment (hey it turns out cops carry bikes on their cars all the time, by fitting the wheels between the grill and the big external bumper on the front). X-rays turn out okay, no fractures. Everyone at the hospital was great. It was about 8 hours ago and I'm just coming down from the endorphins. I got a malt milkshake (horchata cookie!) to celebrate. Oh yeah, and my helmet is all cracked up. I'll be fine though. Anyway, keep an eye out there... Cheers cc still picking pieces of windshield glass out of his hair -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Well, Damn
there's no milk in horchata - at least there's not supposed to be http://noshon.it/blog/2013/07/how-to-make-authentic-mexican-horchata/ Christopher, wishing you healing and safety. Same for your bike... On Saturday, September 6, 2014 11:04:51 PM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote: Bah. On the plus side horchata milkshakes do have special healing properties. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?
I've seen you post on this subject before. Are you saying you've gone three days without eating anything, while being physically active? Somehow that does not seem healthy to me. Surely there are some downsides to such behavior? Eric Peterson On Friday, September 5, 2014 5:05:44 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: True, Garth, as far as it goes. But there is a clear choice: Burn primarily carbs, or burn primarily fat. The body has enough carbs in system for 1-2 hours before crashing, enough fat for days (I've done three days) before crashing (though after a day the intensity drops as the body has to replenish carbs via the liver). A lot of people don't realize they don't have to eat constantly while physically active, while still being able to perform equally well if not better. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Well, Damn
Och! Chris! Prayers for a rapid and full recovery. Since it is my unwitting area of expertise, here is the brain injury stuff that hopefully will not apply, but likely does to some extend due to the rapid deceleration you, and the brain in your skull, experienced. Any idea how fast the car was moving? Brain issues (no direct impact required for coup countrecoup where the brain bounces around like mellow in a bowl dropped in the floor) can happen in the type of accident your just had (I had one dearly identical as one of my 8 concussions at 25 + 5 mph followed two weeks later by blacking out randomly for 3 months) and may well NOT show up for days, weeks, or even months (depending on lots of factors, including how soon you return to your normal routine and discover the world just seems harder without any obvious explanation. After my last concussion it took 6 weeks for full symptoms to happen. Presume you have at least a mild concussion and treat yourself accordingly. Rest as much as your body wants to. Eat lots of the darkest chocolate you can find, along with taking calcium/magnesium supplements, arnica, and chamomile, Vitamin B-12 Methylcobalamin sublingual (10,000 mcg/day), and eating ceylon cinnamon sticks a wee bite at a time, up to a stick or two a day. All this helps flush out the various chemical cascade that helps in the instant of the crash but causes problems over time. Also, remember there is a snowball effect to concussions. Once you've had one, you're more likely to have two, more likely to have a third, etc... And later, lighter concussions can seem to cause more damage due to previously caused cracks in the neural infrastructure. Give yourself time before getting back to doing anything more physical so your body awareness and motion and coordination returns to normal. I pray you need none of this and the initial diagnosis that you are fine is true. However, ER's are notorious for ignoring the realities of head injuries and not preparing folks to watch for signs of a brain injury occurring in the days, weeks, and months ahead. Frankly I'm stunned if the ER did not mention that possibility to you and give you things to watch for (which ought to be malpractice now, but isn't). Dude! Your helmet is a goner, which inherently means your brain went for a tumble in your skull. The simplest thing to watch for is noticing the the world just seems harder in ways you can't understand, doing things you used to do all the time with ease, or far more slowly that others now seem to do them. Feel free to write me here or off group if you have any questions. Rest and heal well! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?
Yes, Eric. 5-8 hours of bike riding on mountain trails each of the three days, without food (I had it with me, just was never hungry). Usually, I eat once a day. Once you understand that our body has enough fat to power us easily for a long time (even if you're down to 5% body fat), and once you have your body trained to function and excel in fat burning mode (vs fat storing mode, which is triggered by eating carbs), then going for three days is not a big deal, though I've only done it a couple times as I'm usually perfectly happy to eat my meal a day when I'm out there (I eat two a day at home). So a 8-10 hour ride without is really no big deal. Seriously. Google fat burning vs. storing and see what you get. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Well, Damn
Well, damn indeed. I'm glad you're okay, Chris. Based on previous experience, definitely take the insurance route. Riv may be able to give you an estimate for repairs. Wishing you a speedy recovery, -E. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Well, Damn
It was an unpleasant surprise to see you at work yesterday. I'm glad you're well. I meant to pop back in and see you but I was quite busy on the other side of the ER. Hope you heal quickly. Also hope Homer is back on the road soon. You certainly seemed to fair better than my last friend who came through the ER complaining of chest pain and left a few days later with one less testicle and a cancer diagnosis. In Oct I'll start having weekends off again. Perhaps we can arrange for a PDX ramble out to Mason Hill Park. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More details about the medium Sackville saddle bag
From rivbike.com, on the Medium Saddlesack info page: Key thing here, the big difference between this and the SaddleSack-Large: THIS ONE IS DESIGNED TO ATTACH TO THE SEAT POST, LIKE MOST SADDLEBAGS. WITHOUT A RACK SUPPORT. So if you absolutely don't ride with a rack and you want a biggish-ol' saddlebag, this is the SaddleSack for you. If you ride with a rack and the size fits your needs, even better. On Sunday, September 7, 2014 1:52:03 AM UTC-7, Tom Harrop wrote: The large and medium Sackville in my household both attach in the same way (to saddle and rear rack). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Well, Damn
Yikes! Glad to hear that you escaped relatively intact. Patrick M. gives great, salient advice. You will probably discover more aches and pains (document!) as your body relaxes over the next few days. Definitely get ahold of your auto insurance co if you have any. One of the reasons I'll probably stick with mine is all the phenomenal work they did to settle my bike/door interaction a few years back. Replacement Value is an important concept to get across to the other insurance co (as well as your own, but that is typically not as much of an issue. The current price to replace the damaged items. Clothing, helmet, gloves, packs, etc. And of course the bike. They should cover all ER/doc stuff. (I was ambulance transported for mine, which isn't cheap). If your insurance co is doing their job, they'll pay all that stuff and get reimbursed from the other driver's co. Any financial settlement (real costs plus loss of work, pain/suffering, etc.) is probably negotiated by the other co with you. They are probably hoping you say yes to the first offer, generally speaking, which means they will typically come in low. Once you sign off, it's done. hope that helps. May the road to recovery be smooth! all the best, - Jim / cyclofiend.com On Saturday, September 6, 2014 8:01:26 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote: My Hilsen is out of commission for a little while. Heading on NW Broadway towards the bridge, at Flanders, when a silver VW Golf making a left turn hits me. I go up and over and make a nice dent on the windshield. Roll back down when the car stops and land on my feet (like a cat!) and walk away, a bit dazed. Cops show up, we have a party with the firefighters, ambulance comes and leaves. Witness gives his story, all the data gets swapped. Front rack is bent, front fork is askew, wheel is tacoed, but everything is fixable. Police officer gives me a ride back to my apartment (hey it turns out cops carry bikes on their cars all the time, by fitting the wheels between the grill and the big external bumper on the front). X-rays turn out okay, no fractures. Everyone at the hospital was great. It was about 8 hours ago and I'm just coming down from the endorphins. I got a malt milkshake (horchata cookie!) to celebrate. Oh yeah, and my helmet is all cracked up. I'll be fine though. Anyway, keep an eye out there... Cheers cc still picking pieces of windshield glass out of his hair -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Possibly for Sale: Probing interest 54 cm Rambouillet Complete Bike $1500
