[RBW] Re: FS: MKS Grip Monarch Gamma "Panda" Pedals

[Matthew Williams]

Sold!

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 1:40:58 PM UTC-8 Matthew Williams wrote:

> MKS Grip Monarch Gamma “panda” pedals.
>
> New in the box. Never mounted or used.
>
> $90 with local pickup in the SF Bay Area. Add $15 for shipping to points 
> beyond.
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Brazed Bullmoose Bars

[Matthew Williams]

Sold!

On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 8:35:28 PM UTC-8 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Hi everyone, I’m selling a set of nearly-new brazed Bullmoose bars. 
>
> No bends, wrecks, or alterations.
>
> $180. Free shipping anywhere in the continental US of A.
>
> Local pickup available in the San Francisco Bay Area.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders Interactive Map is Live!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Huzzahhh And yes, I live at the slimy bottom of a doubly superfunded 
ultracontaminated waterway! Or close enough to worry at least. 

from Flood zone B/C
-Kai

On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 11:06:19 PM UTC-4 John Rinker wrote:

> And Kai from (40.7149091, -73.9313736) wins the 100th pin award!
>
>
> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 10:41:21 AM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Cheers to all! It's been fun watching the pins drop and the map fill in 
>> with little bicycle bubbles. 
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 7:58:01 AM UTC-7 RichS wrote:
>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> Many thanks for creating the map. Didn't take long for it to be heavily 
>>> populated!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rich in ATL
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 8:31:50 PM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:
>>>
 Nicely done, John!

 -Dave

 On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 6:33:08 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yes, thank you! This is great. I’m hoping this will open up a whole 
> new level of interaction and adventure among us RBW owners!
>
> On Mar 12, 2023, at 6:04 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> 
>
> John Rinker: Thank you, fun map!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

[Kim Hetzel]

You are more than welcome, Joyce.

Kim.


On Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 6:13 PM JAS  wrote:

> Kim, thanks for the tip about the parks pass.
>
> Joyce
> On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 11:21:24 AM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Joyce,
>>
>> You will need a Discovery Pass for the parking lot at Hyak. Not sure
>> about Rattlesnake Lake.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 10:32 AM JAS  wrote:
>>
>>> Kim,
>>> Thanks for the story about the John Wayne trail.  Your daughter will
>>> preserve those memories even if she isn't riding a bike now.  Good for you!
>>>
>>> I've often thought about riding that trail and now I'm going to look
>>> into it!  It will be especially fun if I can talk a couple of friends into
>>> going so we can leave cars at each end to avoid the uphill return.  I think
>>> I'll be more persuasive if I focus on the downhill aspect!  '
>>>
>>> Have a good time with your buddies and I hope you'll give us a ride
>>> report with photos.  Are you camping at Lake Easton SP or just doing the
>>> round-trip in one day?  Regardless of the plan, your Clem will shine.
>>>
>>> --Joyce
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 7:05:33 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 7:04:05 AM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote:

> I would like to share with this group my influence of bicycle riding
> with one of two of my daughters; my youngest.
>
> I have no guilt whatsoever in my case. I just have joy and happiness
> for all the good times that we shared in our bicycle adventures together
> during a period of when my daughter was in high school. Strong and solid
> memories were built.
>
> One of our greatest and most fun adventures was riding 22 miles
> downhill on The John Wayne Pioneer Trail located in Washington state going
> from Hyak at the summit at Snoqualmie Pass near Interstate 90 to
> Rattlesnake Lake. It was the Old Milwaukee railroad line that was active 
> up
> until the 1980's from Chicago to Seattle. Now, it is a recreational trail
> for hikers, bicyclists and horses that goes across the Washington state to
> Spokane and beyond.
>
>
> https://www.mtbproject.com/trail/7022864/john-wayne-pioneer-trail-hyak-to-rattlesnake-lake
>
> My daughter and I did this ride three different times back in 2010,
> 2011 and 2012. One of those years, we did the ride with a group; Mountains
> to Sound Green Trust, a conservatory non-profit organization.
>
> https://mtsgreenway.org/
>
> I sure did not like the idea of my bicycle; 1984 Raleigh Elkhorn,
> being tossed in and meshed up with other bicycles in the cargo hold of a
> large bus. My bike came out with scratches on the top tube. Ouch ! Was not
> going to do that anymore. Very unhappy !
>
> This coming June, I am planning on doing the ride again. However, I am
> going with two male friends of mine riding from Hyak to Lake Easton and
> back to Hyak. Then, we are going to ride from Hayk to Rattlesnake Lake. 
> I'm
> looking forward to riding my Clem smiling loudly 22 miles downhill !  Woo
> woo.
>
> My daughter does not ride her bicycles any more. She has taken another
> direction in her life. We still connect with one each other once a week
> going on long walks with her dog; keeping the father and daughter bond
> alive. I am very grateful for that.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

[JAS]

Kim, thanks for the tip about the parks pass.

