Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[Patrick Moore]

I must keep an eye on those "Adventure Pants." I also have to keep a rein
on my spending, but the Alitta pants I got at GW t'other day made me think
that perhaps I'd like something a bit heavier than the Rock Bros. Alas, the
Alittas are L, and, after riding in them yesterday and finding it hard
despite the velcro shin strap to keep the right leg off the chain, they'll
go to my bigger little brother, and just perhaps I'll get the REIs or
perhaps the Alittas in Med.

I owned a pair of MUSA knickers and the original pants. I can put up with
no zip fly, but I found the waist cut far too low -- uncomfortable when I
ride  on the hoods. But I did like the look - trim but not tight -- and the
fabric weight was just right.

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Patrick Kelly  wrote:

> While I wasn't totally satisfied with the musa knickers I had briefly,
> they did convince me that nylon is good for riding pants. For me, I
> like REI's "adventure pants"
> (http://www.rei.com/product/877606/rei-adventures-pants-mens-32-inseam).
> I have 2 pairs which I alternate almost continuously.
>
> They're a good weight of nylon, maybe not as thick as musa, and well
> designed. Actually, REI changes specs sometimes (from year to year, I
> think), so some years the weight is not right. When I found that this
> years batch was good, I bought my current 2 pairs. (I've "outgrown" my
> other pair.) Pretty easy to roll up the cuffs to create that knicker
> effect.  Grin.
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Garth  wrote:
> >
> >For anyone fretting over the clothing not being made anymore, there
> are
> > many people , family, friends, professionals, who can replicate your
> > favorite pants, shorts etc.  Good fabric can be bought online, as well as
> > all the fittings etc.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[Patrick Moore]

O my, another choice!

David: how do these Royce Peak pants feel when you are bending over in the
hooks? Do they give you that awful "there's a draft back there" feeling?

One nice thing about the Alittas is that they have an elasticized waist,
but also belt loops.

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 2:58 PM, David Person  wrote:

> I love these Columbia Royce Peak Cargo pants.  Great weight.  With my
> wife's help we made a couple pairs into shorts, which I use for riding in
> most of the time, using the full length pants for everyday wear and on bike
> wear when it's cold enough to warrant long pants.  When you can catch them
> on sale at Amazon they are a great deal.  I've picked them up for as low as
> $35 a pair.
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Columbia-Royce-Peak-Cargo-Pant/dp/B00GWNGMTW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1454795671=8-1=royce+peak+cargo
>
> On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 12:25:10 PM UTC-8, Patrick D Kelly wrote:
>>
>> While I wasn't totally satisfied with the musa knickers I had briefly,
>> they did convince me that nylon is good for riding pants. For me, I
>> like REI's "adventure pants"
>> (http://www.rei.com/product/877606/rei-adventures-pants-mens-32-inseam).
>> I have 2 pairs which I alternate almost continuously.
>>
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[RBW] Chainstay protector

[Joe Bernard]

Perfect, I actually own these products! Black cloth on Clem green, twined at 
both ends and shellacked? That'll work. Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[Patrick Moore]

It's just right from about 45*F down to 30*F if it's not windy, over a Wabi
Woolens LS jersey. The high button neck keeps me from getting sore throats;
with other garments I use a scarf. I recently bought my first real cycling
jacket in years, of midweight fabrick, high collar, etc, but tho' this is
nice in wind, I find that, even below freezing and layered over just one
jersey, I start to sweat after a few miles. The tweed jersey is warm but
breathes and, like other wool, adapts to a far greater range of temps.

I scored the tweed, 4 ss wool jerseys including a very appealing Cycles
Wolfe Bienne retro copy with both rear and *front *pockets and a retro
Raleigh jersey, a pair of wool cycling shorts, and a (too small, alas) pair
of Euro wool cycling tights, for $120 or so from John Stamstadt who was
selling the bunch several years ago.

