[RBW] WTB: Nitto M12, Passhunter, Threaded headset Decaleur

[Ryan Ray]

I'm swapping out the brand new stainless Soma Porteur rack for a M12 style 
rack and a low rider set up. Its for sale too if you are interested.

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[RBW] FS: Hunqapillar frame + forks (low trail + original) & parts

[René Sterental]

Hi all,

Since it's pretty clear that there is interest in the separate items but
not the complete bike, I'm listing everything separately. I'm traveling
next week, but will be back next Saturday, so shipping can be done on the
week of November 9 for any parts that sell before that date.

- Pewter custom painted 58cm Hunqapillar frame with custom made low trail
fork with braze-ons + original (with original paint) fork, original Nitto
seat post & Interloc original headset - $1850
- Phil Woods Bottom Bracket + cups installed on frame or separately - $120

- Mavic A719 36 spoked wheelset with XT hubs built by Rich L @ RBW - $500

- 50mm Schwalbe Big Bens with lots of life left (pair) - $70

- Nitto Mini front rack - $110

- Paul Neo-Retro polished front brakes with salmon pads  - $130
- Paul Touring polished rear brakes with salmon pads  - $130

- Shiimano Dura-Ace 9 speed downtime shifters - $80

- 12/36 XT 9 speed cogset M770 - $80

- Shimano XT M771 Shadow rear derailer - $80

- Brand new (just tested) Brooks B17 Imperial saddle - 150

- Paul front brake cable holder - $30

There will be other parts coming, as I start doing more cleanup in my
 garage.

Feel free to contact me off list. Shipping is not included. Local delivery
in the SF Bay Area can be arranged.

Happy Halloween!

René

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60CM Blue Bombadil frame LIKE new

[Kendallspower]

Hey guys,

Making one last attempt here before going to eBay.

Thanks!

On Monday, September 14, 2015 at 1:09:22 PM UTC-7, Kendallspower wrote:
>
> Trying to gauge interest. I have 2 and I never ride the nicer one which I 
> am thinking about parting with. It was a wedding gift from 
> my wife.
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[RBW] Re: Racks for the Clem

[Tim Wood]

I just realized that my Tubus Tara won't work on the Clem without installing 
mid fork clamps. 

Does anyone know how the surly front rack would line up with the higher fork 
braze ons on the Clem?  What about the mid fork struts on the new soma porteur 
deluxe?  Maybe I'll have to pony up for the nitto campee with the removable low 
riders. I want to be able to run a basket and panniers up front.  

Why does rivendell have to be different and mount their braze ons higher that 
the majority of manufactures? 

And what about the braze ons on top of the fork crown? Is there a rack that 
attaches there? I think I remember seeing a rando rack that did. Cycles 
Touissant out of Calgary maybe? 

So many questions. 

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[RBW] Anyone order a Joe?

[William R.]

Everything about the Joe works for me so I went ahead and pulled that trigger 
on a 55! If I am reading the receipt correctly (there is a 0003 on there) I got 
the third one or the third 55?

I don't have any problem waiting to March to get it. The little mysteries of 
the design, color and parts that remain are just fuel on the anticipation fire 
that will warm me all winter!

Bill (stoked in Westchester, NY)

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[RBW] Re: Racks for the Clem

[Garth]

 Tim, the Soma struts are angle adjustable , so they are fine.  

The Surly is also adjustable but in a different way . From the photo here 
https://recklesscognition.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/front-fender-full.jpg 
it appears it would work , but I cannot say for certain .  

The top fork braze ons can be used with the Nitto Mark's rack and the 2 
strut front rack also. I'd bet many rear racks with double struts could 
work on the front also.  Surly is coming out with 2 new highly adjustable 
front racks in the usual black or silver next year that also can be 
attached there . 
http://surlybikes.com/blog/post/something_wicked_this_way_comes  

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[RBW] Re: Rohloff IGH Questions

[Matthew J]

> I think its the ultimate technology for worry-free world touring. Not 
everyone likes these hubs, but aside from incredibly rare hub flange 
cracks, Ive heard *zero* 
> legitimate problems with them. As of a few years ago, the record was many 
100's of K hubs with zero mechanical failures...  

Rohloff are definitely well made.  However the oil leak I experienced with 
mine and which another poster above experienced was indeed a legitimate 
problem with the early run.