$1500 including professional packing and shipping to anywhere in the lower 48 states 54 CM Rivendell Rambouillet (Orange and Cream)-complete bike Silver Shifters Deore rear derailer Ultegra rear hub 8 speed Sram Cassette (11 x 28) Sram 8 speed chain Bontrager 28 mm hardcase tires (all weather on the rear, racelite on the front) Schmidt Dynohub Supernova E3 headlight Velo-Orange Raid Rims (32 front, 36 spoke count rear) Praxis works Chain rings (50 x 34) with TA Specialities Vega Cranks Bertold 40 mm fenders Brooks B-17 saddle Uno Kalloy Seatpost Marks mini-rack on rear Silver Wide Mouth brakes Velo-Orange Porteur Bars Velo-Orange Guidonnet Brake Levers Grip King Pedals Everything works fine. Just thinning the herd to make room for new Rivendell. Frame has beusage... each chip covered with orange or black nail polish. Pictures available for interested parties. Jay LePree Demarest, NJ Inquires offline at jaymlepree at gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Marks Rack and Platrack
Sold, thanks everyone! On Thursday, September 4, 2014 5:12:43 PM UTC-7, Michael Ullmer wrote: FS: Nitto Marks Rack and Platrack - $165 shipped CONUS This has been sitting in my parts bin for a while now, it needs to get some use. Included is a Nitto Mark’s Rack, Platrack, 4 Nitto Rack Bolts, 2 short rods, 2 medium rods, 2 new long rods, front and rear diving board plates and 1 homemade diving board plate made by a fellow lister. You’ll need to provide the 5m bolts to attach the platrack and the diving board plate to the rack. The 4 Nitto Rack Bolts are all you’ll need for whatever set-up you choose. The front original diving board plate may need some adjusting to make it perfectly straight, but you can do that with a pliers. There are a few places with spot rust, but most has been buffed out with Simi-chrome. If you have any questions about it send them along. https://www.flickr.com/photos/120703118@N08/sets/72157646828933470/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Well, Damn
After my left hook in Jan 2013 (on NW Evergreen just after it splits off from NW Cornell, by the Verizon store), I also got left-hooked by his insurance. Fortunately *I* have good insurance. After going into work and getting yelled at by everyone, I spent the day in the ER. The first doctor didn't like my EKG, and worried about heart damage. (I emailed a pic of it to my brother the anesthesiologist. He thought it was a very fine EKG :-) ) Anyway, nothing broken, but I hurt like heck for a few days. Didn't seem to do any brain damage, but my left side, knee mostly, was unhappy for a few months afterward. Oh, yeah, the bike (Rivendell Bleriot) - front wheel was bent, fork was mangled, top tube and down tube were slightly bent - I could tell because the paint was crinkled and flaking. After a framebuilder friend told me it was fixable, but he couldn't get to it anytime soon, I called Rivendell and had a wonderful chat with Keven. We talked about the framebuilders they recommend for this, the Bleriot frame was shipped off, and eventually returned with a shiny new fork (upgrade; Bleriot forks aren't around these days), all new tubes from the SS couplers forward, and a spiffy new paint job. My LBS rebuilt my front wheel with a new rim and spokes. The SON28 hub was fine. So, yes, do talk with Riv about repairs. They will do right by you. I was really pleased with the whole process. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Ride/Trip Report: Labor Day weekend at Cape Lookout (Oregon)
Hello folks- Like Chris Chen and Andy Schmidt, I rode out to Cape Lookout on the Oregon Coast and camped with the dozens of cyclotourists there. And I finally got around to writing up the trip report! You can find it here: http://urbanadventureleague.wordpress.com/2014/09/07/trip-report-cape-lookout-labor-day-mini-tour/ And a full set of photos here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/sets/72157647017962075/ Enjoy! -Shawn - http://urbanadventureleague.wordpress.com/ http://societyofthreespeeds.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/ http://bikesspottedpdx.tumblr.com/ Un-electronic mail goes here: P O Box 14185, Portland OR 97293-0185 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: More details about the medium Sackville saddle bag
CT Cyclist, I don't own one, but I say you should get it! Not just for the reason that it's good (as proved by other testimonials), but because of the certain irony of getting a product made in your state (assuming that you are indeed from Connecticut), which gets shipped to Riv in California, then shipped back to you in Connecticut. The bag has already done two cross country tours by the time you get it! It's sort of like the Keens I bought once from a mail order catalog that came from halfway cross the continent, despite them being assembled about 4 miles from my house. an ex CT cyclist, Shawn - http://urbanadventureleague.wordpress.com/ http://societyofthreespeeds.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/ http://bikesspottedpdx.tumblr.com/ Un-electronic mail goes here: P O Box 14185, Portland OR 97293-0185 On Saturday, September 6, 2014 1:46:52 PM UTC-7, A CT Cyclist wrote: Hi, I'm getting ready to purchase a largish saddle bag and I have a few questions about the Med. Sackville Saddle Bag. Is it a heavy bag when it is empty, 1,2 or more lbs ? Second of all is the bag really waterproof? And finally is it one of the best saddle bags you have ever used? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?
This reminds me of my teenage days when I would go out for 4 hour Sunday afternoon rides, pushing the pace from the driveway, in hilly terrain at 5 to 7K feet under the equatorial African sun - 90 miles south of the equator. Heavy bikes with limited gearing, too, and concrete tires. It never occurred to me to take food, or water for that matter. On the return, I'd see white spots on the road and have to bail to foot at every little incline. Young, stupid, and healthy, I guess. On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Eric Peterson peterson.er...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen you post on this subject before. Are you saying you've gone three days without eating anything, while being physically active? Somehow that does not seem healthy to me. Surely there are some downsides to such behavior? Eric Peterson On Friday, September 5, 2014 5:05:44 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: True, Garth, as far as it goes. But there is a clear choice: Burn primarily carbs, or burn primarily fat. The body has enough carbs in system for 1-2 hours before crashing, enough fat for days (I've done three days) before crashing (though after a day the intensity drops as the body has to replenish carbs via the liver). A lot of people don't realize they don't have to eat constantly while physically active, while still being able to perform equally well if not better. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- *Flannery O'Connor,* Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?