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 2:01 PM, William deRosset 
wrote:

> >But I love my woolywarm ragg "overjersey" -- like a heavy sweater in
> cyclists' jersey cut -- and the Rivendell ls "regular" jerseys were very
> nice; in fact, I had one >that was too long and too wide. I tried to shrink
> it a bit, finally washing it on "hot" and drying it on "cottons" -- no
> luck, it didn't shrink a bit. I gave it to my (larger) >brother.
>
> Dear Patrick
>
> That tweed wool jersey was the best clothing item Rivendell ever produced,
> and I've owned a fair amount of their stuff. Right weight, machine
> washable, good club cut, reasonable arm length for cycling, pockets in
> exactly the right spot, button neck. It was not easily improved, and it was
> my favorite winter item for a decade.
>
> I should have bought a second one, as I eventually tore a hole in the body
> and foolishly sent it to Alex Clarke (Woolistic) to get rewoven. They
> misplaced it (along with my DC randonneurs jersey, and a the Ktena black
> wool jersey I took to PBP 2011) and flat refused to do anything about it.
>
> Best,
>
> Will
>
> William M. deRosset
> Fort Collins, CO
>
> On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 10:38:49 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> New entry yesterday says that MUSA items will be cut back because they
>> are cash flow killers. I have mixed feelings; on the one hand, I can find
>> cycling clothing that, if not better overall, is certainly better for my
>> uses, in many other places (eg, instead of MUSA pants, which I've owned,
>> the Alitta pants I got (at GW, but they are available on sale online for
>> $49) fit and feel better and *have a gdamn zip fly!!!*
>>
>> But I love my woolywarm ragg "overjersey" -- like a heavy sweater in
>> cyclists' jersey cut -- and the Rivendell ls "regular" jerseys were very
>> nice; in fact, I had one that was too long and too wide. I tried to shrink
>> it a bit, finally washing it on "hot" and drying it on "cottons" -- no
>> luck, it didn't shrink a bit. I gave it to my (larger) brother.
>>
>> But Crapmanship! What a nice notion! It reminds me of the gear I made in
>> high school from very primitive materials: push gocart of which the wheels
>> were sections I sawed by hand from logs, with tires strips of large tin can
>> nailed to the wood. The knife I made from an old bolt by heating it red and
>> hammering it flat, then shaping it with a file. The "brass" repousse work
>> made from other tin cans with brass colored interior, cut into strips,
>> hammered, and nailed to the firecracker guns I made: one musket and one
>> pistol. I'm very glad we had no internet back then; hell, we didn't even
>> have TV where we lived.
>>
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>>
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>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[Garth]

Check out Railriders pants and shorts too.  The x-treme adventure pànt has 
velcro cuffs, their oher styles do not. 

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[RBW] Re: Hunq Effective TT

[Leslie]

I find it interesting that the Hunq is "being 650b'd", which really puts it 
into the Bombadil slot  

On Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 3:52:54 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>
> Yes it is to be redesigned, but this chart is for the current/original 
> one.  I hope they post such blueprints for all thèir frames.

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[RBW] Chainstay protector

[Joe Bernard]

What's the preferred method around these parts for protecting the stay from 
chain slap?

Thanks,
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

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[RBW] Re: Albatross vs Choco bar (A photo comparison)

[drew]

Looks like the content is gone here. Got my chocos today. To my measurements, 
they are swept back about 2-3cm further than albatross bars. unmounted, they 
seem very long, but I guess you get a lot more useable grip area that way. I 
never found the curves of albatross' to be useable. The curves of these seem 
more comfortably positioned. As grant described, the rise/drop is negligable, 
though I think I'll try them in the downward position. Interested to see how 
the length works with bar end shifters. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[Patrick Kelly]

While I wasn't totally satisfied with the musa knickers I had briefly,
they did convince me that nylon is good for riding pants. For me, I
like REI's "adventure pants"
(http://www.rei.com/product/877606/rei-adventures-pants-mens-32-inseam).
I have 2 pairs which I alternate almost continuously.

They're a good weight of nylon, maybe not as thick as musa, and well
designed. Actually, REI changes specs sometimes (from year to year, I
think), so some years the weight is not right. When I found that this
years batch was good, I bought my current 2 pairs. (I've "outgrown" my
other pair.) Pretty easy to roll up the cuffs to create that knicker
effect.  Grin.

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>
>For anyone fretting over the clothing not being made anymore, there are
> many people , family, friends, professionals, who can replicate your
> favorite pants, shorts etc.  Good fabric can be bought online, as well as
> all the fittings etc.
>
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[RBW] Re: No free electronic version of RR #44?

[Leslie]

I'd love to have a copy, paper or digital;   but at the moment, I'm not 
buying a lot, and it said that it would be in connection w/ purchases   

What I think would be interesting/fair/neat, is to have it as paper-only, 
until the next one comes out, at which point this one goes digital, etc. 
etc..



