[RBW] Re: Community
very well said. as a still newish member, i'd add welcoming and tolerant to the list. i've learned a lot and felt none of the shame that sometimes comes with newbie mechanical tinkering. hopefully one day ill be able to contribute as much as ive absorbed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Somewhat but not entirely OT: Citronella candles/mosquitos?
For the coastal Californians among us, rubbing crushed eucalyptus leaves on your exposed skin works pretty well. Since eucs grow like weeds out here... And Australians, of course. Peter (hippie East Bay Regional Park ranger taught me that 40-odd years ago) Adler Berkeley, CA/USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Suggestions please for a Bay Area mountain or mixed terrain ride Friday July 3 or Saturday July 4
Sports Basement opened a store near downtown Berkeley a few months ago, but I'm not sure whether they rent bikes. If they do, it's a lot closer than going out to Walnut Creek. General warning: Unless you're a regular climber, the slope up to Grizzly Peak or Skyline (the roads near the ridge of the Berkeley Hills) is pretty ferocious. It's part of the classic East Bay roadie route called Three Bears, which crosses the hills and does a big loop on bear-named roads between the hills and Walnut creek before heading back across the ridge to Berkeley. You might want to drive up to the ridge to start. Peter Berkeley lifer Adler Berkeley, CA/USA On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 9:14:57 PM UTC-7, Christian wrote: Thanks Ryan and Justin. I think staying nearby will be easiest plus almost no driving. I think I'm gonna rent an Ibis from Sports Basement and go to Joaquin Miller and Redwood and maybe Wildcat. Sorry for the detour from Riv content but I thought this might be a good place to get some good local intel. Christian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Community
Couldn't agree more, this is the most real virtual community I've been a part of and it truly makes my day better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Community
see, you agreed with me On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 8:14:53 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: As spiritual leader my one pronouncement is that if we had a leader we wouldn't be this group. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Community
As spiritual leader my one pronouncement is that if we had a leader we wouldn't be this group. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: reduced prices! tweed bags, canvas bags...
Li'l Loafer is gone. Still available are... Duluth Pack green canvas Field Satchel, very good condition - $80 Duluth Pack blue canvas Deluxe Shell Bag, fair condition - $30 Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Mark's/M18 failures?
Just disregard the rating . . . . as noted . . . . if anything it can be more stable with the same strength with 5 mount points . As expected, my rack has been perfect. The bolts have are the non loosening type, with nylon in them . The stays can be cold set bent as needed also. On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 6:31:27 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: Maybe spot welding the tang for and aft of the bolts would work, once you got it centered where you need it on your bike. I was also recommended to use a strap by an RBW employee. That's not confidence building. What puzzles me is the M18 is rated at a 17lb load the Marks is only 4 lbs. But they look like the same rack structurally, except the Marks has the tab in the front and an extra set of eyelets. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Community
Do I? Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 8:07:46 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: see, you agreed with me On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 8:14:53 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: As spiritual leader my one pronouncement is that if we had a leader we wouldn't be this group. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Community
Deac gets to be our spiritual leader, and Patrick our temporal. We're a fun group here, and all on even standing. On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 1:28:32 AM UTC-5, drew wrote: very well said. as a still newish member, i'd add welcoming and tolerant to the list. i've learned a lot and felt none of the shame that sometimes comes with newbie mechanical tinkering. hopefully one day ill be able to contribute as much as ive absorbed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Community
A humbling example of unanimity. Sometimes just reading, others writing. A great group amongst whom to realize one's weirdness about bikes and perspectives on life have been tempered by the very individual experiences shared by others. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 5:27:50 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: Hi friends, Just a note to again say how much this group means to me. I think of the care and concern with which regard each other, the helpfulness, the kind tone, the generosity given online and off—it is really something special. Parts broken or lost? Someone might send you one. Bike stolen? Alerts go out. Recovering from surgery? Empathy, advice, and well wishes offered. Flumoxed by a technical problem? Many solutions expounded upon (some even might work!) Need advice about a route? Someone's ridden it. Recovered your stolen bike? Cheers erupt. A member of our own passes? Hearts break. Someone forgets and snarks a tiny bit? We all forgive and admit it's just the dregs of winter. Wondering if anyone's posted in the past hour? One of the Patricks to the rescue! Buy a bag from a lister? They might just give it to you as a kindness for a long forgotten post. Truly, this community is special and I treasure these relationships. with love, Riv Chica Warrior -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Somewhat but not entirely OT: Citronella candles/mosquitos?
Think about Patrick , it is the smoke that is immune to the skeeters ... for you to be immune like the smoke you have to be completely and utterly immersed in that smoke ! That means a well enclosed area , no airflow at all , literally a room that is smoke . . . . or a smokehouse . I doubt anyone would find this pleasing in any way . . . and to add to that . . . the moment you leave the smokehouse BAM ! they're waiting for you . Yum yum yum . . . . .lol . So you may now wonder . . . . how can I be immune then ? This question cannot be satisfactorily answered as long as you identify yourself as someone who is vulnerable and in need of protection. For this, there is no protection . Have you noticed, with all these so called smart minds and the smart products and solutions , there are as many skeeters as ever, and as people being bit as ever. Does this not stir something in you , for an Absolute and infallible answer ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Community
Nice people,very knowledgeable , always helpful. I'm thankful I have found this group. There would be a big void in my life without this group. Jon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Mark's/M18 failures?
No offense, but I think the title of this thread is misleading - I've never heard of a Nitto rack failure. On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 7:34:44 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote: Just disregard the rating . . . . as noted . . . . if anything it can be more stable with the same strength with 5 mount points . As expected, my rack has been perfect. The bolts have are the non loosening type, with nylon in them . The stays can be cold set bent as needed also. On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 6:31:27 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: Maybe spot welding the tang for and aft of the bolts would work, once you got it centered where you need it on your bike. I was also recommended to use a strap by an RBW employee. That's not confidence building. What puzzles me is the M18 is rated at a 17lb load the Marks is only 4 lbs. But they look like the same rack structurally, except the Marks has the tab in the front and an extra set of eyelets. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Somewhat but not entirely OT: Citronella candles/mosquitos?
Someone else suggested a fan -- would have to be free standing since this is an open patio; but I'd prefer the absence of mechanical clutter. I'll try the Citronella; desultory (or better) Googling raised a modest consensus that citronella candles do work, Consumer Reports notwithstanding, and for $5 I can do my own experimenting. Aside: the very modest backyard is particularly nice this summer, with the trumpet vine covering more and more of the cinderblock walls, a trend I am encouraging with conscientious watering and fertilizer. Our brilliant and blazing sun does the rest. I had 6 additional vines put in and I'm hoping Miracle Gro will accelerate their growth -- a friend told me he gets 40 feet of grape vine growth a year with this stuff. Since the bulk of the garden is (nice) gravel and (nice) pavement blocks, the TV is crucial to transforming what would otherwise be sterility into pleasantness. (Zen gardens work best in a greener, wetter climate -- Zen in the desert is rather beside the point, its point being Void in illusory plenitude, or One in multiplicity. OK, enough sermonizing.) Near or practically in the bosque, the birds are particularly pleasant in the early morning. On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:54 AM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Patrick, Have you considered installing an overhead ceiling fan or using a portable freestanding fan to stir up those calm conditions? Matt On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 8:52:31 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Are large citronella candles effective in repelling mosquitos in calm conditions? My back porch is small, 10' X 10'. I hear it is best to put the candle at ground level? I am sure that this has some application to S240s. Thanks. Patrick yes, twilight mosquitos in high desert ABQ, near the bosque Moore -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: reduced prices! tweed bags, canvas bags...
Deluxe Shell Bag is gone. Still available is... Duluth Pack green canvas Field Satchel, very good condition - $80 (total aside... I thought this would be the first to go) Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Altus rear derailer = upgrade from DeerHead
... but can one truly embrace Altus without sacrificing one's foppishness? I'm scared, Bill... need affirmation... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Somewhat but not entirely OT: Citronella candles/mosquitos?
ooppss, I see Eric already suggested this. Matt On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 7:54:23 AM UTC-7, hangtownmatt wrote: Patrick, Have you considered installing an overhead ceiling fan or using a portable freestanding fan to stir up those calm conditions? Matt On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 8:52:31 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Are large citronella candles effective in repelling mosquitos in calm conditions? My back porch is small, 10' X 10'. I hear it is best to put the candle at ground level? I am sure that this has some application to S240s. Thanks. Patrick yes, twilight mosquitos in high desert ABQ, near the bosque Moore -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Somewhat but not entirely OT: Citronella candles/mosquitos?
