Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

They look like V-brakes to me. You can see the noodle in the front cable 
line. And, a side pull doesn't easily work in the rear because of the cable 
routing to the brake arm with the housing stop. That Saddlesack would get 
in the way.
I don't recognize the brakes -- TRP?
Same ornate seat cluster lug as on the Susie/Wolbis. I like it and the 
fluted end caps on the seat stays.-

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA


On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 5:24:17 PM UTC-7, Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> Totally! Which is exactly what I'd hoped for. I don't know what the tubing 
> is on the Roadini but I imagine this is similar, maybe one step up in wall 
> thickness. Normally I'd want 650B in my size but since I can "size up" more 
> comfortably with the curved top tube, the 700c will be proportional.  
> Anyone know what sidepulls those are? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Leah Peterson]

Brendanoid: I’d have never believed it but you have the photo. Age 3, landing 
jumps with no feet? Also, do I see a rear rack on that bike? YOU were more Riv 
than Riv. We should get patches made.

Matthew: You gave the cutoff for “our” haircut at 1980. My photo was taken in 
1986. North Dakota was always behind the trends! 

I love the quote.

Leah

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> On Aug 18, 2020, at 8:50 PM, brendonoid  wrote:
> 
> Landing a sick jump feet free on my 3rd birthday in 1986. Step through steel 
> frame with fat tyres, fenders and an albatross bar on quill stem as high as 
> it would go. My Riv future was assured...
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, 19 August 2020 at 10:20:50 UTC+8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Here is a thread that will veer just a bit from the normal subject matter. 
>> But it has been 112 degrees today, and we have to do something while we wait 
>> for our Platypus bikes. Going for a walk down memory lane is what we’re 
>> doing.
>> 
>> I recently found this treasure. Pictured is me, at 5 years old with my very 
>> first bike. My parents purchased it at a garage sale from a family in town. 
>> It was a Huffy Desert Rose (long, dramatic, wistful sigh here).The story was 
>> that the bike had been backed over but -yay!- the man of the house had 
>> welded the bike back into working order. I was THRILLED. I never had 
>> training wheels - I learned by taking off and crashing all over the 
>> neighborhood. I didn’t care if I was missing a lot of hide; I had wheels and 
>> I was going places in my tiny North Dakota town.
>> 
>> I would like to take this time to point out several things...
>> 
>> 1. I really think they nailed the saddle height on the first try.
>> 
>> 2. My bike had fenders! And they were clearly for decoration only.
>> 
>> 3. What shoes was I wearing? I don’t know, but what I can tell you I didn’t 
>> trouble myself with socks. 
>> 
>> 4. My celebrity lookalike was Mowgli from the Jungle Book. 
>> 
>> 6. Banana seats > Brooks saddles.
>> 
>> 7. No need for racks/baskets. I put a friend or a little sister on the 
>> banana seat and SHE carried the goods.
>> 
>> 8. Kids were tougher in the 80s. That bike was huge for 5-year-old me, but I 
>> rode it. Pedaling that bike felt like being stuck in the hardest gear going 
>> uphill always (the welder dad overestimated his abilities), but I rode the 
>> wheels off of it..most likely with flat tires.
>> 
>> In closing, I might also point out that I was into Rivendell before 
>> Rivendell was into Rivendell. Compare the Huffy with my Clementine - I was 
>> an early adopter.
>> 
>> This was the day the love affair began, friends. I am so happy to have a 
>> photo of it. Who else has a story about their first bike? Bonus points if 
>> you can also provide photos.
>> 
>> Leah
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Smöl Summer Sale (shirts, bike stuff, camp stuff)

[Shawn Granton]

Sit pad has sold.

What remains:

   - Pump
   - Old school cyclometer
   - Old man action shirt

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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Leah Peterson]

Matthew! You responded exactly in kind! Your story is fantastic, riveting - 
truly. And, fine, I admit it, your Schwinn Stingray was cooler than the Huffy 
Desert Rose.

