[RBW] Re: The Cheviot has arrived!

2016-09-25 Thread René Sterental 
Funny that the photo of the shifters in the Soma page is exactly reversed
to how I set them up, which is to mimic how the shifters work on the down
tube.

David, I set the tires up on Atlas rims which are wider than standard road
rims. I'll measure them when I get home next Sunday afternoon.

BTW, not an exact measurement, but with the bikes hanging from the front
wheel on my garage wall, the 60 cm Cheviot is about a bit less than a half
wheel longer than the 61 Homer. I'll measure total length when I get home,
but am curious to see how it will fit on Caltrain, in the smaller bike cars
that have 3 sided cages for the bikes. The 58 Hunqapillar fit tightly with
50mm tires and fenders and the Cheviot seems longer with no fenders yet...

René

On Monday, September 26, 2016, Belopsky  wrote:

> http://store.somafab.com/irddoshmofor.html
>
> On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 9:10:11 AM UTC-4, masmojo wrote:
>>
>> What sort of mount did you use for the shifters? I need something similar
>> for my Atlantis. Nice build, tempted to get one myself, but between my
>> Clementine & Atlantis it might be too much duplication.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hypothetical albastache handlebar setup

2016-09-25 Thread Jeremy Tavan 
I'm actually looking at the albastache because I want the longer reach
option - I have a very long torso, proportionately, and most swept-back
bars end up too close for comfort except with really, really long top tube
bikes and really long stems. I appreciate all the feedback from folks on
this list! I'll give them a shot with regular road bike levers "as
specified" and see how it goes. Is it better to use a straight-bladed brake
lever, or one of the ergo-ish ones like the TRP RRL?

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 10:31 PM dstein  wrote:

> 3rd that. I have albastaches on my hunqapillar and hear what you're
> saying. I keep going back and forth between having something upright like
> the albatross with brake levers at the ends of the bars vs. albastache with
> breaks in the drops and at the end of the day I prefer the albastache - the
> brakes are pretty accessible and you still get the upright riding when you
> want it. If the bars are high enough and the stem short enough it shouldn't
> be too far of a reach to the drops.
>
>
> On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 8:36:58 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>>
>> Agreed. I find the brakes on the hooks to be really easy to get to. I
>> thought about inverse levers when I got mine, because i assumed I'd be
>> riding mostly near the ends, but I'm really glad I went with standard road
>> levers And setup the bars the way riv does. I find I ride between the hooks
>> and the ends most often, so the brakes are only a few inches away. The
>> brake "hoods" are also somewhat useful as a hand location when you want to
>> stretch out more.
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[RBW] Re: Hypothetical albastache handlebar setup

2016-09-25 Thread dstein 
3rd that. I have albastaches on my hunqapillar and hear what you're saying. 
I keep going back and forth between having something upright like the 
albatross with brake levers at the ends of the bars vs. albastache with 
breaks in the drops and at the end of the day I prefer the albastache - the 
brakes are pretty accessible and you still get the upright riding when you 
want it. If the bars are high enough and the stem short enough it shouldn't 
be too far of a reach to the drops.

On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 8:36:58 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> Agreed. I find the brakes on the hooks to be really easy to get to. I 
> thought about inverse levers when I got mine, because i assumed I'd be 
> riding mostly near the ends, but I'm really glad I went with standard road 
> levers And setup the bars the way riv does. I find I ride between the hooks 
> and the ends most often, so the brakes are only a few inches away. The 
> brake "hoods" are also somewhat useful as a hand location when you want to 
> stretch out more. 

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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

2016-09-25 Thread Surlyprof 
Agreed.  I envision a future post about the lone car trying to eek its way 
into the massive line of parents on bikes dropping off kids at your school. 
 Wouldn't that be ideal!

John

On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 9:20:38 PM UTC-7, Evan E. wrote:
>
> Leah,
>
> Please post a bus update at least once a week! For one thing, it's just 
> plain fun to hear about your adventures and read your observations. For 
> another, it'll be fascinating to see how things change in your 
> neighborhood, or perhaps don't change, as the weather cools, as your bus 
> gains momentum, and as bicyclists and motorists and pedestrians try to 
> coexist.
>
> Evan
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>
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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

2016-09-25 Thread Evan E. 
Leah,

Please post a bus update at least once a week! For one thing, it's just 
plain fun to hear about your adventures and read your observations. For 
another, it'll be fascinating to see how things change in your 
neighborhood, or perhaps don't change, as the weather cools, as your bus 
gains momentum, and as bicyclists and motorists and pedestrians try to 
coexist.

Evan


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[RBW] Re: JumboBackabikeGrabbySackThingy

2016-09-25 Thread Surlyprof 
I'll be sure to bring it on our Point Reyes Lighthouse Ride, Evan.