Patrick, Have you considered installing an overhead ceiling fan or using a portable freestanding fan to stir up those calm conditions? Matt On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 8:52:31 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Are large citronella candles effective in repelling mosquitos in calm conditions? My back porch is small, 10' X 10'. I hear it is best to put the candle at ground level? I am sure that this has some application to S240s. Thanks. Patrick yes, twilight mosquitos in high desert ABQ, near the bosque Moore -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] For fans of the Bleriot
classicretro (@classicretro https://twitter.com/classicretro) 7/2/15, 4:19 AM https://twitter.com/classicretro/status/616566858410524672 Poster 1910 pic.twitter.com/LA69jVPZCs http://t.co/LA69jVPZCs via Tweetbot http://tapbots.com/ --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com campyonlyguy.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Community
Right on. In my last two notes I got really good advice on dealing with synergy rims and bike carriers that can deal with fenders, albas mixed frames. I'm very appreciative to everyone. Oh yea, and teaching my grandson to ride. I sprang for a new bike that fits him, has smooth tires, and pedals smoothly. All of a sudden he's in love with his bike instead of the tag along. I also convinced his mom only to use the training wheels until he had mastered pedaling, watching where he was going and steering. I'm guessing a couple of weeks. Thanks to all who helped me with that. Michael On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 5:27:50 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: Hi friends, Just a note to again say how much this group means to me. I think of the care and concern with which regard each other, the helpfulness, the kind tone, the generosity given online and off—it is really something special. Parts broken or lost? Someone might send you one. Bike stolen? Alerts go out. Recovering from surgery? Empathy, advice, and well wishes offered. Flumoxed by a technical problem? Many solutions expounded upon (some even might work!) Need advice about a route? Someone's ridden it. Recovered your stolen bike? Cheers erupt. A member of our own passes? Hearts break. Someone forgets and snarks a tiny bit? We all forgive and admit it's just the dregs of winter. Wondering if anyone's posted in the past hour? One of the Patricks to the rescue! Buy a bag from a lister? They might just give it to you as a kindness for a long forgotten post. Truly, this community is special and I treasure these relationships. with love, Riv Chica Warrior -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Friction Shifting Dyna-sys
Most sources claim there is not enough cable pull in non-dyna-sys levers to shift across the whole cassette. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Bleriot: your take on it.
I have a 57cm Bleriot and a 58cm Rambouillet. They are two different bikes IMO. The Bleriot can handle much wider tires and that gives it an advantage on unpaved surfaces. It has a smoother, more comfortable ride although I attribute most of that to the wider, softer tires. The RAM is a little more responsive. I've never put much of a front load on either so I can't answer that question. If I could only own one of them, for my type of riding I think I'd pick the Bleriot. Interesting that this question has come up, both bikes have been discontinued for at least five years. On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 3:33:20 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: 1. If you have owned both, what are the diffs in ride quality? 2. How does the 700c or 26 wheels make it feel different than the 650b Bleriot? 3. Front loads. Do they both carry them well? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Friction Shifting Dyna-sys
On 07/02/2015 04:50 PM, Clayton.sf wrote: Most sources claim there is not enough cable pull in non-dyna-sys levers to shift across the whole cassette. You obviously are basing that on real-world experience. What are those sources basing the claims on? AFAIK there's nothing unusual or special about the range of an 8 speed bar end shifter. Perhaps those sources never tried? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] A winnipeg riv at the start of a 65km charity ride
This is my 2001 Curt Goodrich Rivendell Road. Colour is Harvest Gold which actually is a really neat colour Picture was taken by the official Cycle on Life charity ride photographer at the start of the 65KM loop to Ste Adolpge and back on July 7. My partner, Terry, is guarding the bike while I take care of some pre-ride business V-brand bar bag 46 Dream Bars w TRP levers and very tarnished Crane bell and ratty cotton tape and lugged stem Wheels - FIR EA60 rims w 90's era Campy C-Record hubs; Pasela 700 X 32 tires Suntour Superbe ProCrankset; inexpensive Shimano 7-speed freewheel (14 - 28) w Campy Super-record derailleur and silver shifters MKS Royal Nuevo pedals, Brooks B-17 Champion Special on Nitto S-83 seatpost -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Community
It's a lovely place, don't you think? I've been around from the beginning, and off-and-on at iBob since 2000 when I got my first computer. My first forays into internet-dom were with this vibe, and I later learned it's a very rare thing. I'm glad to know you all. Joe who refuses to search the archives from his early days for fear of finding what madness he was spouting Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 2:27:50 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Hi friends, Just a note to again say how much this group means to me. I think of the care and concern with which regard each other, the helpfulness, the kind tone, the generosity given online and off—it is really something special. Parts broken or lost? Someone might send you one. Bike stolen? Alerts go out. Recovering from surgery? Empathy, advice, and well wishes offered. Flumoxed by a technical problem? Many solutions expounded upon (some even might work!) Need advice about a route? Someone's ridden it. Recovered your stolen bike? Cheers erupt. A member of our own passes? Hearts break. Someone forgets and snarks a tiny bit? We all forgive and admit it's just the dregs of winter. Wondering if anyone's posted in the past hour? One of the Patricks to the rescue! Buy a bag from a lister? They might just give it to you as a kindness for a long forgotten post. Truly, this community is special and I treasure these relationships. with love, Riv Chica Warrior -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Community
Liesl: Thanks for reminding us of these special qualities. I think it all starts with the wonderful treatment we've received from the good people at RBWHQ, and we carry that forward. dougP On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 2:27:50 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Hi friends, Just a note to again say how much this group means to me. I think of the care and concern with which regard each other, the helpfulness, the kind tone, the generosity given online and off—it is really something special. Parts broken or lost? Someone might send you one. Bike stolen? Alerts go out. Recovering from surgery? Empathy, advice, and well wishes offered. Flumoxed by a technical problem? Many solutions expounded upon (some even might work!) Need advice about a route? Someone's ridden it. Recovered your stolen bike? Cheers erupt. A member of our own passes? Hearts break. Someone forgets and snarks a tiny bit? We all forgive and admit it's just the dregs of winter. Wondering if anyone's posted in the past hour? One of the Patricks to the rescue! Buy a bag from a lister? They might just give it to you as a kindness for a long forgotten post. Truly, this community is special and I treasure these relationships. with love, Riv Chica Warrior -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Bleriot: your take on it.
I've owned both (plus their twins, Romulus and Saluki), and think there's a slight bias towards tight-switchback-roads responsiveness to the 700c bikes, but not enough that you would notice a difference after a month of replacing one with the other. They all have that magic Riv ride which - in car terms - seems to meld the floating comfort of an old Chevy Impala with the lithe turning ability of a Porsche. I honestly don't know how Grant does it. On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 12:33:20 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote: 1. If you have owned both, what are the diffs in ride quality? 2. How does the 700c or 26 wheels make it feel different than the 650b Bleriot? 3. Front loads. Do they both carry them well? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Super Foppin' with the Tweedster!
Liesl, Oh my, I don't know much about foppishness, but that Saluki is gorgeous! I love the red and how well the tweed complements. Just lovely! -Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet vs. Bleriot: your take on it.
On 07/02/2015 07:53 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: Some Rams will take at least 32s and possibly 35s and fenders. When I put 35 Kojaks on mine, there was still a great deal of room under bridges and crown and between fork legs and stays. Mine was one of the first orange ones. I have no experience with the later ones. It was, as I described, limited to 28mm with fenders. However, the true, actual choke point was the Shimano long reach dual pivot sidepull brakes, which did not on their own open wide enough to even clear a 28 mm tire. On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com mailto:palin...@his.com wrote: On 07/02/2015 03:33 PM, Lungimsam wrote: 1. If you have owned both, what are the diffs in ride quality? I owned a Rambouillet and a Saluki, Bleriot's older and fancier twin. They both have a characteristic, identifieable this is a Rivendell ride; however since the Saluki can fit 42mm Hetres (I did, and I believe Tony, the current owner does too) there's that typical, wonderful every road is a smooth road silkiness to the ride of the Saluki that the Rambouillet, limited as it is to 28 mm tires (with fenders) can't begin to come close to. Also: the Saluki is a great bike on gravel roads, as long as the grade doesn't get up into the teens and beyond. There's a lot of wheel flop, and climbing a 14% grade on gravel in a 22 gear it's hard to maintain directional stability. With 28mm tires the Rambouillet for me was entirely unsuitable for gravel, full stop. 2. How does the 700c or 26 wheels make it feel different than the 650b Bleriot? See above re: ride. But note, the geometry of the Rambouillet and the Saluki are very different. 73 degree head angle with the Rambouillet vs 71 degree with the Saluki. That will have as much of an effect as the difference in tire size. 3. Front loads. Do they both carry them well? I never carried a load on the front of the Rambouillet. The Saluki had fittings for a rack, and I had a Berthoud rack on mine (yes, /that/ one). Because the (largest size Berthoud) bag was supported on a rack low down, it handled loads fairly well, with just one exception. Comparing the Saluki to the MAP Randonneur that replaced it, with the same weight of load when straightening up from a turn with the Saluki it felt as though I was lifting the load with the handlebars. With the MAP you really don't feel the load at all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Anyone riding PBP on a Riv this year?
