[RBW] OT: non-bike hobbies

[Drw]

How’d I miss the banjo recommendations. If not super musically inclined, like 
me, maybe check out a banjolele. It’s tiny and a mix of a banjo and ukulele. 
Sounds great and it’s Pretty easy to learn 4 or 5 songs, where more complex 
instruments have discouraged me. 

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[RBW] OT: non-bike hobbies

[Drw]

Feeling these feelings now too. 

Film photography with cheapish cameras has been happening recently. I’m not a 
photographer, but have an art degree, and it’s been nice doing something 
different and analog and easy these days. You can spend a lot of time looking 
at cameras (see my recent post), spend very little and come away with fun stuff.

Also, potentially not financially feasible, we bought some property out in the 
country, before kids, that needed/needs a lot of work. Much of my time is 
dedicated to simple (painting a room. Cutting 10 acres of brush every year) to 
complicated (replacing a well. Rebuilding a barn) jobs. The work has been 
infinitely rewarding and relatively cheap, since it’s just me slowly plodding 
along at it every few weekends. 

I’d love to say reading, but that’s the hobby I maybe want to do the most and 
get to do the least. It’s such an easy target for distraction...or maybe I 
don’t try hard enough

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[RBW] Re: OT: non-bike hobbies

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Things I love outside of biking that include my bear cubs:

1. I read them books, and have done since they were babes. Even at 13 and 10, 
they love it. We’ve been all over the world and to other worlds, too. We’ve 
crawled into the wardrobe to have tea with a faun, and met a terrifying and 
good lion who gave us the kingdom. We have graduated wizarding school and made 
the best friends we could have ever dreamed up, learned to stand for Good when 
no one else would and defeated our mortal enemy in a final act of selflessness. 
We have avoided capture from man-eating trolls and, in a reversal of fortune, 
left them as stone statues, so there! Most recently, we fought our way out of 
an arena to start a revolution and overthrow a cruel and oppressive government. 
We have made foods we learned about in these books, and we have talked at 
length about what the stories were trying to teach us. Take them to the library 
- tons of free programs. Go to Barnes and Noble story time and let them choose 
a book to buy. Bonus points if you let them have their very own library card 
and book bag.

2. Adult coloring for you, regular coloring for them. When they were little, 
we’d sit together with hot chocolate and music and talk about all the things 
little people want to know while we filled in black and white spaces with 
color. I love anything by Johanna Basford, a young Scottish darling who kicked 
off the adult coloring craze with her first book, Secret Garden. Bonus points 
if you splurge on the Sakura gel pens with glitter ink.

3. Cooking. It is a universal fact that kids love to help in kitchens. We got 
aprons and chef’s hats and a Harry Potter recipe book and went nuts. Bonus 
points if they help with dinner prep and learn about what nutrients specific 
foods offer and how they help the body!

4. “Adventuring.” This is done mostly by bike nowadays, because it’s faster and 
they like fast. But we would go out for nature walks and they would crawl over 
rocks and make forts and and look for creatures. We would do a “park tour” in 
our California days, where I would stuff them in the bike trailer and we would 
hit one park after another via bike on the paseos until we made our way home. 
Bonus points if you bring a picnic lunch. Double bonus points if you bring 
their stuffed animals and set them up at your picnic.

5. Movie night. In our CA days, we lived in a tight neighborhood. I was best 
friends with 3 families who had kids the same ages. One couple would host movie 
and popcorn night at their house while the rest of the couples had a date. 
Could be dinner, could be an ice cream or a walk at the pretty outdoor mall. 
Bonus points if your friends are from elsewhere - all our friends were from 
India and taught my kids their mother-tongues while our kids were in their 
homes.

6. NATIONAL PARKS! These are the gems of our United States and nearly everyone 
lives by one! (State parks are grand, too.) They are affordable and memorable 
and good for the mind, body and soul. One year we just hit every national park 
in driving distance and had a ball. Bonus points if you sing songs on the drive.

I wish you minivans and road trips and chapter books and good food made with 
tiny people in tiny aprons. Bonus points if you report back here with photos 
and stories.

Leah

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[RBW] WTB: 40tooth chainring guard

['Justin August' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Anyone have one of these : 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/silver-chainring-guard
Who wants to get rid of it?

Private message me. 