John

On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 9:07:38 PM UTC-7, Evan E. wrote:
>
> Looks great!

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[RBW] Re: JumboBackabikeGrabbySackThingy

2016-09-25 Thread Evan E. 
Looks great!

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[RBW] JumboBackabikeGrabbySackThingy

2016-09-25 Thread LeahFoy 
This is just fantastic

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[RBW] JumboBackabikeGrabbySackThingy

2016-09-25 Thread Surlyprof 
I was fortunate enough to stumble across what looked to be an early 
prototype of the Jumbo Grabby Sack for $20 in the last Riv garage sale.  It 
has a handle and shoulder/waist strap in the back and had a makeshift brown 
shoulder strap loosely attached with a sewing awl.  It also has only one 
wood toggle with a stiffening dowel like they use on the Saddlesacks.  I 
took off the makeshift shoulder strap and added two large eyelets in the 
back (like the early Backabike sacks).  I've also made a stiffening 
framesheet with some black sheet ABS I had lying around (as I'm sure 
everyone does).  I strapped it on with an Irish Strap for a very successful 
maiden voyage across the bay.  I may trim down the height of the framesheet 
and add another shoulder strap of gray seatbelt webbing since we have 
commercial sewing machines in our prototyping lab.  For now it seems to be 
working out pretty well.  Photos prove it does exist: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/albums/72157674297473556

John

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[RBW] Re: Hypothetical albastache handlebar setup

2016-09-25 Thread drew 
Agreed. I find the brakes on the hooks to be really easy to get to. I thought 
about inverse levers when I got mine, because i assumed I'd be riding mostly 
near the ends, but I'm really glad I went with standard road levers And setup 
the bars the way riv does. I find I ride between the hooks and the ends most 
often, so the brakes are only a few inches away. The brake "hoods" are also 
somewhat useful as a hand location when you want to stretch out more. 

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[RBW] Re: Hypothetical albastache handlebar setup

2016-09-25 Thread Surlyprof 
I remember asking Keven about interrupters when I first bought my 
Albastache bar set up.  He said that there really wasn't any need since you 
can quickly shift your grip from upright to the braking position quickly 
and easily.  It has been my experience that he was right.

John 

On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 7:49:32 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Tavan wrote:
>
> I'm putting together a commuter bike for my 18-mile commute because my 
> fancy bikes are too fancy and my Clem is too long to fit nicely in the bike 
> racks on the train back home. So I'm going to build up an old English 
> 3-speed that will hopefully fit the bill. For handlebars, I am thinking 
> about using the albastache with two sets of brake levers: reverse levers in 
> the ends for the casual upright stance, and cyclocross-style interrupter 
> levers on the curves for when I'm riding more aggressively. 
>
> Has anyone tried this? If so, how'd it work for you? I wonder if the 
> interrupter levers will even mount on/near those curves.
>

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[RBW] Hypothetical albastache handlebar setup

2016-09-25 Thread Jeremy Tavan 
I'm putting together a commuter bike for my 18-mile commute because my 
fancy bikes are too fancy and my Clem is too long to fit nicely in the bike 
racks on the train back home. So I'm going to build up an old English 
3-speed that will hopefully fit the bill. For handlebars, I am thinking 
about using the albastache with two sets of brake levers: reverse levers in 
the ends for the casual upright stance, and cyclocross-style interrupter 
levers on the curves for when I'm riding more aggressively. 

Has anyone tried this? If so, how'd it work for you? I wonder if the 
interrupter levers will even mount on/near those curves.

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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

2016-09-25 Thread Robert Barr 
Thank you Leah. I had been waiting for the next installment of the "Bicycle
Bus", and to follow Patrick, I much enjoyed it.  Bob


On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 5:16 PM, LeahFoy  wrote:

> Lol, Patrick Moore! That's high praise, indeed! My rides are not epic, but
> they are colorful! Thanks for the offer of the bike; I only wish I had
> someone it would fit!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rat Trap Pass tubeless on Atlas rims?

2016-09-25 Thread Reed Kennedy 
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Kellie  wrote:

> this page implies Atlas rims are tubeless ready: http://www.velocityusa.
> com/tech/rims/
>

Alas, it is not so. See here:
http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/atlas-622
The "Tire Interface" is stated as "Clincher".

On tubeless-ready Velocity stuff the "Tire Interface" mentions "Tubeless".
Like the A23 here: http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/a23-622


Best,
Reed


>
> On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 10:24:54 AM UTC-7, dstein wrote:
>>
>> Anyone mount Rat Trap Pass tubeless on Velocity Atlas rims? The tires are
>> tubeless ready but I don't think the rims are. I've asked tubeless
>> questions in the past and the general response I get is - if you use the
>> right tape and enough sealant, anything can be tubeless ;).
>>
>> Thinking of buying the Rivendell 26" dyno wheelset (vs. going a build
>> with something like the velocity cliffhanger rims)
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[RBW] Re: Bars for Climbing

2016-09-25 Thread Bustini 
Nice setup! 

