Re: [RBW] Custom frame bag for Gus

[brendonoid]

So great, I want one!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

[Jeff B]

As an aside to what modern bike Jobst might ride, here are some photos of 
Jobst's bike at the US Bicycling Hall of Fame in Davis, CA. I'm not sure if 
this was his final or second to last bike. I don't know if it is still 
there and having it hanging from the ceiling makes it hard to photograph 
and inspect but still very cool to see in person.
Jobst's Bike 

Jeff Burke
Woodland, CA

On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 2:11:00 PM UTC-8 divis...@gmail.com wrote:

> Not yet. I've gotten at least three email notifications this year that 
> closure was imminent (*buy up now while you can*).
>
> A note: On several occasions in the past year, John has posted sales with 
> 10%/15%/20% off all remaining items. The alleged discount does not appear 
> online, but is supposed to be applied in the shopping basket at checkout. 
> I've jumped in for two of these sales, and no general discount was applied 
> to my shopping basket, using Safari 14/macOS. I don't know what browser his 
> shopping mechanism is keyed to; I'm guessing it's Google Chrome. I don't 
> know whether the discounted prices work with any browser at all.
>
> I could have phoned him and complained about it, but it felt petty. I like 
> the stuff I bought, but it still sticks in my craw that I paid more than I 
> was promised. If I order any of the scraps, I think I'm just going to phone 
> the order in.
>
> Peter "aggressive shopping is a contact sport" Adler
> Berkeley, CA/USA
>
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 4:16:50 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks, Kim, but while the website is still up I thought John Kucharik 
> closed up shop and liquidated their inventory sometime in 2021 or 2022. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Pedal Question

[Greg J]

SPDs are ubiquitous, and you can find them for nearly free (for example, I 
have a couple of old but functional sets that I can send at cost, but I 
have no spare cleats).  If you like them generally, but find that they are 
lacking in some respect, then you can try the variations on the theme 
(eggbeaters, speedplay, road pedals, time, etc.), which all try to address 
some aspect of the clipless systems (float, platform size, weight, release 
mechanism, etc.).  Or if you decide that they're not worth the hype, then 
there you go.

Greg
Oakland CA

On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 7:19:57 PM UTC-8 Philip Williamson wrote:

> I'm also Team Platform, and would recommend SPDs for a beginner into the 
> clipless pedal world. 
> I did ride Eggbeaters for several years, and made skateboard pedal decks 
> to turn them into platforms. It turned out I never ever rode without them, 
> so I just bought some platform pedals and donated or sold my eggbeaters. 
> One set of skatedecks is hanging above my tool bench as a "hey I did that," 
> but I'm not interested in riding clipless. If my riding changes to big 
> jumps offroad, I'd revisit SPDs. 
>
> Philip 
> Sonoma County, Calif 
>
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 10:05:09 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> Platforms > clipless IMO. I’ve ridden both and like less hassle and fewer 
>> impediments to hopping on a bike. Should you not wish to listen to a 
>> stranger on the Internet and wish to go full steam ahead, I suggest SPDs 
>> especially since, were one to break out on the road, replacement cleats or 
>> screws are readily available at most LBSs. Many other clipless pedal 
>> options are not. 
>>
>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:46:09 AM UTC-8 Josiah Anderson wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Ted, clipless pedals are not useful for most of the riding 
>>> I do. That riding consists of commuting, trail riding, long and fast-ish 
>>> road rides, and both paved and off-road touring. The only time I still use 
>>> clipless pedals is for racing (which I do just a little of); platforms are 
>>> much better the rest of the time. Maybe I don't care about foot attachment 
>>> as much as some people, considering that I'm also a telemark skier, but I 
>>> think having your foot solidly attached is overrated. I think a lot of the 
>>> time people do it because they feel like they have to or it's what everyone 
>>> else is doing, even when there's not a good reason to- that was me for 
>>> years before I realized how good flat pedals are. Getting a nice pair of 
>>> pedals helped too- I got a good deal on some thin Crank Brothers platforms 
>>> with good spikes and nice bearings and they made me like flat pedals a lot 
>>> more.
>>>
>>> That being said, if you really want to try clipless pedals, I recommend 
>>> Time ATACs. They're the only clipless pedals I've used for the last few 
>>> years after moving away from SPDs and (eewww) Look road pedals, and I like 
>>> them for the float and the reasonably supportive pedal body as well as for 
>>> their performance in muddy conditions (I do race some cyclocross). SPDs 
>>> work fine too though, and maybe cheaper and easier to find.
>>>
>>> Josiah Anderson
>>> Missoula, MT
>>>
>>> Le dim. 19 févr. 2023 à 07:22, Ted Durant  a écrit :
>>>
 On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 9:17:48 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:
 trust  its ok to ask for product recomendation here. been riding with 
 toe clips forever and ready to switch to clipless. anyone here have 
 thoughts about a good pedal for a beginner. something easy to get in and 
 out of. i get indegestion looking at all the different kinds/styles/types. 

 Okay, I'll be the first to say it ... don't bother! I use Crank 
 Brothers eggbeater pedals on most of my bikes, and I'm about to put some 
 flat pedals on one of my regulars and do a fair amount of riding without 
 bindings to see if I really still want them. I started going down the 
 no-binding path a while ago, but much of my riding was commuting and I 
 actually liked bindings for being able to accelerate quickly in traffic. 
 If 
 I was doing any group riding, I'd still want them, and for that reason 
 even 
 if I ditch the eggbeaters for most of my bikes, I will still keep them on 
 my "group ride" bike (my Riv Road). 

 That said, I've been very happy with eggbeaters because 1) they're 
 super easy entry and exit (as long as you replace the cleats regularly), 
 2) 
 low profile cleats with lots of walkable shoe options, 3)there's no 
 tension 
 adjustment required and the shoe-cleat-pedal interface is secure as long 
 as 
 you replace the cleats regularly and use shims as needed, 4) choice of 
 fixed or floating cleats (I prefer fixed), 5) no extra weight. You do want 
 shoes with fairly stiff soles, because the pedal itself offers no support. 
 On the down side, they don't have a flat/binding two-sided option, 

Re: [RBW] Re: Proper(?) fitting of a Bosco or similar handlebar & Nitto V5 stem

[Richard Rose]

A couple of observations.I had a 650 Tosco with 135 FacePlater on the Clem. That particular bar has bulged 31.8 clamp area. That handlebar did not budge. It never slipped & I never needed to tighten the 4 bolt stem. But, I found the bar to be too wide.So I got the 550 wide Bosco with 25.4 clamp area & 135 FacePlater. That has been very stable also on & off road but it did slip a couple of times on small drops off road. I’ve re-torqued and had no further issues.For my Gus I got the 580 Bosco also 25.4 but that one is a sleeved aluminum bar. I figured the V5 stem would be my best chance for no slippage ridden aggressively off road. When I put it together I used carbon paste which I’ve read aids in slip prevention. I am hopeful.:)Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 22, 2023, at 10:00 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:Now that's interesting; fun video. I was struck by (a) the skinny front tire and (b) by the wide bar. I wish I had such firm, smooth dirt to ride on. A bar like the Losco/Bosco/Tosco/what have you might be very usable if you could set it up for cruising at the curves and use the wide ends only for sketchy technical situations.But: 4-bolt and insufficient; that's instructive. This and other threads about Rivendell widebars slipping in single-clamp stems, 4-bolt, 2-bolt, or 1-bolt, makes me think that Riv should devise its own "Y-clamp" stem.Patrick Moore, resolutely bottom-trimming in ABQ, NMOn Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 1:46 PM greenteadrinkers  wrote:Interesting... was just watching a video via Radavist called "Rivendell Susie Longbolts/Wolbis Slugstone (First Ride) @ Marshall Canyon" at around 6 min 30 seconds in the rider has to stop and tighten his quill 4-bolt face plater and manages to break one of the bolts! Looks like the stem is paired with a Losco. Gotta love the "You guys have beach cruisers" comment from a passerby.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbD6sgowP58=407s