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[RBW] Re: basket bags

[Julian]

At under $30 and MUSA, that looks like a possible bargain. Curious about 
quality, but pretty simple design, so if decent sewing and a good zipper, 
not much to go wrong. Not waterproof, but then again, neither are the 
Shopsacks (which I've used daily for years and love), which are water 
"resistant", but if you're riding in a persistent rain or a short heavy 
downpour they will let water in (I've learned to put anything that CAN'T 
get wet into a plastic bag before stashing in the Shopsack on a rainy day). 

I'll have to see if my LBS can get one of these -- if I do I'll report 
back. Thanks Beth for the link. 

Regards, 

Julian Westerhout
In currently raining and a blustery 48 degrees Bloomington, IL 

On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 9:40:17 AM UTC-5, Beth H wrote:
>
> For those who can't spring for a basket bag from RBW, 
> A non-waterproof alternative exists at Wald, US makers of fine bicycle 
> basketry. 
>
>
> http://www.waldsports.com/index.cfm/store/bags-and-liners/1372-navy-blue-bag/
>
>
> http://www.waldsports.com/index.cfm/store/bags-and-liners/1392-navy-blue-bag/
>
> The downer is that they're not waterproof so probably better for Phoenix 
> than for Seattle. Still they fit baskets nicely.
> Cheers and happy riding!
> Beth in pdx
> -- 
> Beth Hamon
> Jewish educator, songleader & cantorial soloist
> http://www.beth-hamon-music.com
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Re: [RBW] Re: What bar for a Bontrager Race Lite?

[cyclotourist]

I've gone the 1" --> 1-1/8" shim route with poor results. In my case it
loosens up over time. I'm not sure what to do to get it on properly.

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Jim M.  wrote:

> You can hacksaw the bars narrower. You can also use a shim to fit a 1 1/8"
> stem. I'll check my parts drawer -- I may have a shorter 1" threadless stem.
>
> jim m
> wc ca
>
>
> On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 8:54:01 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I got a very nice 1996 Race Lite a few weeks ago, and before I decide to
>> sell it, I'd like to try swapping out the (to me) excessively wide bar (66
>> cm!) for something more comfortable. The stem is also a bit longer and
>> lower than I'd like for this bar; if I could install a higher or shorter
>> one, the bar might work.
>>
>> The problem is complicated by the fact that the bike has a threadless
>> steerer made for 1" instead of 1 1/8" stems, so that I am, practically
>> speaking, limited to the stem at hand.
>>
>> So, some sort of bar with more rise and sweepback than the present one
>> seems like a good choice; but not too much rise or too much sweepback, and
>> -- very important -- the bar should give the rider a very solid and secure
>> grip when braking on very steep declines. I daresay an Albatross wouldn't
>> do this.
>>
>> What about the Postino bar from VO? Other possibilities? Photo of the
>> bike below.
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> [image: Inline image 2]
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>> *
>> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a
>> circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and
>> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>>
>> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* Carthusian motto
>>
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[RBW] Re: Clementine tire size?

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

They should definitely fit. I don't imagine Rivendell would be shipping the 
bikes with tires that can't be fenderized, and you really need a minimum of 
10-12mm for clearance. The Kendas at 1.75" are 48mm, and the fenders are 
60mm. I could be wrong, but I imagine these bikes can take the one size 
65mm SKS that Riv offers for all three wheel sizes.

On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 9:28:01 AM UTC-4, jandrews_nyc wrote:
>
> The planet bike fenders look good
> Do we think they will fit the frame (52cm)?
> The black will work well with the black clementine coming.

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[Beth H]

Beautifully done! Congrats and enjoy riding! 
Beth in PDX

On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 6:21:47 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
>
> i posted about a 30$ trek 870 frame/fork i found earlier this year HERE 
> .
>  
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[Michael Hechmer]

Very nice job.  That vintage usually had 27"wheels.  Did you have the brake 
posts moved?

