[RBW] Re: ISO/WTB: SILVER Soma High Rider XL Quill Stem Riser 28.6/22.2 x 290mm

[Kim H.]

A group member came forward to offer me a SILVER Soma High Rider XL Quill 
Stem Riser sooner than the other two members were expected to be back home. 
It expected to be here this Thursday, December 7th. 

Thank-you all for those who responded. I appreciate it very much.

Kim Hetzel. 

On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 11:10:59 AM UTC-8 Kim H. wrote:

> I have scoured the internet to find a silver Soma High Rider XL Quill Stem 
> Adapter 28.6/22.2 (290mm) to no avail here in the states. They are all 
> black in color. However, I did find one in Toronto, Ontario, Canada at 
> Ubane Cyclist. They will not ship into the United States as their policy . 
> She told me to contact the distributor.
>
>
> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/soma-high-rider-xl-quill-28-6-22-2-290mm-4984#attr=2884
>
>  I recently sent an email of inquiry to Soma Fab as when one would be 
> available. In the meantime, I am putting out a search.
>
>  If anyone has one has a silver riser lying around in their parts drawer, 
> I would be very interested in buying it from you.
>
>  Thank-you.
>
>  Kim Hetzel.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/718493b3-2ac0-4ac6-87b8-9d1e8b4f0a5cn%40googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: Silver (mostly) parts FS ~ Paul mini-motos, Crust bars, Suntour XC Pro, Sram 11, more stuff

[Brent Knepper]

Update for parts still available, sold items at bottom. Sending buyers 
their tracking #s tonight!

Bars:
-Crust towel rack 645mm wide, earlier gen with the deeper drops $100
Brakes:
-2x (aka 1 bike’s worth, 2brakes2stop2wheels) Paul Minimotos NIB $275 pair 
$137.69 each
Brake levers:
-Fake TRP levers- got them in a Analogue Cycles sale $10
Cranks:
-Suntour XC Pro 175 microdrive 42/32/20 crankset $100
Derailleurs:
-Sram NX 11 speed rear derailleur, take off from a surly $20
-Suntour Mountech 28.6 triple bottom pull front derailleur $5
-Suntour XC Pro 28.6 triple bottom pull front derailleur, B-quality $20
Lil bits:
K-Edge Wahoo 31.8 mount $15

Free with other buy or you wanna pay for shipping:
-Teflon 2x brake/shifter cables, unused
-Worn out Ultradynamico Cava 33.3 grey tires, my fav tire in this size, got 
1400 miles before I put on a new set. I’ve bought bald tires before to 
check frame clearances so maybe someone else is similarly dorky 

pics still here:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/nYxeWZyQVxoAdutc8


Sold:
-Sugino AT 170 triple 46/36/26 rings, end caps, and tange 136mm bb (yep 
136, wide boi) $50
-Shimano STX FC-MC43 94bcd double not triple 170 crankset $20
-King Kargo Cage combo tool pouch water bottle cage $20
-Shimano Deore FT-MT60 175 46/36/24 crankset with UN55 127.5mm bb $20
-Suntour XC Pro 28.6 triple bottom pull front derailleur, A-quality

On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 7:41:55 PM UTC-6 Brent Knepper wrote:

> King kargo cage is sold - impressive amount of interest in it!
>
> I'll update with more pending/sold stuff tomorrow, but still responding to 
> people's emails for now
>
> Brent "bottle cage enthusiast" in chicago
>
> On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 6:11:43 PM UTC-6 Brent Knepper wrote:
>
>> Hi pals, bought winter tires for the car so time to go a-scroungin :)
>>
>>
>> Bars:
>>
>> -Crust towel rack 645mm wide, earlier gen with the deeper drops $100
>>
>> Brakes:
>>
>> -2x (aka 1 bike’s worth, 2brakes2stop2wheels) Paul Minimotos NIB $275 
>> pair $137.69 each
>>
>> Brake levers:
>>
>> -Fake TRP levers- got them in a Analogue Cycles sale $10
>>
>> Cranks:
>>
>> -Sugino AT 170 triple 46/36/26 rings, end caps, and tange 136mm bb (yep 
>> 136, wide boi)$50
>>
>> -Shimano STX FC-MC43 94bcd double not triple 170 crankset $20
>>
>> -Suntour XC Pro 175 microdrive 42/32/20 crankset $100
>>
>> -Shimano Deore FT-MT60 46/36/24 crankset with UN55 127.5mm bb $20
>>
>> Derailleurs:
>>
>> -Sram NX 11 speed rear derailleur, take off from a surly $20
>>
>> -Suntour Mountech 28.6 triple bottom pull front derailleur $5
>>
>> -Suntour XC Pro 28.6 triple bottom pull front derailleur, A-quality $40
>>
>> -Suntour XC Pro 28.6 triple bottom pull front derailleur, B-quality $20
>>
>> Lil bits:
>>
>> King Kargo Cage combo tool pouch water bottle cage $20
>>
>> K-Edge Wahoo 31.8 mount $20
>>
>> Free with other buy or you wanna pay for shipping:
>>
>> -Teflon 2x brake/shifter cables, unused
>>
>> -Worn out Ultradynamico Cava 33.3 grey tires, my fav tire in this size, 
>> got 1400 miles before I put on a new set. I’ve bought bald tires before to 
>> check frame clearances so maybe someone else is similarly dorky :)
>>
>> So many pics here:
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nYxeWZyQVxoAdutc8
>>
>>
>> Prices don't include shipping, paypal and venmo accepted
>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f10e4be6-a615-4446-b14b-34a218e6595cn%40googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: FS: Vintage Rivendell Cycling Cap

[Bill Schaefer]

Love that hat! Guess I'll have to keep a look out for other vintage riv 
hats that will fit my small head.

On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 8:24:03 PM UTC-5 josh.yo...@gmail.com wrote:

> SOLD
>
> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 5:06:31 PM UTC-8 captaincon...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Sell it on eBay.  A few years ago I sold a similar one there for way more 
>> than I initially bought it for.
>>
>> - Captain Conway, formerly of Bainbridge Island 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 6:11:19 PM UTC-6 josh.yo...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello-
>>>
>>> I bought this cap, cleaned it, and then figured out it was too small for 
>>> my melon head. I'm just looking to get my money back on it. Great looking 
>>> cap in great shape! It was made by Pace.
>>>
>>> *$25/shipped*
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Josh
>>> Bainbridge Island, WA
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_0347.JPG]
>>>
>>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a4c7d887-2a2c-4a22-9f1c-ded7df880a4bn%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

[Minh]

i"m down to a single big bike and only ride albatross but have been very 
tempted by the billie.   this discussion always reminds me of this t-shirt 
from blue lug. 

https://global.bluelug.com/blue-lug-nitto-handlebar-t-shirt-white.html

On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 9:44:18 AM UTC-5 Paul M wrote:

> I've been riding with the Choco-Moose handlebar for years and the "narrow 
> 55cm" width has been fine for on road and off. Even though in the back of 
> my mind, the general cycling community has been pushing wider handlebars. 
> This moose style handlebar has a fixed rise, reach, width and downward tilt 
> of the bars which is perfect for me. It does need a longish top tube to 
> work best.
>
> On Monday, 4 December 2023 at 17:48:44 UTC-8 Chris Halasz wrote:
>
>> Thanks to all for the great input on different bars and their 
>> applications. 
>>
>> When I first tried Albatross bars on my Bleriot, I could not get 
>> comfortable with them. Fifteen years later the Albatross bars are my 
>> favorite. I use them on a 58cm LHT. 
>>
>> I recently experienced shoulder pain when I tried (much) wider upright 
>> bars. I swam long distances for decades and am now careful with my worn 
>> shoulders. Somewhere I read that it's important to keep the arms 'in the 
>> box' (i.e. within the width of the box established by the shoulders) during 
>> exercise. It seems to work very well with this scrawny six-foot-tall 
>> person. I'm fairly upright on the LHT, with the bars about 2.5" above the 
>> B68 saddle. 
>>
>> I'm curious to try some of the narrower Toscos sometime. The way the bars 
>> can be tilted so that the grips tilt toward the downtube is intriguing. No 
>> rush, but someday. 
>>
>> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 1:02:28 PM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> If you were to overlay Toscos (the 650mm version) over top of some 
>>> Orthos like that, you would find them nearly the same in just about every 
>>> way... for anyone pining for some unobtainable Ortho bars.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 3:46 PM Richard Rose  wrote:
>>>
 I am late to this party & I may not be much help but… I’ve been running 
 Bosco bars on my two bikes - a Clem & a Gus. They are pretty much perfect. 
 Except that the Gus begs to be ridden harder on singletrack than I was 
 comfortable with. After much deliberation I took a flyer & installed a 
 “Albacore” handlebar from Hope Cyclery. It’s wide @ 785. It has a forward 
 sweep before coming back & a very comfortable & confidence inspiring 50-60 
 degrees. It necessitated ditching my 90mm stem for a 35mm one. These 
 changes transformed the Gus. The part of this that might apply to your 
 situation; wide bars feel great on the trails, experimentation can be fun 
 & 
 rewarding.
 [image: image0.jpeg]
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 4, 2023, at 1:35 PM, Chris K  wrote:

 J, question about your mothbars - do you find yourself ever using 
 other hand positions?

 Intrigued by this bar but it looks like holding on anywhere but the 
 ends would be awkward with such a wide bar.

 On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 4:20:31 PM UTC-6 J wrote:

> I've always had problems with swept back bars, tried many over the 
> years from Riv, Velo O, Soma and the Albatross bar lasted the longest (6 
> months?) on any bike but they were never really comfortable either. 
> Everything always felt too narrow for my shoulder width and gave me neck 
> pain. I had an opportunity to try the Tumbleweed Persuader bars on my 
> hardtail, and even though the back sweep threw the fit off it still got 
> my 
> gears turning about wider swoopy bars. I widened some Albatross bars in a 
> vice and really felt like I was getting somewhere but started having 
> saddle 
> comfort issues from riding upright again, an issue I've always had. Last 
> year I got to try Ron's Ortho bars on his Atlantis and they felt 
> ridiculous 
> in the moment, but a day later I was still thinking about them. They'd 
> been 
> sold out for so long I gave up and sourced some Magic Components 
> Mothbars, 
> and they've been great! They turned an old aluminum mtb I wasn't riding 
> into a bike I'd happily take for a casual ride under 30 miles. 
>
> [image: 2xzuKpol[1].jpg]
> [image: JMRTj5Ql[1].jpg]
> [image: 6ySLdfsl[1].jpg]
> [image: TPvZVebl[1].jpg]
>
> On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 3:01:00 PM UTC-4 exliontamer wrote:
>
>> The Albatross is my favorite upright bar. I'm a fairly tall guy with 
>> fairly big hands and it really only has 1 1/2 hand positions for me but 
>> I 
>> love the feel of it. It's stiff enough for trails, upright enough to 
>> commute on, etc. They live on my older Toyo Atlantis. I do think the 
>> newer 
>> revisions like the Billie work a lot better for newer Rivs with longer 
>> top 
>> 

[RBW] Re: Has anyone else tried the new Riv seat?

[Tom Wyland]

I have it on my Platy currently. It replaced a Selle Anatomica H2 (at least 
for the winter). The SA was a tad too narrow since I swapped to slighly 
more upright bars. I haven't yet decided if the Riv saddle is too wide (by 
1-2cm).  I don't really care for the wide nose of the Riv saddle, but I 
suppose I'll get used to it. I do like the flat shape and the amount of 
padding (minimal). It's good for a more upright ride due to the width.  I 
may use it on my wife's bike to swap out the Bontrager commuter saddle 
(wide).  When viewed from the side, the Bontrager commuter saddle has 
shoulders that slope down where the Riv saddle is a flat profile. We both 
prefer saddles that have a flat profile.  I've also ridden a VO wide 
touring saddle and the Riv saddle is wider both in the nose and the rear.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f313d1de-0445-4541-b793-8a92655cbeddn%40googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: Has anyone else tried the new Riv seat?

[Al]

I just purchased and it just doesnt work for me. I would echo Chris K in 
that I'm not sure where to sit on it. The nose of the saddle is a bit wide 
and I get pain below my left sit bone after longer rides. I think if it 
were just a tad narrower it would be work for me. Other than that it's a 
really nice saddle, well made and good materials.

