Re: [RBW] Re: Frame for sale

[John McBurney]

Sorry if I offended you. Please disregard.

John.

On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 5:12 PM 'Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> By what logic do you figure that a for-sale post for a Salsa frame, Soma
> fork, and Cane Creek headset is "somewhat Riv related?"
>
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Re: [RBW] tubeless tire repair & maint Q

[John McBurney]

I too am a tubeless newbie. It amazes me how with patience slow leaks take
care of themselves.

John

On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 11:27 AM PaulS  wrote:

> How long Sealant lasts really depends on your climate and time of the
> year. Winter times here, it lasts almost the whole season. Summer, it’s
> maybe every 2 months?
>
> I don’t pull the valve. I just break the bead to check. Pumping back up is
> no issue, as long as you don’t break the bead on the other side of the rim.
>
> Tools. I carry one tube and a basic tool kit. No patches unless I’m headed
> way out in the backcountry (TM). There are also tire plug kits which have
> become popular since they work well. I just never saw the need as most
> punctures seal up well for me.
>
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> https://cyclingtips.com/2017/12/dynaplug-tubeless-tyre-repair-review-air-racer-carbonlite/
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone used Gravelking 650b x 38 mm tubeless

[John McBurney]

I stand corrected. I am surprised. I run Compass 42 x 700 and 38 x 700
tubeless and 28 x 700 with tubes. I assume the 39 x650b reflects stock on
hand. I ran into this with Bruce Gordon (God rest his soul) Rock and Road
where the 700 s were not tubeless being made with a previous generation
mold but 650b were tubeless compatible. Maybe the Compass 650b 38s tube
required will sell out. May be worth an email to compass

John

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 8:23 PM Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:

> I like Compass tires too, but the 650b x 38 mm are not compatible with
> tubeless, so that is why I am going to give the Gravel Kings a try.  I will
> let everyone know how it goes.
>
> Toshi
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 2:27 PM John McBurney  wrote:
>
>> I’m a daily bike commuter and as I think about it all my bikes run
>>  compass tires. I ran Gravel Kings for a while on my commuter . OK but not
>> as well made even though both made by panaracer. More flats than Compass
>> too.  I like the 3 mm rubber in compass more than a breaker belt. When I
>> ditched my GK they were just so thin.
>>
>> Honestly all my bikes run compass. 2 with tubes, 2 tubeless.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 5:20 PM spencer robinson  wrote:
>>
>>> I am running 700x38 gravel Kings on Velocity A-23 rims and the
>>> combination works very well. I could not get them to “jump on” the rims
>>> till I ran them with tubes for a few days, that took the folds out of the
>>> casing...then, pulled the tubes out, a quick blast with the air compressor
>>> and they seated beautifully, nice and straight, held air over night. I
>>> added sealant and they hold air great, I may add a little sit once a month.
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 8:20:48 PM UTC-5, ttoshi wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking of using Gravelking 650b x 38mm tubeless with A23 rims.
>>>> Has anyone used these Gravelkings?  I've never used tubeless before, so I'm
>>>> trying to solicit experience with the 38s. Most of the tubeless seem to use
>>>> fatter tires, presumably for lower pressure.  What pressure would you run
>>>> the 38s?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Toshi in Oakland
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone used Gravelking 650b x 38 mm tubeless

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I’m a daily bike commuter and as I think about it all my bikes run  compass
tires. I ran Gravel Kings for a while on my commuter . OK but not as well
made even though both made by panaracer. More flats than Compass too.  I
like the 3 mm rubber in compass more than a breaker belt. When I ditched my
GK they were just so thin.

Honestly all my bikes run compass. 2 with tubes, 2 tubeless.

John

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 5:20 PM spencer robinson  wrote:

> I am running 700x38 gravel Kings on Velocity A-23 rims and the combination
> works very well. I could not get them to “jump on” the rims till I ran them
> with tubes for a few days, that took the folds out of the casing...then,
> pulled the tubes out, a quick blast with the air compressor and they seated
> beautifully, nice and straight, held air over night. I added sealant and
> they hold air great, I may add a little sit once a month.
>
> On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 8:20:48 PM UTC-5, ttoshi wrote:
>>
>> I'm thinking of using Gravelking 650b x 38mm tubeless with A23 rims.  Has
>> anyone used these Gravelkings?  I've never used tubeless before, so I'm
>> trying to solicit experience with the 38s. Most of the tubeless seem to use
>> fatter tires, presumably for lower pressure.  What pressure would you run
>> the 38s?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Toshi in Oakland
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Re: [RBW] Drivetrain Hack

[John McBurney]

Thanks Bruce!

John

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:51 PM Fullylugged 
wrote:

> Nice looking bike John.  I used that CX-50 to build a New Albion Starling
> for a relative and it is smooth unit, intended for cyclocross so very
> tough. I need a lower gear than you because I have weak old legs.  I put a
> Salsa 26 in place of the stock Campy 30 on a triple and went with an 11-36
> rear 9 speed on 105/Synergy wheels I built. 26/36 works for me when going
> up long grades that I otherwise would climb more quickly in a taller gear,
> and when I need to get up a real wall of a hill. The Clem I just assembled
> for a friend has a 46/34/24 with that same 11-36 rear. It works well too.
> I friction shift.  I’ve avoided 40 in back because it starts to get kind of
> heavy.  Even the 36 is noticeably heavier than the 34 or 32 that I run on
> other bikes.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Drivetrain Hack

[John McBurney]

Hi Joe

Any follow up on this?

John

On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 1:41 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Ooh, that's a thing I need to try. I just picked up a Clem H with the
> Microshift thumbies swapped so the front ratchety-friction works the rear
> derailer. I have an Advent group, I'm going to mount the cassette and
> derailer and I'll let y'all know how it goes.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Drivetrain Hack

[John McBurney]

Thank you!  The front rack is a custom that I bought with the frame. It’s
as deep as Marks rack or similar but wider. It’s as wide as the Acorn rando
box. It attaches to the fork by boxing out the brake. I decided to splurge
on Paul Centerpull centermount brakes and the normal ways these would have
been difficult at best.

Honestly if I don’t get decent life out of this cassette I’ll go 9 speed
11-40 index in order to try to get better steel. BTW the FD is an Ultegra.

I really like the narrow double as an alternative to a 1X or triple when
combined with the wider range cassette. BTW if you go with the 34-46 and
11-40 you’ll be right at the gear capacity of the XT 9 speed speed Shadow
RD (41 teeth)

There are higher tooth capacity RD. For example the Microshift Advent will
shift a 42 and has 47 tooth gear capacity. It also has a clutch. It is only
supposed to work with their shifters so friction shifting solves that.

John



On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 11:51 AM Pancake  wrote:

> What a great range with this setup! When my triple crankset is worn I'm
> hoping to replace it with a similar setup to yours (though in 2x9) with a
> Sugino or Silver double in front and probably with 34-46 because I'm a
> heavy fellow surrounded by mountains that need the easier gearing. I'll
> probably stick to a Shimano XT front deraileur too. But this was super
> helpful info, thanks a million!
>
> Separately: what is that front rack? I'm looking for an odd size (about
> 8"x8" +/- 1") platform top for under $100 to fit a one-off ILE "demi"
> porteur bag and that looks like a good fit. The only good options I've
> found are:
> Blackburn Bootlegger $60
> <https://www.backcountry.com/blackburn-bootlegger-front-rack#>
> SimWorks Obento $160
> <https://www.sim.works/products/obento-rack?variant=12537904791653>
>
> VERY handsome ride, only downside seems to be it's so well appointed and
> suited that maybe you won't need another bike after that!
>
> Abe
>
> On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 5:31:39 AM UTC-8, John McBurney wrote:
>>
>> I want to share my latest build with the group to show what I’ve done
>> with the drivetrain. When I was thinking about this I read as much as I
>> could in different forums, but at the end there was a certain amount of a
>> leap of faith involved. I want to share with this group as others may have
>> a similar inclination.
>>
>> First about the bike, it’s a custom Carver low trail rando Ti frame with
>> a Soma low trail caliper brake fork recently acquired from list member Luke
>> Heller.
>>
>> Now about the drivetrain, in summary it’s a wide range 2x8 with Dura Ace
>> 9 speed bar cons. The crankset is the heart of the system: Shimano CX 50.
>> This is a great sifting crank, 46/36. The smallest ring it can take is 34
>> with the 110 mm bcd. The rear derailleur is a 9 speed Shimano XT long cage.
>>
>> I wanted to run a lower than 1:1 low final drive. I found the new wide
>> range cassettes offered by manufacturers such as Sun Race, Box and
>> Microshift really interesting. I chose an 8 speed Sun Race 11-40. It is an
>> all steel unit. Nicer designs with alloy spiders start at 9 speed. I wanted
>> 8 speed in order to have non fiddly friction shifting. I heard that wear
>> may be an issue with the lower end 8 speed cassette and if that’s true I
>> may try to convert to 9 speed indexing, although that may mean sourcing a
>> long cage road derailleur.
>>
>> The RD will shift a 36 cog so in order to shit the 40 requires an
>> extension link which lowers the top jockey wheel. Wolf Tooth makes these
>> (Road Link and Goat Link) but so does Sunrace. I bought the Sunrace as it
>> is cheaper and I was more confident it would work with the Sunrace
>> cassette. The gear capacity of the RD is 41 teeth. With this setup the gear
>> range is 39 so no problem. Cross chain 46-40 causes rub on the foo of the
>> FD and of course should be avoided anyway. I haven’t found the lack of a
>> clutch to be an issue, but I did source a Microshift Advent clutch long
>> cage RD if I change my mind. The XT is much prettier IMO.
>>
>> The resultant gear range is below with a nice high of 113 and a low of 24
>> with nice steps in between.
>>
>> So far I’d say it works great! 8 speed is the sweet spot for friction.
>> I’ve had no problem with ghost shifts under power. There is excellent
>> tactile feedback when shifting.
>>
>> So in summary, this works extremely well. The parts are available an
>> affordable. Highly recommended!
>>
>>
>>
>> 113.688.9
>> 96.175.2
>> 83.365.2
>> 69.454.3
>> 56.844.5
>> 44.634.9
>> 

Re: [RBW] Re: Drivetrain Hack

[John McBurney]

What is the gear range on those long cage RD? There are a few on EBay but
they look more like mid cage designs to me.

John

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 9:13 AM Steve Palincsar  wrote:

> Taking this as a blanket statement, I am going to disagree with you.  For
> compatible Shimano rear derailleurs (i.e., excluding oddball situations
> like 1st gen Dura Ace 8) there is no difference in index shifting
> performance per se between road rear derailleurs and MTB rear
> derailleurs.   Of course, wide range rear derailleurs don't shift as well
> on narrow range cassettes as rear derailleurs optimized for narrow range,
> but that has nothing to do with the shifter.
> On 11/8/19 10:09 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> "Should with its dedicated road derailer" doesn't always mean "great with an 
> mtb derailer."
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Drivetrain Hack

[John McBurney]

Well don’t forget I augered into a sand pit and literally filled the right
brifter with sand. I think I did a really good job cleaning it out but you
can only so so much.

The DA bar cons are nice in friction. Gotta be careful standing though.  I
was hoping to use my Riv down tube shifters ( like sun tour superbe pro but
pull more cable) but the frame wasn’t set up for them.

I hope my “addiction to friction” will be able to continue and make all
this moot.

John

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 10:09 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> "Should with its dedicated road derailer" doesn't always mean "great with
> an mtb derailer."
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Re: [RBW] FS: Pearl Izumi "Barrier" winter cycling cap, 2019 fashion year

[John McBurney]

Hi

I have a big head but not quite as big as you. I have a really nice tweed
wool cap with cotton jersey fold down ear flaps by Double Darn in Portland.

https://www.doubledarn.com

It was custom made for me. Hounds tooth brown with tan bill. Too big for
me. Would consider a trade.

Tell me about the pearl cap.

John

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> My loss can be your gain. I bought last year's model, and it was the best
> of several nice caps I own. So this year I bought another, only to find,
> not only that they had changed the design -- the new design is fine -- but
> that they had reduced the "One Size" by about 30%, so that, whereas the
> 2018 fashion year model fits perfectly, this one is considerably too small.
>
> My head measures about 24" in circumference, measured just above jutting
> brow -- about 7 3/4; so take that into account when considering this.
>
> Worn very briefly 3 times indoors while cussing; never worn while cycling.
>
> Has wee reflective piping on the brim, and a little pony tail slot at back
> (I cut off my tail 3-4 years ago).
>
> Full retail is $35, plus tax or shipping. You can have it for $28 shipped,
> or in trade for a big winter hat that covers my ears, is dull in color, and
> whose design I approve of.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Drivetrain Hack

[John McBurney]

Good news!

Anyone with an opinionated experience  about the 8 speed 11-40 cassettes?

Are they durable?

John

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 4:51 PM Steve Palincsar  wrote:

>
> On 11/8/19 4:20 PM, John McBurney wrote:
> > Hi Joe,
> >
> > Thanks for your observation. In the many generations of this bike I
> > ran 105 9 speed brifters with this derailleur. It shifted “ok” but not
> > great. I was told that with the Shadow XT mech that the road and
> > mountain parted ways and weren’t compatible.
>
>
> You were misinformed if the Shadow XT was a 9-speed.   Road and MTB
> parted company with 10-speed MTB DynaSys.   In fact, the "standard
> solution" to getting lower gearing with a > 32T large sprocket during
> the entire 10 speed road era was 10 speed shifters, 9 speed MTB rear
> derailleur.  Many of my riding companions have the same setup with 10
> spd cassettes w/36T large sprockets.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Drivetrain Hack

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Hi Joe,

Thanks for your observation. In the many generations of this bike I ran 105
9 speed brifters with this derailleur. It shifted “ok” but not great. I was
told that with the Shadow XT mech that the road and mountain parted ways
and weren’t compatible. Of course I’d also used those on my cross race bike
and crashed in a sand pit filling the right side with sand. 

This will only be an issue if I can’t get 8 speed cassettes of good
quality.

I just did a 35 mile ride with 3000 feet climbing going over Paris
mountain. At several points along the 2 mile 1000 ft climb the grade is
well over 10% and at the finish it’s over 15%. Sitting and spinning at
80-90 rpm on those climbs is a revelation.

But when we go up we must also go down. The 113 gear inch 46-11 is pretty
fast and I rarely spun out descending.

John



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> Correctamundo, I've used that derailer with those 9-speed bar-ends. Easy
> peasy if you switch to a Shimano/SRAM 9 cassette.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycle Lights for Commuting

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These are great too!

https://www.flectr.bike


John

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 7:48 PM Jeffrey Arita  wrote:

> SON hub + Edelux II.
>
> SON hub + Sinewave Cycles Beacon.
>
> Another recommendation is to wear those ankle reflectors.  Good luck!
>
> Jeff
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> On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 9:48:18 PM UTC-8, DHans wrote:
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>> With the time change I will be biking home in the dark. I’m curious about
>> your light setup for riding in the dark. Also favorite light brands.
>> Thanks.
>> Doug
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycle Lights for Commuting

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I have a number of battery powered lights as well as dynamo light, the Bush
and Mueller IQ-x Senso. Love the beam and the brightness.