Michael

On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 9:21:47 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>
>
> i posted about a 30$ trek 870 frame/fork i found earlier this year HERE 
> .
>  
>  
>
> 
> boredom, and the fact that ive never been able to abide a true beater, 
> turned it into a project that was helped out by several people in the group 
> who supplied parts, so i figured i'd share how it turned out. 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Do you know the RAL number of the powdercoat used on your frame?  Just in 
case I get lucky!  ;>)



On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 8:21:47 PM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>
>
> i posted about a 30$ trek 870 frame/fork i found earlier this year HERE 
> .
>  
>  
>
> 
> boredom, and the fact that ive never been able to abide a true beater, 
> turned it into a project that was helped out by several people in the group 
> who supplied parts, so i figured i'd share how it turned out. 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rohloff IGH Questions

[BSWP]

I continue to be drawn to a Rohloph IGH for a new bike. One aspect that 
slows me down is getting the OEM2 torque arm fixed to the frame. I much 
much much prefer a clean install over the unsightly long extension links 
that I see, strapped to the left chainstay on many installs. And I have no 
interest at all in those cast rear dropouts that have been promoted for the 
hubs (like from Paragon) - they just ruin the clean lines of a frame, IMHO. 
What I've seen, that looks like a great solution, is a bit of custom 
fabrication in the rear triangle to give the OEM2 torque arm a fixing 
point, as done here:

http://alexandchristine.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Framebuilding/Wetmorian11/i-T4DZ3pX

Has anyone else found a similar clean way to anchor the OEM2 arm?

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Rohloff IGH Questions

[Matthew J]

Another picture here 

.

(I still have those grips, BTW.  Have not since owned a bike in a color 
that works with white grips. 

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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[Daniel D.]

I'm always tempted by a deal and I've been eyeing a riv.  But not digging 
those handlebars.

On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 3:42:09 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
>
> Looking over the Joe Appaloosa on the Blug and it looks like a great bike. 
> The pre-order price is a great deal. Anyone pull the trigger and order one? 
> I am guessing they won't last long- only 4 55cms left!!!
>
> I missed the Clem but am thinking seriously about this one.
>
> Cheers!
> Chris
>
>

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[RBW] Coffeeneuring ride.

[hsmitham]

Hot off the presses.

Here 


Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[Bill Lindsay]

Yep, I'm the opposite.  I'm usually willing to pay whatever things cost, 
and don't need another Rivendell, but those handlebars are the draw all on 
their own.  The fact that a kickass bike comes attached to those 
irresistible handlebars is gravy.  

On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 12:18:34 PM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote:
>
> I'm always tempted by a deal and I've been eyeing a riv.  But not digging 
> those handlebars.
>
> On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 3:42:09 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
>>
>> Looking over the Joe Appaloosa on the Blug and it looks like a great 
>> bike. The pre-order price is a great deal. Anyone pull the trigger and 
>> order one? I am guessing they won't last long- only 4 55cms left!!!
>>
>> I missed the Clem but am thinking seriously about this one.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Chris
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[hsmitham]

Drew,

That is a sick build and mean in a totally rad way!! Keep that baby close 
at hand. Such eye candy.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 6:21:47 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
>
> i posted about a 30$ trek 870 frame/fork i found earlier this year HERE 
> .
>  
>  
>
> 
> boredom, and the fact that ive never been able to abide a true beater, 
> turned it into a project that was helped out by several people in the group 
> who supplied parts, so i figured i'd share how it turned out. 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: I finally bought a Rivendell -- Cheviot!

[Ryan Ray]

So i just got through with an interaction with Soma folks over these fenders. 
It went as well as you would expect. Apparently Free Range and the mechanic who 
worked on mine both did it wrong and the installation is to blame not the 
fenders. The example installation on their own blog post was also incorrect but 
it didnt count because they didnt have a rack installed yet. "I guess its too 
much to ask our customers to have commin sense" was in the discussion as well. 
I pretty much hate my brand new Soma now and wish i could return the whole damn 
thing.

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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[Robert Bolesta]

I've been interested in the Joe since they posted those two prototypes. 
But, I'd rather build it up myself, and, bummer about the color! Why not 
that *beautiful dark red like the proto* 
? 

I'm really into the Joe, though. I've been dying to own a bike that can 
take 50s + fenders, and that has lots of eyelets, etc!