-Al
Michigan

On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 8:52:41 PM UTC-5 Chris Halasz wrote:

> Chris
>
> Which Ergon did you use that has a narrower horn? 
>
> Curious if it's one of the wider Ergons for more upright riding. 
>
> On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 7:19:28 AM UTC-8 Chris K wrote:
>
>> Just put one on and I'm not sure I like it... yet. The material is comfy 
>> but I can't tell where I should be sitting on it, if that makes any sense. 
>> Coming from an Ergon saddle the nose of the Riv saddle is super wide. 
>> That's my least favorite part of the shape.
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 10:13:58 AM UTC-7 modemm...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Huh - I'm curious.  Did you ever have the black plastic one they 
>>> included with the 2016 Sam completes?  If so, how does it compare?
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 4:41:29 PM UTC-5 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>>
 Riv shipment just delivered, including the new seat, which I mounted 
 right away for a neighborhood spin.  I find it immediately comfortable and 
 am eager to try it on a longer ride; first impressions are very positive.  
 Have any of you ridden it yet?

 Now for that new derailer/derailleur!

 Tom
 Miami, FL, where it is currently 82ºF

>>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/45255aa7-f9ac-4ea2-8a6d-e33bbeb41267n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Re: Brakes Pads & Rims

[Patrick Moore]

At the risk of jerking this thread even further awat from the original
intent: has anyone ever gotten Mafac cantilevers to work well? If you did,
how did you do that? Those on my erstwhile Herse were among the worse
brakes I've ever used, and I tried, in front, the longer tandem version as
well as the single version -- absolutely no difference. Salmon pads.

Patrick Moore, enjoying perfectly *adequate* braking from his Paul cantis
(Touring rear, NR front) with brazed-on rear hanger and RH front hanger and
salmon pads on EQ 21 rims.

On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 9:07 AM Garth  wrote:

>
> At best I can say that "everything matters". The pad, the rim, the brake,
> the bike, the rider, the conditions, the intangibles ... all that equates
> to infinite variety of what's called "the experience". Heck, it varies from
> day to day for that matter. While I've used mostly Kool Stop pads over the
> last 25 years, I like the black compound as well as the red and salmon.
> Mavic Open Pro as well as the A719/T519 rims I have are spec'd as having a
> harder alloy(Maxtal) for strength. I'm sure it changes the braking
> somewhat, but just how I can't say, or if it matters. I have one Rhyno Lite
> rim(regular 6061) and if it brakes any worse than the Mavic it's not enough
> to be be relevant in practice on the road.
> On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 10:24:36 AM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>
>> We were kind of hijacking Bill's new canti-Roa bike post with discussion
>> about brakes, pad material, and rims so I decided to start a new one to
>> continue.  Bill has stated that in his experience over the years as a
>> mechanic he was required to address all kinds of issues from cyclists
>> concerning brakes, but nothing about rims.  He also said that the rim
>> material was just as important if no more so than brakes or pad material.
>> I'm inclined to take his word for it, given his work experience, but I'd
>> like to toss a personal episode into the ring:
>>
>> A number of years ago I bought a set of Tektro SP brakes for an existing
>> road bike.  This bike has wheels with Mavic Open Pro rims.  Given the fact
>> that those rims, though they are machined, do not have the most optimal
>> braking surface.  However, I really had to pull hard on the levers to get
>> those Tektro brakes to stop the bike.  So I decided to swap the pads for
>> those dubiously touted "salmon" colored pads and braking improved
>> dramatically.  The point being that there may be something to the pad
>> material after all.
>>
>> Thoughts? Experiences?
>>
>> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f5a5c187-a728-47e2-bdfb-c7a1c7b5c7d3n%40googlegroups.com
> 
> .
>


-- 
-
Patrick Moore
Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
-

Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing
services.

-

*When thou didst not, savage,*

*Know thine own meaning, but wouldst gabble like*

*A thing most brutish, I endowed thy purposes*

*With words that made them known.*

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgv6YnWPKyri2mqNnvC%3D9%3DgrJaBZSVR1MW9mKNHZeW%3D9sg%40mail.gmail.com.

Re: [RBW] Re: Brakes Pads & Rims

[Patrick Moore]

I'll add: for cantilevers, the front brake housing hanger. I recently
swapped out a very nice, sturdy Shimano steel hanger for a *tres chi chi* RH
hanger because I wanted a headset-mount and stiff hanger to get more drop
(3.5 cm vs 1 cm). The braking is modestly, but noticeably better with the
RH hanger.