The slickest battery powered light I have is the Knog PWR which comes in a
variety of sizes and light outputs. The form factor and fact that it can
double as a battery bank to recharge a phone or other device sets it apart.

https://www.cycleexif.com/knog-pwr-review


https://cyclingtips.com/2017/08/knog-pwr-lights-review/

I also like Light and Motion urban line which comes in a variety of
strengths and are US Made.

This is an interesting model:

https://www.lightandmotion.com/shop/bike-lights/lights-for-urban-cycling/rando-500


For commuting the night rider 900 boost is nice because it is easy to get
on and off the bike.

https://www.niterider.com/product/6781-lumina-1200-boost/

But I never or almost never use high with my lights when commuting in urban
areas with street lights etc. 1200 or even 1000 lumens is over kill in my
opinion. But a high lumen light has a higher amp battery so more life on
lower settings.




John

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> I had an Edelux II which was excellent. However, I didn’t ride for an
> extended period in the dark to justify a dynamo hub. So now I just ride
> with a battery powered light, front and rear. I really like Lezyne. One I
> have is 1200 lumens. Other is 750 lumens. Both are about 4 years old and
> still holds charge well. I’d not hesitate to buy them again.
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB

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Hi Julian

I don’t suppose you have one do you?

John

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 9:13 PM John McBurney  wrote:

> Dark brown. Size flexible. I have a dark brown randoneur box and would
> like a match.
>
> John
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>> What size are you looking for? The dark brown or lighter brown (tan)?
>>
>>
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>> On Friday, November 1, 2019 at 6:47:41 PM UTC-5, John McBurney wrote:
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>>> Hi
>>>
>>> If anyone has a brown Acorn Saddlebag they aren’t using I’d like to get
>>> one.
>>>
>>> John
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB

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Dark brown. Size flexible. I have a dark brown randoneur box and would like
a match.

John



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>> Hi
>>
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>> one.
>>
>> John
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[RBW] WTB

[John McBurney]

Hi

If anyone has a brown Acorn Saddlebag they aren’t using I’d like to get
one.

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Budget Triple Crankset

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I don’t see that when I click on the link! That’s sneaky. A good way to get
bad feedback.

John

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 1:29 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> LOL. That eBay crankset has a starting bid of $30 plus $92 shipping!
> That’s one way to do it
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Budget Triple Crankset

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Campagnolo-Racing-T-9-Speed-Triple-Crankset-175mm-52-42-30/383237952701?hash=item593ac314bd:g:tQsAAOSwVc9dpNuV


On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 8:00 AM j.schwartz  wrote:

> Looking for a budget, used but useable triple crank for my upcoming Clem-L
> build... which will be a 3 speed with a Paul Melvin.
> Rings need to be a 20t spreadsomething like 44/34/24 would be ideal.
> I’m flexible on arm length (170-175)
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Re: [RBW] ISO: Olive Sackville Saddlesack (Medium or Large-ish)

[John McBurney]

Hi Reid,

I have an olive medium I could pass on to you. It’s in good used condition.
I also have the Nitto quick release if that interests you.

John
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On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 6:10 PM Reid Echols  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Thought I'd put a feeler out to see what folks have, or if you've shaken
> up your bike bag setup recently and want to pass on a Saddlesack. I think
> the "Happisack" is roughly the dimension I'm looking for. Olive would be
> nice to sort-of match the Swift Fabio's chest out front.
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> Thanks,
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 58 Carver titanium coupled $1200

[John McBurney]



On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 6:41 PM lukeheller  wrote:

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking Advice: Best Tires for Non-Ideal Rims

[John McBurney]

I run 48c compass/RH 650s on Synergy rims with tubes with sub 30 psi
without problems. Conversely I run 38 /700 tubeless on a Cliffhanger at 40
psi without any issues. I also run 38s with tubes on Magic CXP33’s which
seem narrow and it works great.

John

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 2:27 PM Mark Schneider  wrote:

> Jan Heine specifically says narrow rims are fine with his tires. So I'd
> imagine most reasonably supple tires would work fine. Like Patrick I rode
> mountain bike tires on old narrow rims for years. I have no specific
> recommendations your width will be a little less on the narrow rims than on
> the Cliffhangers for same tires but it's not a huge deal IMO.
>
> Mark
>
> On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-7, j.schwartz wrote:
>>
>> I am waiting for a new 59cm Clem-L to arrive and plan on building it up
>> as a pretty basic off-road bike.  Most of the parts are things that have
>> been floating around my bike bins for years.
>> The only new thing I'm planning on using is a Bosco 52cm alu bar I
>> purchased earlier this year but haven't really used.
>>
>> I just replaced my old touring wheelset that was on the Appa with a new
>> more modern and appropriate Cliffhanger wheelset
>>
>> So I have the older wheels which are:  36h Synergy Rims laced to Shimano
>> dyno (DH-3N72) in front and an XT hub in the back.  I've ridden these
>> Synergy rims for about 9 years and they show no signs of any issues around
>> the eyelets that others have reported.
>>
>> I'd like to use what I have but I want to maximize the tires for the
>> Clem.  I'm planning to use tubes (those rims aren't good candidates for
>> tubeless anyway)
>> Does anyone have any thoughts to how big I can go?
>>
>> Note these are 700's.
>>
>> I'd really like to mount 29x2.4's but these rims are 23mm wide with a
>> 19mm interior width.
>>
>> I did mount some non-tubeless Vittoria Mezcals in 29x2.1 size when they
>> were on the Appaloosa and they really didn't balloon at all.  Maybe they
>> could've been stretched out a little better by a wider rim, but they fit
>> and rode pretty well.
>> *Pics attached of that
>>
>> Has anyone successfully run some off roady, tubed, mountain tires on
>> those rims in about 2.35" and up ?
>>
>> Thanks
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Re: [RBW] For sale - Gilles Berthoud Arabesque saddle - black. Used on one ride

[John McBurney]

I have the Mente, which I think is the same shape only a slightly lower
price (discontinued) on my commuter. It’s a very nice saddle and I paid 150
for it so 100 for this saddle which slotted above the Mente is really a
remarkable deal. I was tempted but the Mente which differs mainly by way of
having rivets holding the cover on is pretty darned sweet itself.

John

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 10:11 PM Doug Bloch  wrote:

> That is a great deal. At 180mm this saddle is 5mm wider than the B17.
> Their widest model, in fact. Someone will be very happy with it.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

[John McBurney]

Does anyone have experience with Velocity Wheels? I was thinking about an
Atlas 700c set with a dynamo front and velocity rear hub. Do Velocity hubs
offer preload adjustment? They are listed as hand built. For $590 seems
like a good deal if they are well built.

John

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 6:13 AM Garth  wrote:

>
> James, which Bitex models are you referring to as almost all of their J
> bend rear hubs are available in a 135mm QR axle ?
> http://bitexhubs.com/htm/index.php
>
>
> Any experience with a Velocity ATB hub, the base cartridge bearing one ?
> https://www.velocityusa.com/product/hubs/atb-rear-hub  It seems like an
> alternative to the Shimano ones and from what I've seen Velocity offers
> very good warranty service.
>
>  I noticed on a new Deore rear hub some sag and lag of the chain as you
> mention, leading to some chain suck which I've never experienced on the
> Bombadil using Sachs freehweels.
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 2:57:04 AM UTC-4, James / Analog Cycles
> wrote:
>>
>> Bitex touring hubs are the best bang for the buck touring hub out there.
>> Big Enduro sealed bearings, rebuildable steel freehub, adjustable bearing
>> preload... About half the cost of White.  I don't know why anyone would
>> build a nice wheel without butted spokes.  Sapim force or race spokes go on
>> even our most budget oriented wheel builds.  After multiple mud seasons,
>> the bitex hubs we run on our personal bikes are still spinning smoothly.
>> Yearly tear downs reveal only the most minimal contamination.  The main
>> difference in 'ride quality' is going to be engagement and ease of
>> coasting.  Shimano FH bodies are not rebuildable, and have a relatively
>> short service life in my experience (19 years building wheels).  Coasting
>> with Shimano FH bodies is often sort of sticky, with the chain lagging and
>> sagging when you go rapidly from pedaling to coasting.  That, plus the slow
>> engagement, are all the 'ride quality' differences you are going to have
>> between a nicer hub and a Shimano.  Bitex hubs use 48t engagement with 6
>> pairs of pawls.  White by contrast, uses 3 pawls, no pairs.  The White hubs
>> are nice, and they look better.  That's the main draw, besides slightly
>> lower weight.
>>
>> Re:  Rim widths.  If you don't care about Tubeless, the Atlas rim is
>> fine, but get it with machined sidewalls for more consistent braking.
>> Really though, the Cliffhangers feel fine with 38mm tires even on really
>> rough terrain, and why run a tire smaller than that ever?  Plus you can run
>> tubeless, which for the desert, has gotta be helpful.
>>
>> For whatever it's worth, we stopped selling Atlas rims and Shimano hubs
>> about 3 years ago.  Bitex touring hubs are that much better, as are
>> cliffhangers.  A bit more scratch, but not a ton!
>>
>> -James / Analog Cycles / Wheel builder
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 9:20:43 AM UTC-4, Steve Cole wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm building up a new-to-me MIT Atlantis.  My best guess is that this is
>>> my final build short of deciding to have a custom frame built for me, which
>>> is unlikely.  As a result, I'm willing to spend somewhat more on components
>>> that I otherwise would.  I've been thinking about the wheels I want and
>>> would be grateful for advice.  Are Velocity rims and Deore hubs more than
>>> sufficient -- in other words would I notice any difference in the short- or
>>> longer-term if I use more upscale hubs such as Phil Wood, Chris King, White
>>> Industries or Shimano XTR?  For rims, I've been thinking about using
>>> Velocity Atlas as I'll be riding on and off-road in the desert southwest.
>>> Are there other rims I should consider?  Thanks for your input.
>>>
>>> Steve Cole
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Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

[John McBurney]

I run Cliffhangers tubeless with Compass 44 front and 38 rear. No problems.

Other options could include Pacenti Brevet for a traditional look and HED
Belgium.

John

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 10:23 AM Steve Cole  wrote:

> I considered Cliffhangers but Velocity specs them at 45-65 mm.  This seems
> to reduce my flexibility.  I was planning on using RH Snoqualmie Pass
> Endurance+ tires that are 44 mm.  If I wanted to go to a narrower tire, the
> Cliffhangers are not ideal.
>
> On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 9:48:04 AM UTC-4, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY
> wrote:
>>
>> For riding in the desert you might like the Cliffhanger for it's tubeless
>> option, I think the Atlas doesn't do tubeless? That's assuming you're not
>> going sub 40mm with your tires.
>> -Kai
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil

[John McBurney]

Garth

It’s not a bad idea. I do get more joy from giving things away than the
cash brings. In the past few months I’ve given my Scott Sub 10 belt drive
bike to a young couple and that makes me very happy.

However in this instance I need to raise some money to fund another bike
project without pissing my wife of 40 years off too much. I did offer it at
roughly half of what it has been valued here to a local friend but he was
unable to take advantage of the opportunity In this instance the joy will
come not from maximizing profit but rather in the knowledge that someone
who really loves these bikes will be able to enjoy it.

It truly is special and I know someone will be very happy with it.

John

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 2:01 PM Garth  wrote:

>
>
>   John, although the bike doesn't fit you, it doesn't sound like you
> really want to sell it, or at least go through "the process" of sale and
> all that may include.  Who says you have to sell it and for what cost , and
> what makes them some sort of authority over your own sense ?   Hell, you
> can do anything you want with it, sell it or give it away.  I've had many
> things that I once enjoyed, or thought I did, that I have even given away
> to people who had use for them.  Seeing or hearing the joy of someone using
> those "things" is priceless.  I'm not telling you to do anything or not,
> you already know exactly what that is.
>
>   Really it's not going to make any difference regardless of what you do
> with the bike.
>
>
> On Sunday, October 6, 2019 at 8:54:00 PM UTC-4, John McBurney wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I’m considering sellingBombadil. What do you think a reasonable price
>> would be?  It’s a Waterford frame, Joe Bell paint. Nitto, Sun XCD, SON,
>> Bush and Mueller,  Honjo, Brooks, Compass. Nicer than any 10 year old bike
>> has a right to be.
>>
>> It’s just too short for me and I’m not riding it.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Bombadil

[John McBurney]

Thank you

John

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:52 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> I’d ballpark the frame fork headset and bars at like $1600. To replicate
> the build you buyer would need to budget around $4500 but most buyers
> prefer to do their own thing. If you insist on selling it complete you’ll
> be in the $2600 to $3000 range I suspect.
>
> If it were me I would sell bags and racks separately to maximize my
> return.
>
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Re: [RBW] Bombadil 52 cm near mint

[John McBurney]

The TT is 22” center to Center

John

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 4:12 AM Garth  wrote:

>   Joe, the Bombadil frame specs are still included in the current Riv geo
> charts, at the bottom in gray.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 6, 2019 at 11:19:05 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Hey John, what's the toptube length? I know my Rivs pretty well, but I
>> confess I haven't a clue about Bombadil sizing.
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Re: [RBW] Bombadil 52 cm near mint

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Details include a Sun XCD crank with removable spider, 2 set ups. A
mountain double pictured with TA rings, and a second compact road double.

Sun XCD derailleurs Paul thumbies, dura ace bar cons, new 8 speed cassette
and chain. Paul Motolites and levers. Nitto bull moose painted  to match,
campy HS, Shimano XT square taper bb. Compass extralight 48 x 650b tires
minimal wear. SON front hub. Bush and Mueller IQ Tec Senso light and rear
light. Nitto S83 post, Brooks B67 honey.

John



On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 9:25 PM John McBurney  wrote:

> I would want to sell a complete build.
>
> I’ve built up a Rohloff Gates belt bike that covers the same riding
> spectrum as ol’ Tom but fits me better.
>
> I can provide a complete build description to anyone interested on
> request. It’s typical Riv. No corner cut but no money wasted.
>
> John
>
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 9:07 PM 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> John,
>> What size is it.  Supply and demand plays a huge factor.  Also a big
>> variable is full build or f/f/hs/bb etc.  if you are looking to replace
>> this bike with a larger frame of some kind the parts/build could be kept
>> and meet your needs better than whoever may be purchasing the full bike.
>> That said I have a Bombadil that I will never part with because it fits
>> me like a glove.  I biasedly believe it is one of the greatest most
>> beautiful bikes Grant and Rivendell ever produced.  It also is more
>> versatile than many believe.
>> Good luck with your sale.
>> Sincerely,
>> Ryan Hankinson
>> West Michigan
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Re: [RBW] Bombadil

[John McBurney]

I would want to sell a complete build.