On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 4:29:20 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Yep, I'm the opposite.  I'm usually willing to pay whatever things cost, 
> and don't need another Rivendell, but those handlebars are the draw all on 
> their own.  The fact that a kickass bike comes attached to those 
> irresistible handlebars is gravy.  
>
> On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 12:18:34 PM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote:
>>
>> I'm always tempted by a deal and I've been eyeing a riv.  But not digging 
>> those handlebars.
>>
>> On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 3:42:09 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
>>>
>>> Looking over the Joe Appaloosa on the Blug and it looks like a great 
>>> bike. The pre-order price is a great deal. Anyone pull the trigger and 
>>> order one? I am guessing they won't last long- only 4 55cms left!!!
>>>
>>> I missed the Clem but am thinking seriously about this one.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto 25.4mm Moustache Bar

[David Banzer]

After getting a complete cockpit setup with these, I'm very happy and would now 
like to get another set for an early 80s Trek. 
So, another WTB...
Nitto Mustache Bar, prefer the 25.4mm clamp version as I have stem already. 
Thanks,
David
Chicago 

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[drew]

Hey Michael, this was In the early stages of trek making mountain bikes, so the 
800 series  all had 26in wheels at that time. The clearances are insane. There 
is still a ton of room to go bigger than the 2.25 that is in there now.

The color is anthracite from Olympic powder coating in Irvine. It's one of 
their standard colors that they have on the wall, nothing fancy. I was hoping 
to match the original metallic green, but didn't realize how much powdercoating 
prices go up once you get a custom color. 

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks for the color information and the information on clearances because 
I was also wondering about that.  I'm now looking for a 60cm 1985 850 or 
870 frameset.  I checked out the geometry at vintage-trek.com and I really 
think I would like to build one up in the future. 

If you haven't looked at the 1985 Trek catalog, you might be amazed at how 
close you came to that year's 830 color!






On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 11:14:16 AM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>
> Hey Michael, this was In the early stages of trek making mountain bikes, 
> so the 800 series  all had 26in wheels at that time. The clearances are 
> insane. There is still a ton of room to go bigger than the 2.25 that is in 
> there now.
>
> The color is anthracite from Olympic powder coating in Irvine. It's one of 
> their standard colors that they have on the wall, nothing fancy. I was 
> hoping to match the original metallic green, but didn't realize how much 
> powdercoating prices go up once you get a custom color. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[Lynne Cooney]

I want to, but having just bought a Cheviot, I need to not spend another 
$2k right now. I also know that I have to immediately replace the front 
wheel -- no dynamo, no deal. And I don't need a triple. I'm basically never 
going to use the big ring. So the $400 saved is gone.

 Yeah, I still want to.

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[RBW] Re: Clementine tire size?

[jandrews_nyc]

The planet bike fenders look good
Do we think they will fit the frame (52cm)?
The black will work well with the black clementine coming.

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[RBW] basket bags

[Beth H]

For those who can't spring for a basket bag from RBW,
A non-waterproof alternative exists at Wald, US makers of fine bicycle
basketry.

http://www.waldsports.com/index.cfm/store/bags-and-liners/1372-navy-blue-bag/

http://www.waldsports.com/index.cfm/store/bags-and-liners/1392-navy-blue-bag/

The downer is that they're not waterproof so probably better for Phoenix
than for Seattle. Still they fit baskets nicely.
Cheers and happy riding!
Beth in pdx
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[RBW] Anyone order a Joe?

[Christopher Murray]

I'm officially in. Let the waiting begin! 

Cheers!
Chris

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[RBW] Re: Rohloff IGH Questions

[Matthew J]

Maybe I am biased, although as I say above, I never warmed to the Rolloff 
(Riv content: not long after selling this I bought my Hilsen), but I think 
Oswald did a very good job with the lines on my custom Rohloff 

. 

On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 11:48:43 AM UTC-5, BSWP wrote:
>
> I continue to be drawn to a Rohloph IGH for a new bike. One aspect that 
> slows me down is getting the OEM2 torque arm fixed to the frame. I much 
> much much prefer a clean install over the unsightly long extension links 
> that I see, strapped to the left chainstay on many installs. And I have no 
> interest at all in those cast rear dropouts that have been promoted for the 
> hubs (like from Paragon) - they just ruin the clean lines of a frame, IMHO. 
> What I've seen, that looks like a great solution, is a bit of custom 
> fabrication in the rear triangle to give the OEM2 torque arm a fixing 
> point, as done here:
>
>
> http://alexandchristine.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Framebuilding/Wetmorian11/i-T4DZ3pX
>
> Has anyone else found a similar clean way to anchor the OEM2 arm?
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
>

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[RBW] Re: basket bags

[Lynne Cooney]

I found that a perfectly serviceable option is any reusable shopping bag, 
like a Trader Joe's bag. No zipper, but if you use a net over your basket, 
that's really not a problem.

