Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride in Asheville NC?

[Carl]

Gary, did you say there's an extra 55cm Cheviot lying around here in 
Asheville? I could maybe help with that . . . 

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 9:19:20 AM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> Leah,
>
> What a great offer - it would be an honor to have a video made by you! 
>  But better yet, why don’t you come join us? I know of an extra 55cm 
> Cheviot lying around here in Asheville :)
>
> Gary
>
> On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 2:32:25 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Dick, sorry you won't be able to make it that weekend. 
>>
>> "40 mm Little Big Ben's...Could I do those Bent Creek area forest roads 
>> on that bike?" 
>>
>> Absolutely!!!Come on up from Brevard and give it a go!
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 1:03 PM Dick Pahle  wrote:
>>
>>> I've been following this for a while hoping I could commit to joining 
>>> in. Knew that week in July was problematic and now know for sure I can't 
>>> make it. Ratz!!
>>>
>>> I'm in Brevard and ride a Homer with 40 mm Little Big Ben's. 90 % on 
>>> roads and paved trails. Could I do those Bent Creek area forest roads on 
>>> that bike? If so, I may try and join those of you who ride there on a 
>>> regular basis some other time, if ok to join ya.
>>>
>>> Sorry I'll miss meeting/riding with all of you and sorry to miss Pam,  a 
>>> good friend and my Cycling Savvy instructor from Charlotte. 
>>>
>>> Dick
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:58:12 AM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>>
 Hi,
 There was some talk about a Riv ride in Asheville this spring but a May 
 date won't work for lots of people. If there's still any interest in a 
 meetup, how would a July or mid-Sept weekend work for folks?  If there's 
 enough people interested I would be happy to try to nail down a date for 
 whatever month seems to work for most everyone.
 Gary

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride in Asheville NC?

[Carl]

Hi,
Thank you Gary for the update on the July 7-9 meet-up in Asheville! 

As Gary said, we're planning a swap meet. We'll choose the location for 
that based on how many want to participate and how much stuff you want to 
bring. Could you let me know if you plan to do the swap meet and a ballpark 
idea of how much stuff you might bring?

Thanks and looking forward to seeing everyone in July, -- Carl
On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 11:54:39 AM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> Hi from Asheville!
>
> I just wanted to send a quick update about our Riv gathering July 7-9. 
>  You can see our planned activities below.
>
> Right now we’ve got 20 folks that have indicated that they are planning to 
> attend, and 6 that are maybe’s. Here’s the “yes” list I’ve got:
>
> *Yes (traveling to Asheville):*
>
> Brian plus 2 - Lexington, KY
> Jason - Indiana
> Laing - FL
> Pam - Charlotte, NC
> Frank - Richmond, VA
> Ken - VA
> Drew plus 1 - Atlanta, GA
> Eric - Indianapolis, IN
>
>
> *From Asheville:*
>
> Joel and Heather
> Theresa and Gary
> Ellen
> Carl
> Nic
> Steve
> Robert
>
> Please let me know if I’ve missed anyone - and also let me know if you’d 
> like to attend but haven’t yet responded.
>
> Some folks have arranged campground reservations (right at Bent Creek 
> where our Saturday morning ride will be) here:  
> https://adventurepisgah.com/lake-powhatan.  There are also tons of hotel 
> and VRBO options in Asheville but the summer gets very busy so book early.
>
> And a big thanks to the “Planning Committee” members - Carl, Nic, Joel, 
> Robert, Steve, and Ellen!  They are working on route details (map and GPS), 
> food and drink venues, a pavilion for the swap meet, and possibly (fingers 
> crossed) some ride swag (hat and/or a bandana).
>
> It should be a really fun weekend and we are looking forward to meeting 
> everyone, riding, and geeking out on all things Riv!
>
> Gary
>
> *Schedule for July 7-9:*
>
> *July 7* - Afternoon ride on Greenway (mostly paved with maybe a short 
> gravel section - very easy) followed by dinner/beer at one of the local 
> places (All Souls, New Belgium, White Duck Taco, Smokey Park, etc) all near 
> the Greenway with outdoor seating. 
>
> *July 8* - Morning ride at Bent Creek Forest near the NC Arboretum with 
> two options (all nontechnical gravel fire roads - an easier, shorter one 
> and a longer one that ideally could be done in a figure 8 so everyone stays 
> together for the first, easier part. Parking either at the Arboretum or by 
> the river (for those that don’t want to pay for Arboretum parking)
>
>Afternoon short ride in conjunction with a swap meet, possibly 
> at Carrier Park near the Greenway (paved) under one of their pavilions (or 
> another similar location near the greenway). Other ideas are welcomed!
>
>
>Dinner somewhere local (same possible options as for Friday)
>
> *July 9* - Morning ride near downtown (all paved very quiet neighborhood 
> roads) around Montford, Sunset, etc. with optional lunch afterwards
>
> *Please let me know *if you’d like to continue to get info about this, 
> and if you’re planning to attend. That will help us with planning and food 
> options...
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 4:29:47 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Brokebike - You done good - it's a beautiful campground. My wife and I 
>> have been saying for years that if we didn't live only 10 miles from 
>> Powhatan it would be our favorite camping destination.
>>
>> On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 8:18:02 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I got a campsite reserved at Lake Powhatan for the Ky contingent. Looks 
>>> like a sweet spot! Thanks for all the information and organization! Looking 
>>> forward to this!
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2023, at 6:10 PM, 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Laing,
>>>
>>> Bent Creek fire roads are gravel, but not too rough. Greenway is almost 
>>> all paved except for a short gravel portion that we may or may not do. 
>>> Neighborhood ride is all paved. Your custom with 650b x 48 would be perfect 
>>> (and I'd like to see it!).
>>> gary
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 5:55:58 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hostel booked. Need to decide on which Riv (or Rivs). Is it all paved 
>>>> and/or gravel? If so, I am thinking the Riv Custom with 650Bx48 Switchback 
>>>> Hills would be the choice, so I need to quit dithering on the 90 vs. 100 
>>>> stem and finally tape the handlebars.
>>>>
>>

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[Carl]

Thanks Gary, I can participate at least part of that weekend.

On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 11:01:46 AM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> We've had five folks fill out the doodle scheduling poll (thanks Steve, 
> Jason, Ky, and Chasen) to try to find a late spring date for a potential 
> Asheville gathering and the May 12, 13, 14 weekend is best for those who 
> responded. Does that date work with others who didn't respond? Or should I 
> throw out some summer and/or early fall dates? 
> Gary
>
> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:45:38 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>
>> Yes, Steve - all the options I selected were the weekends of May and the 
>> first weekend of June.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:09:19 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Gary for setting this up!Are you thinking weekends, or...?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:59:12 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>>
 Hi Everyone, at the risk of being presumptuous I went ahead and created 
 this Doodle scheduling poll to see what (if any) weekend dates in May/June 
 would work best for a Riv group meetup in Asheville.  Just click on the 
 link and it will guide you to a calendar that will allow you to select the 
 dates you are (and are not) available for a weekend meetup. After about a 
 week, I can post the results and we can either take the planning further 
 from there or else pick different dates and try again.  Here is the link 
 to 
 the poll:  https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eXQgKnka

 Gary

 On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 11:00:51 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Gary, I second your suggestion.   I lived in North Asheville on 
> Melrose St for a number of years - I'm currently on the south side. Those 
> roads above the Grove Park Inn and on to Town Mountain and then the BRPW 
> were my go to routes (that was back when Michael Davis owned ProBikes). I 
> haven't ridden up that way for over a decade. Good to hear it's still 
> decent riding. 
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:23 PM 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Steve - Yes, Bent Creek and the River Arts sounds good. We could also 
>> add another ride the following day on quiet roads (they do exist!) just 
>> north of downtown, up Sunset to Town Mt, around Montford, etc. that 
>> could 
>> follow the Asheville bike routes.
>>
>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 4:47:59 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gary, May would be a good choice. September is  generally a bit 
>>> quieter as well. I'm guessing most would prefer a weekend???   
>>>
>>> I'm thinking a 3-4 hour ride at Bent Creek early in the day and then 
>>> possibly an afternoon to early evening ride on the River Arts District 
>>> greenway concluding with a stop for food & beverage. 
>>>
>>> Anyone want to weigh in?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 12:28:31 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>>
 Steve, I agree that July 4 wknd would not be the best time for a 
 gathering as Asheville gets mobbed then. But if we can find a suitable 
 date 
 I’d be happy to help with some organizing of the gathering. Seems like 
 the 
 biggest hurdle is getting a date nailed down. Any summer date would 
 probably work for me, but I’d suggest late May/early June if we wanted 
 to 
 avoid July 4. Not quite as many tourists here then.

