Re: [RBW] Re: Need inspiration: Show me your wrapped handlebars, please?

['steve bishop' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks for replying Erik.Glad as a noob that I came up with something on the 
relative "rad-scale"!
Steve 


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  On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 at 22:52, Erik wrote:   ODI grips! 
 Oh, man...that takes me wy back to my early BMX bikes.  I can feel them 
just looking at your photo. 
And yes, those are the 710 Jones bars.  I've not tried the narrower version, 
but love these bars on the Appaloosa in its current configuration.  I was 
dubious about the width initially, but have come to appreciate the longer grip 
area.  And I really like the Discord w(Right) stems.  I have a 50mm on the 
Appaloosa and a 30mm on the Susie, both in the clear coat finish.  It looks 
particularly good with the clear coat Persuader bar.  Lots of raw steel! 
Erik 
On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 12:22:51 PM UTC-7 :

Hi Erik
Love all those bars...and need that stem!Is that the 710 Jones? I'm looking for 
anyone with experience of the 610.Below are my Nitto "Commuter Bars". 
Heat-treated nonetheless. Just grey tape and Amber shellac...but ODI BMX grips 
that I love.
Happy wrapping!
Steve


  



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Re: [RBW] Adventure Novels

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Hi
Steve (UK) here.
Touching the Void by Joe Simpson (non-fiction)
The film is gripping, true to the story and very realistic- the book is even 
better.
In 1985, two young climbers, Joe Simpson and Simon Yates, set out to be the 
first to reach the summit of the Siula Grande in the Peruvian Andes. They 
succeed, and the two embark on the treacherous descent down the mountain -- 
only to meet with disaster when Simpson breaks his leg in a fall, leaving Yates 
to lower him the rest of the way with ropes. When a storm threatens both their 
lives, Yates must decide whether to cut the rope and risk Simpson's likely 
death.
No spoilers here...the story is only just beginning!
Enjoy...
Steve 
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  On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 at 4:17, Michael Williams 
wrote:   Hey J,  Into the Wild is a good one( same author as Into thin Air).  
One of my all time faves is ‘ The Golden Spruce’.    -Mike

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Recently I noticed the book, The Long Walk, in a thread with a holiday flyer 
linked, or an older catalog maybe. I'm enjoying the true story. Years ago, I 
was at Bike, Book, & Hatchet and Grant recommended In the Heart of the Sea and 
a book about the Galveston hurricane. And one other I just remembered The Devil 
in the White City.
I've enjoyed reading most of these types of books, that involve 
adventure/danger/even death, like Into Thin Air.
Would anyone care to share any other novels that you'd recommend as the darker 
months loom?
Thanks!



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Re: [RBW] Adventure Novels

[Michael Williams]

Hey J,  Into the Wild is a good one( same author as Into thin Air).  One of my 
all time faves is ‘ The Golden Spruce’.-Mike

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> On Oct 24, 2021, at 7:15 PM, J Imler  wrote:
> 
> Recently I noticed the book, The Long Walk, in a thread with a holiday flyer 
> linked, or an older catalog maybe. I'm enjoying the true story. Years ago, I 
> was at Bike, Book, & Hatchet and Grant recommended In the Heart of the Sea 
> and a book about the Galveston hurricane. And one other I just remembered The 
> Devil in the White City.
> 
> I've enjoyed reading most of these types of books, that involve 
> adventure/danger/even death, like Into Thin Air.
> 
> Would anyone care to share any other novels that you'd recommend as the 
> darker months loom?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Canti Levers New in Box

[Birdman]

SOLD. Thanks all

On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 5:27:20 PM UTC-7 Birdman wrote:

> Hi bunch, 
>
> I have a pair of Paul Canti Levers in silver for sale. These are new and 
> in the unopened box. 
>
> I purchased these from an online retailer a few weeks ago for a project 
> that fell through. It's too late to return them, so I'm offering them to 
> the group.
>
> I'm asking $140 Shipped CONUS (that's net to me)
>
> Send me a PM if you're interested and I can send you some photos.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Isaac
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[RBW] Adventure Novels

[J Imler]

Recently I noticed the book, *The Long Walk*, in a thread with a holiday 
flyer linked, or an older catalog maybe. I'm enjoying the true story. Years 
ago, I was at Bike, Book, & Hatchet and Grant recommended *In the Heart of 
the Sea* and a book about the Galveston hurricane. And one other I just 
remembered *The Devil in the White City*.

I've enjoyed reading most of these types of books, that involve 
adventure/danger/even death, like *Into Thin Air*.

Would anyone care to share any other novels that you'd recommend as the 
darker months loom?

Thanks!