On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 2:32:58 AM UTC-5, eliu01 wrote:
>
> At http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/rr.htm and, I think, in older posts 
> here Grant said that starting with RR #42 that future issues would be 
> available for free as a PDF.  Anyone know if the same will apply to RR #44?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric Liu
> SF, CA
>

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[RBW] Chainstay protector

[drew]

Newbaums and shellac works and looks nice

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[RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[William deRosset]

>But I love my woolywarm ragg "overjersey" -- like a heavy sweater in 
cyclists' jersey cut -- and the Rivendell ls "regular" jerseys were very 
nice; in fact, I had one >that was too long and too wide. I tried to shrink 
it a bit, finally washing it on "hot" and drying it on "cottons" -- no 
luck, it didn't shrink a bit. I gave it to my (larger) >brother.

Dear Patrick

That tweed wool jersey was the best clothing item Rivendell ever produced, 
and I've owned a fair amount of their stuff. Right weight, machine 
washable, good club cut, reasonable arm length for cycling, pockets in 
exactly the right spot, button neck. It was not easily improved, and it was 
my favorite winter item for a decade. 

I should have bought a second one, as I eventually tore a hole in the body 
and foolishly sent it to Alex Clarke (Woolistic) to get rewoven. They 
misplaced it (along with my DC randonneurs jersey, and a the Ktena black 
wool jersey I took to PBP 2011) and flat refused to do anything about it.

Best,

Will

William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO

On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 10:38:49 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> New entry yesterday says that MUSA items will be cut back because they are 
> cash flow killers. I have mixed feelings; on the one hand, I can find 
> cycling clothing that, if not better overall, is certainly better for my 
> uses, in many other places (eg, instead of MUSA pants, which I've owned, 
> the Alitta pants I got (at GW, but they are available on sale online for 
> $49) fit and feel better and *have a gdamn zip fly!!!* 
>
> But I love my woolywarm ragg "overjersey" -- like a heavy sweater in 
> cyclists' jersey cut -- and the Rivendell ls "regular" jerseys were very 
> nice; in fact, I had one that was too long and too wide. I tried to shrink 
> it a bit, finally washing it on "hot" and drying it on "cottons" -- no 
> luck, it didn't shrink a bit. I gave it to my (larger) brother.
>
> But Crapmanship! What a nice notion! It reminds me of the gear I made in 
> high school from very primitive materials: push gocart of which the wheels 
> were sections I sawed by hand from logs, with tires strips of large tin can 
> nailed to the wood. The knife I made from an old bolt by heating it red and 
> hammering it flat, then shaping it with a file. The "brass" repousse work 
> made from other tin cans with brass colored interior, cut into strips, 
> hammered, and nailed to the firecracker guns I made: one musket and one 
> pistol. I'm very glad we had no internet back then; hell, we didn't even 
> have TV where we lived.
>
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>
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>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[Robert Barr]

I with you Deacon. The knicks are my Spring and Fall favorites!

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> I live in MUSA knickers (breeches for you UK lot who are currently
> snickering. Grin.) and mine are already several years old and sporting
> myriad patches. Sadly, I learned from Riv yesterday that no large
> knickers/breeches remain. No one else makes baggy knickers with a
> sweatpants waist, but I'll be asking my wife to figure out how.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 10:38:49 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> New entry yesterday says that MUSA items will be cut back because they
>> are cash flow killers.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[David Person]

I love these Columbia Royce Peak Cargo pants.  Great weight.  With my 
wife's help we made a couple pairs into shorts, which I use for riding in 
most of the time, using the full length pants for everyday wear and on bike 
wear when it's cold enough to warrant long pants.  When you can catch them 
on sale at Amazon they are a great deal.  I've picked them up for as low as 
$35 a pair.

http://www.amazon.com/Columbia-Royce-Peak-Cargo-Pant/dp/B00GWNGMTW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1454795671=8-1=royce+peak+cargo

On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 12:25:10 PM UTC-8, Patrick D Kelly wrote:
>
> While I wasn't totally satisfied with the musa knickers I had briefly, 
> they did convince me that nylon is good for riding pants. For me, I 
> like REI's "adventure pants" 
> (http://www.rei.com/product/877606/rei-adventures-pants-mens-32-inseam). 
> I have 2 pairs which I alternate almost continuously. 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Any new hubs/technologies out there?

