Re: [RBW] Considering trading my Ram for a Lightning Bolt

[Evan E.]

Oops. I meant Max, not Alex. 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Club Rides On A Racing Platypus

[Evan E.]

*LOVE* this story. Thank you, Leah, for telling it. 

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[RBW] Re: First Ride, First Riv

[Evan E.]

Sally,

Welcome!

Evan

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[RBW] Re: FS: Baggins Panniers, Swift, Nitto, Bar Ends

[Evan E.]

Hi Eliot,

Eric Marth of this list is on the hunt for a Cyclone GT. If he doesn’t want 
it, please place me second in the queue and let me know. 

Thank you,
Evan E.

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Re: [RBW] Riv Garage Sale hauls

[Evan E.]

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the input. Maybe my Riv garage sale skewer is indeed Ultegra. It 
looks a lot like this skewer 

 
on eBay, but this skewer is not identified as Ultegra. At any rate, I never 
thought I'd get heart palpitations from a skewer, but I do from this one. I 
thank Rivendell!

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Re: [RBW] Riv Garage Sale hauls

[Evan E.]

Thanks, Eric! The lever says "Open" on the other side. Does that help with 
identification? 

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Garage Sale Saturday

[Evan E.]

Keith H. asked about the orange Rambouillet that is missing paint. Will of 
Rivendell told me that the chainstay bridge and the seatstay bridges were 
moved farther from the rear dropout to enable larger tires to fit. “I think 
this frame will take 45s now,” he said. He didn’t say why the top tube and 
downtube and head tube are now bare steel, and I didn’t think to ask. We 
both just stood there and admired the frame. 

On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 1:16:04 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:

> Id like to know the story on the orange Rambouillet that is all stripped.  
> I love to remember that lugged frames can almost always be be repaired.  
>
> On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 2:12:20 PM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm always bummed to miss these, but those buds on the trees and bike 
>> rack full of shopper's bikes are especially painful this year.  All that 
>> rain that CA has been getting translates to snow here.  It'll be months 
>> before I could enjoy something like that.
>> On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 1:42:57 PM UTC-6 Lucky wrote:
>>
>>> Still bummed to have missed this.
>>> I bet my Tosco bar was sad to miss me!
>>>
>>> Nice Hardrock I see!
>>>
>>> On Mar 25, 2023, at 10:52, Doug Van Cleve  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Is that custom paint, or was there an orange Atlantis at some point?
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 10:08 AM Keith Paugh  wrote:
>>>
 Did you achieve #7?

 (Beautiful Atlantis )

 k.

 On Mar 25, 2023, at 9:53 AM, Matthew Williams  
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Re: [RBW] San Francisco/Bay Area Riv Riders

[Evan E.]

So: on January 1 meet at 10am at Coffee Movement (1737 Balboa), followed by 
a 10:30am departure?

Note this Bay Area Riv Riders Google group:

https://groups.google.com/g/bay-area-rivendell-riders

^ Maybe post an invitation there?

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[RBW] Re: First Ride of the Platypus

[Evan E.]

Roberta asked: "Does your pedal really not wreck the soles of shoes or draw 
blood?" 

I have these "ANSJS" pedals on my commuter, and I like them:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08JPNYCJL

The pins on the ANSJS pedals, being slightly rounded or blunt, do not grip 
as well as do the pins / spikes / grub screws on Thin Gripster pedals or on 
VP Vice pedals, but I think they grip well enough for commuting, and they 
gouge the soles of my shoes less -- and they are less apt to draw blood.

Evan 


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[RBW] Re: Hobbyist Tests 46 Rust Inhibitors on Steel

[Evan E.]

Hi Nick,

Yep! I think that Fluid Film was indeed the winner on that mtbr.com thread. 
But Fluid Film didn't do nearly as well on DIY_Guy's test of 46 different 
products. Also, I know that some bike people contend that Fluid Film isn't 
thin or "flowy" enough to actually coat all of the insides of bike tubes. 
Who knows? This DIY-Guy's test is just another evaluation to ponder -- and 
another test with which to argue.

Evan

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[RBW] Hobbyist Tests 46 Rust Inhibitors on Steel

[Evan E.]

Have you heard about the man who bought 46 different rust-prevention 
products and tested them, side by side, on bits of steel? Here you go:

https://dayattherange.com/?page_id=3667

The gist: WD-40 Specialist Long-Term Corrosion Inhibitor and Frog Lube CLP 
(cleaning, lubrication, rust prevention) are the two products that best 
protected the steel against water and salt. The WD-40 corrosion inhibitor 
has the usual safety warnings and hazard warnings. The Frog Lube is 
"bio-based" and "non-hazardous in every way." 

Speaking of rust prevention: I found a piece of steel, sanded it with 
coarse sandpaper to make it shiny, and then treated it with what I had 
handy: Butcher's Boston Polish paste wax, Boeshield T-9, J. P. Weigel's 
Framesaver, and food-grade flax oil (a.k.a. raw and natural linseed oil). I 
left the steel outdoors. Here is what the steel looked like after seven 
days:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RogjxBAcQKTvtmP-TzD3ON_hlVWJDA8s/view?usp=sharing

On the morning of Day Eight and on the morning of Day Nine, I sprayed the 
steel with a fine mist of salted water (one teaspoon of salt in a quarter 
cup of water). This is what the steel looked like on the morning of Day 
Eleven:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yWR9Qa7QjIjXwktKUPwNP6xSv6G3gL9R/view?usp=sharing

It appears the clear winner in my little evaluation is Framesaver. Please 
note, however, that the food-grade flax oil had no chance at all since flax 
oil reportedly takes four weeks to dry/cure/harden. Anyway: just wanted to 
share this info with you-all in case you feel like spraying your bike tubes 
with something or other.

Evan Elliot
San Francisco

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[RBW] Re: All Time Best Paint Color

[Evan E.]

Rambouillet orange with the pearlescent gold sheen. (Honorable mention for 
Atlantis and for Rivendell blue.)

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[RBW] Re: Best all-around useful saddlebag?

[Evan E.]

Is the Swift Zeitgeist made in USA? It says here on this page, under the 
"Specs" tab

https://builtbyswift.com/shop/zeitgeist-pack/

that it is "Made in Surabaya, Indonesia out of recycled materials." 

^ Not a criticism. Just a question.

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Re: [RBW] Sayonara Japan: A Farewell Tour

[Evan E.]

Wow. Beautiful photos! John, how long were you in Japan? (Sorry if you 
already explained but I missed your explanation.) And if you were to return 
to Japan for, say, one week and you could take just one ride or one loop 
that you have taken before, which would it be? Shikoku proper? Or Shimanami 
Kaido? Or? 

Evan 

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[RBW] Re: Free: Brass Housing Caps/Ferrules for Shifter Housing

[Evan E.]

That was fast. The housing caps are spoken for. Thanks.

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[RBW] Free: Brass Housing Caps/Ferrules for Shifter Housing

[Evan E.]

