[RBW] FS: 57cm Red Rodeo Complete bike $2400

[Joe Bernard]

Hey Dan, what is the TT measurement? Gorgeous bike!

Joe Bernard
Novato CA. 

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[RBW] Re: RIV Catalog Arrived

[Christopher Murray]

Waiting in North Dakota.

Chris

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[RBW] Re: RIV Catalog Arrived

[Richard Rios]

I'm SoCal eagerly awaiting mine as well...

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[RBW] Re: RIV Catalog Arrived

[dougP]

There was something about them being bulk mailed from SoCal.  Here I sit in 
OC, also still waiting.  Maybe the closer you are to the point of 
distribution the slower the delivery?  

dougP

On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 7:25:36 PM UTC-7, Clayton.sf wrote:
>
> Still waiting in SF...
>
> Clayton Scott
> SF, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

[Joe Bernard]

31.8. Lots more options now and in the future for drops, plus it's the same 
size for flatish bars. Embrace the future, man!

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[RBW] Re: RIV Catalog Arrived

[Clayton.sf]

Still waiting in SF...

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

[Clayton.sf]

The real (for me) reason for 31.8 is less bar slip. The more sweep the bar has 
and the rougher the riding is the greater the benefit of 31.8. Albatross will 
slip for me in certain situation, my 31.8 Jones stay put no matter what. 

Clayton Scott,
SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

[Bob K.]

Bill’s idea of going 31.8 and then shimming down if needed is a great one. Do 
that. “The time to hesitate is through.”

Bob K. in Baltimore

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[RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

[Drw]

I'm sold on the idea of a super short stem with drops. Moving mine from a 
longish stem to a dirt drop stem has been great. Anyway, making this 
decision is almost crippling me to the point of not buying it. 

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[RBW] Re: RIV Catalog Arrived

[Tim Bantham]

Received mine  today. Loved the illustrations, the film photos and the writing. 
I love my Riv bikes and embracing the Rivendell approach was a welcome change 
to my riding. So happy to do business with these folks!

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[RBW] Re: Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

[Bill Lindsay]

It would be great to see you out there next racing season, J-Smooth.  Maybe 
we can get Manny to show up as well representing Albany High.  

The final race of the year: California State Championships, is this weekend 
in Petaluma.  Our most likely podium contenders from ECHS are Matt Garrison 
(Varsity Boys) and Madeleine Hill (JV Girls).  

Coach Bill
ECHS Gauchos

On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 4:43:25 PM UTC-7, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>
> Bill- 
> That’s a great idea. I will look into it for sure! 
>
> Sadly she’s only 4.5 months - with great head control - so I’ve got at 
> least another 4.5 months to go. I’m off all next school year tho with 
> nearest return to work date being sept 2019. Plenty of time to bike with 
> her! 
>
> -J

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[RBW] Re: Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

[Justin, Oakland]

Bill-
That’s a great idea. I will look into it for sure!

Sadly she’s only 4.5 months - with great head control - so I’ve got at least 
another 4.5 months to go. I’m off all next school year tho with nearest return 
to work date being sept 2019. Plenty of time to bike with her!

-J

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[RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

I don't believe 25.4/26.0mm handlebars will become obsolete, especially if 
Nitto continues to survive and thrive. Actually, even if everyone 
discontinued 25.4/26.0mm handlebars today, there is probably enough stock 
flowing through the system to supply us retro-grouches for decades simply 
because of the low niche demand. :)  Personally, I don't prefer the 
aesthetics of the fat 31.8mm center section on steel-framed bikes. They 
look out of place with the ~27.2mm seatposts and ~28.6mm main tubes.


