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Re: [RBW] Orthos

2024-09-20 Thread Andrew Joseph

I love the downtube shifters Brent!Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 20, 2024, at 6:16 PM, Brent Knepper wrote:+1 on how nice that silverSammer looks! excellent monochrome skills+1 also on orthos with a single-bolt 25.4 stem not slipping ◡̈ mine are on a 130 ITM stem, I bunnyhop up curbs and noodle around on rooty trails (although these bars noodle around on any surface) without a slip- no torque wrench just the usual 6mm allen key tightening amount I'd do on any nitto stem-Brent in N(oodle)YOn Friday, September 20, 2024 at 6:35:31 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:Just to re-comment- because I like looking at this bike: in all honestly I haven't given much attention to Ortho bars in the past as I find them a bit overwhelming on most builds in terms of a visual focus as they are so large. In this case I feel as if they are made for the bike and absolutely perfect proportionally and fit the build to a T. Have you had a chance to take it for a ride? On Friday, September 20, 2024 at 2:30:34 PM UTC-7 Danny wrote:Great looking build!On Friday, September 20, 2024 at 3:11:00 PM UTC-5 drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote:Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 14, 2024, at 10:20 AM, Eliot Balogh <eliot...@gmail.com> wrote:Wow. What a stunning build. I’m rebuilding a Ram as a roadish bike and this is making me jealous lol. EliotOn Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 6:33 AM Andrew Joseph <drew.jo...@gmail.com> wrote:Thank you both!Truly appreciate the responses. Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 14, 2024, at 6:35 AM, David Ross <dros...@gmail.com> wrote:I’d also add that the guy who designed the Orthos uses a 25.4 single bolt stem on the Orthos even though they are 26mm. I think he actually designed them to work this way. Personally, I don’t know enough about engineering or metallurgy to know if this is a good or bad idea, so please don’t think I’m advising you to do this. On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 5:05 PM Andrew Joseph <drew.jo...@gmail.com> wrote:Bars slippage reports came in at an interesting point for me.

What was the consensus on getting them to stay put?

The Sam rebuild is almost there. Orthos will be angle down slightly more, bar tape and need longer dynamo wires for the Pass and Stow….

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Re: [RBW] Orthos

2024-09-20 Thread Andrew Joseph

Thank you for the kind words everyone.Yes, managed a short test ride this evening! Initial thoughts…they offer a lot more control and compliance than they look like they would. I’ve really almost exclusively run drops for many years, but I must agree with Mackenzy.I think (for me) these bars pair very well with the Sam.Cheers,DrewSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 20, 2024, at 6:16 PM, Brent Knepper wrote:+1 on how nice that silverSammer looks! excellent monochrome skills+1 also on orthos with a single-bolt 25.4 stem not slipping ◡̈ mine are on a 130 ITM stem, I bunnyhop up curbs and noodle around on rooty trails (although these bars noodle around on any surface) without a slip- no torque wrench just the usual 6mm allen key tightening amount I'd do on any nitto stem-Brent in N(oodle)YOn Friday, September 20, 2024 at 6:35:31 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:Just to re-comment- because I like looking at this bike: in all honestly I haven't given much attention to Ortho bars in the past as I find them a bit overwhelming on most builds in terms of a visual focus as they are so large. In this case I feel as if they are made for the bike and absolutely perfect proportionally and fit the build to a T. Have you had a chance to take it for a ride? On Friday, September 20, 2024 at 2:30:34 PM UTC-7 Danny wrote:Great looking build!On Friday, September 20, 2024 at 3:11:00 PM UTC-5 drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote:Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 14, 2024, at 10:20 AM, Eliot Balogh <eliot...@gmail.com> wrote:Wow. What a stunning build. I’m rebuilding a Ram as a roadish bike and this is making me jealous lol. EliotOn Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 6:33 AM Andrew Joseph <drew.jo...@gmail.com> wrote:Thank you both!Truly appreciate the responses. Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 14, 2024, at 6:35 AM, David Ross <dros...@gmail.com> wrote:I’d also add that the guy who designed the Orthos uses a 25.4 single bolt stem on the Orthos even though they are 26mm. I think he actually designed them to work this way. Personally, I don’t know enough about engineering or metallurgy to know if this is a good or bad idea, so please don’t think I’m advising you to do this. On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 5:05 PM Andrew Joseph <drew.jo...@gmail.com> wrote:Bars slippage reports came in at an interesting point for me.

What was the consensus on getting them to stay put?

The Sam rebuild is almost there. Orthos will be angle down slightly more, bar tape and need longer dynamo wires for the Pass and Stow….

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Sackville Trunksack Large and Small

2024-09-17 Thread Andrew Scherer

Also see these from Lone Peak: 
https://lonepeakpacks.com/product/micro-rack-pack/ 5 colors, about the size 
of the small Trunksack. Other styles available.

Andy Scherer
Manhattan & Woodstock NY
On Tuesday, September 17, 2024 at 1:25:46 PM UTC-4 Nathan Mattia wrote:

> Patrick, this is a REVELATION!  Do they make any other colors?
>
> On Tuesday, September 17, 2024 at 10:32:41 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> This is larger and much cheaper and very well made: 
>> https://carradice.co.uk/products/super-c-rackbag
>>
>> It has a nylon drawstring neck that folds into the main compartment and 
>> that, when extended, allows you to carry as much as a large saddlebag -- 
>> I've carried home some surprisingly large grocery loads in mine.
>>
>> Carradice ship quickly and reliably from the UK.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 9:05 AM Mark V  wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.waxwingbagco.com/store/p70/Waxwing_Trunk_Bag.html
>>>
>>> thinking about one of these. I think - don't hold me to it - Waxwing is 
>>> the Sackville maker. 
>>> I'd like to get one with a NITTO Mark's rack - so my RoadUno can go as 
>>> odd ball and contrarian as possible - iconoclastic! as my friend Joshua 
>>> says!
>>>
>>> ciao!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 15, 2024 at 11:20:08 PM UTC-4 Nathan Mattia wrote:
>>>
 I don’t know if the Home Office is ever going to offer these new again, 
 but I can’t find anything else like them.  

 Anybody have a Large or a Small that they are looking to sell?

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Re: [RBW] Re: “The Art of Taking it Slow” in The New Yorker

2024-09-16 Thread Andrew Scherer

I enjoyed these quotes: 


"It was by far the longest, heaviest bicycle I had ever been on, and it 
moved with a surprising grace." 

"...we crossed into the hills and started up a paved, curving road, toward 
the trail. The ground was littered with sardines..."


Andy

On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 2:30:34 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> Also a nice mention of BBDD, and the Platypi which she was too modest to 
> mention...and I agree with Leah; it was very well-written.
>
>
>
> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 12:49:36 PM UTC-5 Richard Rose wrote:
>
>> Great read. Sadly I currently have a bad cold & it’s a lovely day. So I 
>> am just sitting here - enjoying the veritable bird paradise that is our 
>> property, wishing I was riding my bike. Maybe tomorrow.:)
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2024, at 1:19 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The writer made such gorgeous language out of it. Favorite quotes:
>>
>>
>> “But I felt, instead, a very adult sense of longing—as if I had just 
>> glimpsed, at a deeply inconvenient time, a new and appealing way to live.”
>>
>> “Rivendell’s employees object to descriptions of the company’s following 
>> as cultlike. “The other stuff is the cult,” Keating told me.” 
>>
>> “There was something romantic about the Rivendells. They made the other 
>> bikes on the road look mean.”
>>
>> “The strength and fearlessness of the others filled me with an almost 
>> indescribable envy. What was it like to leave for a long ride at dusk—or 
>> cycle off into the woods with a sleeping bag, a patch kit, and some 
>> groceries—and be reasonably assured you’d have a great night? The world 
>> seemed divided between two types of people: those with a command of the 
>> physical world, and everyone else. The former had confidence, skill, and 
>> know-how; the rest of us had YouTube tutorials on removing anti-theft 
>> skewers.”
>>  
>> This was a gorgeous piece of writing that rightly celebrates a brilliant 
>> man. I’m so happy for him. I’m sure he hates the attention.
>> Leah
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 12:24:46 PM UTC-4 Caroline Golum wrote:
>>
>>> Can confirm the Riv to birding pipeline is real
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 11:32:24 AM UTC-4 ben.r...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 dan!g you beat me to posting this!  its a good read and as a " mid 30s 
 tattooed skater who rides in cut off dickies and vans" I was a little 
 triggered to learn that I'm very "bird watching adjacent". 

 [image: IMG_4584.jpg]

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 Ben "little brother" R

 On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 7:29:21 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

> It’s about Grant, Rivendell, philosophies, …. 
>
> You can read one New Yorker article for free. 
>
> https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/09/23/the-art-of-taking-it-slow
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Re: [RBW] Orthos

2024-09-14 Thread Andrew Joseph

Eliot,Than you. All credit to helpful tips, and components from you, and other members here in the group. So stinking helpful.CheersSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 14, 2024, at 10:20 AM, Eliot Balogh wrote:Wow. What a stunning build. I’m rebuilding a Ram as a roadish bike and this is making me jealous lol. EliotOn Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 6:33 AM Andrew Joseph <drew.joseph@gmail.com> wrote:Thank you both!Truly appreciate the responses. Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 14, 2024, at 6:35 AM, David Ross <dross5...@gmail.com> wrote:I’d also add that the guy who designed the Orthos uses a 25.4 single bolt stem on the Orthos even though they are 26mm. I think he actually designed them to work this way. Personally, I don’t know enough about engineering or metallurgy to know if this is a good or bad idea, so please don’t think I’m advising you to do this. On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 5:05 PM Andrew Joseph <drew.joseph@gmail.com> wrote:Bars slippage reports came in at an interesting point for me.

What was the consensus on getting them to stay put?

The Sam rebuild is almost there. Orthos will be angle down slightly more, bar tape and need longer dynamo wires for the Pass and Stow….

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Re: [RBW] Orthos

2024-09-14 Thread Andrew Joseph

Thank you both!Truly appreciate the responses. Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 14, 2024, at 6:35 AM, David Ross wrote:I’d also add that the guy who designed the Orthos uses a 25.4 single bolt stem on the Orthos even though they are 26mm. I think he actually designed them to work this way. Personally, I don’t know enough about engineering or metallurgy to know if this is a good or bad idea, so please don’t think I’m advising you to do this. On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 5:05 PM Andrew Joseph <drew.joseph@gmail.com> wrote:Bars slippage reports came in at an interesting point for me.

What was the consensus on getting them to stay put?

The Sam rebuild is almost there. Orthos will be angle down slightly more, bar tape and need longer dynamo wires for the Pass and Stow….

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Re: [RBW] Orthos

2024-09-13 Thread Andrew Joseph

Thank you! I’m glad you like my interpretation so far.  Will send the finished project…Noted on the stem. Hopefully, it won’t be an issue.Cheers,DrewSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2024, at 5:48 PM, Mackenzy Albright  wrote:That is a gorgeous bike! I think the vast majority don't have issues with slipping. I wouldn't worry about it UNLESS you have an issue which may be partially riding style and habits...I think the main points from the other thread are to make sure your stem bolt is greased and you use adequate torque to prevent slip but also not so much torque that you over-tighten as it could ovalize the bar since it's thin. On Friday, September 13, 2024 at 3:16:14 PM UTC-7 drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote:Thanks Ryan!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 13, 2024, at 4:27 PM, Ryan Ogilvie <ryan.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> My view is that the single bolt clamps just don’t have a sufficient clamping force to keep the Orthos from slipping. Even if you tighten it so it stays put, you’ve over-torqued the fastener which can lead to bad summer teeth (some’r her, some’r there). A four bolt plate should work, tho.
> 
> 
> Sent from my mobile device.
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>> On Sep 13, 2024, at 5:04 PM, Andrew Joseph <drew.jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Bars slippage reports came in at an interesting point for me.  
>> 
>> What was the consensus on getting them to stay put?  
>> 
>> The Sam rebuild is almost there.  Orthos will be angle down slightly more, bar tape and need longer dynamo wires for the Pass and Stow….
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Re: [RBW] Orthos

2024-09-13 Thread Andrew Joseph

Thanks Ryan!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 13, 2024, at 4:27 PM, Ryan Ogilvie  wrote:
> 
> My view is that the single bolt clamps just don’t have a sufficient clamping 
> force to keep the Orthos from slipping. Even if you tighten it so it stays 
> put, you’ve over-torqued the fastener which can lead to bad summer teeth 
> (some’r her, some’r there). A four bolt plate should work, tho.
> 
> 
> Sent from my mobile device.
> 
>> On Sep 13, 2024, at 5:04 PM, Andrew Joseph  wrote:
>> 
>> Bars slippage reports came in at an interesting point for me.  
>> 
>> What was the consensus on getting them to stay put?  
>> 
>> The Sam rebuild is almost there.  Orthos will be angle down slightly more, 
>> bar tape and need longer dynamo wires for the Pass and Stow….
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Re: [RBW] Roaduno vs. Quickbeam

2024-09-06 Thread Andrew Janjigian

All this love for my Quickbeam is making me want to stick with it!

The QB is a 56 and the Roaduno is a 54.5

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> On Sep 5, 2024, at 4:33 PM, Doug H.  wrote:
> 
> Agree that the Quickbeam is sweet. What size are those bikes?
> Doug
> 
> On Thursday, September 5, 2024 at 3:50:05 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>> I'm a sucker for a level top tube though. That Quickbeam is pretty sweet!
>> 
>> On Thursday, September 5, 2024 at 1:32:56 PM UTC-4 ajanj...@gmail.com <> 
>> wrote:
>>> Neal Learner has a Roaduno in the exact same size as my Quickbeam, and he 
>>> was kind enough to let me take it out for a spin today. In case you were 
>>> curious to see how the two bikes compare in size and shape, here’s a 
>>> picture:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I loved the feel of the Roaduno, particularly in its stability, and the fit 
>>> was just right for me. I was kind of hoping I wouldn’t like it, so I could 
>>> lose my GAS, but it didn’t work. Still not ready to place the order, but 
>>> it’s sitting right there in my Riv shopping cart….
>>> 
>>> Thank you again, Neal! 
>>> 
>>> - A
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] Ron’s Orthos

2024-08-31 Thread Andrew Joseph

Found, thanks everyone!Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 30, 2024, at 3:55 PM, Andrew Joseph wrote:Thanks Eliot!I was too slow on the draw and missed both bars for sale. (I think) I could definitely be wrong. I will dig and try and find that. I haven’t quite mastered navigating this groups search functions.Best,DrewSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 30, 2024, at 3:52 PM, Eliot Balogh wrote:Someone has some on a recent post here. Can’t recall which. Maybe 650b group On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 1:36 PM Andrew Joseph <drew.joseph@gmail.com> wrote:Happy Friday,

Anyone willing to sell their Ron’s Ortho bars?

Silver preferably.

Drew

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Re: [RBW] Ron’s Orthos

2024-08-30 Thread Andrew Joseph

Message sent Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 30, 2024, at 4:22 PM, Danny wrote:Drew, I've got some silver Orthos I'll sell. I rode them only a few miles, they just weren't a good fit for me. $120 + shipping. PM me if interested.DannyMadison, WIOn Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 3:55 PM Andrew Joseph <drew.joseph@gmail.com> wrote:Thanks Eliot!I was too slow on the draw and missed both bars for sale. (I think) I could definitely be wrong. I will dig and try and find that. I haven’t quite mastered navigating this groups search functions.Best,DrewSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 30, 2024, at 3:52 PM, Eliot Balogh <eliotbal...@gmail.com> wrote:Someone has some on a recent post here. Can’t recall which. Maybe 650b group On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 1:36 PM Andrew Joseph <drew.joseph@gmail.com> wrote:Happy Friday,

Anyone willing to sell their Ron’s Ortho bars?

Silver preferably.

Drew

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Re: [RBW] Ron’s Orthos

2024-08-30 Thread Andrew Joseph

Thanks Eliot!I was too slow on the draw and missed both bars for sale. (I think) I could definitely be wrong. I will dig and try and find that. I haven’t quite mastered navigating this groups search functions.Best,DrewSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 30, 2024, at 3:52 PM, Eliot Balogh wrote:Someone has some on a recent post here. Can’t recall which. Maybe 650b group On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 1:36 PM Andrew Joseph <drew.joseph@gmail.com> wrote:Happy Friday,

Anyone willing to sell their Ron’s Ortho bars?

Silver preferably.

Drew

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[RBW] Ron’s Orthos

2024-08-30 Thread Andrew Joseph

Happy Friday,

Anyone willing to sell their Ron’s Ortho bars?

Silver preferably.

R,

Drew

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Re: [RBW] NBD: Sheldon's Ram!

2024-08-28 Thread Andrew Janjigian

Amazing! Harris was one of my local bike shops (RIP), and when I first got into 
both fixed-gear and Rivendell bikes, I bugged Sheldon for advice many times. 
I’m so glad his web pages are still extant.

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> On Aug 28, 2024, at 4:02 PM, Huston  wrote:
> 
> Nick,
> 
> An excellent score indeed.  The provenance is superb.  Plus the color, 
> centerpull/sidepull brake combo, and excellent fender lines.  And that gear 
> chart 
> 
> Huston
> Lexington, KY
> 
> On Tuesday, August 27, 2024 at 10:13:38 AM UTC-4 Nick Shoemaker wrote:
>> If ya know, ya know
>> 
>> Sheldon was a huge influence in my early descent into bike obsession, and I 
>> doubt I would be here today as a competent mechanic, former wheelbuilder, 
>> fixie-converter, Riv-rider, etc, etc. without his incomparable contributions 
>> to the bicycle community. Sheldon made the world a better place, plain and 
>> simple!
>> 
>> So imagine my delight when his beautiful orange Ram showed up on ebay a 
>> couple of months ago and I somehow managed to win the auction! The bike is 
>> currently an impeccable time capsule, with everything but the tires matching 
>> the build description on his website. I intend to ride it, and will no doubt 
>> tinker (Sheldon-style) to try out a few different iterations for fun (fixie? 
>> 650b conversion? upright/swept-back?). Anyhow, enjoy a few pictures to revel 
>> in the nostalgia:
>> 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jn1fwQzemxZKRxt88
>> 
>> 
>> PS: I'm sticking with the Bio-Pace...  :)
> 
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[RBW] Parts FS

2024-08-27 Thread Andrew Joseph

Berthoud Galibier Ti with broken in Cork top, plus new replacement top in 
Black. Randi Jo Fabrication cover. - $275 shipped

https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/saddles/berthoud-narrow-saddle/

Rene Herse tires, like new - Snoqualmie Pass 700 x 44, Endurance casing. - $120 
for the pair shipped

Crust Shaka Bars, 560, 31.8 clamp. - $85 shipped 

VO 80, 31.8 Quill Stem - $60 Shipped 

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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam improvement ideas

2024-08-26 Thread Andrew Janjigian

thanks, Patrick! lots to think about. I am tempted by a new frame, though I 
am leaning toward trying to get the QB working the way it once did. If not, 
then I'll have no excuse!

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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam improvement ideas

2024-08-26 Thread Andrew Janjigian

I don't have any currently built out, but I have ridden with upright bars 
exclusively for the last 20 years, and it's only recently that I've had 
this problem (even my QB used to ride fine!)

On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 4:04:34 PM UTC-4 CMR wrote:

> Boscos on a quickbeam might come back too far, especially with an 11cm 
> stem. I think an albatross on a dirt drop would be too close for me too 
> honestly, even on a big bike.
>
> Brooks can be slippery, which is a good and a bad thing. A cheap 
> experiment might be a non-leather saddle further back on the rails.
>
> Do you have any other bikes with upright bars that fit well?
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 12:48:38 PM UTC-7 ajanj...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Keith - 
>>
>> Thanks. I was under the impression that one way to get less-squirrelly 
>> turning was to extend the length of the stem, so that it requires more 
>> rotation to turn the wheel. The reason I considered pairing it with Boscos 
>> was to bring the ends of the bars backwards at the same time.
>>
>> - Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 21, 2024, at 3:08 PM, iamkeith  wrote:
>>
>> (I wasn't clear, but my QB is the same 60cm size as my other Riv bikes.)
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 1:06:43 PM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> Well, a longer stem normally only adds stability because it puts your 
>>> weight further forward.  If you use a bar where the grip area is further 
>>> back than you were before  -  despite having a longer stem - it's not going 
>>> to do what you want.  
>>>
>>> I have been wrestling with how to set up my quickbeam for decades.  I 
>>> don't want to get rid of it, because it has some sort of magic ride quality 
>>> that not even my other Rivendells have.  I just want it set up in a way 
>>> that I'll be inclined to use it more.   Like you, I "barely" clear the top 
>>> tube.  I wouldn't even consider another size though. That clearance issue 
>>> is mostly because of a higher bottom bracket - to accommodate somebody who 
>>> wantes to ride fixed gear - not the rest of the frame size.   Compared to 
>>> my 60 Ram, my 60 AR and my 60 Saluki - all from the same general era - it 
>>> is still ideally sized other than that. It does have a longer top tube than 
>>> the ohterwise-similar-geometry Ram, and I think that's where some of the 
>>> magic comes from.  It's closer to the AR and Saluki in that dimension.
>>>
>>> I do think the frame works best with a bit of forward lean, rather than 
>>> upright, posture.   I'm kind of over drop bars though, so I'm considering 
>>> Chocos or a "three-speed" type bar.  Both of those are similar to 
>>> moustache/albastache bars, except for having the brakes on the rear part of 
>>> the bar.   If those fail, then a moustache is always my default choice, and 
>>> probably perfectly suited to the bike.  If you haven't given them a fair 
>>> try - experimenting with differnet stems - I'd suggest that first.   The 
>>> only hesitation in my own case is that I already have them on so many bikes 
>>> and want some variety.
>>> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 12:43:51 PM UTC-6 ajanj...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So as I mentioned, I am considering a Roaduno, but since I’d love not 
>>>> to spend the $$$ on a new frame, I’m considering just fixing some of the 
>>>> issues I am having with my Quickbeam instead. Right now it is set up with 
>>>> a 
>>>> short Dirt Drop and albatross bars. 
>>>>
>>>> Aside from the gnarly aesthetics of the well-loved frame, my main 
>>>> issues with it are:
>>>>
>>>> 1. A slightly too-big frame. It’s a 56, and my PBH is 83cm. The 
>>>> standover is close, but I do just clear the top bar with my feet on the 
>>>> ground. Worse is that I think the top bar is a little long, so I’m 
>>>> constantly sliding forward in the seat to reach the bars (the seat, a B68, 
>>>> is as far forward on the post as possible). 
>>>>
>>>> 2. Squirrely steering.
>>>>
>>>> What do people think about the idea of replacing the Albatross bars 
>>>> with Boscos and the Dirt Drop with a 110mm Faceplater, with the idea being 
>>>> that it would bring the bars both up and back to keep me in the seat, and 
>>>> the longer stem would provide more steering stability? I figure I can 
>>>&

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam improvement ideas

2024-08-26 Thread Andrew Janjigian

I've been riding my QB with an upright posture for forever, though it's 
more of a slight lean rather than a full seated upright, using albatross 
bars. But recently I've had a back issue that is exacerbated by exactly 
this sort of position, so ideally whatever modifications I make will allow 
both positions. 