-J

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Re: [RBW] Re: Huge Rosco Mixte

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

I haven’t transitioned to a rear child seat yet and still have some use left in 
our Yepp mini front.  I also don’t own a huge Rosco mixte (somewhat 
regrettably... I chose a 65cm Clem H instead for a few reasons but kind of wish 
I had both, though they sold so quickly I’d have missed out anyway.) 

But having recently pulled out the Clem H for fall riding I just tried to mount 
a pletscher twin leg only to find two issues:

It does not clear a 29x2.2 (continental mountain king) and the thickness of the 
kickstand plate did it allow the base of the double kickstand to sit flush.

So the pletscher went back on the bike it started with and the stock single leg 
went back on the Clem and all is well.

Assuming you have similar clearances on the Rosco it’ll likely depend in tire 
size which stand you’ll need.  I know the incoming Gus Boots-Willsen 
compensates for tire clearance with an offset bolt hole in the kickstand plate 
but I’ve just learned the limitations of the pletscher twin legger and will 
keep it on bikes with sub 2” rubber.

Best,
Brian Cole
Lawrenceville NJ

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Rivelo Film Ride

[Philip Williamson]

That looks like a great ride and stellar destinations!
Very inspiring. I have some film to develop myself...

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA 


On Sunday, October 6, 2019 at 11:54:27 PM UTC-7, Emily Guise wrote:
>
> Hi folks, this report is not for a recent ride but I got the photos 
> developed so thought I'd share. Rivelo  (the 
> PNW's only Rivendell-only dealer!) had a film camera-themed ride a few 
> months back in Portland, with Roman and Will in attendance. We rode out 
> from Rivelo in SE, up the Eastbank Esplanade along the Willamette River, 
> and stopped at Golden Pliers , a wonderful 
> bike shop/cafe in North Portland. We lingered for a beer, snack, and 
> film/bike talk, and then rode to the beautiful Cathedral Park and then up 
> to Blue Moon Camera  in St. Johns to check 
> out their store. I'm new to film photography, but wow, Blue Moon seems to 
> have everything you could ever want for cameras, and they were super nice, 
> even though we packed the store. It was a great ride and I met so many nice 
> folks! Many thanks to John and Darby for organizing! 
>
> All the photos taken on a 1980s Canon AE-1. 
>
> Emily
>
> [image: Rivelo ride 1.JPG]  
>
> [image: Rivelo ride 3.JPG] 
>
>>
>
>
> [image: Rivelo ride 6.JPG][image: Rivelo ride 7.JPG][image: Rivelo ride 
> 8.JPG] 
>

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[RBW] Re: OT: non-bike hobbies

[Philip Williamson]

When the kid was younger, we did kung fu as a family. I liked that pretty 
well, but I haven't kept up the practice since moving back to California. 
I do a lot of art. Drawing, watercolors. Oil painting when I take a class 
every few years. Drawing is cheap, even if you get the nicest supplies (get 
the nicest supplies). "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain," a pencil, a 
black pen, and a decent pad can give you that effort/reward of riding 
bikes. 
Photography. I got back into film cameras, when I inherited a bunch from my 
dad. I kept and repaired the most appealing ones, a Leica screwmount, a 
Graflex 34 (converted to 44), and an Exakta with a couple nice lenses which 
I haven't used yet. 
Before that I shot a lot with a Sony Nex, cheap adapters and vintage or 
cheap lenses. That was very enjoyable, and you could get into that for a 
couple hundred dollars. 
Gardening. I have speakers in the yard, and for the last couple of years 
I'd spend Saturday morning listening to one of Mike Varley's KWMR shows 
from that week, sit down with coffee and look around. Pretty soon I'd 
think, "Oh, I could deadhead those roses," or "that tree limb is bugging 
me," or "I bet that irrigation system isn't *totally* shot." 
Reading. I get books from the library, or use the 'Libby' app to read on 
the phone or iPad. I read "Dataclysm," "Outliers," and a couple of Richard 
K Morgan books with Libby so far. 