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Re: [RBW] Re: Pedal Question

[Philip Williamson]

I'm also Team Platform, and would recommend SPDs for a beginner into the 
clipless pedal world. 
I did ride Eggbeaters for several years, and made skateboard pedal decks to 
turn them into platforms. It turned out I never ever rode without them, so 
I just bought some platform pedals and donated or sold my eggbeaters. One 
set of skatedecks is hanging above my tool bench as a "hey I did that," but 
I'm not interested in riding clipless. If my riding changes to big jumps 
offroad, I'd revisit SPDs. 

Philip 
Sonoma County, Calif 

On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 10:05:09 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> Platforms > clipless IMO. I’ve ridden both and like less hassle and fewer 
> impediments to hopping on a bike. Should you not wish to listen to a 
> stranger on the Internet and wish to go full steam ahead, I suggest SPDs 
> especially since, were one to break out on the road, replacement cleats or 
> screws are readily available at most LBSs. Many other clipless pedal 
> options are not. 
>
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:46:09 AM UTC-8 Josiah Anderson wrote:
>
>> I agree with Ted, clipless pedals are not useful for most of the riding I 
>> do. That riding consists of commuting, trail riding, long and fast-ish road 
>> rides, and both paved and off-road touring. The only time I still use 
>> clipless pedals is for racing (which I do just a little of); platforms are 
>> much better the rest of the time. Maybe I don't care about foot attachment 
>> as much as some people, considering that I'm also a telemark skier, but I 
>> think having your foot solidly attached is overrated. I think a lot of the 
>> time people do it because they feel like they have to or it's what everyone 
>> else is doing, even when there's not a good reason to- that was me for 
>> years before I realized how good flat pedals are. Getting a nice pair of 
>> pedals helped too- I got a good deal on some thin Crank Brothers platforms 
>> with good spikes and nice bearings and they made me like flat pedals a lot 
>> more.
>>
>> That being said, if you really want to try clipless pedals, I recommend 
>> Time ATACs. They're the only clipless pedals I've used for the last few 
>> years after moving away from SPDs and (eewww) Look road pedals, and I like 
>> them for the float and the reasonably supportive pedal body as well as for 
>> their performance in muddy conditions (I do race some cyclocross). SPDs 
>> work fine too though, and maybe cheaper and easier to find.
>>
>> Josiah Anderson
>> Missoula, MT
>>
>> Le dim. 19 févr. 2023 à 07:22, Ted Durant  a écrit :
>>
>>> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 9:17:48 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:
>>> trust  its ok to ask for product recomendation here. been riding with 
>>> toe clips forever and ready to switch to clipless. anyone here have 
>>> thoughts about a good pedal for a beginner. something easy to get in and 
>>> out of. i get indegestion looking at all the different kinds/styles/types. 
>>>
>>> Okay, I'll be the first to say it ... don't bother! I use Crank Brothers 
>>> eggbeater pedals on most of my bikes, and I'm about to put some flat pedals 
>>> on one of my regulars and do a fair amount of riding without bindings to 
>>> see if I really still want them. I started going down the no-binding path a 
>>> while ago, but much of my riding was commuting and I actually liked 
>>> bindings for being able to accelerate quickly in traffic. If I was doing 
>>> any group riding, I'd still want them, and for that reason even if I ditch 
>>> the eggbeaters for most of my bikes, I will still keep them on my "group 
>>> ride" bike (my Riv Road). 
>>>
>>> That said, I've been very happy with eggbeaters because 1) they're super 
>>> easy entry and exit (as long as you replace the cleats regularly), 2) low 
>>> profile cleats with lots of walkable shoe options, 3)there's no tension 
>>> adjustment required and the shoe-cleat-pedal interface is secure as long as 
>>> you replace the cleats regularly and use shims as needed, 4) choice of 
>>> fixed or floating cleats (I prefer fixed), 5) no extra weight. You do want 
>>> shoes with fairly stiff soles, because the pedal itself offers no support. 
>>> On the down side, they don't have a flat/binding two-sided option, but that 
>>> hasn't been an issue for me. I have a box full of old Shimano pedals and 
>>> cleats. I could never get happy with the shoe-cleat-pedal interface, it was 
>>> always too loose and wobbly or too hard to release.
>>>
>>> Ted Durant
>>> Milwaukee WI USA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Proper(?) fitting of a Bosco or similar handlebar & Nitto V5 stem

[Patrick Moore]

Now that's interesting; fun video. I was struck by (a) the skinny front
tire and (b) by the wide bar. I wish I had such firm, smooth dirt to ride
on. A bar like the Losco/Bosco/Tosco/what have you might be very usable if
you could set it up for cruising at the curves and use the wide ends only
for sketchy technical situations.

But: 4-bolt and insufficient; that's instructive. This and other threads
about Rivendell widebars slipping in single-clamp stems, 4-bolt, 2-bolt, or
1-bolt, makes me think that Riv should devise its own "Y-clamp" stem.

Patrick Moore, resolutely bottom-trimming in ABQ, NM

On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 1:46 PM greenteadrinkers 
wrote:

> Interesting... was just watching a video via Radavist called "Rivendell
> Susie Longbolts/Wolbis Slugstone (First Ride) @ Marshall Canyon" at around
> 6 min 30 seconds in the rider has to stop and tighten his quill 4-bolt face
> plater and manages to break one of the bolts! Looks like the stem is paired
> with a Losco. Gotta love the "You guys have beach cruisers" comment from a
> passerby.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbD6sgowP58=407s
>

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Re: [RBW] Ride Report: The Cabo Loop, BSC

[John Rinker]

Steven, That cobbled road is very lovely. Worth a trip to Portugal just to 
ride on that!

'And visions of [rumbling across the cobble] danced in his head.'

Cheers, John

On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 11:26:37 PM UTC-8 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> John, the ramp in the pic is signed 16%, the other end that I rode up is 
> 20%. Its all I can do. The road surface across the valley is (very smooth) 
> cobbles with a different color stone for the center line. Its a gorgeous 
> area with incredible February weather.Thats Vida do Bispo in the 2nd pic.   
> Steve
>
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 11:56 PM John Rinker  wrote:
>
>> Steven,
>>
>> That looks like fine Spring riding and that road swinging up the hill 
>> looks like a lot of fun (up or down). Years ago I lived in Morocco and 
>> visited Portugal. I remember it being wild and hilly. Must be a wonderful 
>> place to ride.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 12:04:09 AM UTC-8 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>>> John, I saw that massive development last time I was there, its been 
>>> building for years. Glad to hear your tires were big enough for those sand 
>>> roads. We should enjoy any undeveloped waterfront, its being built up in so 
>>> many places. Currently in the southwest corner of Portugal, where there is 
>>> less than the rest of theAlgarve coast to the east. Steve
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 9:37 PM John Rinker  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, friends! Glad you enjoyed the read. Even more fun to ride it, 
 so make a plan if you can.

