[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

[Lungimsam]

SunXCD rear derailer.
Its all silver.

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[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

[Joe Bernard]

I'd like to try one of those clutch derailers Shimano makes that prevents 
chain-slap. There's a tiny wrench under a cover which you use to adjust how how 
strong the friction is. I have no idea how this actually works, I just think 
it's hilarious you can buy a derailer with a wrench inside ;)

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[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

[sameness]

Agreed on whimsy and anti-snobbery, but if your bike was mine, I'd spend 
the same twenty-whatever bucks on a gently used M737/739 and hope that I 
get summoned in a seance 100 years from now so I can check in on it.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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[RBW] Rear derailer on my Hillborne

[Joe Bernard]

I get the whimsy and anti-derailer-snobbery that GP sees in the Altus, but I 
don't think I could bring myself to put one on a nice bike like your Sam. It 
makes more sense to me on the complete CLEM builds, which are intended to be a 
budget entry into Rivbikes. My thinking there is that you would gradually 
up-spec the bike as parts wear out or - as in your case - get jammed up. 
Shimano XTs are fabulous mechs. 

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[RBW] Re: SOLD Re: FS: Low Trail Hunqapillar Frame/Fork/SP/HS size 58 - $1,300 OBO + shipping

[René Sterental]

I'll be waiting for photos and a full report!

René

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016, Brian Campbell 
wrote:

> Looking forward to its arrival.  Build detailsThunder Burts, 2.1,  vintage
> 8 Speed Shimano XT drive train, triple crank and  thumb shifters,  silver
> XT V brakes, lugged nitto post/lugged nitto stem with nitto Nordeast
> handlebars,(I also have the silver, Riv Bullmoose option) well worn Brooks
> B-17 special, Shimano A719 rims to deore hubs, The first incarnation will
> be for off road use. No fenders. This is going to be fun!
>
> On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 12:13:38 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:
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>>  Very pretty bike and canti bonus for easy rackability and fenderability!
>> Jackpot!
>> Bet it takes 3 minutes to install a rack, tops.
>>
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[RBW] Re: SOLD Re: FS: Low Trail Hunqapillar Frame/Fork/SP/HS size 58 - $1,300 OBO + shipping

[Brian Campbell]

Looking forward to its arrival.  Build detailsThunder Burts, 2.1,  vintage 
8 Speed Shimano XT drive train, triple crank and  thumb shifters,  silver 
XT V brakes, lugged nitto post/lugged nitto stem with nitto Nordeast 
handlebars,(I also have the silver, Riv Bullmoose option) well worn Brooks 
B-17 special, Shimano A719 rims to deore hubs, The first incarnation will 
be for off road use. No fenders. This is going to be fun!

On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 12:13:38 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:
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>  Very pretty bike and canti bonus for easy rackability and fenderability! 
> Jackpot!
> Bet it takes 3 minutes to install a rack, tops.
>
>
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[RBW] Rear derailer on my Hillborne

[Surlyprof]

Riding my canti-Hillborne to work today, my pedals came to a very abrupt stop.  
One of the chain links popped and hooked the rear cage.  Not as bad as Grant's 
incident on the blug but my trusty LX is now a severly damaged single speed 
limping home tonight (after replacing the chain).  I thought I'd run up to RBW 
HQ tomorrow to buy a replacement.  Now I'm faced with the choice between the XT 
shadow and Grant's currently favored Altus.  I've always had great success with 
xtr and xt's in the past (and, until today, this lx).  Before I go, I'd love to 
solicit the thoughts and experiences of the group.  I haven't bought and 
installed a replacement derailleur in many years so any feedback is greatly 
appreciated.

Thanks.
John
Niles, CA

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[RBW] Re: Santa Barbara Mini Tour Ride Report.

[Bob Ehrenbeck]

What Erl said! Looks like you had great scenery, weather, and company.


Bob E

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 5:13:01 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:
>
> Hugh,
> Gorgeous photos and excellent write-up.  I am quite jealous of you West 
> coast folks this time of year.  Sharing a bike adventure with your brothers 
> is a great idea.
> Thanks for sharing.
> Erl
> Ps: I look forward to more photos of your Hilsen

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[RBW] Re: ROSCO mailing list

[drew]

This is really cool and one of the reasons I love rivendell. Who else would be 
making a small run of misfit bikes from the forks out? I'm hoping for a 
tricycle with at least 3 crisscrossing diagatubes and 9 bottle cage mounts.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

[Patrick Moore]

Now now -- though I believe a little well considered spitefulness is
sometimes a work of mercy.

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 2:59 PM, sameness  wrote:

> So what size wheels are on your Magna?
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 1:53:05 PM UTC-8, Garth wrote:
>>
>>
>>   Theories abound, everyone has them and yet no one knows the Truth.
>> There is a reason why theories are called theories !  No man knows or can
>> know the Absolute , Truth .
>>
>> Just ride what you Love , with Love.  Pay no mind,  funny how everything
>> turns out just perfect in spite of all the theories and thought put
>> together.
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Re: [RBW] 3 very nice bikes at Stevie's Happy Bikes in Corrales, NM

[Patrick Moore]

I'm just passing the temptation along to y'all, hee hee hee.

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[RBW] Re: ROSCO mailing list

[Bill Lindsay]

Not all the spare forks have canti-studs.  I'd speculate that the forks 
with canti-studs will be mated to frames with canti-studs.  The forks with 
only sidepull or centerpull support will probably be mated with frames with 
the same capability.  

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 4:59:20 PM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:
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> All the above plus canti studs

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[RBW] Reviews and/or photos of Big Ben 700c X 55 tires?