 On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:38:05 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Giving this thread a bump -  Hate to see it get lost.  Trigger 
> Warning: Long Post.
>
> I've been living and riding in Asheville for 30 some years now, 
> and would be happy to offer some route ideas - but first a caveat. 
> The 
> Asheville metro area has seen phenomenal growth over the past decade 
> (from 
> 282,000 to 371,000 residents). We're also seeing about 11 million 
> annual 
> visitors. 
>
> The result of the rapid growth  transpo infrastructure has been 
> overwhelmed. Paved routes around town and the surrounding county that 
> were 
> old favorites have mostly become Thunderdome rides. --   
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JKZKjFjHDM ---   
>
> If you're still reading this - in addition to the decline in road 
> riding pleasantness,  the best close to town off pavement riding 
> (Bent 
> Creek) has become a "regional destination". Trailhead parking can 
> be a challenge, especially on weekends. Having said that, BC and the 
> Pisgah 
> National Forest are still great riding. If you want you can climb up 
> to 
> Bent Tree Gap  and descend on the BRPW through two 

[RBW] Re: FS: Riv Sackville Small Trunk Sack - Tan color

[Carl G]

Updating to mark as *Sold*. Thanks.


On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 12:25:58 PM UTC-8 Carl G wrote:

> Still available, so price dropped to *$85 shipped to US address.*
>
> Please contact me directly if interested.
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 2:28:51 PM UTC-8 Carl G wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> FS: Riv Sackville Small Trunk Sack - Tan color
>>
>> I decided to go another route with this so no longer have a need for this 
>> bag. Used once or twice, basically new condition.
>>
>> $95 shipped in the continental US. 
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> [image: sackville-trunk-small.jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv Sackville Small Trunk Sack - Tan color

[Carl G]

Still available, so price dropped to *$85 shipped to US address.*

Please contact me directly if interested.

Thanks,

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 2:28:51 PM UTC-8 Carl G wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> FS: Riv Sackville Small Trunk Sack - Tan color
>
> I decided to go another route with this so no longer have a need for this 
> bag. Used once or twice, basically new condition.
>
> $95 shipped in the continental US. 
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> [image: sackville-trunk-small.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Boscomoose (bosco-bullmoose?) handlebars.

[Carl G]

I think I've received enough PMs to mark these practically sold. Thanks all!

On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 7:00:47 PM UTC-7 Carl G wrote:

> I responded directly,
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 6:49:52 PM UTC-7 James wrote:
>
>> I sent you a PM
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 8:34:21 PM UTC-4 Carl G wrote:
>>
>>> I bought these from Bluelug a couple of years ago (2019?) but never 
>>> really used them much. I really like the integrated stem style bars but 
>>> prefer the adjustability of the albatross on my Atlantis, so these need a 
>>> new home.
>>>
>>> 58cm. Bars are in good shape. There is some small scratch marks where 
>>> the stem get inserted into the headtube (see photo attached), and some 
>>> leftover Newbaums glue. The tape in the photo has since been removed but 
>>> some residual glue remains, if you're not going to tape them I'm sure 
>>> they'll clean up nicely with a little effort.
>>>
>>> Hoping to get $165 shipped (contiguous U.S. only). I know bluelug lists 
>>> these for under $100, but when you include shipping costs I think $165 is a 
>>> pretty good deal.
>>>
>>> Let me know if there's any important details I left out.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> [image: boscomoose1.jpg]
>>> [image: boscomoose2.jpg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Boscomoose (bosco-bullmoose?) handlebars.

[Carl G]

I responded directly,

Thanks.

On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 6:49:52 PM UTC-7 James wrote:

> I sent you a PM
>
> On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 8:34:21 PM UTC-4 Carl G wrote:
>
>> I bought these from Bluelug a couple of years ago (2019?) but never 
>> really used them much. I really like the integrated stem style bars but 
>> prefer the adjustability of the albatross on my Atlantis, so these need a 
>> new home.
>>
>> 58cm. Bars are in good shape. There is some small scratch marks where the 
>> stem get inserted into the headtube (see photo attached), and some leftover 
>> Newbaums glue. The tape in the photo has since been removed but some 
>> residual glue remains, if you're not going to tape them I'm sure they'll 
>> clean up nicely with a little effort.
>>
>> Hoping to get $165 shipped (contiguous U.S. only). I know bluelug lists 
>> these for under $100, but when you include shipping costs I think $165 is a 
>> pretty good deal.
>>
>> Let me know if there's any important details I left out.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> [image: boscomoose1.jpg]
>> [image: boscomoose2.jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: choco-moose bar.

[Carl G]

Sold pending payment. 

Thanks all.

On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 7:51:36 PM UTC-7 Carl G wrote:

> Hi all, 
>
> Doing some new-project fund-raising so I'll be selling some stuff I've 
> been sitting on for a bit.
>
> I bought these bars from blue-lug a couple of years ago but used them only 
> briefly on my Atlantis. These had once been wrapped with Newbaums, so they 
> might have a bit of tape glue, but they've always been stored indoors and 
> overall in very good shape.
>
> Due to the size of the box I expect shipping only is going to be $50+, so 
> I'd like to get $150 shipped to continental US address, which should be a 
> pretty decent discount from new. Prefer payment via Paypal.
>
>  Let me know if any additional info is needed
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- 
> Carl
>
> [image: IMG_0579.jpg][image: IMG_0581.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: FS - Choco handlebar

[Carl]

The handlebar has been sold.

On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 9:28:42 AM UTC-4 Carl wrote:

> Installed but not ridden. Bosco works better for me. Couple of blemishes 
> shown in the photos, but otherwise like new. $70 shipped to conus. Carl, 
> Eight too 8 seven one 3 Oh one 6 three  Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: A Pumpkin Platypus, Perchance?

[Carl]

Thanks Laura. Hope you're able to get a Riv sometime soon. Whichever model 
and color you end up with, they bring a lot of joy!

On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 3:36:10 PM UTC-5 me2g...@gmail.com wrote:

> Carl, that is a beautiful Clem. Funny how different bikes look with the 
> same colors. In my minds eye, a Susie is orange. I am not sure what color a 
> Platypus is, but I definitely favor the grey and dark gold Clem’s.
>
> On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 3:23:37 PM UTC-5 Carl wrote:
>
>> Hi Heather and everyone, I'm Platy-less, but am one of your Asheville 
>> neighbors and have a Clem L! Congrats on your new bike. It's beautiful! 
>> Happy trails, -- Carl
>>
>> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 8:39:23 PM UTC-5 Heather Hayes wrote:
>>
>>> Happy New Year to my fellow Platy people! I know I’m late to the Platy 
>>> party, but I just wanted to introduce myself and my Pumpkin Platypus. We’re 
>>> so honored to be here among the esteemed RBW Owners Bunch! I’ve been a 
>>> lurking wallflower on the forum for a while, and have so enjoyed watching 
>>> the reveals of all your lovely builds!
>>>
>>>
>>> Though I initially had my heart set on a mermaid Platypus when they 
>>> first went live back in April, the online order form had other ideas. I 
>>> cracked my knuckles, hovered over the purchase button, then clicked BUY NOW 
>>> with the authority of a seasoned judge pounding a gavel… but my mermaid 
>>> selection auto-changed to limeolive, dashing my aqua-colored dreams. There 
>>> was nary a 50cm mermaid to be found anywhere. No offense to the lovely 
>>> limeolive, but as a graphic designer, having a color I personally LOVED was 
>>> very important to me! Reframing crisis as opportunity, I decided to repaint 
>>> the frame a custom color. Pea soup to pumpkin bisque instead, please!
>>>
>>>
>>> After many, many, MANY nail-biting months of waiting, the newly painted 
>>> frame finally arrived. I carefully unwrapped my brand new Pumpkin Platy 
>>> with the same awe and enthusiasm of the father in A Christmas Story 
>>> unpacking his beloved leg lamp. (Though thankfully Rivendells are MUCH 
>>> sturdier!) ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> My Platy mainly enjoys conquering steeper terrain here in the beautiful 
>>> Blue Ridge Mountains of Asheville, NC, but still loves adventuring near 
>>> aquatic habitats as well. Here on the forum, the swoopy elegance of this 
>>> frame has aptly been likened by Leah to that of a prom dress. Set up as a 
>>> gravel grinder, I wanted this badass bike to sport combat boots underneath 
>>> the sparkly orange gown. (She’s a gorgeous prom queen, but you're also kind 
>>> of afraid she'll kick you in the shins!) 
>>>
>>>
>>> My sweet RBW blue Cheviot townie now has a fierce and fiery friend by 
>>> her side, and I love having not one but two Rivendells to *JUST RIDE!* 
>>>
>>> [image: Platy1.jpg][image: Platy2.jpg][image: Platy3.jpg]
>>>
>>

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Re: UPDATE! Re: [RBW] Re: Stolen Homer?