 Steven, La Ribera seems to be undergoing a massive construction project 
 involving a marina and a golf course. Very dusty when we rode through. Fat 
 tires would be helpful, but not necessary. My 2.15 Schwalbe All Motions 
 did 
 the trick just fine.

 Eric, Yes, there are a lot of photos on the Gaia tracks. I really enjoy 
 this app on such trips for navigation, but also as a record keeper. The 
 photos do pile up though.

 Kim, Your Clem Jr. would handle this ride with no problem. We 
 encountered a couple for Colorado on 90s-era mountain bikes, fully loaded 
 on 1.95s, and they were having a blast! 

 In all the reading leading up to the trip about optimal tires and best 
 set-ups, the best advice was: 'Just go ride it!'

 Cheers,
 John
 On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 11:58:46 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Thank-you for letting me know. 
>
> As I read and saw your pictures, I visualized myself riding my Clem 
> Smith Jr. "L" bike with my wide tires navigating through all the varied 
> terrain and having a great adventure in a world with very few people 
> around. I would be happy eating authentic Mexican food. 
>
> In my dreamtime,
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA. 
>
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 10:00 PM John Rinker  
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Kim,
>>
>> Daytime temps were around 25-27C (77-80F)  A couple of days we had 
>> very nice cloud cover which kept things cooler while climbing in the 
>> mountains; very nice, indeed.
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 8:05:32 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wonderful getaway ride report !  Thank-you for sharing.
>>> What was the day time high temperatures like ?
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 7:41:09 PM UTC-8 Sky Coulter wrote:
>>>
 Awesome! Thanks for the write up. That looks like a great get away.

 On Feb 19, 2023, at 4:42 PM, John Rinker  wrote:

  

 A friend and I recently hung up our skis here in BC for a few weeks 
 and headed south to Baja Sur to ride the Cape (Cabo) Loop that 
 completes 
 the popular Baja Divide route. The loop is roughly 450km and takes in 
 the 
 Pacific Ocean, the* Sierra La Lagunas*, and beautiful beaches 
 along the Sea of Cortez. The landscape in both the mountains and along 
 the 
 coasts is a rich and diverse desert ecosystem. In addition to a 
 variety of 
 birds, we saw tons (literally) of humpback whales and mobula rays 
 along the 
 eastern coastline. The route is somewhat challenging with some stiff 
 climbing, tire-sucking sand, and a few technical rock-dancing 
 sections. 
 Mostly, it’s a stunner ride that offers warm weather mid-Winter and 
 wild 
 camping in beautiful spots both in the mountains and on relatively 
 empty 
 beaches. 

 

 Shortly after landing in San Jose del Cabo, we put our bikes 
 together and headed toward the Baja brewery in the Old Town to carbo 
 load 
 with Peyote IPAs and* tacos de pescado* for our departure the 

Re: [RBW] Custom frame bag for Gus

[John Rinker]

Super cool, and great design! I, too, offer kudos for the chain-slap patch, 
and I really like the Irish strap accent at the kickstand plate. 

Cheers, John

On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 4:05:48 PM UTC-8 Andrew Letton wrote:

> Nice! I especially like the black patch adjacent to the chain.
>
> (Related to that space behind the seat tube...from the first time I saw 
> it, I thought there should be a triple set of bosses there for a big 
> Nalgene or other extra water storage.)
>
> cheers,
> Andrew in Sydney...where more water on the bike is always better!
>
>
> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 02:15:29 AM GMT+11, Brian Turner <
> brok...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Photos here:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jr243dfSx6YUyDiL7
>
> Ever since taking ownership of my Gus last Fall, I had designs on having a 
> custom frame bag made for the space behind the seat tube on the frame. I 
> guess it's the bikepacker in me, but it seems like there's just too much 
> usable space there to not take advantage of it.
>
> I reached out to Andy Schmidt from Lords Luggage in Portland (he runs in 
> the same bike scene circles as Rivelo John and Bantam Cycles Bob), and he 
> enthusiastically accepted the challenge. Click the link above to check out 
> the photos!
>
> I'm super pleased with the results... it's exactly what I was hoping for. 
> I mostly keep my tire repair stuff in it; pump, pressure gauge, spare tube, 
> puncture repair kit, 2 oz bottle of sealant, shop rag, and still a little 
> room to spare.
>
> If you're looking for a custom bag like this, or other bike bags and 
> handmade luggage, get in touch with Andy! Thanks for looking!
>
> -Brian
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

[luckyturnip]

It’s very easy to use and install but I have the Heavy Duty two bike rack and find it very heavy and awkward. I have to add the other two additional trays once it’s on the car or I won’t be able to carry it alone. Even in two bike configuration I use my teen son to help carry. Me: healthy and relatively fit 48 year old femaleOn Feb 22, 2023, at 18:05, John Bokman  wrote:What about ease of installation? Are these 1UPS user-friendly in that regard? I am interested in the 1UP for all the reasons already mentioned, but also, because sometimes I'd have one bike, and sometimes I'd have to carry my wife's bike, and 2 kids' bikes, also. Nice to have the option of the add-ons (although getting ridiculously expensive). I think I'm finally done with putting my bike up on top of the car. Sadly, I'm not as strong and nimble as I was in my 20s, and my Rivendell is HEAVY (and I have a Sam).On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 7:26:20 AM UTC-8 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:Also adding my vote/appreciation for the 1up. It is the best rack I have used, although 90% of time I use it I am carrying multiple mountain bikes so the fender is not an issue. The fact it contains 0 plastic was a big selling point for me. What I've done w/ fendered bikes is:1. Push front wheel arm against the tire2. Lightly push rear wheel arm against the rear fender3. Put a strap around the rear rim and rack tray at the 6o'clock position. This is similar to how the thule T2 rack and some others operate. The front arm keeps the bike from falling over laterally or moving forward, and the strap keeps the rear wheel from bouncing up or the bike from moving backwards.Another approach i've mocked up but not actually tried is moving the horizontal 'pin' in the rear wheel arm down so that it contacts the tire below the rear fender. This would provide secure resistance against forward and back motion, but would still require the extra strap to keep the rear wheel from bouncing up.I had an older thule T2 for awhile. It did work well w/ fendered bikes but overall it was not as user friendly or well-built as the 1up imo.-BrianOn Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 10:43:05 PM UTC-6 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:You don’t have to go that hard. I just get super paranoid. I know the bike can’t go anywhere but you never know…. I personally think the Thule rack is easier to use but the 1Up is much lighter. It installs in about a minute. That 1Up fender attachment looks interesting. My mountain bike just got fendered but I haven’t mounted it in the rack yet. I don’t know that I would trust not being able to crush that tire (paranoia). Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 21, 2023, at 10:33 PM, DamonLee  wrote:I thought the same thing Leah, it looks soft but not grippy therefore requiring downwards force to hold it. The swagman looks good as it doesn't rely on clamping the tops of the wheels in any capacity.The deformation on the tires in jacobs photo makes me think I'd never want to put that kind of pressure on a fender.DamonOn Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 6:51:28 AM UTC+11 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I am following this thread with interest. I have the Saris Freedom 4 bike rack, but that company seems to be lessening their quality and maybe even phasing out this rack. They have a new modular system they seem to want you to buy, and it isn’t going to play nice with mixtes with fenders. Now, I have heard so much good about the 1Up rack, but honestly HOW is that fender cushion gonna work? Won’t it just mash my metal fenders? Push them out of shape? Mess up the alignment? Maybe someone with a fendered mixte wouldn’t mind posting it on their 1Up rack? LeahOn Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 8:44:49 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
Toshi,Occasionally, you can find 
the Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a claw on Craigslist:https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bop/d/bellevue-yakima-lockjaw-upright-roof/7587045203.htmlI have the Yakima Raptor roof rack with two trays. I recently modified two trays into one for my 80" Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike. One day, I will not be able to lift my bike over my head onto the tray. For now, it works. Kim HetzelYelm, WA. 
On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 9:15:11 AM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:Hi Jacob—it looks like the rear wheel bar on the 1up would crunch on my full coverage rear fender. What do you think?I use a Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a claw for my wife’s Betty, but those racks don’t seem to be sold anymore.Another alternative is a trunk rack with a top tube adapter for step throughs/mixtes.I bought a bar but have never needed to use it yet. Has anyone had any luck with those?Toshi in Oakland On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 4:30 AM Jacob Byard  wrote:I’ve got a 1up and a Thule t2. The Thule would not work with fenders. My 1pu is the single bike option and does a great job. Here’s a pic with an xl Gus. Road solid for about 50 miles of interstate and country roads. -JacobSent from my iPhoneOn Feb 20, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Brian 