On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 7:03:37 PM UTC-7, Kai Vierstra wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
> Bosco'd out of the box, then choco'd 
>
> -Kai
>
> On Saturday, September 24, 2016 at 11:51:53 AM UTC-4, Jim D Massachusetts 
> wrote:
>>
>> Kai,Thanks. Would love to see photo.   Jim  D   
>>  Massachusetts
>>
>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016 at 11:24:29 AM UTC-4, Kai Vierstra wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, I did (put choco-mooses on my Clem). They're great, wouldn't mind a 
>>> little more extension, but great regardless.
>>> Still plenty upright and comfy, and I love having the triangle to run a 
>>> cable through on extended lockups in the city. Never having to worry about 
>>> bar slippage or fussing with stem swaps in a quest for extension perfection 
>>> is another added bonus of the Bullmoose style. Will post a photo if that 
>>> helps your decision. 
>>> -Kai Vierstra 
>>> Brooklyn NY 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Bars for Climbing

2016-09-25 Thread Kai Vierstra 






Bosco'd out of the box, then choco'd 

-Kai

On Saturday, September 24, 2016 at 11:51:53 AM UTC-4, Jim D Massachusetts 
wrote:
>
> Kai,Thanks. Would love to see photo.   Jim  D   
>  Massachusetts
>
> On Saturday, September 24, 2016 at 11:24:29 AM UTC-4, Kai Vierstra wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I did (put choco-mooses on my Clem). They're great, wouldn't mind a 
>> little more extension, but great regardless.
>> Still plenty upright and comfy, and I love having the triangle to run a 
>> cable through on extended lockups in the city. Never having to worry about 
>> bar slippage or fussing with stem swaps in a quest for extension perfection 
>> is another added bonus of the Bullmoose style. Will post a photo if that 
>> helps your decision. 
>> -Kai Vierstra 
>> Brooklyn NY 
>
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[RBW] Re: 650b'd romulus

2016-09-25 Thread Sky Coulter 
Erl, I don't have callipers to measure the tire width, but holding up a 
tape measure it looks a little over 40mm - although I'm not sure the 
picture I took shows that very convincingly.  I also took another photo of 
the clearance with fender and tire and the crown, which seemed plenty to 
me. I put one up of the rear chainstay too. It isn't a great pic, but 
there's enough space side to side that I'm not really worried about it.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/140959259@N03/29305133423/in/dateposted-public/

Sky in new west

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>
> Sky,
> I am just now realizing you got 42 tires under fenders. Ian impressed! 
>  Could I trouble you for the actual width of the tires on your rims?  I 
> knew I had room to go wider, but I did not dream that wide.
> Thanks,
> Erl

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[RBW] 650b'd Redwood.

2016-09-25 Thread Lungimsam 
Cool 650b-ing.
Watch it with those stays!
I think I read that a tire can cut into a stay in no time.

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[RBW] WTB: Knickers (MUSA) size small

2016-09-25 Thread KTY 
In case anyone has a pair kicking around that doesn't get use... Pls drop a 
line with your price incl shipping: kolbyt at gmail dot com. 

Riv only has XS with no plans for a reorder on the horizon, strangely. 

Thx
Kolby

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[RBW] Re: 650b'd romulus

2016-09-25 Thread WETH 
Sky,
I am just now realizing you got 42 tires under fenders. Ian impressed!  Could I 
trouble you for the actual width of the tires on your rims?  I knew I had room 
to go wider, but I did not dream that wide.
Thanks,
Erl

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[RBW] Re: 650b'd romulus

2016-09-25 Thread Sky Coulter 
Thanks Richard...sky

On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 3:51:24 PM UTC-7, RichS wrote:
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> Very sweet! Enhanced by the F15 rack/Riv bag combination! 
>
> Best,
> Richard
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[RBW] ISO: riv frame

2016-09-25 Thread Belopsky 
I still have my 650b wheels and some brakes and some random parts, and I 
sort of want to build a bike, but it depends on price..

PBH of 83.x

effective top tube of 55.5 works best, no bigger. smaller may even be 
better..

let me know what you have..

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[RBW] FS: Nitto F15 Rack. $45 plus shipping.

2016-09-25 Thread David Banzer 
Bought this used off this list but never used it. 
One handlebar mount was drilled through and fastens with a nut on the 
underside. Will send photos to show. Functions just the same. 
$45 plus shipping, typically $6 USPS Priority mail. 
Can send a PP invoice. 
Contact off list if you can. 
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[RBW] Re: 650b'd romulus

2016-09-25 Thread RichS 
Very sweet! Enhanced by the F15 rack/Riv bag combination! 