I would also like to point out that we had the same haircut. 藍藍藍

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> On Aug 18, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Matthew Williams 
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> 
> On a sunny Christmas morning in 1975, I got a fire-engine red Schwinn 
> Sting-Ray.
> 
> My brother, our friends, and I would ride our bikes every day after school 
> and all during the summer. Our parents had no idea where we were or what we 
> were doing--their only rule was, "Be home at six for dinner." They probably 
> thought we couldn't go far, but we rode through every alley and backstreet of 
> our town, and the neighboring town, and the town beyond that.
> 
> We'd ride down to the beach or along the cliffs above it, or into the nearby 
> state park where we'd look for bats in the caves, tease rattlesnakes, explore 
> the flood-control dams, and one summer we discovered a swing someone had made 
> from a stolen fire hose. I was seven years old, I had a bike, we had total 
> freedom, and the world was ours to explore.
> 
> <1975_Schwinn_StingRay_1.jpg>
> <1975_Schwinn_StingRay_2.jpg>
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[RBW] WTB right (rear) shimano paul thumbie (or a set, if necessary)

[Michael Baquerizo]

looking for a rear derailleur paul thumbie. color doesn't matter really, 
silver would be cool but black is fine. 

aesthetic condition doesn't matter too much either. 

if anyone has the thumbie (or adapter) that takes the riv shifters, that 
would be good too. 

thanks in advance!

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[RBW] Re: FS: Smöl Summer Sale (shirts, bike stuff, camp stuff)

[Shawn Granton]

Rustines grips have sold.

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[RBW] Re: VP 001 rebuild kit

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I found VP's bearings to be disposable, wearing out on my every 14-60 days. 
MKS cone pedals: 6 months. MKS sealed bearing pedals: several pair still 
going several years in. Keep in mind, I'm an ogre.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 8:09:01 PM UTC-6, spencer robinson wrote:
>
> Thank you Paul, that confirms what I suspected
>
> On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 9:23:01 PM UTC-4 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> Last time I tried to deal with this, the bike shop told me to pull them 
>> apart and figure out what bearing I needed and they'd order it from wheels 
>> manufacturing.
>>
>> I didn't have the tool to take the bearings out of the 001 (a 4 or 5 mm 
>> punch if I recall), and the rebuild kit cost as much as a new pair of VP 
>> Vice pedals, so now I just have a clicky pedal that I use sometimes for 
>> temporary stuff.
>>
>> That was several years ago. I searched again a couple years ago and 
>> couldn't find the kits at all anymore. Kinda turned me off of VP even 
>> though I do really like their pedals.
>>
>> Paul in AR
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 9:33:08 AM UTC-5, spencer robinson wrote:
>>>
>>> My older pair of VP “ThinGripsters brought me home with an annoying 
>>> click the other day. I have determined that it is the drive side pedal as 
>>> the noise is gone when I switch to a fairly new pair of Clem pedals. My 
>>> question to the group is, does anyone know where I can find a rebuild kit? 
>>> I don’t see anything at Rivendell or even Amazon. 
>>> Then I was thinking, maybe just buy a new pair of Clems..might be 
>>> cheaper..
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Square Rivendell Road with S Couplers

[Karl]

Welcome! 
Should ride snappier... new AHH is longer wheelbase... but the AHH will fit 
wider tires. So, this would ride more traditional road.
Pretty level
7cm I believe. 
I am 84.5...but like most men, I stretch it to 85. I’d say 83 to 87
Less than 30, but the wheels are quiet heavy so you could get it down in 
the upper 20s pretty easy
Hope that helps! My email is karl.wor...@gmail.com if you have any other 
questions you want to chat private. Thanks!

Karl

On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 8:52:35 PM UTC-5 Tirebiter ATX wrote:

> A couple of questions. I’m fairly new to Rivendell.  Wondering if you 
> could comment.
> How different would this ride feel compared to the latest version of AHH?
> Top tube is level or so it appears?
> Stem is short.  5cm?
> What is PBH range for this frame?
> While Riv bike owners are not weight conscious, still, I’d like to know 
> what this bike weighs.  It matters if I’m schlepping it in a suitcase in 
> taxis and airports.
> Thanks
> Lyman in ATX
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 7:12 PM Karl  wrote:
>
>> She would look good on you Tirebiter! Thanks for the reply Robert!
>>
>> Karl
>> Nash, TN
>> On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 12:40:24 PM UTC-5 Tirebiter ATX wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks. I’ll need to read up on that.  I like the coupler option. 
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 10:51 AM Robert Tilley  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 The top tube & seat tube lengths are equal.