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

[John Bokman]

What about ease of installation? Are these 1UPS user-friendly in that 
regard? I am interested in the 1UP for all the reasons already mentioned, 
but also, because sometimes I'd have one bike, and sometimes I'd have to 
carry my wife's bike, and 2 kids' bikes, also. Nice to have the option of 
the add-ons (although getting ridiculously expensive). I think I'm finally 
done with putting my bike up on top of the car. Sadly, I'm not as strong 
and nimble as I was in my 20s, and my Rivendell is HEAVY (and I have a Sam).

On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 7:26:20 AM UTC-8 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:

> Also adding my vote/appreciation for the 1up. It is the best rack I have 
> used, although 90% of time I use it I am carrying multiple mountain bikes 
> so the fender is not an issue. The fact it contains 0 plastic was a big 
> selling point for me. 
>
> What I've done w/ fendered bikes is:
>
> 1. Push front wheel arm against the tire
> 2. Lightly push rear wheel arm against the rear fender
> 3. Put a strap around the rear rim and rack tray at the 6o'clock position. 
> This is similar to how the thule T2 rack and some others operate. The front 
> arm keeps the bike from falling over laterally or moving forward, and the 
> strap keeps the rear wheel from bouncing up or the bike from moving 
> backwards.
>
> Another approach i've mocked up but not actually tried is moving the 
> horizontal 'pin' in the rear wheel arm down so that it contacts the tire 
> below the rear fender. This would provide secure resistance against forward 
> and back motion, but would still require the extra strap to keep the rear 
> wheel from bouncing up.
>
> I had an older thule T2 for awhile. It did work well w/ fendered bikes but 
> overall it was not as user friendly or well-built as the 1up imo.
>
> -Brian
>
> On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 10:43:05 PM UTC-6 jacob...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> You don’t have to go that hard. I just get super paranoid. I know the 
>> bike can’t go anywhere but you never know…. 
>>
>> I personally think the Thule rack is easier to use but the 1Up is much 
>> lighter. It installs in about a minute. 
>>
>> That 1Up fender attachment looks interesting. My mountain bike just got 
>> fendered but I haven’t mounted it in the rack yet. I don’t know that I 
>> would trust not being able to crush that tire (paranoia). 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2023, at 10:33 PM, DamonLee  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> I thought the same thing Leah, it looks soft but not grippy therefore 
>> requiring downwards force to hold it. The swagman looks good as it doesn't 
>> rely on clamping the tops of the wheels in any capacity.
>> The deformation on the tires in jacobs photo makes me think I'd never 
>> want to put that kind of pressure on a fender.
>>
>> Damon
>> On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 6:51:28 AM UTC+11 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> I am following this thread with interest. I have the Saris Freedom 4 
>>> bike rack, but that company seems to be lessening their quality and maybe 
>>> even phasing out this rack. They have a new modular system they seem to 
>>> want you to buy, and it isn’t going to play nice with mixtes with fenders. 
>>>
>>> Now, I have heard so much good about the 1Up rack, but honestly HOW is 
>>> that fender cushion gonna work? Won’t it just mash my metal fenders? Push 
>>> them out of shape? Mess up the alignment? Maybe someone with a fendered 
>>> mixte wouldn’t mind posting it on their 1Up rack? 
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 8:44:49 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Toshi,

 Occasionally, you can find the Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a 
 claw on Craigslist:

 https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bop/d/bellevue-yakima-lockjaw-upright-roof/7587045203.html

 I have the Yakima Raptor roof rack with two trays. I recently modified 
 two trays into one for my 80" Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike. One day, I will not 
 be able to lift my bike over my head onto the tray. For now, it works. 

 Kim Hetzel
 Yelm, WA. 


 On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 9:15:11 AM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:

> Hi Jacob—it looks like the rear wheel bar on the 1up would crunch on 
> my full coverage rear fender. What do you think?
>
> I use a Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a claw for my wife’s 
> Betty, but those racks don’t seem to be sold anymore.
>
> Another alternative is a trunk rack with a top tube adapter for step 
> throughs/mixtes.
>
> I bought a bar but have never needed to use it yet. Has anyone had any 
> luck with those?
>
> Toshi in Oakland 
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 4:30 AM Jacob Byard  
> wrote:
>
>> I’ve got a 1up and a Thule t2. The Thule would not work with fenders. 
>> My 1pu is the single bike option and does a great job. Here’s a pic with 
>> an 
>> xl Gus. Road solid for about 50 miles of interstate and 

[RBW] Re: A formal request to one of you...

[dougP]

Joe: It's for a good cause. 

dougP

On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 3:30:06 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> This is all a dastardly plan. Leah thinks everyone should have a Platypus 
> and Bill needs a B68 and somehow I end up with a new bike. "I did it for 
> Leah and Bill." 
>
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 10:58:27 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I hereby request that one of you, who intend to purchase a complete 
>> bicycle from Rivendell Bicycle Works in the very near future, add to your 
>> purchase a Brooks B68 Saddle (only available with a complete bike purchase) 
>> and then sell it to me, for a price you believe to be fair, considering my 
>> contributions to RBWOB, and the pure audacity of the above request.
>>
>> Sincerely
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Custom frame bag for Gus

[Andrew Letton]

 Nice! I especially like the black patch adjacent to the chain.
(Related to that space behind the seat tube...from the first time I saw it, I 
thought there should be a triple set of bosses there for a big Nalgene or other 
extra water storage.)
cheers,Andrew in Sydney...where more water on the bike is always better!

On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 02:15:29 AM GMT+11, Brian Turner 
 wrote:  
 
 Photos here:https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jr243dfSx6YUyDiL7
Ever since taking ownership of my Gus last Fall, I had designs on having a 
custom frame bag made for the space behind the seat tube on the frame. I guess 
it's the bikepacker in me, but it seems like there's just too much usable space 
there to not take advantage of it.
I reached out to Andy Schmidt from Lords Luggage in Portland (he runs in the 
same bike scene circles as Rivelo John and Bantam Cycles Bob), and he 
enthusiastically accepted the challenge. Click the link above to check out the 
photos!
I'm super pleased with the results... it's exactly what I was hoping for. I 
mostly keep my tire repair stuff in it; pump, pressure gauge, spare tube, 
puncture repair kit, 2 oz bottle of sealant, shop rag, and still a little room 
to spare.
If you're looking for a custom bag like this, or other bike bags and handmade 
luggage, get in touch with Andy! Thanks for looking!