I’ve built up a Rohloff Gates belt bike that covers the same riding
spectrum as ol’ Tom but fits me better.

I can provide a complete build description to anyone interested on request.
It’s typical Riv. No corner cut but no money wasted.

John

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> John,
> What size is it.  Supply and demand plays a huge factor.  Also a big
> variable is full build or f/f/hs/bb etc.  if you are looking to replace
> this bike with a larger frame of some kind the parts/build could be kept
> and meet your needs better than whoever may be purchasing the full bike.
> That said I have a Bombadil that I will never part with because it fits me
> like a glove.  I biasedly believe it is one of the greatest most beautiful
> bikes Grant and Rivendell ever produced.  It also is more versatile than
> many believe.
> Good luck with your sale.
> Sincerely,
> Ryan Hankinson
> West Michigan
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Re: [RBW] Bombadil

[John McBurney]

It’s a 52.

John

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> John,
> What size is it.  Supply and demand plays a huge factor.  Also a big
> variable is full build or f/f/hs/bb etc.  if you are looking to replace
> this bike with a larger frame of some kind the parts/build could be kept
> and meet your needs better than whoever may be purchasing the full bike.
> That said I have a Bombadil that I will never part with because it fits me
> like a glove.  I biasedly believe it is one of the greatest most beautiful
> bikes Grant and Rivendell ever produced.  It also is more versatile than
> many believe.
> Good luck with your sale.
> Sincerely,
> Ryan Hankinson
> West Michigan
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Re: [RBW] Smaller tires on Cliffhanger rims? Snoqualmie (44mm) or small as 38mm? Sam Hillborne 700c

[John McBurney]

I’m not sure on the stems  Mine have been fine.

I’m not sure about VO rims. Have you considered Pancentti or HED Belgium?

https://www.renehersecycles.com/product-category/components/rims/

John

On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 6:10 PM Pancake  wrote:

> Good tips John, thanks. I am leaning toward hand built wheelset, but now
> that I've seen these Velo Orange Voyager
> <https://velo-orange.com/products/voyager-rim> rims I'd a good reason to
> get anything different.
>
> Their size (38-60mm tires) is right between Velocity's Atlas (isn't
> tubeless compatible/ready, tires 25-45mm) and Cliffhanger (tubeless ready,
> tires 45-65mm) at a similar/lower price and similar/lower weight. And they
> are silver vs. the black Cliffhanger (though the polished version is nice,
> it's quite a bit more expensive and not well stocked).
>
> I think you convinced me that Sapim spokes are worth considering, though
> I've had great luck so far with 4 wheels built with DT Swiss 14/15/14
> double butted spokes (2.0-1.8-2.0mm). Rich Lesnik seems to use the DT
> double butted spokes and he sure knows what he's doing. I'll look at the
> Sapims again, though 2.3-2.0mm is super beefy for what I'm after. Good
> "Choosing Spokes Advice" link.
>
> I forgot about the Rene/Panaracer sealant
> <https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Q3VKMN1>, seems like a good match
> with the Rene/Panaracer tires. I noticed that Orange sealant seeps a bit of
> orange residue on tan sidewall tires and I'd rather avoid that if the
> performance of the sealants is about the same.
>
> I'm guessing that the tubeless stems are all about the same, just need the
> right length for the rim size, right?
>
> Abe
>
> On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 5:53:24 AM UTC-7, John McBurney wrote:
>>
>> Another thing to consider if your doing a custom build is to use Sapim
>> Strong spokes. Sapim uses the highest strength stainless alloy in the
>> Stongs - came as C X-ray bladed spokes while DT uses a lower grade steel in
>> heavier grade spokes. The combination of a heavier gauge high strength
>> spoke with a robust rim built by a good wheelbuilder produces a truly
>> robust wheel.
>>
>> https://dcrwheels.co.uk/custom-wheelsets/choosing-spokes-advice/
>>
>>
>> I’m not sure what kind of tape we used but I think it was Stan’s.  Valves
>> Stans I’m pretty sure.
>>
>> For sealant I used Stan’s but have purchased the new Panaracer sealant
>> that Compass sells. I’ll use this when these tires need to be replaced.
>>
>> https://www.renehersecycles.com/new-sealant-for-rene-herse-tires/
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:44 PM Pancake  wrote:
>>
>>> And with John’s answer we have a winner! Thanks John!
>>>
>>> Next: did you use the Velocity 21mm tape and valves?
>>> Which sealant did you use? Orange Endurance? Stan’s?
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Re: [RBW] Smaller tires on Cliffhanger rims? Snoqualmie (44mm) or small as 38mm? Sam Hillborne 700c

[John McBurney]

Another thing to consider if your doing a custom build is to use Sapim
Strong spokes. Sapim uses the highest strength stainless alloy in the
Stongs - came as C X-ray bladed spokes while DT uses a lower grade steel in
heavier grade spokes. The combination of a heavier gauge high strength
spoke with a robust rim built by a good wheelbuilder produces a truly
robust wheel.

https://dcrwheels.co.uk/custom-wheelsets/choosing-spokes-advice/


I’m not sure what kind of tape we used but I think it was Stan’s.  Valves
Stans I’m pretty sure.

For sealant I used Stan’s but have purchased the new Panaracer sealant that
Compass sells. I’ll use this when these tires need to be replaced.

https://www.renehersecycles.com/new-sealant-for-rene-herse-tires/


John

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> And with John’s answer we have a winner! Thanks John!
>
> Next: did you use the Velocity 21mm tape and valves?
> Which sealant did you use? Orange Endurance? Stan’s?
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Re: [RBW] Smaller tires on Cliffhanger rims? Snoqualmie (44mm) or small as 38mm? Sam Hillborne 700c

[John McBurney]

I run tubeless compass 38 rear and 42 front on cliffhangers with no problems

John

On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 9:59 AM Pancake  wrote:

> Taken with a grain of salt: another forum post says that Velocity told him
> 38mm was fine for the Cliffhanger -
>
>> I spoke to Velocity and they are confident that although the Cliffhanger
>> is designed to work with wider tires, they will work very well with the 38
>> width.
>> 
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 9:35:35 AM UTC-7, esoterica etc wrote:
>>
>>
>> Abe,
>>
>> Earlier this year, I had this very same question, albeit for 650b
>> Cliffhangers instead of your 700c ones. I was wanting to find out what
>> Velocity’s opinion was on running narrower tires outside of the “optimum
>> range”- specifically, from 43mm down to 38mm. I contacted them and here’s
>> their response:
>>
>> “Hello Mark,
>>
>>
>>
>> You might be ok with a 43mm, taking it down to 38 is probably too risky.
>> The skinnier you go, the greater the chance of a tire blow off.  Running
>> with tubes is more secure than without, but I can’t really say what the
>> limits are.  Some tires fit tighter than others so there is no hard and
>> fast rule.”
>>
>>
>> FWIW, I ended up getting a different, narrower wheelset in which 38-44mm
>> was in the “optimum range”.
>>
>>
>> ~Mark
>>
>> Raleigh, NC
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 27, 2019, at 11:54, Pancake  wrote:
>>
>> *Summary*: plan to switch to tubeless setup, but how small a tire is
>> safe / wise on a 700c Velocity Cliffhanger rim? Snoqualmie (44mm) should be
>> fine, but can I use even smaller tires if I want later?
>>
>> *Details: *
>> Cliffhangers are tubeless compatible, 25mm internal and 30mm external
>> width rims. Basically a wider, tubeless ready version of the Atlas rims I
>> have now.
>>
>> Velocity says  the
>> optimal tire width for Cliffhanger rims in 700c is 45mm - 65mm. I figure my
>> current Snoqualmie tires will work fine, but if I want to slap on fenders
>> someday I would need to use 40mm tires, maybe 38mm.
>>
>> Someone posted that they comfortably ran 40mm tires on Cliffhangers, they
>> even suggested it added to the "supple" feel of the ride. *Is 40mm as
>> low as you would consider for these rims, or would 38mm be reasonable? *
>>
>> Why tubeless? 6 flats in a month (around 250 miles) from glass and
>> goatheads plus a couple pinch flats. Twice got two flats on the same short
>> ride. Not something stuck in the tire, I found a new thorn or glass shard
>> every time (or the large cut from pinch flats). That pushed me over the
>> tubeless edge and I'm looking to buy a tubeless wheelset. I currently have
>> Atlas rims and Snoqualmie 44mm tires on my fenderless Sam Hillborne. 230
>> pound rider with mostly roads but plenty of random gravel and some slow
>> single track thrown in.
>>
>> Planning on XT hubs, DT Swiss double butted spokes, Cliffhanger rims,
>> brass DT nipples, (wheelset built for $375) and Snoqualmie Pass tires.
>> Eventually this wheelset could make it to my Cheviot if the versatile Sam
>> it switched around one day, but the Cheviot rides nicely now with Atlas
>> rims and a dynamo hub and Basketball tires as my daily commuter.
>>
>> Alternatively, I can get Cliffhanger rims, straight DT spokes, and Deore
>> hubs wheelset machine built for $255 shipped is someone wants to convince
>> me that the Deore hubs are good enough and the straight spokes are fine for
>> a $120 savings.
>>
>> Thanks for your suggestions and advice in advance,
>>
>> Abe in Napa with too many flats
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Re: [RBW] ideas for daytime visibility: vests and whatnot

[John McBurney]

In the bright daylight neon clothing is helpful. I have a very lightweight
Descent nylon neon wind vest made for runners that I wear during hot
weather. During fall and spring I like my Sugoi reflective and convertible
jacket-vest. It’s neon when it’s daylight, but covers your torso in
reflective dots when lights hit it in the dark. It’s too warm for hot
weather but since the sleeves attach with magnets it’s pretty versatile.
Waterproof but not for a long downpour.

My go to for winter all conditions is a Showers Pass Club Visible jacket
and Refuge Pants. Neon. waterproof. Wind proof. Lots of reflection.

One thing to consider is movement. Wheel light or good reflectors do this
in the dark.  I like Flektr wheel reflectors. I backed their indie go go
campaign last year and supported them again this year.

https://www.flectr.bike


John

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 2:37 PM Mark Roland 
wrote:

> I commute in a construction worker style safety vest bright yellow with
> big reflective silver stripes. Try to find one with a good zipper, not
> velcro closures. These come in a variety of weights, including mesh. Google
> construction safety vest and you'll get a million different options and
> price ranges.
>
> I also have a dayglow yellow  pants band, again with reflective silver.
> And I use the orange and yellow safety triangle. Also run a dyno headlight
> set up, and/or a Cygo-lite with a flashing daylight LED mode (I never use
> the flash mode at night.) I imagine I can tell a difference in the
> willingness of cars to pull out in front of me when I have the light versus
> when I don't.
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[RBW] Saddle and Related Sale

[John McBurney]

I have excess saddles that need new homes. Nothing wrong with em just going
in a different direction

Vintage Ideale Model 90. In really excellent vintage condition. Perfect for
a vintage touring bike. $125

Brooks Pro. New (one short ride). Brown, steel rivets chrome rails $60

Brooks B17 good used condition Brown, steel rivets,black rails.  $40

Salsa 27.2 mm seat post, dual bolt, black. $20

Nitto seat bag mount / quick release.   $75

If you are interested private message me and I’ll forward pictures.

All prices plus usps shipping.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Does anyone have any knobby tire suggestions for a 52 Clem H?

[John McBurney]

What about the compass knobby tires?

https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tires/700c/700c-x-42-hurricane-ridge-tc/


If you are worried about sidewall cuts get the endurance or endurance plus
casing.

John

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 10:51 AM masmojo  wrote:

> Well, I guess I'm late to the party, but I have a 52 Clementine so I'll
> throw this out there anywayz, for future reference.
> I've used a couple "knobby" tires on my Clementine. At first I tried some
> Kendas (2.3ish Slant six I think?), but while great offroad, they made the
> Clementine feel sluggish around town (a little heavy).
> Currently I run a 2.1 Kenda Knobby up front & a Schwalbe similar to the
> stock Kenda on the back. I really like this combination. Kenda's are good &
> cheap.
> A little more expensive,  but a really good choice is the Continental Race
> Kings (or Mountain Kings). I have these on my Ogre and they are great!
> Wide, not too heavy and they roll really good on pavement. When the current
> tires go, that's probably the direction I'll go.
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[RBW] Re: FS 58 Carver titanium coupled $1200

[John McBurney]

On Monday, September 9, 2019 at 11:18:34 AM UTC-4, lukeheller wrote:
> FS 58.7cm ETT Carver titanium coupled fr/frk/hs/rack/brakes/seat collar. 
> Stem/bars/der not included. $1200. Replaced brake pads and headset right 
> before PBP. Fits 700x35 + fenders. Low trail geo, no shimmy!! Matching Soma 
> Champs-Élysées fork and rack. 68mm threaded BB. Internal rear light wiring, 
> can exit @ dropout if using outboard bearings. Takes 27.2 seatpost. 71.5 STA. 
> This frame is designed for long, comfortable days in the saddle. I've ridden 
> 4 grand brevets on it. Bars level with saddle? NO PROBLEM. Located in 
> Asheville, NC
> 
> 
> 
> pics:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/XKKsBiEvTEaY7Qqv7

I’m interested but not able to buy right now. Keep me in
Mind if you don’t have a quick sale. I’m just down in Greenville SC. 

Sorry if there have multiple messages. I really hate google groups on iPhone. 

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Re: [RBW] FS 58 Carver titanium coupled $1200

[John McBurney]

Very, very nice. Why are you selling?