On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 2:30:41 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
>
> I'm considering getting one of the analog stems for my atlantis. they are 
> pretty pricey, so i'm hemming and hawing about the size because i dont want 
> to have to buy another stem anytime soon. all the bars ive ever used have 
> been 25.4 or 26. Are there reasons for going 31.8? will 26.0 bars be 
> obsolete soon? 
>

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[RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

[Neil Doran]

No idea if 26.0 is going away, but depending on what you want, 31.8 may 
have way better options. I wanted Salsa bars, so had to go with new 31.8 
stem. I don't notice a functional difference, other than the salsa setup 
feels flexier than the noodle that preceded it.

You could always buy the 31.8 and shim as needed for max flexibility.

That 0/30 degree extension is interesting...I suppose it will basically 
match the reach of your atlantis with trad stem and swept bars?

Velo Orange also has a quill stem with removable faceplate, that is what I 
went with at about 80 clams. I like it.

On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 2:30:41 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
>
> I'm considering getting one of the analog stems for my atlantis. they are 
> pretty pricey, so i'm hemming and hawing about the size because i dont want 
> to have to buy another stem anytime soon. all the bars ive ever used have 
> been 25.4 or 26. Are there reasons for going 31.8? will 26.0 bars be 
> obsolete soon? 
>

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[RBW] Re: 26.0 vs 31.8

[Bill Lindsay]

Are there reasons for going 31.8?

yes:

-because you feel like it
-because you think you are going to bend a 26.0 bar
-because the bars you want to try only come in 31.8

will 26.0 bars be obsolete soon? 

no

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 2:30:41 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
>
> I'm considering getting one of the analog stems for my atlantis. they are 
> pretty pricey, so i'm hemming and hawing about the size because i dont want 
> to have to buy another stem anytime soon. all the bars ive ever used have 
> been 25.4 or 26. Are there reasons for going 31.8? will 26.0 bars be 
> obsolete soon? 
>

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[RBW] Re: Betty's an eBike Now

[Cecily Walker]

Hey G.E.! *waves*

On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 6:39:26 AM UTC-7, G.E. wrote:
>
> This is so awesome, Cecily!!! I'm so glad that you've been able to find a 
> way to keep riding your Riv! 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Betty's an eBike Now

[Cecily Walker]

I'm happy to report that riding my Riv eBike is super fun, and I get a 
fiendish glee when I pass people going uphill. :)


On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 6:44:53 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote:
>
> Some of y'all might remember me. *waves hello*
>
> Unfortunately, as my rheumatoid arthritis and vascular conditions 
> progressed, I had to stop riding my bike. I've missed my Rizzo so much, and 
> was thinking about selling her. I did add a Vespa to my stable, but it just 
> never gave me the same feeling I got from riding my bike. 
>
> A while back (a couple of years?) I asked whether anyone in this group had 
> any experience with converting a Betty Foy or any other Rivendell bike to 
> an eBike. There weren't many responses, and for a long time, I gave up hope 
> that I'd be able to ride ever again... until about two weeks ago. 
>
> I went into my local eBike shop, and asked whether it was possible to 
> convert my beloved Rizzo to an eBike, and they said that while it would be 
> a challenge, it was doable. I had to get a new wheel built, and I had to 
> sign a waiver about braking because the Betty Foy doesn't come with disc 
> brakes.
>
> Today I am happy to report that a reputable eBike dealer can in fact 
> convert a Riv bike to an eBike, and I'm back riding again. Hooray!
>
> I just needed to share my joy with people who would get it. Cheers, 
> everyone!
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Shifter Mounts (BE, Top-Mount)

[Minh]

Upon closer inspection these Shimano BE pods are slightly different from 
the Riv ones, these have an extra bump on them (see here 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FW3YnEnRW2oVndP83).  So easy option is to get the 
Shimano washers and use shimano shifters.

if you want to use non-shimano shifters and the square washers, you'll need 
to spend some time filing off the bump.

