date:20190927

Should I be a little depressed that *all* my bikes look  like this?

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 7:53:45 PM UTC-4, Adam Leibow wrote:
>
> .
> some ideas for making the bike look shittier than it is:
> - plastic grocery bag wrapped around saddle
> - ratty/worn/stained bar tape (un-shellacked cloth tape is great for this 
> and it's nice beausage)
> - minimize polished parts, increase worn parts (rusty steel quill stem?)
> - if drop or albastache bars, use non-aero brake levers
> - cleverly placed sticker here or there (decrease pristine factor)
>
> hope this helps
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Dirtdrop (+bonus clem + map/ahearne S240 pics)

2019-09-27 Thread J Imler

What size? If it's 10cm 25.4 send me a PM.

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 8:52:47 AM UTC-7, David Baldi wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've recently swapped the Boscos on my Clem H for (flipped) Map/Ahearnes. 
> Love the Boscos, love the Maps—I took the Maps on a short camping trip and 
> really enjoyed having a little push-up power over the super rocky roads. 
> Wasn't expecting to rig em tops-y-turvey but couldn't go back once I tried. 
> Pics attached. I have also included a few from a camping trip a few years 
> bag in San Rafael Wilderness (w the big boskies). My final Bosco v 
> Map/Ahearne consensus: Clem is a rocking versatile bike and in either case 
> I felt like I could ride forever. For ref I am 6'1, BPH 91.5, and this is a 
> 59. It is a beautiful time of year in CT. 
>
> But yes, now looking for a DirtDrop stem—let me know if you have one you 
> would like to get rid of. I was comfortable enough, but I am concerned 
> about reach/rise ratio (stem is flyin high to comp for the upside-downers).
>
> Thanks!
> David
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/kozcrkA2kKooK9iA7
>
> [image: IMG_1718.jpg]
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread Jan O.

I run 650B x 48mm Big Ben on my Atlantis and they are great all around 
tires. They roll very well and have good puncture protection.

Jan
San Francisco, CA


On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 8:32:46 AM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> Alright, I’m just catching up since I had an event that went late into 
> last night. I have opened the proverbial can of worms here. I was supposed 
> to say, “Please figure out this tire problem. Tell me what to get and how 
> to make the black speckles stop.” and you were supposed to say, “1. Do 
> this. And 2. Do that.” And then problem solved, right?! 
>
> I might be more conflicted than when I started regarding tires, but I DID 
> order the Kool Stop brakes and will have those installed. I’m pretty sure 
> that will stop the black speckling issue. As for tires, I know some have 
> been ok with the Kendas and like how they keep the bike from taking itself 
> too seriously (looks-wise) but I am going to switch them out. The 
> Clementine feels, even on flat land, a big sluggish. I rarely shifted on my 
> Betz but I need to on the Clementine, like the bike is always in a gear 
> that’s a little too hard. I want to see if better tires would help that. 
>
> So, in light of that, do we think Schwalbe Big Bens in 50 will be the 
> ticket?

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Re: [RBW] ideas for daytime visibility: vests and whatnot

2019-09-27 Thread John McBurney

In the bright daylight neon clothing is helpful. I have a very lightweight
Descent nylon neon wind vest made for runners that I wear during hot
weather. During fall and spring I like my Sugoi reflective and convertible
jacket-vest. It’s neon when it’s daylight, but covers your torso in
reflective dots when lights hit it in the dark. It’s too warm for hot
weather but since the sleeves attach with magnets it’s pretty versatile.
Waterproof but not for a long downpour.

My go to for winter all conditions is a Showers Pass Club Visible jacket
and Refuge Pants. Neon. waterproof. Wind proof. Lots of reflection.

One thing to consider is movement. Wheel light or good reflectors do this
in the dark.  I like Flektr wheel reflectors. I backed their indie go go
campaign last year and supported them again this year.

https://www.flectr.bike

John

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 2:37 PM Mark Roland 
wrote:

> I commute in a construction worker style safety vest bright yellow with
> big reflective silver stripes. Try to find one with a good zipper, not
> velcro closures. These come in a variety of weights, including mesh. Google
> construction safety vest and you'll get a million different options and
> price ranges.
>
> I also have a dayglow yellow  pants band, again with reflective silver.
> And I use the orange and yellow safety triangle. Also run a dyno headlight
> set up, and/or a Cygo-lite with a flashing daylight LED mode (I never use
> the flash mode at night.) I imagine I can tell a difference in the
> willingness of cars to pull out in front of me when I have the light versus
> when I don't.
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Re: [RBW] Re: ideas for daytime visibility: vests and whatnot

2019-09-27 Thread David Bivins

I thank you for your consideration for others, Eric. In NYC, most bike
lights that I see are mounted on temporary mounts (because you have to take
them off so they don't get stolen), and in my experience driving all over
the country, many, many motorists do not have their headlights focused
properly.

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 8:20 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> A properly designed light, like an Edelux, has a “cutoff” beam like the
> one on your car or truck. The light is focused downward on the road, where
> it needs to be.
>
> “Blinding” lights tend to have a comical pattern like a flashlight. The
> light shines up and down equally, creating a hazard for oncoming bikes
> (and, sometimes) vehicles.
>
> I use only focused lights on my randonneuring bikes. In addition to being
> more respectful of others, they’re more efficient because you’re not
> expending effort to light up the sky.
>
> –Eric N
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ideas for daytime visibility: vests and whatnot

2019-09-27 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch

A properly designed light, like an Edelux, has a “cutoff” beam like the one on 
your car or truck. The light is focused downward on the road, where it needs to 
be. 

“Blinding” lights tend to have a comical pattern like a flashlight. The light 
shines up and down equally, creating a hazard for oncoming bikes (and, 
sometimes) vehicles. 

I use only focused lights on my randonneuring bikes. In addition to being more 
respectful of others, they’re more efficient because you’re not expending 
effort to light up the sky. 

–Eric N


> On Sep 27, 2019, at 3:55 PM, David Bivins  wrote:
> 
> 
> Unless you're in the country without street lights, Why would someone ride 
> with a super-high lumens headlight? I argued this with a fellow cyclist 
> friend who was bragging that his headlight is "blinding." To what purpose?! 
> If you must, point it angled downward so you can see potholes or the road. I 
> used to come up over the Manhattan Bridge and get temporarily 
> blinded--literally--by cyclists with insane front lights. And it goes without 
> saying that if you're in a protected bike lane (like on the Manhattan Bridge) 
> you can at least temporarily turn it off. I really don't get it. 
> Even in a car I have trouble with other vehicles with the insanely bright LED 
> headlights. They effectively wash out my entire rear-view mirror because the 
> contrast ratio between them and the rest of the scene behind me is 100:1.
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 6:29 PM Jack K  wrote:
>> Somewhere in the cycling archive that used to be my garage I have a new mesh 
>> safety vest I ordered, but never used, that I'd be happy to pass on to 
>> someone who can use it for the cost of shipping. I ordered this hi-vis 
>> one-size-fits-most safety vest several years ago from Nashbar, but 
>> discovered when it arrived that I'm smaller than the one size it mostly 
>> fits. Still in it's package, but I'd have to dig around for it. 
>> "Construction worker style" and pretty bulky over a cycling jersey on my 
>> 5'7" frame, but if you're bigger or riding in street clothes or want maximum 
>> real estate devoted to retina searing safety yellow then this may work 
>> better for you than it did for me.
>> 
>> Someone mentioned the reflective safety triangles as a "game changer" and 
>> I'll second that! The common Aardvark brand one could use a bit more velcro 
>> strappage to keep it from flopping around, but is extremely visible. This 
>> thing: 
>> https://www.nashbar.com/aardvark-reflective-triangle-yield-symbol-7x7-with-velcro-strap-yeild-symbol/p435349
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> -Jack
>> Raleigh, NC
>> 
>> 
>>> On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 4:40:53 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You can get mesh safety vests sold for cyclists, runners, etc. They don't 
>>> weigh anything and they comes in all sorts of sized to wear over anything. 
>> 
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[RBW] Re: Make my AHH look less tempting!

2019-09-27 Thread Adam Leibow

i lock up all my rivendells all over san francisco, and it might be safe to 
say san francisco is worse than the town in the UK for bike theft. & i have 
never had a bike stolen (i even went to UCSB). i attribute this to a couple 
of factors:
- i always lock my bike in a bright prominent area with a lot of foot 
traffic (nearby a hotel main entrance, for example). bonus points if you 
can see your bike from wherever it is you'll be going. 
- i go crazy overboard on locks. u lock for the frame, second u lock/abus 
bordo for the front wheel, small abus chain lock through saddle and rear 
wheel. remove all bags. 
- always bring bike inside whenever possible. 

some ideas for making the bike look shittier than it is:
- plastic grocery bag wrapped around saddle
- ratty/worn/stained bar tape (un-shellacked cloth tape is great for this 
and it's nice beausage)
- minimize polished parts, increase worn parts (rusty steel quill stem?)
- if drop or albastache bars, use non-aero brake levers
- cleverly placed sticker here or there (decrease pristine factor)

hope this helps

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 12:04:00 PM UTC-7, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Evening all-
>
> I'm interested in some group brainstorming. I recently moved to a 
> university area where I'm told there is a high incidence of bike theft. 
> (Granted this is a town in the UK and I just move here from Philadelphia, 
> so perhaps I should take that claim with a grain of salt). Nevertheless, my 
> AHH will shortly arrive here via Bikeflights. 
>
> I'm a firm believer in riding my 'good bikes' anywhere and everywhere, but 
> I don't want to tempt fate. So I'm looking for ideas: how could I make my 
> Hilsen look less desirable to opporunistic British bike thrives? It's brown 
> and has albatross bars so it already looks a bit like an old British beater 
> to the uninformed. But all brainstorming welcome! I was thinking lots of 
> stickers and a bit of thoughtfully-smeared dirt.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Eric
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread Joe Bernard

Franklyn, my advice to the young lady weighed heavily towards the 'no flats' 
side, which basically started and ended with "get Big Bens, they'll work." She 
rides with the kids back and forth to school every day and REALLY can't afford 
many road side repairs, so I think this was the way to go. 