[Carl Anderson]

Last seen October 18 along Embarcadero.  Please contact with any info, 
reward still available.
Thanks to all helping!
Carl

On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 5:17:23 PM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:

> I spoke to the owner of the stolen Homer.  He is offering a reward for any 
> help leading to the recovery of the bike.  His name is Carl -(415) 
> eightOsix-O5two5
>
> so again:
> 61.5cm Blue/White Homer
> Rival Cranks
> White Industries to Mavic wheels
> Blue Tape on Drop bars
>
> Last seen at Union Square and on Jessie St at 4th
>
> Thanks!
> Brendan in SF
>
>
> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 3:58:57 PM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:
>
>> So the bike is a 61.5 cm homer in blue and white with blue bar tape on 
>> drop bars and Phil Woods hubs laced to Mavic rims.  Keep an eye out!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Brendan Willard
>> Owner/Winemaker
>> Phantômé Cellars
>>
>> phantomecellars.com 
>>
>> Speaking in Thumbs 
>>
>> On Aug 9, 2021, at 3:04 PM, 'JRStern11' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Hope there is a happy ending.  Good for you.  
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:13 PM, Brendan Willard in SF  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I found the owner!  He confirmed build details.  We will now try to track 
>> down the bike again.
>>
>> On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 12:38:43 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>> I believed you before, not a bike he acquired at a bike shop.  
>>>
>>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 2:35 PM, Brendan Willard  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This guy looked to be about 5’9” and the frame must’ve been a 65 cm.  He 
>>> rode it with 1 foot on the pedal and the other dragging on the ground to 
>>> slow him down. There was a can of Coca-Cola rattling around in an expensive 
>>> titanium water bottle cage. bars were adjusted in a way that could not have 
>>> been comfortable for anyone.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Brendan Willard
>>>
>>>
>>> Speaking in Thumbs 
>>>
>>> On Aug 8, 2021, at 10:08 AM, 'Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not the kind of bike you just buy without knowing about it.  As far as 
>>> fit, Grant always used to say ride the biggest frame you can ;) 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 5:47:54 PM UTC-4 Brendan Willard in SF 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> First off... sorry to assume anything, but my spidey sense went off 
>>>> seeing this.
>>>>
>>>> I met a man riding a BIG Homer today.  He couldn't straddle the bike 
>>>> and didn't know anything about Rivendell or the fancy wheelset on the 
>>>> bike.  He didn't mind my asking about the bike so my guess is it was 
>>>> stolen 
>>>> and changed hands a bit before he wound up with it.
>>>>
>>>> I checked bike index and there is one blue Homer that is listed stolen 
>>>> in SF.  I reached out through BI, but haven't heard back.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone missing a big HH??
>>>>
>>>> Brendan in SF
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Carl]

Hi Leah, I still have that C Itoh. It’s gone a ways since ‘74, mostly in 
its first 20 years. I’ll post a current photo of it tomorrow. It was my 
Dad’s, but I nagged him until he gave it to me and got himself a new 
Bridgestone Super Speed, which I also still have. 

On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 4:36:22 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Speaking of fixies for toddlers, I recall learning to ride 2 wheels circa 
> age 4, which would have been 1959, on a tiny red bicycle with solid, black 
> rubber tires and a fixed wheel; I have no recollection where it came from, 
> because it certainly wasn't mine. Funny how strong such early memories are. 
> Doubtless it was this early experience that soured me on freewheels later 
> in life.
>
> The older blonde girls from next door -- I think they may have been 8 or 9 
> -- made me their afternoon project, and they set me on the saddle and 
> pushed me down the slope of our short driveway (right into the street). But 
> I survived and learned.
>
> Speaking of the old-fashioned children's tricycles: those were horribly 
> unstable. I recall how 5 years later, my brother, then age 4, would tear 
> down the concrete driveway on his, with 16" wheel trike, rather tall for a 
> tricycle and, attempting to do a time trial turn at the end, would 
> inevitably fall over at speed and hit his head on the concrete; he was 
> tall, skinny, with a very big head, and I recall thinking, even at age 9, 
> that his large head was a liability here, and that "this can't be healthy." 
> Though, a couple of year later at another house with a driveway that dove 
> steeply down to a basement-level garage, I'd coax him into the driver's 
> seat and stand on the back and accelerate us rapidly down the very steep 
> slope, pedals whirling, his legs in the air, our aim being to safely make 
> the 90* right hand turn into a small corridor between back wall of house 
> and back wall of property; since I grasped the bar in the center, it was 
> his left hand that always got scraped.
>
> Two photos I wish I still had -- my mother kept them for decades as we 
> travelled between continents: A bw photo of me, age 7 or 8, with my new 
> 24"-wheel JC Higgins, and best friend Ricky Heinbuck, a year younger but an 
> inch taller, with an ancient, 28"- wheel woman's bike that his father had 
> resurrected from some dump or another. Another bw of me, sophomore 
> yearbook, age 15 or just turned 16, early 1971, with my first self-build: 
> Indian roadster frame, 700C flip flop rear wheel, 24" front wheel, drop 
> bar, rat trap pedals with no cages or straps, and no brakes because (to my 
> surprise) nothing would fit. 50 t cottered crank, 15 t fw, IIRC, 90" gear. 
> I rode it on murderous narrow, hilly, winding roads with no shoulders, with 
> the faster cars getting up to 80 (rode in one) and "country" buses racing 
> side by side around blind corners, and in downtown traffic, with no brake. 
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 9:03 AM Ray  wrote:
>
>> I wonder if Riv would consider a 3-wheeler for the aging boomer market. 
>> Here I am cruising one-handed on my first fixie in about 1953, trying to 
>> keep my shoes clean in rough garden terrain down by the tracks in northern 
>> Ontario. Leah, there is room on the back for you to stand on those axle 
>> platforms if you want me to stop by your place in Dakota.
>>
>> [image: trike.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 6:42:54 AM UTC-7 Mark Roland wrote:
>>
>>> I was wondering when we would hear the bringgg bringgg of 
>>> Bicyclebelldingding, it's been a bit stuffy around here.
>>>
>>> My first bike memory is of an old white girls bike that my grandfather 
>>> and I rescued from the local dump. He fixed it up and that's how I learned 
>>> to ride. I think.
>>>
>>> There is a  polariod somewhere of me in my pajamas on Christmas morning, 
>>> kneeling next to a sea-foam green Rollfast with a white banana seat, 
>>> chopper bars, and a big red bow. My first new bike. Eerily similar to 
>>> Carl's photo.
>>>
>>> Like Matthew, I also had a C.Itoh in a beautiful pale yellow, my first 
>>> ten-speed. Which, it should be noted here, was made by the Bridgestone 
>>> company. Although I now understand the paint job was the best thing about 
>>> the bike, I wanted to make it sparkle green like Janice M.'s Schwinn 
>>> Continental down the block. I took it apart, then used toxic stripper and 
>>> razor blades to take it down to bare metal. This was probably 1972, I was 
>>> 11 or 12. My workshop was the basement floor in front of the boiler. I 
>>> think I may not have used primer, and it may not have ridden quite the 
>>> same, but it was a fairly decent green, and there were only a few leftover 
>>> parts.
>>>
>>> The Platypus will be awesome, as will the Charlie Gallop. If they ever 
>>> do make a dedicated kids bike, it will need to be called a Puggle. I am 
>>> currently waiting on my large Susie. And building up an HHH tandem. And 
>>> tootling around town on 

[RBW] Re: Just Pics from Your Good Ride Thread

[Carl]

John, it's gratifying to see photos of your bicycle out in such diverse and 
beautiful locations around our planet!