Actually -- no food, water, or forethought -- this was my version of just ride! On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: This reminds me of my teenage days when I would go out for 4 hour Sunday afternoon rides, pushing the pace from the driveway, in hilly terrain at 5 to 7K feet under the equatorial African sun - 90 miles south of the equator. Heavy bikes with limited gearing, too, and concrete tires. It never occurred to me to take food, or water for that matter. On the return, I'd see white spots on the road and have to bail to foot at every little incline. Young, stupid, and healthy, I guess. On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Eric Peterson peterson.er...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen you post on this subject before. Are you saying you've gone three days without eating anything, while being physically active? Somehow that does not seem healthy to me. Surely there are some downsides to such behavior? Eric Peterson On Friday, September 5, 2014 5:05:44 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: True, Garth, as far as it goes. But there is a clear choice: Burn primarily carbs, or burn primarily fat. The body has enough carbs in system for 1-2 hours before crashing, enough fat for days (I've done three days) before crashing (though after a day the intensity drops as the body has to replenish carbs via the liver). A lot of people don't realize they don't have to eat constantly while physically active, while still being able to perform equally well if not better. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- *Flannery O'Connor,* Wise Blood * -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- *Flannery O'Connor,* Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
[RBW] Ride/Trip Report: Labor Day weekend at Cape Lookout (Oregon)
Thanks, Shawn, it was a great and well illustrated report. It made for delightful Sunday afternoon amusement. Chris Sanger, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Well, Damn
We'll miss seeing photos of the Hilsen for awhile, but more importantly, we are hoping to see you completely recovered before the bike. Chris Johnson Sanger, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: Acorn bags, Nitto Mod174 bar, Bunyan Velo cap
bars are sold too. ~mike On Saturday, September 6, 2014 11:20:12 AM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote: Got a few things to clear out. 1. Nitto Mod 174 handlebars. Compact version of Noodle with shorter reach/drop 46cm wide. see http://store.fairweather.cc/store/p26/MOD174_ALL_ROAD_BAR_by_NITTO.html Brand new. Cost was $90 including shipping from Japan. $65 shipped 2, Acorn black Medium saddle bag, used on two overnights, near new condition. $70 shipped 3, Acorn black Roll bag. used for a few months, very clean. $45 shipped 4. Bunyan Velo wool cycling cap made by Randi Jo. dark charcoal, brand new. $26 shipped pic here https://www.flickr.com/photos/37347002@N05/sets/72157647286621921 contact me off list if interested. shipping in CONUS. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Well, Damn
Glad you are OK...but take care of yourself as Patrick Moore advises, (and I suspect he well knows what he's talking about!) and make sure you file a claim for whatever you're legally entitled to. I wish you a speedy recovery...evidently you still have your sense of humour which is a good thing. Be wellRyan in Winnipeg On Saturday, September 6, 2014 10:01:26 PM UTC-5, Christopher Chen wrote: My Hilsen is out of commission for a little while. Heading on NW Broadway towards the bridge, at Flanders, when a silver VW Golf making a left turn hits me. I go up and over and make a nice dent on the windshield. Roll back down when the car stops and land on my feet (like a cat!) and walk away, a bit dazed. Cops show up, we have a party with the firefighters, ambulance comes and leaves. Witness gives his story, all the data gets swapped. Front rack is bent, front fork is askew, wheel is tacoed, but everything is fixable. Police officer gives me a ride back to my apartment (hey it turns out cops carry bikes on their cars all the time, by fitting the wheels between the grill and the big external bumper on the front). X-rays turn out okay, no fractures. Everyone at the hospital was great. It was about 8 hours ago and I'm just coming down from the endorphins. I got a malt milkshake (horchata cookie!) to celebrate. Oh yeah, and my helmet is all cracked up. I'll be fine though. Anyway, keep an eye out there... Cheers cc still picking pieces of windshield glass out of his hair -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Well, Damn
People just can't wait 3 seconds for a bike to get through an intersection.I hope you recover quickly. Inspect your bike for hidden damage: Feel under the down tube and top tube just behind the head tube for any bulges that may have ben caused by the impact. Have the bike shop remove the fork and inspect the fork crown and steerer tube for bends and cracks.Have them put the fork in a fork jig to check the alignment .Have them service the headset while the fork is out. Have them give the bike a total inspection *The V-DUB guy will pay for it.. You don't want something to happen later down the road that was caused by the accident.* Hope you are feeling better and back out on the road soon. Jon On Saturday, September 6, 2014 9:01:26 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote: My Hilsen is out of commission for a little while. Heading on NW Broadway towards the bridge, at Flanders, when a silver VW Golf making a left turn hits me. I go up and over and make a nice dent on the windshield. Roll back down when the car stops and land on my feet (like a cat!) and walk away, a bit dazed. Cops show up, we have a party with the firefighters, ambulance comes and leaves. Witness gives his story, all the data gets swapped. Front rack is bent, front fork is askew, wheel is tacoed, but everything is fixable. Police officer gives me a ride back to my apartment (hey it turns out cops carry bikes on their cars all the time, by fitting the wheels between the grill and the big external bumper on the front). X-rays turn out okay, no fractures. Everyone at the hospital was great. It was about 8 hours ago and I'm just coming down from the endorphins. I got a malt milkshake (horchata cookie!) to celebrate. Oh yeah, and my helmet is all cracked up. I'll be fine though. Anyway, keep an eye out there... Cheers cc still picking pieces of windshield glass out of his hair -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Ride/Trip Report: Labor Day weekend at Cape Lookout (Oregon)
Thanks Shawn for sharing your story and pics.Just beautiful! On Sunday, September 7, 2014 11:23:17 AM UTC-6, Shawn Granton wrote: Hello folks- Like Chris Chen and Andy Schmidt, I rode out to Cape Lookout on the Oregon Coast and camped with the dozens of cyclotourists there. And I finally got around to writing up the trip report! You can find it here: http://urbanadventureleague.wordpress.com/2014/09/07/trip-report-cape-lookout-labor-day-mini-tour/ And a full set of photos here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/sets/72157647017962075/ Enjoy! -Shawn - http://urbanadventureleague.wordpress.com/ http://societyofthreespeeds.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/ http://bikesspottedpdx.tumblr.com/ Un-electronic mail goes here: P O Box 14185, Portland OR 97293-0185 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Well, Damn
We are the place for good advice on this sort of thing! I especially agree with the two Patricks. Our legal/medical/insurance system is built on short-term adversarial relationships, but this kind of accident can be long-term life changing, especially if you feel like jumping up after being hit right away! Document, notify, get expert evaluations of body and bike, and make no assumptions of good will from the other party, or make any hasty agreement with them. I agreed to getting a new wheel after discovering the woman who hit me had not notified her insurance and tried to deny she had hit me, but over time, I discovered the frame was no longer true, and the fork eventually cracked, but because it was steel, it didn't fail without warning. My body, well, it was OK after that crash, just a little sore two days later for several weeks... On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Jon in the foothills of Central Colorado row.n.2nowh...@gmail.com wrote: People just can't wait 3 seconds for a bike to get through an intersection.I hope you recover quickly. Inspect your bike for hidden damage: Feel under the down tube and top tube just behind the head tube for any bulges that may have ben caused by the impact. Have the bike shop remove the fork and inspect the fork crown and steerer tube for bends and cracks.Have them put the fork in a fork jig to check the alignment .Have them service the headset while the fork is out. Have them give the bike a total inspection *The V-DUB guy will pay for it.. You don't want something to happen later down the road that was caused by the accident.