Best,
Richard

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[RBW] Re: The Cheviot has arrived!

2016-09-25 Thread Belopsky 
http://store.somafab.com/irddoshmofor.html

On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 9:10:11 AM UTC-4, masmojo wrote:
>
> What sort of mount did you use for the shifters? I need something similar 
> for my Atlantis. Nice build, tempted to get one myself, but between my 
> Clementine & Atlantis it might be too much duplication.

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[RBW] Re: Rat Trap Pass tubeless on Atlas rims?

2016-09-25 Thread Kellie 
this page implies Atlas rims are tubeless 
ready: http://www.velocityusa.com/tech/rims/

On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 10:24:54 AM UTC-7, dstein wrote:
>
> Anyone mount Rat Trap Pass tubeless on Velocity Atlas rims? The tires are 
> tubeless ready but I don't think the rims are. I've asked tubeless 
> questions in the past and the general response I get is - if you use the 
> right tape and enough sealant, anything can be tubeless ;). 
>
> Thinking of buying the Rivendell 26" dyno wheelset (vs. going a build with 
> something like the velocity cliffhanger rims)
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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

2016-09-25 Thread LeahFoy 
Lol, Patrick Moore! That's high praise, indeed! My rides are not epic, but they 
are colorful! Thanks for the offer of the bike; I only wish I had someone it 
would fit!

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[RBW] Re: The Cheviot has arrived!

2016-09-25 Thread David Banzer 
Bike looks great! I'm trying to figure out how I can justify a Cheviot in 
my stable. I just broke my daily commuter, building up a VO Campeur as new 
commuter, but if that doesn't fit right, a Cheviot might be in my future.
Any chance you measured the actual width of the Compass Snoqualmie Pass 
tires?
I've seen that they run smaller than 44mm on typical road rims. I might 
need to order a pair just to have - could fit on a couple bikes depending 
on actual width.
David
Chicago

On Saturday, September 24, 2016 at 7:54:04 PM UTC-5, René wrote:
>
> What a fantastic bike! I cannot believe this is the last batch. I thought 
> it would not be possible, but I like it even more than the Betty. The fact 
> that it's my correct size probably has a lot to do with it. But it's more 
> than that alone. Being able to place the saddle further back (Darn Brooks 
> with its limited rearward positioning), the longer stays, the overall 
> feeling when riding it is pure bliss. Truly just ride!
>
> I rode 14 miles with a friend this morning, then met my wife for breakfast 
> at our favorite place in California Ave., and I was having so much fun that 
> I just didn't want to go back home. Kept riding to Palo Alto Bikes in 
> downtown to show it to my mechanic, then went onwards to Stanford where my 
> oldest daughter just started her MBA and managed to catch her so I took her 
> for brunch as well, although I didn't eat. Then finally rode home, since I 
> had to pack as I'm traveling this evening. 
>
> Some first impressions:
> - Wowed by the B67 Select. I keep wanting to sit a bit further back, but 
> it's quite comfortable and pushed all the way back. I did ride it with 
> padded knickers, but tested it for a short spin on regular shorts and found 
> it comfortable. Especially on the upright (not 100%) position I like. 
> - The Ahearne cockpit with Brooks slender grips is just fantastic. 
> - The shifters on the quill are just perfect for this bike. My mechanic 
> loved the setup. 
> - The 44mm tires are amazing. Tolerances for fenders, as you can see on 
> the photos, will be probably fine, but on the tighter side in terms of 
> extra clearance for safety. 
> - Like the Teltro brakes very much. Did swap their pads for the Yokozuna 
> salmon ones RBW sells. 
> - Added my custom aesthetic touches as you can see in the photos. The 
> kickstand with its own shellacked tape will be added when I get back. So 
> will the rear rack. I was planning to go with the Pleitecher rack, but 
> after seeing the bike built, I can't help but think it has to get the Nitto 
> rear rack. Another excellent improvement on this last series is that 
> braze-one were added in the seat stays higher than the dropout to allow for 
> the mid sized Nitto rear rack to fit. I like it much better since it goes 
> closer to the seat stays and the saddle. 
>
> Anyway, here are the photos. Enjoy! 
> https://flickr.com/photos/25160594@N05/sets/72157674336110365
>
> BTW, did I say that the blue Cheviot is the prettiest of them all?
>
> René 
>
> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, René Sterental  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Photos will come later, but on the Cheviot, since it's a mixte, the top 
>> tube intersects the seat tube in the middle, not at the top. For the rear 
>> center pull brake, you need the cable to be on the top of the tube so the 
>> cable yoke can be in front of the seat tube. Photos will clarify. And on a 
>> mixte for centerpulls, you only need one brazen-on on the front near the 
>> head tube, not both. But that single braze-on needs to be at the 12 o'clock 
>> position. On the Betty they were at 2 o'clock and some people were able to 
>> pull it off. I learned it a few weeks ago. My Betty had a front Paul 
>> centerpull and a rear Silver brake (like the Tektro). 
>>
>> Will report in clearances between the tires and the fenders later today. 
>>
>> René 
>>
>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, Jon Dukeman,central Colorado <
>> row.n.2nowh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Rene,
>>> Thanks for the update.
>>> I'm waiting for mine too. Excited about the blue.
>>> Anxious to hear about your tire/ fender clearance.
>>>
 Jon

