[RBW] double diagatube and a half

2015-07-23 Thread cbone97


Had to share this local C'list offering. Wonder if they ever made it in a 
56cm? 
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ln-aS8ng28g/VbF7wY4X0NI/Kac/I0k1GePWwu4/s1600/catinthehatbike.jpg

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[RBW] Half a diagatube, because a full diagatube is too good for kids

2015-07-23 Thread cbone97


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-C9BeLx298dg/VbF9WGsITeI/Kao/Jqg9N-pVZzk/s1600/catinthehatbike.jpg
Had to share this local C'list offering. I want to buy it just to have the 
other half 'a tube(s?) welded in.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Simple1

2015-07-23 Thread Minh
I click on Justin's link everytime i pushes it up, i don't know how it 
stays unsold.  if i didn't have a QB downstairs i would be all over this 
(more-so now that i know how great these Riv single-speeds are).  this is 
easily my favorite bike (yes over the Hillborne).  

if i was local i prolly would've bought this by now, space be damn!  

Justin, good luck with the sale, i have no idea why this remains  unsold. 
 guys if you're into rivs and never tried a QB or S1, you really need to!

On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 1:06:20 PM UTC-4, Justin August wrote:

 Giving this a bump after sitting on it for two weeks.

 58cm SimpleOne.

- Tange headset
- Wheel set is velocity unbranded track hubs to SunCR18 rims with Soma 
C-Line terracota tires.
- Surly dingle 17/21
- Freewheel 17t
- 9 speed chain
- There are pics of the frame here 
https://flickr.com/photos/86714991@N00/sets/72157646060803134
- Goo has been removed.

 All that for $700 + real shipping (I’ll ship first via BikeFlights or a 
 local shop, then invoice you for cost)

 Other stuff. Will be giving first priority to whomever buys the 
 frame/fork/headset/wheelset)

- SOMA Layback Post 27.2, BLACK - $15
- SOMA Sutra stem 100mm, BLACK $25
- Jitensha Bars $25 (Discovered a gauge in the aluminum near-ish the 
stem. Should be fine, caveat emptor)
- Nitto x Fair-weather 42cm (similar to Noodle but shallower drop) $40
- Shimano Brake Levers $20
- SRAM brake levers, BLACK alloy levers $30

 Drop me a line and convince me of a deal! I am easily swayed by money.
 Pickup in Oakland, delivery possible if within a decent distance - meaning 
 down to Santa Cruz, up to Santa Rosa? Over to halfway between here and 
 Sacramento?

 -Justin


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[RBW] Re: Bike, Book, and Hatcheting

2015-07-23 Thread John Philip
Here's my first three. All worked from spalted maple from the woodpile in 
the winter.  https://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/sets/72157655860514618 
On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 6:37:05 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote:

 I know that there are Hatcheters on this list serve because some of you 
 reply to me off-list.  I wonder if folks fear that they will be called out 
 for being off-topic?  Be bold, oh League of Riv Hatcheters!  It's not 
 anymore off-topic for Rivsters than aeropress coffee makers or paleo diets.

 Just to keep the little thread on life support...from the way back 
 machine, here's one of all-time my favorite cyclofiend finds.  You've 
 heard of Rivendell's Country Bike Movement? Well, I think I've taken it a 
 step further, having fun Walter Mitty'ing it into a Pioneer Trekking Bike 
 in preparation of a fanciful petroleum apocalypse -- 'Leading a rag-tag 
 band of survivors across the desolate North American continent on his 
 trusty Bridgestone RB-T' 

 http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2006/cc074-iankersey0106.html


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[RBW] Re: Didn't see that coming... Segmented Cast Fork Crown on BLUG

2015-07-23 Thread R. Alexis
I am liking the looks of this segmented look fork crown. This reminds me of 
when Rivendell first started and was offering the Road, Allrounder and 
Mountain that were all built by Waterford with numerous options. Riv 
initially was supposed to offer purposely, proprietary lugset for the 
Rivendell Mountain with a fork crown design from Mar Mueller. There was not 
enough demand for the Mountain that they ended up using the Allrounder 
lugset to build the Mountain. I was always curious what the Mountain lugs 
and fork crown looked like. 

Thanks,

Reginald Rivendell Mountain owner Alexis   

On Tuesday, July 7, 2015 at 6:23:29 PM UTC-5, Dan wrote:

 that is a really cool crown.  And, I've never wanted a cycling cap before 
 but that brown Clem cap is pretty cool.  Still too small for my huge noggin 
 tho I'm sure.

 Dan
 So. Wis.

 On Tuesday, July 7, 2015 at 5:52:18 PM UTC-5, EGNolan wrote:

 When they teased a while back, I had no idea what part it would be, but 
 didn't dream of this beauty... http://rivbike.tumblr.com



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[RBW] Re: Headset stiffness, only in middle

2015-07-23 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
I just had the same issue on my Hilsen. The guys at Riv recommended rotating 
the bearings like Patrick suggested (as did Bill Lindsay when I asked about 
it). Once the mechanic at the LBS got it apart the bearings were shot. I 
replaced the headset with a Tange on Tuesday. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Simple1

2015-07-23 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
+1.  My Quickbeam is still my favorite among all the various Rivs I've owned. 
Such a great bike.



On Jul 23, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Minh 
mgiangs...@gmail.commailto:mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:

I click on Justin's link everytime i pushes it up, i don't know how it stays 
unsold.  if i didn't have a QB downstairs i would be all over this (more-so now 
that i know how great these Riv single-speeds are).  this is easily my favorite 
bike (yes over the Hillborne).

if i was local i prolly would've bought this by now, space be damn!

Justin, good luck with the sale, i have no idea why this remains  unsold.  guys 
if you're into rivs and never tried a QB or S1, you really need to!

On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 1:06:20 PM UTC-4, Justin August wrote:
Giving this a bump after sitting on it for two weeks.

58cm SimpleOne.

  *   Tange headset
  *   Wheel set is velocity unbranded track hubs to SunCR18 rims with Soma 
C-Line terracota tires.
  *   Surly dingle 17/21
  *   Freewheel 17t
  *   9 speed chain
  *   There are pics of the frame here 
https://flickr.com/photos/86714991@N00/sets/72157646060803134
  *   Goo has been removed.