* Hope you are feeling better and back out on the road soon. Jon On Saturday, September 6, 2014 9:01:26 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote: My Hilsen is out of commission for a little while. Heading on NW Broadway towards the bridge, at Flanders, when a silver VW Golf making a left turn hits me. I go up and over and make a nice dent on the windshield. Roll back down when the car stops and land on my feet (like a cat!) and walk away, a bit dazed. Cops show up, we have a party with the firefighters, ambulance comes and leaves. Witness gives his story, all the data gets swapped. Front rack is bent, front fork is askew, wheel is tacoed, but everything is fixable. Police officer gives me a ride back to my apartment (hey it turns out cops carry bikes on their cars all the time, by fitting the wheels between the grill and the big external bumper on the front). X-rays turn out okay, no fractures. Everyone at the hospital was great. It was about 8 hours ago and I'm just coming down from the endorphins. I got a malt milkshake (horchata cookie!) to celebrate. Oh yeah, and my helmet is all cracked up. I'll be fine though. Anyway, keep an eye out there... Cheers cc still picking pieces of windshield glass out of his hair -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Well, Damn
Thanks everyone for the kind words. It's a bit sad we live in an adversarial sort of culture, because it's really easy to see this incident from both sides. That said, I *was* going straight and the car entered my space, so... In any event, I'm going to spend a few minutes today to take parts off the bike to get at the frame and I'll have it looked over. Actually I just looked at the downtube and it's fubar. https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/15148900746/in/photostream/ Ibuprofen is one hell of a drug and I'm back on my feet today. I have a new business idea though. The gauze the hospital gave me is white, and it picks up cat hair like a moogerfooger, so I propose a custom gauze service where you send in pictures of your cats and it makes a custom colored gauze that matches your cat/dog's coat. You can specify up to 4 different cats by submitting pictures and hair length + size for each, and it will do a simulation to provide the exact match, like camo. On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Jon in the foothills of Central Colorado row.n.2nowh...@gmail.com wrote: People just can't wait 3 seconds for a bike to get through an intersection.I hope you recover quickly. Inspect your bike for hidden damage: Feel under the down tube and top tube just behind the head tube for any bulges that may have ben caused by the impact. Have the bike shop remove the fork and inspect the fork crown and steerer tube for bends and cracks.Have them put the fork in a fork jig to check the alignment .Have them service the headset while the fork is out. Have them give the bike a total inspection *The V-DUB guy will pay for it.. You don't want something to happen later down the road that was caused by the accident.* Hope you are feeling better and back out on the road soon. Jon On Saturday, September 6, 2014 9:01:26 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote: My Hilsen is out of commission for a little while. Heading on NW Broadway towards the bridge, at Flanders, when a silver VW Golf making a left turn hits me. I go up and over and make a nice dent on the windshield. Roll back down when the car stops and land on my feet (like a cat!) and walk away, a bit dazed. Cops show up, we have a party with the firefighters, ambulance comes and leaves. Witness gives his story, all the data gets swapped. Front rack is bent, front fork is askew, wheel is tacoed, but everything is fixable. Police officer gives me a ride back to my apartment (hey it turns out cops carry bikes on their cars all the time, by fitting the wheels between the grill and the big external bumper on the front). X-rays turn out okay, no fractures. Everyone at the hospital was great. It was about 8 hours ago and I'm just coming down from the endorphins. I got a malt milkshake (horchata cookie!) to celebrate. Oh yeah, and my helmet is all cracked up. I'll be fine though. Anyway, keep an eye out there... Cheers cc still picking pieces of windshield glass out of his hair -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Well, Damn
VERY glad to hear you are doing as well. If you need my 57 Hilsen frame and or fork on free loan till your's is sorted, let me know. I'll could have it in transit tomorrow or tuesday. Keep up the mending. On Sunday, September 7, 2014 3:53:57 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote: Thanks everyone for the kind words. It's a bit sad we live in an adversarial sort of culture, because it's really easy to see this incident from both sides. That said, I *was* going straight and the car entered my space, so... In any event, I'm going to spend a few minutes today to take parts off the bike to get at the frame and I'll have it looked over. Actually I just looked at the downtube and it's fubar. https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/15148900746/in/photostream/ Ibuprofen is one hell of a drug and I'm back on my feet today. I have a new business idea though. The gauze the hospital gave me is white, and it picks up cat hair like a moogerfooger, so I propose a custom gauze service where you send in pictures of your cats and it makes a custom colored gauze that matches your cat/dog's coat. You can specify up to 4 different cats by submitting pictures and hair length + size for each, and it will do a simulation to provide the exact match, like camo. On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Jon in the foothills of Central Colorado row.n.2...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: People just can't wait 3 seconds for a bike to get through an intersection.I hope you recover quickly. Inspect your bike for hidden damage: Feel under the down tube and top tube just behind the head tube for any bulges that may have ben caused by the impact. Have the bike shop remove the fork and inspect the fork crown and steerer tube for bends and cracks.Have them put the fork in a fork jig to check the alignment .Have them service the headset while the fork is out. Have them give the bike a total inspection *The V-DUB guy will pay for it.. You don't want something to happen later down the road that was caused by the accident.* Hope you are feeling better and back out on the road soon. Jon On Saturday, September 6, 2014 9:01:26 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote: My Hilsen is out of commission for a little while. Heading on NW Broadway towards the bridge, at Flanders, when a silver VW Golf making a left turn hits me. I go up and over and make a nice dent on the windshield. Roll back down when the car stops and land on my feet (like a cat!) and walk away, a bit dazed. Cops show up, we have a party with the firefighters, ambulance comes and leaves. Witness gives his story, all the data gets swapped. Front rack is bent, front fork is askew, wheel is tacoed, but everything is fixable. Police officer gives me a ride back to my apartment (hey it turns out cops carry bikes on their cars all the time, by fitting the wheels between the grill and the big external bumper on the front). X-rays turn out okay, no fractures. Everyone at the hospital was great. It was about 8 hours ago and I'm just coming down from the endorphins. I got a malt milkshake (horchata cookie!) to celebrate. Oh yeah, and my helmet is all cracked up. I'll be fine though. Anyway, keep an eye out there... Cheers cc still picking pieces of windshield glass out of his hair -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Well, Damn