I'm taking my 63cm Hilsen. I've done the SR series last year and just completed this year's SR. It's got a Son dynamo, Luxos U, dynamo taillight, large Berthoud bag on a Mark's rack, Brooks B17, Noodle bars, Silver bar ends. It's a very Rivish ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet vs. Bleriot: your take on it.
Howdy, I had a 57cm Bleriot and my wife had a 50cm blue Ram. The Ram had 26 inch wheels and we ran 1.25 Paselas. There was ample room for fenders but we lived in Tucson so didn't have them installed. I can't say too much about the ride quality outside of the fact that she loved the Ram. I would describe the Ram as a road bike with more clearance and the Bleriot as a country bike. They were both very nice bikes but the Ram was much nicer if you inspected the details. I have only heard of problems on the early (Orange) bikes and I thought they were all larger sizes. If you want a more traditional road bike, get the Ram. If you want more of a country/ gravel bike, get (keep?) the Bleriot. Cheers! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Friction Shifting Dyna-sys
On 07/02/2015 05:55 PM, Clayton.sf wrote: To quote sheldon: * Shimano Dyna-Sys 10-speed shifters and derailers use a longer cable pull than other Shimano models, and must be used together. And from Riv: FLASH! SRAM's 9, 10, 11sp mountain, Sram 10 and 11sp road; Shimano mountain 10sp dynasys, Shimano 11sp road (Shimano 10sp Road will sorta work but it's hard to dial in the right gear since the cogs are so close); Campy 10/11sp rear derailers don't seem to work with this shifter. the Riv thing refers to their silver shifter, but they actuall do work as well - at least for me ;-). I think it probably takes exceptional skill to friction shift 10. If you've got it, flaunt it. Next up, 11! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Friction Shifting Dyna-sys
Most new shimano rear ders are now dynasys. Some of them come with the clutch others don't. You nothing else to use the clutch. It is compatible with a normal cassette. It does increase chain tension. Great for 1x drivtrains but also nice to reduce chains lap in general. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Altus rear derailer = upgrade from DeerHead
My dream is to deck out a custom lugged steel frame with full Dura-Ace STI, then ditch the D-A rear mech for a gigantic heavy Altus just so I can tilt my beret rakishly when I asked Why? and answer, Well sir. I like it. ;) On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 11:24:58 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: The true essence of foppishness is self-awareness and excessively deliberate fine-tuning of one's appearance. Somebody who turns the tiniest detail of one's bicycle into an event worthy of showing-off is a bicycle fop. So, me showing off a cheap derailer is the utter definition of foppishness. Hey, look at me! I'm using a cheap derailer and it works great! On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 7:42:00 AM UTC-7, Montclair BobbyB wrote: ... but can one truly embrace Altus without sacrificing one's foppishness? I'm scared, Bill... need affirmation... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Whidbey Island Rides
Darin - Here is a northern loop route. http://ridewithgps.com/routes/8831728 I'll be up there tonight through Sunday, but getting a real ride in this weekend is looking tenuous at best. Brian Hanson Seattle, WA On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 8:15:17 AM UTC-7, Darin G. wrote: This high desert rider will be visiting Whidbey Island in Washington next month and would like some ride recommendations. We will be staying near Coupeville. Looking for medium length rides--30-50 miles with interesting views, quite roads and perhaps an interesting place to stop and refuel. Also, any ideas for other activities would be appreciated. I've been there before but only in the fall and winter, so I'm looking forward to experiencing the northwest at its summer best! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] A winnipeg riv at the start of a 65km charity ride
yeah...it worked out; it's an unusual color and the only bike of its kind at this ridewhich was Jun 7...not July 7. Colour varies quite a bit adccording to light conditions On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 7:18:55 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: That color has always been one of my top pics! Almost veered that way in 2001! On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Ryan Fleming ryanmallo...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: This is my 2001 Curt Goodrich Rivendell Road. Colour is Harvest Gold which actually is a really neat colour Picture was taken by the official Cycle on Life charity ride photographer at the start of the 65KM loop to Ste Adolpge and back on July 7. My partner, Terry, is guarding the bike while I take care of some pre-ride business V-brand bar bag 46 Dream Bars w TRP levers and very tarnished Crane bell and ratty cotton tape and lugged stem Wheels - FIR EA60 rims w 90's era Campy C-Record hubs; Pasela 700 X 32 tires Suntour Superbe ProCrankset; inexpensive Shimano 7-speed freewheel (14 - 28) w Campy Super-record derailleur and silver shifters MKS Royal Nuevo pedals, Brooks B-17 Champion Special on Nitto S-83 seatpost -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Friction Shifting Dyna-sys
Sorry - that's I too have read that it would not be POSSIBLE. On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 8:28:55 PM UTC-6, iamkeith wrote: Darn it. I wish you'd posted this about a week ago. I just purchased some components for a Dynashift setup on my new mountain bike. As you mention, the clutch derailleur was the main thing I wanted to gain, but the 40 tooth rear cog is pretty appealing, too. Mostly though, I'm just sort of getting tired of putting so much effort into sourcing discontinued parts, mixing and matching brands and series, and otherwise generally hacking the system. This will be the first time in as long as long as I can remember that I went all-modern. (Though I guess 10 speed is no longer state-of-the-art, with the advent of 11 speed.). For mid to mid-high level components, like XT, its also starting to seem like its cheaper to just get whatever is current. Just out of principal though, I did spring for some dynasys-specific Microshift thumbies with a friction mode, and a Whipperman chain with a real master-link. Regarding internet rumors and mechanics' claims about the feasibility of what you achieved, Clayton: I too have read many times that it would not be impossible, but the main reason was the notion that the tension on the derailleur is so much higher that it would overpower the older shifter. Interesting that this isn't an issue. Also interesting that the 8 speed chain fits ok within the narrower 10 speed pulley cage! Thanks for posting this! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs
I suggest you take a look at these Sport Rider racks: : http://www.modernbike.com/hollywood-racks-hitch-racks On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 5:52:05 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: I have been riding bikes with fenders for about 15 years now and have only found one downside - they often don't play well with racks, neither locking racks nor car racks. We have a Saris TBones Hitch rack on our Prius and I found it worked well with both my Saluki or Ram and Pat's Sequoia. However I have never liked having the weight of the bikes up that high with the additional stress it puts on the rack and hitch. Now Pat has switched to riding a Betty with Albatross bars and I am always struggling to make the two bikes fit. It is doable as a two person job. I bought and tried one of these parallel TT but it made the situation worse. It's a challenge to get the her handle bars my front rackto clear. Likewise my bars her rear rack. Since both bikes have racks fenders, they are fairly heavy as bike go today but still within the racks spec. Still the vertical support flexes some under load. So... I have been looking at a new hitch racks, especially ones where the bikes sit in a well and get clamped around the tire. Does anyone have experience with these to share? Do you have to put the top clamp around the tire, or is it OK to put it over the fender? The Yakima rack installation instructions specifically say to put the top hook within 2 of the fork, which clearly rules out using it with any top rack, like my Mark's mini. The Saris instructions don't say that is necessary, but the video on their web site shows them setting it up that way. Finally, how close together are the wells; is there sufficient space for Albatross bars? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTB: Seat post 27.2 plus Weinmann 750s or Mafac Racers
I am 90% sure that I have a seat post- let me check the bin. If I do you are welcome to it for free. I may also have some brakes. I saved an old Trek from the rubbish heap but the frame isn't rideable so it is really just parts. Again, if there is something you want you can have it gratis. Give me a day to send you some pics. Cheers and happy 4th! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Cheviot compared to Sam Hillborne?