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA



On Sunday, October 6, 2019 at 8:19:14 PM UTC-7, dstein wrote:
>
> I feel like this has come up before but could only find a thread from 
> 2010: what are your non-bike hobbies? Particularly anyone with young kids 
> that suck up all your other time or involve them. I haven't been riding 
> since an accident earlier this year. My wife says I need a hobby. I don't 
> disagree. Bonus points if it's thrifty, because damn I've spent a lot of 
> money at Rivendell over the years.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: non-bike hobbies

[Birdman]

I’ve been playing old-time banjo styles for about 18 years and feel fortunate 
to be married to a terrific fiddler. It’s great fun and the old-time community 
reminds me a lot of the Rivendell and bike camping communities: lots of good 
folk. Clawhammer banjo is a great instrument to learn to play as an adult. The 
playing technique is relatively simple; in my opinion, it’s about 10% technique 
and 90% taste.

More recently, I’ve been shooting black and white film photography on a fully 
manual camera using sunny sixteen. The beauty in simplicity is similar to 
riding my Quickbeam.

Isaac in Portland, OR

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[RBW] Re: Homer Holden question

[ted]

I believe that toyo built AHHs have a third set of bottle mounts on the bottom 
on the down tube, and others don’t.

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: non-bike hobbies

[Birdman]

I’ve been playing old-time banjo styles for about 18 years and feel fortunate 
to be married to a terrific fiddler. It’s great fun and the old-time community 
reminds me a lot of the Rivendell and bike camping communities: lots of good 
folk. Clawhammer banjo is a great instrument to learn to play as an adult. The 
playing technique is relatively simple; in fact, it’s about 10% technique and 
90% taste IMO. 

More recently, I’ve been shooting black and white film photography on a fully 
manual camera using sunny sixteen. The beauty in simplicity is similar to 
riding my Quickbeam.

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: non-bike hobbies

[Toshi Takeuchi]

My orchestra played with a bluegrass band at my last concert.  It was great
fun.  I also play mandolin ok, since the fingering is the same as the
violin, but  I just can't pick very quickly.  Getting the family to play
together is really priceless.

Toshi


On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 3:08 PM Curtis McKenzie  wrote:

> Toshi,
>
> Surely you are not discounting banjo music.  Toss in a fiddle and a good
> time will be had.  Grin.  I started well into my fifties.  Really enjoying
> the first instrument I am learning.
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Curtis
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 2:58 PM Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>
>> Music hasn't been mentioned (much if at all).  It's never too late to
>> learn to play an instrument (I know violinists who learned after age 60 and
>> are playing in orchestras now).  I'm a serviceable violinist, but am
>> teaching myself to play piano.  If I have a keyboard and Bach music, I
>> could survive happy for the rest of my life.
>>
>> Toshi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 2:50 PM 'Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My other hobby is collecting antique vending machines, most (but not
>>> all) of them designed to sell gum, candy, or peanuts.  They're much smaller
>>> than bikes so I can have more, but---unlike bikes---they're completely
>>> useless for anything other than looking at.  I *do* like to do that,
>>> though.
>>>
>>> http://www.smallvintagevending.com
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Homer Holden question

[Andy C.]

I have a first generation (2006) Waterford Homer (the poem era). I believe 
that a characteristic of these first Homers is the lack of a kickstand 
plate. I'm not sure exactly when the plate was added, but it was soon 
thereafter. I hope I'm not wrong.

--Andy C.

On Monday, October 7, 2019 at 2:47:42 PM UTC-7, Abcyclehank wrote:
>
> Anyone know how to identify Toyo vs Waterford Homers.  I have two second 
> hand single top tube versions. Not that it matters at all to me personally 
> but the question has been asked of me regarding selling.  Serial number? 
> Lugs? Pump pegs? Anything?
>
> Thanks,
> Ryan Hankinson
> West Michigan
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: non-bike hobbies

[rpeters . vetpath]

Putting in another good word for banjo music! Especially if your significant 
other is a fiddler or mandolin player...sounds better outside on the porch. I 
fiddle and bought my husband a banjo—then my kids each got a keyboard and a 
stand up bass in short order. Of their own free will I might add. 

Cooking is both hobby and survival for me: current obsessions are making 
pickles and hot sauce. Baking causes more waistline casualties so although I 
love tea cakes and biscuits, I’m not training for anything that’d justify those 
calories...yet. :) The kids have helped with pickling (no canning tho)- great 
fun to have chopping help.

I’m thinking of tabulating and making a Venn diagram of these hobbies of Riv 
owners-i get the feeling there’s a lot of commonalities!