[Mike Shaljian]

I've put on probably 400 miles on my Big Ones (all urban commuting) and they 
seem stout enough to me, at least when run as tubeless. I had ridden Super 
Motos before and while a quality, serviceable tire, the Big One is much more 
supple and easy rolling, even with the Snakeskin sidewall. It does seem like 
the tread compound is a bit less grippy and also they seem to be more finicky 
with pressure. They handle a bit oddly if underinflated. All in all, they seem 
like a great choice to me for a reasonably durable tire that is actually really 
fun to ride. They key to it all is running it tubeless, I'm pretty sure.I wish 
that Compass would make the Rat Trap Pass in 700C because I'm sure it'd be even 
better, but it seems like the best of the lot right now, if you can fit it. 

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[RBW] Re: [socalallrounders] Re: Strada Rossa March 19th... you all are invited!

[cyclotourist]

Those should be great. Any sort of fast 35mm CX tire will fit the bill.
There are a few sections of sand, but I rode them with Challenge Eroicas
(smooth 32mm) and while it sapped some energy, didn't stall me out. The
rest is really hard pack. Minimal rocky sections.

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Dave C 
wrote:

> Based on the comments from Dave and Mike, I think I will put 35 mm cross
> knobbies on her Romulus and have her test them out.
>
> I have a WTB Cross Boss that should fit its clearances.
>
>
> 
>
>
> On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 7:32:27 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>>
>> David, sorry to not have replied to you sooner... life happens sometimes.
>>
>> I'm ecstatic you and your wife can make it! It's practically in your back
>> yard, right! The 100km is the signature event, so it's the one to shoot for
>> in my opinion!
>>
>> You brought up two related question. The first is about your tires. The
>> Nano/Knard combo will be fine. Anything more than 40mm is unnecessary.
>> As the second question is about bikes/tires, I'll add that like Mike
>> mentioned, some light knobbie tread will be really appreciated. So
>> whichever bike she brings I think she'll be happier with the tire that has
>> some knobs. That and whichever frame she will be most comfortable on for
>> six+ hours. Oh, and gearing for hills.
>>
>> I don't think goatheads are going to be a big problem. I've been
>> pre-riding with my my road bike on Challenge Eroicas, which are pretty thin
>> rubber. No problems. So don't choose a tire just for puncture resistance.
>> Pick the tire for the terrain: 30 miles of roads, and 30 miles of hardpack.
>> A few short sand sections. As insurance, taking out the valve core and
>> putting a couple ounces of Stans wouldn't hurt at all. I'd do that before
>> tire liners. In fact, that is what I do!
>>
>> So don't know if that helped clear things up for you. I hope some.
>> Anything else, definitely let me know!
>>
>> Was out in the hills today, and it's beautiful!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 6:34 PM, 'Mike Schiller' via SoCal All Rounders
>> (SCAR)  wrote:
>>
>>> I rode it two years ago on Hetres.  They were very fast but less stable
>>> in the singletrack sections and my background is MTB racing. This time I'm
>>> going to run a low knobbed tire like the Panaracer 40mm Gravelking.I
>>> think your wife would better off on the Romulus with some 36-38mm low knob
>>> tires than the Glorius.
>>>
>>> I'll be riding the 100km course as well.
>>>
>>> ~mike
>>> Carlsbad Ca
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 2:42:08 PM UTC-8, David Carroll wrote:

 David, everybody,

 Just registered my wife and I for the 100km. We thought about the
 English century, but we have to arrange babysitting and bring the kids down
 to Redlands. A hundred miler might take too much time. Probably my mom (KC)
 and dad will participate in the half-metric event.

 I've never been on the course, but it seems these trails around there
 are a bit smoother than our fire roads, which are rutted, rocky things that
 most people tackle with 29ers, Jeeps, and lifted trucks. Would a 41 mm
 Knard / 40 mm Nano combo on my Soma Double Cross be fine? Not overkill, I
 hope. My wife has to decide between her Glorius, Romulus, or 29er. She has
 Hetres on the Glorius, and if she takes it I thought we might want to put
 in tire liners. I don't get a ton of thorns here in the San Gabriels, but I
 hear goat heads are more common around Redlands.

 Any suggestions would be appreciated. We like to ride fast and light
 when possible, but I'm not looking to get any "under-biking awards"  :)

 Dave in Wrightwood



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>
>
> http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com/2015/11/were-putting-stake-in-it-march-19-2016.html
>
> A very Rivendell-friendly event! Hope to see some of you there!
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[RBW] Re: ROSCO mailing list

[Ron Mc]

All the above plus canti studs

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[RBW] Re: 3 very nice bikes at Stevie's Happy Bikes in Corrales, NM

[Frank Brose]

Serious? You had to post this and give me one more thing to think about 
bicycle related. I'll try to turn this into an exercise in self control.

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 3:09:03 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> WHY YOU DO THIS, PATRICK? That Raleigh would be useless on my big hill, 
> and would probably put me in traction carrying it upstairs to my apartment, 
> but JUST LOOK AT IT. Ok, I'm gonna stop looking at it now. One more peek...

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Re: [RBW] Possible FS: Raleigh Superbe in NorCal

[Eric Norris]

Seat tube is 58cm C-T, but remember that the bike has 26” wheels, which lowers 
things a bit. I’m 6’ and wear pants with a 33” inseam, and it fits me fine.

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> On Feb 16, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> 
> Size?
> 
> On 02/16/2016 06:52 PM, Eric Norris wrote:
>> In case anybody’s interested, I have a vintage Raleigh Superbe that looks to 
>> be in better condition than the one at Patrick’s shop:
>> 
>> https://flic.kr/p/i88qEA  
>> 
>> I haven’t really considered selling it, but I’m not riding it and I may let 
>> it go to someone who will get some sunlight in the spokes.
>> 
>> I don’t want to disassemble the bike for shipping, so this would be for 
>> pickup in the Sacramento/SF region only.
>> 
>> If this sounds interesting, PM me and I’ll share my phone number so we can 
>> discuss.
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Possible FS: Raleigh Superbe in NorCal

[Steve Palincsar]

Size?