 Robert Tilley
 San Diego, CA

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 Hi
 Nice bike. I’m not familiar with the term “square” in  Bicycle frames. 
 What is meant by that?
 Thanks

 On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:18 PM Karl  wrote:

> Maybe I am off... hmmm, what if I throw in a second Rivendell Road 
> frame that is a 58 square and would be a great spandex machine! 
>
> On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 5:08:12 PM UTC-5 Karl wrote:
>
>> Thinning a bit. This one is collecting too much dust. XT Rear, Chorus 
>> front, Phil Wood wheels, S Couplers. Saddle can be included or will 
>> take 
>> $25 off without. Saddle bag not included. I bought this, but soon after 
>> bought a different Rivendell with S's. Pictures at 
>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B16GDdyTvGSqI5R
>>
>> Would like $2000 to me. Would LOVE local pickup, or a road trip... 
>> but can pack and ship for cost. 
>>
>> Karl
>> Nashville, TN
>>
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[RBW] Re: VP 001 rebuild kit

[spencer robinson]

Thank you Paul, that confirms what I suspected

On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 9:23:01 PM UTC-4 Paul Clifton wrote:

> Last time I tried to deal with this, the bike shop told me to pull them 
> apart and figure out what bearing I needed and they'd order it from wheels 
> manufacturing.
>
> I didn't have the tool to take the bearings out of the 001 (a 4 or 5 mm 
> punch if I recall), and the rebuild kit cost as much as a new pair of VP 
> Vice pedals, so now I just have a clicky pedal that I use sometimes for 
> temporary stuff.
>
> That was several years ago. I searched again a couple years ago and 
> couldn't find the kits at all anymore. Kinda turned me off of VP even 
> though I do really like their pedals.
>
> Paul in AR
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 9:33:08 AM UTC-5, spencer robinson wrote:
>>
>> My older pair of VP “ThinGripsters brought me home with an annoying click 
>> the other day. I have determined that it is the drive side pedal as the 
>> noise is gone when I switch to a fairly new pair of Clem pedals. My 
>> question to the group is, does anyone know where I can find a rebuild kit? 
>> I don’t see anything at Rivendell or even Amazon. 
>> Then I was thinking, maybe just buy a new pair of Clems..might be 
>> cheaper..
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Square Rivendell Road with S Couplers

[Lyman Labry]

A couple of questions. I’m fairly new to Rivendell.  Wondering if you could
comment.
How different would this ride feel compared to the latest version of AHH?
Top tube is level or so it appears?
Stem is short.  5cm?
What is PBH range for this frame?
While Riv bike owners are not weight conscious, still, I’d like to know
what this bike weighs.  It matters if I’m schlepping it in a suitcase in
taxis and airports.
Thanks
Lyman in ATX


On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 7:12 PM Karl  wrote:

> She would look good on you Tirebiter! Thanks for the reply Robert!
>
> Karl
> Nash, TN
> On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 12:40:24 PM UTC-5 Tirebiter ATX wrote:
>
>> Thanks. I’ll need to read up on that.  I like the coupler option.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 10:51 AM Robert Tilley  wrote:
>>
>>> The top tube & seat tube lengths are equal.
>>>
>>> Robert Tilley
>>> San Diego, CA
>>>
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>>> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Square Rivendell Road with S
>>> Couplers
>>>
>>> Hi
>>> Nice bike. I’m not familiar with the term “square” in  Bicycle frames.
>>> What is meant by that?
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:18 PM Karl  wrote:
>>>
 Maybe I am off... hmmm, what if I throw in a second Rivendell Road
 frame that is a 58 square and would be a great spandex machine!

 On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 5:08:12 PM UTC-5 Karl wrote:

> Thinning a bit. This one is collecting too much dust. XT Rear, Chorus
> front, Phil Wood wheels, S Couplers. Saddle can be included or will take
> $25 off without. Saddle bag not included. I bought this, but soon after
> bought a different Rivendell with S's. Pictures at
> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B16GDdyTvGSqI5R
>
> Would like $2000 to me. Would LOVE local pickup, or a road trip... but
> can pack and ship for cost.
>
> Karl
> Nashville, TN
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[RBW] Re: VP 001 rebuild kit

[Paul Clifton]

Last time I tried to deal with this, the bike shop told me to pull them 
apart and figure out what bearing I needed and they'd order it from wheels 
manufacturing.

I didn't have the tool to take the bearings out of the 001 (a 4 or 5 mm 
punch if I recall), and the rebuild kit cost as much as a new pair of VP 
Vice pedals, so now I just have a clicky pedal that I use sometimes for 
temporary stuff.

That was several years ago. I searched again a couple years ago and 
couldn't find the kits at all anymore. Kinda turned me off of VP even 
though I do really like their pedals.