Do you need some brass housing caps (aka ferrules) for shifter housing? The 
caps that Rivendell sells but that are sold out right now? These:

https://www.rivbike.com/products/baggie-of-brass-ferrules-4mm-and-5mm

I have, extra, four new brass housing caps for 4mm shifter housing. If 
you'd like them for the price of zero, please reply off list and I'll pop 
them into a first-class and envelope and pray that they reach you. I pay 
postage.

Thanks,
Evan

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Re: [RBW] Re: Club Rides On A Racing Platypus

[Evan E.]

Racing Platypus. Upright handlebars. Safety triangle on a belt. Thousand 
helmet. 16-19mph. She is . . . the most interesting person on this list. 

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[RBW] Re: Sugino XD2 BCD?

[Evan E.]

According to this site, 
 both the inner 
and outer chainrings on the XD2 are 110 BCD.


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[RBW] Re: Mid-80 steel frames that could be Roadini standins

[Evan E.]

Yankeebird,

For all I know, you’ve found a bike by now. But in case you haven’t, how 
about a minty Schwinn, built by Panasonic, circa 1984?

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-1984-schwinn-super-sport/7400869490.html

Not my bike. I’m just an enabler.

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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

[Evan E.]

An outfit called Clintonville Leather, on Etsy, sells leather top tube 
protectors in different lengths. Good quality leather, backed by a strip of 
inner tube and secured with Chicago screws. Here 
.
 
No affiliation.

>
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Re: [RBW] What draws you to a single speed bike?

[Evan E.]

Roberta: I have just one thing to add to this thread. One of the things I 
like most about single-speed is that it encourages effort. When I’m out on 
my single-speed bike and I see a hill up ahead, I start pedaling harder 
right away so that when I reach that hill I’ll get up it without suffering 
too much. I live in a hilly place, so I ride with a steady threat of pain. 
This threat keeps my feet spinning and my heart pumping, and that’s a good 
thing. About halfway through each ride I’m reminded that I’m moving faster 
than I do on my geared bike, and faster is fun. 

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[RBW] Re: My First Riv: Clem Smith Jr. L, it's all the way live

[Evan E.]

Welcome, Matt! Beautiful Clem. If it's half as sweet as the bass line in 
"It's All the Way Live," then I think it's twice as nice as most other 
bikes.

On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 9:02:33 AM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:

> Beautiful, enjoy every ride and look at it often.  
>
> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 9:37:33 AM UTC-4 EricP wrote:
>
>>
>> Yea for you! These are special bikes, IMO. So far haven't even swung a 
>> leg over my Hillborne this year. Just enjoying the ride of my Clem. The bar 
>> end shifters are a change I hadn't even thought about. 
>>
>> When you get around to changing tires, try the Soma Cazadero that 
>> Rivendell sells. Seems to me it would be perfect for those trails. They do 
>> smooth out an already smooth ride. 
>>
>> Eric Platt
>> St. Paul, MN
>> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 6:08:28 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Wonderful!  I hope you have many many happy miles. The magic of the Riv 
>>> ride, ah.  
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:44:22 PM UTC-4 mma...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hello! Long time Rivendell-liker, first time Riv-enjoyer. Thanks for 
 letting me participate in the RBW group!
 After a very short test ride on a mate's Clem L 59cm I knew I had to 
 have one. Thanks to his Ebay saved search I am now an owner. This is my 
 first ever Rivendell and I'm beginning to understand why they have such a 
 dedicated following.
 I have a second hand Clem L in size 59cm, with what seems to be a 
 conservatively upgraded build (Velocity Atlas wheelset, barcons). After a 
 short shakedown ride I was quickly giving the Clem "magic bike" status. 
 I'm 
 impressed and surprised at how responsive the front end feels, something I 
 wasn't expecting out of the wheel size and overall length. The bike eats 
 rough road and rolls like that fat ass boulder from Indiana Jones. It 
 feels 
 like riding around in an old Buick and you're listening to the intro to 
 *Lakeside 
 - It's All the Way Live * 
 over 
 and over.
 I'm excited to ride this bike and to make it my own with bags, 
 upgrades, and whatnot. I'll continue to update in this thread as time 
 passes. Thanks for looking! pule
 - Matt
 [image: 1.jpg][image: 2.jpg][image: 3.jpg][image: 4.jpg]

>>>

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Re: [RBW] My Rambouillet Build

[Evan E.]

Here's my orange Rambouillet (650b). Thanks, Ben, for giving me an excuse 
to post it. :)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19TrbqrlTfcHNB9_tF1YU0UsdMqx-VaGM/view?usp=sharing


On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 1:45:19 PM UTC-8 J Schwartz wrote:

> I love this Rambouillet and it's decently wide gearing range.  Looks very 
> comfy.
>
> I'm in the process of building up a similar Canti-Romdowntube shifters 
> and non-aero levers.
> Curious if there's a trick to get non-aero housing to swoop up and down 
> gracefully like that?  Is there a type or brand that is best suited for 
> this?
> Also, does anyone know the name or code for this Ram color?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 9:36:52 AM UTC-5 Tommy Patterson wrote:
>
>> I owned a 64cm sage green Ram recently... Do you have my old bike!? I 
>> think our timelines are different. I bought mine from a used shop in 
>> western NC in spring 2018 and sold it to a list member in summer 2019. I 
>> liked almost everything about that bike but got interested in a BMC MCD and 
>> let it go. In retrospect, I regret selling that bike and I am eagerly 
>> anticipating the Roadinis coming back in stock this year. Here are two 
>> photos of my sage green Ram. 
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 4:32 PM Ben Miller  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Fellow RBW Owners,
>>>
>>> Wanted to do a little update on my Rambouillet build in progress, now 
>>> that it is actually taking form.
>>>
>>> First, a little bit of background. I've been lucky enough to have built 
>>> up four (4!) Riv bikes already, but this is really shaping up to be a truly 
>>> unique one for me. This Ram’s story started (for me) way back in late 2017 
>>> with me purchasing it off fellow list member Keith as a F/F/HS. 
>>> Unfortunately a number of not so great life events happened shortly after 
>>> that, including fracturing my leg, taking me off the bike for nearly 6 
>>> months. The frame moved with me down a new path in life, but mostly 
>>> collected dust in my garage. Not forgotten or abandoned, but definitely a 
>>> bit lonely while I worked on 2 more bikes that were more recently acquired. 
>>> During this time I quietly acquired used parts and ideas that eventually 
>>> coalesced into a build for the Rambouillet.
>>>
>>> The Ram frame itself is 64 cm painted with a beautiful sage green with a 
>>> bit of pearl iridescent to it. It has a couple of small paint chips on the 
>>> non-drive side seatstay, but otherwise in pristine condition. It was 
>>> included with a Tange headset.
>>>
>>> Previous Rivendell builds had mostly involved me purchasing brand new 
>>> components (not having a large parts bin to work off of), I think these 
>>> builds were still fun and interesting, but really been driven by new or 
>>> recent bike component technology. My vision for the Ram build is really to 
>>> focus on used/vintage/NOS stock parts as much as possible, but also fun and 
>>> practical to me. I know, not a revolutionary design principle, but this is 
>>> my first time executing it.
>>>
>>> The heart of this began around the idea of setting it up as a DT 
>>> friction shifting using a vintage Huret Duopar Eco I got off eBay. The 
>>> Duopar was originally introduced in 1975 with the Eco being released in 
>>> 1981. These 40 year old derailleurs were originally intended for 6 speed 
>>> freewheel, but through the magic of friction shifting and a little 
>>> finessing, seem to work just fine with a 9 speed cassette. The big thing 
>>> about the Duopar is it was one of first (perhaps the first?) derailluer to 
>>> handle up to a 36t cog and 40 teeth of chainwrap. My understanding is that 
>>> these RD’s are slightly controversial in terms of either loving or hating 
>>> them (lots is said about their maintenance issues), but part of this was 
>>> trying to find out for myself. As I am just starting to learn about these 
>>> derailleurs, it’d be nice to hear from others about their experience!
>>>
>>> Over the last couple of days I’ve been able to get the Duopar dialed in 
>>> and shift through a Shimano HG 11-36 cassette using Silver DT shifters and 
>>> paired with a Sugino triple that I converted to 44/30. Today I finished 
>>> mounting a pair of Paul Racer centerpulls that I got off a list member and 
>>> got strung together to the NOS Mafac levers I got off eBay. These are 
>>> mounted on the Crust Shaka bars (my new favorite bars), which is so far the 
>>> only brand new part on this build besides the Velo Orange seatpost (I did 
>>> have a vintage seatpost I had been planning on using, but the mounting 
>>> plates have a lot of corrosion that is preventing them from providing a 
>>> tight hold). With brakes on and functional, I was able to take it out and 
>>> test the shifting in real conditions. And I have to say, it feels really 
>>> nice, couldn’t be happier at this point.
>>>
>>> The eventual plan is to swap the 700c wheels for 650b (but the 650b 
>>> wheels that I had planned to go on here ended 