On 02/16/2016 06:52 PM, Eric Norris wrote:
In case anybody’s interested, I have a vintage Raleigh Superbe that 
looks to be in better condition than the one at Patrick’s shop:


https://flic.kr/p/i88qEA

I haven’t really considered selling it, but I’m not riding it and I 
may let it go to someone who will get some sunlight in the spokes.


I don’t want to disassemble the bike for shipping, so this would be 
for pickup in the Sacramento/SF region only.


If this sounds interesting, PM me and I’ll share my phone number so we 
can discuss.




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[RBW] Possible FS: Raleigh Superbe in NorCal

[Eric Norris]

In case anybody’s interested, I have a vintage Raleigh Superbe that looks to be 
in better condition than the one at Patrick’s shop:

https://flic.kr/p/i88qEA  

I haven’t really considered selling it, but I’m not riding it and I may let it 
go to someone who will get some sunlight in the spokes.

I don’t want to disassemble the bike for shipping, so this would be for pickup 
in the Sacramento/SF region only.

If this sounds interesting, PM me and I’ll share my phone number so we can 
discuss.

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> 
> They will pack nicely and ship. Please buy the Raleigh before I buy it -- 
> I've been ogling it for months now. Price dropped from $450 since owner 
> leaving town.
> 
> 1. Nice old 1952 Raleigh city bike with generator hub, AW, and nice 
> B-something. $200 plus shipping. See below.
> 
> 2. 1982 (?) Stumpjumper with lugs and biplane fork; call Stevie for price and 
> information.
> 
> 
> 
> 3. Very nice 1983 or so Trek touring bike, about a 55 -- call Stevie. No 
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[RBW] Re: ROSCO mailing list

[dougP]

Hoping for tentacular chainstays; diag-a-tube optional.  Possibility of 
more than a single design?  Pretty open ended.  Should be fun.  

dougP

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 12:43:56 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Just saw this on the BLUG. Put "ROSCO BUBBE, your name" in the subject 
> line to gr...@rivbike.com  and you'll get updates on this 
> cool project. Be like me, do it today!

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Re: [RBW] Santa Barbara Mini Tour Ride Report.

[Hugh Smitham]

Thank you so much Erl. And I'm jealous of you East coasters and your
gorgeous trails and history.

~Hugh
On Feb 16, 2016 2:13 PM, "WETH"  wrote:

> Hugh,
> Gorgeous photos and excellent write-up.  I am quite jealous of you West
> coast folks this time of year.  Sharing a bike adventure with your brothers
> is a great idea.
> Thanks for sharing.
> Erl
> Ps: I look forward to more photos of your Hilsen
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[RBW] Santa Barbara Mini Tour Ride Report.

[WETH]

Hugh,
Gorgeous photos and excellent write-up.  I am quite jealous of you West coast 
folks this time of year.  Sharing a bike adventure with your brothers is a 
great idea.
Thanks for sharing.
Erl
Ps: I look forward to more photos of your Hilsen

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[RBW] Re: [socalallrounders] Re: Strada Rossa March 19th... you all are invited!

[Dave C]

Based on the comments from Dave and Mike, I think I will put 35 mm cross 
knobbies on her Romulus and have her test them out.

I have a WTB Cross Boss that should fit its clearances.




On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 7:32:27 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> David, sorry to not have replied to you sooner... life happens sometimes.
>
> I'm ecstatic you and your wife can make it! It's practically in your back 
> yard, right! The 100km is the signature event, so it's the one to shoot for 
> in my opinion! 
>
> You brought up two related question. The first is about your tires. The 
> Nano/Knard combo will be fine. Anything more than 40mm is unnecessary. 
> As the second question is about bikes/tires, I'll add that like Mike 
> mentioned, some light knobbie tread will be really appreciated. So 
> whichever bike she brings I think she'll be happier with the tire that has 
> some knobs. That and whichever frame she will be most comfortable on for 
> six+ hours. Oh, and gearing for hills. 
>
> I don't think goatheads are going to be a big problem. I've been 
> pre-riding with my my road bike on Challenge Eroicas, which are pretty thin 
> rubber. No problems. So don't choose a tire just for puncture resistance. 
> Pick the tire for the terrain: 30 miles of roads, and 30 miles of hardpack. 
> A few short sand sections. As insurance, taking out the valve core and 
> putting a couple ounces of Stans wouldn't hurt at all. I'd do that before 
> tire liners. In fact, that is what I do!
>
> So don't know if that helped clear things up for you. I hope some. 
> Anything else, definitely let me know!
>
> Was out in the hills today, and it's beautiful!
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 6:34 PM, 'Mike Schiller' via SoCal All Rounders 
> (SCAR)  wrote:
>
>> I rode it two years ago on Hetres.  They were very fast but less stable 
>> in the singletrack sections and my background is MTB racing. This time I'm 
>> going to run a low knobbed tire like the Panaracer 40mm Gravelking.I 
>> think your wife would better off on the Romulus with some 36-38mm low knob 
>> tires than the Glorius.  
>>
>> I'll be riding the 100km course as well.
>>
>> ~mike
>> Carlsbad Ca
>>
>> On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 2:42:08 PM UTC-8, David Carroll wrote:
>>>
>>> David, everybody,
>>>
>>> Just registered my wife and I for the 100km. We thought about the 
>>> English century, but we have to arrange babysitting and bring the kids down 
>>> to Redlands. A hundred miler might take too much time. Probably my mom (KC) 
>>> and dad will participate in the half-metric event.
>>>
>>> I've never been on the course, but it seems these trails around there 
>>> are a bit smoother than our fire roads, which are rutted, rocky things that 
>>> most people tackle with 29ers, Jeeps, and lifted trucks. Would a 41 mm 
>>> Knard / 40 mm Nano combo on my Soma Double Cross be fine? Not overkill, I 
>>> hope. My wife has to decide between her Glorius, Romulus, or 29er. She has 
>>> Hetres on the Glorius, and if she takes it I thought we might want to put 
>>> in tire liners. I don't get a ton of thorns here in the San Gabriels, but I 
>>> hear goat heads are more common around Redlands.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated. We like to ride fast and light 
>>> when possible, but I'm not looking to get any "under-biking awards"  :)
>>>
>>> Dave in Wrightwood
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 9:08:22 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:


 http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com/2015/11/were-putting-stake-in-it-march-19-2016.html

 A very Rivendell-friendly event! Hope to see some of you there!