All that for $700 + real shipping (I’ll ship first via BikeFlights or a local 
shop, then invoice you for cost)

Other stuff. Will be giving first priority to whomever buys the 
frame/fork/headset/wheelset)

  *   SOMA Layback Post 27.2, BLACK - $15
  *   SOMA Sutra stem 100mm, BLACK $25
  *   Jitensha Bars $25 (Discovered a gauge in the aluminum near-ish the stem. 
Should be fine, caveat emptor)
  *   Nitto x Fair-weather 42cm (similar to Noodle but shallower drop) $40
  *   Shimano Brake Levers $20
  *   SRAM brake levers, BLACK alloy levers $30

Drop me a line and convince me of a deal! I am easily swayed by money.
Pickup in Oakland, delivery possible if within a decent distance - meaning down 
to Santa Cruz, up to Santa Rosa? Over to halfway between here and Sacramento?

-Justin

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[RBW] Re: Dirt Drop stem with Atlantis?

2015-07-23 Thread cbone97
I had a DD w/ some Nitto Rando drop bars on a Sam and loved it.  Only time 
I've been comfy on drops.  Go for it.

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[RBW] Stopped by Harris Cyclery, saw black/cream

2015-07-23 Thread Mark Wilkins
We're on our way up to Maine, so I had to stop by Harris and replace my 11yo 
t-shirt. Unfortunately, they were out of my size. 

I did get to see a built-up black/cream 2TT Sam, however, which WAS in my size. 

Beautiful. 

Sent from my iPhone

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[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm Sam Hillborne frame/fork (double top tube) + Extras

2015-07-23 Thread Michael Ullmer
I'm interested in the frame, PM sent. Thanks!

Mike

On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 9:21:53 AM UTC-7, Shelby M wrote:


 Ladies and Gents: for sale is my Sam Hillborne. It is in no way for sale 
 because I don't love it, but because I am saving up for a Hunqapillar. This 
 bike is very smooth riding with well planned out geometry and fork rake. 
 The sale includes the frame, fork, headset and Tektro R559 long reach 
 brakes with salmon pads. Frame and fork is in very good condition excluding 
 a vey small ding on the lower top tube made from a fall on dirt in 
 which the bar end shifter made contact. It is visually invisible. 
 Looking for $775 + shipping ($35-40) o.b.o. I will only ship within the 
 United States. 
 Please view attached photos and email or respond with and unanswered 
 questions regarding the frame  fork. 

 Shelby 
 sshe...@yahoo.com javascript: 


 Additional images can be found here: 
 https://flic.kr/p/vUrd3J 
 https://flic.kr/p/wbppaU 
 https://flic.kr/p/wctC5M 
 https://flic.kr/p/w9JEc5

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[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm Sam Hillborne frame/fork (double top tube) + Extras

2015-07-23 Thread Zach Duval
When were the blue Sam's sold without the cream head tube?

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[RBW] Re: Bike, Book, and Hatcheting

2015-07-23 Thread Deacon Patrick
I tried carving bowls and spoons and both are smarter than my brain. Or my 
brain uses too much of my uber limited brain energy to do it. So my 
hatcheting is limited to firewood and burning my labor now. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Thinking out loud. Possibly maybe thinking of selling my Clem frame presale.

2015-07-23 Thread David Banzer
Thinking out loud, perhaps prematurely. 
Picked up a certain tall vintage mtb frame from a certain Wisconsin company 
that may just duplicate my forthcoming Clem and would use 26 wheels and fit 
Rat Trap Pass tires  fenders. 

Putting out an early feeler then: anyone possibly interested in a 59cm gray 
Clem frameset? These are only offered as completes now. 

Or someone sway me towards keeping a Clem in addition to my recent mtb 
acquisition. 
The mention of a new tour-ish frame is much more appealing to me as well. 

Again, just thinking out loud. 
David
Chicago 

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[RBW] Re: Bike, Book, and Hatcheting

2015-07-23 Thread Deacon Patrick
Amazing spoons, Liesl and John! Very impressive! (sorry for the extra post, 
I forgot to lead with this!).

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Stopped by Harris Cyclery, saw black/cream

2015-07-23 Thread Zach Duval
All Sam's are beautiful. 

Zach still rationalizing his purchase of a slate blue Sam as black and cream 
came out.

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[RBW] Re: 1UpUSA Bike Rack and Rivs

2015-07-23 Thread Michael Hechmer
I still haven't figured out how to simply reverse Flicker but I think I 
have decoded Apple.  From the intuitive to the obscure.  In OS X.9, when 
you set up an album to share it prompted for a public site.  In OS X.10.3 
this doesn't happen.  Instead you must return to Photos, open the album, 
identify an 8 point picture of a head on your screen and click on it to get 
the public option.  No help at all from Help.  I guess it just another 
thing Apple wanted to keep secret.  Anyway if you still can't get Flicker 
to work, try this icloud link:

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B02GFssfGGIBYaP

Michael

On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 3:28:14 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 For some reason beyond my understanding Flicker has switched all 5000+ of 
 my photos to private!  I have been unable to find a master switch to undue 
 this.  I thought I had made the album of 10 photos public, but apparently 
 only one photo got switched.  I've gone back and redone it.  I apologize 
 for all the confusion and inconvenience.  Here's the link again.

 Michael

 On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 12:35:01 PM UTC-4, Edwin W wrote:

 I, too, can only see the picture of the rack on the car without the 
 bikes, but would like to see how you made it work. 

 On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 6:06:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Thanks to everyone who gave me feed back on how various bike racks 
 worked with Rivs, fenders, racks, and wide bars.  In the end we bought the 
 1UpUSA rack and offer this initial review

 Bottom line - Rack is an A, customer service is gentlemen's C.

 First the rack.  It is as solid and almost as easy to set up as they 
 claim.  Once learned it is pretty simple to live with and works well with 
 my large Saluki and Pat's Betty.  Pictures here:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388

 It was easy enough to get the rack onto the car, and adding or removing 
 the second carrier is literally a one minute job.  I initially ran into 
 trouble getting it set up to work with fenders on 650B tires and had enough 
 frustration to almost send it back.  After some experimenting however I got 
 it rock solid.

 The rack comes preconfigured to work with 700C tires, without fenders or 
 a rack.  I bought a pair of the fender adapters to add to the rear supports 
 but found two problems.  The rear carrier pinched, crushed actually, the 
 fender stays before getting tight to the fender and the front attachment 
 didn't quite get to the tire before hitting the fender.  I lowered both the 
 front and rear bars so that they would hit the wheels sooner.  (you can see 
 in the pictures how the tire stops have been lowered.  This worked well in 
 the front but continued to bend the rear fender stays.  I went ahead and 
 pushed the rear tight.  This held the fender very firmly but allowed the 
 wheel to move across the width of the two vertical wheel holders.  When I 
 released the carrier from the wheel I found that the stays immediately 
 bounced back into position.  You can see this clearly in one of the photos. 
  I decided to simply add toe straps around the rear wheels, which held them 
 firmly to one side.