On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 5:15:49 PM UTC-4, Minh wrote:
>
> Thanks to everyone that's helped clear out my parts box, just a few things 
> left. prices do not include shipping, PM me with your zip to get final 
> totals.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/DYtj8RO8sphSpwV22
>
>
> IRD Top Shifter Mounts Only: $37
>
> Shimano BarEnd Pods Only w/ washers: $22
>
> Shimano BarEnd Pods No washers: $18
>
>
>
>
> Shimano Barend Pods Only w/washers: 
>
> The washers have tabs, which may or may not work with your shifters, worst 
> case  you can grind off the tabs
>
>
> Shimano Barend Pods No washers: 
>
> Either order some regular square washers from Riv to use non-shimano 
> shifters OR
>
> Order some Shimano washers to run shimano shifters (either from Riv, or i 
> can give you the Shimano part-number to order from your LBS)
>
>
>
> IRD Top Shifter Mounts Only: 
>
> Used, sized for roadbars (25.4) so you will need shims to mount these to 
> 22.2 bars (not included)
>
>  as-is these would work with non Shimano shifters (Shimano shifters need a 
> special washer, which Riv sell).  I mounted a set of Suntour DT shifters, 
> right side was fine but left side was a little loose--would need an 
> additional washer/shim.  You may not have that problem but FYI.  
>

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[RBW] Re: WTTry: MKS Toe clips and leather straps

[Deacon Patrick]

Lester, thank you. Private reply sent.

Clayton, I always love seeing your handiwork. Excellent. Several questions: is 
another way to describe “binding,” “twisting”? Yes, I can see how the straps 
need to be stiff and open and not bind/twist for easy in/out.

My two biggest concerns with the Hold Fast straps are 1) that my foot, even in 
the touring pedals, wedges in snug to the point that pre-loosening is required 
prior to easy exit and 2) fraying for trail abrasion. A toe clip takes care of 
#1, and I think the leather straps would tuck in well and avoid most trail 
abrasion. Hoping that works!

Thanks again all!

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] 26.0 vs 31.8

[Drw]

I'm considering getting one of the analog stems for my atlantis. they are 
pretty pricey, so i'm hemming and hawing about the size because i dont want 
to have to buy another stem anytime soon. all the bars ive ever used have 
been 25.4 or 26. Are there reasons for going 31.8? will 26.0 bars be 
obsolete soon? 

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[RBW] FS: Threaded Stems (Nitto, VO)

[Minh]

Thanks to everyone that's helped clear out my parts box, just a few things 
left. prices do not include shipping, PM me with your zip to get final 
totals.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/gfIWhoNvVLhzpniq1

https://photos.app.goo.gl/DXtg9zL2FIC2u8XB2

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ri7taTaSyFW35fmo6


Velo Orange Grand Cru Quill Stem, 120mm New: $32

Nitto Technomic, 80mmx225: $22


Velo Orange Grand Cru Quill Stem: See specs at VO: 
https://velo-orange.com/collections/stems/products/grand-cru-quill-stem

120mm extension, super shiny, a few fine scratches from handling, but never 
mounted, no insertion marks.  Has a mount for a temple bell.

Nitto technomic stem:

Classic riv popular stem, 80mm extension with 225mm quill.

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[RBW] FS: Shifter Mounts (BE, Top-Mount)

[Minh]

Thanks to everyone that's helped clear out my parts box, just a few things 
left. prices do not include shipping, PM me with your zip to get final 
totals.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/DYtj8RO8sphSpwV22


IRD Top Shifter Mounts Only: $37

Shimano BarEnd Pods Only w/ washers: $22

Shimano BarEnd Pods No washers: $18




Shimano Barend Pods Only w/washers: 

The washers have tabs, which may or may not work with your shifters, worst 
case  you can grind off the tabs


Shimano Barend Pods No washers: 

Either order some regular square washers from Riv to use non-shimano 
shifters OR

Order some Shimano washers to run shimano shifters (either from Riv, or i 
can give you the Shimano part-number to order from your LBS)



IRD Top Shifter Mounts Only: 

Used, sized for roadbars (25.4) so you will need shims to mount these to 
22.2 bars (not included)

 as-is these would work with non Shimano shifters (Shimano shifters need a 
special washer, which Riv sell).  I mounted a set of Suntour DT shifters, 
right side was fine but left side was a little loose--would need an 
additional washer/shim.  You may not have that problem but FYI.  