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[RBW] Re: What bar for a Bontrager Race Lite?

[Jim M.]

You can hacksaw the bars narrower. You can also use a shim to fit a 1 1/8" 
stem. I'll check my parts drawer -- I may have a shorter 1" threadless stem.

jim m
wc ca

On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 8:54:01 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I got a very nice 1996 Race Lite a few weeks ago, and before I decide to 
> sell it, I'd like to try swapping out the (to me) excessively wide bar (66 
> cm!) for something more comfortable. The stem is also a bit longer and 
> lower than I'd like for this bar; if I could install a higher or shorter 
> one, the bar might work.
>
> The problem is complicated by the fact that the bike has a threadless 
> steerer made for 1" instead of 1 1/8" stems, so that I am, practically 
> speaking, limited to the stem at hand.
>
> So, some sort of bar with more rise and sweepback than the present one 
> seems like a good choice; but not too much rise or too much sweepback, and 
> -- very important -- the bar should give the rider a very solid and secure 
> grip when braking on very steep declines. I daresay an Albatross wouldn't 
> do this.
>
> What about the Postino bar from VO? Other possibilities? Photo of the bike 
> below.
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> [image: Inline image 2]
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[RBW] Re: What bar for a Bontrager Race Lite?

[velomann]

I'd go with an On-One Mary bar, but maybe not enough 
rise? http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/HBOOMA/on-one-mary-handlebar
Mike


On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 8:54:01 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I got a very nice 1996 Race Lite a few weeks ago, and before I decide to 
> sell it, I'd like to try swapping out the (to me) excessively wide bar (66 
> cm!) for something more comfortable. The stem is also a bit longer and 
> lower than I'd like for this bar; if I could install a higher or shorter 
> one, the bar might work.
>
> The problem is complicated by the fact that the bike has a threadless 
> steerer made for 1" instead of 1 1/8" stems, so that I am, practically 
> speaking, limited to the stem at hand.
>
> So, some sort of bar with more rise and sweepback than the present one 
> seems like a good choice; but not too much rise or too much sweepback, and 
> -- very important -- the bar should give the rider a very solid and secure 
> grip when braking on very steep declines. I daresay an Albatross wouldn't 
> do this.
>
> What about the Postino bar from VO? Other possibilities? Photo of the bike 
> below.
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> [image: Inline image 2]
> -- 
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>
> *
> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a 
> circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and 
> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>
> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* Carthusian motto
>  
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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Wow, I read the blog post and stats on the Appaloosa and rendered it in 
BikeCad and it just didn't do anything for me, at all.  But I somehow 
missed the proto-Appaloosa linked here and if the only major difference is 
the fork and longer chainstays, then I'm liking this a lot.  They would 
have to eventually offer it as a frameset for me to even consider it, 
though. 



On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 5:42:09 PM UTC-5, Christopher Murray wrote:
>
> Looking over the Joe Appaloosa on the Blug and it looks like a great bike. 
> The pre-order price is a great deal. Anyone pull the trigger and order one? 
> I am guessing they won't last long- only 4 55cms left!!!
>
> I missed the Clem but am thinking seriously about this one.
>
> Cheers!
> Chris
>
>

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[RBW] Instructional videos on how to make your own ABS fender clips and saddle bag clips are posted on Facebook Rivendell Owners group page.

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I had several requests to make an instructional video on ABS quick release 
fender clip making. I couldn't figure out how to splice them together into 
one, so there are four posts. They cover my thinking on material selection, 
strap width, heating the plastic and imagination. I needed a quick release 
for the bottom of my Adam bag, so I made one on these videos. Exact same 
technique is used in making fender clips. I hope your imaginations run 
wild. What else is needed that can be made from ABS? Let me know what you 
come up with. So far I have made: A 2" diameter kickstand pad, fender clip 
quick releases, a camera case mount, the bag rack clip shown in these 
videos, and molded internal frame bag skeletons. I have future, project 
thoughts on bikepacking. 
Global warming is a serious emergency. I bang the drum loudly. Bike 
commuting is something to encourage. It should also be easier and these 
projects should help. 

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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[William R.]