I was under the impression that the longer the stem, the more you needed to 
turn the bars to get the the wheel to turn. But I can see that forcing a 
forward lean would also make the front end more stable in the general 
sense. I don't ride hands-off, but it certainly *used* to feel like I could 
if I wanted to. I'm going to try replacing the headset first, to see if 
that might be part of the problem. When I tighten it beyond the point that 
it moves freely, it barely moves, but as soon as I back off from that 
point, it seems very loose; it seems to have less play than it used to.

On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 3:06:43 PM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote:

> Well, a longer stem normally only adds stability because it puts your 
> weight further forward.  If you use a bar where the grip area is further 
> back than you were before  -  despite having a longer stem - it's not going 
> to do what you want.  
>
> I have been wrestling with how to set up my quickbeam for decades.  I 
> don't want to get rid of it, because it has some sort of magic ride quality 
> that not even my other Rivendells have.  I just want it set up in a way 
> that I'll be inclined to use it more.   Like you, I "barely" clear the top 
> tube.  I wouldn't even consider another size though. That clearance issue 
> is mostly because of a higher bottom bracket - to accommodate somebody who 
> wantes to ride fixed gear - not the rest of the frame size.   Compared to 
> my 60 Ram, my 60 AR and my 60 Saluki - all from the same general era - it 
> is still ideally sized other than that. It does have a longer top tube than 
> the ohterwise-similar-geometry Ram, and I think that's where some of the 
> magic comes from.  It's closer to the AR and Saluki in that dimension.
>
> I do think the frame works best with a bit of forward lean, rather than 
> upright, posture.   I'm kind of over drop bars though, so I'm considering 
> Chocos or a "three-speed" type bar.  Both of those are similar to 
> moustache/albastache bars, except for having the brakes on the rear part of 
> the bar.   If those fail, then a moustache is always my default choice, and 
> probably perfectly suited to the bike.  If you haven't given them a fair 
> try - experimenting with differnet stems - I'd suggest that first.   The 
> only hesitation in my own case is that I already have them on so many bikes 
> and want some variety.
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 12:43:51 PM UTC-6 ajanj...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> So as I mentioned, I am considering a Roaduno, but since I’d love not to 
>> spend the $$$ on a new frame, I’m considering just fixing some of the 
>> issues I am having with my Quickbeam instead. Right now it is set up with a 
>> short Dirt Drop and albatross bars. 
>>
>> Aside from the gnarly aesthetics of the well-loved frame, my main issues 
>> with it are:
>>
>> 1. A slightly too-big frame. It’s a 56, and my PBH is 83cm. The standover 
>> is close, but I do just clear the top bar with my feet on the ground. Worse 
>> is that I think the top bar is a little long, so I’m constantly sliding 
>> forward in the seat to reach the bars (the seat, a B68, is as far forward 
>> on the post as possible). 
>>
>> 2. Squirrely steering.
>>
>> What do people think about the idea of replacing the Albatross bars with 
>> Boscos and the Dirt Drop with a 110mm Faceplater, with the idea being that 
>> it would bring the bars both up and back to keep me in the seat, and the 
>> longer stem would provide more steering stability? I figure I can always 
>> trim the bars down if they come back too far.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> ––
>> *Andrew Janjigian*
>> website: www.wordloaf.org
>> newsletter: newsletter.wordloaf.org
>> book: bread baker’s pocket companion 
>> <https://shop.andrewjanjigian.com/product/the-bread-baker-s-pocket-companion>
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>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Do you ride with fenders?

2024-08-26 Thread Andrew Janjigian

I had fenders on my Quickbeam for years, but they were just one more set of 
things that required maintenance and adjustment so I ditched them. I ride fixed 
because I want a bike that is simple to maintain and quiet, and fenders went 
against that. I ride in the rain if need be, and just wear gear or get wet & 
dirty. (I mostly use my bike as a commuter or for errands, and if I do a long 
ride, it won’t be when the sun isn’t shining.)

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> On Aug 26, 2024, at 2:14 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
> 
> Used to put on fenders mainly because I liked the looks but since I only ride 
> for enjoyment and not commuting I am never out in the rain so I am now fender 
> free on everything. Just makes everything easier since I don't need them.
> 
> On Monday, August 26, 2024 at 1:49:58 PM UTC-4 Will Boericke wrote:
>> Commuters: yes.  All other bikes - race blades or equivalent.
>> 
>> Will near Boston
>> On Monday, August 26, 2024 at 7:54:03 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>>> Whoops, dog nosed elbow sent before all done...
>>> 
>>> What and why fenders all the time on my bikes. 
>>> 
>>> Andy Cheatham 
>>> Pittsburgh
>>> On Monday, August 26, 2024 at 7:52:08 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sunday, August 25, 2024 at 4:08:10 PM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Most of my road-ish bikes have permantly-mounted fenders, and  some of my 
>>>>> mountain-ish bikes do too.  Where I live and ride, in the WY/MT/ID/UT 
>>>>> area, I can really only ride about 6 mos a year at best (except for fat 
>>>>> bikes) and it's pretty arid during those months.  However I only ride for 
>>>>> fun, when I get a chance, on weekends and evenings mostly.  Those 
>>>>> opportunities inevitably coincide with the few times it DOES  rain - 
>>>>> often unexpectedly in the middle of a ride.  So fenders are the thing 
>>>>> that keeps e from becoming a fair-weather pansy.  Plus  they protect the 
>>>>> bike investment.
>>>>> 
>>>>> All that said, I'd be inclined to take some cheap clip-on fenders if I 
>>>>> was traveling.  Fenders - even goof, plastic SKS type - tend to get beat 
>>>>> up and warped when packing them. 
>>>>> On Sunday, August 25, 2024 at 1:30:59 PM UTC-6 RichS wrote:
>>>>>> Joining the fender parade. Years ago I was influenced by Jan Heine's 
>>>>>> endorsement of fenders plus the French and British tradition of using 
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>> Currently using Berthoud's but have been pleased with VO and SKS models. 
>>>>>> If I get tired of the smooth Berthoud's I have some Honjo fluted gems 
>>>>>> waiting to be put into use. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Honestly though, I have seen some bikes sans fenders that appeal to me 
>>>>>> looking just right with their clean, bare bones, wispy appearance.
>>>>>> Jock's Paramount perhaps?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Rich in ATL 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Saturday, August 24, 2024 at 10:40:37 PM UTC-4 Nick A. wrote:
>>>>>>> I have 4 bicycles, and the only one with fenders is my "around town" 
>>>>>>> basket bike. My Atlantis is fender-free. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 24, 2024 at 7:24:02 PM UTC-4 LeRoy wrote:
>>>>>>>> I ride with all the fenders, all the time, on all my bike (singular). 
>>>>>>>> Unlike many on this forum, it's easier for me to say and do that since 
>>>>>>>> I only have one bike - a Clem 59H. And, in the interests of accuracy 
>>>>>>>> in counting, I'm not including my 1970s road bike because it simply 
>>>>>>>> decorates a wall as "hanging art" in the garage.
>>>>>>>> That being said, I have considered removing the fenders from 
>>>>>>>> time-to-time. But it's really simpler to keep them in

[RBW] WTT/WTB Bosco bars CroMo

2024-08-26 Thread Andrew Janjigian

Anyone have a set of CroMo Boscos they don’t need? I want to try them out on my 
Quickbeam and would be happy with a used set, just in case they are too 
tall/swept back. I need the CroMo ones in case I need to cut them down, since I 
use bar-end levers. I have an assortment of other bars not in use, including 
albatross and moustache ones I can offer in trade + cash, or just pay cash. 

Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam improvement ideas

2024-08-26 Thread Andrew Janjigian

Thanks, John. Will try this. I am going to replace the bearings either way as 
part of a full refresh of the bike. First I have to saw off the stem and 
dissolve the remainder, so I can get the fork off the bike. 

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> On Aug 25, 2024, at 2:57 PM, JohnS  wrote:
> 
> My experience to test the status of the headset, is to remove the front 
> wheel, stem/handle bar, front brake and any other accessories like a rack or 
> fenders. Then turning the fork is only the weight of the fork nothing else to 
> throw it off. I'm usually amazed at how crappy the headset can feel when I do 
> that, even though it felt fine when all the other components where there.
> 
> JohnS
> 
> 
> On Sunday, August 25, 2024 at 8:29:22 AM UTC-4 ajanj...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Made some adjustments last night and gave it a long-ish ride, to see if I 
>> can pinpoint the issues. I moved the seat back a bit and lowered it 
>> slightly, and staying seated was a little easier, so perhaps it was on the 
>> high side. 
>> 
>> As for the twitchiness, which seems new, I am wondering if I need to replace 
>> the bearings on my headset. While it is a little wobbly generally, where it 
>> is most noticeable is if I hit a bump while the wheel is turned, it seems to 
>> “jump” a long way in the direction of the turn, like it is notched. When not 
>> moving, the headset seems smooth, so I’m not sure it is a bearing issue or 
>> something not headset related. 
>> 
>>> On Aug 21, 2024, at 4:04 PM, CMR > wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> Boscos on a quickbeam might come back too far, especially with an 11cm 
>>> stem. I think an albatross on a dirt drop would be too close for me too 
>>> honestly, even on a big bike.
>>> 
>>> Brooks can be slippery, which is a good and a bad thing. A cheap experiment 
>>> might be a non-leather saddle further back on the rails.
>>> 
>>> Do you have any other bikes with upright bars that fit well?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 12:48:38 PM UTC-7 ajanj...@gmail.com <> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Keith - 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks. I was under the impression that one way to get less-squirrelly 
>>>> turning was to extend the length of the stem, so that it requires more 
>>>> rotation to turn the wheel. The reason I considered pairing it with Boscos 
>>>> was to bring the ends of the bars backwards at the same time.
>>>> 
>>>> - Andrew
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 21, 2024, at 3:08 PM, iamkeith > wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> (I wasn't clear, but my QB is the same 60cm size as my other Riv bikes.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 1:06:43 PM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>>>>>> Well, a longer stem normally only adds stability because it puts your 
>>>>>> weight further forward.  If you use a bar where the grip area is further 
>>>>>> back than you were before  -  despite having a longer stem - it's not 
>>>>>> going to do what you want.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have been wrestling with how to set up my quickbeam for decades.  I 
>>>>>> don't want to get rid of it, because it has some sort of magic ride 
>>>>>> quality that not even my other Rivendells have.  I just want it set up 
>>>>>> in a way that I'll be inclined to use it more.   Like you, I "barely" 
>>>>>> clear the top tube.  I wouldn't even consider another size though. That 
>>>>>> clearance issue is mostly because of a higher bottom bracket - to 
>>>>>> accommodate somebody who wantes to ride fixed gear - not the rest of the 
>>>>>> frame size.   Compared to my 60 Ram, my 60 AR and my 60 Saluki - all 
>>>>>> from the same general era - it is still ideally sized other than that. 
>>>>>> It does have a longer top tube than the ohterwise-similar-geometry Ram, 
>>>>>> and I think that's where some of the magic comes from.

Re: [RBW] Quickbeam improvement ideas

2024-08-25 Thread Andrew Janjigian

Made some adjustments last night and gave it a long-ish ride, to see if I can 
pinpoint the issues. I moved the seat back a bit and lowered it slightly, and 
staying seated was a little easier, so perhaps it was on the high side. 

As for the twitchiness, which seems new, I am wondering if I need to replace 
the bearings on my headset. While it is a little wobbly generally, where it is 
most noticeable is if I hit a bump while the wheel is turned, it seems to 
“jump” a long way in the direction of the turn, like it is notched. When not 
moving, the headset seems smooth, so I’m not sure it is a bearing issue or 
something not headset related. 


> On Aug 21, 2024, at 4:04 PM, CMR  wrote:
> 
> Boscos on a quickbeam might come back too far, especially with an 11cm stem. 
> I think an albatross on a dirt drop would be too close for me too honestly, 
> even on a big bike.
> 
> Brooks can be slippery, which is a good and a bad thing. A cheap experiment 
> might be a non-leather saddle further back on the rails.
> 
> Do you have any other bikes with upright bars that fit well?
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 12:48:38 PM UTC-7 ajanj...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Keith - 
>> 
>> Thanks. I was under the impression that one way to get less-squirrelly 
>> turning was to extend the length of the stem, so that it requires more 
>> rotation to turn the wheel. The reason I considered pairing it with Boscos 
>> was to bring the ends of the bars backwards at the same time.
>> 
>> - Andrew
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 21, 2024, at 3:08 PM, iamkeith > wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> (I wasn't clear, but my QB is the same 60cm size as my other Riv bikes.)
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 1:06:43 PM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>>>> Well, a longer stem normally only adds stability because it puts your 
>>>> weight further forward.  If you use a bar where the grip area is further 
>>>> back than you were before  -  despite having a longer stem - it's not 
>>>> going to do what you want.  
>>>> 
>>>> I have been wrestling with how to set up my quickbeam for decades.  I 
>>>> don't want to get rid of it, because it has some sort of magic ride 
>>>> quality that not even my other Rivendells have.  I just want it set up in 
>>>> a way that I'll be inclined to use it more.   Like you, I "barely" clear 
>>>> the top tube.  I wouldn't even consider another size though. That 
>>>> clearance issue is mostly because of a higher bottom bracket - to 
>>>> accommodate somebody who wantes to ride fixed gear - not the rest of the 
>>>> frame size.   Compared to my 60 Ram, my 60 AR and my 60 Saluki - all from 
>>>> the same general era - it is still ideally sized other than that. It does 
>>>> have a longer top tube than the ohterwise-similar-geometry Ram, and I 
>>>> think that's where some of the magic comes from.  It's closer to the AR 
>>>> and Saluki in that dimension.
>>>> 
>>>> I do think the frame works best with a bit of forward lean, rather than 
>>>> upright, posture.   I'm kind of over drop bars though, so I'm considering 
>>>> Chocos or a "three-speed" type bar.  Both of those are similar to 
>>>> moustache/albastache bars, except for having the brakes on the rear part 
>>>> of the bar.   If those fail, then a moustache is always my default choice, 
>>>> and probably perfectly suited to the bike.  If you haven't given them a 
>>>> fair try - experimenting with differnet stems - I'd suggest that first.   
>>>> The only hesitation in my own case is that I already have them on so many 
>>>> bikes and want some variety.
>>>> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 12:43:51 PM UTC-6 ajanj...@gmail.com <> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> So as I mentioned, I am considering a Roaduno, but since I’d love not to 
>>>>> spend the $$$ on a new frame, I’m considering just fixing some of the 
>>>>> issues I am having with my Quickbeam instead. Right now it is set up with 
>>>>> a short Dirt Drop and albatross bars. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Aside from the gnarly aesthetics of the well-loved frame, my main issues 
>>>>> with it are:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. A slightly too-big frame. It’s a 56, and my PBH is 83cm. The standover 
>>>>> is close, but I do just clear the top bar with my feet on the ground. 
>>>>> Worse is that

[RBW] Re: 57 Sergio Roadini

2024-08-24 Thread Andrew Joseph

Frameset is sold.  Still have the wheelset.

Thanks everyone.

On Friday, August 23, 2024 at 12:20:24 PM UTC-5 Andrew Joseph wrote:

> Additional photos.
>
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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam improvement ideas

2024-08-23 Thread Andrew Janjigian

Made some adjustments last night and gave it a long-ish ride, to see if I can 
pinpoint the issues. I moved the seat back a bit and lowered it slightly, and 
staying seated was a little easier, so perhaps it was on the high side. 

As for the twitchiness, which seems new, I am wondering if I need to replace 
the bearings on my headset. While it is a little wobbly generally, where it is 
most noticeable is if I hit a bump while the wheel is turned, it seems to 
“jump” a long way in the direction of the turn, like it is notched. When not 
moving, the headset seems smooth, so I’m not sure it is a bearing issue or 
something not headset related. 


> On Aug 21, 2024, at 4:04 PM, CMR  wrote:
> 
> Boscos on a quickbeam might come back too far, especially with an 11cm stem. 
> I think an albatross on a dirt drop would be too close for me too honestly, 
> even on a big bike.
> 
> Brooks can be slippery, which is a good and a bad thing. A cheap experiment 
> might be a non-leather saddle further back on the rails.
> 
> Do you have any other bikes with upright bars that fit well?
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 12:48:38 PM UTC-7 ajanj...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Keith - 
>> 
>> Thanks. I was under the impression that one way to get less-squirrelly 
>> turning was to extend the length of the stem, so that it requires more 
>> rotation to turn the wheel. The reason I considered pairing it with Boscos 
>> was to bring the ends of the bars backwards at the same time.
>> 
>> - Andrew
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 21, 2024, at 3:08 PM, iamkeith > wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> (I wasn't clear, but my QB is the same 60cm size as my other Riv bikes.)
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 1:06:43 PM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>>>> Well, a longer stem normally only adds stability because it puts your 
>>>> weight further forward.  If you use a bar where the grip area is further 
>>>> back than you were before  -  despite having a longer stem - it's not 
>>>> going to do what you want.  
>>>> 
>>>> I have been wrestling with how to set up my quickbeam for decades.  I 
>>>> don't want to get rid of it, because it has some sort of magic ride 
>>>> quality that not even my other Rivendells have.  I just want it set up in 
>>>> a way that I'll be inclined to use it more.   Like you, I "barely" clear 
>>>> the top tube.  I wouldn't even consider another size though. That 
>>>> clearance issue is mostly because of a higher bottom bracket - to 
>>>> accommodate somebody who wantes to ride fixed gear - not the rest of the 
>>>> frame size.   Compared to my 60 Ram, my 60 AR and my 60 Saluki - all from 
>>>> the same general era - it is still ideally sized other than that. It does 
>>>> have a longer top tube than the ohterwise-similar-geometry Ram, and I 
>>>> think that's where some of the magic comes from.  It's closer to the AR 
>>>> and Saluki in that dimension.
>>>> 
>>>> I do think the frame works best with a bit of forward lean, rather than 
>>>> upright, posture.   I'm kind of over drop bars though, so I'm considering 
>>>> Chocos or a "three-speed" type bar.  Both of those are similar to 
>>>> moustache/albastache bars, except for having the brakes on the rear part 
>>>> of the bar.   If those fail, then a moustache is always my default choice, 
>>>> and probably perfectly suited to the bike.  If you haven't given them a 
>>>> fair try - experimenting with differnet stems - I'd suggest that first.   
>>>> The only hesitation in my own case is that I already have them on so many 
>>>> bikes and want some variety.
>>>> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 12:43:51 PM UTC-6 ajanj...@gmail.com <> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> So as I mentioned, I am considering a Roaduno, but since I’d love not to 
>>>>> spend the $$$ on a new frame, I’m considering just fixing some of the 
>>>>> issues I am having with my Quickbeam instead. Right now it is set up with 
>>>>> a short Dirt Drop and albatross bars. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Aside from the gnarly aesthetics of the well-loved frame, my main issues 
>>>>> with it are:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. A slightly too-big frame. It’s a 56, and my PBH is 83cm. The standover 
>>>>> is close, but I do just clear the top bar with my feet on the ground. 
>>>>> Worse is that

Re: [RBW] Quickbeam improvement ideas

2024-08-21 Thread Andrew Janjigian

Keith - 

Thanks. I was under the impression that one way to get less-squirrelly turning 
was to extend the length of the stem, so that it requires more rotation to turn 
the wheel. The reason I considered pairing it with Boscos was to bring the ends 
of the bars backwards at the same time.