John

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 11:18 AM lukeheller  wrote:

>
> FS 58.7cm ETT Carver titanium coupled fr/frk/hs/rack/brakes/seat collar.
> Stem/bars/der not included. $1200. Replaced brake pads and headset right
> before PBP. Fits 700x35 + fenders. Low trail geo, no shimmy!! Matching Soma
> Champs-Élysées fork and rack. 68mm threaded BB. Internal rear light wiring,
> can exit @ dropout if using outboard bearings. Takes 27.2 seatpost. 71.5
> STA. This frame is designed for long, comfortable days in the saddle. I've
> ridden 4 grand brevets on it. Bars level with saddle? NO PROBLEM. Located
> in Asheville, NC
>
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Re: [RBW] Identity Crisis Sale: Nitto, Sackville and more

[John McBurney]

Hah. Not surprised

On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 7:22 PM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> Hi John, I’m sorry but the bags have sold.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 6, 2019, at 4:18 PM, John McBurney  wrote:
>
> I would like the Bikeabike bags.
>
> John
>
> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 2:26 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello, Friends!
>>
>> Since acquiring a Clementine, I’ve been moving and swapping bags and
>> racks and bars and having an identity crisis as I navigate having two
>> bikes. It turns out that I can’t seem to leave well enough alone, so I’m
>> changing my bikes around. It also turns out that I find it stressful to
>> have parts and gear unloved and unused. Rivendell makes fabulous things and
>> they ought to be used, so I’m selling them to you. I have been making new
>> (read: expensive) orders to Rivendell, so they will also benefit.
>>
>> Here is the line up. Photos at the end.
>>
>> 1. Backabike bags, 1st generation. These are the best bags Rivendell
>> makes, I don’t care what you say about the Saddlesacks! They are not fussy
>> and are dead useful. Groceries, school bags, violins, small fluffy dogs -
>> they’ve hauled it all. Backabikes are absurdly expensive but worth every
>> red cent, and here’s a pair for you at nearly half-price. This version
>> attaches to the rack via John’s Irish straps, which I’m including for you.
>> I really like this system and find it preferable to the new leather strap
>> and buckles because a thief won’t be taking these. The newer version has a
>> stiffener in the back and therefore seems to carry less than these (I have
>> both versions and that’s my assessment). The bags are structurally perfect
>> and clean inside, but they show dirt on the outsides - you don’t have to be
>> precious about these bags! $75, each, plus shipping.
>>
>> 2. Surly 24 Pack Rack. These sat on the sadly underused 52 Clem H in our
>> garage. Dumped for an e-bike, can you believe it? A really cool rack, but
>> no one is riding that big ‘ol Clem until my 13 year old hits a growth spurt
>> and gets it. And when he does, he will refuse a front load. Someone will
>> love this rack! $150 new, but yours for $110, shipped.
>>
>> 3. Two-Fish bottle cage. When Baby Bear was really little, his bike
>> didn’t have bottle cage mounts. I decided to use this, but it didn’t fit
>> around the downtube. I put it on the bars and then realized that could be
>> disastrous for his face in a crash. Therefore, it was never used! Yours for
>> $10, and we’ll see about shipping.
>>
>> 4. Bosco Bullmoose Bars. Nearly mint as they were on my MIL’s 52
>> Clementine (which I now have) and she did not put many miles on her bike.
>> They are Cro-mo, that I know, but unsure of the size. Either 52 or 55 -
>> whichever Rivendell sent out with their first run of Clems. I love a Bosco
>> bar, but I like them to sit a little higher so I got a Bosco with a stem.
>> This sturdier version can go on your bike instead! $85, plus shipping. I’ve
>> gotta find a box big enough!
>>
>> PM me for the items you can’t live without.
>> Two-Bike Leah
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Re: [RBW] Identity Crisis Sale: Nitto, Sackville and more

[John McBurney]

I would like the Bikeabike bags.

John

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 2:26 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
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> Hello, Friends!
>
> Since acquiring a Clementine, I’ve been moving and swapping bags and racks
> and bars and having an identity crisis as I navigate having two bikes. It
> turns out that I can’t seem to leave well enough alone, so I’m changing my
> bikes around. It also turns out that I find it stressful to have parts and
> gear unloved and unused. Rivendell makes fabulous things and they ought to
> be used, so I’m selling them to you. I have been making new (read:
> expensive) orders to Rivendell, so they will also benefit.
>
> Here is the line up. Photos at the end.
>
> 1. Backabike bags, 1st generation. These are the best bags Rivendell
> makes, I don’t care what you say about the Saddlesacks! They are not fussy
> and are dead useful. Groceries, school bags, violins, small fluffy dogs -
> they’ve hauled it all. Backabikes are absurdly expensive but worth every
> red cent, and here’s a pair for you at nearly half-price. This version
> attaches to the rack via John’s Irish straps, which I’m including for you.
> I really like this system and find it preferable to the new leather strap
> and buckles because a thief won’t be taking these. The newer version has a
> stiffener in the back and therefore seems to carry less than these (I have
> both versions and that’s my assessment). The bags are structurally perfect
> and clean inside, but they show dirt on the outsides - you don’t have to be
> precious about these bags! $75, each, plus shipping.
>
> 2. Surly 24 Pack Rack. These sat on the sadly underused 52 Clem H in our
> garage. Dumped for an e-bike, can you believe it? A really cool rack, but
> no one is riding that big ‘ol Clem until my 13 year old hits a growth spurt
> and gets it. And when he does, he will refuse a front load. Someone will
> love this rack! $150 new, but yours for $110, shipped.
>
> 3. Two-Fish bottle cage. When Baby Bear was really little, his bike didn’t
> have bottle cage mounts. I decided to use this, but it didn’t fit around
> the downtube. I put it on the bars and then realized that could be
> disastrous for his face in a crash. Therefore, it was never used! Yours for
> $10, and we’ll see about shipping.
>
> 4. Bosco Bullmoose Bars. Nearly mint as they were on my MIL’s 52
> Clementine (which I now have) and she did not put many miles on her bike.
> They are Cro-mo, that I know, but unsure of the size. Either 52 or 55 -
> whichever Rivendell sent out with their first run of Clems. I love a Bosco
> bar, but I like them to sit a little higher so I got a Bosco with a stem.
> This sturdier version can go on your bike instead! $85, plus shipping. I’ve
> gotta find a box big enough!
>
> PM me for the items you can’t live without.
> Two-Bike Leah
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Re: [RBW] WTB: 60cm Rambouillet

[John McBurney]

Yes. I looked at each of my bikes tonight. Each gave me intense joy.


On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 9:18 PM John W  wrote:

> Anyone who is Marie Kondo’ing their bikes, by chance?
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTT: Brooks B67 for B17 or Cambium

[John McBurney]

I have a b17 in brown. Used lightly. Also a brand new brown Professional
with steel rivets.

John

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:47 AM Justin Schoop 
wrote:

> Sure, send a few pics. Thanks
>
> On Jul 25, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Robert Hakim 
> wrote:
>
> John,
>
> I have a black B17 narrow I'd be happy to trade. Let me know if that
> interests you and I can send pictures.
>
> Cheers,
> Robert Hakim
> SLC, UT
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Re: [RBW] PSA: S Coupled Rambouillet on Craiglist $1000, Montana

[John McBurney]

Sorry it didn’t work out. Such a nice bike. I really love that lugged Steel
Nitto stem.

John

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 5:08 PM Karl  wrote:

> Good job! If it doesn’t work out, I’d love first right! And yes! Better
> pictures!!
>
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> Nashville, TN
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Re: [RBW] PSA: S Coupled Rambouillet on Craiglist $1000, Montana

[John McBurney]

Karl

There is a guy in Missoula who is moving to Greenville SC next week. If you
want to to get the bike and have it delivered to Greenville LMK.

John

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 7:37 AM Karl  wrote:

> Thanks Robert! May be worth the scenic drive!!
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Re: [RBW] For Sale. Early Rivendell

[John McBurney]

Really beautiful bike. I hope you find it a good home. So sorry you find
you aren’t able to use it I’m 73” or I’d be tempted.

John

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 2:13 PM Norman Michaels 
wrote:

> Unfortunately, I've aged out of riding my Rivendell. I loved it and would
> like to see it go to an appreciative new owner, not just someone on ebay or
> Craigslist.
> My Riv is an original custom frame from 2000. It was built by the frame
> builder and painter that at the time Grant said were the best. The detaild
> lugs are just beautiful.
> I used it for group rides and never put a rack or bags on it but the front
> and rear dropouts do have eyelets to put one on.
> I have all the original specs of Grant's design. It was built with a pubic
> bone height of 80.6 cm. I'm 5'7" and it should fit someone an inch or two
> taller or shorter.
> I fitted it out with a Campy gruppo.
>
> It's in excellent shape except for a scratch on the top tube, seen in one
> of the pics.
>
> Will at Rivendell told me he thinks it's worth $1,700 but would be fair to
> settle at $1,500, so that's the asking price.
>
> Photos attached. More pics and info available.
>
> Thanks,
> Norman
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Re: [RBW] Re: Leather Saddle Care

[John McBurney]

Thanks

On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 9:28 PM Fullylugged 
wrote:

> Cabinet makers wax with beeswax and lanolin has worked for me.
>
>
> On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 7:37:21 PM UTC-5, John McBurney wrote:
>>
>> I have several leather saddles on various bikes. For example I have a
>> vintage brooks B17 Pro, and a vintage a Ideale model 90. I try to take
>> really good care of them. I have covers for rain and I use Obenaufs LP. As
>> well as occasional Proofhide or Martexin Wax. These are older saddles. No
>> idea how old the brooks is but suspect the Ideale is over 40.
>>
>> So even though they never get rained on this time of year the get really
>> wet from sweat from my shorts on long hot rides. I’m noticing it’s harder
>> to maintain the integrity of the surface of the saddle, the shiny outer
>> layer. These are really becoming well adapted to my anatomy but I don’t
>> want to ruin them.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> John
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[RBW] Leather Saddle Care

[John McBurney]

I have several leather saddles on various bikes. For example I have a
vintage brooks B17 Pro, and a vintage a Ideale model 90. I try to take
really good care of them. I have covers for rain and I use Obenaufs LP. As
well as occasional Proofhide or Martexin Wax. These are older saddles. No
idea how old the brooks is but suspect the Ideale is over 40.

So even though they never get rained on this time of year the get really
wet from sweat from my shorts on long hot rides. I’m noticing it’s harder
to maintain the integrity of the surface of the saddle, the shiny outer
layer. These are really becoming well adapted to my anatomy but I don’t
want to ruin them.

Any ideas?

John

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Re: [RBW] Does anyone have any knobby tire suggestions for a 52 Clem H?

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I don’t know if they are available since he recently passed, but what about
Bruce Gordon Rock ‘n Roads?

John

On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 3:01 PM Matthew Naftis  wrote:

> I'm travelling to Colorado in a couple of weeks, and think I may need
> something more than the stock Kendas that have, so far, been perfectly
> suitable for paved and gravel bike paths of Dallas.
>
> But maybe I'm wrong?  Although I've ridden bikes my whole life, putting
> much thought into what and how I'm riding is a fairly new thing for me.
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Re: [RBW] Is this Compass tire usable?

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I’m not a tire expert but I do have Compass tires on 4 bikes and run 28 c
tubies  on the fifth. If it was me I doubt I’d run it. But let me say that
I had a very similar tire destruction running Marathon Supremes commuting
through the SE warehouse district in Portland. It lead me to adopt really
stiff and slow tires like the Marathon Plus. I was shocked when I took them
off just how heavy they are. And crazy stiff.

I’d just replace it and hope for better luck. Run a boot and tube till
then.

John



On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 6:41 PM Ash  wrote:

> Tire experts,
>
> I mounted Compass Babayshoe Pass (EL) tires tubeless couple of months ago
> on my Rivfied road bike.  They were a joy to ride for sure.  Unlike
> anything!!
>
> Sadly, yesterday the rear tire deflated suddenly within a second while
> riding in my neighborhood.  Probably would have crashed if not for the slow
> speed.  The tire had a tear that was way beyond what the sealant could
> handle.  Boy, were these tires an expensive experiment!
>
> I have attached a few macro shots of the damage area.  Is this tire safe
> to ride if I use it with inner tube?  Also, is there way to fix the tear?
> Some kind of adhesive or patch from inside?  Is there such a thing?
>
> Funny how 'no going back' situation turned into 'can't wait to go back' :)
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: NEW Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL2 Tent + Titanium Stakes

[John McBurney]

I am tempted but have a nice Fly Creek

This is a really nice tent. Somebody should jump on this. Does it include
the footprint?

John

On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 11:02 AM Jack K  wrote:

> Last call on the new Big Agnes Copper Spur *+ titanium stake package*
> before it heads to eBay. Now $350 + $15 shipping. That's considerably less
> than I paid for the tent alone and I got a pretty good deal on it.
>
> -J
> Nclude
> On Saturday, June 8, 2019 at 4:14:22 PM UTC-4, Jack K wrote:
>>
>> Hey Riv-folk,
>>
>> After extensive research I bought this latest gen Big Agnes Copper Spur
>> HV UL2 tent last year for use backpacking & bike touring with 1 or 2
>> people. Last winter I found a good deal on a slightly used "Mountain Glow"
>> version of this same tent, which has tiny LED's sewn into the roof seams.
>> So, this new Copper Spur is for sale having never even been set up outside
>> (I did assemble it in my living room when I first got it to check it out).
>> The Copper Spur wins many backpacking "best ultralight tent" shootouts, for
>> whatever that's worth, and Big Agnes design & quality are tough to beat.
>> Features a trail weight of 2lbs 12oz (nearly 1/2 the weight of my previous
>> backpacking tent), 29 ft^2 of floor space, and two doors, each with a 9
>> ft^2 vestibule.
>>
>> Link to REI page with full features and spec's:
>> https://www.rei.com/product/110209/big-agnes-copper-spur-hv-ul-2-tent?CAWELAID=120217890003896384=pla=15724358560=aud-363396065244:pla-302756173628_mmc=PLA_Google|404_57767|1102090002|none|0207fe7c-3f60-4840-a9c5-e1c92f635344|aud-363396065244:pla-302756173628=cm_mmc:PLA_Google_LIA|404_57767|1102090002|none|0207fe7c-3f60-4840-a9c5-e1c92f635344=0207fe7c-3f60-4840-a9c5-e1c92f635344=CKfR45bE2uICFZiFswodB10Dsg
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>> Link to balanced 2019 review of the Copper Spur (tent in the review is
>> the same orange/gray color scheme as the tent on offer here):
>> https://www.switchbacktravel.com/reviews/big-agnes-copper-spur-hv-ul2
>>
>> Note: I replaced the 8 aluminum stakes that Big Agnes supplies with 10
>> new titanium stakes. The 10 Ti stakes are only slightly lighter than the 8
>> aluminum stakes, but should be much more durable and easier to get in the
>> ground due to being less bulky. The "nail" style stakes are essential for
>> rocky ground and with 4 stakes the tent can be set up with the rainfly
>> fully staked out. Photo of Ti stake package attached.
>>
>> Cheapest price currently for this tent new on eBay is $375 shipped.
>> Will sell new tent + BA 8 original aluminum stakes (pushed in the ground
>> once testing setup of my Mountain Glow tent) for $355 shipped (in the
>> ConUS).
>> Substitute never used custom Ti 10 stake package for the Al stakes for
>> $25 additional ($380 shipped).
>>
>> Cheers & safe riding,
>>
>> -Jack K.
>> Raleigh, NC
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: MIT Atlantis 53cm

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It’s an amazing build. I know a young woman with a 78 PBH who left teaching
after a really bad experience and now works at the local non profit bike
shop who it would be perfect for but it’s way outside her price range.

John
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> Thanks Jonathan. Yes, it's an unbelievable drag that I can't ride it, I
> invested serious cash to get such a nice build on a Riv I've always
> admired. But whaddyagonnado?
>
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>> Is anyone running a 53 with drops who has a 85 PBH?  ISorry Joe that you
>> have to sell.  I know you loved this bike.
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Re: [RBW] Ergon grips/ map, waive, Jones bars

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I have Jones HBar on a Soma Wolverine that I commute on. I too had wrist
pain when the bar was taped and have put Ergon grips on with excellent
results.