 I took the rig out for a shakedown cruise which included 5 miles of dirt 
 road, 5 miles of bad chip and seal and 5 miles of smooth highway.  Pat 
 drove while I sat in the back seat and observed the bikes.  Given the 
 amount of weight cantilevered off the back of the car and the roughness of 
 the roads there was plenty of movement of the cars suspension but 
 absolutely none between the bike and carrier nor the carrier and the hitch.

 The second bike carrier can be removed very easily and the whole rig 
 then folds up out of the way, much better than any Tule, Yakima, or Saris 
 rack that I have seen.

 So A for easy on and off and A for solidness.  A for fitting two complex 
 bikes without any interference.

 Service.  Before ordering I sent two emails to the company seeking 
 clarification of their shipping policy.  I never got an answer.  As I was 
 working through the fender / rack / 650B set up, I called them.  I told the 
 nice lady at the other end of the line that I was having problems with the 
 set up, and before I send this back to you I would like to talk to someone 
 who can speak about these issues.  She promised that someone would call me 
 but no one ever has.

 C for customer service.

 Michael




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[RBW] Dirt Drop stem with Atlantis?

2015-07-23 Thread BenG
Glad you asked, as I am on the same quest with a 60cm Sam, now redundant in 
upright trim to a mystery bike. So many good responses!

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[RBW] Re: Question re Decal Removal

2015-07-23 Thread Jim S.
Benedikt, I'm not sure why mine is peeling. It could have been caused by 
me, as I have a stand, and I theorize that I might have unthinkingly 
clamped the bicycle on the decal, instead of on the seat post. Oh well.

It appears that the conventional wisdom is leave it alone - don't try to 
somehow scrape it off. I guess that's what I'll do.

On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 3:22:26 AM UTC-5, Benedikt wrote:

 The decal on my seat tube is cracking and peeling off as well. Been doing 
 that for a long time. Recently I noticed a little of the paint coming off 
 where the decal used to be. About two days later I realized what's causing 
 it. When I come home the bike comes indoors and gets hung up on the wall by 
 the rear wheel. Always the same way. And I always pick it up by the seat 
 tube with my left hand. It's the wedding ring. As I lift the bike and the 
 tube moves in my hand my wedding ring scratches right across that decal. I 
 don't know if this sort of thing is happening to you but could be.

 Brian P.

 On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 1:05:20 PM UTC-7, Jim S. wrote:

 Hello, 

 I was wondering if anyone has experience dealing with a damaged decal.

 The bike is an Atlantis. Not the end of the world, but the seat-tube 
 decal is cracked and bubbling off. Does anyone know of a method of removal 
 without otherwise damaging the paint? No decal would look better than a 
 bubbly one.

 Thanks for any expertise you might share.

 Jim S.



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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Simple1

2015-07-23 Thread Justin August
I'm open to offers as well!

On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 1:18:33 PM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:

  +1.  My Quickbeam is still my favorite among all the various Rivs I've 
 owned. Such a great bike. 


  
 On Jul 23, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Minh mgian...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

   I click on Justin's link everytime i pushes it up, i don't know how it 
 stays unsold.  if i didn't have a QB downstairs i would be all over this 
 (more-so now that i know how great these Riv single-speeds are).  this is 
 easily my favorite bike (yes over the Hillborne).   

  if i was local i prolly would've bought this by now, space be damn!  

  Justin, good luck with the sale, i have no idea why this remains 
  unsold.  guys if you're into rivs and never tried a QB or S1, you really 
 need to!

 On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 1:06:20 PM UTC-4, Justin August wrote: 

 Giving this a bump after sitting on it for two weeks. 
  
 58cm SimpleOne.
  
 - Tange headset
- Wheel set is velocity unbranded track hubs to SunCR18 rims with 
Soma C-Line terracota tires.
- Surly dingle 17/21
- Freewheel 17t
- 9 speed chain
 - There are pics of the frame here 
https://flickr.com/photos/86714991@N00/sets/72157646060803134
- Goo has been removed.

  All that for $700 + real shipping (I’ll ship first via BikeFlights or a 
 local shop, then invoice you for cost) 

 Other stuff. Will be giving first priority to whomever buys the 
 frame/fork/headset/wheelset)
  
- SOMA Layback Post 27.2, BLACK - $15
- SOMA Sutra stem 100mm, BLACK $25 
- Jitensha Bars $25 (Discovered a gauge in the aluminum near-ish the 
stem. Should be fine, caveat emptor)

  Nitto x Fair-weather 42cm (similar to Noodle but shallower drop) $40
 Shimano Brake Levers $20
 SRAM brake levers, BLACK alloy levers $30


 Drop me a line and convince me of a deal! I am easily swayed by money.
 Pickup in Oakland, delivery possible if within a decent distance - 
 meaning down to Santa Cruz, up to Santa Rosa? Over to halfway between here 
 and Sacramento?

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[RBW] WTB: Bullmoose Bars, 26 Wheelset

2015-07-23 Thread Justin August
Got a classic frame today that I need parts for.
Bullmoose bars! The modern ones I think.
26 Wheelset made for singletrack shredding!

Thanks!

-J

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dirt Drop stem with Atlantis?

2015-07-23 Thread Patrick Moore
I don't think that the DD stem looks bad at all; in fact I prefer the look
to huge exposures of quill. I wish others would make high quality, good
looking quill stems in a road style (ie, more svelte) with a similar rise.

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Mark Reimer marknrei...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh yeah, love this combo...


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7tJmKIoR1Sk/VbD3Vy2pUyI/LXA/KpmW2P7zk5w/s1600/17019948950_256b35aff2_k.jpg


 On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 4:16:11 PM UTC-5, mike goldman wrote:

 the riv versions only come in 2 lenghts 100 and 80...i have the 100
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dirt Drop stem with Atlantis?

2015-07-23 Thread Mark Reimer
Oh yeah, love this combo...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7tJmKIoR1Sk/VbD3Vy2pUyI/LXA/KpmW2P7zk5w/s1600/17019948950_256b35aff2_k.jpg


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 the riv versions only come in 2 lenghts 100 and 80...i have the 100 
  
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Re: [RBW] Dirt Drop stem with Atlantis?