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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

2016-09-25 Thread Patrick Moore 
*3. I think instead of arguing, I'm going to use kindness. The next time I
hear a negative comment, I'm going to hit the brakes, jump off my bike and
walk alongside the offender. "I heard what you said. So, you're displeased
with me, now tell me why." I'll explain that we can't use the street, and
that there's room for everyone on these wide sidewalks. Can someone really
be angry because I'm asking them not to hog the WHOLE sidewalk? Are we
REALLY inconveniencing you by passing you single-file at slow speed? Do you
think your annoyance at having to be considerate trumps our right to keep
our kids safe? Are you really so selfish that you would push 2nd graders
into traffic so you can have the entire extra-wide sidewalk?*

You go, girl!

Patrick "Givem guilt complexes" Moore, who uses a more direct approach in
ABQ, NM.

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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

2016-09-25 Thread Patrick Moore 
Sorry, that should be "narsty barstid."

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

>
> Patrick Moore, reading Dervla Murphy and recalling Paul Theroux (nasty
> bastard, but writes well), Eric Newby (hugely funny in his earlier
> publication, but lost steam by the time of the bike trip 'round Ireland),
> and Evelyn Waugh (another nasty bastard).
>
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[RBW] 650b'd Redwood.

2016-09-25 Thread David Banzer 
While I've converted my Redwood to 650b wheels in the past, I briefly 
swapped back to 700c wheels with Barlow Pass tires. 
I swapped out 650b as I had been using Vee Rubber Speedsters which measured 
47mm actual. Under heavy pedaling, the tires would rub at the chainstays. I 
could dent the chainstays for more clearance - the current indentations 
line up for a 700c tire - but I'd rather not if I don't have to.
When the WTB Horizon tires were announced, I patiently waited until they 
were released and some actual measurements were shared. My tools are mostly 
packed up so I don't have calipers, but I think they're around 44mm actual, 
which is perfect. I'll be adding some SKS fenders shortly - there is 
adequate clearances front/rear. 

My to do-list for this bike:
Swap cranks - Dura Ace crankset goes back to wife's Clementine, Shimano 
Deore/600 cranks will be put on w/ 46/34 rings
Change cassette - it'll be a custom 12-28 8-speed
Change brakes - going to try DC 750 centerpulls
Add fenders
Lower bars 1cm
Swap saddles - GB Aspin saddle will go on
Make up a set of rack-less bags

Photos here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BKyr5k9DUER/?taken-by=treetopdesigns
https://www.instagram.com/p/BKyr7G8jMAl/?taken-by=treetopdesigns
https://www.instagram.com/p/BKyr-i_jcof/?taken-by=treetopdesigns

David
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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

2016-09-25 Thread Patrick Moore 
* Why do I read Leah's quotidien report about kids and bikes and parents
riding 2 miles to school, when I'll sniff and put aside reports of epic
adventures across inaccessible deserts half a globe away?

The quality of writing, my friends, and the liveliness of the descriptions.
I remember reading "Miles from Nowhere," which should have been as exciting
a travelogue as any written. But no, the pedestrian prose and even more
pedestrian outlook made the book a bore.

Good work, Leah. Keep it up. Write a book and sell it on Amazon.

Patrick Moore, who has a well used 16" Diamond Back "Apex" fr/frk/bb
bearing assembly/hs/sp/saddle that he will ship for postage.

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bastard, but writes well), Eric Newby (hugely funny in his earlier
publication, but lost steam by the time of the bike trip 'round Ireland),
and Evelyn Waugh (another nasty bastard).

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 2:40 PM, LeahFoy  wrote:

> *The below is really just storytelling about a neighborhood and its kids
> and their bikes. There won't be anything informative or life-altering. It's
> really just my reflections on bringing back cycling in the suburbs.*

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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

2016-09-25 Thread LeahFoy 
*The below is really just storytelling about a neighborhood and its kids and 
their bikes. There won't be anything informative or life-altering. It's really 
just my reflections on bringing back cycling in the suburbs.*

We've been having a lot of new experiences on our bicycle bus. Lots of kids 
come and go, and no one rides every day, save us, but we usually have a a 
couple of kids join us. One day, we picked up a group of 3 girls. N is a 5th 
grader who was a guest of the regular pair of sisters who join us. N's little 
sister was being worked up for a possible cancer diagnosis, and her mother had 
sent her to stay with family friends for a couple of days. She was thrown into 
the bicycle bus without any say in the matter and when I met her that morning, 
she was white with panic. 

