[RBW] Re: Walkapillar s240 ride report

[christian poppell]

Google maps has gotten me into trouble more than once.
Looks like a ton of fun though! Adversity makes life interesting! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell ThumbShifters?

[Hugh Smitham]

Brilliant how?

~h

On Mar 25, 2017 9:33 PM, "Joe Bernard"  wrote:

> Because the old Suntour power ratchet thumbies were brilliant, and he
> wanted to make new ones.
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell ThumbShifters?

[Joe Bernard]

Because the old Suntour power ratchet thumbies were brilliant, and he wanted to 
make new ones. 

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[RBW] Re: Still seeking Butternut?

[adam leibow]

If there were a chance you'd sell the 51 as a F/F/HS, I might be 
interested. 

On Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 8:16:57 AM UTC-7, Christopher Wiggins wrote:
>
> We've got one 51 and one 46 Butternut Appaloosa left in stock.  Complete 
> bikes.  Can box and ship.  $2300 plus the actual cost of shipping from 
> Indy.  Feel free to contact us directly.  info AT a1cyclery DOT com
>
> Thanks!
>
> Chris Wiggins
> Owner
> A1 Cyclery
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[RBW] Re: Any recommendations for grips on a Bullmoose handlebar?

[Jeremy Tavan]

I use bullmoose bars on my Clem, and have been using WTB Comfort Zone grips 
on them. I find them quite comfortable. If I were doing more aggressive 
off-road riding where I needed to be able to rotate my grip more, I'd 
probably go with something more rounded, but for my use (mainly pavement, 
occasional trail) these have worked well and are inexpensive.

https://www.wtb.com/products/comfort-zone-clamp-on

/Jeremy

On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 8:44:58 PM UTC-7, Max Bergen wrote:
>
> I'm putting a Bullmoose handlebar on my new Hunqapillar. Using the bike 
> for commuting around town (pavement) 50% of the time and trail riding 
> around Southern California the other 50% of the time. 
>
> Would appreciate any and all recommendations for a pair of grips. 
>  
>
> Cheers, 
> Max
> San Diego
>

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[RBW] Any recommendations for grips on a Bullmoose handlebar?

[Max Bergen]

I'm putting a Bullmoose handlebar on my new Hunqapillar. Using the bike for 
commuting around town (pavement) 50% of the time and trail riding around 
Southern California the other 50% of the time. 

Would appreciate any and all recommendations for a pair of grips. 
 

Cheers, 
Max
San Diego

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[RBW] Re: E

[Sky Coulter]

Sorry, i think i pocket dialed this post...sky

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell ThumbShifters?

[Hugh Smitham]

Why does Riv need to produce thumb shifters?? 

Shimino & Microshift are fine. 

~h

On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 3:33:08 PM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
> I was wonbdering if anyone had heard anymore about when the new thumb 
> shifters would be available?
>

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[RBW] Re: Walkapillar s240 ride report

[Hugh Smitham]

Good story Drew!

Good on you for getting out. When things go sideways adventure happens.

Bummer 'bout the friends bailing.

Peace,

~h

On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 6:44:20 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> I went out after work last night to meet some friends at Musch camp in 
> Topanga CA, which is only about 18 miles from where i work. about 14 of 
> those 18 are on dirt roads and trails up in the santa monica mountains. 
> Early on, a guy from Road Bike Action Magazine stopped and asked if he 
> could take my picture with my bike. Im not sure there are lots of people 
> riding non suspended bikes up there and carrying a bunch of stuff. a few 
> other people knew what a Rivendell was though, so that was cool. The ride 
> in was really nice, but at the end of it, it turned into steep, descending 
> singletrack with big rocks and steps. So i hiked it in, but thought that i 
> should try to find another way back when i left, so i wouldnt have to carry 
> the bike up that. My friends bailed, so i just stayed the one night. I 
> looked at google maps for a new way back and their recommended route looked 
> ok on paper. In actuality, it involved sneaking through someone's backyard 
> to get to the trail, the trail turning out to be a completely overgrown 
> horse trail with a grade that i could barely walk up, being chased by dogs 
> while pushing the bike through what you see in the last photo, and 
> introducing me to the effects of poison oak for the first time. Google maps 
> lesson learned. The hunqapillar didnt flinch. 
>
>
>
> 
>  
> 
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> 
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> 
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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Cheviot Complete

[David Banzer]

PM sent, but am on mobile - unsure if it went through. 
David 
River Grove, IL

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Re: [RBW] Pano's built up Rivendell custom on Rivendell flicker

[Patrick Moore]

Pano: thanks for the well thought out description and analysis. You have
made a very good case for the Albastaches! My one concern at this point is
the width; I dislike bars much wider than 44 cm -- 25 years ago I used to
cut 2" off each side of my mountain bike bars, and weren't those bars
already narrow by modern standards? My road bikes have 38 cm drop bars (I'm
a medium-sized 5'10" with much of my height in my torso, but I still like
narrow bars).

If I tried the Albastaches, I'd try them on the Matthews -- a lightish drop
bar'd dirt road bike, which I ride on our local sandy terrain. Currently it
has 42 cm at-the-hoods Maes Parallels. I suppose the sit up and beg
position, with arms wide, would be alright because you are almost sure to
be taking it easy and going slow. How wide between the mid points of the
bends? That position does look doable; and the hoods of course are nice and
narrow. The width of the original Moustache bar doesn't bother me, but
that's because I always ride on the curves or on the hoods.

Hmmm ...