Happy exploring!
Rachel 
Arlington MA

> On Oct 7, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Curtis McKenzie  wrote:
> 
> Toshi,
> 
> Surely you are not discounting banjo music.  Toss in a fiddle and a good time 
> will be had.  Grin.  I started well into my fifties.  Really enjoying the 
> first instrument I am learning.
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> Curtis
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 2:58 PM Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>> Music hasn't been mentioned (much if at all).  It's never too late to learn 
>> to play an instrument (I know violinists who learned after age 60 and are 
>> playing in orchestras now).  I'm a serviceable violinist, but am teaching 
>> myself to play piano.  If I have a keyboard and Bach music, I could survive 
>> happy for the rest of my life.
>> 
>> Toshi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 2:50 PM 'Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>>  wrote:
>>> My other hobby is collecting antique vending machines, most (but not all) 
>>> of them designed to sell gum, candy, or peanuts.  They're much smaller than 
>>> bikes so I can have more, but---unlike bikes---they're completely useless 
>>> for anything other than looking at.  I do like to do that, though.  
>>> 
>>> http://www.smallvintagevending.com
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> 
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[RBW] Re: OT: non-bike hobbies

[Clayton.sf]

On Sunday, October 6, 2019 at 8:19:14 PM UTC-7, dstein wrote:
>
> I feel like this has come up before but could only find a thread from 
> 2010: what are your non-bike hobbies? Particularly anyone with young kids 
> that suck up all your other time or involve them. I haven't been riding 
> since an accident earlier this year. My wife says I need a hobby. I don't 
> disagree. Bonus points if it's thrifty, because damn I've spent a lot of 
> money at Rivendell over the years.
>

Lifting weights. Last year I put a power rack into my garage, bought a 
barbell and some weights and have been having a blast with it. Equipment 
can be found used relatively cheap but the investment in your health is 
huge. Happy to provide more info if interested.

Clayton Scott
HBGCA

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: non-bike hobbies

[Curtis McKenzie]

Toshi,

Surely you are not discounting banjo music.  Toss in a fiddle and a good
time will be had.  Grin.  I started well into my fifties.  Really enjoying
the first instrument I am learning.

Enjoy,

Curtis



On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 2:58 PM Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:

> Music hasn't been mentioned (much if at all).  It's never too late to
> learn to play an instrument (I know violinists who learned after age 60 and
> are playing in orchestras now).  I'm a serviceable violinist, but am
> teaching myself to play piano.  If I have a keyboard and Bach music, I
> could survive happy for the rest of my life.
>
> Toshi
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 2:50 PM 'Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> My other hobby is collecting antique vending machines, most (but not all)
>> of them designed to sell gum, candy, or peanuts.  They're much smaller than
>> bikes so I can have more, but---unlike bikes---they're completely useless
>> for anything other than looking at.  I *do* like to do that, though.
>>
>> http://www.smallvintagevending.com
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: non-bike hobbies

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Music hasn't been mentioned (much if at all).  It's never too late to learn
to play an instrument (I know violinists who learned after age 60 and are
playing in orchestras now).  I'm a serviceable violinist, but am teaching
myself to play piano.  If I have a keyboard and Bach music, I could survive
happy for the rest of my life.

Toshi




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> My other hobby is collecting antique vending machines, most (but not all)
> of them designed to sell gum, candy, or peanuts.  They're much smaller than
> bikes so I can have more, but---unlike bikes---they're completely useless
> for anything other than looking at.  I *do* like to do that, though.
>
> http://www.smallvintagevending.com
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[RBW] Re: OT: non-bike hobbies

['Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch]

My other hobby is collecting antique vending machines, most (but not all) 
of them designed to sell gum, candy, or peanuts.  They're much smaller than 
bikes so I can have more, but---unlike bikes---they're completely useless 
for anything other than looking at.  I *do* like to do that, though.  

http://www.smallvintagevending.com

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[RBW] Re: Homer Holden question

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Anyone know how to identify Toyo vs Waterford Homers.  I have two second hand 
single top tube versions. Not that it matters at all to me personally but the 
question has been asked of me regarding selling.  Serial number? Lugs? Pump 
pegs? Anything?

Thanks,
Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil

[John McBurney]

Garth

It’s not a bad idea. I do get more joy from giving things away than the
cash brings. In the past few months I’ve given my Scott Sub 10 belt drive
bike to a young couple and that makes me very happy.