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Re: [RBW] Max tire on the MIT Atlantis

[Michael Williams]

Yes Hugh,  700c in the 59cm MIT Atlantis

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> On Oct 24, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Your Atlantis takes 700c correct?
> 
> Hugh
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, 1:20 PM Michael Williams  
>> wrote:
>> Hey Hugh,   I’ve run 2.35 Racing Ralphs on my 59 MIT Atlantis, no fender.   
>> Could do a 2.25 w/ fender.-Mike
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Erik  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I ran 2.2 Continental Trail Kings on the 53.  They fit just fine without 
>>> any rubbing or chainline interference.  The 2.35 max James indicated tracks 
>>> with my experience!
>>> 
>>> Erik 
>>> 
 On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 10:36:15 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
 Thanks! G1 is a micro knob so makes sense. I just calipered my Atlantis, 
 so your tire and size jives.
 
 Hugh n LA
 
> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 10:32 PM Applegate  wrote:
 
> Hi Hugh,
> I was able to get 700c x 60mm/2.35" G-One Speed tires mounted to 
> Cliffhanger rims on my MIT 55cm with no chainline interference. Even put 
> a Simworks x Nitto Flat 65 fender over it.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Saturday, 23 October 2021 at 19:09:57 UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>> I should have been more specific, I have a 53cm, so 650b x largest size 
>> anyone has been successful with.
>> 
>> Hugh n LA
>> 
>>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 6:29 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>> 
>>> This here is a call out to those with an MIT Atlantis.
>>> 
>>> What's the largest MTB tire you've successfully squeezed on the old 
>>> girl? Looking to put some meat on the Atlantis, 2.4 would be ideal but 
>>> I notice the Rivendell Geo chart has 2.2 as the max. James at Riv said 
>>> 2.35" so figured I'd ask current owners.
>>> 
>>> TIA,
>>> 
>>> Hugh n LA
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[RBW] FS: Paul Canti Levers New in Box

[Birdman]

Hi bunch, 

I have a pair of Paul Canti Levers in silver for sale. These are new and in 
the unopened box. 

I purchased these from an online retailer a few weeks ago for a project 
that fell through. It's too late to return them, so I'm offering them to 
the group.

I'm asking $140 Shipped CONUS (that's net to me)

Send me a PM if you're interested and I can send you some photos.

Cheers,

Isaac

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: Nitto/Rivendell RBW52F Basket Rack

[Jared Wilson]

Back on the hunt for a Nitto/Rivendell RBW52F Basket Rack, please respond 
off list if you have one available.

I have a Marks Rack to offer as partial trade if that means anything to 
you, or it will be for sale when the Basket Rack is acquired.

Thanks :)

Jared in SLO

On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 12:32:07 PM UTC-8 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Correction, group member Jeffery is gonna get Huston's RBW52F.
>
> Congrats Jeffery!
>
> -Jared
>
> On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 11:31:24 AM UTC-8 Jared Wilson wrote:
>
>> Thank you all for reaching out!
>>
>> I bit the bullet and ordered a Pass and Stow 5 Rail for my Susie.
>>
>> I'm also in contact with Huston about the RBW52F for another build we're 
>> working on, lets see what happens!
>>
>> -Jared
>>
>> On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 2:38:15 PM UTC-8 Jeremy Simon wrote:
>>
>>> If you're interested in David's recommendation I have I'm not using I'd 
>>> be happy to pass along. Only caveat is I'm in the Bay Area and the 
>>> dimensions mean it would be probably not worth it to ship. It is a 
>>> fantastic rack.
>>>
>>> Jeremy in Oakland
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 12:45:44 PM UTC-8 Hetchins52 wrote:
>>>
 You might consider this SOMA rack. May be bigger than you want, but way 
 cheaper.
 >  https://www.perennialcycle.com/porteur-rack-deluxe-stnless.html
 Good price at about $115 with shipping. 
 Or, the same but not stainless. $20 less. --
 >  https://www.perennialcycle.com/porteur-rack.html
 Either give more attachment points (5) than the Nitto (3).

 David (I have, and like, the 52F) Lipsky
 Berkeley, CA

 On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 7:07:56 PM UTC-8 duh...@gmail.com wrote:

> Howdy
>
> Looking for a Nitto RBW52F Basket Rack
>
> Let me know if you have one you wouldn't mind rehoming
>
> Thanks
>
> Jared
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[RBW] Re: FS Surly Long Haul trucker

[Andrew Huston]

That was a color but I believe for the first gen midnight special. 