-Brian


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[RBW] Re: A formal request to one of you...

[Joe Bernard]

This is all a dastardly plan. Leah thinks everyone should have a Platypus 
and Bill needs a B68 and somehow I end up with a new bike. "I did it for 
Leah and Bill." 

On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 10:58:27 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I hereby request that one of you, who intend to purchase a complete 
> bicycle from Rivendell Bicycle Works in the very near future, add to your 
> purchase a Brooks B68 Saddle (only available with a complete bike purchase) 
> and then sell it to me, for a price you believe to be fair, considering my 
> contributions to RBWOB, and the pure audacity of the above request.
>
> Sincerely
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: A formal request to one of you...

[Bill Lindsay]

You did it correctly.  Thanks for the scorching hot tip!

BL in EC

On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 2:55:49 PM UTC-8 Sean B. wrote:

> Bill, 
>
> Sent you a DM, but I'm not sure I did it correctly. Let me know if you 
> didn't receive it. 
>
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 12:58:27 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I hereby request that one of you, who intend to purchase a complete 
>> bicycle from Rivendell Bicycle Works in the very near future, add to your 
>> purchase a Brooks B68 Saddle (only available with a complete bike purchase) 
>> and then sell it to me, for a price you believe to be fair, considering my 
>> contributions to RBWOB, and the pure audacity of the above request.
>>
>> Sincerely
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: Simworks Homage 26” x 1.95”

[Richard Rose]

Great price on a really great tire! I have the 27.5” x 55 on my Clem & they are so nice. Possible to dismiss these as “fashion” tires but they are so much more. And that color is awesome.Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 22, 2023, at 5:59 PM, Conway Bennett  wrote:All,I just picked these up, and clearances are too tight.  $105 net to me shipped in the lower 48.  I also have Gravel King 26 x 2.1 new in the package for $106 net to me shipped in the lower 48.From the seller:"Simworks Homage 26” x 1.95” MTB tire Limited Color.Panaracer Simworks Homage 26”x1.95”This particular color was a limited run and no longer available.Tires were ridden a few miles on the road but never in dirt or mud. No holes."Images: https://photos.app.goo.gl/cAV48vkVSoqMKqkM6



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[RBW] FS: Simworks Homage 26” x 1.95”

[Conway Bennett]

All,

I just picked these up, and clearances are too tight.  $105 net to me 
shipped in the lower 48.  I also have Gravel King 26 x 2.1 new in the 
package for $106 net to me shipped in the lower 48.

>From the seller:

"Simworks Homage 26” x 1.95” MTB tire Limited Color.

Panaracer Simworks Homage 26”x1.95”

This particular color was a limited run and no longer available.

Tires were ridden a few miles on the road but never in dirt or mud. No 
holes."

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[RBW] Re: A formal request to one of you...

[Sean B.]

Bill, 

Sent you a DM, but I'm not sure I did it correctly. Let me know if you 
didn't receive it. 

On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 12:58:27 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I hereby request that one of you, who intend to purchase a complete 
> bicycle from Rivendell Bicycle Works in the very near future, add to your 
> purchase a Brooks B68 Saddle (only available with a complete bike purchase) 
> and then sell it to me, for a price you believe to be fair, considering my 
> contributions to RBWOB, and the pure audacity of the above request.
>
> Sincerely
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Proper(?) fitting of a Bosco or similar handlebar & Nitto V5 stem

[Richard Rose]

I’ve definitely watched that one a few times.:)Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 22, 2023, at 3:46 PM, greenteadrinkers  wrote:Interesting... was just watching a video via Radavist called "Rivendell Susie Longbolts/Wolbis Slugstone (First Ride) @ Marshall Canyon" at around 6 min 30 seconds in the rider has to stop and tighten his quill 4-bolt face plater and manages to break one of the bolts! Looks like the stem is paired with a Losco. Gotta love the "You guys have beach cruisers" comment from a passerby.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbD6sgowP58=407sOn Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 3:14:35 PM UTC-5 greenteadrinkers wrote:Looks great! BL does a really nice job with the spacers. Would be super cool to see a quill version of the V5.On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 7:48:06 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:My Bluelug package arrived yesterday - a day early - in great shape and no missing items. I think it was 4 days, maybe 5. Happy & stunned.Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 17, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Mackenzy Albright  wrote:Watch out - ordering from blue lug can become a problem. The first order shows up in 4 days. The next thing you know you have another package coming with "just a few more parts to finish the build". DHL is a bit weird on their brokerage as they charge a flat rate fee for their time which is a bit annoying, but not the worst. They are also extremely reliable and great for scheduling delivery and drop offs. Paying fees online etc. I find their prices are fantastic for items manufactured in Japan. You get to avoid paying the shop price markup on them importing the item. You just pay shipping+ brokerage yourself with no mark up. Plus they just have tons of lovely small detailed items like bolt covers, reflectors, nets, etc that are difficult to find in other places. On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 7:22:33 AM UTC-8 jad...@gmail.com wrote:I found circles to have lower shipping rates and lightening fast service. I am in zip 59808 (Montana) and 4 days from order to delivery..https://shop.circles-jp.com/enOn Friday, February 17, 2023 at 8:08:36 AM UTC-7 greenteadrinkers wrote:The few times I've placed orders with BL have been easy with very fast shipping. If you give feedback about the site's performance they usually add a bunch of cool stickers.On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 9:34:56 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:Well that was easy. I’ve been reluctant to order any bike parts from out of the country, not sure why. But I pulled the trigger yesterday on a V5 & appropriate spacers from Bluelug. A very user friendly website & reasonable shipping. Estimated delivery next week! Not sure if there will be any additional fees? Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 16, 2023, at 2:55 PM, greenteadrinkers  wrote:Just mounted a Billie bar to my V5, I would say both Choco, and Billie bars are compatible. Regarding the Bosco Bullmoose, I agree with Keith's comment above. Below, is the Billie bar with the V5. Also, a few details show the space between the stem and the front cap of the stem, looking at images at Blue Lug, there is no gap, guessing that's not a big issue, but thought I'd point it out. The bolt extends outside of the rear port, so there's no loss in bolt length. Wow, wonder how much ($$$) a modern remake of the Slingshot would cost?On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 1:46:18 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 12:14:57 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:Interesting; I just glommed on the V5, which I'd not seen before. It seems to be a good design for bars where the moment of force is relatively high, like many of the current Rivendell bars.Curious: I can see how a Technomic would be wholly overwhelmed by a Bosco. But what about a wide-faced, 4-bolt single-clamp stem? The only examples of these last are the Ritchey 4-bolt faceplate threadless stems I have on 2 bikes, but I wonder if these might hold a Bosco in place firmly without requiring over tightening of the bolts?This is not an idle question; I may try a bosco or tosco or some other such long sweepback bar on the Monocog 29er, and I'd not want to have to buy a new V5 stem as well as a new, expensive, bar.Patrick, just in case it isn't clear:  The V5 stem probably only works with Nitto-made bars.  The Tosco, even in the narrower 25.4 versions, lack the long sleeve swaged onto the clamp area.  On nitto bars,  i know it works with the Bosco, but I think it might even be worth double checking to make sure the sleeve is long enough on the Billie, Chaco, Wavie, etc.  Starting with the Billie bar, Nitto adopted a new manufacturing method that combined a bulged section WITH a sleeve.  For the Bosco and older models, the  clamp diameter was made up entirely with a swaged sleeve - like their drop bars.Regarding clamp force:  Ive experimented with boscos quite a bit.  I found a steel, ritchey force stem  with a broad clamp surface, to be adequate, even with a single bolt.  I was eventually able to get them to work 