On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 5:22 PM, panog  wrote:

> @Patric Moore
>
> Thank you and yes, it is a custom.
>
> In reference to your comments on the Albastache, I'll try to convey my
> thoughts on them over a use of about 500 miles which admidetly is neither
> long nor diverse enough so consider the following as work in progress.
>
> I have found three distinct hand positions on the Albastache. In front of
> the bar-ends (in line with the quill), mid-way up from the bar-ends (in
> front of the quill), on the bar hook and lastly on the brake levers. The
> first two result in a more upright posture and more compact cockpit while
> the last two get you flatter and more stretched out. Flatter and stretched
> out means more efficient power generation and generally less air
> resistance. Can these two reach the levels achieved by a PROPERLY set drop
> bar? I dont think so but they could be close enough and that's the
> compromise one must be willing to accept in return for the most
> comfortable, more upright position the Albastache offer, if such position
> is in pursuit.
>
> Both the Albastache and the drops attempt to reach their usability range
> but I think they are doing so starting from polar opposite positions. The
> drops start from the more power - more speed prospective and compromise
> from there to a more comfort - more user friendly state while the
> Albastache start from a more comfort -more upright prospective and
> compromise to a more power - more speed state. As such, therefore, they
> should not, IMO, be considered as a direct replacement for each other if
> the intended purpose of the bike does not warrant it. What I'm saying here
> is that I would not use the Albastache for a bike whose purpose was crit
> racing or sprinting but I could consider experimenting with them on a
> touring bike where power output and speed could be willingly compromised in
> exchange of comfort.
>
> Regarding the number of hand positions available on either, I have
> empirically concluded that either offers enough and do not consider this to
> be a factor any more. This is coming from someone who has undergone
> surgical intervention to release the ulnar nerves at the elbow from
> sustained abuse caused by long rides and not so good fitting cockpits.
>
> Regarding the air resistance and ducking the wind you mentioned, I am
> still experimenting with that but not for the reasons you may have
> expected. When the head-on winds pick up, the conventional approach has
> been to get to the drops. The German Tour magazine did some interesting
> wind tunnel tests studying the drag imposed on the rider from different
> posture positions. They found that tucking on the tops with elbows down is
> superior, drag reduction wise, to tucking on the drops. Reason being that
> width of frontal area (not just height) plays a significant part in
> creating drag. Either bar when handled like that gets similar results.
> However, the problem I personally have with this approach and higher speeds
> is loss of stability.
>
> I think you should give the Albastache a try and judge for yourself. I
> know I'm keeping them on the Riv for the foreseeable future. The
> differences with the Moustache you mentioned, are shallower drop (2.5 cm
> vs. 5 cm), shallower hooks and a touch more width.
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[RBW] Walkapillar s240 ride report

[drew]

I went out after work last night to meet some friends at Musch camp in 
Topanga CA, which is only about 18 miles from where i work. about 14 of 
those 18 are on dirt roads and trails up in the santa monica mountains. 
Early on, a guy from Road Bike Action Magazine stopped and asked if he 
could take my picture with my bike. Im not sure there are lots of people 
riding non suspended bikes up there and carrying a bunch of stuff. a few 
other people knew what a Rivendell was though, so that was cool. The ride 
in was really nice, but at the end of it, it turned into steep, descending 
singletrack with big rocks and steps. So i hiked it in, but thought that i 
should try to find another way back when i left, so i wouldnt have to carry 
the bike up that. My friends bailed, so i just stayed the one night. I 
looked at google maps for a new way back and their recommended route looked 
ok on paper. In actuality, it involved sneaking through someone's backyard 
to get to the trail, the trail turning out to be a completely overgrown 
horse trail with a grade that i could barely walk up, being chased by dogs 
while pushing the bike through what you see in the last photo, and 
introducing me to the effects of poison oak for the first time. Google maps 
lesson learned. The hunqapillar didnt flinch. 



 

 

 




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[RBW] Re: 700 x 45-50 options

[Kieran J]

The Thunder Burt is an excellent tire, and rolls well on pavement - 
especially the LiteStar variant.

If you considering that tire, you might also look at the Clement X'plor MSO 
in 700x50. I've been riding the 40mm version pretty much exclusively 
throughout this weirdly snowless winter, and they have done very well. 
Fast, quiet and comfy.

KJ
Toronto, Canada
 

On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 9:58:32 AM UTC-4, Trenker wrote:
>
> What is available in tires 700 x 45-50 for commuting and touring? For an 
> Atlantis on synergy rims. I have used Marathon Supremes in 700 x 40. They 
> are really nice tires and I have toured with them. Most of the paved and 
> unpaved roads in my area are fine with these, but some newly laid gravel 
> can need a wider tire. 
>
>
> I have Compass 700x44 and they are very light tires. For touring they’d be 
> all right because even if I get a flat every couple of days it doesn’t 
> matter, since I stop to rest anyway. But they are hardly bigger than the 
> Compass 700x38, they measure about 40-42 mm on my rims. For combined 
> touring and commuting I want something a bit sturdier than the Compass and 
> a bit lighter construction than the Marathon Supreme, at least 45 mm wide.  
> I want to make good use of the clearance on the Atlantis.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: E

[Jim M.]

https://youtu.be/2374KUMOYQ8?t=9

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On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 5:57:24 PM UTC-7, Sky Coulter wrote:
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[RBW] E

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[RBW] Re: 700 x 45-50 options

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The Thunder Burts will not be a hindrance on the pavement. I consistently 
out-roll guys on 700 x 28 Compass Extra Lights with my 26 x 2.1 Thunder 
Burts. Real quiet, too. Excellent tire. Here they are for $32 each in 
700:   *http://tinyurl.com/ma5m4xg*

On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 1:00:29 PM UTC-4, Trenker wrote:
>
>
> "How about the Schwalbe Thunderbert  700 x 2.1. A friend is running those 
> on his Atlantis and felt a big difference over the 700 x 50 Marathon 
> Mondials that he replaced. Steve"
>
> These sound good. I like Schwalbe tires, I've never had one that wasn't 
> well-made. How are they for riding a whole day on 70 % pavement/ 30 % 
> gravel? I used to have legs like tree trunks but now I want something that 
> makes life a bit easier. 
>
> David
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] The next Velo Lumino product: rear fender reinforcement plate

[Julian Westerhout]

Jay, that pint-sized Jack Taylor is spectacular! I also love your 
daughter's joyful grin. 