On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 7:08:25 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> I might be trippin' but I think Surly called this color Hot Mayonnaise. 
>
> On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 3:37:47 PM UTC-4 Andrew Huston wrote:
>
>> I managed to get a green which I am very excited for. Your web special 
>> looks killer with this big tires!
>>
>> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 1:53:00 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Congrats Andrew on the Clem purchase. Which color did you select? 
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 11:57:20 AM UTC-4 Andrew Huston wrote:
>>>
 I was looking for an all around type bike and happened to find a NOS 54 
 LHT. While it was being packed and shipped I got in on the Clem Lotto and 
 was fortunate to snag a complete. I definitely do not need both now and 
 looking to sell. Box is packed and ready to you out. I paid $1500 total 
 and 
 I’d like to not take a bath so asking same-ish considering shipping etc. 
 discontinued model at this point. Don’t have a photo due to being boxed so 
 please use google to see images. Build is as follows


- Shimano 3 x 9 drivetrain bar-end shifters LX hubs and rear 
derailleur
- 100% Surly 4130 chromoly steel. Main triangle double butted. Fork 
is lugged and brazed
- Tektro CR720 canti brakes and Michelin City 26 x 1.85" tires
- Microshift  bar end shifters 



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[RBW] Re: FS Surly Long Haul trucker

[Eric Marth]

I might be trippin' but I think Surly called this color Hot Mayonnaise. 

On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 3:37:47 PM UTC-4 Andrew Huston wrote:

> I managed to get a green which I am very excited for. Your web special 
> looks killer with this big tires!
>
> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 1:53:00 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Congrats Andrew on the Clem purchase. Which color did you select? 
>> Doug
>>
>> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 11:57:20 AM UTC-4 Andrew Huston wrote:
>>
>>> I was looking for an all around type bike and happened to find a NOS 54 
>>> LHT. While it was being packed and shipped I got in on the Clem Lotto and 
>>> was fortunate to snag a complete. I definitely do not need both now and 
>>> looking to sell. Box is packed and ready to you out. I paid $1500 total and 
>>> I’d like to not take a bath so asking same-ish considering shipping etc. 
>>> discontinued model at this point. Don’t have a photo due to being boxed so 
>>> please use google to see images. Build is as follows
>>>
>>>
>>>- Shimano 3 x 9 drivetrain bar-end shifters LX hubs and rear 
>>>derailleur
>>>- 100% Surly 4130 chromoly steel. Main triangle double butted. Fork 
>>>is lugged and brazed
>>>- Tektro CR720 canti brakes and Michelin City 26 x 1.85" tires
>>>- Microshift  bar end shifters 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: IRD QB55 bottom bracket, 68x107

[Eric Marth]

And SOLD, thank you!

On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 3:58:07 PM UTC-4 divis...@gmail.com wrote:

> FYI: This is the model SOMA/Merry Sales recommends for threading switches. 
> They sell Italian, French and Swiss-threaded cups for their Quad and 
> Defiant sealed bearing BBs, as well as British-threaded cups for 73mm wide 
> shells. The replacement cups fit on all the described BBs, but SOMA says 
> "If you plan to swap in IRD Italian/French conversion cups, it is more 
> economical to buy the QB-55, than the QB-75.".
>
> Think of it as a modernized version of the Shimano UN-xx bottom brackets 
> with two removable cups, which you can fit with Phil Wood cups to fit your 
> BB threading.
>
>
> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/ird-bottom-bracket-conversion-cups-pair-2839?category=967
>
> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/28819-ird-bottom-bracket-73mm-converter-washer-pair-2538?category=967
>
> Peter Adler
> Berkeley, CA/USA
>
> On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 9:42:51 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Installed with cranks, never ridden, zero miles. 
>>
>> $30 shipped CONUS. PayPal Friends and/or Family. 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Max tire on the MIT Atlantis

[Hugh Smitham]

Hi Michael,

Your Atlantis takes 700c correct?

Hugh

On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, 1:20 PM Michael Williams 
wrote:

> Hey Hugh,   I’ve run 2.35 Racing Ralphs on my 59 MIT Atlantis, no fender.
>   Could do a 2.25 w/ fender.-Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 24, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Erik  wrote:
>
> I ran 2.2 Continental Trail Kings on the 53.  They fit just fine without
> any rubbing or chainline interference.  The 2.35 max James indicated tracks
> with my experience!
>
> Erik
>
> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 10:36:15 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Thanks! G1 is a micro knob so makes sense. I just calipered my Atlantis,
>> so your tire and size jives.
>>
>> Hugh n LA
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 10:32 PM Applegate  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Hugh,
>>> I was able to get 700c x 60mm/2.35" G-One Speed tires mounted to
>>> Cliffhanger rims on my MIT 55cm with no chainline interference. Even put a
>>> Simworks x Nitto Flat 65 fender over it.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_2347.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 23 October 2021 at 19:09:57 UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
 I should have been more specific, I have a 53cm, so 650b x largest size
 anyone has been successful with.