Joyce
On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 11:21:24 AM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Joyce,
>
> You will need a Discovery Pass for the parking lot at Hyak. Not sure about 
> Rattlesnake Lake.
>
> Kim Hetzel. 
>
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 10:32 AM JAS  wrote:
>
>> Kim,
>> Thanks for the story about the John Wayne trail.  Your daughter will 
>> preserve those memories even if she isn't riding a bike now.  Good for you!
>>
>> I've often thought about riding that trail and now I'm going to look into 
>> it!  It will be especially fun if I can talk a couple of friends into going 
>> so we can leave cars at each end to avoid the uphill return.  I think I'll 
>> be more persuasive if I focus on the downhill aspect!  '
>>
>> Have a good time with your buddies and I hope you'll give us a ride 
>> report with photos.  Are you camping at Lake Easton SP or just doing the 
>> round-trip in one day?  Regardless of the plan, your Clem will shine.
>>
>> --Joyce
>>
>> On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 7:05:33 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 7:04:05 AM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote:
>>>
 I would like to share with this group my influence of bicycle riding 
 with one of two of my daughters; my youngest. 

 I have no guilt whatsoever in my case. I just have joy and happiness 
 for all the good times that we shared in our bicycle adventures together 
 during a period of when my daughter was in high school. Strong and solid 
 memories were built.

 One of our greatest and most fun adventures was riding 22 miles 
 downhill on The John Wayne Pioneer Trail located in Washington state going 
 from Hyak at the summit at Snoqualmie Pass near Interstate 90 to 
 Rattlesnake Lake. It was the Old Milwaukee railroad line that was active 
 up 
 until the 1980's from Chicago to Seattle. Now, it is a recreational trail 
 for hikers, bicyclists and horses that goes across the Washington state to 
 Spokane and beyond. 


 https://www.mtbproject.com/trail/7022864/john-wayne-pioneer-trail-hyak-to-rattlesnake-lake

 My daughter and I did this ride three different times back in 2010, 
 2011 and 2012. One of those years, we did the ride with a group; Mountains 
 to Sound Green Trust, a conservatory non-profit organization. 

 https://mtsgreenway.org/

 I sure did not like the idea of my bicycle; 1984 Raleigh Elkhorn, being 
 tossed in and meshed up with other bicycles in the cargo hold of a large 
 bus. My bike came out with scratches on the top tube. Ouch ! Was not going 
 to do that anymore. Very unhappy !

 This coming June, I am planning on doing the ride again. However, I am 
 going with two male friends of mine riding from Hyak to Lake Easton and 
 back to Hyak. Then, we are going to ride from Hayk to Rattlesnake Lake. 
 I'm 
 looking forward to riding my Clem smiling loudly 22 miles downhill !  Woo 
 woo. 

 My daughter does not ride her bicycles any more. She has taken another 
 direction in her life. We still connect with one each other once a week 
 going on long walks with her dog; keeping the father and daughter bond 
 alive. I am very grateful for that.

 Kim Hetzel
 Yelm, WA.

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Re: [RBW] Has anybody 650'ed a Riv Road?

[Doug Van Cleve]

FWIW,

Mine is a Joe Starck ‘99 (maybe the earlier Waterfords are different), but
it fits a true 32mm with Campy dual pivots…

Doug


On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 10:58 AM 'Peter Bridge' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Has anybody on the list 650'ed one of the old Rivendell Road frames, the
> ones that take short brakes and that max out at 28c tires?  What was the
> outcome?
>
> ~pb
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[RBW] Re: Has anybody 650'ed a Riv Road?

[Fullylugged]

I put 650B on a 54.5 frame so I could stand over it more comfortably (my 
normal size frame for a 700 wheel road bike is 50 cm). I put 12,500 + miles 
on it and loved it.  38 is the max size. I thought the handling in 
particular was great. YMMV. Conti makes a good 28 mm 650B tire, others 
available in wider widths from Soma, Compass, Panaracer, Michelin.

Tailwinds!

Bruce


On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 12:58:07 PM UTC-5 Peter Bridge wrote:

> Has anybody on the list 650'ed one of the old Rivendell Road frames, the 
> ones that take short brakes and that max out at 28c tires?  What was the 
> outcome?  
>
> ~pb
>

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[RBW] Re: Has anybody 650'ed a Riv Road?

[Matt Beecher]

That doesn't work.  You should just sell it to me, cheap.  :D  

I do think I have heard of people doing this, but I don't remember where I 
read that.  I've not tried myself, because I think I would still be limited 
to fairly narrow 650B wheels on my old road.  

Out of curiosity, did you get the pink one off craigslist?  If so, please 
don't paint it.  Be brave enough to ride pink. 

Best regards,
Matt 

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 12:58:07 PM UTC-5 Peter Bridge wrote:

> Has anybody on the list 650'ed one of the old Rivendell Road frames, the 
> ones that take short brakes and that max out at 28c tires?  What was the 
> outcome?  
>
> ~pb
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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv Road in Berkeley 58cm

[Joe Bernard]

GONE 

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 1:14:51 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> My somewhat vague memory is these were sized like a standard road bike of 
> the time: 58cm C-to-T ST and somewhere in the range of 57-59cm C-to-C TT. I 
> would place it somewhere between the 54.5 and 58cm current Homers. 
>
> But don't listen to me, hrab your measuring tape and get some numbers and 
> ride it! That's a rare steed in that color and the price is BIN. No 
> waiting, it's too storming to ride Tuesday anyway, buy a bike! 
>
> On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 12:42:12 AM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> Kevin – how do you think this sizing stacks up to contemporary Riv 
>> sizing? This bike’s stunning, I’m in SF, and I want to somehow spend money 
>> I don’t have 
>>
>> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 10:41:14 PM UTC-7 Kevin D norcal - santa 
>> rosa wrote:
>>
>>> noticed this on CL - no relation and not my size, but nice frame and 
>>> interesting mix of parts
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-rivendell-road/7598874979.html
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Cantilever Brake Incidentals Nitto, Suntour, Dia Compe, Ritchey, Surly

[Conway Bennett]

$84?

Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett
239.877.4119

On Sat, Mar 4, 2023, 6:19 PM Conway Bennett 
wrote:

> I'm amending this.  $134 net to me shipped in the lower 48.  My pricing is
> 50% off of items that you can still buy new and the lowest price I found on
> online resellers for items that are no longer in production, and I factored
> in the 16% eBay would take if I sold it there.
>
>
> Fair winds,
>
> Captain Conway Bennett
> 239.877.4119
>
> On Sat, Mar 4, 2023, 3:57 PM Conway Bennett <
> captainconwaybenn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here's a lot of nice cantilever brake incidentals.  I'm out of that
>> ecosystem, so I want to sell the whole lot.  It's not really worth the
>> grief of running to USPS multiple times and charging folks $9 for $20
>> parts.  The Ritchey/Dia Compe cable stops is 28.8.  Pictures are linked
>> below:
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Lsb1onAm77tMs5Hr6
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Re: [RBW] Seat Post Slippage

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

FWIW, I have been advised in the past that, for standard (alloy, steel) frames 
and seat posts, you should never have to resort to anti-slip grease. 

A slipping post is a sign that something is mechanically wrong. In one case, 
the seat collar on one of my bikes had a small protrusion that was preventing 
it from gripping the post properly, leading to slipping. Once that was fixed (a 
few seconds with a file) everything worked properly.

The mechanics I trust have said that the proper course of action is to find the 
mechanical problem, not apply friction paste. The paste is a band-aid on the 
real problem, which will still be there.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

> On Mar 14, 2023, at 11:20 AM, Brian Turner  wrote:
> 
> The Park Tool SuperGrip compound is supposed to be for carbon or alloy use. 
> I've heard it really doesn't matter though; apparently stuff that's 
> advertised for carbon fiber can also be used on steel and aluminum... I've 
> just never had to actually use it before. I would be surprised if the Nitto 
> S-83 26.8 post is somehow "off" in sizing. I mean, it's Nitto after all. I've 
> had the bike since October but it has only started slipping in the past 
> couple of weeks, so I'm not sure what has changed to cause it to do so. I can 
> see how the machined grooves on a Thomson or the cheapo Kalloys that a lot of 
> Rivs come with would help to prevent slippage. My main issue with Thomson 
> posts is that they do not provide enough setback for me, and I won't use the 
> Kalloys because I can't stand single bolt saddle clamps.
> 
> On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 1:28:46 PM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I've never needed anti-slip compound on any of my steel, aluminum or ti 
>> frames.  Are you sure it's not the seatpost that's off in sizing? I 
>> discovered, for instance, that the kalloy that came with my Roadini was just 
>> no good. Replaced it with a Thomson and the problem just magically went 
>> away. I did notice that the Thomson seatposts have some milling that might 
>> improve grip, but then again, the cheapo seatpost on my Airborne mountain 
>> bike (aluminum frame) never slipped either, so that milling probably isn't 
>> even necessary. My impression with anti-slip compound was that it was for 
>> carbon fiber seatposts (and I have cracked those) which can't stand getting 
>> torqued.
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Seat Post Slippage

[藍俊彪]

+1 on the single bolt seatposts. Those are the worst. I've always ended up
with a Thomson because way back in the 1990s they were the only 2-bolt
seatposts. Are there any alternatives nowadays? The Thomsons are pretty
spendy for something that seems like you could easily copy it.

On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 11:20 AM Brian Turner  wrote:

> The Park Tool SuperGrip compound is supposed to be for carbon or alloy
> use. I've heard it really doesn't matter though; apparently stuff that's
> advertised for carbon fiber can also be used on steel and aluminum... I've
> just never had to actually use it before. I would be surprised if the Nitto
> S-83 26.8 post is somehow "off" in sizing. I mean, it's Nitto after all.
> I've had the bike since October but it has only started slipping in the
> past couple of weeks, so I'm not sure what has changed to cause it to do
> so. I can see how the machined grooves on a Thomson or the cheapo Kalloys
> that a lot of Rivs come with would help to prevent slippage. My main issue
> with Thomson posts is that they do not provide enough setback for me, and I
> won't use the Kalloys because I can't stand single bolt saddle clamps.
>
> On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 1:28:46 PM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've never needed anti-slip compound on any of my steel, aluminum or ti
>> frames.  Are you sure it's not the seatpost that's off in sizing? I
>> discovered, for instance, that the kalloy that came with my Roadini was
>> just no good. Replaced it with a Thomson and the problem just magically
>> went away. I did notice that the Thomson seatposts have some milling that
>> might improve grip, but then again, the cheapo seatpost on my Airborne
>> mountain bike (aluminum frame) never slipped either, so that milling
>> probably isn't even necessary. My impression with anti-slip compound was
>> that it was for carbon fiber seatposts (and I have cracked those) which
>> can't stand getting torqued.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

[Kim Hetzel]

Joyce,

You will need a Discovery Pass for the parking lot at Hyak. Not sure about
Rattlesnake Lake.

Kim Hetzel.