2015-07-23 Thread Conway Bennett
I have a 10 cm DD and 46 noodles on my 56 Samuel Hillborne.  I have the stem 
raised about an inch, which puts the bars exiting the stem about an inch above 
the nose of my saddle.  I I was supposed to get an 8 cm stem, there was a 
mixup, but in retrospect the 10 is more aesthetically pleasing to me as the 8 
has this step below the extension while the 10 has no transition.  I ride with 
TRP levers, interrupters and silver bar ends and I still probably have 5 
different hand positions.  This is my favorite and most versatile setup.  If I 
didn't like the ergonomics of the TRPs so much I'd try Gevanelles and lose the 
bar ends which are level with my TT.

If this is Eric in Chicago, who I see at the Patagonia store in the winter, 
feel free to reach out to me to check it out.  I have an extra set of 46 cm 
noodles too.

FW,
CCB

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[RBW] Re: Dirt Drop stem with Atlantis?

2015-07-23 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch


 I run a Dirt Drop stem on my Atlantis. I have for many years. I recommend 
 it highly. Points: The obtuse angle is better on your liver, spleen and 
 bladder in a head on accident than the acute angle of a regular road stem 
 (ex paramedic fretting). I have some spinal issues, and the ability to 
 raise the bars high is the best thing I ever did for my lower back and 
 neck. S comfortable. The seat level bisects the middle of the bar 
 hooks, so I can use the drops at least fifty percent of the time, instead 
 of always being on the tops and hoods. I don't look at the road right in 
 front of my wheel as much...lol. Eric, I would recommend you get the 100, 
 not the 80 mm stem. The stem raises your bars up and BACK quite a bit. I 
 like a short top tube and so I tried the 80 and it was way too short. Of 
 course that is all dependent on frame size, height, physical issues and 
 yadda yadda...Best of luck getting comfy. 


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[RBW] WTB levers, tires and DT shifter and boss cover

2015-07-23 Thread Conway Bennett
Went to get it ready to sell but now I'm making my surly xcheck into an 1x9 
all road so...

I'm looking for: 

Any brand Interrupter levers (actually for the partners caseroll)

Soma Cazadeos, Barlow Pass or Smary Sam 700x45s

1 9 speed right side downtube shifter 

1 Problem Solvers shifter boss cover 

Thanks in advance.

Fair winds,

Captain Conway

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[RBW] Headset stiffness, only in middle

2015-07-23 Thread Deacon Patrick
On my Quickbeam there is a slowly increasing stiffness in my headset, but only 
in the middle (when straight). It isn’t noticeable when moving the bars back 
and forth, but when riding and making the myriad of subtle back and forth 
adjustments that are mostly leaning but some stearing it is becoming highly 
noticable, especially with my vertigo (I cut my ride very short today because 
of it).

Ideas? Tighten? Loosen? Clean and grease? Complete overhaul? 

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: 1UpUSA Bike Rack and Rivs

2015-07-23 Thread Stephen D
Thanks so much for posting a report on this -- I've been looking for a more 
detailed review of how this rack works with fenders.  

I'm getting a 404 error when I click on your flickr link.  Can you post the 
link again?  

Thanks again, your post answered some of the questions I had after the 
recent discussion on 1UpUSA racks.

Best,
Stephen

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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks Champion Flyer Special Saddle, Honey Brown

2015-07-23 Thread Keith Muller
Saddle is sold!

On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 12:21:53 PM UTC-4, Ryan Thompson wrote:

 I'll take it if it's still available. Can't figure out how to PM from my 
 iPhone.   

 Ryan

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Re: [RBW] Re: Headset stiffness, only in middle

2015-07-23 Thread Ryan Fleming
Actually my partner and I didn't have the best of luck with the Tange 
Rollerball which my 97 Rive came with. But that was our experience and 
maybe we did something wrong like overtightened it. So it's probably a 
really good choice; I hear needle bearings mitigate shimmy.  I'm good with 
my CKs although with our faltering CDN $ , I wouldn't want to have to buy 
one now:)
On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 11:24:11 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 + 1 for the Tange headset, which looks to be the same they sold 15+ years 
 ago as the Tange Rollerball headset. The one on my '99 gofast is still as 
 smooth as when new. (So is the Ultegra cartridge one on the '03, too.)

 On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Ryan Fleming ryanmallo...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 What kind of headset? Cup and cone? if they're loose bearings I've heard 
 the addition or subtraction of a bearing might help so the race doesn't get 
 more worn.
  
 If you go new CK or the Tange needle bearing headset that Riv sells is 
 very nice...http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hsrd.htm 
  
 But what do I know? Refer to the man:
  
 http://www.sheldonbrown.com/headsets.html
  
 I know you're trying to finance a fleet of Clems , though, so hopefully 
 the above link helps...

 On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 11:06:29 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 On my Quickbeam there is a slowly increasing stiffness in my headset, 
 but only in the middle (when straight). It isn’t noticeable when moving the 
 bars back and forth, but when riding and making the myriad of subtle back 
 and forth adjustments that are mostly leaning but some stearing it is 
 becoming highly noticable, especially with my vertigo (I cut my ride very 
 short today because of it).

 Ideas? Tighten? Loosen? Clean and grease? Complete overhaul? 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  
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[RBW] WTB: 51cm or 54cm Hunqapillar

2015-07-23 Thread Justin August
Hey-
It's worth a shot?

-J

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[RBW] Re: Headset stiffness, only in middle

2015-07-23 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
I recommend dropping the fork and taking a look.  I just went through this 
exercise and was surprised how little lubrication was in the original 
bearings.  It is fairly easy to clean the bearings, re-lubricate and 
reinstall.  If you've never done this before it's better to learn on this 
headset than any new expensive upgrade you might talk yourself into.  By 
the way, I tossed the cages and old bearings and reinstalled new loose 
balls.  Eliminating the cages allowed me to install 14 additional ball 
bearings; 7 top and 7 bottom.

Matt



On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 11:42:38 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Sheldon calls it indexed steering. Ingeniously accurate. Indubitably due 
 to all the laid back, smooth riding I do. Ogre tightening is not outside 
 the realm of possibility either. Sardonic grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 12:00:23 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 It's a Tange Levin headset, original with the silver QB, which has 
 relatively low milage for it's age as it was in near new condition when I 
 bought it last spring.