John

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 10:41 PM Drw  wrote:

> I have a set of Jones copied soma bars on my bubbe (Jones was out of
> stock). They are similar to the wavie and map/ahearne bars. The latter I
> had on a different bike and loved.
> I can’t ride the bubbe even on short rides without wrist pain though.
> I’ve recently put Ergon grips on my brompton and they’ve been surprisingly
> revelatory, so I’m wondering if anyone uses them on a wavie shaped bar.
> Also, If so, did it solve any problems for you?
> The subtext of this is that my bubbe has a threadless crust cargo fork on
> it, so raising and lowering the bars is not as easy as with a quill. It
> does have a relatively short and up-jutting stem on it though, set at
> saddle height roughly.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Newbaum's now offers wider, more padded tape

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Ergon makes a variety of fine grips IMHO.

John

On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:17 PM John Phillips  wrote:

> Has anyone tried this new cushioned Newbaum's yet?
>
> I'm looking for something to replace my cork grips: something more easily
> replaced/renewed and about the same diameter.
>
> Thanx,
>
> John
>
> On Monday, April 1, 2019 at 2:54:33 PM UTC-7, tc wrote:
>>
>> In addition to their standard tape, see this page
>> 
>> for info on their new tape.
>>
>> Tom
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Re: [RBW] FS - 62cm Breadwinner Continental Complete Bike

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I sent it out to a lanky friend here in Greenville. Beautiful bike and
great deal!
John

On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 7:44 PM John G.  wrote:

> I bought a Weigle posted on this list. I don’t see how this is different.
> I think it’s fine to post it here.
>
> That’s a beautiful bike in my size at a great deal, but overlaps with my
> Roadeo. You may also want to post it to iBOB, where it should get some
> nibbles.
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Re: [RBW] Coffee Grinder Question

[John McBurney]

Yeah it’s a Zen practice. Just breathe.

John

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 1:12 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> To All:
>
> I was inspired by the recent discussion of hand-cranked coffee mills to
> purchase a Mueller Austrian grinder:
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076BZYSGF/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8=1
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>
> I like it, except that it takes *forever* to grind a small amount of
> coffee—4 to 5 minutes to make enough grounds for one cup in my Aeropress.
>
> Is this consistent with everyone’s experience with grinders like this, or
> am I doing something wrong?
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> --Eric Norris
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Re: [RBW] Paul motolite reviews?

[John McBurney]

I’ve got motolites on my Bombadil and they are great. On my 650b bike with
Paul levers they are very strong and modulate well. They are very
adjustable including toe in. Because of the range of adjustment you can use
them on a variety wheels and bikes. It might be possible to run both 650b
and 700c wheels on some frames with this rim brake but please confirm that.

Plus they exude hand made quality.

My 2 cents

John

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> Thinking about upgrading to the Paul motolite brakes but would love to
> hear opinions of them. Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] FS 62cm Hunqapillar ff $1300

[John McBurney]

I’m not in the market for a bike but I am curious about the fenders. Is
this a 700c bike?

John

On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 11:31 PM Kurt Manley  wrote:

> Hey Rivsters,
>
> I guess this is a bit of a feeler post as it's a little contingent on
> another bike I'd like to buy but I'm offering up my 62cm Hunqapillar
> frame/fork hs for $1300 shipped.
>
> This bike is awesome. It's taken me to many far off lands and has plenty
> of beusage to prove it but it still looks good and rides even better.
> Notable flaws are, chain suck, lots of it, scuffs and scratches of the
> normal variety, a paint chip on the middle downtube about the size of a
> pencil diameter. No dents, rust, cracks, or other structural flaws, just
> cosmetic stuff.
>
> Basically I'm testing waters to see if I've got anyone seriously
> interested before I commit to buying another Riv. If you're interested drop
> me a line and I can take and send you some proper photos. I'm in Oakland,
> CA for a local inspection.
>
> A photo from today's ride is attached...
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Re: [RBW] Re: SE Rivendell 25th Anniversary Celebration May 3/4/5 Greenville SC

[John McBurney]

Hi

Well meet at Swamp Rabbit Cafe at 4 pm. Where are you staying?

John

503-433-5136

On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 12:11 AM lconley  wrote:

> I am in Greenville with my Sam H. What time Friday does the ride start?
>
> Laing
> Cocoa FL
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Re: [RBW] Re: SE Rivendell 25th Anniversary Celebration May 3/4/5 Greenville SC

[John McBurney]



On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 9:41 PM George Rosselle  wrote:

> Well my tires are pumped up, the chain is lubed and the camper is loaded.
>
> Good lord willin' and the creek don't rise I'll see y'all tomorrow
> afternoon.
>
> Happy trails.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 7, 2019 at 6:01:55 PM UTC-5, George Rosselle wrote:
>>
>> You can see the cancellation policy on their website, but if you will
>> lose some if you cancel, or all if you cancel within a couple days of
>> arrival. It is $59.40 total for two nights and there is a two night
>> minimum. You might roll the dice and come in without a reservation, I don't
>> know the history of this park, but there are not that many campsites.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 7, 2019 at 1:35:52 PM UTC-5, John McBurney wrote:
>>>
>>> I would make a reservation if I were you. I don’t know what the
>>> cancellation policy is, but even if there is no cancellation policy it
>>> would be dramatically cheaper than a downtown hotel which can run $300-400
>>> / night for peak weekends. Hey it’s known as G’vegas for a reason.
>>>
>>> A lot of stuff starts happening in Greenville in
>>> May - weddings, college and university graduations and also the
>>> 3rd/4th/5th is “Fashion Week” so if you can’t get in at PM you might have a
>>> hard time finding a room.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 1:27 PM esoterica etc 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I’m planning on going and most likely camping at Paris Mountain, but
>>>> there’s a slight chance I may have to cancel at the last minute. Are
>>>> reservations suggested/recommended, or would I be ok just showing up that
>>>> day? Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> ~Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 7, 2019, at 13:08, John McBurney  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 9:22 AM George Rosselle 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just made my campground reservation at Paris Mountain State Park. I
>>>>> look forward to meeting everyone and the rides. See y'all there. I will be
>>>>> riding a green Rosco Bubbe.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 8:06:17 PM UTC-5, John McBurney
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry the date doesn’t work out for you but let’s go ride soon!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 7:17 PM Pam Bikes 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Great event!  I'm not sure I can commit since I have so much going
>>>>>>> on in Charlotte.  This will be the start of our BikeCharlotte event and
>>>>>>> I'll be introducing Bike Benefits Bingo, Tour de Sabor, and more events.
>>>>>>> If anyone is nearby, let me know.  Thank you for planning this.  I'd 
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> to do something when I'm not so busy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 7:46:47 PM UTC-5, mcbu...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Todd Ripley and I are really excited to propose a full weekend of
>>>>>>>> rides and opportunistic for socialization.
>>>>>>>> Here are our thoughts
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fri May 3rd afternoon ramble up the Swamp Rabbit Trail to Travelers
>>>>>>>> Rest for a BBQ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sat May 4th 930 am meet at Swamp Rabbit Cafe for breakfast. Main
>>>>>>>> ride 30-40 miles with easy and harder option.
>>>>>>>> Lunch at Birds Fly South Ale Project and White Duck Tacos
>>>>>>>> Optional afternoon loop through Falls Park and Cleveland Park
>>>>>>>> 630 pm Dinner and social event at Velo Fellow gastro pub downtown
>>>>>>>> Greenville
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sunday May 5th optional ride to Lake Conestee Nature Preserve.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
&g

Re: [RBW] 60 Cheviot complete

[John McBurney]

Very nice.

Tempted but...

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 7:28 PM scott minor  wrote:

> It pains me to part with this bike but I  must as I am moving countries in
> a couple months and only have room to keep one bike.
>
> I bought the Chev frame/fork new from Riv in ‘17, Rich built the wheelset
> w a Shutter Precision generator hub in front, Deore rear.  The rest of the
> bits I either had already or added as the setup evolved.  It has Billie
> bars with a Simworks stem that’s nice and sturdy.  IRD Stem-mounted Silver
> shifters (friction) and Diacompe brakes.   Tires are Soma Supple Vitesse
> 700x48, super plush and fast!  The Tektro sidepulls that were originally on
> the bike didn’t leave much room for clearance with these tires so I put on
> some long reach Diacompe center pulls from Riv, used the plastic inserts
> that let you run nutted brakes on a recessed frame, and they have worked
> out great!  They stop well, don’t squeal, and have lots of clearance.
> Drivetrain is standard Sugino triple crankset from Riv, IRD Alpina front
> derailleur, and Sun XCD rear.  11-32 9 speed.
>
> Items pictured but NOT included in sale are the following:  B17 saddle,
> saddle bag, water bottle cage.
>
> Aside from those things the bike comes complete as pictured here
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/147564748@N06/sets/72157708354122994
>
> Asking $1625 + shipping via bikeflights
>
> Located in Knoxville TN, pickup welcome.
>
> Thanks!  -Scott
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Re: [RBW] Plus Tires for GBW

[John McBurney]

I didn’t see the follow up post where you said 27.7 which is obviously
27.5.

I struggle with the same question. I have a 650b/27.5 Bombadil running
Compass extralight Switchback Hill 48s which I absolutely love. These tires
are magic. I will not comment on flats due to a superstitious nature.

These are the biggest 650b tires Compass/Rene Herse offers. However they
now offer a knobby version of this tire.

Even more interestingly they recently introduced a 55x700 tire, the
antelope hill. I can’t imagine a larger 650b tire is far behind. It might
be worth an email or call.

All that said, what is in my quiver for this summer and fall mixed surface
adventures on my Bombadil are Bruce Gordon Rock n Road 43 ( with fenders)
and perhaps more interesting to you Panaracer Pacentti Quasimoto 27.5 x 2
(no fenders)  I have these on the shelf ready to mount but have not ridden
them.


John


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> Ahhh. I typed 27.7+, but that should be 27.5+, or 650b.
>
> With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Plus Tires for GBW

[John McBurney]

That’s right

John

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 5:40 PM ted  wrote:

> I believe John is asking if your GBW has 650b (aka 27.5) wheels or 700c
> (aka 29er) wheels.
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 1:33:27 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> John asked "700c?"
>>
>> What are you asking, John?
>>
>> With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Plus Tires for GBW

[John McBurney]

700c?

On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 8:04 PM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> Post options for plus tires for Gus Boots Willsen here. Keep in mind the
> stated max from Riv is 2.8”.
>
> Maxxis (I think Riv. went with the Ikon Plus for at least the L prototype):
> https://www.maxxis.com/tires/bicycle/mountain?typeId=135=all
>
> Schwalbe (filter by tire size to get the plus tires. Nobby Nic looks like
> a main option) :
> https://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/off-road_tires
>
> Teravail (has a light casing option that looks intriguing for plush tire
> aficionados):
> https://www.teravail.com/
>
> Continental:
> https://www.continental-tires.com/bicycle
>
> Vee:
> https://www.veetireco.com/
>
> Preferences and recommendations from those with plus/fat tire experience?
> Other options I’ve missed?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Re: Singletracking/Offroading with Dynamo Lights and Hubs

[John McBurney]

If I’m in a situation where I think I might need a
More light for a period of time during a bike packing adventure I might be
tempted to carry one of my many battery lights to use as a supplement.

I do find the beam pattern of the IQ-X to be compelling though. The very
worst night ride I ever experienced was in a 24 hour mountain bike race
near Olympia WA (The 24 Hours of Capitol Punishment) when about 1 am a
thick fog rolled in off of the Puget Sound. In that stuff a head light was
just blinding and totally counterproductive. The best option was to run the
light on the bike (mounted on handlebars) at low. But I also realized that
light scatter bothered me and reduced my dark adaptation even when it
wasn’t foggy. When I rode the IQ-X in the dark for the first I was amazed
at the difference the light pattern made. My dark adaptation was better
preserved and I am much more comfortable with my peripheral vision

John

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 12:01 PM Chris Corral 
wrote:

> I've always preferred Shutter Precision for my hubs. I rode Colorado Trail
> and Baja Divide with B IQ-X and honestly it was a great light. Perfect on
> road, good enough on the trail. I have since upgraded to a Sinewave, which
> is crazy bright. In theory, it can be run off of an external battery, like
> a flashlight, eliminating the low-light-while-climbing issue. I haven't
> used this feature yet because it doesn't bother me much but it can be
> annoying to stop and not have any light. I am also put off by the
> flickering during technical descents that is caused (I think) by the front
> wheel stopping momentarily. This is during jumps or really loose gravel
> where the front wheel may lock up a teeny bit. Otherwise, plenty of light.
> It is great.
>
> All said, I would love to compare the KLight and Sinewave. Having ridden
> both, they are both excellent lights. The Sinewave has more features (built
> in charging, etc).
>
> I don't know how much of a difference a hub would make. I have also used
> Shimano dynamo hubs and they're heavier, clunkier, louder. I don't honestly
> *feel* a difference in loss of power when riding though. just my 2 cents
>
>
> On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 3:33:45 PM UTC-7, Collin A wrote:
>>
>> Given some discussion in another thread about dynamo lighting use on
>> unpaved surfaces, I figured it would be worth bringing this up as a
>> separate thread.
>>
>> Personally, I have a kasai Dynacoil hub (evolution of a SP hub, I
>> believe) laced to an Alex Dm24 rim and wired with a K-lite bikepacker light
>> (gravel version) https://www.kliteusa.net/product-page/klite. It so far
>> has survived a year of pretty intense trail use (no snow, but submerged
>> quite a few times) and shows no sign of additional drag or poor energy
>> transfer. However, given the huge load that a 1300 lumen light can pull
>> from a little 6v/3A generator, I do notice an increase in drag when the
>> light is on when on pavement (chatter on the trail takes that away, though).
>>
>> In the context of night-time usage off-road, it is great and does a way
>> better job than my previous Supernova E3 light. The key thing to note is
>> that the light generation, at night and up hills, is usually quite low, but
>> does enough to light up the trail. The slow speeds mean that I have more
>> time to react so the lower light output isn't too much of an issue.
>> However, If I am out in the boonies with little to no ambient light and
>> heading down hill with enough speed for full light output, the dynamo light
>> on it's own doesn't cut it as all of the twists and turns on a typical
>> trail means that you will often be looking into a dark corner before the
>> bike (and light) makes that turn. For these reasons, I'll have a
>> supplemental headlamp to light the trail before I point my bike into the
>> turns. I don't think any light mounted to a bike would be enough in these
>> situations, on its own.
>>
>> That being said, I am much happier with the Klite when I venture off road
>> and feel much more confident knowing that it really pumps out the lumens
>> (if I can pedal fast enough). Its overkill for commuting, and with the
>> amount of light pollution the bay area puts out, I rarely have to worry
>> about a completely dark night.
>>
>> I haven't had the chance to mess around with the fancier sondelux hubs,
>> so maybe some folks can provide some comparissons or their own opinions on
>> the matter.
>>
>> Happy Monday,
>> Collin A
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Re: [RBW] Velocity NoBS vs. Atlas?

