Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

[Leah Peterson]

Oh Tom, I thought no one would ever ask! Actually, caveat: This is all in fun. 
I don’t want to be telling Grant/Rivendell what to do. Whatever they do will be 
good, clean, fun and I am so excited to finally know what it will be. I love my 
bike, I love their bikes, and I am a novice who knows NOTHING. But if I was 
going to make a Mixte Wish List, here are my respectful and non-bossy thoughts:

1. Fancy Rivendell lugs. I love them - like the ones they put on customs. They 
are traditional Rivendell and fitting for an anniversary model. The lugs are 
the nod to Rivendell’s beginnings and the evolved geometry is where Rivendell 
is now - a summary of 25 years. The the decal can read “One Bike To Rule Them 
All.” Or “My Precious” if the former is too lengthy. Or some clever Tolkien 
reference...

2. A lower top tube. The TT is not actually that low on the Betz, and I’d 
prefer it lower for my golden years. If it was swoopy like the Clementine, 
that’s good, too.

3. Take wider tires. Like the Clementine.

4. I want the brake cables strung on the underside of the tubes. I have a nasty 
mark where the cable has been mashed into my paint job by the arm of my vehicle 
bike rack. It’s an eyesore I see every darn day.

5. The thing I really, really, really want: Sparkly red paint with cream 
accents and the Rivendell head badge. You know the kind of red that stops you 
in your tracks, turns heads, convinces you you’re 16 and makes people let out a 
long, low whistle? THAT red. 

I reserve the right to add on later! Does anyone else have these on their wish 
lists?

So fun and thanks for asking, Tom! If your wife won’t give you your Valentine’s 
bike, maybe you should get an anniversary bike instead. Ha!
Leah

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> On Feb 9, 2019, at 8:06 PM, tc  wrote:
> 
> Leah,
> I think you, as much as anyone here KNOWS the Betty.  If the 25th Anniversary 
> bike will be a mixte, and given the Cheviot is alive and well, what would 
> your mixte design points be that aren't already covered by your Betty?  Or a 
> Cheviot?  Or, is your passion based on simply wanting another, different, 
> "it's Tuesday, I feel like riding X instead of Y" frame design (like many 
> here, including me!).  I think your perspective would be great.  Especially 
> given I have that dang "Sam Blue" Cheviot of my wife's, starting at me from 
> its shipping box...and I dream of sticking some Rock n' Roads or fatter tars 
> on it and zipping away :)
> 
> Tom
> 
>> On Sunday, February 3, 2019 at 12:02:47 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> There are so many diamond frames in the lineup and in RBW history that I'm 
>> pulling for Grant's mixte anniversary bike. Anniversary is celebrating 
>> history/longevity and looking forward to the future, adding some romance, 
>> and to me that screams MIXTE. That's the bike that has carried me from the 
>> kid-pulling years and hopefully through old age. I am really excited to see 
>> what creativity Grant would put into this bike.
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[RBW] FS Olive Medium Saddlesack

[Karen Yuen]

Price drop to $120.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

[tc]

Leah,
I think you, as much as anyone here KNOWS the Betty.  If the 25th 
Anniversary bike will be a mixte, and given the Cheviot is alive and well, 
what would *your *mixte design points be that aren't already covered by 
your Betty?  Or a Cheviot?  Or, is your passion based on simply wanting 
another, different, "it's Tuesday, I feel like riding X instead of Y" frame 
design (like many here, including me!).  I think your perspective would be 
great.  Especially given I have that dang "Sam Blue" Cheviot of my wife's, 
starting at me from its shipping box...and I dream of sticking some Rock n' 
Roads or fatter tars on it and zipping away :)

Tom

On Sunday, February 3, 2019 at 12:02:47 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> There are so many diamond frames in the lineup and in RBW history that I'm 
> pulling for Grant's mixte anniversary bike. Anniversary is celebrating 
> history/longevity and looking forward to the future, adding some romance, 
> and to me that screams MIXTE. That's the bike that has carried me from the 
> kid-pulling years and hopefully through old age. I am really excited to see 
> what creativity Grant would put into this bike. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Waterford RS12 52cm with TerraFerma fork 700 or 650 plus Mafac brakes

[R Shannon]

Bruce, that looks darn good to me! Thanks for the build info too. I
remember when this one was posted FS. You scored when you made the buy.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 10:10 PM Fullylugged 
wrote:

> Here it is. Used parts I had. Looks could be a bit better, but it rides
> like a dream. Nitto noodle with bar ends and Brooks bar tape. Stem
> converter and Bontrager stem. Campy Mirage FD, Campy Veloce RD. Sugino XD2
> triple (50/36/26) and Shimano BB. White Ind/Velocity Synergy 32s wheels.
> Soma 38mm New Express tires  SRAM 11-34 cassette. Selle Anatomic Titanico
> saddle. Chris King Stainless cages. Finished the build at the end of July.
> In 6 months, It's got over 1,000 miles (it's 1 of 4 bikes I ride) It is a
> lighter, quicker steering version of the Rivendell Road. Level TT, but has
> the relaxed ST and extended HT and slightly longer chain stays that
> characterize RBW road bikes.  WHen the Road comes back home in 2 weeks, It
> will be built as a compact double I think with a wide range cassette, like
> 11-36
>
>
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[RBW] WTT New Sugino XD 40x26 double w/ chainguard for another crankset

[bo richardson]

i have a sugino super custom in take-off shape
it has 170 arms
chainrings are 52/42
i dont need much for it and dont need another crank
would it be of help to you?
i can email a pictureif you are interested.

bo(at)gmail.com

best wishes

bo
bellingham

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[RBW] Re: Roadini handlebar ideas

[tc]

Thanks, Chip. I bought and mounted the Wavie on my Atlantis and love it. Still 
not sure what to do on the Roadini. I have an Albastache, and a 56 HT alum 
Albatross, and the Ahearne+Map that used to be on the Atlantis. Decisions, 
decisions!