Oh my god Jinxed that makes me want to cry. I'll be riding the chicken once my new helmet gets here, so I'm good. But THANK YOU! On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 2:56 PM, 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: VERY glad to hear you are doing as well. If you need my 57 Hilsen frame and or fork on free loan till your's is sorted, let me know. I'll could have it in transit tomorrow or tuesday. Keep up the mending. On Sunday, September 7, 2014 3:53:57 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote: Thanks everyone for the kind words. It's a bit sad we live in an adversarial sort of culture, because it's really easy to see this incident from both sides. That said, I *was* going straight and the car entered my space, so... In any event, I'm going to spend a few minutes today to take parts off the bike to get at the frame and I'll have it looked over. Actually I just looked at the downtube and it's fubar. https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/15148900746/in/photostream/ Ibuprofen is one hell of a drug and I'm back on my feet today. I have a new business idea though. The gauze the hospital gave me is white, and it picks up cat hair like a moogerfooger, so I propose a custom gauze service where you send in pictures of your cats and it makes a custom colored gauze that matches your cat/dog's coat. You can specify up to 4 different cats by submitting pictures and hair length + size for each, and it will do a simulation to provide the exact match, like camo. On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Jon in the foothills of Central Colorado row.n.2...@gmail.com wrote: People just can't wait 3 seconds for a bike to get through an intersection.I hope you recover quickly. Inspect your bike for hidden damage: Feel under the down tube and top tube just behind the head tube for any bulges that may have ben caused by the impact. Have the bike shop remove the fork and inspect the fork crown and steerer tube for bends and cracks.Have them put the fork in a fork jig to check the alignment .Have them service the headset while the fork is out. Have them give the bike a total inspection *The V-DUB guy will pay for it.. You don't want something to happen later down the road that was caused by the accident.* Hope you are feeling better and back out on the road soon. Jon On Saturday, September 6, 2014 9:01:26 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote: My Hilsen is out of commission for a little while. Heading on NW Broadway towards the bridge, at Flanders, when a silver VW Golf making a left turn hits me. I go up and over and make a nice dent on the windshield. Roll back down when the car stops and land on my feet (like a cat!) and walk away, a bit dazed. Cops show up, we have a party with the firefighters, ambulance comes and leaves. Witness gives his story, all the data gets swapped. Front rack is bent, front fork is askew, wheel is tacoed, but everything is fixable. Police officer gives me a ride back to my apartment (hey it turns out cops carry bikes on their cars all the time, by fitting the wheels between the grill and the big external bumper on the front). X-rays turn out okay, no fractures. Everyone at the hospital was great. It was about 8 hours ago and I'm just coming down from the endorphins. I got a malt milkshake (horchata cookie!) to celebrate. Oh yeah, and my helmet is all cracked up. I'll be fine though. Anyway, keep an eye out there... Cheers cc still picking pieces of windshield glass out of his hair -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit
Re: [RBW] Help with my Flyer saddle please. Out of ideas.
I'm not sure what the cause is, but my Flyer experienced a similar change in attitude. It went visibly nose up after a year of riding (~2000 miles). Part of that was how the saddle sagged more in the middle as it wore in, for sure. A couple months ago I carefully punched some holes in the bottom of the skirts, and laced them together (I used a rotary punch http://www.sbearstradingpost.com/3230.JPG, and a shoelace). That reduced sag in the middle, and some of the apparent nose up. But I still had to rotate the saddle a couple bumps forward on the stem. I have no measurements to back it up, but I experienced the same phenomenon. On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 10:32 PM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: I have ridden it in great comfort on it for the last year. Both cycling shorts and regular shorts and pants. Suddenly, I am getting some annoying perennial pressure and I am out of ideas as to what to do about it. More so with cycling shorts, and feels better when just regular pants. It started the day after a 27-mile light rain ride, but the saddle didn't get wet as I had a bag on it. I figured that maybe the wet atmosphere of the long ride made the leather change a little. But the leather looks the same. I have fenders, so there shouldn't have been spray from the tires, either. I tensioned the saddle ever so gently. The saddle has been getting loose feeling anyway over the last few months and readily bows to thumb pressure testing, though it always felt great to ride. But tensioning didn;t make a noticeable diff as far as I can tell. So I checked it out, and the saddle height went down a smidge and the angle changed about .6 degrees, nose up, over the last year from the original set up. I readjusted everything back to where it was. Better, but not perfect like before. I can't think of what else it could be. The bike is all set up the same, as far as I can tell. My only last thought as to what it might be: *Maybe the Flyer springs don't stand as tall after a year of riding and so the saddle need to have the nose lowered more than normal to get the angle right? Do the springs lose a little height after a while that the back end of the saddle wouldn't be as high even though I got the angle back to where it was all along?* Anyone have any ideas or know what causes this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Well, Damn
Given the look of that impact, check the front hub carefully before using it to rebuild a wheel...you may need a new Schmidt. On Sunday, September 7, 2014 6:00:27 PM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote: Oh my god Jinxed that makes me want to cry. I'll be riding the chicken once my new helmet gets here, so I'm good. But THANK YOU! On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 2:56 PM, 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: wrote: VERY glad to hear you are doing as well. If you need my 57 Hilsen frame and or fork on free loan till your's is sorted, let me know. I'll could have it in transit tomorrow or tuesday. Keep up the mending. On Sunday, September 7, 2014 3:53:57 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote: Thanks everyone for the kind words. It's a bit sad we live in an adversarial sort of culture, because it's really easy to see this incident from both sides. That said, I *was* going straight and the car entered my space, so... In any event, I'm going to spend a few minutes today to take parts off the bike to get at the frame and I'll have it looked over. Actually I just looked at the downtube and it's fubar. https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/15148900746/in/photostream/ Ibuprofen is one hell of a drug and I'm back on my feet today. I have a new business idea though. The gauze the hospital gave me is white, and it picks up cat hair like a moogerfooger, so I propose a custom gauze service where you send in pictures of your cats and it makes a custom colored gauze that matches your cat/dog's coat. You can specify up to 4 different cats by submitting pictures and hair length + size for each, and it will do a simulation to provide the exact match, like camo. On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Jon in the foothills of Central Colorado row.n.2...@gmail.com wrote: People just can't wait 3 seconds for a bike to get through an intersection.I hope you recover quickly. Inspect your bike for hidden damage: Feel under the down tube and top tube just behind the head tube for any bulges that may have ben caused by the impact. Have the bike shop remove the fork and inspect the fork crown and steerer tube for bends and cracks.Have them put the fork in a fork jig to check the alignment .Have them service the headset while the fork is out. Have them give the bike a total inspection *The V-DUB guy will pay for it.. You don't want something to happen later down the road that was caused by the accident.* Hope you are feeling better and back out on the road soon. Jon On Saturday, September 6, 2014 9:01:26 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote: My Hilsen is out of commission for a little while. Heading on NW Broadway towards the bridge, at Flanders, when a silver VW Golf making a left turn hits me. I go up and over and make a nice dent on the windshield. Roll back down when the car stops and land on my feet (like a cat!) and walk away, a bit dazed. Cops show up, we have a party with the firefighters, ambulance comes and leaves. Witness gives his story, all the data gets swapped. Front rack is bent, front fork is askew, wheel is tacoed, but everything is fixable. Police officer gives me a ride back to my apartment (hey it turns out cops carry bikes on their cars all the time, by fitting the wheels between the grill and the big external bumper on the front). X-rays turn out okay, no fractures. Everyone at the hospital was great. It was about 8 hours ago and I'm just coming down from the endorphins. I got a malt milkshake (horchata cookie!) to celebrate. Oh yeah, and my helmet is all cracked up. I'll be fine though. Anyway, keep an eye out there... Cheers cc still picking pieces of windshield glass out of his hair -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving
Re: [RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?