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[RBW] 2015 60 cm Cheviot

[CoalTrain]

2015 60cm Cheviot. I purchased this new from Riv. That years run had middle 
seat stays that were closer to the cassette then usual so Riv shaved away some 
material so as not to rub, you can see their expert work in a pic below. There 
are 3 stickers that can be removed but I don’t have adhesive remover. The frame 
has about 130 miles on it and has the typical wear you’d expect from that. I 
had a rear nitto long stay rack on it at one point so the brazeons have that 
typical use appearance. Here is what you’re getting:

Kalloy post
Altus rear derailleur 
Some shimano front derailleur
Albatross bars, steel i think
Shimano brake levers
Cheap thump shifters
100 or 110 nitto stem
Tektrro brakes

$1100 for local pick up in St Louis...preferred 
More I need to ship

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[RBW] Frosty the Step- thru

[RichS]

Looks good! Nice mix of new and old parts. Those sculptural  Laprade seatposts 
are beauties. Have a 1985 model on my Sam.

Best,
Richard

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[RBW] Re: RIV Catalog Arrived

[RichS]

Received my copy yesterday. Delightful design and clearly focused on the MIT 
bikes but still conveying the essence of Rivendell.

Nice work Grant! Props to everyone involved from concept to finished piece. 
Hope it generates interest and of course sales.

Many thanks!
Richard

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[RBW] Re: Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

[Jonathan D.]

I would add for Justin, get a child bike seat or a trailer. Start biking with 
your kid to all their activities, friend visits or to new parks. It is a fun 
way to explore and spend time together. 

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[RBW] Re: RIV Catalog Arrived

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 12:05:09 PM UTC-7, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>
> Just got the mail and there it was - the promised Riv catalog!  I'm going 
> to wait until after work to savor it with a beer in hand on the back 
> patio.  Just from the cover, it looks to be of high quality.  Much as you 
> would expect.
> Chris
>

Got mine!

At first glance, it was smaller than expected. After the rather large 
Rivendell Readers and previous catalog, I did not even realize I got a 
catalog until I opened the envelope. This one is smaller than even the 
classic Bridgestone catalogs. Size is not correlated to quality, and I know 
Grant & co probably are not looking for validation, but this catalog is 
quite fun to browse and inspect. My only complaint is that it's too short – 
I would have loved to remain in the realm of the elves for just a few more 
pages.

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[RBW] Re: Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

[Bill Lindsay]

Justin asked:  "How do I do a commute like this to my current job as a stay 
at home dad? "

I doubt he meant it sincerely, but every smart aleck joke question has a 
kernel of truth or sincerity in it.  So I'll answer as if Justin was 
sincerely asking.

I think you should volunteer for Oakland Composite Mountain Bike Racing.  
They have an incredible group of kids riding for them, and they do really 
great work, particularly servicing minority riders, girls, and economically 
challenged high schoolers in Oakland.  It's one of the best ways I know of 
to get Oakland teens outdoors and enjoying the spectacular public spaces 
available in the hills above Oakland.  Ride with them once or twice a week, 
and they will beat your ass into shape faster than you can say "un-Racer".  
Working withe El Cerrito High School has been a true fountain-of-youth 
experience for me both physically and emotionally.  Short, intense, 
sometimes unpleasantly difficult mountain bike rides are one of the more 
efficient ways to get a TON of fitness out of VERY limited exercise time.  
Committing to a team like that is a way to force discipline on yourself 
that normally might take joining a gym, or some other lame self-imposed and 
costly arrangement.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 7:07:29 AM UTC-7, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>
> I spend a considerable amount of time hiking these trails and ride them in 
> small parts as well. This is, as most everything you do is, most 
> impressive. Almost as impressive as Deacon P turning every thread into one 
> about nutrition. ;)
>
> How do I do a commute like this to my current job as a stay at home dad? 
>
> -J
>
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[RBW] Re: RIV Catalog Arrived

[Philip Williamson]

Like the Rivendell Reader Races of old! 