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[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

[john]

Several (more like 20) years ago, I rode a 55 or 56 cm (can't remember 
exactly) Bridgestone X0-3, which I loved, although it was a bit small for 
me (I'm almost 6 feet tall).
It had 26" wheels, mustache bars, slicks (26x1.75) and knobbier (up to 
1.95s). What a fun bike! I toured with it and it handled weight very 
nicely. I rode off road a lot, on road, commutedI didn't know any 
better and just rode it for all my purposes - unlike today where I "know 
more" and have to have a specific tool for each task - and don't have as 
much fun. 

A little later on, I rode a Surly Big Dummy as my primary commuter. It also 
had 26" wheels, and was the large sized frame (the largest they made). it 
rode great, too. Of course it carried loads really well. It was never gonna 
be fast - especially since I was pedaling! But I liked the bike - road well 
for its intended purpose. And it was not a small frame.

Now I ride a 60cm 2009 Cantilevered Sam Hillborne with 700c wheels (of 
course), and it also rides really nicely.

I just mention this because the reason I brought up the discussion is that 
I'm just genuinely curious. I know some other companies out there make 26" 
wheeled touring bikes in large frames, and wondered what the general 
feeling among the Rivendell group was concerning the "ideal" wheel size for 
a given purpose (in this case, loaded touring).



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>
> We run 26" wheels on our touring tandem.  We are a tall ( 6'1" & 5'9") and 
> heavy (360 lbs) team.  Add in a heavy steel frame at 40+ lbs, front and 
> real panniers, water, etc and our touring weight runs around 430lbs, and 
> day rides a bit over 400 lbs.  Yet we have been riding the same 26", 36 
> spoke wheels ( instead of the traditional 48 spoke 700C) for 5 years 
> without any problems.  I believe / suspect that the shorter spoke lengths 
> make for a stronger wheel.  We use a V shaped (DaVinci) rim and 38mm 
> (Marathon Racer) tires, which do a good job of protecting the wheels.  So 
> yes, I would say, from my experience, 26" is an excellent choice for a 
> fully loaded touring bike.  Ours is a travel tandem, and as has been noted, 
> the 26" wheels pack more conveniently.  The only downside I have found is 
> the length of the head tube, which puts even a large front bag out of reach 
> of a decaleur.  We use a small Acorn bag.  Not as convenient, but no 
> decaleur required.
>
> All that said, if I were starting from scratch, I would choose 650B wheels 
> & canti brakes for a touring bike.  I have that combination on both a 
> Saluki and a Trek 620 conversion.  The wheel size, frame geometry, and tire 
> selection hit a real sweet spot.
>
> What I find more puzzling in recent RBW designs is the preference for 
> double TTs in designs of 64cm & below.  It definitely looks like a solution 
> in search of a problem.  I wouldn't hesitate to head out for self supported 
> touring on a single tube, 64cm Atlantis.
>
> Michael
> in Westford Vt, where three days of constant sub zero temperatures ended 
> in freezing rain.  UGH.
>  
> On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 1:46:53 PM UTC-5, john wrote:
>>
>> I'm wondering about the difference in tire sizes for loaded touring.
>>
>> Wouldn't a 26" wheel work better for loaded touring, regardless of the 
>> frame size?
>>
>> Why therefore doesn't Rivendell offer 26" wheels in their larger 
>> touring-capable frames, like the Atlantis and Hunq?
>>
>> What am I missing here?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

[sameness]

So what size wheels are on your Magna?

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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>
>   Theories abound, everyone has them and yet no one knows the Truth.  
> There is a reason why theories are called theories !  No man knows or can 
> know the Absolute , Truth .  
>
> Just ride what you Love , with Love.  Pay no mind,  funny how everything 
> turns out just perfect in spite of all the theories and thought put 
> together. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

[Steve Palincsar]

On 02/16/2016 02:02 PM, Ron Mc wrote:
I'm thinking if your legs are short, a 26" is fine.  But if you're 
6'3" and all limbs like me, it has to be 700c.  If nothing else, just 
to have acceptable pedal clearance.




Looks like plenty of pedal clearance here...


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[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

[Garth]

  Theories abound, everyone has them and yet no one knows the Truth.  There 
is a reason why theories are called theories !  No man knows or can know 
the Absolute , Truth .  

Just ride what you Love , with Love.  Pay no mind,  funny how everything 
turns out just perfect in spite of all the theories and thought put 
together. 

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[RBW] WTB: V-Brakes & Levers, preferably silver.

[David Banzer]

Like the subject line says. Building up my wife's Clementine and realized 
it's for her, not me, so v-brake will work fine.
I'd prefer silver v-brakes and compatible silver brake levers.
Contact me offlist if you have any and how much you'd like for them shipped 
to 60618.
Thanks,
David
Chicago

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Coupled Saluki

[Bill Lindsay]

They never "switched" the Saluki.  It was pretty much always an either/or. 
 By the time the Saluki became the 650B Hilsen, then it was only 
sidepull/centerpull, but now even that bike is back to either/or.  

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 1:24:42 PM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> I have a very early Saluki, which has Canti brakes.  When did RBW switch 
> to  C/SP brakes?
>
> Michael
>
> On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 4:15:02 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Here's something you don't see every day. 54cm S coupled Saluki..and 
>> it's red! The seller says it's a custom Steve Rex spray, and the cream 
>> panel under the seattube decal is a neat not-like-stock detail. Somebody in 
>> the Bay Area or Sacramento nerds to hike up to Lake County and snap this 
>> up. 
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/5445857192.html
>>
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[RBW] Re: Sorta FS post: Bags in Martexin Ranger Tan fabric.