Patrick Moore, who dimly recalls the forlorn hopelessness of aftermarket
leather brake shoes that were a cheap alternative to rubber on many 1960s
Indian roadsters -- after a few rides in the wet and some sun they turned
into ceramic and were about as uselessl for braking.


On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 8:55 AM Steve  wrote:

> Pads, brakes, brake levers, rim braking surface, and even the frame and
> fork that the brakes are mounted on -- they are an integrated system, they
> all work together to slow and/or stop the spinning wheels. Change any one
> part and, for better or worse,  you've altered the system.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgvqCEAXrv%3Dn%2BSKByBNEK8yChcdMp6x2VXtwh6aV8geJxw%40mail.gmail.com.

[RBW] WTB: Nitto Noodle bars, 54cm (or perhaps 52)

[Cal Patterson]

Hello there,

Does anyone have a set they'd be willing to part with?  I'm on these 48s 
and would like to broaden my horizons.

Thanks,
Calvin

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/4a57c030-cb92-4506-9bdc-321f448d40c6n%40googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: Brakes Pads & Rims

[Garth]

At best I can say that "everything matters". The pad, the rim, the brake, 
the bike, the rider, the conditions, the intangibles ... all that equates 
to infinite variety of what's called "the experience". Heck, it varies from 
day to day for that matter. While I've used mostly Kool Stop pads over the 
last 25 years, I like the black compound as well as the red and salmon. 
Mavic Open Pro as well as the A719/T519 rims I have are spec'd as having a 
harder alloy(Maxtal) for strength. I'm sure it changes the braking 
somewhat, but just how I can't say, or if it matters. I have one Rhyno Lite 
rim(regular 6061) and if it brakes any worse than the Mavic it's not enough 
to be be relevant in practice on the road. 
On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 10:24:36 AM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:

> We were kind of hijacking Bill's new canti-Roa bike post with discussion 
> about brakes, pad material, and rims so I decided to start a new one to 
> continue.  Bill has stated that in his experience over the years as a 
> mechanic he was required to address all kinds of issues from cyclists 
> concerning brakes, but nothing about rims.  He also said that the rim 
> material was just as important if no more so than brakes or pad material.  
> I'm inclined to take his word for it, given his work experience, but I'd 
> like to toss a personal episode into the ring:
>
> A number of years ago I bought a set of Tektro SP brakes for an existing 
> road bike.  This bike has wheels with Mavic Open Pro rims.  Given the fact 
> that those rims, though they are machined, do not have the most optimal 
> braking surface.  However, I really had to pull hard on the levers to get 
> those Tektro brakes to stop the bike.  So I decided to swap the pads for 
> those dubiously touted "salmon" colored pads and braking improved 
> dramatically.  The point being that there may be something to the pad 
> material after all.
>
> Thoughts? Experiences?
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f5a5c187-a728-47e2-bdfb-c7a1c7b5c7d3n%40googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: Brakes Pads & Rims

[Steve]

Pads, brakes, brake levers, rim braking surface, and even the frame and 
fork that the brakes are mounted on -- they are an integrated system, they 
all work together to slow and/or stop the spinning wheels. Change any one 
part and, for better or worse,  you've altered the system. 

On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 10:24:36 AM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:

> We were kind of hijacking Bill's new canti-Roa bike post with discussion 
> about brakes, pad material, and rims so I decided to start a new one to 
> continue.  Bill has stated that in his experience over the years as a 
> mechanic he was required to address all kinds of issues from cyclists 
> concerning brakes, but nothing about rims.  He also said that the rim 
> material was just as important if no more so than brakes or pad material.  
> I'm inclined to take his word for it, given his work experience, but I'd 
> like to toss a personal episode into the ring:
>
> A number of years ago I bought a set of Tektro SP brakes for an existing 
> road bike.  This bike has wheels with Mavic Open Pro rims.  Given the fact 
> that those rims, though they are machined, do not have the most optimal 
> braking surface.  However, I really had to pull hard on the levers to get 
> those Tektro brakes to stop the bike.  So I decided to swap the pads for 
> those dubiously touted "salmon" colored pads and braking improved 
> dramatically.  The point being that there may be something to the pad 
> material after all.
>
> Thoughts? Experiences?
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ae095561-fa84-497a-b26a-62167c37e393n%40googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Brakes Pads & Rims

[George Schick]