I got mine yesterday. Read most of it, and looked at all the pictures.
I enjoy the engaging illustrations. Bike decals in the same style would be 
nice. 

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA


On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 12:05:09 PM UTC-7, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>
> Just got the mail and there it was - the promised Riv catalog!  I'm going 
> to wait until after work to savor it with a beer in hand on the back 
> patio.  Just from the cover, it looks to be of high quality.  Much as you 
> would expect.
> Chris
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Re: [RBW] RIV Catalog Arrived

[Grant @ Rivendell]

Ha! So funny. I dig that flexibility.

Other catalog topic, the models: The last paragraph on p. 4 sort of 
addresses the who-where of making bikes, but is intentionally vague, since 
the American Homers, Atlantises, Hunqapillars, and Rodeos might have 
changing futures. We're just working out some things, and in the meantime 
it didn't make sense to say anything declaratively or waste page space 
being so iffy. 

On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 5:22:52 PM UTC-7, Eric Daume wrote:
>
> Oddly, my catalog came the same day I got a generic Chinese carbon fork 
> for my mountain bike.
>
> Clearly, I'm a bit conflicted.
>
> Eric
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Chris Birkenmaier  > wrote:
>
>> Just got the mail and there it was - the promised Riv catalog!  I'm going 
>> to wait until after work to savor it with a beer in hand on the back 
>> patio.  Just from the cover, it looks to be of high quality.  Much as you 
>> would expect.
>> Chris
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[RBW] Re: WTTry: MKS Toe clips and leather straps

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

My Campy Euclids and Deore XT pedals with homemade laminated straps and 
homemade buckle pads.  Both are important. I found that laminating or 
buying a laminated strap makes an important safety feature. The leather 
moulds to your foot, and the stiff lamination holds the opening open. The 
thick buckle pad kicks the strap away from the side of your shoe slightly, 
to help prevent binding. I highly recommend not using a one strap opening 
toeclip. The strap binds on your foot. Use a mountain clip with two strap 
'prongs'. It keeps the opening open, and provides much safer release as the 
strap is less likely to bind on your foot. I don't use toe clips anymore, 
but in twenty years of use, I rarely had my foot stuck in the pedal. I used 
clipless for a couple of years and went back to toe clips because I loved 
the art of using toe clips. Ned Overend blew my mind at a race I was at 
back in the day. He flicked the pedal with his toe hard, and while spinning 
fast, slipped his foot in. It is an art, and he is the master.  I practiced 
and practiced, but could never hit the opening like he could. I miss using 
them...sometimes. It is more connecting to the earth than clipless. 
It is like slipping your foot into stirrups, rather than hi tech ski 
bindings. They are Rivendellian. 

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Re: [RBW] FS: (still) 46cm Joe Appaloosa Butternut

[Patrick Shea]

Hey Chris:

I just received two pair of MUSA shorts from you and they are better than
great! I saw a Riv post about a lack of XL shorts, panicked, and ordered
some (L, not XL, but I was panicking). I wore them last week on my new job
with Ford Go Bikes in SF and they are every bit as 99.9% perfect as they
could be. Pretty rare to have a product exceed my high expectations these
days.

Thank-you Chris at A1 and Riv designer peoples,
Patrick

On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Christopher Wiggins 
wrote:

> Still trying to get this bike to a good home.  Just knocked another 100
> bucks off the price.  Thanks for the interest.
>
> Chris
> A1 Cyclery
> Indianapolis IN
>
> https://a1cyclery.com/product/rivendell-joe-appaloosa-46cm/
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[RBW] Re: RIV Catalog Arrived

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That makes sense.   Thanks!