I hate to rub it in but I grabbed one of the last chance sage Sam's. (it helps to be color blind-i'll take anything-my wife says it's lovely). I was on the fence between the two but in the end I thought well I could maybe use drops w the sam and not really w the chev-even though I haven't used drops in years and probably won't. And saving 200 helps too! It really is one of the best bikes I've ever ridden...so perfectly neutral and quicker than I thought. I've ridden it every day now for a few weeks and it's just-dang perfect. I'm sure the Chev is top notch too-maybe one day. Can't go wrong but man if ya get a chance on the sam snag it- it's awesome! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Friction Shifting Dyna-sys
Darn it. I wish you'd posted this about a week ago. I just purchased some components for a Dynashift setup on my new mountain bike. As you mention, the clutch derailleur was the main thing I wanted to gain, but the 40 tooth rear cog is pretty appealing, too. Mostly though, I'm just sort of getting tired of putting so much effort into sourcing discontinued parts, mixing and matching brands and series, and otherwise generally hacking the system. This will be the first time in as long as long as I can remember that I went all-modern. (Though I guess 10 speed is no longer state-of-the-art, with the advent of 11 speed.). For mid to mid-high level components, like XT, its also starting to seem like its cheaper to just get whatever is current. Just out of principal though, I did spring for some dynasys-specific Microshift thumbies with a friction mode, and a Whipperman chain with a real master-link. Regarding internet rumors and mechanics' claims about the feasibility of what you achieved, Clayton: I too have read many times that it would not be impossible, but the main reason was the notion that the tension on the derailleur is so much higher that it would overpower the older shifter. Interesting that this isn't an issue. Also interesting that the 8 speed chain fits ok within the narrower 10 speed pulley cage! Thanks for posting this! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] I can't get the shifting dialed in
I'm so frustrated with my drive train. I had Shimano 9 speed bar ends with a front triple. They worked great in index mode. The indexing got finicky so I switched to friction. It worked well for a bit then the ghost shifting started. I switched to Silver bar ends. They feel great but I just can't get them dialed in. I've worked on it it, I took it to my LBS and they tuned it up, but it still doesn't shift right. I had them check for a bent derailer hanger and they said it wasn't. When I shift to the two or three lowest (biggest) cogs, it will not stay on that cog. The problem is worse when I am going from higher to lower gear. If I mess with the shifter it will finally stay in gear, but it's really frustrating, especially when riding lots of rollers. I can't descend a roller and then hit the gear I need for the climb. It always skips out. If I do slight adjustments to the cable tension the best I can do is move the problem from the lowest end of the gears to the middle part. It's driving me crazy! By the way, all of the parts, chain rings, cassette, and chain, are new (they were all bought at the same time and now have around 1500-1700km on them. Any ideas? Please!?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Are all blue Rambouillets 700c, and another frame question?
Both 50 and 52 are 26 for sure. I don't know about 54. My wife has a 50, if you want me to take any measurements or photos. I'm sort of getting the feeling, between these two threads, that you're considering buying one??? My wife loves hers. I think it's really perfectly proportioned, too - when I look at it, I can't even imagine how you'd make a bike this size work with 700c wheels, unless the headtube shrunk to the point that the top tube and down tube lugs overlapped each other. She has never complained about TCO either, which is great for someone that rides only occasionally, and is something that I can only attribute to the smaller wheel. I've never heard of any problems with the smaller sizes, so I'm not sure what to say about that. Both of our Rams (her 50 and my 60) are from the later end of the run. I think hers has slightly less tire clearance than mine, but she doesn't like fenders so its not an issue.Still, she runs 1.25 (35) pasellas with clearance for miles, and has also run 1.6 (42) Marathon Supremes - though they had to be aired-down to fit past the calipers. On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 4:53:06 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: I've seen blue 26-inchers..I believe all 50cm Rams came that way. I'm less sure about 52s. On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 3:26:48 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote: 1. Are all blue Rambouillets 700c? 2. At what size do you start getting into (if any on these bikes) the problems of small sized bikes? 52? 50? I notice they have different rakes, CS lengths, head tube tilt, and drop than the other sizes. http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/rambflyer/17.html 3. Was there a distinctive run of frames that suffered from cracked rear side chainstay/dropouts that should be avoided? I have heard a couple times on this forum of this happening and was wondering if anyone knows if there were enough broken stays to amount to a design flaw. Thanks for any info. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Longshot: WTT/WTB Thomson 90mm Elite 25.4 15^ rise
I have a Thomson 120mm 5^ stem in 25.4. Very good condition. Need to get the same in a 90mm with a 15^ rise. Trade preferred but purchase is option if price is right. Thanks! -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: wtb: Rivendell Atlantis - 58cm
Eric: Recently there was a 56 on the bob list The 56 58 overlap in PBH, so if you're at the lower end of the PBH range for a 58 a 56 may be worth a look. It will also depend on what tires you intend to use. The 56 is 26. I have a 58 with 40 mm 700c, and another list member has a 56 with 2.35 (??) 26. We've swapped bikes for a short ride they were darn close, even without changing seat or bar heights. I've also ridden a 61 cm Atlantis with 45 mm Smart Sams, and while it was a bit of a reach was perfectly rideable. A lot depends on where your PBH falls in Riv's size ranges. Good luck in your search. dougP On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 11:20:09 AM UTC-7, Eric wrote: Bump! Still looking... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Community
Yes, it stems from Riv itself. Hey, why not consider buying a yoyo with your next order and help buy the merry rivsters lunch! Erin and I got ours in the mail today and we're 'walkin' the dog' for sure. It is part of that care for community that permeates Riv. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] A winnipeg riv at the start of a 65km charity ride
That color has always been one of my top pics! Almost veered that way in 2001! On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Ryan Fleming ryanmalloryflem...@gmail.com wrote: This is my 2001 Curt Goodrich Rivendell Road. Colour is Harvest Gold which actually is a really neat colour Picture was taken by the official Cycle on Life charity ride photographer at the start of the 65KM loop to Ste Adolpge and back on July 7. My partner, Terry, is guarding the bike while I take care of some pre-ride business V-brand bar bag 46 Dream Bars w TRP levers and very tarnished Crane bell and ratty cotton tape and lugged stem Wheels - FIR EA60 rims w 90's era Campy C-Record hubs; Pasela 700 X 32 tires Suntour Superbe ProCrankset; inexpensive Shimano 7-speed freewheel (14 - 28) w Campy Super-record derailleur and silver shifters MKS Royal Nuevo pedals, Brooks B-17 Champion Special on Nitto S-83 seatpost -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Community
Thanks, Liesl, for saying what I feel about this group but am too bashful to say. Great idea to buy a yoyo to fund Riv staff lunches. Evan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Anyone riding PBP on a Riv this year?
I know of at least one brand spankin' new, 63cm AHH should be among the field. =- Joe Bunik not my 63cm AHH Walnut Creek, CA On 7/2/15, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I *was* going to ride my Bleriot this time, until an Alex Singer fell into my lap a few months ago. Rode PBP on my Quickbeam in ’07. --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com campyonlyguy.blogspot.com On Jul 2, 2015, at 3:40 PM, Lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Just wundrin'. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Friction Shifting Dyna-sys
So, ah, what's the benefit of a dyna-sys RD for a mountain bike? I'm not being sarcastic, I googled it but couldn't really understand through all the marketing... Does dyna-sys equal clutch derailer? Is the idea to get better chain tension on bumpy bits? Could you just put a clutch derailer on a friction-shifted 8sp cassette or do you need other special bits? Thanks Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: For fans of the Bleriot
As the kids would say, that's hella cool, Eric ;) Joe Bernard @JosephRemiB On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 8:47:11 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: *classicretro *(@classicretro https://twitter.com/classicretro) 7/2/15, 4:19 AM https://twitter.com/classicretro/status/616566858410524672 Poster 1910 *pic.twitter.com/LA69jVPZCs* http://t.co/LA69jVPZCs *via Tweetbot* http://tapbots.com/ --Eric Norris campyo...@me.com javascript: www.campyonly.com campyonlyguy.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet vs. Bleriot: your take on it.