We were kind of hijacking Bill's new canti-Roa bike post with discussion 
about brakes, pad material, and rims so I decided to start a new one to 
continue.  Bill has stated that in his experience over the years as a 
mechanic he was required to address all kinds of issues from cyclists 
concerning brakes, but nothing about rims.  He also said that the rim 
material was just as important if no more so than brakes or pad material.  
I'm inclined to take his word for it, given his work experience, but I'd 
like to toss a personal episode into the ring:

A number of years ago I bought a set of Tektro SP brakes for an existing 
road bike.  This bike has wheels with Mavic Open Pro rims.  Given the fact 
that those rims, though they are machined, do not have the most optimal 
braking surface.  However, I really had to pull hard on the levers to get 
those Tektro brakes to stop the bike.  So I decided to swap the pads for 
those dubiously touted "salmon" colored pads and braking improved 
dramatically.  The point being that there may be something to the pad 
material after all.

Thoughts? Experiences?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e6fb618d-f91b-49ac-96dd-e58767a3ec71n%40googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: Studs for Winter Riding?

[Ted Durant]

On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 7:34:32 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:

Do any of you fine folks with more experience in such matters than me have 
any recommendations for studded tires for my Hunq?


As Andy said, winter conditions are like craft cocktails! And, as a result, 
what works in some conditions might be terrible in others. For me, those 
conditions regularly varied between my morning ride to work and my evening 
ride home. Others have covered the broad range, but I will add one point. I 
found that 2.1" Marathon tires were deadly in slush. They had just enough 
float that at any speed above walking pace the front would float up off the 
underlying pavement or ice/snow pack, and the traction then would match the 
mythical frictionless surface of physics.  With all the salt that is used 
on roads here, temps can be pretty well below freezing and we still have 
mostly slush, so I found that skinnier tires worked much better. 
Unfortunately, that means that when dealing with frozen ruts, there's a lot 
more bone shaking going on. Nokian W106 (700x35) on my Quickbeam were the 
best combo I ever used for commuting in Milwaukee.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/32778984-ef55-438d-8e97-3c4317996130n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] WTT for Nitto seat posts (lugged 26.8, 2-bolt 27.2)

[Ryan]

The lugged post is 2 bolt...unless you are looking for the S83

On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 8:53:23 PM UTC-6 Eric Grim wrote:

> I didn't know that, too bad.  In that case, I'd still like to trade for a 
> two-bolt Nitto seatpost with 27.2mm diameter.
>
> Eric Grim (Spokane)
>
> owner of a Riv Appaloosa and a Soma San Marcos
>
> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 1:35:51 PM UTC-8 Jay Lonner wrote:
>
>> I think the Nitto S84 lugged seatpost has only ever been manufactured in 
>> 27.2mm. It’s one of the reasons that many of us are frustrated that so many 
>> Riv models require a 26.8mm seatpost. If you’re looking for more setback 
>> IRD is probably the way to go. 
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2023, at 1:09 PM, Eric Grim  wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>> WTT for seatposts: I want a Nitto lugged seatpost in 26.8mm, and a Nitto 
>> two-bolt seatpost in 27.2.
>>
>> I have these parts available:
>>
>> Nitto lugged seatpost, 27.2mm, with light marks (I polished the inside of 
>> the seat tube before installing it)
>>
>> Nitto two-bolt "frog" seatpost in 26.8mm (light marks)
>>
>> Nitto single-bolt U15-10N seatpost also in 26.8 (light marks)
>>
>> Nitto XP steel stem, brand new, never inserted
>>
>> Nitto XT Dirt Drop stem for 26.0 bars (light marks)
>>
>> Nitto RM016N "mustache" style handlebars
>>
>> If you happen to be a vintage drop bar enthusiast, I have a Cinelli bar & 
>> stem set, and an old aluminum Raleigh bar & stem set. Neither of these is 
>> in as good shape as the Nitto parts, but they're straight., and I cleaned 
>> the sticky residue off.
>>
>>
>> Eric Grim
>>
>> Spokane
>>
>> owner of a Riv Appaloosa and a Soma San Marcos
>>
>> Pics shall be taken upon request.
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7e3ecd11-1c85-4e3e-a0be-bf4ca4f91daan%40googlegroups.com
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/29821c1d-ffd1-4bc4-a7ee-3b400d809bcfn%40googlegroups.com.