 With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: 1UpUSA Bike Rack and Rivs

2015-07-23 Thread Michael Hechmer
For some reason beyond my understanding Flicker has switched all 5000+ of 
my photos to private!  I have been unable to find a master switch to undue 
this.  I thought I had made the album of 10 photos public, but apparently 
only one photo got switched.  I've gone back and redone it.  I apologize 
for all the confusion and inconvenience.  Here's the link again.

Michael

On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 12:35:01 PM UTC-4, Edwin W wrote:

 I, too, can only see the picture of the rack on the car without the bikes, 
 but would like to see how you made it work. 

 On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 6:06:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Thanks to everyone who gave me feed back on how various bike racks worked 
 with Rivs, fenders, racks, and wide bars.  In the end we bought the 1UpUSA 
 rack and offer this initial review

 Bottom line - Rack is an A, customer service is gentlemen's C.

 First the rack.  It is as solid and almost as easy to set up as they 
 claim.  Once learned it is pretty simple to live with and works well with 
 my large Saluki and Pat's Betty.  Pictures here:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388

 It was easy enough to get the rack onto the car, and adding or removing 
 the second carrier is literally a one minute job.  I initially ran into 
 trouble getting it set up to work with fenders on 650B tires and had enough 
 frustration to almost send it back.  After some experimenting however I got 
 it rock solid.

 The rack comes preconfigured to work with 700C tires, without fenders or 
 a rack.  I bought a pair of the fender adapters to add to the rear supports 
 but found two problems.  The rear carrier pinched, crushed actually, the 
 fender stays before getting tight to the fender and the front attachment 
 didn't quite get to the tire before hitting the fender.  I lowered both the 
 front and rear bars so that they would hit the wheels sooner.  (you can see 
 in the pictures how the tire stops have been lowered.  This worked well in 
 the front but continued to bend the rear fender stays.  I went ahead and 
 pushed the rear tight.  This held the fender very firmly but allowed the 
 wheel to move across the width of the two vertical wheel holders.  When I 
 released the carrier from the wheel I found that the stays immediately 
 bounced back into position.  You can see this clearly in one of the photos. 
  I decided to simply add toe straps around the rear wheels, which held them 
 firmly to one side.

 I took the rig out for a shakedown cruise which included 5 miles of dirt 
 road, 5 miles of bad chip and seal and 5 miles of smooth highway.  Pat 
 drove while I sat in the back seat and observed the bikes.  Given the 
 amount of weight cantilevered off the back of the car and the roughness of 
 the roads there was plenty of movement of the cars suspension but 
 absolutely none between the bike and carrier nor the carrier and the hitch.

 The second bike carrier can be removed very easily and the whole rig then 
 folds up out of the way, much better than any Tule, Yakima, or Saris rack 
 that I have seen.

 So A for easy on and off and A for solidness.  A for fitting two complex 
 bikes without any interference.

 Service.  Before ordering I sent two emails to the company seeking 
 clarification of their shipping policy.  I never got an answer.  As I was 
 working through the fender / rack / 650B set up, I called them.  I told the 
 nice lady at the other end of the line that I was having problems with the 
 set up, and before I send this back to you I would like to talk to someone 
 who can speak about these issues.  She promised that someone would call me 
 but no one ever has.

 C for customer service.

 Michael




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[RBW] Re: Headset stiffness, only in middle

2015-07-23 Thread Deacon Patrick
Sheldon calls it indexed steering. Ingeniously accurate. Indubitably due 
to all the laid back, smooth riding I do. Ogre tightening is not outside 
the realm of possibility either. Sardonic grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 12:00:23 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 It's a Tange Levin headset, original with the silver QB, which has 
 relatively low milage for it's age as it was in near new condition when I 
 bought it last spring.

 With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Headset stiffness, only in middle

2015-07-23 Thread Deacon Patrick
It's a Tange Levin headset, original with the silver QB, which has 
relatively low milage for it's age as it was in near new condition when I 
bought it last spring.

With abandon,
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[RBW] SON 28 hole hub has been sold.

2015-07-23 Thread Patrick Moore
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[RBW] Bad N+1 bike logic

2015-07-23 Thread DS
Here's how it begins.

I start thinking it would be nice to have bosco bars on a bike, and since i 
already have a dedicated mtn bike (hunqapillar) and road bike (gunnar), 
that leaves my hillborne as my totally superfluous bike, perfect bosco 
candidate!

I start looking at rivbike and adding things to my cart for the bosco 
cockpit (bars, stem, brake levers, shifters, grips), almost $300 (which is 
already way more money than I need or want to spend on bike stuff right 
now). H, the Clem Smith Jr sure is starting to look pretty with those 
bosco bars, like they were made for each other, and it is only $1400, just 
$1100 more than than the bosco cockpit and things I'm selling.

Not going to do it, but its a dangerous, slippery slope we've all been on. 
But man, value wise, it seems crazy not to just get the complete with the 
already perfectly setup bosco cockpit.

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[RBW] WTB: Any 60 or 61cm Atlantis Frames and Fork Only Up for Sale?

2015-07-23 Thread true
I have a good friend who looks at the Atlantis bikes  longingly fairly often
and makes do with lesser bikes but the Atlantis is his dream bike for his type 
of riding.

Shoot, it's one of my dream bikes too but out of my price range.

I am asking on his behalf if someone has a frame and fork only they are 
considering selling
in a 60 or 61cm (C-T measurement) A 63cm would be too tall.
(not sure what sizes they came in in this size range) If it has a headset and 
BB that would be fine. Fine if not as well.

He has a bike's worth of great parts and wheels he likes to build up such a 
frame/fork.

So , if you have such a frame you wish to sell please let me know offline 
preferably, and what you are asking for it
so I can pass info on to him to contact you.  truegolden@   att   dot  
net

Thanks,

Paul in Dallas



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[RBW] Re: Headset stiffness, only in middle

2015-07-23 Thread Keith Muller
Patrick,

What headset are you running?  How old is it?

Keith

On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 12:06:29 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 On my Quickbeam there is a slowly increasing stiffness in my headset, but 
 only in the middle (when straight). It isn’t noticeable when moving the 
 bars back and forth, but when riding and making the myriad of subtle back 
 and forth adjustments that are mostly leaning but some stearing it is 
 becoming highly noticable, especially with my vertigo (I cut my ride very 
 short today because of it).

 Ideas? Tighten? Loosen? Clean and grease? Complete overhaul? 

 With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: FS: Sugino XD2 Crankset, Shimano XT Front Rear Derailleurs

2015-07-23 Thread Matt Beecher
I'll take both.  Please send me details.  