[RBW] Re: My Rambouillet Build

[Evan E.]

Beautiful! Congratulations!

On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 2:37:41 PM UTC-8 Ben Miller wrote:

> Opps. Here is a photo of the whole bike...
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Wanted to Buy: Downtube Shifter Clamp / Adapter

[Evan E.]

Hi George. Thank you! I’ll send you a private message. 

On Saturday, December 19, 2020 at 4:40:31 PM UTC-8 George Schick wrote:

> It's probably not exactly what you're looking for, but I have Suntour DT 
> shifters w/ clamp that can be yours just for the asking.  I'll even ship on 
> my expense - I just want to clear out my inventory.  Let me know if you're 
> interested.
>
> [image: DSCN0951.JPG]
>
> On Saturday, December 19, 2020 at 12:48:13 PM UTC-6 Evan E. wrote:
>
>> I’m looking for a downtube shifter clamp to which I can attach some 
>> Rivendell Silver downtube shifters (the shifters that Rivendell offered 
>> about seven years ago, based on the old Suntour Sprint micro-ratcheting 
>> shifters, if I recall). If you have one such clamp , 28.6, silver, that 
>> you’re willing to sell, please let me know. Thanks. And happy holidays!
>>
>> Evan Elliot in San Francisco
>>
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[RBW] Re: Wanted to Buy: Downtube Shifter Clamp / Adapter

[Evan E.]

Yep! I may end up buying the whole SunRace unit for less than the cost of a 
clamp alone. But for the next few weeks at least, I'll hope for a 
clamp alone -- used and old. Thanks!

On Saturday, December 19, 2020 at 12:30:05 PM UTC-8 Fullylugged wrote:

> Universal Cycles has the Sun race entire unit for $10.  Problem Solvers 
> has a clamp for $40.
>
> On Saturday, December 19, 2020 at 12:48:13 PM UTC-6 Evan E. wrote:
>
>> I’m looking for a downtube shifter clamp to which I can attach some 
>> Rivendell Silver downtube shifters (the shifters that Rivendell offered 
>> about seven years ago, based on the old Suntour Sprint micro-ratcheting 
>> shifters, if I recall). If you have one such clamp , 28.6, silver, that 
>> you’re willing to sell, please let me know. Thanks. And happy holidays!
>>
>> Evan Elliot in San Francisco
>>
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[RBW] Wanted to Buy: Downtube Shifter Clamp / Adapter

[Evan E.]

I’m looking for a downtube shifter clamp to which I can attach some 
Rivendell Silver downtube shifters (the shifters that Rivendell offered 
about seven years ago, based on the old Suntour Sprint micro-ratcheting 
shifters, if I recall). If you have one such clamp , 28.6, silver, that 
you’re willing to sell, please let me know. Thanks. And happy holidays!

Evan Elliot in San Francisco

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[RBW] Re: Inspiring Riv Riders: Pamela Murray

[Evan E.]

Great story, Leah!  Welcome to the list, Pam! I hope you’ll visit us once 
in a while (on the list, that is) and send us some Riv news.

Evan

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 5:28:42 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Y'all are all too funny.  You know how good the Rivs ride so I'll take any 
> opportunity to ride.  If anyone asks me if I want to ride, the answer is 
> always yes.  Example: somebody invited me to table at an event but said it 
> was in the next town over and not to ride there b/c it's too dangerous, 
> hard, or too far or something like that.  Well, the only reason I wanted to 
> do it was for the ride there.  So it was 26 miles out.  It was going to be 
> 52 miles round trip which is more than I usually ride in a day.  But I went 
> and am glad I did.  The event was only so so but the ride was great.  As 
> all rides on a Riv are.  If you come to Charlotte, I will ride with you.
>
>
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 4:58:11 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Well, if you’re gonna be like Pam you better get a physical first - 
>> that’s a pretty optimistic mileage goal! We might just tip over.
>>
>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 12:17:58 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Between you and this person that's a whole lotta Riv mileage every year. 
>>> When I get my normal riding schedule back I know what I need to do: Be more 
>>> like Leah and Pam! 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 10:10:44 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 [image: B297903F-9F56-4545-8742-AAD171CCCE34.jpeg][image: 
 89AC1AA1-D92E-4A84-AD82-94D140C20E72.jpeg][image: 
 390C0DAD-BF2F-495C-9B1D-ED16B7D642DC.jpeg][image: 
 238E117F-7E3D-4CE1-973F-54E3640EB72F.jpeg]

 I have been so inspired lately by one Pamela Murray out of Charlotte, 
 who rides a tiny 2011 Betty Foy. She is known to her community for her 
 bike 
 activism and her bike safety course, Cycling Savvy. We “met” on social 
 media.

 The reason I find her so inspiring is her impressive mileage on her 
 Rivendell. She began riding an Electra Townie (2006, I believe) and put 
 5800 miles on it. In 2011, she bought her Betty Foy and she has now logged 
 an impressive *50,200* miles on her Betty. 

 50,200 miles. Since 2011. Just take that in for a moment...