"Are you scared?" I asked her. "No," she said, "I'm TERRIFIED." 

Okay then. I tried to puff up her courage a bit, and we set off down the giant 
hill, traveling more slowly than normal. We made it to campus without incident 
and N took a deep breath and began to focus on more important matters. "I like 
your bike," she said, "because it has hearts and apples!" It's the little 
things.

A family of 4 has been joining us as we ride by their house at least twice per 
week. Both parents like to come when they can, and they have a 3rd grader and 
2nd grader. Those kids are riding Diamondback bikes in their proper sizes, 
which are a major improvement from the cheap and too-small sized bikes the rest 
of the kids ride. But the Diamondbacks are still heavy what with their 
suspension forks and all, and they have no way to carry luggage or water. Mom 
rides an Electra and Dad has a Gary Fischer mountain bike.  Mom and Dad take 
the backpacks and use a Camelback water system, which they share. I sent Mom a 
link to racks for her Electra, and she is looking into purchasing one.

The pair of sisters L and G may get new bikes for Christmas. L rides her 
mother's big, fendered cruiser-type bike, which has a rear rack. She's been to 
Walmart, dreaming of which bike she would like. I bite my tongue, but I really 
want to tell her to look for a Specialized on Craigslist. The Hotrock can take 
a rack and has been a great bike for my older son. G is on a Barbie bike that 
is a mere 20 inches and she is a 5th grader. It is painful to watch her wobble 
to school with her knees knocking her chin, and her lunch bag swinging madly 
from her bars. 

The bike racks at school are now full to bursting with bikes and scooters. It's 
a welcome sight, but also gives me a pang of sadness. Almost none of the bikes 
are good for commuting. Most are woefully small for the rider. M is a kid who 
describes his dad as being a "bike racer." M was given a new lime green 
Specialized Hotrock to ride to school. The problem is that M is a 5th grader, 
and he is riding the 20 inch bike. It would fit my 2nd grader. He loves the 
bike; I know he does because he tried and tried to ride it, and lime green 
appears to be his favorite color. But wobbling home while having to carry your 
35 lb backpack and Chromebook and lunch sack and eventually, a musical 
instrument wasn't feasible. So now he walks. He trudges along, laden with stuff 
and his shiny lime Hotrock sits, neglected in the garage.

We live in an affluent area. Most of these kids are shuttled to school with 
zero effort of their own, and zero discomfort. It's a valet line in the car 
loop. A school employee opens your door, and you jump out. That's IT. That's 
the end of your obligation to get to school, kid. Meanwhile, the kids who are 
trying to get there by bike are doing it on the most ill-fitting, ill-equipped 
machines. Their parents would say a quality bike is too expensive; but they 
don't say that when plunking down the money for their child's new iPhone. This 
is not a problem I can fix, so I am learning to let it go...

The new issue I'm seeing on our horizon is that of unhappy pedestrians. We had 
6 kids and 2 moms bookending them on Thursday, and that's a lot of bikes. We 
live in a terribly car-centric area. Everyone commutes by car into the city, 
which means cars are heading down our mountain at around 50 mph. There is no 
shoulder, and no bike lane, and only one road and we all must share it. We 
were, however, blessed with extra wide sidewalks; they are actually called 
"trails" and given their width, I heartily agree. The problem is that 
pedestrians of all types - dog walkers, joggers, moms with strollers - often 
don't understand they aren't the only ones using the trails. They zig zag and 
walk on the left, or just take up the whole thing and walk right in the middle. 
This poses a problem. I really get the feeling that they think of bell-ringing 
as honking. No one has ever responded positively to it, that I can tell. So, 
rather than *ding ding*, before I pass, I call out, "Good morning!" They 
usually get the hint and either move over or hold their line. It's all mostly 
smooth until

Re: [RBW] A plug to buy something from Rivendell Bicycle Works: A Nitto F-15 rack

2016-09-25 Thread Ron Mc 
a small rando-type bag than hangs from the F-15, possibly smaller than usual

On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 2:22:03 PM UTC-5, Frank Brose wrote:
>
> Please do! If you don't mind me asking what is he cooking up? I'm looking 
> forward to the pictures. If for nothing else to see more of Ely's work. 
> Beautiful bags.
>
> On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 10:23:10 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> Ely is at work for me - I'll post a photo in a few weeks.  
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] A plug to buy something from Rivendell Bicycle Works: A Nitto F-15 rack

2016-09-25 Thread Frank Brose 
Please do! If you don't mind me asking what is he cooking up? I'm looking 
forward to the pictures. If for nothing else to see more of Ely's work. 
Beautiful bags.