(I apologize to the grouP, as I cannot figure out how to reply privately from 
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[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-23 Thread Steve Cole
I'm very grateful for the time everyone has taken to respond to my 
question.  I'm always interested in the views of others.  In the mean time, 
it seems to make sense to set up my albatross bar with bar-ends.  I have a 
9/3 setup with Dura Ace bar ends.  I may move to trigger shifters if I find 
the bar ends less than ideal.  I have Shimano Deore XT front and rear 
derailleur and would seek out a set of XT 9/3 trigger shifters in the event 
I make the switch.

Steve Cole
Arlington, VA

On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 11:00:23 PM UTC-4, Steve Cole wrote:

 I know Riv doesn't generally condone/approve of the use of trigger 
 shifters -- they don't sell them.  I'm wondering whether any list members 
 have used them and, if so, whether you might recommend them when compared 
 to bar ends with Albatross bars.

 Thanks for your reply.

 Steve Cole
 Arlington, VA


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Re: [RBW] Bike, Book, and Hatcheting

2015-07-23 Thread Chris Chen
Nicely done!

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:

 Hi Friends,

 Over the weekend, I had a pretty BBH kinda ride!  We had a bad storm last
 Friday evening resulting in, sadly, more injured trees in our nearby park.
 While it pains me deeply to see the damage, I am a budding green-wood
 carver and so off the Riv and I went with a Silky Big Boy Saw
 http://www.traditionalwoodworker.com/Bigboy-Folding-Saw-Medium-by-Silky/productinfo/129-35036/
 and a large messenger bag to harvest some bits of fresh downed green wood.
 Using a Gransfors Bruk carving axe and a set of Del Stubbs
 http://www.pinewoodforge.com/ sloyd and compound-curve spoon knives,
 the logs turn into splits and then into spoons.  Should you want to catch
 up on how to carve your own spoon, get this book
 http://www.pinewoodforge.com/swedish.carving.techniques.html.  Anyway,
 here are some photos and a spoon.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar in northern VT To try?

2015-07-23 Thread 'David Leach' via RBW Owners Bunch
I have a 58 in Southwest Maine.

On Sunday, July 19, 2015 at 12:59:48 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Said it before... Love this list! 

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  I live in Boston and I've got a 62cm if you want to try it out. 
  
  On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 10:46:09 AM UTC-4, Daniel Jackson wrote: 
  
  Anybody out there in northern VT with a 58 or 62 Hunq that would let me 
  give her a test ride? 
  
  I'm btw sizes and would like to make sure the larger Hunq will do me 
 well. 
  
  Thanks, 
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Re: [RBW] Re: PBP Training Weekend

2015-07-23 Thread Scott Calhoun
Love the photos (and that Singer!). It looks like you had a great ride. 
Looking forward to seeing your PBP photos. PBP is on my list for 2019. 
Allez! Andiamo! Andale! 

Scott in Tucson

On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 1:54:58 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:

 Heck, once you’ve made it to Mendocino, Ft Bragg is just a hop and a skip 
 away, right?

 Yes, the malt shop place is Pick’s in Cloverdale. Classic American food—I 
 had a yummy grilled cheese, followed by a huge soft serve ice cream cone.

 --Eric N
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 Great photos, nice ride, well done.

 Holy cow, you made it up to Fort Bragg??  Nice.  Do I recognize the ice 
 cream stand as being in Cloverdale?  Classy bike.

 Bonne route, bonne journee,

 ~pb 
 (San Diego, but soon to be Sonoma)

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[RBW] Re: San Marcos vs ES

2015-07-23 Thread a3inverter
Thanks Nick and Evan for highlighting the 700c tire clearance...

On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 9:41:39 PM UTC-4, Evan Baird wrote:

 The 650b SM has significantly more clearance than the 700c version. Not 
 sure how the ES compares with 650b wheels, because i never got around to 
 trying that, but bigger is better in my experience.


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[RBW] Re: More Sam Love--and do you ride your Riv through winter?

2015-07-23 Thread LeChameau

Stunning Sam!!

I ride year-long in Ottawa. The roads are white over here, not just because 
of the snow... 

Because of the salt.

Fellow riders in the area swear by this product called Salt-A-Way. Seems 
to be marketed as a boat cleaning product, Put it in a spray bottle, spray 
away, let it dry. The end.

I can't vouch for it. But the internets say it's wonderful :)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Headset stiffness, only in middle

2015-07-23 Thread Patrick Moore
+ 1 for the Tange headset, which looks to be the same they sold 15+ years
ago as the Tange Rollerball headset. The one on my '99 gofast is still as
smooth as when new. (So is the Ultegra cartridge one on the '03, too.)

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Ryan Fleming ryanmalloryflem...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 What kind of headset? Cup and cone? if they're loose bearings I've heard
 the addition or subtraction of a bearing might help so the race doesn't get
 more worn.

 If you go new CK or the Tange needle bearing headset that Riv sells is
 very nice...http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hsrd.htm

 But what do I know? Refer to the man:

 http://www.sheldonbrown.com/headsets.html

 I know you're trying to finance a fleet of Clems , though, so hopefully
 the above link helps...

 On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 11:06:29 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 On my Quickbeam there is a slowly increasing stiffness in my headset, but
 only in the middle (when straight). It isn’t noticeable when moving the
 bars back and forth, but when riding and making the myriad of subtle back
 and forth adjustments that are mostly leaning but some stearing it is
 becoming highly noticable, especially with my vertigo (I cut my ride very
 short today because of it).

 Ideas? Tighten? Loosen? Clean and grease? Complete overhaul?

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sugino XD2 Crankset, Shimano XT Front Rear Derailleurs

2015-07-23 Thread Keith Muller
All items have been sold!

On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 12:21:53 PM UTC-4, Matt Beecher wrote:

 I'll take both.  Please send me details.   

 (I apologize to the grouP, as I cannot figure out how to reply privately 
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Re: [RBW] Headset stiffness, only in middle

2015-07-23 Thread Patrick Moore
It sounds as if the bearings or the cups are worn in one location, not
unexpected with heavy use and perhaps initial overtightening -- the wear
would occur first in the most common ball/cup position, which is straight.

I've had a similar problem, though with mine, movement through the
straight-ahead position felt notchy, indicating fretting. I took it apart,
rotated the balls about 90*, regreased, and got quite a few more miles out
of it (old Dura Ace cup/cone type headset).

Actually, the symptoms would also be produced if the cups weren't seated
exactly parallel in the head tube: could something have shifted? I don't
see how, though.