- Andrew



> On Aug 21, 2024, at 3:08 PM, iamkeith  wrote:
> 
> (I wasn't clear, but my QB is the same 60cm size as my other Riv bikes.)
> 
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 1:06:43 PM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>> Well, a longer stem normally only adds stability because it puts your weight 
>> further forward.  If you use a bar where the grip area is further back than 
>> you were before  -  despite having a longer stem - it's not going to do what 
>> you want.  
>> 
>> I have been wrestling with how to set up my quickbeam for decades.  I don't 
>> want to get rid of it, because it has some sort of magic ride quality that 
>> not even my other Rivendells have.  I just want it set up in a way that I'll 
>> be inclined to use it more.   Like you, I "barely" clear the top tube.  I 
>> wouldn't even consider another size though. That clearance issue is mostly 
>> because of a higher bottom bracket - to accommodate somebody who wantes to 
>> ride fixed gear - not the rest of the frame size.   Compared to my 60 Ram, 
>> my 60 AR and my 60 Saluki - all from the same general era - it is still 
>> ideally sized other than that. It does have a longer top tube than the 
>> ohterwise-similar-geometry Ram, and I think that's where some of the magic 
>> comes from.  It's closer to the AR and Saluki in that dimension.
>> 
>> I do think the frame works best with a bit of forward lean, rather than 
>> upright, posture.   I'm kind of over drop bars though, so I'm considering 
>> Chocos or a "three-speed" type bar.  Both of those are similar to 
>> moustache/albastache bars, except for having the brakes on the rear part of 
>> the bar.   If those fail, then a moustache is always my default choice, and 
>> probably perfectly suited to the bike.  If you haven't given them a fair try 
>> - experimenting with differnet stems - I'd suggest that first.   The only 
>> hesitation in my own case is that I already have them on so many bikes and 
>> want some variety.
>> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 12:43:51 PM UTC-6 ajanj...@gmail.com <> 
>> wrote:
>>> So as I mentioned, I am considering a Roaduno, but since I’d love not to 
>>> spend the $$$ on a new frame, I’m considering just fixing some of the 
>>> issues I am having with my Quickbeam instead. Right now it is set up with a 
>>> short Dirt Drop and albatross bars. 
>>> 
>>> Aside from the gnarly aesthetics of the well-loved frame, my main issues 
>>> with it are:
>>> 
>>> 1. A slightly too-big frame. It’s a 56, and my PBH is 83cm. The standover 
>>> is close, but I do just clear the top bar with my feet on the ground. Worse 
>>> is that I think the top bar is a little long, so I’m constantly sliding 
>>> forward in the seat to reach the bars (the seat, a B68, is as far forward 
>>> on the post as possible). 
>>> 
>>> 2. Squirrely steering.
>>> 
>>> What do people think about the idea of replacing the Albatross bars with 
>>> Boscos and the Dirt Drop with a 110mm Faceplater, with the idea being that 
>>> it would bring the bars both up and back to keep me in the seat, and the 
>>> longer stem would provide more steering stability? I figure I can always 
>>> trim the bars down if they come back too far.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam improvement ideas

2024-08-21 Thread Andrew Janjigian

Alas, this was not the solution for me. I actually moved the seat forward in 
the hope of avoiding this problem (I do have a slight upward tilt to it). The 
issue is more that I am pulled forward when I am holding the bars in the most 
comfortable position, which lifts me off the back of the seat. It’s entirely 
possible that once I get bars that are better placed, I may also find I can 
keep the seat further back.

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> On Aug 21, 2024, at 3:38 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> 
> " Worse is that I think the top bar is a little long, so I’m constantly 
> sliding forward in the seat to reach the bars (the seat, a B68, is as far 
> forward on the post as possible). "
> 
> This sounds like a conceptual problem.  If you are "sliding forward", that 
> tells me your hips are too far forward so you are falling in that direction.  
> 
> I recommend you try shifting the saddle all the way back and make sure the 
> nose is tilted up a little.  Report back on that zero-dollar experiment, and 
> don't be surprised if it's a lot better.  Shifting a Brooks saddle all the 
> way forward is pretty much guaranteed to make you feel like you are falling 
> forward, because your weight is forward.  I think you'll be more comfortable 
> BALANCED.  Your hips back to counter balance your upper body.   Give that a 
> try
> 
> BL in EC
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 11:43:51 AM UTC-7 ajanj...@gmail.com 
> <http://gmail.com/> wrote:
>> So as I mentioned, I am considering a Roaduno, but since I’d love not to 
>> spend the $$$ on a new frame, I’m considering just fixing some of the issues 
>> I am having with my Quickbeam instead. Right now it is set up with a short 
>> Dirt Drop and albatross bars. 
>> 
>> Aside from the gnarly aesthetics of the well-loved frame, my main issues 
>> with it are:
>> 
>> 1. A slightly too-big frame. It’s a 56, and my PBH is 83cm. The standover is 
>> close, but I do just clear the top bar with my feet on the ground. Worse is 
>> that I think the top bar is a little long, so I’m constantly sliding forward 
>> in the seat to reach the bars (the seat, a B68, is as far forward on the 
>> post as possible). 
>> 
>> 2. Squirrely steering.
>> 
>> What do people think about the idea of replacing the Albatross bars with 
>> Boscos and the Dirt Drop with a 110mm Faceplater, with the idea being that 
>> it would bring the bars both up and back to keep me in the seat, and the 
>> longer stem would provide more steering stability? I figure I can always 
>> trim the bars down if they come back too far.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> ––
>> Andrew Janjigian
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>> newsletter: newsletter.wordloaf.org <http://newsletter.wordloaf.org/>
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[RBW] Quickbeam improvement ideas

2024-08-21 Thread Andrew Janjigian

So as I mentioned, I am considering a Roaduno, but since I’d love not to spend
the $$$ on a new frame, I’m considering just fixing some of the issues I am
having with my Quickbeam instead. Right now it is set up with a short Dirt Drop
and albatross bars.

Aside from the gnarly aesthetics of the well-loved frame, my main issues with
it are:

1. A slightly too-big frame. It’s a 56, and my PBH is 83cm. The standover is
close, but I do just clear the top bar with my feet on the ground. Worse is
that I think the top bar is a little long, so I’m constantly sliding forward in
the seat to reach the bars (the seat, a B68, is as far forward on the post as
possible).

2. Squirrely steering.

What do people think about the idea of replacing the Albatross bars with Boscos
and the Dirt Drop with a 110mm Faceplater, with the idea being that it would
bring the bars both up and back to keep me in the seat, and the longer stem
would provide more steering stability? I figure I can always trim the bars down
if they come back too far.

Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam vs. Roaduno?

2024-08-20 Thread Andrew Janjigian

It’s definitely well-used. It’s my everyday commuter, and sees a lot of action. 
The main reason for the possible repaint is that the stem is seized to the 
fork, and I’ll have to dissolve it out, which may trash the paint job on it. 
(I’m embarrassed to say this is not the first time it’s happened. I leave it 
out in the rain far too often and still haven’t gotten into the habit of 
regreasing it regularly. If I keep it, I won’t be letting that happen again.) 

I bought the frame on eBay in 2008, and it’s one size too big for me, honestly, 
and I think I’d like something a little smaller, but with a longer wheelbase, 
for a smoother ride.

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> On Aug 20, 2024, at 5:01 PM, Minh  wrote:
> 
> fwiw, I ride a QB with an albatross bar pretty similiar to yours Andrew and 
> it works for me, but understand its different preferences for different 
> people.  
> 
> related, question, why does it need a repaint?  just ride hard and put away 
> dirty?  I think its good that its being well used.  my twin green one has 
> plenty of scratches, I don't think i'm ready to commit to a new paint job 
> tho
> 
> On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 3:42:28 PM UTC-4 ajanj...@gmail.com 
> <http://gmail.com/> wrote:
>> Thanks, Bill. I do find I want a little more stability than my Quickbeam 
>> seems to offer, and yeah, I do ride it with albatross bars. Not sure why, 
>> but it used to be the case that I could ride the QB hands-free, but nowadays 
>> it feels more wobbly than it used to. 
>> 
>> Here’s a picture of it back when it was looking pretty:
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 19, 2024, at 2:52 PM, Bill Lindsay > wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> I think they are very different bikes.  Different enough that the smart 
>>> move would be to own one of each.  I'm getting a Roaduno (just got off the 
>>> phone with Rich to try to arrange the pick up, and I have a 58cm Quickbeam. 
>>>  Here's my attitude towards the differences.  
>>> 
>>> The Quickbeam is basically a civilized 1998 single speed road bike.  
>>> Civilized because you can get the bars a little higher than a 1998 road 
>>> racing bike.  Civilized because it takes ~40mm tires and fenders.  In my 
>>> view it is made for drop bars.  Speaking just for myself, there's no way I 
>>> would ever set up a Quickbeam with a swept back handlebar.  The Roaduno is 
>>> a more evolved Rivendell long bike.  It's longer, swoopier and is made for 
>>> swept back bars.  It's going to be more stable and relaxed and less like a 
>>> 1998 road bike.  
>>> 
>>> Both bikes are cool.  Both bikes are fun.  But they are very different from 
>>> each other.  Neither one is an enhancement of the other.  If you love the 
>>> Quickbeam and want a better Quickbeam, stay put.  If you've outgrown your 
>>> Quickbeam, maybe the Roaduno could be a good move.  The most vocal gripe 
>>> about the Roaduno is the side pull brakes.  Many people called that a "deal 
>>> killer" for them.  I think those people wanted a single speed Appaloosa, 
>>> not a single speed Hilsen.  
>>> 
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>> 
>>> On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 11:08:39 AM UTC-7 ajanj...@gmail.com 
>>> <http://gmail.com/> wrote:
>>>> I have a first or second-run green Quickbeam that has been my main ride 
>>>> for the last 15 years. I stopped commuting to work in 2020 and sort of got 
>>>> out of the habit of riding for fun, but I've recently decided I want to 
>>>> get back into it. 
>>>> 
>>>> I've had the frame repainted twice already, and i

[RBW] Quickbeam vs. Roaduno?

2024-08-19 Thread Andrew Janjigian

I have a first or second-run green Quickbeam that has been my main ride for 
the last 15 years. I stopped commuting to work in 2020 and sort of got out 
of the habit of riding for fun, but I've recently decided I want to get 
back into it. 

I've had the frame repainted twice already, and it is in need of another 
one. I'm trying to decide now whether to:

a) sell the frame as-is and get a Roaduno
b) repaint the frame and rebuild it (maybe in a new color)

I've spoken to Will and he says he prefers the ride of the Roaduno to the 
Quickbeam, but I'm still not sure exactly *why*. Does anyone have any intel 
or thoughts on how it compares? 

I should say that I do ride the QB fixed, and I am aware the Roaduno is 
problematic as a fixie, but I am not worried about that, since I use short 
cranks (150mm) and fat tires (43mm).

Also: Would anyone be interested in a 56 Quickbeam frameset, should I 
decide to sell? I can't imagine I could recoup the cost of refinishing it 
and still make enough to cover some of the cost of a new frame.

- Andrew


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[RBW] Re: 57 Roadini

2024-08-17 Thread Andrew Joseph

It seems no one is very interested in purchasing so…happy to remove this if its 
not appropriate here.

Anyone interested in trading your used 58 canti Nor’Easter, Evasion, or Evasion 
Lite for a like new 57 Roadini frameset, headset, brakes, plus Crust dynamo 
wheelset. I will add a Ti Berthoud Galibier saddle with two tops and RandiJo 
cover, and RH 700c x 44 tires…I would prefer no dents, but scratches are 
expected.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 15, 2024, at 7:54 AM, Andrew Joseph  wrote:
> 
> F/F/HS - 57, Sergio Green
> 
> 1K, you cover all shipping/packing.
> 
> Still have the Crust dynamo wheelset and additional parts.  Message me if you 
> are interested.  
> 
> Will trade for a 54 Appaloosa frameset.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Drew
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

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[RBW] Re: 57 Sergio Green Roadini

2024-08-14 Thread Andrew Joseph


Located in Oklahoma City.

Cheers,

Drew
On Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 3:18:44 PM UTC-5 Andrew Joseph wrote:

> Update, willing to separate now…
>
> FS:
>
>
> 57 Sergio Green Roadini. A couple of very minor paint chips. The most 
> significant is visible on the fork eyelet paint. It’s spent its short life 
> as a demo bike for Mack’s Bikes and Goods in Chicago. I purchased the 
> frameset directly from Sam at Mack’s. Low mileage, light use, zero dents or 
> issues. Will include an FSA headset and Tektro 559 silver brakes.
>
>
> I haven’t built it up since purchasing. 
>
>
> IG Post of the actual bike and frame here as purchased… 
> https://www.instagram.com/macksbikeandgoods/p/C54VtQjLP3T/?img_index=1
>
>
> I also have a Crust Rim brake Wheelset: 700c, 32h F/R, 23mm internal 
> width, 130mm rear spacing, Shutter Precision SV-8 dynamo front hub. 8spd 
> cassette, quick release levers and rim tape included. Hardly used, a few 
> hundred miles.  
> https://crustbikes.com/collections/wheels/products/crust-randonneur-rim-brake-wheelsets
>
>
> Let says $1500 plus shipping for both the frameset, headset, brakes, and 
> dynamo wheelset? 
>
>
> $1100 for F/F/HS, you cover shipping.
>
>
> $400 for wheelset, you cover shipping.
>
>
> Berthoud Ti Galibier saddle with cork top, plus black replacement top 
> (like new), Randi Jo Fabrications cover (unused). $300 shipped
>
>
> 700C x 44 Snoqualmie Pass Endurance casing tires, less than 300 miles - 
> $120 shipped
>
>
> The frame and wheels are already at my shop and ready to be packaged. 
>
>
> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg][image: image2.jpeg][image: 
> image3.jpeg][image: image4.jpeg]
>
> <https://forum1.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/uploads/crustbikes/38a064cbdad927d21b5d2853_h.jpeg>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [RBW] Looking for a 57 Roadini F/F/HS

2024-08-10 Thread Andrew Joseph

Tom,Shoot me a message.R,DrewSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 10, 2024, at 11:15 AM, Tom  wrote:If you have one with no rust I'd like to talk with you - thanks.Tom



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Re: [RBW] Re: 2024 Appaloosa Thread

2024-08-10 Thread Andrew Joseph

Despite everyone providing fantastic advice regarding my Sam rebuild.  I must admit, I am still incredibly interested in replacing the Sam with a green Joe.Regarding tire clearance specifically…Grant told me this run of Joes would now match current Atlantis tire clearances.R,DrewSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 10, 2024, at 6:27 AM, iamkeith  wrote:Watching thread, and curious about the same thing - especially since they felt it necessary to get new prototypes. The geometry chart still shows it having a slightly steeper headtube and shorter top tube than the equivalent Atlantis, which suprises me every time I've ever looked for this info.  (You kind of have to extrapolate, because the respective sizes alternate.)  Will's email said they will be updating the website eventually/soon.I've asked this before, but can anyone describe how the various versions have evolved over time?  I know the fork legs got stiffer after the first batch, and the double top tube was dropped from the larger sizes, but I'm particularly interested in geometry and tire clearance improvements. I have more bikes than I need - especially Rivendells - but still always daydream about that n+1.  The Appaloosa is the model that has the least overlap to the bikes I already have and -  unlike any Atlantis ever - comes in a size that would fit me.  If it got longer and slacker, it would be even better.  



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Re: [RBW] Fwd: WTT: Joe or Atlantis

2024-08-04 Thread Andrew Joseph

Rich!Cannot take credit. Scissortail Cycles in Norman, Oklahoma if you ever pass through…tange headset, yes sir. Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 4, 2024, at 3:58 PM, RichS wrote:Drew, thanks for the photo of your exceptional workshop. So well equipped and organized! Kudos to you.I like the cup & cone bottom bracket on your Sam. Is is the Tange that Riv sells? They're gorgeous.Hope you're successful in making a trade.Best,Rich in ATLOn Saturday, August 3, 2024 at 10:29:44 AM UTC-4 drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote:Thank you Steven! Its a wonderful shopBest,DrewSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 3, 2024, at 9:19 AM, Steven Sweedler <swee...@gmail.com> wrote:Good luck with how it turns out, it looks like a great work space to figure it outSteven SweedlerPlymouth, New HampshireOn Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 9:39 AM Andrew Joseph <drew.jo...@gmail.com> wrote:Update,The sizing wasn’t right for either party after all. Trade fell through, and I am still looking for a Joe or maybe Atlantis frameset. Starting the Sam rebuild in the interim. Rich recommended a 36H Quill dynamo set up. Going with a Silver 38/24 and Albatross bars w/Silver 2 thumbies.Definitely excited about the upcoming Joe’s clearance.Good morning all,Before I build the Sam back up… Anyone wish they would have snagged a HiHo Silver 57? Although, I do like the green on the new Sam. And the Periwinkle builds shared here have also been stunning!As I look at the frameset that could easily be packed for shipping, or rebuilt (already set on components). Really appreciated the timeliness of the lightening the Sam for touring thread btw.I wanted to see if there was any comparable sized Joe (54) or Atlantis (depends on year) frameset owners out there interested in a frameset trade?Would need to know fairly quickly. Happy to keep the Sam either way. VR,DrewSent from my iPhone

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Re: [RBW] Fwd: WTT: Joe or Atlantis

2024-08-03 Thread Andrew Joseph

Thank you Steven! Its a wonderful shopBest,DrewSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 3, 2024, at 9:19 AM, Steven Sweedler  wrote:Good luck with how it turns out, it looks like a great work space to figure it outSteven SweedlerPlymouth, New HampshireOn Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 9:39 AM Andrew Joseph <drew.joseph@gmail.com> wrote:Update,The sizing wasn’t right for either party after all. Trade fell through, and I am still looking for a Joe or maybe Atlantis frameset. Starting the Sam rebuild in the interim.  Rich recommended a 36H Quill dynamo set up. Going with a Silver 38/24 and Albatross bars w/Silver 2 thumbies.Definitely excited about the upcoming Joe’s clearance.Good morning all,Before I build the Sam back up… Anyone wish they would have snagged a HiHo Silver 57?  Although, I do like the green on the new Sam.  And the Periwinkle builds shared here have also been stunning!As I look at the frameset that could easily be packed for shipping, or rebuilt (already set on components).  Really appreciated the timeliness of the lightening the Sam for touring thread btw.I wanted to see if there was any comparable sized Joe (54) or Atlantis (depends on year) frameset owners out there interested in a frameset trade?Would need to know fairly quickly.  Happy to keep the Sam either way.  VR,DrewSent from my iPhone



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Re: [RBW] Re: WTT: Joe or Atlantis

2024-07-26 Thread Andrew Joseph

Update: FoundThanks to those who responded!Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 26, 2024, at 10:59 AM, Kim H. wrote:@Drew,You are more than welcome. I thank-you for letting me know the whole picture that it is actually your
favorite shop locally, ScissorTail Cycles.Keep smiling.Kim Hetzel.

On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7 drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote:Kim,Thank you! That would be my favorite shop locally, ScissorTail Cycles, and most definitely not my garage! 😉Dewayne makes some beautiful frames as well…Best,DrewSent from my iPhoneOn Jul 26, 2024, at 10:39 AM, Kim H. wrote:@Drew,I must say that your corner of the your garage for bicycle maintenance and repair is extraordinarily well stocked and very organized to say none the least. It is very impressive. BTW, that is a beautiful silver Sam Hillborne. Kim Hetzel.On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 7:16:59 AM UTC-7 drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote:Good morning all,Before I build the Sam back up… Anyone wish they would have snagged a HiHo Silver 57? Although, I do like the green on the new Sam. And the Periwinkle builds shared here have also been stunning!As I look at the frameset that could easily be packed for shipping, or rebuilt (already set on components). Really appreciated the timeliness of the lightening the Sam for touring thread btw.I wanted to see if there was any comparable sized Joe (54) or Atlantis (depends on year) frameset owners out there interested in a frameset trade?Would need to know fairly quickly. Happy to keep the Sam either way. VR,DrewSent from my iPhone

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTT: Joe or Atlantis

2024-07-26 Thread Andrew Joseph

Kim,Thank you! That would be my favorite shop locally, ScissorTail Cycles, and most definitely not my garage! 😉Dewayne makes some beautiful frames as well…Best,DrewSent from my iPhoneOn Jul 26, 2024, at 10:39 AM, Kim H. wrote:@Drew,I must say that your corner of the your garage for bicycle maintenance and repair is extraordinarily well stocked and very organized to say none the least. It is very impressive. BTW, that is a beautiful silver Sam Hillborne. Kim Hetzel.On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 7:16:59 AM UTC-7 drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote:Good morning all,Before I build the Sam back up… Anyone wish they would have snagged a HiHo Silver 57? Although, I do like the green on the new Sam. And the Periwinkle builds shared here have also been stunning!As I look at the frameset that could easily be packed for shipping, or rebuilt (already set on components). Really appreciated the timeliness of the lightening the Sam for touring thread btw.I wanted to see if there was any comparable sized Joe (54) or Atlantis (depends on year) frameset owners out there interested in a frameset trade?Would need to know fairly quickly. Happy to keep the Sam either way. VR,DrewSent from my iPhone

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Re: [RBW] Lots for sale: Nitto, Paul, Brooks, Rons, etc.

2024-07-23 Thread Andrew Joseph

Dylan,Would you consider separating the thumbies from the shifters?R,DrewSent from my iPhoneOn Jul 23, 2024, at 4:18 PM, dylan green wrote:Selling of some primo stuff here! Everything is in lightly used condition. photos: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1muJrwtYQ2uee3Z9V9LUDN1Ls_Yk2M9NV/view?usp=sharingRon's Fab's Chest - Small + Shovel Research Rod Steward: $320 shippedWhite Industries VBC with 42t chainring: $320 shippedPaul Thumbies with shimano 9spd bar ends: $175 shippedPaul Neo Retro / touring brakes in silver: $200 shipped for the set (1 whole bikes worth)Brooks B17 Special. Copper rails: $140 shippedBrooks C19 cutout: $100 shippedNitto R14 rear rack with "tombstone" - $160 shippedCamper mini-front rack - $125 shippedShimano M952 rear derailleur, some scratches but not bad compared to most. $80 shippedShimano Deore LX rear derailleur. $60 shippedSugino triple crankset: $100 shippedCampy mirage levers/shifters: $60 shippedNitto 65 27.2 seat post: $60 shipped

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[RBW] Velocity Wheelset

2024-07-21 Thread Andrew Joseph

Anyone by chance hanging onto a 700c Velocity Quill wheelset you might consider 
selling? 

Dynamo front, 135 rear would be ideal.

Would be interested in 700c Quill rims only too…

Long shot, but figured I would ask.

R,

Drew 


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[RBW] Re: FS: Campy 9 Sp Brifters, Crust Bars, Brooks

2024-07-20 Thread Andrew Joseph

Update,  

All prices are shipped to you. 

