[RBW] Re: Winter's Troubadour Vanguard

[Andrew Turner]

Is Beorn taking a sabbatical this winter season? Beautiful pictures as 
always:) 

On Friday, November 22, 2019 at 2:50:14 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> In which Indian summer ends with winter's fleeting troubadour vanguard one 
> day, and six inches of snow the next.
> https://deaconpatrick.org/winters-troubadour-vanguard
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Re: Patch makers

[J Imler]

Thank you all for the recommendations. I appreciate the direction.

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[RBW] WTB: Riv Carbonomas Fork

[Dave Grossman]

I recently acquired a Carbonomas Fork from Ryan and now, after seeing mine, a 
friend also would like to find one.  If you have one, let me know and I'll put 
you into touch with him.

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[RBW] Happy Retirement Bob!

[Joe Bernard]

How did I get old enough to see Pineapple Bob (Bridgestone catalogue cover 
model) retire?? Enjoy, Bob! ‍♂️

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[RBW] Re: Looking for a Betty Foy (55cm or smaller)

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Paul,

Congrats!  To both you and your lucky wife.  Plus makes 2020 your year to 
pursue the next Rivendell!  Happy hunting!

Sincerely,
Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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Re: [RBW] Re: New vs. old Homer geometry, ride characteristics

[Luis Garcia]

Thank you Bill for the welcome!  I posted photos of my Homer with details in 
this thread.  Looking forward to participating on this list!


Luis

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[RBW] Re: Looking for a Betty Foy (55cm or smaller)

[PaulS]

Thanks to a kind member here, I was able to get a Betty for the wife.  Bike 
is absolutely beautiful!  Glad I didn't have to "modify" a Cheviot.  Well, 
my Xmas shopping is done.

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[RBW] Happy Retirement Bob!

[Bill Lindsay]

I noticed on Riv Instagram they showed a video announcing that Bob (the 
artist formerly known as Pineapple Bob) is retiring.  Congrats, Bob!  
Thanks for everything, tailwinds, etc.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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Re: [RBW] Let me introduce my new friend, Sam, properly

[Jason Fuller]

You are correct, I had not seen them, and thank you for sharing!  I love 
them both. I'm a big fan of 26" wheels, partly because of how nimble they 
feel, and partly because I hate toe overlap and headtubes shorter than 
~135mm.  

The XO size I have is a 52 seat tube, 55 top tube. It fits great but since 
I like the flats on my drops to be around parallel if not a smidge higher 
than my saddle, I would do better with a taller frame if I wanted the level 
top tube. 

I still think the "fistful of seatpost" and level, high top tube approach 
has its place for flex characteristics, but it's not ideal for fit or 
standover to be sure

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Re: [RBW] Let me introduce my new friend, Sam, properly

[Patrick Moore]

Now, that is very nice! Thanks for the photo.

I'd guess that yours, like mine, is a 55?

Your chainrings are far bigger than any I installed. But I did hit 48 mph
chasing and matching pace with a Range Rover at the bottom of a steep, 1/2
mile hill in 98 gear inch top gear (48 X 12 X 24.5"). (Back when I was a
sprightly 40-something.)

In fall 1994, I called Riv and asked Grant to make me a road bike that rode
"at least as well" as that '92 XO-1. He said, "Oh, it'll be a lot better."
And it was; Waterford, built around the contemporary AllRounder model, but
with road tubing and lugs. 73* parallel, 42.5 cm stays, *tout *753 except
for 531 fork; 54 c-c IIRC -- after I'd built it and ridden it and liked it,
I told Grant, "I'm going to let others know about his!" He said, "Don't you
dare!" -- because he was emphasizing "fistfull of seatpost" sizing back
then. My fistfull of seatpost, level-top-tube sizing is 60 X 56/57, c-c.