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 On my Quickbeam there is a slowly increasing stiffness in my headset, but
 only in the middle (when straight). It isn’t noticeable when moving the
 bars back and forth, but when riding and making the myriad of subtle back
 and forth adjustments that are mostly leaning but some stearing it is
 becoming highly noticable, especially with my vertigo (I cut my ride very
 short today because of it).

 Ideas? Tighten? Loosen? Clean and grease? Complete overhaul?

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*

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[RBW] Re: Headset stiffness, only in middle

2015-07-23 Thread Ryan Fleming
What kind of headset? Cup and cone? if they're loose bearings I've heard 
the addition or subtraction of a bearing might help so the race doesn't get 
more worn.
 
If you go new CK or the Tange needle bearing headset that Riv sells is very 
nice...http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hsrd.htm 
 
But what do I know? Refer to the man:
 
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/headsets.html
 
I know you're trying to finance a fleet of Clems , though, so hopefully the 
above link helps...
On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 11:06:29 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 On my Quickbeam there is a slowly increasing stiffness in my headset, but 
 only in the middle (when straight). It isn’t noticeable when moving the 
 bars back and forth, but when riding and making the myriad of subtle back 
 and forth adjustments that are mostly leaning but some stearing it is 
 becoming highly noticable, especially with my vertigo (I cut my ride very 
 short today because of it).

 Ideas? Tighten? Loosen? Clean and grease? Complete overhaul? 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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[RBW] FS: Brooks Champion Flyer Special Saddle, Honey Brown

2015-07-23 Thread Ryan Thompson
I'll take it if it's still available. Can't figure out how to PM from my 
iPhone.  

Ryan

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[RBW] Re: FS 54 Saluki

2015-07-23 Thread George Chalekian
Wow, lovely.
G

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 4:59:16 AM UTC-10, Kellie wrote:

 Here's the pea green. 10 y/o Saluki, 50cm


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2WqsBY3fRyY/VZf0svxCstI/Acg/A8uNyO4Nf98/s1600/2015-05-10%2B15.34.43.jpg


 On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 4:27:31 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:

 That's one the original runs of salukis before they changed the decals to 
 script. Was that from the second batch? The first batch were kind of a 
 sage/pea green stock color.



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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 54 Saluki

2015-07-23 Thread George Chalekian
Admitting my bias, I have to agree on the ride. : )
G

On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 7:56:09 AM UTC-10, Steve Palincsar wrote:

  On 07/06/2015 01:42 PM, Evan E. wrote:
  
  The Salukis are so pretty.  ( Liesl)  I agree! About six years ago, 
 at a Rivendell garage sale, Riv was selling a small Saluki frame, brand 
 new, in a color that looked a lot like the Rambouillet orange. The finish 
 was opalescent and it glinted gold in the sunlight. (I wasn't 
 hallucinating, I swear.) About 30 minutes later a woman bought it. She was 
 beaming. It was awesome.

  
 Truly, the ride is even more awesome.


  

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[RBW] Re: Sam Bliss, my first Riv

2015-07-23 Thread 'peech1...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch
I know how you feel.  On my 4th year with the Sam Hillborne and I can 
honestly say that riding a Rivendell changed my life.  I ride other bikes 
for different situations but it always come down to the Sam as my favorite 
bike.  Welcome to the club.
Tim Petersen.

On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 2:52:16 PM UTC-5, Alohashirt wrote:

 Just got my new Sam Hillborne, and I am in awe! There just aren't enough 
 superlatives in the English language to describe how agile, comfortable, 
 and commanding it feels to ride this masterpiece. I've been riding for more 
 than 40 years, and have not felt this level of joy since I rode my first 
 new bike-- the three-speed I got for my ninth birthday.

 Since then, there have been several beastly mountain bikes and plenty of 
 pricey Euro bikes to pass through my life. But nothing has made me smile 
 quite like Sam.

 The guys at Mt. Airy/College Park Bikes (Maryland) and the patient folks 
 at Riv really went out of their way to help me get the ride of my life. 
 Apologies if all this gushing is boring-- but I just had to post it for the 
 one group of people most likely to understand!


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[RBW] Re: 1UpUSA Bike Rack and Rivs

2015-07-23 Thread Edwin W
I, too, can only see the picture of the rack on the car without the bikes, 
but would like to see how you made it work. 

On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 6:06:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Thanks to everyone who gave me feed back on how various bike racks worked 
 with Rivs, fenders, racks, and wide bars.  In the end we bought the 1UpUSA 
 rack and offer this initial review

 Bottom line - Rack is an A, customer service is gentlemen's C.

 First the rack.  It is as solid and almost as easy to set up as they 
 claim.  Once learned it is pretty simple to live with and works well with 
 my large Saluki and Pat's Betty.  Pictures here:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388

 It was easy enough to get the rack onto the car, and adding or removing 
 the second carrier is literally a one minute job.  I initially ran into 
 trouble getting it set up to work with fenders on 650B tires and had enough 
 frustration to almost send it back.  After some experimenting however I got 
 it rock solid.

 The rack comes preconfigured to work with 700C tires, without fenders or a 
 rack.  I bought a pair of the fender adapters to add to the rear supports 
 but found two problems.  The rear carrier pinched, crushed actually, the 
 fender stays before getting tight to the fender and the front attachment 
 didn't quite get to the tire before hitting the fender.  I lowered both the 
 front and rear bars so that they would hit the wheels sooner.  (you can see 
 in the pictures how the tire stops have been lowered.  This worked well in 
 the front but continued to bend the rear fender stays.  I went ahead and 
 pushed the rear tight.  This held the fender very firmly but allowed the 
 wheel to move across the width of the two vertical wheel holders.  When I 
 released the carrier from the wheel I found that the stays immediately 
 bounced back into position.  You can see this clearly in one of the photos. 
  I decided to simply add toe straps around the rear wheels, which held them 
 firmly to one side.

 I took the rig out for a shakedown cruise which included 5 miles of dirt 
 road, 5 miles of bad chip and seal and 5 miles of smooth highway.  Pat 
 drove while I sat in the back seat and observed the bikes.  Given the 
 amount of weight cantilevered off the back of the car and the roughness of 
 the roads there was plenty of movement of the cars suspension but 
 absolutely none between the bike and carrier nor the carrier and the hitch.

 The second bike carrier can be removed very easily and the whole rig then 
 folds up out of the way, much better than any Tule, Yakima, or Saris rack 
 that I have seen.