On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 9:54:09 PM UTC-4, John Rinker wrote:
>
> A few snaps from my bugs-in-teeth ride to the confluence of the Slocan and 
> Little Slocan Rivers. #gottalovebc
>
>
> [image: IMG_5646.jpg][image: IMG_5644.jpg]
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 8:08:07 AM UTC-7, Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>
>> Why do many of us feel compelled to share pics from our rides?
>>
>> From my perspective a good bike ride is just so enjoyable on a variety of 
>> levels I just want to share it. 
>>
>> Some things that come to mind are that a good ride can be:
>> therapeutic, de-stressing, 
>> good exercise, renewing,
>> peaceful, recharging of the batteries,
>> inspiring, and restorative. 
>> (Ok, some of these mean the same thing.)
>>
>> I'm sure many of you are of a similar mind and have insights and pics to 
>> share of what a good ride does for you and you don't want to keep it to 
>> yourself but share it.
>>
>> It's not like we haven't already been doing this over the years already 
>> but I didn't have a specific thread to go to on the Riv list so I just 
>> started this one.
>>
>> I built this bike frame up for a friend the last few days and decided to 
>> go on a 10 mile shake down ride to check it over.
>>
>> Please share your pics and perspectives.
>>
>> Paul in Dallas 
>>
>> [image: Image]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Swapping derailer cable on a Deore XT SL M-8000

[Carl G]

Here's a direct link to the "dealer manual", does this help (page 14)?

https://si.shimano.com/pdfs/dm/DM-SL0005-04-ENG.pdf

On Wednesday, July 24, 2019 at 9:13:42 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I searched the interwebs and can't find a diagram or how-to. Shimano's 
> unhelpful owner's manual says if we don't show it here take it to your LBS. 
> Seriously? To change a cable? I've tried unscrewing the plates, to no 
> avail. My LBS is also slammed and said he'd need it for 3 days (I'm not 
> high on his priority list as he never has what I need anyway.). 
>
> Suggestions? 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
>
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org 
> www.DeaconPatrick.org 
> www.CatholicHalos.org 
>
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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[Carl]

Isn't the Nitto riser stem in cro mo the best looking one?

On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 9:46:40 PM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote:
>
> I know fit is paramount, but let's assume fit is not an issue. 
>
> I just replaced a technomic stem with a dirt drop stem. My first reaction 
> is that the dirt drop stem is kind of gangly looking. I want to like it. 
> But the technomic is more elegant. Do others agree? (Yes I admit this is a 
> first-world problem)
>

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[RBW] Re: Rosco Bubbe v.2 geometry chart

[Carl G]

It looks like a lot of the Rosco project (including some geo) is documented 
here: 

https://roscobubbe.tumblr.com/

Pretty cool, I've seen a few of these frames but didn't know the back story.

On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 3:58:42 PM UTC-7, Jim S. wrote:
>
> Hi, I was looking around for the geometry chart for this bike, and I can't 
> seem to find it. 
>
> This is sage green one, size 55.5
>
> Does anyone happen to have a link or a copy of the chart? 
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

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[RBW] Pretend New Bike Day: The Stolen Clem

[Carl]

That blue is so pretty. Glad it will be loved as it deserves. 

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[RBW] Re: SE Rivendell 25th Anniversary Celebration May 3/4/5 Greenville SC

[Carl]

I am so looking forward to this! Not sure yet which days, but would like to 
be there for as much of it as possible.

>
>

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[RBW] Afternoon ride from home into the mountains and back on my Sam

[Carl]

I recognize that bike. It cleaned up pretty good. 

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[RBW] Quickbeam inquiry

[Carl]

There appears to be a 51 cm for sale on SF Bay Craigslist. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB - 51 Appaloosa or 51 Hillborne - or possibly 55 Cheviot

[Carl]

Hi Gary, Did you already see this 
one: 
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/d/rivendell-joe-appaloosa-51/6734232347.html

Carl (in western NC)

On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 4:59:10 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've got a friend that is looking to get her first Riv and I'm trying to 
> give her a hand. Anyone have a 51 Appaloosa or 51 Hillborne that's looking 
> for a good home? A frame/fork/headset, partial, or full builds could all 
> work. Another option would be a 55 Cheviot but that would be a little lower 
> on her list.  A 56 Atlantis (old version) would also work but that is 
> probably wishful thinking 
>
> Thanks!
> Gary in western NC
>

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[RBW] Re: Seat post slippage

[Carl]

 Thanks everyone who responded with advice. I did find a low ridge inside 
the lug, which extends about 1/3 of the way around the inside of the lug. 
It looks like where the seat tube ends. Now I have to figure out how to 
file that smooth without scraping the paint at the top of the lug.

On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 10:45:59 AM UTC-4, Carl wrote:
>
> Hello Forum-ites, Any advice on how to stop the seat post on my 2017 Clem 
> H from slipping to one side? I removed it, wiped all the grease off, put it 
> back together, and tightened the bolt very tight. It maintains the height 
> without getting pushed down into the seat tube, but still slips a little to 
> one side or the other every time I ride. My ride includes going up some 
> steep hills, which seems to be when it happens most. I think the threads 
> may be about to strip on the bolt, so I plan to replace that and take 
> whatever other steps are needed. Thanks for any and all suggestions.
>
>
> - Carl in western NC
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: (still) 46cm Joe Appaloosa Butternut

[Carl]

It looks like this bike found a very good home, judging from recent photos 
over on the Riv FB group.

On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 4:53:51 PM UTC-4, Christopher Wiggins wrote:
>
> Still trying to get this bike to a good home.  Just knocked another 100 
> bucks off the price.  Thanks for the interest.
>
> Chris
> A1 Cyclery
> Indianapolis IN
>
> https://a1cyclery.com/product/rivendell-joe-appaloosa-46cm/
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[RBW] June Flowers

[Carl]

Thanks Patrick. Those lovely photos made me feel like I was there with you 
enjoying all that beauty. — Carl

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[RBW] PSA Rambouillet - Savannah GA

[Carl]

Just saw this on Craigslist.
https://asheville.craigslist.org/bik/d/rivendell-rambouillet-60cm/6604705165.html

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[RBW] Re: Generations of Clems

[Carl]

The 2015 had Sunrace thumb shifters and the current model has Microshift. The 
Sunrace shifters have some quirks that have been discussed previously on the 
forum. I’m still enjoying using mine. 

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Carl]

THANKS so much Jim, Reed, Shoji, Tim for sharing these, and to Grant for 
saying yes. It means a lot to have them. It's a major gift!

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 7:27:23 PM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> There was a query yonder on the FB about specific editions of the 
> Rivendell Readers. (They were requesting RR#10, RR#41 and RR#42).  
>
> Turns out that the latter two had been uploaded to a Cyclofiend.com 
> archive folder.  Toward the end of the Reader run, they would make a PDF 
> version of the readers available in addition to the print version. And I 
> stashed these two here - 
>
> RR#42 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR42_web.pdf
>
> RR#41 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR41_web.pdf
>
> As i was searching to see if there were more of these around, I came 
> across the references and a thread to the sethdot.org project to set up a 
> Reader archive. I have to say that saddened me a bit, as I realized how 
> long it had been since Seth Vidal left us way too soon. Sigh. He was 
> quality guy who I am sad to say I never got to meet in person. 
>
> Since my own collection of early Readers had been a bit sporadic (I had 
> enjoyed the first ones via copies borrowed from someone else, since 
> returned), I had bought the first CD of Readers way back when.  This 
> included RR#'s 1 through 11.  (Yes, it went up to 11...) Since surprisingly 
> fewer computers these days even can swallow CD's, I thought it prudent to 
> copy these to a dropbox folder, which should be accessible via this link 
> for now - 
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5f0hbf4i5e5n2dq/II0rxQi1lpzCCiU5JbeAa?dl=0
>
> I'll add to this thread as more items are unearthed.
>
> - Jim
>
> cyclo...@gmail.com  / cyclofiend.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

[Carl]

How are the ticks in the bay area this time of year? They’re pretty bad where I 
live in the NC mountains.