Kudos to you! 


Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 1:53:12 PM UTC-5, Jay wrote:
>
> Eric,
>
> I created a custom reinforcement plate for my daughters Jack Taylor using 
> a stock 1" aluminum strap that can be found at most local hardware stores. 
> You simply trace out the shape you want, cut with a hacksaw or scroll saw, 
> then file and and polish. I used a round file to give it a little camber on 
> the bottom and allow it to sit evenly on the fender, and a flat file to 
> taper the edges and overall thin it out. Various grits of sand paper and 
> Simichrome brought it to a mirror shine.
>
> I wanted one a little longer/narrower than those available at the time, 
> I'm happy with how it turned out. 
> Takes a little time but well worth the effort.
>
> A few images for reference:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wnbvaaqck7fw1u5/2017-03-22%2011.56.48.jpg?dl=0
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/hwvg3m071u3j31m/2017-03-22%2011.55.29.jpg?dl=0
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/r7esxwncvzrxy2l/2017-03-22%2011.55.09.jpg?dl=0
>
> https://plus.google.com/photos/111412591633365066438/album/6270196811045780369?authkey=CJXtxJeHp63RyQE
>
> As a side note Anton does great work and I'm sure the plates he's created 
> are top-notch. He modernized the lights on the little Jack, and they work 
> fantastic!
>
> Jay Fichialos
> Pleasant Grove, Utah, USA
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:57 AM, George Schick  > wrote:
>
>> Eric - looking at the photo I can see why you don't want the extra 
>> holes.  But how do you keep it from shifting or turning sideways a bit from 
>> vibration, etc. without the bolts?  Contact cement?  Or is the 
>> diamond-shaped plate beveled in such a way that it conforms to the 
>> curvature of the fender, which keeps it in place?  If the latter, how would 
>> you create something like that?  Seems like you'd need a die or something 
>> to shape it.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 10:24:02 AM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>>>
>>> The advantage is purely aesthetic-trying to replicate the original 
>>> Singer part. I'll look into getting a piece of an old fender somewhere.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> --Eric N
>>> www.CampyOnly.com
>>> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
>>> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>>
>>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Anton Tutter  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Eric,
>>>
>>> I order all my stock pre-cut and drilled and then polished. I'd have to 
>>> do a special run of a single-hole version, and I have to order quite a few 
>>> to make them cost-effective.
>>>
>>> Aside from aesthetics, what is the practical advantage, if any, to 
>>> having as single hole? I would think it would act less as a strain relief 
>>> in this way. It would still "cradle" the fender, but I would imagine its 
>>> overall net benefit is less.
>>>
>>> If you're good with tin-snips and have a spare fender you can use as a 
>>> donor, you could cut a few out and polish them.
>>>
>>> Anton
>>> velolumino.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 12:22:13 AM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:

 Anton:

 I wonder if you can make one of these for me with just the center hole, 
 to match the reinforcement on my Singer:



 --Eric Norris
 campyo...@me.com
 @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)

 On Mar 19, 2016, at 7:19 AM, Anton Tutter  wrote:

 Velo Lumino is expanding into the "fender installation widget" space. 
 The first of several widgets in this category is a reinforcement plate 
 inspired by the old French constructeurs. It reduces fender stress fatigue 
 at a common failure location by reducing localized stress risers. And it 
 looks damn fine while doing it. Photo below is on a VO Zeppelin 650B 
 fender. The plate is thin enough (0.64mm) that is doesn't noticeably alter 
 the fender line of existing fender installations, and its shape can be 
 tweaked by hand to follow different fender contours.


 



 


 It's cut from aluminum sheet stock using water jet technology. It's 
 then pressed onto a curved form to create a nominal fender cross-section 
 radius and finally it's machine polished to a mirror finish. Two flat-head 
 stainless M3 bolts with flat washers, star washers, nuts and a leather 
 washer for the bridge are included in the price.


 $17 on velolumino.com 
 

 Anton, who is working on yet more fender installation widgets...

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[RBW] Re: 700 x 45-50 options

[drew]

i went through this quest a few weeks back, trying something different from 
700x50 marathon supremes  i wanted to try thunder burts, but in the time it 
took me to try to figure out the various versions, i stumbled on wtb nano's 
for 12$ each. i just finished a little 2 day trip on them and they were 
awesome, especially for the price. this trip was 90% dirt though, and the 
tires are bigger than youre looking for. i probably wouldnt use them if i 
was primarily on roads.  i have smart sams on another bike. they are nice, 
but even less road oriented than the wtb's.  i still really like the big 
marathons, and will probably move back to them in a few months. thunder 
burts are also still on the list to try and soma cazaderos... and those 
maxxis ones too...

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Cheviot Complete

[Clayton.sf]

back in the block.

and willing to part out. 