[David Banzer]

Forgot to add: if you're happy with Riv's color selection for a basket bag, 
please order a bag from them.
David
Chicago

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 3:21:24 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Ian,
> I sent a PM. To others wondering, yes I have a basket bag design for a 
> Wald 137. 
> Seen here on my Clem: 
> http://s821.photobucket.com/user/dabanzer/media/Rivendell%20Clem/805EC47D-5C61-468E-BF73-00FDFCF0BDC3_zpshljdmeyx.jpg.html?sort=3=3
> I certainly can make these in a less eye-burning color combo.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 2:11:28 PM UTC-6, ian m wrote:
>>
>> I have the same question as Tim, I believe you posted in another thread 
>> with pictures of a hi-viz basket bag? I've tried to comment on other 
>> threads before and they haven't shown up, so maybe this time it will 
>> work...Would love a basket bag!
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 3 very nice bikes at Stevie's Happy Bikes in Corrales, NM

[sameness]

Get out of my mind!

Any idea if that Raleigh's a 21" or 23"? 

I'm guessing the former, which would save me from having to think twice, 
but the angle of the seat tube plus 27" wheels is throwing me a bit.

Jeff "Super Bee or Soo-PAIR-bhuh?" Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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>
> WHY YOU DO THIS, PATRICK? That Raleigh would be useless on my big hill, 
> and would probably put me in traction carrying it upstairs to my apartment, 
> but JUST LOOK AT IT. Ok, I'm gonna stop looking at it now. One more peek...

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Coupled Saluki

[Michael Hechmer]

I have a very early Saluki, which has Canti brakes.  When did RBW switch to 
 C/SP brakes?

Michael

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 4:15:02 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Here's something you don't see every day. 54cm S coupled Saluki..and 
> it's red! The seller says it's a custom Steve Rex spray, and the cream 
> panel under the seattube decal is a neat not-like-stock detail. Somebody in 
> the Bay Area or Sacramento nerds to hike up to Lake County and snap this 
> up. 
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/5445857192.html
>

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[RBW] Re: Sorta FS post: Bags in Martexin Ranger Tan fabric.

[David Banzer]

Ian,
I sent a PM. To others wondering, yes I have a basket bag design for a Wald 
137. 
Seen here on my Clem: 
http://s821.photobucket.com/user/dabanzer/media/Rivendell%20Clem/805EC47D-5C61-468E-BF73-00FDFCF0BDC3_zpshljdmeyx.jpg.html?sort=3=3
I certainly can make these in a less eye-burning color combo.
David
Chicago

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 2:11:28 PM UTC-6, ian m wrote:
>
> I have the same question as Tim, I believe you posted in another thread 
> with pictures of a hi-viz basket bag? I've tried to comment on other 
> threads before and they haven't shown up, so maybe this time it will 
> work...Would love a basket bag!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[David Johnston]

Note:  Take care that if you want to use the Shimano Bar ends on the
Sunrace body then you will want to use the special spacer that comes
with the Shimano Bar ends that fits over the square thing on the bar
end pod and has a tab on the shifter side for the shifter. The spacer
that comes with the sunrace mount looks like it will work but then the
hole and cable groove don't line up right.


On 2/15/16, Tim Wood  wrote:
> Thanks for confirming the shimanos fit on the sunrace bodies, Dave. I
> received my ultegra bar ends but haven't installed them yet. I'm planning on
> trying bar end first but am just waiting on some grip materials to arrive.
> If the bar ends don't work out It looks like i could also mount the shimanos
> in thumbie/indexed mode with the shifters mounted on the outside of the bar.
> I think I'd like this better than on top.
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[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

[Michael Hechmer]

We run 26" wheels on our touring tandem.  We are a tall ( 6'1" & 5'9") and 
heavy (360 lbs) team.  Add in a heavy steel frame at 40+ lbs, front and 
real panniers, water, etc and our touring weight runs around 430lbs, and 
day rides a bit over 400 lbs.  Yet we have been riding the same 26", 36 
spoke wheels ( instead of the traditional 48 spoke 700C) for 5 years 
without any problems.  I believe / suspect that the shorter spoke lengths 
make for a stronger wheel.  We use a V shaped (DaVinci) rim and 38mm 
(Marathon Racer) tires, which do a good job of protecting the wheels.  So 
yes, I would say, from my experience, 26" is an excellent choice for a 
fully loaded touring bike.  Ours is a travel tandem, and as has been noted, 
the 26" wheels pack more conveniently.  The only downside I have found is 
the length of the head tube, which puts even a large front bag out of reach 
of a decaleur.  We use a small Acorn bag.  Not as convenient, but no 
decaleur required.

All that said, if I were starting from scratch, I would choose 650B wheels 
& canti brakes for a touring bike.  I have that combination on both a 
Saluki and a Trek 620 conversion.  The wheel size, frame geometry, and tire 
selection hit a real sweet spot.

What I find more puzzling in recent RBW designs is the preference for 
double TTs in designs of 64cm & below.  It definitely looks like a solution 
in search of a problem.  I wouldn't hesitate to head out for self supported 
touring on a single tube, 64cm Atlantis.

Michael
in Westford Vt, where three days of constant sub zero temperatures ended in 
freezing rain.  UGH.
 
On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 1:46:53 PM UTC-5, john wrote:
>
> I'm wondering about the difference in tire sizes for loaded touring.
>
> Wouldn't a 26" wheel work better for loaded touring, regardless of the 
> frame size?
>
> Why therefore doesn't Rivendell offer 26" wheels in their larger 
> touring-capable frames, like the Atlantis and Hunq?
>
> What am I missing here?
>

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[RBW] PSA: Coupled Saluki

[Joe Bernard]

Here's something you don't see every day. 54cm S coupled Saluki..and it's 
red! The seller says it's a custom Steve Rex spray, and the cream panel under 
the seattube decal is a neat not-like-stock detail. Somebody in the Bay Area or 
Sacramento nerds to hike up to Lake County and snap this up. 