However in this instance I need to raise some money to fund another bike
project without pissing my wife of 40 years off too much. I did offer it at
roughly half of what it has been valued here to a local friend but he was
unable to take advantage of the opportunity In this instance the joy will
come not from maximizing profit but rather in the knowledge that someone
who really loves these bikes will be able to enjoy it.

It truly is special and I know someone will be very happy with it.

John

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 2:01 PM Garth  wrote:

>
>
>   John, although the bike doesn't fit you, it doesn't sound like you
> really want to sell it, or at least go through "the process" of sale and
> all that may include.  Who says you have to sell it and for what cost , and
> what makes them some sort of authority over your own sense ?   Hell, you
> can do anything you want with it, sell it or give it away.  I've had many
> things that I once enjoyed, or thought I did, that I have even given away
> to people who had use for them.  Seeing or hearing the joy of someone using
> those "things" is priceless.  I'm not telling you to do anything or not,
> you already know exactly what that is.
>
>   Really it's not going to make any difference regardless of what you do
> with the bike.
>
>
> On Sunday, October 6, 2019 at 8:54:00 PM UTC-4, John McBurney wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I’m considering sellingBombadil. What do you think a reasonable price
>> would be?  It’s a Waterford frame, Joe Bell paint. Nitto, Sun XCD, SON,
>> Bush and Mueller,  Honjo, Brooks, Compass. Nicer than any 10 year old bike
>> has a right to be.
>>
>> It’s just too short for me and I’m not riding it.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Bombadil

[Garth]

  
 You're welcome for missing the point. 
 

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> Dearest Garth, the OP came here in search of a possible price to ask for a 
> bike he wants to sell. He's not giving it away. Thank you. 

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Re: [RBW] OT: non-bike hobbies

[Eric Floden]

I have a number of activities but will mention one that has tied in with
riding in the past. I became a radio fan and DXer in my teens and have
retained an interest through today. My interest in mostly AM/MW, and
shortwave. I have carried a small portable on my rides, either overnights,
or up great hills. Currently use a Sony ICF-SW7600GR.

When I was a baseball fan, I would take a portable up one of the local
mountains and listen to a game from a Washington state broadcaster. (In the
90s, much of the post-season was not available in the Vancouver market.)

When in eastern Ontario at the cottage, I have pedaled up to a high point
(Foymount) and listened at sunset for interesting signals.

FM and TV DX is a thing, but has not interested me. Yet.

More info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DXing

I have been a member of the Ontario DX Association, the IRCA, and NRC, and
found membership helpful and rewarding.

EricF
Big 10-4
Vancouver BC

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: non-bike hobbies

[Patrick Moore]

I hope you are able to get back on the bike before too long.

Me, if I couldn't ride, I'd walk, with or without dog, with kids if mine
was still at home. Of course, this is much easier if you live up against
good walking spaces, as I do. But walking involves nothing more than a good
pair of shoes and socks and perhaps a baby jogger. (Tho' I sometimes carry
my slingshot and a pocketful of gravel in cold weather when the coyotes
gather to skulk in my neighborhood; this to protect the dog, not me.)

Reading history via Kindle loans from the local public library system.
Literature; there's a whole world out there that I read as a boy and very
young man.

YouTube, old bbc mysteries; sorry, I've not watched broadcast TV for 15
years, and never watched cable, but American mystery series aren't as well
done. Rumpole, Morse, Gently, Holmes (Brett), Poirot (Suchet), Foyle's War,
PD James, Ian Rankin (I think they did some of his), etc etc etc. Actually,
the American TV series Nero Wolfe is very good too.

I need to re read Shakespeare. Junk reading has dulled my reading sense,
and I find it difficult to read what I read with delight in my adolescence
and youth, but I've long noticed that the satisfaction derived is far
greater -- more real. Which is not surprising, since S was truly a genius
in character and plot, while even, say, Patrick Aubry, or for that matter
Trollop or Austen are not.

Willa Cather is decent and free. I read a lot of children's classics too
(The Secret Garden, Narnia).

Military history, again you tube.

Some library systems have checkout streaming video collections. Ours hasn't
much, yet.

I manage to get a lot of what I want for free; video on Youtube, many, many
classics free from Kindle, or perhaps for $0.99 or $1.99.