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[RBW] Re: Bosco Bars

[Carl]

They're named after a chocolate syrup product. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosco_Chocolate_Syrup

On Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 10:08:36 AM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote:
>
> I wonder why they call them Bosco bars? Who or what is a "Bosco"?
>

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Re: [RBW] Interesting Flikr person with interesting functional Rivbike pics.

[Carl]

I'll drop her a line and let her know folks are curious.

On Saturday, March 10, 2018 at 9:21:27 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Nice photos (these and those in the following mss). The blossoms make me 
> nostalgic for the cherry blossoms that would be appearing about now beneath 
> the Kennedy Center along the Potomac path in WDC -- the very sole thing 
> about WDC for which I wax nostalgic -- memories of bike rides along the 
> path on a rare, clear March weekend afternoon with the trees in blossom, 
> the sky brilliant blue, and the path open and inviting.
>
> Carl: whose purple bike?
>
> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Lum Gim Fong <john1...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> All weather, loaded bikes.
>> Chock full of Interesting rivbike pics. Enjoy:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/8129051@N06/
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[RBW] Re: Interesting Flikr person with interesting functional Rivbike pics.

[Carl]

No. It’s purpleriv in Seattle. 

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RE: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Sounds Good 
Are the Rat Traps available?
Thanks for the pics looks like good clearence in the rear 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwmcmillen/19620023613/in/album-72157656605491545/
Is it enough to use the Rat Traps with a pair of fenders, is it possible to fit 
a pair of 60 mm Berthoud on the NFE. 
It looks like a very nice rig to use as a commuter.
Carl W 

Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 19:21:10 -0700
From: mikeybi...@rocketmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

John, one of the guys behind the stock NFE's is running the Rat Trap pass tires 
on his NFE.  Looks like they fit just fine and are the same diameter as a 650B 
x 42 mm wheel.
~mike

On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 2:49:39 PM UTC-7, Christian wrote:Carl,
I cannot see why not. The disc brakes  would allow for 26 wheels I imagine. In 
fact, I might have read somewhere on the Internet of someone riding a prototype 
of those tires on the NFE--but it could have been the also forthcoming 650x48 
Compass tires. I'm eager to get the Rat Traps on my LHT. 
The Cowbells and Cowchippers are more similar than either are to the 
Woodchippers. 
Riv content: I bought by Cambium from Riv. 

Christian From my phone. Apologies for typos and 
brevity. 
On Aug 2, 2015, at 3:26 AM, Carl Otto Wollin carlott...@hotmail.com wrote:




Hi Christian 
Looking good. 
Is it possible to use this frame with 26 inch wheels, with the coming Rat Trap 
Pass tires https://janheine.wordpress.com/2015/04/04/the-enduro-allroad-bike/
and you have better availability of studded winter tires. 
As a commuter and a compliment to my low trail Randonneur bikes. 
Regards
Carl Otto Wollin 
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:38:47 -0700
From: christian@gmail.com
To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
CC: christian@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

Hi everyone,
Reporting back now that I have had the NFE for a week.  It's been great so far!
Thought I'd share my build and a few pics here: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwmcmillen/sets/72157656605491545
WHEELS: WTB KOM i25 rims/Compass Babyshoe Pass EL tubeless/SP dynohub/Hope Evo 
Pro 2/VO Noir 650B fenders (only front installed; got lazy)DRIVETRAIN: White 
Industries VBC crank 42x26/11-36 XT casssette/XT rd and CX 70 fdRACK etc: 
Haulin Colin for NFE/VO decaleur/Berthoud GB28. I used a Berthoud decaleur for 
5 years on my Terraferma and thought it was great. But I decided to try the 
much cheaper VO decaleur.  It's easy to set up (so is the Berthoud) and works 
well.  Eriksen Ti Sweetpost/Brooks C17 COCKPIT: started with VO rando bars I 
had around--too much reach to the breakes, for me; now 46cm Salsa Cowchippers 
on a Salsa 25 degree/8cm Guide Stem--so far awesome.
Did I miss anything? 

Best wishes,
Christian in Charlottesville 
On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 4:12:18 PM UTC-4, Christian wrote:Hi All, 
Let's see if I can link the NFE, the Jones, and Rivendell sufficiently to make 
this on topic. I sold my Hunqapillar to fund my Jones. I really liked the Hunq, 
but I love the Jones. Very different bikes so not really fair to compare, but 
for my purposes the Jones is the better option. I use it mostly for singletrack 
and have put in up to 9 hour trail rides on it. It's an exceptional bike. But 
it's not the same thing as the NFE (not that Mike was saying this explicitly) 
so I don't think I'd choose one or the other for similar purposes.   
So, I will have both. 
I really loved my Terraferma, but always felt the fit was slightly off. I'd 
become a convert to 650B, however, and so when I learned of the NFE I made 
plans to sell my Terraferma. The disc brakes were a major selling point for me. 
After getting back into mountain biking a couple of summers ago (to which I 
credit the Hunq) and trying discs I was blown away. I know there's been lots of 
discussion here about the merits of cantis but FOR ME there's no contest. BB7s 
are incredibly simple to set up and are far superior--IN MY EXPERIENCE--to the 
Paul Toring cantis I had on the Terreferma (to be honest, the 15 year old $10 
Deore V brakes on my LHT are better than the Pauls--heresy, perhaps). I know 
some will disagree and that's fine. 
I'll use the NFE (should be here in a few weeks) in the same way I used the 
Terraferma: for mixed terrain road riding as well as paved only rides. And if I 
return to randonneuring I'll use it for that too. For me, the Jones is best 
left as a mountain bike. But it for sure could be set as a capable all arounder 
with different wheels. For now it's set up as a fat front. 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwmcmillen/16710535399/in/dateposted-public/  
One thing that's neat about the Jones is that it takes a little wind out of the 
sails of those--like me, for a time--committed to thinking fit was some sort of 
magic. After all, they only come in one size! Just tweak here and there, listen 
to Jeff's advice, and you're all set. He asked me how tall I am, whether or I 
wanted to sit up

RE: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Hi Christian 
Looking good. 
Is it possible to use this frame with 26 inch wheels, with the coming Rat Trap 
Pass tires https://janheine.wordpress.com/2015/04/04/the-enduro-allroad-bike/
and you have better availability of studded winter tires. 
As a commuter and a compliment to my low trail Randonneur bikes. 
Regards
Carl Otto Wollin 
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:38:47 -0700
From: christian.w.mcmil...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
CC: christian.w.mcmil...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

Hi everyone,
Reporting back now that I have had the NFE for a week.  It's been great so far!
Thought I'd share my build and a few pics here: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwmcmillen/sets/72157656605491545
WHEELS: WTB KOM i25 rims/Compass Babyshoe Pass EL tubeless/SP dynohub/Hope Evo 
Pro 2/VO Noir 650B fenders (only front installed; got lazy)DRIVETRAIN: White 
Industries VBC crank 42x26/11-36 XT casssette/XT rd and CX 70 fdRACK etc: 
Haulin Colin for NFE/VO decaleur/Berthoud GB28. I used a Berthoud decaleur for 
5 years on my Terraferma and thought it was great. But I decided to try the 
much cheaper VO decaleur.  It's easy to set up (so is the Berthoud) and works 
well.  Eriksen Ti Sweetpost/Brooks C17 COCKPIT: started with VO rando bars I 
had around--too much reach to the breakes, for me; now 46cm Salsa Cowchippers 
on a Salsa 25 degree/8cm Guide Stem--so far awesome.
Did I miss anything? 