Hey Patrick, I'm in the same boat as you, I'm an 87 pbh and I ordered the 55. I 
don't doubt my choice though. I don't think you can go wrong either way but 
I've got my reason for going with the 55. In the not too distant past I was a 
big frame guy. I went with two 60cm Sams. An orange canti brake version, and 
later a blue, double tt, silver side pull version. Barely a fist of seat post 
showing on those babies! And they rode like caddies! I could do things no hands 
on those bikes that no sane person should do! I miss that orange Sam the most. 
I still have and will keep my big 60cm VO Polyvalent. I'm not expecting the 55 
Joe to behave drastically different than the 60 Sam's or the 58 Joe. Just 
perhaps a little more nimble. I am sure that when I first get it I will ride it 
everywhere but I'm really getting it to fill the mixed terrain/dirt road/trail 
rider role. A few blug posts back was the 54cm Hunqapillar 1x11 that Mark 
built. I thought that would have worked great for me too. Not too small. The 
price tag would have been almost twice what this deal on the Joe is and I think 
the 55 will do just fine in that role. If you are unsure of your choice just 
give them a call. They will point out all of the pros and cons (if any) of 
choosing one size or the other.

best, 

-Bill

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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[Daniel D.]

Should we read anything into the Joe's page listing testimonials about the 
hillborne? :p

>
>

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[RBW] Re: What bar for a Bontrager Race Lite?

[Kieran J]

Yeah, I was gonna suggest the Soma Clarence, which is basically the same 
thing. Nice bars for MTB.

KJ


On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 8:50:52 PM UTC-4, velomann wrote:
>
> I'd go with an On-One Mary bar, but maybe not enough rise? 
> http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/HBOOMA/on-one-mary-handlebar
> Mike
>
>
> On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 8:54:01 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I got a very nice 1996 Race Lite a few weeks ago, and before I decide to 
>> sell it, I'd like to try swapping out the (to me) excessively wide bar (66 
>> cm!) for something more comfortable. The stem is also a bit longer and 
>> lower than I'd like for this bar; if I could install a higher or shorter 
>> one, the bar might work.
>>
>> The problem is complicated by the fact that the bike has a threadless 
>> steerer made for 1" instead of 1 1/8" stems, so that I am, practically 
>> speaking, limited to the stem at hand.
>>
>> So, some sort of bar with more rise and sweepback than the present one 
>> seems like a good choice; but not too much rise or too much sweepback, and 
>> -- very important -- the bar should give the rider a very solid and secure 
>> grip when braking on very steep declines. I daresay an Albatross wouldn't 
>> do this.
>>
>> What about the Postino bar from VO? Other possibilities? Photo of the 
>> bike below.
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> [image: Inline image 2]
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>>
>> *
>> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a 
>> circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and 
>> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>>
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>>  
>>
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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[comveo]

Hey Patrick,

I'll chime in since I first had a 58cm Hunqapillar, then sized up to a 62. 
I too am on the line between sizes. You're looking at a slightly smaller 
jump from 55cm to 58cm with the Appaloosa. In my case the smaller size 
required just too much post and stem protrusion to be practical for the 
mostly upright riding I'm doing. Now, since the frame comes up to "meet me" 
more on the larger bike, I feel like I have much more flexibility with bar 
choice and height, minus maybe drop bars..haven't tried them, just 
Bullmoose flat MTB and Albatross. With the Choco-Moose on the Joe, bigger 
should not be a problem. And if you ride with normal shoes, you'll likely 
have about an inch between the bike and your body(mid-top tube) with the 
largest tires possible on the Joe. If you plan on having every bar choice 
out there and don't mind a bit of post, stick with the 55cm, though for the 
bars the bike comes with the larger may indeed feel more "horse"-like.I'm 
glad I went bigger after being able to try both Hunqs. Food for thought and 
I'd love to hear your feedback either way when yours arrives. Psyched on 
this bike! : )