But isn't Atkins and protein fat only diets bad for your arteries? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: More details about the medium Sackville saddle bag
I have one, use it often, and recommend it highly with one small reservation, which I'll come to presently. One of the nicest features is that one can remove the bag from one bike and put it on another quickly. I also have Acorn and Carradice Super C saddlebags, both of which are excellent, and both of which require opening the bag and fiddling about under the internal dowel to unbuckle the straps, followed by unthreading the straps from the holes in the bag, etc. etc. Kind of a pain. All of the unbuckling, threading, and unbuckling with the Sackville goes on outside the bag. One can do it with the bag loaded, if necessary. As has been mentioned in other threads, the medium Sackville holds much more than it should. It seems magically larger on the inside than on the outside. The side pockets fit a U-lock and zip closed comfortably. The shape of the main compartment is much easier to work with than, say, a Carradice. I have panniers on one bike for when panniers are needed, but most days the Sackville is all I need. I think it looks fantastic, too. I can't speak to waterproofness under downpour conditions, but I've used it in steady rain and had no leakage. The weave is *really* tight. My only reservation about the bag is this: the straps and buckles are not your friends in very cold weather. If you need to put things into the bag and take them out in weather below freezing, and you can buy only one bag, look elsewhere. I tried my Sackville on my Pugsley for a while, but was tired of taking my mittens off in sub-zero temperatures to remove items from the bag. The big plastic clips on my Carradice Super C work much better in those conditions. Note the warning on the RBW site about needing around 11 inches between the bag loops on your saddle and the top of your rear tire. Even with 11 inches, the loaded bag can still rub a little on the tire. I have use the bag on rendered bikes, though, so I haven't had a problem. I strongly suggest the Nitto Wire Guard along with the bag (https://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r12.htm). Seems a ridiculous expense, I know, but I have found it necessary on both my AHH and my single-speed for preventing not just wear on the bag but unhelpful pressure on brake cables. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 3:43 PM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: But isn't Atkins and protein fat only diets bad for your arteries? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: More details about the medium Sackville saddle bag
Do you cats get a lot of tail wagging with those Sackvilles saddle bags? They stick out so far to the rear. The Carradices tend to sit with the load closer to seatpost. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?
The Hummingbird and the Polar Bear each travel great distance . . . . yet each get to their destination :) In the Spirit of this Forum . . . . . Love what you be without any reason . .. . and all the eating and riding and life stuff works itself out Guaranteed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Cambium S H-Cut
Hey folks- I was wondering if anyone here has ridden a Cambium S with the cutout? I think I need to look into one for my Saluki as I'll be riding it into some wet weather this year. I'm wondering how the S feels as I think my...undercarriage would prefer a shorter saddle than my b17. Thanks! -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Well, Damn
Thanks everyone for the kind words. It's a bit sad we live in an adversarial sort of culture, because it's really easy to see this incident from both sides. That said, *was* going straight and the car entered my space, so... Don't even let yourself feel even a bit at fault. Left turning autos failing to yield the right of way to pedestrians and cyclists is often at the top of annual car/pedestrian/cyclists injury and fatality statistics. Law enforcement needs to get much more aggressive enforcing infractions. Federal and local government really ought to produce driver education video and on-line pieces about proper left turn maneuvers at the same level they do encouraging seat belts and not driving under the influence. I'm glad you appear to be doing relatively well. So sad about your wonderful Hilsen pictures of which you've shared here with us in the past. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Well, Damn
Dang, that mighty Homer is used up. R.I.P. Homer. Bummer. :-( I'd rather see a hundred crumpled Homers than a single broken bone on you, CC. I'm super grateful for that. There's a sign on the display Hunqapillar at Bike Book and Hatchet that reads. This is a Bicycle. Bicycles have no soul or something to that effect. We get attached and sentimental, and even feel loss, but it is just a bike. An excellent bike, but it's replaceable. On Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:53:57 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote: Thanks everyone for the kind words. It's a bit sad we live in an adversarial sort of culture, because it's really easy to see this incident from both sides. That said, I *was* going straight and the car entered my space, so... In any event, I'm going to spend a few minutes today to take parts off the bike to get at the frame and I'll have it looked over. Actually I just looked at the downtube and it's fubar. https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/15148900746/in/photostream/ Ibuprofen is one hell of a drug and I'm back on my feet today. I have a new business idea though. The gauze the hospital gave me is white, and it picks up cat hair like a moogerfooger, so I propose a custom gauze service where you send in pictures of your cats and it makes a custom colored gauze that matches your cat/dog's coat. You can specify up to 4 different cats by submitting pictures and hair length + size for each, and it will do a simulation to provide the exact match, like camo. On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Jon in the foothills of Central Colorado row.n.2...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: People just can't wait 3 seconds for a bike to get through an intersection.I hope you recover quickly. Inspect your bike for hidden damage: Feel under the down tube and top tube just behind the head tube for any bulges that may have ben caused by the impact. Have the bike shop remove the fork and inspect the fork crown and steerer tube for bends and cracks.Have them put the fork in a fork jig to check the alignment .Have them service the headset while the fork is out. Have them give the bike a total inspection *The V-DUB guy will pay for it.. You don't want something to happen later down the road that was caused by the accident.* Hope you are feeling better and back out on the road soon. Jon On Saturday, September 6, 2014 9:01:26 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote: My Hilsen is out of commission for a little while. Heading on NW Broadway towards the bridge, at Flanders, when a silver VW Golf making a left turn hits me. I go up and over and make a nice dent on the windshield. Roll back down when the car stops and land on my feet (like a cat!) and walk away, a bit dazed. Cops show up, we have a party with the firefighters, ambulance comes and leaves. Witness gives his story, all the data gets swapped. Front rack is bent, front fork is askew, wheel is tacoed, but everything is fixable. Police officer gives me a ride back to my apartment (hey it turns out cops carry bikes on their cars all the time, by fitting the wheels between the grill and the big external bumper on the front). X-rays turn out okay, no fractures. Everyone at the hospital was great. It was about 8 hours ago and I'm just coming down from the endorphins. I got a malt milkshake (horchata cookie!) to celebrate. Oh yeah, and my helmet is all cracked up. I'll be fine though. Anyway, keep an eye out there... Cheers cc still picking pieces of windshield glass out of his hair -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More details about the medium Sackville saddle bag
I don't notice it with my medium Sackville. However, I do use a small leather strap to secure it lightly to the rear rack. Just so it won't shift as much. Will also agree that the straps are less than perfect in colder weather. But as my other bags all have leather straps and buckles, the Sackville might be the the easiest to load and unload. Regular Carradice leather straps and buckles are seriously sub-optimal in cold weather (i.e. below +20F). Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 5:51 PM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Do you cats get a lot of tail wagging with those Sackvilles saddle bags? They stick out so far to the rear. The Carradices tend to sit with the load closer to seatpost. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?