On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 10:32 AM JAS  wrote:

> Kim,
> Thanks for the story about the John Wayne trail.  Your daughter will
> preserve those memories even if she isn't riding a bike now.  Good for you!
>
> I've often thought about riding that trail and now I'm going to look into
> it!  It will be especially fun if I can talk a couple of friends into going
> so we can leave cars at each end to avoid the uphill return.  I think I'll
> be more persuasive if I focus on the downhill aspect!  '
>
> Have a good time with your buddies and I hope you'll give us a ride report
> with photos.  Are you camping at Lake Easton SP or just doing the
> round-trip in one day?  Regardless of the plan, your Clem will shine.
>
> --Joyce
>
> On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 7:05:33 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 7:04:05 AM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to share with this group my influence of bicycle riding
>>> with one of two of my daughters; my youngest.
>>>
>>> I have no guilt whatsoever in my case. I just have joy and happiness for
>>> all the good times that we shared in our bicycle adventures together during
>>> a period of when my daughter was in high school. Strong and solid memories
>>> were built.
>>>
>>> One of our greatest and most fun adventures was riding 22 miles downhill
>>> on The John Wayne Pioneer Trail located in Washington state going from Hyak
>>> at the summit at Snoqualmie Pass near Interstate 90 to Rattlesnake Lake. It
>>> was the Old Milwaukee railroad line that was active up until the 1980's
>>> from Chicago to Seattle. Now, it is a recreational trail for hikers,
>>> bicyclists and horses that goes across the Washington state to Spokane and
>>> beyond.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.mtbproject.com/trail/7022864/john-wayne-pioneer-trail-hyak-to-rattlesnake-lake
>>>
>>> My daughter and I did this ride three different times back in 2010, 2011
>>> and 2012. One of those years, we did the ride with a group; Mountains to
>>> Sound Green Trust, a conservatory non-profit organization.
>>>
>>> https://mtsgreenway.org/
>>>
>>> I sure did not like the idea of my bicycle; 1984 Raleigh Elkhorn, being
>>> tossed in and meshed up with other bicycles in the cargo hold of a large
>>> bus. My bike came out with scratches on the top tube. Ouch ! Was not going
>>> to do that anymore. Very unhappy !
>>>
>>> This coming June, I am planning on doing the ride again. However, I am
>>> going with two male friends of mine riding from Hyak to Lake Easton and
>>> back to Hyak. Then, we are going to ride from Hayk to Rattlesnake Lake. I'm
>>> looking forward to riding my Clem smiling loudly 22 miles downhill !  Woo
>>> woo.
>>>
>>> My daughter does not ride her bicycles any more. She has taken another
>>> direction in her life. We still connect with one each other once a week
>>> going on long walks with her dog; keeping the father and daughter bond
>>> alive. I am very grateful for that.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Has anybody 650'ed a Riv Road?

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

My ’97 Riv Road came to me with 650B wheels. I ran 38mm tires on it, which were 
the widest that would fit between the chainstays.

It was fun, but about a year ago I switched it back to 700c wheels, which 
required different brakes (the long reach brakes needed to work with the 650B 
wheels didn’t work with 700c).

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> On Mar 14, 2023, at 10:58 AM, 'Peter Bridge' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> Has anybody on the list 650'ed one of the old Rivendell Road frames, the ones 
> that take short brakes and that max out at 28c tires?  What was the outcome?  
> 
> ~pb
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Re: [RBW] Re: Seat Post Slippage

[Brian Turner]

The Park Tool SuperGrip compound is supposed to be for carbon or alloy use. 
I've heard it really doesn't matter though; apparently stuff that's 
advertised for carbon fiber can also be used on steel and aluminum... I've 
just never had to actually use it before. I would be surprised if the Nitto 
S-83 26.8 post is somehow "off" in sizing. I mean, it's Nitto after all. 
I've had the bike since October but it has only started slipping in the 
past couple of weeks, so I'm not sure what has changed to cause it to do 
so. I can see how the machined grooves on a Thomson or the cheapo Kalloys 
that a lot of Rivs come with would help to prevent slippage. My main issue 
with Thomson posts is that they do not provide enough setback for me, and I 
won't use the Kalloys because I can't stand single bolt saddle clamps.

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 1:28:46 PM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've never needed anti-slip compound on any of my steel, aluminum or ti 
> frames.  Are you sure it's not the seatpost that's off in sizing? I 
> discovered, for instance, that the kalloy that came with my Roadini was 
> just no good. Replaced it with a Thomson and the problem just magically 
> went away. I did notice that the Thomson seatposts have some milling that 
> might improve grip, but then again, the cheapo seatpost on my Airborne 
> mountain bike (aluminum frame) never slipped either, so that milling 
> probably isn't even necessary. My impression with anti-slip compound was 
> that it was for carbon fiber seatposts (and I have cracked those) which 
> can't stand getting torqued.
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Re: [RBW] Has anybody 650'ed a Riv Road?

[Cody Marvin]

I have one, a '95, that I bought recently and put a few miles on before
taking it apart and sending it off for a repaint at Waterford. It had 650 x
38 Pari-Motos with Tektro 556s. My experience riding it has been limited so
far, but it was a fun ride, no problems that I could see. I think the
person who I bought it from, and who did the conversion, put a lot of miles
on it with the 650b.

Cody in Chicago

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> Has anybody on the list 650'ed one of the old Rivendell Road frames, the
> ones that take short brakes and that max out at 28c tires?  What was the
> outcome?
>
> ~pb
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 55 cm Bosco Bar

[Conway Bennett]

Sold!  Pirate Ship was not that bad either.


Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett
239.877.4119

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023, 6:02 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> The way I understand it now is if I wanted the bar I would make sure he
> sees $81 in his account and he pays whatever he can sort out to ship it to
> me. The way I phrase this when I post stuff is "$81 shipped", he says it
> differently.
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 1:01:05 PM UTC-7 jad...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> so is it shipped price or buyer pays shipping I guess I am confused now.
>> which sometimes does not take much.
>>
>> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 10:51:04 AM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Ok it's my misunderstanding of "net", which I read as the bars leave
>>> your place and you've got $81 in your pocket. All cleared up!
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 5:24:19 AM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Joe,

 My pitch is that you save via not paying tax and shipping.  If you've
 shipped bars you'll get that this is a fair deal.

 On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 11:17:03 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Am I misunderstanding the post or is the bar $81 plus shipping? That's
> the new price from Riv.
>
> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 7:56:12 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I have a lightly used 55 cm Bosco Bar I took off my wife's bike and
>> swapped for my Albatross setup.  $81 net to me shipped in the lower 48.
>> It's in excellent condition,so my pitch is that you save tax and 
>> shipping.
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[RBW] Has anybody 650'ed a Riv Road?

['Peter Bridge' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Has anybody on the list 650'ed one of the old Rivendell Road frames, the 
ones that take short brakes and that max out at 28c tires?  What was the 
outcome?  

~pb

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seat Post Slippage

[藍俊彪]

I've never needed anti-slip compound on any of my steel, aluminum or ti
frames.  Are you sure it's not the seatpost that's off in sizing? I
discovered, for instance, that the kalloy that came with my Roadini was
just no good. Replaced it with a Thomson and the problem just magically
went away. I did notice that the Thomson seatposts have some milling that
might improve grip, but then again, the cheapo seatpost on my Airborne
mountain bike (aluminum frame) never slipped either, so that milling
probably isn't even necessary. My impression with anti-slip compound was
that it was for carbon fiber seatposts (and I have cracked those) which
can't stand getting torqued.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seat Post Slippage

[Richard Rose]

Brian, this is interesting to me because I could not get my S83 to go in the seat tube of my Gus. I too have always used Phil grease. The Kalloy post (also 26.8) slid right in. I am certain I could have gotten the S83 in there but did not want to scratch it Al up doing so. So far the Kalloy has not slipped - just two rides in. If it does I may just use carbon paste. I did that for my handlebar clamp and the Bosco has yet to slip.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 14, 2023, at 1:13 PM, Brian Turner  wrote:I too am curious as to how to use the SuperGrip compound on a seatpost. Normally, I would lightly grease the entire post (from the clamp area on down) with some Phil grease. With these gripping compounds, do you still use regular grease on the post but apply the grip compound to the area where the binder or seatpost clamp grips the post? Or are you supposed to use the grip compound on the entire post in lieu of regular grease?The Nitto S83 on my Gus has started slipping just a bit. I've torqued the binder bolt to 10 nm, but I'm afraid to tighten it much more than that because I don't want to break it. Most other bike I've had, I've tightened to no more than 8 nm, and they've held fine. This is the first post I've had that has had slippage issues.On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 4:09:19 PM UTC-4 brizbarn wrote:I had the same problem with my Appaloosa.  I did not grease the binder bolt at the head, or the threads. It slipped on my first ride, then broke when trying to tighten it down more.  I had an extra nut and bolt at home that I grease in both spots, and it has held tight since.  Something easy to overlook on a build.  On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 9:35:00 AM UTC-8 Drew Henson wrote:Update - I put some park tool super grip on there for a little extra stickiness. Anyone have experience with this stuff? Do you just use this alone on a seat post or is it combined with some grease on the lower part of the post? On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 7:57:02 AM UTC-8 Drew Henson wrote:Whelp greasing the clamp bolt worked, much to my amazement, which will at least hold me over until the nitto seat post and carbon paste shows up. One of the great things about bikes is one tiny thing can make all the difference. And one of the great things about this group is all the knowledge to be shared.Speaking of greasing the bolts, here is the new sam waiting at the swinging bridge over the Duwamish River this morning. Those in the Seattle area know that this bridge was recently closed to replace a hydraulic cylinder that allows the bridge to swing open. This is the main bike route out of West Seattle and it was a major pain to commute with it out of commission. Thankfully it's back in action! On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 6:23:56 AM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote:Yup. I worked with Rivendell on my kalloy seatpost that came with the Roadini slipping. Greased the binder bolt, etc. Darn thing still slipped, and in any case that kalloy would never stay level (I guess I know why all those pictures of Rivendell bikes have saddles pointed upwards!). I gave up and bought a Thomson Elite masterpiece and never had a problem since. The Thompson also had the advantage of being a 2 bolt seatpost that's infinitely adjustable and doesn't nose itself upwards.On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 12:14:39 PM UTC-8 Drew Henson wrote:Anyone have any issues with the stock seat post (the one included with the frame) slipping with the latest sam frames? Happened to me on my first shakedown ride yesterday. I have a new nitto stem and some park tool supergrip on the way but was curious if anyone else experienced this. Or if there's any advice on using the park tool super grip?



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[RBW] Re: Seat Post Slippage

[Brian Turner]

I too am curious as to how to use the SuperGrip compound on a seatpost. 
Normally, I would lightly grease the entire post (from the clamp area on 
down) with some Phil grease. With these gripping compounds, do you still 
use regular grease on the post but apply the grip compound to the area 
where the binder or seatpost clamp grips the post? Or are you supposed to 
use the grip compound on the entire post in lieu of regular grease?