Tom

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[RBW] Re: Waterford RS12 52cm with TerraFerma fork 700 or 650 plus Mafac brakes

[Fullylugged]

Here it is. Used parts I had. Looks could be a bit better, but it rides like a 
dream. Nitto noodle with bar ends and Brooks bar tape. Stem converter and 
Bontrager stem. Campy Mirage FD, Campy Veloce RD. Sugino XD2 triple (50/36/26) 
and Shimano BB. White Ind/Velocity Synergy 32s wheels. Soma 38mm New Express 
tires  SRAM 11-34 cassette. Selle Anatomic Titanico saddle. Chris King 
Stainless cages. Finished the build at the end of July. In 6 months, It's got 
over 1,000 miles (it's 1 of 4 bikes I ride) It is a lighter, quicker steering 
version of the Rivendell Road. Level TT, but has the relaxed ST and extended HT 
and slightly longer chain stays that characterize RBW road bikes.  WHen the 
Road comes back home in 2 weeks, It will be built as a compact double I think 
with a wide range cassette, like 11-36 


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Re: [RBW] Re: New Wavie Bar Photos

[tc]

Hey Patrick!  Man, I’d love to Rinko me Atlantis and head your way to 
experience the Pikes Peak trails with you!  (I do partially come from McGee and 
Lazenby bloodlines, though, which may or may not constitute grounds for war on 
the trails... will have to see what position I’m to take...)

Tom

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[RBW] FS: Chris King, Thomson, Maxxis, Swift Industries, Brooks, Shimano

[timclark8...@gmail.com]

Hi All,

Making room for a new project. So, it's time to move some parts along; 
hopefully something below can help fuel your next project!

Photos are available here: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/113550232@N02/albums/72157676371596577. All 
prices include priority mail flat rate shipping CONUS, so bulk discounts 
are available and encouraged. Payment: Paypal (friends and family).

Please respond by email if interested. Thank you!


Chris King ISO Front Hub - Brown 32h 100x9mm QR Disc (nice condition, low 
miles) $80.00 shipped

Chris King NoThreadset 1 1/8 Threadless Headset - Brown  excellent 
condition $65.00 shipped

Chris King NoThreadset 1 1/8 Threadless Headset - Black excellent 
condition (with extra red cap) $65.00 shipped

Pair - Maxxis DTH Tire: 26 x 2.30", Folding, 60tpi, Single Compound, 
Skinwall  $45.00 shipped

Thomson Elite Setback Seatpost 30.9 x 410mm Black $40.00 shipped

Thomson SM-E132 Elite X4 Stem 90mm 31.8 0 Degree Silver $45.00 shipped

Swift Industries Scout Motto Tool Roll $25.00 shipped

NOS Brooks England Perforated Leather Handlebar / Bar Tape Kit - Black 
$35.00 shipped

Interloc Racing Design (IRD) Elite 9-Speed Wide-Range Shimano Cassette 
11-32t  $35.00 shipped

Pair of Vintage Shimano XT M739 Brake Levers Vintage MTB Mountain Bike 
(very nice condition and great form factor) $40.00 shipped

Shimano XT RD-M772 9-Speed Long Cage Rapid Rise Rear Derailleur $30.00 
shipped

SHIMANO DEORE XT FD-M786 2 x 10s Bike Front Derailleur Clamp Mount 34.9mm 
(with shim) $15.00 shipped

Sram X9 Rear Mountain Bike MTB Derailleur Long Cage 10 Speed Black // Red 
(bottom pully is cracked, otherwise great working condition) $25.00 shipped

SRAM X9 10 Speed Right/Rear Shifter $15.00 shipped

2x Set Avid BB7 MTN Mechanical Disc Brake Calipers USED (no rotors) $25.00 
shipped

Vintage Race Face Evolve XC Forged Crank Arms. 175mm $40.00 shipped

Vintage USA ControlTech stem 140mm(!) $15.00 shipped

Nike Men's Poggio Carbon Fiber Road Cycling Shoe Black EU 42 $25.00 shipped

Shimano RD86 Road Shoe SH-RO86L road , size 42 $25.00 shipped

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[RBW] Re: New Wavie Bar Photos

[Drw]

That’s great, thanks for the comparison

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[RBW] Re: New Wavie Bar Photos

[tc]

Correction:

“...(a)you'll be supporting Riv, and (b)might as well get the extra 50mm it 
offers over the **610** A+M.”

Tom

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Wavie Bar Photos

[tc]

Hey Mark,
Thanks. I’m going to hang on to the A+M for the time being. Never know when a 
bike may pop up that needs a bar. If I decide to sell it, I’ll give you first 
refusal, hows that?

Tom

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[RBW] Query for Tig Weld Bar Owners

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

How reflect-y is the wavy tig weld in the sun vs. the rest of the bar?

I realize this minutia calibration to a detail you’ve never paid attention to 
may be puzzling and hard to answer. Here’s why I ask. Bright, shiny, moving 
lights boggle my bludgeoned brain. I shift or cover things that cause bright 
spots. I’d rather not do that with the moose bars I’ll likely be buying, so if 
they do, I’ll buy filleted bars if possible. 

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Wavie Bar Photos

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Tom, that Atlantis is ready for whatever tempestuous waves the trail tosses 
it’s way!

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Wavie Bar Photos

[esoterica etc]

Hey Tom,

Great review and pics of the bars, thanks! So just wondering... since you now 
have the Wavie and it seems like you prefer it, are you looking to sell the 
Ahearne bar? ‘Cause I’m interested in it if you are.