 Hugh n LA

 On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 6:29 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> This here is a call out to those with an MIT Atlantis.
>
> What's the largest MTB tire you've successfully squeezed on the old
> girl? Looking to put some meat on the Atlantis, 2.4 would be ideal but I
> notice the Rivendell Geo chart has 2.2 as the max. James at Riv said 2.35"
> so figured I'd ask current owners.
>
> TIA,
>
> Hugh n LA
>
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Re: [RBW] Max tire on the MIT Atlantis

[Hugh Smitham]

Hi Erik,

Thanks! I wanted to run some Rene Herse 27.5″ x 2.2″ (650B x 55) Umtanum
Ridge TC Tire but seems that's not in the cards. I'm leaning towards the
bontrager XR3s in a 2.2" I appreciate the confirmation.

Hugh

On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, 1:08 PM Erik  wrote:

> I ran 2.2 Continental Trail Kings on the 53.  They fit just fine without
> any rubbing or chainline interference.  The 2.35 max James indicated tracks
> with my experience!
>
> Erik
>
> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 10:36:15 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Thanks! G1 is a micro knob so makes sense. I just calipered my Atlantis,
>> so your tire and size jives.
>>
>> Hugh n LA
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 10:32 PM Applegate  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Hugh,
>>> I was able to get 700c x 60mm/2.35" G-One Speed tires mounted to
>>> Cliffhanger rims on my MIT 55cm with no chainline interference. Even put a
>>> Simworks x Nitto Flat 65 fender over it.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_2347.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 23 October 2021 at 19:09:57 UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
 I should have been more specific, I have a 53cm, so 650b x largest size
 anyone has been successful with.

 Hugh n LA

 On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 6:29 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> This here is a call out to those with an MIT Atlantis.
>
> What's the largest MTB tire you've successfully squeezed on the old
> girl? Looking to put some meat on the Atlantis, 2.4 would be ideal but I
> notice the Rivendell Geo chart has 2.2 as the max. James at Riv said 2.35"
> so figured I'd ask current owners.
>
> TIA,
>
> Hugh n LA
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[RBW] Worth spending a few hundred on new, tubeless-designed rims and wheel builds?

[Patrick Moore]

This question did not generate much response on the iBoblist, and perhaps
the RBW-listers will be more forthcoming.

My question put simply is this: Will my "non-tubeless-but-adapted-(with
multiple wraps of Stan's tape)-rims* work well enough in the long term for
a tubeless (Naches Pass) setup, or is it worth paying a few hundred to buy
some 26" Stan's 355 rims and have the wheels rebuilt. Note that in my
fretful anxiety I always stock up on at least an extra pair of rims for any
given wheelset. (I know that you blithely don't fret like that, but I do,
so include this in the cost.)

Background: After a couple of false starts, the multiple wraps of Stan's
tape on my non-tubeless Sun Ringle EQ 21 rims seem to be keeping the
tubeless Naches Pass tires in place well enough, by the crucial test: *do
the beads stay in place when you let out the air.* And other experienced
riders have said that their similar setups (non-tubeless rims, tubeless tires,
lots of rim tape) work just fine on the long term.

I've heard from riders experienced with "adapted" tube rims that enough
Stan's tape will keep you securely and happily riding tubeless into your
declining years. Others opine that you are just waiting for a burp.

I've got a lifetime's stash of EQ 21s with which the NP wheelset is built,
so the cost of a "yes" answer is probably about $600. I don't build my own
wheels, more's the pity, and one day I might, but for now, include the cost
of building 2 wheels. (I have built 1 ss speed 36 hole wheel which was
trouble free for 1,000s of miles, but I don't have the patience to do it
regularly.)

So ...? Whatddya think?

Moreover: I've read about the apparently currently available
tubeless-designed Velocity A23s and the Stan's 355s, both claimed sub 400
grams and 24 mm exterior width. I've also heard that the brake tracks on
the A23s are too short -- or something that makes them troublesome.
Opinions about either rim? Are there other 26" rim brake tubeless rims on
the market besides the Velocity's and the Stans's?

Thanks.

Patrick Moore, who is gonna real soon test a 1" lighweight tube with lots
and lots of OS regular in a 42 mm Naches Pass tire against thorn punctures.
(Will report. Think it might work with at least 3, perhaps even 4 fl oz of
OS regular. I am tube-tire-width-alignment-skeptical.)

PS: For years I asserted that OS does not work in tubed tires at pressures
much under 50 psi; let's say 40 psi is the cutoff. But! The reason may have
been my stinginess with sealant; I generally have been successful against
goatheads with 2 fl oz of OS Endurance in 700X70 mm tubeless tires.