[John McBurney]

I went through the same decision process  when rebuilding my wheels before
doing the C/GAP ride last Oct. I was loaded out with bike, panniers and
rider at 290 Lbs. My wheels were 32 spoke on a belt drive IGH bike.

The trail was in pretty bad shape and in portions near Paw Paw WV there was
deep standing water that lead me to drop into some pretty deep holes.

The wheels came through unscathed.

I spec’d Sapim Strong spokes along with NoBS rims.

They are a nice width.

Recommended.

John

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 10:50 AM Coal Bee Rye Anne <
lionsrugbyalu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If I'm understanding correctly, it would appear the NoBS is the same
> extrusion as the Atlas but just lacking anodization/finish and eyelets.  My
> interpretation of this is viewing the NoBS simply as an unrefined and more
> affordable/budget friendly Atlas.  Are my assumptions accurate?  Am I
> missing something and are there possibly other differences?
>
> NoBS rim descriptions discuss thicker spoke beds and thicker sidewalls...
> but not in direct comparison to Atlas and Atlas rim descriptions (on
> Velocity's pages, etc.) are otherwise lacking.
>
> The NoBS/Atlas has found it's way onto my short list for rims to consider
> for a potential no-nonsense, custom built, multi-purpose, multi-bike,
> dyno-hubbed, new front wheel with future-proofness being greatly taken into
> consideration.
>
> My thinking goes as follows:
> I currently have 4 different frames that share the 700c wheel size (two
> newer/nicer frames including my 65cm Clem, and two older/fixer-upper/beater
> level frames.)  They all have the same 9x100 spec'd fork ends with stock
> forks although nicer frame #2 is involved in an ongoing one-off project
> that involves a more useful/versatile replacement fork with 12x100 thru
> axle and disc brake spec.
>
> I've considered just buying a complete 'off the shelf' thru axle disc
> wheel to accommodate this particular conversion project and being done with
> it but at $150-200 minimum investment at the lower end of those wheel specs
> I'm reconsidering and debating just taking this opportunity to invest in a
> quality handbuilt dyno front wheel that could maybe be moved from bike to
> bike as I rotate them annually and/or seasonally.
>
> At first glance this wouldn't appear to make much sense with the differing
> hub and brake specs (9x100 vs 12x100 TA) but thanks to an adapter like this:
>
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/hubs/son-12-mm-thru-axle-adapter/
>
> I'm wondering if building up a single dyno wheel with 12x100 thru axle hub
> with center lock disc and a rim that could be used with rim brakes could be
> more cost effective and space-concious in the long run and with an adapter
> as linked above it could easily transfer over to my Clem and two other
> frames if needed/desired?
>
> I'm not 100% set on the above rims but considering the range of tires I'd
> want/need to fit among the 4 different frames (32mm up to 50+mm(Clem)) this
> rim width seems to offer the best compromise and tire size range.
>
> I understand there are more details to consider, such as
> wiring/lights/etc. that would make moving the wheel from bike to bike more
> complicated and not just a 'quick swap', but my intent would not be to have
> all 4 dyno ready at the same time.  I'd initially dedicate the new disc
> forked project to the generator system (as this is also primarily meant to
> be a winter bike with more night time riding expected) but with the ability
> to move this all over to my Clem and beater bikes whenever needed or
> wanted, since I still like to tinker and try new builds on occasion.
>
> I realize I ventured a little further from my initial question and topic
> but now you know most of what I'm thinking.  I'm basically trying to
> determine if choosing something like the NoBS offers most, if not all, of
> the benefits of an Atlas but by shaving off $30 (or more like $60 if
> compared to the fully polished Atlas) this could help offset the cost of
> the more costly hub (whether SON, Shimano, etc.)
>
> Brian Cole
> Lawrenceville, NJ
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Mystery bike in April Blahg

[John McBurney]

I was really thinking about gravel riding where you might encounter
occasional stretches of single track and when you might need to push into
the night to make a goal, make up for lost time,  get back on schedule.
When I was doing 24 hour MTB races I thought it was important to have the
main light on the bike so you could see where you are headed and a smaller
helmet light to look into turns. It’s great if you can recharge or stop
after a lap and change batteries. In a multi day bikepacking adventure
battery capacity, battery weight and recharging are issues.

FWIW the bikepackers on FB are running dynamo systems. The leading edge
systems charge batteries that run lights and recharge devices. The best
charge both from dynamo and solar. For straight dynamo systems the issue is
lower power output below 10 mph.

John

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 8:41 PM Eric Daume  wrote:

> And for single track I really want a helmet mounted light anyway. Not
> being able to look around corners is frightening.
>
> On Monday, April 29, 2019, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
>> Dyno lights typically don't have a beam suitable for singletrack.
>> On 4/29/19 3:50 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>>
>> Anyone have experience with a dyno set-up on a rig that frequents jouncy 
>> singletrack who can report to the bomb-proofness on stupid stuff, not just 
>> over a ride or two but several years, thorough all types of weather, muck, 
>> mud splat, snow sludge, et al?
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Mystery bike in April Blahg

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I agree, running a light in the daytime front and rear has meant fewer
encounters with motorists. I have a dynamo only on the Bombadil but I
really like it. My new Bush and Mueller IQ-X is always on I don’t have to
think about it. I du have a rear light hooked up too but also run a bright
100 lumen daytime flasher on the rear.

I have done a lot of night riding both road group rides, mountain biking
including 24 hour races and commuting. My first light - a Night Sun Team -
back in the early 90s was such a revelation. We lived in the Puget Sound
area and the winter days are so short. Being able to ride at night was life
changing. Since them I’ve gone through multiple iterations of most all the
major manufactures lights and ever improving batteries.

I have been skeptical about claims that the beam pattern of dynamo lights
make them more effective. No more. The IQ-X is dramatically more effective
than my brightest 1000 lumen light, partly because it doesn’t scatter light
in my eyes, killing my night vision. I used to run a main light on the bike
and a helmet light to be able to see to the sides. I don’t feel the need to
as I no longer feel trapped in a light tunnel.

John

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 2:47 PM masmojo  wrote:

> It's gotten to the point I almost never do a build without a dynamo. I
> started using them several years ago and with the lightness of the new hubs
> and the brightness of the new LED lights it's really a nobrainer.
> I run my lights all the time & I never realized how huge of a difference
> it made until the first time I rode without one. Suddenly,  people were
> pulling out right in front of me or cutting me off. I thought I was just
> having a bad day, until I got to work & realized "No light!"
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Re: [RBW] Re: Mystery bike in April Blahg

[John McBurney]

How about Gold berry?

John



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jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Agree. Would not be a lot to ask for just one bike model to be named after
> a woman. But, hope springs eternal - maybe the Anniversary Mixte will have
> a feminine name! My hopes are so high for this bike. I should probably
> settle down until I actually have some cold, hard facts.
>
> I am pulling for fat tires, step-through top tubes, Rivendell head badge,
> fancy lugs, and red paint with cream accents. Hey, even nobodies like me
> can have wish lists, right?
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Re: [RBW] Re: 58 Ram on EBay

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I’ve heard 6 fingers can be a problem.

https://images.app.goo.gl/2cctQ9QbPdy3Y6ybA

John

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 12:02 PM sameness  wrote:

> I scaled the photos and figured out it was indeed a 58cm, sent an offer
> because I need it like a sixth finger, and then somebody else nabbed it.
>
> Bikes. Shrug.
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 4:24:27 AM UTC-7, Matt Beecher wrote:
>>
>> Whew!  I was struggling not to buy this and held firm with:  What does
>> this have that my 1972 LeChampion cannot do?”  I’m glad it is over.
>>
>> Did anyone here buy it?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Matt B
>> Oswego, IL
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Re: [RBW] What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

[John McBurney]

I like the Abus Bordo Granit folding locks myself.

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 4:37 PM David Bivins  wrote:

> Almost the same as Shoji - pitlocks on wheels and seat post - but with a
> black and yellow "Fuhgeddaboutit" Kryptonite lock. Here in NYC it can be a
> challenge to find something small enough to work with the frame or back
> wheel and the Krypto Mini. I also put a cover over the saddle.
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 4:17 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> I made a lock from about 3' of towing chain from the hardware store, held
>> by an Abus padlock. I leave this attached to the bike rack at a local
>> Sprout's some 5-6 miles away. It's a reasonably cheap and I suspect and
>> certainly hope reasonably secure system.
>>
>> When the clerk cut my length of chain, he started with an angle grinder
>> and finished up with a hacksaw; at any rate, a bolt cutter would not work,
>> and using the 2 cutting tools took him 10 or 15 minutes to get through a
>> single link.
>>
>> Does anyone know anything about towing chain? Googling calls up
>> scuttlebutt that it's quite hard to cut. But I haven't heard of anyone
>> else, at least on my lists, using this stuff.
>>
>> I cover it with a section of old MTB tube.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 1:06 PM Cinza  wrote:
>>
>>> I just found out the Kryptonite lock with a barrel key is easy for
>>> thieves as of late.
>>>  What locks do you like and why?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

[John McBurney]

One of the guys who used to work on my bikes was a bike mechanic in
Charleston had a customer who was an instructor in the Marine Recon School,
a small part of the Corps similar to the Navy Seals. A passionate cyclist,
he routinely carried a Glock even on the bike.

He was riding down a two lane road toward a bridge when a pickup carrying 3
good ol boys sped by and someone threw a beer at him. The marine flipped
them off and they pulled over, each coming toward him with a baseball bat.

It’s not a fair fight even if the marine is unarmed but..,

He backed them down at gunpoint, forced them to throw their bats in the
river and told them he didn’t ever want to see them on the road again.

Semper Fi.

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 8:53 AM lconley  wrote:

> Back in the 70's I used to ride with a friend who had been harassed by
> someone with a gun once, so he started carrying a 9mm Smith and Wesson in
> the holster strapped to the center of the handlebars, which was legal at
> the time. No more harassment. Not my style, but it worked for him. We used
> to ride the 120 miles between Gainesville and Daytona Beach on quarter
> breaks. I was on my Paramount and he rode an aluminum Alan (glued lugs?) as
> I recall.
>
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> Cocoa FL
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Re: [RBW] Re: Reviews Heron Randonneur

[John McBurney]

Really great deal as is but could be repainted  and made very fancy too.
Frame is nice enough that out would be well worth what ever you wanted to
spend on paint Nitto components Honjo fenders etc.

Or you could just ride it.

http://www.heronbicycles.com/rand.html


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> Screaming deal for a hop-on-and-go complete in my, err... our size. I will
> give you a 30 minute head start before I hit Send.
>
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Re: [RBW] Hand-Cranked Coffee Grinder Recommendation

[John McBurney]

We have a Kyocera coffee grinder and it is a typically perfect Japanese
product from a company founded on making high tech high quality ceramics
which is what the grinding wheels are made of. It’s slow (think Kevin
Kostner In Dances With Wolves) but never heats up the grind, and is almost
infinitely adjustable from coarse to espresso. It’s small and lightweight
enough to pack in a pannier, too. Ours has gotten us through several power
outages.

Much cheaper on Amazon.

https://www.swissknifeshop.com/kyocera-ceramic-coffee-grinder?gclid=CjwKCAjwqfDlBRBDEiwAigXUaH0v_AE-xms2VnDeO3M1g9x9kt6FZvcWDfaeSGSX6nvChCtlGMsKMhoCe_8QAvD_BwE

John

On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 11:05 AM SeanMac  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I will be living in a hotel for three weeks this summer.  As a coffee
> geek, the thought of being forced to drink hotel coffee during this time is
> a bit frightening.  Rather than hopping in a car and driving to a coffee
> shop, my plan is to put together an on-the-go coffee kit that can be used
> for this hotel stay -- as well as future hotel visits and on-the-bike /
> coffee outside adventures.
>
> I've pretty much decided that the AeroPress coffee kit is going to be my
> go-to coffee maker.  As I will be staying alone, I am after quality of
> coffee rather than volume.  In addition, this seems to provide reasonable
> easy hotel room clean-up, which also seems pretty important.
>
> I did some searching on the coffee outside threads on this group and found
> several coffee grinders that are often spoke of.  One of them, the Porlex
> Mini, is currently available for about $65.
> Porlex Mini
> 
>
> Some searching also led to some positive comments for a much less
> expensive JavaPresse grinder ($26)
> JavaPresse
> 
>
> I'm not opposed to spending money to obtain a quality product.  I am just
> trying to decide if the extra cost of the Porlex grinder is worth it in
> this particular situation.
>
> Any thoughts / comments / recommendations would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
> EA, NY
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 2000 58cm Atlantis $675 complete bike

[John McBurney]

Wow. What a beautiful bike at a crazy price. It would be a perfect fit.
Sigh.

John
Greenville SC

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 10:06 PM Jonathan D.  wrote:

> Let me know if he will ship. Amazing price.
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Re: [RBW] Medium Saddlesack Side Pockets

[John McBurney]

I looked at it today and think 2 tubes in boxes would fit fine. I’ll try to
take a picture and sent that after work.

John

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 1:22 AM 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> John
>
> Yes, 700x32 size tube.  Sorry about neglecting to mention tube size
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
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>> I’ll check but I’m pretty sure. The side pockets are big. What size tube?
>> 700x32?
>>
>> John
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Re: [RBW] Last Call: Parts donations for San Diego BSC hubbahubbah tandem

[John McBurney]

I have a brand new VO Crazy bar and quill stem. I decided not to use em. If
you can use em they are yours.

John

On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 8:34 PM Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles <
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> Hey All!
>
> We're in the last phases of finalizing everything for Riv and our donated
> Hubbahubbah.
>
> Do you have any 9 speed parts laying around?  Bosco handlebars? etc...take
> a look-see at the link below for a parts list.
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U3bY8-FZaXw7SIsJkg2fkQNCtCtAlxafP3xlrLh7VSM/edit?usp=sharing
>
> I'll probably wrap up this effort by Friday.
>
> Thanks to Laing for the brakes!!!
>
>
> (If you're lost on where this project is coming from check out the
> GoFundMe page along with the updates linked HERE
> )
>
>
>
> BTW if you want to contribute but don't have parts, you are still
> welcome to throw a few bucks at the GoFundMe campaign.  Everything will go
> to Riv for parts...
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Alex, Yellow Haus Bicycles
> Rochester, NY
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Re: [RBW] Medium Saddlesack Side Pockets

[John McBurney]

I’ll check but I’m pretty sure. The side pockets are big. What size tube?
700x32?

John

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> How large are the side pockets on the medium saddlesack?   Can you fit 2
> rolled up tubes in boxes in a side pocket sack??
>
> The pictures show the side pockets almost flush with the bag, leaving very
> little depth.   Maybe just an illusion.
>
> I am used to the side pockets on a Carradice type bag and an Ostrich S2.
> These can easilyy hold 2 tubes in boxes.
>
> Are the medium saddlesack side pockets as big???
>
> TIA
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
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Re: [RBW] Re: 650B wheels?