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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread franklyn

I am amazed not one person mentioned Schwalbe G-One 27.5x2.0 or Panaracer 
Gravel King 48mm (27.5), not mention the Compass/Rene Herse Tires! They are 
lighter and "suppler" than any Schwalbe tires mentioned here!

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 8:59:47 AM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> The tires aren’t doing the dusting - we suspect the brake pads are. Did 
> you see the photos? Our commute is concrete - a sidewalk made extra wide, 
> and I don’t spend a lot of time on the blacktop. Cars reign supreme up 
> here, and with those big, wide paths and few if any pedestrians, we stay on 
> concrete. See my original post for where the speckles appear and don’t 
> appear 
>
> Sent from my iPad 
>
> > On Sep 27, 2019, at 8:52 AM, johnboy > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Leah, I’ve never noticed tires “dusting” my frame .Could it be 
> something on the roads you are riding? Where on the frame does it appear? 
> Where doesn’t it? John 
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[RBW] Re: FS: All NEW! SONdeluxe Widebody, Icebreaker, Ortlieb, Garmin Edge 1030, Sidi Touring Shoes, GK 650Bx1.75"

2019-09-27 Thread Jack K

Updated FS list below. Some new stuff, some previously posted stuff at
reduced prices. See photos in original post above.

At a minimum the new SONdeluxe Widebody at $235 and new Ortlieb Hi-Vis
Sport-Roller panniers at $155 are pretty unbeatable pricing on top-shelf
bits. Please have a look!

Cheers,

-Jack K.
Raleigh, NC

- *NEW SONdeluxe "Widebody" Dynohub: *New-in-the-box, 32 hole, black
anodized, 24 grams heavier than standard SONdeluxe, description from RH
website: "The Delux Wide-Body features extra-wide flange spacing (68 mm
vs. 50 mm) and a steel axle for a much stronger wheel. This hub is strong
enough for off-road racing and even tandems." More info and photos here:

*https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/hubs/sondelux-wide-body-generator-hub/

*Retail $285
* $235 + $10 shipping *
- *(SOLD) NEW Icebreaker 100% Merino Baselayer:* New-in-the-box, Men's
medium, dark navy color, long sleeve, half zip. *$50 + $6 shipping*
- *NEW Traditionall Sidi Touring Shoes: *Bought new 15+ years ago and
stored in my closet since, size 42 (but a tight 42), Riv sold these back in
the day and they were popular with the iBOB's as well, SPD compatible by
removing access port on bottom of sole.
* $125 + $10 shipping *
- *NEW Tektro (Nashbar Branded) Inline Brake Levers: *Fits 25.4-26.0 mm
bars, silver lever with black hinged clamp.
* $10 + $5 shipping *
- *EC Stronglight Ironlight Cranks:* Polished silver, 130mm BCD, JIS
taper, English threading, very light and truly excellent used condition.
*$110
+ $8 shipping **Reduced to $100 + $8 shipping*
- *NEW Ortlieb "High Visibility" Sport Roller Panniers:* Roll-top
waterproof Sport-Roller's with entire surface of the pannier covered in
reflective beads for night visibility and made in a retina searing day-glo
yellow for visibility day, night, rain, fog or bright sun. Impulse buy when
I saw them on sale, but, honestly, my old plain yellow Ortliebs have a few
more decades of life in them. These are them:

https://www.rei.com/product/870523/ortlieb-front-roller-high-visibility-panniers-pair

Retail is $240.
*$165 + $15 shipping Reduced to $155 + $15 shipping *
- *NEW Garmin Edge 1030 Bundle Ultimate Bike Computer:* Another impulse
buy this spring when I saw it on sale and I was having fantasies of roaming
the back roads of America this summer, just me and my velocipede ... In
reality I've never even taken it out of it's box, since my old Edge Touring
works well enough for the my needs riding close to home. This is Garmin's
top-end model with more features than I even know about, much less could
relate here. It does have "heat map" routing so computed routes use roads
and trails often ridden by cyclists, which was the main improvement I was
interested in over my older model. Note, this is the "Bundle", which
includes premium heart-rate monitor and speed/cadence sensor, "out front"
mount, etc... This guy: https://www.jensonusa.com/Garmin-Edge-1030-Bundle
Retail $699.* $545 + $10 shipping.*
- *NEW Pair of Panaracer Gravel King 650Bx1.75 Tires:* I decided to go
with skinnier Schwalbe G-One Speed's instead on my first 650B equipped
bike. *$60 + $10 shipping *
*Reduced to $55 + $10 shipping*

Newly added items:

- *NOS Shimano 8s Bar-end Shifter Set:* New-In-Box set of Ultegra-level
8s (friction option) bar-end shifters with cables, downtube cable
stops/adjusters, 3 pieces of pre-cut black housing and handlebar "fairings"
to fit over the housing. *$70 + $8 shipping*
- *NOS Shimano 8s Bar-End Shifters:* New-In-Box, as above, but missing
the downtube cable stops and includes gray pre-cut housing. *$55+$8
shipping*

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Re: [RBW] Re: ideas for daytime visibility: vests and whatnot

2019-09-27 Thread David Bivins

Unless you're in the country without street lights, Why would someone ride
with a super-high lumens headlight? I argued this with a fellow cyclist
friend who was bragging that his headlight is "blinding." To what purpose?!
If you must, point it angled downward so you can see potholes or the road.
I used to come up over the Manhattan Bridge and get temporarily
blinded--literally--by cyclists with insane front lights. And it goes
without saying that if you're in a protected bike lane (like on the
Manhattan Bridge) you can at least temporarily turn it off. I really don't
get it.
Even in a car I have trouble with other vehicles with the insanely bright
LED headlights. They effectively wash out my entire rear-view mirror
because the contrast ratio between them and the rest of the scene behind me
is 100:1.

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 6:29 PM Jack K  wrote:

> Somewhere in the cycling archive that used to be my garage I have a new
> mesh safety vest I ordered, but never used, that I'd be happy to pass on to
> someone who can use it for the cost of shipping. I ordered this hi-vis
> one-size-fits-most safety vest several years ago from Nashbar, but
> discovered when it arrived that I'm smaller than the one size it mostly
> fits. Still in it's package, but I'd have to dig around for it.
> "Construction worker style" and pretty bulky over a cycling jersey on my
> 5'7" frame, but if you're bigger or riding in street clothes or want
> maximum real estate devoted to retina searing safety yellow then this may
> work better for you than it did for me.
>
> Someone mentioned the reflective safety triangles as a "game changer" and
> I'll second that! The common Aardvark brand one could use a bit more velcro
> strappage to keep it from flopping around, but is extremely visible. This
> thing:
> https://www.nashbar.com/aardvark-reflective-triangle-yield-symbol-7x7-with-velcro-strap-yeild-symbol/p435349
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Jack
> Raleigh, NC
>
>
> On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 4:40:53 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> You can get mesh safety vests sold for cyclists, runners, etc. They don't
>> weigh anything and they comes in all sorts of sized to wear over anything.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Recommended Painters in Eastern US



  Yes , in Ohio I've had a custom built by Franklin Frames and a 
repair/repaint of a Bombadil.  Very Nice for single color paint jobs I 
requested !  He used Dupont Imrom paint though he may have others. 

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[RBW] Re: ideas for daytime visibility: vests and whatnot

2019-09-27 Thread Jack K

Somewhere in the cycling archive that used to be my garage I have a new 
mesh safety vest I ordered, but never used, that I'd be happy to pass on to 
someone who can use it for the cost of shipping. I ordered this hi-vis 
one-size-fits-most safety vest several years ago from Nashbar, but 
discovered when it arrived that I'm smaller than the one size it mostly 
fits. Still in it's package, but I'd have to dig around for it. 
"Construction worker style" and pretty bulky over a cycling jersey on my 
5'7" frame, but if you're bigger or riding in street clothes or want 
maximum real estate devoted to retina searing safety yellow then this may 
work better for you than it did for me.

Someone mentioned the reflective safety triangles as a "game changer" and 
I'll second that! The common Aardvark brand one could use a bit more velcro 
strappage to keep it from flopping around, but is extremely visible. This 
thing: 
https://www.nashbar.com/aardvark-reflective-triangle-yield-symbol-7x7-with-velcro-strap-yeild-symbol/p435349

Cheers,

-Jack
Raleigh, NC

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 4:40:53 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>
>
>
> You can get mesh safety vests sold for cyclists, runners, etc. They don't 
> weigh anything and they comes in all sorts of sized to wear over anything. 
>

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[RBW] Re: ideas for daytime visibility: vests and whatnot

2019-09-27 Thread 'Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch

Hi Neil,

I wear the orange version of this shirt 
.
 
 It's the brightest shirt I've ever seen (brighter live than in the 
picture), lightweight, and inexpensive.  It nearly glows.  Available with 
long sleeves, too.  

