[RBW] Re: New bike day: 60cm Sergio Green Platypus complete

[BrettG]

Yes, although I'm in range for a 55cm it would have required a longer stem 
and huge amount of seat post showing for the same setup.  I always go as a 
big as possible with Riv frames.

I forgot to mention 2 things:
- The novatech rear hub with the stock wheelset is one of quietest hubs 
I've ever used.  Even a bit quieter than shimano.  I don't care for noisy 
hubs so was quite pleased.  Hopefully they stay silent.
- The sergio green color is even better in person than in photos.  Has a 
certain "shimmer" in the sunlight I didn't expect.  

I'm impressed with the parts they chose for the completes.  I would have 
picked the exact same stem/bar/crank/tires if I was building myself.   The 
rest of the sunrace and tektro components are an excellent value.

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[RBW] Re: New bike day: 60cm Sergio Green Platypus complete

[DTL]

Seems like a perfect fit - to think a 55cm frame would result in 50mm more 
seatpost (and the stack would be a few cm's lower)
This looks great, not to mention proportional and comfortable
Congrats!

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[RBW] Re: Opinions sought - Platypus needs wheels

[Ed Carolipio]

Like Tim, I suggest spending the extra money on double butted spokes since 
you're having a custom set built. Otherwise, I like your baseline 
selections. 
On the hubs, I personally would opt for the DT Swiss 350s. IMO it's a nicer 
hub, easy to work on, tremendous flexibility, and gives you the option to 
upgrade to the higher tooth freehub ratchet.

--Ed C.
Redondo Beach, CA
On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 6:12:42 PM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

>  When I built up my Platypus this past summer I borrowed the wheels off 
> of another bike - now I'm ready to give the Platy her very own 650b 
> wheels.
>
> The build is road oriented, intended mostly for day rides and maybe some 
> light touring. Currently running 38mm slicks but plan to replace them with 
> something in the 42 - 44mm range. The bike weighs a bit under 30 lbs and 
> I'm about 165 lbs. 
>
> I have a wheel set cued up with Pro Wheel Builders; Velocity Quill 32 hole 
> rims, straight gauge spokes,   and DT Swiss 350 hubs (the 2021 version). 
> I'm also considering letting Velocity build them for me using their Racer 
> hubs instead of the 350s. Before I pull the trigger though I'd love to hear 
> what thoughts or opinions others might have.  Thanks, Steve
>

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[RBW] Re: Opinions sought - Platypus needs wheels

[Nick Shoemaker]

I’d opt for double butted spokes rather than straight gauge if you’re going 
to the trouble of having them built up. Stronger & lighter for just a 
couple bucks more. 
On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 9:12:42 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

>  When I built up my Platypus this past summer I borrowed the wheels off 
> of another bike - now I'm ready to give the Platy her very own 650b 
> wheels.
>
> The build is road oriented, intended mostly for day rides and maybe some 
> light touring. Currently running 38mm slicks but plan to replace them with 
> something in the 42 - 44mm range. The bike weighs a bit under 30 lbs and 
> I'm about 165 lbs. 
>
> I have a wheel set cued up with Pro Wheel Builders; Velocity Quill 32 hole 
> rims, straight gauge spokes,   and DT Swiss 350 hubs (the 2021 version). 
> I'm also considering letting Velocity build them for me using their Racer 
> hubs instead of the 350s. Before I pull the trigger though I'd love to hear 
> what thoughts or opinions others might have.  Thanks, Steve
>

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[RBW] Re: New bike day: 60cm Sergio Green Platypus complete

[Steve]

Brett, Congrats on the new Platypus. I built one up this past summer (50cm 
with 650b wheels) and have been loving it. I have to concur with your first 
impression - not particularly fast, but supremely comfortable. And I'll add 
"capable and sure footed' to the descriptors. It has acquitted itself well 
on everything from big climbs and descents on the Blue Ridge Parkway to 
light gravel and single track, all on 38mm slicks. It's a definite keeper!
On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 8:48:09 PM UTC-5 BrettG wrote:

> Some additional info some may find useful (I couldn't put in original 
> message because too long)
>
> - Roman confirmed this morning it does not come with a saddle so I think 
> website description wrong (there was a discussion about this somewhere).
> - Cranks are 173s (for 60cm anyway).
> - Tires are 48mm and awesome!  Perfect for this bike.
> - Gearing was also perfect- 42/30 with 11-34.  I used the full range on 
> the ride and didn't need anything higher or lower.
> - "Lower end" Sunrace drivetrain worked really well.  Not sure about 
> longer term durability but I was impressed.
> - The cheaper V-brakes/levers always worked really well.  Felt great.
> - Even though wheelset is  "machine built" they seemed to fine to me.  
> Perfectly true and even tension.  Will just have to monitor longer term.
>
> Brett.
>

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[RBW] Re: Opinions sought - Platypus needs wheels

[Tim Bantham]

I own Velocity Quills and currently have them on my Sam. These are great 
rims and will be perfect for your intended purpose. I would spend a little 
more for the DT Swiss hubs and consider building the wheel with Double 
Butted spokes versus straight gauge. I won't claim to be an expert on the 
differences in spokes but for my wheel builds I've used double butted and 
have been told they are easier to get the correct amount of tension. For my 
inbound Platypus I'm going to use Atlas rims that have been hanging in my 
basement. I've always wanted to put them back in action and this is my 
chance. I picked up a Deore rear hub NOS for $35 and my front hub will be a 
Schmidt Widebody Dyno hub. I'm going to use Sapim Race for my spokes. 

On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 9:12:42 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

>  When I built up my Platypus this past summer I borrowed the wheels off 
> of another bike - now I'm ready to give the Platy her very own 650b 
> wheels.
>
> The build is road oriented, intended mostly for day rides and maybe some 
> light touring. Currently running 38mm slicks but plan to replace them with 
> something in the 42 - 44mm range. The bike weighs a bit under 30 lbs and 
> I'm about 165 lbs. 
>
> I have a wheel set cued up with Pro Wheel Builders; Velocity Quill 32 hole 
> rims, straight gauge spokes,   and DT Swiss 350 hubs (the 2021 version). 
> I'm also considering letting Velocity build them for me using their Racer 
> hubs instead of the 350s. Before I pull the trigger though I'd love to hear 
> what thoughts or opinions others might have.  Thanks, Steve
>

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[RBW] WTB: Susie L or XL Frame

[Ben Hannon]

Hello!

I know that they're coming out with a lugged Susie next year, but wanted to 
see if anyone was hanging onto an older frame they were looking to part 
with?

Thanks,
Ben

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[RBW] Re: New bike day: 60cm Sergio Green Platypus complete

[Tim Bantham]

Looks amazing! Thanks for sharing the ride report. I look forward to the 
arrival of my Sergio green Platy even more now! 