[Mike Shaljian]

That does seem like the ideal way to go. Could you post a picture of your 
custom mount?

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[RBW] Re: No free electronic version of RR #44?

[Joe Bernard]

"Buy with parts order" is no longer applicable. Riv conjured up a separate 
magazine shipping price of $3.00 to order just the reader, so it's 10 bucks out 
the door. Also, the new BLUG says there will eventually be an electronic 
version. 

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[RBW] Re: "My first Roadeo" and chainline/BB question

[Rod Holland]

Try the ELs sometime... you've tasted the apples, time for the oranges.

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[RBW] Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[WETH]

I love the MUSA shorts and pants!  I understand the business decision, but I 
will be sad when I wear out my current inventory.  I may need to add another 
pair of shorts to inventory.
Also in this latest post, Grant reiterated his devotion to his 60cm Cheviot.  I 
had read his praise for this model before and, partly based on that, I ordered 
a green 60cm Cheviot frame. (Orange may be faster, but Grant rides a green! :) 
)  I am excited to see how it handles and rides and more curious to see which 
bikes(s) it replaces from my now too large collection.
Erl

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[RBW] SOLD: HERON Touring 55cm complete build

[MartyG]

Happy to say the bike is sold and was picked up today. Thanks to everyone 
who expressed interest, and to the new owner who made the drive down from 
Philly to meet. This beautiful Heron will see many more miles. 

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[RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[Deacon Patrick]

I live in MUSA knickers (breeches for you UK lot who are currently 
snickering. Grin.) and mine are already several years old and sporting 
myriad patches. Sadly, I learned from Riv yesterday that no large 
knickers/breeches remain. No one else makes baggy knickers with a 
sweatpants waist, but I'll be asking my wife to figure out how.

With abandon,
Patrick

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> New entry yesterday says that MUSA items will be cut back because they are 
> cash flow killers. 
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[RBW] Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[Patrick Moore]

New entry yesterday says that MUSA items will be cut back because they are
cash flow killers. I have mixed feelings; on the one hand, I can find
cycling clothing that, if not better overall, is certainly better for my
uses, in many other places (eg, instead of MUSA pants, which I've owned,
the Alitta pants I got (at GW, but they are available on sale online for
$49) fit and feel better and *have a gdamn zip fly!!!*

But I love my woolywarm ragg "overjersey" -- like a heavy sweater in
cyclists' jersey cut -- and the Rivendell ls "regular" jerseys were very
nice; in fact, I had one that was too long and too wide. I tried to shrink
it a bit, finally washing it on "hot" and drying it on "cottons" -- no
luck, it didn't shrink a bit. I gave it to my (larger) brother.

But Crapmanship! What a nice notion! It reminds me of the gear I made in
high school from very primitive materials: push gocart of which the wheels
were sections I sawed by hand from logs, with tires strips of large tin can
nailed to the wood. The knife I made from an old bolt by heating it red and
hammering it flat, then shaping it with a file. The "brass" repousse work
made from other tin cans with brass colored interior, cut into strips,
hammered, and nailed to the firecracker guns I made: one musket and one
pistol. I'm very glad we had no internet back then; hell, we didn't even
have TV where we lived.

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[RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[Tony DeFilippo]

A Cheviot!?! Awesome Erl, congrats.  That green looks amazing in pictures, 
I can't wait to check it out in person.  

I did like his 'crapsmanship' mora knife handle. I've seen where you can 
buy the blade only blanks online so that would be a fun project.  I won't 
miss the knickers. Given how nicely the pants can roll up above your calves 
w/ the zippers up I've always felt you can wear them that way if you want 
but still have the pants for the (most of the time) that you want them.  Of 
course there aren't any pants available right now. I am hopeful they follow 
through with another run of the moleskin shirts as I missed out on the last 
one.


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[RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[WETH]

Tony,
Thanks. I still am finishing the Romulus project. Once that's done, I will turn 
my focus to then Cheviot.  Riv was selling two Cheviot frames last week-one a 
50cm and one a 60cm-for $800 because they had arrived with mid seat stays that 
were 2mm too inboard on drive side. So they did some grinding and offered at a 
discount.  I couldn't resist!
I too hope they do a final run of the MUSA pants as I love my one and only pair.
Erl

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[RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[Garth]

   For anyone fretting over the clothing not being made anymore, there are 
many people , family, friends, professionals, who can replicate your 
favorite pants, shorts etc.  Good fabric can be bought online, as well as 
all the fittings etc.  