~Mark 

> On Feb 9, 2019, at 19:19, tc  wrote:
> 
> As promised, here's a short review of the Wavie.  I removed the 610 
> Ahearne+Map (A+M) -- which I love -- and installed the Wavie today.  Then 
> took'er out for a 13 mile spin.  
> 
> Pics of the A+M and the Wavie on the Atlantis here.
> 
> I'll include 1 inline pic below of the 660 Wavie (top), 610 A+M, and 560 
> Albatross:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Looks:
> It's a nicely-proportioned bar.  Along with the beefier Nano 2.1s, it gives 
> the Atlantis even more of a roughneck look, which I like.This bar is as 
> flat as a pancake, unlike the A+M, which has a 25mm rise.  The original 
> Atlantis is a great-looking bike IMHO, and ... the Wavie ... is the gravy ;)
> 
> Comfort:
> Wavie is minutely better for me than the A+M because it's 50mm (1.96") wider. 
>  Riders with wider shoulders may notice and appreciate this ever so slight 
> advantage when out on the grips.  Angle is great, just like A+M; the Wavie 
> has a slightly shallower back sweep angle, but I found this insignificant.  
> Another really comfortable, more athletic position is placing hands at the 
> bends, with thumbs curled under the bar.  Today was kinda chilly, and this 
> position would have been even more comfortable had I wrapped the bars (I only 
> had thin cycling gloves, so the chill from the cold bar migrated straight to 
> my hands quickly).  When installing it I rotated the bar so the bar ends 
> angled very slightly downward, arriving at what felt right by straddling the 
> bike and rotating until it felt right.  I didn't have to adjust anything on 
> my ride.
> 
> Function:
> Not significantly different from the A+M.  Both bars offer more than adequate 
> leverage when in or out of the saddle.  The sweep back angle is natural, and 
> you don't even think about it ... which is perfect.  No wrist nor elbow pain. 
>  No significant difference in the amount of space available to mount bag 
> straps, at least for the Acorn Handlebar bag I use, which is 28cm (11") wide 
> and fits fine on both bars.
> 
> Bottom line:  
> If you already have a **610** A+M bar ($65) and like it, I would find it hard 
> to recommend you spend $97 for a Wavie.  I'd recommend that you apply that $$ 
> towards another component.  But if you have the narrower 575 A+M, and you 
> feel you need a wider bar, I'd recommend the Wavie first because (a)you'll be 
> supporting Riv, and (b)might as well get the extra 50mm it offers over the 
> 660 A+M.
> 
> Hope that helps,
> Tom
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Re: [RBW] Help me build a Clem please!

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Welcome, Owen! It’s exciting and full of over-thinking to puzzle out a bike 
build, ain’t it? Grin. One of the gifts of this group is the expertice in 
various details, but in the end, we each have to figure out what works for us 
when the rubber meets the road, the hands the bars, the feet the pedals, the 
rear the saddle. Grin.

You’d said: “Also at 5'11" any idea on which stem riser height I should be 
looking at?” Rivendell uses threaded 1” (? Confirm that, I may have the detail 
wrong? 1.25”?) headsets, so if your question presumes the threadless headsets 
you see on most bike, these are different. The height is very adjustable on Riv 
stems in a wide range. The stem decisions you’ll have are: 1) road brake levers 
(26mm stem) or mountain brake levers (25.?mm diameter stem)? (your bar will 
determine this); stem length (if you go 52 Clem, longer stem length most 
likely, shorter for the large).

I understand the budget constraint, but if you can, wherever your body meets 
the bike, quality matters. Rivendell is great at offering good value parts for 
these, including pedals, but it’s worth spending more on bar and saddle once 
you have an idea what works for you.

Enjoy the delecious torment of thinking about a bike you don’t yet have! We’ve 
all been there, and some of us are always there! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick 

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Re: [RBW] Help me build a Clem please!

[Eric Daume]

I really like the Jones Loop barn on my Clem. Maybe it’s something you
can’t find in Australia, and it would fit in the frame box.

Eric

On Thursday, February 7, 2019, OwenS  wrote:

> Hey everyone, long story short I'm from Australia and after a Riv bike so
> I can ditch the lycra and my race bike :) Am looking at the 52cm Clem H in
> Green, as it seems like a good all rounder and the most affordable of the
> bunch. I can only afford to ship a frameset to Australia so I will need to
> build it up myself. It will be cheaper components to begin with and I'll
> switch them out as funds allow. I want to build a general commuter and
> bikepacking/adventure bike.
>
> Any other Clem H owners out there with a similar use case? Would love to
> hear opinions on component choices. Also at 5'11" any idea on which stem
> riser height I should be looking at?
>
> Thank you all!
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[RBW] Re: Bullmoose Bars Make Brilliant AllWays Adventure Bars

[tc]

Patrick, I'm so happy you like them!  Great review.  Solid, 
confidence-inspiring, the right height and width, great leverage, and 
multiple realistic hand positions.  Uncanny how a bar+stem that's fixed in 
place can be so right for so many situations.

Tom
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[RBW] Re: FS- Tubus & Racktime racks plus Oveja Negra & Revelate bags

[Bruce Smitham]

Everything is SOLD. Thanks

On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 6:25:06 PM UTC-8, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>
> These items are still available in case anyone wants to make an offer
>
> For Sale are some items that I really don't use or are duplicates or don't 
>> fit my bike. Plus CONUS shipping or free San Diego pick up.
>>
>> 1.) Racktime Front Rack in black. Great condition $30 
>>
>> 2.) Racktime Addit rear snapfit rack in black. Mounted and used a few 
>> times with rub marks from Ortliebs. Good condition $40 
>>
>> 3.) Oveja Negra Chuckbucket Handlbar Snack Bag in black and excellent 
>> condition $40
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>

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[RBW] Bullmoose Bars Make Brilliant AllWays Adventure Bars

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Oh, I forgot to say, Erl, I asked Riv about restock, and they said they 
currently have no plans to restock. I imagine they weren’t too high on the 
selling list.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Bullmoose Bars Make Brilliant AllWays Adventure Bars

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks, Erl and Hugh! Aye, Erl, I bought the last pair from Riv. 
https://bluelug.com has them, straight from Japan. Just don’t buy them out 
before I can get another pair or two myself! Grin. Actually, I’m going to be 
trying the ChocoMoose on my QB, but after loving how these wide bars feel, I’m 
wondering if they’ll feel too narrow. I’d like a bit more differentiation 
between the Quickbeam and Hunqabeam, and the bars are a great way to do that, 
but I need to love them equally, or I’ll go with the Bullmoose.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] FS: ILE Bag / Berthoud Decaleur / Light Mounting Parts / Nitto & VO Stems / IRD Cassette / Paul Cable Hanger

[Stephen D]

Nitto Pearl sold. Following items still available:

Light Mounting Package - $45 (includes priority mail shipping) 
Schmidt Aluminum Milled Mount - polished (this attaches your 
light to a round object, such as the Paul Gino, Nitto Lamp Holder, or your 
handlebar) 
Paul Gino - Silver (You supply appropriate bolt) 
Nitto Lamp Holder 

ILE Porteur Bag in Waxed Canvas - $85 (includes USPS ground shipping) 
Bag is in very good condition. Includes both shoulder and tote 
straps. 