Re: [RBW] Re: Proper(?) fitting of a Bosco or similar handlebar & Nitto V5 stem

[greenteadrinkers]

Interesting... was just watching a video via Radavist called "Rivendell 
Susie Longbolts/Wolbis Slugstone (First Ride) @ Marshall Canyon" at around 
6 min 30 seconds in the rider has to stop and tighten his quill 4-bolt face 
plater and manages to break one of the bolts! Looks like the stem is paired 
with a Losco. Gotta love the "You guys have beach cruisers" comment from a 
passerby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbD6sgowP58=407s

On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 3:14:35 PM UTC-5 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> Looks great! BL does a really nice job with the spacers. Would be super 
> cool to see a quill version of the V5.
>
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 7:48:06 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> My Bluelug package arrived yesterday - a day early - in great shape and 
>> no missing items. I think it was 4 days, maybe 5. Happy & stunned.
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 17, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Mackenzy Albright  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Watch out - ordering from blue lug can become a problem. The first order 
>> shows up in 4 days. The next thing you know you have another package coming 
>> with "just a few more parts to finish the build". 
>>
>>
>> DHL is a bit weird on their brokerage as they charge a flat rate fee for 
>> their time which is a bit annoying, but not the worst. They are also 
>> extremely reliable and great for scheduling delivery and drop offs. Paying 
>> fees online etc. 
>>
>> I find their prices are fantastic for items manufactured in Japan. You 
>> get to avoid paying the shop price markup on them importing the item. You 
>> just pay shipping+ brokerage yourself with no mark up. Plus they just have 
>> tons of lovely small detailed items like bolt covers, reflectors, nets, etc 
>> that are difficult to find in other places. 
>>
>> On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 7:22:33 AM UTC-8 jad...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I found circles to have lower shipping rates and lightening fast 
>>> service. I am in zip 59808 (Montana) and 4 days from order to delivery..
>>> https://shop.circles-jp.com/en
>>> On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 8:08:36 AM UTC-7 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>>>
 The few times I've placed orders with BL have been easy with very fast 
 shipping. If you give feedback about the site's performance they usually 
 add a bunch of cool stickers.

 On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 9:34:56 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Well that was easy. I’ve been reluctant to order any bike parts from 
> out of the country, not sure why. But I pulled the trigger yesterday on a 
> V5 & appropriate spacers from Bluelug. A very user friendly website & 
> reasonable shipping. Estimated delivery next week! Not sure if there will 
> be any additional fees? 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 16, 2023, at 2:55 PM, greenteadrinkers  
> wrote:
>
> Just mounted a Billie bar to my V5, I would say both Choco, and 
> Billie bars are compatible. Regarding the Bosco Bullmoose, I agree with 
> Keith's comment above. Below, is the Billie bar with the V5. Also, a few 
> details show the space between the stem and the front cap of the stem, 
> looking at images at Blue Lug, there is no gap, guessing that's not a big 
> issue, but thought I'd point it out. The bolt extends outside of the rear 
> port, so there's no loss in bolt length. Wow, wonder how much ($$$) a 
> modern remake of the Slingshot would cost?
>
> 
> 
> 
>
>
> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 1:46:18 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 12:14:57 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore 
>> wrote:
>> Interesting; I just glommed on the V5, which I'd not seen before. It 
>> seems to be a good design for bars where the moment of force is 
>> relatively 
>> high, like many of the current Rivendell bars.
>>
>> Curious: I can see how a Technomic would be wholly overwhelmed by a 
>> Bosco. But what about a wide-faced, 4-bolt single-clamp stem? The only 
>> examples of these last are the Ritchey 4-bolt faceplate threadless stems 
>> I 
>> have on 2 bikes, but I wonder if these might hold a Bosco in place 
>> firmly 
>> without requiring over tightening of the bolts?
>>
>> This is not an idle question; I may try a bosco or tosco or some 
>> other such long sweepback bar on the Monocog 29er, and I'd not want to 
>> have 
>> to buy a new V5 stem as well as a new, expensive, bar.
>>
>>
>> Patrick, just in case it isn't clear:  The V5 stem probably only 
>> works with Nitto-made bars.  The Tosco, even in the narrower 25.4 
>> versions, 
>> lack the long sleeve swaged onto the clamp area.  On nitto bars,  i know 
>> it 
>> works with the Bosco, but I think it might even be worth double checking 
>> to 
>> make sure the sleeve is long enough on the Billie, Chaco, Wavie, 

Re: [RBW] Re: Proper(?) fitting of a Bosco or similar handlebar & Nitto V5 stem

[greenteadrinkers]

Looks great! BL does a really nice job with the spacers. Would be super 
cool to see a quill version of the V5.

On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 7:48:06 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> My Bluelug package arrived yesterday - a day early - in great shape and no 
> missing items. I think it was 4 days, maybe 5. Happy & stunned.
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 17, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Mackenzy Albright  
> wrote:
>
> Watch out - ordering from blue lug can become a problem. The first order 
> shows up in 4 days. The next thing you know you have another package coming 
> with "just a few more parts to finish the build". 
>
>
> DHL is a bit weird on their brokerage as they charge a flat rate fee for 
> their time which is a bit annoying, but not the worst. They are also 
> extremely reliable and great for scheduling delivery and drop offs. Paying 
> fees online etc. 
>
> I find their prices are fantastic for items manufactured in Japan. You get 
> to avoid paying the shop price markup on them importing the item. You just 
> pay shipping+ brokerage yourself with no mark up. Plus they just have tons 
> of lovely small detailed items like bolt covers, reflectors, nets, etc that 
> are difficult to find in other places. 
>
> On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 7:22:33 AM UTC-8 jad...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I found circles to have lower shipping rates and lightening fast service. 
>> I am in zip 59808 (Montana) and 4 days from order to delivery..
>> https://shop.circles-jp.com/en
>> On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 8:08:36 AM UTC-7 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>>
>>> The few times I've placed orders with BL have been easy with very fast 
>>> shipping. If you give feedback about the site's performance they usually 
>>> add a bunch of cool stickers.
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 9:34:56 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Well that was easy. I’ve been reluctant to order any bike parts from 
 out of the country, not sure why. But I pulled the trigger yesterday on a 
 V5 & appropriate spacers from Bluelug. A very user friendly website & 
 reasonable shipping. Estimated delivery next week! Not sure if there will 
 be any additional fees? 

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 16, 2023, at 2:55 PM, greenteadrinkers  
 wrote:

 Just mounted a Billie bar to my V5, I would say both Choco, and Billie 
 bars are compatible. Regarding the Bosco Bullmoose, I agree with Keith's 
 comment above. Below, is the Billie bar with the V5. Also, a few details 
 show the space between the stem and the front cap of the stem, looking at 
 images at Blue Lug, there is no gap, guessing that's not a big issue, but 
 thought I'd point it out. The bolt extends outside of the rear port, so 
 there's no loss in bolt length. Wow, wonder how much ($$$) a modern remake 
 of the Slingshot would cost?