 Pamela rides rain or shine, everywhere, and for any reason. While some 
 of us are obsessing over n+1, upgrades, or aesthetics, she’s out there in 
 the true spirit of Rivendell, riding the wheels off her Riv and inspiring 
 her community to do the same. You can see her around town hauling pieces 
 of 
 furniture she finds curbside, or donating 85 pounds of food she hauled for 
 Cranksgiving, growing her “bike benefits” program, and teaching others to 
 safely cycle in the city. 

 Pamela is half my size and 5x as tough, and I doff my polka dot Nutcase 
 helmet to her. She. Is. The. Queen.

 Leah
 PS I had Pam’s permission to post this thread and her photos.




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[RBW] Re: Leah’s Raspberry Platypus: It’s here and it’s lovely!

[Evan E.]

Leah: What a beautiful frame. What a beautiful color. Love your videos. 
Congratulations!

On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 9:51:30 AM UTC-7 Ann L wrote:

> Absolutely beautiful.  I am so jealous.  The pictures made my morning and 
> I can't wait to see the finished build.
>
> On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 8:35:46 AM UTC-7 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>
>> What a great looking frame!!!
>>
>> So many terrific details.
>>
>> I've had my Sam only 2.5 months now but still enjoy looking at the 
>> details of it while taking a break mid-ride.
>>
>> Grant is among the best with the small details. 
>>
>> Such a cool headbadge!
>>
>> Congratulations!
>>
>> I hope you enjoy many wonderful miles on it.
>>
>> Look forward to built up pics like many on this list and we all share in 
>> your joy.
>>
>> Paul in Dallas
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: New Roadini day + request for a good looking crankset recommendation

[Evan E.]

Ash,

If you search “FS - Suntour XC, XT, Dura Ace, Tires, etc.” on the iBOB 
list, you’ll find a Sugino AT crankset, 170, offered from listmember David 
KW for $50.  The AT is a triple, but of course you could run it as a 
compact double.

If you search for “Spa Cycles XD-2 Touring Cranks“ you’ll find unbranded 
silver Sugino crank arms for 27 pounds sterling. Double or triple, with 
arms 160, 165, 170, 172.5, or 175.  I just saw a note on their site that 
because of COVID they are not shipping outside of the UK. But perhaps that 
will change? At any rate, the shipping costs about 20 pounds if I recall, 
but hey, the crank arms cost 27 pounds. They offer complete cranksets, too.

Just two more options to consider!

Evan

On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 9:14:22 PM UTC-7 Ash wrote:

> All, much appreciate all the recos.
>
> Now I know what to hunt for (if I choose to go the classics route on eBay) 
> or budget for (IRD/VO).  The Silver cranks are superb, but I feel that it 
> better suites (in terms of aesthetics)  a country bike like Sam or 
> Atlantis.  
>
> In the past I have seen some bike pictures on this forum that had really 
> cool looking minimal crank sets that I would have loved to put on the 
> Roadini.  Wish I had asked the owners for details.  
>
> I'd be interested to hear if anybody has experience running 1x with 
> chainring that's not specifically designed for 1x.  In general I'm a fan of 
> 2x setup.  I have Rivendell's Clipper wide low and XT 28/40t cranks.  They 
> have worked perfectly for me on various Riv-fied hybrids/MTBs, Appaloosa, 
> Atlantis and Susie.   After riding those bikes this Roadini doesn't even 
> feel like it needs multiple gears!  For the speeds I ride, there's no need 
> for a chainring bigger than 44t ever.  If I compromise the top speed a 
> little more and go with single 40 or 42t chainring, I can probably manage 
> most uphill roads around here with 34t cog, provided the setup can be 
> reliable.
>
> Again, thanks for the pointers!
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet brochure: Free for shipping

[Evan E.]

Hi David,

Yes, please! PayPal for postage OK?

(I hope this message to you is a private message. I have a new iPad and 
don’t yet know how to use it.)

Evan Elliot
San Francisco, CA

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[RBW] Re: Things I Regret: Beausage on Vacation

[Evan E.]

Leah:

I second what RichS said about pool noodles as frame-tube cushions. While 
pipe insulation works well, hollow pool noodles are even better because 
they're slightly more firm and also thicker than pipe insulation. Can be 
used many times. They cost more than pipe insulation, but bikes are worth 
it, right? 

One source:  

https://foamnoodles.com/products/black-foam-noodle?variant=28601706193=EAIaIQobChMIrIDz0rHN6gIVUvDACh3-8QcsEAQYASABEgJB7vD_BwE

Evan

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[RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.

[Evan E.]

Tuxedo Sam (black with cream accents, kind of like a fresh-poured Guinness).

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[RBW] Re: FS: Kellogg Spectrum Road Bike 62c-c x 56c-c

[Evan E.]

Wow! Beautiful bike. Beautiful photos.

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[RBW] Re: What shade of orange?

[Evan E.]

Eddie,

Could you post a pic of your bike in Brentwood Orange powder coat?

Evan

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[RBW] Re: What shade of orange?

[Evan E.]

Love the Rambouillet orange. Also like the "copper" color of the Raleigh 
International circa 1974.

>
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Brooks Brown v. Black

[Evan E.]

I vote for the black saddle. (Looks better against the frame's color.)

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[RBW] Re: Favorite Rivendell model names?

[Evan E.]

Atlantis. Saluki. Rambouillet. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Just Pics from Your Good Ride Thread

[Evan E.]

Hi Rich S.,

"Evan, your Austro-Daimler is stunning. Did you restore it?"

^ Thanks! I bought it as a frame, from Craigslist. The only restoration per 
se is the new decals. I bought them from a decal maker in Australia.

-Evan

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[RBW] Re: Golden Pliers Roadini Raffle

[Evan E.]

Congratulations, Eric! Beautiful bike (love that orange paint). Good cause!

>
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Re: [RBW] Admissions of Things You Ought to Have Known But Did Not: A Thread

[Evan E.]

When I got my first bike, as a grownup, after not riding at all since 
childhood, I oiled my chain with Phil Tenacious Oil. Because that’s the only 
oil I had. And then I left the oil on the chain. Because that’s what you do, 
right? So why, one week later, was there goo and grit all over my chain and 
rear derailleur pulleys?

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

[Evan E.]

Bones,

If you're willing to buy a vintage crank, you could might consider Igor's 
Specialized "flag" crankset here on this list:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/oY1zjwPD2KY

Or a vintage Sugino AT. Either one is a classic. And either can be run as a 
triple, a double, or a single with chainguard.

Or you could buy a new crank from Rivendell?


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[RBW] Re: New (to me) bike day -- 57cm A. Homer Hilsen

[Evan E.]

Eric,

Beautiful bike! (I, too, had a new Sam that I thought was too pretty.) 
Which powder coater did you use? 

Evan in San Francisco

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[RBW] Re: Walking boots -- not entirely unrelated to cycling

[Evan E.]

Thursday Boot Company:

https://thursdayboots.com/

Many boot enthusiasts (search online) testify that these boots are just as 
well-made and durable as boots that look similar and cost more. Supposedly 
the Thursday Boot people charge a lower markup. Don't know if that's true 
or not. 