Some Rams will take at least 32s and possibly 35s and fenders. When I put 35 Kojaks on mine, there was still a great deal of room under bridges and crown and between fork legs and stays. On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 07/02/2015 03:33 PM, Lungimsam wrote: 1. If you have owned both, what are the diffs in ride quality? I owned a Rambouillet and a Saluki, Bleriot's older and fancier twin. They both have a characteristic, identifieable this is a Rivendell ride; however since the Saluki can fit 42mm Hetres (I did, and I believe Tony, the current owner does too) there's that typical, wonderful every road is a smooth road silkiness to the ride of the Saluki that the Rambouillet, limited as it is to 28 mm tires (with fenders) can't begin to come close to. Also: the Saluki is a great bike on gravel roads, as long as the grade doesn't get up into the teens and beyond. There's a lot of wheel flop, and climbing a 14% grade on gravel in a 22 gear it's hard to maintain directional stability. With 28mm tires the Rambouillet for me was entirely unsuitable for gravel, full stop. 2. How does the 700c or 26 wheels make it feel different than the 650b Bleriot? See above re: ride. But note, the geometry of the Rambouillet and the Saluki are very different. 73 degree head angle with the Rambouillet vs 71 degree with the Saluki. That will have as much of an effect as the difference in tire size. 3. Front loads. Do they both carry them well? I never carried a load on the front of the Rambouillet. The Saluki had fittings for a rack, and I had a Berthoud rack on mine (yes, /that/ one). Because the (largest size Berthoud) bag was supported on a rack low down, it handled loads fairly well, with just one exception. Comparing the Saluki to the MAP Randonneur that replaced it, with the same weight of load when straightening up from a turn with the Saluki it felt as though I was lifting the load with the handlebars. With the MAP you really don't feel the load at all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Seersucker shirts
So I became a believer of riding in LS seersucker shirts on warm days last year. Since then, I've been on the lookout for seersuckers that don't cost an arm and a leg. Found an eBay seller with some NOS seersuckers shirts at a really decent price. I've got two from him and they are really comfy on the bike. Check it out here if you're interested. http://www.ebay.com/itm/161743660652?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649var=460720180194ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Beth in PDX, where it's 97F at 5pm Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] sf-la ride report, gear review
Great photos! Thanks for putting them up as well as the mini-reviews! On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 10:43 PM, drew drewbeckme...@gmail.com wrote: first off, thanks for all the suggestions in the planning post for this trip. it was great and brutal and fun and all that stuff. i learned, despite my desires, that i don't really stop and take pictures AND moreso, when i do, they are not that good. so, i gained a new appreciation for everyone who does post amazing pictures here. extra respect if you're carrying around a real camera. i brought mine, but didnt get it out once. the only reason i even put these on flickr is to encourage myself to start backing up photos in some way. pictures of proof HERE anyway, a lot of you have done this ride already, so i thought i'd make this more of a gear review of things i hemmed and hawed about. things that dont have a ton of information and reviews out there. first and foremost, the hunqapillar was a worthy and loyal companion. i feel closer to it now than ever before. right before leaving i put on a sprung brooks, which resulted in pretty much zero butt pain, marathon supremes which were flatless and cushy enough, and a medium saddlesack which was able to fit 95% of the camping gear. left hand went numb about halfway through and i wish i had brought some gloves. other than that, smooth sailing. ok: nemo gogo bivy tent thing- loved it. its bigger than a bivy and slightly smaller than a tent. the arch is inflatable with no poles, making take down/pack down sooo easy and fast. it packs into a small compression sack really easy. i can see hot weather+warm body=condensation, but i got zero in 60-75 temps. the inflatable part is really robust and it has a patch kit just in case. highly recommended for fast and light travel. goal zero solar panel- just got the panel w/o battery. in retrospect, because of my weird/dropped/got-wet-too-many-times phone that has a hard time consistently charging, the battery wouldve been a good addition. also really liked this set up. clipped it to the front or rear and left devices in the little pouch and had power the entire trip. jandd mini mountain panniers- had these up front and they were rock solid. oddly, they were somewhat bigger than i needed, but they did the job with zero issues over lots of bouncy terrain woolpower socks- brought 3 pairs, wore only one the entire time. filthy but zero smells cheapish wool/poly blend boxers from core4element-previously had a bad run with all wool boxers that ripped after 2 rides. decided to try these that were a little thicker and had some polyester mixed in. results were definitely more durable. very comfortable, moisture wicking, breathable etc. they acquired butt stench fairly easily, though not as bad as synthetic. wool t shirts by nau-thin, breathable, comfortable, resisted BO. unfortunately, nearing the end, they had started to disintegratenot worth 30$ acorn tool roll- super smart design. carried it like a mini pannier bicycling the pacific coast- infuriatingly useless the majority of the time, yet a real life saver on occassion. there has got to be a better carry-along book/map/guide for this trip. stanley pot/cup-super cheap and small boiling pot with 2 nesting dbl wall cups. i took a cup out and used the extra space to store the extra alcohol for the stove. used this every day. great buy 15$$$ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Anyone riding PBP on a Riv this year?
Sounds like a wonderful Hilsen. Got any pics we could see? Eyes are drooling. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Friction Shifting Dyna-sys
Dynasys is only for mtb. Just to clarify. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTT: my M Moleskin MUSA for your S of same
Reckon it can't hurt to ask. Thanks, -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Suggestions please for a Bay Area mountain or mixed terrain ride Friday July 3 or Saturday July 4
As Justin pointed out, a few of us settled on meeting at the entrance gate to China Camp at 9am tomorrow. More the merrier! https://www.google.com/maps/place/China+Camp+Back+Ranch+Meadows+Campground+Entrance/@38.0081314,-122.4949563,15z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x:0xcfdcc7a2adb92f9a John On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 2:48:48 PM UTC-7, Christian wrote: Hi All, I am in Berkeley visiting family and would love to get a ride in. I'm looking for route suggestions for a good long ride and would prefer dirt. Driving over to Walnut Creek to ride Mt Diablo sounds appealing. I've never been so any ideas would be appreciated. I'd love to tag along on a group ride but solo is fine too. I'm gonna look into renting a bike today--Sports Basement has some pretty nice mountain bikes to demo. Thanks! Christian from Charlottesville -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] sf-la ride report, gear review
first off, thanks for all the suggestions in the planning post for this trip. it was great and brutal and fun and all that stuff. i learned, despite my desires, that i don't really stop and take pictures AND moreso, when i do, they are not that good. so, i gained a new appreciation for everyone who does post amazing pictures here. extra respect if you're carrying around a real camera. i brought mine, but didnt get it out once. the only reason i even put these on flickr is to encourage myself to start backing up photos in some way. pictures of proof HERE https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784882@N08/? anyway, a lot of you have done this ride already, so i thought i'd make this more of a gear review of things i hemmed and hawed about. things that dont have a ton of information and reviews out there. first and foremost, the hunqapillar was a worthy and loyal companion. i feel closer to it now than ever before. right before leaving i put on a sprung brooks, which resulted in pretty much zero butt pain, marathon supremes which were flatless and cushy enough, and a medium saddlesack which was able to fit 95% of the camping gear. left hand went numb about halfway through and i wish i had brought some gloves. other than that, smooth sailing. ok: *nemo gogo bivy tent thing*- loved it. its bigger than a bivy and slightly smaller than a tent. the arch is inflatable with no poles, making take down/pack down sooo easy and fast. it packs into a small compression sack really easy. i can see hot weather+warm body=condensation, but i got zero in 60-75 temps. the inflatable part is really robust and it has a patch kit just in case. highly recommended for fast and light travel. *goal zero solar panel-* just got the panel w/o battery. in retrospect, because of my weird/dropped/got-wet-too-many-times phone that has a hard time consistently charging, the battery wouldve been a good addition. also really liked this set up. clipped it to the front or rear and left devices in the little pouch and had power the entire trip. *jandd mini mountain panniers*- had these up front and they were rock solid. oddly, they were somewhat bigger than i needed, but they did the job with zero issues over lots of bouncy terrain *woolpower socks- *brought 3 pairs, wore only one the entire time. filthy but zero smells *cheapish wool/poly blend boxers from core4element-*previously had a bad run with all wool boxers that ripped after 2 rides. decided to try these that were a little thicker and had some polyester mixed in. results were definitely more durable. very comfortable, moisture wicking, breathable etc. they acquired butt stench fairly easily, though not as bad as synthetic. *wool t shirts by nau-*thin, breathable, comfortable, resisted BO. unfortunately, nearing the end, they had started to disintegratenot worth 30$ *acorn tool roll*- super smart design. carried it like a mini pannier *bicycling the pacific coast-* infuriatingly useless the majority of the time, yet a real life saver on occassion. there has got to be a better carry-along book/map/guide for this trip. *stanley pot/cup-*super cheap and small boiling pot with 2 nesting dbl wall cups. i took a cup out and used the extra space to store the extra alcohol for the stove. used this every day. great buy 15$$$ http://www.walmart.com/ip/Stanley-Adventure-Series-Camp-Cook-Set/16784406 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] I can't get the shifting dialed in
Another idea: 7. Replace shifter cable housings and make sure they run free with no tight bends along their trajectories. Are they run under bar tape? Try running them free like RBW does it for softer curves and less possibility of binding. Is a front rack bag sitting on top of the cables? Flip the cables under the rack platform to get the weight off them. 8. Is your cable/short housing run from chain stay to where it enters the RD curving too much or too little and causing binding? Also try replacing that length of cable if you think it's old and housing is degraded inside. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] I can't get the shifting dialed in
This is a 9speed drivetrain with Silver bar end shifters. My thoughts are: 1. Tighten up the D-rings in the bar end shifters. When they get loose, shifting stars jumping around. May need tightening twice a week or more. Beeswax works good on the Dribg bolt threads to keep them tight a long time. 2. Look under bottom bracket to be sure the shifter cables are running correctly in their channels and haven't popped out of place. 3. Check both derailers that they aren't bent or misaligned. 4. Check your Rear Derailer limit screws and adjust accordingly. 5. Try an 8-speed cassette and chain, assuming your derailer cages will allow the width of an 8-speed chain to pass through. You might get less auto shifting with the slightly wider spacing of the 8-speed cogs 6. Who built the bike? And are the crank/drivetrain components supposed to play well together? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: reduced prices! tweed bags, canvas bags...