-Bryan

On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 8:23:43 PM UTC-4, Patrick D Kelly wrote:
>
> I've jumped in. Ordered a 55. The thing that worries me is that my PBH is 
> 87, right on the line between 55 and 58. Any thoughts on if I should try to 
> switch over to size 58? The sizes are so close it probably won't make any 
> real diff except for the single/double top tube (I lean more towards having 
> single TT, but having double wouldn't be horrible). It's not like the 
> difference between a medium clem and large clem. :) But I'm still worried 
> that the 58 would be the better size.
>
> This will be my first rivbike. I've lusted after them for years, and 
> seriously contemplated both the hunqapillar and the sam hillborne. When the 
> Joe showed up, I recognized it as the one made for me. Even though I 
> shouldn't be buying another bike right now, I couldn't let it go by. I 
> promised myself I'd sell some other bike stuff ASAP.
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 12:42:09 PM UTC-10, Christopher Murray 
> wrote:
>>
>> Looking over the Joe Appaloosa on the Blug and it looks like a great 
>> bike. The pre-order price is a great deal. Anyone pull the trigger and 
>> order one? I am guessing they won't last long- only 4 55cms left!!!
>>
>> I missed the Clem but am thinking seriously about this one.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Chris
>>
>>

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[RBW] Anyone order a Joe?

[William R.]

Hey Chris, how did you find out how many 55's were left? Is that posted 
somewhere or did you talk to Riv? Just wondering because those would be 
interesting numbers to know. I wonder if Riv would/could extend quantities to, 
say 20 in certain sizes if 10 sold really fast. I also wonder what would happen 
if they did not sell 10 in any sizes. How that would effect things.

-Bill (wondering in Westchester, NY)

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[RBW] Re: Rohloff IGH Questions

[Nick Payne]

I retrofitted a Litespeed Blue Ridge with a Rohloff hub about 17 years ago 
- I think my hub serial number is in the 2000s. It's never given me any 
problems, and has been toured on extensively, including several trips in 
Europe. It's definitely noisier in most gears than a well-adjusted 
derailleur setup, and vibration can be felt in several gears as well, but I 
don't think the efficiency is much different. When I started with it I used 
the recommended 46t chainring and 16t cog, but before a two month tour in 
Switzerland I swapped to a 38t chainring, which turned out to be a good 
choice, as we went up quite a few climbs with gradients like this:


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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[R Michaels]

Not sure what the 0003 is because I ordered (a 55) on the 28th and my 
receipt has the same number.  I,m plenty stoked as well as it will be my 
first Rivendell.  Looking forward to seeing the color and other specifics.  
R.

On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 4:36:50 AM UTC-7, William R. wrote:
>
> Everything about the Joe works for me so I went ahead and pulled that 
> trigger on a 55! If I am reading the receipt correctly (there is a 0003 on 
> there) I got the third one or the third 55?
>
> I don't have any problem waiting to March to get it. The little mysteries 
> of the design, color and parts that remain are just fuel on the 
> anticipation fire that will warm me all winter!
>
> Bill (stoked in Westchester, NY)
>
>

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[RBW] Rohloff IGH Questions

[Patrick Moore]

Curious: Since modern derailleur drivetrains are so amazingly reliable -- I
can speak with certainty of 9 speeds and with some confidence about 10
speeds, and these both frictioned and indexed -- what is the value of
Rohloff if you are not doing a world tour?

I'm curious as an onlooker -- I have no desire to buy a Rohloff or, for
that matter, an 11-speed derailleur drivetrain -- about the pluses and
minuses in both columns.

Now, IGHs -- that's another matter. I can easily see myself getting 2 or 3
speed wheels to supplement the fixed wheels on my customs. But for more
than that, after researching and pondering the options, I just can't see
that IGHs trump derailleurs for the sort of riding most of us do, whether
on- or off-road. My (Chauncey! What's happening!)
God-willing-shortly-forthcoming "road bike for dirt" will have a 1X9 +
granny ring.

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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[Patrick D Kelly]

I've jumped in. Ordered a 55. The thing that worries me is that my PBH is 
87, right on the line between 55 and 58. Any thoughts on if I should try to 
switch over to size 58? The sizes are so close it probably won't make any 
real diff except for the single/double top tube (I lean more towards having 
single TT, but having double wouldn't be horrible). It's not like the 
difference between a medium clem and large clem. :) But I'm still worried 
that the 58 would be the better size.

This will be my first rivbike. I've lusted after them for years, and 
seriously contemplated both the hunqapillar and the sam hillborne. When the 
Joe showed up, I recognized it as the one made for me. Even though I 
shouldn't be buying another bike right now, I couldn't let it go by. I 
promised myself I'd sell some other bike stuff ASAP.



On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 12:42:09 PM UTC-10, Christopher Murray wrote:
>
> Looking over the Joe Appaloosa on the Blug and it looks like a great bike. 
> The pre-order price is a great deal. Anyone pull the trigger and order one? 
> I am guessing they won't last long- only 4 55cms left!!!
>
> I missed the Clem but am thinking seriously about this one.
>
> Cheers!
> Chris
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[Tommy Jarvis]

Looks great. What kind of tires di you have there?