Philophy and theology. I tried Augustine but as a professional rhetorician
I find his elaborate style trying; we modern's haven't the language skills
or appreciation of our ancestors. Plato; he's not ornate. Back to history:
just "picked up" in Kindle Caesar De Bello Gallo and Thucydides on the
Peloponnesian war (in English). Plutarch. *De Divinibus Nominibus* with
Aquinas's commetary (kidding as a suggestion, but the 2 books have been
sitting on my "read next" shelf fro 3 years.)

Building stuff for the house.

Reading the bible in vulgate Latin (trying).

Not me, I hate working on cars, but I know people who have found great
satisfaction in restoring old cars; just mainstream iron, nothing expensive.

If I had more time, boxing or fencing. Sailing too in a small boat if I
didn't live in a desert.

Chopping wood -- if I had a woodpile; but I loved it as a boy.

Gardening. I don't like it, but I don't try. If I had to fill time, I'd
once again try a vegetable patch.

Woodworking: I don't do it, by my father liked it very much.

Etc etc etc!

Let us know what you try.

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[RBW] Re: OT: non-bike hobbies

[LBleriot]

I turned to photography during my riding downturns.  Kids make for ready 
models and the technology scratched the itch to fiddle with something 
mechanical.  Landscape photography got me out and moving again.  When you 
heal, you can combine both hobbies by riding to shoots.

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>
> I feel like this has come up before but could only find a thread from 
> 2010: what are your non-bike hobbies? Particularly anyone with young kids 
> that suck up all your other time or involve them. I haven't been riding 
> since an accident earlier this year. My wife says I need a hobby. I don't 
> disagree. Bonus points if it's thrifty, because damn I've spent a lot of 
> money at Rivendell over the years.
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Re: [RBW] Bombadil

[Joe Bernard]

Dearest Garth, the OP came here in search of a possible price to ask for a bike 
he wants to sell. He's not giving it away. Thank you. 

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[RBW] FS: Snow Peak Ti French Press

[Ginz]

Snowpeak Titantium French Press.  

Used on maybe three overnight trips.  Clean except for a tiny bit of coffee 
oil and the typical discoloration from an alcohol stove.  No dents or like 
that.  You'll be happy with it.  I'm going back to a drip cone.

Figure $36 shipped.  It's Ti, so shipping should be cheap, right??

Thanks,
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Re: [RBW] Bombadil

[John McBurney]

Thank you

John

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:52 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> I’d ballpark the frame fork headset and bars at like $1600. To replicate
> the build you buyer would need to budget around $4500 but most buyers
> prefer to do their own thing. If you insist on selling it complete you’ll
> be in the $2600 to $3000 range I suspect.
>
> If it were me I would sell bags and racks separately to maximize my
> return.
>
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> El Cerrito Ca
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[RBW] Re: Bombadil

[Nick Ybarra]

I'd answer, but I kind of want to buy it, so I feel like that presents a 
conflict of interest.

-Nick in ATX

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>
> Hi all,
>
> I’m considering sellingBombadil. What do you think a reasonable price 
> would be?  It’s a Waterford frame, Joe Bell paint. Nitto, Sun XCD, SON, 
> Bush and Mueller,  Honjo, Brooks, Compass. Nicer than any 10 year old bike 
> has a right to be. 
>
> It’s just too short for me and I’m not riding it. 
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil

[Patrick Moore]

The OP isn't riding it because it's too small, and he wants to sell it but
isn't sure how much to ask; obviously, he wants to get a good price for it.
Answering his question will sure as hell will make a different to his
wallet! And, just possibly, increase his options for a replacement, no
small thing.

As to an answer to the OP's question, I can't say since I've not really
paid attention to the Bombadil as I have to, say, the Ram and the Sam. But
I will emphasize the truth of what others have pointed out, that purchase
options can increase your liklihood of sale; and also, that demand
fluctuates: you may have no takers for a quarter, and then find that next
quarter you get half a dozen inquiries, and sometimes patience can maximize
your return.