Paul Funky Monkey Rear Cable Hanger - $25 (includes USPS ground or first class 
shipping) 
27.2mm clamp diameter 
Anodized Black 

Velo Orange Quill Stem with Removable Faceplate 80mm - $40 (includes USPS 
ground or first class shipping) 
Includes original VO felt bag, very good condition 

Nitto Technomic 70 26.0 Stem - $15 (includes USPS ground or first class 
shipping) 
Looks very used 

Interloc Racing Design (IRD) Elite 9-Speed Wide-Range Shimano Cassette 12-40t - 
$42 (includes USPS ground or first class shipping) 
Used 9-speed IRD Elite 12-40t cassette for Shimano/SRAM 
drivetrains. Has approximately 400 miles on it. 
Includes Wolftooth Road Link 

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Re: [RBW] Bullmoose Bars Make Brilliant AllWays Adventure Bars

[hugh flynn]

A far better review than the one I provided over on iBob for my recent
bullmoose adventures, but couldn't agree more with every word you've
written. They are surprising. Never had a flat bar that offered so many
different hand positions. I have now added them to two of my fixed gears
which see a mixture of on and off road use.

Mono-fixed with threadless bullmoose (Lousy workshop photos. While I did
get out for a ride on this one today after adding Compass Rat Trap Pass
tires, It was too cold for me to bother stopping to get better photos):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Rye1cGcMtpdMVZVh7

Electra Fixed-Delivery with quill bullmoose:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kt6Gk75qGqsj5w7f7

Hugh "Bullish" Flynn
Newburyport, MA

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 3:18 PM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> In which I get a perfect day to test out my new bullmoose bars, with brisk
> temps, steady breezes around 20mph and sneezes up to 40mph, while coming
> and going, climbing and descending, and singletrack with bounce and jounce.
> Delightful!
>
> https://snap.as/deaconpatrick/bullmoose-bars-initial-impressions
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
> www.CatholicHalos.org
> www.DeaconPatrick.org
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[RBW] Bullmoose Bars Make Brilliant AllWays Adventure Bars

[WETH]

Patrick,
That is a great review.  Your photos inspire.  
It appears Riv is out of stock, so I will await their restock to try a pair 
based on your review.
All the best,
Erl

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Re: [RBW] Help me build a Clem please!

[Fullylugged]

shimano Claris or Altus with microshift thumbie shifters, Origin8 stem, 
seatpost, headsets are good and cheap. You can get velocity wheels in 
Australia. Tektro brakes and levers.

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[RBW] Bullmoose Bars Make Brilliant AllWays Adventure Bars

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

In which I get a perfect day to test out my new bullmoose bars, with brisk 
temps, steady breezes around 20mph and sneezes up to 40mph, while coming and 
going, climbing and descending, and singletrack with bounce and jounce. 
Delightful!

https://snap.as/deaconpatrick/bullmoose-bars-initial-impressions

With abandon,
Patrick

www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
www.CatholicHalos.org
www.DeaconPatrick.org

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Re: [RBW] Help me build a Clem please!

[Ray Varella]

Riv used to list some very affordable build kits that would be really hard to 
beat price wise unless you already had a bunch of components. 
I suspect everything shy of bars and wheels would fit in the frame box. 
It would be worth asking them first since you are already getting a frame. 

Ray

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[RBW] Re: ENO Eccentric Freewheel Removal

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

ACS freewheels need their own proprietary tool. Closer to $10 than $40 IIRC.

On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 3:47:41 AM UTC+2, Jim M. wrote:
>
> What kind of freewheel is it? Do you have the right tool to fit it 
> properly? If you do, I'd suggest a long pipe as a cheater bar over the 
> wrench handle.
>
> On Wednesday, February 6, 2019 at 10:27:49 AM UTC-8, Craig Montgomery 
> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone ever remove a single (not WI) freewheel from an ENO eccentric 
>> WITHOUT RESORTING TO BUYING THE ENO TOOL ($40)? 
>>
>> Craig "so tight I could sit on a dime and tell you whether it's heads or 
>> tails" in Tucson. 
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Another Riv Financial Situation Thread

[Cyclofiend Jim]

I was kinda hoping this thread had engaged in a quiet passing... 

On Saturday, February 9, 2019 at 9:53:18 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The MUSA AHH is gone, the Clem and Roadini are TIGed except for the seat 
> lug. I'm not sure what Rivendell bike company you're giving product advice 
> to, AV, but it's not the one currently operating in Walnut Creek. 

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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam angled dropouts - first principles?

[Joe Bernard]

"I’m starting to think the angled dropouts are stupid, though."

Yep. 

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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam angled dropouts - first principles?

[Philip Williamson]

The sliders come with disc tabs. The builder will grind them off for this bike. 
The bike is designed for cantilevers.
 
I’m starting to think the angled dropouts are stupid, though.

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

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[RBW] Re: FS: Garmin GPS watch & Giro shoes sz. 12.5

[Friend]

Garmin sold!  Anyone want these shoes?

On Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 9:54:58 AM UTC-5, Friend wrote:
>
> Very lightly used.  Only owner of both items.  The watch comes with 
> everything included in original purchase, the shoes are just the shoes. 
>  The clip attachments shown in the photos are not included (But I do have a 
> pair of issi pedals I will sell too)
>
> Photos:
> https://imgur.com/a/ymvCRsM
>
> My objective is to get rid of them, not to make money, so any offer that 
> will cover shipping plus a little bit will likely be accepted!  (I'm in 
> Virginia)
>
> Giros page for the shoes
> https://www.giro.com/us_en/privateer-r-38.html
>
> Best Buys page for Garmin
> https://www.tomsguide.com/us/garmin-forerunner-10,review-2632.html
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[RBW] 55cm Joe Appa owners, what's your pbh?

[Michael Morrissey]

Hi. That's what I have. I'm at 86 pbh. I saw your other rivs for sale, and 
you're in NYC, right? Me too. Hit me up off list and I'll let you try my 
Appaloosa. - Michael
Michaelgmorrissey at gmail

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Re: [RBW] Help me build a Clem please!

[James Warren]

Sizewise, I can offer the following: I don't own a Clem, but a family member 
has a 65 cm one. I'm 6'4" with a 93 cm PBH, and the 65 Clem is absolutely too 
big for me, especially with 2 inch tires. A 59 cm one would work well for me.

-Jim W.
 