$720 for the frame, headset, kickstand, BB. Frame is in near pristine 
condition. there has been a little bit of pain removed on the right real 
dropout and clear coated. this was done by rivendell to clear the chain better 
in three lowest cog and does not affect the ride.

  I am happy to discuss any of the parts you might like as well.

thanks ks,
Clayton Scott
SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: Pick your paint Hunq

[Philip Kim]

They probably had a bare frame already made and you pick the color, it would be 
a faster turnaround since the frame is already built, rather than waiting for 
the frame to be built before paint

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Re: [RBW] Pano's built up Rivendell custom on Rivendell flicker

[panog]

@Patric Moore

Thank you and yes, it is a custom.

In reference to your comments on the Albastache, I'll try to convey my thoughts 
on them over a use of about 500 miles which admidetly is neither long nor 
diverse enough so consider the following as work in progress.

I have found three distinct hand positions on the Albastache. In front of the 
bar-ends (in line with the quill), mid-way up from the bar-ends (in front of 
the quill), on the bar hook and lastly on the brake levers. The first two 
result in a more upright posture and more compact cockpit while the last two 
get you flatter and more stretched out. Flatter and stretched out means more 
efficient power generation and generally less air resistance. Can these two 
reach the levels achieved by a PROPERLY set drop bar? I dont think so but they 
could be close enough and that's the compromise one must be willing to accept 
in return for the most comfortable, more upright position the Albastache offer, 
if such position is in pursuit.

Both the Albastache and the drops attempt to reach their usability range but I 
think they are doing so starting from polar opposite positions. The drops start 
from the more power - more speed prospective and compromise from there to a 
more comfort - more user friendly state while the Albastache start from a more 
comfort -more upright prospective and compromise to a more power - more speed 
state. As such, therefore, they should not, IMO, be considered as a direct 
replacement for each other if the intended purpose of the bike does not warrant 
it. What I'm saying here is that I would not use the Albastache for a bike 
whose purpose was crit racing or sprinting but I could consider experimenting 
with them on a touring bike where power output and speed could be willingly 
compromised in exchange of comfort.

Regarding the number of hand positions available on either, I have empirically 
concluded that either offers enough and do not consider this to be a factor any 
more. This is coming from someone who has undergone surgical intervention to 
release the ulnar nerves at the elbow from sustained abuse caused by long rides 
and not so good fitting cockpits.

Regarding the air resistance and ducking the wind you mentioned, I am still 
experimenting with that but not for the reasons you may have expected. When the 
head-on winds pick up, the conventional approach has been to get to the drops. 
The German Tour magazine did some interesting wind tunnel tests studying the 
drag imposed on the rider from different posture positions. They found that 
tucking on the tops with elbows down is superior, drag reduction wise, to 
tucking on the drops. Reason being that width of frontal area (not just height) 
plays a significant part in creating drag. Either bar when handled like that 
gets similar results. However, the problem I personally have with this approach 
and higher speeds is loss of stability.

I think you should give the Albastache a try and judge for yourself. I know I'm 
keeping them on the Riv for the foreseeable future. The differences with the 
Moustache you mentioned, are shallower drop (2.5 cm vs. 5 cm), shallower hooks 
and a touch more width.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bags

[dougP]

Yes.  It also you to secure your bag to the tombstone.  Some current Nitto 
racks have done away with it.  

dougP

On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 9:02:04 AM UTC-7, Roberta wrote:
>
> Mark, 
>
> What is a tombstone? Is it that small "uplift" at the end of the rack, so 
> that your items don't shift into your seatpost?
>
> Roberta
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 11:02:57 PM UTC-4, Dave Johnston wrote:
>
>> ... I 
>> would recommend a rear rack without a "tombstone" for compatibility 
>> with a Sackville. ...
>> -Dave 
>>
>> On 3/20/17, Broccoli Cog  wrote: 
>> > Great advice as always. Thank you all. After giving this some more 
>> thought 
>> > today I asked myself "why not install a rear rack?" I came to the 
>> > conclusion that a Mark's rack installed on the rear would be perfect in 
>> > conjunction with the medium Sackville. Now I just need to wait for RIv 
>> to 
>> > have them back in stock. 
>> > 
>> > On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 8:47:32 AM UTC-4, Broccoli Cog wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> Hi everyone, I was wondering if I could get some thoughts on a new 
>> saddle 
>> >> 
>> >> bag for my Sam. My current setup is I have a Mark's rack on the front 
>> >> combined with a Wald 137 Basket and a Swift Industries Sugar Loaf bag. 
>> My 
>> >> 
>> >> saddlebag is a Sackville X-small. This is a great set up for all 
>> around 
>> >> riding. I am considering adding a saddle bag that will allow me to 
>> carry 
>> >> some extra cargo. I don't have a rear rack and don't have any 
>> intention of 
>> >> 
>> >> adding one. That limits me to the Small or the Medium Sackville. I am 
>> >> trying to decide between these two sizes and I am not sure what to do. 
>> My 
>> >> 
>> >> goal is to have a bag big enough for commuting and possibly some S24O 
>> >> trips. I don't currently have the gear for the overnight camping and 
>> >> wonder 
>> >> really how much I'll get to do that. I was initially leaning towards 
>> the 
>> >> small but thought why not get the medium. I might be happy to have the 
>> >> extra space when I need it. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! 
>> >> 
>> >> Tim 
>> >> 
>> >> 
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[RBW] Re: 700 x 45-50 options

[dougP]

A while back, one of the guys at Rivendell said you'd drive yourself nuts 
trying to figure out Schwalbe's tire selection, and recommended the Smart 
Sam for mixed surface touring.  On this forum, much has been written about 
the Thunder Burts & they seem well liked.  I have Sams on a bike & they're 
surprisingly quiet for such an aggressive looking tire.  The roll well 
enough on pavement (not Marathon Supreme well) and get good grip in the 
dirt.  

dougP

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> If interested, I have a lightly used set of marathons in 700x50 and brand 
> new Smart Sam 700x45s I want to get rid of that I'll sell at a fair price.