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[RBW] FS: Bosco non-Moose, steel, 55cm

[Joe Bernard]

Purchased recently from Riv, used fir 2 short rides, too much height and reach 
for me, going back to Albas (the only bar I seem to be able to ride). 
$60 shipped.

Joe Bernard
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[RBW] Chainstay protector

[Joe Bernard]

I found one of those in a drawer an hour after posting here..I'd completely 
forgotten I had it. It's on my CLEM now, but I'll probably end up Newbauming 
it. Those clear protectors aren't super fabulous at the job. 

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[RBW] Chainstay protector

[Lungimsam]

I use the clear chain stay protector that RBW sells. I like to not cover up the 
beautiful frame and paint.

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Re: [RBW] Chainstay protector

[Joe Bernard]

Ooh, the rubber chain slap is very cool. Is there one with clamps for stays 
without braze-ons?

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[RBW] Re: No free electronic version of RR #44?

[Edwin W]

Worth the $10, even with all the stuff I disagree with. Not that much, of 
course, if I'm on this list!!

Edwin

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[RBW] Re: Chainstay protector

[Doug Williams]

I'm using the clear stick on one that Riv sells. But I was thinking of 
doing the Newbaums and shellac thing. Is that safe for your paint if you 
ever take it off?

Doug

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> Newbaums and shellac works and looks nice

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[RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[Matthew J]

The MUSA pants are great for touring and camping.  Choose a base layer 
depending on the weather, and pull the always comfortable MUSA over.  Bonus 
that that pack so small and light you can sneak luxuries into the pannier / 
back pack you may otherwise leave home.

Probably were too well made for Riv's bottom line.  I've had mine for more 
than 6 years now.  Only noticed Riv had dropped them after a campfire* 
mishap burnt a hole in one of my two pair.  

Taylor Stitch will be coming out with some pants later this month that 
sound similar to MUSA.  According to the blurb these will also be made in 
the Bay Area.  Possibly by the same company that made MUSA?  I've got a 
pair on pre-order and my fingers crossed.

*When I camp alone I do not have camp fires.  Last September my nephew 
joined my brother and me on a trip to Glacier.  He complained about his 
knees when we hiked, watched movies on his iPhone on a perfectly clear 
night instead of walking down to Bowman Lake beach to star gaze, and 
insisted on building campfires  one of which damaged my MUSA pants.  Kids 
these days!

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[RBW] Re: NAHBS in Sacramento Feb. 26 - 28

[blakcloud]

Well I think I lied above, I have decided that I am going to NAHBS after 
all but I need a little help with logistics. 

I will be flying to San Fransisco on the Friday and making my way to 
Sacramento and I was thinking the cheapest way would be to take the train 
system from the airport. Can anyone give me any information to make my trip 
easier? I know absolutely nothing about the transit systems in California. 

I will leave Sacramento after the bike show on Sunday and make my way back 
to SF or area as I would love to go to Riv HQ and test ride the A. Homer 
Hilsen on the Monday. Then fly back to Toronto on that day or the next. 

Thanks in advance for any help in navigating that portion of my trip. 

Thomas

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[RBW] Re: Chainstay protector

[eflayer]

These are not the least bit Riv-ish, but work darn well. If they start to 
come up, I use a hair dryer to soften the adhesive and they are really nice 
and heavy plastic-y material:

http://www.amazon.com/VELO-Velo-StayTop-Kit/dp/B003UWLVWG

On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 2:57:49 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> What's the preferred method around these parts for protecting the stay 
> from chain slap?
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Bernard
> Vallejo, CA.
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Re: [RBW] Chainstay protector

[Eric Norris]

Most definitely this, if your bike is cool enough to have the braze-on mounts:

https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/components/framebuilding/rubber-chainslap-strap/
 

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> On Feb 6, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
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> What's the preferred method around these parts for protecting the stay from 
> chain slap?
> 
> Thanks,
> Joe Bernard
> Vallejo, CA.
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[RBW] Re: My CLEM finally built

[Tim Wood]

Looks sweet Joe. How do you like the ride? 