Best wishes,
Christian in Charlottesville 
On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 4:12:18 PM UTC-4, Christian wrote:Hi All, 
Let's see if I can link the NFE, the Jones, and Rivendell sufficiently to make 
this on topic. I sold my Hunqapillar to fund my Jones. I really liked the Hunq, 
but I love the Jones. Very different bikes so not really fair to compare, but 
for my purposes the Jones is the better option. I use it mostly for singletrack 
and have put in up to 9 hour trail rides on it. It's an exceptional bike. But 
it's not the same thing as the NFE (not that Mike was saying this explicitly) 
so I don't think I'd choose one or the other for similar purposes.   
So, I will have both. 
I really loved my Terraferma, but always felt the fit was slightly off. I'd 
become a convert to 650B, however, and so when I learned of the NFE I made 
plans to sell my Terraferma. The disc brakes were a major selling point for me. 
After getting back into mountain biking a couple of summers ago (to which I 
credit the Hunq) and trying discs I was blown away. I know there's been lots of 
discussion here about the merits of cantis but FOR ME there's no contest. BB7s 
are incredibly simple to set up and are far superior--IN MY EXPERIENCE--to the 
Paul Toring cantis I had on the Terreferma (to be honest, the 15 year old $10 
Deore V brakes on my LHT are better than the Pauls--heresy, perhaps). I know 
some will disagree and that's fine. 
I'll use the NFE (should be here in a few weeks) in the same way I used the 
Terraferma: for mixed terrain road riding as well as paved only rides. And if I 
return to randonneuring I'll use it for that too. For me, the Jones is best 
left as a mountain bike. But it for sure could be set as a capable all arounder 
with different wheels. For now it's set up as a fat front. 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwmcmillen/16710535399/in/dateposted-public/  
One thing that's neat about the Jones is that it takes a little wind out of the 
sails of those--like me, for a time--committed to thinking fit was some sort of 
magic. After all, they only come in one size! Just tweak here and there, listen 
to Jeff's advice, and you're all set. He asked me how tall I am, whether or I 
wanted to sit up a bit or be in a more agressive position. He then told me what 
stem he thought I should get. That was it. Bike fits fantastically.
Anyway, hope all the Riv folks don't mind the digression!
Christian 




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RE: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Is it possible to run the Rat Trap Pass with 26 x 2.35 with fenders?
What is the max tires with fenders to squeeze in the rear and front of the NFE. 
The NFE looks lika an interesting rig as a commuter for all round use with 
studded winter tires and fat pair of slicks. 
One rig to mention in this debate are Joshua Bryants new NFD 
http://www.cyclesjbryant.com/
http://bicycletimesmag.com/spotlight-cycles-j-bryant-nfd-bikepacking-bike/ as 
an alternative to the Jones with 650 B plus tires.


From: marknrei...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

There were a ton of the NFE on the Oregon Outback and I have to admit I was 
envious. Many were setup just like I had my Atlantis - front panniers, rando 
boxy bag, and a saddle bag. They can fit 2.35 knobbies, or 42 slicks with 
fenders. On the wet descents with the loaded bike, I definitely wanted their 
disc brakes. I have Paul touring canti's with kool stop salmon and they were 
all but useless when we got up to 70km/h with wet rims. The finish on them is 
very good, and they're very light. I'm actually planning on buying one next 
season, but keeping the Atlantis for the real heavy lifting. 

On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 7:10:55 PM UTC-5, Hudson Doerge wrote:I absolutely 
love my first batch NFE. The tubing is perfect for my weight, uses, and riding 
style. The fork is more supple than my previous rawland rsogn and my simpleone, 
but all things aren't equal so it's pretty hard to say with certainty. As I 
understand it, it's possible to make a supple disc fork, but very difficult in 
a production setting. Glen had special mounts machined locally to keep the fork 
as compliant as possible. All I really know is that the bike rides wonderfully 
and was a killer value for a domestically made frame. Highly recommend. 



Hudson in atx. 




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RE: [RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Hi Peter 
I am open to hear all views regarding this ride, I have been in Sac several 
time before so I have seen the are a few times but without a bike. I am beware 
that the temperatures in September could go up in the 80-90 s, I like to listen 
to all views regarding bike riding in San Fran/ Sac area.
Otto W

Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 13:51:50 -0700
From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco

Otto,
For what it's worth -- Sacramento itself is a worthwhile destination, but 
riding from Sac to San Francisco would not be at the top of my list if I were a 
visitor.  Sacramento is in a very flat river valley, it will be quite hot, and 
I don't consider that area particularly scenic.  
On the other hand, western Marin County and western Sonoma County hold some of 
the most beautiful riding in the US, including the last 33% of Eric's route.  
If you would like further thoughts, please let me know. 
~Peter
  





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[RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Hello RBW - list

I'm an enthusiast from Sweden who is visiting the Bay Area in September. I'm 
interested in riding from Sacramento to San Fransisco I'm interested to get 
information regarding my planned route where should I plan to ride. Is it any 
dangerous passage that I should try to avoid? Is it possible do this ride in 
one day or should I plan for layover, what do you have for recommendations?

All informations and suggestions are highly appreciated!

Regards

Carl Otto Wollin

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RE: [RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco

[Carl Otto Wollin]

That was a very good recourse for Route planning.
Time is now for planing and then I take of in September,
Thank you!
Otto W

Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 06:21:39 -0700
Subject: Re: [RBW] Planning to ride Sacramento - San Fransisco
From: addisonwilh...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

I haven't ridden that section but the Adventure Cycling Association has a route 
map that takes you from Reno, Sacramento, to SF.  You should check there 
because it may be a good option.

Regards,
Addison Wilhite, M.A. 
Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 
Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success
Educator: Professional Portfolio
Blogger: Reno Rambler 
Bicycle Advocate: Regional Transportation Commission, Bicycle Pedestrian 
Advisory Committee




On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Carl Otto Wollin carlottowol...@hotmail.com 
wrote:

Hello RBW - list



I'm an enthusiast from Sweden who is visiting the Bay Area in September. I'm 
interested in riding from Sacramento to San Fransisco I'm interested to get 
information regarding my planned route where should I plan to ride. Is it any 
dangerous passage that I should try to avoid? Is it possible do this ride in 
one day or should I plan for layover, what do you have for recommendations?




All informations and suggestions are highly appreciated!



Regards



Carl Otto Wollin



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RE: [RBW] Frame Paint question

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Agree I have had two frames painted by Naomi Litell @ Bilenky, and the result 
is relly good!
Carl W

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 18:46:40 -0500
Subject: Re: [RBW] Frame Paint question
From: zeidler.rob...@gmail.com
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Send it to Bilenky. Very good work. 

On Monday, February 25, 2013, Robert Kirkpatrick  wrote:
I'm looking at getting a frame powder coated and I want to get the orange used 
on the Quickbeam. I asked at Riv and they said they didn't have a specific code 
for the color.  So has anyone had a bicycle powder coated in that color and 
what did you specify for it? According to Cyclofiend's Touch up Paint page 
Testors Competition Orange is close so I figure I can always bring in a swatch 
of that. But if anyone has had any luck I'd appreciate the info.




thanks,

Robert



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RE: [RBW] Re: Shipping framesets coast to coast

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Hello Michael
 
Did you send your frameset to/from a USPS office in a box from your LBS?
 
Regards 
 
Carl Otto Wollin
 



Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:33:03 -0800
From: mhech...@gmail.com
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Subject: [RBW] Re: Shipping framesets coast to coast

I have two experiences with shipping framesets and both times USPS was the 
lowest cost option, about $30 Texas to VT, if memory serves me right..


Michael
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RE: [RBW] Re: Shipping framesets coast to coast BIKEFLIGHTS.COM

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Allright so I get in to the 108 - 130 inch with my measurments 54.3 X 31.5 X 
11.8 inches (total girth is around 97 inches)?
 
With up to 50 lbs it would be around 95 USD with 
http://www.bikeflights.com/bicycle_shipping.aspx
 
Are you familier with bikeflights?
 
Regards 
 
Carl Otto Wollin

 
 

 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 07:22:02 -0800
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Shipping framesets coast to coast
 From: speedyc...@comcast.net
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
 Get the boxes down to avoid the next size hit, sign up for your own
 account with FedEx and do it from there. Helps reduce the cost.
 Drop it at the FedEx terminal. 130 girth is the max.
 A package weighing less than 50 lbs. and measuring more than 108
 inches but less than 130 inches in combined length and girth will be
 classified by FedEx Ground as an Oversize 2 (OS2) package. The
 transportation charges for an Oversize 2 (OS2) package will be the
 same as a 50-lb. package being transported under the same
 circumstances. . An oversize charge of $45 per package will apply to
 any package measuring greater than 130” in length and girth.
 
 On Jan 28, 7:43 am, Carl Otto Wollin carlottowol...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
  Hello RBW
 
  What is the cheapest way to send two framesets with racks from Sacramento 
  CA to Bilenly Cycle Works in PA.
 
  The frames are going to have couplers installed.
 