On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 8:48:09 PM UTC-5 BrettG wrote:

> Some additional info some may find useful (I couldn't put in original 
> message because too long)
>
> - Roman confirmed this morning it does not come with a saddle so I think 
> website description wrong (there was a discussion about this somewhere).
> - Cranks are 173s (for 60cm anyway).
> - Tires are 48mm and awesome!  Perfect for this bike.
> - Gearing was also perfect- 42/30 with 11-34.  I used the full range on 
> the ride and didn't need anything higher or lower.
> - "Lower end" Sunrace drivetrain worked really well.  Not sure about 
> longer term durability but I was impressed.
> - The cheaper V-brakes/levers always worked really well.  Felt great.
> - Even though wheelset is  "machine built" they seemed to fine to me.  
> Perfectly true and even tension.  Will just have to monitor longer term.
>
> Brett.
>

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[RBW] Opinions sought - Platypus needs wheels

[Steve]

 When I built up my Platypus this past summer I borrowed the wheels off of 
another bike - now I'm ready to give the Platy her very own 650b wheels.

The build is road oriented, intended mostly for day rides and maybe some 
light touring. Currently running 38mm slicks but plan to replace them with 
something in the 42 - 44mm range. The bike weighs a bit under 30 lbs and 
I'm about 165 lbs. 

I have a wheel set cued up with Pro Wheel Builders; Velocity Quill 32 hole 
rims, straight gauge spokes,   and DT Swiss 350 hubs (the 2021 version). 
I'm also considering letting Velocity build them for me using their Racer 
hubs instead of the 350s. Before I pull the trigger though I'd love to hear 
what thoughts or opinions others might have.  Thanks, Steve

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[RBW] Re: New bike day: 60cm Sergio Green Platypus complete

[BrettG]

Some additional info some may find useful (I couldn't put in original 
message because too long)

- Roman confirmed this morning it does not come with a saddle so I think 
website description wrong (there was a discussion about this somewhere).
- Cranks are 173s (for 60cm anyway).
- Tires are 48mm and awesome!  Perfect for this bike.
- Gearing was also perfect- 42/30 with 11-34.  I used the full range on the 
ride and didn't need anything higher or lower.
- "Lower end" Sunrace drivetrain worked really well.  Not sure about longer 
term durability but I was impressed.
- The cheaper V-brakes/levers always worked really well.  Felt great.
- Even though wheelset is  "machine built" they seemed to fine to me.  
Perfectly true and even tension.  Will just have to monitor longer term.

Brett.

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[RBW] Re: New bike day: 60cm Sergio Green Platypus complete

[BrettG]

...wouldn't allow me to post all the info (too longer) so here some 
additional info some may find useful:

- Roman told me this morning it does not come with a saddle so I think the 
website might be wrong.  Was fine though as I knew I'd go B67.
- Cranks are 173s (was important for me).
- Tires are 48mm (and awesome!).  Never tried tires that big but loved them.
- The "lower end" sunrace drivetrain works really well.  Not sure about 
long term durability but I was impressed.
- Wheelset is "machine built" but I put it in the truing stand and it seems 
fine.  Will monitor these...
- Gearing - 42/30 and 11-34 was perfect.  I used the full range and didn't 
need anything higher or lower.  I may go to a 1x11 setup at some point but 
not for a while.

Brett.
On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 5:27:03 PM UTC-8 BrettG wrote:

> Picked up RBW HQ this morning, put on pedals, grips, saddle, etc. and rode 
> it back to SF (no BART or ferry...took the long way via Richmond and GG 
> bridges - so all day shake-down ride!).
>
> Here are my initial thoughts after the first 6 hour ride and some 
> additional info some may find useful, plus a photo I took along the ride 
> (somewhere around Martinez).
>
> - I have a 86 PBH which puts me in-between 55 and 60 but I absolutely 
> agree about sizing up to a 60cm.  It feels like the perfect size and I like 
> less seat post showing.  I don't see any need at this point for a stem swap.
> - It is very "roomy" and has a completely different feel that riding my 
> 2017 Sam or 2003 Romulus.  As expected it does feel slower than my other 
> bikes but is so comfortable I feel like I could ride all day and had no 
> problems on the long initial ride home.
>
> This is my 4th Rivendell over a span of 20 years and my first "complete"  
> as I normally build-up frames.   I don't buy new bikes often but this one I 
> couldn't resist.  Thanks to everyone's info in the forums which help tip me 
> towards buying.
>
> - Brett in SF
>
> [image: platypusgreen.png]
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New bike day: 60cm Sergio Green Platypus complete

[Ryan]

Nice...glad it worked out so well for you!

On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 7:27:03 PM UTC-6 BrettG wrote:

> Picked up RBW HQ this morning, put on pedals, grips, saddle, etc. and rode 
> it back to SF (no BART or ferry...took the long way via Richmond and GG 
> bridges - so all day shake-down ride!).
>
> Here are my initial thoughts after the first 6 hour ride and some 
> additional info some may find useful, plus a photo I took along the ride 
> (somewhere around Martinez).
>
> - I have a 86 PBH which puts me in-between 55 and 60 but I absolutely 
> agree about sizing up to a 60cm.  It feels like the perfect size and I like 
> less seat post showing.  I don't see any need at this point for a stem swap.
> - It is very "roomy" and has a completely different feel that riding my 
> 2017 Sam or 2003 Romulus.  As expected it does feel slower than my other 
> bikes but is so comfortable I feel like I could ride all day and had no 
> problems on the long initial ride home.
>
> This is my 4th Rivendell over a span of 20 years and my first "complete"  
> as I normally build-up frames.   I don't buy new bikes often but this one I 
> couldn't resist.  Thanks to everyone's info in the forums which help tip me 
> towards buying.
>
> - Brett in SF
>
> [image: platypusgreen.png]
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Clean, don't toss, your dull German mirror

[Roberta]

Over the years, these dull.  I always thought they pitted and the lack of 
clarity was too much for me.  I'd toss them and buy more.  At $30 a pop, it 
was a bit much, but I like the low profile of the mirror.

I went to Riv's web site to get another, saw this, tried the baking soda 
with water suggestion and now the mirror reflects as good as new!

>From Riv's site:  " After a couple years the mirror might dull a bit, but 
can be brought back to life by scrubbing it with baking soda and water, or 
toothpaste."

Roberta

PS If anyone knows the size of this housing screw or has an extra one, I'd 
like to know the size or buy the screw. 


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[RBW] WTB/Info Needed. German Mirror Screw

[Roberta]

I lost the screw that keeps the German mirror housing snugged, so the 
mirror doesn't flop around.  Does anyone know what size screw I need or 
have one I can buy?

Thanks,
Roberta

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Re: [RBW] Re: 1st world commuting dilemma

[Ryan]

My X0-1 and Peugeot PX10 did just that.when I was
still working...and with less than ideal security it was a no-brainer 
On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 1:50:08 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I meant to stress that with a bit of looking one might very well find a 
> beater that gives 9/10 (metaphor, not measurement) of what your "nice" bike 
> gives in terms of ride, fit, feel, pleasure. 
>
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:07 AM Josh C  wrote:
>
>> ...  Patrick - I started commuting on an old surly LHT that was worn 
>> enough that most of the decals had been scuffed off. It did the job, and I 
>> still have it, but I don’t really love that bike. It’s about as “beater” as 
>> I’d go personally. I want to enjoy running errands and commuting on bike, 
>> that’s the whole point for me. I believe that I’m on a 2” tire currently. 
>> The Atlantis has 700x50 gravel kings on it which I’d probably leave be. I 
>> too would like to see folk’s beaters and commuters. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day X2

[Paul Richardson]

tim you've done the right thing.  i wanna see that roady homer with 
downtube shifters!!

paul
takoma park, md.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: like new triple crankset

[Tom Horton]

175 is the crank lengthSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 11, 2023, at 1:59 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:Arm length? I'm not in the market but I know someone who might be interested in these. On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 10:36:04 AM UTC-8 Tom Horton wrote:velo orange triple, 48-34-24   bought new a few years ago, mounted on a bike and never rode it.  with 127 mm bottom bracket. square taper.    $110  plus shipping.



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Re: [RBW] Re: 1st world commuting dilemma

[Patrick Moore]

I meant to stress that with a bit of looking one might very well find a
beater that gives 9/10 (metaphor, not measurement) of what your "nice" bike
gives in terms of ride, fit, feel, pleasure.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:07 AM Josh C  wrote:

> ...  Patrick - I started commuting on an old surly LHT that was worn
> enough that most of the decals had been scuffed off. It did the job, and I
> still have it, but I don’t really love that bike. It’s about as “beater” as
> I’d go personally. I want to enjoy running errands and commuting on bike,
> that’s the whole point for me. I believe that I’m on a 2” tire currently.
> The Atlantis has 700x50 gravel kings on it which I’d probably leave be. I
> too would like to see folk’s beaters and commuters.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 1st world commuting dilemma

[Patrick Moore]

Actually, there is one more "beater" that I might like to have back: my
first Rivendell custom road bike, a 1995 Waterford-built 26" wheel bike
that I later converted to a fixed gear drivetrain (ENO hub, Dremel, file,
paint). Customs 2 and 3 were so much better in design -- slightly shallower
head, longer chainstays, sloping tts and extended head tubes --  that I
felt little regret in chopping up #1; OTOH, it did make a very nice beater
fixed gear commuter.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 10:30 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> ... I'll start: There are 2 beaters that I owned long ago that I almost
> wish I'd kept: the first-gen Raleigh Technium which didn't feel so much
> spritely as cushy with noodle frame (tho' heavy) and -- for the era, early
> '00s -- fat soft 32 cm tires. Then the Motobecane that I think Eric Norris
> still has. Both built a fixed gear commuters with scavenged but decent
> parts -- I think now I'd invest in better tires; even a stolen RH tire is
> "only" $100; but Tourney centerpulls and Normandy hubs work as well when
> you are not looking at them as Dura Ace, for commuting at least. I did some
> of my cross-town commuting PBs on the Motobecane.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: like new triple crankset

[Joe Bernard]

Arm length? I'm not in the market but I know someone who might be 
interested in these. 

On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 10:36:04 AM UTC-8 Tom Horton wrote:

> velo orange triple, 48-34-24   bought new a few years ago, mounted on a 
> bike and never rode it.  with 127 mm bottom bracket. square taper.$110  
> plus shipping.
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 1st world commuting dilemma

[Josh C]

Somewhat related, I drove my car to work 1 day in November because it was 
wet and I didn’t wanna be wet, and someone hit my car in the parking lot. I 
mean hit it hard. Naturally, they just drove off. 


It’ll need a new front passenger side fender and the bumper repainted. 
Figures. I'm guessing it's about a new Riv worth of damage. Just dropped it 
at the shop today. 

On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 1:07:11 PM UTC-5 Josh C wrote:

> George - That does look unlikely to be stolen but not sure I can get aero 
> enough on the can…
>
>
> Jason - I like the idea of saving more money and getting more out of what 
> I have. I’m glad that I didn’t buy a new Clem just to keep my other bikes 
> in the garage. 
>
>
> Roberta - I’m not sure that I’m “willing” to lose any bike, to be honest, 
> but the Atlantis is replaceable. Like that you’re using the Platy as your 
> daily. I too carry the NY kryptonite lock, but only use one. One through 
> the rear wheel/frame with a cable through the front wheel. I’m thinking 
> that I could also just leave a second at work, locked to the rack, and use 
> it as a second U without having to schlep it back and forth. I should look 
> into the pitlocks or the like. I know they exist but have never really 
> considered them for some reason. 
>
>
> Timothy - What’s your dream bike? We wanna see…
>
> As for your locking method, same. I think it’s kind of the only good way 
> to do it. Lock through the fame/back wheel, then cable through the front 
> wheel. I guess a second U-lock for the front wheel/frame is always safer 
> but starts to get heavy. I’m heavy enough without 2 U-locks strapped to me. 
>
>
> Patrick - I started commuting on an old surly LHT that was worn enough 
> that most of the decals had been scuffed off. It did the job, and I still 
> have it, but I don’t really love that bike. It’s about as “beater” as I’d 
> go personally. I want to enjoy running errands and commuting on bike, 
> that’s the whole point for me. I believe that I’m on a 2” tire currently. 
> The Atlantis has 700x50 gravel kings on it which I’d probably leave be. I 
> too would like to see folk’s beaters and commuters. 
>
>
> On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Despite my advice above about "ride whatcha got and lock it well", I do 
>> actually have a lock-up bike, though it happened organically.  I've had 
>> this old Twenty since about 2008, and it was upgraded over time. Drum 
>> brakes, "GT365" Marathons for all-weather, 5 speed, dynamo. It's a solid 
>> little bike (and weight to match) and I'm very comfortable locking it up as 
>> it still looks very unassuming 
>>
>> On Monday 11 December 2023 at 09:33:26 UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I'd been using 559 X 22s or 571 X 22s on my Riv customs, even for 
>>> commuting; now 26 X 1" Specialized Turbos were surprisingly comfortable at 
>>> 80/90 -- very nice tires; *fast!* -- but by comparison 32s (Vittorias) 
>>> were like beach tires.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 10:30 AM Patrick Moore  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 ...  fat soft 32 cm tires.

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 1st world commuting dilemma

[Josh C]

George - That does look unlikely to be stolen but not sure I can get aero 
enough on the can…


Jason - I like the idea of saving more money and getting more out of what I 
have. I’m glad that I didn’t buy a new Clem just to keep my other bikes in 
the garage. 


Roberta - I’m not sure that I’m “willing” to lose any bike, to be honest, 
but the Atlantis is replaceable. Like that you’re using the Platy as your 
daily. I too carry the NY kryptonite lock, but only use one. One through 
the rear wheel/frame with a cable through the front wheel. I’m thinking 
that I could also just leave a second at work, locked to the rack, and use 
it as a second U without having to schlep it back and forth. I should look 
into the pitlocks or the like. I know they exist but have never really 
considered them for some reason. 


Timothy - What’s your dream bike? We wanna see…

As for your locking method, same. I think it’s kind of the only good way to 
do it. Lock through the fame/back wheel, then cable through the front 
wheel. I guess a second U-lock for the front wheel/frame is always safer 
but starts to get heavy. I’m heavy enough without 2 U-locks strapped to me. 


Patrick - I started commuting on an old surly LHT that was worn enough that 
most of the decals had been scuffed off. It did the job, and I still have 
it, but I don’t really love that bike. It’s about as “beater” as I’d go 
personally. I want to enjoy running errands and commuting on bike, that’s 
the whole point for me. I believe that I’m on a 2” tire currently. The 
Atlantis has 700x50 gravel kings on it which I’d probably leave be. I too 
would like to see folk’s beaters and commuters. 


On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Despite my advice above about "ride whatcha got and lock it well", I do 
> actually have a lock-up bike, though it happened organically.  I've had 
> this old Twenty since about 2008, and it was upgraded over time. Drum 
> brakes, "GT365" Marathons for all-weather, 5 speed, dynamo. It's a solid 
> little bike (and weight to match) and I'm very comfortable locking it up as 
> it still looks very unassuming 
>
> On Monday 11 December 2023 at 09:33:26 UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I'd been using 559 X 22s or 571 X 22s on my Riv customs, even for 
>> commuting; now 26 X 1" Specialized Turbos were surprisingly comfortable at 
>> 80/90 -- very nice tires; *fast!* -- but by comparison 32s (Vittorias) 
>> were like beach tires.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 10:30 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> ...  fat soft 32 cm tires.
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 1st world commuting dilemma

[Patrick Moore]

I'd been using 559 X 22s or 571 X 22s on my Riv customs, even for
commuting; now 26 X 1" Specialized Turbos were surprisingly comfortable at
80/90 -- very nice tires; *fast!* -- but by comparison 32s (Vittorias) were
like beach tires.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 10:30 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> ...  fat soft 32 cm tires.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 1st world commuting dilemma

[Patrick Moore]

It's interesting to read of others' solutions. I confess that mine had I to
leave my bike locked all day in sketchy areas would be to use a beater, but
a *nice* beater, and this could turn into a "nice beater" thread!

I'll start: There are 2 beaters that I owned long ago that I almost wish
I'd kept: the first-gen Raleigh Technium which didn't feel so much spritely
as cushy with noodle frame (tho' heavy) and -- for the era, early '00s --
fat soft 32 cm tires. Then the Motobecane that I think Eric Norris still
has. Both built a fixed gear commuters with scavenged but decent parts -- I
think now I'd invest in better tires; even a stolen RH tire is "only" $100;
but Tourney centerpulls and Normandy hubs work as well when you are not
looking at them as Dura Ace, for commuting at least. I did some of my
cross-town commuting PBs on the Motobecane.

Actually, various top-model early '90s mtbs converted to drops would also
make excellent commuters with fat tires for dirt routes.



On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 7:36 AM Tim Donner  wrote:

> After building up a dream bike, the bike shop reminded me- "It's a tool,
> not a jewel".



> “don't ride anything that you're not WILLING to lose.”— iamkeith
>
>>
>> I live in city (Philadelphia) with bike theft issue. I’ve decided on a
>> commute/lockup bike that I can replace while loving the ride.
>> On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 10:07:25 AM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:
>>
>

> I've been leaving my Cheviot locked up with a single Kryptonite mini
>>> U-lock around the frame in NYC for the past few month since I started
>>> working there again
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day X2

[Tim Bantham]

Roberta - Nice to hear from you! I didn't know that you had the same combo. 
We are kindred spirits!  

Chef- The Homer looks great! I'm excited about the Platy but the Homer has 
been on my radar for a long time. Looking forward to building this one. 
Mine will be the classic Home Blue color which I am just in love with. 

Sarah-The idea of a mixte as a "girls frame" is only a construct. I think 
it will be practical when I take it camping and no longer have to swing my 
leg over whatever huge bag I have on the back of the bike.  

Steve - I can't take credit for the "MOM" acronym. I got it from the Riv 
print catalog from a few years ago. I think it may have been Will who 
coined that phrase. It is a good one though! 



On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 10:01:32 AM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> Tim, as a fellow XY chromosome'd mixte rider ('22 Platypus with Billie 
> Bars) I had to chuckle at your "proud Man on a Mixte" appellation.  Perhaps 
> some day we'll have to establish a MOAM subgroup on this site. 
>
> You may have run across this "Me and My Mixte" blog post from 2011, if 
> not, here it is: 
> http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2011/02/me-and-mixte.html
>
> Steve
>
> On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 9:13:52 AM UTC-5 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Tim, that is exciting news! And please post pictures because we need more 
>> men on mixtes! Every time I find one I show my fiance and say, "see, this 
>> is a great men's bike!" And he looks at me side eyed. Which makes me want a 
>> "Men on Mixtes Calendar" Maybe it's a project for next year. 
>>
>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 8:04:01 AM UTC-8 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Riv Bunch, 
>>>
>>> My first Riv was a 2TT Sam Hilborne that I purchased in 2017. I had an 
>>> Appaloosa that I sold just over a year ago. I've regretted selling my Joe 
>>> ever since. I even saw my old 2TT silver Appaloosa at this years Nutmeg 
>>> Nor'Easter. I thought about offering to buy it back but I never did ask the 
>>> new owner. I doubt he would have sold it back to me anyway. The only 
>>> consolation is that the new owner told me that he loves the bike and rides 
>>> it nearly every day. 
>>>
>>> While at the NNE I saw so many cool Riv's. I was talking to fellow Riv 
>>> Bunch member Justin Kennedy about his Platypus. My UBU (unresonable bike 
>>> urge) has been in high gear ever since. 
>>>
>>> I will soon become a proud Man on a Mixte and my 60cm Sergio Green 
>>> complete will be on the way to me very soon. I'm going to change the bars 
>>> right away to Billie's and will build a nicer wheelset with a Dyno hub 
>>> before getting it on the road. I figured if Leah can own 3 Platypus's its 
>>> got to be a good bike! I'm exciting for it's arrival and can't wait to ride 
>>> it. 
>>>
>>> The second inbound Riv is a A. Homer Hilsen frameset. I'm going to build 
>>> the Homer up as a drop bar road bike keeping it rackless and light as 
>>> possible. I am thinking about building it as a retro mod with downtube 
>>> shifter and some older parts. I still need to decide on that. Anyway I 
>>> thought I'd share the exciting news with fellow bike nerds. The Sam, Platy 
>>> and AHH will give me a nice collection.  I am feeling very fortunate to be 
>>> able to add two new bikes to my collection. N+2!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day X2

[Steve]

Tim, as a fellow XY chromosome'd mixte rider ('22 Platypus with Billie 
Bars) I had to chuckle at your "proud Man on a Mixte" appellation.  Perhaps 
some day we'll have to establish a MOAM subgroup on this site. 

You may have run across this "Me and My Mixte" blog post from 2011, if not, 
here it is: 
http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2011/02/me-and-mixte.html

Steve

On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 9:13:52 AM UTC-5 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Tim, that is exciting news! And please post pictures because we need more 
> men on mixtes! Every time I find one I show my fiance and say, "see, this 
> is a great men's bike!" And he looks at me side eyed. Which makes me want a 
> "Men on Mixtes Calendar" Maybe it's a project for next year. 
>
> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 8:04:01 AM UTC-8 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> Hello Riv Bunch, 
>>
>> My first Riv was a 2TT Sam Hilborne that I purchased in 2017. I had an 
>> Appaloosa that I sold just over a year ago. I've regretted selling my Joe 
>> ever since. I even saw my old 2TT silver Appaloosa at this years Nutmeg 
>> Nor'Easter. I thought about offering to buy it back but I never did ask the 
>> new owner. I doubt he would have sold it back to me anyway. The only 
>> consolation is that the new owner told me that he loves the bike and rides 
>> it nearly every day. 
>>
>> While at the NNE I saw so many cool Riv's. I was talking to fellow Riv 
>> Bunch member Justin Kennedy about his Platypus. My UBU (unresonable bike 
>> urge) has been in high gear ever since. 
>>
>> I will soon become a proud Man on a Mixte and my 60cm Sergio Green 
>> complete will be on the way to me very soon. I'm going to change the bars 
>> right away to Billie's and will build a nicer wheelset with a Dyno hub 
>> before getting it on the road. I figured if Leah can own 3 Platypus's its 
>> got to be a good bike! I'm exciting for it's arrival and can't wait to ride 
>> it. 
>>
>> The second inbound Riv is a A. Homer Hilsen frameset. I'm going to build 
>> the Homer up as a drop bar road bike keeping it rackless and light as 
>> possible. I am thinking about building it as a retro mod with downtube 
>> shifter and some older parts. I still need to decide on that. Anyway I 
>> thought I'd share the exciting news with fellow bike nerds. The Sam, Platy 
>> and AHH will give me a nice collection.  I am feeling very fortunate to be 
>> able to add two new bikes to my collection. N+2!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day X2

[Steve]

Tim, as a fellow XY chromosome'd mixte rider ('22 Platypus with Billie 
Bars) I had to chuckle at your "proud Man on a Mixte" appellation.  Perhaps 
some day we'll have to establish a MOAM subgroup on this site. 

You may have run across this blog post from 2011, if not, here it is: 
http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2011/02/me-and-mixte.html

Steve
On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 9:13:52 AM UTC-5 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Tim, that is exciting news! And please post pictures because we need more 
> men on mixtes! Every time I find one I show my fiance and say, "see, this 
> is a great men's bike!" And he looks at me side eyed. Which makes me want a 
> "Men on Mixtes Calendar" Maybe it's a project for next year. 
>
> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 8:04:01 AM UTC-8 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> Hello Riv Bunch, 
>>
>> My first Riv was a 2TT Sam Hilborne that I purchased in 2017. I had an 
>> Appaloosa that I sold just over a year ago. I've regretted selling my Joe 
>> ever since. I even saw my old 2TT silver Appaloosa at this years Nutmeg 
>> Nor'Easter. I thought about offering to buy it back but I never did ask the 
>> new owner. I doubt he would have sold it back to me anyway. The only 
>> consolation is that the new owner told me that he loves the bike and rides 
>> it nearly every day. 
>>
>> While at the NNE I saw so many cool Riv's. I was talking to fellow Riv 
>> Bunch member Justin Kennedy about his Platypus. My UBU (unresonable bike 
>> urge) has been in high gear ever since. 
>>
>> I will soon become a proud Man on a Mixte and my 60cm Sergio Green 
>> complete will be on the way to me very soon. I'm going to change the bars 
>> right away to Billie's and will build a nicer wheelset with a Dyno hub 
>> before getting it on the road. I figured if Leah can own 3 Platypus's its 
>> got to be a good bike! I'm exciting for it's arrival and can't wait to ride 
>> it. 
>>
>> The second inbound Riv is a A. Homer Hilsen frameset. I'm going to build 
>> the Homer up as a drop bar road bike keeping it rackless and light as 
>> possible. I am thinking about building it as a retro mod with downtube 
>> shifter and some older parts. I still need to decide on that. Anyway I 
>> thought I'd share the exciting news with fellow bike nerds. The Sam, Platy 
>> and AHH will give me a nice collection.  I am feeling very fortunate to be 
>> able to add two new bikes to my collection. N+2!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 1st world commuting dilemma

[Tim Donner]

After building up a dream bike, the bike shop reminded me- "It's a tool, 
not a jewel". It was a good reminder to enjoy the things you have as much 
as possible. I totally understand if people decide to ride a back up bike 
if that gives them a peace of mind. I lived in Portland for 20+ years and 
bike theft has always been a huge issue. A few things that gave me peace of 
mind

-locking skewers
-a Mini u-lock locked up ala Sheldon Brown 
(https://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html)- happy to carry a heavy 
lock (strapped on my bike rack)
-Always testing what I was locking to- is it a short street sign someone 
could remove the sign from the top and pull the bike up and over? Is the 
post a little wobbly? Is the item easier to cut than a u-lock, etc
-locking in high traffic areas, I feel within eye sight of windows is even 
more important to me vs amongst other bikes. When it's crowded with other 
bikes people just think- oh, that person is getting their bike. If your 
bike is all alone it's more obvious if someone is fussing with it. 
-not leaving my bike out at night
-Try not to lock up close to intersections (see below for why)

Once my bike was hit by a car (when it was locked up to a stop sign) and 
totaled at an intersection- big nasty crash. The driver's insurance wanted 
to give me pennies on the dollar but my renter's insurance came through and 
paid me the actual cost of my bike! They didn't make it easy, saying if I 
"keep making claims" they would drop me (this was my one and only claim in 
years, which I reminded them), but it was nice to be able to build up a 
similar, and ultimately better bike. Not sure if renters/home owners 
insurance covers theft away from the home, but something worth looking 
into. Definitely not the same since you might have special 
parts/memories/hard to find components, etc, but I was so happy that I was 
able to rebuild a new bike and it didn't have to come out of my pocket. 

On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 8:25:10 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> “don't ride anything that you're not WILLING to lose.”— iamkeith
>
> I live in city (Philadelphia) with bike theft issue. I’ve decided on a 
> commute/lockup bike that I can replace while loving the ride. I bought a 
> She-Devil. If it gets stolen, I can replace it. And, I love the ride for my 
> 2 mile trek. I can bring it into my office, but didn’t know that when I 
> decided on it for commuting. 
>
> I am getting rid of the she-Devil and the bike I’m most likely to ride to 
> work and errands , and lock up is my Playpus.  Because I can replace it. 
>
> When I do lock up my bikes, it’s similar to Jason’s method. One krypton 
>  New York  ULock on frame wheel and pole. Another ulock wheel to frame. 
> Heavy locks but extra protection and peace of mind. I have a third u lock 
> if I’m really nervous.  They’d have to work hard to get the bike. It’s too 
> easy to cut cable—that’s how my last bike got stolen. 
>
> I also will have pitlock on seatpost and saddle ( when I get around to 
> installing them). Need to protect myB68 saddle. 
>
> whatever bike you decide to ride, you should enjoy the ride. 
>
> Roberta 
>
> On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 10:07:25 AM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> I've been leaving my Cheviot locked up with a single Kryptonite mini 
>> U-lock around the frame in NYC for the past few month since I started 
>> working there again
>> [image: 002062 New-U Evolution Mini-5.jpg]
>> I've got Pitlock skewers on my wheels so I'm not concerned with my kind 
>> of expensive dynamo wheel set. ...don't even run cable through them.
>> I should run some sort of permanent cable through my saddle loops to my 
>> seat stays to prevent my seat post and my 20-year old B68 from being ripped 
>> offWill do that next.  I think I can get a Pitlock for the seat cluster 
>> bolt that is keyed the same as my skewers..  *note to call Peter White
>> Yes, the U-lock can be cut, but I'm not leaving the bike out 
>> overnight...and I think where I park it , it would be pretty glaring if 
>> someone showed up with a angle grinder.
>> Maybe there's a better more secure option for the U-lock.
>> JS
>>
>> On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 8:53:33 AM UTC-5 Josh C wrote:
>>
>>> Armand - Hexlox are a good idea. My locking technique is pretty solid 
>>> too. Also, not worrying just discussing. It’s not going to keep me up at 
>>> night it just sort of dawned on me that I was riding a great, but somewhat 
>>> less enjoyable bike for much of my riding and leaving my favorite bikes at 
>>> home. I like your “just do it and stop worrying about it” mentality.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kim - That’s a good point. I’ll give that one a read too. I liked the 
>>> thread about not being precious with these bikes. They are both very 
>>> applicable. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Leah - Thanks for chiming in. After starting this thread someone posted 
>>> to yours about being precious with Rivs and pushed it back to the top. I’ve 
>>> read through that and it was exactly what 

[RBW] Re: New Bike Day X2

[Sarah Carlson]

Tim, that is exciting news! And please post pictures because we need more 
men on mixtes! Every time I find one I show my fiance and say, "see, this 
is a great men's bike!" And he looks at me side eyed. Which makes me want a 
"Men on Mixtes Calendar" Maybe it's a project for next year. 

On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 8:04:01 AM UTC-8 Tim Bantham wrote:

> Hello Riv Bunch, 
>
> My first Riv was a 2TT Sam Hilborne that I purchased in 2017. I had an 
> Appaloosa that I sold just over a year ago. I've regretted selling my Joe 
> ever since. I even saw my old 2TT silver Appaloosa at this years Nutmeg 
> Nor'Easter. I thought about offering to buy it back but I never did ask the 
> new owner. I doubt he would have sold it back to me anyway. The only 
> consolation is that the new owner told me that he loves the bike and rides 
> it nearly every day. 
>
> While at the NNE I saw so many cool Riv's. I was talking to fellow Riv 
> Bunch member Justin Kennedy about his Platypus. My UBU (unresonable bike 
> urge) has been in high gear ever since. 
>
> I will soon become a proud Man on a Mixte and my 60cm Sergio Green 
> complete will be on the way to me very soon. I'm going to change the bars 
> right away to Billie's and will build a nicer wheelset with a Dyno hub 
> before getting it on the road. I figured if Leah can own 3 Platypus's its 
> got to be a good bike! I'm exciting for it's arrival and can't wait to ride 
> it. 
>
> The second inbound Riv is a A. Homer Hilsen frameset. I'm going to build 
> the Homer up as a drop bar road bike keeping it rackless and light as 
> possible. I am thinking about building it as a retro mod with downtube 
> shifter and some older parts. I still need to decide on that. Anyway I 
> thought I'd share the exciting news with fellow bike nerds. The Sam, Platy 
> and AHH will give me a nice collection.  I am feeling very fortunate to be 
> able to add two new bikes to my collection. N+2!
>

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[RBW] Re: New Frame Day

[Sarah Carlson]

Please keep us posted with pictures as your bike comes together. I agree 
with Leah that planning the bike is part of the fun. Having people to 
bounce ideas off of has been such a fun way for me to consider new things. 
I've always been an Albatross/Billie bar person and am about to try Choco 
bars for the first time based on suggestions. This group is full of 
experienced people with lost of great ideas. Congratulations on your bike!

On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 7:23:37 PM UTC-8 Linda G wrote:

> I just unpacked my 50 cm Sergio green Platypus. Gorgeous frame. I love the 
> color and am already planning my overall color scheme. So far: Honey Brooks 
> B67-S, Velo Orange basket weave grips to match the saddle, cables probably 
> gray, and olive Saddlesack XS whenever they are made again. No racks to 
> start. Not flashy, pretty classic!
>
> Awhile back someone started a thread on here about what model bike we 
> would like Rivendell to make. I said a mixte like the Cheviot though with V 
> brakes in a nice color green. I think someone at Riv must have read my 
> entry.
>
> Next I need to take all the parts off my Soma Grand Randonneur and move 
> them over. I decided I'm just not a low trail person. Luckily it is 650B so 
> the wheels will fit and everything else should too. I will need new 
> handlebars and maybe a shorter stem.
>
> Linda
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

[Sarah Carlson]

Joe! Don't get shiny ball syndrome! You have a most excellent frame on its 
way to you!

On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 9:50:23 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> It's so exciting! I can't wait to see your new Purple Platy and all the 
> other new bikes out there. Gosh, now I kinda wish *I* was getting a new 
> frame... 樂
>
> Joe " wishin' and hopin' " Bernard 
>
> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 5:47:48 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> They are trickling in. Mine arrives Wednesday. I hope you get your wife’s 
>> in time! 
>>
>> On Dec 10, 2023, at 8:44 AM, Josh C  wrote:
>>
>> I was just going to ask if anyone had received theirs yet. Hoping to put 
>> my wife's under the tree...or near it I guess. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:52:52 PM UTC-4 Arthur Mayfield wrote:
>>
>>> My Mermaid Platypus 55 frame arrived today (apparently found in their 
>>> stock from last year). This is an *elegant* bike-to-be! All you who 
>>> ordered frames or bikes have a real treat coming! I’m waiting for wheels to 
>>> be built, so plenty of time for frame-saving the tubes and ceramic coating 
>>> the paint before building it up. I already had a B-68 and crankset, 
>>> derailleurs, cassettes, brakes, stem, bars, racks, fenders, etc, so it will 
>>> go together quickly when the wheels get here. I have a blue Sam 52 (caliper 
>>> brakes, 650B) in *really* nice condition that will likely go on the 
>>> market when I get the Platypus put together, btw. I’m in NC.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 7:51:25 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>>>
 Peter, great info re: the Mardi Gras colors! I'm thinking of gold + 
 green, harlequin-style, for the purple bike. 

 (I'm also remembering the smell of sweet olive blossoms and the taste 
 of a real beignet and the sound of Preservation Hall...my mom was born 
 there and I love to visit!)

 S.

 On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 12:00 PM Peter Adler  
 wrote:

> Green + purple + yellow = Mardi Gras bike. Go to New Orleans during 
> the season, and all the plastic beads thrown from the parade floats are 
> in 
> those three colors. Maybe yellow bar tape or water bottles.
>
> Peter "laisse les bons temps rouler sur vélo" Adler
> Berkeley, CA
>
> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:04:20 AM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:
>
>
> I’m hoping to snag a 50cm green complete for my wife. I’ve had several 
> Rivs and she’s never had the experience. She’s mentioned several times 
> that 
> a step-through style bike interests her. She has some purple Paul bits on 
> her current bike that I think will look nice with the green instead of 
> two 
> different purples. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

[Sarah Carlson]

Or a picture of the bike in a small pretty box she can open... That would 
be a really fun way to learn you are getting a Platypus... Can you talk to 
my husband please??!

On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 5:44:45 AM UTC-8 Josh C wrote:

> I was just going to ask if anyone had received theirs yet. Hoping to put 
> my wife's under the tree...or near it I guess. 
>
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:52:52 PM UTC-4 Arthur Mayfield wrote:
>
>> My Mermaid Platypus 55 frame arrived today (apparently found in their 
>> stock from last year). This is an *elegant* bike-to-be! All you who 
>> ordered frames or bikes have a real treat coming! I’m waiting for wheels to 
>> be built, so plenty of time for frame-saving the tubes and ceramic coating 
>> the paint before building it up. I already had a B-68 and crankset, 
>> derailleurs, cassettes, brakes, stem, bars, racks, fenders, etc, so it will 
>> go together quickly when the wheels get here. I have a blue Sam 52 (caliper 
>> brakes, 650B) in *really* nice condition that will likely go on the 
>> market when I get the Platypus put together, btw. I’m in NC.
>>
>> On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 7:51:25 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>>
>>> Peter, great info re: the Mardi Gras colors! I'm thinking of gold + 
>>> green, harlequin-style, for the purple bike. 
>>>
>>> (I'm also remembering the smell of sweet olive blossoms and the taste of 
>>> a real beignet and the sound of Preservation Hall...my mom was born there 
>>> and I love to visit!)
>>>
>>> S.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 12:00 PM Peter Adler  wrote:
>>>
 Green + purple + yellow = Mardi Gras bike. Go to New Orleans during the 
 season, and all the plastic beads thrown from the parade floats are in 
 those three colors. Maybe yellow bar tape or water bottles.

 Peter "laisse les bons temps rouler sur vélo" Adler
 Berkeley, CA

 On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:04:20 AM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:


 I’m hoping to snag a 50cm green complete for my wife. I’ve had several 
 Rivs and she’s never had the experience. She’s mentioned several times 
 that 
 a step-through style bike interests her. She has some purple Paul bits on 
 her current bike that I think will look nice with the green instead of two 
 different purples. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

[Doug H.]

Agreed Johnny. The Altus derailers are classy in a functional way. 
Doug

On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 7:35:56 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Agreed. Beautiful. I really love those Altus rear derailers. 
>
> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 4:14:32 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> That's a lovely bicycle, Dorothy 
>>
>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 1:06:48 PM UTC-8 Dorothy C wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_0422.jpeg]Here’s mine with a lot of tranferred parts off a 
>>> 2019 45cm Clem
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 11:50:41 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Definitely try the Clem saddle first. It's promoted by Riv as an Actual 
 Good Saddle, and certainly a better option for a lockup bike than the 
 spiffy/pricey Brookses we all know and love around here. 

 On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 11:21:26 AM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:

> The website clearly says it comes with a saddle so I would give them a 
> call. It's described as the Clem saddle though and I found the saddle 
> that 
> came with my Clem to be nothing more than a courtesy saddle. If thats 
> what 
> it is I would highly suggest purchasing a better saddle that works well 
> for 
> you.
>
> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 2:00:58 PM UTC-5 SallyG wrote:
>
>> Hi Dorothy,
>>
>> Good question! 
>>
>> We didn't even open the box because our shop was just about to close 
>> and the owner was waiting for us...I didn't buy one, so I'm sure we'll 
>> get 
>> a phone call by Monday if there wasn't one in the box...and I'll alert 
>> you:) Maybe Will can send you one separately? I know it clearly stated 
>> there would be a saddle. 
>>
>> Sally
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 10:54 AM Dorothy C  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sally did your complete include a saddle? Will said there would be, 
>>> but I didn’t get one with mine
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 10:25:18 AM UTC-8 SallyG wrote:
>>>
 My husband's (okay, really, OUR) 50 cm purple Platy complete 
 arrived yesterday by UPS!

 We loaded it up asap to get it to our local bike shop before it 
 closed (not being as savvy mechanically as most of you all...but 
 equally 
 excited for sure:)... I'd already ordered the pedals, kickstand, tape, 
 twine, etc. 

 Xmas came early here in California! 

 Cheers to all...

 On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 9:50 AM Joe Bernard  
 wrote:

> It's so exciting! I can't wait to see your new Purple Platy and 
> all the other new bikes out there. Gosh, now I kinda wish *I* was 
> getting a 
> new frame... 樂
>
> Joe " wishin' and hopin' " Bernard 
>
> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 5:47:48 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle 
> Ding Ding! wrote:
>
>> They are trickling in. Mine arrives Wednesday. I hope you get 
>> your wife’s in time! 
>>
>> On Dec 10, 2023, at 8:44 AM, Josh C  wrote:
>>
>> I was just going to ask if anyone had received theirs yet. 
>> Hoping to put my wife's under the tree...or near it I guess. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:52:52 PM UTC-4 Arthur Mayfield 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My Mermaid Platypus 55 frame arrived today (apparently found in 
>>> their stock from last year). This is an *elegant* bike-to-be! 
>>> All you who ordered frames or bikes have a real treat coming! I’m 
>>> waiting 
>>> for wheels to be built, so plenty of time for frame-saving the 
>>> tubes and 
>>> ceramic coating the paint before building it up. I already had a 
>>> B-68 and 
>>> crankset, derailleurs, cassettes, brakes, stem, bars, racks, 
>>> fenders, etc, 
>>> so it will go together quickly when the wheels get here. I have a 
>>> blue Sam 
>>> 52 (caliper brakes, 650B) in *really* nice condition that will 
>>> likely go on the market when I get the Platypus put together, btw. 
>>> I’m in 
>>> NC.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 7:51:25 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners 
>>> Bunch wrote:
>>>
 Peter, great info re: the Mardi Gras colors! I'm thinking of 
 gold + green, harlequin-style, for the purple bike. 

 (I'm also remembering the smell of sweet olive blossoms and the 
 taste of a real beignet and the sound of Preservation Hall...my 
 mom was 
 born there and I love to visit!)

 S.

 On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 12:00 PM Peter Adler <
 divis...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Green + purple + yellow = Mardi Gras bike. 

Re: [RBW] Re: HUGE Rivendell archive update: Catalogs, flyers, brochures and more

[Ant Warland]

Hi all, just wanted to say a massive thanks to everyone involved in putting 
this archive together. I'm soon to be an Appaloosa owner and am thoroughly 
enjoying learning about the company's history through the early Readers.

In case anyone wants to download the entire archive (all 3.2 Gb of it) for 
reading offline I was able to do so using wget with the following command:

wget -r -np -nH -R index.html* https://notfine.com/rivreader/

Here's how I got wget working on my Windows 10 PC:

1) Downloaded the latest wget EXE for my x64 OS
2) Copied that file to my PATH directory (C:\Window\System32\) - note your 
PATH variable might be different, check it with command 'path' in cmd (see 
below).
3) Opened command prompt (click start, type 'cmd', hit Enter)
4) Navigated to my downloads directory with command 'cd Downloads'. Again 
this might differ for you.
5) copied and pasted (right click in command prompt) the wget command above

This creates a new directory 'rivreader' and downloads every file and 
folder from https://notfine.com/rivreader/

If you want to download specific directory only (E.g. Ads), use the command:

wget -r -np -nH --cut-dirs=1 -R index.html* 
https://notfine.com/rivreader/Ads/

*Note *that https://notfine.com/rivreader/ has identical contents to 
https://notfine.com/rivendell/ so either one is good.

Hope this is helpful,
Ant
On Sunday 8 January 2023 at 22:49:24 UTC Patrick Moore wrote:

> That 1994 Gazette is a blast from the past; I remember receiving it and 
> reading about Pino Morroni as I was probably Bob # 4301. Randy Quaid and 
> Meg Ryan owned XO-1s; I either missed that 30 years ago or didn't know who 
> Randy Quaid or Meg Ryan were -- quite possible. And I remember WordPerfect; 
> possibly Wordstar too.
>
> Thanks to Marty for scanning these.
>
> $74 for a Rivendell jersey
>
> On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 11:42 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> Hi Kim — Yes, that's all of them. Big thanks to Marty Gierke for scanning 
>> all of them :) 
>>
>> On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 8:45:51 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Eric,
>>>
>>> Is this all of the BOB Gazettes ?
>>> http://notfine.com/rivendell/BOB-Gazette/
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 9:16:41 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It sure would be great to have all the BoB Gazettes scanned and 
 archived!

 On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 10:55:42 AM UTC-5 Marty Gierke, 
 Stewartstown PA wrote:

> Some rare BOB Gazettes popped up today and I made an offer, but the 
> seller pulled the listing. Issues 5,6 and 7 would have been fun to have 
> and 
> scan. I hope they will re-surface here. I grabbed a few front page screen 
> shots - better than nothing, and kind of a tease. Issue 6 talks about 
> keeping BOB on life support. Issue 7 (the last?) hints at a business 
> making 
> "BOBcyles". This was late 1994...Rivendell was about to emerge. 
>
> Marty
>
> [image: s-l1600.jpeg]
> [image: dfsdfg.jpeg]
> [image: fawerr.jpeg]
>
> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 12:49:58 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all -- Quick update: I've scanned some additional material and 
>> Reed has added it to the Rivendell archive at 
>> http://notfine.com/rivendell
>>
>> Brochures
>>
>>- Rivendell Safety Sheet
>>- Sam Hillborne brochure
>>- The Rivendell Frame booklet 2002
>>
>> Flyers
>>
>>- 2000 Hiawatha Holidays
>>- 2008 Frames
>>- 2012 Comfort
>>- 2014 Holiday Handout
>>- 2017 Holiday Flyer
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 10:18:38 AM UTC-4 EricP wrote:
>>
>>> I have already mailed the Hillborne brochure and the small fold up 
>>> catalog to Eric for him to scan.
>>>
>>> Eric Platt
>>> St. Paul, MN
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 12:35:44 AM UTC-5 Cyclofiend Jim 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Wow. 
 Eric - that is a wonderful contribution.

 I don't think I ever got a Cheviot brochure, and I have the 
 Hiawatha Holidays No. II, but not No. 1

 I've got a few ephemeral bits and bobs, on my list to scan - just 
 flipped quickly through my box o' stuff and found:
 Original Banana Bag instructions (similar in style to the Boxy Bag 
 instructions), some WoolyWarm stuff, a few one sheets on various bits. 
  
 There was also a tiny little fold-up products "catalog" that I have a 
 few 
 of. A few paper Atlantis catalog handouts. 

 - Jim

 On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-7 
 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've spent the last several months scanning my collection of 
> Rivendell catalogs, flyers, ads and brochures. 
>
> Reed, who hosts