Paul in AR


On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 9:33:08 AM UTC-5, spencer robinson wrote:
>
> My older pair of VP “ThinGripsters brought me home with an annoying click 
> the other day. I have determined that it is the drive side pedal as the 
> noise is gone when I switch to a fairly new pair of Clem pedals. My 
> question to the group is, does anyone know where I can find a rebuild kit? 
> I don’t see anything at Rivendell or even Amazon. 
> Then I was thinking, maybe just buy a new pair of Clems..might be cheaper..
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[lambbo]

BEATIFUL!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[Eric Daume]

>From the CHG drawings, it looks like the tubing might actually be smaller
diameter than the Roadini. The Roadini (at least in my 61cm size), has a
28.6~31.8 top tube, while the CHG looks to be 25.4 that is squished various
ways. That would be a nice change--the Roadini is plenty stout.

Eric

On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 8:24 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:

> Totally! Which is exactly what I'd hoped for. I don't know what the tubing
> is on the Roadini but I imagine this is similar, maybe one step up in wall
> thickness. Normally I'd want 650B in my size but since I can "size up" more
> comfortably with the curved top tube, the 700c will be proportional.
> Anyone know what sidepulls those are?
> On Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 16:27:13 UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> That looks like they took a Roadini, gave it slightly bigger tire
>> clearance, added Canti posts, and curved the top tube.  I approve.
>>
>> I wonder if it's 130mm in back or 135mm
>>
>> I also wonder if that's a 35 year old Suntour BL front der on that
>> build.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 3:57:37 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> You underestimate my parts bin! I could build both complete, other than
>>> the new wheelset, but you're very right that it's only a $750 increase over
>>> the frameset (give or take, depending where it lands exactly) and that's a
>>> great value for a full build curated by Riv. I'm not sure how flexible Riv
>>> typically is about swapping stuff out but I suspect I shall find out (and
>>> buy either way).
>>>
>>> Okay fine, I'll also include the photo I received from James - not like
>>> there's anything new being leaked here!  Both James and Grant sound very
>>> pleased with how it rides. [image: IMG_8351.jpg]
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] FS. MKS sylvan touring pedals -silver UPDATED

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Offers entertained for the pedals  plus actual shipping charges to you

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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[Jason Fuller]

Totally! Which is exactly what I'd hoped for. I don't know what the tubing 
is on the Roadini but I imagine this is similar, maybe one step up in wall 
thickness. Normally I'd want 650B in my size but since I can "size up" more 
comfortably with the curved top tube, the 700c will be proportional.  
Anyone know what sidepulls those are? 
On Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 16:27:13 UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> That looks like they took a Roadini, gave it slightly bigger tire 
> clearance, added Canti posts, and curved the top tube.  I approve.  
>
> I wonder if it's 130mm in back or 135mm
>
> I also wonder if that's a 35 year old Suntour BL front der on that build.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 3:57:37 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> You underestimate my parts bin! I could build both complete, other than 
>> the new wheelset, but you're very right that it's only a $750 increase over 
>> the frameset (give or take, depending where it lands exactly) and that's a 
>> great value for a full build curated by Riv. I'm not sure how flexible Riv 
>> typically is about swapping stuff out but I suspect I shall find out (and 
>> buy either way). 
>>
>> Okay fine, I'll also include the photo I received from James - not like 
>> there's anything new being leaked here!  Both James and Grant sound very 
>> pleased with how it rides. [image: IMG_8351.jpg]
>>
>>  
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Square Rivendell Road with S Couplers

[Karl]

She would look good on you Tirebiter! Thanks for the reply Robert!

Karl
Nash, TN
On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 12:40:24 PM UTC-5 Tirebiter ATX wrote:

> Thanks. I’ll need to read up on that.  I like the coupler option. 
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 10:51 AM Robert Tilley  wrote:
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>> The top tube & seat tube lengths are equal.
>>
>> Robert Tilley
>> San Diego, CA
>>
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>> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Square Rivendell Road with S Couplers
>>
>> Hi
>> Nice bike. I’m not familiar with the term “square” in  Bicycle frames. 
>> What is meant by that?
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:18 PM Karl  wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe I am off... hmmm, what if I throw in a second Rivendell Road frame 
>>> that is a 58 square and would be a great spandex machine! 
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 5:08:12 PM UTC-5 Karl wrote:
>>>
 Thinning a bit. This one is collecting too much dust. XT Rear, Chorus 
 front, Phil Wood wheels, S Couplers. Saddle can be included or will take 
 $25 off without. Saddle bag not included. I bought this, but soon after 
 bought a different Rivendell with S's. Pictures at 
 https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B16GDdyTvGSqI5R

 Would like $2000 to me. Would LOVE local pickup, or a road trip... but 
 can pack and ship for cost. 