-Original Message-
>From: Drw 
>Sent: Feb 9, 2019 9:39 AM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Subject: [RBW] Help me build a Clem please!
>
>Have you looked at bike flights shipping costs? I am pretty sure that they’ll 
>be cheaper than what Rivendell uses, but I’d imagine you could buy the 
>bikeflights shipping and have the frame picked up from Rivendell. 
>
>Its really hard to know what stem length you’d want, without knowing what kind 
>of bars you plan to run along with a bunch of other factors. Also, are you 
>sure 52 is the right size? I’d imagine that at 5’11 your at least between the 
>52 and 59.
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[RBW] Re: Another Riv Financial Situation Thread

[Joe Bernard]

The MUSA AHH is gone, the Clem and Roadini are TIGed except for the seat lug. 
I'm not sure what Rivendell bike company you're giving product advice to, AV, 
but it's not the one currently operating in Walnut Creek. 

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[RBW] Re: New Wavie Bar Photos

[a spens]

This picture answers a lot of questions I had about the Wavies.  Sincere 
thanks for posting it, Laing.
Time now to go order some

Al


On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 7:36:16 AM UTC-6, lconley wrote:
>
> Wavie vs, Jones SG 2.5, very similar, Wavies are a little straighter, 
> Jones have a little more straight bar at the ends:
>
> [image: IMG_0121.jpg]
>
> Laing
> Cocoa FL
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 8:09:31 PM UTC-4, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
>
>>
>> After 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Help me build a Clem please!

[Drw]

Have you looked at bike flights shipping costs? I am pretty sure that they’ll 
be cheaper than what Rivendell uses, but I’d imagine you could buy the 
bikeflights shipping and have the frame picked up from Rivendell. 

Its really hard to know what stem length you’d want, without knowing what kind 
of bars you plan to run along with a bunch of other factors. Also, are you sure 
52 is the right size? I’d imagine that at 5’11 your at least between the 52 and 
59.

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[RBW] Re: Another Riv Financial Situation Thread

[Brian Campbell]

The quickest and most meaningful solution is to buy stuff from Riv.

On Saturday, February 9, 2019 at 11:54:38 AM UTC-5, AV wrote:
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/2019-no-3-state-of-the-bunion
>
> In the latest Blahg, Grant again discusses the financial situation. He 
> lists several options for going forward, which I would summarize as: 
> continue to try and squeak by, sell the business, give it to employees, or 
> look for an angel investor. 
>
> I'm sure people will tell me I'm wrong, but for what it's worth, I think 
> at least some of Rivendell's financial problems stem from an awkward 
> pricing scheme. 
>
> On the high end is the AHH, which sells for around custom prices. I would 
> guess that Riv loses some customers here, because why not buy a made to 
> measure frame (eg, a Gunnar) instead? On the lower end, the $900 Clem or 
> Roadini frames sit in a weird spot -- cheaper than a custom but more 
> expensive than, say, a frame from Soma or Black Mountain. So why buy a Clem 
> or Roadini, especially if you prefer classic geometry, as many people do? 
> The lugs? Are lugs really worth losing sales over? Are lugs all that make 
> Rivendell bikes special? And I have to agree that many of the latest 
> designs have lost me.
>
> I think it bears repeating that other companies are succeeding by making 
> Rivendellish bikes for lower prices. For instance, isn't the Black Mountain 
> Road essentially a TIG welded Rambouillet?  Why doesn't Riv offer a line of 
> lower priced TIG frames? Who wouldn't want to buy a TIG version of, say, 
> the Legolas or Quickbeam -- same geo, same tire clearances, same practical 
> features such as rack and fender eyelets, but costing way less? Would it be 
> watering down Riv too much to offer a TIG frame? I mean, the Roadini has 
> only a few lugs. Why not go all the way and bring in new customers who 
> appreciate the kinds of bikes Riv makes but could never afford an Atlantis 
> or AHH? How is that bad? 
>
> Some will object and say, those TIG bikes already exist, go and buy them. 
> To which I respond: Not exactly. I'm pretty sure I would prefer a Grant 
> designed TIG frame over a Surly. And I would rather support a smaller, 
> ethical company like Riv, just as I would rather buy a jacket from 
> Patagonia than Nike. 
>
> I don’t mean to suggest that Grant should start chasing trends or 
> introduce a carbon bike with disc brakes. But I do think there is a middle 
> approach that could bring in more sales, expand the customer base, and yet 
> stay true to the Rivendell philosophy. 
>
> And the lugged bikes would still be there, as always. 
>
>>

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[RBW] Re: anybody using thermarest cot tent?

[Ron Mc]

Hi Mike, sprung for both - with separate coupon buys and my award gift 
certificate, cost me $130 total - quite a gift.  
It was gorgeous early this week, 72, balmy, light mist and got out on the 
greenway



But this weekend is 30 degrees and thunderstorms - a combination I've never 
seen, and a good day for a cot-tent smoke test -

there's also a rainfly



 Yeah, the cat thinks it's her new travel carrier.  

I'm 6'3", 210 lbs, 46L- the 30" x 77" cot fits me exactly right, and the 
26" wide would probably not do.  
Nice the tent snugly fits the 30"-wide cot, making tie-downs superfluous - 
same tent is sold for the 26" x 77" cot. 
You can also pick it up and carry it in this configuration. 
Cot takes awhile to put up and take down. Tent zings. 



Here are both in their carriers, but neither is packed efficiently - I can 
squeeze more than 2" out of the tent/fly bag.  

The 18" length is fixed by the poles.  

With efficient packing, and  if light enough to leave behind two of the cot 
support poles, you could get all of this into a half-frame bag.  

Each item would fit in a half frame bag with room to spare, and both would 
fit in a full frame bag with room to pack more.  

Regards


On Tuesday, February 5, 2019 at 1:16:23 AM UTC-6, Mike Godwin wrote:
>
> That is pretty cool. The tent probably rolls up to size of large burrito. 
> Will need to look at it on my computer
>
> Mike
>

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[RBW] Re: RBW 25 -Atlantic side of things

[Ben Obrien]

excellent! thanks Spencer! 

working on a few promotional items...will regroup with the others involved 
asap. 

On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 8:19:46 PM UTC-5, Spencer wrote:
>
> Here is on version of a route (loop) inside the park. There is one spot 
> where the cliff hangs over the carnage road, I analysis want to put a 
> little pile of ACME bird seed under it. Some more photos too. 
> https://ridewithgps.com/trips/3699799

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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Nick Lindsey]

Beautiful picture.  Would you mind confirming the brand name of the front rack?