The 2 of 3 customs that I've kept, the 1999 and 2003 (the only difference
is that the '99 is 57 c-c, the '03 is 58, both sloping tts), were one step
forward from the 1994, and both are my beau ideals or Platonic archetypes
or airey castles of bike fit and handling: slacker head, longer chainstays;
just the perfect combination of straigh line stability and nimble turn-in.
All built for 559 or 571 wheels.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:48 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:

> Here you go Patrick!  It's a bit of a spare-parts build currently, but if
> I keep it* I will be upgrading parts as budget allows.
>
> *I am constantly debating whether to keep my Soma Grand Randonneur or the
> XO, as I only have room for one of them. The Soma would actually be the
> less expensive choice, but the XO is more historically significant. The
> Soma is pretty special too, though!  More tire clearance, 650B, and quick
> too.
>
> On Friday, 22 November 2019 12:03:55 UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>
>> Please post a photo of your '92 XO-1.
>>
>>>
>>> ---
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>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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[RBW] Re: Winter's Troubadour Vanguard

[JohnS]

DP,  looks like it was an awesome day for a ride. Got to love cold weather 
riding!

JohnS

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> In which Indian summer ends with winter's fleeting troubadour vanguard one 
> day, and six inches of snow the next.
> https://deaconpatrick.org/winters-troubadour-vanguard
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Winter's Troubadour Vanguard

[Patrick Moore]

Well, it's about time you posted another ride report onlist. Get back with
the program, man!

Seriously, welcome back, and welcome back too for your very nice photos.

Patrick Moore, in surprisingly wet and grey late autumn ABQ, NM.

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> In which Indian summer ends with winter's fleeting troubadour vanguard one
> day, and six inches of snow the next.
> https://deaconpatrick.org/winters-troubadour-vanguard
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Winter's Troubadour Vanguard

[George Schick]

Deak - At least you had a Fall/Indian Summer.  Here in the Midwest Autumn 
immediately deteriorated into an early Winter with snow fall back at the 
end of October.  It never did return to normal Fall
weather conditions until recently when it's just become an ordinary 
November.  My aging carcass can't handle the cold as well any more so bike 
riding may be over for the year.
George


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> In which Indian summer ends with winter's fleeting troubadour vanguard one 
> day, and six inches of snow the next.
> https://deaconpatrick.org/winters-troubadour-vanguard
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>

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[RBW] Winter's Troubadour Vanguard

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

In which Indian summer ends with winter's fleeting troubadour vanguard one 
day, and six inches of snow the next.
https://deaconpatrick.org/winters-troubadour-vanguard

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Cycling pants

[Patrick Moore]

Ever since I saw a drawing of a very elegant pair of full-length wool
cycling trousers in an old (~1971) cycling book, I've wanted a similar
pair. Today I just picked up my own pair from the tailor, who took a very
nice and comfortable pair of mid-weight, charcoal grey Brooks Brothers
pants that I've owned for years but rarely worn and added lightweight,
interior, wind-blocking linings in the legs, a heavier, outside
saddle-protecting lining in the seat, and pegged the legs with zippers.
*Very* nice looking and, more to the point, *very* comfortable, since the
dress pant cut (these pants pre-date the hipster cut but post-date 1980s
baggies; trim but no binding) is just right for cycling, roomy but no
flapping, and *cut high enough in the waist!* -- my personal bete noir.

$99 including tax; he said he'd charge about $175 for making a pair from
scratch, + material.

I've not yet ridden in them, but since I've ridden in dress pants knickers
for years, I know they'll be comfortable, and the saddle reinforcement will
solve the wear problem -- not that it's a huge problem, IME.

I've left a mid-weight pair of dress flannels, already cut to +6 or so
knicker length, for similar treatment.

In contrast, the Endura riding pants I bought a few years ago, as a design
for cycling that had street pants construction with zip fly, side and rear
pockets, belt loops -- required $100 worth of alteration each to be even
moderately comfortable, and they're still too low in the waist. They may go
on sale shortly.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Toyo Atlantis, partial build

[Gabriel Bruguier]

 Hey Jonathan!  The first is a Surly Big Fat Dummy, which I got used 
earlier this month. (Its pretty much the stock 26 version here 
, with an upgrade to lighter 
tires.) It is my first foray into fatbiking, and has been a very 
interesting learning experience.  I got it as an upgrade to my Xtracycle 
Free Radical, which was a bit too wobbly under even a modest load for me.  
What's it like to ride?  Its actually super smooth and handles pretty 
normal.  But you definitely are reminded of the weight on the hills.  Most 
importantly for me, it is stiff and handles a load well.  So far the most 
I've carried is around 60lbs, and it handled it like a champ.