Dave

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[RBW] Re: ideas for daytime visibility: vests and whatnot

2019-09-27 Thread Jim M.

Nott mentioned in this thread yet (but I think I saw a previous discussion, 
maybe on iBoB) is the pool noodle:
[image: Image result for pool tube as bike safety]

https://www.sfgate.com/travel/resources/transit/article/pool-noodle-bicycle-safety-protected-lane-bike-13923482.php#

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[RBW] Re: Make my AHH look less tempting!

2019-09-27 Thread Sean Steinle

Definitely don't uglify it. I mean, half of what you pay for in a Rivendell 
is aesthetics (this is coming from a Hilsen owner). My experience is that 
most people only think carbon fiber drop bar bikes and full sus. mtbs are 
nice and expensive. Rivs basically look like old steel bikes with nice 
paint jobs to most people. 

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[RBW] Re: ideas for daytime visibility: vests and whatnot



You can get mesh safety vests sold for cyclists, runners, etc. They don't 
weigh anything and they comes in all sorts of sized to wear over anything. 

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[RBW] Re: Smaller tires on Cliffhanger rims? Snoqualmie (44mm) or small as 38mm? Sam Hillborne 700c



I can't speak to Cliffhangers but I used to ride 28-30mm tires on 25mm(OD) 
Mavic A719 rims. I never thought twice about. I see now Mavic list the rims 
as for 25-47mm tires.  In Road racing circles it's common to pair a 25mm 
tire and 25mm rims.  Velocity may be covering their legal agreements in 
their recommendations. 

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations on cycling to Rivendell and around San Francisco and the Bay Area

2019-09-27 Thread dougP

One more thing:  at the Main Branch of the San Francisco Public Library, a 
bicycle themed photo exhibit is on display.  All photos were sourced from 
riders, not professional shots.  I don't know where the branch is but it 
should be easy to find.  I've not seen it but supposed to be worth a look.

dougP

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 10:06:44 PM UTC-7, Ana Candela wrote:
>
> Thank you all for your recommendations. I have been incorporating them 
> into my planning, and now I just gave the final touches to prepping my 
> bike. I am thinking of doing most of your suggestions, or as much as I can. 
> I’ll be sure to post photos. Evan: I won’t be able to make it to the 
> pancake ride, as I’ll be back home by then, but thank you! 
>
> If you see a purple Riv cruising in the Bay Area, wave or ring your bell 
> or both!    
>
> -Ana 
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[RBW] Re: ideas for daytime visibility: vests and whatnot

2019-09-27 Thread Steve Butcher

My helmet is HiVis Yellow.  Also, I wear a mesh Hi Vis Yellow vest with 
some reflective bits attached.  My bike has reflectivee and blaze orange 
triangles front and back.  I also use a front flaashing light and a rear 
blinking red light for subdued lighting in the morning or evening.  One of 
my rear reflecttive ttriangles  attaches to my rear rack and extends out 
about 18 inches.  It is spring loaded bounces around quite a bit so is 
attention getting.  Hope this information helps.

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 1:09:34 PM UTC-5, Neil Doran wrote:
>
> Over the last few weeks I've had two close calls with automobiles during 
> my morning commute that really seem to come down to 'I didn't see you'.
>
> I currently have a dyno hub with full-time lights front and rear, and try 
> and ride predictably, but seems like I need to up my visibility game. I'm 
> thinking a very bright and loud reflective vest. Needs to be pretty light 
> weight though, maybe even a mesh.
>
> Any suggestions from the group mind on either vests you have been happy 
> with, or other tips n tricks for daytime visibility?
>

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[RBW] Re: ideas for daytime visibility: vests and whatnot

2019-09-27 Thread Grady Wright

I saw this vest at a Carhartt store and it seemed very bright and 
reflective. they run large for wearing over clothing so may want to size 
down.

https://www.carhartt.com/products/high-visibility/High-Visibility-Class-2-Vest-100501


On Friday, 27 September 2019 12:09:34 UTC-6, Neil Doran wrote:
>
> Over the last few weeks I've had two close calls with automobiles during 
> my morning commute that really seem to come down to 'I didn't see you'.
>
> I currently have a dyno hub with full-time lights front and rear, and try 
> and ride predictably, but seems like I need to up my visibility game. I'm 
> thinking a very bright and loud reflective vest. Needs to be pretty light 
> weight though, maybe even a mesh.
>
> Any suggestions from the group mind on either vests you have been happy 
> with, or other tips n tricks for daytime visibility?
>

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[RBW] Re: Make my AHH look less tempting!

2019-09-27 Thread John Phillips

Heavy duty Abus U-locks or chain locks, and Hexlox for components? Cheap 
plastic saddle?

Where are you going to park it?

John

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 12:04:00 PM UTC-7, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Evening all-
>
> I'm interested in some group brainstorming. I recently moved to a 
> university area where I'm told there is a high incidence of bike theft. 
> (Granted this is a town in the UK and I just move here from Philadelphia, 
> so perhaps I should take that claim with a grain of salt). Nevertheless, my 
> AHH will shortly arrive here via Bikeflights. 
>
> I'm a firm believer in riding my 'good bikes' anywhere and everywhere, but 
> I don't want to tempt fate. So I'm looking for ideas: how could I make my 
> Hilsen look less desirable to opporunistic British bike thrives? It's brown 
> and has albatross bars so it already looks a bit like an old British beater 
> to the uninformed. But all brainstorming welcome! I was thinking lots of 
> stickers and a bit of thoughtfully-smeared dirt.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Eric
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Make my AHH look less tempting!

2019-09-27 Thread rpeters . vetpath

I’m with keeping the lovely bike as is. Could deploy PitLocks on the wheel 
skewers and seat post to deter parts thieves. Makes wheel removal and seat 
adjustment more of a pain though.

Sometimes I think thefts are random and more to do with how easy something is 
to steal...park next to the person with a cable lock!??

Rachel


> On Sep 27, 2019, at 3:34 PM, PaulS  wrote:
> 
> I would say just ride it as-is.  Don't bugger it up with stickers, tape, or 
> whatever else on that beautiful frame.  My guess is: MOST people wouldn't be 
> able to tell the difference between that bike and a $100 vintage Schwinn.  
> And people that DO know what it is, would be like all the Riv people I've 
> met---nice, decent, honest, good-hearted people who will give you a 
> compliment than even think about stealing your bike.
> 
> I'd be more concerned about dings and dents from other careless riders. 
> 
>> On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 1:04:00 PM UTC-6, Eric Karnes wrote:
>> Evening all-
>> I'm interested in some group brainstorming. I recently moved to a university 
>> area where I'm told there is a high incidence of bike theft. (Granted this 
>> is a town in the UK and I just move here from Philadelphia, so perhaps I 
>> should take that claim with a grain of salt). Nevertheless, my AHH will 
>> shortly arrive here via Bikeflights.
>> 
>> I'm a firm believer in riding my 'good bikes' anywhere and everywhere, but I 
>> don't want to tempt fate. So I'm looking for ideas: how could I make my 
>> Hilsen look less desirable to opporunistic British bike thrives? It's brown 
>> and has albatross bars so it already looks a bit like an old British beater 
>> to the uninformed. But all brainstorming welcome! I was thinking lots of 
>> stickers and a bit of thoughtfully-smeared dirt.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance!
>> 
>> Eric
>> 
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Re: [RBW] ideas for daytime visibility: vests and whatnot

2019-09-27 Thread Toshi Takeuchi

If you are only talking about daylight visibility, then I agree with the
construction worker vest. You don't even need one that zips up. You can
use the one you pull over your head and has no sides--the ones that buckle
on the sides stay in place pretty well. dontgethit.com has some selections
that work well. I got the reflective collars for my kids, but they are
small for adults.

The fluorescent colors do help. People have told me that my fluorescent
colored helmet can be seen from very far away, so if you wear a helmet a
hi-vis one would be recommended. Maybe you can change your socks at work,
but if you get super hi vis ankle length socks, then you see them moving up
and down during the day and they can be seen from quite far away too (out
here you get these all black wearing riders with bright pink or yellow
socks, or sometimes fluorescent shoe covers--all you see is their ankle or
foot moving around). If I am wearing long pants, then I tuck my pants into
my socks. It helps keep them out of the chain and makes my beautiful socks
visible. Maybe not fashionable, but we're trying not to get hit. At
night, I definitely use the ankle bands to keep my pants tucked close--Riv
ones are the best!

Fluorescent clothes emit light (that is what fluorescence is). That is why
they seem unnaturally bright. I don't use blinking lights--perhaps because
I am too lazy to use battery powered lights. My dynamo front and rear are
always on, and my fluorescent clothes are quite easily seen (at least I've
been told) even in the shade--except for when the sun is coming directly in
the eyes, in which case seeing anything can be difficult!

--Riding style: don't zig in and out of the parked cars. If there is a big
gap you can go in to the parked car space for others to pass, but quickly
take a line that will get wide of the parked cars slowly and predictably,
so the cars know you are going to be in that space soon. Use a rearview
mirror to see behind you and plan appropriately.

Don't hug the cars on the side of the road. If you are riding in the door
zone, then if a person opens the car door on you, then you will get
"doored" and crash. Also it is harder to see you when you blend in with
the parked cars. On roads with two lanes in the same direction with no
bike lane and moderate speed traffic, I take the lane and ride in the
middle of the lane. This is especially important when it is not safe for
two cars, you and a parked car all lined up side by side. If you take the
lane, then ride like a car. Don't go around the cars at a stoplight, just
to have them have to figure out how to pass you and then you have to work
your way back into your own lane. If you keep your spot in the line, then
the cars will respect your position and not get as annoyed with you.