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell ThumbShifters?

[dougP]

Brian:

I can't put my finger on it at the moment but I recall Grant posting 
something a while back that the project was not coming together.  I don't 
think he mentioned why not but it sounded discouraging.  I was really 
looking forward to them.  

dougP

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> I was wonbdering if anyone had heard anymore about when the new thumb 
> shifters would be available?
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[RBW] Re: REMINDER: Coffee Outside Bay Area

[Kellie]

It sure was beautiful today. See you soon Dan.

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>
> 
> This Sat. March 4, rain or shine, at the west end of Marina Park near 
> Salute Restaurant, Marina Bay, CA, 7AM. Bring your brewing set-up/thermos 
> and meet some like-minded cyclists. Only 4.5 miles from El Cerrito Bart 
> Station, and most the ride's on the SF Bay Trail to the meeting area.
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[RBW] Rivendell ThumbShifters?

[Brian Campbell]

I was wonbdering if anyone had heard anymore about when the new thumb 
shifters would be available?

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[RBW] Re: REMINDER: Coffee Outside Bay Area

[Kellie]

A few of us today with clear skies and lots of sun. Dan won the *Rivendell* 
Saddlesack Flat bag.


A
 
few of us today with clear skies and lots of sun. Dan won the Rivendell 
Saddleback Flat bag.

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> *Coffee Outside* is coming this Sat., 7AM. There's an incredible prize 
> donated from *Rivendell *for one lucky cyclist. Bring your brewing 
> setup/thermos or some "eats" for trade and I'll make you a cup. Rain or 
> shine (there's an overhand if it's raining about 50 yds. from where we 
> usually meet). Right now the forecast looks good. Hope to see you there! 
> More info. @cowboygrrl
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 3:26:20 PM UTC-8, Kellie wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>> This Sat. March 4, rain or shine, at the west end of Marina Park near 
>> Salute Restaurant, Marina Bay, CA, 7AM. Bring your brewing set-up/thermos 
>> and meet some like-minded cyclists. Only 4.5 miles from El Cerrito Bart 
>> Station, and most the ride's on the SF Bay Trail to the meeting area.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Advice on Choosing a New Rivendell Appaloosa, Hillborne or Clem

[WETH]

Jonathan,
As far as a 650b conversion to the Romulus, just new brakes, wheels and tires.  
The only other thing is to watch pedal strike when cornering.  I switched from 
170mm crank arms to 165mm and have no issues.
In terms of a new bike, if I were in the market, I would buy the Joe!
Good luck,
Erl

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[RBW] Tigged welds on Rosco Road

[Kai Vierstra]

In this case, smooth welds are no better than scalloped. In fact smooth welds 
are often the result of a lot of grinding/filing which leaves you wondering how 
skilled the finisher was at not taking too much weld away or damaging the 
tubes. Rivendell's/Taiwan"s welders are excellent, enjoy them for the good 
welds they are.
-Kai
Brooklyn NY 

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[RBW] Re: Sam

[Jonathan Donehower]

Would love to hear your experience. Enjoy!

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Choosing a New Rivendell Appaloosa, Hillborne or Clem

[Jonathan Donehower]

Joe-  I agree at least for my situation. I don't really want to put money into 
the change as well  as would rather apply it to building up a Joe. It also 
seems risk free because if I don't like the Joe I could always sell it. 

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[RBW] FS: A719 Deore LX Wheels set w/2.1 Thunderburts

[Brian Campbell]

These wheels (from my short Hunq ownership) are essentially new. Have about 
15 miles on them as do the tires/tubes. Skewers in cluded. 135 rear 
spacing. $325 shipped in the lower 48 or local pick up in the Philadelphia 
area.

Links to more picks:
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[RBW] Re: 700 x 45-50 options

[Conway Bennett]

If interested, I have a lightly used set of marathons in 700x50 and brand new 
Smart Sam 700x45s I want to get rid of that I'll sell at a fair price.

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[RBW] Tigged welds on Rosco Road

[iamkeith]

Assuming they'll look like my first-run clem, they are not smooth at all.  
There's a thickish bead, with visible and very evenly-spaced, overlapped 
"pools."  The wet paint is thicker than powdercoat, so the texture is not 
"rough," though -  it's just "relief."  

Is that what you're wondering?  They look very nice and strong, to me.  I still 
have a few tig welded, steel, boutique bikes from the '90s, with almost no 
visible bead.  Ibis, potts, etc.  They look neat, but i never understood how 
the joints stayed together.

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[RBW] Re: 700 x 45-50 options

[Trenker]

"How about the Schwalbe Thunderbert  700 x 2.1. A friend is running those 
on his Atlantis and felt a big difference over the 700 x 50 Marathon 
Mondials that he replaced. Steve"

These sound good. I like Schwalbe tires, I've never had one that wasn't 
well-made. How are they for riding a whole day on 70 % pavement/ 30 % 
gravel? I used to have legs like tree trunks but now I want something that 
makes life a bit easier. 

David



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[RBW] Re: 700 x 45-50 options

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I look forward to hearing your impressions.



On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 11:02:04 AM UTC-5, Stuart Lovinggood wrote:
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> Already ordered some Torches for my new Appaloosa. Can report back next 
> week with some photos and impressions. 