  The box is 54.3 x 31.5 x 11.8
 
  Regards
 
  Carl Otto Wollin
 
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[RBW] Shipping framesets coast to coast

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Hello RBW 

What is the cheapest way to send two framesets with racks from Sacramento CA to 
Bilenly Cycle Works in PA. 

The frames are going to have couplers installed.

The box is 54.3 x 31.5 x 11.8 

Regards 


Carl Otto Wollin
  

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RE: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifters with campy/shimano drivetrain

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Thank  you all for your quick response.

Regards
Carl Otto Wollin
 Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 07:53:08 -0700
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifters with campy/shimano drivetrain
 From: earlg...@gmail.com
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
 Of course. That's the beauty of friction!
 
 Gernot
 
 
 On Aug 9, 5:43 pm, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.com wrote:
  Works in friction shift mode. I run Campy Veloce der on Dura Ace cogs that
  way using bar ends.
 
  On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Carl Otto Wollin 
 
 
 
  carlottowol...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hello RBW
 
   Question regarding Silver Shifters
 
   Is it possible to use SS shifters with a Camapgnolo rearmech on a Shimano
   Cassette.
 
   I´m thinking of using SS shifters + campy new athena + Shimano 12 - 28
   Cassette.
 
   This is for my new ranndonneur bike - the reason for this is I´don´t like
   the style oh the Shimano rearmech, but the shimano cassette spacing is 
   more
   common.d
 
   Have anyone tried this combination before.
 
   Rgerads
 
   Carl Otto Wollin
 
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[RBW] Silver Shifters with campy/shimano drivetrain

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Hello RBW
Question regarding Silver Shifters
Is it possible to use SS shifters with a Camapgnolo rearmech on a Shimano 
Cassette.
I´m thinking of using SS shifters + campy new athena + Shimano 12 - 28 Cassette.
This is for my new ranndonneur bike - the reason for this is I´don´t like the 
style oh the Shimano rearmech, but the shimano cassette spacing is more common.d
Have anyone tried this combination before. 
Rgerads
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RE: [RBW] Re: How to convert a Bike with 1 1/8 headset to a 1 threadset

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Thanks for your addvice, this seems to be the way to go 

Regards

Carl Otto Wollin

 Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 09:45:52 -0800
 Subject: [RBW] Re: How to convert a Bike with 1 1/8 headset to a 1 threadset
 From: eddie.fla...@att.net
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
 you could use these, but you'd need a new fork:
 
 also made by wheels manufacturing.
 
 http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/11856-318_TAMHS1-3-Parts-63-Headsets/Tamer-Headset-Reducer-offer?utm_source=Googlebaseutm_medium=datafeedutm_campaign=FTPoffer=IN210GLB.htmzmam=3075515zmas=1zmac=30zmap=318%20TAMHS1
 
 On Dec 29, 9:29 am, Carl Otto Wollin carlottowol...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
  Hello RBW List
 
  I´m interested to use my Nitto Bullmoose bar/stem on my Touring bike a 
  Thorn XTC that is build with a 1 1/8 headset. Is it possible to:
 
  1. Use the existing fork and convert the steerer with threads and a new 1 
  1/8 threaded headset. Is it possible to use a spacer to the smaller 1 
  Quill.
 
  2. Is it better to get a new 1 threaded fork with a King Devolution 
  headset, 1 1/8 to 1.
 
  3. Do you have a better idea/ solution for my problem.
 
  What do you recommend, is the first route possible or is it jusst Utopia!
 
  I wish you all a Happy new Year!
 
  Regards
 
  Carl Otto Wollin
 
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RE: [RBW] Re: How to convert a Bike with 1 1/8 headset to a 1 threadset

[Carl Otto Wollin]

OK #2 is the way to go. 

I allready have the Bullmoose bar, so the new fork is going to be ordered for 
my frame and front rack.

Regards

Carl Otto Wollin

 Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 10:53:37 -0800
 Subject: [RBW] Re: How to convert a Bike with 1 1/8 headset to a 1 threadset
 From: willh...@yahoo.com
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
 I vote for option #2 that would seem like the most elegant solution.
 
 I have never seen a setup that used 1 1/8th fork with a 1 quill stem,
 using some kind of an adapter. perhaps something could be fab'd up.
 
 unless your married to the fork I would use the King devolution, I
 guess it comes down to which is more important to you, the existing
 fork or the bullmoose bars.
 
 On Dec 29, 9:29 am, Carl Otto Wollin carlottowol...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
  Hello RBW List
 
  I´m interested to use my Nitto Bullmoose bar/stem on my Touring bike a 
  Thorn XTC that is build with a 1 1/8 headset. Is it possible to:
 
  1. Use the existing fork and convert the steerer with threads and a new 1 
  1/8 threaded headset. Is it possible to use a spacer to the smaller 1 
  Quill.
 
  2. Is it better to get a new 1 threaded fork with a King Devolution 
  headset, 1 1/8 to 1.
 
  3. Do you have a better idea/ solution for my problem.
 
  What do you recommend, is the first route possible or is it jusst Utopia!
 
  I wish you all a Happy new Year!
 
  Regards
 
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[RBW] How to convert a Bike with 1 1/8 headset to a 1 threadset

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Hello RBW List

I´m interested to use my Nitto Bullmoose bar/stem on my Touring bike a Thorn 
XTC that is build with a 1 1/8 headset. Is it possible to: 

1. Use the existing fork and convert the steerer with threads and a new 1 1/8 
threaded headset. Is it possible to use a spacer to the smaller 1 Quill.

2. Is it better to get a new 1 threaded fork with a King Devolution headset, 1 
1/8 to 1.

3. Do you have a better idea/ solution for my problem.


What do you recommend, is the first route possible or is it jusst Utopia!

I wish you all a Happy new Year!

Regards

Carl Otto Wollin

 
  

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[RBW] Fenders and Tire issues

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Hello RBW
I´m looking for your help and addvice regarding fenders for my bike with 26 x 
1.75 - 2.0 tires. The bike is my commuter/touring bike. What do you use and 
reccomend I have looked in to the following fenders:
Velo Orange 26 x 60 mm fenders in aluminium 
http://www.velo-orange.com/vo60fefor26w.html 
or steel: http://www.velo-orange.com/vo45ststfe1.html
Are the Velo Orange similar to Berthoud http://www.wallbike.com/fenders.html
Another alternative i sto use the 650 B x 50 mm Honjo: 
http://www.velo-orange.com/ho50ha65fe.html
Is the Radius the same between the 650 B and 26 inch (559), I´m thinking about 
the Berthoud fender list 650 B x 50: 
http://www.wallbike.com/berthoud/fenderchart.pdf
The tires I wan´t to use is either the 26 x 1.75 Panaracer Paselas or the 26 x 
2.0 Schwalbe Marathon Supreme. I believe these tires has the same actual with.
Thank you beforehand
All ideas, addvice are welcome!
Regards
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RE: [RBW] Re: Fenders and Tire issues

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Hello Angus
Thank you for your comments!
How are the Panaracer Ribmos for touring, what are the actual with for that 
tire?
Regards
Carl Otto Wollin

 Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 04:57:15 -0700
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Fenders and Tire issues
 From: angusle...@sbcglobal.net
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
 Carl,
 
 I have 26x2.0 on my All-Rounder and used the WIDE 26x65 SKS fenders
 from RBW.  Tires are 26x2.0 Panaracer Ribmos.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951...@n08/4739412549/
 
 As stated on the RBW site they really are quite large, that helps in
 the wet.
 
 Angus
 
 
 
 On Sep 4, 4:05 am, Carl Otto Wollin carlottowol...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
  Hello RBW
  I´m looking for your help and addvice regarding fenders for my bike with 26 
  x 1.75 - 2.0 tires. The bike is my commuter/touring bike. What do you use 
  and reccomend I have looked in to the following fenders:
  Velo Orange 26 x 60 mm fenders in 
  aluminiumhttp://www.velo-orange.com/vo60fefor26w.html
  or steel:http://www.velo-orange.com/vo45ststfe1.html
  Are the Velo Orange similar to Berthoudhttp://www.wallbike.com/fenders.html
  Another alternative i sto use the 650 B x 50 mm 
  Honjo:http://www.velo-orange.com/ho50ha65fe.html
  Is the Radius the same between the 650 B and 26 inch (559), I´m thinking 
  about the Berthoud fender list 650 B x 
  50:http://www.wallbike.com/berthoud/fenderchart.pdf
  The tires I wan´t to use is either the 26 x 1.75 Panaracer Paselas or the 
  26 x 2.0 Schwalbe Marathon Supreme. I believe these tires has the same 
  actual with.
  Thank you beforehand
  All ideas, addvice are welcome!
  Regards
  Carl Otto Wollin  
 
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[RBW] What to do in Seattle and Portland?