But! I had problems adapting non-tubeless Alex rims to tubeless WTB Rangers
-- the beads would not stay put -- even when I wearily tried, failed,
disassembled, and added serially more layers yet of Stan's tape -- so I
gave up and installed a tube in the rear, where a hole would not seal. I
glugged in full 4 fl oz of OS regular. Lo and behold, in this annus
terribilis year of bountiful goatheads, no rear flat yet after some months.
(The front tire remains tubeless and the bead remains docile, for some
reason.)

I was encouraged by this by a bike shop clerk who told me that Stan's or OS
in his sub 15 psi Fat Bike tubes has worked fine for years.

There you go.

* Someone complained about my header using the standard term, "Ghetto
tubeless," on the iBoblist. My reactive feelings were mixed. OTOH, chill.
OTOH, I do think it a silly term. I weighed both thoughts in the balance
and decided to forego the term. What do you (pl) think? For the record, I
am a half breed or mestizo of fully 2 colors who grew up among brown and
black folk and married a yellow wife.


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Re: [RBW] FS Clem L 52

[Eric Floden]

I am not seeing the location.

EricF
Vancouver

On Sunday, 24 October 2021, Andrew Huston 
wrote:
>
So
in a turn of events, my wife is deciding she doesn’t ride enough for her to
keep this newly built Clem. Given those feelings and the limited quantity
of these bikes, i can release this and hopefully give someone else a shot
at one. I had purchased a green Clem in the lotto and what I plan to do is
swap a few parts to essentially offer the same spec Riv is offering.
> PM if you are interested and we can discuss details. I expect cost will
be about what riv is offering now, roughly.
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[RBW] WTB: Two Mark's Racks

[Nikko in Oakland]

Trying to do a double Mark's Racks 
 on my Hunq! I 
need some rear support and I'd like to replace my existing front rack (Flat 
Pack Rack) because of a funny fork crown mount situation. Anybody holding?

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Re: [RBW] WTB / ISO - A. Homer Hilsen, 58cm

[jro]

Bump

I’m still on the lookout for an A. Homer Hilsen (58-61cm - appropriate for 
87 pbh).

If you happen to have one you’re willing to part with, please let me know.

A couple interesting opportunities have come up, but I remain hopeful that 
I might find a used AHH.


Thanks for reading!


Jason

Oak Park, IL
On Sunday, October 17, 2021 at 4:36:16 PM UTC-5 jro wrote:

> Mathieu, Eric, and Ryan - thanks for the feedback so far.
>
>
> @Mathieu - Totally agreed - the AHH at Mack’s was in all ways a dreamy 
> bike and a joy to ride. It was listed as 61.5cm, and by the book was really 
> close to fitting my PBH (87). It felt just a slight bit tall for me, but I 
> debated buying it anyways. In the end, I decided to hold out for something 
> that feels 100% natural. I’m finding that my particular PBH is transitional 
> for many of the Riv frames and could go either up or down a size. Thanks 
> for mentioning the San Marcos at Mack’s - definitely worth a shot to check 
> if it fits.
>
>
> @Eric - Cheers!
>
>
> @John - The Hillborne posted a couple days back is a beaut’. Somehow I’ve 
> become intent on a blue frame, which the AHHs seem to consistently feature, 
> so I’m holding out for one for now. Since initially posting this, I’ve been 
> in contact with a former Riv dealer who has a nice grey/blue SH in a close 
> size, which I’m hoping might work out... Thanks for the note.
>
>
> Jason
>
> Oak Park, IL
>
> On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 9:56:08 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey, Jason
>>
>> While it's not an AHH, maybe the gold  57 Sam Hilllborne  someone posted 
>> today  is worth a look. Nice looking frame and it's a great colour. But if 
>> that's not an option, good luck with your search!
>> On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 6:24:18 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Best of luck with your search, Jason. I'm glad the scans have been 
>>> helpful!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 2:20:47 PM UTC-4 mathie...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Good afternoon Jason,

 I got a chance to ride that same AHH over at Mack’s and had the 
 opposite problem - the bike rode like an absolute dream but was just a 
 little too small for me.

 Which unfortunately means that anything in my stable would also be a 
 little large for you.

 I think that AHH was a 61cm which would make it the same size as the 
 bike that just got posted up for sale but it might be worth chatting with 
 the owner.

 Go Huskies!

 Mathieu Brown

 Sent from my iPhone.

 On Oct 16, 2021, at 11:08 AM, jro  wrote:

 

 Hi Riv’ers,

 I post this in hopes someone in the RBWOB might have a sadly unused AHH 
 in their stable, wishing to find a new Home for their Homer.

 I’m looking for a size 58cm or thereabouts (appropriate for an 87.3 
 PBH). A frameset would be preferred, but a built up bike would also be 
 great. If you have one you’re willing to give up, please let me know!