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[RBW] Re: 700 x 45-50 options

[Scott Blouke]

I just picked up a set of Schwalbe almotions in 50-584 but they make a 
50-622 and a 55-622 and this one might be exactly the size you are looking 
for if they are a bit undersized.
They are currently only measuring out to 43mm wide on synergies but they 
are taller then the 42-584 Marathons they replaced.
I got them to mount tubeless on a set of cliffhangers so we will see once 
all those parts come in.
They seem tough but still roll well.  

On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 6:58:32 AM UTC-7, Trenker wrote:
>
> What is available in tires 700 x 45-50 for commuting and touring? For an 
> Atlantis on synergy rims. I have used Marathon Supremes in 700 x 40. They 
> are really nice tires and I have toured with them. Most of the paved and 
> unpaved roads in my area are fine with these, but some newly laid gravel 
> can need a wider tire. 
>
>
> I have Compass 700x44 and they are very light tires. For touring they’d be 
> all right because even if I get a flat every couple of days it doesn’t 
> matter, since I stop to rest anyway. But they are hardly bigger than the 
> Compass 700x38, they measure about 40-42 mm on my rims. For combined 
> touring and commuting I want something a bit sturdier than the Compass and 
> a bit lighter construction than the Marathon Supreme, at least 45 mm wide.  
> I want to make good use of the clearance on the Atlantis.
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] 700 x 45-50 options

[Steven Sweedler]

How about the Schwalbe Thunderbert  700 x 2.1. A friend is running those on
his Atlantis and felt a big difference over the 700 x 50 Marathon Mondials
that he replaced. Steve
On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 9:58 AM Trenker  wrote:

>
>
>
>
> What is available in tires 700 x 45-50 for commuting and
>
> touring? For an Atlantis on synergy rims. I have used Marathon Supremes in
> 700
>
> x 40. They are really nice tires and I have toured with them. Most of the
> paved
>
> and unpaved roads in my area are fine with these, but some newly laid
> gravel
>
> can need a wider tire.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have Compass 700x44 and they are very light tires. For
>
> touring they’d be all right because even if I get a flat every couple of
> days
>
> it doesn’t matter, since I stop to rest anyway. But they are hardly bigger
> than
>
> the Compass 700x38, they measure about 40-42 mm on my rims. For combined
>
> touring and commuting I want something a bit sturdier than the Compass and
> a
>
> bit lighter construction than the Marathon Supreme, at least 45 mm wide.  I
> want to make good use of the clearance on
>
> the Atlantis.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Tigged welds on Rosco Road

[twin]

I'm just curious if you have seen the welds are they smooth? 
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[RBW] Re: 700 x 45-50 options

[Stuart Lovinggood]

Already ordered some Torches for my new Appaloosa. Can report back next week 
with some photos and impressions. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bags

[Roberta]

Mark, 

What is a tombstone? Is it that small "uplift" at the end of the rack, so 
that your items don't shift into your seatpost?

Roberta

On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 11:02:57 PM UTC-4, Dave Johnston wrote:

> ... I 
> would recommend a rear rack without a "tombstone" for compatibility 
> with a Sackville. ...
> -Dave 
>
> On 3/20/17, Broccoli Cog  wrote: 
> > Great advice as always. Thank you all. After giving this some more 
> thought 
> > today I asked myself "why not install a rear rack?" I came to the 
> > conclusion that a Mark's rack installed on the rear would be perfect in 
> > conjunction with the medium Sackville. Now I just need to wait for RIv 
> to 
> > have them back in stock. 
> > 
> > On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 8:47:32 AM UTC-4, Broccoli Cog wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Hi everyone, I was wondering if I could get some thoughts on a new 
> saddle 
> >> 
> >> bag for my Sam. My current setup is I have a Mark's rack on the front 
> >> combined with a Wald 137 Basket and a Swift Industries Sugar Loaf bag. 
> My 
> >> 
> >> saddlebag is a Sackville X-small. This is a great set up for all around 
> >> riding. I am considering adding a saddle bag that will allow me to 
> carry 
> >> some extra cargo. I don't have a rear rack and don't have any intention 
> of 
> >> 
> >> adding one. That limits me to the Small or the Medium Sackville. I am 
> >> trying to decide between these two sizes and I am not sure what to do. 
> My 
> >> 
> >> goal is to have a bag big enough for commuting and possibly some S24O 
> >> trips. I don't currently have the gear for the overnight camping and 
> >> wonder 
> >> really how much I'll get to do that. I was initially leaning towards 
> the 
> >> small but thought why not get the medium. I might be happy to have the 
> >> extra space when I need it. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! 
> >> 
> >> Tim 
> >> 
> >> 
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[RBW] WTB: Shimano XT M737 - M770 era rear hub 32H - NOS or close to it

[Kieran J]

Hi all,

Looking for an older XT for a wheel build. Must be:

   - New or Minty Fresh
   - Within range of XT 737 Parallax - M770 8-10spd HG
   - Silver
   - 32H / 135mm OLD

Contact me off-list if you have one.

Thanks!

Kieran

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[RBW] Re: 700 x 45-50 options

[Trenker]

Thanks, both of those look interesting.

 I could use a Marathon Supreme 50 as well. It would be fine, however 
ideally I prefer some tread, I have slid out and crashed on the slick 
Marathon Supreme on wet pavement; I learned not to exceed those limits but 
it's nice to have a margin of safety. 