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/5445857192.html

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[RBW] 3 very nice bikes at Stevie's Happy Bikes in Corrales, NM

[Joe Bernard]

WHY YOU DO THIS, PATRICK? That Raleigh would be useless on my big hill, and 
would probably put me in traction carrying it upstairs to my apartment, but 
JUST LOOK AT IT. Ok, I'm gonna stop looking at it now. One more peek...

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[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

[Bill Lindsay]

Rivendell, more than any other bicycle source in the world, believes that 
wheel diameter should go along with frame size.  There is no other bicycle 
manufacturer on earth that practices that theory more than Rivendell.  

There is nothing fundamentally wrong with 26" wheels for a really tall 
rider.  Many will tell you "they work fine for me".  A pure strength 
argument doesn't cut it, though.  24" wheels would be even stronger.  20" 
wheels stronger still.  16" wheels indestructable.  There are other trade 
offs, so it's just a matter of where you want to be.  If you ride a big 
frame and want a 26" wheelsize, then go buy that thing and enjoy it.  It 
just won't be a Rivendell.  No problem.  


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>
> I'm wondering about the difference in tire sizes for loaded touring.
>
> Wouldn't a 26" wheel work better for loaded touring, regardless of the 
> frame size?
>
> Why therefore doesn't Rivendell offer 26" wheels in their larger 
> touring-capable frames, like the Atlantis and Hunq?
>
> What am I missing here?
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROSCO mailing list

[Bill Lindsay]

There might be some fun single-speeds coming out of this project, I'd 
wager.  There might be some ULTRA-MEGA-EXPANDED frame designs to fit almost 
everybody with one frame size, since the fork choices are limited.  Like a 
'one-mixte-fits-all' kind of thing.  It will be fun to see what he comes up 
with.  

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 12:27:34 PM UTC-8, masmojo wrote:
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> I signed up (what the heck!) Even though some of the bogeys here seem open 
> ended & possibly dubious? I mean what could we be talking about here? Cargo 
> Bikes, Beach Cruisers? And Economical!? Well, I am all about economy!!! 
> But, anywayz sort of excited to see what happens & what direction this 
> takes!

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Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

[Patrick Moore]

Road wheels must be 26". Off road wheels must be 700C. Amen.



On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 11:46 AM, john  wrote:

> I'm wondering about the difference in tire sizes for loaded touring.
>
> Wouldn't a 26" wheel work better for loaded touring, regardless of the
> frame size?
>
> Why therefore doesn't Rivendell offer 26" wheels in their larger
> touring-capable frames, like the Atlantis and Hunq?
>
> What am I missing here?
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Re: [RBW] Re: ROSCO mailing list

[Joe Bernard]

I'm holding out for a welded single-color Mystery Bike along the lines of what 
Pudge and Riv Chica Warrior have. With the diagatubes and tentacular stays and 
whatnot. Hey Grant!!

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROSCO mailing list

[Philip Williamson]

My German friend pronounces both the L and the "buh" in Schwalbe. I started 
copying him. 

Philip
www.biketinker.com

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> I like to say Shwahbeee.
> But was told shwahb.
>
> I also say "Bler-ee-it"
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Re: [RBW] Re: Santa Barbara Mini Tour Ride Report.

[Hugh Smitham]

Deacon: It was really great! Thanks! Yeah lots of sun for sure. And dialing
in a ride feels awesome.

Curtis: It really was. Glad you liked it.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> What a great time with your bro, Hugh! That's a lot of sun and beautiful
> terrain. Always good to dial things in, and it sounds like you are more
> comfortable with the Atlantis sale. Success all round!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 11:45:03 AM UTC-7, Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>> No Strava or mapmyride but this did happen.
>>
>> Here 
>>
>> Tail Winds,
>>
>> ~Hugh
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Re: [RBW] Re: ROSCO mailing list

[masmojo]

I signed up (what the heck!) Even though some of the bogeys here seem open 
ended & possibly dubious? I mean what could we be talking about here? Cargo 
Bikes, Beach Cruisers? And Economical!? Well, I am all about economy!!! But, 
anywayz sort of excited to see what happens & what direction this takes!

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Re: [RBW] Santa Barbara Mini Tour Ride Report.

[Curtis McKenzie]

Hugh,

Looks like a great trip.  Thanks for sharing.

Curtis

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>
> Here 
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> Tail Winds,
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> ~Hugh
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Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

[masmojo]

As a former XO-1 owner I can tell you the smaller wheels accelerate faster and 
are probably a little easier on a slow grinding climb while loaded,  but in the 
other end of the spectrum the larger wheels seem to maintain momentum better. I 
might go 26" if traveling to somewhere outof tge way, but otherwise I would 
choose a wheel size proportional to you height. 
I rode 26" almost exclusively for 25 years, but I am loving 650B now & that is 
one thing I look for, but it might not make sense touring China or South 
America. 

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Threadless Stem, Thomson Setback Seatpost, Nitto RM-013, Gran Comp EVO, Nitto Technomic Stem

[Philip Kim]

Nitto RM-013 Handlebar and Nitto 80mm reach stem sold.