 Karl
 Nashville, TN

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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[Bill Lindsay]

That looks like they took a Roadini, gave it slightly bigger tire 
clearance, added Canti posts, and curved the top tube.  I approve.  

I wonder if it's 130mm in back or 135mm

I also wonder if that's a 35 year old Suntour BL front der on that build.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 3:57:37 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> You underestimate my parts bin! I could build both complete, other than 
> the new wheelset, but you're very right that it's only a $750 increase over 
> the frameset (give or take, depending where it lands exactly) and that's a 
> great value for a full build curated by Riv. I'm not sure how flexible Riv 
> typically is about swapping stuff out but I suspect I shall find out (and 
> buy either way). 
>
> Okay fine, I'll also include the photo I received from James - not like 
> there's anything new being leaked here!  Both James and Grant sound very 
> pleased with how it rides. [image: IMG_8351.jpg]
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[Joe Bernard]

For $1650 you get a complete bike and can sell your Clem H without pilfering 
any parts from it. Winner! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[Jason Fuller]

James told me some stuff today about the Charlie H Gallop and I've kept the 
secret for a full hour now - I hope he wasn't expecting me to hold it in 
longer than that :D 

- They will be sold as completes with Clem-like pricing (I don't know if 
they'll be drop bar, upright, or both options) 
- Rough timing is November to January for them to be available (or maybe 
that's the presale, don't quote me) 

As someone who has almost all the parts to build one up, I was hoping for 
frameset only, but if it's near the $1650 complete mark, how can I 
complain. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: MKS Next Touring Pedal Bearing Question

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I think you've got the truth of it, Benjamin. The dust cover is tight plus 
a snug, and the bearings spin freely. The only "adjustment" the dust cover 
seems to do is loosening the macro bearing mechanisms so the pedal is loose.

Aye, Ray, I was bemused that I managed to hit a rock to unscrew the dust 
cap without bending the grip plates. The aluminum outter threads of the cap 
have a few scratches is all. I had no idea I was so finessed a rider. 
Sardonic grin, as finesse is a highly relative term when applied to 
anything I do.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 12:34:53 PM UTC-6, Benjamin Kelley wrote:
>
> But these use sealed cartridge bearings right?  What is to adjust other 
> than holding them and the spindle in place? 
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 1:31 PM Ray > 
> wrote:
>
>> That's really interesting. I don't think I've seen that before. If it 
>> were me, I think I would treat it just like setting the bearing load in a 
>> hub or bottom bracket and just tighten just to the sweet spot of no-play 
>> but spins freely.
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 1:24:13 PM UTC-5 Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>>> Fixed gear single track riding my Quickbeam I managed to loosen the dust 
>>> cover that doubles to adjust the bearings with a pedal strike on a rock. I 
>>> snugged it up via an alan wrench and the pedal spins freely and everything 
>>> seems fine. However, the MKS site says: "The dust seal cap also 
>>> functions as the bearing adjuster. If you loosen the cap, it may cause play 
>>> and premature wear." https://www.mkspedal.com/?q=en/product/node/331
>>>
>>> Anything more/different I should do?
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Smöl Summer Sale (shirts, bike stuff, camp stuff)

[Shawn Granton]

MUSA shirt has sold.

On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 11:54:51 AM UTC-7, Shawn Granton wrote:
>
> Hello, friends! The endless purging of unused items continues. This time 
> it’s a grab bag of clothing, bike items, and camping stuff. All prices are 
> USD, and do not include shipping. Shipping will start at $4 USD, depending 
> on what and how much you get. Local contacless pickup can be arranged 
> (around Mount Tabor in Portland), but you have to pre-pay first. Payment 
> via PayPal or Square Ca$h. Interested? Drop me a line at 
> urbanadventurelea...@gmail.com and include your ZIP Code so I can sort 
> out shipping costs. 
>
> *$5 items*
>
>- *Zefal Lapize traditional frame pump. *Measures 380 mm, will fit in 
>the pump pegs of an old British three speed (like my 1968 Raleigh 
> Superbe.) 
>Comes with hose for schrader tubes.
>- *Rustine Constructeur Grips*, white. Nice soft rubber. Ribbed, for 
>your pleasure.
>- *REI Inflatable sit pad.* Still holds air just fine!
>- *Old school cyclometer.* Mounts near your front hub, measures 
>distance by a sprocket wheel hitting spokes. Clicky!
>
>
> *$10 Item*
>
>- *Ex-Officio long-sleeved "Old Man Action Shirt", size "L".* 
>Liberally vented and has those "straps" that hold a rolled up sleeve up. 
>Unknown synthetic material (probably polyester), and I say "large" because 
>the tag is gone.
>
>
> *The $40 Item*
>
>- *MUSA striped blue/grey long sleeved shirt,* 100% merino wool, size 
>L. That classic shirt that Rivendell used to carry, made in the USA. Well 
>cared for and in good shape, but it's most likely shrunk a little over the 
>years.
>
> Photos here:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/albums/72157715527747201
>
> Best,
> Shawn
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[RBW] FS: Smöl Summer Sale (shirts, bike stuff, camp stuff)