On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 9:15:27 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> There are no Waterford bikes listed, custom or semi-production. As I've 
> been alluding to for a while, I think RBW is focusing on the Taiwan frames 
> they can actually keep in stock and sell at a price people will pay. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Quickbeam - Orange - Complete

[jandrews]

* 2nd BUMP *

$1150 *INCLUDING* shipping lower 48 - bike flights , insured.



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Re: [RBW] Saddle Sack Med and Leg Strike

[Andrew Patteson]

I have used a cork from a wine bottle, cut down a bit and with a piece of 
thin wire run through it (and through the leather strap) to help it stay in 
place.  I don't mind it lightly brushing my legs as I pedal, but I wanted 
just a little bit more offset.

Andrew P. in SLC, UT


On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 6:51:26 PM UTC-6, Vincent Tamer wrote:
>
> Toshi, this seems to be the best (cheapest) solution and it looks like it 
> works great! I'll be trying this out.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Vincent
>
> On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 2:50:06 PM UTC-7, ttoshi wrote:
>>
>> If you want to see some pics, just search Acorn bag with standoff.  The 
>> only caveat is that you might need to extend the strap that you use to 
>> attach the bag to the seat tube.
>>
>> Toshi
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 7:11 AM, Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>>
>>> One potentially cheap solution is to mount a tube at the back of the 
>>> seat post to push the bag back an inch or two.  One iteration of the Acorn 
>>> bags used to have a leather tube to do just what I suggested above.
>>>
>>> Tosh
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Upstate New York, Swift Campout Invite

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

Hello fellow Rivees.  If you're in our neck of the woods feel free to join 
us for this year's Swift Campout weekend.

Our route and event pages can be found here:

https://www.facebook.com/events/179423629555726/

 +

https://swiftcampout.com/camper/yellowhaus/


We're a pretty relaxed crew and we're making this 
beginner/intermediate/spouse friendly with 15 miles the first day and 30 
the next.  Think more bicycle jaboree less epic endurance adventure.  
Pretty much all on-trail with plenty of snack and gram stops ;-)

Keep an eye out for a Fall Riv unmeeting as well!



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Re: [RBW] Saddle Sack Med and Leg Strike

[Tim Gavin]

I've seen folks use various tube-shaped items as the standoff: pvc pipe,
garden hose, any random strap, where Acorn uses a leather "cuff".

Since the bag-to-seatpost strap is too short with the standoff, I use an
old toe strap (from strap and clip pedals) to replace it.

On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 6:34 PM, Vincent Tamer  wrote:

> Toshi, this seems to be the best (cheapest) solution and it looks like it
> works great! I'll be trying this out.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Vincent
>
> On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 2:50:06 PM UTC-7, ttoshi wrote:
>>
>> If you want to see some pics, just search Acorn bag with standoff.  The
>> only caveat is that you might need to extend the strap that you use to
>> attach the bag to the seat tube.
>>
>> Toshi
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 7:11 AM, Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>>
>>> One potentially cheap solution is to mount a tube at the back of the
>>> seat post to push the bag back an inch or two.  One iteration of the Acorn
>>> bags used to have a leather tube to do just what I suggested above.
>>>
>>> Toshi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
 Longer straps at the saddle plus mounting the front strap to the rack
 instead of seatpost should help. Another solution if you keep the bag on
 the bike all the time is to mount the bottom to the rack with zipties,
 skipping the the saddle mounting altogether.

 The final (expensive) solution is the Nitto saddle-rail quick-release
 which will hang the bag further back from the saddle. The benefit here is
 it's very easy to pop it off the bike to run into the store.

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[RBW] Re: RIV Catalog Arrived

[Joe Bernard]

There are no Waterford bikes listed, custom or semi-production. As I've been 
alluding to for a while, I think RBW is focusing on the Taiwan frames they can 
actually keep in stock and sell at a price people will pay. 