 
 
 


 On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 1:46:18 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

> On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 12:14:57 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
> Interesting; I just glommed on the V5, which I'd not seen before. It 
> seems to be a good design for bars where the moment of force is 
> relatively 
> high, like many of the current Rivendell bars.
>
> Curious: I can see how a Technomic would be wholly overwhelmed by a 
> Bosco. But what about a wide-faced, 4-bolt single-clamp stem? The only 
> examples of these last are the Ritchey 4-bolt faceplate threadless stems 
> I 
> have on 2 bikes, but I wonder if these might hold a Bosco in place firmly 
> without requiring over tightening of the bolts?
>
> This is not an idle question; I may try a bosco or tosco or some other 
> such long sweepback bar on the Monocog 29er, and I'd not want to have to 
> buy a new V5 stem as well as a new, expensive, bar.
>
>
> Patrick, just in case it isn't clear:  The V5 stem probably only works 
> with Nitto-made bars.  The Tosco, even in the narrower 25.4 versions, 
> lack 
> the long sleeve swaged onto the clamp area.  On nitto bars,  i know it 
> works with the Bosco, but I think it might even be worth double checking 
> to 
> make sure the sleeve is long enough on the Billie, Chaco, Wavie, etc.  
> Starting with the Billie bar, Nitto adopted a new manufacturing method 
> that 
> combined a bulged section WITH a sleeve.  For the Bosco and older models, 
> the  clamp diameter was made up entirely with a swaged sleeve - like 
> their 
> drop bars.
>
> Regarding clamp force:  Ive experimented with boscos quite a bit.  I 
> found a steel, ritchey force stem  with a broad clamp surface, to be 
> adequate, even with a single bolt.  I was eventually able to get them to 
> work in a technomic stem, and not slip after tightening enough, but found 
> this unsatisfactory for another 

[RBW] A formal request to one of you...

[Bill Lindsay]

I hereby request that one of you, who intend to purchase a complete bicycle 
from Rivendell Bicycle Works in the very near future, add to your purchase 
a Brooks B68 Saddle (only available with a complete bike purchase) and then 
sell it to me, for a price you believe to be fair, considering my 
contributions to RBWOB, and the pure audacity of the above request.

Sincerely
Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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Re: [RBW] Custom frame bag for Gus

[Kim Hetzel]

Very Cool ! Brian.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 7:26:31 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Nice Brian!
>
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 10:21:05 AM UTC-5 Curtis wrote:
>
>> Great looking bag and smart!
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 7:15 AM Brian Turner  wrote:
>>
>>> Photos here:
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jr243dfSx6YUyDiL7
>>>
>>> Ever since taking ownership of my Gus last Fall, I had designs on having 
>>> a custom frame bag made for the space behind the seat tube on the frame. I 
>>> guess it's the bikepacker in me, but it seems like there's just too much 
>>> usable space there to not take advantage of it.
>>>
>>> I reached out to Andy Schmidt from Lords Luggage in Portland (he runs in 
>>> the same bike scene circles as Rivelo John and Bantam Cycles Bob), and he 
>>> enthusiastically accepted the challenge. Click the link above to check out 
>>> the photos!
>>>
>>> I'm super pleased with the results... it's exactly what I was hoping 
>>> for. I mostly keep my tire repair stuff in it; pump, pressure gauge, spare 
>>> tube, puncture repair kit, 2 oz bottle of sealant, shop rag, and still a 
>>> little room to spare.
>>>
>>> If you're looking for a custom bag like this, or other bike bags and 
>>> handmade luggage, get in touch with Andy! Thanks for looking!
>>>
>>> -Brian
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Custom frame bag for Gus

[Eric Marth]

Nice Brian!

On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 10:21:05 AM UTC-5 Curtis wrote:

> Great looking bag and smart!
>
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 7:15 AM Brian Turner  wrote:
>
>> Photos here:
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jr243dfSx6YUyDiL7
>>
>> Ever since taking ownership of my Gus last Fall, I had designs on having 
>> a custom frame bag made for the space behind the seat tube on the frame. I 
>> guess it's the bikepacker in me, but it seems like there's just too much 
>> usable space there to not take advantage of it.
>>
>> I reached out to Andy Schmidt from Lords Luggage in Portland (he runs in 
>> the same bike scene circles as Rivelo John and Bantam Cycles Bob), and he 
>> enthusiastically accepted the challenge. Click the link above to check out 
>> the photos!
>>
>> I'm super pleased with the results... it's exactly what I was hoping for. 
>> I mostly keep my tire repair stuff in it; pump, pressure gauge, spare tube, 
>> puncture repair kit, 2 oz bottle of sealant, shop rag, and still a little 
>> room to spare.
>>
>> If you're looking for a custom bag like this, or other bike bags and 
>> handmade luggage, get in touch with Andy! Thanks for looking!
>>
>> -Brian
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

[Brian Forsee]

Also adding my vote/appreciation for the 1up. It is the best rack I have 
used, although 90% of time I use it I am carrying multiple mountain bikes 
so the fender is not an issue. The fact it contains 0 plastic was a big 
selling point for me. 

What I've done w/ fendered bikes is:

1. Push front wheel arm against the tire
2. Lightly push rear wheel arm against the rear fender
3. Put a strap around the rear rim and rack tray at the 6o'clock position. 
This is similar to how the thule T2 rack and some others operate. The front 
arm keeps the bike from falling over laterally or moving forward, and the 
strap keeps the rear wheel from bouncing up or the bike from moving 
backwards.

Another approach i've mocked up but not actually tried is moving the 
horizontal 'pin' in the rear wheel arm down so that it contacts the tire 
below the rear fender. This would provide secure resistance against forward 
and back motion, but would still require the extra strap to keep the rear 
wheel from bouncing up.

I had an older thule T2 for awhile. It did work well w/ fendered bikes but 
overall it was not as user friendly or well-built as the 1up imo.

-Brian

On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 10:43:05 PM UTC-6 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:

> You don’t have to go that hard. I just get super paranoid. I know the bike 
> can’t go anywhere but you never know…. 
>
> I personally think the Thule rack is easier to use but the 1Up is much 
> lighter. It installs in about a minute. 
>
> That 1Up fender attachment looks interesting. My mountain bike just got 
> fendered but I haven’t mounted it in the rack yet. I don’t know that I 
> would trust not being able to crush that tire (paranoia). 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 21, 2023, at 10:33 PM, DamonLee  wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> I thought the same thing Leah, it looks soft but not grippy therefore 
> requiring downwards force to hold it. The swagman looks good as it doesn't 
> rely on clamping the tops of the wheels in any capacity.
> The deformation on the tires in jacobs photo makes me think I'd never want 
> to put that kind of pressure on a fender.
>
> Damon
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 6:51:28 AM UTC+11 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> I am following this thread with interest. I have the Saris Freedom 4 bike 
>> rack, but that company seems to be lessening their quality and maybe even 
>> phasing out this rack. They have a new modular system they seem to want you 
>> to buy, and it isn’t going to play nice with mixtes with fenders. 
>>
>> Now, I have heard so much good about the 1Up rack, but honestly HOW is 
>> that fender cushion gonna work? Won’t it just mash my metal fenders? Push 
>> them out of shape? Mess up the alignment? Maybe someone with a fendered 
>> mixte wouldn’t mind posting it on their 1Up rack? 
>> Leah
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 8:44:49 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Toshi,
>>>
>>> Occasionally, you can find the Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a 
>>> claw on Craigslist:
>>>
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bop/d/bellevue-yakima-lockjaw-upright-roof/7587045203.html
>>>
>>> I have the Yakima Raptor roof rack with two trays. I recently modified 
>>> two trays into one for my 80" Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike. One day, I will not 
>>> be able to lift my bike over my head onto the tray. For now, it works. 
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 9:15:11 AM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:
>>>
 Hi Jacob—it looks like the rear wheel bar on the 1up would crunch on my 
 full coverage rear fender. What do you think?