Only if you think cholesterol is bad for you. I recommend reading Grain Brain. Cholesterol is required for brain health and is NOT a marker for heart health or the clogging of arteries. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, September 7, 2014 4:43:34 PM UTC-6, lungimsam wrote: But isn't Atkins and protein fat only diets bad for your arteries? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Any reason not to lace a 32 spoke SON hub 2x?
Howdy folks. I just read that PJW recommends 3x for this hub with this spoke count, but I can't think of any reason why 2x wouldn't be fine. The wheel is not for loaded touring or anything and the huge hub diameter makes the opposing spoke closer to tangent than they would be with any normal hub. For any regular use, a 32 spoke 2x front wheel is plenty sturdy, is it not? Thanks, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Any reason not to lace a 32 spoke SON hub 2x?
Sure, it's fine. You won't gain much (something like 10g weight savings when you remove 9mm off of 32 spokes), but you won't lose much either, since it's a front wheel. If 2x is good enough for the left-side rear, it's good enough for the front. On Sunday, September 7, 2014 6:04:40 PM UTC-7, Doug Van Cleve wrote: Howdy folks. I just read that PJW recommends 3x for this hub with this spoke count, but I can't think of any reason why 2x wouldn't be fine. The wheel is not for loaded touring or anything and the huge hub diameter makes the opposing spoke closer to tangent than they would be with any normal hub. For any regular use, a 32 spoke 2x front wheel is plenty sturdy, is it not? Thanks, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: More details about the medium Sackville saddle bag
I've never used my Sackville backs in sub-freezing, so I can't dispute you if you say it's hard to manage, but to get inside the bag you just need to unsnap a snap, right? Two, actually. Does the strap slip out of your grip when you try to grab it to unsnap it? if so, there are solutions to that. I can see that it might be hard to deal with the belt buckle things, but you don't need to deal with those to get into the bag. Those are for setup adjustment. On Sunday, September 7, 2014 3:49:09 PM UTC-7, Bob Cook wrote: I have one, use it often, and recommend it highly with one small reservation, which I'll come to presently. One of the nicest features is that one can remove the bag from one bike and put it on another quickly. I also have Acorn and Carradice Super C saddlebags, both of which are excellent, and both of which require opening the bag and fiddling about under the internal dowel to unbuckle the straps, followed by unthreading the straps from the holes in the bag, etc. etc. Kind of a pain. All of the unbuckling, threading, and unbuckling with the Sackville goes on outside the bag. One can do it with the bag loaded, if necessary. As has been mentioned in other threads, the medium Sackville holds much more than it should. It seems magically larger on the inside than on the outside. The side pockets fit a U-lock and zip closed comfortably. The shape of the main compartment is much easier to work with than, say, a Carradice. I have panniers on one bike for when panniers are needed, but most days the Sackville is all I need. I think it looks fantastic, too. I can't speak to waterproofness under downpour conditions, but I've used it in steady rain and had no leakage. The weave is *really* tight. My only reservation about the bag is this: the straps and buckles are not your friends in very cold weather. If you need to put things into the bag and take them out in weather below freezing, and you can buy only one bag, look elsewhere. I tried my Sackville on my Pugsley for a while, but was tired of taking my mittens off in sub-zero temperatures to remove items from the bag. The big plastic clips on my Carradice Super C work much better in those conditions. Note the warning on the RBW site about needing around 11 inches between the bag loops on your saddle and the top of your rear tire. Even with 11 inches, the loaded bag can still rub a little on the tire. I have use the bag on rendered bikes, though, so I haven't had a problem. I strongly suggest the Nitto Wire Guard along with the bag ( https://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r12.htm). Seems a ridiculous expense, I know, but I have found it necessary on both my AHH and my single-speed for preventing not just wear on the bag but unhelpful pressure on brake cables. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: More details about the medium Sackville saddle bag
I respectfully disagree about use below freezing. I use my Large SaddleSack for 6 months below freezing temps including freezing rain, wet to freezing snow, -20˚F temps etc. and absolutely love it. The straps and snaps are easy to work with gloves or mittens. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: More details about the medium Sackville saddle bag
Bill, Right. The buckles are below. I meant the snaps on the straps and the rings through which the straps go. *Un*snapping isn't so hard, but pushing the (cold, stiff) straps back through the rings and getting the snaps to snap is, at least in thick, lobster-claw mitts. I will say, though, that for portion of last winter's polar vortex fun during which I used the Sackville, the muddy/salty sludge stains gave the bag some wintry beausage. -- Bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?
Don't worry - Olympic weight lifters and Crossfitters are now abandoning paleo and going to talk about their Macros now. It's the circle. The cicle of Le :) -Justin, To eat his own, in Oakland -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Any reason not to lace a 32 spoke SON hub 2x?
On 09/07/2014 09:04 PM, Doug Van Cleve wrote: Howdy folks. I just read that PJW recommends 3x for this hub with this spoke count, but I can't think of any reason why 2x wouldn't be fine. The wheel is not for loaded touring or anything and the huge hub diameter makes the opposing spoke closer to tangent than they would be with any normal hub. For any regular use, a 32 spoke 2x front wheel is plenty sturdy, is it not? And what, exactly, is wrong with following the recommendation for 3x? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?
I say: let's keep this thread going in the hope of seeing more silly-entertaining videos and comments. Patrick Moore, who, working on the Project From Hell, had only time to stuff mouthfuls of odds and ends into his mouth and, as for riding, are you kidding? On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 3:43 PM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: But isn't Atkins and protein fat only diets bad for your arteries? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- *Flannery O'Connor,* Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Any reason not to lace a 32 spoke SON hub 2x?