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[RBW] Re: shipbikes.com vs. bikeflights.com

[Evan E.]

I, too, have used ShipBikes four or five times in the past several years. 
No problems at all.

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[RBW] Re: Thin Gripster alternatives?

[Evan E.]

If anyone on this list is still considering VP pedals, you might want to 
read this review from Rob Perks of Ocean Air Cycles:

http://oceanaircycles.com/2013/04/22/vp-vice-and-001-pedal-comparison/

The gist: VP Vice pedals have better bearings and a lower Q factor than do 
the VP-001 pedals (aka Thin Gripsters). 

BTW, I've been commuting on VP Vice pedals for three years now. I think the 
left pedal just developed a click. I blame you, Kieran! :)

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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Evan E.]

Love those fenders, Leah! The light bouncing off the textured aluminum 
looks like ripples on water.

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[RBW] Re: Creaking + Nitto Noodle stem compatibility

[Evan E.]

Matt D wrote: "Is anyone else running Noodles successfully on other stems 
shorter than a Technomic?"

Yes. I have Noodles attached to a Technomic Deluxe stem. The quill on the 
Technomic Deluxe is shorter than on the Technomic Standard (190mm total 
height versus 225mm).  

http://boulderbicycle.bike/Nitto-Technomic-Deluxe-190-stem-26-0-various-extensions.html

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations on cycling to Rivendell and around San Francisco and the Bay Area

[Evan E.]

Hi Ana,

If by chance you'll still be in the Bay Area on October 13, you can join a 
few of us Bay Area Rivendell Riders (Riv bike not required) for a pancake 
ride to the West Point Inn on Mount Tam. Info here:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bay-area-rivendell-riders/qxWmVLlBMfo

And if you won't be here then, you can still post a note on that list if 
you like. I imagine that with enough notice, a few of us would be happy to 
show you around or point you to some specific rides in the area.

Evan Elliot
San Francisco







On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 10:41:36 AM UTC-7, Ana Candela wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, 
>
> I’ll be attending a workshop in Santa Cruz, visiting Riv HQ, and 
> rambling/touring around the Bay Area the first ten days or so in October. 
> I’d like to ask for recommendations to locals and everyone who has done 
> this before. 
>
> There are a couple threads from which I’ve already jotted down some very 
> good ideas and suggestions (walking/transit for one day: 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/9HCur_vFbz4 
> and driving for a couple days: 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/tcDE9hIkvaA). 
>
> Now, I’ll be bringing my bike along, and I’ll be CYCLING for about a week, 
> so any bike-specific recommendations (must-do, steer-away-from) on cycling, 
> transit, multimodal traveling, eating, weather, camping, lodging, events 
> that will enhance my stay will be greatly appreciated :) 
>
> Thank you! 
> -Ana “in Seattle, currently on the train to Portland” Candela

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[RBW] Re: Pitted German mirror and possible WTB the mirror

[Evan E.]

If Roberta claims Joe's German mirror, awesome. But if anyone else wants 
one (gently used and not yet pitted), let me know. I don't need it and I'd 
like you to have it. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell frame would you resurrect?

[Evan E.]

Yes: Rambouillet. Orange. 


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[RBW] Re: Pool noodle as a safety device

[Evan E.]

Yep! I, too have no problem with e-bikes and e-scooters and motorcycles and 
motor scooters. Just as long as they are not in the bike lane — that is, an 
official lane, at the edge of the street or road, created for pedal-powered 
bicycles. (It would also be awesome if the various motorized vehicles were 
given an earth tax for whatever energy they entail or consume. But an 
accurate tax would be hard to levy because one e-bike might be powered by a 
windmill and another might be powered by a coal-burning plant, right?)


On Monday, May 20, 2019 at 5:26:02 AM UTC-7, Christopher Cote wrote:
>
> I'm with you D. Patrick. If it's a cycle with a motor, it's a motorcycle. 
> Electric, gas, whatever. I'm not anti motorcycle, I own and enjoy one. Just 
> keep the motors off the bicycle paths/trails.
>
> Chris
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[RBW] Re: Pool noodle as a safety device

[Evan E.]

Good idea to use a pool noodle to establish a safety margin. But in San 
Francisco, where I commute, one of those noodles would take up nearly the 
whole bike lane, and then riders on e-bikes and scooters on e-scooters 
couldn't whoosh past me, in silence, without warning, just inches away, at 
20 mph. Or maybe they'd just bump the noodle out of the way as they went 
by? 


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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[Evan E.]

Whoa. I think this poem from Jeff H. should be taped to shop walls and work 
benches nationwide:


* * * 

so much depends
upon

a dirt drop
stem

...with Moustache bars or flared drops? In every case.

...with cruiser or North Road bars? Make your case.

...with porteur or Jitensha bars? Edge case.

...with regular ol' drops? Head case.

Technomicon: The ratio of exposed quill shall not exceed that of the 
horizontal extension by > 5/4. 

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

* * * 

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[RBW] Re: Surprise New Bike Day: My MOM

[Evan E.]

Great story, Leah! Oh, and you saw a Sam and a Glorius all in one day in 
San Francisco? That's awesome. Clearly you have excellent Riv radar.

Evan 
SF, CA


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Re: [RBW] daily post ur riv

[Evan E.]

Rambouillet: 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19TrbqrlTfcHNB9_tF1YU0UsdMqx-VaGM/view?usp=sharing


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[RBW] PSA: For Sale "relaxed road" Rivendell custom 53 c-t in Woodland (Sacramento area), CA $2,000

[Evan E.]

No affiliation. Check those long chainstays.

https://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/d/woodland-rivendell-custom-road-bike/6810045028.html

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[RBW] Re: Cheviut? More like Chevi-awesome. Amiright?

[Evan E.]

Beauty! Love the setup, and of course the brown-green-bronze paint.

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis touch-up paint, Testors #2135 Russian Naval Interior

[Evan E.]

If you can't find a source on eBay, you might try this place in Portugal:

http://www.greenmodels.net/testors-2135-russian-interior-blue-green-14-7ml/



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[RBW] Re: Hubert's Shoe Grease - Pine Tar AND Bees Wax

[Evan E.]

Deacon Patrick: I, too, blend beeswax and coconut oil (probably got the 
recipe here on this list, from you). But I also use Obenauf's because I 
have some. And now there's Huberd's and Montana Pitch Blend and pine tar 

 
and propolis 

 
to fret about. Hey, winter begins today! The season for overthinking.

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[RBW] Re: Hubert's Shoe Grease - Pine Tar AND Bees Wax

[Evan E.]

Tony McG:

Could you elaborate on what you mean by "better luck with Obenauf's"? I'm 
not challenging you; just trying to learn in which ways Obenauf's is better 
for your saddle(s) than are Huberd's Shoe Grease and Montana Pitch Blend. 
(I've used Obenauf's for years, and I like it just fine. But a few years 
ago I stumbled across Huberd's and discovered that it had pine tar *and* 
beeswax in it. Totally Rivendellian! Haven't tried it yet.)