Field Satchel gone. And then there were none. Thanks all! If anything goes awry with pending transactions I'll reactivate this thread. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Friction Shifting Dyna-sys
Hi All, Thought some of you would be interested that despite the fact that internet says you can’t mix shimano Dyna-sys rear derailers with anything but Dyna-sys shifters I am successfully running them with shimano ultegra 8 speed bar ends in friction mode. The shifting not only works it works amazingly well. The longer cable pull allows for finer trimming and a greater “sweet spot”. Shifting is crisp and direct which I think is the result of not having that floating pulley. I am running it with and 8 speed cassette, 8 speed chain, and a triple front. Hope this information is helpful. And yes, I can shift across the entire cassette. Thanks, Clayton Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Suggestions please for a Bay Area mountain or mixed terrain ride Friday July 3 or Saturday July 4
One more thing: a couple of years ago I hosted a Northern East Bay Mixed Terrain Ride, which linked together a lot of the stuff I was just describing. If you search the list archives you should be able to find my description of the route and could probably piece it together yourself. I'd come with you except that I no longer live in Berkeley...moved up to Sacramento a few months ago. On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 10:39:55 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Till wrote: Lots of great riding in them thar hills, but Peter is right, pretty much any ride in Berkeley is a fair bit of climbing. One of the most common routes to get up to Grizzly Peak/Skyline from Berkeley is Old Tunnel Rd, often just referred to as Tunnel, which climbs the hills above the Caldecott Tunnel. It's got some steeper pitches near the bottom and a sketchy bit where you have to cross fast moving on-ramp traffic, but once you get past that it's a pretty quiet road with a constant, doable grade and great views. Any bike shop guy will be able to tell you how to get there. From the top of Tunnel, it's a short jaunt along south along Skyline to Redwood or Joaquin Miller parks. Or, go north on Grizzly Peak Boulevard to Tilden--the interesection basically marks the top of the climb. Note that once you get into the area north of the Grizzly Peak/Claremont/Fish Ranch intersection, everything on the west side of the road is owned by UC Berkeley and is technically off limits to bikes, whereas everything on the east side of the road is Tilden Park, where bicycles are allowed on all of the fire roads and some of the singletrack--check out the signs. On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 1:46:41 AM UTC-7, Peter Adler wrote: Sports Basement opened a store near downtown Berkeley a few months ago, but I'm not sure whether they rent bikes. If they do, it's a lot closer than going out to Walnut Creek. General warning: Unless you're a regular climber, the slope up to Grizzly Peak or Skyline (the roads near the ridge of the Berkeley Hills) is pretty ferocious. It's part of the classic East Bay roadie route called Three Bears, which crosses the hills and does a big loop on bear-named roads between the hills and Walnut creek before heading back across the ridge to Berkeley. You might want to drive up to the ridge to start. Peter Berkeley lifer Adler Berkeley, CA/USA On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 9:14:57 PM UTC-7, Christian wrote: Thanks Ryan and Justin. I think staying nearby will be easiest plus almost no driving. I think I'm gonna rent an Ibis from Sports Basement and go to Joaquin Miller and Redwood and maybe Wildcat. Sorry for the detour from Riv content but I thought this might be a good place to get some good local intel. Christian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Cheviot compared to Sam Hillborne?
Daniel, great question. Based on my own observations and research, it seems the Cheviot and Sam would perform equally well for your application. I don't recall seeing a drop bar Cheviot yet, so if going fastish means aerodynamics and drop bars for you, maybe that says something. Since I have a strong interest in the Cheviot myself, I'm looking forward to other responses on this. Chris Johnson Sanger, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Cheviot compared to Sam Hillborne?
Just built up my 60cm cheviut yesterday. Love it. Still in honeymoon phase, but the way it corners on dirt is amazing. Rock 'n road here too with lots of clearance left. The geometry (especially chainstay length) changes quite a bit from one size to the next. Give Keven at Riv HQ a call he will be able to explain a lot. On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 10:47:31 AM UTC-7, Pondero wrote: Daniel, great question. Based on my own observations and research, it seems the Cheviot and Sam would perform equally well for your application. I don't recall seeing a drop bar Cheviot yet, so if going fastish means aerodynamics and drop bars for you, maybe that says something. Since I have a strong interest in the Cheviot myself, I'm looking forward to other responses on this. Chris Johnson Sanger, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] my first Riv in the wild sighting
Yesterday I was biking over to our community garden and saw a Riv-in-the-wild. My first. It was a Sam. I was on an Atlantis. I stopped. We chatted. Gotta say... even though Riv's site pictures are really good, the Sam, up close and personal, is a truly beautiful, impressive, bike. There are a lot of Surly's here (Madison, WI). A lot of Giants, Novarras, etc... It's not the same. Will -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Cheviot compared to Sam Hillborne?
Getting the 51 built up on the web specials. Great bike, quicker than it looks. I'm sure the cheviot is just as good, I plan to get chev or clem down the road. On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 12:23:25 PM UTC-4, Daniel D. wrote: I was considering the 51cm Sam, especially the Web special. But you snooze you lose. How does the Cheviot compare? I wanted a Sam to replace a typical aluminum 105 equipped road bike, for fun rides short and long carrying at most light loads, going fastish. The role between my errand beater bike and loaded touring bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Suggestions please for a Bay Area mountain or mixed terrain ride Friday July 3 or Saturday July 4
Lots of great riding in them thar hills, but Peter is right, pretty much any ride in Berkeley is a fair bit of climbing. One of the most common routes to get up to Grizzly Peak/Skyline from Berkeley is Old Tunnel Rd, often just referred to as Tunnel, which climbs the hills above the Caldecott Tunnel. It's got some steeper pitches near the bottom and a sketchy bit where you have to cross fast moving on-ramp traffic, but once you get past that it's a pretty quiet road with a constant, doable grade and great views. Any bike shop guy will be able to tell you how to get there. From the top of Tunnel, it's a short jaunt along south along Skyline to Redwood or Joaquin Miller parks. Or, go north on Grizzly Peak Boulevard to Tilden--the interesection basically marks the top of the climb. Note that once you get into the area north of the Grizzly Peak/Claremont/Fish Ranch intersection, everything on the west side of the road is owned by UC Berkeley and is technically off limits to bikes, whereas everything on the east side of the road is Tilden Park, where bicycles are allowed on all of the fire roads and some of the singletrack--check out the signs. On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 1:46:41 AM UTC-7, Peter Adler wrote: Sports Basement opened a store near downtown Berkeley a few months ago, but I'm not sure whether they rent bikes. If they do, it's a lot closer than going out to Walnut Creek. General warning: Unless you're a regular climber, the slope up to Grizzly Peak or Skyline (the roads near the ridge of the Berkeley Hills) is pretty ferocious. It's part of the classic East Bay roadie route called Three Bears, which crosses the hills and does a big loop on bear-named roads between the hills and Walnut creek before heading back across the ridge to Berkeley. You might want to drive up to the ridge to start. Peter Berkeley lifer Adler Berkeley, CA/USA On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 9:14:57 PM UTC-7, Christian wrote: Thanks Ryan and Justin. I think staying nearby will be easiest plus almost no driving. I think I'm gonna rent an Ibis from Sports Basement and go to Joaquin Miller and Redwood and maybe Wildcat. Sorry for the detour from Riv content but I thought this might be a good place to get some good local intel. Christian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Paul Racers, Paul brake levers, TRP Levers, Various Nitto stems and handlebars!