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> ...
>
>   Really it's not going to make any difference regardless of what you do
> with the bike.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil

[Garth]

  John, although the bike doesn't fit you, it doesn't sound like you really 
want to sell it, or at least go through "the process" of sale and all that 
may include.  Who says you have to sell it and for what cost , and what 
makes them some sort of authority over your own sense ?   Hell, you can do 
anything you want with it, sell it or give it away.  I've had many things 
that I once enjoyed, or thought I did, that I have even given away to 
people who had use for them.  Seeing or hearing the joy of someone using 
those "things" is priceless.  I'm not telling you to do anything or not, 
you already know exactly what that is. 

  Really it's not going to make any difference regardless of what you do 
with the bike. 


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> Hi all,
>
> I’m considering sellingBombadil. What do you think a reasonable price 
> would be?  It’s a Waterford frame, Joe Bell paint. Nitto, Sun XCD, SON, 
> Bush and Mueller,  Honjo, Brooks, Compass. Nicer than any 10 year old bike 
> has a right to be. 
>
> It’s just too short for me and I’m not riding it. 
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Bombadil

[Bill Lindsay]

I’d ballpark the frame fork headset and bars at like $1600. To replicate the 
build you buyer would need to budget around $4500 but most buyers prefer to do 
their own thing. If you insist on selling it complete you’ll be in the $2600 to 
$3000 range I suspect. 

If it were me I would sell bags and racks separately to maximize my return. 

Bill Lindsay 
El Cerrito Ca

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Re: [RBW] Bombadil 52 cm near mint

[Joe Bernard]

So no one has any idea what this should go for? I know *I* don't, and I 
consider myself sorta expertly at Riv values 路

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[RBW] Re: Homer Holden question

[MCT]

It is a mixed bag as there are exceptions to what sizes have a double top 
tube.   I have a 65cm A. Homer Hilsen (MUSA) that is a single top tube.  I 
did not request a single top tube, as I purhcased it from Rivendell after 
it was built.  The bike may be a little big for me, but the secondary 
market for steel bike with rim brakes has taken a dive, so not selling 
right now. 

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[RBW] Re: Homer Holden question

[Tom Norton]

Julian, 
For me it is an appearance thing! The doy top tube just doesn't do anything for 
me.

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[RBW] F.S. Choco Moose Bars nitto, rims, grand bois 650B Tires etc....

[Dylan A]

Hi, Choco moose bars sold.  

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[RBW] FS: Paul Neo Retros, RRB Jammer Bag

[Conway Bennett]

I'm trying to clear out anything of value that is taking up space.  So, I have 
a set of silver Paul Neo Retros with matching  moon units and paul straddle 
cable and front rack adapter AND fancy, short Nitto rear cable stop.  No brake 
pads.  $225 net to me shipped CONUS.  

I also have a road runner jammer bag in rust that is in great used condition.  
I switched to the jumbo jammer and eliminated front racks.  $100 net to me 
shipped CONUS.

Thanks for clearing out the clutter and helping fund child care.


Fair winds,

Captain Conway
Chicago

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[RBW] Re: OT: non-bike hobbies

[ascpgh]

My wife and I have this habit of acquiring residential structures to 
renovate, not to flip. Currently rebuilding a three story brick single 
family structure from 1885. Tooling, materials and licensed trades make 
bikes seem paltry in comparison. 

We are involved on a couple of other fronts too. We help a young college 
student who's beyond her family's ability to aid or contribute. Read 
Educated by Tara Westover and you'll appreciate how global this 
mentorship is. We also are very involved in a family in our neighborhood 
whom we met while the mom was in med school with three babies at home and a 
husband with the lifelong effects of a TBI. We offer the functional other 
parent often in support of all three of their childhood pursuits and daily 
challenges of family life (boiler quits on 20 degree night) their mom isn't 
able to schedule, attend or do herself. 

Leisure application of life skills for others? I guess so. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

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> I feel like this has come up before but could only find a thread from 
> 2010: what are your non-bike hobbies? Particularly anyone with young kids 
> that suck up all your other time or involve them. I haven't been riding 
> since an accident earlier this year. My wife says I need a hobby. I don't 
> disagree. Bonus points if it's thrifty, because damn I've spent a lot of 
> money at Rivendell over the years.
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[RBW] OT: non-bike hobbies

[Matt C.]

I'm going to answer your question a bit differently because I've been going 
through something similar. 

I have two kids (3 and 1 years old). Instead of hobbies I do myself, I have 
been curbing my hobbies to involve them. 