The Nitto S83 on my Gus has started slipping just a bit. I've torqued the 
binder bolt to 10 nm, but I'm afraid to tighten it much more than that 
because I don't want to break it. Most other bike I've had, I've tightened 
to no more than 8 nm, and they've held fine. This is the first post I've 
had that has had slippage issues.

On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 4:09:19 PM UTC-4 brizbarn wrote:

> I had the same problem with my Appaloosa.  I did not grease the binder 
> bolt at the head, or the threads. It slipped on my first ride, then broke 
> when trying to tighten it down more.  I had an extra nut and bolt at home 
> that I grease in both spots, and it has held tight since.  Something easy 
> to overlook on a build.  
> On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 9:35:00 AM UTC-8 Drew Henson wrote:
>
>> Update - I put some park tool super grip on there for a little extra 
>> stickiness. Anyone have experience with this stuff? Do you just use this 
>> alone on a seat post or is it combined with some grease on the lower part 
>> of the post? 
>>
>> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 7:57:02 AM UTC-8 Drew Henson wrote:
>>
>>> Whelp greasing the clamp bolt worked, much to my amazement, which will 
>>> at least hold me over until the nitto seat post and carbon paste shows up. 
>>> One of the great things about bikes is one tiny thing can make all the 
>>> difference. And one of the great things about this group is all the 
>>> knowledge to be shared.
>>>
>>> Speaking of greasing the bolts, here is the new sam waiting at the 
>>> swinging bridge over the Duwamish River this morning. Those in the Seattle 
>>> area know that this bridge was recently closed to replace a hydraulic 
>>> cylinder that allows the bridge to swing open. This is the main bike route 
>>> out of West Seattle and it was a major pain to commute with it out of 
>>> commission. Thankfully it's back in action!
>>> [image: Image.jpeg]
>>> [image: Image (3).jpeg]
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 6:23:56 AM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Yup. I worked with Rivendell on my kalloy seatpost that came with the 
 Roadini slipping. Greased the binder bolt, etc. Darn thing still slipped, 
 and in any case that kalloy would never stay level (I guess I know why all 
 those pictures of Rivendell bikes have saddles pointed upwards!). I gave 
 up 
 and bought a Thomson Elite masterpiece and never had a problem since. The 
 Thompson also had the advantage of being a 2 bolt seatpost that's 
 infinitely adjustable and doesn't nose itself upwards.

 On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 12:14:39 PM UTC-8 Drew Henson wrote:

> Anyone have any issues with the stock seat post (the one included with 
> the frame) slipping with the latest sam frames? Happened to me on my 
> first 
> shakedown ride yesterday. 
>
> I have a new nitto stem and some park tool supergrip on the way but 
> was curious if anyone else experienced this. Or if there's any advice on 
> using the park tool super grip?
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Marinoni Turismo

[Damien]

Will, I'd love to see shots of your '83 Marinoni!

On Monday, 13 March 2023 at 15:10:30 UTC-4 wboe...@gmail.com wrote:

> I love my '83 Marinoni, especially as it fits 35s under short reach 
> brakes.  Made for Margaret van den Bergh, as attested on the fork crown 
> :).  
>
> Will
> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 2:03:08 PM UTC-4 Ian A wrote:
>
>> It's the original adventure bike for a spot of viaduct camping in Baja 
>> California! Cactus thorns notwithstanding.
>>
>> IanA
>>
>> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 10:28:25 AM UTC-6 Damien wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I know this has been sitting there for a bit but thought I'd try and 
>>> bring it back up to the top. Any interest in this at *$1,000 USD*? I'm 
>>> happy to throw on the original 3TTT bars/stem if you so desire as well. 
>>> Anyways, let me know if any questions or interest. My 5 month old's diapers 
>>> are getting expensive!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Damien
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 2 August 2022 at 10:34:14 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>
 Hi all, dropping to $1,100 USD!

 Thank you,
 Damien

 On Friday, 29 July 2022 at 12:49:38 UTC-4 Damien wrote:

> Ian - thanks for the bump! Really cool to hear (and see!) where your 
> Marinoni has been - Alberta/BC tour looks amazing
>
> Damien 
>
> On Thursday, 28 July 2022 at 17:30:59 UTC-4 Ian A wrote:
>
>> A bump for Damien! I have a c1999 Marinoni Turismo that has taken me 
>> to the tip of South America and much more recently at 20 day, 2600km 
>> tour 
>> through Alberta and BC. Mine, curiously, had an SLX sticker (not SPX) 
>> and I 
>> suspect it was a special order, but it came to me used in 2008 and I 
>> never 
>> met the first owner. Superb road manners, great for rando rides and 
>> light 
>> or loaded touring. Mine just takes 35mm tires under fenders and as a 
>> sealed 
>> road tourer, it's hard to imagine a better choice.
>>
>> IanA Alberta Canada
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 7:50:00 AM UTC-6 Damien wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all! Dropping price to $1,200 USD!
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Damien
>>>
>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 13:42:24 UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>>
 Yep, the other was larger, but these are pretty cool, imo. 


 https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage-sales/1002852-marinoni-special-triple-rings-cantilever-brakes-great-condition.html

 On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 12:34:44 PM UTC-5 Matt Beecher wrote:

> Very cool.  I love purple bikes and I remember one like this 
> several years back on Bikeforums.  I think it was taller though, as I 
> recall considering it, but the bike sold before I could finalize a 
> deal.  
>
> Good luck with the sale.
>
> Best regards,
> Matt
>
> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 12:03:38 AM UTC-5 Damien wrote:
>
>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 01:02:20 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>
>>> aaand a few more pics
>>>
>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 01:01:25 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>
 Bit of a backstory: I bought this bike and set it up with high 
 upright handlebars with the intention of having my dad ride it. 
 Unfortunately he had a significant health scare very recently 
 (still not 
 recovered) and I realized that he's not really going to use it. 
 Plus he's 
 got some 90's Rocky Mountain which he won't let go of, and I 
 thought, 
 "well, if he's happy with this, I'm happy too." So, I tinkered a 
 bit and 
 tried to find a way to have this fit me but I could not get 
 comfortable 
 myself on it (I'm an 80 PBH, standover on this is 81-82, and the 
 reach 
 still felt a bit long for me even with a short stem and compact 
 bars - and 
 I'm on a 51 in both a Sam and Hunqapillar and don't feel I would 
 have a 
 need for it even if it did fit). So, I thought someone here might 
 appreciate. 

 Hopefully it is ok to post this here and even if no interest, 
 I'm hoping someone will find that the bike is at least cool to 
 look at. It 
 really is nice and makes me wish I was taller and longer limbed.

 On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 00:59:36 UTC-4 Damien wrote:

> Unfortunately selling this lovely bike.
>
> 2001 Marinoni Turismo Columbus SPX frame and fork
> 56 cm top tube length
> ~ 81-82 cm standover
> Campagnolo Veloce 9x3 speed shifters
> Campagnolo Veloce RD
> Campagnolo Triple Crankset
> Campagnolo Triple FD

[RBW] Re: FS: Marinoni Turismo

[Damien]

Looks oddly cosy?

On Monday, 13 March 2023 at 14:03:08 UTC-4 Ian A wrote:

> It's the original adventure bike for a spot of viaduct camping in Baja 
> California! Cactus thorns notwithstanding.
>
> IanA
>
> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 10:28:25 AM UTC-6 Damien wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I know this has been sitting there for a bit but thought I'd try and 
>> bring it back up to the top. Any interest in this at *$1,000 USD*? I'm 
>> happy to throw on the original 3TTT bars/stem if you so desire as well. 
>> Anyways, let me know if any questions or interest. My 5 month old's diapers 
>> are getting expensive!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Damien
>>
>> On Tuesday, 2 August 2022 at 10:34:14 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all, dropping to $1,100 USD!
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Damien
>>>
>>> On Friday, 29 July 2022 at 12:49:38 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>
 Ian - thanks for the bump! Really cool to hear (and see!) where your 
 Marinoni has been - Alberta/BC tour looks amazing

 Damien 

 On Thursday, 28 July 2022 at 17:30:59 UTC-4 Ian A wrote:

> A bump for Damien! I have a c1999 Marinoni Turismo that has taken me 
> to the tip of South America and much more recently at 20 day, 2600km tour 
> through Alberta and BC. Mine, curiously, had an SLX sticker (not SPX) and 
> I 
> suspect it was a special order, but it came to me used in 2008 and I 
> never 
> met the first owner. Superb road manners, great for rando rides and light 
> or loaded touring. Mine just takes 35mm tires under fenders and as a 
> sealed 
> road tourer, it's hard to imagine a better choice.
>
> IanA Alberta Canada
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 7:50:00 AM UTC-6 Damien wrote:
>
>> Hi all! Dropping price to $1,200 USD!
>>
>> Thanks
>> Damien
>>
>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 13:42:24 UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>
>>> Yep, the other was larger, but these are pretty cool, imo. 
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage-sales/1002852-marinoni-special-triple-rings-cantilever-brakes-great-condition.html
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 12:34:44 PM UTC-5 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>>
 Very cool.  I love purple bikes and I remember one like this 
 several years back on Bikeforums.  I think it was taller though, as I 
 recall considering it, but the bike sold before I could finalize a 
 deal.  

 Good luck with the sale.

 Best regards,
 Matt

 On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 12:03:38 AM UTC-5 Damien wrote:

> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 01:02:20 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>
>> aaand a few more pics
>>
>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 01:01:25 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>
>>> Bit of a backstory: I bought this bike and set it up with high 
>>> upright handlebars with the intention of having my dad ride it. 
>>> Unfortunately he had a significant health scare very recently 
>>> (still not 
>>> recovered) and I realized that he's not really going to use it. 
>>> Plus he's 
>>> got some 90's Rocky Mountain which he won't let go of, and I 
>>> thought, 
>>> "well, if he's happy with this, I'm happy too." So, I tinkered a 
>>> bit and 
>>> tried to find a way to have this fit me but I could not get 
>>> comfortable 
>>> myself on it (I'm an 80 PBH, standover on this is 81-82, and the 
>>> reach 
>>> still felt a bit long for me even with a short stem and compact 
>>> bars - and 
>>> I'm on a 51 in both a Sam and Hunqapillar and don't feel I would 
>>> have a 
>>> need for it even if it did fit). So, I thought someone here might 
>>> appreciate. 
>>>
>>> Hopefully it is ok to post this here and even if no interest, 
>>> I'm hoping someone will find that the bike is at least cool to look 
>>> at. It 
>>> really is nice and makes me wish I was taller and longer limbed.
>>>
>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 00:59:36 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>
 Unfortunately selling this lovely bike.