The second is a Steve Potts Trail Bike 
, Mk 
II.  The new version is like the one he took to NAHBS 2019, featured here 
, which has 
changes to the headset, disc tab, and rack braze ons.  I'll take delivery 
hopefully at the end of the month!  PM if you're interested in the build 
list.  

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Re: [RBW] Let me introduce my new friend, Sam, properly

[Patrick Moore]

"Topline Superlight." I did also use a Grafton triple on it for a while,
which was an entirely other can of worms

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:03 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> ... an ineffably nice looking Grafton Superlight crank ...
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Leah Peterson]

Joyce! I love being in the Clem Club with you! You have yours set up so nicely, 
and I love to see how happy your Clem makes you. Are you decking it out with 
Christmas lights and sleigh bells again this year? I laughed out loud at your 
Clem Song. Truly, this is now our anthem.

Friends - if you aren’t on Instagram you should join us there, we have a ton of 
fun, and this is how I know about Joyce and her Christmas Clem. Her Clem 
decorating was the first photo I saw of her and you know we got acquainted 
after that! Don’t join me if you disapprove of shenanigans though - my page is 
full of those. (See my “Shakedown Ride” video of my new Clem.) Joyce is much 
more sensible and artistic with her posts. The List is great for conversations 
and learning and serious stuff, but Instagram is the icing on the cake. The 
lube on the chain. The Brooks on the Rivendell. The Sackville on the Nitto 
rack. 
Leah

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 22, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Joyce Swanson  wrote:
> 
> 
> Leah, yes I’m in the Clem Club!  It’s dark green and though I would have 
> preferred silver or that dreamy blue, I’m embracing the color and just 
> enjoying the ride so much it really doesn’t matter.  I once called Rivendell 
> to see if I could get a Clementine sticker for it, but no luck.  I’d LOVE to 
> have it say Clementine on one side.  Oh well.
> 
> What I like about Selle Anatomica is it’s the only saddle after trying oh, so 
> many, that didn’t hurt my “girl parts.” (Well, that was personal!) Even the 
> Terry saddles with the cut out didn’t work for me.  If you like Brooks, 
> that’s good!  I can hardly wait to see your Clem with your new one.
> 
> Keep on writing and riding; I always enjoy your creative posts.  Every time I 
> read the title of this one I hear a song.  “I met him on a Monday and my 
> heart stood still. Da doo ron ron ron, da doo ron ron. Somebody told me that 
> his name was Bill...”   (no doubt the song writers didn’t have a new bike in 
> mind, but it works for me:  ”Yeah, Clem caught caught my eye.  Yes, but my oh 
> my!”)
> 
> —Joyce 
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:34 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>  wrote:
>> JAS, 
>> 
>> Thanks so much for the note! You ride a Clem too? I knew you were good 
>> people.
>> 
>> I, too, have learned so much from this conversation; I was so frustrated and 
>> felt stuck in the fender situation, and now it’s solved and I am relieved. 
>> Even better is that it has been so *enjoyable*; I really wish we were all 
>> doing this over coffee. 
>> 
>> I’ve seen the Selle Atomica saddles; I had Brooks first and haven’t had fit 
>> issues, so I’ve not given a lot of thought to the Selle Atomicas. What do 
>> you prefer about them? 
>> 
>> I’m glad you think the wavy silver fenders and I are going to get along - 
>> “unique, sparkly and strong” is high praise, indeed! Thank you. 
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Re: [RBW] Let me introduce my new friend, Sam, properly

[Patrick Moore]

Note that the Elk Passes are really featherweights: I weighed one new
sample at ~175 grams, another at ~180. I use them with the lightest 23 mm
tubes I can find, *with sealant* in goathead country; even on firm dirt;
wonderful tires. Note that I expect only 1,500 trouble free miles out of a
rear installed new, though.