Incidentally I have to wonder about some kind of conflicted feelings of the 
Maxxis guy who comes up with names for their tires. “Torch” conveys to me 
something combustible that burns up fast. Another one of my favourite 
strange Maxxis names is “Detonator:” not sure that is the image I want to 
be rolling along on.   :-)






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[RBW] Re: Sam

[RichS]

Congratulations! The Sam is a wonderful bike. My favorite and gets the most 
miles of the three Rivs I own.

Regards,
Richard 

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> should be a great combination. Thanks for all the helpful insight! 
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[RBW] Re: 700 x 45-50 options

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

You might consider the Maxxis Torch 29 tire.  It's relatively new in the 
29'er/700c size so not a lot of reviews out there but it's been used in the 
BMX world for a while.  It's on my short list for my next set of tires.  

Maxxis Torch 29 




On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 8:58:32 AM UTC-5, Trenker wrote:
>
> What is available in tires 700 x 45-50 for commuting and touring? For an 
> Atlantis on synergy rims. I have used Marathon Supremes in 700 x 40. They 
> are really nice tires and I have toured with them. Most of the paved and 
> unpaved roads in my area are fine with these, but some newly laid gravel 
> can need a wider tire. 
>
>
> I have Compass 700x44 and they are very light tires. For touring they’d be 
> all right because even if I get a flat every couple of days it doesn’t 
> matter, since I stop to rest anyway. But they are hardly bigger than the 
> Compass 700x38, they measure about 40-42 mm on my rims. For combined 
> touring and commuting I want something a bit sturdier than the Compass and 
> a bit lighter construction than the Marathon Supreme, at least 45 mm wide.  
> I want to make good use of the clearance on the Atlantis.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Errandonee 2017

[RichS]

Deacon and his Hunqapillar. King of the Errandonees. I salute you sir!

All the best,
Richard

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>
> With abandon, 
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Re: [RBW] Pano's built up Rivendell custom on Rivendell flicker

[Patrick Moore]

Very pretty. I'm late to the thread, but I take it that this one is a
custom? It's certainly all bagged out!

I am tempted to try the Albastaches. My concern, as yours was, is riding
into the wind. Can you get both a position low enough to duck the wind and
generate power, while at the same time one high enough to sit up and beg,
so to speak, while allowing control? This is one of the 2 big virtues of
the drop bar, low and high positions (the other being so many hand
positions). It does l*ook* more comfortable than the M bar, though "look"
in this sentence carries exactly no weight.

But congratulations; again, very nice.



On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 10:50 PM, panog  wrote:

> Thanks for the kind words guys!
>
> The bike came out looking and feeling fantastic! I've got a little over
> 500 miles on it so far and it feels like the cockpit is dialed in. The fit
> is perfect! Cant add pics through my iPad so added a few more at the flickr
> site:
> Side view https://flic.kr/p/TbtsBm
> As it is now  https://flic.kr/p/TbtsDf  And https://flic.kr/p/T3ET9D
> dressed for commuting duty.
>
> The Albastache and the bar-ends worked out great. The bars, as set, are
> very comfortable and the upright position is great for commuting as
> visibility is greatly increased. My concern was how they would behave out
> on the open road and head-on winds but so far so good. Longest ride till
> now about 45 miles and head-on winds in the high teens - low twenties
> needed steering holding from the brake  levers to reduce my frontal area
> somewhat. Not the same as with drops but quite doable. Power developed
> holding from around the bar-ends is not as much as when less upright but
> this is to be expected so no surprises there. Overall and for 80%+ of what
> the intended use of the bike is, the Albastache looks to be the perfect bar
> for it.
>
> It took me the better part of a day to dial in the fenders and get a
> uniform line around the tire without any undue stress. I followed most of
> Peter Weigle's tips setting them up. Things like no leather washers at the
> fender-stay interphase and decoupling only at the brake bridge and
> dropouts. The braze-on under the fork worked out great and the fender
> dimple there was much easier to get right. The VO's now come with aluminum
> stick-on reinforcement for underneath the fender at the crown and brake
> bridge which I included. If I had seen Anton's latest development in time
> maybe I would have done that instead as it looks sharp but right now I'm
> not taking them apart.
> The bended upper front stay is "borrowed" out of Peter's photo stream;
> more for the look than out of necessity although it does really secure the
> front end of the fender from shaking when on extended rough pavement.
>
> Brakes are Origin 8 Classique Sports. On the fence on these so far as the
> lever feels kinda of flimsy. Wanted to hide the cables as much as possible
> and the flaring up of some of the Evo variety (i.e. TRP) sticks up too much
> passed the top of the bars. I thought of flipping the TRP but then the
> cable comes out on the top which I did not like either. Still on the
> look-out on these.
>
> I had a Tubus Airy Ti laying around that I put on the back and then added
> a pair of Multisacks for lightweight, stay-on the bike, panniers. Front
> rack I will not put on but I did get the Hub Area Rack and bags to use in
> trips where additional carrying capacity is needed.
>
> Mounting the front light was a close call. The "shortie" bracket was too
> short and the back of the light housing could not clear the straddle bridge
> so its longer version was used. It pushed the light out from rubbing
> against the straddle bridge but, I think, it pushed it a bit more than I
> would have liked. I may attempt to reform the bracket later on although the
> bolt head clearance from the Paul's is next to nothing.
>
> The bar is double wrapped with the cork look-a-like tape but as soon as my
> lugged quill stem comes in I have a nice leather Berthoud waiting for it.
>
> Joe Bell's paint job is simply amazing. I have been looking for
> imperfections, runouts or whatever but there aren't any. The other day I
> noticed he had put a clear protectant strip on the left seat stay right
> where the head of the Zefal would have scraped against it. It doesn't as
> the pump spring keeps it a good 5mm away but if it ever did, the paint wont
> be scratched. This attention to detail I have not seen before and have had
> a few customs in my life.
>
> All in all, its been a wonderfull experience and the end result justified
> the weight.
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[RBW] Re: Sam

[Mattt]

Great choice.  I had a Sam sold it and brought another.  Great all around bike.