 So A for easy on and off and A for solidness.  A for fitting two complex 
 bikes without any interference.

 Service.  Before ordering I sent two emails to the company seeking 
 clarification of their shipping policy.  I never got an answer.  As I was 
 working through the fender / rack / 650B set up, I called them.  I told the 
 nice lady at the other end of the line that I was having problems with the 
 set up, and before I send this back to you I would like to talk to someone 
 who can speak about these issues.  She promised that someone would call me 
 but no one ever has.

 C for customer service.

 Michael




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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Simple1

2015-07-23 Thread Justin August
Giving this a bump after sitting on it for two weeks.

58cm SimpleOne.

   - Tange headset
   - Wheel set is velocity unbranded track hubs to SunCR18 rims with Soma 
   C-Line terracota tires.
   - Surly dingle 17/21
   - Freewheel 17t
   - 9 speed chain
   - There are pics of the frame here 
   https://flickr.com/photos/86714991@N00/sets/72157646060803134
   - Goo has been removed.
   
All that for $700 + real shipping (I’ll ship first via BikeFlights or a 
local shop, then invoice you for cost)

Other stuff. Will be giving first priority to whomever buys the 
frame/fork/headset/wheelset)

   - SOMA Layback Post 27.2, BLACK - $15
   - SOMA Sutra stem 100mm, BLACK $25
   - Jitensha Bars $25 (Discovered a gauge in the aluminum near-ish the 
   stem. Should be fine, caveat emptor)
   - Nitto x Fair-weather 42cm (similar to Noodle but shallower drop) $40
   - Shimano Brake Levers $20
   - SRAM brake levers, BLACK alloy levers $30
   
Drop me a line and convince me of a deal! I am easily swayed by money.
Pickup in Oakland, delivery possible if within a decent distance - meaning 
down to Santa Cruz, up to Santa Rosa? Over to halfway between here and 
Sacramento?

-Justin

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Re: [RBW] Dirt Drop stem with Atlantis?

2015-07-23 Thread Aaron Young
I've been trying to find the right bar/stem combo since I bought a 56
Atlantis months ago.  Recently I tried an 8cm dirt drop plus Grand Bois
Randonneur bars and it seems just right for me. As others have said, you
shouldn't have any qualms about putting a dirt drop on an Atlantis (or any
bike for that matter).  It's a great stem.

Here's a pic. No bar tape yet, but that's because I'm afraid of commitment.

https://flic.kr/p/uUrjow

The angle of the photo makes the bars look higher than they are. They are
slightly above or even with saddle height and super comfortable (on short
test rides so far - excited to try it on an extended ride soon!).

Good luck!

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR



On Wednesday, July 22, 2015, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch 
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Pros -  If you run the bars 2 or more inches above seat height, I think
 the Dirt Drops help disguise the extra long quill since it pivots
 approximately midway.  Seems to break things up ... to my eye anyway.   Put
 some stem shifters and/or a brass bell on the quill and that tall neck will
 virtually disappear.  Personally, I think the Dirt Drop looks far superior
 to a super tall Tallux with a short reach.  Another pro is the Dirt Drop is
 stronger and less expensive than the Tallux.

 Keep in mind mountain handlebars and road bars have different dimensions.
 One requires 25.4 stem and the other 26.0.  Be sure to get the larger so
 that rather than having to purchase another stem to switch between the two,
 you can simply purchase a $5 shim.


 On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 1:38:28 PM UTC-7, Eric wrote:

 Anyone have thoughts about using a Dirt Drop stem paired with some Noodle
 handlebars on an Atlantis?

 Pros? Cons?

 Any insight would be greatly appreciated, thanks!!

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[RBW] Re: Question re Decal Removal

2015-07-23 Thread Benedikt
The decal on my seat tube is cracking and peeling off as well. Been doing 
that for a long time. Recently I noticed a little of the paint coming off 
where the decal used to be. About two days later I realized what's causing 
it. When I come home the bike comes indoors and gets hung up on the wall by 
the rear wheel. Always the same way. And I always pick it up by the seat 
tube with my left hand. It's the wedding ring. As I lift the bike and the 
tube moves in my hand my wedding ring scratches right across that decal. I 
don't know if this sort of thing is happening to you but could be.

Brian P.

On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 1:05:20 PM UTC-7, Jim S. wrote:

 Hello, 

 I was wondering if anyone has experience dealing with a damaged decal.

 The bike is an Atlantis. Not the end of the world, but the seat-tube decal 
 is cracked and bubbling off. Does anyone know of a method of removal 
 without otherwise damaging the paint? No decal would look better than a 
 bubbly one.

 Thanks for any expertise you might share.

 Jim S.


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[RBW] Re: More Sam Love--and do you ride your Riv through winter?

2015-07-23 Thread Marc Irwin
I ride my Hunq  during the winter here in Michigan, but we only get around 
8' of snow during the year.  I use 45mm Nokian studs on it from December to 
March.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KTlTxc_G_I0/VbDHe7z29jI/IRM/LM4FEFg_jPc/s1600/IMG_20150203_101902.jpg
I leave Sam in the garage.

Marc

On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 9:08:36 PM UTC-4, murphyjrfk wrote:

 I didn't want to hijack a thread so I figured I would start another.

 I bought one of the last Sage Sams. Hot damn I'm glad I did.  I've ridden 
 lots of bikes and have access to lots of cool bikes but man this one is 
 special.  Of all the Riv's I've ridden and I've seen this is just by far my 
 favorite.  It's so perfectly--well I don't know--neutral.  I have ridden it 
 every day and lots o miles in the past month. Only bike I have ridden. 
  It's a super typical nothing special build.  Velocity Synergy (which I 
 hate-anything better?) Deore LX hubs rear der blah blah.  The 9 speed 
 Microshift Thumbies are the best and I really like the Surly Knard tires as 
 jack of all trade type. Actually I really love them they are nothing 
 special but good at lots o things and not crazy expensive.  

 But alas--do you ride it through the winter?  Not California winters. More 
 like nasty rust belt Cleveland winters with salt and brine and crap 
 everywhere and tons o snow.  I normally just ride a different beater every 
 winter and junk it--but man I don't want to stop riding the Sam.  I ride a 
 lot in the winter too so I'm usually thinking about it. I really don't care 
 about scratches paint chips bits o rust--can always repaint it I guess. 
  Just curious how you handle the really bad stuff--but not give up that 
 Magic Riv Ride.

 Attached is a picture.  I stink and pictures and computer stuff so I hope 
 it shows up.  


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