Tim

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[RBW] Headlight Charging Games

[Doug Williams]

I have two Busch & Müller Ixon Core battery powered lights that I got from 
Peter White. Yes, I love them. Great beam pattern, doesn’t blind anyone, 
and running two is plenty of light. One of the reasons that I got them is 
that I read somewhere (can’t find where now) that you can charge the light 
and run the light at the same time. Indeed, this works! I have a USB 
battery bank in my front bag plugged into the lights. I can leave the light 
on and charge it at the same time. I have successfully used this on several 
long rides where the lights otherwise would have run out. I have run them 
for over 10 hours on high power and the lights stayed on the whole time. My 
Zendure battery pack was only ¼ down in power, so I suppose I could run 
them continuously on high power this way for 40 hours??? I haven’t tried 
because that seems silly, but maybe I’ll have to do it…For Science!


The Ixon Core lights are mounted on my Mark’s rack and plugged into the 
Zendure battery pack in my Sackville TrunkSack Small. I just leave them 
like that always. I even rigged rain proof booties made from a cut up inner 
tube for the Ixon’s so that the charging port can’t get wet in the rain 
(even with the USB plug inserted into the light).

I plug the battery pack into a USB wall charger when I get home. The 
Zendure has a “charge through” capability so the battery pack charges 
itself and the lights at the same time. In the morning, I’m ready for 
another day of riding. I just leave the lights on continuously during my 
rides day or night because…well…because I can and why not have daytime 
running lights? I can also use the battery pack to charge my phone and use 
it for navigation (which otherwise runs down the phone battery rather 
quickly).

The Ixon Core lights are plenty good for 95% of my riding, but I would like 
to have a more powerful light mounted on my handlebars for use as a high 
beam when I’m riding through the woods at night. The Ixon Core’s are a 
little dicey by themselves in that situation, especially on a fast descent.


Anyway, I was told that this “light up and charge at the same time trick” 
will NOT work for many other lights. Specifically, I was told that the 
Light & Motion Urban 800FC Headlight can’t do this and that it turns off as 
soon as the charger is plugged in (according to an Amazon customer who 
answered my question). Hmmm…I’m testing it now with a Cygolight Streak 350 
USB that I have. Seems to be working…at least the light didn’t turn off 
right away when I plugged it into the battery pack. I’ll have to let it run 
for a while and see what happens.


So now I’m wondering what other lights this works for and which ones it 
doesn’t work for. I guess it doesn’t really matter because I would use the 
third bright light only as a High Beam for short periods when I really need 
it. I’m not going to leave it continuously on and blind people.


So…has anybody else tried something like this…successfully or otherwise? 
Which lights work and which ones don't?


Doug


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Re: [RBW] Re: NAHBS in Sacramento Feb. 26 - 28

[Eric Norris]

Unfortunately, light rail is still years away from going to the airport. Your 
best bet would be a taxi or Uber to get downtown … and once you get there, the 
transit choices are going to be far less that what you’re used to in Toronto. 
You’ll need to walk a lot or check the bus schedules to get around town.

Getting from Sacramento to SF is easier. You can take Amtrak from the downtown 
station to Richmond and connect with BART, which goes right into downtown San 
Francisco (where you’ll find more familiar transit options). There’s a BART 
stop fairly close to Rivendell—check their system maps and timetables online.

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> On Feb 6, 2016, at 8:15 PM, blakcloud  wrote:
> 
> Well I think I lied above, I have decided that I am going to NAHBS after all 
> but I need a little help with logistics. 
> 
> I will be flying to San Fransisco on the Friday and making my way to 
> Sacramento and I was thinking the cheapest way would be to take the train 
> system from the airport. Can anyone give me any information to make my trip 
> easier? I know absolutely nothing about the transit systems in California. 
> 
> I will leave Sacramento after the bike show on Sunday and make my way back to 
> SF or area as I would love to go to Riv HQ and test ride the A. Homer Hilsen 
> on the Monday. Then fly back to Toronto on that day or the next. 
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help in navigating that portion of my trip. 
> 
> Thomas
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[RBW] Re: My CLEM finally built

[Joe Bernard]

It's magic, Tim. I've done a bunch of commuter builds of old mountain bikes, 
which was the basis for the CLEM idea, but they always end up with a high BB 
and weird-for-the-street steering. This baby rides like a Rolls and turns like 
a Porsche, which shouldn't both be possible in one bike.  It's awesome!

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[RBW] Re: No free electronic version of RR #44?

[Garth]

All the money in the world does not buy a single moment, it never has and never 
will.  One moment alone is priceless, Infinite.  Nothing else can come closè, 
for here is nothing else .

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