[Shawn Granton]

Hello, friends! The endless purging of unused items continues. This time 
it’s a grab bag of clothing, bike items, and camping stuff. All prices are 
USD, and do not include shipping. Shipping will start at $4 USD, depending 
on what and how much you get. Local contacless pickup can be arranged 
(around Mount Tabor in Portland), but you have to pre-pay first. Payment 
via PayPal or Square Ca$h. Interested? Drop me a line at 
urbanadventurelea...@gmail.com and include your ZIP Code so I can sort out 
shipping costs. 

*$5 items*

   - *Zefal Lapize traditional frame pump. *Measures 380 mm, will fit in 
   the pump pegs of an old British three speed (like my 1968 Raleigh Superbe.) 
   Comes with hose for schrader tubes.
   - *Rustine Constructeur Grips*, white. Nice soft rubber. Ribbed, for 
   your pleasure.
   - *REI Inflatable sit pad.* Still holds air just fine!
   - *Old school cyclometer.* Mounts near your front hub, measures distance 
   by a sprocket wheel hitting spokes. Clicky!


*$10 Item*

   - *Ex-Officio long-sleeved "Old Man Action Shirt", size "L".* Liberally 
   vented and has those "straps" that hold a rolled up sleeve up. Unknown 
   synthetic material (probably polyester), and I say "large" because the tag 
   is gone.


*The $40 Item*

   - *MUSA striped blue/grey long sleeved shirt,* 100% merino wool, size L. 
   That classic shirt that Rivendell used to carry, made in the USA. Well 
   cared for and in good shape, but it's most likely shrunk a little over the 
   years.

Photos here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/albums/72157715527747201

Best,
Shawn

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Re: [RBW] Re: MKS Next Touring Pedal Bearing Question

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

But these use sealed cartridge bearings right?  What is to adjust other
than holding them and the spindle in place?

On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 1:31 PM Ray  wrote:

> That's really interesting. I don't think I've seen that before. If it were
> me, I think I would treat it just like setting the bearing load in a hub or
> bottom bracket and just tighten just to the sweet spot of no-play but spins
> freely.
>
> On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 1:24:13 PM UTC-5 Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
>> Fixed gear single track riding my Quickbeam I managed to loosen the dust
>> cover that doubles to adjust the bearings with a pedal strike on a rock. I
>> snugged it up via an alan wrench and the pedal spins freely and everything
>> seems fine. However, the MKS site says: "The dust seal cap also
>> functions as the bearing adjuster. If you loosen the cap, it may cause play
>> and premature wear." https://www.mkspedal.com/?q=en/product/node/331
>>
>> Anything more/different I should do?
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: MKS Next Touring Pedal Bearing Question

[Ray]

That's really interesting. I don't think I've seen that before. If it were 
me, I think I would treat it just like setting the bearing load in a hub or 
bottom bracket and just tighten just to the sweet spot of no-play but spins 
freely.

On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 1:24:13 PM UTC-5 Deacon Patrick wrote:

> Fixed gear single track riding my Quickbeam I managed to loosen the dust 
> cover that doubles to adjust the bearings with a pedal strike on a rock. I 
> snugged it up via an alan wrench and the pedal spins freely and everything 
> seems fine. However, the MKS site says: "The dust seal cap also functions 
> as the bearing adjuster. If you loosen the cap, it may cause play and 
> premature wear." https://www.mkspedal.com/?q=en/product/node/331
>
> Anything more/different I should do?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] MKS Next Touring Pedal Bearing Question

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Fixed gear single track riding my Quickbeam I managed to loosen the dust cover 
that doubles to adjust the bearings with a pedal strike on a rock. I snugged it 
up via an alan wrench and the pedal spins freely and everything seems fine. 
However, the MKS site says: "The dust seal cap also functions as the bearing 
adjuster. If you loosen the cap, it may cause play and premature wear." 
https://www.mkspedal.com/?q=en/product/node/331

Anything more/different I should do?