Here are a few things I've done:
Wrenching on bikes in my little workshop is something they both love to do with 
me. Though I never expect to get much accomplished. But they just grab a wrench 
and try to figure stuff out. It's pretty fun to watch. 

About a year ago we bought a house nearby water, so we have started fishing 
together which was something I didn't really do before. 

I've also had to take a hiatus from doing lots of backpacking trips and turn 
that energy towards being a car camping family. These things all have their own 
rewards in different ways. 

Also, I frequent swap meets in the area when they come about, and I've started 
taking the whole family instead of going by myself. My 3 year old loves them.

Also, slightly off topic, I would say 95% of my riding lately is just commuting 
to work and back. But my wonderful wife gave me a pass last night to go out for 
a ride. I rode a local hiking trail on my Bridgestone MB-2 and was gone for 
about one hour. Less than 5 miles total. I was amazed how much fun can be had 
even on short rides. So maybe that is something you guys could work out. Best 
of luck! 

Matt Cook in CT 

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[RBW] OT: non-bike hobbies

[Ian A]

If running is a possibility, I'd recommend it. A daily half hour run can be a 
really rewarding hobby. Apart from running shoes, no costly gear needed. A run 
just before bed can be a great time to get time to yourself.

IanA

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[RBW] Re: Homer Holden question

[Julian Westerhout]

Ryan is correct -- although most of the larger sizes of the Toyo and 
Waterford Homers came with two top tubes, exceptions exist. I believe all 
of the larger (61.5, 64 cm) MIT Homers have the swooping second top tube -- 
although if the current generation is your goal a call to Riv would resolve 
any questions. 

FWIW, I have a 67 cm single top tube Waterford-made Homer. 

Tom, why do you ask? Are you pro or anti- two-tubers? How big are you? What 
sort of riding will you do? 

Julian Westerhout 
Bloomington, IL 




On Sunday, October 6, 2019 at 8:55:45 PM UTC-5, Abcyclehank wrote:
>
> It varies.  I have both a 65cm and 69cm single top tube Homer Hilsen.  But 
> the general rule is the 67, 69, and 71’s had double top tubes for sure.   
>
> Ryan Hankinson 
> West Michigan

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Re: [RBW] Bombadil 52 cm near mint

[John McBurney]

The TT is 22” center to Center

John

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 4:12 AM Garth  wrote:

>   Joe, the Bombadil frame specs are still included in the current Riv geo
> charts, at the bottom in gray.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 6, 2019 at 11:19:05 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Hey John, what's the toptube length? I know my Rivs pretty well, but I
>> confess I haven't a clue about Bombadil sizing.
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[RBW] Re: Silver Comet Trail Extension

[Fullylugged]

Riders from Huntsville and Montgomery will start in Anniston on 10/19 at 9:00 
AM. Some will do te 30 miles to the state line and turn around for 60, others 
will go to Coots Lake Rd (near Rockmart) for a 200K. I'll be on a Riv.  Not 
sure which one just yet.  Shout out if you're in the area!

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Re: [RBW] OT: non-bike hobbies

[Fullylugged]

Like Addison, I also collect and restore fountain pens.  I moderate 2 FB 
groups, Fountain Pen Collecting and Fountain Pen Collecting Buy-Sell-Trade. I 
currently have a Parker 51 vacumatic set, a Parker Duofold butoon filler, a 
Sheaffer Crest lever filler and a Sheaffer Sovereign rod vac filler set to 
restore for friends.  Good bad weather day stuff.

Bruce

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[RBW] Re: Homer Holden question

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Looking at the May 2017 Geometry chart, for Toyo and Waterford built AHH 
frames:
Optional on 61 and 63
Standard for 65, 67, 69 & 72

The 2018 chart shows that the Made in Taiwan frames only come with the 
double top tube in the largest which is listed as 62 cm.

David Lipsky 
Berkeley, CA


On Sunday, October 6, 2019 at 6:46:43 PM UTC-7, Tom Norton wrote:
>
> What size frames have the secondary top tube? 
> 

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Re: [RBW] Bombadil 52 cm near mint

[Garth]

  Joe, the Bombadil frame specs are still included in the current Riv geo 
charts, at the bottom in gray. 



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> Hey John, what's the toptube length? I know my Rivs pretty well, but I 
> confess I haven't a clue about Bombadil sizing. 

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