The safety triangles that Riv sells are really good. I mounted one on the
back of my seat and did notice a significant improvement in space given to
me by cars.

--Just my general commuting tips--that will generally make you much more
visible, but not necessarily directed at the original poster.

Toshi

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[RBW] Re: Make my AHH look less tempting!

I would say just ride it as-is.  Don't bugger it up with stickers, tape, or 
whatever else on that beautiful frame.  My guess is: MOST people wouldn't 
be able to tell the difference between that bike and a $100 vintage 
Schwinn.  And people that DO know what it is, would be like all the Riv 
people I've met---nice, decent, honest, good-hearted people who will give 
you a compliment than even think about stealing your bike.

I'd be more concerned about dings and dents from other careless riders. 

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 1:04:00 PM UTC-6, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Evening all-
>
> I'm interested in some group brainstorming. I recently moved to a 
> university area where I'm told there is a high incidence of bike theft. 
> (Granted this is a town in the UK and I just move here from Philadelphia, 
> so perhaps I should take that claim with a grain of salt). Nevertheless, my 
> AHH will shortly arrive here via Bikeflights. 
>
> I'm a firm believer in riding my 'good bikes' anywhere and everywhere, but 
> I don't want to tempt fate. So I'm looking for ideas: how could I make my 
> Hilsen look less desirable to opporunistic British bike thrives? It's brown 
> and has albatross bars so it already looks a bit like an old British beater 
> to the uninformed. But all brainstorming welcome! I was thinking lots of 
> stickers and a bit of thoughtfully-smeared dirt.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Eric
>
>

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[RBW] Re: ideas for daytime visibility: vests and whatnot

2019-09-27 Thread Neil Doran

Good stuff here, per the usual. Indeed, I am inquiring generally about 
daylight conditions, but fall is here, and winter not far behind!

Gotta say I totally forgot about the yellow ankle band! I have two of the 
high quality units that do indeed stick out like a flag. I've used them 
during winter commuting and on long rides where I am in and out of tree 
shadow, I think the circular motion of something bright yellow must help 
with visibility.

I also have suffered behind fellow riders at night that are running 
NASA-grade blinky lights. My current setup is the Riv-approved Secula that 
mounts on the seat stay. Only one mode (steady on) and one brightness (not 
that bright). I've become so fond of the dyno setup with 'always on' lights 
and never a thought to charge or batteries.

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RE: [RBW] Make my AHH look less tempting!

2019-09-27 Thread Laing Conley

Plasti dip makes removable spray coating that you can use to ugly it up and 
then peel off at a later date.


Laing Conley  


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Subject: [RBW] Make my AHH look less tempting!

Evening all-

I'm interested in some group brainstorming. I recently moved to a university 
area where I'm told there is a high incidence of bike theft. (Granted this is a 
town in the UK and I just move here from Philadelphia, so perhaps I should take 
that claim with a grain of salt). Nevertheless, my AHH will shortly arrive here 
via Bikeflights. 

I'm a firm believer in riding my 'good bikes' anywhere and everywhere, but I 
don't want to tempt fate. So I'm looking for ideas: how could I make my Hilsen 
look less desirable to opporunistic British bike thrives? It's brown and has 
albatross bars so it already looks a bit like an old British beater to the 
uninformed. But all brainstorming welcome! I was thinking lots of stickers and 
a bit of thoughtfully-smeared dirt.

Thanks in advance!

Eric

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

2019-09-27 Thread Greg J

Congrats!  That's my holy grail Riv also -- and exactly my size!

If you want to see the original catalogs/paraphernalia from those years, 
and are in Oakland/Berkeley, stop by sometime.  I have a bunch!  

Greg/Oakland

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 10:17:42 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Oh, first ride report: Light, maneuverable but tracks straight and true, 
> super fun. It's a Rivendell!

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[RBW] Re: Make my AHH look less tempting!

2019-09-27 Thread Brian Campbell

Wrap the frame tubes in yellow electrical tape.

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 3:04:00 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Evening all-
>
> I'm interested in some group brainstorming. I recently moved to a 
> university area where I'm told there is a high incidence of bike theft. 
> (Granted this is a town in the UK and I just move here from Philadelphia, 
> so perhaps I should take that claim with a grain of salt). Nevertheless, my 
> AHH will shortly arrive here via Bikeflights. 
>
> I'm a firm believer in riding my 'good bikes' anywhere and everywhere, but 
> I don't want to tempt fate. So I'm looking for ideas: how could I make my 
> Hilsen look less desirable to opporunistic British bike thrives? It's brown 
> and has albatross bars so it already looks a bit like an old British beater 
> to the uninformed. But all brainstorming welcome! I was thinking lots of 
> stickers and a bit of thoughtfully-smeared dirt.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Eric
>
>

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[RBW] Make my AHH look less tempting!

2019-09-27 Thread Eric Karnes

Evening all-

I'm interested in some group brainstorming. I recently moved to a university 
area where I'm told there is a high incidence of bike theft. (Granted this is a 
town in the UK and I just move here from Philadelphia, so perhaps I should take 
that claim with a grain of salt). Nevertheless, my AHH will shortly arrive here 
via Bikeflights. 

I'm a firm believer in riding my 'good bikes' anywhere and everywhere, but I 
don't want to tempt fate. So I'm looking for ideas: how could I make my Hilsen 
look less desirable to opporunistic British bike thrives? It's brown and has 
albatross bars so it already looks a bit like an old British beater to the 
uninformed. But all brainstorming welcome! I was thinking lots of stickers and 
a bit of thoughtfully-smeared dirt.

Thanks in advance!

Eric

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[RBW] Re: ideas for daytime visibility: vests and whatnot

Some of the responses above seem to reference dark/night-time riding.  I 
thought the question was regarding daylight hours.

For me, from what I've observed both on the bike and driving, is that 
cyclists' apparel does not do anything during daylight hours.  Light, 
reflective, dark, orange, etc.---once the cyclist rides under the shadow of 
a tree, building, etc., they "disappear".  Reflective gear doesn't work, 
since half the cars have their lights off and there is too much ambient 
light.  In my opinion, a light emitting source is needed.

Bright rear AND front lights are a must.  BLINKING mode, not constant on, 
got my attention the most.  Maybe even two lights.  Don't get a minimalist 
Knog or the likes. I can barely see those at night time, let alone during 
the day.  I use PDW Radbot and one of their other taillights (can't 
remember the name), and Lezyne headlight (~1200 lumens).  Very bright and 
visible in full daylight.

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[RBW] Re: Smaller tires on Cliffhanger rims? Snoqualmie (44mm) or small as 38mm? Sam Hillborne 700c

2019-09-27 Thread Pancake

Treefort bikes:
$145 for rear: 
https://www.treefortbikes.com/Quality-Wheels-Rear-Wheel-Clydesdale-XL-Rim-Brake-700c
$110 for front: 
https://www.treefortbikes.com/Quality-Wheels-Front-Wheel-Clydesdale-XL-Rim-Brake-700c

The front seems to be available everywhere else for $125. 

Limitations on this wheelset are it's Deore hubs (not LX T670, not XT 
T780), straight gauge spokes, and is machine built. Adds some weight and 
apparently the seals on the deore hubs are not as good, but still good. 

Abe



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> $255 Cliffhanger wheelset?! Where? (If you don't mind sharing) I'll take 2 
> please...
> -Kai

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[RBW] ideas for daytime visibility: vests and whatnot

I commute in a construction worker style safety vest bright yellow with big 
reflective silver stripes. Try to find one with a good zipper, not velcro 
closures. These come in a variety of weights, including mesh. Google 
construction safety vest and you'll get a million different options and price 
ranges.

I also have a dayglow yellow  pants band, again with reflective silver. And I 
use the orange and yellow safety triangle. Also run a dyno headlight set up, 
and/or a Cygo-lite with a flashing daylight LED mode (I never use the flash 
mode at night.) I imagine I can tell a difference in the willingness of cars to 
pull out in front of me when I have the light versus when I don't.

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Re: [RBW] ideas for daytime visibility: vests and whatnot

2019-09-27 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch

Neil:

Famous sag driver Lee Mitchell, who spent countless (thousands?) of hours 
following cyclists day and night, used to say that the single most effective 
piece of reflective gear is an ankle band. The reflectivity and the motion 
capture a driver’s attention and immediately say, “This is a bicycle.” Lee 
would advise that ankle bands work better than vests or taillights.

My favorite is this one from Rivendell Bicycle Works: 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/ankle-reflector-rar 

The two ends of the band attach to each other in a way that they create a 
“flag” that sticks out to the side for more visibility.

And, SINCE YOU ASKED, please give me a second to step on my soapbox and say a 
word or two about superbright taillights: THEY SUCK!! Here in the US, we’ve 
gotten caught up in a taillight arms race, in which rear-facing lights are now 
as bright as front-facing lights were just a few years ago. A bike with a 
superbright taillight is impossible to ride behind—all you can see is a big red 
glow in front of you. This forces the poor following rider to ride out to the 
side (not safe) or far back (not very sociable, and makes drafting impossible) 
or out ahead of the rider with the superbright light (not very fair to the 
rider who’s just trying not to be blinded).