[John McBurney]

These sure are pretty

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SunXCD-Wheelset-high-flange-hubs-polished-alloy-rims-650B-x-36-hole-130-OLN/202580928557?hash=item2f2ac3a82d:g:jeoAAOSwPgxVTHk2
John

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 12:49 PM Collin A  wrote:

> That's also like $800+ for a pair of wheels there Joe...
>
> I'd go with A23s and 32 to 36 spokes laced to Deore XT hubs for the mixed
> terrain riding you describe. They work well, aren't overbuilt, are
> reasonably cheap, easily serviceable, and still tubeless if that is
> something that you eventually want to try. If tubeless isn't in your
> future, maybe go with atlas rims for a little more durability, as Ash
> mentioned above.
>
> For context, I have a set of alex DM24 rims laced to deore hubs on my
> MTB-Race Clem. Wheels are a bit heavy, but they work well, can be fixed in
> the boonies, and can take a beating.
>
> Good luck with the build/search!
>
> On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 10:35:48 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> As James at Analog already mentioned White Industries hubs and Sapim
>> spokes, here's the Atlantis I just bought from him. WI rear, Schmidt Dyno
>> front, 650B x 43 tubeless tires on Cliffhanger rims. Those babies will take
>> you anywhere you want to go.
>>
>>  https://www.analogcycles.com/product/demo-rivendell-atlantis/
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Re: [RBW] Re: 650B wheels?

[John McBurney]

I think that the rim is the issue. Then disc or rim. I had a set of 700 c
disc wheels Built up with Velocity NoBS 32 spoke rims. No pretty but very
strong and cost effective. Atlas without eyelets and polishing.

I spec’d Sapim Strong spokes. Sapim uses the same steel for Strong which is
as I understand it single butted and heavier gushiest as in C X-ray whole
DT Swiss uses less strong steel for their higher gauge Spokes. Also specd
brass nipples.

Although really expensive, HED Belgium might be an option for an ultimate
wheel set. Gran Bois are on sale at Compass. Might be a good option if
fiberless isn’t important. Sure are pretty.

When I rebuild my current 650b wheels I will probably spec Pacenti and
Sapim Strong spokes with brass nippples.

John

On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 6:41 PM Carla Waugh  wrote:

> It’s a nine speed
> I have Compass 42
> Rim brake
> No heavy touring
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Re: [RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

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I think both have their place. The analogy I used is digital versus
analogue audio. I love my turn table and records but by golly I love the
precision and convenience of my digital setup too.

I originally got into friction way back in the 60s then rediscovered it
more recently when I got fed up with different standards for 9 speed 10
speed road, mountain shimano SRAM etc etc etc.

I run the Bombadil 9 speed indexed with DA barcons on Thumbies in index
mode because I Ride it off road some and quick shifting is essential.

On the road there is usually time to reach for the downtube shifter and
fine tune the shift.

John

On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 9:56 AM Dave Grossman  wrote:

> I'm back to friction almost exclusively now and I am tired of fiddling
> with indexing setups.  I like the idea of set and forget and I love the
> idea of really having to be in tune with the bike to shift.  My Jones has
> 11 speed XT which does shift really nicely, but when I get back to friction
> on the Hunq I never worry about being out and having an issue arise.
>
> I kind of find it to be a Luddite vs Industrialization argument, without
> the machine smashing.  I like the idea of doing it myself, and I don't want
> a machine to take it over for me!
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Slick go-fast Rambouillet on Seattle CL

[John McBurney]

On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 1:57 PM John McBurney  wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 1:35 PM Collin A  wrote:
>
>> I decided against it. Its a killer deal, but just too similar to another
>> bike I have, so I can't rationalize getting another one just cause it's a
>> good deal.
>>
>> Hopefully it goes to a good home soon, though, before I have a change of
>> heart, ha!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 6, 2019 at 2:25:15 PM UTC-7, DarinM wrote:
>>>
>>> I thought it was listed at $1400 when I posted it last night. Am I
>>> mistaken? Still a good deal, let us know if you pick it up Collin!
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Slick go-fast Rambouillet on Seattle CL

[John McBurney]

On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 1:35 PM Collin A  wrote:

> I decided against it. Its a killer deal, but just too similar to another
> bike I have, so I can't rationalize getting another one just cause it's a
> good deal.
>
> Hopefully it goes to a good home soon, though, before I have a change of
> heart, ha!
>
>
>
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>>
>> I thought it was listed at $1400 when I posted it last night. Am I
>> mistaken? Still a good deal, let us know if you pick it up Collin!
>>
>> Darin
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Re: [RBW] PSA: Slick go-fast Rambouillet on Seattle CL

[John McBurney]

Man that’s a sweet deal on a beautiful bike!  Don’t let it slip away.

John

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Re: [RBW] Re: Original Rivendell Mountain Bike

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How does this bike compare to the Bombadil?  Just eyeballing it, it seems
similar

John

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> Interestingly the rarest original Riv looks most like the current ones.
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Re: [RBW] Dynamo Lights

[John McBurney]

I somewhat misadvisably decided to open the light to see whether it even
was an LED or incandescent. It has a single LED. The lens is truly
impressive but devishly difficult to get back in with the correct
orientation. Right now it’s together but the lens is vertical. I think it
projected down and was effective enough before I flipped it upside down.
That was partly aesthetic and partly because at the end of a big old Nitto
Campee rack it was getting the crap beat of it and I had to retap the
housing to m4 to keep it on the mount. Flipped it was doomed with the first
rain but a little out of harms way.

I remain impressed - awed- by the depth of knowledge in this group. 
Namaste.

John

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 2:23 PM Peter White  wrote:

> The Supernova Triple and the early E3 headlights were just round beams,
> not well suited for use in traffic. But starting around 2008 or so they
> began to offer the E3 in a "low beam" version. That's when I started
> importing them. The Triple is a fine headlight for riding single track. The
> original E3 wasn't much good for anything, as the beam was narrow, far too
> narrow for use on single track. So the OP's E3 may or may not have a round
> beam. If it does, it's best he replace it with a modern headlight. If it
> has a "low beam" design, the only advantage to replacing it with the
> current E3 would be that they are a fair bit brighter. But for relatively
> flat roads in an urban setting, the older "low beam" type is a fine
> headlight. I'd just keep using it.
>
> If he does decide to replace it, the Supernova taillights from that time
> are compatible with modern Supernova headlights. But not with anything
> else. So if you opt for any other brand of headlight, you'll need to
> replace the taillight as well.
>
> Peter White
>
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>> The only quibble I would have with the Supernova is that it has what I
>> would call an “American” beam pattern, which is basically a cone of light
>> that shines equally up, down, and side to side. All of the quality lights
>> out of Europe (think Edeluxe) have a cutoff pattern that shines down on the
>> road and to the sides, but not up (like the headlights on your car). A lot
>> of the power of the Supernova is wasted shining up to the sky (and into the
>> eyes of oncoming motorists and cyclists).
>>
>> A friend has one, though, and likes it. He’s fond of the feature that
>> turns the three LEDs on in sequence as your speed increases.
>>
>> I have Edeluxe on four bikes, IQ-X on two. All work very well—light years
>> (pun intended) better than the incandescent headlight I used for
>> randonneuring and PBP in 2007.
>>
>> --Eric Norris
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>> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2019, at 9:29 AM, Tom Wyland  wrote:
>>
>> I suggest reading up on Peter White Cycles webpage. Supernovas have a
>> good reputation. I don’t think the E3 is as old as the bike.
>> There are not many dynamo tail lamps that are good for daytime compared
>> to modern battery strobe lights. Strobe tail lights aren’t allowed in some
>> countries in Europe so don’t find dynamo light equivalents.
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Re: [RBW] Dynamo Lights

[John McBurney]

Thank you so much for the discussion.

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 12:34 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> The only quibble I would have with the Supernova is that it has what I
> would call an “American” beam pattern, which is basically a cone of light
> that shines equally up, down, and side to side. All of the quality lights
> out of Europe (think Edeluxe) have a cutoff pattern that shines down on the
> road and to the sides, but not up (like the headlights on your car). A lot
> of the power of the Supernova is wasted shining up to the sky (and into the
> eyes of oncoming motorists and cyclists).
>
> A friend has one, though, and likes it. He’s fond of the feature that
> turns the three LEDs on in sequence as your speed increases.
>
> I have Edeluxe on four bikes, IQ-X on two. All work very well—light years
> (pun intended) better than the incandescent headlight I used for
> randonneuring and PBP in 2007.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyonly...@me.com
> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>
> On Mar 31, 2019, at 9:29 AM, Tom Wyland  wrote:
>
> I suggest reading up on Peter White Cycles webpage. Supernovas have a good
> reputation. I don’t think the E3 is as old as the bike.
> There are not many dynamo tail lamps that are good for daytime compared to
> modern battery strobe lights. Strobe tail lights aren’t allowed in some
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Re: [RBW] To Helmet or not

[John McBurney]

Now the other question...which helmet?

I owe my life to a MSR mountain climbing helmet.  I was a strong 16 year
old junior in 1970 when I rolled my tubular at 30 mph. My riding partner,
my grandfather, and I were among the few who wore helmets back then. The
MSR used a nylon web and deformable rings and I pushed the webbing to the
shell when I landed. The outer was deeply gouged right on the top .

I’ve crashed several times since. Been hit by a truck. But this was the big
one.

I recently bought on of the new Bontrager waveflow helmets. I can’t PROVE
it’s better than a styrofoam helmet... but I’m hedging my bets. As a
knowledge worker I don’t have a choice.

John W McBurney MD
Neurologist

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 10:38 PM John McBurney  wrote:

> Helmet.
>
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 10:37 PM Mark Schneider 
> wrote:
>
>> Good evening,
>>
>> A recent experience has made me curious on everyones opinion of wearing
>> helmets. To some, it seems against the standard Rivendell ethos to wear a
>> helmet. In this case as in others (clipless pedals)I stray from the
>> standard Rivendell line. I believe in them, I won't get on my bike without
>> one for any meaningful ride. Last night, I had an experience that made me
>> damn glad that I do. I was riding eastbound on Pescadero Road right at rush
>> hour, Butano Creek has been flooding the road for some time now so when
>> traffic coming from both directions approaches the flooded area both sides
>> form a cue. I was riding faster than I normally do as it had just started
>> to pour and I was headed home, as I followed a car across the flooded
>> section because of the small wake, I couldn't see the fog line which I try
>> to stay to the left of, also I was watching the cars much closer than I was
>> where my front tire was going.Well as you probably guessed I crashed hard
>> when my from tire hit the lip of a pothole at an angle that thru me
>> sideways off the bike. My helmeted head hit the pavement hard, and while I
>> didn't loose consciousness I wasn't able to stand on my own or get up for a
>> minute or two despite laying in 4-5 inches of cold water. There's no
>> question that I'd have been injured far worse than I was had I not had a
>> helmet on. I ended up in a ambulance and was taken to the ER. Today, I'm a
>> bit foggy, and my neck is killing me. I was concussed and have a whiplash,
>> the doctor told me I was lucky I had a helmet on, I did not go over the
>> handlebars but fell sideways and hit the side of my head.
>> I guess my point is I think this accident could happen to anyone, I've
>> been riding bikes since the early 1960's and I haven't crashed this hard in
>> decades. I did make some errors,  like not waiting for the traffic to pass,
>> but I've crossed this spot many times this winter as well as turning around
>> when there's too much water. I'm usually cautious as injuries heal slowly
>> at my age.
>> So my question is, helmet or no helmet, and if no helmet why?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Mark
>> Pescadero Basin
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Re: [RBW] To Helmet or not

[John McBurney]

Helmet.

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 10:37 PM Mark Schneider  wrote:

> Good evening,
>
> A recent experience has made me curious on everyones opinion of wearing
> helmets. To some, it seems against the standard Rivendell ethos to wear a
> helmet. In this case as in others (clipless pedals)I stray from the
> standard Rivendell line. I believe in them, I won't get on my bike without
> one for any meaningful ride. Last night, I had an experience that made me
> damn glad that I do. I was riding eastbound on Pescadero Road right at rush
> hour, Butano Creek has been flooding the road for some time now so when
> traffic coming from both directions approaches the flooded area both sides
> form a cue. I was riding faster than I normally do as it had just started
> to pour and I was headed home, as I followed a car across the flooded
> section because of the small wake, I couldn't see the fog line which I try
> to stay to the left of, also I was watching the cars much closer than I was
> where my front tire was going.Well as you probably guessed I crashed hard
> when my from tire hit the lip of a pothole at an angle that thru me
> sideways off the bike. My helmeted head hit the pavement hard, and while I
> didn't loose consciousness I wasn't able to stand on my own or get up for a
> minute or two despite laying in 4-5 inches of cold water. There's no
> question that I'd have been injured far worse than I was had I not had a
> helmet on. I ended up in a ambulance and was taken to the ER. Today, I'm a
> bit foggy, and my neck is killing me. I was concussed and have a whiplash,
> the doctor told me I was lucky I had a helmet on, I did not go over the
> handlebars but fell sideways and hit the side of my head.
> I guess my point is I think this accident could happen to anyone, I've
> been riding bikes since the early 1960's and I haven't crashed this hard in
> decades. I did make some errors,  like not waiting for the traffic to pass,
> but I've crossed this spot many times this winter as well as turning around
> when there's too much water. I'm usually cautious as injuries heal slowly
> at my age.
> So my question is, helmet or no helmet, and if no helmet why?
>
> Thanks
> Mark
> Pescadero Basin
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Re: [RBW] Acorn Bags for sale

[John McBurney]

I have these exact bags in black and this is a great deal. Acorn bags are
hard to get, made only in small batches by a home based business. They are
beautifully well made. The fabric Martexin Wax is a little coarser than
Sackville Sack waxed cotton but is made in USA by a family owned business
in operation nearly 200 years. The leather is absolutely beautiful.

John

On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 11:12 AM Steve Butcher 
wrote:

> Hello Forum,
>  I'm offering for sale one Large Acorn saddlebag and one Acorn
> handlebar bag.  Both are Olive canvas in color with honey-colored leather.
> The bags are in as new condition, never been wet, and always stored
> indoors.   I don't have photos to share but they are exactly as they appear
> on Acorn's website.  It seems Acorn has not offered the Olive canvas in a
> while.  I'd like to get $125.00 for the set shipped to lower 48 CONUS.  I
> have also posted this on the iBOB forum but would like to offer this to
> this forum as well.
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Re: [RBW] Friction down tube shifters

[John McBurney]

The Suntour Superbe Pro’s are excellent if you can find a pair...If they
pull enough cable.

I have been told that 9 speed is finicky about ghost shifting when going
friction. Certainly I’ve have had just the experience you describe with my
pre-Silver Riv DT shifters (don’t know how The compare to silver) so I
“downgraded “ to 8 speed when I replaced my cassette and chain Saturday.
Haven’t had a ghost shift so far.