 The RWB Owners Bunch has been a resoundingly useful resource since I’ve 
 gone from admiring these beautiful bikes from a distance for some time to 
 finding myself in the market to own one. Eric and Reed’s cataloguing of 
 past Rivendell Readers and literature has been valuable in helping get an 
 understanding of the history of these fine bikes and the ideas behind 
 them. 
 Mack’s Bike and Goods in Evanston, IL turned me on to this group after I 
 test rode a Riv in their shop recently that was, unfortunately, slightly 
 too big. I’m happy they did so.

 If I’m unable to locate a used one, I’ll likely be entering the lotto 
 for one of the new ones released later this year (or however the Walnut 
 Creekers decide to to release after the Clem Ls). I’ve also had an eye on 
 the “used” threads to see if one might come up eventually. At any rate, 
 glad to have found this community and thanks for reading.


 Jason

 Oak Park, IL

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Re: [RBW] Max tire on the MIT Atlantis

[Michael Williams]

Hey Hugh,   I’ve run 2.35 Racing Ralphs on my 59 MIT Atlantis, no fender.   
Could do a 2.25 w/ fender.-Mike

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> On Oct 24, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Erik  wrote:
> 
> I ran 2.2 Continental Trail Kings on the 53.  They fit just fine without any 
> rubbing or chainline interference.  The 2.35 max James indicated tracks with 
> my experience!
> 
> Erik 
> 
>> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 10:36:15 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>> Thanks! G1 is a micro knob so makes sense. I just calipered my Atlantis, so 
>> your tire and size jives.
>> 
>> Hugh n LA
>> 
>>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 10:32 PM Applegate  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Hugh,
>>> I was able to get 700c x 60mm/2.35" G-One Speed tires mounted to 
>>> Cliffhanger rims on my MIT 55cm with no chainline interference. Even put a 
>>> Simworks x Nitto Flat 65 fender over it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Saturday, 23 October 2021 at 19:09:57 UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
 I should have been more specific, I have a 53cm, so 650b x largest size 
 anyone has been successful with.
 
 Hugh n LA
 
> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 6:29 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:
 
> This here is a call out to those with an MIT Atlantis.
> 
> What's the largest MTB tire you've successfully squeezed on the old girl? 
> Looking to put some meat on the Atlantis, 2.4 would be ideal but I notice 
> the Rivendell Geo chart has 2.2 as the max. James at Riv said 2.35" so 
> figured I'd ask current owners.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Hugh n LA
 
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Re: [RBW] Max tire on the MIT Atlantis

[Erik]

I ran 2.2 Continental Trail Kings on the 53.  They fit just fine without 
any rubbing or chainline interference.  The 2.35 max James indicated tracks 
with my experience!

Erik 

On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 10:36:15 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Thanks! G1 is a micro knob so makes sense. I just calipered my Atlantis, 
> so your tire and size jives.
>
> Hugh n LA
>
> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 10:32 PM Applegate  wrote:
>
>> Hi Hugh,
>> I was able to get 700c x 60mm/2.35" G-One Speed tires mounted to 
>> Cliffhanger rims on my MIT 55cm with no chainline interference. Even put a 
>> Simworks x Nitto Flat 65 fender over it.
>>
>> [image: IMG_2347.jpeg]
>>
>> On Saturday, 23 October 2021 at 19:09:57 UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> I should have been more specific, I have a 53cm, so 650b x largest size 
>>> anyone has been successful with.
>>>
>>> Hugh n LA
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 6:29 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>>>
 This here is a call out to those with an MIT Atlantis.

 What's the largest MTB tire you've successfully squeezed on the old 
 girl? Looking to put some meat on the Atlantis, 2.4 would be ideal but I 
 notice the Rivendell Geo chart has 2.2 as the max. James at Riv said 2.35" 
 so figured I'd ask current owners.

 TIA,

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Re: [RBW] Re: Need inspiration: Show me your wrapped handlebars, please?

[Erik]

ODI grips!  Oh, man...that takes me wy back to my early BMX bikes.  I 
can feel them just looking at your photo. 

And yes, those are the 710 Jones bars.  I've not tried the narrower 
version, but love these bars on the Appaloosa in its current configuration. 
 I was dubious about the width initially, but have come to appreciate the 
longer grip area.  And I really like the Discord w(Right) stems.  I have a 
50mm on the Appaloosa and a 30mm on the Susie, both in the clear coat 
finish.  It looks particularly good with the clear coat Persuader bar. 
 Lots of raw steel! 

Erik 

On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 12:22:51 PM UTC-7 :

> Hi Erik
>
> Love all those bars...and need that stem!
> Is that the 710 Jones? I'm looking for anyone with experience of the 610.
> Below are my Nitto "Commuter Bars". Heat-treated nonetheless. Just grey 
> tape and Amber shellac...but ODI BMX grips that I love.
>
> Happy wrapping!
>
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>
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[RBW] Re: FS Surly Long Haul trucker

[Andrew Huston]

I managed to get a green which I am very excited for. Your web special 
looks killer with this big tires!