Evan Elliot
San Francisco, CA

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[RBW] Re: Mixed bag results: Fenders on my Leo

[Evan E.]

I've found, on my commuter bike, that the front fender (SKS Commuter) is 
too short because it doesn't reach forward quite far enough to cover the 
top, or apex, of the tire. Because of this shortfall, I can coast down a 
hill on wet pavement and watch a stream of water leap off the front tire 
and blow back toward my bike's frame, and toward my feet. Is this a 
tragedy? Not at all. And I'm not suggesting that a shorter fender is a Bad 
Thing. But I do see the value of a front fender (such as Honjo and many VO 
fenders) that reaches just beyond the highest point of the tire. 

Evan Elliot
San Francisco, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: HubbuhHubbuh email from Riv & donation idea

[Evan E.]

If all goes well with this fundraising drive -- and I hope it does -- I 
know of one person who has a special tandem rack that he can mount on top 
of his car -- and he lives in the Bay Area and drives down to LA at least 
twice a year. Please keep that in mind just in case Alex W. decides to not 
fly across the country and then drive the tandem from RBWHQ to Topanga!

Evan E.
SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: Introduction and my new MUSA Atlantis

[Evan E.]

Welcome, Erik! Sweet bike.

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[RBW] Re: What epoch of Rivster are you?

[Evan E.]

Golden age, especially the orange Rambouillet. And the Atlantis of that 
era. But I love all Rivendells, both yesterday and today.

Evan
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[RBW] Re: urban/city tire rec: 650b, 38mm or so

[Evan E.]

I, too, like Panaracer Gravel King slicks. Puncture-protected but still 
fairly responsive and not bricklike. I have the 650 x 38s on my city 
commuter. Here's one source among many:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1or-2Pak-Panaracer-GravelKing-27-5-x-1-5-1-75-1-90-Bike-Tire-Gravel-King-650B-/371908010678?var==item569771e2b6

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[RBW] Re: Would you pay more for handlebars if they were safety-certified?

[Evan E.]

Benz asked: "So, is there any need for certification then?"

Good question. I, for one, think that certification is useful -- IF that 
certification is a well-known industry standard, such as EN (which is the 
only one I've ever heard of). I guess my main point is simply this: Most 
retailers don't make clear if any given handlebar meets any given standard. 
So all consumers can do is guess and hope. Yes, guessing and hoping seems 
to works fine most of the time, since bars seldom break. But if even Nitto 
makes bars of different strengths for different markets, I think that a 
certification, such as a sticker on the handlebar or at least a note in the 
product description, could help to explain the price of the handlebars -- 
and help Nitto and its retailers to justify those prices. 

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[RBW] Would you pay more for handlebars if they were safety-certified?

[Evan E.]

Short Version:

Would you pay more for handlebars (and stems) if the seller made clear that 
those bars and stems meet established safety standards, such as EN 
standards?

Long Version:

In a recent thread called "Dear Riv, Please Make a Wider Noodle," Grant 
told a story about how Nitto was sued for a few handlebars that were broken 
by some burly riders who leaned hard on them, even though the bars were 
city bars not meant for rough riding. So that got me thinking:

Because Nitto tests its bars and stems, might they -- and their 
distributors and dealers -- publish the strength standards that their bars 
and stems meet?

If I were shopping for bars, I'd be willing to pay more for them if I knew they 
met an industry standard for strength and safety. Most sellers don't say a 
peep about safety certifications -- and don't even describe the conditions 
under which the bars should be used. (Compass is an exception. They say 
that all their Nitto bars "meet the most stringent EN 'Racing Bike' 
standard for fatigue resistance.")  

True story: A few years ago I spied, online, Nitto RM-013 bars, size 52, 
that were not heat-treated. I was confused because Nitto Noodle bars of 
similar width WERE heat-treated. Perhaps those non-heat-treated bars were 
some of the inexpensive Nitto bars that Grant mentioned -- bars not 
intended for large people riding on gravel and trails. But somehow those 
unheated Nitto bars made it to the U.S. market. Yes, they cost about half 
of what Noodles cost and what heat-treated RM-013s cost. And yes, I was 
tempted to buy them. I figured, "They're Nitto, so they're safe, right?"

For the record: I doubt I could break any bars just by riding along. I 
weigh 145 pounds. Please just humor me here and help me overthink. Thanks.

Evan Elliot
San Francisco, CA





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[RBW] Re: Other annoying threads

[Evan E.]

Ooh, pet peeves! Threads where people compete to see who is least 
competitive. ("I'm not competitive, but yesterday while I was out just 
riding my lugged steel commuter and wearing MUSA shorts and button-up shirt 
and flip-flops, I smoked a carbon-riding roadie in head-to-toe Rapha kit 
without even trying.")




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[RBW] Re: Low/No Carb Electrolyte?

[Evan E.]

I, too, drink coconut water for potassium. As for salt, I just sprinkle a 
generous amount of salt on the two boiled eggs that I eat in the morning 
before a ride. That might suffice? Then again, near the end of a hot and 
steep ride a few weeks ago, when both of my hamstring muscles cramped at 
the same time, I pulled off the road, fished a salt packet out of my 
Saddlesack (yep, a small paper packet from a fast-food restaurant), and 
poured the salt down my gullet. The cramps stopped in ten seconds. 
Psychosomatic? Maybe! But that direct hit of ordinary table salt did the 
trick.


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[RBW] Re: Pics of an older Atlantis Garage Find, updated

[Evan E.]

Beautiful! Nothing else quite like an Atlantis. Glad you've put it back on 
the road!

Evan Elliot
SF, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

[Evan E.]

Hey Deacon:  I agree. Even though I do eat coconut oil at breakfast, often 
eat almond butter at lunch, and eat olive oil at dinner, I'm still likely 
not getting enough fat calories. Also, I'm probably not getting 2,000 
calories each day. Cannot imagine eating just two meals a day. But hey, 
I'll keep working on it. Thanks again.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

[Evan E.]

Deacon Patrick:  Thanks for your paragraph! It helps a lot. I suspect that 
I may be in the middle of low-carb diets. While on most days I eat almost 
zero carbs, each Saturday I eat a restaurant basket of tortilla chips and 
about once a week I'll eat white rice with dinner. So maybe those carbs put 
me in no man's land? Also, I'm guessing I don't eat enough, period, because 
my weekday lunches are small. Also, I'm skinny, so I'm thinking I have 
almost no fat reserves.

Tom: Thanks for the info. I agree that I may be close to being fat-adapted, 
but I'm not sure I'm good at listening to my body. So I'll work on that!

Evan



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Re: [RBW] Re: Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

[Evan E.]

