[RBW] WTB - 9spd Dura Ace downtube shifters

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Asking for a good friend. I can facilitate the sale.
Is this a unicorn? 

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Racks and a Brooks

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Stephen, 
Can you tell me the length of the longer struts? Also, have the shorter 
struts been cut or just bent? 
Thanks, 
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va. 

On Sunday, April 7, 2024 at 5:21:00 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:

> *Brooks B67 in Honey *- $120 + shipping
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/brooks-b67-honey-11043
> Condition: Very Good, nearly new. Ridden maybe a maximum of 10 times, 
> short rides. Not broken in, leather is still stiff. I applied Obenaufs at 
> one point, as you can see on the bottom of the saddle.
>
> [image: IMG_6576.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_6575.jpg]
>
>
> *Nitto/RBW Front Basket Rack (RBW52F)* - $200 + shipping
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/a7s5klhjwe-oith-lk5465a
> Condition: Very Good, have used this rack in conjunction with a wald 
> basket quite regularly. There are marks on the top of the rack from the 
> laden baskets, but otherwise very clean. All original hardware, 
> nuts/bolts/darumas and stays included. Everything freshly cleaned/wiped 
> down. 
> [image: IMG_6568.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_6569.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_6570.jpg]
>
> *Nitto R-14 Rear rack with load stop* - $100 + Shipping
> https://crustbikes.com/products/nitto-r14-rear-rack
> Condition: Very good, except the stays have been shortened and (in the 
> case of the uppers) bent by me. The longer set were shortened to work with 
> the mid seatstay braze ons for my appaloosa. depending on your set up you 
> will need new stays.
>
> [image: IMG_6572.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_6573.jpg]
>
>
> Thats all for now. Feel free to reach out w/questions. I think shipping 
> usually ends up around $10-15. Can forgo shipping and arrange local hand 
> off if you are close to charlotte/gastonia NC.
>
> thanks for looking,
>
> Stephen
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Eroica California

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Your bike profile pic is as classic-looking as all get out Bill. Very 
tasty. Question: Is this bike taller then you usual? (I'm trying to recall 
all those...)
If my bro-in-law still lived on the West Coast, I'd consider doing that 
ride, since I have read about it for quite a long time.
A Flickr album from you if you do i, please kind sir..
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Tuesday, April 2, 2024 at 10:28:57 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I've got the bike for it, and I'm just waiting for the stars to align to 
> do the ride.  My "Eroica Bike" is a time capsule 1983 Univega Gran Premio. 
>  I've got ~700 miles on it, and will not have any issue using it for an 
> Eroica day.  
>
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/49563967306/in/album-72157713199195553/
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Tuesday, April 2, 2024 at 9:41:21 AM UTC-7 chefd...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Curious if anyone on this forum is also a Vintage enthusiast and has 
>> interest in the Eroica event that is run on the Central Coast of 
>> California. I've ridden it a few times on my PX-10... its a great ride, 
>> although the organization that runs the event has had its ups and downs 
>> over the years. Currently, the website lists September 22, 2024 as the run 
>> date, but the registration button leads to last year's sign-updoes 
>> anyone have any better intel? 
>
>

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[RBW] FS - VO Happy Stem, 90mm

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(Please forgive the cross-post on the I-BOB list.)
I purchased a VO Happy Stem in the 90mm length and used it for about 50 
miles. It has VO's usual attention to details and polish. But I found 
another solution and hoping someone can make use of it now.
[image: IMG_8371.jpeg] 
Details: 
1-1/8" Threadless , 90mm length (resulting in 97mm vertical height.) 45 
degree rise. 
This stem is designed for 31.8mm bars but I can supply the VO alloy shims 
(25.4mm-to-31.8mm) as seen in my images and listed on their web site at 
$12.00. Yours for $6.00 additional if you need them. (I used them 
successfully with 26mm bars.)  
203g weight.
Additional info: Will not work with a threadless adapter. Long compression 
bolt means no stem cap required. 
As seen on the VO web site: 
https://velo-orange.com/collections/threadless-stems/products/vo-happy-stem-31-8mm?variant=50655225223
Flickr images: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720315437684/
MSRP: $46 (plus tax & shipping) Yours shipped USPS at my expense for $36, 
plus $6 if you need the handlebar shims.
Reply off list for questions please.
Thanks,
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

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[RBW] Re: I only have 1 chance to get a Rivendell.. which would you recommend?

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Dear A.H.,
Welcome!  I can't speak to the Platypus except it has wide acceptance here. 
However, I do have both a Sam Hillborne and a A.H. Homer Hilsen. Both are 
capable on pavement and dirt roads/rail trails, etc. The lighter tubing on 
the Homer makes it a bit more lively but the Sam is more capable for 
touring. 
My bikes both date to 2015 and before. So, the Sam has Paul center pulls 
and the Homer was converted to Paul Touring cantilevers. Both have fenders 
and use 38mm tires. Both use moustache bars (for different reasons).
So, I'd say, "pick your poison" depending on the type of riding you expect 
to do and what you intend to carry.. (And maybe your personal body weight. 
I am 170 lbs.+ -).
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/53407463860/in/album-72177720313691125/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/53181801054/in/album-72177720313691125/
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Midlothian, Va.




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[RBW] Re: FS: Roadini 50CM

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James, that seems to be a screaming deal! I'm on the East Coast and not in 
the market anyway. But I hope a list member winds up with this one.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Saturday, February 24, 2024 at 11:48:20 AM UTC-5 James B wrote:

> I recently purchased this Roadini but due to circumstances of life, I must 
> pare down my fleet.  $1800 for local pickup in the San Diego area.  I am 
> willing to ship but buyer will be responsible for shipping. 
> 50 cm frame  PBH range of 77-83
> 9 cm Nitto stem
> 46cm Nitto bars
> Silver 2 shifters
> Nitto Seatpost
> Shimano Nexave Rear Derailleur
> Microshift Front Derailleur
> Velocity RIms laced to Shimano 105 hubs 32 hole
> Panaracer 700x38 Gravelkings
> Tektro R559 Brakes
> Silver 2 crankset
> Berthound Aravis Saddle (ti Rails)
> The bike is in perfect condition with 0 scratches. 
>

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[RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

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*"Those who do will appreciate the richness of detail and see quite a story 
narrated here."*

So well said Andy.  It doesn't necessarily make us geeks, Maybe curators?

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:31:40 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:

> What a build Bill. 
>
> I said to Leah when she was considering the plunge for some bespoke bits 
> that as you ride more, your experiences forge preferences for particular 
> bike pieces and components. Each part that stands above discrete makes the 
> bike you build or upgrade embody those stories and are a record of your 
> riding like a scrapbook. Those who don't understand won't notice. Those who 
> do will appreciate the richness of detail and see quite a story narrated 
> here.
>
> I get it!
>
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>>
>> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  Legolas 
>> fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>>
>> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  TPU 
>> tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>>
>> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm bottom 
>> bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R Der, Down 
>> tube shifters.  KMC chain
>>
>> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and housing. 
>>  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake levers 
>> (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 saddle
>>
>> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene Herse 
>> pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>>
>> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
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[RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

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Adam,

I meant to add that prices on digital micrometers seem to have gone down 
over time. I replaced my old "analog" PITA micrometer on Amazon for 
twenty-five bucks. I would not go for the cheapest though. I opted for one 
with an auto "OFF" setting so you won't burn the battery out when you set 
it down and forget it.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 10:55:25 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Adam,
>
> Just saying . If you like the paint job on your bike, be mindful when 
> applying muscle to the BB remover tool. You'll be using a heavy-ish 
> adjustable wrench. So, adjust it so it's snug. It's pretty easy to have 
> that tool come out and the wrench can chip the vulnerable BB shell paint 
> edge. Ask me how I know.
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 1:07:21 PM UTC-5 Adam wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> A while back I posted about low q, low-range cranks for my Hillborne.
>>
>> I just ordered one of the VO 46/30s, which seems like a good option at 
>> the price. I'll use the stock rings first, then tweak them down the road.
>>
>> A few questions - I'm going to try the install myself--I think--and this 
>> is my first attempt.
>>
>> I understand that the VO 46/30 is supposed to be paired with a 118mm BB. 
>> I have read on here of folks using shorter spindles. I currently have 
>> either a 113 or 115mm on the Hillborne. I'm assuming the only way to know 
>> is to remove the cranks and measure? Has anyone here tried a shorter 
>> spindle on their Hillborne with the VO cranks?
>>
>> My question - Should I try simply swapping cranks and see how the VO 
>> cranks do at 115/113mm? If so, what would I be watching for to suggest a 
>> problem? OR is this a dumb way to start tinkering with cranks? And if so, 
>> any thoughts on swapping BB vs taking it a shop? (I have great shops 
>> nearby, but like to gradually learn a few things every so often.)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

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Adam,

Just saying . If you like the paint job on your bike, be mindful when 
applying muscle to the BB remover tool. You'll be using a heavy-ish 
adjustable wrench. So, adjust it so it's snug. It's pretty easy to have 
that tool come out and the wrench can chip the vulnerable BB shell paint 
edge. Ask me how I know.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 1:07:21 PM UTC-5 Adam wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> A while back I posted about low q, low-range cranks for my Hillborne.
>
> I just ordered one of the VO 46/30s, which seems like a good option at the 
> price. I'll use the stock rings first, then tweak them down the road.
>
> A few questions - I'm going to try the install myself--I think--and this 
> is my first attempt.
>
> I understand that the VO 46/30 is supposed to be paired with a 118mm BB. I 
> have read on here of folks using shorter spindles. I currently have either 
> a 113 or 115mm on the Hillborne. I'm assuming the only way to know is to 
> remove the cranks and measure? Has anyone here tried a shorter spindle on 
> their Hillborne with the VO cranks?
>
> My question - Should I try simply swapping cranks and see how the VO 
> cranks do at 115/113mm? If so, what would I be watching for to suggest a 
> problem? OR is this a dumb way to start tinkering with cranks? And if so, 
> any thoughts on swapping BB vs taking it a shop? (I have great shops 
> nearby, but like to gradually learn a few things every so often.)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Adam
>
>

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[RBW] FS - Vintage 1989 Brooks Professional saddle, brown.

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I mounted this veteran saddle new on my (then new) 1989 custom Bontrager 
CX. While I never raced CX, this thing went off and on road for 30 years 
before I retired it. It's built like a tank, and despite the "Pre-Softened" 
designation on the top, I barely managed to imprint my sit bones into it. 
The leather is thick with very little give! However, it can be surprisingly 
comfy for short (under 50 miles) rides. Maybe that is why Jan Heine chose 
it as his go-to saddle for years and would always mount it on his test 
bikes. (Until he began selling another brand.) 
It is in good shape, with minimal wear, no tears or major scrapes, etc. The 
copper rivets are exceptionally handsome compared to current, IMHO. It 
might make a perfect addition to a restoration. You could tour with it and 
not worry about rain! I can't see my using it as wall art if someone can 
make use of it.
Chrome rails, which originally were anodized copper. When Brooks began 
using titanium rails, I switched my five Brooks to that. (It seems they 
have moved away from titanium because of a price hike.)
My measurements vary a little from what Brooks has listed on their web 
site, so I will put their dimensions and weight in parenthesis:
W: 150mm (160mm) x L: 285mm (275mm)
Weight: 454g (540g)
Though eBay prices for these (used) are all over the place ($50 to $245 and 
up before shipping,) I saw very few which looked as good was this one.
I will ship at my expense USPS Medium Flat Rate box (CONUS) for $60.
My Flickr images, some normal light (leather appears dark) and some bright 
light:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720314045543

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[RBW] Re: WTB - Lightly used Brooks Cambium C17, natural color

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*Just to put a cap on this subject, here is the reply from Brooks after the 
holidays:*

Dear PAUL

Thanks for getting in touch.
The rubber top of Cambium saddles is not available as replacement part, 
unfortunately,
I am sorry for no better news.

Thank you and kind regards,
 

Laura
Brooks England Customer Service
www.brooksengland.com

*I did find it rather odd though. On their web site, they now offer a 
 Cambium model with a "recycled" nylon back. What do I do with the hardware 
from the undercarriage on my  old one?  I sure wish I could keep it out of 
 the landfill.*

*Paul Germain*

*Midlothian, Va.*
On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 11:18:14 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> *(Please forgive my cross-post here.)*
> I may have posted a while back images of my 8-year old C15 saddle from my 
> mixed-surface bike on which the top cracked and eventually separated 
> entirely behind the nose rivet. I did get 6,000 miles from it, about what 
> could be expected of many other non-leather saddles.
> [image: IMG_7993.jpeg]
> I contacted Simon Firth (formerly with Bilenky, now Firth & Wilson in 
> Phila.) who is apparently "trained-at-Brooks" and authorized to do repairs 
> on Brooks saddles in North America. But, he cannot get parts. The Cambium 
> design allows for easy replacement of every part, but the Brooks website 
> sells only the superstructure and not the tops.
> I dare say all my leather Brooks predate the C15 and look to be on track 
> to outlive me someday soon. While I am a leather saddle fan (5 Brooks in 
> use currently) I have particular reasons for wanting to replace the old 
> Cambium saddle with another.
> My nether-regions would not allow me to use my old C15 for much more than 
> 50-60 mile rides.  So, I figure this might be a good chance to try a 
> slightly wider Cambium, a C17, which Brooks says is the same width as a 
> B17, in the hope that it will be a bit more comfy than the C15.
> If anyone has purchased a C17 in the natural color and it did not suit 
> you, respond here or send me a PM.
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>

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Re: [RBW] Northern Hemisphere Winter 2023-2024 Ride Photos

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Jock Dewey, That bike is a vision of the perfectly proportioned bicycle in 
my opinion. Uncluttered, though there is a place for utilitarian racks, 
bags, etc. on bikes for other uses than the pure joy of riding. A lot of 
thought went into it, obviously, from the quietly understated color to the 
wheels, fenders, even the Acorn bag!  (Great backdrop too! How about a 
"Dewey bikes" calendar in 2025?)
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 10:58:49 AM UTC-5 John Dewey wrote:

> Here’s CA winter yesterday…grey day by the bay. 
>
> Jock
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 1, 2024 at 2:04 PM Ted Durant  wrote:
>
>> Well, I guess I'm back up for starting the thread.
>>
>> We haven't had much winter weather here, meaning no real snow, yet. A 
>> couple of days ago we had a beautiful, sunny day, temps around 40, and (for 
>> us) not a lot of wind. I took advantage and did the 
>> round-the-city-mostly-bike-paths loop. This is on the Hank Aaron trail. 
>> American Family Field isn't seeing much use these days, but it's just a 
>> handful of weeks before pitchers and catchers report down south.
>> [image: IMG_1825.jpeg]
>>
>> A bit more blustery and a bit of sleet yesterday, but I managed to sneak 
>> in a bit of a ride. Today pal Kurt and I did a 100km effort. Forecast was 
>> for temps around 30 and some sunshine. You can see how that turned out. 
>> I'll take 100km on 1/1, though! Kurt's riding his Gunnar Sport. I bet that 
>> bike has over 30,000 kms on it, including an epic 200km on a bitter cold 
>> January 31st, to get him an R-12 just under the wire.
>> [image: IMG_1829.jpeg]
>>
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee WI USA
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS - Two used large canvas saddlebags

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Both saddlebags are spoken for, pending payment. 
Thanks to all on the list.
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 10:34:51 AM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Hey all, I have a serious bike bag addiction. So, bumping these two fine 
> but overlapping ones out of the nest in order to buy more! Both show some 
> age and usage, but are in fine condition with no problems. Either will 
> serve you well. (I'd put my money on the Carradice outlasting you unless 
> you are 20 yrs old!) 
> PM me if any questions or comments. And, forgive my cross-posting on 
> another list.
> Thanks,
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> *FS - Acorn Large Black Waxed Canvas* saddlebag with tan leather straps, 
> ca. 2014 (model). I am original owner. Approx. 7L capacity, 15"w x 7"h x 
> 6"d, 30 oz. / 850 g. In very good shape with a minimum of fade, no scuffs 
> or tears. A number of places on the outer flap were pierced for state park 
> pins, noticeable outside and inside the flap, upon close inspection. This 
> 2014 model included a leather standoff to keep bag off the seat post and 
> two side pockets with turnbuckle closures. I have priced it at 1/2 the 2014 
> price (without shipping costs).
> $70, net to me, shipping cost paid by buyer. (From zip 23113) Prefer Zelle 
> payment but could do Pay Pal.
> Images: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720313738268/
>
> *FS - Carradice Junior Saddlebag*, black canvas, white leather straps. No 
> outside pockets on this model. I am original owner of this bag, purchased 
> from Harris Cyclery in 2007.  9L capacity, 30cm wide x 18cm high x 15 cm 
> deep. Weight, 440g.  A number of places on the outer flap were pierced for 
> state park pins, noticeable outside and inside the flap, upon close 
> inspection. In very good shape with a minimum of fade and no scuffs or 
> tears. The white leather straps show superficial cracking on the outside 
> surface, which is usual for all the Carradice bags I have owned. 
> $45, net to me, shipping cost paid by buyer. (From zip 23113) Prefer Zelle 
> payment but could do Pay Pal.
> Images: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720313729416
>
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[RBW] FS - Two used large canvas saddlebags

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hey all, I have a serious bike bag addiction. So, bumping these two fine 
but overlapping ones out of the nest in order to buy more! Both show some 
age and usage, but are in fine condition with no problems. Either will 
serve you well. (I'd put my money on the Carradice outlasting you unless 
you are 20 yrs old!) 
PM me if any questions or comments. And, forgive my cross-posting on 
another list.
Thanks,
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

*FS - Acorn Large Black Waxed Canvas* saddlebag with tan leather straps, 
ca. 2014 (model). I am original owner. Approx. 7L capacity, 15"w x 7"h x 
6"d, 30 oz. / 850 g. In very good shape with a minimum of fade, no scuffs 
or tears. A number of places on the outer flap were pierced for state park 
pins, noticeable outside and inside the flap, upon close inspection. This 
2014 model included a leather standoff to keep bag off the seat post and 
two side pockets with turnbuckle closures. I have priced it at 1/2 the 2014 
price (without shipping costs).
$70, net to me, shipping cost paid by buyer. (From zip 23113) Prefer Zelle 
payment but could do Pay Pal.
Images: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720313738268/

*FS - Carradice Junior Saddlebag*, black canvas, white leather straps. No 
outside pockets on this model. I am original owner of this bag, purchased 
from Harris Cyclery in 2007.  9L capacity, 30cm wide x 18cm high x 15 cm 
deep. Weight, 440g.  A number of places on the outer flap were pierced for 
state park pins, noticeable outside and inside the flap, upon close 
inspection. In very good shape with a minimum of fade and no scuffs or 
tears. The white leather straps show superficial cracking on the outside 
surface, which is usual for all the Carradice bags I have owned. 
$45, net to me, shipping cost paid by buyer. (From zip 23113) Prefer Zelle 
payment but could do Pay Pal.
Images: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720313729416

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[RBW] Re: Did anyone get one of the new Acorn Bags yesterday?

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Jon,
I noticed that Acorn continues to modify and improve most of their bags. 
The "Large" saddle bags now seem to have gone back to the drawstring inside 
(instead of the recent zippers) and two leather straps to hold the flap 
down (instead of the more recent single shock cord). A nice new touch (in 
my opinion) is the replacement of the larger and wider side pockets with 
flatter zippered pockets on the sides. 

Those new flat side pockets make the bag a little more narrow and 
"streamlined," even a cleaner look. I never liked the larger side pockets 
on my old Carradice bags much. 

Though the leather "flap" straps are a bit slower to deal with than the 
single shock cord on the flap, I think they lend a nice look, dare I say 
"retro'? And a bit more secure, I feel.

My 2 cents. I have been a big fan of Acorn and their "MUSA cottage 
industry" model. The workmanship has always been superb and pricing is 
super fair.  I've probably owned more than 18 of their bags over the years. 
Great folks to work with, too.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 6:43:05 AM UTC-5 modemm...@gmail.com wrote:

> I got one of the new Acorn Bags "large saddlebags" yesterday when they 
> became available.  Did anyone else get any of the new bags?  I'm excited to 
> check this one out when it arrives!

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[RBW] Re: Newer Sam Hillborne/Toyo Atlantis crossover

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Dear exliontamer, I would agree with both Randy and with Frank about the 
two bikes. For a couple of years, I owned a very nice Toyo (2014?) 
Atlantis, hardly used when I purchased it. When that proved to be more bike 
than I thought I needed, I purchased a new 2015 Sam Hillborne, single top 
tube. The main difference is in the ride. I felt the fatter tires afforded 
by the Atlantis did not make up for the stiffer ride. (I am 160 lbs.) 
The Hillborne immediately was crowned my dedicated tourer and has done 
numerous tours up to 7 days, on and off-pavement (rail trails) shod with 38 
mm tires and fenders. It has proved to be reliable and comfortable for that 
purpose and I would not hesitate to make it a daily ride. (My Hilsen is 
somewhat more lively but not sure about touring on it.)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/48959491076/in/album-72157711498338087/
Of course, tire width preferences have changed a bit since 2015 and I might 
look at the Atlantis a little differently now - if I had not had a constant 
problem with chain suck which I never got a handle on. The Atlantis took 
wider tires back then with the help of chain stays which flared outward 
like the old mountain bike chain stays instead of straight back from the BB 
shell.
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Monday, November 27, 2023 at 10:04:27 AM UTC-5 frank.b...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I have both a Toyo Atlantis and an early Sam Hillborne. I agree that the 
> Atlantis is pretty stout and I don't notice much flexing, even if pushed 
> hard. My Sam feels lighter and easier to get up to cruising speed when 
> riding. I ride them both in the city, light touring, and limited MTB 
> trails, they will both do the job. The largest difference is the tire 
> clearances. If you haven't noticed that this is an issue for you, I would 
> say it probably wouldn't be as big of a difference as you might think. 
> Having said that, if I were to get rid of one, it would be the Sam. Hope 
> that this helps!
> -Frank  
>
> On Monday, November 27, 2023 at 2:55:05 AM UTC-5 andrew.s...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I have both a toyo atlantis and i think a 2011 (double top tube, 
>> centermount) hillborne. They are markedly different beasts, atlantis with 
>> clearance for days, 2.2s could fit comfortably, the sam has narrower 
>> chainstays that limit it to 48s with some rubbing on high effort pushes. 
>> Tubing seems to be about the same stoutness, though the extra top tube 
>> might have something to do with that. The setups are different too, one 
>> intended for townie cruising, comfort, and gravel road touring in all 
>> weather, the other geared for more spirited road riding with capacity to 
>> jump into gravel roads and hairy descents. I will say, i do wish 
>> occasionally for a more road forward bike having the atlantis, but i make 
>> do with what i have. 
>> -Randy in Portland, OR
>> On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 9:39:04 AM UTC-8 exliontamer wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the insights. I have a potential trade for another frame I 
>>> have but I have a feeling they'd be too similar outside of the slightly 
>>> lighter tubing. 
>>> On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 8:00:55 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 The difference would be tubing. Hillborne is a "country bike" not 
 intended to carry touring loads or bomb around on gnarly trails. Atlantis 
 (that's one the I owned) is a beefy frame which will take just about 
 anything you can throw at it. 

 On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 5:29:30 PM UTC-8 brycel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> If you compare the two bikes on bike insights, they're almost 
> identical except the new Sams have more stack.
>
> On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 12:36:39 PM UTC-5 exliontamer wrote:
>
>> Just curious if anyone has any real world experience with both of 
>> these bikes, and if so, how similar they feel & ride (aside from obvious 
>> differences like tire clearance). I have a 61 Atlantis and am looking at 
>> a 
>> 60 Hillborne. Thanks!
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: "Trust, but Verify"

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Please add my own thanks for your volunteer work Jim. 
BTW, I still send folks to the old Cyclofiend.com site to see the bikes I 
was fortunate enough to add there. If you need contributions to help defray 
any costs of maintaining it in place, let us know.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Friday, November 24, 2023 at 2:32:34 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> +1; thanks, Jim.
>
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 11:52 AM RichS  wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Many, many thanks for your continued diligence and efforts to be the good 
>> gatekeeper that you've been for so long!
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 4:13:57 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Jim for the reminder and thank you for being our 
>>> admin/moderator. Much appreciated.
>>>
>>> BTW, Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
>>>
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 1:11:02 PM UTC-5 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>>>
 Putting on the admin cap this morning:

 I had a couple of members reach out to me regarding some interactions 
 following a "WTB/WTT" posting.

 They were contacted directly by a "member" who had just what they 
 wanted. Luckily, both of the original posters did a bit of due diligence 
 and realized that the images had been pulled from other forums, and the 
 person who contacted them had some fairly sketchy responses. Both 
 individuals wisely stepped away from the transaction. 

 This is a reminder that it's up to you to verify the validity of anyone 
 with whom you are dealing. One quick way to do so is by searching 
 conversations in this group under the person's email address. In this case 
 the "member" who exhibited hinky behavior had been in this group for all 
 of 
 6 days. They had not contributed to any conversations and were still 
 moderated. 

 Bear in mind that a moderated/unknown member can still contact you 
 directly. That's what this individual did in these cases. 

 As a reminder, if you are engaging in transactions, the onus is upon 
 you to confirm identity and validity of the person and conditions. Ask 
 questions. Require an image with today's newspaper or some other 
 verifiable, unique aspect. Search them in the group. 
 In other words, "Trust, but verify."

 Thankful, as always, for all of you in this group.

 admin mode OFF

 Jim

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[RBW] Re: Anna Purple

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Bill Lindsay, would you stop parading that "smoke" purple Legolas in front 
of me? Trying to make me jealous? (Kidding aside, there could not be a 
nicer looking bike, IMHO.)

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 2:57:09 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> My purple Rivendell is pretty different from most other purple Rivendells. 
>  I was going for a "mineral purple" and the name of the shade is Amethyst 
> Smoke.  
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/51310826119/in/photolist-26anPuR-2iHBJM3-2iHDjYZ-2mbaoXR
>
> Bill "smoke 'em if you got 'em" Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 6:34:41 AM UTC-8 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> Curious what folks think of the Riv frames in purple. I personally am on 
>> the fence. I keep looking at it and can't decide if I would like it or not. 
>> I would be perfectly fine with any of the other Riv colors but the purple 
>> is a bit polarizing to me. Of course I am betting it looks great in person. 
>> Thoughts? 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Club Rides On A Racing Platypus

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Leah,

As a grandfather of three - two now grown - this was fun to read. I am sure 
the little girl caught your enthusiasm. When I can, I slow down and call 
out, "Nice bike!" to very young riders I encounter on our local trail. We 
are all ambassadors.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 9:12:31 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I really do have the sweetest, cutest story from the Tuesday night women’s 
> ride. 
>
> We had a small group of 7 riders that night. We were several miles in when 
> suddenly from behind, I heard two unfamiliar voices, one belonging to a 
> child, and one belonging to a man. I looked back and was astounded - there 
> at the end of our peloton was an 8 year old girl on a tiny blue Trek bike, 
> wearing her matching blue helmet, blonde hair flying and huge grin on full 
> display. I looked at her father, helmetless and riding his own bike. He 
> wore a look half proud and half sheepish. “This is Braelyn, and she’s been 
> watching you go by every week,” he said. “And she’s been wanting to ride 
> with you; she said, ‘Daddy, Tuesday night at 6:50 they’ll be here.’ And she 
> got ready so she could join you tonight.” I looked at my speedometer…we 
> were riding at over 17 mph. She moved up behind me and another woman fell 
> in behind her. 
>
> “Ok, honey, you listen for when I call out things like stick or hole, ok?” 
>
> “Ok!” she said, flashing a Cheshire Cat grin. And we pedaled on, flying 
> over country roads with our tiny companion and her daddy. She stayed with 
> us for a few miles and then they peeled off after the second set of 
> railroad tracks. I wish I had gotten a photo, but maybe next week we’ll see 
> her again and I’ll get my chance.
>
> I’m sure we were in violation of like 30 club rules but Michigan doesn’t 
> scold you for things like these. Braelyn and her little Trek, legs flying 
> and hair streaming…I doubt we will ever see anything better than her on the 
> Tuesday Night Ride.
> On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 4:38:01 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Delicious!
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 3:58 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ... Some guy will come find me at my vehicle and tell me how I’m doing 
>>> it wrong. After getting lectured about how I could go 25% faster if I had 
>>> this bike and narrow tires, blah, blah, I say, “Well, I just beat you, so I 
>>> don’t think my bike is the problem.”  
>>>
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Re: [RBW] FS: New Steve Potts Siskiyou Bar

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Paul M,
Great product image! I can't use the bars, but would love that chair! (Ha.) 
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 6:44:51 PM UTC-4 ride2almo...@gmail.com wrote:

> Paul,
>  These look similar to a bar Surly put out of course they don’t have that 
> Lucious finish or clamp diameter.
>
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 5:21 PM Paul M  wrote:
>
>> Unique multi-position handlebar that I never used. Mount your grips, 
>> levers and shifters on the rearward sweep and have the forward handles as 
>> an alternate position. Made by Nitto with the satin nickel appearance. $150 
>> plus shipping. These are sold out everywhere. Contact me off list for more 
>> information and pictures. Thanks, Paul
>>
>> 760mm width
>> 30 degree sweep
>> 80mm reach
>> 72mm back reach
>> 25.4mm bar clamp
>> requires a faceplate stem
>> retail $150
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[RBW] Re: Acorn Bag: Large Saddlebag

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Mathew, I'll take that bag, Thanks. I've been a fan of Acorn and their 
business model for many years and will make good use of it.  I'll send a PM 
with details for shipping.
Paul Germain

On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 2:47:54 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Bump! $130! Free shipping!
>
>
>
> On Jul 24, 2023, at 2:51 PM, Matthew Williams  
> wrote:
>
> Acorn Large Saddlebag
> Black waxed canvas.
> Nearly new: mounted once and only used for a few rides.
> From a pet/smoke/fragrance-free home.
>
> $130.
> Free shipping in the USofA.
> Sorry, no international shipping.
>
> 
>
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Re: [RBW] Best Riv Rando Bike

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Jeepers Eric! Lyle's Ram looks to be from outer space! (That is to say: 
otherworldly.)
My 76-year old body would not likely appreciate randonneuring but if I were 
inclined to go those distances, I can't imagine doing it more comfortably 
than on my Homer: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/52784257986/in/album-72177720307152181/
 
   
While I use a Hillborne for touring, and find it very capable, the Homer is 
decidedly more lively and plenty comfortable shod with 38's. Both are 
fendered and carry front loads.
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 9:37:05 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: download.jpg]
>
> Lyle's raw steel Ram with Mafac RAIDs, Mafac levers, TA cranks. 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 12:15:24 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:
>
>> Adding to Jason's success with the Hillborne, an acquaintance here is 
>> preparing for I believe his third PBP, and this year will be riding a 
>> Hillborne. I have used mine for rando rides and have never been 
>> disappointed.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 11:37:31 PM UTC-4 Bill Gibson wrote:
>>
>>> Riding PBP fixed was tremendous! You can see that at least two guys in 
>>> the background appreciate the significance of a fixed gear. I, too, have 
>>> converted my green Quickbeam to IGH, but a SRAM I-9 cannonball I was given, 
>>> that is incredibly heavy and not really in the spirit of a green Quickbeam, 
>>> but it is mostly flat here, and wind is the only foe. I will someday mess 
>>> with it and go back to it's single speed root. But, for Randonneuring, I 
>>> would want lighter weight, and more ratios to climb the mountain ranges out 
>>> this valley. Hard to argue with a derailleur for weight, but the frame is 
>>> nice for long rides. The frame is maybe too sturdy for light weight long 
>>> rides, but I use it for anything.
>>> Bill Gibson
>>> Tempe, Arizona, USA
>>> My Photographs  : 
>>> https://billbgibson.myportfolio.com/ and on Behance: 
>>> https://www.behance.net/BillGibson 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 2:04 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 Here I am crossing the finish line that year. I felt even worse than I 
 looked.

 [image: PastedGraphic-1.png]

 --Eric Norris
 campyo...@me.com
 Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
 YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

 On Jul 26, 2023, at 1:34 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:

 Eric - PBP on a fixed QB, wow, nice work!  I had done some 100 mile 
 rides on a fixed gear around the same time but nothing like that. 

 I would say that which Rivendell works best (and whether a Rivendell at 
 all is the right call) depends on your randonneuring aspirations and 
 priorities. I have only done a half dozen 200k's so far, so I'm just a 
 dabbler, but my Hillborne is perfectly suited for me despite being heavier 
 and slower than a Ram, presumably. My only complaint is that they should 
 have put third water bottle bosses under the DT; I added my own. But I am 
 not trying to get a competitive time - I am happy being 9:30 - 11:00h 
 finishing time on a 200.  I appreciate the 42mm tires with fenders and the 
 forgiveness they provide.  If I was more competitive I'd probably dip into 
 the back catalog for a Ram, Saluki, earlier Homer, or Bleriot.

 On Wednesday, 26 July 2023 at 12:42:02 UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> The roadini doesn't have front rack braze-ons. But saddlebags or 
> bikepacking style bags would definitely work.
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 12:15 PM Toshi Takeuchi  
> wrote:
>
>> The Roadini is worth some consideration.  Many people finish PBP on 
>> carbon fiber racing bikes, so you could definitely do it with a Roadini 
>> and 
>> have a much more comfortable and pleasant ride.  The Roadini is probably 
>> better (for me) than the Roadeo because it accommodates wider tires. If 
>> I 
>> were considering a current production bike, then that might be my choice 
>> as 
>> it balances speed and comfort.
>>
>> I can't remember if the Roadini has braze-ons for a front rack, but I 
>> had no problem with a Mark's rack and p-clamps on my Ram and didn't have 
>> any handling issues (I shared weight with a saddlebag, so it wasn't 
>> "front 
>> loaded").  Many people ride with a handlebar bag (without rack) for food 
>> and use a saddlebag for everything else.  It is nice to stuff layers 
>> into 
>> the front rack "rando" bag without having to stop, but (obviously) it is 
>> not necessary.
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Toshi
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell paint color repetition: Your thoughts

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Eric,
I seem to recall being attracted to the "Butterscotch" Saluki (?) way back 
when. Though I'm not sure I ever saw one in the wild. I do like the 
metallics being used now, at least what I see online. Like the new light 
metallic yellow on the Homer (or Sam's?). Hard to keep up.
I must say though, when it came time to purchase a new Sam for a dedicated 
touring bike back in 2015 or so, i opted for Black & Cream like yours. I 
knew how a touring bike could take a beating. And despite being a fine 
artist who has a huge stash of model car paints to mix almost exact colors, 
given enough time, I have never been stumped worse than trying to touch up 
my first early model  metallic orange Sam. I think it was a two-stage paint 
(transparent orange over metallic gold?). That proved impossible for me to 
match to my liking.
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 4:39:48 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello friends — I've noticed that over the past few years Rivendell have 
> been using some of the same paint colors on many frames through several 
> production runs. If there's been a discussion of this practice, I've missed 
> it. 
>
> I can't quite put my finger on it but something about the same paint 
> appearing on frames over and over leaves me scratching my head. Perhaps 
> there's a missed opportunity to pin a color to a model or to cycle in new 
> colors with new batches of frames? 
>
> What do other members think? Do you appreciate the same colors appearing 
> on different frames? Do you wish there was a wider variety of colors? Does 
> it matter at all? 
>
> Some of these colors I like quite a lot, others I appreciate. There isn't 
> one that I dislike. The Lime Olive is always striking when it appears on a 
> new frame, love it on the Hillbornes and Clems. 
>
> The harvest gold, wow, looks killer on those Susies. Blew my mind on the 
> Homers because they've always been a blue bike. 
>
> I do miss the mustard from the older Appaloosas and the dark bronze that 
> appeared on some Clems. These two colors paired with some of the newer 
> colors currently in use demonstrate, I think, that Riv has some of the best 
> paint colors in the biz. Really lovely stuff. 
>
> Here's a far-from-complete list more or less off the top of my head of 
> where current production colors have appeared:
>
> *Lime-olive*
> Platypus
> Susie
> Hillborne
> Clem
>
> *Mermaid*
> Appaloosa 
> Platypus
> Roadini
> Gus
>
> *Harvest/Dark Gold*
> Hillborne
> Homer
> Susie 
>
> *Ana Purple*
> Rosco Plat
> Appaloosa (next batch in 2023?)
> Road Uno or Gallop? (I can't remember but thought the purple was slated 
> for one of these frames) 
>
> *RBW Orange*
> Appaloosa
> Roadini
> Gus
>
> *RBW Blue*
> Too many to list?
> Appaloosa
> Clem
> Hillborne
>
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[RBW] Re: Sharing your winter ride photos northern hemisphere Spring 2023

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Erl, that Hunq looks like it means business! Very nice. Beautiful photos 
too.
I've watched you try a number of Rivendells over time, but this one looks 
like a keeper.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 8:44:48 AM UTC-4 WETH wrote:

> In celebration of National Parks week here in the United States, I rode my 
> Hunq along the C Canal on Monday.  
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 2:42:18 PM UTC-4 larson@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Spring is slow to arrive in southwestern Wisconsin this year, and miles 
>> have been earned. Cold winds and snow squalls alternating with sun seem to 
>> be the norm, even more so than usual. The woods is starting to green and 
>> the bloodroot blooming, so warmer days are coming!
>> Randy
>> "Spring hopes eternal"
>> [image: Appaloosa 042523RBF.jpg]
>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 11:07:22 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My brother-in-law has been visiting his elderly father for three weeks 
>>> and needed to stretch his legs. We did a 42-miles mixed surface country 
>>> ride rambling around on our Homers through upper Cumberland county, Va. on 
>>> a bright, cool, beautiful day. Life is good on a bike!
>>> *https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720307788075 
>>> *
>>> Paul Germain
>>> Midlothian, Virginia, where all the place names have English or Native 
>>> American origins.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Sharing your winter ride photos northern hemisphere Spring 2023

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My brother-in-law has been visiting his elderly father for three weeks and 
needed to stretch his legs. We did a 42-miles mixed surface country ride 
rambling around on our Homers through upper Cumberland county, Va. on a 
bright, cool, beautiful day. Life is good on a bike!
*https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720307788075*
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American origins.

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[RBW] FS - Acorn Large Front Trunk Bag

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I posted this on the i-BOB list a couple weeks ago, but no takers there. I 
wish to repost it here and drop the price by $20:
A somewhat rare "limited edition" production run, black waxed canvas in 
very good condition. I have owned over a dozen Acorn bags and am a 
believer. Just a guess, but I suspect this model proved to be too costly to 
produce for very long.
170 mm tall x 300 mm long x 140 mm wide. Two zippered side pockets 
protected from the elements by the top flap. Six attachment rings. Internal 
molded plastic stiffeners in front, back, bottom and sides. I have added 
thin foam sheets inside which quiet things down nicely. Easily removed. 
A slight circular ghost image of a P. Williamson "Goathead" patch remains 
on the top flap. Also, a half-dozen small pin holes where small 
commemorative pins were installed.
$80 plus $17.10 for USPS Flat Rate Priority box shipping, CONUS. Or if you 
wish, I will check your zip to see if shipping can be lowered.
PayPal preferred but check is fine too.)  PM me with any questions.
Photos in sunlight and in shadow: 
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[RBW] FS - two Silca Vintage Impero frame pumps

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I had posted this a couple weeks ago on the i_BOB list but no takers. Allow 
me to try this group before going to the dreaded FB Buy/Sell or eBay.

A used Silca Impero frame pump in good condition. 60 cm / 56 cm range 
(probably what would be called a "medium"?)  White (cream). Campy head, a 
newly installed but unused leather washer. I will supply two sets of the 
"standard" blue rubber frame protectors for the Campy arms, but have found 
these do not last long with use and have long since replaced them with 
small clear plumbing tubing, which works better and is less ugly.
$48 plus shipping.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720306291870

A used Silca Impero frame pump in good condition. 48 cm / 44 cm range 
(probably termed size "small") Chrome (plastic). Silca head.
$35 plus shipping.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720306291700

PayPal or a check will do. Please PM me with questions.

Thanks,
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[RBW] FS - Acorn Large Front Trunk Bag

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I posted this on the i-BOB list a couple weeks ago, but no takers there. I 
wish to repost it here and drop the price by $20:
A somewhat rare "limited edition" production run, black waxed canvas in 
very good condition. I have owned over a dozen Acorn bags and am a 
believer. Just a guess, but I suspect this model proved to be too costly to 
produce for very long.
170 mm tall x 300 mm long x 140 mm wide. Two zippered side pockets 
protected from the elements by the top flap. Six attachment rings. Internal 
molded plastic stiffeners in front, back, bottom and sides. I have added 
thin foam sheets inside which quiet things down nicely. Easily removed. 
A slight circular ghost image of a P. Williamson "Goathead" patch remains 
on the top flap. Also, a half-dozen small pin holes where small 
commemorative pins were installed.
$80 plus $17.10 for USPS Flat Rate Priority box shipping, CONUS. Or if you 
wish, I will check your zip to see if shipping can be lowered.
PayPal preferred but check is fine too.)  PM me with any questions.
Photos in sunlight and in shadow: 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sharing Your Winter Ride Fotos 2023

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Russell, You are correct. I had a brain fart on the location of Tom 
Oswald's businesses (bicycle shop and frame building). And that's despite 
the fact my wife and I visited from Virginia over a decade ago to ride the 
nearby Pine Creek Trail across the state line in NY.
Tom is a very nice fellow. And yes, he has honed his craft well since 
learning it from Dale Brown (of Cycles de Oro in N.C.) when he worked at 
Cycles de Oro. My feeling is that custom steel bicycles remain a bargain, 
given the amount of time lavished on each. (That would apply to a custom 
Riv too of course.)
Good luck on you repair search. (If you are near Boston, isn't that still a 
hot bed of frame building?)
Paul Germain

On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 6:55:08 AM UTC-5 rus...@gmail.com wrote:

> Oswald is located in Mansfield PA not MA. I was hoping that he was in 
> Massachusetts as I need some frame repair/modification work done. Nice 
> Oswald bicycle by the way. Despite the fact that he does it part time, it 
> appears that he has  honed his craft. 
>
> Russell Duncan 
> Leverett MA USA
>
> On Feb 27, 2023, at 22:48, Takashi  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Couple of photos from last Friday's ride.
> Sorry that the bike isn't Riv, I was riding Moulton with Sackville and 
> Nigel Smythe bags which I bought from Riv.
>
> [image: DSC02888.jpg]
>
> [image: DSC02891.jpg]
>
> Hardly any snow left on road, but wind was very chilly.
>
> Takashi
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sharing Your Winter Ride Fotos 2023

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Hey Eric, I recognize that place from a bike trip in 2016! Cool backdrop! 
Fast and less fast.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/24067030171/in/album-72157662986712831/

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 11:48:05 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Definitely all balm'd up over here in Virginia. In the 80s on Thursday, 
> high 50s on Friday. Cold this weekend which I was actually grateful for 
> because it's just been too weirdly warm. Cold on my ride this morning but 
> evidently warming to 60 and sunny this afternoon. 
>
> Here's one from Friday and a stop at the local airfield. 
>
> [image: IMG_5332.jpg]
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 2:29:30 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>
>> Russell,
>>
>> I'm sure you enjoyed the "balmy" temperature for your winter ride on 
>> Monday. From one Mercian owner to another, your Vincitore looks terrific! 
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 10:20 AM Russell Duncan  wrote:
>>
>>> [image: EFC94039-C235-4980-938B-C4C68D0CF0F9.jpeg]
>>> Out ‘n about here with no snow to speak of in the Connecticut River 
>>> Valley of western Massachusetts, where it was 57 degrees on Monday, George 
>>> Washington’s Birthday, with maple syrup flowing. I don’t yet own a 
>>> Rivendell but I’ve got a few British bikes that probably ride that way, 
>>> like my 1996 Mercian Vincitore. 
>>>
>>> Russell Duncan
>>> Western Massachusetts USA 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 9:40:10 AM UTC-5 Stephanie A. wrote:
>>>
 No snow, no trees even, but this is what loading up on groceries before 
 the cold snap in the northeast a couple of weeks ago looked like:[image: 
 D4FE0A86-0253-4B41-A999-5D1A808662AE.jpeg]

 On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 1:50:44 AM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson 
 wrote:

> [image: D9539EDE-D92A-487B-BC9A-5F3B2DEA0A5A.jpeg][image: 
> 8E16EAF3-1E44-4606-B6F3-B482DA61E183.jpeg]
>
> Luke in SF
>
> On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 12:17:17 PM UTC-8 DavidP wrote:
>
>> Like Takashi, we've had a warm spell here and all my February rides 
>> have been spring like.
>>
>> Here's the Platypus out a few days ago:
>> [image: PXL_20230218_210402353-1800.jpg]
>>
>> And from yesterday, my doublespeed Volpe that is recently sporting 
>> Albatross bars:
>> [image: PXL_20230220_181318011-1800.jpg]
>>
>> Today we are back to winter as we got some snow overnight and have 
>> colder temps in the forecast for the next week or so.
>>
>> -Dave (near Boston)
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 2:26:13 PM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, it's officially still winter here in Dallas,TX. although 
>>> yesterday I met up with a friend at White Rock Lake in mid-70's breezy 
>>> temps and enjoyed a ride.
>>>
>>> I'm on my 1981 Austro Daimler Puch Vent Noir II and he's on his 
>>> about 3 year old Homer Hilson.
>>>
>>> It was a good day to be out and about.
>>>
>>> Paul in Dallas 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS - Cateye Lightly Used Wireless SOLD

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The Cateye Wireless is spoken for, pending payment.

Thanks all,
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 5:29:36 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> I posted this RD300W on the iBOB list a month ago, so forgive me. There 
> was little interest, so I have dropped the price to $25 + shipping.
>
> Images here:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720305720246
>
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[RBW] FS - Cateye Lightly Used Wireless Computer

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I posted this RD300W on the iBOB list a month ago, so forgive me. There was 
little interest, so I have dropped the price to $25 + shipping.

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Re: [RBW] Sharing Your Winter Ride Fotos 2023

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Ok, Prize Winner! 

Paul Germain 
Midlothian, Va,

On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 2:20:17 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> My wife and I typically spend our winters with our dogs and bikes on a 
> little barrier island south of Tampa Bay. This morning, I pedaled my Gus up 
> the beach to check out a sailboat that washed up over the weekend. Sorry 
> it’s not a “wintry” photo per se, but I thought it made for a nice Winter 
> bike memory…
> - Brian
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> On Feb 10, 2023, at 2:18 PM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I was in Davis, CA, yesterday, so I took the opportunity to head out to 
> the graffiti-covered Stevenson Creek Bridge with my ’97 Riv Road Standard. 
> Shot these on Kodak Tri-X with a Canon Snappy LX camera. The Baggins/Nitto 
> front bag combo arrived a little while ago from another list member. The 
> seat bag has been adorning a series of bikes since 2005, and has been 
> pretty much everywhere.
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
> --Eric Norris
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> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>
> On Feb 10, 2023, at 11:03 AM, John Rinker  wrote:
>
> A little different than my last 'Winter Ride' photo, but it's winter in 
> Baja Sur! 
> 
>
> On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 4:14:57 AM UTC-8 larson@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Takashi,
>> I’m sorry that I didn’t catch ‘spellcheck’ screwing up your name in my 
>> previous post. My apologies, and thanks again for the pictures of your part 
>> of the world.
>> Randy in WI
>>
>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 8:18:12 PM UTC-6 larson@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Takeshita,
>>> Really enjoy your pictures-beautiful landscapes in a part of the world I 
>>> am not familiar with and a good looking Hunqapillar. We had 6” or so of 
>>> snow today, so Appaloosa back inside for now. Keep posting those pictures!
>>> Randy in WI
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 6:13:50 PM UTC-6 Takashi wrote:
>>>
 Ted, I bet it's also beautiful there when leaves are green. Or in 
 autumn.

 Steve, looking at your photo it must have been a very nice day to ride, 
 but yes, I'd like to see how it's like when there is snow. Please keep 
 posting!

 Randy, that photo looks like milder climate compared to your first 
 photo in this thread. Great that you had a chance to ride your cool 
 Appaloosa.


 Here are some photos from last Saturday's ride:
 [image: DSC02789.jpg]

 [image: DSC02817.jpg]

 I rode at foothill of Mt. Ontake and visited Fueki-no-taki (Fueki 
 Waterfall).
 The waterfall is approachable only on foot, so no photo of the 
 waterfall and bike together.

 [image: DSC02808.jpg]

 [image: DSC02802.jpg]

 Water freezes and forms giant icicles.
 In the photo above you can see another visitor wearing a green jacket, 
 so you can see sizes of icicles.
 You can go behind the fall, and it's like this:
 [image: DSC02814.jpg]


 Takashi


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Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

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Eric,

Great sleuthing to find that 2008 blog post by Brandt. Wonderful stuff. I'm 
not used to seeing him with grey hair like that. 
By the way, am I crazy? Is that his chain hanging loosely between the FD 
and the RD? I guess if I had just ridden up all those switchbacks I might 
have finished by shifting into the wrong gears too. (Though he does not 
look winded like I would be, ha.)

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 12:21:11 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Interesting discussion topic, Andrew. I picture Jobst today on a bike very 
> similar to what he ran most of his life. Steel frame, no racks, rim brakes. 
> Maybe a frame that would accommodate wider tires. 
>
> Here's a picture of Jobst from his last Alpine tour in 2008 (read more 
> here 
> 
> ). 
>
> [image: xnemj6.jpg]
>
> I'm not sure what make of frames he was riding in this era. But after 50 
> years of touring thousands of miles every summer in Italy, Switzerland and 
> France (in addition to the long rides in California) I can't see him 
> switching up and running racks or a rando build. He was famously ornery and 
> I think he had his system right where he wanted it. He'd tour with a 
> Carradice and stayed in hotels along the way (many with friends and 
> families he'd met in the 1950s). 
>
> As for frame material, this is of course a guess, but I'd wager he'd stick 
> with steel. He rode well into the carbon era. As Tom shared in the Radavist 
> article today Brandt would get a new frame every few years, worried about 
> damage or fractures. He chose yellow paint for his bikes because he thought 
> it was the best for highlighting damage. I could see his familiarity with 
> steel keeping him on steel frames. And I could see the possibility of 
> catastrophic failure keeping him from carbon. 
>
> Regarding helmets, I don't think Brandt ever wore one. He probably shared 
> an explanation for this back on rec.bicycles.tech but that's way before my 
> time. 
>
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:55:43 AM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>
>> True.  I remember those days.  The most you see in one or two of those 
>> photos are riders wearing "leather hair nets," except for one who looks 
>> like he has a mountaineering helmet.  Another thing I notice is much 
>> shorter cycling shorts, probably all wool with a natural chamois crotch.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 10:31:48 AM UTC-6 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>>> Those pictures were taken before helmets were commonly available. During 
>>> Bikecentennial helmets were rare. Steve
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 4:20 PM lconley  wrote:
>>>
 One thing I notice in those photos is that no one was wearing a helmet.

 Laing

 On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 10:49:25 AM UTC-5 andyree...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I'm in the process of building a JB-inspired road bike but with a nod 
> to current bicycle trends: mainly wider tires and spinnier gearing. As a 
> result, it's made me wonder what he would be riding today if you spliced 
> his timeline and moved his prime days to current day. 
>
> Today's Radavist 
> 
>  article 
> really fueled that question so I'd like to open it up to this group who 
> likely have much more insight into the man and his bike(s). 
>
> What are we thinking? Rim brakes or disc? Carbon? Steel? Ti? I see a 
> lot of similarities between him and Jan Heine as far as a desire for 
> performance and reliability, so perhaps he'd lean towards a rando build?  
>
> Take it away if you wish, 
> Andrew
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[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Eric,
I finally got to view your superb YouTube video - wonderfully relaxing! (As 
well as informative, of course.)
I loved all the attention you put into the headbadge, too. You may already 
know, but a gal in Philly, Jen Green, does custom head badges and does a 
great job. (She works in bronze too, but maybe not brass.)  
Revolution Cycle 
Jewelry: https://www.headbadges.com/store/c2/Headbadges.html
I had her make a Bontrager badge a few years ago for my CX bike that I had 
Keith Bontrager build for me in 1989. 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/48051561606/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/7215770445842
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:06:27 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>
> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I have 
> a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>
> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>
> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but for 
> the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame over to 
> Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the fork and seat 
> stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss to the 
> downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>
> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>
> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications of 
> patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and wax. 
>
> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>
> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque Phelan. 
> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x Nitto 
> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>
> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>
> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
> which I shaped and finished. 
>
> [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]
>
> Velocity Atlas 26" wheelset with a Kasai dynamo hub up front and an XTR 
> M900 in the rear. Front wheel by Rich at Rivendell, rear built by Andre at 
> my local bike shop. I'm running Rene Herse extra-light tires with a Rat 
> Trap Pass in the back and a Humptulips Ridge in front. 
>
> Many thanks to members here for helping out with parts when I needed them: 
> Trevor B., Dave H., Liz S. and Patrick M. 
>
> • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
> • Rene Herse Antelope Hill, extra light
> • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass, extra light
> • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
> • Kasai 32H front hub
> • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
> • Busch + Müller light mount
> • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
> • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white
> • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
> • Suntour Superbe levers
> • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
> • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
> • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
> • Dia Compe yoke hangers
> • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
> • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp 
> • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset 
> • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm 
> • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket 
> • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
> • MKS XC-III pedals
> • Suntour AR front derailer
> • Shimano XTR MD-952 rear derailer 
> • Suntour XC Pro seat post 
> • Brooks Conquest saddle
> • Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules
> • Sim Works x Nissen brass cable ferrules
> • Sim Works x Nissen brake and shift housing 
> • Sim Works x Hoshi
> • M5 brass socket head screws
> • Shovel Research M5 brass slotted screws
>
> Larger pictures here: 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_gXuRvwsKYVjG7GLMqFf2KGhPrYRNlp3/view?usp=sharing
>
> Thanks for lookin'! 
>

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[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Fantastic Eric. Congrats, nicely done.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:06:27 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>
> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I have 
> a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>
> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>
> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but for 
> the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame over to 
> Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the fork and seat 
> stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss to the 
> downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>
> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>
> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications of 
> patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and wax. 
>
> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>
> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque Phelan. 
> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x Nitto 
> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>
> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>
> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
> which I shaped and finished. 
>
> [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]
>
> Velocity Atlas 26" wheelset with a Kasai dynamo hub up front and an XTR 
> M900 in the rear. Front wheel by Rich at Rivendell, rear built by Andre at 
> my local bike shop. I'm running Rene Herse extra-light tires with a Rat 
> Trap Pass in the back and a Humptulips Ridge in front. 
>
> Many thanks to members here for helping out with parts when I needed them: 
> Trevor B., Dave H., Liz S. and Patrick M. 
>
> • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
> • Rene Herse Antelope Hill, extra light
> • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass, extra light
> • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
> • Kasai 32H front hub
> • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
> • Busch + Müller light mount
> • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
> • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white
> • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
> • Suntour Superbe levers
> • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
> • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
> • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
> • Dia Compe yoke hangers
> • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
> • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp 
> • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset 
> • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm 
> • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket 
> • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
> • MKS XC-III pedals
> • Suntour AR front derailer
> • Shimano XTR MD-952 rear derailer 
> • Suntour XC Pro seat post 
> • Brooks Conquest saddle
> • Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules
> • Sim Works x Nissen brass cable ferrules
> • Sim Works x Nissen brake and shift housing 
> • Sim Works x Hoshi
> • M5 brass socket head screws
> • Shovel Research M5 brass slotted screws
>
> Larger pictures here: 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_gXuRvwsKYVjG7GLMqFf2KGhPrYRNlp3/view?usp=sharing
>
> Thanks for lookin'! 
>

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[RBW] Re: Bags like the Grabsack?

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Michael, ditto on the Acorn Basket Bag. While I use a Swift Sugarloaf 
myself, I have a buddy who has an Acorn basket bag and loves it. (Somewhat 
smaller than my Sugarloaf, I think.) 
I am a long-time fan of Acorn and their business model - American cottage 
industry and pure perfection on their workmanship. I have had a dozen over 
the years. Nine in rotation currently, since I move some larger bags to 
storage for summer, when I will bring out smaller bags. All but my mountain 
bikes typically carry a front and a back bag.
BTW, I think they are currently phasing out their X-Pac material bags in 
favor of their original waxed cotton. What's left of the X-Pac bags went on 
sale and are priced to sell, including the basket bag. If you want one 
better jump on it.
While many good bag makers have surfaced since they began production, these 
bags are a bargain, considering the quality. If memory serves me, back then 
only Carradice could match - and that company lacked models like front 
bags, since I suppose the English are hardheaded about their saddlebags, 
ha. (I have owned many of those myself.)
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 5:12:54 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Hi all, wondering if anyone has any recommendations for bags like the Riv 
> Grabsack from small-ish makers (i.e. not Timbuk2)? I'm looking for 
> something like the Grabsack in size/function but with a better strap and 
> open/close function.
>
> Now with winter here, I need more space for gloves, hat, etc. than my 
> little Swift hipbag can accommodate.
>
> Thanks all!
> Mike in Minneapolis
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[RBW] Re: 22 for 2022

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Drew, thanks for the complement on the photos. 
As to the basket light mount, I've had two of these for so many years, I 
cannot recall their origin. They were designed to mount to a frame or fork 
tube and I adapted them easily for the basket. They aren't as substantial 
as the current mounts made to attach at a frame fitting (like Paul & PDW, 
etc.). So, at first I wasn't sure if they would be trustworthy. They have 
proved to be fine and I'm sure I did not pay much at the time. Your search 
may prove to be more fruitful than mine.
I looked at the strap on the basket side and one says, "CRONOMETTI" the 
other, made to fit a different tube size, says, "ISSIMO," so your guess is 
as good as my own. It is very likely I got word of this from one of these 
forums.
Just out: PDW has a newly designed basket mount called the "Outpost Mount," 
made of metal (steel?) so a little on the heavy side but looks substantial 
enough to be able to survive the bike falling over without any damage to 
the light mount. 
I'm headed out for an overnighter on Wednesday and hope to try it out:
https://ridepdw.com/products/outpost-mount-light-mount-for-wire-baskets?_pos=1&_sid=4d2525153&_ss=r

On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 11:50:30 AM UTC-5 Drew Saunders wrote:

> Paul,
>
> May I ask what you're using to attach lights to the side of your basket? I 
> made a "fake short handlebar" from an old broomstick and a long bolt to get 
> a light out in front of my fender, but it doesn't work with newer lights, 
> and I like your "tiny fake handlebar attached to the side of the basket" 
> better.
>
> Thanks, and great pics, by the way!
>
> Drew
>
> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 2:35:07 PM UTC-8 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
>> *(I've posted this on the i-BOB list too, so forgive me):*
>> My favorite 22 bike related images for 2022. (Oops, as hard as I tried, 2 
>> dozen was as close as I could get, so I cheated):
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720305087997
>> The hardest part was to keep it fairly strictly bike related and 
>> bike-trip related. Both of my Rivendells are a major part of the album, but 
>> a few others are in the mix.
>> What's yours?
>> Paul Germain
>> Midlothian, Va.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 22 for 2022

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Dave,
Thanks! What fun to see them all together as in a poster*!  *Enjoy that 
Platypus.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 9:34:46 PM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:

> Great idea for a thread, Paul - I'm looking forward to seeing all the 
> photos!
>
> Here's a snapshot of my 22 all in one image - you can click on the 
> attachment for the full size version. 
> You can see that the Platypus was a great inspiration to ride and take 
> photos as it is in fully half of them even though I've only been riding it 
> since November.
>
> -Dave (near Boston)
>
> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 5:35:07 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
>> *(I've posted this on the i-BOB list too, so forgive me):*
>> My favorite 22 bike related images for 2022. (Oops, as hard as I tried, 2 
>> dozen was as close as I could get, so I cheated):
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720305087997
>> The hardest part was to keep it fairly strictly bike related and 
>> bike-trip related. Both of my Rivendells are a major part of the album, but 
>> a few others are in the mix.
>> What's yours?
>> Paul Germain
>> Midlothian, Va.
>>
>

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[RBW] 22 for 2022

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*(I've posted this on the i-BOB list too, so forgive me):*
My favorite 22 bike related images for 2022. (Oops, as hard as I tried, 2 
dozen was as close as I could get, so I cheated):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720305087997
The hardest part was to keep it fairly strictly bike related and bike-trip 
related. Both of my Rivendells are a major part of the album, but a few 
others are in the mix.
What's yours?
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

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[RBW] Re: Sharing Your Winter Ride Fotos 2023

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Takashi,
To answer your question about snow in Virginia, generally we get less than 
we used to. (No surprise there.) Eric is less than 100 miles north of me, 
but we are both in Eastern/Central Virginia, more or less. The farther west 
in the state, the higher the elevation and that portion gets snow more 
often. Though, most of our area gets snow heavy enough to send snow plows 
out fewer than 2-3 times a year, generally.
Often, the snow is just deep enough to ride comfortably when fresh without 
a fat bike. I haven't done this trick since these photos in 2010, but for 
some dumb fun (and a workout) I went up to the local high school's football 
field and rode around the field in concentric circles (ellipses, I guess) 
on my single speed bike. The total mileage was nearly 10 miles!   
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/5269889850/in/album-72157625619897864/
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 8:33:54 AM UTC-5 Takashi wrote:

> So many great images!
>
> Brian,
> Spectacular view, and oh, those clouds pattern in the sky!
> And your Sam is so cool; to my eyes it's perfect.
>
> Paul,
> Thank you, I'm glad to know that you enjoy my photos.
> Looks like Virginia is a very beautiful place, I can almost feel crisp air 
> and sweet smell of dry trees.
>
> Leah,
> Wow, blizzard to green in one week?
> It gave you a chance to ride your beautiful Platypus, so it was a good 
> thing, I believe.
> Please post more photos!
>
> Eric,
> Was it dawn or evening? Either case, beautiful photo, as always. Looks 
> like you had a very nice New Year's Day!
> Paul's and Eric's photos make me wonder - doesn't Virginia have much 
> snowfall?
>
>
> Takashi
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's Good - Wide-ish/flared drops edition...

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Philip,

Thanks for the comment on the Bontrager CX. Yes, I did find one other filet 
brazed Bonty CX online. Not something Keith was prone to do. A very 
practical guy, who believed in a useful, long-lived frame. (Thus the 
gussets he would sometimes use in his MTB bikes.) 
I do imagine he had never gotten a request for a frame with nickel-plated 
or chromed stays and fork blades though! This bike has served me well over 
the years, sometimes as the original 3x7; sometimes as my single speed; 
currently as a 1x7 - before 1x drivetrains were much of a "thing". (I stole 
the idea from actual CX racers, though I never raced CX.)
And yes, today I would never butcher any handlebars li that. It was done 
out of pure naiveté. Getting to see what others were doing back then was 
difficult. Not like today with the Internet. 
What put it into my head in the first place was a 1987 article in Mountain 
Bike Action magazine:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/48063895973/in/album-72157709086228276/
Once it was in my head, I could never get it out! Looking at it today, it 
seems like "underbiking" but CX was limited to 32 mm tires, after all. All 
this was before Grant and his "country bike" evangelization, which may not 
have been ground-breaking but was certainly influential. 

On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 1:09:26 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson wrote:

> Wow, that CX bike is incredible. Did you ever hear from anyone else with a 
> fillet-brazed Bontrager cyclocross bike? 
>
> To stay on topic - cutting the sweep ends off flared drops is inadvisable, 
> and the Portola bars are very similar to the RM-3s, Midge, and original 
> WTB. 
>
> I had a LeMond for a while with Portola bars. that was stolen. 
>
> Here’s a $20 Midge bar in SF: 
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-on-one-midge-bar/7560429801.html
>
> Philip
> Sonoma County, Calif
>
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 8:12 AM 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Drew, Philip & others, 
>> While this is not a Rivendell, the bike does sport the Soma Portolas in 
>> this discussion. They are on a Bontrager CX that I commissioned from Keith 
>> Bontrager in 1989:
>>
>> https://flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/7215770445842/with/33876168088/
>> Ironically, when I built it up, used the original WTB Dirt Drops - also a 
>> part of this discussion - with a custom filet brazed stem by Steve Potts. 
>> (I'm covering all the bases here!)
>> http://www.cyclofiend.com/cx/2010/cx057-paulgermain0410.html
>> Being an east coaster, my only experience with the bars (and bar end 
>> shifters)  was a short ride on Jacquie Phelan's Cunningham Indian while she 
>> was in Massachusetts for the first Ross Stage Race in 1986 -1987. That's 
>> why the bars are truncated like that. I had figured on some tight trail 
>> rides for the bike, but I wound up using it more for fire roads. (I 
>> regretted cutting them, so did an update on some of the components a few 
>> years ago.)
>> Essentially, the shallow drops make them more accessible for doing 
>> shorter, more demanding riding than road stuff, in my opinion.
>> Paul Germain
>> Midlothian, Va.
>>
>> On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 1:52:04 PM UTC-5 Drew Saunders wrote:
>>
>>> Steve Potts has reintroduced a new version of the original WTB dirt 
>>> drop, which Soma is selling: 
>>>
>>> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/steve-potts-original-dirt-drop-bar-31-8-60cm-5910
>>>
>>> I have the real original WTB bars, bought in 1999, on my Ibis Mojo, and 
>>> I would definitely get these new ones if I had the space for another bike.
>>>
>>> Drew
>>> On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 9:29:59 AM UTC-8 wboe...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Check out WhatBars <https://whatbars.com/> to compare profiles for 
>>>> many of the offerings out there.  As I recall, the Portola is a similar 
>>>> profile to the Ritcheys I like, except I needed 31.8 instead of 26.
>>>>
>>>> Will
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 10:34 AM Pancake  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Soma Portola - https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/portola-bar
>>>>> 56cm wide at the flared ends but 45.5cm on the hoods
>>>>> Meets your 26mm diameter requirement.
>>>>>
>>>>> That’s where I landed when I was looking for a similar change (wider, 
>>>>> more flared noodle, less drop, less reach). They’ve been great. Though 
>>>>> like 
>>>>> another poster, I just swapped th

Re: [RBW] Re: What's Good - Wide-ish/flared drops edition...

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Drew, Philip & others, 
While this is not a Rivendell, the bike does sport the Soma Portolas in 
this discussion. They are on a Bontrager CX that I commissioned from Keith 
Bontrager in 1989:
https://flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/7215770445842/with/33876168088/
Ironically, when I built it up, used the original WTB Dirt Drops - also a 
part of this discussion - with a custom filet brazed stem by Steve Potts. 
(I'm covering all the bases here!)
http://www.cyclofiend.com/cx/2010/cx057-paulgermain0410.html
Being an east coaster, my only experience with the bars (and bar end 
shifters)  was a short ride on Jacquie Phelan's Cunningham Indian while she 
was in Massachusetts for the first Ross Stage Race in 1986 -1987. That's 
why the bars are truncated like that. I had figured on some tight trail 
rides for the bike, but I wound up using it more for fire roads. (I 
regretted cutting them, so did an update on some of the components a few 
years ago.)
Essentially, the shallow drops make them more accessible for doing shorter, 
more demanding riding than road stuff, in my opinion.
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 1:52:04 PM UTC-5 Drew Saunders wrote:

> Steve Potts has reintroduced a new version of the original WTB dirt drop, 
> which Soma is selling: 
>
> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/steve-potts-original-dirt-drop-bar-31-8-60cm-5910
>
> I have the real original WTB bars, bought in 1999, on my Ibis Mojo, and I 
> would definitely get these new ones if I had the space for another bike.
>
> Drew
> On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 9:29:59 AM UTC-8 wboe...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Check out WhatBars  to compare profiles for many 
>> of the offerings out there.  As I recall, the Portola is a similar profile 
>> to the Ritcheys I like, except I needed 31.8 instead of 26.
>>
>> Will
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 10:34 AM Pancake  wrote:
>>
>>> Soma Portola - https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/portola-bar
>>> 56cm wide at the flared ends but 45.5cm on the hoods
>>> Meets your 26mm diameter requirement.
>>>
>>> That’s where I landed when I was looking for a similar change (wider, 
>>> more flared noodle, less drop, less reach). They’ve been great. Though like 
>>> another poster, I just swapped them for Albatross bars (though upside down 
>>> and with bar ends mounted in the middle so I get a hood like position). 
>>> I’ve tried RM-013 and noodles, the the Portola was the best so far. I’m 
>>> also curious about the 600mm Towel Rack but haven’t tried it. 
>>>
>>> Description from soma:
>>> This bar is similar to our June Bug dirt drop bar, except it uses a 
>>> 26.0mm center and comes in a narrower width. Nice option to try for 
>>> adventure touring, trail riding or commuting. 112mm drop. 65mm reach. Grips 
>>> have a slight flare. Width at lever mounting area: 41cm (53cm size), 45.5cm 
>>> (56cm size) approx.  - Polished 6061 T6 aluminum - 53 and 56cm widths 
>>> (measured center to center at bar ends) - 26.0mm center 
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 6:36:15 AM UTC-8 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hey everyone!
 I posted earlier about reach in converting to a wider bar and decided 
 to start a different conversation to get opinions on wide-ish, flared 
 drops.

 I like the Nitto Noodle quite well, but I think I do want a little 
 flare and I don't want to bend them myself. So what's good out there? I'm 
 tempted by the Crust Towel Rack, but I'd love to hear what you all like.

 If it helps/matters, the kind of riding I do with the bike it's going 
 is casual rails-to-trails, some rolling gravel roads, but nothing too 
 technical or serious.

 Thanks!
 Ben

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[RBW] Hillborne / Hilsen: touring capable?

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In my estimation, my 2015 Sam Hillborne is pretty nearly the perfect 
touring bike for overnighters or multi-day rail trail trips. I have a 
Hilsen which is a bit more lively and a really nice mixed-surface riding 
bike. (Yes, I am spoiled.)
I realize this topic has likely come up before:
Every once in a while, I wonder if the Hilsen would work for touring, but I 
tried a sport tourer for loaded trips once. It was too whippy, especially 
in the mountains. 
It's a rhetorical question for now, but at 76, I will eventually have to 
thin the herd. I'm happy with a dedicated bike for each purpose.
My Hillborne on the Greenbrier River Trail, WVa. in Oct.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/52435098025/in/album-72177720302972379/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/52435097390/in/album-72177720302972379/
The Hilsen:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/51845027385/in/album-72177720296237851/
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Midlothian, VA

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[RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

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Eric, like many others who replied to your inquiry, I also land between 35 
mm - 38 mm on my two Rivs. Admittedly, they both are used on mixed surface 
rides, not exclusively on pavement. The 57 cm Homer Hilsen is mostly a fast 
country bike, taking in fire roads with paved connections. The 55 cm Sam 
Hillborne is my dedicated touring rig. 
Some years ago, I fell in love with the lightweight, comfy and  supple - 
combined with a thin puncture resistant layer - of the now-discontinued 
Vittoria Voyager Hyper. I bought a stash that is still lasting me. 
I use the 38 mm on the Hilsen and the 35 mm on the Hillborne, both with VO 
fenders. Inflation figures vary but I  find my 165 lb. body feels best 
around 35-38 psi on the 700c wheels and my mind would be a bit ill at ease 
with much less.
I must say, while I love the black & cream on my own Hillborne, yours looks 
much like a dapper fellow out on the town!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/52122315564/in/album-72177720299529947/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/51845031765/in/album-72177720296237851/

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Midlothian, Va.



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[RBW] FS - NOS Shimano M732 7-speed shifter set

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Folks, Since this has equal relevance to the i-BOB list, I plan to post it 
there too. (Forgive that please.) Never used 7-speed thumb shifter set with 
cables, housing, bottom bracket cable guide, plus related cable ends, etc. 
All in the original packaging, albeit a little yellowed with age. 5-6-7 
compatible with a "push" 8th click.
In the early 1990's when Shimano introduced the "new" trigger shifters, I 
stashed these away but eventually landed on 9-speed SRAM Twist Grips which 
I use for mountain biking today. 
It's a bit hard for me to justify continuing to hold on to these. I do have 
one 7-speed bike, but it's a Bontrager CX converted to 1x7 years ago with 
drops and a bar end shifter. When I went to the Internet to see what folks 
were asking for these end-of-the-line Shimano thumbies, what I found was 
used and scratched shifters (only) going for $54 to $150 on eBay. Mine 
still have the original plastic covering on the faceplates.
Bike Recyclery had a set of NOS thumb shifters (only) for $175.
I'd love to avoid the craziness of the auction house but hesitate to 
embarrass myself by asking too much from this group. I'm going to ask $175, 
plus shipping for the set. 
My guess is that the cost of shipping could be cut considerably by shipping 
all in a Flat Rate box without the oversized original packaging and willing 
to investigate that.
Photos 
here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720300890751
PayPal preferred, PM me with any questions please.
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS- 2 pair Paul Touring Cantis, used. $190 +shipping

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My extreme apologies to all on this forum for allowing my private messages 
to bleed over into the general traffic. It won't happen again. 
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 1:13:58 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Thanks John. 
>
> Paul
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Moore 
> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Jul 25, 2022 1:11 pm
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: FS- 2 pair Paul Touring Cantis, used. $190 +shipping
>
> Sorry Paul to space out on shipping costs. Will take care of today. 
>
> John
>
> On Jul 25, 2022, at 1:05 PM, 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>  
> John, 
>
> I have the brakes packaged and ready for the P.O. and can do that today if 
> you wish. But, your PayPal payment did not include the shipping as 
> mentioned in the title and body of my post. Sorry for any inconvenience, 
> but could you add the $9.45 Priority Flat Rate charge in a separate 
> transaction? (I assume that is easiest for you.)
>
> I did not want to ship the package without checking that you're OK with 
> that.
>
> Regards,
> Paul Germain
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Moore 
> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sat, Jul 23, 2022 11:32 pm
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: FS- 2 pair Paul Touring Cantis, used. $190 +shipping
>
> Will take care of tomorrow Paul.  
> Thanks. 
>
> John 
>
> On Jul 23, 2022, at 9:25 PM, 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Brakes are spoken for. Thanks all. 
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 3:57:56 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
> (Please forgive the double-post on the other list serve.) 
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720300757861/with/52236469259/
>  
> 2 pair brakes w/straddle cables, new pads, new (DiaCompe) straddle cable 
> carriers. Some minor wrench marks on flats. Otherwise in very good 
> condition with no internal wear. 
> I can ship USPS in a Small Flat Rate box for $9.45.  PayPal preferred. 
> Please respond via PM.
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[RBW] Re: FS- 2 pair Paul Touring Cantis, used. $190 +shipping

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Brakes are spoken for. Thanks all.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 3:57:56 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> (Please forgive the double-post on the other list serve.)
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720300757861/with/52236469259/
> 2 pair brakes w/straddle cables, new pads, new (DiaCompe) straddle cable 
> carriers. Some minor wrench marks on flats. Otherwise in very good 
> condition with no internal wear.
> I can ship USPS in a Small Flat Rate box for $9.45.  PayPal preferred. 
> Please respond via PM.
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[RBW] FS- 2 pair Paul Touring Cantis, used. $190 +shipping

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(Please forgive the double-post on the other list serve.)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720300757861/with/52236469259/
2 pair brakes w/straddle cables, new pads, new (DiaCompe) straddle cable 
carriers. Some minor wrench marks on flats. Otherwise in very good 
condition with no internal wear.
I can ship USPS in a Small Flat Rate box for $9.45.  PayPal preferred. 
Please respond via PM.

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[RBW] Re: FS - Used cockpit parts plus one pair shoes

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Just to update my FS list, the following items have been sold:

Nitto / Grand Bois Randonneur Handlebar.

TRP RL950 Carbon CX top brake levers.

DiaCompe BL-07 Aero Brake Levers.

Many thanks all,
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 7:15:04 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> I'd like to put these used cockpit parts (and one pair of shoes) up for 
> your consideration. (Please excuse the double-post on another list.) Each 
> is a separate Flickr album. All items are used and condition is stated 
> below. Do not hesitate to contact me if you have questions. I can forward 
> shipping costs based on destination. (CONUS only, please.)Thanks,
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> Nitto Grand Randonneur 135 handlebar, used, like new. $50, plus shipping.
> 25.4 mm clamp size. (Will work for 26 mm with shims.) 45 cm measured at 
> drop ends; 37 cm at ramps, (C-to-C). Slight flare outward at drop ends. 
> Heat treated aluminum. Current Ben's Cycles internet price, $95, plus 
> shipping and tax.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720295841319
>
> Nitto-made Grand Bois Randonneur handlebar, used, like new. $60, plus 
> shipping.
> 25.4 mm clamp size (26 mm will work with shims). 41 cm width, measured at 
> drop ends, 38 cm at ramps, (C-to-C). Slight flare outward at drop ends, 
> dramatic rise from clamp area. Current Rene Herse internet price, $129, 
> plus hipping and tax. Heat treated aluminum, Bright finish.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720295841994
>
> Soma Urban Cross top (interrupter) brake levers, used, like new. $20, plus 
> shipping.
> Silver, standard 24 mm clamp (for 25.4 / 26 mm drop bars). Nicest CX-style 
> levers around! No scratches or scuffs. Current Modern Bike internet price, 
> $45, plus shipping and tax.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720295843491
>
> TRP RL950 Carbon CX top brake levers. $25, plus shipping.
> CX-style (interrupter) levers, 24 mm clamp (for standard 25.4/26 mm bars) 
> 78 grams/pair. Very nice condition w/no scratches or scars.Universal Cycles 
> price $70, plus shipping and tax.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720296025642
>
> DiaCompe BL-07 Aero style Brake Levers, $18, plus shipping.
> Drop bar aero brake levers, silver w/black hoods. In good working 
> condition with normal wear and minor scuffs, except tear underneath right 
> hood. (see image). Current Universal Cycles price, $44, plus shipping and 
> tax.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720295842790
>
> Performance Forte' lugged mountain bike shoes. Size 44 / 10.5 -  $18, plus 
> shipping.
> In good condition with normal wear except for two of the metal cleats on 
> one shoes which need to be replaced. No charge for the Virginia dirt.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720295872145
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[RBW] FS - Used cockpit parts plus one pair shoes

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I'd like to put these used cockpit parts (and one pair of shoes) up for 
your consideration. (Please excuse the double-post on another list.) Each 
is a separate Flickr album. All items are used and condition is stated 
below. Do not hesitate to contact me if you have questions. I can forward 
shipping costs based on destination. (CONUS only, please.)Thanks,
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

Nitto Grand Randonneur 135 handlebar, used, like new. $50, plus shipping.
25.4 mm clamp size. (Will work for 26 mm with shims.) 45 cm measured at 
drop ends; 37 cm at ramps, (C-to-C). Slight flare outward at drop ends. 
Heat treated aluminum. Current Ben's Cycles internet price, $95, plus 
shipping and tax.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720295841319

Nitto-made Grand Bois Randonneur handlebar, used, like new. $60, plus 
shipping.
25.4 mm clamp size (26 mm will work with shims). 41 cm width, measured at 
drop ends, 38 cm at ramps, (C-to-C). Slight flare outward at drop ends, 
dramatic rise from clamp area. Current Rene Herse internet price, $129, 
plus hipping and tax. Heat treated aluminum, Bright finish.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720295841994

Soma Urban Cross top (interrupter) brake levers, used, like new. $20, plus 
shipping.
Silver, standard 24 mm clamp (for 25.4 / 26 mm drop bars). Nicest CX-style 
levers around! No scratches or scuffs. Current Modern Bike internet price, 
$45, plus shipping and tax.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720295843491

TRP RL950 Carbon CX top brake levers. $25, plus shipping.
CX-style (interrupter) levers, 24 mm clamp (for standard 25.4/26 mm bars) 
78 grams/pair. Very nice condition w/no scratches or scars.Universal Cycles 
price $70, plus shipping and tax.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720296025642

DiaCompe BL-07 Aero style Brake Levers, $18, plus shipping.
Drop bar aero brake levers, silver w/black hoods. In good working condition 
with normal wear and minor scuffs, except tear underneath right hood. (see 
image). Current Universal Cycles price, $44, plus shipping and tax.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720295842790

Performance Forte' lugged mountain bike shoes. Size 44 / 10.5 -  $18, plus 
shipping.
In good condition with normal wear except for two of the metal cleats on 
one shoes which need to be replaced. No charge for the Virginia dirt.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720295872145

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[RBW] Re: FS - Used Acorn medium saddle bag

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A buyer has expressed interest, so consider it sold. Many thanks.
Paul Germain
Midlothian, VA

On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 5:42:32 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> An Acorn medium saddle bag in discontinued light tan with darker brown 
> piping. This served my touring bike for some years before I decided to use 
> something more shallow that would not interfere with my rear rack when 
> loaded with the tent.
> This served me well and saw lots of weather conditions, but is tear-free 
> and scuff free. All leather is intact and in great shape. While it cleaned 
> up very well, you can see from the photos is slightly discolored from an 
> attempt to waterproof with wax and my penchant for adding patches and small 
> badges shows as darker spots when the remaining areas faded slightly, 
> something all the cotton Acorns do over time. (Can you say, "Beausage"?)
> I have had well over a dozen Acorn bags and can endorse them 100% for 
> quality and serviceability. (I have another medium in the current darker 
> brown on my SS bike.)
> You can view this bag on their web site, but specs are: 3.5L, 8"w x 6"h x 
> 10"d. It has a vertical drop of 6.5" from bag loops and is 13 oz.
>
> https://www.acornbags.com/collections/waxed-canvas-bags/products/medium-saddlebag?variant=1113866272
> Price is $44.50 (half current,) plus the USPS Small Box Flat Rate, $8.45 = 
> $52.95, by PayPal.
> Photos in my Flickr album:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157719214191904
> Thanks for looking,
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va. 
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[RBW] Re: My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip

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Andy and Kate,
Ditto on Dravo. A nice camp with plenty of room (and large bathroom, nicer 
than most). Check out the old graveyard and local history there.
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va
 
On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 12:00:03 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Andy,
> My thoughts exactly.  A hotel for 2 nights and explore the bike and brew 
> spots in the area.  I love the museums there as well.  
> Kate
>
> On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 7:24:06 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> if starting from Pittsburgh late, I'd really put a plug  for getting 
>> yourself a better go of the first day by getting a room at a hotel in 
>> downtown (some really cool boutique offerings these days: Distrikt, The 
>> Industrialist, etc.) and have a nice dinner before setting out. Hotels in 
>> Homestead too, food's a bit chain-oriented in the area and it's ten miles 
>> down the path. 
>>
>> If camping, the first place I'd recommend is the Dravo Campsite next to 
>> the cemetery on the Youghigheny River and is 40 miles from the Point.   It 
>> is not accessible to cars which is a good thing in my mind as you depart 
>> the urban western end of the GAP. Less formal than others a bit farther 
>> along but provides opportunity to set up camp as you are comfortable, given 
>> arrangement of other campers. 
>>
>> Here is a site on the lower portion, maybe 200 yards off the trail, 
>> closer to the river (right in the image):
>> [image: 31E8CA4F-AAD6-4219-A19A-42252B9A471D_1_105_c.jpeg]
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 7:50:16 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:
>>
>>> Kate 
>>>
>>> I believe the only direct PHL-PIT Amtrak train is the #43 Pennsylvanian 
>>> with dep/arr times of 1242 to 1959.   The Capitol Limited would be PHL to 
>>> DC on NE Regional, changing to the Capitol for DC to PIT.  They show 1445 
>>> dep PHL and 2358 PIT arrival.   Pittsburgh is roughly the mid point of the 
>>> DC to Chicago on the Capital.  Amtrak shows the Pennsylvanian allows 
>>> checked bicycle service meaning you need to box the bike.  The Capitol and 
>>> NE Regional trains 65, 66, 67 have carry on bicycle service which does not 
>>> require a box (Amtrak does a good business between Cumberland and DC/PIT 
>>> with the carry on for people riding the Western Maryland RR Trail).   
>>>
>>> The Pennsylvanian 2000 arrival would permit riding to the GAP in 
>>> McKeesport via the trails to Hot >> Mckeesport RR trail and beyond to a trail campsite, probably by .  Or 
>>> overnight in hotel in Pittsburgh or Homestead (on the trial).  The Capitol 
>>> 2358 arrival is challenging, although can head out to the trail via the 
>>> same route.
>>>
>>> John Hawrylak
>>> Woodstown NJ 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 12:37:39 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
 Hi Andy,
 Amtrak has limited trains and routes, don't remember the details a year 
 later.  I do know that there was no availability to travel along the 
 northeast corridor.  New Jersey Transit is the only way we can take bikes 
 on the train.  Just did a ride last weekend allowing us to access North 
 Jersey trails and ride out the coast. Philly to Pittsburgh had options.  
 Check Amtrak site for details.
 I am definitely going to the Philly Bike Expo this year.  Hey.I'll 
 probably be riding there and bring my brand spanking new Platypus up to 
 the 
 Riv booth for show and tell!!!
 Kate-Trenton, NJ

 On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 9:22:35 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:

> Do it Kate!
>
> Love the multi-mode (intermode if by train and bike?) travel to and 
> from a big multi day bike and camp. Does Amtrak have bike capacity other 
> than as luggage to/from Philadelphia? It'd be sweet if so. 
>
> Maybe I could pull together a carless plan for the Philly Bike Expo in 
> November from home. The RBW newsletter said they'll be going again. I 
> think 
> everyone's attention really surprised them and they realized that 
> appreciation 
> of their perspective isn't limited to the west coast, despite this 
> group and the calls they take from around the country. 
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
> On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 4:21:59 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for sharing your awesome pics of your ride.  My husband and I 
>> had planned on this ride last year but the world shut down.  Now it's 
>> not 
>> going to happen for me for a bit.  We had a car free trip planned from 
>> Trenton, NJ where we were going to take NJ transit to Philly with our 
>> bikes 
>> and then Amtrak from 30th street station out to Pittsburgh with our 
>> bikes 
>> to the start.  Bike and camp all the way to DC and then take the train 
>> back 
>> to Philly and on home to Trenton.  No car.  We will make it happen 
>> eventually.  Maybe with my new Platypus!!!
>> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>>
>> On Friday, 

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An Acorn medium saddle bag in discontinued light tan with darker brown 
piping. This served my touring bike for some years before I decided to use 
something more shallow that would not interfere with my rear rack when 
loaded with the tent.
This served me well and saw lots of weather conditions, but is tear-free 
and scuff free. All leather is intact and in great shape. While it cleaned 
up very well, you can see from the photos is slightly discolored from an 
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something all the cotton Acorns do over time. (Can you say, "Beausage"?)
I have had well over a dozen Acorn bags and can endorse them 100% for 
quality and serviceability. (I have another medium in the current darker 
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You can view this bag on their web site, but specs are: 3.5L, 8"w x 6"h x 
10"d. It has a vertical drop of 6.5" from bag loops and is 13 oz.
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Price is $44.50 (half current,) plus the USPS Small Box Flat Rate, $8.45 = 
$52.95, by PayPal.
Photos in my Flickr album:
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Thanks for looking,
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Midlothian, Va. 

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[RBW] Re: My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip

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Kate, I love your idea for transport to Pittsburgh from NJ. You are lucky 
to be able to roll on your bike with NJ Transit. I live in Richmond and all 
Amtrak south of DC offers only one train a day with a bike baggage car. It 
heads north to NYC on its way from Miami. I have to switch to another train 
at Union Station to head west, and the timing is not always good, 
especially when many trains run late. (This last one was 2 hours behind, so 
we set up our first camp 30 miles down on the C in the dark, not a big 
problem.) 
I suspect those westward Amtrak trains for bikes also are limited too, 
since we have occasionally Taken the train from Cumberland, Md. to do the 
GAP only and also had limited options.
Good luck!
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.
On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 12:37:39 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Hi Andy,
> Amtrak has limited trains and routes, don't remember the details a year 
> later.  I do know that there was no availability to travel along the 
> northeast corridor.  New Jersey Transit is the only way we can take bikes 
> on the train.  Just did a ride last weekend allowing us to access North 
> Jersey trails and ride out the coast. Philly to Pittsburgh had options.  
> Check Amtrak site for details.
> I am definitely going to the Philly Bike Expo this year.  Hey.I'll 
> probably be riding there and bring my brand spanking new Platypus up to the 
> Riv booth for show and tell!!!
> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>
> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 9:22:35 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> Do it Kate!
>>
>> Love the multi-mode (intermode if by train and bike?) travel to and from 
>> a big multi day bike and camp. Does Amtrak have bike capacity other than as 
>> luggage to/from Philadelphia? It'd be sweet if so. 
>>
>> Maybe I could pull together a carless plan for the Philly Bike Expo in 
>> November from home. The RBW newsletter said they'll be going again. I think 
>> everyone's attention really surprised them and they realized that 
>> appreciation 
>> of their perspective isn't limited to the west coast, despite this group 
>> and the calls they take from around the country. 
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>> On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 4:21:59 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for sharing your awesome pics of your ride.  My husband and I had 
>>> planned on this ride last year but the world shut down.  Now it's not going 
>>> to happen for me for a bit.  We had a car free trip planned from Trenton, 
>>> NJ where we were going to take NJ transit to Philly with our bikes and then 
>>> Amtrak from 30th street station out to Pittsburgh with our bikes to the 
>>> start.  Bike and camp all the way to DC and then take the train back to 
>>> Philly and on home to Trenton.  No car.  We will make it happen 
>>> eventually.  Maybe with my new Platypus!!!
>>> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 9:58:13 AM UTC-4 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 That's great advice Paul. Still finalizing all the details of our trip 
 and we were going to take the MARC out to Harpers Ferry and camp and bike 
 home one of these Fridays as a test run for mileage. 

 Pat

 On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 3:56:37 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Pat in DC, You are very likely younger than I am, (closing in on 75 
> years,) but my travel companion for this trip is also younger by a decade 
> and a much stronger rider than I. We both were glad we settled on 50 
> miles 
> a day and tried our best to schedule the camps accordingly. After more 
> than 
> a decade of doing rail trail multi-day trips, three things I have found 
> feels proper for me: 
> 1. A 5-minute break every 10 miles or so. Mainly to relive the butt 
> and resupply the tank with a small snack. (I rarely stop for a "real" 
> lunch 
> unless it is some kind of coffee shop stop.)
> 2. 50 miles a day, riding loaded seems to prevent being too weary and 
> making the trip a chore. A little time in camp, even if just a relaxed 
> meal 
> preparation is nice too. 
> 3. No matter how fast I can ride if I have too, like making up lost 
> time, beating an incoming storm, etc., It's hard and unpleasant for me to 
> sustain 12 - 14 mph all day. I seem to always fall back to 10 mph, unless 
> riding surfaces, etc. are perfectly smooth and level. 
> However, your schedule is your schedule and if it is inflexible, you 
> may not have a choice. Depending on your exact start and finish 
> locations, 
> the GAPCO is pretty close to 350 miles (50 miles x 7 days). 
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:55:21 AM UTC-4 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Woops yeah 5 days. I figure 65 or so miles a day is a good 6-7 hours 
>> of riding. Seems like it would leave some time to explore. I'm also not 
>> sure how capable my friend and I are of doing that sort of mileage but 

[RBW] Re: My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Pat in DC, You are very likely younger than I am, (closing in on 75 years,) 
but my travel companion for this trip is also younger by a decade and a 
much stronger rider than I. We both were glad we settled on 50 miles a day 
and tried our best to schedule the camps accordingly. After more than a 
decade of doing rail trail multi-day trips, three things I have found feels 
proper for me: 
1. A 5-minute break every 10 miles or so. Mainly to relive the butt and 
resupply the tank with a small snack. (I rarely stop for a "real" lunch 
unless it is some kind of coffee shop stop.)
2. 50 miles a day, riding loaded seems to prevent being too weary and 
making the trip a chore. A little time in camp, even if just a relaxed meal 
preparation is nice too. 
3. No matter how fast I can ride if I have too, like making up lost time, 
beating an incoming storm, etc., It's hard and unpleasant for me to sustain 
12 - 14 mph all day. I seem to always fall back to 10 mph, unless riding 
surfaces, etc. are perfectly smooth and level. 
However, your schedule is your schedule and if it is inflexible, you may 
not have a choice. Depending on your exact start and finish locations, the 
GAPCO is pretty close to 350 miles (50 miles x 7 days). 

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:55:21 AM UTC-4 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:

> Woops yeah 5 days. I figure 65 or so miles a day is a good 6-7 hours of 
> riding. Seems like it would leave some time to explore. I'm also not sure 
> how capable my friend and I are of doing that sort of mileage but time will 
> tell.
>
> Pat in DC
>
> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:38:52 PM UTC-4 marshmonster wrote:
>
>> Pat, you mean 5 days? It's doable but you won't have much time to stop 
>> and check out some of the small towns, take a dip in the Potomac, ride 
>> around Antietem, etc. C was my first bikepacking trip. My only regret is 
>> not giving it more time, I kind of plowed through it in 3 days.
>>
>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:04:11 AM UTC-5 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Nice pics Paul thanks for sharing. A friend and I are doing the DC to 
>>> Pitt direction later this year. I've only ever done overnight bike camping 
>>> trips and he's never even done that. Hoping to do it in 50 days. We live in 
>>> DC.
>>>
>>> Originally had this planned for end of August, but life got in the way 
>>> so now we are shooting for mid October. Gonna need some extra layers for 
>>> sure. Do you know when everything starts to shut down for the season?
>>>
>>> Pat in DC
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:41:07 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>>>
 I  really enjoy seeing all the variations of folks' trips and 
 iterations of outfitting on this route. I'm fortunate to be a twenty 
 minute 
 bike ride from the Pittsburgh end and frequent the GAP portions and points 
 along that way that are fun detours and sightseeing.

  I started riding on the GAP with my Rambouillet which doesn't have a 
 load capacity for self supported travel but as a result I've refined my 
 options for refreshments, meals and accommodations. My favorites are two 
 day rides from home, either out to Ohiopyle for the night and back or to 
 Cumberland with a overnighting in Ohiopyle and Amtrak home from Cumberland 
 at 7pm. It is the use I patterned my custom bike to support. 

 Last year I rode several centuries out and back on the GAP to take 
 advantage of the crowd thinning weather, my familiar trailside resources 
 and the relatively level grades. 

 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh
 On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 12:12:57 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> While I have done unsupported multi-day trip from Pittsburgh to DC 
> (GAPCO) a number of times, this time I accompanied friend, Dan on his 
> 7-day 
> trip from east-to-west in the opposite direction. A bit of a new 
> perspective on the trails along the C Towpath in Maryland and the Great 
> Allegheny Passage in Pennsylvania. 
> I was on my Sam Hillborne, which is my dedicated touring bike, mostly. 
> It serves me very well for this sort of thing. I have a Homer Hilsen I 
> use 
> for mixed-surface riding day trips and love it. It could probably handle 
> touring, but I suspect the slightly stouter Hillborne is more reliable 
> for 
> multi-day loads.
> We chose to go a bit early, the end of April, and were met with a 
> variety of weather conditions, from sunny (even hot) days to cold (down 
> to 
> freezing one night) with a bit of rain thrown in for fun. We were 
> prepared 
> for it so the cooler temps were welcomed.
> The benefits - especially this year when many more folks will 
> undoubtedly be out riding these trails - were fewer trail users and more 
> available campsites and fewer bugs along the Potomac River. (Not that is 
> usually a big problem for us, even in the summer.)
> My Flickr trip 

[RBW] Re: My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Good for you Joseph, doing it on a SS bike! It's fun to do it that way, 
especially Pittsburgh-to-DC, since you can sit back and enjoy that downhill 
from the Eastern Continental Divide to Cumberland, Md. The first couple 
times, I was on a custom fully-rigid 29'er mountain bike towing a trailer. 
I felt I was a big rig truck driver! Unfortunately, trailers have too many 
drawbacks, including taking out your riding partners if you dodge a mud 
puddle! Here's a shot of my Tony Pereira-built bike and rig from a 2011 
GAPCO trip:  
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/6030487459/in/album-72157627412105198/
BTW, I still have the BOB trailer / Chris King rear hub adapters if anyone 
needs something that esoteric! (PM me.)
On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:38:52 PM UTC-4 joseph...@gmail.com wrote:

> Did this ride with a friend and my wife a few summers ago from Pittsburgh 
> to D.C.  
> Friend rode his Atlantis set up as a single speed and I rode a Specialized 
> AWOL also set up as a single speed since the entire thing is a rail to 
> trail.  
> My wife rode a newly purchased Cheviot.  Super fun trip and I suggest 
> Stopping in Hancock at the C Bicycle shop.  
> You can sleep in there lot in a fenced off Chicken coop like thing for 
> humans.  You can also shower there.
>
> Joseph in Chicago
>
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:04:11 AM UTC-5 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Nice pics Paul thanks for sharing. A friend and I are doing the DC to 
>> Pitt direction later this year. I've only ever done overnight bike camping 
>> trips and he's never even done that. Hoping to do it in 50 days. We live in 
>> DC.
>>
>> Originally had this planned for end of August, but life got in the way so 
>> now we are shooting for mid October. Gonna need some extra layers for sure. 
>> Do you know when everything starts to shut down for the season?
>>
>> Pat in DC
>>
>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:41:07 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>>
>>> I  really enjoy seeing all the variations of folks' trips and iterations 
>>> of outfitting on this route. I'm fortunate to be a twenty minute bike ride 
>>> from the Pittsburgh end and frequent the GAP portions and points along that 
>>> way that are fun detours and sightseeing.
>>>
>>>  I started riding on the GAP with my Rambouillet which doesn't have a 
>>> load capacity for self supported travel but as a result I've refined my 
>>> options for refreshments, meals and accommodations. My favorites are two 
>>> day rides from home, either out to Ohiopyle for the night and back or to 
>>> Cumberland with a overnighting in Ohiopyle and Amtrak home from Cumberland 
>>> at 7pm. It is the use I patterned my custom bike to support. 
>>>
>>> Last year I rode several centuries out and back on the GAP to take 
>>> advantage of the crowd thinning weather, my familiar trailside resources 
>>> and the relatively level grades. 
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 12:12:57 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>>
 While I have done unsupported multi-day trip from Pittsburgh to DC 
 (GAPCO) a number of times, this time I accompanied friend, Dan on his 
 7-day 
 trip from east-to-west in the opposite direction. A bit of a new 
 perspective on the trails along the C Towpath in Maryland and the Great 
 Allegheny Passage in Pennsylvania. 
 I was on my Sam Hillborne, which is my dedicated touring bike, mostly. 
 It serves me very well for this sort of thing. I have a Homer Hilsen I use 
 for mixed-surface riding day trips and love it. It could probably handle 
 touring, but I suspect the slightly stouter Hillborne is more reliable for 
 multi-day loads.
 We chose to go a bit early, the end of April, and were met with a 
 variety of weather conditions, from sunny (even hot) days to cold (down to 
 freezing one night) with a bit of rain thrown in for fun. We were prepared 
 for it so the cooler temps were welcomed.
 The benefits - especially this year when many more folks will 
 undoubtedly be out riding these trails - were fewer trail users and more 
 available campsites and fewer bugs along the Potomac River. (Not that is 
 usually a big problem for us, even in the summer.)
 My Flickr trip album of the trip is chock full unfortunately - for my 
 own memories - so I apologize in advance. This time around, however, I 
 tried not to duplicate photos of the numerous and more recognizable 
 landmarks for the GAPCO, which I have done before.
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157719131492162
 Happy trails to all,
 Paul Germain
 Midlothian, Va.



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[RBW] Re: My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip

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Pat, I would say most of the trail towns' resupply points are open all 
year, but not all. The campsites on the C are open year-round. Camping on 
the GAP is trickier during winter, but I would say likely open until late 
November - a guess. A better source of first-hand information can be had 
from the various FB groups for both trails. Not uncommon for the GAP to 
have snow as a trail surface mid-winter. (Can you say, cross country 
skiing?) See my answer to Rich about additional winter closures.
By the way, as to extra layers, the C can be quite warm and chilly in the 
same trip. Though carrying extra clothes and gear can be a hassle, better 
safe than sorry. I find wool layers will pretty much cover all scenarios 
and needs little in the way of washing mid-trip. Also, wool can make all 
the difference in the rain! 
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va

On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 10:04:11 AM UTC-4 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:

> Nice pics Paul thanks for sharing. A friend and I are doing the DC to Pitt 
> direction later this year. I've only ever done overnight bike camping trips 
> and he's never even done that. Hoping to do it in 50 days. We live in DC.
>
> Originally had this planned for end of August, but life got in the way so 
> now we are shooting for mid October. Gonna need some extra layers for sure. 
> Do you know when everything starts to shut down for the season?
>
> Pat in DC
>
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:41:07 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> I  really enjoy seeing all the variations of folks' trips and iterations 
>> of outfitting on this route. I'm fortunate to be a twenty minute bike ride 
>> from the Pittsburgh end and frequent the GAP portions and points along that 
>> way that are fun detours and sightseeing.
>>
>>  I started riding on the GAP with my Rambouillet which doesn't have a 
>> load capacity for self supported travel but as a result I've refined my 
>> options for refreshments, meals and accommodations. My favorites are two 
>> day rides from home, either out to Ohiopyle for the night and back or to 
>> Cumberland with a overnighting in Ohiopyle and Amtrak home from Cumberland 
>> at 7pm. It is the use I patterned my custom bike to support. 
>>
>> Last year I rode several centuries out and back on the GAP to take 
>> advantage of the crowd thinning weather, my familiar trailside resources 
>> and the relatively level grades. 
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 12:12:57 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>
>>> While I have done unsupported multi-day trip from Pittsburgh to DC 
>>> (GAPCO) a number of times, this time I accompanied friend, Dan on his 7-day 
>>> trip from east-to-west in the opposite direction. A bit of a new 
>>> perspective on the trails along the C Towpath in Maryland and the Great 
>>> Allegheny Passage in Pennsylvania. 
>>> I was on my Sam Hillborne, which is my dedicated touring bike, mostly. 
>>> It serves me very well for this sort of thing. I have a Homer Hilsen I use 
>>> for mixed-surface riding day trips and love it. It could probably handle 
>>> touring, but I suspect the slightly stouter Hillborne is more reliable for 
>>> multi-day loads.
>>> We chose to go a bit early, the end of April, and were met with a 
>>> variety of weather conditions, from sunny (even hot) days to cold (down to 
>>> freezing one night) with a bit of rain thrown in for fun. We were prepared 
>>> for it so the cooler temps were welcomed.
>>> The benefits - especially this year when many more folks will 
>>> undoubtedly be out riding these trails - were fewer trail users and more 
>>> available campsites and fewer bugs along the Potomac River. (Not that is 
>>> usually a big problem for us, even in the summer.)
>>> My Flickr trip album of the trip is chock full unfortunately - for my 
>>> own memories - so I apologize in advance. This time around, however, I 
>>> tried not to duplicate photos of the numerous and more recognizable 
>>> landmarks for the GAPCO, which I have done before.
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157719131492162
>>> Happy trails to all,
>>> Paul Germain
>>> Midlothian, Va.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hey Rich, you're welcome for the pics. I have done the trip 5-6 times in 
many variations, so can supply you (privately, so as not to bore others) 
with more Flickr albums, most with more "iconic" landmarks along the GAPCO. 
The trails are seldom what you would call "busy or crowded" but this year 
may present more trail traffic than in the past. That could mean sharing 
the smaller campsites with others. 
As to timing, both spring and late fall are probably my favorites, but if 
you want to avoid possible cold, summer is fine, too. The C campsites are 
along the Potomac, so  a bit more buggy during the summer. They are free, 
and each varies in capacity. All provide primitive water pumps (teated with 
iodine) and a clean portajohn. 
Both the C and the GAP provide enough shade to have relief from the sun. 
Also, the GAP being mostly Pennsylvania, is both more northern and higher 
elevation, so cooler. (Up and over the Eastern Continental Divide.) 
The C can be ridden/toured all year long, but winter can present some mud 
puddles. (There are efforts by the park in many places in the eastern 
sections of the C to provide smoother and drier "pavement" - a hard 
composite of some sort, which cuts down on the dodging and weaving around 
mud puddles, which can get a bit tiresome if you're doing 50 miles a day.) 
The GAP is mostly cinder, but can get soft during prolonged rains. 
The GAP is open all year, but gets more snow and freezing temps. 
Importantly, the main tunnel, the Big Savage, underwent expensive 
restoration and is closed during the coldest portion of winter. (Closing 
and reopening dates are provided on their FB page.) No good and safe 
alternative detours I know of. I've ridden the section of the GAP between 
Cumberland, MD, at the eastern end, up to Rockwood, PA for camping 
overnight as late as Thanksgiving and the tunnel was open that late in the 
year. It was fun but temps did dip to about 24 degrees overnight, 
necessitating a winter-weight sleeping bag. I did it to say I could do it! 
There is lots of good info out there for both trails and both have active 
FB groups posting current conditions. Good luck! Have a blast. 
On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 4:44:05 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> Good report! Looks like you and friend Dan had a fine time. Your visual 
> and written account is much appreciated. This trip has been high on my want 
> to ride list for some time. Would late spring (which worked well for you) 
> or fall be the optimal seasons to be on the trail? 
>
> Thanks very much.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 10:04:11 AM UTC-4 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Nice pics Paul thanks for sharing. A friend and I are doing the DC to 
>> Pitt direction later this year. I've only ever done overnight bike camping 
>> trips and he's never even done that. Hoping to do it in 50 days. We live in 
>> DC.
>>
>> Originally had this planned for end of August, but life got in the way so 
>> now we are shooting for mid October. Gonna need some extra layers for sure. 
>> Do you know when everything starts to shut down for the season?
>>
>> Pat in DC
>>
>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:41:07 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>>
>>> I  really enjoy seeing all the variations of folks' trips and iterations 
>>> of outfitting on this route. I'm fortunate to be a twenty minute bike ride 
>>> from the Pittsburgh end and frequent the GAP portions and points along that 
>>> way that are fun detours and sightseeing.
>>>
>>>  I started riding on the GAP with my Rambouillet which doesn't have a 
>>> load capacity for self supported travel but as a result I've refined my 
>>> options for refreshments, meals and accommodations. My favorites are two 
>>> day rides from home, either out to Ohiopyle for the night and back or to 
>>> Cumberland with a overnighting in Ohiopyle and Amtrak home from Cumberland 
>>> at 7pm. It is the use I patterned my custom bike to support. 
>>>
>>> Last year I rode several centuries out and back on the GAP to take 
>>> advantage of the crowd thinning weather, my familiar trailside resources 
>>> and the relatively level grades. 
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 12:12:57 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>>
 While I have done unsupported multi-day trip from Pittsburgh to DC 
 (GAPCO) a number of times, this time I accompanied friend, Dan on his 
 7-day 
 trip from east-to-west in the opposite direction. A bit of a new 
 perspective on the trails along the C Towpath in Maryland and the Great 
 Allegheny Passage in Pennsylvania. 
 I was on my Sam Hillborne, which is my dedicated touring bike, mostly. 
 It serves me very well for this sort of thing. I have a Homer Hilsen I use 
 for mixed-surface riding day trips and love it. It could probably handle 
 touring, but I suspect the slightly stouter Hillborne is more reliable for 
 multi-day loads.
 We chose to go a bit early, the end of April, and were 

[RBW] Re: My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip

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aeroperf, by the way, the two maps you can see in my initial Flickr album 
image are the "official" maps for both sections and free:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/51160526433/in/album-72157719131492162/
They can be very helpful planning your trip, but give me a shoutout if you 
have specific questions. Amtrak offers bike service on both ends (and 
mid-way in Cumberland) but don't expect the end of service the West Coast 
gets for trains. Usually one bike baggage car a day, not necessarily 
convenient hours either!

On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 8:05:24 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Hey aeroperf, this is my third time doing the trip on the Hillborne and it 
> does just beautifully well. It's up to carrying four panniers and the front 
> basket w/Sugarloaf bag, tent on the rear rack top, as you can see from the 
> photos. It's pretty stable and I ride in comfort thanks to the Moustache 
> bars and upright Nitto mountain stem. I'm running the old Vittoria 
> Randonneur / Voyager Hypers - very nice tires which I think are 
> discontinued now. I like to tour with fenders, so I'm using the 35mm 
> version, but would run 38mm's without fenders.
> As to the East-to-West version of the GAPCO, we liked it fine. The only 
> drawback is the 3-hour climb out of Cumberland, Maryland up to the Eastern 
> Continental Divide. (As opposed to a rapid and fun decent going in the 
> other direction.) 
> For those who have not experienced it, The Great Allegheny Passage starts 
> in Pittsburgh, PA and ends in Cumberland, MD and the C Towpath Nat'l Park 
> picks up all the way into Washington D.C. We did about 50 miles a day for a 
> total of 350 miles, almost all off-road except our start riding from 
> (Amtrak) Union Station in DC to get to Milepost Zero on the C and the 
> arrival in Pittsburgh to reach our nearby hotel. (We reserved a mid-sized 
> SUV for our return to Richmond, Va., which you can see in the last few 
> images.)
>
> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 6:30:39 PM UTC-4 aeroperf wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I see that it is the Great Allegheny Passage.  I should have read 
>> more closely.
>> Thanks for your post!
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip

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Hey aeroperf, this is my third time doing the trip on the Hillborne and it 
does just beautifully well. It's up to carrying four panniers and the front 
basket w/Sugarloaf bag, tent on the rear rack top, as you can see from the 
photos. It's pretty stable and I ride in comfort thanks to the Moustache 
bars and upright Nitto mountain stem. I'm running the old Vittoria 
Randonneur / Voyager Hypers - very nice tires which I think are 
discontinued now. I like to tour with fenders, so I'm using the 35mm 
version, but would run 38mm's without fenders.
As to the East-to-West version of the GAPCO, we liked it fine. The only 
drawback is the 3-hour climb out of Cumberland, Maryland up to the Eastern 
Continental Divide. (As opposed to a rapid and fun decent going in the 
other direction.) 
For those who have not experienced it, The Great Allegheny Passage starts 
in Pittsburgh, PA and ends in Cumberland, MD and the C Towpath Nat'l Park 
picks up all the way into Washington D.C. We did about 50 miles a day for a 
total of 350 miles, almost all off-road except our start riding from 
(Amtrak) Union Station in DC to get to Milepost Zero on the C and the 
arrival in Pittsburgh to reach our nearby hotel. (We reserved a mid-sized 
SUV for our return to Richmond, Va., which you can see in the last few 
images.)

On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 6:30:39 PM UTC-4 aeroperf wrote:

> Sorry, I see that it is the Great Allegheny Passage.  I should have read 
> more closely.
> Thanks for your post!
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

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Nice work Jason! I feel like I was there! Your side of the continent looks 
absolutely primordial compared to the Mid-Atlantic!
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 11:50:58 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I had a particular route in mind when I bought this frameset from Joe, and 
> today I rode it (well, one version of it). It's just outside of town here 
> in Vancouver BC, and its quite special. We have an immense wealth of trails 
> on our north shore, though most are technical mountain bike or hiking 
> trails. I love those trails, but this route features the only extended 
> stretch of gravel that is fully closed to motorized traffic as well as the 
> only paved parkway that extends into the wilderness in this region. 
>
> I can ride it from my doorstep; it's about 11km to get to this paved 
> parkway - popular in summer, but pretty quiet nowadays. 
>
> [image: IMG_2849rs.JPG]
>
> This path carves through the rainforest for about 5km, leaving cell 
> service behind, until a pretty hard-to-miss singletrack turnoff takes you 
> down a steep embankment to this grand clearing, known as The Spot among 
> friends here. Despite its established looks, it's both well hidden and hard 
> to access, and therefore goes unknown to many who ride this region. 
>
> [image: IMG_2851rs.JPG]
>
> From here, my route follows a steep downhill stretch of singletrack to a 
> marsh, where a gravel access road begins and will take me a further 7km 
> into the valley and away from the city. 
>
> [image: PXL_20201128_222541680.jpg]
>
> This access road, called Spur 4, used to be charming double-track with 
> grass up the middle but it was graded this year with fresh gravel. 
> Unfortunate. Bears and cougars inhabit this area and humans are few and far 
> between - combine this with the lack of cell service and the fact you're 
> now over 10km into the woods, it can be pretty humbling to ride alone. 
>
> [image: IMG_2861.JPG]
>
> A connector trail brings you back to the main parkway, where most people 
> are. It was a little wet today, but that's fine by me. I can't imagine life 
> without full-coverage fenders! 
>
> [image: IMG_2863rs.JPG]
>
> Above is the view of the lake, which is as far as you can go. It was only 
> about 2:30 but already the sun was falling behind the tall peaks to the 
> west; I'm far enough north that it's getting dark shortly after 4pm now. 
>
> [image: PXL_20201128_230524452.jpg]
>
> The first leg of the return route is called the Hatchery Trail, and it's 
> the highlight of the whole route for me. It's a non-technical trail that 
> winds through the moss-rich forest, including placards with information on 
> local wildlife. It's beautifully maintained and quite wonderous, 
> considering the nearest vehicle parking is 10km away!   
>
> [image: IMG_2871rs.JPG]
>
> This puts you back on the paved parkway, which I followed for the full 
> 10km back out of the forest. At the parking lot, I followed a steep 
> downhill connector trail to the trail network to the east. 
>
> [image: IMG_2877rs.JPG]
>
> As I dropped in elevation I entered a pre-sunset fog. Combined with the 
> beginnings of a sunset, it really made for a cool effect with the moss and 
> lichen covered trees. 
>
> [image: PXL_20201129_000243149.jpg]
>
> The full route from my door falls a bit short of 60km, which is a nice 
> length for me - big enough to be rather epic, but can be done in about 4 
> hours and leaves me with a bit of gas in the tank so I'm not a wreck for 
> the rest of the evening! 
>
> Thanks for following along with my ride report / coming to my TED Talk! 
>
>

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[RBW] My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip

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While I have done unsupported multi-day trip from Pittsburgh to DC (GAPCO) 
a number of times, this time I accompanied friend, Dan on his 7-day trip 
from east-to-west in the opposite direction. A bit of a new perspective on 
the trails along the C Towpath in Maryland and the Great Allegheny 
Passage in Pennsylvania. 
I was on my Sam Hillborne, which is my dedicated touring bike, mostly. It 
serves me very well for this sort of thing. I have a Homer Hilsen I use for 
mixed-surface riding day trips and love it. It could probably handle 
touring, but I suspect the slightly stouter Hillborne is more reliable for 
multi-day loads.
We chose to go a bit early, the end of April, and were met with a variety 
of weather conditions, from sunny (even hot) days to cold (down to freezing 
one night) with a bit of rain thrown in for fun. We were prepared for it so 
the cooler temps were welcomed.
The benefits - especially this year when many more folks will undoubtedly 
be out riding these trails - were fewer trail users and more available 
campsites and fewer bugs along the Potomac River. (Not that is usually a 
big problem for us, even in the summer.)
My Flickr trip album of the trip is chock full unfortunately - for my own 
memories - so I apologize in advance. This time around, however, I tried 
not to duplicate photos of the numerous and more recognizable landmarks for 
the GAPCO, which I have done before.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157719131492162
Happy trails to all,
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

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[RBW] Re: FS - 43mm 700c Hammered Honjos

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Thanks all. I have a sale pending on the Honjos.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, VA

On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 7:32:34 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> After 13 years of use, my 43mm / 700c hammered Honjo fenders were 
> serviceable but looked ragged enough to replace. 
> Two years ago, I purchased a new set of replacement fenders (without 
> hardware) from Jitensha Studio in Berkley, CA. 
> I unboxed them but never unwrapped or mounted and finally decided to go 
> fenderless for a while.
>
> These will easily fit 32mm tires. (See my Flickr images of my Oswald Sport 
> Tourer with the old fenders in use.)
> The fenders are not pre-drilled to allow for maximum installation 
> flexibility.
> I will include the previous hardware and stays, including PDW (Pacific 
> Design Works) Safety Tabs on the front fender stays. I can provide the old 
> fenders, 
> which are still serviceable and may act as a template of sorts for 
> drilling.
>
> Previous stays on my 56cm Oswald Sport Tourer are aprox. 345mm (front) / 
> 350mm (rear) from fender edge to stay end.
>
> Flickr images:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157715593666532
>
> I paid Jitensha $73 for the two fenders without hardware, plus $30 
> shipping and will sell the fenders plus hardware (with old fenders if you 
> wish) for $50, plus $30 shipping.
> PayPal preferred.
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, VA
>

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[RBW] FS - 43mm 700c Hammered Honjos

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After 13 years of use, my 43mm / 700c hammered Honjo fenders were 
serviceable but looked ragged enough to replace. 
Two years ago, I purchased a new set of replacement fenders (without 
hardware) from Jitensha Studio in Berkley, CA. 
I unboxed them but never unwrapped or mounted and finally decided to go 
fenderless for a while.

These will easily fit 32mm tires. (See my Flickr images of my Oswald Sport 
Tourer with the old fenders in use.)
The fenders are not pre-drilled to allow for maximum installation 
flexibility.
I will include the previous hardware and stays, including PDW (Pacific 
Design Works) Safety Tabs on the front fender stays. I can provide the old 
fenders, 
which are still serviceable and may act as a template of sorts for drilling.

Previous stays on my 56cm Oswald Sport Tourer are aprox. 345mm (front) / 
350mm (rear) from fender edge to stay end.

Flickr images:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157715593666532

I paid Jitensha $73 for the two fenders without hardware, plus $30 shipping 
and will sell the fenders plus hardware (with old fenders if you wish) for 
$50, plus $30 shipping.
PayPal preferred.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, VA

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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

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Hi Adam, 
I wanted to share my AHH, set up as my mixed-surface bike. (Lots of gravel 
roads west of Richmond, Va.) Yes, it has been modified for canti's, paint 
color (powder coat) and decals by Brad Click of Denver, from whom I 
purchased it in Jan., 2015. He did a great job! 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/46793762461/in/album-72157705950163554/
I use a Sam for my touring because it is stouter, but this one just feels 
so lively under me! I can bomb down steep and chunky gravel roads without a 
worry! 38 mm Vittoria Hyper Randooneurs for rubber. I added the older VO 
fenders I purchased ages ago when Virginia became the new Seattle! They 
keep the drivetrain cleaner!
Paul Germain,
Midlothian, Va.

On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 2:29:13 PM UTC-5, Adam Leibow wrote:
>
> hi all, i want to create a thread where you just post a picture of your 
> rivendell(s) whenever you feel like it. hope this is OK w/ the mods. i love 
> lookin at pics of em all day. i will start with my sam hillborne.
>
>
> [image: IMG_3920.jpeg]
>

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[RBW] Re: Riding the Four Inch Snow Rail

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Rough Stuff Fellowship! Wonderful image!

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:19:17 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Ha! Aye, Craig. Doubtless, biking and snow have gone together from the 
> very beginning.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Calif. Atlantis rider on the GAP last week?

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Well, Doug, you have a Doppleganger on this coast! I'm not disappointed, 
hearing that you plan a GAP trip with the wife sometime. You will enjoy it! 
Combine it with a C trip to D.C. and you have some of the best trail 
riding we can offer. I'm in Va., but let me know if you nail down dates. 
Many Riv. folks around D.C., too, if you want company!

The GAP rarely gets too busy to ride, though summer is busiest, not 
surprisingly. Spring or Fall - before & after the school year - is when I 
like it best! They close the Big Savage Tunnel near the Eastern Continental 
Divide for the worst of winter to protect it, but I've been up there for an 
overnighter when the temps got down to 14 degrees at night, but dressed for 
it. Many places along the trail to eat and do B's too!

Finally, AMTRAK has started limited roll-on bike service (the Capitol 
Limited) between D.C. and Chicago, with a main stop in Pittsburgh, the 
western end of the GAPCO. Also a stop in Cumberland, MD, the eastern end of 
the GAP. If you opt for that, book early! We're not as advanced as you 
folks on the west coast. I envy the service there.

On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 3:39:35 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote:
>
> Paul:
>
> Sorry to disappoint but no, it was not me.  That ride is actually on our 
> short list of Eastern rides to do so maybe someday you'll see a pair of 
> Atlantis' on the trail.  Also on the list is the Finger Lakes in New York 
> (my wife's from Brooklyn).  
>
> We miss you & Ian.  You guys are such a great story with having bikes to 
> ride at each others homes.  Perhaps we can connect when we head east.  No 
> firm plans at the moment though.
>
> dougP
>
> On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 7:25:22 AM UTC-7, Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>
>> When my brother-in-law, Ian, lived in L.A., Calif. for a number of years, 
>> I flew out to ride with him and his great bunch of buddies. (And visit my 
>> sister, too, of course)! 
>>
>> One of those I enjoyed meeting was Doug P. who posts here. (I've been 
>> preoccupied lately and have not been able to visit the Riv. list for a 
>> while). Last week I was finishing up a Pittsburgh-to-Cumberland, MD trip on 
>> the GAP with 5 friends. On the last day, Wed. Oct. 25, I passed a solo 
>> rider on what I was sure was a Rivendell, headed in the direction of 
>> Pittsburgh. The guy looked familiar, but it took me about 10 minutes to 
>> connect the face with (quite possibly) Doug P. on his Atlantis. Am I 
>> correct Doug? If so, let me know how you liked the Great Allegheny Passage. 
>> (Despite hard rain all day on Monday)!
>>
>> If it was you, I am miffed that I was not quicker recognizing you! 
>>
>> Regards,
>> Paul Germain
>> Midlothian, Va.
>>
>
>

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[RBW] Calif. Atlantis rider on the GAP last week?

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When my brother-in-law, Ian, lived in L.A., Calif. for a number of years, I 
flew out to ride with him and his great bunch of buddies. (And visit my 
sister, too, of course)! 

One of those I enjoyed meeting was Doug P. who posts here. (I've been 
preoccupied lately and have not been able to visit the Riv. list for a 
while). Last week I was finishing up a Pittsburgh-to-Cumberland, MD trip on 
the GAP with 5 friends. On the last day, Wed. Oct. 25, I passed a solo 
rider on what I was sure was a Rivendell, headed in the direction of 
Pittsburgh. The guy looked familiar, but it took me about 10 minutes to 
connect the face with (quite possibly) Doug P. on his Atlantis. Am I 
correct Doug? If so, let me know how you liked the Great Allegheny Passage. 
(Despite hard rain all day on Monday)!

If it was you, I am miffed that I was not quicker recognizing you! 

Regards,
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

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[RBW] Re: OT: New Bike Shed Day

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Wonderful design Erl! Love the design.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 7:52:45 AM UTC-4, WETH wrote:
>
> Riv content is the Riv contents: Rosco Bubbe, Romulus, and Road Standard.
>
> Short version: photos of my two new bike sheds recreated from two photos 
> found online: 
> https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157687667377971
>
> Longer version:  I have been searching for a bike storage solution for a 
> few years to house my burgeoning bike collection.  Lot restrictions 
> including topography and house placement precluded a full size shed or 
> detached garage as practical or aesthetically desirable solutions.  Storage 
> inside the house was not optimal or convenient.  After searching online I 
> came across this intriguing design: https://flic.kr/p/YNFCKL. It looked 
> compact and most importantly it looked like it would fit my parameters: 
> wouldn't obstruct the kitchen windows, would fit near the backdoor and 
> driveway between AC unit and screen porch, and would be easy to secure & 
> use.  After a fruitless search for plans for the shed I'd seen or an owner 
> of the photograph, I showed the photo to a few handymen and found one 
> willing to replicate it.  Since my wife and sons each have a bike, I 
> thought two sheds would be better than one!  N+1!
>
> I still need to paint the exteriors, install a lock on the doors, and 
> install some shelving and hooks inside for helmets and other gear.  (The 
> bikes are locked to each other in the meantime.)  I also need to find 
> stronger gas struts to hold the door up/open.  Overall I'm thrilled! I can 
> now keep all my bikes out of the weather, secured, and hidden all while 
> keeping them easy to take out and to secure when done!!  
> Same Photos here: 
> https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157687667377971
>
> Thanks for indulging my excitement,
> Erl
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

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Carla, I'm a bit late with a reply, but I have had two Sam Hillbornes. The 
first was a double TT 56cm, 2010 vintage - a tad bit too large for me. I 
used it for rough touring and was satisfied. But, I sold it and bought the 
beautiful black & cream 55 cm single TT and moved all components - 
including the 100mm stem and mustache bars - and added low rider racks up 
front. I love it! Still my touring / commuter. I'm 5'11" and weight about 
165-170 lbs. By the way, the workmanship and paint was much improved on the 
2015 model. The slight price bump between the two was well worth it for the 
cleaner appearance! Flickr 
album: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157656598945451

My vote: a BUY!

Paul in Midlothian, Va.

On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 7:18:50 PM UTC-5, Carla Waugh wrote:
>
> Hello Sam owners I'm thinking about purchasing a Sam for retirement partly 
> price mostly because it's a Rivendell and lugged. I have one other bike 
> it's a custom 650B and I know the Sam is a 700c. Ideas? Thoughts? Thanks

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[RBW] Re: FS - LN Carradice Camper Longflap

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The bag is spoken for, pending Payment. Thanks all.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Friday, January 20, 2017 at 4:15:22 PM UTC-5, Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
> *(Please excuse the cross-post from the RBW list).*
>
> FS - Like new Carradice Camper Longflap, 24 Liters, 35cm wide x 24cm high, 
> 23cm deep, beautifully-made bag. Used only 3 times, never in rain or 
> without fenders. Bag not left on bike between uses; absolutely no fading or 
> wear. Very slight rubbing on bottom from resting on a rear rack. Two extra 
> lash straps included. Bag support or rear rack suggested, especially if 
> you ride a smaller frame or carry heavier loads.
>
> As seen on Ben's Cycle site, $155 (without the extra lash straps or 
> postage):
>
> *http://www.benscycle.com/p-19-carradice-camper-lf-saddle-bag.aspx 
> *
>
> I will sell bag & 2 lash straps for $115 + $18.75 USPS Priority Flat Rate 
> shipping.
>
> Photos of bag and the bag mounted on a 61 cm Atlantis:
>
> *https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157679280599115 
> *
>
> Kindly contact me off list to help keep this forum clean.
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
>

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[RBW] FS - LN Carradice Camper Longflap

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*(Please excuse the cross-post from the RBW list).*

FS - Like new Carradice Camper Longflap, 24 Liters, 35cm wide x 24cm high, 
23cm deep, beautifully-made bag. Used only 3 times, never in rain or 
without fenders. Bag not left on bike between uses; absolutely no fading or 
wear. Very slight rubbing on bottom from resting on a rear rack. Two extra 
lash straps included. Bag support or rear rack suggested, especially if you 
ride a smaller frame or carry heavier loads.

As seen on Ben's Cycle site, $155 (without the extra lash straps or 
postage):

*http://www.benscycle.com/p-19-carradice-camper-lf-saddle-bag.aspx*

I will sell bag & 2 lash straps for $115 + $18.75 USPS Priority Flat Rate 
shipping.

Photos of bag and the bag mounted on a 61 cm Atlantis:

*https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157679280599115*

Kindly contact me off list to help keep this forum clean.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

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[RBW] Re: FS - Nitto Noodles, Lugged Stem, B17, CrossRIDE tires.

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All sold except the 41cm Noodles. Anyone? 
Thanks,
Paul

On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 4:03:08 PM UTC-5, Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
> *Hey all, left from a frame sale:*
>
> Nitto Lugged Stem, 26mm x 100mm. Used, in very good condition. Price on 
> Rivendell site: $228. Will sell for $110, shipped, CONUS.
>
> Nitto Noodle bars, 41cm. Used, in very good condition. Rivendell site: 
> $73. Will sell for $40, shipped, CONUS.
>
> Brooks B17, honey saddle. Used with some natural beausage, but in good 
> condition. Price on Rivendell site: $130. Will sell for $75, shipped, CONUS.
>
> Pair of Continental CrossRIDE narrow knobbies, 700 x 42mm (measure 39mm.) 
> New, mounted but not ridden. Price on Rivendell site: $30 ea. 
> ( 
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/tires/products/continental-cyclocross-cross-ride-700c-x-42-39-folding
>  
> ) Will sell for $30/pair, shipped free, CONUS.
>
> Images on Flickr: 
> *https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157660981689094 
> *
>
> Contact me off-list.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: What is the most interesting thing in you parts bin?

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Chris,
-20 and 4 feet of snow? And you're not building that thing? Shame!
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 7:42:04 PM UTC-5, Christopher Murray wrote:
>
> It's -20 with about 4 feet of snow here so I did a little parts bin 
> organizing. Made me wonder what interesting things people have stashed 
> away. Mine is a new in the box, never built up, hunqapillar green with 
> cream details, 56cm Quickbeam. One day I'll get around to building it up.  
>
> What do you got? Bonus point for pictures. 
>
> Cheers!
> Chris
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS - Nitto Noodles, Lugged Stem, B17, CrossRIDE tires.

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Sold, the Nitto Lugged Stem and the Brooks B17. The Noodles and the Conti 
CrossRIDE tires still up for sale.

Thanks all,
Paul Germain

On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 4:03:08 PM UTC-5, Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
> *Hey all, left from a frame sale:*
>
> Nitto Lugged Stem, 26mm x 100mm. Used, in very good condition. Price on 
> Rivendell site: $228. Will sell for $110, shipped, CONUS.
>
> Nitto Noodle bars, 41cm. Used, in very good condition. Rivendell site: 
> $73. Will sell for $40, shipped, CONUS.
>
> Brooks B17, honey saddle. Used with some natural beausage, but in good 
> condition. Price on Rivendell site: $130. Will sell for $75, shipped, CONUS.
>
> Pair of Continental CrossRIDE narrow knobbies, 700 x 42mm (measure 39mm.) 
> New, mounted but not ridden. Price on Rivendell site: $30 ea. 
> ( 
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/tires/products/continental-cyclocross-cross-ride-700c-x-42-39-folding
>  
> ) Will sell for $30/pair, shipped free, CONUS.
>
> Images on Flickr: 
> *https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157660981689094 
> *
>
> Contact me off-list.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
>
>

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[RBW] FS - Nitto Noodles, Lugged Stem, B17, CrossRIDE tires.

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*Hey all, left from a frame sale:*

Nitto Lugged Stem, 26mm x 100mm. Used, in very good condition. Price on 
Rivendell site: $228. Will sell for $110, shipped, CONUS.

Nitto Noodle bars, 41cm. Used, in very good condition. Rivendell site: $73. 
Will sell for $40, shipped, CONUS.

Brooks B17, honey saddle. Used with some natural beausage, but in good 
condition. Price on Rivendell site: $130. Will sell for $75, shipped, CONUS.

Pair of Continental CrossRIDE narrow knobbies, 700 x 42mm (measure 39mm.) 
New, mounted but not ridden. Price on Rivendell site: $30 ea. 
( 
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/tires/products/continental-cyclocross-cross-ride-700c-x-42-39-folding
 
) Will sell for $30/pair, shipped free, CONUS.

Images on Flickr: 
*https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157660981689094*

Contact me off-list.

Thanks,
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.


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[RBW] Re: Has anyone used this bell?

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Steve, I'm down near Richmond, but can attest to the worthiness of the 
Spurcycle bell. I was a part of the original Kickstarter campaign. After 
that, I purchased two more (at considerably higher prices)! Very elegant, 
minimalist and a nice piercing sound that gets attention. These guys did a 
great job of design, down to the wonderful packaging. With each I received, 
I felt like I was unwrapping a Faberge' egg! What sold me over anything 
else was the ingenious way it attaches without screws, nuts, etc. Most of 
that portion is hidden away inside the bell, with only the slender (maybe 
5mm) stainless strap showing. Clean! Treat yourself!
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 7:02:01 AM UTC-5, islaysteve wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a shop in the DC/MVA area that sells Spurcycle bells, 
> and actually has some on display?
> Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: Best of 2016

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And "Mr. Crust" himself from the Phila. Bike Expo in November:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/30568925680/in/album-72157676265277926/

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 10:56:36 AM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> Interesting landscape beausage. Love the crusty Crust!
>
> On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 9:30:26 AM UTC-5, Meade Anderson wrote:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/julianmeade/albums/72157677489940400
>>
>> 16 for 16...kinda...
>>
>> a few shots to remember rides from the past  year...
>>
>> enjoy
>>
>> meade
>>
>>  
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Best of 2016

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I'm a bit late with these, but had such a hard time editing down to just 
16! Over 5,000 miles in the year I turned 70! How lucky is THAT?   
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157675219256053

Paul Germain,
Midlothian, Va.


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[RBW] Re: Best of 2016

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On Sunday, January 1, 2017 at 8:40:53 PM UTC-5, stonehog wrote:
>
> It feels like the time of year to post your "best of 2016" - are ya with 
> me??  OK - I'll start it off with the obligatory blog post (dwindling these 
> days):  https://stonehog.com/2016/12/31/2016-redux 
>
> And Flickr album: https://flic.kr/s/aHskRBkZQ9
>
> Brian Hanson
> Seattle, WA
> Bike Blog 
> @stonehog
> stonehogboɥǝuoʇs
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[RBW] FS - new Acorn bag

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Forgive the cross-post. I have a new unused Acorn Medium / Large Saddle Bag 
in Khaki for sale as seen here:
https://www.acornbags.com/collections/rear-bags/products/medium-large-saddlebag?variant=1113865760
I just purchased it, but decided to go with a rando bag instead. If you 
missed the recent release of the khaki bags, I will sell for $105, plus $12 
shipping. Contact me off-list.
Paul in Midlothian, Va.

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[RBW] Re: AHH For Loaded Touring?

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Hunter,

You may be able to have your cake and eat it, too. When I found my sport 
tourer bike was a bit too wimpy for 4 full panniers and racks, I started 
using a BOB trailer when I went a-touring. On rail trails (read: flat, not 
always paved) I even used it on a SS ridged 29er mountain bike. It's a 
whole different experience towing the weight behind, admittedly, and not 
for everyone. But you might like it and you can get in and out of the 
trailer decision for cheap - especially if you find one used. (I think I 
paid about $200 for mine). I have an AHH now and think it would handle the 
trailer fine. 

I now have a dedicated touring bike I set up from a Sam Hillborne, so use 
Nitto racks and panniers. Sold the BOB since it was overlap. But, it gave 
me a chance to learn what I needed to know about touring and touring 
equipment over the couple years I used the BOB.

Downsides to a trailer? A bit harder to transport depending on your 
vehicle. Harder to get in and out of the bag(s) in a hurry if you need 
something like a jacket. (But you can always add a handlebar bag for 
snacks, jacket, etc., which is what I did). A bit more to store. Finally, 
towing the weight behind can take some getting used to - both for you and 
your touring partners following you and is harder to park, though they do 
make a kickstand for the Bob, which helped me a lot.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 2:15:06 AM UTC-4, Hunter Ellis wrote:
>
> Hey guys--looking at a future dream bike, and since I'm dreaming, I might 
> as well dream. 
>
> I want a Rivendell bike that I can use for touring, don't want to pay for 
> a full custom job, and I want center-pull braze-ons (I am flexible in 
> real-life, but since this is a dream...indulge me)
>
> Riv can affordably add Centerpull mounts to the AHH, but that's it. Great! 
> Problem solved. But...Riv says the AHH isn't suitable for "self supported 
> long tours." Does anyone know why? I want a bike that I could, someday, 
> ride across the country, or put a baby in a seat on the back, or something 
> like that. I want to carry 30-40 pounds, not 40-60. I weigh 180. 
>
> Has anyone toured with their AHH, or know what its capable of carrying, or 
> know why Riv has relatively stringent limits on its carrying capacity?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Hunter "wants to be a iRBW Owners' Bunch member but is really only an iBob 
> member" Ellis
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[RBW] Ohio to Erie Trail trip

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After experiencing many of the Mid-Atlantic rail trails and towpaths, I 
took the Sam touring bike for a 365-mile, 5-day self-supported trip from 
the top to the bottom of Ohio using the *Ohio to Erie Trail*, which links 
16 trails of all types and surfaces linked with urban and rural road 
sections (including Amish country) through 15 counties and 41 
municipalities. Temps ranged from the high-60's to around 100 degrees! 
Challenging, but I had the great pathfinding skills of friend, Dan WIdner, 
who did most of the planning and mapping. This was a great way to see the 
midwest! What a great resource for that state! 

*https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157669855129132*

Paul Germain

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[RBW] FS - Nitto lugged stem

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Nitto lugged stem in great condition. 26mm x 100mm, $120, shipped free 
CONUS. As seen on the Riv site for $228:* 
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/st3.htm 
 *Kindly reply off-list.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

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[RBW] Re: FS - New Conti Crossride tires

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Bump! I'll take $38 for the two, shipped free CONUS, USPS Flat Rate 
Priority. Please reply off-list.

On Wednesday, March 30, 2016 at 10:40:11 AM UTC-4, Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
> These were mounted but not ridden. 700c x 42mm. $30 each on the Rivendell 
> site:
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/t109c.htm
> Asking $48, shipped free, CONUS, USPS Flat Rate Priority box. Please reply 
> off list.
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
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[RBW] FS - New Conti Crossride tires

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These were mounted but not ridden. 700c x 42mm. $30 each on the Rivendell 
site:
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/t109c.htm
Asking $48, shipped free, CONUS, USPS Flat Rate Priority box. Please reply 
off list.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

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[RBW] Re: FS - Suntour Command Shifters

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The Suntour Command Shifters have been sold. Many thanks.

Paul Germain


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[RBW] FS - Suntour Command Shifters

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I purchased these Suntour Accushift Plus Command Shifters in 1992 for a 
Bontrager CX bike with original WTB Dirt Drops. I used them (and liked 
them) for a year before moving to Suntour bar cons. They are in good 
condition, 5-6-7 speed and indexed or friction and are the equivalent of 
Superbe Pro / XC Pro. Model(s) SL-CD01-R7 & SL-CD01-L. They are seen here 
on the vintage cycling database VeloBase,com:
*http://www.velobase.com/velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=5d38a838-522e-46ab-9842-72828a27501a=104*
I have 4 images in a Flickr album:
*https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157665271667132*
I'm not really sure what these are worth but have seen them on flea-bay 
used for $90 and NOS for as much as $220! If a list member can put them to 
use, I'll forward them for $60.00, which includes $6.80 for a USPS Priority 
Flat Rate box. PayPal preferred. Contact me off-list if you will. Thanks.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

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[RBW] Re: FS - 4 Biopace rings

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The Biopace rings are taken, pending payment. Thanks Tino.

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[RBW] FS - 4 Biopace rings

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I've pulled 4 Shimano 110 BCD Biopace rings from the parts bin and cleaned 
them up for you die-hards. (Two) 46T; one, a Biopace-HP; one a Biopace II; 
a 36T middle; a 26T inner. All used and in good condition, except for the 
middle ring, which has shark-teeth and not likely good to go.

*https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/25187002740/in/dateposted-public/*

$25, which includes $6.45 for a USPS Flat Rate envelope. PayPal or check. 
Respond off-list to keep things uncluttered please.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

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[RBW] Re: FS - Nitto 32F mini front rack

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Sale pending. Thanks.

Paul Germain

On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 5:17:02 PM UTC-5, Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
> Another part from my recent frame set sale:
> *http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r2.htm 
> *
> $140 at Rivendell, asking $95, plus shipping. Paypal or check.
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
>
>

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[RBW] FS - Nitto 32F mini front rack

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Another part from my recent frame set sale:
*http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r2.htm*
$140 at Rivendell, asking $95, plus shipping. Paypal or check.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.


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[RBW] Re: FS - Nitto lugged stem, handlebars, etc.

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Sorry. My bad: the Nitto Noodles are 42cm:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/24613998873/in/album-72157660981689094/

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 6:32:20 PM UTC-5, Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
> Left over from a recent frameset sale: bars, levers, stem as follows:
>
> Nitto lugged stem, 26mm x 100mm, $130, shipped free CONUS.
> (As seen on the Rivendell site: *http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/st3.htm 
> * )
>
> Nitto 41cm Noodle bars, $48, shipped free CONUS.
> (As seen on the Rivendell site: *http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb1.htm 
> * )
>
> All can be viewed in this Flickr album:
> *https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157660981689094 
> *
>
> Thanks for looking. If you'd like to make an offer on the entire group 
> before I disassemble, contact me off list please.
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS - Nitto lugged stem, handlebars, etc.

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Both sets of brake levers are spoken for, pending payment. Lugged stem and 
Noodles available. Thanks.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 6:32:20 PM UTC-5, Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
> Left over from a recent frameset sale: bars, levers, stem as follows:
>
> Nitto lugged stem, 26mm x 100mm, $130, shipped free CONUS.
> (As seen on the Rivendell site: *http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/st3.htm 
> * )
>
> Shimano BR400 brake levers, $20, shipped free CONUS.
> (As seen on Universal: 
> *https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=6373=669
>  
> *
>  )
>
> Soma Interrupter levers, $18, shipped free CONUS.
> (As seen on Universal: 
> *https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=22804 
> * )
>
> Nitto 41cm Noodle bars, $48, shipped free CONUS.
> (As seen on the Rivendell site: *http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb1.htm 
> * )
>
> All can be viewed in this Flickr album:
> *https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157660981689094 
> *
>
> Thanks for looking. If you'd like to make an offer on the entire group 
> before I disassemble, contact me off list please.
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>

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[RBW] FS - Nitto lugged stem, handlebars, etc.

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Left over from a recent frameset sale: bars, levers, stem as follows:

Nitto lugged stem, 26mm x 100mm, $130, shipped free CONUS.
(As seen on the Rivendell site: *http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/st3.htm* )

Shimano BR400 brake levers, $20, shipped free CONUS.
(As seen on Universal: 
*https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=6373=669*
 )

Soma Interrupter levers, $18, shipped free CONUS.
(As seen on Universal: 
*https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=22804* )

Nitto 41cm Noodle bars, $48, shipped free CONUS.
(As seen on the Rivendell site: *http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb1.htm* )

All can be viewed in this Flickr album:
*https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157660981689094*

Thanks for looking. If you'd like to make an offer on the entire group 
before I disassemble, contact me off list please.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

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[RBW] Re: Santa Barbara Mini Tour Ride Report.

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Always great to see you, your adventures and that wonderful looking Hilsen, 
Hugh! Since Bro-in-law, Ian had to move back to the east coast, I will miss 
seeing you guys at the Strada Rossa in 2016.

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 1:45:03 PM UTC-5, Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
> No Strava or mapmyride but this did happen.
>
> Here 
>
> Tail Winds,
>
> ~Hugh
>

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[RBW] Re: Front Rack Advice

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Michael,
This is probably repeating much of what has been said here, but I've had 
experience with two setups. I found that the small Ortlieb Front Rollers 
fit nicely on the lower rail of the Nitto Big Rack and cleared the 
canti-brakes well, too:

*https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/17362715074/in/album-72157652921196589/*

I've since bought a new Sam and mounted the new HAR rack. Along with a mini 
front rack & basket, things are working out well. The front bags sit low 
enough that, in warm weather, I prefer to ride two panniers up front, none 
on the back, just the tent on top of the rear Big Rack:

*https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/24287298002/in/album-72157663395643192/*

Paul Germain
Virginia

On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 11:28:57 PM UTC-5, Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
> I'm looking for the group's advice on the best front rack set-up for my 
> Sam Hillborne. What I currently have is the Nitto Big Front Rack with a 
> medium Wald Basket on top. I really like this general set-up, the front 
> basket gets daily use. I want to be able to mount front panniers 
> occasionally, but am finding that the Swift Panniers that I have aren't 
> able to mount low enough to clear the bottom of the basket. The 
> wide-profile cantilevers that I have are interfering with the panniers as 
> well.
>
> I'm wondering what other people have used for front racks on their bikes 
> to accommodate a front basket on top and front panniers. I was thinking a 
> Marks's Rack and a separate tubus front rack, but was finding that the 
> Marks rack wasn't stable enough. Also, it seems to me like the eyelets on 
> the front fork of the Hillborne are a little higher on the fork than 
> standard mid-fork eyelets and this may interfere with the mounting of 
> low-rider front racks, I could be wrong though.
>
> Thanks for any thoughts you have!
>
> Mike
> Seattle
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Segwaying from Garbage Pail Bike thread: pros and cons of CF and Steel?

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Scott, if you do decide to have Dave do the work for you, you can't go 
wrong, IMHO. My Ellis SS: 
http://www.cyclofiend.com/ssg/2010/ssg298-paulgermain0510.htm

Paul Germain

On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 7:14:04 PM UTC-5, Scott G. wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 19, 2016 at 7:34:00 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>>
>> Scott: do you own a  ?
>>
>
> No, just seen them.
>
> I own a Chris Kvale, next bike will be by Dave Wages.
>

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[RBW] New Flickr group

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Enlisting those with interesting "Cycles & VW Beetles" images for a new 
Flickr group:
https://www.flickr.com/groups/2903365@N24/

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

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