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 10:07:38 AM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Nitto UI-71 threadless stem. 31.8 clamp, 80mm reach. Brand new (reference 
> ). 
> $95 shipped
>
> Thomson Setback Seatpost 27.2 diameter 250mm length. Brand new. $65 shipped
>
> Nitto RM-013 handlebar. Listed as 48cm size drop to drop, 44cm hood to 
> hood. Used on my Hillborne. Slightly big for me. Great shape. $40 shipped
>
> Nitto NTC-DX Techmonic Delux Quill Stem. 26.0 clamp, 80mm reach. 100mm 
> quill length from min. insertion line (reference 
> ).
>  
> $40 shipped.
>
> Nitto NTC-DX Techmonic Delux Quill Stem. 26.0 clamp, 70mm reach. 100mm 
> quill length from min. insertion line (reference 
> ).
>  
> $40 shipped.
>
> Gran Comp Evo brake levers (reference 
> ). Nice satin finish. $45 
> shipped.
>
>
> Pictures here 
> 
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[RBW] Re: Sorta FS post: Bags in Martexin Ranger Tan fabric.

[ian m]

I have the same question as Tim, I believe you posted in another thread with 
pictures of a hi-viz basket bag? I've tried to comment on other threads before 
and they haven't shown up, so maybe this time it will work...Would love a 
basket bag!

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[RBW] Re: FS: "Biketinkers Union" patches

[Deacon Patrick]

It would be hard to mail one farther and still have it's destination be on 
this planet! What every happened to the Mars Rivendell contingent anyway? 
Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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> New Zealand is the furthest-sent patch I mailed out, too.
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[RBW] Tour Dem Parks, Hun! ride in Baltimore early bird registration open if any Rivriders who want to go.

[islaysteve]

This looks good, I will seriously consider it!

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[RBW] Re: FS: "Biketinkers Union" patches

[Philip Williamson]

That is super cool. New Zealand is the furthest-sent patch I mailed out, 
too.

Philip
www.biketinker.com 

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 6:53:16 PM UTC-8, Clayton wrote:
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> I screwed the schedule up...Correction: First race is in New Zealand
>
> On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 8:58:37 AM UTC-8, Clayton wrote:
>>
>> Bike tinkers union proudly represented by Colin, factory race team 
>> mechanic for the Giant Enduro Team. The patch is on a world tour on his 
>> customized tool bag. First stop, New Zealand...
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Clayton (Bend)
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

[Steven Sweedler]

I am 6'2", touring on a Thorn with 26" wheels and am very comfortable if
the frame is well designed it will work regardless of wheel size  Also much
easier to pack if you fly with your bike It was Grant who convinced me
years ago on 26" wheels but on larger frames he didn't like the extra long
head tube Steve
Catalina, Az

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016, Ron Mc  wrote:

> I'm thinking if your legs are short, a 26" is fine.  But if you're 6'3"
> and all limbs like me, it has to be 700c.  If nothing else, just to have
> acceptable pedal clearance.
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Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

[Deacon Patrick]

It's like we attend the same meetings and drink the same kool-aid-laced 
#coffeeoutside. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 12:02:11 PM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
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>
> Grant designs the frames to have roughly the same tire clearance for each 
> wheel size, so each size rides similarly to the others.
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[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

[Neil]

What about relative wheel strength? 26" is smaller, shorter spokes, 
stronger wheel...? In theory, but I bet the real-world difference is small, 
all things being equal.

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 10:46:53 AM UTC-8, john wrote:
>
> I'm wondering about the difference in tire sizes for loaded touring.
>
> Wouldn't a 26" wheel work better for loaded touring, regardless of the 
> frame size?
>
> Why therefore doesn't Rivendell offer 26" wheels in their larger 
> touring-capable frames, like the Atlantis and Hunq?
>
> What am I missing here?
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROSCO mailing list

[Joe Bernard]

Patrick, thinking upon such meaninglessness will drive you crazy. Especially 
while walking through a Toyota lot. Corolla? Camry? Prius? At least Avalon is a 
real word!

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Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

[Tim Gavin]

Some folks believe that 26" wheels are best for touring because of their
widespread availability.  I.e., if you're touring in Borneo you'll still
find tires, tubes, and wheels.

Other than parts availability, I don't believe that one wheel size has an
inherent advantage over the others.

Rivendell/Grant believes in sizing the wheel diameter to correlate to the
frame size.  Some of their bikes have 26" wheels for the small frames, 650b
wheels in the middle sizes, and 700c for the large sizes.

Grant designs the frames to have roughly the same tire clearance for each
wheel size, so each size rides similarly to the others.

I applaud this approach, because a bike with smaller-diameter wheels fits
better for shorter people.  I cringe when I build up 47 and 49 cm road
frames with 700c wheels at the shop where I work.  Those short folks could
have a better-fitting, better-handling bike if they used smaller hoops.

Tim

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> I'm wondering about the difference in tire sizes for loaded touring.
>
> Wouldn't a 26" wheel work better for loaded touring, regardless of the
> frame size?
>
> Why therefore doesn't Rivendell offer 26" wheels in their larger
> touring-capable frames, like the Atlantis and Hunq?
>
> What am I missing here?
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[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

[Ron Mc]

I'm thinking if your legs are short, a 26" is fine.  But if you're 6'3" and 
all limbs like me, it has to be 700c.  If nothing else, just to have 
acceptable pedal clearance. 

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[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

[Deacon Patrick]

A wheel is a wheel is a wheel. There are different characteristics to 
different sizes, but no "ideal". As near as I can tell looking at Grant's 
offerings, he sizes the wheel to the frame which is presumably sized to the 
rider. That makes far more sense to me than does 26" for all MTBs or other 
arbitrary sizing. All other factors being equal (tire , rim, etc.) a larger 
wheel will have more inertia starting out, making it harder to get going, 
and more inertia once rolling, helping it hold momentum longer. How big a 
difference is there? Likely not a huge amount, and I'd bet not enough to 
warrant a smaller wheel for a bigger rider or vice versa. But what do I 
know? I'm big, dumb, and slow, happily riding a 700c Quickbeam and 29er 
Hunqapillar. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 11:46:53 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
>
> I'm wondering about the difference in tire sizes for loaded touring.
>
> Wouldn't a 26" wheel work better for loaded touring, regardless of the 
> frame size?
>
> Why therefore doesn't Rivendell offer 26" wheels in their larger 
> touring-capable frames, like the Atlantis and Hunq?
>
> What am I missing here?
>

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[RBW] Santa Barbara Mini Tour Ride Report.