Hey there group! After a coupla years of handlebar swapping and brake experimentation, I've arrived at my own personal bike-nirvana with a one-off canti-homer, Soma Portola dirt drop bars, dirt drop stem, and Shimergo (Campy 10 speed shifting Shimano 8 speed.. ) Weird, I know :) That brings me to clear out some bars, stems, brakes, brake levers, and accessories I've accumulated. Photos https://www.flickr.com/photos/122008974@N05/sets/72157654941017669/with/19349705422/ Here they are: Nitto RM-013 52cm Dirt Drop Bars 26.0 clamp, Heat Treated, almost completely new - $85 shipped CONUS Nitto M177 46cm Noddle Bars, Heat Treated, 26.0 missing sticker, scratches, decent cond. - $55 shipped CONUS Mitto RM-017 Albastache Bars - heat treated 26.0 clamp, have tape gunk and some scratches - $55 shipped CONUS Nitto Albatross bars CroMo 25.4 clamp. Used, OK cond. - $45 shipped Nitto Tech Deluxe 80 26.0 stem - used, fine condition - $45 shipped Nitto Technomic Deluxe 120 25.4 stem - used, fine condition - $45 shipped Nitto Tallux 80 26.0 stem used, fine condition - $45 shipped Dia-Compe grip knobs, gum hoods, great condition - $30 shipped TRP gum hood, drillium levers, beausage on hoods - $40 shipped Paul Racer centerpull brakes, anodized silver, used, good condition. $175 shipped Paul Moon Units anodized silver, used OK condition. $20 with Paul brakes, $30 otherwise Paul Canti-levers short pull brake levers. For 22.2 bars, like Albatross. $80 shipped. Silver headset hanger and Nitto rear wire brake hanger $15 with brakes. I'll make a combo deal on the brakes - Paul Levers, moon unit straddles, hangers, and racer brakes for $250 shipped. I'll take Paypal if you cover fees, and I'll have this stuff for sale until Tuesday evening, July 7th, and I'll ship everything that sells on Wednesday July 8th. Reply off-list, and we'll make arrangements for payment and shipping. I'll update the post when things are sold. Thanks everyone!! Avery -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Racers, Paul brake levers, TRP Levers, Various Nitto stems and handlebars!
Deal pending on albatross, albastachs, 12cm stem, 8cm Tallux, and whole Paul brake set-up. I'll update accordingly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Cheviot compared to Sam Hillborne?
I was considering the 51cm Sam, especially the Web special. But you snooze you lose. How does the Cheviot compare? I wanted a Sam to replace a typical aluminum 105 equipped road bike, for fun rides short and long carrying at most light loads, going fastish. The role between my errand beater bike and loaded touring bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Cheviot compared to Sam Hillborne?
I've owned both and I LOVE MY Cheviot. Love the step through. I have 43mm Rock and Roads- I can go anywhere! I commute to work (street) and ride trails on the same tires. Have a Marks rack in front with a basket and a Carradice with a Pletcher on back. Set up for S24O- and just go! Haul groceries-YES! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Cheviot compared to Sam Hillborne?
Hi Daniel, between my partner and I, we have a 60cm cheviot/58 QB and a long 46 Appaloosa custom/50 saluki combos so maybe of some help. All but the QB have Boscos, which has old style mustaches. The long bikes in general: stable in the extreme and designed for upright riding. Gotta dial in handlebars and seat position as always. Fantastic load-haulers and fun ambling Cheviot specifically: step-through means you don't have to swing yer leg over top and you can take a bigger frame. Not bad the older you get, either! Compared to Sam-like bikes, the QB and the saluki feel lighter and quicker handling. The saluki can take loads but not like the cheviot or custom. Hope this provides a little comparable info for your thinking. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: wtb: Rivendell Atlantis - 58cm
Bump! Still looking... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Cheviot compared to Sam Hillborne?
A few thoughts on the Sam side: I couldn't decide b/w the two so I went a 55cm Cheviot and decided to sell it and buy a 51cm Sam web special, happy with that decision. I like the diamond frame more, I have a few tight spaces and stairs I need to haul the bike over and around and like having the top tube to grab. And feel the Sam is a little faster and much better climber if you have hills, maybe its due to the smaller frame size. I also like Albastache bars better than Albastross and feel that the Albastache's are more at home on a Sam. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Friction Shifting Dyna-sys
On 07/02/2015 12:58 PM, Clayton.sf wrote: Thought some of you would be interested that despite the fact that internet says you can’t mix shimano Dyna-sys rear derailers with anything but Dyna-sys shifters I am successfully running them with shimano ultegra 8 speed bar ends in friction mode Actually, the internet says you can't /index shift/ Dyna-sys rear mechs with anything but Dyna-sys shifters, because the Dyna-sys rear mech's cable pull requirement is different from the road derailleurs, and the indexed bar end shifters and road STI brifters pull matches road and non-Dyna-sys rear derailleurs. When you're friction shifting, it isn't the placement of detents that determines when you've shifted enough, it's operator wetware that does the job. So as long as the friction shifter pulls enough cable to get the rear derailleur to travel through its full range and as long as operator wetware is sufficiently sensitive to detect when you've moved the rear mech enough to accurately complete the shift, you're good to go. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Rambouillet vs. Bleriot: your take on it.
1. If you have owned both, what are the diffs in ride quality? 2. How does the 700c or 26 wheels make it feel different than the 650b Bleriot? 3. Front loads. Do they both carry them well? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Altus rear derailer = upgrade from DeerHead
The true essence of foppishness is self-awareness and excessively deliberate fine-tuning of one's appearance. Somebody who turns the tiniest detail of one's bicycle into an event worthy of showing-off is a bicycle fop. So, me showing off a cheap derailer is the utter definition of foppishness. Hey, look at me! I'm using a cheap derailer and it works great! On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 7:42:00 AM UTC-7, Montclair BobbyB wrote: ... but can one truly embrace Altus without sacrificing one's foppishness? I'm scared, Bill... need affirmation... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Community
This really is a great bunch of folks. It's a very homely space. Truly, this community is special and I treasure these relationships. with love, Riv Chica Warrior -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet vs. Bleriot: your take on it.
On 07/02/2015 03:33 PM, Lungimsam wrote: 1. If you have owned both, what are the diffs in ride quality? I owned a Rambouillet and a Saluki, Bleriot's older and fancier twin. They both have a characteristic, identifieable this is a Rivendell ride; however since the Saluki can fit 42mm Hetres (I did, and I believe Tony, the current owner does too) there's that typical, wonderful every road is a smooth road silkiness to the ride of the Saluki that the Rambouillet, limited as it is to 28 mm tires (with fenders) can't begin to come close to. Also: the Saluki is a great bike on gravel roads, as long as the grade doesn't get up into the teens and beyond. There's a lot of wheel flop, and climbing a 14% grade on gravel in a 22 gear it's hard to maintain directional stability. With 28mm tires the Rambouillet for me was entirely unsuitable for gravel, full stop. 2. How does the 700c or 26 wheels make it feel different than the 650b Bleriot? See above re: ride. But note, the geometry of the Rambouillet and the Saluki are very different. 73 degree head angle with the Rambouillet vs 71 degree with the Saluki. That will have as much of an effect as the difference in tire size. 3. Front loads. Do they both carry them well? I never carried a load on the front of the Rambouillet. The Saluki had fittings for a rack, and I had a Berthoud rack on mine (yes, /that/ one). Because the (largest size Berthoud) bag was supported on a rack low down, it handled loads fairly well, with just one exception. Comparing the Saluki to the MAP Randonneur that replaced it, with the same weight of load when straightening up from a turn with the Saluki it felt as though I was lifting the load with the handlebars. With the MAP you really don't feel the load at all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: PSA: Riv Frames on ebay
Did someone here get the A/R? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Mark's/M18 failures?
I was told by RBW that using the 4 strut method brings the rating up to about 6lbs, only, and put an irish strap on it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Cheviot compared to Sam Hillborne?
Thanks for the thoughts, everyone. Googling I could find Sams set up/used in a way I would prefer. But cheviot builds seemed to lean more towards errand or light touring bikes. The more I think about it guess I'll either get a san marcos, wait until the sams are back(big plus, I can save instead of doing a sell off), or go used. I could go test ride a cheviot. But doubt I'd learn anything. Any new bike feels exciting and it takes me a few hundred miles before I notice things :p. On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 9:23:25 AM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote: I was considering the 51cm Sam, especially the Web special. But you snooze you lose. How does the Cheviot compare? I wanted a Sam to replace a typical aluminum 105 equipped road bike, for fun rides short and long carrying at most light loads, going fastish. The role between my errand beater bike and loaded touring bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Bleriot: your take on it.
I owned both the Romulus https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/2134565361/in/album-72157603538257284/ (which is a twin to the Ramouillet) and the Bleriot https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/5396238348/in/album-72157625675713501/. I looked through my pictures and they represented two slightly different phases of my bike preferences. I was transitioning away from racing bikes and the Romulus was my first foray into into functional steel bikes, and it was an open-wheeled club rider relatively un-enhanced by luggages and fenders. I got the Bleriot after I started riding brevets and it was racked, bagged and fendered from day 1. However, I find the handling, especially on descents to be pretty similar between the two. I don't know if tubing specs are similar. Bleriot could take fatter tires (I rode with 41mm fatty rumpkins) and that might have a hand in how I felt on the bike versus the Romulus. On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 12:33:20 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote: 1. If you have owned both, what are the diffs in ride quality? 2. How does the 700c or 26 wheels make it feel different than the 650b Bleriot? 3. Front loads. Do they both carry them well? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Bleriot: your take on it.