Thank you,
Nick

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[RBW] PRICE DROP ||| Re: FS > Brooks, Sugino, Campagnolo, Suntour, Dia-Compe, Salsa, FREE

[David Hallerman]

Good morning,

Some meaningful price drops on the 6 items still available, so consider 
an offer on these bicycle components.
Prices do not include shipping, so send me your zip code if you're 
interested.


(1)  Brooks B.17 Special, black w/copper rails  =  $100 NEW (was $120)
(3)  Campagnolo Record Ergo shifters, carbon 9-speed  =  $210 NEW (no 
cables; was $245)
(4)  Campagnolo Centaur Ergo shifters, grey alloy 10-speed  = $215 NEW 
(no cables; was $255)
(10)  Dia-Compe 986 cantilever brakes silver  =  $22 near-NEW (take off; 
was $25)

(11)  Salsa 50/38 chainring set, 130 BCD  =  $35 NEW (was $45)
(12)  CPI-generic cranks 170 mm 110 BCD  =  FREE (was $10)

You'll find individual pix here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/kpdJmzjucaN9iBcb8

Dave,who really prefers the word "parts" to the word "components"
+
Hudson Valley NY

On 2/3/19 9:22 AM, David Hallerman wrote:


Hello and good day!

A baker's dozen different items available today in my mixed Batch 
Number Three.

Condition noted after price.
Prices do NOT include shipping.
So please send me your zip code if you're interested.

*(1)*  Brooks B.17 Special, black w/copper rails  =  $120 NEW
*(2)*  Sugino AT cranks 170, Vuelta 48/34 chainrings  =  $30 VG
*(3)*  Campagnolo Record Ergo shifters, carbon 9-speed  =  $245 NEW 
(no cables)
*(4)*  Campagnolo Centaur Ergo shifters, grey alloy 10-speed  =  $255 
NEW (no cables)

*(5)*  Suntour XC Pro front derailleur 28.6 clamp  =  $25 EXC
*(6)*  Suntour XC Pro 27.0 seatpost  =  $45 EXC
*(7)*  Stronglight JIS-taper English 110 mm bottom bracket  =  $20 NEW
*(8)*  Stronglight JIS-taper English 113 mm bottom bracket  =  $20 NEW
*(9)*  Suntour Superbe Pro front derailleur 28.6 clamp  =  $35 NEW
*(10)*  Dia-Compe 986 cantilever brakes silver  =  $25 near-NEW (take off)
*(11)*  Salsa 50/38 chainrings, 130 BCD  =  $45 NEW
*(12)*  CPI-generic cranks 170 mm 110 BCD  =  $10 VG
*(13) *Michelin Hi-Lite Cross tires, 700x28  =  FREE

One group photo attached, and you'll find individual pix here:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kpdJmzjucaN9iBcb8

Dave, who likes to note the plethora of vital bicycle companies both 
now and historically whose names start with the letter "S" such as 
Suntour Shimano Sugino Stronglight Salsa SRAM Soma Schwinn Sidi 
Serotta Sakae Specialized


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[RBW] WTT New Sugino XD 40x26 double w/ chainguard for another crankset

[Eric Grim]

I bought a Sugino XD wide/low double 40t x 26t crankset with a chainguard 
from RBW for the MiT Atlantis I'm building up.  170mm crank arms.  
Unfortunately I didn't notice that the five arms of the spider are not 
arranged the way the arms are on every other crankset I have: they're 
rotated just a little, so that one arm of the spider is in line with (that 
is, directly behind) the crank arm.

I hope that makes sense.  I fear that it may not.  If you look at the crank 
page on the Riv website, you'll see what I mean . . . the Silver-brand 
cranks have the spider arranged one way, and the Sugino cranks are arranged 
another way.

Anyway, the way the Sugino's spider is arranged, the Biopace chainrings I 
planned to use won't work; they'll be turned 36-degrees from where they 
were designed to be.

I put the cranks on the spindle and finger-tightened the bots, but there 
has never been a chain wrapped around the chainrings.  (Still need wheels & 
brakes before I can ride this bike.)  So, "like new"?  "As new"?  Just 
"new"?

So, if any of you has a nice crankset with 110mm and 74mm BCD, and would 
like to trade for my cranks, please contact me.  I'd like a triple (so I 
could swap the outermost chainring for a chainguard).  Probably this is a 
long-shot, but I just thought I'd ask.  I'm willing to pay a little cash if 
you think your cranks are worth more than mine.

P.S. Thanks to everyone who suggested ways of finding touch-up paint for 
the bike.  I bought a little bottle of Atlantis Green from Waterford, and a 
little bottle of Testors Russian Naval Interior from that auction site.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tubeless questions

[Mark Anderson]

On Monday, January 28, 2019 at 11:06:30 AM UTC-6, Kainalu V. wrote:
>
>  And the "goo" is latex, which made me flash back to those pesky latex 
> tubes as a possible ultimate tube for the latex gooing, that they 
> themselves being latex would be good for the goo's adhesion, and that 
> they're so stretchy (at least when they're fresh). I still think it might 
> work well with time, once the oozing of the goo subsided, if it can subside 
> that is...
>

The goo contains latex.  It also contains solvents that can maintain the 
latex suspended or dissolved in liquid form.  So, the solvent/carrier can 
probably also dissolve/permeate the latex tube.  Nick's empirical evidence 
is consistent with this scenario.  Butyl rubber is resistant to many 
organic solvents that damage natural latex. The oozing may well subside 
only when the tube is fully destroyed by the sealant.

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell Joe Appaloosa

[Robb]

 WillIt is a 59 cm grey metallic Clem Low. It is offered as a frameset as it 
came from RivBike. The components will be moved to the Chev. I have the box and 
packing from the Chev to ship it in. I'm building a Salsa for my son now and 
could have the Clem ready to ship by the end of next week. 
RobbHampton, VA

On Tuesday, February 5, 2019, 7:37:47 AM EST, Will Ashe 
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 Derek,

If your Clem is a 59cm I’d be interested in purchasing. Let me know if you 
decide to let it go. 

Will Ashe
Austin, Tx

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[RBW] Re: Another Riv Financial Situation Thread

[AV]

https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/2019-no-3-state-of-the-bunion

In the latest Blahg, Grant again discusses the financial situation. He 
lists several options for going forward, which I would summarize as: 
continue to try and squeak by, sell the business, give it to employees, or 
look for an angel investor. 