Lights this bright aren’t needed. Really, you don’t need much light to be 
visible from pretty far away on a dark road. I note that when I was riding PBP 
this year, the vast majority of cyclists (from outside the US) had reasonably 
bright taillights. The arms race hasn’t taken hold over there … yet.

And don’t get me started on riders whose taillights are pointing upward, rather 
than straight back, making them more effective at blinding fellow riders and 
less visible to motorists.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
@CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)

> On Sep 27, 2019, at 11:09 AM, Neil Doran  wrote:
> 
> Over the last few weeks I've had two close calls with automobiles during my 
> morning commute that really seem to come down to 'I didn't see you'.
> 
> I currently have a dyno hub with full-time lights front and rear, and try and 
> ride predictably, but seems like I need to up my visibility game. I'm 
> thinking a very bright and loud reflective vest. Needs to be pretty light 
> weight though, maybe even a mesh.
> 
> Any suggestions from the group mind on either vests you have been happy with, 
> or other tips n tricks for daytime visibility?
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Re: [RBW] ideas for daytime visibility: vests and whatnot

2019-09-27 Thread esoterica etc


The safety triangles that Riv sells- they’re a game changer!

~Mark 
Raleigh, NC


> On Sep 27, 2019, at 14:09, Neil Doran  wrote:
> 
> Over the last few weeks I've had two close calls with automobiles during my 
> morning commute that really seem to come down to 'I didn't see you'.
> 
> I currently have a dyno hub with full-time lights front and rear, and try and 
> ride predictably, but seems like I need to up my visibility game. I'm 
> thinking a very bright and loud reflective vest. Needs to be pretty light 
> weight though, maybe even a mesh.
> 
> Any suggestions from the group mind on either vests you have been happy with, 
> or other tips n tricks for daytime visibility?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Painters in Eastern US

2019-09-27 Thread Bruce Herbitter

My single coat with blast and prime was $120.  My Ram with cream headtube, fork 
crown and lug windows done right and decals applied under 2 clear coats was 
$240.  Pics if interested.  This is the guy in Pelham.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 27, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Touriste-Routier  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> The Color Factory in Waretown, NJ does inexpensive paint jobs.  I'd call them 
> C+ grade (If Joe Bell is A+); not great on detail work (like filling in lug 
> panels), but you can get something stripped. blasted, painted 1 color, 
> decaled and clear coated for ca $200 (not including the decals).  This is 
> less than many charge for powder coat.  Paint will be thick, but it passes 
> the 5 foot test.  
> 
> For a much better paint job try Franklin Frames in OH.  You'll pay more, but 
> the detail work and overall quality is better.  
> 
> Brian Ignatin
> Pineville, PA  USA
> 
> 
> 
>> On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 9:15:19 AM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote:
>> I had good luck with Bilenky in Philadelphia and I also had a good 
>> experience with Hanford Cycles, also in Philadelphia. There is Franklin 
>> frames in Ohio if that is closer and I know folks who have had work done 
>> there and been happy.
>> 
>>> On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 8:55:32 PM UTC-4, tc wrote:
>>> For those that have had frames painted in the Eastern US, can you recommend 
>>> a painter?  Anyone to stay away from?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tom
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[RBW] ideas for daytime visibility: vests and whatnot

2019-09-27 Thread Neil Doran

Over the last few weeks I've had two close calls with automobiles during my 
morning commute that really seem to come down to 'I didn't see you'.

I currently have a dyno hub with full-time lights front and rear, and try 
and ride predictably, but seems like I need to up my visibility game. I'm 
thinking a very bright and loud reflective vest. Needs to be pretty light 
weight though, maybe even a mesh.

Any suggestions from the group mind on either vests you have been happy 
with, or other tips n tricks for daytime visibility?

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Re: [RBW] Smaller tires on Cliffhanger rims? Snoqualmie (44mm) or small as 38mm? Sam Hillborne 700c

2019-09-27 Thread esoterica etc



Abe,

I ended up getting a used wheelset with Velocity Atlas rims and I’ve been 
running Soma Cazaderos (42mm) on them. No issues at all and I’m really happy 
with the wheelset and the tires. 

~Mark 


> On Sep 27, 2019, at 12:44, Pancake  wrote:
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> Marc, thanks for the detailed and specific reply! What wheelset / rim did you 
> end up using instead?
> Abe
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[RBW] Re: Offroad Mountain Clem-L’s

2019-09-27 Thread Jeremy Till

Not an L, but my 59cm Clem H is my primary offroad machine: 

https://flic.kr/p/24FBzeV

Old picture but the setup hasn't changed: Jones Loop bars on 31.8mm VO 
quill stem, Cliffhanger rims and 2.2" knobbies, 2x9 drivetrain with no 
front derailleur (I call it my "double 1x").

-Jeremy Till
Sacramento, CA

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 5:31:01 AM UTC-7, j.schwartz wrote:
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> Who has their Clem L set up as a true off-roader ?
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[RBW] Smaller tires on Cliffhanger rims? Snoqualmie (44mm) or small as 38mm? Sam Hillborne 700c

2019-09-27 Thread Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY

$255 Cliffhanger wheelset?! Where? (If you don't mind sharing) I'll take 2 
please...
-Kai

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[RBW] Re: FS: New Nitto threadless tig Bullmoose Bars

2019-09-27 Thread Paul M

SOLD. Went to a good soul.

On Friday, 27 September 2019 07:07:22 UTC-7, Paul M wrote:
>
> Still for sale. No shipping cost to CA,OR,WA  Thanks.
>
> On Friday, 27 September 2019 04:42:41 UTC-7, alan lavine wrote:
>>
>> I’ll take them! 
>> Send details please. 
>> Thanks 
>> Alan nyc 
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Re: [RBW] Smaller tires on Cliffhanger rims? Snoqualmie (44mm) or small as 38mm? Sam Hillborne 700c

2019-09-27 Thread Pancake

Marc, thanks for the detailed and specific reply! What wheelset / rim did you 
end up using instead?
Abe

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Re: [RBW] Smaller tires on Cliffhanger rims? Snoqualmie (44mm) or small as 38mm? Sam Hillborne 700c

2019-09-27 Thread esoterica etc


Abe,

Earlier this year, I had this very same question, albeit for 650b Cliffhangers 
instead of your 700c ones. I was wanting to find out what Velocity’s opinion 
was on running narrower tires outside of the “optimum range”- specifically, 
from 43mm down to 38mm. I contacted them and here’s their response:

“Hello Mark,
 
You might be ok with a 43mm, taking it down to 38 is probably too risky.  The 
skinnier you go, the greater the chance of a tire blow off.  Running with tubes 
is more secure than without, but I can’t really say what the limits are.  Some 
tires fit tighter than others so there is no hard and fast rule.”

FWIW, I ended up getting a different, narrower wheelset in which 38-44mm was in 
the “optimum range”. 

~Mark 
Raleigh, NC


> On Sep 27, 2019, at 11:54, Pancake  wrote:
> 
> Summary: plan to switch to tubeless setup, but how small a tire is safe / 
> wise on a 700c Velocity Cliffhanger rim? Snoqualmie (44mm) should be fine, 
> but can I use even smaller tires if I want later?
> 
> Details: 
> Cliffhangers are tubeless compatible, 25mm internal and 30mm external width 
> rims. Basically a wider, tubeless ready version of the Atlas rims I have now. 
> 
> Velocity says the optimal tire width for Cliffhanger rims in 700c is 45mm - 
> 65mm. I figure my current Snoqualmie tires will work fine, but if I want to 
> slap on fenders someday I would need to use 40mm tires, maybe 38mm. 
> 
> Someone posted that they comfortably ran 40mm tires on Cliffhangers, they 
> even suggested it added to the "supple" feel of the ride. Is 40mm as low as 
> you would consider for these rims, or would 38mm be reasonable? 
> 
> Why tubeless? 6 flats in a month (around 250 miles) from glass and goatheads 
> plus a couple pinch flats. Twice got two flats on the same short ride. Not 
> something stuck in the tire, I found a new thorn or glass shard every time 
> (or the large cut from pinch flats). That pushed me over the tubeless edge 
> and I'm looking to buy a tubeless wheelset. I currently have Atlas rims and 
> Snoqualmie 44mm tires on my fenderless Sam Hillborne. 230 pound rider with 
> mostly roads but plenty of random gravel and some slow single track thrown in.
> 
> Planning on XT hubs, DT Swiss double butted spokes, Cliffhanger rims, brass 
> DT nipples, (wheelset built for $375) and Snoqualmie Pass tires. Eventually 
> this wheelset could make it to my Cheviot if the versatile Sam it switched 
> around one day, but the Cheviot rides nicely now with Atlas rims and a dynamo 
> hub and Basketball tires as my daily commuter.
> 
> Alternatively, I can get Cliffhanger rims, straight DT spokes, and Deore hubs 
> wheelset machine built for $255 shipped is someone wants to convince me that 
> the Deore hubs are good enough and the straight spokes are fine for a $120 
> savings. 
> 
> Thanks for your suggestions and advice in advance,
> 
> Abe in Napa with too many flats
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[RBW] Re: Looking for a Betty Foy (55cm or smaller)

A 55cm Cheviot in Light or Dark Sage would work as well.  I'd probably end 
up having "Betty Foy" stickers made up to go over the Cheviot decal (which 
is under the clear coat, unfortunately).

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 9:11:01 AM UTC-6, PaulS wrote:
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> Anyone holding a 55cm or smaller Betty Foy?  Looking for my wife.  Thanks.
>

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[RBW] Re: Offroad Mountain Clem-L’s

2019-09-27 Thread Joe Bernard

A Clem L all blacked out with mtb stuff looks RAD! Dang, now I want one again...