I used 559 X 32 Paselas -- non-Tourguard -- for commuting for several
years, and there is no comparison. That Pasela is better than many
alternatives, but (1) they are surprisingly delicate: I shaved tread off
once by a skid, and several times had the sidewalls crack, and (2) they had
a very small pressure range between bouncy and harsh; and, lastly, they
were quite prone to thorn punctures -- when I was commuting 30-40 miles a
day 3 or 4 times a week, I'd fix at least 4-5 flats a week on just those
wheels. The 559 X 32 actual Kojak rolled as well while being far more
sturdy and resisting thorns better.

Judging things by the usual test -- over a long period, does this tire
encourage your to use a higher gear in given conditions -- the EPs are
worth at least a couple of gear inches over the Kojaks and Paselas, and I
"feel" that they also roll better than the 559 X 23 Pro Races and Grands
Prix I used on another bike -- it has been several years since I used
these, so the models may have changed.

Please post a photo of your '92 XO-1. I have fond memories of mine, though
all  my Riv Roads have been improvements. I first built my XO up as a
gofast, with 48/38/26 X 12-19 7 speed triple, 370 gram "semi-aero" rims
(purple!) shod with the then-available 559 X 23 mm Specialized Turbo (a
very nice tire, and very smooth for its narrow width!), an ineffably nice
looking Grafton Superlight crank, oh, and drop bar Gripshift! I did some of
my modest personal bests on that. After I got my first Riv Road in early
1995, the XO was devolved to commuting duties with 46/36/24 X 13-21, and a
26.4 mm Cinelli Giro d'Italia stuffed into 25.4 mm Tioga T Bone stem, bar
end shifters, rack, fenders, and 2X NightRider Cyclops 15 w halogens, a
good 5 lb of lights, and various Carradice saddlebags, racks, and panniers.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:52 AM Jason Fuller  wrote:

> I have been eyeing the Elk Pass tires for the XO - good to know!  I will
> probably order up a set in the spring.  Funny, a box just arrived to my
> desk from Rene Herse this moment (my new chainrings)
>
> On Friday, 22 November 2019 09:23:49 UTC-8, Christopher Cote wrote:
>>
>> Jason, the build with the Ultradynamico tires is killer! Can I ask what
>> your saddle height is in the pic?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>
> About 28.25" from center of BB to top of saddle, measured parallel with
> seat tube
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Re: [RBW] Re: There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Joyce Swanson]

Leah, yes I’m in the Clem Club!  It’s dark green and though I would have
preferred silver or that dreamy blue, I’m embracing the color and just
enjoying the ride so much it really doesn’t matter.  I once called
Rivendell to see if I could get a Clementine sticker for it, but no luck.
I’d LOVE to have it say Clementine on one side.  Oh well.

What I like about Selle Anatomica is it’s the only saddle after trying oh,
so many, that didn’t hurt my “girl parts.” (Well, that was personal!) Even
the Terry saddles with the cut out didn’t work for me.  If you like Brooks,
that’s good!  I can hardly wait to see your Clem with your new one.

Keep on writing and riding; I always enjoy your creative posts.  Every time
I read the title of this one I hear a song.  “I met him on a Monday and my
heart stood still. Da doo ron ron ron, da doo ron ron. Somebody told me
that his name was Bill...”   (no doubt the song writers didn’t have a new
bike in mind, but it works for me:  ”Yeah, Clem caught caught my eye.  Yes,
but my oh my!”)

—Joyce

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:34 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> JAS,
>
> Thanks so much for the note! You ride a Clem too? I knew you were good
> people.
>
> I, too, have learned so much from this conversation; I was so frustrated
> and felt stuck in the fender situation, and now it’s solved and I am
> relieved. Even better is that it has been so *enjoyable*; I really wish we
> were all doing this over coffee.
>
> I’ve seen the Selle Atomica saddles; I had Brooks first and haven’t had
> fit issues, so I’ve not given a lot of thought to the Selle Atomicas. What
> do you prefer about them?
>
> I’m glad you think the wavy silver fenders and I are going to get along -
> “unique, sparkly and strong” is high praise, indeed! Thank you. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Opinions on some Napa routes?

[Lee Chae]

Hi all,

Thanks, Bill, Eric and Rick for your thoughts and suggestions! It is
beautiful country up there. We took Howell Mtn Road up towards Pope Valley,
but had to turn around as we ran out of time due to breaking camp a lot
later in the morning than we had planned. Not a bad thing as we were
enjoying the camping at Bothe-Napa Valley State Park.