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm STT Sam Hillborne complete

[Jeff B]

Price reduced to $1299

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 10:56:31 AM UTC-4, Jeff B wrote:
>
> Price reduced to $1450, bike is in DC metro area. Details here: 
>
> http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bik/5280862199.html

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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[William R.]

Ah, I see, thanks David!

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto 25.4mm Moustache Bar

[drew]

Out of curiosity, do you run road levers or mtb style levers on the 25.4 version

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[RBW] Possible trade: my 64QB for your 62?

[Michael Williams]

hey group,  just wondering if anyone feels that their 62 Quickbeam is a little 
small?   Might be interested in trading for an orange( the fastest color) 64 
Quickbeam?   Just testing the waters.   Thanks!   -Mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[James Warren]

Dark red is what it needs to be.-Original Message-
From: Robert Bolesta 
Sent: Oct 31, 2015 1:46 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

I've been interested in the Joe since they posted those two prototypes. But, I'd rather build it up myself, and, bummer about the color! Why not that beautiful dark red like the proto? I'm really into the Joe, though. I've been dying to own a bike that can take 50s + fenders, and that has lots of eyelets, etc!On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 4:29:20 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:Yep, I'm the opposite.  I'm usually willing to pay whatever things cost, and don't need another Rivendell, but those handlebars are the draw all on their own.  The fact that a kickass bike comes attached to those irresistible handlebars is gravy.  On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 12:18:34 PM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote:I'm always tempted by a deal and I've been eyeing a riv.  But not digging those handlebars.On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 3:42:09 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:Looking over the Joe Appaloosa on the Blug and it looks like a great bike. The pre-order price is a great deal. Anyone pull the trigger and order one? I am guessing they won't last long- only 4 55cms left!!!I missed the Clem but am thinking seriously about this one.Cheers!Chris



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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto 25.4mm Moustache Bar

[David Banzer]

The only difference is the clamp diameter between the 25.4 & 26.0. 
Everything else is the same.
David
Chicago

On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 5:55:34 PM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>
> Out of curiosity, do you run road levers or mtb style levers on the 25.4 
> version

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[Lynne Cooney]

I'm not a fan of red bikes, but I would prefer orange. 

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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[David Banzer]

Add a bunch (10 or more) to the cart and it'll let you know how many are in 
stock.
David
Chicago

On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 7:09:21 PM UTC-5, William R. wrote:
>
> Hey Chris, how did you find out how many 55's were left? Is that posted 
> somewhere or did you talk to Riv? Just wondering because those would be 
> interesting numbers to know. I wonder if Riv would/could extend quantities 
> to, say 20 in certain sizes if 10 sold really fast. I also wonder what 
> would happen if they did not sell 10 in any sizes. How that would effect 
> things.
>
> -Bill (wondering in Westchester, NY)
>

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[RBW] Re: 1985 trek 870 rivified and rebuilt

[ant ritchey]

jeeelousy

On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 6:21:47 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
>
> i posted about a 30$ trek 870 frame/fork i found earlier this year HERE 
> .
>  
>  
>
> 
> boredom, and the fact that ive never been able to abide a true beater, 
> turned it into a project that was helped out by several people in the group 
> who supplied parts, so i figured i'd share how it turned out. 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
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> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[R Michaels]

At first I wasn't sure about the bars but warmed to them very quickly and 
hope they will work out OK as I did order a 55.  I don't think the 0003 
number on the receipt has to do with who ordered in order because my 
receipt also has the 0003 on it and I ordered on the 28th.
R.

On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 3:42:09 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
>
> Looking over the Joe Appaloosa on the Blug and it looks like a great bike. 
> The pre-order price is a great deal. Anyone pull the trigger and order one? 
> I am guessing they won't last long- only 4 55cms left!!!
>
> I missed the Clem but am thinking seriously about this one.
>
> Cheers!
> Chris
>
>

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[RBW] WTT/B

[Abcyclehank]

Need a Bosco Bullmoose 54cm for wife's Clementine; have a used 58cm to trade.  
Also nitto parts, bags galore, other options.  Give me a holler off-line.

Ryan
North Muskegon, MI

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