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Hello 

Now its time to go west again! 

This time I´m on my way to visit Seattle and Portland in the third week of 
September. Do anyone have any ideas, advise etc on what to do and see in the 
area and where to stay in a inexpensive BB / Youth Hostel. I believe the best 
way to explore the city´s is by bike, do you now where I can rent one? 

I´m interested in bike and fashion in a Rivendell classic kind of way. I´m 
looking for genuine stuff like Archival Clothings great flickr site:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/sets/

I´m going to spend a couple of days in each city and then head down to 
Sacramento and San Fransisco.

Thank you beforehand, your ideas and tips area greatly appreciated!

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RE: [RBW] Rack on Rambouillet

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Hello Steve 

Where have you bought those bags do you know if they are still availble. I´m 
looking for bags in the same style.

Regards

Carl Otto Wollin, Sweden

 Subject: RE: [RBW] Rack on Rambouillet
 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:26:00 -0500
 From: frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
 Actually, the Rambouillet is biased toward rear loading.  I've carried a 
 biggish saddle bag and lightly loaded Hobo-style handlebar bag on mine for 
 trips exactly as you're describing.  Fifteen or twenty pounds of gear 
 (including bags and rack/supports.  Bike handled it just fine.
 
 I don't have a pic of the Rambly loaded, but these are the same bags and same 
 load, give or take, on my Saluki:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738...@n08/4300021077/sizes/l/
 
 On a railtrail just outside of LaCrosse, Wisconsin...
 
 Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of George Strickler
 Sent: Sun 1/24/2010 10:10 AM
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [RBW] Rack on Rambouillet
 
 I am contemplating a 10-14 day trip this summer using plastic and
 sleeping in beds.  I would like to use my Rambouillet but I think I
 need to carry a bit more than will go in my handlebar bag which is the
 only bag I've ever used with the bike.  I have another bike set up for
 heavy loads.  I know the Ram is not designed for carrying a lot of
 rear weight but I was thinking that a smallish set of panniers on a
 rear rack would work.  Recommendations for a rack or should I go low
 riders in the front?
 
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RE: [RBW] Rack on Rambouillet

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Hello RBW

I can´t find that traditional looking handlbar bag in cotton duck only the 
saddlebags like the Nelson and Barley. I´m looking for that convenient style 
that do not need a rack. All ideas are welcomed.

Carl Otto Wollin 

 Subject: RE: [RBW] Rack on Rambouillet
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 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:50:02 -0500
 
 On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 16:43 +0100, Carl Otto Wollin wrote:
  Hello Steve 
  
  Where have you bought those bags do you know if they are still
  availble. I´m looking for bags in the same style.
 
 
 Peter White has them:  http://peterwhitecycles.com/carradice.asp
 That looks like the Super C handlebar bag and possibly a Nelson Longflap
 in back.
 
 You can also get them directly from Carradice in the UK
 http://carradice.co.uk/  if you can't find somebody local who has them
 
 
 
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RE: [RBW] Re: Rack on Rambouillet

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Hello, Acorn is the way to go thank you for your input.

Carl O Wollin

 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 08:21:20 -0800
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Rack on Rambouillet
 From: perks@gmail.com
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
 The closest you will get to that bar bag is an Acorn, www.acornbags.com
 
 The bag they sell is smaller than the carradice above, but will work
 better for bars narrower than 46cm.  The carradice bag is a licky find
 that comes up from time to time.  One was for sale here on the list a
 few months back, usually a couple a year turn up.  The carradice is
 perfect for getting 2 dozen eggs home from the market.  And no mine is
 nott for sale ;)
 
 Rob
 
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 wrote:
  Hello RBW
 
  I can´t find that traditional looking handlbar bag in cotton duck only the 
  saddlebags like the Nelson and Barley. I´m looking for that convenient 
  style that do not need a rack. All ideas are welcomed.
 
  Carl Otto Wollin
 
 
 
 
 
   Subject: RE: [RBW] Rack on Rambouillet
   From: palin...@his.com
   To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
   Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:50:02 -0500
 
   On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 16:43 +0100, Carl Otto Wollin wrote:
Hello Steve
 
Where have you bought those bags do you know if they are still
availble. I´m looking for bags in the same style.
 
   Peter White has them:  http://peterwhitecycles.com/carradice.asp
   That looks like the Super C handlebar bag and possibly a Nelson Longflap
   in back.
 
   You can also get them directly from Carradice in the UK
  http://carradice.co.uk/ if you can't find somebody local who has them
 
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RE: [RBW] Rack on Rambouillet

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Hi Steve

Thanks for the uppdate, so its a co-op between Rivendell and Carradice now I 
know the story. How do you compare Acorns to Carradice and Berthoud.

Carl Otto Wollin 

 Subject: RE: [RBW] Rack on Rambouillet
 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 12:13:49 -0500
 From: frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
 Hi, Carl--those bags are from a brief run of bags that Rivendell had 
 Carradice make for them to their specifications some years ago.  They're 
 labeled Carradice but they are Grant/Riv designs.  They filled a gap in Rivs 
 bag makers between the earlier Gunsmoke-themed bags (L'il Joe, Hoss, Etc) and 
 the later Sacksville models.
 
 I guess Riv isn't offering a bar bag in the hobo, style right now (that was 
 Grant's designation for this sort of bar bag) but perhaps they will again, or 
 another company does something similar.  The closest Riv is doing right now 
 is the V-barbox, which is a bit more square.
 
 http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/brand-v-barbox/20-198
 
 Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI
 
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 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: [RBW] Rack on Rambouillet
 
 
 Hello RBW
 
 I can´t find that traditional looking handlbar bag in cotton duck only the 
 saddlebags like the Nelson and Barley. I´m looking for that convenient style 
 that do not need a rack. All ideas are welcomed.
 
 Carl Otto Wollin
 
  Subject: RE: [RBW] Rack on Rambouillet
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  To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
  Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:50:02 -0500
 
  On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 16:43 +0100, Carl Otto Wollin wrote:
   Hello Steve
  
   Where have you bought those bags do you know if they are still
   availble. I´m looking for bags in the same style.
 
 
  Peter White has them:  http://peterwhitecycles.com/carradice.asp
  That looks like the Super C handlebar bag and possibly a Nelson Longflap
  in back.
 
  You can also get them directly from Carradice in the UK
  http://carradice.co.uk/  if you can't find somebody local who has them
 
 
 
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard from 1996

[Carl Otto Wollin]

Hello Jim 

Thank you for posting those inspiring pictures. What is the size of the frame 
and what is the length of the stem? How is the Nitto Campee works with Berthoud 
panniers. I´m curios to know because I´m in the porocess of building my dream 
touring bike in same tradition.

Regards

Carl Otto Wollin

 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:22:33 -0700
 Subject: [RBW] Rivendell Road Standard from 1996
 From: cloud...@aol.com
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
 
 I added some photographs of my Rivendell Road Standard from 1996 to
 the flickr photosharing website (Rivendell Group) and I thought I'd
 post a message on the RBW discussion group.  I requested the bicycle,
 during its original build with Bruce Gordon style rack mounts on the
 fork, pinstriping and a custom paint job which is one that was
 available on the first generation Paramount Design Group Paramount
 bikes from 1980.  The color is called Light Saddle Metallic, and was
 originally an automotive finish.
 
 This bike was originally equipped for fast sports riding, but I've
 recently redone it for light touring (thankfully, I had the necessary
 brazed attachments on the original build, sorry Maynard...).  The bike
 has very close clearances so the mounting of Honjos is somewhat
 compromised and really only works with tires of 28mm width (or less).
 Honjos aren't really too necessary in Tucson, but they look nice!
 
 I mounted the Berthoud GB2886 handlebar bag with a Mark's rack and VO
 Classic decaleur, it has worked quite well with this setup.
 
 Here's the link to the photos:  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/37964...@n05/sets/72157619758078965/
 
 Jim
 
  

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