On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 1:53:00 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> Congrats Andrew on the Clem purchase. Which color did you select? 
> Doug
>
> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 11:57:20 AM UTC-4 Andrew Huston wrote:
>
>> I was looking for an all around type bike and happened to find a NOS 54 
>> LHT. While it was being packed and shipped I got in on the Clem Lotto and 
>> was fortunate to snag a complete. I definitely do not need both now and 
>> looking to sell. Box is packed and ready to you out. I paid $1500 total and 
>> I’d like to not take a bath so asking same-ish considering shipping etc. 
>> discontinued model at this point. Don’t have a photo due to being boxed so 
>> please use google to see images. Build is as follows
>>
>>
>>- Shimano 3 x 9 drivetrain bar-end shifters LX hubs and rear 
>>derailleur
>>- 100% Surly 4130 chromoly steel. Main triangle double butted. Fork 
>>is lugged and brazed
>>- Tektro CR720 canti brakes and Michelin City 26 x 1.85" tires
>>- Microshift  bar end shifters 
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Two Cetma 5-rail front racks

[Michael Ullmer]

Older Cetma is sold, newer is still available.

On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 3:44:07 PM UTC-7 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Weekend bump with price drops:
>
> 1) Newer version 5-rail - $85 shipped CONUS
>
> 2)  Older version 5-rail - $70 shipped CONUS
>
> On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 9:18:46 AM UTC-7 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Cross-posted from the i-bob list:
>>
>> Two Cetma racks for sale that I've been hoarding for a while. I recently 
>> picked up a Crust Clydesdale and don't anticipate using these on my 
>> commuter anytime soon. These are currently sold out on the Cetma website.
>>
>> 1) Newer version 5-rail - $90 shipped CONUS
>> --This is the current design which has the mounting holes attached to the 
>> bottom of the platform and has straight stays. A few nicks here and there. 
>> Comes with mounting hardware and two brackets you can use if your 
>> handlebars are very high (which mine were). 
>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/rgSk5eb5wh2wYdF58
>>
>> 2) Older version 5-rail - $80 shipped CONUS
>> --This is the older design that used p clamps to attach the stays to the 
>> rack. It also has bent stays rather than straight. From the side, it looks 
>> like it's been bent in slightly so that the back/platform aren't completely 
>> at a 90 degree angle. It was like that when I got it, so not sure if it was 
>> welded together like that or bent. It didn't affect function for me. Comes 
>> with older style Wald mounting hardware and the aforementioned brackets to 
>> use if your handlebars are very high. 
>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/GP3KLWHTkKJSVVGL8
>>
>> PM off-list, thanks!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Need inspiration: Show me your wrapped handlebars, please?

[Erik]

These aren't complicated wrapping patterns at all, but I like to mess 
around with new color combinations and wraps on a regular basis.  A good 
source of interesting color combinations are plaid patterns.  You can find 
a lot of interesting color combinations / harmonies / contrasts in those 
patterns.

These are the current iterations on my Rivs.  First photo is my orange 
Appaloosa - light gray, yellow, lime green with a custom mix of amber and 
clear shellac, also Campandgoslow western diamondback tape on Jones H-loop. 
Second photo is my Susie / Wolbis: light gray and yellow with clear shellac 
on Persuader bars.  Third is my Atlantis: chocolate, yellow, burnt orange, 
dark gray with mostly clear shellac on Albatross bars. 

I'm also starting to mess around with colored shellac.  I discovered that I 
can use shellac-based drawing inks to successfully color clear shellac into 
whatever color or hue my heart desires.  It opens up a lot of interesting 
possibilities.  I should probably be putting this time and effort into my 
actual artwork! 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/n3Rf14n4AroGzR3x9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/4h8BKXu8t1qFV3qP9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vKqmq2Fbs8wedUJu8

Erik

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[CapNMike]

Mike, I love the photos and your Atlantis build. I have a Waterford 
Atlantis and hoping to add metal fenders. Can you share the size of your 
fenders and tires?  I'm currently running 700x55 tires and clearance 
doesn't allow fenders.