I too own both a Ram a Saluki. They are both great bikes. The Ram is quicker and faster; the Saluki is just a bit less responsive and a bit more comfortable. I run the Ram with fenders, a front rack bag, White VBC compact double, and 29 mm Grand Bois Cerf tires. I run the Saluki with fenders, front rack bag, barley saddle bag, DaVinci triple crank and Pari-Moto tires. Whenever I plan to ride decent paved roads I will always take the Ram; whenever I plan on lots of liesurly dirt roads, I take the Saluki. When my plans change it doesn't matter because the Ram does fine on dirt the Saluki does fine on pavement. When I'm in the barn I'm careful what I say, not wanting to stir up bike resentment; but out of earshot, I think my converted Trek 620 with Pari Motos, does everything the Ram or Saluki can do, except keep me dry in the rain. No dang fenders. Michael On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 3:33:20 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: 1. If you have owned both, what are the diffs in ride quality? 2. How does the 700c or 26 wheels make it feel different than the 650b Bleriot? 3. Front loads. Do they both carry them well? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Mark's/M18 failures?
Yes, the title could have been more clear. Sorry about that. Specifically I meant to ask if the sliding tang is a design safety vulnerability. I really want to get a canti brake bike for my next bike to avoid this and have a rigid, non-adjustable strutted rack to avoid any rotate-able bolt-on stuff for this reason, also better fender and brake clearance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Friction Shifting Dyna-sys
Here a source: http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/friction-shifting-a-dynasys-rear-mech Just search and you will find more -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Friction Shifting Dyna-sys
I read all the replies there . and it's based only on mathematical theory , no one actually testes it real world with any friction shifters. While I myself find shifting perfect on standard derailers with it's 2:1 cable ratio , the friction shifters I use, Sun Tour thumbies , have very a generous range . As with all things derailers and shifters . . . . there's spec, which is limited to the paper it is written on , and there's the real world application of it to which limits can and do vary . Sometimes night and day differences ! On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 5:23:09 PM UTC-4, Clayton.sf wrote: Here a source: http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/friction-shifting-a-dynasys-rear-mech Just search and you will find more -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Cheviot compared to Sam Hillborne?
are all the sams gone now? good for them. i have a sam that fits in the line up as exactly what you're talking about. loaded bike is covered, beater is covered. the sam is just a perfectly capable all arounder that is really fun to ride on the road or dirt. mine is set up minimally, but i like knowing that i could load it up if necessary. im sure the cheviot is equally lovely and capable though. lots of deals arise if youre willing to go used. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Friction Shifting Dyna-sys
I was really surprised myself which is why I am posting it here. Have had several mechanics tell me it won't work too. On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 2:34:46 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote: I read all the replies there . and it's based only on mathematical theory , no one actually tested it real world with any friction shifters. While I myself find shifting perfect on standard derailers with it's 2:1 cable ratio , the friction shifters I use, Sun Tour thumbies , have very a generous range . As with all things derailers and shifters . . . . there's spec, which is limited to the paper it is written on , and there's the real world application of it to which limits can and do vary . Sometimes night and day differences ! And results will vary from bike to bike . On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 5:23:09 PM UTC-4, Clayton.sf wrote: Here a source: http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/friction-shifting-a-dynasys-rear-mech Just search and you will find more -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Friction Shifting Dyna-sys
On 07/02/2015 05:34 PM, Garth wrote: I read all the replies there . and it's based only on mathematical theory , no one actually tested it real world with any friction shifters. Except Clayton! And for him, it works. I do seem to remember reading that someone proved mathematically that a bumblebee could not fly... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Cheviot compared to Sam Hillborne?
Wait for what Sams to get back in? When I go to www.rivbike.com and click on the Sam page, it says All sizes in stock. I'd recommend buying a Sam right away. I really like those swank black ones. On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 12:45:54 PM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote: Thanks for the thoughts, everyone. Googling I could find Sams set up/used in a way I would prefer. But cheviot builds seemed to lean more towards errand or light touring bikes. The more I think about it guess I'll either get a san marcos, wait until the sams are back(big plus, I can save instead of doing a sell off), or go used. I could go test ride a cheviot. But doubt I'd learn anything. Any new bike feels exciting and it takes me a few hundred miles before I notice things :p. On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 9:23:25 AM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote: I was considering the 51cm Sam, especially the Web special. But you snooze you lose. How does the Cheviot compare? I wanted a Sam to replace a typical aluminum 105 equipped road bike, for fun rides short and long carrying at most light loads, going fastish. The role between my errand beater bike and loaded touring bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Friction Shifting Dyna-sys
To quote sheldon: - Shimano Dyna-Sys 10-speed shifters and derailers use a longer cable pull than other Shimano models, and must be used together. And from Riv: FLASH! SRAM's 9, 10, 11sp mountain, Sram 10 and 11sp road; Shimano mountain 10sp dynasys, Shimano 11sp road (Shimano 10sp Road will sorta work but it's hard to dial in the right gear since the cogs are so close); Campy 10/11sp rear derailers don't seem to work with this shifter. the Riv thing refers to their silver shifter, but they actuall do work as well - at least for me ;-). On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 2:46:26 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 07/02/2015 05:38 PM, Clayton.sf wrote: I was really surprised myself which is why I am posting it here. Have had several mechanics tell me it won't work too. And there were a bunch of mechanics who said it was impossible to use one of those 11-36 cassettes on a road bike, too. And it was, right up until surprise, it wasn't. I have a bunch of friends who have them. (Of course, you do have to use the right rear derailleur, but it works just fine.) Actually, some years ago now, I had a shop owner tell me it would be professionally irresponsible for a bike shop to consider installing a wide range MTB cassette (back then, I think 12-32 or possibly 11-34) on a road bike, that it would be the equivalent of malpractice, and that he would fire any employee of his who even entertained the notion. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Mark's/M18 failures?
I really want to get a canti brake bike for my next bike to avoid this and have a rigid, non-adjustable strutted rack to avoid any rotate-able bolt-on stuff for this reason, also better fender and brake clearance. If you are thinking custom, you should also consider braze on centerpulls for the sane reasons. Especially now with Compass joining Paul on the high end. On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 3:20:25 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote: Yes, the title could have been more clear. Sorry about that. Specifically I meant to ask if the sliding tang is a design safety vulnerability. I really want to get a canti brake bike for my next bike to avoid this and have a rigid, non-adjustable strutted rack to avoid any rotate-able bolt-on stuff for this reason, also better fender and brake clearance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Friction Shifting Dyna-sys
Another nice thing is that it opens up clutch detailer to friction shifting. Very nice for trail riding -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Friction Shifting Dyna-sys
This is an interesting discovery. I agree that clutch derailers are nice to reduce chain slap. I'll have to give it a try next time I pick up a 10s Shimano MTB RD. My attempt will be friction shifting 9 speeds with a 9 speed bar-end. Tim On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Clayton.sf clayton...@gmail.com wrote: Another nice thing is that it opens up clutch detailer to friction shifting. Very nice for trail riding -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Friction Shifting Dyna-sys
I read all the replies there . and it's based only on mathematical theory , no one actually testes it real world with any friction shifters. While I myself find shifting perfect on standard derailers with it's 2:1 cable ratio , the friction shifters I use, Sun Tour thumbies , have very a generous range . As with all things derailers and shifters . . . . there's spec, which is limited to the paper it is written on , and there's the real world application of it to which limits can and do vary . Sometimes night and day differences ! On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 5:23:09 PM UTC-4, Clayton.sf wrote: Here a source: http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/friction-shifting-a-dynasys-rear-mech Just search and you will find more -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Friction Shifting Dyna-sys
I read all the replies there . and it's based only on mathematical theory , no one actually tested it real world with any friction shifters. While I myself find shifting perfect on standard derailers with it's 2:1 cable ratio , the friction shifters I use, Sun Tour thumbies , have very a generous range . As with all things derailers and shifters . . . . there's spec, which is limited to the paper it is written on , and there's the real world application of it to which limits can and do vary . Sometimes night and day differences ! And results will vary from bike to bike . On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 5:23:09 PM UTC-4, Clayton.sf wrote: Here a source: http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/friction-shifting-a-dynasys-rear-mech Just search and you will find more -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