 I use a Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a claw for my wife’s 
 Betty, but those racks don’t seem to be sold anymore.

 Another alternative is a trunk rack with a top tube adapter for step 
 throughs/mixtes.

 I bought a bar but have never needed to use it yet. Has anyone had any 
 luck with those?

 Toshi in Oakland 

 On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 4:30 AM Jacob Byard  wrote:

> I’ve got a 1up and a Thule t2. The Thule would not work with fenders. 
> My 1pu is the single bike option and does a great job. Here’s a pic with 
> an 
> xl Gus. Road solid for about 50 miles of interstate and country roads. 
>
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> -Jacob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 20, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Brian Turner  wrote:
>
> 
>
> If I had to do it all over, I’d definitely go with a 1up rack. My Küat 
> NV2.0 is great, and I’m fine with how it works with fenders and racks… 
> but 
> I feel like a 1up would be more secure in those cases. Also, my Medium 
> Gus 
> at 50” wheelbase is the absolute maximum length the Küat will handle.
>
> On Feb 20, 2023, at 1:05 AM, JAS  wrote:
>
> The 1Up rack has worked really well for me too.  It's spendy, but 
> well made and has worked well with my Clem, Platypus and Bike Friday (all 
> 

Re: [RBW] Custom frame bag for Gus

[Curtis McKenzie]

Great looking bag and smart!

On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 7:15 AM Brian Turner  wrote:

> Photos here:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jr243dfSx6YUyDiL7
>
> Ever since taking ownership of my Gus last Fall, I had designs on having a
> custom frame bag made for the space behind the seat tube on the frame. I
> guess it's the bikepacker in me, but it seems like there's just too much
> usable space there to not take advantage of it.
>
> I reached out to Andy Schmidt from Lords Luggage in Portland (he runs in
> the same bike scene circles as Rivelo John and Bantam Cycles Bob), and he
> enthusiastically accepted the challenge. Click the link above to check out
> the photos!
>
> I'm super pleased with the results... it's exactly what I was hoping for.
> I mostly keep my tire repair stuff in it; pump, pressure gauge, spare tube,
> puncture repair kit, 2 oz bottle of sealant, shop rag, and still a little
> room to spare.
>
> If you're looking for a custom bag like this, or other bike bags and
> handmade luggage, get in touch with Andy! Thanks for looking!
>
> -Brian
>
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[RBW] Custom frame bag for Gus

[Brian Turner]

Photos here:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jr243dfSx6YUyDiL7

Ever since taking ownership of my Gus last Fall, I had designs on having a 
custom frame bag made for the space behind the seat tube on the frame. I 
guess it's the bikepacker in me, but it seems like there's just too much 
usable space there to not take advantage of it.

I reached out to Andy Schmidt from Lords Luggage in Portland (he runs in 
the same bike scene circles as Rivelo John and Bantam Cycles Bob), and he 
enthusiastically accepted the challenge. Click the link above to check out 
the photos!

I'm super pleased with the results... it's exactly what I was hoping for. I 
mostly keep my tire repair stuff in it; pump, pressure gauge, spare tube, 
puncture repair kit, 2 oz bottle of sealant, shop rag, and still a little 
room to spare.

If you're looking for a custom bag like this, or other bike bags and 
handmade luggage, get in touch with Andy! Thanks for looking!

-Brian

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Re: [RBW] Re: Book recommendations for learning how to build up a bike

[Stephanie A.]

Yes! When I got the email announcing the series I knew I'd have to follow 
it. 
On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 2:46:04 PM UTC-5 Will M wrote:

> Hi again, Stephanie.  Did you see that Igor Shteynbuk at Velo Orange has 
> posed part 1 (of 4) in a video series building up a rando bike from 
> scratch?  Not a book, but useful?  
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUdpmiCokTc   
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 9:28:05 AM UTC-5 Stephanie A. wrote:
>
>> Thank you so much for all that you have shared. 
>>
>> Okay...I'll try to get by with all of the online resources you've shared 
>> and search through the libraries around me first.
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 6:14:53 PM UTC-5 Scott wrote:
>>
>>> Mackenzy:
>>>
>>> DITTO...
>>>
>>> Until just the other day I didn't know he passed away in 2008, RIP.
>>>
>>> The site is remarkably helpful for tips, DIY, and trivia things like cog 
>>> spacing...haha.
>>>
>>> Outside of Service Instructions it's my go to resource. Crazy the number 
>>> of topics that are covered. And, as you say, he wrote well such that his 
>>> guidance is easy reading.
>>>
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>>> 
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 3:55 PM, Mackenzy Albright
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Not to discourage books. I love books. Just an FYI I am a really really 
>>> really big fan of the Sheldon Brown website. Every time. i need to do a 
>>> thing to my bike that I cant remember how to do it i just type whatever I 
>>> need and sheldon brown.  like "chain length sheldon brown"  problem solved. 
>>>
>>> I love that every write up is well written. builds in problem solving 
>>> and issues based DIY compatibility options instead of assuming group sets 
>>> and new parts. etc. 
>>>
>>> I wish somebody would just compile the sheldon brown website into a 
>>> hardcover book. ISOLA PRESS. After jobst brant - here is your next project! 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 10:14:20 AM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>>
>>> My experience with bike mechanic books is that they all say the same 
>>> stuff, but in different ways, with different styles of illustrations or 
>>> photographs, and in varying degrees of detail. It might be worth a trip to 
>>> the library to flip through a few of them and see what jives with your 
>>> experience and preferences.
>>>
>>> The one I used as a kid was called something like "How to fix your 
>>> bicycle" and it just confused me (and my dad who is a competent mechanic). 
>>> So definitely skim anything you can before you buy it.
>>>
>>> The content I would really want in a book is tips and tricks, like how 
>>> to hold everything just right to get the cable tension for my brakes 
>>> perfect and what parts are compatible with other parts (like using a 9 
>>> speed chain on 8 speed cassettes, or using Shimano road shifters with 
>>> mountain derailers). I don't know of a book that has that stuff, but I bet 
>>> there is one out there that does.
>>>
>>> Paul in AR
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 9:08:04 AM UTC-6 Stephanie A. wrote:
>>>
>>> As I continue to change things on my current bike, I've realize that 
>>> what I really want is a book that helps me understand building up and 
>>> maintaining a bike. YouTube videos and helpful websites are great. I'm so 
>>> thankful that they exist. But my brain craves a single, cohesively written 
>>> text I can easily read through and turn to when I'm thinking about changing 
>>> shifters, selecting different drivetrain parts, understanding geometry, 
>>> taking apart bikes, wiring, and making adjustments. I really only see 
>>> myself dealing with non-fixie commuters and touring bikes.
>>>
>>> I found a book online called *How to Build a Bike (in a Weekend)* by 
>>> Alan Anderson with illustrations by Lee John Phillips. Has anyone used 
>>> this? Does anyone have other suggestions?
>>>
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