Cheers,

Mike

On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 2:40:38 PM UTC-4 Mike Godwin wrote:

> Howdy
> here are a few of mine, a side view riding locally, and two from El Paso 
> Mts, with a flat repair at Sheep Springs. My first foot down from the bike 
> to fix the flat was right next to a rattlesnake. I have a habit of finding 
> them that way. 
>
> Mike SLO CA
> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 10:50:58 AM UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:
>
>> I love the russian submarine green paint of the atlantis and i also love 
>> seeing them in other colors.
>> That gray one is great. I think the dull bronze pieces match wonderfully.
>> Fantastic root beer paint. Maybe my favorite bike color, or brown in 
>> general.
>> I too saw that lilac one hanging in rafters in a garage/workspace post.
>>
>> Here's my 58 cm Toyo. I love it for the curved chainstays. I think I was 
>> emailing with Doug P and he pointed that out to me. Doug, I'm finally 
>> riding it. 
>> 2 x 11 drivetrain. I could probably do without the 11 speed cassette. I 
>> stupidly thought it needed to match the clutch rear derailer, but derailers 
>> aren't indexed.
>> Favorite part: the clearance. Its why I got the bike. I wish it had more 
>> and wheelsize was 650b. 
>> I also really love the Simworks Stealth seatpost. Traded a friend for it. 
>> He is generous.
>>
>> I need to fine tune the cables/housing, put on the dyno lights, the put 
>> up a post. A bag up front too ...
>> So far I like the Bullmoose bars. I think they are very appropriate for 
>> the Atlantis.
>> I just remounted the 29 x 2.2" Maxxis Ikons on it yesterday and I hope 
>> thats it. Tubeless.
>> I was riding it with 42 mm Soma Shikoros and it felt zippy. But it didn't 
>> feel right to not have wider tires on this bike.
>> Maybe a 2"/50cm commuter tire/wheelset for would be nice.
>>
>> -Matthew P
>> San Diego, CA. Kumeyaay Land.
>>
>> [image: IMG_20211013_181057.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 7:20:56 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> That was quick! Looks good Erik. Nice backdrop too 
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM Erik  wrote:
>>>
 Photos from this evening's inaugural ride on a new-to-me 56cm 650b 
 Atlantis.  This replaced my 53cm.  The fit is much, much better but the 
 build is pretty much the same as the previous bike.

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[RBW] FS:Schwalbe 27.5x2.80 G One Allround tires RG

['hobie' via RBW Owners Bunch]

2-Schwalbe G-One Allround Performance RaceGuard  27.5+ x 2.80 Tubeless 
Folding Tires. Purchased new and used this past summer on mixed surfaces. 
Overall very good condition. A little dirty. Ran them tubeless so some 
residual sealant inside tires. PM me for pictures. $85.00 shipped US lower 
48. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Need inspiration: Show me your wrapped handlebars, please?

[Pancake]

I’m planning to do the four color wrap, but it wasn’t too easy to find 
directions online, here are my notes from a search last month:

The best directions:
https://imgur.com/a/lGGeb

>From Flickr, "that appears to be a 4-tape weave" here 

1 White
1 Black
2 Orange

Yes; just tried it. The two same-colored strands (orange in this case) go 
parallel, and the accent colors (white and black here) go antiparallel to 
the orange (and parallel to each other). It's an over-under-over-under 
weave--each strand takes that course.

Actually believe it or not, it's simpler to make look good than the normal 
2-strand 2-color variety, because since each strand does not wrap next to 
itself on the next revolution, you can use more of an angle to the bar, 
producing a nicer diamond shape, and all colors have nice even diamonds. I 
think it doesn't even cost as much more as one might think (assuming you 
get a roll size of at least 8 or 9 feet) because each strand covers almost 
twice the bar as on the two-strand variety, so you only have to buy *1* of 
each color and then you cut the main color (orange here) in half to obtain 
the necessary two strands per side.

In fact this weave is so much nicer than the 2-strand variety, I would 
recommend using it even for a two-color harlequin, using two strands of 
each color. AND, for a sparser (perhaps less garish) look, you can do 3 
strands of one color and 1 strand of the accent, producing few more widely 
spaced accent diamonds.

See post #13 here 

:

2 color video :

Good examples and directions on 2 color tape and starting 
:

Another good 2 color tape guide 


On Saturday, 23 October 2021 at 16:25:08 UTC-7 Tom M wrote:

> [image: 65076308421__991D1118-34A0-4AB4-BB1D-ED920F9167B7.jpeg]
> Velo Orange tape on my single speed. Very cushy and pretty easy to wrap.
> Tom in Alexandria, VA
> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 6:34:14 PM UTC-4 kwi...@weimar.edu wrote:
>
>> How do you guys keep the bar tape so clean?  
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 5:50 AM lconley  wrote:
>>
>>> My two tone blue on drops - my first attempt at harlequin wrapping. Not 
>>> the best picture, but the only one that I have.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_1754 (2).JPG]
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 8:39:40 AM UTC-4 sof...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I've enjoyed the newbaum cotton wrapped handlebars on my platy so much 
 that I am going get them on my riv blue clem! Anyone care to share pics of 
 yours? Looking for some color inspo (i.e. wavering between something 
 elegant and subdued like dark blue, grey, or brown -- to something more 
 striking like orange or even hot pink).
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