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> Ely is at work for me - I'll post a photo in a few weeks.  
>
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Small Gray Trunk Sack/King Cages/Berthoud Touring Saddles

2016-09-25 Thread johnb 
Updates based on feedback

Pictures of Saddle 1 - https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B04GY8gBYGYFjtE
Pictures of Saddle 2 - https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B045nhQSTngYSf
Pictures of Grey Trunk Sack - 
https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B04G6XBubG6W35L

Questions posted answered.

Yes, these are the Berthoud Touring Saddles 
- 
http://boulderbicycle.bike/Saddles-and-Seatposts/Saddles/Modern-Saddles/Berthoud-saddles-and-related-parts-and-treatment/berthoud-aspin-mens-touring-saddle-steel-rail-various-colors.html

Note: Cork is no longer sold so these are a bit rare.

Both saddles have been ridden @2,000 miles so you should assume they are 
broken in. Having said that, I weigh 155 lbs so they have not been 
stretched much. Both have been scraped up by minor falls, think bike 
tipping over not wrecks. I have tried to capture the damage as best as 
possible.

Both saddles have been caught out in the rain on occasion. I have tried to 
cover them as much as possible but they have gotten wet at one time or 
another. In theory these are water resistant leather. They are more 
resistant than Brooks but I would recommend that you still bring your 
saddle cover with you. Just sayin... 

I am letting them go because I live in the East and like manual 
transmissions, sometimes you get tired of the overhead of great cool stuff. 
I would rather have Cambium saddles and not have to always check to see if 
I have a cover or not. Or rummage through a trashcan for a plastic bag, 
etc. They are beautiful saddles, very comfortable but not for me anymore. 

john

On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 8:41:19 AM UTC-4, johnb wrote:
>
> Cages gone. 

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Re: [RBW] Rat Trap Pass tubeless on Atlas rims?

2016-09-25 Thread Patrick Moore 
Not my experience, alas. I've had experts set up tubeless ready tires on
tubeless unready rims with lotsa tape, and while it worked after a fashion,
it was chancy whether the beads would stay tight against the rim when air
pressure was released; IOW, the setup required air pressure to secure the
beads firmly. Real tubeless setups (eg, F Freds and Velocity Blunt SS's)
don't require air pressure to keep the beads in place.

Why not rely on air pressure, you ask? Well me, I fear finding, 20 miles
from home, after a tire deflates, that I have no way of getting bead and
rim back together again.

Still, if the truth of the assertion cannot be held to be universally true,
your setup might work, and I'd be interested to hear if it does.

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:24 AM, dstein  wrote:

>  I've asked tubeless questions in the past and the general response I get
> is - if you use the right tape and enough sealant, anything can be tubeless
> ;).
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[RBW] Re: Rat Trap Pass tubeless on Atlas rims?

2016-09-25 Thread Belopsky 
I too have the Atlas rims and have thought about it, but have not tried.

On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 1:34:10 PM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
>
> great question, the velocity atlas rims are not tubeless ready s0 - yes 
> with the right tape and sealant, they would be, potentially?
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[RBW] Re: Rat Trap Pass tubeless on Atlas rims?

2016-09-25 Thread Belopsky 
great question, the velocity atlas rims are not tubeless ready s0 - yes 
with the right tape and sealant, they would be, potentially?

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[RBW] Rat Trap Pass tubeless on Atlas rims?

2016-09-25 Thread dstein 
Anyone mount Rat Trap Pass tubeless on Velocity Atlas rims? The tires are 
tubeless ready but I don't think the rims are. I've asked tubeless 
questions in the past and the general response I get is - if you use the 
right tape and enough sealant, anything can be tubeless ;). 

Thinking of buying the Rivendell 26" dyno wheelset (vs. going a build with 
something like the velocity cliffhanger rims)

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[RBW] DC Area Friends Meet-up?

2016-09-25 Thread Howard Hatten 
Chris, I rode the gap @ c this past spring. You'll enjoy much nicer trail 
conditions on the gap. Hopefully fall colors will greet you. If you camp at one 
place I recommend Husky Haven Campground in Rockwood. Reserve early enough and 
your group might get a covered campsite. They have a few. Very nice owners & 
firewood is plentiful. (Free). 
If my wife didn't have a surgery coming up I would join you. Have a nice ride. 

Howard
Livonia Mi

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[RBW] DC Area Friends Meet-up?

2016-09-25 Thread Pondero 
I was fortunate to meet several of you DC area folks last year when I came 
out for the C tour.  Some of you even rode and camped with us.  We had 
such a great time, we wanted to come back and do something similar this 
year.

Me, son-in-law Carey, and Steve Butcher (graveldoc) are planning a return 
this year for the GAP trail tour.  Like last year, our itinerary is a 
little constrained.  But we want to extend the invitation for you to join 
in, or meet-up somewhere, just in case it works out.  The plan looks like 
this...