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Re: [RBW] 700 x 45-50 options

[Reed Kennedy]

I quite like the Schwalbe Big One:
http://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/mtb-reviews/schwalbe-big-one-2016

Slightly wider than you asked for at 57mm (measured, from the link) but
still nice and light and supple.

Fits my Hunq. I think it'll work on an Atlantis? I use the Compass 38mm for
paved touring and these for more interesting stuff.


Reed
On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 6:58 AM Trenker  wrote:

> What is available in tires 700 x 45-50 for commuting and touring? For an
> Atlantis on synergy rims. I have used Marathon Supremes in 700 x 40. They
> are really nice tires and I have toured with them. Most of the paved and
> unpaved roads in my area are fine with these, but some newly laid gravel
> can need a wider tire.
>
>
> I have Compass 700x44 and they are very light tires. For touring they’d be
> all right because even if I get a flat every couple of days it doesn’t
> matter, since I stop to rest anyway. But they are hardly bigger than the
> Compass 700x38, they measure about 40-42 mm on my rims. For combined
> touring and commuting I want something a bit sturdier than the Compass and
> a bit lighter construction than the Marathon Supreme, at least 45 mm wide.
> I want to make good use of the clearance on the Atlantis.
>
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[RBW] 700 x 45-50 options

[Trenker]

 

What is available in tires 700 x 45-50 for commuting and touring? For an 
Atlantis on synergy rims. I have used Marathon Supremes in 700 x 40. They 
are really nice tires and I have toured with them. Most of the paved and 
unpaved roads in my area are fine with these, but some newly laid gravel 
can need a wider tire. 


I have Compass 700x44 and they are very light tires. For touring they’d be 
all right because even if I get a flat every couple of days it doesn’t 
matter, since I stop to rest anyway. But they are hardly bigger than the 
Compass 700x38, they measure about 40-42 mm on my rims. For combined 
touring and commuting I want something a bit sturdier than the Compass and 
a bit lighter construction than the Marathon Supreme, at least 45 mm wide.  I 
want to make good use of the clearance on the Atlantis.


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[RBW] Re: WTT/WTB 61cm Homer Hilsen

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

 I was thinking $900 shipped conus for the frameset/bb/hs and $1700 for a bare 
bones complete shipped.  That's with a dyno (Shimano) front wheel and matching 
rear rim (Alex Adventurer) laced to a high flange VO hub in the rearand 
Paul brakes (complete bike minus saddle/pedals).

Here's another pic pre dyno treatment:

https://instagram.com/p/6Ij9lyTSZi/

I would place it around a 7/8, there's a few scratches here and there but in 
pretty good shape. I have a lot of bikes so it doesn't see as much action as 
the typical enthusiast.

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[RBW] Re: Recognizing Genius: R14 in back AND front

[Hugh Smitham]

Good point Garth. Genius!

~h

On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 3:43:43 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
>
> How quickly has the Nitto 2 strut front rack they once sold been forgotten 
> ! It is a basically Marks rack made full size with 2 struts on each side 
> plus the tang. The loop is not quite as tall .  
> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/08/b4/a7/08b4a7e642a48f6d3518a03fd170b5b8.jpg
> .
>
> I don't know why they kept the r14 and ditched the 2 srut one since it too 
> can be used front or rear but has a loop and is more stable and versatile. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Errandonee 2017

[Takashi]

Great story and pictures as always, Patrick!
It's good to know that people come out of office for you so that you don't 
have to go inside.

Takashi


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>
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>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
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[RBW] Recognizing Genius: R14 in back AND front

[Garth]

How quickly has the Nitto 2 strut front rack they once sold been forgotten ! It 
is a basically Marks rack made full size with 2 struts on each side plus the 
tang. The loop is not quite as tall .  
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/08/b4/a7/08b4a7e642a48f6d3518a03fd170b5b8.jpg.

I don't know why they kept the r14 and ditched the 2 srut one since it too can 
be used front or rear but has a loop and is more stable and versatile. 

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[RBW] Re: Pick your paint Hunq

[Garth]

I am a bit confsued by what GP said as I thought the Hunq frame was always pick 
a color ? At least I had read this in the past about it, and since they are 
made to order I don't see how this isn't the case regardless. Any stock 
Waterford color is what I am referring to, not the premium ones. 

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[RBW] Re: WTT/WTB 61cm Homer Hilsen

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

Bump.

Still on the lookout for a 61 HomerI've got the itch to insert 
something closer to a road set up in my repertoire...

If you're on the hunt for a 58cm 2TT Sam frame or complete (no longer 2TT 
in 58),  perhaps you can provide some seed money on a new Homer order...

PM me an offer
 

On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 9:23:20 PM UTC-5, Alex Wirth- Owner, 
Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
> Curious if anyone has a 61cm Homer that they might want to trade for a 
> 58cm double top tube Sam?  They are the same effective top tube...
>
> It obviously wouldn't be an even trade but we could figure out details etc 
> later
>
> Might make sense for someone that wants a stiffer all-rounder/camping bike 
> and I'm lusting for a Homer.
>
> Also might be interested in buying outright?
>
> Send me a PM if interested.
>
> Here's my Sam:
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>

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