Hi Deacon Patrick,

"Become a fat burner and see what happens." < Could you please explain, in 
one paragraph, how to become a fat burner? I ask because a few year ago I 
read "Eat Bacon Don't Jog," and I liked it, and I followed its diet regimen 
for at least five months straight, and still today I eat a low-carb diet 
with eggs for breakfast, and plenty of coconut butter and coconut oil and 
grass-fed butter and sardines and kale and chicken and walnuts, etc. But 
I'm still pretty sure I couldn't wake up in the morning, eat a teaspoon of 
butter, go for a brisk four-hour ride, and feel great. For that I'd need to 
be a true fat-burner, right? 

If I need to read and follow another food-and-exercise book, I'm willing. 
But I'd much rather just read a paragraph from you. So please, if you're 
willing, do tell us how we can burn fat and ride with abandon.

Thank you,
Evan Elliot
SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

[Evan E.]

That's an impressive and inspiring commute, Bill. Love that second picture 
of the trail through the trees.

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[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell

[Evan E.]

Wow. Beautiful Rambouillet! I second Bill's emphatic approval. Happy riding.

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[RBW] Re: David Lance Goines Riv Bike Poster

[Evan E.]

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Re: [RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal met

[Evan E.]

Count me as another happy beneficiary of the EBDJ regimen. My HDL 
cholesterol is now higher (that's a good thing) because of it. 

If you're reading this and you somehow haven't already tried the EBDJ plan, 
note two things:

1. "Paleo flu" is a thing. Know that for five, or ten, or twenty days after 
you go low-carb, you may well feel sluggish, irritable, headachy. Stay the 
course. It gets better.

2. In addition to coconut oil being awesome, coconut butter 

 
is pretty great, too. It's pureed coconut meat, so it's not as oily as oil, 
but it still contains plenty of oil and fat and calories. I find the butter 
much easier to eat from a spoon than coconut oil. But the butter doesn't 
melt easily into coffee, so you'll want oil for that. Add some grass-fed 
butter to your coffee, too. Tastes good. People will think it's even more 
disgusting than oil, alone, in your coffee.

Evan

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Evan E.]

Last night I purchased one Hail Mary credit and one $100 gift certificate. 
I'm more than happy to give Rivendell $110. I see it as a cash advance to 
them. (I would have bought some merchandise, too, but I need nothing now. 
Will think of something in summer or fall.)



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[RBW] Re: OT: Lennard Zinn documents heart problem

[Evan E.]

This doctor at the University of California, San Francisco, says that "when 
it comes to harmful health effects, sugar is worse than fat." I hope he'll 
expand his argument to embrace all simple carbohydrates, and I hope more 
cardiologists -- and more people in general -- listen to him:

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2009/06/8187/obesity-and-metabolic-syndrome-driven-fructose-sugar-diet


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Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

[Evan E.]

Yep! At what point does a "the owner didn't claim it" bike become "my 
bike"?  When I saw that Sam in San Francisco, locked up outdoors for months 
on end, I twice placed an ad on Craigslist asking the owner that if she or 
he no longer wanted that Sam Hillborne parked somewhere in the city, I'd be 
interested in buying it. No reply. Not that I expected one. But I was 
sincerely trying to get that bike back indoors -- and preferably reunited 
with the owner who locked it up.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

[Evan E.]

About five years ago I occasionally walked past an orange Sam Hillborne 
that had been locked up in one place, outdoors, for so long that the 
components were all rusted and the spokes were a tangle of spider webs. I 
stopped by my local police station and asked an officer if the owner could 
be notified. Or, failing that, was there a specific point at which a locked 
bike could be considered abandoned? The officer said no. And he added that 
no matter how long that bike might sit, "it's someone else's property." 
Fair enough. I stopped wondering about the bike. Then a few months later, I 
walked past Sam's parking place and the bike was gone. I never knew if a 
thief took it or the owner came back to claim it.

Evan Elliot
San Francisco

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[RBW] Re: Suntour Power Thumb Shifters

[Evan E.]

I had Suntour thumb shifters on my Sam. They worked great--pulled enough 
cable to shift across a nine-speed cassette. Loved that ratchet sound.

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[RBW] Re: Adam's Chev on the BLUG

[Evan E.]

Sean,

If you have a Mark's rack, I think the medium basket is a good choice 
because it's not only well-sized for a smallish rack but because, per 
Rivendell, the rack has a limit of 4.4 pounds. Easier to keep your load 
under that weight when you have a medium basket.

Evan E.
SF, CA 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 650b tires: the fat and the skinny about them?

[Evan E.]

Patrick Moore asked: "So what does 'optimum' mean here?"

There is, of course, no such thing as "optimum width" for a 650B tire, 
because different riders have different druthers. But if I recall, Jan took 
pains to test different tire widths until he determined what is, according 
to him, the optimum width of 650B tire -- that is, for most riders, most of 
the time, on the surfaces that most of us ride on (such as bumpy roads, 
cracked pavement, etc.). For what it's worth, I'm perfectly happy with 
650x38s on my city commuter. But I'm even happier with 650x42s on my road 
bike. If Tom likes his Hutchinson Confrérie des 650B tires at about 33mm 
wide, awesome!

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[RBW] Re: 650b tires: the fat and the skinny about them?

[Evan E.]

Tom,

If you really want narrow 650B tires, you can buy Grand Bois Cypres 650Bx32 
tires from the company's website 
<https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1=en=search=translate.google.com=ja=nmt4=http://www.cyclesgrandbois.com/SHOP/T650_F32_SS.html=ALkJrhgDEI4jvXF9B4DVjYkDtlqSNd_DKw>
 
in Japan. But I think that, yes, if you go wider, such as the 650Bx38 Loup 
Loup Pass from Compass, or the 650Bx38 Pari-Moto, you'll get the 
combination of comfort, speed, and traction that 650B tires offer. (Col de 
La Vies are far less supple and plush.) And in fact, I think that a few 
years ago Jan Heine of Bicycle Quarterly/Compass determined, through 
testing, that 42mm is the optimum width for performance on 650B tires. This 
is especially true on rough roads where a wide tire soaks up bumps that 
would, on narrower tires, cause "suspension losses" that slow you down. So: 
your current tires might be the ideal width, after all.

Evan E.
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[RBW] Re: Lessons in Singlespeeding

[Evan E.]

Love this thread! Love this line from Deacon Patrick: "Ride till you can’t, 
walk till you can." I like how my single-speed encourages me to pedal 
harder than I otherwise might, to keep the cadence comfortable. It's 
training disguised as fun.


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[RBW] Re: Calling Ron Mc for handlebar comparison photo

[Evan E.]

Hi Alan,

I recall that photo, but can't find it. But just in case it helps, here's 
some research I did, a while back, on four similar bars: 

- Nitto B2522 Jitensha bar: aluminum, 580mm wide, no rise

- Ahearne + MAP bar: aluminum, 575mm or 615mm wide, 25mm rise

- VO Postino bar: aluminum, 570mm wide, no rise

- Nitto B206 Nordeast bar: chromoly, 525mm wide, 15mm rise

Yes, they differ in finish and they may vary in durability, but it's hard 
to tell for sure since most handlebar retailers don't mention results of EN 
testing or other tests.   