On Sunday, September 7, 2014, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','palin...@his.com'); wrote: On 09/07/2014 09:04 PM, Doug Van Cleve wrote: Howdy folks. I just read that PJW recommends 3x for this hub with this spoke count, but I can't think of any reason why 2x wouldn't be fine. The wheel is not for loaded touring or anything and the huge hub diameter makes the opposing spoke closer to tangent than they would be with any normal hub. For any regular use, a 32 spoke 2x front wheel is plenty sturdy, is it not? And what, exactly, is wrong with following the recommendation for 3x? There's nothing wrong with it, the front wheel is just a tank anyway and I don't really see any reason not to save a few grams in the build. I'm also going to use Sapim Lasers and alloy nipples :^) It's going to be plenty strong enough anyway, I just wondered if there's some reason that's not obvious to me that would make 2x versus 3x lacing matter. Based on Ryan's experience, it should be fine. It's a CR-17 rim, And surely 2x 32 spoke is stronger than 2x 28 spoke… Thanks, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Still looking for that big MTB
I have a variety of Rivish parts that I want to move from my neglected MB2 to a bike of more appropriate size for round towning. I am looking for any rigid 80's-90s MTB in the under 500 bucks range around 23. I have been searching ebay for months and yes like a moron sold my Bianchi Grizzly in may, doh. I can buy outright or work out a trade for my MB2. I could also do a mixte trade if someone has a bigger one, also I know hard to come by. Sorry for the somewhat OT post. Safe riding yall Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Still looking for that big MTB
Hi Peter, Would you be interested in my Soma Buena Vista mixte which is a 58 in pearl white? Frame and fork only. http://store.somafab.com/sobuvifrandf.html It has never had any parts put on it at all. Completely untouched. A project I will never build because I am riding mostly recumbents these days. I bought this partly on what Grant said quite a while ago about the utility of such a bike when we get to the point of not wanting to have to throw a leg over the frame. Maybe not big enough for you. I would take $250 plus half the shipping charge if it might work for you. I am happy to take pictures if you would like. Just ask. -jb On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I have a variety of Rivish parts that I want to move from my neglected MB2 to a bike of more appropriate size for round towning. I am looking for any rigid 80's-90s MTB in the under 500 bucks range around 23. I have been searching ebay for months and yes like a moron sold my Bianchi Grizzly in may, doh. I can buy outright or work out a trade for my MB2. I could also do a mixte trade if someone has a bigger one, also I know hard to come by. Sorry for the somewhat OT post. Safe riding yall Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- John Blish Minneapolis MN USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Any reason not to lace a 32 spoke SON hub 2x?
I have thousands of miles, on- and off-road, on a similar two-cross front wheel (650B Dyad with a SON hub) with no problems thus far. I can't say there's a particularly compelling reason to build it this way, but it's been fine for me and I'm sure it will be fine for you. Matthew Snyder Seattle WA On Sunday, September 7, 2014 6:04:40 PM UTC-7, Doug Van Cleve wrote: Howdy folks. I just read that PJW recommends 3x for this hub with this spoke count, but I can't think of any reason why 2x wouldn't be fine. The wheel is not for loaded touring or anything and the huge hub diameter makes the opposing spoke closer to tangent than they would be with any normal hub. For any regular use, a 32 spoke 2x front wheel is plenty sturdy, is it not? Thanks, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Still looking for that big MTB
John, that could work! I am having trouble finding the geometry online, do you know what the virtual TT is? Thanks! On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 11:23 PM, John Blish jbl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Peter, Would you be interested in my Soma Buena Vista mixte which is a 58 in pearl white? Frame and fork only. http://store.somafab.com/sobuvifrandf.html It has never had any parts put on it at all. Completely untouched. A project I will never build because I am riding mostly recumbents these days. I bought this partly on what Grant said quite a while ago about the utility of such a bike when we get to the point of not wanting to have to throw a leg over the frame. Maybe not big enough for you. I would take $250 plus half the shipping charge if it might work for you. I am happy to take pictures if you would like. Just ask. -jb On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I have a variety of Rivish parts that I want to move from my neglected MB2 to a bike of more appropriate size for round towning. I am looking for any rigid 80's-90s MTB in the under 500 bucks range around 23. I have been searching ebay for months and yes like a moron sold my Bianchi Grizzly in may, doh. I can buy outright or work out a trade for my MB2. I could also do a mixte trade if someone has a bigger one, also I know hard to come by. Sorry for the somewhat OT post. Safe riding yall Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- John Blish Minneapolis MN USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Still looking for that big MTB
nevermind, I see it now http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/buena-vista-complete-bicycle. On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: John, that could work! I am having trouble finding the geometry online, do you know what the virtual TT is? Thanks! On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 11:23 PM, John Blish jbl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Peter, Would you be interested in my Soma Buena Vista mixte which is a 58 in pearl white? Frame and fork only. http://store.somafab.com/sobuvifrandf.html It has never had any parts put on it at all. Completely untouched. A project I will never build because I am riding mostly recumbents these days. I bought this partly on what Grant said quite a while ago about the utility of such a bike when we get to the point of not wanting to have to throw a leg over the frame. Maybe not big enough for you. I would take $250 plus half the shipping charge if it might work for you. I am happy to take pictures if you would like. Just ask. -jb On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I have a variety of Rivish parts that I want to move from my neglected MB2 to a bike of more appropriate size for round towning. I am looking for any rigid 80's-90s MTB in the under 500 bucks range around 23. I have been searching ebay for months and yes like a moron sold my Bianchi Grizzly in may, doh. I can buy outright or work out a trade for my MB2. I could also do a mixte trade if someone has a bigger one, also I know hard to come by. Sorry for the somewhat OT post. Safe riding yall Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- John Blish Minneapolis MN USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Still looking for that big MTB
Not nevermind on the deal, i mean on the chart. Damn internets. On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: nevermind, I see it now http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/buena-vista-complete-bicycle. On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: John, that could work! I am having trouble finding the geometry online, do you know what the virtual TT is? Thanks! On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 11:23 PM, John Blish jbl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Peter, Would you be interested in my Soma Buena Vista mixte which is a 58 in pearl white? Frame and fork only. http://store.somafab.com/sobuvifrandf.html It has never had any parts put on it at all. Completely untouched. A project I will never build because I am riding mostly recumbents these days. I bought this partly on what Grant said quite a while ago about the utility of such a bike when we get to the point of not wanting to have to throw a leg over the frame. Maybe not big enough for you. I would take $250 plus half the shipping charge if it might work for you. I am happy to take pictures if you would like. Just ask. -jb On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I have a variety of Rivish parts that I want to move from my neglected MB2 to a bike of more appropriate size for round towning. I am looking for any rigid 80's-90s MTB in the under 500 bucks range around 23. I have been searching ebay for months and yes like a moron sold my Bianchi Grizzly in may, doh. I can buy outright or work out a trade for my MB2. I could also do a mixte trade if someone has a bigger one, also I know hard to come by. Sorry for the somewhat OT post. Safe riding yall Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- John Blish Minneapolis MN USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Well, Damn
Dang, Chris, I've had dreams where I bounce off cars and land on my feet--nice work! Sorry about the Homer, but glad you're OK. Broadway in general is such mess. Don't have to ride it that often, but every time I do it puts me on edge. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: My Hilsen is out of commission for a little while. Heading on NW Broadway towards the bridge, at Flanders, when a silver VW Golf making a left turn hits me. I go up and over and make a nice dent on the windshield. Roll back down when the car stops and land on my feet (like a cat!) and walk away, a bit dazed. Cops show up, we have a party with the firefighters, ambulance comes and leaves. Witness gives his story, all the data gets swapped. Front rack is bent, front fork is askew, wheel is tacoed, but everything is fixable. Police officer gives me a ride back to my apartment (hey it turns out cops carry bikes on their cars all the time, by fitting the wheels between the grill and the big external bumper on the front). X-rays turn out okay, no fractures. Everyone at the hospital was great. It was about 8 hours ago and I'm just coming down from the endorphins. I got a malt milkshake (horchata cookie!) to celebrate. Oh yeah, and my helmet is all cracked up. I'll be fine though. Anyway, keep an eye out there... Cheers cc still picking pieces of windshield glass out of his hair -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