But, I plan to return to do that loop.

Cheers,
Lee
SF, CA

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 4:52 PM Bill Rhea  wrote:

> Hi Lee,
>
> Sounds like you'd come down St. Helena / Spring Mtn road out of the
> mountains heading into St. Helena. I would probably opt for White Cottage /
> Ink Grade instead of Howell Mtn Rd, as there's less traffic, for sure.  Old
> Howell Mountain Road is the best climb up from Silverado.  However, they've
> blocked it off at the top where it hits Howell Mountain Road so you would
> probably need to throw it over the barrier when you hit the top
> Anybody else ridden Old Howell Mountain Rd recently?
>
> If you are there another time (maybe w/o camping gear) I definitely
> suggest Mt Veeder and Dry Creek roads.  Super low traffic; I'm usually out
> there by myself!
>
> Cheers,
>
> -br
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 9:57:59 AM UTC-8, LeeC wrote:
>>
>> Hey RBWers, hope you are all enjoying a good fall!
>>
>> I'm thinking about doing the following ride this Saturday morning and
>> wanted to get your thoughts on how difficult, how much time, relative
>> safety and traffic conditions, etc. Note, I'll be traveling with a camping
>> load on the bike.
>>
>> I'd appreciate any input you may have on:
>>
>> 1. Bothe-Napa Valley State Park to Pope Valley via either Howell Mountain
>> Rd or White Cottage Rd + Ink Grade
>>
>> 2. Chiles and Pope Valley Rd to Lake Hennessey
>>
>> 3. Lake Hennessy down to Yountsville, likely via the Silverado Trail
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Lee
>> SF, CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Choco moose or bull moose?

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

Both!

One day I may try to complete the ‘moose trio with a 58cm Bosco-moose, but it’s 
not a priority right now.  Earlier this season I swapped a bullmoose onto my 
65cm Clem H after previously trying the Chocomoose.  I actually like both but 
find the width/flare of the bullmoose better for my mixed terrain rides on the 
Clem and moved the Chocomoose over to a more pavement oriented single speed.  
My Clem came stock with a standard 55cm Bosco Cromo bar which I ended up 
trading away for a 660 Jones riser loop bar.  I liked this layout/width better 
and that helped inform my eventual bullmoose acquisition when I finally decided 
to eliminate the quill-threadless adapter I used with the 31.8 Jones bar.

Brian Cole
Lawrenceville NJ

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Re: [RBW] Re: There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

JAS, 

Thanks so much for the note! You ride a Clem too? I knew you were good people.

I, too, have learned so much from this conversation; I was so frustrated and 
felt stuck in the fender situation, and now it’s solved and I am relieved. Even 
better is that it has been so *enjoyable*; I really wish we were all doing this 
over coffee. 

I’ve seen the Selle Atomica saddles; I had Brooks first and haven’t had fit 
issues, so I’ve not given a lot of thought to the Selle Atomicas. What do you 
prefer about them? 

I’m glad you think the wavy silver fenders and I are going to get along - 
“unique, sparkly and strong” is high praise, indeed! Thank you. 

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[RBW] Choco moose or bull moose?

['Keith Swanson' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks for everyone's thoughts on the choco bar vs choco moose.  Has anyone 
used both the bull moose and choco moose?  I have bosco bars on my Clem L 
and am thinking of what to put on an Appaloosa.  I like more a more upright 
position than drop bars but would like something less so than the bosco.  

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Re: [RBW] Let me introduce my new friend, Sam, properly

[Christopher Cote]

Thanks. I assumed that the 55cm Sam was my size, but my saddle height has been 
creeping down over the past few years, and I run it around 72cm now. Your 
saddle height isn't much lower than mine, and it looks like you can get the 
bars at saddle height without an unreasonable amount of stem quill showing. 
That opens the possibility of 650b for me.