 2001 Marinoni Turismo Columbus SPX frame and fork
 56 cm top tube length
 ~ 81-82 cm standover
 Campagnolo Veloce 9x3 speed shifters
 Campagnolo Veloce RD
 Campagnolo Triple Crankset
 Campagnolo Triple FD
 new cables and housing throughout
 new Nitto x Crust Shaka Bars
 new Nitto x Crust 60mm quill stem
 new Black Inc bar tape
 Ambrosio 36 hole rims laced to Campagnolo Hubs
 Blackburn Front and Rear Touring Racks
 Will not come with the Brooks B17 in the pics but will come 
 with a used Brooks Cambium saddle

[RBW] Re: Downtube bosses predicament

[KenP]

Yep, been there too.  Usually an easy-out works if done carefully as 
mentioned in the other posts. You have to get that hole centered and 
deeper.  Usually works.  One more idea; drill the whole thing out bigger 
and put in a helicoil to replace the threads.  One more idea; take off the 
boss completely and there are strap-on bosses made for bikes that don't 
have any type of stops--a yucky fix though.  Riv used to sell them, you 
could give them a call.  

On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 2:43:21 PM UTC-5 ryan.tre...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello everyone, I've gotten myself into a bit of a predicament with one of 
> my downtube bosses; I've sheared off the bolt flush with the brazed on boss 
> (see pic below).  Any ideas on how to extract it?  I've tried using a drill 
> extractor bit with my drill, but didn't work. 
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ryan
>
> [image: 3DE5D487-0675-43CD-85A8-74193FE2964C.jpg]
>

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[RBW] WT Rent or Borrow bike In Henderson, NV

[Roberta]

Does anyone have, or know of a place, I could rent a non-strut bike with 
upright handlebar while I’m visiting? Prefer nonRiv.   I’m also willing 
(would love) to buy an inexpensive one from CL and give it to you 
afterwards.  83pbh, 52-54ish / 18-20” ish frame size. 

Please contact me off list. 

Thanks,
Roberta 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv Road in Berkeley 58cm

[Luke Hendrickson]

Ha! Thanks much, Joe. Since I fit the MIT Atlantis in the 62cm variant, 
this isn’t quite my size. Thankfully this means no explaining required to 
my wife as to why I have yet another bike…

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 1:14:51 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> My somewhat vague memory is these were sized like a standard road bike of 
> the time: 58cm C-to-T ST and somewhere in the range of 57-59cm C-to-C TT. I 
> would place it somewhere between the 54.5 and 58cm current Homers. 
>
> But don't listen to me, hrab your measuring tape and get some numbers and 
> ride it! That's a rare steed in that color and the price is BIN. No 
> waiting, it's too storming to ride Tuesday anyway, buy a bike! 
>
> On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 12:42:12 AM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> Kevin – how do you think this sizing stacks up to contemporary Riv 
>> sizing? This bike’s stunning, I’m in SF, and I want to somehow spend money 
>> I don’t have 
>>
>> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 10:41:14 PM UTC-7 Kevin D norcal - santa 
>> rosa wrote:
>>
>>> noticed this on CL - no relation and not my size, but nice frame and 
>>> interesting mix of parts
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-rivendell-road/7598874979.html
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv Road in Berkeley 58cm

[Joe Bernard]

My somewhat vague memory is these were sized like a standard road bike of 
the time: 58cm C-to-T ST and somewhere in the range of 57-59cm C-to-C TT. I 
would place it somewhere between the 54.5 and 58cm current Homers. 

But don't listen to me, hrab your measuring tape and get some numbers and 
ride it! That's a rare steed in that color and the price is BIN. No 
waiting, it's too storming to ride Tuesday anyway, buy a bike! 

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 12:42:12 AM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> Kevin – how do you think this sizing stacks up to contemporary Riv sizing? 
> This bike’s stunning, I’m in SF, and I want to somehow spend money I don’t 
> have 
>
> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 10:41:14 PM UTC-7 Kevin D norcal - santa rosa 
> wrote:
>
>> noticed this on CL - no relation and not my size, but nice frame and 
>> interesting mix of parts
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-rivendell-road/7598874979.html
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv Road in Berkeley 58cm

[Luke Hendrickson]

Kevin – how do you think this sizing stacks up to contemporary Riv sizing? 
This bike’s stunning, I’m in SF, and I want to somehow spend money I don’t 
have 

On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 10:41:14 PM UTC-7 Kevin D norcal - santa rosa 
wrote:

> noticed this on CL - no relation and not my size, but nice frame and 
> interesting mix of parts
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-rivendell-road/7598874979.html
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Velocity Cliffhanger Dynamo Wheelset & Rene Herse Fleecer Ridge Tires

[Mitch]

send ya a message!

On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 8:25:10 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
wrote:

> I have a 700c/29er Cliffhanger wheelset for sale with a budget Shimano 
> front dynamo hub (100mm, QR) and Shimano RS400 rear hub (135mm, QR). Rim 
> brake. 36h. Currently mounted tubeless w/Rene Herse Fleecer Ridge tires 
> (29x2.2 aka 700Cx55) Endurance Plus casing. Low mileage on both, lots of 
> life left in them. 
>
> Can sell as a set (preferred) or a la carte. $400 local pick up in 
> Brooklyn, NY. (Willing to ship if I don't find a local buyer, but you cover 
> final shipping & packaging.) Can provide more pics on request. 
> [image: IMG-0681.jpg]
>

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