Thursday (10/6) - arrive in Silver Spring

Friday (10/7) - time with my grandson, but flexible for a meet-up

Saturday (10/8) - part of day devoted to family outing, but also 
coffeeneuring somewhere in Silver Spring, morning meet-up opportunity

Sunday (10/9) - drive to Pittsburgh, hoping to drop in at Gravel and Grind 
for a visit on the way

Monday-Thursday (10/10 to 10/13) - ride from Pittsburgh to Cumberland, MD 
on the GAP trail, some camping, some lodging

Friday (10/14) - time with my grandson, but some flexibility for a meet-up

Saturday (10/15) - return to Texas

I've already had a couple of offline conversations with a couple of you, 
and hope we'll be able to visit with you again this year.  If anyone is 
interested in riding the GAP trail with us, I'll be happy to provide more 
details on our anticipated schedule for that.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] FS: 64 Orange Rambouillet frame (f,f,hs)

2016-09-25 Thread alan lavine 
As per my previous posts,which contain pics of the full build, I am listing 
the frame only.  Condition as noted before, suitable for a 650b conversion. 
 Serial # RB 038.

Asking $850

Thanks,
Alan

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Re: [RBW] A plug to buy something from Rivendell Bicycle Works: A Nitto F-15 rack

2016-09-25 Thread Ron Mc 
Ely is at work for me - I'll post a photo in a few weeks.  


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Re: [RBW] Tire trouble & puzzlement

2016-09-25 Thread Ron Mc 
I had a Challenge Chicane tubular that came apart at a casing defect on the 
3rd ride -


 biketiresdirect handled warranty for me


On Saturday, September 24, 2016 at 8:25:03 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Michael: I successfully and amicably warranteed a 2d hand pair of Schwabe 
> Kojaks  some months after purchase, when  I found the beads to be 
> defective. I was the second owner, but I contacted Kojak, they requested 
> photos, and after reviewing them, agreed to send me a new pair. 
>
> It might be worth a try ...
>
> Patrick Moore, slowly getting the hang of an Android tablet.
> On Sep 24, 2016 2:23 PM, "Michael Hechmer"  > wrote:
>
>> Yesterday afternoon while out for a short but pleasant ride on the 
>> Saluki, about 10 miles around a loop and five miles from home, I suddenly 
>> became aware of a slight bumping sensation, which I surmised was coming 
>> from my front tire.  I couldn't see anything wrong with it but rode the 
>> last 5 miles very cautiously.  At home I found a bump right across the 
>> tread.  The tire is a nearly new Pari-Moto.  I removed the tire and on the 
>> inside discovered an inch long slit in the casing.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I bought the tire early last Summer, then decided to 
>> experiment with the Fatty Bumpkins which came on Pat's Betty but didn't 
>> actually fit very well.  Recently I realized I wasn't riding the Saluki 
>> much and suspected it was the tires which were leading me to avoid it.  
>> About two weeks ago I put the new Pari-Motos on and fell in love with the 
>> bike again.
>>
>> So, bottom line, even if I was certain this was a mfg. defect it would be 
>> hard to make a claim now.  I tried putting three rolls of electrical tape 
>> across the slit but the bubble returned.
>>
>> I cant think of any way the inside of the casing could have failed with 
>> out anything coming through the tire.  The only other hypothesis I might 
>> have is that in order to seat the tire properly I had blown it up to 85, 
>> which is 10 more than the recommended max.  After the I was sure the bead 
>> was on straight, I let some air out but don't own a gage and so didn't 
>> recheck the pressure.  Still it seems pretty remote that I could have 
>> damaged it.
>>
>> Michael
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[RBW] Re: The Cheviot has arrived!

2016-09-25 Thread René Sterental 
It's the IRD quill mount that RBW sells, but they are currently out of
them.

René

On Sunday, September 25, 2016, masmojo  wrote:

> What sort of mount did you use for the shifters? I need something similar
> for my Atlantis. Nice build, tempted to get one myself, but between my
> Clementine & Atlantis it might be too much duplication.
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[RBW] Re: The Cheviot has arrived!

2016-09-25 Thread masmojo 
What sort of mount did you use for the shifters? I need something similar for 
my Atlantis. Nice build, tempted to get one myself, but between my Clementine & 
Atlantis it might be too much duplication.

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[RBW] FS: Small Gray Trunk Sack/King Cages/Berthoud Touring Saddles

2016-09-25 Thread johnb 
Cages gone. 

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[RBW] Re: Silver DT shifters on Simplex band braze ons?

2016-09-25 Thread Call Me Jay 
Thanks for all of the tips and insight.  Upon closer inspection, my bike 
apparently has a half band with a frame braze on the other side.  Looks like 
I'm stuck using Simplex.

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