Chris

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Re: [RBW] Let me introduce my new friend, Sam, properly

[Jason Fuller]

I have been eyeing the Elk Pass tires for the XO - good to know!  I will 
probably order up a set in the spring.  Funny, a box just arrived to my 
desk from Rene Herse this moment (my new chainrings) 

On Friday, 22 November 2019 09:23:49 UTC-8, Christopher Cote wrote:
>
> Jason, the build with the Ultradynamico tires is killer! Can I ask what 
> your saddle height is in the pic?
>
> Chris
>

About 28.25" from center of BB to top of saddle, measured parallel with 
seat tube 

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Re: [RBW] Let me introduce my new friend, Sam, properly

[Christopher Cote]

Jason, the build with the Ultradynamico tires is killer! Can I ask what your 
saddle height is in the pic?

Chris

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Re: [RBW] Re: There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[John McClusky]

If you love the Ergon grips and your brown or honey saddle as much as I like 
mine, you can always get the biokork Ergons 

https://www.rei.com/product/884443/ergon-gp1-biokork-handlebar-grips?CAWELAID=12021789752296=pla=15877513960=pla-448206113671_mmc=PLA_Google%7C404_164215%7C8844430002%7Cnone%7C_kenshoo_clickid_%7Cpla-448206113671=cm_mmc:PLA_Google_LIA%7C404_164215%7C8844430002%7Cnone%7C_kenshoo_clickid_=_kenshoo_clickid_=Cj0KCQiAq97uBRCwARIsADTziyYS_7gEgAljAB6_qJAlSVGKnEycdSBe9l7Lp7f8VsP-eIoGFQ4boi0aAkBCEALw_wcB
 

20% off while their sale is going on.  I have that set up on a Brompton and 
really like it.  As for fenders, I had a sett of Honjos and gave them away.  I 
ride a gravel path a lot and the noise of the gravel bouncing around in the 
fenders drove me batty.  Replaced them with SKS from Riv.  I thought they were 
much quieter just not as nice looking.

John

John

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Re: [RBW] Let me introduce my new friend, Sam, properly

[John McClusky]

I’ve got several years on my older, canti Sam and can’t imagine ever giving it 
up.  I’m always reminded that it’s the best bike I’ve ever owned every time I 
ride it.  Do yourself a favor.  Get a second wheelset.  Swapouts are a breeze.  
Takes me very little time to swap from road Sam to dirt Sam.  Fenders add a 
little challenge.

Enjoy the ride for many years to come.

John

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Re: [RBW] Re: There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[JAS]

Thanks for the conversation, Leah.  I am learning a lot by reading the advice 
and experience from other posters.  Though I might be repeating what you’ve 
already heard from others, here’s my take on your questions:
1.  I agree with the others; falls from fender jams are unlikely in your riding 
conditions.  I live in the PNW and use fenders all the time.  My usual Clem 
ride (with plastic fenders) is on a dirt trail that is strewn with sticks, 
leaves, and blackberry vines.  Once in a while a leaf gets stuck, but I’ve 
never had a jam of any kind that caused a sudden halt.
2.  I love the Selle Anatomical saddles; I’ve tried many over the years and 
this was the first one that is entirely comfortable.  I have the one with the 
center cut on all of my bikes and I’m happy with black.  They have black with 
copper rivets as a choice.  They’ve had red ones in the past; check out the 
seconds listing.  If you’re interested about how they dye them, I’d just call.  
I’ve experienced great customer service from them. 
3.  Those wavy silver fenders are fantastic!  They would look so good on your 
blue Clemunique, sparkly , and strong...just like you!

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[RBW] Re: For Sale Silver Crankset 173 low Double, bb, $160 shipped

[Mark Roland]

Sold. Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Let me introduce my new friend, Sam, properly

[Patrick Moore]

Try the Rene Herse 559 Elk Pass: these make Paselas feel like $10 knobbies.
~29 mm on 21 mm (outside) rims, ~27 on 19s. Grant designed my 2 (remaining
of 3) Riv road customs to be improvements on my erstwhile '92 XO-1.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 10:47 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:

> ...
> Joe - yeah, as much as I wish I could fit a bit more tire, that's a good
> point. The 1992 has a unique charm. I prefer bigger tires but it's like a
> go-kart with the 26x1.25 Pasela tires (which measure more like 26mm). Super
> fun bike.
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