[Hugh Smitham]

No Strava or mapmyride but this did happen.

Here 

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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[RBW] Re: Santa Barbara Mini Tour Ride Report.

[Deacon Patrick]

What a great time with your bro, Hugh! That's a lot of sun and beautiful 
terrain. Always good to dial things in, and it sounds like you are more 
comfortable with the Atlantis sale. Success all round!

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 11:45:03 AM UTC-7, Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
> No Strava or mapmyride but this did happen.
>
> Here 
>
> Tail Winds,
>
> ~Hugh
>

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[RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

[john]

I'm wondering about the difference in tire sizes for loaded touring.

Wouldn't a 26" wheel work better for loaded touring, regardless of the 
frame size?

Why therefore doesn't Rivendell offer 26" wheels in their larger 
touring-capable frames, like the Atlantis and Hunq?

What am I missing here?

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[RBW] Re: Sorta FS post: Bags in Martexin Ranger Tan fabric.

[David Banzer]

Fabric ordered for those who pre-ordered. I ordered a little extra so if 
anyone is still interested I can make a few more bags.
David
Chicago

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[RBW] Re: Old Man Petersen decal

[Fullylugged]

looks great! I've sent a picture of a dead president and hope that results in 
some decals coming back my way. One will go on the pending re spray of an old 
Nashbar Japanese frame. Thread drift: that frame has a brandywine red Imron 
original coat. I'm bringing my Riv Road spare fork, and which ever color the 
painter can get closer to (the red or the blue) is what I'm going with. The  
decal would look better on the blue I think, all things being equal. In fact, 
if it goes blue, I could use that fork!

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[RBW] Tour Dem Parks, Hun! ride in Baltimore early bird registration open if any Rivriders who want to go.

[Lungimsam]

Tour Dem Parks, Hun! is 35 mile a ride through Baltimore city MUPS, 
streets,  and parks and stops at some gems along the way.
Looks like a laid back and fun ride.
Would be cool to meet up at the start and ride Rivendells together.

*Date*:   Sunday, June 12, 2016 
- *Year*:   14th annual (June 2003 ~ 2016) 
- *Time*:   7:30-9:30am morning registration
- *Start & End*p*oint*:   Rawlings Conservatory in Baltimore City’s Druid 
Hill Park 
All riders off the streets by 2pm 

http://tourdemparks.org/

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[RBW] Re: What's in a Rivendell name?

[Belopsky]

On this same topic - I wish I had not bought two bikes so I could afford 
one Riv! LOL

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: "Biketinkers Union" patches

[Philip Williamson]

That's a cool idea. Couture aprons.
Some pockets, a loop for a rag? Brown?

Philip
www.biketinker.com


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Re: [RBW] Re: ROSCO mailing list

[Lungimsam]

Well! About all I have to say to that, in my best Balmerese is:

Ram- boo- lay, Hun!

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[RBW] Nitto Threadless Stem, Thomson Setback Seatpost, Nitto RM-013, Gran Comp EVO, Nitto Technomic Stem

[Philip Kim]

Nitto UI-71 threadless stem. 31.8 clamp, 80mm reach. Brand new (reference 
). 
$95 shipped

Thomson Setback Seatpost 27.2 diameter 250mm length. Brand new. $65 shipped

Nitto RM-013 handlebar. Listed as 48cm size drop to drop, 44cm hood to 
hood. Used on my Hillborne. Slightly big for me. Great shape. $40 shipped

Nitto NTC-DX Techmonic Delux Quill Stem. 26.0 clamp, 80mm reach. 100mm 
quill length from min. insertion line (reference 
).
 
$40 shipped.

Nitto NTC-DX Techmonic Delux Quill Stem. 26.0 clamp, 70mm reach. 100mm 
quill length from min. insertion line (reference 
).
 
$40 shipped.

Gran Comp Evo brake levers (reference 
). Nice satin finish. $45 
shipped.


Pictures here 


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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam on the Range

[Deacon Patrick]

I love it, Thom! There is a stretch on this ride I think of as flat, but 
it's actually 22mph going north, and 15 going south.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 8:52:06 PM UTC-7, Thom Goodmann wrote:
>
> Great ride . . . had the QB out yesterday, and it felt so good that I am 
> thinking of riding on an MS fundraiser in a couple of weeks.  #flatflorida 
> Who needs multiples?!  --Thom in Miami
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROSCO mailing list

[Ron Mc]

yes, and then there's anglicizing of all French proper names...

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 6:03:04 AM UTC-6, islaysteve wrote:
>
> Lungimsam please just don't.  If you must pronounce the T in Bleriot, at 
> least switch to Blue Riot (with apologies to the list member who invented 
> Blue Riot!). ; ).
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROSCO mailing list

[islaysteve]

Lungimsam please just don't.  If you must pronounce the T in Bleriot, at least 
switch to Blue Riot (with apologies to the list member who invented Blue 
Riot!). ; ).

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROSCO mailing list

[Patrick Moore]

After pulling Joe's leg, I thought more about Shimano model names, and damn
if they are not very weird indeed -- as weird in their own way as
proprietary drug names (Sidafex: good for *all* your ills.)

Deore? Ultegra? Exage? Sante? Dura Ace? From what abyssal mental sink do
these bubble forth? They clearly have a superficial plausibility, but stop
and ponder them, and you are sucked into abysses of meaninglessness.

It's a very weird world.

Patrick Moore, sensitive to words after reading Job:
Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook?
or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down?
Canst thou put an hook into his nose?
or bore his jaw through with a thorn?
3Will he make many supplications unto thee?
will he speak soft words unto thee?
4Will he make a covenant with thee?
wilt thou take him for a servant for ever?
Wilt thou play with him as with a bird?
or wilt thou bind him for thy maidens?

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