I'm sure people will tell me I'm wrong, but for what it's worth, I think at 
least some of Rivendell's financial problems stem from an awkward pricing 
scheme. 

On the high end is the AHH, which sells for around custom prices. I would 
guess that Riv loses some customers here, because why not buy a made to 
measure frame (eg, a Gunnar) instead? On the lower end, the $900 Clem or 
Roadini frames sit in a weird spot -- cheaper than a custom but more 
expensive than, say, a frame from Soma or Black Mountain. So why buy a Clem 
or Roadini, especially if you prefer classic geometry, as many people do? 
The lugs? Are lugs really worth losing sales over? Are lugs all that make 
Rivendell bikes special? And I have to agree that many of the latest 
designs have lost me.

I think it bears repeating that other companies are succeeding by making 
Rivendellish bikes for lower prices. For instance, isn't the Black Mountain 
Road essentially a TIG welded Rambouillet?  Why doesn't Riv offer a line of 
lower priced TIG frames? Who wouldn't want to buy a TIG version of, say, 
the Legolas or Quickbeam -- same geo, same tire clearances, same practical 
features such as rack and fender eyelets, but costing way less? Would it be 
watering down Riv too much to offer a TIG frame? I mean, the Roadini has 
only a few lugs. Why not go all the way and bring in new customers who 
appreciate the kinds of bikes Riv makes but could never afford an Atlantis 
or AHH? How is that bad? 

Some will object and say, those TIG bikes already exist, go and buy them. 
To which I respond: Not exactly. I'm pretty sure I would prefer a Grant 
designed TIG frame over a Surly. And I would rather support a smaller, 
ethical company like Riv, just as I would rather buy a jacket from 
Patagonia than Nike. 

I don’t mean to suggest that Grant should start chasing trends or introduce 
a carbon bike with disc brakes. But I do think there is a middle approach 
that could bring in more sales, expand the customer base, and yet stay true 
to the Rivendell philosophy. 

And the lugged bikes would still be there, as always. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

[Davin Dahl]

I've got a 57 Roadini with the Albatross. It's such a great bike. I commute 
on it and take roadish rides. I started with drop bars but prefer the 
current bars by a mile. I have 35mm Gravel King SK's set up tubeless. It 
rolls like butter. Go for it!

On Tuesday, February 5, 2019 at 6:33:58 PM UTC-7, John Bokman wrote:
>
> Can't find info on how big a tire the Roadini can fit? Especially with 
> fenders (I know some offer more clearance than others)?
> A roadini with 35mm tires and center pull brakes is making me think hard 
> about a 57Maybe albastache bars
>
> On Tuesday, February 5, 2019 at 3:55:24 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> If you build up your Atlantis not-heavy, it won't be heavy-built.  My 
>> 56cm 650B Atlantis is under 30 pounds with heavy saddle and seatpost, with 
>> heavy rims, tubes and tires, with heavy stem and hubs, with a pump, front 
>> rack and a Wald basket, and with a double chainring and front derailer.  If 
>> I had wanted to build it light, I could easily save a pound off the seat 
>> and seatpost, three pounds from the wheelset, a pound with a 1x drivetrain, 
>> and two pounds with no front rack and basket.  Is 23 pounds still too 
>> heavy?  Even at 29 pounds it's a deligthful bike.  
>>
>> On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 9:17:43 PM UTC-8, Ash wrote:
>>>
>>> Legolas that takes 50mm 650 tires 

>>>
>>> A not-heavy-built bike that can take 50mm tires?  COUNT ME IN !! 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 3 February 2019 13:44:04 UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Now that I do like.

 On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 10:07 PM Ray Varella  
 wrote:

> I suspect something like a Legolas that takes 50mm 650 tires would 
> attract a fair amount of attention. 
>
> A bit pared down in stoutness from the current allrounders. 
> A refresh of the original allrounder/XO-1 
>
> I’m pretty sure I’d buy one. 
>
> Ray
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[RBW] Help me build a Clem please!

[OwenS]

Hey everyone, long story short I'm from Australia and after a Riv bike so I 
can ditch the lycra and my race bike :) Am looking at the 52cm Clem H in 
Green, as it seems like a good all rounder and the most affordable of the 
bunch. I can only afford to ship a frameset to Australia so I will need to 
build it up myself. It will be cheaper components to begin with and I'll 
switch them out as funds allow. I want to build a general commuter and 
bikepacking/adventure bike. 

Any other Clem H owners out there with a similar use case? Would love to 
hear opinions on component choices. Also at 5'11" any idea on which stem 
riser height I should be looking at? 

Thank you all! 

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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam angled dropouts - first principles?

[Victor Hanson]

Philip,

I would not go for the disk brake tab.  I my limited experience it was
primarily a bad idea to "Rube Goldberg" the mounting post and caliper.   I
also equate the sliding disc mounts in this category.  Either go for disk
brakes or rims brakes, if you do booth vertical drop outs.  Its geared at
any rate.

VTW

On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 4:41 PM Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> My reasons for choosing sliders are mostly to do with future setups still
> looking planful. I do like the Matt-Chester-like simplicity of track ends,
> but this bike is primarily a geared bike. A vertical dropout and a
> derailleur hanger are nice to have for a geared bike. If I want to run
> singlespeed or fixed, I can swap the right insert to one with no derailleur
> hanger. In the unlikely event I want to run disk brakes, I can remove the
> canti bosses and install a slider with a disk brake tab. The slider also
> allows me to move the tire away from the seat tube and bridges when I want
> to install fenders. I've had an eccentric BB, and it was fine, but required
> a dedicated shell, the new owner had it creak, and I couldn't adjust tire
> clearance or remove the derailleur hanger.
>
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 6, 2019 at 2:57:33 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> +1 for this question; I also am thinking of a custom for a single-cog
>> hub, and had thought of angled track ends versus long dropouts.
>>
>> Phiipl: Why sliding dropouts instead of long horizontals or track ends?
>> Or than an eccentric bb, for that matter?
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 3:53 PM Philip Williamson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm having a custom bike built, and it will have slider dropouts for
>>> singlespeed use.
>>> I want the builder to angle the dropouts like my Quickbeam's, so I can
>>> change the gears without adjusting the brake shoe height or angle.
>>>
>>> The Quickbeam dropouts are angled ~20* relative to the ground, and about
>>> 10* relative to the stay.
>>> The dropout slot angle ALSO looks like it is parallel to the brake
>>> shoes. To my mind, this is the key fact. Is it?
>>>
>>> The new bike's seat stay angle is more acute than the QB's, and its BB
>>> is lower. Do the relative angles not really matter, as long as the dropout
>>> slot is parallel to the brake shoe angle?
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> Santa Rosa, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Wavie Bar Photos

[Chip Martens]

Hey Bob,

I just messaged Riv today and it sounds like they're going to send me the 
drawings soon to add to the site. Keep an eye on my Instagram updates for 
when they're up!