Evan

On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 6:15:39 AM UTC-8, alan lavine wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> Looking to replace drop bars with something upright, such as jitensha, 
> MAP, postino, vo porter, etc.
>
> Awhile back there was a composite photo of several such bars posted, I 
> think, by Ron Mc.  Can anyone find it and re-post?
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
> NYC
>

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[RBW] Re: For Free or for Cheap: Tires, Bars, Pump Holder, Panniers, Hubs, Freewheel . . .

[Evan E.]

Here's what's left:

Pivo handlebars (39cm wide at the hoods) and stem (90mm extension).  < FREE

Public double panniers:  Boxy. Roomy. Vinyl. Gently used.   $10

Shimano freewheel 14-34   < FREE

Two Fish pump holder from Rivendell  < FREE

Shimano Deore LX FH-M565 Parallax hub. Spins smoothly. 135 spacing.  $5

Pair of 650Bx38 tires: one is Mitsuboshi Trimline; the other is Panaracer 
Col de La Vie. At least 48% of tread remains.  < FREE

One Panaracer Pasela 700x35 (it's an old tire, so likely closer to 32mm 
wide). At least 50% of tread remains. < FREE

Pictures:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-h0MXb6wvXQbWcNyKQ2A_aQttmRcEBvk

Pickup in San Francisco (North Beach) strongly preferred. Please reply via 
private message if you can. Thanks!

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[RBW] For Free or for Cheap: Tires, Bars, Pump Holder, Panniers, Hubs, Freewheel . . .

[Evan E.]

If you can pick up in San Francisco (North Beach), that's strongly 
preferred. But if for some reason you're willing to pay for shipping, I'm 
willing to pack and ship.

The photos in the link below correspond with the list of items below.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-h0MXb6wvXQbWcNyKQ2A_aQttmRcEBvk


Pivo Handlebars (39cm wide at the hoods) and Stem (90mm extension).  < FREE

Public Double Panniers:  Boxy. Roomy. Vinyl. Gently used.   $10

Shimano Freewheel 14-34   < FREE

Two Fish pump holder from Rivendell  < FREE

Normandy Hubs. The rear hub (it measures 132 mm, I think) spins smoothly. 
The front hub spins roughly.  < FREE

Quick Releases for old Weinmann (I think) centerpull brakes.   < FREE

Shimano Deore LX FH-M565 Parallax hub. Spins smoothly. 135 spacing.  $5

Pair of Jack Brown blue label tires, 700x33  One of the tires is dirtier 
and more worn than the other. About 25% of tread remains.  < FREE

Pair of old 650Bx38 tires: one is Mitsuboshi Trimline; the other is 
Panaracer Col de La Vie. At least 48% of tread remains.  < FREE

One Panaracer Pasela 700x35 (it's an old tire, so likely closer to 32mm 
wide). At least 50% of tread remains. < FREE

Pair of Rivendell Panaracer Nifty Swifty 650bx32.8 (or so) Speedblend 
tires. These tires have Grant's patented Speedblend colors on one side, and 
standard tan wall on the other side. At least 85% of tread remains. If 
these tires are collectible, please pay me $10. If they aren't, please pay 
me zero dollars.

Please reply via private message if you can. Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: New (old) bike day? An Eroica bike

[Evan E.]

Beautiful bike, Bill! I love old Univegas and Miyatas. Often underrated, I 
think. And any Univega with "Gran" in the name is especially nice, with lug 
windows and the like. Sweet Suntour bits, too.

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[RBW] Re: Driver: "I don't know bike language"

[Evan E.]

"When using your right arm to indicate a right turn, your body can block 
the motorist from seeing it."  < Yep!  I most often signal a right turn by 
extending my right arm and pointing to my right. But if a car is behind me 
and slightly to my left, then I also do the old-school 
raise-the-left-arm-bent-at-the-elbow signal. Someday I'll crash while 
trying to signal with both hands.

Glad you're OK, Deacon!

Evan
SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: 650b Rear Wheel, or Advice on Which to Buy

[Evan E.]

Hi Lum Gim Fong: Thanks for the offer! I'm in San Francisco. Am all set 
with wheels now, thanks to Scott C. and to an S.F. list member, Gordo.  

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: 650b Rear Wheel, or Advice on Which to Buy

[Evan E.]

Thanks, everyone, for your input! I just sent a private message to Scott C. 
about his wheel (I weigh 150 pounds if that, so 28 spokes sounds fine).  

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[RBW] Wanted: 650b Rear Wheel, or Advice on Which to Buy

[Evan E.]

Do you have a silver, 32-spoke, 130-spaced 650b rear wheel sitting around 
forlorn? If so, I'd
like to buy it or at least take a look (in person or in pictures) for my 
new-to-me Rambouillet. If not, I have a dilemma I'm sure you-all can help 
me with:

1. Invest in a proper rear wheel, built by Rich Lesnick.
~ or ~
2. Check my LBS to see what they have.
~ or ~
3. Buy these BIKE 650B WHEELSET RIM BRAKE 27.5 SLVR 130 MM HUB 8/10 SPD WEI 
ZAC19 36 H wheels from UglyRM on eBay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BIKE-650B-WHEELSET-RIM-BRAKE-27-5-SLVR-130-MM-HUB-8-10-SPD-WEI-ZAC19-36-H-/252604585112?hash=item3ad0681498:g:9f8AAOSw8RJXCUGl

Yes, door #3 is the cheap path. The spokes are 36, and straight gauge (I 
think?), and may not be tensioned properly. The Zac19 rims may be a pain to 
mount tires on. The hubs might be mediocre. But that price though.

Please talk some sense into me. Budget wheels aren't, right?

Thanks, 
Evan E.
San Francisco, CA



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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vs A. Homer Hilsen

[Evan E.]

Paul:  Your future black Sam sounds like a good call, but I, too, think 
that some Walnut Creek test rides will help you decide. (Here's a picture 
of my blue Sam.)

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[RBW] Re: New Clem L

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Beautiful bike, Joe! Love the color. 

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[RBW] Re: Roast your own coffee?

[Evan E.]

You-all probably know this already? But the New York Times reports that 
frozen coffee beans grind more uniformly, producing better flavor:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/17/science/coffee-freeze-beans-grind.html?action=click=Personal%20Tech=RelatedCoverage=EndOfArticle=article

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roast your own coffee?

[Evan E.]

Ray: What is your roasting method? And your source for green beans? Last 
year I tried two different popcorn poppers over a few months, with green 
beans from Sweet Maria's and elsewhere, and had decent but inconsistent 
results, mostly inferior to the various roasted whole-bean coffees that I 
could buy. And the price for green beans, including shipping, wasn't all 
that much lower. 

This is a great thread! Thanks, everybody, for the details, such as *Behmor 
1600 *and *Mr. Green Beans *from John.

Evan E. in SF

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[RBW] Re: Current location(s) for visiting Rivendell?..

[Evan E.]

Hi Max,

As far as I know, Rivendell headquarters is the only Rivendell place to 
visit when you're in the Bay Area. They do have a showroom there, though. 
And, as you likely already know, a bunch of friendly Riv folk.



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