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Square Rivendell Road with S Couplers

[Lyman Labry]

Thanks. I’ll need to read up on that.  I like the coupler option.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 10:51 AM Robert Tilley  wrote:

> The top tube & seat tube lengths are equal.
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
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>
> Hi
> Nice bike. I’m not familiar with the term “square” in  Bicycle frames.
> What is meant by that?
> Thanks
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:18 PM Karl  wrote:
>
>> Maybe I am off... hmmm, what if I throw in a second Rivendell Road frame
>> that is a 58 square and would be a great spandex machine!
>>
>> On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 5:08:12 PM UTC-5 Karl wrote:
>>
>>> Thinning a bit. This one is collecting too much dust. XT Rear, Chorus
>>> front, Phil Wood wheels, S Couplers. Saddle can be included or will take
>>> $25 off without. Saddle bag not included. I bought this, but soon after
>>> bought a different Rivendell with S's. Pictures at
>>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B16GDdyTvGSqI5R
>>>
>>> Would like $2000 to me. Would LOVE local pickup, or a road trip... but
>>> can pack and ship for cost.
>>>
>>> Karl
>>> Nashville, TN
>>>
>>
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[RBW] WTB: Shimano XT RD-M772-GS rear derailleur

[Jan O.]

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for a rear derailleur for a future build and specifically for a 
Shimano XT Shadow RD-M772-GS, 9 Speed, Medium Cage. Newish condition would 
be great. Please email me if you have one for sale: jan(dot)ottenhof (at) 
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Thank you

Jan
San Francisco, CA

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[RBW] WTT: my large Saddlesack for your Baggabond (pretty sure that's the one)

[Teague Scott]

Hi!

So, I just purchased a large olive saddlesack from a fellow list member. I 
was hoping to support the bag with a Mark's rack, but the bag is just too 
deep! I'm thinking that the Baggabond would be a slightly better fit with 
the Mark's (I know - might not be the best rack choice...) and I have the 
extra height for it.

The large saddlesack I've got is in really good condition. There is a bit 
of fading around the edges, but no serious wear and tear. I'd be happy with 
a Baggabond, ideally olive, in most any condition as long as it isn't full 
of holes!

Anyone out there interested in a trade? I can also throw a little $$ on top 
if you like.

I'm happy to send photos along to anyone that might be able to help!

- Teague

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[RBW] WTB: Shimano XT RD-M772-GS Rear Derailleur

[Jan O.]

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for a rear derailleur for a future build and specifically for a 
Shimano XT Shadow RD-M772-GS, 9 Speed, Medium Cage. Newish condition would 
be great. Please email me if you have one for sale: jan(dot)ottenhof (at) 
gmail.com 

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[RBW] Re: Back to work on the Custom

[lconley]

I ran across them in 2011 or 2012 and ordered this set in 2013. This will 
be the second set of wheel built with them. My first set on nice hubs, back 
in 72, were Campagnolo Tipos which were large flange with round holes and I 
have always had a soft spot for them as well as the whole "Drillium" thing.

Laing

On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 10:37:05 AM UTC-4, Ian A wrote:

> I have to admit, I had never heard of these beautiful hubs before. The 
> workmanship is extraordinary.
>
> I hope you don't me posting a link I found after Googling. 
> https://www.cognoscenti-cycles.com/blog/2017/2/21/curtis-odom
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Square Rivendell Road with S Couplers

[Robert Tilley]

  The top tube & seat tube lengths are equal.Robert TilleySan Diego, CA Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device   From: lyman.la...@gmail.comSent: August 18, 2020 8:17 AMTo: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comReply-to: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Square Rivendell Road with S Couplers  HiNice bike. I’m not familiar with the term “square” in  Bicycle frames. What is meant by that?ThanksOn Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:18 PM Karl  wrote:Maybe I am off... hmmm, what if I throw in a second Rivendell Road frame that is a 58 square and would be a great spandex machine! On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 5:08:12 PM UTC-5 Karl wrote:Thinning a bit. This one is collecting too much dust. XT Rear, Chorus front, Phil Wood wheels, S Couplers. Saddle can be included or will take $25 off without. Saddle bag not included. I bought this, but soon after bought a different Rivendell with S's. Pictures at https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B16GDdyTvGSqI5RWould like $2000 to me. Would LOVE local pickup, or a road trip... but can pack and ship for cost. KarlNashville, TN-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b98f549a-c2cf-42d5-9bdc-ee65db7fb30fn%40googlegroups.com.