John

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 5:39 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I have a set of really nice Suntour levers that I’ll give you for a really
> good price. PM me offline.
>
> --Eric Norris
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> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>
> On Mar 25, 2019, at 1:08 PM, PaulS  wrote:
>
> I am looking for a set of downtube shifters for my Hunq. Mated to a 3x9-sp
> Mountain drive train (in case they are both index and friction). What’s a
> decent set?
>
> I’ve had Riv Silver in the past. However, I could not get the shifter to
> stay tight and in gear. I really had to crank on the wing nut to keep it
> from loosening up. I even contacted Riv and all they suggested was getting
> some Nord-lock washers. Which I had a hard time finding them in the right
> size and gave up.
>
> Any other suggestions?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell tinkering..

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I’ve read Japanese Steel and found it fascinating since it covers the time
back in the mid-60’s and early 70’s when I was coming up and the European
bikes - Raleigh, Botetechia etc were aspiratational and Japanese bikes were
what I, as a high school student, could afford. I may have lusted after a
Raleigh International but a Miyata Pro was more realistic - and probably a
better bike.

Now I have a variety of bikes and love each and every one. But on my
Bombadil with its beautiful lugs and Joe Bell paint job, I truly love the
quality and aesthetics of high end Japanese components - Sun XCD, Nitto,
Honjo. Panaracer (Compass). OMG what wonderful tires!

I might llike it as much much with value based components but probably
wouldn’t love it nearly as much. And to me loving it is what it’s all about
to me.
To me that is what makes it a Rivendell.
John

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 10:38 AM aeroperf  wrote:

> I am SO glad you brought this subject up.  It goes to the heart of What
> Makes A Rivendell Bike?
>
> I got my Sam in 2015.  By 2016 I had it set up.  That means - taking what
> came with the bike and making it fit *me*.
> Not “tinkering” so much as adjusting, as Deacon Patrick describes.  Seat
> height.  Bar height.  Bar angle.  Pedal type.
>
> With that more-or-less done, came the “tinkering” part - what to
> change/add to make it better, or even more comfortable?
> In my case I put a 3-ring front crankset on in 2017, to replace the 2-ring
> it came with.  I called Riv and contacted Will about the rings, so this was
> still a blessed Rivendell Bike set-up.
>
> But I had already begun to deviate.  Black plastic Zefal fenders.
> Expedition EX-1 rack.  Arkle panniers.
> I was drifting away from the Nitto racks, Sackville bags, silver fenders
> of a “true” Rivendell.  How far could I go before it became a non-Rivendell
> bike?  Or did it really matter?
>
> Rivendell sells frame sets.  You can put whatever you want on a frameset.
> But how many have you seen with a black Sora crankset, 105 brakes, Sora
> rear drive, and (gasp!) SL-3500 shifters on an alba bar?
> Does anybody ever do that?  Or do they think it breaks the mold to the
> point that it is not a true Rivendell anymore, and just kind of keep it
> under the radar?
>
> A good read is “Japanese Steel”
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0847861708/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8=1
> Another is “Just Ride”
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0761155589/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8=1
>
> These will fill you in on where Grant Petersen came from and what his
> philosophy (and therefore that of Rivendell) is.
>
> So do I put on the latest Sora and 105 equipment?  Or do I strive to keep
> the classic “Japanese Steel” look with chrome accoutrements?  Because the
> “look” can be as important as the performance.  At least twice a year I
> have people compliment the Sam who have no idea what a Rivendell bike is.
>
> In the end I chickened out.  I got a 1982 Team Fuji, and put all the
> modern groupset equipment on that.  I kept the Sam with a classic look
> (well, technically speaking it is Retro.  *I* am Classic).
> How does the whole Classic, Retro, Rivendell, modifications, and tinkering
> go together?
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 26, 2019 at 7:18:21 AM UTC-5, OwenS wrote:
>>
>> I don't know if it's just me but my recently acquired Clem Smith has me
>> continually tinkering and tweaking the setup - trying new positions for the
>> microshift thumbies, different bosco bar heights and angles and it got me
>> wondering if this has been the same experience for others? Do you find
>> yourself continually wanting to tweak, modify and personalize your bikes?
>> With all my previous bikes from Trek and Specialized I never felt this way,
>> they never really encouraged personalization in the same way.
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Re: [RBW] Cargo e-bikes are an amazing concept, but the options are imperfect

[John McBurney]

Look around here. There is a pretty sophisticated cargo e bike scene in
Portland and these guys are real pros.

https://www.splendidcycles.com


John

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 10:26 PM Kolby  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Looking for some help/feedback on the topic of cargo e-bikes -- not
> specifically whether they are a good idea or not, but about specific
> designs currently out there and what I should be looking for. Here's the
> background:
>
> I'm soon moving from Brooklyn to Austin, and as I'll need a second car I
> figured I might finally get that cargo bike I've always wanted instead. I
> have two younger kids and will likely have a commute of 15ish miles daily.
>
> As soon as I started looking around, I quickly realized that Bosch motors
> are taking over the Cargo category. Even though I'd never ridden an e-bike,
> this made sense to me. I mean, it's kinda fun hauling my kid, my gear, and
> myself up hills on my Atlantis, but sometimes it's just joyless drudgery
> and I'd rather be driving. So the ebike was interesting. (Several test
> rides later and I think it's probably the best hope of getting most people
> out of cars and onto bikes, but that's another topic! :))
>
> So I started looking at the options. It just so happens that Surly released
> a cargo e-bike this month : The
> Big Easy, which carries 400 pounds and goes 20 mph.
>
> My LBS had a Big Easy for test rides, so I took it out. After 30 mins I
> was having so much fun I called to say I need another 30 mins at least. I
> went all over my neighborhood, and on "trails" in Prospect Park. I put an
> adult friend on the back and we easily cruised up a hill at 15 mph. It was
> a total blast, and it had a great ride and feel in all situations--it felt
> like one of my own. It was kind of a bone shaker, but softer tires with
> less air would fix that, I figured.
>
> Then I started looking closer at the Surly, and I disappointment set in:
> the kickstand isn't a double (really!?), it uses quick releases instead of
> thru axles on a bike that hauls 400 pounds (this seems unwise, right?), and
> the extra battery is under the bottom bracket for some reason. Even more
> annoying, Surly, true to the name, doesn't make it easy to add a kid seat
> or lights. That would be understandable if it were cheaper, but it's $5k --
> the same price as the Xtracycle eswoop and the Tern CSD, both of which come
> with lights, fenders, etc and assume you'll likely be adding a kid seat or
> something else like that.
>
> Annoyed, I took the Tern and Xtracycle out for rides, but ... both had a
> terrible ride quality IMO. I wouldn't enjoy either on a daily or even semi
> regular basis. Mostly it's due to the fact that they only come in one size,
> which of course just doesn't work. (The Surly comes in S, M, L.)
>
> Lastly, I took a look out a Riese and Muller (front bucket style).
> Specifically, the Load and Packster models. They are quite expensive
> ($7k+), however they're available used for about the price of the Surly and
> others. They have suspension and the ride is both unfamiliar but also very
> stable and buttery smooth. The downside of the Riese seems to be all the
> moving parts that make the magic happen, or so it seems to me -- more
> potential points of failure. And it also comes in just one size, which also
> feels too small. But overall I liked it and could ride it for hours a day
> happily, I think.
>
> (Note: the size and kinds of cargo that can be carried by the Surly and
> the Riese & Muller really is different, but in my case both satisfy my
> needs sufficiently that this isn't a factor for my decision.)
>
> So, RBW peeps, I realize that Cargo e-bikes are very UN-Riv, however, I
> trust there are some open minded folks out there with good input or ideas
> on how to proceed. None of these options are ideal -- far from it. But last
> I checked Grant has no plans for a cargo e-bike, so I'm stuck with either
> the lazy and unhelpful Surly, which requires a lot of mods but seems the
> best platform; or the front loading Riese and Muller, which seems amazing
> but is so different than anything I know or have had that it makes me
> uncomfortable.
>
> Thanks for any help
> Kolby
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Re: [RBW] Quick release rear rack basket or crate?

[John McBurney]

This would look a lot classier on a Riv.

https://www.peterborobasket.com/peterboro-rear-rack-bike-basket/?sku=RearRack-B=CjwKCAjw7MzkBRAGEiwAkOXexGFBqQluI5phrutDTa1fGAqpC3rmd5-91RsSJgGP76-dQ9PKNAoPHhoChx8QAvD_BwE


On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 12:35 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I'm thinking of something quite large that sits *on top* of the rear
> rack, not pannier-style, and that will work with "generic" racks and not
> require something proprietary.
>
> The container will need to hold roughly 2 full paper grocery sacks side by
> side (that's an indication of volume, not a description of how it will
> inevitably be loaded).
>
> Is there anything on the market like this? If not, I've got ideas about
> adapting a milk crate, but I'd be interested to hear others' ideas about
> doing the same.
>
> Nope, not sufficient to lash down with rope or bungees or Irish straps; I
> am thinking of a forward "loop" to fit over the rack's forward "tombstone"
> and bottom "hooks" to slide over the rear of the rack; *then* bungee it
> on the sides.
>
> Products? Ideas?
>
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Re: [RBW] Quick release rear rack basket or crate?

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https://www.trekstorecincinnati.com/product/bikase-dairyman-q-r-rear-basket-universal-251367-1.htm?gclid=CjwKCAjw7MzkBRAGEiwAkOXexCA7bQOD1WAJVqrwNzA7dDufLOXdN6Pr-V_DqHum7rgj2NY62ogDShoCfr4QAvD_BwE


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> rack, not pannier-style, and that will work with "generic" racks and not
> require something proprietary.
>
> The container will need to hold roughly 2 full paper grocery sacks side by
> side (that's an indication of volume, not a description of how it will
> inevitably be loaded).
>
> Is there anything on the market like this? If not, I've got ideas about
> adapting a milk crate, but I'd be interested to hear others' ideas about
> doing the same.
>
> Nope, not sufficient to lash down with rope or bungees or Irish straps; I
> am thinking of a forward "loop" to fit over the rack's forward "tombstone"
> and bottom "hooks" to slide over the rear of the rack; *then* bungee it
> on the sides.
>
> Products? Ideas?
>
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Re: [RBW] Any UnRacers in Franklin, Tennessee?

[John McBurney]

I hope will consider participating in the SE 25th Anniversary Rivendell
Ride (SE Riv Ride) on May 3/4/5 in Greenville SC.

John

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:51 AM Andrew Turner 
wrote:

> This is my first post so if this isn't the right place to look for this
> kind of information, let me know!
>
> It seems that every cyclist in my area rides carbon with a full body suit
> of lycra for free, so the idea of riding around for fun loaded with some
> nuts, jerky, havarti, and a hammock has yet to spread for reasons nobody
> can explain.
>
> I thought Rivendell riders might be a fun starting point! If there's
> anyone in the Franklin, TN area who are looking for an extra rider, I'm in!
>
> Thank you, everyone.
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Re: [RBW] Re: RIVENDELL All Rounder for sale

[John McBurney]

I think you should sell it to me for $100

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:08 AM Dave Grossman  wrote:

> Get some pics up!
>
>
> On Thursday, March 21, 2019 at 9:51:43 AM UTC-5, Lee Taylor wrote:
>>
>> Original owner, 1996 All Rounder. 59 cm, extended head tube, S@S
>> couplers, 26 inch wheels.
>> Paint is beat up from years of touring and packing.  Anyone have an idea
>> what I should ask? Must sell to make room for new bike.  Prefer to tour on
>> 700 cm wheels.
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Saddlesack XS Olive

[John McBurney]



On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 6:12 PM DarinM  wrote:

>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=strawberry+clamshell=1CDGOYI_enUS692US693=en-US=sivn=lnms=isch=X=2ahUKEwjDk4fT3pHhAhWQ-p4KHdjvD4cQ_AUoAnoECAwQAg=320=451
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Re: [RBW] Re: Question on matching rim - tire width

[John McBurney]

The velocity nobs rim is really good. Not pretty but sturdy, functional
wide and NO BS.

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 5:47 PM Ash  wrote:

> All,  much appreciate your comments.  I learned a bunch of interesting
> details!  Thank you.
>
> I'm considering Dyad.  But I've also been told that the A23 OC makes for a
> stronger rim.  I have to call Rich sometime.
>
> The Quill rim has a staggeringly wider range (25mm - 47mm), but that's way
> more money than I'm likely to invest.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, 10 March 2019 15:18:25 UTC-7, Mark Anderson wrote:
>>
>> A wider-than-recomended tire is unlikely to blow off an undamaged rim due
>> directly to the weight of the bike.  That's not really how clinchers work.
>>
>> An important part of the upper limit on width from Velocity's perspective
>> is that very wide tires run at high pressures can lead to rim failure,
>> likely in the form of cracked webs and/or sidewalls.  If you are pumping up
>> those 50 mm tires to 90 psi, then you're probably out of spec. for the
>> Atlas rim.  You'd also be nuts to do so for any number of other reasons.
>> If you're using sane pressures for your weight (what, 25-35 psi? Less? I
>> haven't weighed that little since I was ten...), 50s on Atlas and 45s on
>> the A23 are probably fine structurally.  Just ride in the rain enough and
>> you'll wear out the brake tracks before fatigue failure wrecks the rim
>> anyway.
>>
>> One reason to use a wider rim on your prospective AHH is that (many)
>> caliper brake quick releases just open the brake a certain amount relative
>> to the operational setting.  Thus, the wider the rim, the wider the
>> inflated tire that can pass through the opened brakes.
>>
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>> Mark Anderson in Chicago
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Re: [RBW] Re: Midweight Hoody Recommendation

[John McBurney]

Although not a hoody, I have found Portland Cycleware long sleeve merino
wool jerseys to be incredibly useful as a daily rider and bike commuter.
They are heavy weight wool. Don’t cause me to itch at all. Look good on the
bike or for a beer afterward. Sooo comfortable warm but never hot.
John

http://m.oregoncyclewear.com/woolcyclingjerseys.html

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:33 PM ascpgh  wrote:

> Where's most of your riding?
>
> A shell as the outermost surface, like a Patagonia Houdini, keeps wind
> from causing convective heat loss, staves off some wetness and you will
> have a very useful item  benefiting  you across a wide spectrum of weather
> and temperatures when you put it over a range of insulation or base layers.
> it's very packable and able to come off before a base/insulating layer.
>
> I have a Mammut full zip hoody soft shell not too different from the
> Arcteryx with some insulating fleece lining and I find it to be very
> limited for use while cycling if it's above 32°.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2019 at 4:06:51 PM UTC-4, Dave Grossman wrote:
>>
>> Hey Y'all,
>>
>> I'm looking for a new spring/fall mid-weight hoody.  I'd like to get
>> something with some insulation, rain repellency, zip chest pocket, and
>> durability.  I've been eyeing the Arcteryx Atom LT Hoody but it ain't cheap.
>>
>> I have the Revelate Hoody which I love but I wouldn't mind something with
>> a full zip as well.  I'd use it for riding, packing, general life, etc.
>>
>>
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