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[RBW] FS: 59cm MIT Atlantis Frame/Fork/Headset

2019-09-27 Thread Adam Leibow

Hello All,

Catch & release Atlantis frameset for sale. I got this from clayton.sf to 
try it out since it was a good deal. I like it a lot but I think I'm more 
married to keeping my Clem L as my offroad shredder Rivendell. 

Asking $1100 (same price Clayton.SF asked). I will favor a local sale in 
San Francisco, but I'm willing to ship this frameset if you let me take 
some time to find a box and package it properly. 

Here is a picture of it from last weekend: 
https://www.instagram.com/p/B25uo6dFEWs/

please text (310) 963 ahfghjfdhgfjdf 6959 with interest. thanks!

-Adam

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread REC (Roberta)

I have some Kenda tires (not sure which ones) on my Joe Appaloosa. I think 
they are 45 wide.  I pump them to 65 ( I think that is the max) and don't 
pump them up again until they get that squishy feeling, then pump them up 
again.  I do like them a touch less than the max, but much more than 
squishy.  I'm not sure what pressure that is.  Still fairly firm though for 
me.

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 10:28:08 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
> On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 4:59:25 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>>
>> Why does everyone love barely inflated tires? I put the max air in mine 
>> and ride them rock hard! Otherwise they feel flat to me. I fly over bumps 
>> and stay in the saddle and let my bones rattle! I’m doing it wrong, I 
>> know...
>>
>>
> I can give you one good reason (besides comfort) why you might not want to 
> inflate wide tires to max pressure unless you've very heavy.  When you pump 
> a wide tire up to high pressure it can become very bouncy with a 
> considerable rebound on hard impacts, a bit like a basketball. That can, in 
> some circumstances, snatch the handlebars right out of your hands.  It 
> happened to me, and I crashed as a result, breaking my collar bone.  I'm 
> not talking here about the biopace-like surging you might get at very low 
> pressure, where you can feel the bike squishing the tires down on each 
> pedal downstroke, but rather the SPROING bounce you get when you throw a 
> basketball down onto the pavement.  
>
> Your "bones rattling" comment reminds me of a time at Bike Virginia, back 
> when they still had dinner put on by a community organization.  I was 
> standing in line waiting for them to open, and couldn't help overhearing 
> the guy in front of me discussing tire pressure with his friends.  He 
> looked a bit like a football player - large, obviously over 250 lb.  He was 
> from Virginia Beach, and was talking about how much he enjoyed going 
> downhill on "the bridge" -- evidently, the only hill in town -- on his 19mm 
> tires inflated to 150 psi.  "Rock hard," he said, and at 30 mph the bike 
> vibrated so much he said "it *really* felt fast!"
>
> It is true you don't get the same super cushy ride benefit from lower tire 
> pressure with chunky, rigid-sidewall tires as you do with supple tires with 
> flexible sidewalls, but there's still a benefit to having your tires as the 
> proper pressure for your weight.  At just under 100kg I'm well over the 
> Clydesdale line and there are very few tires that I need to inflate to the 
> "max pressure".  And I'll bet you a chocolate milkshake I weigh a lot more 
> than you do.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread Steve Palincsar

Make sure you have a good grip on the bars, in that case.

On 9/27/19 11:38 AM, Leah Peterson wrote:

I both laughed and shuddered over the football player’s bone-shaking.

Yes, that’s what I like - the basketball bounce you get on full tires
- I’ve just never thought of it that way! Don’t take this from me!
Because now I’m a little concerned. But maybe not concerned enough to
ride around on sloppy tires. We’ll see.

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 27, 2019, at 7:28 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote:

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 4:59:25 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle
Ding Ding! wrote:

Why does everyone love barely inflated tires? I put the max air
in mine and ride them rock hard! Otherwise they feel flat to me.
I fly over bumps and stay in the saddle and let my bones rattle!
I’m doing it wrong, I know...

I can give you one good reason (besides comfort) why you might not
want to inflate wide tires to max pressure unless you've very heavy.
When you pump a wide tire up to high pressure it can become very
bouncy with a considerable rebound on hard impacts, a bit like a
basketball. That can, in some circumstances, snatch the handlebars
right out of your hands. It happened to me, and I crashed as a
result, breaking my collar bone. I'm not talking here about the
biopace-like surging you might get at very low pressure, where you
can feel the bike squishing the tires down on each pedal downstroke,
but rather the SPROING bounce you get when you throw a basketball
down onto the pavement.

Your "bones rattling" comment reminds me of a time at Bike Virginia,
back when they still had dinner put on by a community organization.
I was standing in line waiting for them to open, and couldn't help
overhearing the guy in front of me discussing tire pressure with his
friends. He looked a bit like a football player - large, obviously
over 250 lb. He was from Virginia Beach, and was talking about how
much he enjoyed going downhill on "the bridge" -- evidently, the only
hill in town -- on his 19mm tires inflated to 150 psi. "Rock hard,"
he said, and at 30 mph the bike vibrated so much he said "it /really/
felt fast!"

It is true you don't get the same super cushy ride benefit from lower
tire pressure with chunky, rigid-sidewall tires as you do with supple
tires with flexible sidewalls, but there's still a benefit to having
your tires as the proper pressure for your weight. At just under
100kg I'm well over the Clydesdale line and there are very few tires
that I need to inflate to the "max pressure". And I'll bet you a
chocolate milkshake I weigh a lot more than you do.

Steve Palincsar
Alexandria, Virginia
USA

Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread Leah Peterson

The tires aren’t doing the dusting - we suspect the brake pads are. Did you see 
the photos? Our commute is concrete - a sidewalk made extra wide, and I don’t 
spend a lot of time on the blacktop. Cars reign supreme up here, and with those 
big, wide paths and few if any pedestrians, we stay on concrete. See my 
original post for where the speckles appear and don’t appear

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 27, 2019, at 8:52 AM, johnboy  wrote:
> 
> Leah, I’ve never noticed tires “dusting” my frame .Could it be something on 
> the roads you are riding? Where on the frame does it appear? Where doesn’t 
> it? John
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

  Yes 50 is right, they'll be about 46mm and you might have to get the 
fenders adjusted when installed, maybe not hopefully the mechanic is 
competent ! 

*Schwalbe Big Ben, RaceGuard Performance line, wire bead, HS439 - 650B x 48 
(50-584, 27.5x2) - 10138 - 745g, 35-70 psi*



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Ding! wrote:
>
> Wait, not in 50 - where did I get that? Who put this idea in my head? 
>
> The tire size is “27.5 x 1.75” and the bike has fenders.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine


   I've had some Kenda tires of a different model, they were fairly light 
and folding even . and they too felt sluggish. The Big Bens, despite 
weighing much more ride so much better and as I've said repeatedly  
roll and roll and roll . on over yonder and hill and dale. I ride the 
exact same hills with my much lighter road bike and I ride up in the same 
gears and speed that is ... slow ! Ahahahahaha ! 

  Big Bens it is .  Call them the killer B's ...


On Friday, SepteThe Clementine feels, even on flat land, a big sluggish. I 
rarely shifted on my Betz but I need to on the Clementine, like the bike is 
always in a gear that’s a little too hard. I want to see if better tires 
would help that. 

>
> So, in light of that, do we think Schwalbe Big Bens in 50 will be the 
> ticket?

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[RBW] Smaller tires on Cliffhanger rims? Snoqualmie (44mm) or small as 38mm? Sam Hillborne 700c

2019-09-27 Thread Pancake

*Summary*: plan to switch to tubeless setup, but how small a tire is safe /
wise on a 700c Velocity Cliffhanger rim? Snoqualmie (44mm) should be fine,
but can I use even smaller tires if I want later?

*Details: *
Cliffhangers are tubeless compatible, 25mm internal and 30mm external width
rims. Basically a wider, tubeless ready version of the Atlas rims I have
now.

Velocity says the
optimal tire width for Cliffhanger rims in 700c is 45mm - 65mm. I figure my
current Snoqualmie tires will work fine, but if I want to slap on fenders
someday I would need to use 40mm tires, maybe 38mm.

Someone posted that they comfortably ran 40mm tires on Cliffhangers, they
even suggested it added to the "supple" feel of the ride. *Is 40mm as low
as you would consider for these rims, or would 38mm be reasonable? *

Why tubeless? 6 flats in a month (around 250 miles) from glass and
goatheads plus a couple pinch flats. Twice got two flats on the same short
ride. Not something stuck in the tire, I found a new thorn or glass shard
every time (or the large cut from pinch flats). That pushed me over the
tubeless edge and I'm looking to buy a tubeless wheelset. I currently have
Atlas rims and Snoqualmie 44mm tires on my fenderless Sam Hillborne. 230
pound rider with mostly roads but plenty of random gravel and some slow
single track thrown in.

Planning on XT hubs, DT Swiss double butted spokes, Cliffhanger rims, brass
DT nipples, (wheelset built for $375) and Snoqualmie Pass tires. Eventually
this wheelset could make it to my Cheviot if the versatile Sam it switched
around one day, but the Cheviot rides nicely now with Atlas rims and a
dynamo hub and Basketball tires as my daily commuter.

Alternatively, I can get Cliffhanger rims, straight DT spokes, and Deore
hubs wheelset machine built for $255 shipped is someone wants to convince
me that the Deore hubs are good enough and the straight spokes are fine for
a $120 savings.