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[RBW] Re: Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

[Justin, Oakland]

I spend a considerable amount of time hiking these trails and ride them in 
small parts as well. This is, as most everything you do is, most impressive. 
Almost as impressive as Deacon P turning every thread into one about nutrition. 
;)

How do I do a commute like this to my current job as a stay at home dad? 

-J

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[RBW] Re: FS: NOS Nitto Dirt Drop Stem $40

[Paul M]

Thank you the stem sold.

On Sunday, 13 May 2018 15:36:39 UTC-7, Paul M wrote:
>
> Hi, Purchased this stem from Rivendell back when they were selling Nitto 
> dirt drop handlebars. Never actually rode with it installed but have put 
> bars in it and placed it on various potential bike builds. Some very light 
> marring only below the min. insertion line.  10cm extension (8.5 
> effective), 26.0 clamp diameter and 13cm quill length above the minimum 
> insertion line. $40/shipped. Thanks
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[RBW] Re: RIV Catalog Arrived

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Fingers crossed that I get mine today!

Interesting that the Hunqapillar is missing, especially given that the 650B 
versions were recently introduced.  



On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>
> Just got the mail and there it was - the promised Riv catalog!  I'm going 
> to wait until after work to savor it with a beer in hand on the back 
> patio.  Just from the cover, it looks to be of high quality.  Much as you 
> would expect.
> Chris
>

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[RBW] Re: WTTry: MKS Toe clips and leather straps

[Lester Lammers]

I have a pair of new men's large Size 10 and up Forte black poly/plastic 
clips with hardware and Christophe straps that were hanging on my water 
heater for years. Send me an address and they are yours.

Have you looked at touring shoes? Not very expensive and there are some 
nice ones out there.

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 10:52:05 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

> Anyone have a beat up pair of toe clips (and mounting hardware) and 
> leather straps I could try? I’ve got big feet (12 in summer, 14 in winter 
> with boiled wool socks), but wear minimalist shoes, so not sure what that 
> means for sizing on the toe clips. I presume bigger is better, but part of 
> this test is to get a sizing reference. 
>
> Thought I’d check here before I buy a test pair new and get my first 
> purchase all wrong. Grin. 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
>
> www.CredoFamily.org 
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org

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[RBW] Frosty the Step- thru

[MartyG]

Nice build! Looks like a fun bike. 

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[RBW] Re: RIV Catalog Arrived

[George Rosselle]

I see the Hunq is still on the website, but not availalble, but not shown 
in the catalog. But then there are many things on the website not described 
in the catalog. And handlebars in the catalog not shown on the website. 
Looks like there is some updating needed. 



On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 5:27:39 AM UTC-4, Kevin Lindsey wrote:
>
> Is my edition missing a page or two, or has Riv dropped the Hunqapillar 
> from the lineup?  I don't see it listed anywhere in the new catalog.
> Kevin Lindsey
> Alexandria,  VA
> USA
>
> On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 3:05:09 PM UTC-4, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>>
>> Just got the mail and there it was - the promised Riv catalog!  I'm going 
>> to wait until after work to savor it with a beer in hand on the back 
>> patio.  Just from the cover, it looks to be of high quality.  Much as you 
>> would expect.
>> Chris
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: RIV Catalog Arrived

[Kevin Lindsey]

Is my edition missing a page or two, or has Riv dropped the Hunqapillar 
from the lineup?  I don't see it listed anywhere in the new catalog.
Kevin Lindsey
Alexandria,  VA
USA

On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 3:05:09 PM UTC-4, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>
> Just got the mail and there it was - the promised Riv catalog!  I'm going 
> to wait until after work to savor it with a beer in hand on the back 
> patio.  Just from the cover, it looks to be of high quality.  Much as you 
> would expect.
> Chris
>

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