On Tuesday, February 5, 2019 at 9:10:55 AM UTC-6, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> I am hoping the Wavie bars find their way to whatbars.com soon...  Does 
> anyone know if they are already there but under a different name?
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[RBW] Re: Roadini handlebar ideas

[Chip Martens]

Hey tc,

I've talked to Jeremy @ Sycip and the JJ and JJJ bars will be up soon. I 
talked to Will @ Riv and the Wavies should be up shortly as well!

On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 6:13:32 AM UTC-6, tc wrote:
>
> Surprised no one has mentioned Bullhorns.  Never had them, but like the 
> Albastache (in a different way), they offer multiple hand positions for 
> relaxed and aggressive riding, but the stretch to the aggressive position 
> (at least the shorter-style bullhorns) isn't as much as a drop.  I've seen 
> a ton of different brake/shifter combo's on bullhorns, too.  (Note I'm not 
> against the Albastache; I actually have one ready to mount if I decide to 
> go that direction ... just shopping around for different ideas at this 
> point.)  
>
> I'm still getting used to the look of thembut some actually look 
> pretty cool.
>
> Anyway, those of you that have experience with bullhorns, I'd love to hear 
> your pro's and con's - thanks.
>
> Tom
>
> PS. Joe, I like that JJ bar, as well as its brother, the JJJ.  I wish 
> whatbars.com had them to compare.  From the looks of the JJ, the 31.8 Riv 
> Wavie will likely be a direct competitor.
>
>
>
> Tom
>
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Woolrich coat and pants

[Steve Butcher]

Announcing the Coat and Pants set has been sold.  Thanks to all the viewers 
and those who have inquired.  Steve.

On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 6:30:41 AM UTC-6, Steve Butcher wrote:
>
>
> With over 500 viewers of this post, I'll go ahead and drop my final price 
> to $80.00 shipped to the lower 48 CONUS.  This outfit would probably  help 
> take some of the bite out of the polar vortex folks.  Please send me a 
> direct message if you're ready to go for them.
>
> Steve
> On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 8:27:26 AM UTC-6, Steve Butcher wrote:
>>
>> Good morning, forum,
>>  This Woolrich coat and pants set is still available.  I'd take 
>> $100.00 for the set shipped to lower 48 CONUS.  There is still going to be 
>> plenty of winter so you can enjoy and get some use out of them.  Please 
>> private message me if you'd like to proceed.
>>
>> Thanks, 
>> Steve
>>
>> On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 6:29:08 AM UTC-6, Steve Butcher wrote:
>>>
>>> [image: 20181206_111859.jpg]
>>> Good morning Rivendellians!
>>>
>>>  As it is evident that Rivendellians appreciate wool garments, it 
>>> got me to thinking about this coat and pants set I've had hanging in my 
>>> closet for several years.  This could be considered New Old Stock as I 
>>> don't see that Woolrich offers this pattern of plaid at this time.  First, 
>>> I will offer some backgroound information.  Some years ago, I was in Bass 
>>> Pro Shops Outlet store in Springfield, Missouri and found this coat and 
>>> pants.  I was rather taken by the look, construction, and quality of the 
>>> product.  Both the coat and pants were brand new and not returned items 
>>> (the rack actually had several) but I decided to have them dry cleaned.  I 
>>> never wore them because they are really intended for very cold and snowy 
>>> weather; which we were not getting at the time.  So...the set has remained 
>>> in the cleaning bag and hanging in my bedroom closet.  I really need to 
>>> make some room in the closet and this set should be in the possession of 
>>> someone who will use them.  The coat is a size Large which, according to 
>>> the Woolrich size chart should be a 42-44 chest.  The pants are a 36 inch 
>>> waist.  The blend is 85% Wool and 15% Nylon for both.  The coat is lined 
>>> with a tan cotton twill lining and is all button closure for both the coat 
>>> and pockets.  The pants are not lined but have an elastic cuff at the 
>>> bottom of the legs.  Now, wouldn't these pair up nicely with a Rivendell 
>>> Granfors Axe or Hatchet!  Would bring out one's inner Paul Bunyan, eh?   
>>> I'm asking $150.00 shipped CONUS.  Please send me a private message for any 
>>> questions.
>>>
>>> Steve Butcher
>>> Stockton, Missouri 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Lever effect of stem length et al on steering and handling

[Ron Mc]

Think all of us like multiple hand position options on bars, part of it is 
comfort, part of it is control, part of it is wind.  
As a rule, longer stem and wider bars give you the most control, and you 
actually use your arms to steer.  In the narrow positions, you steer mostly 
with lean and less (if at all) with your arms.  
As far as weight on bars, should reserve that for braking, and use core 
muscle support for your weight.  

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[RBW] Re: Cost to have a previously offered model made

[Bob B]

I don't know about All Rounders, but last time Hunqs were listed on the 
website, I'm about 95% sure it was at $2700. 

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[RBW] Cost to have a previously offered model made

[tc]

Thanks all. Yes, I absolutely wouldn’t think of doing anything without several 
conversations with Grant first. I’m just trying to get a ballpark cost from 
those who’ve actually done this — just to confirm  my fears, er, thoughts.

Also, by posing the question here, it may help others, too. Given the 25th 
Anniversary thread, my guess is that others are pondering this very question. 

Thanks again - 
Tom 

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[RBW] Re: Cost to have a previously offered model made

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Tom,

I second Bill’s advice. I asked Grant if I ordered a custom for my fixed gear 
bikepacking, how close would it be to a Boots. He laughed and said: “I wish 
everyone who wanted a custom would start by asking me that.” Excepting the 
dropout swat to horizontal, 98-100% was his answer. I’m not in a position to 
get a custom yet, but I may since the dropout thing couldn’t happen, but I have 
every confidence that if I got the Boots he would be exactly right that it is 
the bike for me.

With abandon,
Patrick

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