Thanks for your suggestions and advice in advance,

Abe in Napa with too many flats

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Painters in Eastern US

2019-09-27 Thread Touriste-Routier

The Color Factory in Waretown, NJ does inexpensive paint jobs.  I'd call 
them C+ grade (If Joe Bell is A+); not great on detail work (like filling 
in lug panels), but you can get something stripped. blasted, painted 1 
color, decaled and clear coated for ca $200 (not including the decals).  
This is less than many charge for powder coat.  Paint will be thick, but it 
passes the 5 foot test.  

For a much better paint job try Franklin Frames in OH.  You'll pay more, 
but the detail work and overall quality is better.  

Brian Ignatin
Pineville, PA  USA

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 9:15:19 AM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
> I had good luck with Bilenky in Philadelphia and I also had a good 
> experience with Hanford Cycles, also in Philadelphia. There is Franklin 
> frames in Ohio if that is closer and I know folks who have had work done 
> there and been happy.
>
> On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 8:55:32 PM UTC-4, tc wrote:
>>
>> For those that have had frames painted in the Eastern US, can you 
>> recommend a painter?  Anyone to stay away from?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread johnboy

Leah, I’ve never noticed tires “dusting” my frame .Could it be something on the 
roads you are riding? Where on the frame does it appear? Where doesn’t it? John

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[RBW] Re: Ride/Race Report: Old Growth Classic in Santa Cruz

2019-09-27 Thread tuolumne bikes

I lived at Big Basin in the late 1990s/early 2000s when my wife was a 
ranger at the park. At that time it might have been thought pretty funny to 
propose hosting an insanely successful (sold out second year!) bike event 
on the legal to ride unpaved roads in the park and at Butano. It was all 
about not being able to ride the single track hiking trails. So congrats to 
us all for the mainstreaming of unpaved road riding and to MBOSC and park 
management for working to cooperate on this event. Keep it crumb clean at 
Big Basin! 

Carl, Columbia, CA 


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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!

Wait, not in 50 - where did I get that? Who put this idea in my head? 

The tire size is “27.5 x 1.75” and the bike has fenders.

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[RBW] Re: Looking for a Betty Foy (55cm or smaller)

Wife loves the light blue color on the Betty.  Plus the red hearts.  Does 
the Yves have the heart lugs?  I think the Cheviot does.  If I bought a 
bike with another color, I'd have to respray it.  I doubt it would be 
cheap (?).

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 9:28:04 AM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> There's a 52cm black Yves Gomez in my stable.  It belongs to my wife, but 
> she's been hinting at wanting an e-assist bike for grocery runs.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 8:11:01 AM UTC-7, PaulS wrote:
>>
>> Anyone holding a 55cm or smaller Betty Foy?  Looking for my wife.  Thanks.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread Leah Peterson

I both laughed and shuddered over the football player’s bone-shaking. 

Yes, that’s what I like - the basketball bounce you get on full tires - I’ve 
just never thought of it that way! Don’t take this from me! Because now I’m a 
little concerned. But maybe not concerned enough to ride around on sloppy 
tires. We’ll see.

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 27, 2019, at 7:28 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 4:59:25 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>> Why does everyone love barely inflated tires? I put the max air in mine and 
>> ride them rock hard! Otherwise they feel flat to me. I fly over bumps and 
>> stay in the saddle and let my bones rattle! I’m doing it wrong, I know...
>> 
> 
> I can give you one good reason (besides comfort) why you might not want to 
> inflate wide tires to max pressure unless you've very heavy.  When you pump a 
> wide tire up to high pressure it can become very bouncy with a considerable 
> rebound on hard impacts, a bit like a basketball. That can, in some 
> circumstances, snatch the handlebars right out of your hands.  It happened to 
> me, and I crashed as a result, breaking my collar bone.  I'm not talking here 
> about the biopace-like surging you might get at very low pressure, where you 
> can feel the bike squishing the tires down on each pedal downstroke, but 
> rather the SPROING bounce you get when you throw a basketball down onto the 
> pavement.  
> 
> Your "bones rattling" comment reminds me of a time at Bike Virginia, back 
> when they still had dinner put on by a community organization.  I was 
> standing in line waiting for them to open, and couldn't help overhearing the 
> guy in front of me discussing tire pressure with his friends.  He looked a 
> bit like a football player - large, obviously over 250 lb.  He was from 
> Virginia Beach, and was talking about how much he enjoyed going downhill on 
> "the bridge" -- evidently, the only hill in town -- on his 19mm tires 
> inflated to 150 psi.  "Rock hard," he said, and at 30 mph the bike vibrated 
> so much he said "it really felt fast!"
> 
> It is true you don't get the same super cushy ride benefit from lower tire 
> pressure with chunky, rigid-sidewall tires as you do with supple tires with 
> flexible sidewalls, but there's still a benefit to having your tires as the 
> proper pressure for your weight.  At just under 100kg I'm well over the 
> Clydesdale line and there are very few tires that I need to inflate to the 
> "max pressure".  And I'll bet you a chocolate milkshake I weigh a lot more 
> than you do.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!

Alright, I’m just catching up since I had an event that went late into last 
night. I have opened the proverbial can of worms here. I was supposed to say, 
“Please figure out this tire problem. Tell me what to get and how to make the 
black speckles stop.” and you were supposed to say, “1. Do this. And 2. Do 
that.” And then problem solved, right?! 

I might be more conflicted than when I started regarding tires, but I DID order 
the Kool Stop brakes and will have those installed. I’m pretty sure that will 
stop the black speckling issue. As for tires, I know some have been ok with the 
Kendas and like how they keep the bike from taking itself too seriously 
(looks-wise) but I am going to switch them out. The Clementine feels, even on 
flat land, a big sluggish. I rarely shifted on my Betz but I need to on the 
Clementine, like the bike is always in a gear that’s a little too hard. I want 
to see if better tires would help that. 

So, in light of that, do we think Schwalbe Big Bens in 50 will be the ticket?

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[RBW] Re: Looking for a Betty Foy (55cm or smaller)

2019-09-27 Thread Bill Lindsay

There's a 52cm black Yves Gomez in my stable.  It belongs to my wife, but 
she's been hinting at wanting an e-assist bike for grocery runs.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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> Anyone holding a 55cm or smaller Betty Foy?  Looking for my wife.  Thanks.
>

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[RBW] Looking for a Betty Foy (55cm or smaller)

Anyone holding a 55cm or smaller Betty Foy?  Looking for my wife.  Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread Steve Palincsar

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 4:59:25 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> Why does everyone love barely inflated tires? I put the max air in mine 
> and ride them rock hard! Otherwise they feel flat to me. I fly over bumps 
> and stay in the saddle and let my bones rattle! I’m doing it wrong, I 
> know...
>
>
I can give you one good reason (besides comfort) why you might not want to 
inflate wide tires to max pressure unless you've very heavy.  When you pump 
a wide tire up to high pressure it can become very bouncy with a 
considerable rebound on hard impacts, a bit like a basketball. That can, in 
some circumstances, snatch the handlebars right out of your hands.  It 
happened to me, and I crashed as a result, breaking my collar bone.  I'm 
not talking here about the biopace-like surging you might get at very low 
pressure, where you can feel the bike squishing the tires down on each 
pedal downstroke, but rather the SPROING bounce you get when you throw a 
basketball down onto the pavement.  

Your "bones rattling" comment reminds me of a time at Bike Virginia, back 
when they still had dinner put on by a community organization.  I was 
standing in line waiting for them to open, and couldn't help overhearing 
the guy in front of me discussing tire pressure with his friends.  He 
looked a bit like a football player - large, obviously over 250 lb.  He was 
from Virginia Beach, and was talking about how much he enjoyed going 
downhill on "the bridge" -- evidently, the only hill in town -- on his 19mm 
tires inflated to 150 psi.  "Rock hard," he said, and at 30 mph the bike 
vibrated so much he said "it *really* felt fast!"

It is true you don't get the same super cushy ride benefit from lower tire 
pressure with chunky, rigid-sidewall tires as you do with supple tires with 
flexible sidewalls, but there's still a benefit to having your tires as the 
proper pressure for your weight.  At just under 100kg I'm well over the 
Clydesdale line and there are very few tires that I need to inflate to the 
"max pressure".  And I'll bet you a chocolate milkshake I weigh a lot more 
than you do.

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[RBW] Re: FS: New Nitto threadless tig Bullmoose Bars

2019-09-27 Thread Paul M

Still for sale. No shipping cost to CA,OR,WA  Thanks.

On Friday, 27 September 2019 04:42:41 UTC-7, alan lavine wrote:
>
> I’ll take them! 
> Send details please. 
> Thanks 
> Alan nyc 

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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread masmojo

I have to agree with the above sentiment about tires. While some Compass tires 
would certainly ride much better; I kinda felt like putting super nice tires on 
went against the whole vibe of the bike. I have a Schwalbe on the back of mine, 
but it looks exactly like the Kendas.
For the same reason I resisted the urge to put fancy Nitto racks on mine and 
it's got chunky BMX grips

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[RBW] Roadeos with 32mm tires and fenders

2019-09-27 Thread Bill Lindsay

My Roadeo is a very early one. I’m running Stampede Pass ELs on HED 23mm rims 
(outside width). With that setup the tires are 32.2mm by my reckoning. 