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[RBW] Re: WTB: Looking for a few parts to finish putting together my first build

[Ray]

Oh I forgot to add that I'm also on the hunt for single or a pair of Paul 
motolites. That was really the long shot I was referring to. Thanks 
everyone.

On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 8:00:19 AM UTC-5 Ray wrote:

> Joe, I haven't had enough experience in this area to really have a strong 
> preference but would say 170 or 172.5 preferred. Open to 175 but 165 would 
> be too short. Let me know when it arrives and maybe it will work out!
>
> Thanks,
> Ray
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> On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 8:55:18 PM UTC-5 Drw wrote:
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>> SPACES**
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Square Rivendell Road with S Couplers

[Lyman Labry]

Hi
Nice bike. I’m not familiar with the term “square” in  Bicycle frames. What
is meant by that?
Thanks

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:18 PM Karl  wrote:

> Maybe I am off... hmmm, what if I throw in a second Rivendell Road frame
> that is a 58 square and would be a great spandex machine!
>
> On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 5:08:12 PM UTC-5 Karl wrote:
>
>> Thinning a bit. This one is collecting too much dust. XT Rear, Chorus
>> front, Phil Wood wheels, S Couplers. Saddle can be included or will take
>> $25 off without. Saddle bag not included. I bought this, but soon after
>> bought a different Rivendell with S's. Pictures at
>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B16GDdyTvGSqI5R
>>
>> Would like $2000 to me. Would LOVE local pickup, or a road trip... but
>> can pack and ship for cost.
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>> Karl
>> Nashville, TN
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[RBW] Back to work on the Custom

[Ian A]

I have to admit, I had never heard of these beautiful hubs before. The 
workmanship is extraordinary.

I hope you don't me posting a link I found after Googling. 
https://www.cognoscenti-cycles.com/blog/2017/2/21/curtis-odom

IanA Alberta Canada

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[RBW] VP 001 rebuild kit

[spencer robinson]

My older pair of VP “ThinGripsters brought me home with an annoying click 
the other day. I have determined that it is the drive side pedal as the 
noise is gone when I switch to a fairly new pair of Clem pedals. My 
question to the group is, does anyone know where I can find a rebuild kit? 
I don’t see anything at Rivendell or even Amazon. 
Then I was thinking, maybe just buy a new pair of Clems..might be cheaper..

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Small Chev or Clem L Riv for partner

[Karl]

John,

For some reason I cannot PM... I may have a Cheviot. 

Karl
Nash, TN

On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 7:36:42 PM UTC-5 John H. wrote:

> Hey Bunch -- This is a bit of a hail mary, but I figured I'd post and see 
> if anyone out there is looking to unload a small Riv. (complete preferred, 
> but I'd consider the right frame). Her PBH is about 76cm, which would put 
> the following models in range:
>
> Cheviot: 50 (55 might be a stretch)
> Clem L: 45/52
>
> I'm really kicking myself for missing the boat on the Clem L's and wish 
> that I'd have jumped on one when I could.
>
> Thanks
> John, 
> Cambridge, MA
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Re: [RBW] FS Nitto Saddlebag wire guard

[Cody Bartz]

Good to know Joe. I have one and works great from keeping my saddlebag off of 
my rear brake cable. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Looking for a few parts to finish putting together my first build

[Ray]

Joe, I haven't had enough experience in this area to really have a strong 
preference but would say 170 or 172.5 preferred. Open to 175 but 165 would 
be too short. Let me know when it arrives and maybe it will work out!

Thanks,
Ray

On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 8:55:18 PM UTC-5 Drw wrote:

> SPACES**

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: (Portland, time-sensitive) 650b 42cm

[David Johnston]

That is sad, looked like a cool shop, sad about Rivelo too. A cycling
renaissance seems to be one of the few bright spots during the
pandemic, but while I'm am stuck local I've been watching a bunch of
cycling destination videos dreaming of traveling again one day.

-Dave J

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Pancake]

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/belmont-2006-rivendell-rambouillet-650b/7179425356.html
Ram 2006
SFBay (Belmont)
$400 or $1600 depending on wheelset.
On Monday, 17 August 2020 at 16:36:30 UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Brand new Hillborne orange 51, sheesh! SF Bay Area. 
>
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> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/danville-rivendell-sam-hillborne-51cm/7179234888.html
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