-Brooks Swift Honey - Pending 
-Rivendell 90-190, (85, 31.8 clamp) - $100
-Crust Shaka bars (by Nitto) 560 width, 31.8 clamp $100
-Campagnolo Mirage 9 speed brifters - SOLD

-Sackville bar tube bag - SOLD
-PNW 31.8 drop bar + 80 Velo Orange quill stem - $90

On Friday, July 19, 2024 at 4:56:15 PM UTC-5 Andrew Joseph wrote:

> Update,  
>
> All prices are shipped to you. 
>
> -Brooks Swift Honey - $110
> -Rivendell 90-190, (85, 31.8 clamp) - $100
> -Crust Shaka bars (by Nitto) 560 width, 31.8 clamp $100
> -Campagnolo Mirage 9 speed brifters - SOLD
>
> -Sackville bar tube bag - $40
> -PNW 31.8 drop bar + 80 Velo Orange quill stem - $90
>
> On Friday, July 19, 2024 at 10:16:42 AM UTC-5 Andrew Joseph wrote:
>
>> I would add…I am willing to trade any parts for a pair of silver or 
>> pewter Paul canti levers, Brooks black special or professional, Paul 
>> touring brakes, or a Silver 2 thumbie set.  
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Drew
>> On Friday, July 19, 2024 at 9:13:00 AM UTC-5 Andrew Joseph wrote:
>>
>>> All, 
>>>
>>> I put out an email recently about converting my Sam. I will definitely 
>>> provide pics once the flat/alt bar set up is done. For now, a few items for 
>>> sale… 
>>>
>>> All prices are shipped to you. 
>>>
>>> -Brooks Swift Honey - $110 
>>> -Rivendell 90-190, (85, 31.8 clamp) - $100 
>>> -Crust Shaka bars (by Nitto) 560 width, 31.8 clamp $100 
>>> -Campagnolo Mirage 9 speed brifters - $120 
>>> -Sackville bar tube bag - $40 
>>> -PNW 31.8 drop bar + 80 Velo Orange quill stem - $90 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Campy 9 Sp Brifters, Crust Bars, Brooks

2024-07-19 Thread Andrew Joseph

Update,  

All prices are shipped to you. 

-Brooks Swift Honey - $110
-Rivendell 90-190, (85, 31.8 clamp) - $100
-Crust Shaka bars (by Nitto) 560 width, 31.8 clamp $100
-Campagnolo Mirage 9 speed brifters - SOLD
-Sackville bar tube bag - $40
-PNW 31.8 drop bar + 80 Velo Orange quill stem - $90

On Friday, July 19, 2024 at 10:16:42 AM UTC-5 Andrew Joseph wrote:

> I would add…I am willing to trade any parts for a pair of silver or pewter 
> Paul canti levers, Brooks black special or professional, Paul touring 
> brakes, or a Silver 2 thumbie set.  
>
> Best,
>
> Drew
> On Friday, July 19, 2024 at 9:13:00 AM UTC-5 Andrew Joseph wrote:
>
>> All, 
>>
>> I put out an email recently about converting my Sam. I will definitely 
>> provide pics once the flat/alt bar set up is done. For now, a few items for 
>> sale… 
>>
>> All prices are shipped to you. 
>>
>> -Brooks Swift Honey - $110 
>> -Rivendell 90-190, (85, 31.8 clamp) - $100 
>> -Crust Shaka bars (by Nitto) 560 width, 31.8 clamp $100 
>> -Campagnolo Mirage 9 speed brifters - $120 
>> -Sackville bar tube bag - $40 
>> -PNW 31.8 drop bar + 80 Velo Orange quill stem - $90 
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Campy 9 Sp Brifters, Crust Bars, Brooks

2024-07-19 Thread Andrew Joseph

I would add…I am willing to trade any parts for a pair of silver or pewter 
Paul canti levers, Brooks black special or professional, Paul touring 
brakes, or a Silver 2 thumbie set.  

Best,

Drew
On Friday, July 19, 2024 at 9:13:00 AM UTC-5 Andrew Joseph wrote:

> All,
>
> I put out an email recently about converting my Sam. I will definitely 
> provide pics once the flat/alt bar set up is done. For now, a few items for 
> sale…
>
> All prices are shipped to you. 
>
> -Brooks Swift Honey - $110
> -Rivendell 90-190, (85, 31.8 clamp) - $100
> -Crust Shaka bars (by Nitto) 560 width, 31.8 clamp $100
> -Campagnolo Mirage 9 speed brifters - $120
> -Sackville bar tube bag - $40
> -PNW 31.8 drop bar + 80 Velo Orange quill stem - $90
>

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Re: [RBW] 57 HiHo Sam

2024-07-16 Thread Andrew Joseph

Thanks again John,Nitto makes a 58 degree flare drop bar for SimWorks called the “To Smile Bar.”Although, it’s 560 width and 31.8 clamp.To Smile Barsim.worksSent from my iPhoneOn Jul 16, 2024, at 3:44 PM, john Bokman wrote:I’m running heat-treated Nitto Noodles, in 44cm. Although if I were going to use the bike mostly for off-pavement rough stuff riding, I would want to swap the bars to something with some flair at the ends. Not sure what those would be. Potentially the Nitto RM-13. In fact, I would not mind some others chiming in on options for an off-pavement drop bar (I do prefer the drops).I doubt you’d be able to get much fatter than a 44 with knobs in there. However, I’ve found it to be a pretty good size!On Jul 16, 2024, at 1:08 PM, Andrew Joseph <drew.joseph@gmail.com> wrote:Thanks John and Brian,John, a different question for you! Considering you feel the Sam has neutral handling when loaded, what bars are you running currently? Thank you for the rack recommendations.Brian, that was my original thought on tiresize as well and a general concern. RH knobby, and BG Rock n Road tires have been suggested. But I don’t believe I can go much larger than 44 with treads? Ronnie Romance recommended the upcoming Rosē (Robusto) 45’s they are releasing late summer for the Sam. He likes BG tires as well. Although Ted mentioned he can run a 48 slick GK. I appreciate the heads up on the terrain regardless, that’s very kind of you.Best, DrewSent from my iPhoneOn Jul 16, 2024, at 2:39 PM, Brian Forsee <bmfor...@gmail.com> wrote:The Arkansas terrain around there is quite steep and can be pretty chunky. Based on the riding I have done in that area I would prefer a larger tire that the Sam will take, something like a 2.25-2.4. However, I think your Sam will preform just fine as long as you take your time and make good line choices on the fast and rough stuff. No need to go out and get a new bike (unless you want to, obviously). Have fun! Its beautiful down there!BrianOn Tuesday, July 16, 2024 at 2:12:09 PM UTC-5 John Bokman wrote:You can load Sam any way you want, in my estimation. I usually use large rear panniers and put easy-access snacks in a front bag which sits atop a Nitto f-32 rack. But I also like to load it in front panniers if my load is smaller. I prefer the handling of front panniers, but they're more fiddly to load and unload, and then there's the tendency for rock strike because they hang fairly low on my Tubus Tara lowriders. So there are tradeoffs to either method. The good news is Sam feels totaly neutral to me.JohnOn Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 1:07:41 PM UTC-7 drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote:John,First, thank you so much for the feedback!No problem at all on the swap… I am very excited to hear that the Sam performed well for you. I just needed some confirmation that Sam can get gnarly too when he wants. I will give the BG Rock n Roads a try and report back. Can you share how you feel the Sam best carries a load like that (30 ish)? Any rack recommendations?Regarding adding a bike. I also own a Roadini and I do still plan on a cockpit swap on the Sam. So another Riv will have to wait. And if the brifters go, I would prefer to replace the wheelset. I already have an Albatross, lugged 120 stem (thanks Jim), and Silver double. Still need shifters, grips, levers, and would like a Quill wheelset w/dynamo. But if anyone has a better set up, ready to go they are willing to sell please me know. I can offer the Campy, wheelset, Crust Shaka, any left over parts back here to the group. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 14, 2024, at 1:28 PM, John Bokman <jpbc...@gmail.com> wrote:Drew: I can't engage you in a swap, because I've got a Sam. But I can say, I find the bike to be absolutely up to that sort of task. I just got back from a trip with really rough, chunky rocks and loose stuff. Running 43mm Bruce Gordon Rock n Roads, I found the bike to be excellent for the task. Plenty stout for me, nary any shimmy with a 30# camping load. Your bike is gorgeous and outfitted so well I'd hate to mess with it. Can you swing another bike?JohnOn Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 7:31:03 AM UTC-7 drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote:Howdy all,

I plan to join a tour this fall. It’s roughly 250 miles in NW Arkansas, less than 50 miles of the route is paved. Some of the route is decently hilly and its also described as having loose, chunky rock sections.

Is the Sam the right bike for this type of trip? I can head out with minimal camping weight. If things go according to plan, we will have three days total to complete the trip.

Bottomline, I would like to either transform this bike into the machine that can handle all of this well…gearing, alt bars, racks, etc.

Or ask this group if anyone is interested in a complete swap for something more trail/touring capable like the Joe or Atlantis.

I plan to pull of the Campy group and H Plus Son (Son 28 dynamo wheelset) to sell regardless, unl

Re: [RBW] Re: 57 HiHo Sam

2024-07-16 Thread Andrew Joseph

Thanks John and Brian,John, a different question for you! Considering you feel the Sam has neutral handling when loaded, what bars are you running currently? Thank you for the rack recommendations.Brian, that was my original thought on tiresize as well and a general concern. RH knobby, and BG Rock n Road tires have been suggested. But I don’t believe I can go much larger than 44 with treads? Ronnie Romance recommended the upcoming Rosē (Robusto) 45’s they are releasing late summer for the Sam. He likes BG tires as well. Although Ted mentioned he can run a 48 slick GK. I appreciate the heads up on the terrain regardless, that’s very kind of you.Best, DrewSent from my iPhoneOn Jul 16, 2024, at 2:39 PM, Brian Forsee wrote:The Arkansas terrain around there is quite steep and can be pretty chunky. Based on the riding I have done in that area I would prefer a larger tire that the Sam will take, something like a 2.25-2.4. However, I think your Sam will preform just fine as long as you take your time and make good line choices on the fast and rough stuff. No need to go out and get a new bike (unless you want to, obviously). Have fun! Its beautiful down there!BrianOn Tuesday, July 16, 2024 at 2:12:09 PM UTC-5 John Bokman wrote:You can load Sam any way you want, in my estimation. I usually use large rear panniers and put easy-access snacks in a front bag which sits atop a Nitto f-32 rack. But I also like to load it in front panniers if my load is smaller. I prefer the handling of front panniers, but they're more fiddly to load and unload, and then there's the tendency for rock strike because they hang fairly low on my Tubus Tara lowriders. So there are tradeoffs to either method. The good news is Sam feels totaly neutral to me.JohnOn Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 1:07:41 PM UTC-7 drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote:John,First, thank you so much for the feedback!No problem at all on the swap… I am very excited to hear that the Sam performed well for you. I just needed some confirmation that Sam can get gnarly too when he wants. I will give the BG Rock n Roads a try and report back. Can you share how you feel the Sam best carries a load like that (30 ish)? Any rack recommendations?Regarding adding a bike. I also own a Roadini and I do still plan on a cockpit swap on the Sam. So another Riv will have to wait. And if the brifters go, I would prefer to replace the wheelset. I already have an Albatross, lugged 120 stem (thanks Jim), and Silver double. Still need shifters, grips, levers, and would like a Quill wheelset w/dynamo. But if anyone has a better set up, ready to go they are willing to sell please me know. I can offer the Campy, wheelset, Crust Shaka, any left over parts back here to the group. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 14, 2024, at 1:28 PM, John Bokman wrote:Drew: I can't engage you in a swap, because I've got a Sam. But I can say, I find the bike to be absolutely up to that sort of task. I just got back from a trip with really rough, chunky rocks and loose stuff. Running 43mm Bruce Gordon Rock n Roads, I found the bike to be excellent for the task. Plenty stout for me, nary any shimmy with a 30# camping load. Your bike is gorgeous and outfitted so well I'd hate to mess with it. Can you swing another bike?JohnOn Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 7:31:03 AM UTC-7 drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote:Howdy all,

Is the Sam the right bike for this type of trip? I can head out with minimal camping weight. If things go according to plan, we will have three days total to complete the trip.

Bottomline, I would like to either transform this bike into the machine that can handle all of this well…gearing, alt bars, racks, etc.

Or ask this group if anyone is interested in a complete swap for something more trail/touring capable like the Joe or Atlantis.

I plan to pull of the Campy group and H Plus Son (Son 28 dynamo wheelset) to sell regardless, unless someone likes the current set up and is interested. Happy to discuss further if so, just let me know sooner rather than later on that.

Best,

Drew

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Re: [RBW] Re: 57 HiHo Sam

2024-07-15 Thread Andrew Joseph

Thank you Ted,I have really enjoyed your Sam posts and they definitely contributed to me finally picking one up! Exactly the insight I was hoping for…sounds like I shouldn’t be too concerned with buying a rear rack after all? Very helpful.Appreciate the additional tire recommendations too. I will start looking for front racks, and bags.R,DrewSent from my iPhoneOn Jul 15, 2024, at 3:24 PM, Ted Durant wrote:On Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 7:31:03 AM UTC-7 drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote:I plan to join a tour this fall. It’s roughly 250 miles in NW Arkansas, less than 50 miles of the route is paved. Some of the route is decently hilly and its also described as having loose, chunky rock sections.

Is the Sam the right bike for this type of trip? I can head out with minimal camping weight. If things go according to plan, we will have three days total to complete the trip.I'd happily take one of my 3 Sams on a trip like that. I've covered all sorts of terrain, from smooth pavement to crazy mountainside rocky trails, on Gravel King 48mm slicks. If I knew the ride was going to be predominantly off-road, I'd probably go for some RH knobby tires. In my experience, your half-step plus granny gearing might be more suited to a flatter, rolling-hills terrain than sharper up-and-down stuff, but everyone has their own preferences there.I have not, however, loaded a Sam beyond a fairly full handlebar bag. I'm a big fan of carrying the weight up front, so I'd first try a pair of front panniers, and I'd try to mount them so they don't drop too low to the ground, to avoid banging on rocks on the trails. If I needed more capacity than that, I'd try a saddlebag (you have a lot more room for that than I do with my 51cm Sam / 70cm saddle height). Or possibly a basket on the front. Beautiful handlebar wrap !!Ted DurantMilwaukee WI USA

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Re: [RBW] Re: 57 HiHo Sam

2024-07-14 Thread Andrew Joseph

John,First, thank you so much for the feedback!No problem at all on the swap… I am very excited to hear that the Sam performed well for you. I just needed some confirmation that Sam can get gnarly too when he wants. I will give the BG Rock n Roads a try and report back. Can you share how you feel the Sam best carries a load like that (30 ish)? Any rack recommendations?Regarding adding a bike. I also own a Roadini and I do still plan on a cockpit swap on the Sam. So another Riv will have to wait. And if the brifters go, I would prefer to replace the wheelset. I already have an Albatross, lugged 120 stem (thanks Jim), and Silver double. Still need shifters, grips, levers, and would like a Quill wheelset w/dynamo. But if anyone has a better set up, ready to go they are willing to sell please me know. I can offer the Campy, wheelset, Crust Shaka, any left over parts back here to the group. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 14, 2024, at 1:28 PM, John Bokman wrote:Drew: I can't engage you in a swap, because I've got a Sam. But I can say, I find the bike to be absolutely up to that sort of task. I just got back from a trip with really rough, chunky rocks and loose stuff. Running 43mm Bruce Gordon Rock n Roads, I found the bike to be excellent for the task. Plenty stout for me, nary any shimmy with a 30# camping load. Your bike is gorgeous and outfitted so well I'd hate to mess with it. Can you swing another bike?JohnOn Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 7:31:03 AM UTC-7 drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote:Howdy all,

Is the Sam the right bike for this type of trip? I can head out with minimal camping weight. If things go according to plan, we will have three days total to complete the trip.

Bottomline, I would like to either transform this bike into the machine that can handle all of this well…gearing, alt bars, racks, etc.

Or ask this group if anyone is interested in a complete swap for something more trail/touring capable like the Joe or Atlantis.

Best,

Drew

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Re: [RBW] Santa Cruz Randonneurs 200k ride report

2024-06-26 Thread Andrew Letton

 Ah, I remember that ride with fond memories. I rode it several times (as a 
Permanent) when I did my R12 back in 2008. Thanks for the report and the trip 
down memory lane, Toshi!
cheers,
Andrew, now of Sydney


On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 12:37:46 PM GMT+10, Toshi Takeuchi 
 wrote:  
 
 Last Saturday I rode the SCR 200k that rides up to Half Moon Bay and back to 
Santa Cruz, including some miles through San Gregorio/Stage Rd., 
Pescadero/Haskins Hill etc.
I think the best part of the ride was that 8 of the 9 riders stuck together 
throughout the ride and finished the ride together.  This made it a great 
opportunity to ride with friends and make several new friends.
One of the riders, Jim, rode one of the early Riv road bikes (color red) and I 
was riding my red Roadeo, so we had a good presence there.  (Many would argue 
that our red bikes are not as fast as orange ones, but nevertheless...)
The morning started out foggy on the coast, and unlike the previous ride a few 
weeks earlier, I neglected to wipe my lenses with the anti-fog wipes, which 
were effective the previous ride; so unfortunately, I had to windshield wiper 
my lenses with my fingers throughout my jaunt up the coast.

One of my ride mates, Ioannis, didn't know about these anti-fog wipes, and they 
work quite well.  They became especially popular during COVID times when masks 
would cause glasses to fog up, and these wipes helped prevent that. 

Although the temperatures got into the 90s inland, by the coast, it was 
extremely pleasant, especially after the fog burned off mid-morning.  We 
stopped by a bakery in Half Moon Bay, where it was nice and sunny, and I ate a 
delicious ham and cheese croissant as well as a chocolate croissant, although 
in this case, the savory one hit the spot better.  As I mentioned previously, I 
am seriously considering PBP 2027, and feel confident that savory croissants 
can fuel my ride very well.  I'll have to see how I feel about that after 
riding 300 miles, but I remain hopeful.
Usually one of the best parts of the day is when we ride down the coast back to 
Santa Cruz with a tailwind, and we were not disappointed on our return down the 
beautiful coast.  A couple spots had some lingering fog that added to the 
coastal scenery with rugged beaches to the right and some beautiful meadows on 
our left.
I'm thinking that either I should have easier access to my phone, or I should 
bring my camera along, especially on the 200k so I can document the beautiful 
views as I ride.
The 200k is always an enjoyable ride distance because you usually get to end in 
the daylight and have an opportunity to enjoy a nice dinner afterwards.  Many 
of us ate some good Mexican food after the ride, and despite a little traffic 
getting out of Santa Cruz, we took our time and enjoyed the rest of the evening.
I definitely want to give thanks to my fellow riders, whose company made the 
day go by smoothly and delightfully.
Toshi in Oakland, CA




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[RBW] Re: A PSA From Gordon Ramsay

2024-06-16 Thread Andrew Turner

$0.02: If I get hit, I want my appearance to reflect that I ride to be safe 
and seen, not that I was being reckless or at the wrong place at the wrong 
time. The optics unfortunately matter despite the psychology backing up 
riding helmetless. All those who invented/coinvented the mountain bike and 
have a mustache get the green light though IMO.  
On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 4:45:37 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:

> Purple potato indeed!
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/food/article/2024/jun/16/gordon-ramsay-lucky-to-be-here-after-us-bike-crash
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Re: [RBW] ISO: 61cm Roadeo

2024-06-07 Thread Andrew Joseph

Bummer,I hope you find one!Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 7, 2024, at 5:24 PM, Craig Bessenger wrote:Thanks for forwarding that ad — unfortunately it says he won’t ship. I’m also most interested in a frame and fork rather than a complete build, although I don’t want to rule anything out. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 7, 2024, at 11:13 AM, Andrew Joseph wrote:No affiliation with the seller other than exchanging some emails. All great communication consistent with other awesome members here. Frame is too tall for me…<00U0U_5xEmxUU8tIK_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg>Rivendell Roadeo - bicycles - by owner - bike sale - craigslistdenver.craigslist.orgSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 7, 2024, at 12:42 PM, 'C B' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:Hi all — Looking for a 61cm Roadeo (would consider a 59cm as well). Prefer a Nobilette-built frame over Waterford. Let me know if you have something — thanks!-Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/E7C94B6B-BA03-4094-9A18-7B88A74FA763%40yahoo.com.

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Re: [RBW] ISO: 61cm Roadeo

2024-06-07 Thread Andrew Joseph

No affiliation with the seller other than exchanging some emails.  All great communication consistent with other awesome members here.  Frame is too tall for me…Rivendell Roadeo - bicycles - by owner - bike sale - craigslistdenver.craigslist.orgSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 7, 2024, at 12:42 PM, 'C B' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:Hi all — Looking for a 61cm Roadeo (would consider a 59cm as well).  Prefer a Nobilette-built frame over Waterford.  Let me know if you have something — thanks!-Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/E7C94B6B-BA03-4094-9A18-7B88A74FA763%40yahoo.com.



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[RBW] Sergio Green Roadini 57 frameset

2024-05-27 Thread Andrew Joseph

All,I recently picked up a like new Roadini frameset and Tektro 559s from Mack’s Bikes in Chicago. However, I also just purchased a Sam complete and I am loving it. Maybe I had low expectations of the Sams performance on pavement having previously owned a Homer?Regardless of the reason, I was wrong and the Sam is super fun on the road. I really like being able to run canti brakes personally as well.I realize the Roadini frameset will just be sitting for quite sometime. This is fine, but I figured I would see if anyone here is interested in the frameset?I can pull the frame out of the box for more photos if you’re interested later this week. But this is the IG link to the photos of the actual bike Sam from Mack’s Bikes took when it was built up before I purchased it.Maybe $1100 plus shipping and I will include the brakes? I can include a headset. Although, the sale did not include a headset and seatpost as it was purchased from Mack’s and not Riv directly. $50 for a FSA Duron.Located in Oklahoma.P.S. Unless someone talks me out of it. Really thinking about picking up an Appaloosa frame instead when they are available.R,DrewMack’s Bike & Goods on Instagram: "One of our favorites (mostly cuz we love the name Leo)
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

2024-05-23 Thread Andrew Joseph

Patrick,Thank you! Those little contraptions are actually called “Cable Cherries.” They are easily installed and tightened via a 1.5 mm hex. They are quite fun, come in some great colors and are available from Forager Cycles, and Paul, among others. See below for the description from Forager…“The Cable Cherries are durable, reusable cable ends with a huge grip - no more crimps wiggling off leaving a frayed, pokey end! The easy-to-grab sphere shape makes adjusting cable tension or swapping components simple. Tape the included 1.5mm hex key to your tire lever, and you’re set!Easily grab the sphere to snug up your cable tension. Take them on and off as much as you need with the included 1.5mm hex key & set screw. The Cable Cherries are CNC machined in Oakland, CA on the same equipment that makes surgical pins & screws. Get 'em tight, and have 'em for life.”The saddle is a Berthoud Galibier. A bit more narrow (and Ti rails) than their normal offerings.Hope this is helpful.Best,DrewSent from my iPhoneOn May 23, 2024, at 6:01 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:Andrew: nice. Pray, what is the little orange globular cable end -- I guess I really mean, how is it designed and how does it clamp to the cable -- and where do you get them?And, what is the saddle? Brooks Swift? Or trimmed Pro? Or another marque?Patrick Moore, ruthlessly bottom-trimming and wondering what to do with the very, very nice -- thick leather! -- as-new B17N that he got recently for ~$47 + shipping.On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 4:50 PM Andrew Joseph <drew.joseph@gmail.com> wrote:Better photos…Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-16 Thread Andrew Joseph

Thanks Ted!

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> On May 16, 2024, at 8:42 AM, Ted Durant  wrote:
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>> On May 16, 2024, at 7:43 AM, Andrew Joseph  wrote:
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>> Can any Sam owner out there confirm there is tire clearance for BG Rock ‘n 
>> Road 48s?  My Sam is from the previous run…
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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-16 Thread Andrew Joseph

Can any Sam owner out there confirm there is tire clearance for BG Rock ‘n Road 48s?  My Sam is from the previous run…Sent from my iPhoneOn May 15, 2024, at 3:42 PM, Ted Durant  wrote:On May 15, 2024, at 3:15 PM, reeb  wrote:almost pulled the trigger but hesitant about sizing! at 80 PBH, should i be going for the 48 or 51 for casual city rides with maybe once a month camping treks (most likely upright bars)? My saddle height is 70cm (PBH 81ish). Here’s what it looks like on a 51:
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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-14 Thread Andrew Joseph

I would add that I love the very quiet update to the Sam. I like the option of running downtube shifters on the new models.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 14, 2024, at 9:05 AM, Andrew Joseph wrote:Thank you Doug!Hmmm. Saddle, seat post, stem, tires, bars, and maybe pedals will all be replaced.Fresh tape/twine, moon units, cable cherries, and then off in the sunset we go…Thanks to the members providing helpful feedback already. Best, DrewSent from my iPhoneOn May 14, 2024, at 8:47 AM, Doug H. wrote:Andrew,That's a great looking build. The silver is classic and I like the black and silver parts together. Nice wheelset too. What parts are you changing?DougOn Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 9:19:41 AM UTC-4 Andrew Joseph wrote:Doug,Not one of the new colors. But excited that I could pick up this new to me 57 Sam after regretting the sale of my Homer last year. New parts are coming in this week and I will share the completed bike photos.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 14, 2024, at 8:09 AM, Doug H. <dhansf...@gmail.com> wrote:I like the colors coming this go-round. The Sam seems like the perfect all-rounder and I would get one had I not just bought a Roadini. Who's planning to get a Sam Hillborne?Doug

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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-14 Thread Andrew Joseph

Thank you Doug!Hmmm. Saddle, seat post, stem, tires, bars, and maybe pedals will all be replaced.Fresh tape/twine, moon units, cable cherries, and then off in the sunset we go…Thanks to the members providing helpful feedback already. Best, DrewSent from my iPhoneOn May 14, 2024, at 8:47 AM, Doug H. wrote:Andrew,That's a great looking build. The silver is classic and I like the black and silver parts together. Nice wheelset too. What parts are you changing?DougOn Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 9:19:41 AM UTC-4 Andrew Joseph wrote:Doug,Not one of the new colors. But excited that I could pick up this new to me 57 Sam after regretting the sale of my Homer last year. New parts are coming in this week and I will share the completed bike photos.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 14, 2024, at 8:09 AM, Doug H. <dhansf...@gmail.com> wrote:I like the colors coming this go-round. The Sam seems like the perfect all-rounder and I would get one had I not just bought a Roadini. Who's planning to get a Sam Hillborne?Doug

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

2024-05-09 Thread Andrew Joseph

Hey Brian,One vote for the more classic green with brown accents…Now, if the Romanceur is gone, and you decide to sell the Roadini…I would do Periwinkle. If the Roadini and the rest of your stable stays, I think you will love the green and it would complement the others well.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 9, 2024, at 12:18 AM, Brian Watts wrote:Howdy! I'm very excited to snag a Sam next Wednesday; I'll move over my Crust Romanceur bits: albatross, Paul Canti, White Ind. cranks etc. I'm so torn on the colors!! Fun bright periwinkle with more subdued accents or classic green with brown accents. INPUT??On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 8:14:34 AM UTC-7 drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote:Howdy gang,After an unsuccessful attempt at finding a 58 Mustard Homer…I take delivery of this size 57, new to me, Sam today! I am pumped, and it should be an excellent canvas as a HiHo Silver specimen.I wanted to take a moment in light of recent scammy trends and briefly introduce myself. Happy to answer any follow up questions as well. I returned to bikes following a nominal investment in the bike infrastructure by Oklahoma City leadership. But the investment did at least provide a system of trails and paved pathways that allows for a good amount of riding off of the roadway. Unfortunately, I have had close friends struck and killed by vehicles on bikes and motorcycles. The environment has to be nearly perfect for me to feel even remotely comfortable touring on roads exclusively. The level of trust road cyclists have in the drivers passing by has always fascinated me. Driving is one of the most dangerous activities we can engage in. Anyhow enough of that. I began with Surly bikes, then quickly to Crust bikes, and finally…thanks to Blue Lug photography inspiration, a 58 Homer. The Homer is currently my favorite Riv. I have owned an orange Ram that was slightly too tall and an Atlantis 2 that could have worked but required some significant frame repair. Sold both bikes to Jarrod Bunk, an incredible person and former owner of Hope Cyclery. James knocked out the Homer build and Rich built a White/dynamo Quill wheelset. The bike fit like a tailored suit. My build was loosely modeled after the interpretation of James Homer prior to his latest Staff bike mods. Why did I sell it? Possibly the very cool buyer, maybe an attempt to cull bikes that couldn’t perform as well in NWA dirt touring (what was I thinking?), impulse, maybe some guilt in owning more bikes than my Wife (my best bud). I do regret selling it. But always forward. I traded a Crust Bombora for the Sam that I realized very quickly I was attempting to make more comfortable and upright like my Homer. I acknowledged this and happily traded. Hence the remaining ENVE wheels and White crankset I posted on the group recently. Let’s see, I have more than a few kiddos, three of the kids now ride also which is such a joy and I also train BJJ, weight lift/run. Some questions…The cockpit worked well for me, with an 80mm lugged stem and 90 reach Crust Shaka bar. I have received some helpful feedback already regarding this Sam. I would like to have a similar cockpit, if not the same with a Noodle or Shaka bar. Do I need a shorter stem?I have a new 85mm 90-190 stem. I wouldn’t mind running the Shaka again. Or snag a 70/80 stem to try the Noodle?Either way, I hope to buy a longer lugged stem from Jim and pick up an Albatross down the road. I certainly hope to try that one day. Anyone have any feedback on the H SON PLUS wheelset? No experience beyond Velocity and Crust wheels. Also my first experience with Campy. Will also be switching the saddle, seatpost, pedals, adding Moon Units, cages, and cable cherries.Photos of my previous Homer, and the Sam as it will arrive (hopefully)…Hope everyone is having a great week so far. Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 29, 2024, at 12:30 AM, Tom wrote:<2_sams.JPG>Been a long while since I've posted here...I'm getting back to biking more these days, and enjoying reading about these wonderful bikes, esp. those of the newcomers to the Riv family. The Sam is my favorite Riv. The ol' 58 with albatross bars in the last pic used to be mine until my wife decided she needed it. So I got another 58, set it up with a noodle bar and really enjoyed it. For various reasons I sold my 58 and dabbled with a several other Riv models for a while. They were fun, too! But I missed that Sam. Late in 2019 Riv had a great deal on a batch of older Sams, so a 62 dbl top tube f/f/hs found its way into my garage, and I built it up. Still have it and recently began to enjoy it greatly as a relaxed run-a-bout.But I still miss that 58 with noodle bar. If anyone has one (or a 57 Roadini) please let me know. Thanks!Tom On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 1:35:39 PM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:After seeing various Sam owners pictures here and there on various threads I thought I would start a thread dedicated to the versatile Sam's.Perhaps such a thre

Re: [RBW] Re: Scam alert? I'm so confused. Blue Homer in LA? ND?

2024-05-03 Thread Andrew Joseph

Bad experience with Jeff and the “seller,” he directed me to with a Homer as well!I posted that I want to buy a Mustard frameset. Jeff directed me to his friend, and it went very badly from there. Fortunately, I sent no payment.I also reported this to Admin. Sent from my iPhoneOn May 3, 2024, at 5:29 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:That Jeff McCathern guy tried to sell me a Roadini. He’s a scammer. I wasn’t brave enough to say so publicly, but I will now.On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 6:25:52 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:Kim, the link takes us directly to a blue lug page. How did you get scammed? BTW, I’ve gotten scammed too — with eBay. I will never not buy directly from the seller. On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 12:29:57 AM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote:@Brenton-I am sorry to hear and see you go through this ordeal. I wish it was not so.The administrator for this RBWOB group is Jim - cyclo...@gmail.comYour message may take a day or two for him to respond. I hope he can help you.My regards,Kim Hetzel.I got scammed too last year over these - https://global.bluelug.com/catalog/product/view/id/27109/s/rew10-works-hex-brass-valve-cap/category/1321/ last year.On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 9:17:48 PM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:The more I think about this the more fired up I get. I've had so many pleasant exchanges here, both transactional and non-transactional, that I feel protective of this group. If no scam is happening, no one will be bummed on me sharing out a phone number and email. I was direct messaged from 'Jeff McCathern' via jeff00m...@gmail.com who said they were friends with a seller named "Leonard" and I gave my phone number to that emailer.The text message correspondence was with phone number 424-269-2563 which got super cryptic and scammy. When they told me the bike was in LA, I said I would happily have a friend (I have lots of friends in LA, some are in this group!) meet up to buy the bike, they accused me of being cautious and suggested a deposit.Not sure who the admins of this group are, but everything about this says scam. I would love to be wrong.On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 8:48:01 PM UTC-7 Brenton Eastman wrote:Hi. I've been searching for a blue homer in 54.5 for my wife and in my ISO post I was linked to this facebook listing:" @Brenton -If you go FACEBOOK Rivendell Bicycle BUY/SELL/TRADE, there is a blue Homer under the owner's name of Payton Beargrr Very near mint condition A. Homer Hilsen, 54.5cm with 650b wheels. Unsure of year but it's likely 4 or less years old. Taiwanese made frame. I am not the original owner but this appears to be a Rivendell build. -Nitto handlebars, stem, and seat post-Brooks saddle-Paul racer brakes, Paul canti levers-Paul thumbie mounts with Microshift shifters-Riv Silver double crankset-IRD front derailleur-Shimano Alivio rear derailleur-MKS Grip Monarch pedals-mismatched Shimano hubs, no name rims-Soma Cazadero 650 x 42b-Sackville bagThe only imperfections are the two small paint chips on the top tube, noted in the pictures. $2500 + shipping. Let me know if you have any questions.Kim Hetzel."Other people seem to also be looking at this bike. Robert Carlton said owner confirmed it's a 58. The facebook post has some comments and the owner says the bike is in Fargo ND.I've been texting with someone (who says the bike is in LA) and he wants a $400 deposit to sell it to me for $1300 (complete bike, insane price). The whole thing is odd. They can't send me a pic with measure tape to prove a claim of 69cm standover. It sure doesn't look like a 54.5 based on every other Riv stack I've seen and studied. Our messages have been super cryptic. I just HOPE anyone else looking for a blue homer in 58 or 54.5 doesn't fall for a scam. Posting here amongst people I trust, admire, and have become friends with. My Roadini frame and dozens of parts on both my Rivs have been purchased from this group. I don't want to stir up any drama if this is in fact a legit sale, but the listing is from Jan 2023, 16 months old, this bike at any price under $2000 should be long gone on it's way to a new owner. PS. I'm not sending a deposit.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Craigslist, etc 2024

2024-04-29 Thread Andrew Joseph

https://crustbikes.com/a/shopicial/topics/196896Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 28, 2024, at 8:38 PM, Kim H. wrote:

Rivendell Clem Smith Clementine - $2,150 (Sacramento) https://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/d/sacramento-rivendell-clem-smith/7735990306.htmlKim Hetzel.On Sunday, April 28, 2024 at 6:22:31 PM UTC-7 jamin orrall wrote:Awesome color Saluki and a good price! I believe this is or was John's bike (rivendell employee). This would explain the very history heavy description. On Sunday, April 28, 2024 at 11:01:54 AM UTC-7 Matti wrote:Saluki here: https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-62cm-rivendell-saluki/7741642940.htmlOn Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 10:20:00 AM UTC-8 maxcr wrote:Time for a new FS thread?I saw this 63 Roadeo on the Crust classifieds and thought a tall member here might be interested: https://crustbikes.com/a/shopicial/topics/179734Good price at $1,500 for the frameset but the seller indicates it has been repainted by D&D Cycles.No connection to the seller.Max

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[RBW] Re: WTT

2024-04-29 Thread Andrew Joseph

165 crank arm length 

On Monday, April 29, 2024 at 7:35:56 AM UTC-5 Andrew Joseph wrote:

> Thanks Igor!
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> Apologies for the confusion.
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> Revised*
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> WTT: 
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> 1) ENVE AG25 700c wheelset w/less than 25 miles. Will ship in ENVE wheel 
> box. 
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> 2) And White Industries R30 crankset with purple extractor and 38T 
> chainring (excuse the wax) also like new. Will add cash as appropriate…
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> Seeking a trade towards the following framesets. 57 Roadini, 57 Appaloosa, 
> 53 Susie, 58 Homer. 
>
> (If someone is interested in purchasing let me know. I’m thinking 1K for 
> the wheels and 400 for the crankset.)
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> Best,
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> Drew
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Re: [RBW] Homer question

2024-04-29 Thread Andrew Joseph

Greetings,I settled on a 58 Homer with the same PBH (FWIW) after speaking with Grant.  For me, the bike was a perfect fit…Best of luck.- DrewSent from my iPhoneOn Apr 29, 2024, at 12:29 AM, xerox-dream  wrote:Hello all,I had a pretty basic question, but wanted everyone’s opinion and expertise. I am thinking of getting a 58CM 2019  a homer Hilson my PBH is 86 to 86 1/2. currently I’m riding a 55 CM platypus and that’s been great. just reaching out if anyone has a similar set up with a similar PBH?https://bikeinsights.com/bike-geometries/5cedbc58663b2d0017aa071d-2019-rivendell-bicycle-works-a-homer-hilsen-mit-58i guess this model was 650b compared to newer 700c model for this frame size



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Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino XD2

2024-04-28 Thread Andrew Joseph

Nick,You are awesome. Thank you for this information!  Happy Sunday…Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 28, 2024, at 3:35 PM, Nick Payne  wrote:Spa Cycles in the UK sell their XD-2 cranks for STG30/pair without chainrings. Made for them by Sugino but without the Sugino logo stamped near the back of  pedal eye. I have both XD-2 cranks purchased directly from Sugino in Japan and the Spa XD-2 cranks, and the forgings are identical other than the lack of the Sugino logo on the Spa crank. The Stronglight Impact crank is another identical alternative also made by Sugino.Sugino crank:Spa crank:Nick Payne



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[RBW] Sugino XD2

2024-04-28 Thread Andrew Joseph

WTB: New/Like new Sugino XD2 crankset w/170 crank arms

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[RBW] 58 Homer

2024-04-24 Thread Andrew Joseph

Hello everyone,

Just making sure no one has a 58 AHH Mustard frameset they may be willing to 
part with?

Really enjoying the photos and learning from the groups content thus far.  
Tremendous experience here.

Take care,

Drew

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Re: [RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

2024-02-16 Thread Andrew MacDonald

I second the disclaimer to check for washer prior to using crank puller.

-Andrew

On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 2:32 PM Shoji Takahashi 
wrote:

> Also, check to make sure there's no crank bolt washer before you put on
> the crank puller!
>
> good luck,
> shoji
> Arlington MA
>
> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 3:48:29 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I enumerated a list of tools, omitting the most critical one.
>>
>> Learning any mechanical manuever is a LOT easier with the bike held in a
>> proper mechanic's work stand.  Every single is a LOT harder doing it on the
>> ground or with the bike upside down.  The work stand is the barrier.  There
>> is not a mechanic on earth who would prefer working on a bike without a
>> work stand.  It's possible to get it done, but it's always harder.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:52:24 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Generally speaking, anybody who wants to do new mechanical maneuvers,
>>> and has the will to purchase the right tools, by all means go for it.
>>>
>>> To swap out your crank set without swapping the BB, what you need are:
>>>
>>> -pedal wrench
>>> -whatever wrench you need for your crank bolts: Long 8mm allen, 14mm
>>> socket, maybe both
>>> -crank puller, and maybe an adjustable wrench to drive your crank puller
>>>
>>> Assuming you have all the above, absolutely pull your crank off and test
>>> fit the VO.  To measure the length of the existing BB a cheap caliper would
>>> be useful.  If your existing BB is "too short" your small ring will hit the
>>> frame and if you crank down the crank bolt AFTER you've already crashed
>>> your ring into the chain stay, then you'll do real damage.  Aside from
>>> that, any clearance is enough clearance, but crazy close, like 1mm would be
>>> a concern for many.  3mm is ample.
>>>
>>> Once you have clearance, it's up to you to worry about chain line.  In
>>> some narrow Q applications the front derailleur throw can be an issue.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:07:21 AM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> A while back I posted about low q, low-range cranks for my Hillborne.
>>>>
>>>> I just ordered one of the VO 46/30s, which seems like a good option at
>>>> the price. I'll use the stock rings first, then tweak them down the road.
>>>>
>>>> A few questions - I'm going to try the install myself--I think--and
>>>> this is my first attempt.
>>>>
>>>> I understand that the VO 46/30 is supposed to be paired with a 118mm
>>>> BB. I have read on here of folks using shorter spindles. I currently have
>>>> either a 113 or 115mm on the Hillborne. I'm assuming the only way to know
>>>> is to remove the cranks and measure? Has anyone here tried a shorter
>>>> spindle on their Hillborne with the VO cranks?
>>>>
>>>> My question - Should I try simply swapping cranks and see how the VO
>>>> cranks do at 115/113mm? If so, what would I be watching for to suggest a
>>>> problem? OR is this a dumb way to start tinkering with cranks? And if so,
>>>> any thoughts on swapping BB vs taking it a shop? (I have great shops
>>>> nearby, but like to gradually learn a few things every so often.)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] NorCal Coast Tour Route Feedback

2024-02-12 Thread Andrew Letton

Hi Stephen,Yes, when one sees the "Golden rollin' hills of California" in the
summertime, it is hard to remember the North Coast rainforests! The hotter it
gets inland, the foggier the coastline. It can be 100F thirty miles inland and
a foggy 58F on the coast in July.As for mud, the dirt in the Lost Coast region
is pretty rocky and drains well, so aside from low areas where rain washed silt
(that fine dust of the summer) may accumulate, mud probably won't be a big
issue. I've certainly never experienced the peanut-butter-mud that I've heard
of in other areas.cheers,Andrew in 31C=88F Sydney, wishing for some North Coast
fog!

On Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 12:07:07 AM GMT+11, Stephen
wrote:

Thanks for the input Andrew! What a place to grow up! I've been up along the
Usal Road to camp once before and I remember it being pretty rugged.. Don't
mind a little extra dirt. I am curious just how wet it will be up thataways,
and if itll be so muddy as to be problematic. Hard to say I guess, April is
apparently the tail end of the rainy season. I always think of california as
such a dry place I kind of forget that this whole route is basically riding
through a rain forest.
On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 5:22:42 PM UTC-5 Andrew Letton wrote:

Hi Stephen,Looks like a great ride!I grew up in the Lost Coast area (Whale
Gulch), so your first route goes right through my home turf.One thing that I
find suspicious is that RWGPS seems to show some paved road between Four
Corners and Dutchman's Flat, and I don't believe that's true. The Usal Road is
pretty remote and depending on the time of year, not well maintained. I believe
the county only maintains it during summer months, so in winter it is sometimes
unpassable in a car. That shouldn't stop a bicycle, but you may find areas
pretty rutted. YMMV! I've ridden it only once, in summer, and my problem was
not bringing enough water, so plan accordingly. It's only about 26 miles, but
as you can see from RWGPS, it's a pretty intense 26 miles! Don't let that scare
you off, just be prepared. You will be rewarded by some spectacular country.
You can probably fill water bottles at the Whale Gulch School, just before you
get to Four Corners. After Four Corners, you'll be heading off into truly
unpopulated areas and are unlikely to find much water. (Filter what you do
find!) Oh, and if it is dust season (June-Sep), you may want to have a bandana
around your neck, ready to pull up over your mouth/nose for when cars (very
occasionally) pass. Ah, I just saw that you're thinking of April, so dust will
not likely be an issue, but rain may be; you'll be riding through one of the
wettest regions in the whole state! ;-)
https://www.eldoradoweather.com/calprecip-full-size.htmlHave a great ride, and
I look forward to your ride report...
cheers,Andrew, from Whale Gulch; now in Sydney
(Image from Google Street View at Four Corners)

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 07:39:01 AM GMT+11, Stephen
wrote:

Hey All,
This week I've been fantasizing about a tour route from Eureka to SF that
follows the PCH but avoids riding on it as much as possible (within reason). So
I've been playing around in rwgps and Gaia Gps maps to make some route drafts,
trying to stay close to the coast but choosing alternate roads and dirt roads
as much as possible to avoid traffic.
For the beginning of the route I used part of a Lost Coast tour route that ends
and begins in Eureka. As for the end, I've done a fair bit of riding in Marin
and have familiarity with the roads and trails up to Sir Francis Drake Road.
Will probably make two different route endings, one for east bay and one for
SF. (the route draft I have now is for eastbay)
I was wondering if anyone on the list had experience in the other areas up the
coast, or has done a similar ride, or been on any of the roads I've routed or
had recommendations? Sometimes you see a road on a map and in reality its
private access or washed away. Would appreciate any thoughts or feedback or
anybody who wants to nerd out on maps and routemaking.
Playing with the idea of riding this on my appaloosa in April.
ROUTES:https://ridewithgps.com/routes/45561107
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/45561484

Let me know if theres trouble accessing those.
Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] TRP RRL Hood Black to Gum

2024-01-23 Thread Andrew Turner

I used to swap TRP hoods all the dang time when I had both hood colors. A 
little rubbing alcohol helps things move around too. 

On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:32:04 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Damon — I haven't done the swap you describe. But it looks like you will 
> have a gum / black /silver colorway if you put the gum hoods on the factory 
> black levers. 
>
> [image: Screenshot 2024-01-22 at 11.30.22 AM.png]. [image: Screenshot 
> 2024-01-22 at 11.30.15 AM.png]
>
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:14:47 AM UTC-5 Bill Schaefer wrote:
>
>> I replaced my gum hoods with new gum hoods, since the old ones on my 
>> Atlantis were completely dry rotted and cracked when I did a re-taped the 
>> bars. The new hoods slipped over the brake levers with a little 
>> encouragement, so I didn't have  to take the levers off the bars, which was 
>> nice. Easy swap. 
>>
>> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 9:31:43 PM UTC-5 esoter...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey Damon,
>>>
>>> I've put black hoods on the gum/silver levers and they fit fine. If I 
>>> remember correctly, the gum hoods had little nubs that would fit into holes 
>>> in the plastic body to secure it better, but the black ones didn't have the 
>>> nubs. They still fit just fine; in fact, the nubs made it harder to get the 
>>> gum hoods back on flush. So I'm sure it would also work for the way you're 
>>> describing. Here's a pic of both gum and black on my old Soma-
>>>
>>> ~Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 21, 2024, at 14:10, DTL  wrote:
>>>
>>> Has anyone swapped the hoods?
>>>
>>>
>>> The gum levers have a 'grey' portion between the hood and the lever - so 
>>> can I assume if I put the gum hoods on originally black / silver levers, I 
>>> would have a gum / black / silver lever?
>>>
>>> Has anyone swapped out hoods? Would love to see photos.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: HELP: My wife stole my Platypus

2024-01-23 Thread Andrew MacDonald

Interesting! Thanks Nick. And cool Atlantis.  Do you by chance know which
era it is from? I had one that I believe was a 2003 Toyo that did not have
the s-curves.

-Andrew

On Tuesday, January 23, 2024, Old And In The Weeds <
oldandinthewe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, this era of Atlantii had gentle s-curved chainstays. Here is mine in
> the same size (attached).
>
> Nick
>
> On Monday, January 22, 2024, Drurad (Sacramento)  wrote:
>
>> Still in search.  Had a close call on a 56 Atlantis that actually turned
>> out to be a 53.  And Vernon found his Hunq a new home (congrats to the new
>> owner).  I am now looking at a 56 on Facebook Marketplace.  Pretty far from
>> home, but maybe I could swing it.  Quick question: Can someone look at the
>> pics and tell me what's going on with the chainstay near the dropout.  It
>> looks kinda curvy to me.  I can't tell if my eyes are playing trick on me.
>> I read that some of the Toyo Atlantis models had curvy chainstays.  I had a
>> 58 once and it did have a pretty serious curve near the crank to allow for
>> more tire clearance with a shorter chainstay (downside was that it was hard
>> to fit a double crank without a super long BB).  I have never seen this
>> other curve near the dropouts.  What do you all think?
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1271004613561351/?
>> referralSurface=messenger_lightspeed_banner&referralCode=messenger_banner
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On Saturday, January 20, 2024 at 10:05:02 PM UTC-8 Drurad (Sacramento)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That's incredible marriage advice! Happy wife, happy bike, happy life.
>>> Hubbuhubbuh for the win.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 6:53 AM mgst...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Marriage counseling is mandatory, and the directive = get a
>>>> hubbuhubbuh, or you might want to call it a double platypus.
>>>> [image: Results for- bikes - 1 of 1.jpeg]
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 10:57:43 AM UTC-5 Drurad (Sacramento)
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I recently found a new home for my 60 Cheviot (wonderful guy: J Imler
>>>>> - see his post:
>>>>>
>>>>>  https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/9F0fvENp3i8/
>>>>> m/vyhQlH8DBAAJ
>>>>>
>>>>> I then found a Platypus that was more in my size range:
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: F5697369-C0A5-48C8-971D-078D405FB04F.jpeg]
>>>>>
>>>>> However, as soon as my wife laid eyes on it, it was no longer mine.
>>>>> She has decided to steal my Platypus and give up her 51 Sam (I will list 
>>>>> FS
>>>>> her tuxedo Sam on the list soon).
>>>>>
>>>>> This point of friction in our marriage can only be remedied in one way
>>>>> - by me getting a new bike.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I am in search of a new bike.  And I have set my ambitions high on
>>>>> this one.  I am reaching out to see if anyone has one of the following
>>>>> bikes (frameset preferred) that they would be willing to part with:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Hunq - 54
>>>>> 2. Atlantis - Toyo/Waterford - 56
>>>>> 3. Another Riv that shares a family resemblance with either of these
>>>>> two.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not only would it go to a good home, but you would be saving an
>>>>> otherwise good marriage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy Trails,
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Advantages of triple drivetrains (VO post)

2024-01-09 Thread Andrew Turner

I love a triple paired with an 8 speed or less corncob cassette matched to 
downtube shifters. That's an amazing roadie configuration right there. Not 
to mention bomb proof. But I think what rides equally as nice is 11 speed 
2x setups with a wide range cassette in the rear. The choice for me comes 
down to looks and vanity. Ron Mc's teaser drivetrain pic is really 
scratching an itch for me though! 
On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 5:36:47 PM UTC-6 DavidP wrote:

> I have a couple of bikes with 46/30 front rings and 11-34 cassettes; I end 
> up mainly using them like a double 1x (no, I don't use the 46x11) and for 
> these bikes I like it fine.
>
> In line with Bill's point, pairing a smaller front step with a wider range 
> cassette (but not too crazy) can work well. I recently ended up with a 2x9, 
> 42/34 x 11-40t setup on a bike and it's pretty nice for general use. The 
> smaller front step allows getting over rolling hills using front shifts 
> only, it's got great range (.85:1 - 3.8:1) and still doesn't end up with a 
> bunch of simultaneous front/rear shifting. And the 34t small ring lets you 
> use a standard 110 double crank.
>
> -Dave
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 6:13:54 PM UTC-5 J J wrote:
>
>> Steven, thanks for the point about how useful triples are for riding with 
>> big loads, whether for touring, day tripping, shopping, whatever. I 
>> frequently haul loads up hills on my already-heavy Rivs, so a wide gear 
>> range with 24-34-44  or a 26-36-46 triple and a 34- or 36-tooth large rear 
>> sprocket works great for me. I'm a tinkerer but I don't mess with my front 
>> ders. They're set it and forget it. I also love the way shiny triple cranks 
>> look. I've never felt compelled to try a 1x from a functional or aesthetic 
>> standpoint. 
>>
>> I agree with Johnny that much newfangled bike stuff and trends are driven 
>> by product differentiation and marketing. Sometimes what was once virtue 
>> becomes vice, sometimes what is old becomes new again. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 4:14:25 PM UTC-5 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>>> One point that I think is being missed, is for loaded touring bikes 
>>> triples make more sense. Though I am not camping I still am carrying around 
>>> 40 lbs on a 32 lb bike, low gears are especially useful on long and/or 
>>> steep hills. When home in central  New Hampshire many of my favorite roads 
>>> are diificult if not impossible for me to ride without a 15-18” gear.
>>>
>>> Steven Sweedler
>>> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 8:43 PM Chris Halasz  wrote:
>>>
 I'm planning on going from 3x to 1x on my all-around Tosco'd LHT. Maybe 
 even do that today, and replace the big ring with the Rivendell chainring 
 guard. 

 I haven't used the 48 in a long, long time. As for the 26 inner: there 
 was a t-shirt from the 80s from a bike shop in Ketchum that read, "if you 
 ain't hikin', you ain't mountain bikin'". If it gets that low, I 
 appreciate 
 the change in blood circulation by just walking those few minutes. 

 - Chris

 On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 12:30:47 PM UTC-8 John Hawrylak, 
 Woodstown NJ wrote:

> Bill L stated:   " If it were me, I'd experiment with a 42-tooth big 
> ring before going to a triple"
>
> Question to Bill:   Will a 42T large ring result in the FD hitting the 
> chain stay in the inner ring of a triple (say 24T or 26T) ???
>
> PS  I agree with your comment on the 46-11 being a very high gear.
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 3:21:33 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Ben
>>
>> You run a 46/30 with an 11-34 11sp cassette.  If it were me, I'd 
>> experiment with a 42-tooth big ring before going to a triple.  46x11 is 
>> pretty darn high for a commuter/city bike.  Anything higher than a 4:1 
>> in 
>> my book is for the sole purpose of pedaling at >>40mph.  That is a real 
>> use-case in hilly areas, but not for me, and especially not for a 
>> commuter/city bike.  That's just a suggestion.  The jump from 42 to 30 
>> is 
>> much less dramatic.  
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 11:25:39 AM UTC-8 bunny...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been kind of triple-curious again. I live in a hilly part of 
>>> L.A. My commuter/city bike has an 11-34 11s with a 46/30 front. I've 
>>> been 
>>> finding the 46 to 30 jump to feel pretty large. It feels much more 
>>> dramatic 
>>> than 50-34. For instance, if I switch big to small in the from, I'll 
>>> sift 
>>> down at least 3 cogs on the back to totally avoid spinning out 
>>> immediately. 
>>> I sometimes find myself mildly cross chaining in either direction to 
>>> find 
>>> the right gear.
>>>
>>> So I've been thinking of either going 1x, or 3x. My other bike is 
>>> 1x, a

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Feedback

2024-01-06 Thread Andrew Turner

Oh shoot, I didn't realize the Crust was 650b in smaller sizes. Velo Orange 
Rando frameset  is the 
only other production road frame that comes to mind, but I haven't 
read/heard much about it's ride quality. The modular dropouts are a really 
neat idea though. 

On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 11:32:26 AM UTC-6 eddietheflay wrote:

> As I wrote earlier and it looks like Ron is going in this direction:
>
> " I'd like to see a Columbus Spirit tubed frameset just like the Malocchio 
> with tigs, slanted top tube, threaded fork, and a nice powder coat at a 
> reasonable price. Kinda like a BMW 2002 from the olden days." I'd want 
> threaded fork cuz I need the rise offered by long quill stems.
>
>
> On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 9:27:46 AM UTC-8 four...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> A Riv may not be the bike for me this time.. I'm also considering a 
>> Litespeed Arenberg (the new one, seems like some good numbers) or maybe 
>> even splash out on a custom Fitz or Sycip here in Sonoma County.. 
>>
>> On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 9:23:21 AM UTC-8 Chris Fly wrote:
>>
>>> the issue with the Crust for me is the three smallest sizes seem to be 
>>> 650b and I don't really want a 650b bike.. plus the brake thing might bug 
>>> me if I did want to run larger tires in the future.. thanks Eddie! 
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 7:38:49 PM UTC-8 eddietheflay wrote:
>>>
 I have the same brakes front and rear and there is no issue with 35mm 
 tires. The OP wants a quick road bike so he'd  be fine too.

 On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 7:21:46 PM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> The big minus behind the crust is that they messed up the 
> manufacturing so it takes different brakes front and rear which is 
> bizarre. 
> Even more bizarre is that it requires smaller tires on the back than on 
> the 
> front. Unless you pay to have someone move the brake bridge (and then do 
> the repaint) that kind of stuff would always be nagging at the back of my 
> mind and cause me not to enjoy the bike.
>
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 7:14 PM eddietheflay  
> wrote:
>
>> Crust Malocchio. Real lugs, real lightweight tubing, decent 
>> clearance. Some things in its favor. Definitely not the looker that most 
>> Rivs are and without sloping top tube = good or not so? We could put 
>> some 
>> blocks on my pedals and you could try it.
>>
>> On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 6:05:49 PM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> The A Homer Hilsen comes with an 80mm drop, which could be one 
>>> reason you like it over the Roadini. But the Hilsen probably won't fit 
>>> in 
>>> my travel bike box.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 5, 2024, 17:54 Stephen Durfee  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Chris - I got my Roadini just over a year ago, a complete bike 
 purchased from a CL listing in South Carolina that I had shipped to 
 Napa. I 
 wanted a RIv so bad, and a "road bike" in particular, but was (perhaps 
 like 
 you), hoping to save a few bucks on a pre-owned model. I had 
 previously 
 visited HQ and talked with Will, who acknowledged that I was on the 
 cusp 
 between 54 and 57, and that either could be a good fit...I later 
 concluded 
 that I should have gone with the larger size - the one I got was a 54 
 in 
 "Old Blue", an earlier model which would not accept the larger tire 
 size 
 that the newer models do.  I liked the bike well enough that I 
 considered 
 investing in a brand new frame (that Gold is hot!) but also realized 
 that I 
 didn't love the components that came with that bike in the first 
 place.  
 And so, since I would have been essentially starting from scratch,  it 
 didn't take much convincing to grab that Homer frame that came up 
 locally, 
 and then build it up with the parts that I wanted. Now I have a bike 
 that I 
 love, love, love, in a size that fits!  I kept it lean, with some 
 Noodles 
 and 33mm Jack Browns, no racks and only a spare tire tool kit. The 
 Roadini 
 felt good, but the Homer feels great! And while I'm the first to 
 acknowledge that I know nothing about BB drop, or could comment on 
 flexiness, or even know how much it weighs...I feel fast when I'm on 
 it. 

 If in your heart, you want an orange 50, I'd say just wait. But 
 you're close enough to Walnut Creek to go have a spin on a new bike 
 and see 
 what you think. The newsletter that came out today says they 
 discovered one 
 Gold 50 in stock...

 On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 9:23:50 AM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> It's way more fle

Re: [RBW] Roadini Feedback

2024-01-06 Thread Andrew Turner

Ronny has a blog post about his Malocchio build and seems to really enjoy 
it. 
https://ronsbikesblog.com/2023/11/01/2052/ 

Compared to the Roadini, it's a fair bit lighter and the geometry is 
certainly geared more towards spirited riding. I owned 2 Roadinis, one 
larger size (gen 1) and a smaller size (gen 2)...I preferred the larger 
size with a more upright riding position (w/ drop bars). It was an 
exceptionally smooth ride, not necessarily quick, but very very smooth. 
Later I tried the smaller size thinking I could build it up with bars lower 
than the saddle and with some fatty 44mm tires. However,  I really didn't 
enjoy the feeling of the longer chainstays, especially when climbing out of 
the saddle, it just didn't feel like a road bike. I'd vote for the 
Malocchio. 

BUT, Ronny's also planning a collab with Beach Club to make a road bike 
with a sloped top tube, mid reach brakes and light steel fork...which is 
pretty much exactly what my new-to-me Waterford is. Makes for a perfect 
road bike IMO.  
https://ronsbikesblog.com/2023/12/18/beach-club-buzz/

But for something available now and more affordable, I don't think you 
could go wrong with a Malocchio. 
On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 9:02:20 AM UTC-6 David Hays wrote:

> If one is considering the Malocchio, I would check out the Romanceur Canti.
> Very light weight with the Reynolds 853 tubing, no strange brake matching 
> and greater tire compatibility.
> I love mine.
>
> David Hays
>
> On Jan 5, 2024, at 10:14 PM, eddietheflay  wrote:
>
> Crust Malocchio. Real lugs, real lightweight tubing, decent clearance. 
> Some things in its favor. Definitely not the looker that most Rivs are and 
> without sloping top tube = good or not so? We could put some blocks on my 
> pedals and you could try it.
>
> On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 6:05:49 PM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The A Homer Hilsen comes with an 80mm drop, which could be one reason you 
>> like it over the Roadini. But the Hilsen probably won't fit in my travel 
>> bike box.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 5, 2024, 17:54 Stephen Durfee  wrote:
>>
>>> Chris - I got my Roadini just over a year ago, a complete bike purchased 
>>> from a CL listing in South Carolina that I had shipped to Napa. I wanted a 
>>> RIv so bad, and a "road bike" in particular, but was (perhaps like you), 
>>> hoping to save a few bucks on a pre-owned model. I had previously visited 
>>> HQ and talked with Will, who acknowledged that I was on the cusp between 54 
>>> and 57, and that either could be a good fit...I later concluded that I 
>>> should have gone with the larger size - the one I got was a 54 in "Old 
>>> Blue", an earlier model which would not accept the larger tire size that 
>>> the newer models do.  I liked the bike well enough that I considered 
>>> investing in a brand new frame (that Gold is hot!) but also realized that I 
>>> didn't love the components that came with that bike in the first place.  
>>> And so, since I would have been essentially starting from scratch,  it 
>>> didn't take much convincing to grab that Homer frame that came up locally, 
>>> and then build it up with the parts that I wanted. Now I have a bike that I 
>>> love, love, love, in a size that fits!  I kept it lean, with some Noodles 
>>> and 33mm Jack Browns, no racks and only a spare tire tool kit. The Roadini 
>>> felt good, but the Homer feels great! And while I'm the first to 
>>> acknowledge that I know nothing about BB drop, or could comment on 
>>> flexiness, or even know how much it weighs...I feel fast when I'm on it. 
>>>
>>> If in your heart, you want an orange 50, I'd say just wait. But you're 
>>> close enough to Walnut Creek to go have a spin on a new bike and see what 
>>> you think. The newsletter that came out today says they discovered one Gold 
>>> 50 in stock...
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 9:23:50 AM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 It's way more flexy/comfy than my Custom Ti bike, which friends already 
 claim is flexy and comfy when they ride it (and which flexes like crazy 
 when I attach a trailer to it). It's overbuilt for me @ 145 pounds. If I 
 was 160 pounds I wouldn't consider it over built, and if I was 200 pounds 
 I 
 still wouldn't expect to break it. My big complaint is that I don't 
 consider 75mm BB drop to be sufficient for 30mm tires on the road. I want 
 80mm or 85mm drop for a bike built for modern style giant tires where you 
 wouldn't expect to ride anything smaller than 700x30.

 On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 9:19:37 AM UTC-8 four...@gmail.com wrote:

> I guess that's my concern is I'm not looking for a gravel bike.. I'm 
> looking for a zippy (fast-ish) road bike that will take larger tires.. 
> Also,  one of my main concerns is the bike will be overbuilt, meaning the 
> tubes will be heavy enough that it won't flex enough to be comfy.. 
>
> Thoughts? 
>
> On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 6:15:25 AM

Re: [RBW] Why do some bikes just feel consistently faster?

2024-01-04 Thread Andrew Turner

There's a BlueLug video on YouTube where they visit Mike Varley at his bike 
shop, and a similar question was asked about his frames and why they ride 
so well. This is a question I've had ever since riding a BMC Monstercross 
as it's an exceptionally fun and zippy ride for pretty unexceptional tubing 
and geometry, so I was keen to hear the secret come out..."I don't know 
why." LOL. He did suspect bottom bracket height being a contributing factor 
in the way a bike feels though. 

>From my experience, a faster feeling bicycle comes from 3 objective 
requirements: a bike designed with the intention of being ridden quickly ; 
2: the desire from the rider to ride said bike quickly. and 3: the rider 
being comfortable riding it. However, the key word in all of this is 
"feeling." I think the answer you're looking for lives somewhere in the 
deep, dark forests of subjectiveness, don't overthink it, just enjoy the 
kinship you found with your bike! 

- Andrew
On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 11:06:02 AM UTC-6 Ron Mc wrote:

> I used a Nitto double lamp bracket and mountain bar ends to add more grip 
> positions - Ahearne bar, same angles as Northwoods (and Jones-H), longer 
> ends.  
> Adds comfort options in a long ride, and makes a big difference with a 
> headwind.  
> [image: E0XMVWT.jpg]  [image: adK6urQ.jpg]   [image: rgmBJU1.jpg]
>
> My favorite recent mod was finding the Nitto Erlen saddle bag support, 
> which stacks on the seat rails - the Ostrich S-2 bag bottom sleeve 
> literally fits it like a glove.  
> [image: AQznVeB.jpg]  [image: b0acs4P.jpg]  [image: e8hOGnt.jpg]
> On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 10:35:19 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Ron. + 1 for John's Paramount. Also, interesting "North 
>> Road-type" bar setup with the aero extensions.
>>
>> Fit and position certainly makes (part of fit)  a huge difference and I'd 
>> guess it's the principal reason, or at least one of them, why some bikes 
>> just feel easier to pedal. That '58 Herse was like that: I just had to 
>> adjust saddle and bar height and angle slightly to make it fit and feel 
>> like one of my custom Rivendells. The Herse was 60 cm X 56 cm c-c (sure 
>> about the st, think the tt was 56) compared to the 57 c-c X 56.5 or 57 cm 
>> of the 1999 and 58 for the Matthews Riv clone, but those have sloping tts 
>> and extended steerers and heads and shorter stems so the fit is the same.
>>
>> I've moved the (original Flite) saddles forward by =/< 1 cm (on 73* sta) 
>> since the days when I used a rubber mallet on the nose to get them all the 
>> way back on the DA 7410 sps but I still like sitting back and leaning 
>> foward and pushing the cranks forward for momentary torque on climbs.
>>
>> Tires: The 2020 Matthews feels slightly slower with 42 mm Naches Passes 
>> (ELs) than with 28 mm Elk Passes (slightly; it hardly interferes with the 
>> pleasure of riding but I do notice a tiny bit more effort when accelerating 
>> and even while  maintaining cruising speed; and certainly the bike handles 
>> less nimbly). OTOH, those 622X60 Big Ones  Certainly not nimble but 
>> felt as fast at steady state as the Elk Passes.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 7:12 AM Ron Mc  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Patrick, 
>>> Riding position is a big factor in speed and spin power.  
>>> Getting your weight off the bar, and leaning into core muscles will find 
>>> an immediate burst of spin power that should take you up any grade.  
>>>
>>> Can only think of one tire size that made a difference.  Gee, I've never 
>>> ridden a 23, and haven't ridden a 25 since I was 40 years younger and, um, 
>>> 20 lbs lighter.  
>>> But this bike, Viner Pro CX built as upright, is the only bike where I 
>>> noticed a tire/speed difference.  
>>> (this is also the bike that gets the new Berthoud decaleur, replacing 
>>> the red straps)
>>> Photographed here in Laguna Atascosa NWR.  
>>> [image: a8PC190033.JPG]
>>>
>>> I first built this bike with 38-mm Barlow Pass and it felt lumbering.  
>>> Noted in our regular Sunday morning crack-of-dawn ride (kina like 
>>> bike-church), where the lead group always turns the first 7 miles into a 
>>> sprint to the Alamodome.  When I made the swap to 35-mm Bon Jon, found a 
>>> rolling efficiency difference, especially on the pavement, and these tires 
>>> do the job anywhere I want to take the bike.  After the tire swap, the 
>>> young guys on carbon bikes ask me if I have a motor in this bike.  
>>> And your Matthews is a beaut.  Your Paramount also, John.  
>>>
>>

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[RBW] WTT: My Sam H frameset, 60cm, HiHo silver BNIB, for your 61.5cm A. Homer Hilsen

2023-12-18 Thread Andrew S

Hi folks,

Very high chance of this going nowhere! I picked up a 60cm silver Sam 
Hillborne frameset from the last run, as I despaired of C&L ever receiving 
any Homers in Canada (still haven't), but I'd really really like a 61.5 
Homer with downtube shifter mounts and caliper brakes (Jason F will be 
rolling his eyes about now). Would thus need to be from one of the latest 
runs. Not too concerned about color (though mustard would be dreamy).

Maybe you'd like to go the other way (ie. canti/v brakes). Maybe your Homer 
is just a touch too big. Maybe you live in the Bay Area, kinda want a Sam 
(currently sold out, I think), and could pick up a Homer at HQ (avoiding 
shipping costs) with the current discount code and could thereby 
effectively get a discounted new Sam from me. Maybe (most likely) you don't 
exist..

I'll expect crickets, but would love to hear your thoughts. As usual, 
details of shipping etc would need to be massaged, but I'd do what I can to 
make it reasonable to consider trading with a canuck. 

Thanks in advance!

andrew in Calgary


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Re: [RBW] PSA: Classic TA Zephyr Triple Touring Crankset 172.5 - eBay auction

2023-12-07 Thread Andrew Letton

Wow! That is a rare one! I've never before seen a crankset with both 74mm and
58mm (or is it 56mm?) inner ring patterns.Has anyone else ever made such a
crankset?cheers,Andrew in Sydney
On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 01:34:55 PM GMT+11, Kim H.
wrote:

Here is currently an eBay auction for fine and rare triple crankset:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126181646585?hash=item1d610320f9:g:6vcAAOSwGTBlT-uC&amdata=enc%3AAQAI8KzA33vnBXsDG%2F1RiID%2BMqbW42cokDpl8JpwC1jxJEzfBhclfArnXKM3RPrHYQJUuFgXooLS8Q5r8dDNoj5Vv%2Fw5f9lCAli%2FAbO5GBMTbCq13Q10Sl%2FAkagOJPL3PTjouSs5sCvDEe%2BKU5X16w4BF3Er91BCDiFgYBtm4CHwkLpaSfkzF%2FqbxiZ3L9sd2eMl52vEPDLOdqV61CXGEaxhu9FpUgSdgmzcWA%2Fm4R9X1EmYIDD08HLVm3fU2Md6qWnvE8pFyKZfF4mWM05fI0fUhsxkKT9xacLNLZUNKN80KYJ42GvPj2h3660xLnAa1MEoBA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6zZpPSIYw
I have no interest.
Kim Hetzel happy with my crankset and gearing. 2x9.

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Re: [RBW] Gunnar Crosshairs

2023-12-03 Thread Andrew Turner

Miraculously I found it second-hand on eBay. The seller accepted my offer 
for just the frameset and it's been hands-down my favorite bike to ride. 
I'll share a separate post with all the details later next week when it's 
more dialed. 

On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 11:55:24 PM UTC-6 Kieran J wrote:

> I love that Waterford. My size too! Did you have it made or found it 
> second-hand? Do you happen to know the stack/reach on it?
>
> KJ
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 9:25:08 AM UTC-8 andyree...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Holy smokes, looks like we found similar Waterfords around the same time. 
>> Similar frame color too! Now I feel vindicated for this morning's purchase 
>> of blue cotton tape to pair with that graphite/champaign color. Looks 
>> sharp!  
>>
>> [image: Image_20231129_112313 (1).jpeg]
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 6:46:35 PM UTC-6 exliontamer wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 46/30  with an 11-28 cassette. The brakes are Shimano CX-50s 
>>> which I've always had good luck with. I snapped a photo but these are 
>>> measured 38s. The chain stays are the only section that's remotely tight. 
>>> Maybe room for a 40 or 42? Either way, I usually prefer 32-38 for road so 
>>> this is perfect for my purposes. [image: IMG_5104.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 1:35:44 PM UTC-6 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
 Having owned both a Crosshairs and a Roadini, I think you made the good 
 choice. Enjoy it!

 Eric


 On Tuesday, November 28, 2023, exliontamer  wrote:

> Got this built up & just wanted to share. I was looking for a Roadini 
> but this happened to pop up in my size & the price was too good to 
> resist. 
> Can't speak highly enough about it. Wish I liked the Gunnar "Star Wars" 
> logo more but that's my only complaint. Very happy to have a tiny piece 
> of 
> Waterford history. 
> [image: IMG_5103.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Silver2 cranks!

2023-11-30 Thread Andrew Letton

I had that same cracking on a Specialized (Sugino) Flag triple crank, solved
it with some judicious filing, and have been riding it for a couple of decades
since with no further sign of cracking.cheers,Andrew in Sydney

On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 09:07:15 AM GMT+11, 'Eric Norris' via RBW
Owners Bunch wrote:

The crack on Campy Record/Super Record spiders was the result of the very
sharp edge at that location. A common fix back in the day was a few minutes’
work with a round file to take the edge off that part of the crankset.
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On Nov 30, 2023, at 1:13 PM, RichS wrote:
As a long time Sugino hidden bolt user I agree the chainring removel/install
process can be onerous. Over a period of time and you develop a technique (like
Bill has kindly shared) I do believe it becomes easier. And, as my wife always
tells me, "patience is a virtue". A useful mantra for much of the bike
tinkering I do. Metal fender installation comes to mind here.
Something not mentioned in this discussion is the quality or consistency of
chainring nuts & bolts. I have sometimes switched out nuts and bolts when the
nut tool isn't making a tight connection. Steel or aluminum? Does that make a
difference? I don't know; I've always used steel.
Best,Rich in ATL
On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 3:35:21 PM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:

On Friday, 1 December 2023 at 1:11:08 am UTC+11 Bill Lindsay wrote:

The hidden arm was definitely invented just to make a different look, and we
were supposed to think that look was preferable.
It does minimise the problem that some cranks have/have had where cracking
develops at the join between the crank and adjacent spider arm because of the
acute angle between them. I can remember having to retire a couple of
Campagnolo Super Record cranks that I was racing on back in the 1980s because
cracks had developed at this point. e.g. - This image is from pardo.net, but
it's identical to the cracks I found.

That said, it works out great for me that so many people seem to have such a
hard time with hidden bolt cranks, because I've never had a problem with it,
and your shared struggles has got to help drive the price down for me. Walking
around my garage, there are four bikes with hidden arm Ritcheys, three with
hidden arm Sugino, and two with hidden arm Campy.
Ditto here. There must be half a dozen bikes in our garage using cranks with
the hidden chainring bolt behind the arm, and I've not had any problems
changing chainrings on them.
Nick Payne

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: XL custom powdercoated Crust Noreaster Complete

2023-11-18 Thread Andrew Turner

Sold!!

On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 9:10:37 PM UTC-6 Andrew Turner wrote:

> It’s cool! I don’t think I’ve had it long enough to really dial it in, but 
> ever since I saw this same setup from the tumblr page, nutmegcountry, I 
> wanted to replicate it.  
>
> Before these I had 46cm noodles and that was also a comfy ride, but less 
> confidence inspiring off-road. I have a hunch some bullmoose bars would be 
> the ticket for ultimate magic carpet atb’n….partially why I’m selling it, 
> I’d want to reconfigure this damn thing constantly…meanwhile I’m riding a 
> road bike 90% of the time.  
>
> Stand over is roughly 89cm from ground to top of top tube, saddle height 
> is roughly 80cm from bb to top of saddle. As pictured, the seatpost is 
> quite higher than that measurement, I forgot to set it before snapping the 
> pic. I’m 6’2” with a pbh of roughly 91cm. 
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 8:56 PM DamonLee  wrote:
>
>> That is a thing of beauty! Unfortunately I am not in a position to 
>> purchase but curious how this fram road with swept back bars? And what is 
>> you PBH?
>> Someone needs to grab this bargain!
>> On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 3:31:48 AM UTC+11 andyree...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey group, I'm looking to sell my Noreaster complete bike. All parts 
>>> except for some of the drivetrain components have ~100 miles on them so 
>>> it's all still quite new. Photos can be found here: 
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/TvA4uH1sioVBoKW46 
>>>
>>> General breakdown: 
>>> Crust Noreaster frameset size XL custom powder coated chestnut brown w/ 
>>> patina'd brass accents throughout 
>>>
>>> Crust 700c dynamo wheelset (I had the frame resized to 130 rear but it 
>>> can easily be moved back if that's your thing) w/ Ultegra skewers / 
>>> lightweight 8 speed cassette 11-30 or 28, I can't remember. 
>>>
>>> RH Antelope Hill 55mm extra light tires (tan) 
>>>
>>> Nitto S83 post, dirt drop stem, Albatross bars, Campee front rack 
>>>
>>> Paul Pewter touring cantis w/ matching levers + gold moon units 
>>>
>>> Shimano 600 headset w/ patina'd steel cable hangers / stack spacer 
>>>
>>> All-polished Carmina triple crankset 46-36-26, some pretty dramatic heal 
>>> rub on both crank arms from the previous owner. 
>>>
>>> Spank Oozy black pedals 
>>>
>>> Ultegra / Suntour derailleurs 
>>>
>>> Dura Ace 8 speed indexed downtube shifters 
>>>
>>> Selle Anatomica R2 saddle 
>>>
>>> Lezyne frame pump 
>>>
>>> AND a used-once Large Fabs Chest saddle bag (waxed brown + green canvas) 
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> This bike rides amazing but I flew a little too close to the sun with 
>>> the build
>>>
>>> Asking price is $1900 + shipping 
>>>
>>> Cheers! 
>>> Andrew - Brentwood, TN
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: XL custom powdercoated Crust Noreaster Complete

2023-11-15 Thread Andrew Turner

It’s cool! I don’t think I’ve had it long enough to really dial it in, but
ever since I saw this same setup from the tumblr page, nutmegcountry, I
wanted to replicate it.

Before these I had 46cm noodles and that was also a comfy ride, but less
confidence inspiring off-road. I have a hunch some bullmoose bars would be
the ticket for ultimate magic carpet atb’n….partially why I’m selling it,
I’d want to reconfigure this damn thing constantly…meanwhile I’m riding a
road bike 90% of the time.

Stand over is roughly 89cm from ground to top of top tube, saddle height is
roughly 80cm from bb to top of saddle. As pictured, the seatpost is quite
higher than that measurement, I forgot to set it before snapping the pic.
I’m 6’2” with a pbh of roughly 91cm.


On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 8:56 PM DamonLee  wrote:

> That is a thing of beauty! Unfortunately I am not in a position to
> purchase but curious how this fram road with swept back bars? And what is
> you PBH?
> Someone needs to grab this bargain!
> On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 3:31:48 AM UTC+11 andyree...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hey group, I'm looking to sell my Noreaster complete bike. All parts
>> except for some of the drivetrain components have ~100 miles on them so
>> it's all still quite new. Photos can be found here:
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/TvA4uH1sioVBoKW46
>>
>> General breakdown:
>> Crust Noreaster frameset size XL custom powder coated chestnut brown w/
>> patina'd brass accents throughout
>>
>> Crust 700c dynamo wheelset (I had the frame resized to 130 rear but it
>> can easily be moved back if that's your thing) w/ Ultegra skewers /
>> lightweight 8 speed cassette 11-30 or 28, I can't remember.
>>
>> RH Antelope Hill 55mm extra light tires (tan)
>>
>> Nitto S83 post, dirt drop stem, Albatross bars, Campee front rack
>>
>> Paul Pewter touring cantis w/ matching levers + gold moon units
>>
>> Shimano 600 headset w/ patina'd steel cable hangers / stack spacer
>>
>> All-polished Carmina triple crankset 46-36-26, some pretty dramatic heal
>> rub on both crank arms from the previous owner.
>>
>> Spank Oozy black pedals
>>
>> Ultegra / Suntour derailleurs
>>
>> Dura Ace 8 speed indexed downtube shifters
>>
>> Selle Anatomica R2 saddle
>>
>> Lezyne frame pump
>>
>> AND a used-once Large Fabs Chest saddle bag (waxed brown + green canvas)
>>
>> ---
>>
>> This bike rides amazing but I flew a little too close to the sun with the
>> build
>>
>> Asking price is $1900 + shipping
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Andrew - Brentwood, TN
>>
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[RBW] FS: XL custom powdercoated Crust Noreaster Complete

2023-11-15 Thread Andrew Turner

Hey group, I'm looking to sell my Noreaster complete bike. All parts except 
for some of the drivetrain components have ~100 miles on them so it's all 
still quite new. Photos can be found here: 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/TvA4uH1sioVBoKW46 

General breakdown: 
Crust Noreaster frameset size XL custom powder coated chestnut brown w/ 
patina'd brass accents throughout 

Crust 700c dynamo wheelset (I had the frame resized to 130 rear but it can 
easily be moved back if that's your thing) w/ Ultegra skewers / lightweight 
8 speed cassette 11-30 or 28, I can't remember. 

RH Antelope Hill 55mm extra light tires (tan) 

Nitto S83 post, dirt drop stem, Albatross bars, Campee front rack 

Paul Pewter touring cantis w/ matching levers + gold moon units 

Shimano 600 headset w/ patina'd steel cable hangers / stack spacer 

All-polished Carmina triple crankset 46-36-26, some pretty dramatic heal 
rub on both crank arms from the previous owner. 

Spank Oozy black pedals 

Ultegra / Suntour derailleurs 

Dura Ace 8 speed indexed downtube shifters 

Selle Anatomica R2 saddle 

Lezyne frame pump 

AND a used-once Large Fabs Chest saddle bag (waxed brown + green canvas) 

---

This bike rides amazing but I flew a little too close to the sun with the 
build

Asking price is $1900 + shipping 

Cheers! 
Andrew - Brentwood, TN

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Rack

2023-11-12 Thread Andrew Schell

Kiley, I’ve got a 64 Clem L rolling chassis (embarrassingly not yet built up) and a 1UP rack which I’ve (embarrassingly) not yet tried it on. If you haven’t gotten a definitive answer before then, I’ll throw it on and take some photos when we’re back from our vacation on Thursday.andrewSent from my iPhoneOn Nov 12, 2023, at 10:56 AM, Brian Turner wrote:Kiley, I think the best answer for those who have long wheelbase issues, is to get a rear rack with the dual rack arms that adjust to secure both wheels of the bike (like the design of 1Up racks, or the Kuat Piston series). The wheelbase limitations of the Kuat Piston series is 53 inches, and I think most 1Up racks will handle a max. of 54 inches. Personally, I have a Kuat NV2, but it only has an adjustable rack arm for the front wheel, and a strap for the rear wheel. The max wheelbase on that style of rack is 50 inches. My 54 (Medium) Gus has an exactly 50" wheelbase, so it JUST fits. Anything longer would not.I guess ease of personal transport and urban multi-modal transportation was not a factor in the evolution of these bikes. They ride great, but it's a very real and often frustrating issue that us owners have to work through.BrianLex KYOn Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 12:39:40 PM UTC-5 Kiley Demond wrote:Super-size the question: My Clem L is a 59; looking/considering a Clem L 64 for my HE (husband equivalent). How in the world do we transport these behemoths? The idea is for some off-road, away-from-home adventures, but the whole rack thing needs to be managed. We could remove wheels for transport, but then need a rack that will take the 'L' Clems and grab the frames. Thank you for your collective wisdom!

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Re: [RBW] Stolen 1995 Rivendell Road Standard recovered!

2023-11-06 Thread Andrew Letton

Great news, Adrianna! I'm happy for you.
I can't really tell from the resolution of the photo, but it looks like it is
just the decals that were painted or marked over. If they used a Sharpie pen,
acetone should remove the pen markings without damaging the paint job (but test
in a small area to be sure!). If they used paint, some paints may be dissolved
by acetone as well. I'm fairly certain that the original paint will not be
harmed by acetone, but again, I would test this in an inconspicuous spot first.
Cheers!Andrew in Sydney
On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 09:07:17 AM GMT+11, Adrianna T
wrote:

Hi all,
Just thought to share the good news. A few months ago, my Riv was stolen from
my garage in San Francisco. I got it back this week.
The gist of the story was that a bike person in my community came across this
bike, figured it was stolen, got it from the person selling it, and contacted
me.

All the parts were intact, except bags and lights and bottle cages, and the
bike was totally fine. Someone had painted over the lugs in a black and blue
and it's kind of ugly, but that's maybe a good story to tell some day.
I am so happy!
-Adrianna

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto rack, silver brakes, LX Rapid Rise, RMX pedals

2023-11-01 Thread Andrew Huston

Interested in the Lx rear der, 
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 8:43:12 PM UTC-4 jeffbog...@hotmail.com 
wrote:

> NOS Nitto R14 rear rack - $100
> NOS Rivendell Silver brakes - $50
> NOS LX RR rear derailleur - $50
> RMX sneaker pedals - $20
>
> Rack, Brakes, Rear Derailleur used < 45 miles, perfect shape.
> Please send PM for interest, thanks for looking!
>
> Jeff
> (Alabama)
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[RBW] Re: Exploration: Make your own pump peg

2023-10-28 Thread Andrew Turner

Out of the 3 pumps I have, none of them fit this Waterford frame I'm 
building up the way I like, (btw. the rear QR skewer lever and seatube 
cluster as recommended above). So I submit to the group my Campy-Shiv made 
out of the much-unwanted 53t chainring. The cherry on top is that it saves 
me a whopping 8 grams compared to the ol' hoseclamp trick.  

[image: campyshiv.jpeg] 

Andrew _ TN

On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 1:45:25 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Since I first posted back in January of this past year, I did a 
> modification to my frame pump peg. I am more happy with it now, than before.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.[image: 20230223_200659.jpg]
>
> On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 7:57:32 PM UTC-7 Jim Whorton wrote:
>
>> Here's another homemade pump peg.  I got this red Silca pump for $5 at a 
>> local sale today.  Mounted it with a P clamp, a spacer, and a brass wing 
>> nut that I filed to a peglike point.  
>>
>> [image: IMG_0055.jpg]
>> [image: IMG_0053.jpg]
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 10:05:38 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I read Will's post about how to make your own pump peg on the Blug a 
>>> long while back: 
>>>
>>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/185595499869/how-to-make-your-own-pump-pegs
>>>
>>> You take a p-clamp, some spacers and modify a Nitto strut and you've got 
>>> a pump peg somewhere you might not have had one before. Will likes to put 
>>> his in the rear triangle and you'll notice them mounted this way on a lot 
>>> of his bikes.  
>>>
>>> [image: tumblr_inline_pt3zzjpbXk1qdvnvk_500.jpg]
>>> [image: tumblr_inline_pt401jwzC21qdvnvk_500.jpg]
>>>
>>> This is great, I love it, cool hack! But I've always wanted for a 
>>> version that doesn't require tracking down and destroying a Nitto strut. 
>>> Riv HQ is probably awash in Nitto struts and they have em poking out of the 
>>> coffee cans on everyone's desk all over the place. But not so for me, Nitto 
>>> struts are precious few in my shed. 
>>>
>>> I think I came up with the right shape and this weekend I picked up an 
>>> electrical ring terminal in the 10-12 size, yellow sleeve. 
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2023-01-17 at 9.56.39 PM.png][image: Screen Shot 
>>> 2023-01-17 at 9.56.44 PM.png]
>>>
>>> Holding the ring end with one pair of pliers you can easily remove the 
>>> yellow sleeve with a second pair of pliers. A pack of 15 is $4.50. If your 
>>> local hardware store has a bulk/loose hardware section you can get one for 
>>> around 55¢ (at least I did). 
>>>
>>> Paired with a 3/8" insulated cable clamp (2 for $2.20), a few serrated 
>>> brake washers, an M5 bolt and a nylock nut I had a fashioned a pump peg. 
>>> Didn't have to cut or shape any metal or destroy any high-end Japanese rack 
>>> struts. 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_4875.JPG]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_4874.JPG]
>>>
>>> I have yet to SUPER TEST this out but wanted to share all the same. 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] ISO 26" wheelset

2023-10-06 Thread Andrew Huston

Ideally something with decent hubs (deore) and 32h if possible. Looking for 
some 2.1ish tires as well. Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks B68, XS Saddlesack, Nitto Nuts/Struts, Tires, deore QR skewers

2023-09-30 Thread Andrew Huston

I’ll take the skewers 

On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 2:27:48 PM UTC-4 jeffbog...@hotmail.com 
wrote:

> (1) Brooks B68 - ridden once, not for me - $145
> (1) XS Rivendell Saddlesack tan - $65
> (2) Nitto rack nut and bolt -  $10/ea
> (4) Nitto struts 21cm $5/ea
> (2) Schwalbe Big Ben 700x50 raceguard - $25/pair
> (2) Specialized Renegade 700x2.1"tubeless - $15/pair
> F/R Deore Quick Release skewers 135/100 - $15/pair
>
> Please send PM for interest, thanks for looking! 
> Jeff (Alabama)
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Re: [RBW] FS ALBATROSS BARS

2023-09-20 Thread Andrew Letton

 Are they ChroMoly or aluminum?cheers,Andrew in Sydney
On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 11:50:28 PM GMT+10, Davey Two Shoes 
 wrote:  
 
 Hey Gang,I've got an albatross for sale $90 plus shipping. Shoot me a PM and 
I'll email pics. I cant seem to upload right now.
Thanks!Dave

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Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto Bosco, Nitto Stems, Compass + Schwalbe Tires, Velocity Dyad Front Wheel

2023-09-14 Thread Andrew Letton

Hi Bryan,I believe the tall stem you have listed is a Periscopa, not a Dirt
Drop.See: Nitto Stem Comparison

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Nitto Stem Comparison

Periscopa, DirtDrop 8, DirtDrop 10, Tech Std, Tech Dlx, Lugged. Not pictured is
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cheers,Andrew in Sydney

On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 07:06:48 AM GMT+10, Bryan Dalik
wrote:

Hi all,
Listing a few things for sale here:
Nitto Bosco bars 58cm - I believe they're heat treated, in like new condition.
Comes with original plastic packaging. Neat Nitto logos on these. Looking for
$100 shipped.
Nitto Technomic Stem 130mm/140mm - For 25.4mm bars. It's quite a long reach.
Pulled off a Clem, would be great for Bosco bars or anything with a lot of
sweepback. Like new condition as well. Looking for $45 shipped. Happy to
package the bars and stem for $130 for both.
Nitto Dirt Drop stem 80mm - For 25.4mm bars. This has a bit of cosmetic wear,
but is in perfectly fine shape. Looking for $50 shipped.
Velocity Dyad Front Wheel - 700c. Great rim brake rim, tubes only. Comes with
Shimano Deore LX hub. Been used some, so some brake wear. In good shape,
perfectly true. Looking for $110 shipped.
Compass Barlow Pass 38mm tires - Been used some but plenty of tread left.
Looking for 50$ shipped.
Schwalbe Big Ben 28x2.0 tires - Pulled off a Clem as well. These fit 700c rims.
Not much use at all on these. Looking for $40 shipped.
Photos for all parts -
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1eMwZeFGzprQRbfHsHI-efy28sICdQ3FY?usp=sharing
Feel free to reach out. Thank you!
Bryan

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Rivendell anorak windbreaker XL in orange

2023-08-27 Thread Andrew Letton

Bump... 

Anyone, anyone...?

Cheers,
Andrew

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 9:33:45 AM UTC+11 Andrew Letton wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I missed out on the one just listed, so I'm asking whether anyone else 
> might want to sell the one gathering dust in their closet...
>
> [image: Inline image]
>
> I use the one I have pretty regularly for commuting, and it's getting 
> kinda' ratty. A replacement would be nice.
>
> Please reply offlist.
>
> cheers,
> Andrew
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS 53 Susie Longbolts

2023-08-26 Thread Andrew Huston

I thought I had a buyer but things fell thru. Still on the block! 

Also have a medium black Riv t shirt and  VeloCult, only worn maybe twice. 
Its the pocket tee with the fork lug on the back.  Any takers?

On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 10:20:39 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:

> I'm surprised this hasn't sold. I had been watching and waiting since they 
> were announced for a medium to come up for sale used. I finally found one 
> locally earlier this summer. Like my Gus, it is a wildly fun bike to ride. 
> I am almost tempted to have multiple Susie's with different set-ups but 
> really someone else should buy this and see what it is like.  Maybe if you 
> created a google or flikr photo album, people would have more chance to see 
> it in detail and appreciate it. 
>
>
>
> On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 5:10:07 PM UTC-6 Andrew Huston wrote:
>
>> Bump on this. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 9:30:06 PM UTC-4 Andrew Huston wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 6:43:18 PM UTC-4 Andrew Huston wrote:
>>>
>>>> Really a wonderful bike but I continually find I need to explore new 
>>>> bikes. Its my hobby, what can I say?
>>>> Beautiful gold Susie with a nice build is on the block. 
>>>> Velocity Cliffhanger rims laced to Deore hubs, Terravail Ehline 2.5 tan 
>>>> wall
>>>> Deore 11 speed RD, shifter, and cassette
>>>> Middleburn crank 36T ring
>>>> Kalloy post
>>>> Velo Orange Siene bars with a Jim stem 80mm
>>>> Also have a set of Rambler bars 
>>>>
>>>> Looking for $2700 plus packing and shipping cost. Located in Michigan. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will add photos when I get to my personal computer otherwise shoot me 
>>>> an email or text and I can get those to you. 
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>> 810-841-4396 <(810)%20841-4396>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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Re: [RBW] Summer Riding in Alberta

2023-08-22 Thread Andrew Letton

Love it! Especially the butterfly cameo!cheers from Oz,Andrew
On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 01:36:32 AM GMT+10, Mack Penner
wrote:

Hi people,I have been on a small eric rohmer kick this year, and when I
started watching the tales of the four seasons it occurred to me that it would
be fun to document a week of riding in every season. I had the idea in the
summer, so first up is my tale of the summer. Nothin' fancy, I just perched my
phone on my water bottle like a hundred times during my daily rides in the week
from 14-18 August. I was gonna put it to music, but then I thought that if the
goal is to document seasonal riding vibes the sounds that the season makes are
important! Filmed in southern alberta on my atlantis, my joe, my homer, and
finally my quickbeam. Vid's here. Hope you find it fun!Enjoy the rest of
August,Mack

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[RBW] Nitto Campee 27F rack vs rack combos

2023-08-15 Thread Andrew Turner

Hello group!
I recently purchased the Nitto Mini Campee front rack for my rando bag with
the idea of adding something like a TUBUS low rider or Marks Hub Area rack
(MF2) for pannier- carrying come S24O time.

Then I remembered Nitto's most grandiose front rack, the Campee 27F and
from my POV, that seems like the smartest, most elegant solution for a bike
that will always carry a central bag with the option of adding panniers.
The only rub is that rack is out of stock everywhere...it seems like Nitto
might not even be making it anymore *(this is pure speculation but it also
seems like VO dropped their front-camper rack as well)*. Any insights on
this? Is it just an incredibly time-consuming rack, they only make a very
small batch of them at a time?

The main reason why the Campee 27F is calling my name is that the low-rider
racks are both modular AND angled. It doesn't seem like the MF2 or Tubus
offerings have that feature and I was wondering if anyone here feels a
difference in ride-quality between angled and vertical low-rider panniers.

Would the Nitto Mini Campee and MF2 combo check all the boxes or is the
Campee 27F still the GROAT and worth the wait?

- Andrew

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[RBW] Re: FS 53 Susie Longbolts

2023-08-06 Thread Andrew Huston

Bump on this. 

On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 9:30:06 PM UTC-4 Andrew Huston wrote:

> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 6:43:18 PM UTC-4 Andrew Huston wrote:
>
>> Really a wonderful bike but I continually find I need to explore new 
>> bikes. Its my hobby, what can I say?
>> Beautiful gold Susie with a nice build is on the block. 
>> Velocity Cliffhanger rims laced to Deore hubs, Terravail Ehline 2.5 tan 
>> wall
>> Deore 11 speed RD, shifter, and cassette
>> Middleburn crank 36T ring
>> Kalloy post
>> Velo Orange Siene bars with a Jim stem 80mm
>> Also have a set of Rambler bars 
>>
>> Looking for $2700 plus packing and shipping cost. Located in Michigan. 
>>
>>
>>
>> I will add photos when I get to my personal computer otherwise shoot me 
>> an email or text and I can get those to you. 
>>
>> Andrew
>> 810-841-4396 <(810)%20841-4396>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Experience with TRP Ultra-Ergo Brake Levers

2023-07-29 Thread Andrew Wentzell

These levers come from TRP with a little plastic wedge piece that sits 
under the top of the clamp and causes the the lever to rotate down a bit 
when installed. You can install the levers with or without the wedge, 
depending on how you prefer them to be angled. It sounds like you might 
want them angled down more than they are. Do you have these wedges? If not, 
you can buy them from TRP separately for around $10 for a pair, IIRC. Or 
see if Riv has some in a bin.

On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 12:52:43 PM UTC-4 wls...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello all, 
>
> After pining over Rivendells for years, I recently purchased a used 
> Atlantis and have been loving it. It came with the TRP Ultra-Ergo Brake 
> Levers that Riv sells, and was set up as shown in the photos on Riv's 
> website. I couldn't get used to the slope of the levers being so vertical, 
> and was experiencing some wrist pain when using them, so when I recently 
> did a bar swap for some wider bars, I adjusted them to be more level. 
> However, that also feels a bit odd, and I can tell they were not really 
> designed to be mounted that way on the drop bars. I will likely adjust them 
> again somewhere in the middle from where they are now, and how they were 
> when I first bought the bike, but curious to know if anyone else has a 
> similar experience with these, or if I should just raise them back up and 
> see if I get used to it. Photo of current bike set-up is below. 
>
> [image: IMG_3322.jpg]
>

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[RBW] FS: Nitto SP72 Jaguar 27.2mm seatpost

2023-07-25 Thread Andrew S

My first 'FS' post, let's try this and hope for the best

This was on my recently acquired 62cm Saluki (photos and/or ride report to
follow once I've got it properly set up..). On that note, huge thanks
to Todd T in Hercules (not sure if he's on the list), the purchase and
shipping experience could not have been smoother and the bike is a dream to
ride!

I had hoped to make it work, it's a beautiful post, but it's just a touch
too short (250mm), and with my long legs and short torso I don't think I'll
be able to use it on any other bike in the current stable.

Very good condition. Looks like it lists for 189usd at Crust and Merry
Sales, so maybe let's try $100usd including shipping in US/Canada, Paypal
(sorry we can't access Venmo up here), provided that I can secure a
not-too-crazy rate from up here in Alberta (have had pretty good luck with
Netparcel, which usually uses UPS as the most cost effective carrier)?

I'm always open to interesting trades as well

Imgur link to photos:

https://imgur.com/a/X2gNijU

Thanks for the opportunity, and happy to address any issues with the post!

andrew in Calgary

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-25 Thread Andrew Turner

I dig Jan’s take on bike weight: your bike shouldn’t weigh more than it has
to. As long as you have a good understanding of the bikes purpose and your
riding style, your gut will know better than a bathroom scale.

On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 12:50 PM Piaw Na  wrote:

>
> 2 cents: don't get carried away with frame weight, especially when
> comparing steel frames. I'd focus more on geometry. I wanted my Roadini
> build to scratch the same itch but the long wheelbase didn't align with my
> idea of a zippy, skinny-tire road bike.
>
>
> Geometry is by far the most important thing on a road bike. And I include
> the diameter of the tubes as well as the wall thickness. Having said that,
> I don't think I'd ever consider weight unimportant. If you're a heavy
> rider, maybe it matters less, but the lighter you are the more weight
> matters. At 140 pounds or so (going down to 130 pounds when touring), the
> difference between a 30 pound MTB and a 24 pound Roadini is very
> noticeable. Lighter bikes also mean I have an easier time placing the
> wheels precisely on a single track trail. They're also way more fun to
> ride. Finally, if you ever have to fly with the bike, United airlines has a
> 50 pound limit for those of us who're not premiere or paying for business
> class international flights. A lighter bike lets you fly with the bike in a
> sturdy trico ironcase (weight 30 pounds!) without having to pay the $200
> oversize/overweight penalty. I do everything I can to shave the weight of a
> bike down without sacrificing reliability. I simply don't have any excess
> power to waste!
>
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[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-23 Thread Andrew Turner


2 cents: don't get carried away with frame weight, especially when 
comparing steel frames. I'd focus more on geometry. I wanted my Roadini 
build to scratch the same itch but the long wheelbase didn't align with my 
idea of a zippy, skinny-tire road bike. 
Conversely, I had the opportunity to purchase a 15lb carbon road bike, and 
I thought, now THIS is the chance to see if weight really does make a 
difference, and it does...when you pick the thing up...When riding, I 
really don't notice a difference besides slghtly sketchier descending.

Stick with your gut and upcycle a cool 90s frame! And avoid weight weenie 
tendencies when it comes to steel bikes. 

On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 4:53:35 PM UTC-5 Valerie Yates wrote:

> I am not in the market for a Roadini but I love reading all these stories 
> and comparisons. Very fun topic. 
>
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 11:46:37 AM UTC-6 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> Wow, an '81 Sequoia! Those are very rare since only about 700 were made 
>> by hand. In '82 is when production ramped up. Please post a picture if you 
>> can.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 11:58:26 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Very nice build, Bones!  B) 
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 11:05:30 AM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>>>
 I started with an Appaloosa, which I built as a workhorse to ferry my 
 kids around. I wanted something without all the racks and utility so I 
 purchased a Hillborne. Great bike, but I found it too similar to my 
 Appaloosa so I moved it along and bought a Roadini. It was exactly what I 
 was looking for. No, it is not a delicate, lightweight bike. That is to my 
 benefit, as I can do stupid things to it without worrying about it being 
 damaged. It is a Rivendell, and it rides like all of my other Rivendells. 
 It currently resides at my parents' house, and I make a point to ride it 
 whenever I visit. I love that bike.

 [image: roadini2.jpg]

 Bones

 On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:49:48 AM UTC-4 chasenl...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> [image: IMG_4997.jpeg]
>
> I am about 200 miles into my orange-ass roadini and I love it. Set up 
> with a23s, dirt drops, cavas and an analog 30mm stem. It is not flexy and 
> light like my rb 2. It is no sports car. Its like a benz, smooth and 
> comfy. 
> I have a 90 stumpjumper (that I’m convinced could be the worlds greatest 
> bicycle), and the roadini is v similar, minus canti post, add practical 
> geometry. It is definitely stout, which makes the lack of rack mounts 
> annoying, but its not t stout. To me, it feels like a road tourer, 
> not 
> a zippy speed machine. I think a crust mallochio or lightning bolt might 
> be 
> lighter/flexier/zippier. 
> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 10:03:16 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> This paragraph is from Will's recent email... If this sounds like 
>> what you're looking for then I say buy one. 
>>
>> "Yes, the Roadini is heavier than a carbon frame, but, and even 
>> though it's a cliche phrase at this point, *it rides light* and I 
>> don't care if I'm two minutes slower than my alternate-universe self who 
>> rides a carbon bike. I still feel fast on it, and I'm not racing anybody 
>> anyway, even myself. My bike priorities are safety, comfort, 
>> reliability, 
>> and the ability to stretch the bike beyond it's stated purpose. Most of 
>> you 
>> aren't able to come test ride one before you buy, but those that do 
>> invariably say something like, "it's faster than I thought it would 
>> be!". 
>> It's always been more about the rider than the frame, but I know what 
>> they 
>> mean."
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 9:14:40 PM UTC-4 brenton...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have really fallen for these luscious new Roadini builds I've seen 
>>> at Riv and Blue Lug.
>>>
>>> I have a Sam Hillborne and love it. It's been through several 
>>> iterations of cockpit/racks/bags/brakes/wheels/tires and all have been 
>>> really fun. Right now it has flat bars with sweep, chunky 47mm tires, 
>>> and 
>>> is an excellent all around adventure/trail/camping ride. It's currently 
>>> my 
>>> only bike!
>>>
>>> Before the Sam, I rode 90s road bikes exclusively for 20 years, and 
>>> those worked great for city/commuting/neighborhood/pub rides. I've 
>>> heard 
>>> that the Roadini does NOT offer that kind of 
>>> ride/speed/feel/handling/gusto/whatever, from several folks in this 
>>> group.
>>>
>>> So am I fooling myself into thinking another $2500 Riv build is 
>>> going to scratch the itch? Or should I buy a <$500 Japanese Road Bike 
>>> that 
>>> can hold 33s and actually feel some performance?
>

[RBW] FS 53 Susie Longbolts

2023-07-22 Thread Andrew Huston

Really a wonderful bike but I continually find I need to explore new bikes. 
Its my hobby, what can I say?
Beautiful gold Susie with a nice build is on the block. 
Velocity Cliffhanger rims laced to Deore hubs, Terravail Ehline 2.5 tan wall
Deore 11 speed RD, shifter, and cassette
Middleburn crank 36T ring
Kalloy post
Velo Orange Siene bars with a Jim stem 80mm
Also have a set of Rambler bars 

Looking for $2700 plus packing and shipping cost. Located in Michigan. 



I will add photos when I get to my personal computer otherwise shoot me an 
email or text and I can get those to you. 

Andrew
810-841-4396



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[RBW] Modifying my Hillborne

2023-06-28 Thread Andrew Wright

Good morning folks!

I’ve recently been inspired by Eric Marth’s build videos on YouTube and 
want to change my Sam up a bit, mainly moving from road bars/bar end 
shifters to something like a Bosco or albatross with thumbies.  Problem is 
I’m not very familiar with changing parts out like brake levers, shifters 
etc.  Can anyone recommend some good resources to better understand this 
work, these parts and what’s compatible with what?  YouTube, books, 
whatever ya got. Truly appreciate any help y’all can give me.

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Re: [RBW] Plush old 531 steel frames (was being precious)

2023-06-28 Thread Andrew Scherer

I hear variants of "plush" used when folks discuss steel and particularly 
531 but I'm not sure what to make of it. I have 6 bikes with 531 frames and 
I ride them all: 1970 Raleigh Pro Mk I, a Falcon San Remo of undetermined 
age but likely 1969-1971, a 1971 Raleigh International, a 1972 PX-10, a 
1972 Paramount, and a 1987 531c Mercian Professional. Sizes are 62-63cm for 
reference, and most of them run Compass or similar Panaracer tires. Each 
has different characteristics related to how the bike responds to steering 
effort delivered at the front end or through shifting weight/center of 
gravity, and a general sense of what I'll call rigidity. Perhaps it's 
because they're all the same base material, but I wonder if geometry, 
wheelbase, and tires makes more of a difference than materials. They all 
feel "comfortable" but the range is significant. The PX10 and the Falcon 
have a strong self-centering steering feel and the PX10 requires more 
effort to change direction. I'd say "steady and predictable". At the other 
end of the spectrum the Mercian has criterium geometry and feels very 
light, the steering is super responsive and at the same time the whole bike 
feels more solid/rigid than the others. I didn't like riding it on 
rough/urban roads until I changed the tires from 23c Michelin Pros to 28c 
(that barely fit) Soma Supple VItesse. The Raleigh Pro and International 
fall somewhere towards the PX10 to different degrees, and the Paramount 
seems to be smack in the middle. FWIW I've had the Mercian since it was new 
and if I could only keep one, that would be it. 

Anecdotally, the International was the first of the above I added to the 
fleet some 7 years ago after a friend convinced me to buy the frame. I 
built it to more or less the catalog spec and took a first ride with him. 
As we came up to a small pothole on a descent I used my Mercian reflexes to 
shift the bike around it and ended up sailing right through it...not enough 
"oomph" for that setup!

Andy
On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 8:08:22 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> How about a plush NEW 531 frame - my Pashley Guv'nor 3 speed (shifter 
> mounted on seatpost). I need to measure the frame angles on this. I have 
> switched to a Sturmey Archer Dyno-Hub w/90mm drum brake from the standard 
> front 70mm drum brake since this picture was taken.
>
> [image: IMG_1535s.jpg]
>
> Laing
>
> On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 7:27:38 AM UTC-4 wboe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> This thread makes me appreciate my vintage 531 bike all the more.  It's a 
>> Raleigh Lenton Gran Prix from the 60s.  Shod with Barlow Pass, it truly 
>> floats over everything.  Set up as a simple 3-speed path racer, it reduces 
>> the riding experience to simple moving along.  I've been thinking about 
>> having a low-rider single-sided rack made to fit the lamp bracket and 
>> fender boss but have not gotten around to it.
>>
>> [image: 20230131_155539 (1).jpg]
>>
>> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 7:39:33 PM UTC-4 mr.wa...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick was correct on the bracket on the fork of the Jack Taylor. That 
>>> was the bracket for the headlamp. The fitting on the top of the stem is an 
>>> integral center-pull brake cable hanger and adjuster. I had it set up with 
>>> some long reach Mafac brakes and it worked beautifully. Here's a close-up. 
>>> The rear brake hanger was nicely done as well.
>>>
>>> [image: DSCF9308.jpeg][image: DSCF9310.jpeg]
>>> [image: DSCF9311.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 3:57:49 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>>>
 [image: P1011691.JPG]

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[RBW] ISO 54 Roadini

2023-06-28 Thread Andrew Huston

I know there is a new batch on the way but thought I’d see if there is 
anything on the market now. Would consider frame or complete. I also have a 
neat black sheep klunker I would use as a barter if interested. Located in 
Michigan. 

That new green does look pretty amazing tho…

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