I really like the clearances to the brake calipers with this setup without 
fenders. The smallest gap at any point to the brake caliper is about 6mm and 
that spot is in back. I don’t consider that gap to be sufficient to fit a 
fender through. If I ever run fenders on my Roadeo it will be with narrower 
tires. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca. 

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Painters in Eastern US

2019-09-27 Thread Brian Campbell

I had good luck with Bilenky in Philadelphia and I also had a good 
experience with Hanford Cycles, also in Philadelphia. There is Franklin 
frames in Ohio if that is closer and I know folks who have had work done 
there and been happy.

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>
> For those that have had frames painted in the Eastern US, can you 
> recommend a painter?  Anyone to stay away from?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
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[RBW] Offroad Mountain Clem-L’s

2019-09-27 Thread j.schwartz

Who has their Clem L set up as a true off-roader ?

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Re: [RBW] Roadeos with 32mm tires and fenders

2019-09-27 Thread Jock Dewey

I experimented with 35mm ELs under 45mm SKS on my RAM. Enough room to make 
me comfortable, but I prefer 32s and for this setup lots of room.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/48208222422/in/dateposted-public/

Jock Dewey / Athens, GA


On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 11:08:26 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Not a Roadeo, but a 2nd iteration Rambouillet: 35-labled/31-22-actual 
> Kojaks under SKS fenders, with sufficient air. Heck, I've done similar with 
> one of my road customs, which I am pretty sure has less clearance than the 
> Ram did.
>
> I *think* that the Roadeo has similar clearances, no?
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 3:07 PM John G. > 
> wrote:
>
>> RBWOBers,
>>
>> Have any of you Roadeo owners managed to install fenders AND 32mm tires? 
>> If so, what's the trick (aside from a tolerance for scant clearance)? 
>> Centerpull brakes? Skinny rims? Tires that aren't actually 32mm? 
>>
>> Post your advice, please!
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[RBW] FS: New Nitto threadless tig Bullmoose Bars

2019-09-27 Thread alan lavine

I’ll take them!
Send details please.
Thanks 
Alan nyc 

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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread Eric Daume

I sometimes still wake up at night in a cold sweat, after a nightmare about
being forced to ride Kenda Kwik Nines! :)

On Friday, September 27, 2019, Mark Roland  wrote:

> This ended up being my approach on my OC (Original Clem). I was
> planning to buy a set of Compass Switchbacks before my new bicycle even
> arrived, but like Jim, I soon got into the whole vibe, with the Bosco Bulls
> and the step-through and the fenders and back o bike bags, and the tires
> were just fine. They weren't "high performance" but they didn't decrease
> the fun in any way.
>
> On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 4:23:32 PM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> I didn't like the Kendas on my Clem Smith Jr at first either, but after
>> some consideration, I decided to just keep them until they wear out, or
>> until I have money burning a hole in my pocket, which is currently NOT the
>> case.
>>
>> They are slower and heavier than other tires, but I find that if I just
>> accept the slower speed it doesn't diminish my enjoyment of the bike.  I
>> don't use my Clem like a road bike, it's more relaxed than that.  I just
>> put out the same amount of effort that I would otherwise and whatever speed
>> I achieve, is whatever speed I achieve.  Yea I'm 3 or more MPH slower than
>> I am on my Rivendell Road Standard shod with Compass LoupLoup Pass tires,
>> but who cares.  Well I don't at any rate.
>>
>> Plus the Kendas have the added advantage of being very flat resistant.  I
>> don't even take a spare tube with me when I ride my Clem.  Granted, I don't
>> get more than 5 or 10 miles away from the house much on my Clem, but still,
>> it's somewhat liberating to feel that sort of confidence.
>>
>> *I do carry spare tubes most of the time, but the couple of times I
>> forgot to put my saddlebag back on, I just shrugged it off and kept riding.
>>
>> Jim
>> Austin, TX
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 10:16 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 2015 Clementine with the original Kenda tires. I have heard
>>> those aren’t nice tires and I’m starting to suspect the rumors are true.
>>> “Boggy” someone once said, and that makes sense to me.
>>>
>>> At any rate, something worse is happening. Every day I come home from
>>> the school commute and notice black speckles all over my legs, and more on
>>> my left leg than right. The dots are not like grease - they LOOK like
>>> grease but wipe off like dust. I took a video of this but think it might be
>>> weird to post leg videos. At any rate, I suspected the stuff was coming
>>> from the chain. Joe Bernard told me to get a chain cleaner and get at it,
>>> which I did, and now my chain is clean but I still have the problem.
>>> Roberta asked about my tires. Are they flaking off? They don’t appear to
>>> be, but I don’t know.
>>>
>>> Whatever the problem, doesn’t this seem like a good excuse to get new
>>> tires?
>>>
>>> I would love your input here. I want them to be the same fatness
>>> (there’s a technical term!) that I have now, because I LOVE them and
>>> because they fit with my fenders. I need puncture resistance. I have a
>>> healthy fear of flats and zero skills to fix them. I’m telling you I live
>>> dangerously. That is all!
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[RBW] Roadeos with 32mm tires and fenders

2019-09-27 Thread Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY

There's always the option of splitting the fender at the brake bridge, but you 
need to get creative with your hardware/riveter, and there's the  ugliness...
-Kai

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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 25 -Atlantic side of things

Very nice, thank you, Bob!

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 8:47:57 PM UTC-4, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
>
> Just posted more pics from last Saturday's Riv meetup:
>
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B25OMo9lm2k/
>
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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

This ended up being my approach on my OC (Original Clem). I was 
planning to buy a set of Compass Switchbacks before my new bicycle even 
arrived, but like Jim, I soon got into the whole vibe, with the Bosco Bulls 
and the step-through and the fenders and back o bike bags, and the tires 
were just fine. They weren't "high performance" but they didn't decrease 
the fun in any way.

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 4:23:32 PM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> I didn't like the Kendas on my Clem Smith Jr at first either, but after 
> some consideration, I decided to just keep them until they wear out, or 
> until I have money burning a hole in my pocket, which is currently NOT the 
> case.
>
> They are slower and heavier than other tires, but I find that if I just 
> accept the slower speed it doesn't diminish my enjoyment of the bike.  I 
> don't use my Clem like a road bike, it's more relaxed than that.  I just 
> put out the same amount of effort that I would otherwise and whatever speed 
> I achieve, is whatever speed I achieve.  Yea I'm 3 or more MPH slower than 
> I am on my Rivendell Road Standard shod with Compass LoupLoup Pass tires, 
> but who cares.  Well I don't at any rate.
>
> Plus the Kendas have the added advantage of being very flat resistant.  I 
> don't even take a spare tube with me when I ride my Clem.  Granted, I don't 
> get more than 5 or 10 miles away from the house much on my Clem, but still, 
> it's somewhat liberating to feel that sort of confidence.
>
> *I do carry spare tubes most of the time, but the couple of times I forgot 
> to put my saddlebag back on, I just shrugged it off and kept riding.
>
> Jim 
> Austin, TX
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 10:16 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>> I have a 2015 Clementine with the original Kenda tires. I have heard 
>> those aren’t nice tires and I’m starting to suspect the rumors are true. 
>> “Boggy” someone once said, and that makes sense to me. 
>>
>> At any rate, something worse is happening. Every day I come home from the 
>> school commute and notice black speckles all over my legs, and more on my 
>> left leg than right. The dots are not like grease - they LOOK like grease 
>> but wipe off like dust. I took a video of this but think it might be weird 
>> to post leg videos. At any rate, I suspected the stuff was coming from the 
>> chain. Joe Bernard told me to get a chain cleaner and get at it, which I 
>> did, and now my chain is clean but I still have the problem. Roberta asked 
>> about my tires. Are they flaking off? They don’t appear to be, but I don’t 
>> know.
>>
>> Whatever the problem, doesn’t this seem like a good excuse to get new 
>> tires? 
>>
>> I would love your input here. I want them to be the same fatness (there’s 
>> a technical term!) that I have now, because I LOVE them and because they 
>> fit with my fenders. I need puncture resistance. I have a healthy fear of 
>> flats and zero skills to fix them. I’m telling you I live dangerously. That 
>> is all! 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Roadeos with 32mm tires and fenders

2019-09-27 Thread ascpgh

Like Patrick, not a Roadeo, but a first iteration Rambouillet: Stampede 
Pass 32s (31 actual) under Honjo H-50 fenders. 

57mm max reach Shimano BR-600R calipers replaced with center mount Paul 
Racers to overcome closing of clearance around fenders when braking. 
Initial Honjo H-27 fenders (necessary to fit the calipers) were 
realistically too small for 32mm labled tires. Correct for 32mm tire H-50s 
were able to fit the tight rear end and be installed appropriately under 
the Paul calipers.

The Shimano caliper's asymmetric design caused the back arm (pivoted on 
center) to contact the rear fender under use, the front arm with its off 
center (outboard) pivot was fine. The Paul Racer dual pivot is symmetric 
and the arms' clearance of the fender/tire increases under use. A big fix 
in a small box.

Shimano BR-R650 

Paul Racer 

Rambouillet, H-27 Honjos, BR-R600 calipers 

Rambouillet, H-50 Honjos, Racer calipers 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 5:07:48 PM UTC-4, John G. wrote:
>
> RBWOBers,
>
> Have any of you Roadeo owners managed to install fenders AND 32mm tires? 
> If so, what's the trick (aside from a tolerance for scant clearance)? 
> Centerpull brakes? Skinny rims? Tires that aren't actually 32mm? 
>
> Post your advice, please!
>

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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread Joe Bernard

Party on Garth 

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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine