[RBW] WTB: Pass And Stow 5 rail rack

[Justin August]

Color neutral.

Thanks!
-J

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sizing Bike Friday NWT to replicate 54 cm Hunqapillar

[Justin August]

Add your own!

> On Jan 26, 2020, at 3:56 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:
> 
> 
> Except Bikeinsights doesn't list Bike Fridays or other folding bikes.
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 5:04 PM Justin, Oakland  
>> wrote:
>> Try BikeInsights.com to compare geometries. Works perfectly.
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 10:24:05 PM UTC-8, EWBONSELL wrote:
>>> I'm sorry if this is a bit off topic, but I noticed that a number of 
>>> members of this group also own a Bike Friday.
>>> 
>>> My favorite ride is my 54 CM Hunqapillar.  Unfortunately NJ Transit does 
>>> not allow full size bikes on trains during peak commuting hours, so I need 
>>> to buy a folding bike.  I have decided on Bike Friday and would like to 
>>> dial in the fit as close to my Hunqapillar as possible.  Bike Friday only 
>>> does 73 degree seat tube and head tube angles, so I can't match the 
>>> Hunqapillar's 72 degree angles.  The open question is the top tube length.  
>>> I believe the Hunqapillar has an effective top tube of about 60 cm (nominal 
>>> 58+ cm).  Based upon my measurements, Bike Friday is recommending an 
>>> effective top tube length of 54 cm, but I am afraid that will be too 
>>> cramped.  I am inclined to think the top tube should be somewhere between 
>>> 56 and 60.  If any one reading this has tried to size a Bike Friday to 
>>> match their Rivendell ride, I would love to hear about it.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ernie 
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[RBW] WTB: Sim-Work x Nitto So-Bar in Silver or Narrowest Crust Towel Rack in Silver

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Like the title says.

-J

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Re: [RBW] Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki

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If all you care about are the decals then you are probably SOL.

Will a bike with the same design as the Legolas but with a RIVENDELL on the 
downtube ride the same as one with a LEGOLAS?

I’m assuming yes.


> On Jan 22, 2020, at 7:48 PM, Brian Campbell  wrote:
> 
> Yes but. it was the last one (of that name) or so I was told. I don't 
> know if you can now get the same frame at the same price. Best to call Riv 
> and order one just to make sure!
> 
> On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 10:16:29 PM UTC-5, S wrote:
> Have you read the Legolas thread? Group member Brian Campbell got his Legolas 
> last year for $2,700: 
> 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/HyI-BnNcP3o 
> 
> 
> As Bill Lindsay -- who also bought a Nobilette Legolas for less than the 
> current Rodeo price -- explained: "The price difference is in paying Grant to 
> design a new bike. The Legolas design is done, so it’s much much cheaper than 
> a custom."
> 
> Thus, it's not unreasonable to suppose that you might be able to buy a 
> Saluki, etc, for Rodeo price. Maybe not, I don't know if Riv still has all 
> the lugs needed for the Saluki, but it's confirmed that you can get a Legolas 
> for $2,800 or less. 
> 
> I am with you on the Charlie H. I am waiting to see it before deciding on a 
> semi-custom. 
> 
> On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 6:21:50 PM UTC-8, John G. wrote:
> I don’t think anyone should assume they can get a Saluki, Bombadil, or 
> Legolas for $2800. That’s the price for the Nobilette Roadeo. At the very 
> least, I would expect the additional canti braze-one would increase the cost. 
> 
> It will be interesting to see how Rivendell iterates the MIT frames. The 
> longer chainstays and sloped top tubes seem to be somewhat divisive. Maybe 
> the Gallop will be a hint of things to come. 
> 
> John in Hoboken, who’d love to test ride a long chain stay Riv.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki

[Justin August]

and the longer you wait the less chance there will be a company to order from. 
If every person on this list who said “all I want is a X” decided to buy a 
pre-designed model at the cost it takes to build them then things might be very 
different. 

Want a 750-1150$ bike? Find a time machine, buy a Crust or a MIT Riv. 

> On Jan 22, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> 
> The longer you wait the higher the price will be. 
> 
> BL in EC
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[RBW] WTB: Brooks c17 all weather carved

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I got two c19s earlier and they’re fantastic. Looking to try a c17 just to see 
if I like it better on the roadie. 

Thanks!

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[RBW] WTB: 650b rear wheel / maybe wheelset

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Hey folks-
In need of a rear wheel. 
650b
Rim brake
32 holes
Silver rim
10 speed compatible
Tubeless optional

70/30 worst roads in the US/dirt

Anyone got anything fun?
Open to a wheelset if it’s a dyno, preferably SON

-J

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[RBW] WTT: IRD Defiant 94bcd 175 arms for 170 or 172.5 arms

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Looking to trade!
I have: IRD Defiant 94bcd 175 arms
I’d like to trade for 170 or 172.5 arms

Thanks ahead of time!
-J

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[RBW] WTB: C19 (2)

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Hey folks-
Looking for 2 Brooks Cambium C19 saddles. I would like 1 to be the All-Weather 
Carved version, the other I’m not picky about. Would love to grab a short-nosed 
“women’s version” if anyone is still holding that discontinued model.

Thanks!
-Justin, Oakland

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Re: [RBW] WTB: 650b wheelset (for Rosco Baby build) AND tires too - want to buy by this weekend, SF Bay Area

[Justin August]

Sounds good - let me know if you want.

Offers available for anyone local as well.


> On Dec 17, 2019, at 7:49 AM, Pancake  wrote:
> 
> Hi Justin,
> Byways could be very nice, but I'll have to take a raincheck as several of 
> the not-quite-ideal offers I've got so far include tires and I'm still not 
> settled on a wheelset. 
> 
> So far the offers have all been:
> (1) are a little narrow of a rim (like AMAC above, though he's my backup plan 
> for now) or 
> (2) in 130mm rear spacing (which I understand may be possible to use with a 
> couple 2mm spacers) but I 'm holding out hope for something that is a little 
> wider rim and in 135mm rear spacing. 
> 
> Anyone holding 135mm old rear wheel with a wider rim for 45-65mm tires?
> 
> Thanks for all the helpful replies and messages, I'm feeling better that 
> we'll end up with something good for our project!
> Abe
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, December 17, 2019 at 7:12:53 AM UTC-8, Justin, Oakland wrote:
> I have some Byways. Available for name your reasonable price. Pickup near 
> Montgomery BART 12-12:45 or Maxwell Park/Mills College in Oakland.
> -J
> 
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[RBW] OT: Saturday night

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Heya
My buddy Stevo is DJing at the Golden Bull on Saturday. Lots of black jeans, 
cheap beer and g-list East Bay celebs. Soul music I think from a huge record 
buy he did. 

If you’re up for it let me know!

-J

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Re: [RBW] Issues with slipping bosco bars?

[Justin August]

Agreed.
I know it won’t happen but a small run of Boscos and Chocos in 31.8 would be 
awesome.

> On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:13 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Everything you've described - most of which include a different stem and/or 
> bar design - are intended to combat the physics I'm talking about. My claim 
> stands: I think some people are putting more leverage into the Tallux/Bosco 
> combination than it can withstand without extra remedies at the clamp area. I 
> also think some get lucky with the specific tolerances of their bar/stem and 
> never have a slip. 
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[RBW] WTB: Soma Osprey bars

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Silver mandatory. 
Either clamp size ok but 25.4 is preferred. 

-J

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[RBW] WTB: 40tooth chainring guard

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Anyone have one of these : 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/silver-chainring-guard
Who wants to get rid of it?

Private message me. 

-J

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[RBW] Wanted: Clem L 52 or 59

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Anyone holding a relatively used frame they’d like to let go for less than 
retail?

-J

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[RBW] WTB: ENO eccentric rear wheel, 650b

[Justin August]

Not picky on the rim but needs to be rim brake compatible. Would prefer the 
kind that accepts regular thread on cogs and freewheeled but I’m open. 

Items for trade and ca$h

-J

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Re: [RBW] Chacos vs. Bedrocks

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I disagree with DP on nearly everything except this.
Beyond bone damage the reason most folks end up needing arch support and the 
like to compensate for weak or unbalanced feet. Get flat shoes to start with, 
then move to thinner soles and your feet will repay you. On and off the bike.

-J

> On Aug 20, 2019, at 12:31 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
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> A semi-brief comment in general on minimalist shoes/sandals: They are 
> wonderful. No cushion, thin as possible, no support, and foot shaped (w-i-d-e 
> forefoot). I used to "need" orthotics (since age 12), had severe tendon 
> issues and flat feet. Going barefoot strengthened my feet, shortened them 
> from a size 12-13 to an 11.5, widened my forefoot considerably, and no need 
> for support of any kind. But transition requires patience and not doing 
> too-much-too-soon. Initial transition/strengthening took 3 months with 100% 
> barefoot or minimalist shoes (I had to make my own back then, 2009), with 
> full transition taking a year or so. The entire body has to learn how to move 
> without cushion/high heels, et al. Once it does, wow, amazing difference for 
> neck, back, strength, endurance, and flow of motion. 
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Re: Chacos vs. Bedrocks

[Justin August]

Also:
I was told by the Bedrock guys when I bought mine that the Pro wears much 
faster than the regular outsole so to only get it if you really are going into 
the water. 

> On Aug 20, 2019, at 6:58 AM, 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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> We should start a ROG Sandal Exchange Program! Thank you for the comments on 
> the differences, that was my take as well. I did notice there is a different 
> pattern in the footbeds between the regular and pro, so it made me curious if 
> that material was somehow different too.? Not sure I need sticky rubber for 
> water here in Colorado...I'm primarily a dry land animal. But the NON 3D 
> sounds the ticket for sure.
> 
> I suppose I'll throw my Z1 Blue Mens 9 in the ring. Maybe 4 wears on them? PM 
> if interested, I could snap some pics.
> 
>> On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 8:54:01 PM UTC-6, Drw wrote:
>> I have an almost new pair of chacos, z1 I think, no toe loop, all black, 
>> MUSA, vibrant soleif anyone wants to purchase them.
>> As for the bedrock cairns, my understanding is that most of the difference 
>> is in the outsole. The footbed of even the cairn 3D pro is pretty 
>> uncontoured and mostly flat.
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Chacos vs. Bedrocks

[Justin August]

Compounds:
Pro is sticky for water.

Insoles:
3D is thicker sole and slight contour to footbed.

Outsoles:
Cairn is lugged hiking tred
Geo is flattened lugs for casual usage
Plain is slithky textures outsole. 

> On Aug 20, 2019, at 6:58 AM, 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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> We should start a ROG Sandal Exchange Program! Thank you for the comments on 
> the differences, that was my take as well. I did notice there is a different 
> pattern in the footbeds between the regular and pro, so it made me curious if 
> that material was somehow different too.? Not sure I need sticky rubber for 
> water here in Colorado...I'm primarily a dry land animal. But the NON 3D 
> sounds the ticket for sure.
> 
> I suppose I'll throw my Z1 Blue Mens 9 in the ring. Maybe 4 wears on them? PM 
> if interested, I could snap some pics.
> 
>> On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 8:54:01 PM UTC-6, Drw wrote:
>> I have an almost new pair of chacos, z1 I think, no toe loop, all black, 
>> MUSA, vibrant soleif anyone wants to purchase them.
>> As for the bedrock cairns, my understanding is that most of the difference 
>> is in the outsole. The footbed of even the cairn 3D pro is pretty 
>> uncontoured and mostly flat.
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Chacos vs. Bedrocks

[Justin August]

Its very different on each type of sandal IME.  I would say if it bothers you 
at first to lube it with some coconut oil and keep going. 

> On Aug 19, 2019, at 1:08 PM, Neil Doran  wrote:
> 
> Has anybody tried the Bedrocks and found that the toe strap configuration 
> bothers their feet? That is the problem with my current set of Chacos, I find 
> the 'toe noose' very uncomfortable. I love the thick sole of the Chacos for 
> riding, but a lighter sandal also sounds quite nice. Just don't know if I 
> would be equally bothered by the Bedrock retention system.
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Choco Bar

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Bars found. THX

> On Aug 3, 2019, at 1:26 PM, The Snag  wrote:
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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW at 25: The Fellowship of the Rigs

[Justin August]

Mine are on the gram as well
Instagram.com/justinaugust

I’m private but I’ll add you. But be forewarned it’s mostly just my daughter 
being cute. 

> On Jul 22, 2019, at 7:33 PM, Philip Williamson  
> wrote:
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> My pictures are on the Instagram. 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B0PWPSJlEHo/?igshid=12lqfj2u8ocgb 
> The most recent sets are semi-narrative, but there are some random ones from 
> the weekend earlier in the thread. 
> 
> Also, I turned the RBWXXV patches back on in the Etsy shop, if anyone missed 
> out. https://etsy.me/2SyXP7j
> I didn’t want to over-book at the campout, and I’ve saved some for Rivendell 
> staff. 
> 
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA 
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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW at 25: The Fellowship of the Rigs

[Justin August]

A couple of us are meeting at Bicycle coffee at 10 and ferrying over to SF then 
Larkspur if you want to join!

Text me
3042666720

> On Jul 19, 2019, at 3:54 PM, christian poppell  wrote:
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> If anyone is riding from the East Bay tomorrow morning I’d be down to meet up 
> and ride together! I’m planning on catching the first BART train over. See 
> you all tomorrow!
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW at 25: The Fellowship of the Rigs

[Justin August]

Sounds good!
Joe you’re also in charge Friday night with Philip and Esteban. 

> On Jul 17, 2019, at 10:10 AM, Joe Bunik  wrote:
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> Oh heck yes!!! Gonna be fun, Dave (and all)!
> See you there FRI midday.
> 
> =- Joe Bunik
> Walnut Creek, CA
> 
>> On 7/17/19, dstein  wrote:
>> My 20% is now 90%, I got a hall pass...so pending any last minute hiccups I
>> 
>> plan on being there around 7pm saturday and leaving sunday moring. Just
>> enough time to eat and hang out, but will miss any saturday rides.
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 4:57:56 PM UTC-7, dstein wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wish I could make it, sounds awesome. Maybe on Saturday night but
>>> unlikely, I give it a 20% chance, gotta take off on a 10 day work trip to
>>> 
>>> Asia the following Tuesday and should probably spend time w/ the family.
>>> If
>>> I ever get out of this international weekend travel grind i'll make it up
>>> 
>>> by organizing another campout.
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] RBW XXV WHO’S COMING

[Justin August]

That’s up to folks who offer up rides!

I know recreating the Tour de Fromage was floated on a recent ride with Phil, 
Manny and Jenny Oh have verbally said they’d Co-lead a ride. Im just the 
vehicle for the camp site and such.



Justin
On Apr 1, 2019, 5:29 PM -0700, Pancake , wrote:
> Probably just for one night, but really hope I can ride over from Napa (46 
> miles, 2,200 elevation, good food on the way). Registered.
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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW XXV WHO’S COMING

[Justin August]

Free n easy with a donation jar to cover the cost of the campground. I know 
some folks are planning rides.

Justin
On Mar 31, 2019, 9:39 PM -0700, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA , 
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> Justin,
>
> Thanks for setting this up! Can you please remind me and confirm that it's 
> free-n-easy, correct? Meaning one can come and go within the Fri-Sun window, 
> correct? Do you have any activities planned? I'm probably going to apply the 
> S24O strategy due to other constraints.
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> On Friday, March 29, 2019 at 11:57:58 AM UTC-7, Justin, Oakland wrote:
> > RIV 25th ANNIVERSARY WHO'S COMING
> > http://rbwxxv.eventbrite.com
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[RBW] RBW XXV WHO’S COMING

[Justin August]

RIV 25th ANNIVERSARY WHO'S COMING
http://rbwxxv.eventbrite.com



Justin

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[RBW] What’s your winter (re)build?

[Justin August]

As we emerge from “Winter” here in the Bay Area I got to take my Saluki out 
yesterday (as posted in the post yr Riv thread). I thought it would be 
interesting to see how folks have decided to change their builds over the 
winter as often happens.

Salukid: my upright but not uptight kid hauler.
Something I LOVE about this frame as a kid hauler is the ability to mount from 
behind the saddle due to the combination of low bottom bracket and slacker seat 
tube angle.
Build list:
Widest Bosco Bars (58cm?) + 12cm Nitto Stem + Ergon Grips
Thule Kid seat
Paul Levers + Brakes + Moon Units
Microshift shifter (10 sp indexed) + XT Derailleur on a road link shifting 
11-40 cassette
Shimano Crank with 34t + S⁄lver chainguard + VO Sabot pedals
GOLD CHAIN
Trusty Brooks B17 select + Nitto 83 + Paul Blue Balls just for fun
Widefoot liter cage + voile strap + King Kage Iris. “Free to me” SIP water 
bottle + Radavist bottle
Oldie but goodies Shimano LX Hubs to Synergy Rims + Paul Rasta Skewers + WTB 
Byways
Bruce Gordon Rear Rack + Rawland Demi-porteur front rack
Carradice Bag with random straps + Safety Pizza + Donut Sacks DONUT KILL ME 
strap
Rose gold bell because my daughter loves to ring it while we ride!


Justin

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[RBW] Balance Bikes for Bouncing Babies

[Justin August]

Hey folks-
I want to look at a balance bike for my daughter. Lots of choices out there and 
want to get one that can grow with her for a reasonably long amount of time. 
It’d be nice to be able to have the same bike transition with her to be able to 
ride a bit on the dirt since we have great flat-ish areas in the dirt to 
practice here.

 Any thoughts on brands or models?
How old were they and how long had your kid been walking before going to a 
balance bike?
Any tips?

Justin

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[RBW] Ethics Question

[Justin August]

Serious issue here and I need guidance.

My wife’s Betty Foy has a beautiful Suntour XC crank on it. My Saluki has a 
beautiful but more industrial 80s Shimano crank on it.

Is it ethical to pillage her Foy for the crank?

Justin

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[RBW] FotR: Group campsites got

['Justin August' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hey folks-
I have been able to secure the Devil’s Gulch group campsites in samuel P taylor 
Park for the weekend of July 17-20!

We’ll hash out more details later and I know it’s not the Madrone Group 
campground but if we want that then we’ll have to do the gathering later and 
I’ll need some assistance at 12:01am to get it!

Justin

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[RBW] Fall cleaning sale

[Justin August]

Hey folks:
I made a Flickr album to sell stuff from my garage. Click over there to see 
prices and stuff. Everything is priced before shipping. If shipping we’ll pay 
item cost up front and shipping cost after it goes out. I can ship on Monday, 
Tuesday and Thursday only.

https://flickr.com/photos/86714991@N00/sets/72157702457068965

Thanks!
Justin

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: Lennard Zinn documents heart problem

[Justin August]

Ironic tangent with this:
I digest bread prettty well. No serious issues. UNTIL I take probiotics. If I 
am taking probiotics then bread causes me the type of distress that you 
wouldn’t wish upon your greatest enemy. Confusing for sure.

-J

On Feb 15, 2018, 8:41 AM -0800, Grant @ Rivendell , wrote:
> When society, opinion, fads, latest/greatest, and moralistic issues weigh in 
> on diets, there aren't any clear winners. The filter, it seems like, ought to 
> be your own digestive system ("chapters" no. 84, 85 in EBDJ). People and 
> sometimes their pets are the only animals that don't.
>
> On Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 11:07:54 AM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
> > While many in this group are not into training, racing or other extreme 
> > forms of cycling, this article is good information and may serve as a 
> > cautionary tale for someone you know:
> >
> > http://www.velonews.com/2018/02/bikes-and-tech/technical-faq/technical-faq-no-burning-haywire-heart_456565
> >
> > This goes back to "too much exercise may not be good for you".  Lennard 
> > does an excellent job of explaining a complex subject and relating his own 
> > experiences.  I've been down the path of drugs, cardioversion, ablations, 
> > pacemaker, different drugs, etc.  While I've never been a trained athlete, 
> > nor competed in any serious way, it's entirely possible that years of the 
> > "more is better" syndrome was contributory.
> >
> > Especially relevant is how he has had to adjust his riding activities to 
> > deal with his current reality.  It's a bit long & somewhat technical, but 
> > definitely worth the time and attention.
> >
> > Doug Peterson
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Re: [RBW] Re: I'll be at Riv and need some suggestions about the local area

[Justin August]

Do not call it SF. Only call it Frisco if you grew up there.

-J

On Feb 13, 2018, 7:12 AM -0800, John A. Bennett , wrote:
> San Francisco
>
> Hit:
>
> Golden Gate Park.
> Valencia Street.
> Stockton Street (the real Chinatown; skip Grant Avenue).
> City Lights Books in North Beach.
> Coit Tower (for the view from the parking lot) and North Beach
> Golden Gate Bridge, & Fort Point
> Land's End (Sutro Baths, etc.)
> The Embarcadero (good on a bike or walking, bad for driving)
>
> Skip: Fisherman's Wharf, Ghirardelli Square, The Cannery
>
> John, SF (1980-2012)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 5:14:58 PM UTC-8, REC wrote:
> > If this is too off topic, I'm sure the moderator will delete.  I know a lot 
> > of you live in the area and would love your input.
> >
> > Since I'll be flying from PA to S. CA at the end of the month for business, 
> > I decided to stop in San Francisco to visit Rivendell.  I'll be arriving on 
> > a Sunday about noon, and leaving Tuesday, probably on a 5pm flight out. 
> > I'll be flying into SFO, and I can fly out of either SFO or Oakland 
> > airport, whichever makes most sense with my schedule.  I'll be renting a 
> > car, because I'll need it for some of the trip, but I have no issues using 
> > BART when that is more practical.  I'll be staying in Emeryville and that 
> > would be my first stop, so I could drop off my bags.
> >
> > I'm planning on visiting Golden Gate Park (conservancy of flowers, Art 
> > Museum) , take a walk in Muir Woods, perhaps Alcatraz, Fisherman's Wharf, 
> > and visit Rivendell.  My tastes are more toward nature and museums, but I 
> > love the get a feel of the area, so I'd probably just want to "walk around" 
> > but I'm not sure where.  I'm open to all suggestions on what to see, when 
> > to see it, and how to maximize my time.
> >
> > So, with two half days and one full day, are there any suggestions on how 
> > to split my time, especially when it comes to potentially getting caught in 
> > traffic?   Perhaps Muir Woods on Sunday, SF on Monday?  What is the traffic 
> > like--would SF be better on a Sunday (or twice)?  I figure 1/2 day at Riv 
> > for the drive up and back and "visit." or should I see what Walnut Creek 
> > has to offer?    It's probably been 25 years since I've been to SF area.
> >
> > And, no, I won't be doing any biking.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Roberta
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Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

[Justin August]

Where does this leave Cinelli Pope handlebars?
What about the later copies with revisions? Are they Episcopal bars?
Are Jones bars more aptly named Mormon bars for their quintessentially American 
origin?
Are track drops on a Pistachio Buddhist bars? Or would that be chopped off 
drops into bullhorns - ridding yourself of all that is not necessary and 
embracing suffering?

So many deep questions.

-J

On Feb 7, 2018, 8:41 AM -0800, Edwin W , wrote:
> Close this thread now! Before all hell (haha) breaks out.
>
> Edwin
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Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

[Justin August]

I can’t imagine anything more ludicrous.

On Feb 6, 2018, 7:29 PM -0800, Steve Palincsar , wrote:
> Rein in a Monty Python reference because of alleged Catholic sensitivities?  
> I should hope not.
>
> On 02/06/2018 10:13 PM, Philip Williamson wrote:
> > Aren't you the guy who took umbrage at being told the term "ghetto 
> > tubeless" could offend people?
> >
> > I'll reign in the Monty Python "Spanish Inquisition" references in future, 
> > out of deference to my Catholic friends. I reserve a future "CAKE OR DEATH" 
> > reference, though. as an homage to my crossdresser friends.
> >
> > Philip (atheist, thanks for asking)
> > Santa Rosa, CA
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 2:48:36 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
> > > Do your own research, but the Spanish inquisition may not be what most 
> > > people have been taught. At the risk of pointing out “fake history,” 
> > > (jwhich as a Catholic I very much wish to point out) the Spanish 
> > > Inquisition isn’t what most people think. So “No one expects the Spanish 
> > > Inquisition” is a fine sentement, but a gross omission of facts in 
> > > history (namely that the Catholic inquisitors treatment of suspected 
> > > Protistants was less severe in quantity and quality than Protestant 
> > > equivilants’ treatment of Catholics across the globe, including Spain. 
> > > (Even the Wikipedia article aludes to this possibility).
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Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

[Justin August]

Does Argo Cargo bike not fit your #1?

https://argobikes.com

-J

On Feb 3, 2018, 6:42 PM -0800, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles 
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> Wish list:
>
> 1. Clem style modular bakfiets attachment. Drop your fork, plug in your cargo 
> front end w/ 20" wheel & front brake cable ready to go Room for 2.5" 
> tires.
>
> 2. 650b (26 for smalls) Homer on steroids with light tubing, canti, room for 
> 2.0's & fenders I'd love a 63cm c-t level top tube size. Production MUSA,no 
> custom wait, pre order is fine.
>
> 3. Replacement forks!! 1" forks are rare as hens teeth. I'd happily pay $250.
>
> 4. Limited edition Charlie Cunningham inspired something
>
> 5. Way too niche but I'll put it here anyway. Raleigh DL-1/Tourist geometry 
> with modern everything else.
>
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> Rochester, NY
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Re: [RBW] What type of bike would make you buy another riv

[Justin August]

It seems as if several people have said they would basically buy a version of a 
Riv that exists BUT WITH X. As long as that X isn’t disc brakes then you can do 
it. Just pay for a custom and keep them in cash flow!

-J

On Feb 3, 2018, 10:29 AM -0800, Jeff Lesperance , 
wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 11:53 AM, Eric Daume  wrote:
> > > Jeff,
> > >
> > > Aside from the discs, how does the Space Horse compare to the Sam?
> > >
> >
> > I'm not a good student of how and why all of the possible bike geometry 
> > variables can inform actual and perceived comfort and performance on a 
> > bike, but there's something about the Sam (I think mine was second gen, 
> > when they still came in 60cm sizing) in how it felt and rode that I've not 
> > felt repeated on any other bike I've owned, including the other Riv's - 
> > there was some magic in it for me, my size and shape, and athletic 
> > capabilities.
> >
> > That said, the Space Horse is a stellar bike that has made me happy over 
> > many miles over various distances and terrain. It rides well unloaded and 
> > under load, and forgives long days under a exuberant or tired rider. It's a 
> > great bike, but it's lacking that Sam Hillborne magic, that you would never 
> > accuse it of lacking, if you'd not synced up with a Sam like I did. I've no 
> > regrets, but I'd also happily test a disc-braked Sam if it ever came into 
> > existence.
> >
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Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

[Justin August]

This episode also furthers the need to register your bikes with BikeIndex.org

I hope the bike gets home and I hope that all is resolved without hard feelings 
or martial intervention.
-J

On Feb 2, 2018, 4:09 PM -0800, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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> But spreading the word is the whole point. It just so happens that apparently 
> the RBW Owners Bunch is chock full of internet litigators.
>
> Sure, life is full of gray areas. Operating on the motivational principle, if 
> you catch some kid stealing sunglasses from your store, and he tells you he 
> is going to pawn it so he can have money to eat, maybe you give him a lecture 
> and let him go. Or maybe he smirks and kicks you in the shin and you decide 
> to call the police. Either way,  as the property owner, it's your call. This 
> situation is different--not his property, and already there is a procedure in 
> place to handle this exact event.
>
> I would tend to trust your judgment regarding this cl guy and the Riv bike, 
> and think there is no reason to doubt the guy is sincere and on the up and 
> up. But do you really want people running around Portland rescuing abandoned 
> bicycles? I don't think the guy should be arrested, but he should probably be 
> advised to get the bike to the police or the agency responsible for abandoned 
> bikes asap.
>
> On Friday, February 2, 2018 at 6:30:06 PM UTC-5, John at Rivelo wrote:
> > Hi, I'm the guy that posted this in the first place.
> >
> > I have exchanged emails with the Craiglist poster. I have a report from 
> > someone in the neighborhood who spoke with him in person.
> >
> > He has reposted the ad. He has asked me on more than one occasion if I've 
> > had any luck on my end tracking down the owner. (I haven't.)
> >
> > Honestly, I feel kinda' bad now about even mentioning this, considering 
> > that I think the guy is on the up-and-up. Would I have done it
> > exactly the same way? Maybe not. But in every exchange I've had with him, 
> > he comes across as 100% genuine.
> >
> > I tend to skew more toward the "motivation" end of things, both here and in 
> > life, in general. Nothing I've heard from the CL poster - or the guy
> > in the neighborhood who talked to him - leads me to think that his 
> > motivation is anything less than sincere. I don't believe he has any 
> > intention
> > of keeping the bike, or is living in hopes that the owner won't resurface. 
> > He appears to me to really want to find the rightful owner of the Hillborne.
> >
> > John in Portland at Rivelo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Friday, February 2, 2018 at 3:04:55 PM UTC-8, Bill Schairer wrote:
> > > I read a thread on crazyguyonabike not long ago by a couple whose tandem 
> > > was stolen in New Orleans (I think) while they were eating lunch on their 
> > > cross country tour.  The bike was rather immediately purchased by a good 
> > > samaritan, knowing it was stolen, for a song.  Amazingly, he found the 
> > > true owner’s name and phone number stuffed in the handlebars or seatpost 
> > > (something like that) and was able to reunite the bike with the owner and 
> > > they were able to complete their tour relatively uninterupted if I 
> > > remember correctly.  I keep thinking I need to stash my name and number 
> > > in my bikes in several places but I’ve never got around to it.
> > >
> > > That aside, I guess I do see a difference in the two actions even if 
> > > technically there is no difference.  No way, no how is that tandem 
> > > getting back to the owner unless a good samaritan takes that action.  No 
> > > way, no how is the bike in Portland getting back to its rightful owner 
> > > BECAUSE of the “good samaritan’s” action.  If I’m the owner of the 
> > > tandem, I’m thanking the guy who purchased my tandem.  If I’m the owner 
> > > of the bike in Portland, I’m wondering who the hell are you stealing my 
> > > bike?  Big difference in my mind even if both actions are legally wrong.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

[Justin August]

As in the rest of life - intentions don’t matter, impact does. The impact is 
that someone has now definitely had their bike stolen.

-J

On Feb 2, 2018, 1:40 PM -0800, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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> Bill Lindsay wrote: The innocence of our Craigslist angel is established 
> completely by us believing his story about his intent.  It's just a variant 
> of the "I was just borrowing it" defense.  That defense is valid if we 
> believe it, and is invalid if we don't.
>
> In this case I would argue it matters not at all whether the guy has good 
> intentions; that is not a legitimate defense. Even if we may sympathize with 
> his motive, it does not make his actions valid or him innocent of breaking 
> the law. It's just vigilantism, plain and simple. Private citizens can't go 
> making this kind of decision, because, chaos, eventually.
>
> Also, apologies to Jon, I did not see his script. Great minds, etc.
>
> Here is the form Marty was referencing. You can find it easily by googling 
> Portland abandoned bicycle. 
> https://www.portlandoregon.gov/transportation/73379
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Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

[Justin August]

I skapprove if Bill’s armchair lawyer assessment and of his lawyer friend’s 
assessment. My car once got a sticker and boot on it because it was parked 
across the street from my apartment for over 72 hours. That neighbor was a 
particularly picky person who felt they “owned” the space and used the letter 
of the law to violate the spirit of it by reporting a car “left in a single 
location for longer than 72 hours.”

There are many ways to address the issue of a bike you think may have been left 
that happen before you cut someone’s lock, many of which have been outlined 
here.

-Justin, skanking in the pit/pediatric wing of KP

On Feb 2, 2018, 10:24 AM -0800, Bill Lindsay , wrote:
> Justin approves and disapproves, as is his right.  I think this guy in PDX 
> sounds like a guardian angel, and I hope deep in my soul that this story has 
> a happy ending and turns out to be victimless.  If something of mine got 
> stolen I'd rather it be safe and warm in a nice guys house where I "might" 
> find it, rather than abandoned locked on a pole for weeks.
>
> That said, I'm not comfortable with the notion of individuals in a civilized 
> society deciding arbitrarily when it is OK for them to take property that 
> isn't theirs without consent.  The innocence of our Craigslist angel is 
> established completely by us believing his story about his intent.  It's just 
> a variant of the "I was just borrowing it" defense.  That defense is valid if 
> we believe it, and is invalid if we don't.
>
> I don't have an answer, or a conclusion.  I even asked my lawyer friends 
> about it.  They all (well 2 of 2) think the Craigslist angel should be 
> charged with a crime.
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Friday, February 2, 2018 at 9:14:46 AM UTC-8, Justin, Oakland wrote:
> > Bill-
> > I approve of your Ska-inclusiveness but disapprove of your ska-analogy.
> > See you in the pit,
> > Justin
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Re: [RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

[Justin August]

To each their own. The reality is that you use your first.last name@gmail email 
address to send to the group which can be obtained fairly easily. And the 
people who are really profiting off of linking up all that information already 
are doing so by using their servers and services.

-J

On Feb 1, 2018, 12:57 PM -0800, EasyRider , wrote:
> Hi Norman, I'd just rather limit the ability of strangers to link information 
> gleaned from my random bloviations in a google group to other little bits and 
> scraps of information about me from elsewhere.
>
> On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 2:42:00 PM UTC-5, Norman Bone wrote:
> > ER-
> > I'm honestly curious. An 'easy target' for what? I'm having a hard time 
> > imagining harm coming from what I post here.
> >
> > Thanks-
> > -Norman 'Mostly a good apple' Bone in Portland, OR
> >
> >
> > From: EasyRider 
> > To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> > Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 11:17 AM
> > Subject: [RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?
> >
> > I'd like to use my actual name but this isn't a 1990s listserv, it's a 
> > publicly searchable group. I'm not famous, or a public figure, or a 
> > teacher. I'd just rather not be an easy target for bad apples with basic 
> > keyword search abilities. That's why I "hide" behind a handle, not because 
> > I want to be an anonymous jerk to other RBW owners here.
> >
> > On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 8:34:38 PM UTC-5, Bob K. wrote:
> > > My middle school students Google my name all the time—like, constantly. 
> > > They don’t need to be able to find anything else. Hence the last initial.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bob K. in Baltimore
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Re: [RBW] Are you using your real name on here?

[Justin August]

Originator of the 5 Finger Discount!

On Feb 1, 2018, 9:37 AM -0800, Joe Bernard , wrote:
> My last name is 5 Fingers. Joe Bernard 5 Fingers, that's me.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

[Justin August]

Real hometown or real location or real residence?

Justin, in Oakland sitting at 37.776947, -122.197052 by way of Ravenswood, WV 
(and many in betwixt the two).

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> Steve Sweedler
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> > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 4:58 PM Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
> > > Toshi AKA Inigo Montoya.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

[Justin August]

Agreed.
My brother died suddenly six years ago. I had some people respond similarly to 
Christopher when I wasn’t able to complete some reviews on the website I wrote 
for at the time. They subsequently were reprimanded by their bosses and 
blackballed by some news sites for their behavior (not at my request). Not a 
pretty situation but insensitivity and entitlement is pretty ugly.

Rule one of life: don’t be a jerk. If someone else tells you that you came off 
like a jerk then own that you caused someone else to feel that way, self 
examine and move on. No one is saying you are an across the board horrid human. 
You messed up. You own. You make amends. You move on.

Easy.

-Justin

On Jan 5, 2018, 5:25 PM -0800, Joe Bernard , wrote:
> I'm sick of this stupid new world we live in where truth is whatever we say 
> it is, and a thoughtless comment is just another POV. Sorry, sometimes saying 
> the wrong thing is just wrong.
>
> Two years ago my friend - only 38-years-old - was diagnosed with Stage 3B 
> colon cancer. She immediately went into surgery, followed by 6 months of 
> chemotherapy. She's better now, but it brought everything in her life to a 
> halt for a while, and remains a life-changing event. Do the math.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Discs versus calipers

[Justin August]

Love my disc brakes. Low level Deore Shimano hydros. I’ve never done anything 
to them except change the pads - they came on the bike and I’ve swapped bars 
and wheelsizes and forks an never had an issue. Definitely the best brakes for 
any sort of “terrain” riding. I’m very happy the hydros came with the bike. 
Otherwise I’d have gone down the rabbit hole of mechanicals and finding “the 
best” ones. These are great and while I might choose Klampers on a more road or 
touring focused bike I’m not there yet.

-Justin

On Dec 27, 2017, 12:57 PM -0800, Eric Norris , wrote:
> I don’t have any disk-equipped bikes. I rode one a few times before deciding 
> not to buy it (for reasons that had nothing to do with the brakes.)
>
> One downside that would affect me is that the wheels would not interchange 
> with any of my existing bikes. I can move around wheels in my existing stable 
> a bit (I have 120mm, 126mm, and 130mm-spaced bikes with speeds between 5 and 
> 9), but the disk wheels wouldn’t work on any of my existing bikes.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyonly...@me.com
> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>
> > On Dec 27, 2017, at 12:51 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:
> >
> > I think hydraulic disc brakes would address most of your concerns:
> >
> > - the pads basically stay centered, so wheel removal is easy
> >
> > - once they're set up, maintenance basically involves changing the pads 
> > when needed (this takes about one minute). Yes, I guess you could bleed 
> > them every year, but so far I haven't seen the need.
> >
> > - strong, progressive, etc.
> >
> > I bought some TRP Spykes, hoping that with their dual pad actuation they 
> > would be as good as my mid level Shimano hydraulics. They're nice, but the 
> > hydraulics just feel so much better. Sometimes I find myself braking just 
> > to enjoy the feeling of braking, which is pretty silly.
> >
> > That being said, I really like V brakes as well, especially if I'm changing 
> > cockpit around quite a bit.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > > On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 1:41 PM, William!  
> > > wrote:
> > > > Apologies for resurrecting such a stale thread with a giant post, 
> > > > please feel free to ignore while I add yet another two cents to the 
> > > > discussion…
> > > >
> > > > The reason I've always been attracted to Rivendell bikes is their 
> > > > resistance to the general trend of making bikes more complicated then 
> > > > they need to be. So much of "progress" with bikes (and with stuff in 
> > > > general) is about applying technology for technology's sake, making 
> > > > bikes complicated, expensive and generally worse to ride in the name of 
> > > > performance or "efficiency" or whatever. Before I discovered Rivendell, 
> > > > I mostly built and rode old bikes for this reason. But of course, not 
> > > > all new technology is bad. Sometimes new technologies come along and 
> > > > they really do make riding better. My general rule of thumb is, it's 
> > > > better if it makes things simpler.
> > > >
> > > > For me the perfect example is riding with dynamos wheels. They are 
> > > > new-fangled, technically more complicated, more advanced. And you do 
> > > > deal with some extra complexity during your wheel/bike build. But after 
> > > > that, you never have to worry about your lights again. For folks that 
> > > > ride at night, a bike with generator lights is far simpler. It feels 
> > > > freeing, it feels like less to worry about, the way a bike is supposed 
> > > > to feel. I sometimes wish dynamo hubs were easier to take apart and 
> > > > service, but in practice they last plenty long and like most sealed 
> > > > hubs the bearings rarely fail.
> > > >
> > > > So what about disc brakes? I've owned bikes with disc brakes before, 
> > > > but they were always special purpose bikes like tandems or cargo bikes 
> > > > that needed tons of stopping power. I was never happy with how fussy 
> > > > they seemed, but I did like how well they worked in the rain. They 
> > > > seemed like they primarily belonged on special purpose bikes, and I 
> > > > never considered putting them on my daily driver.  It seemed like disc 
> > > > brake technology, driven by racers and extreme mountain bikers, were 
> > > > chasing things I didn't care about: theoretical stopping power and 
> > > > "modulation", weight savings, etc. Meanwhile, they were ignoring things 
> > > > I did care about by heedlessly making bikes more complex: lines to 
> > > > bleed, new tools to own, and an insane parade of new frame and hub 
> > > > "innovations" that promised obsolescence was just around the corner.
> > > >
> > > > A few things convinced me to put disc brakes on my "normal" bike. One, 
> > > > I was in a wreck where stopping distance was the primary factor in me 
> > > > walking away OK. I knew that in the rain with cantilever brakes the 
> > > > result would have been different (which isn't to say disc brakes 

Re: [RBW] Spitballing: Hunqabeam fixed conversion ideas

[Justin August]

BMC Monstercross but it’s not specifically SS.

-J

On Dec 14, 2017, 10:15 AM -0800, Bill Lindsay , wrote:
> Is there any "good" production bicycle available on planet Earth that is:
>
> 1.  Designed specifically to be a single speed
> 2.  Designed with forward facing rear dropouts
>
> The only bikes I know of that are designed to be single speed and designed 
> with forward facing rear dropouts are beach cruisers.  Are there any 'good' 
> bikes designed that way?
>
> I approve of Deacon Patrick's general plan to trust Riv and trust Nobilette.  
> I also approve of DP's specific plan to run QB-style track ends.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, December 14, 2017 at 2:48:24 AM UTC-8, Eric Daume wrote:
> > My Karate Monkey has rear facing track ends. Changing the wheel ranges from 
> > a hassle (single speed) to very frustrating (geared) to probably howling 
> > anger (gears + fenders, though I've never used this setup). On the KM, it's 
> > sort of worthwhile for the short chainstays. That's not a concern on the 
> > Hunq.
> >
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:37 PM, Philip Williamson 
> > >  wrote:
> > > > I can see that if the stays allow the room to exit fat tires easily, 
> > > > then there’s no downside to front facing dropouts over rear facing 
> > > > track ends (my bike does not, so I’m biased). What are the downsides of 
> > > > rear facing track ends with fat tires? I’ve never encountered any.
> > > >
> > > > Philip
> > > > Santa Rosa, CA
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Re: [RBW] Spitballing: Hunqabeam fixed conversion ideas

[Justin August]

I’m impressed at your commitment to the fixed lifestyle and going all in with 
no derailleur option.

-Justin

On Dec 14, 2017, 9:40 AM -0800, Deacon Patrick , wrote:
> “Resale value to consider.” You lot are FUNNY! Grin.
>
> Talked with Mark Nobilette. Rear facing dropouts are stronger and he’s going 
> to make them longer (old style), so I’m going with them despite the horror it 
> will cause here. Feel free to ruminate among yourselves. Grin.
>
> I’ve never had an issue with the rear facing drop outs of the Quickbeam and 
> found them easy and convienent, both freewheel and fixed (of course there is 
> a learning curve to “shifting” fixed, but that is true no matter the 
> direction of the dropouts). My guess is anyone daft enough to ride fixed on a 
> loaded Hunqabeam will feel the same way. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Spitballing: Hunqabeam fixed conversion ideas

[Justin August]

Can you/could you/should you try to put something like paragon sliders or 
rockers there?

-J

On Dec 13, 2017, 8:37 PM -0800, Philip Williamson 
, wrote:
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> there’s no downside to front facing dropouts over rear facing track ends (my 
> bike does not, so I’m biased). What are the downsides of rear facing track 
> ends with fat tires? I’ve never encountered any.
>
> Philip
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Gear Snow Ride

[Justin August]

Did you already explore this Phil bottom bracket?
http://www.philwood.com/products/bbpages/philcentric.php

On Dec 9, 2017, 7:41 PM -0800, Deacon Patrick , wrote:
> True, Doug. Requires a larger bottom bracket shell, though.
>
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Re: [RBW] Spitballing: Hunqabeam fixed conversion ideas

[Justin August]

Just get a White industries. I think they sell huge free wheels.

-J

On Nov 28, 2017, 5:40 PM -0800, David B , wrote:
> That’s what I was thinking. Dismantle a multi speed freewheel and make a 
> single cog freewheel with a large cog. Could likely figure gearing without 
> having to mess with chain length.
> David
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 6:34:34 PM UTC-6, Justin, Oakland wrote:
> > I wonder if it makes more sense to have the 30” gear as a freewheel in the 
> > other side. If you’re going to bail why not bail hard?
> >
> >
> > -J
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

[Justin August]

These bikes are so awesome. That is perfect.

Arg! I want.

-J

On Sep 1, 2017, 10:00 AM -0700, Bill Lindsay , wrote:
> I have in reserve a sapphire blue Flite saddle from ~1997, and I thought 
> about running that to tie in with the Shopsack.  With a Flite saddle on it, I 
> imagine I could get an even higher PMAQ (Patrick Moore Approval Quotient).  
> If this Niner generic saddle isn't perfect, then I'll switch to the Flite or 
> a Black B-17 that is also on-hand.
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 9:55:05 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
> > Thanks you. I could ride one of those!
> >
> > > On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Patrick Moore very politely requested final build photos.  Nothing is 
> > > > ever "final", of course, but here we are.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Frameset: Rosco Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte.  54cm center to top of 
> > > > seat lug. 59.2cm effective top tube.  Appaloosa 650B fork.  IRD headset.
> > > >
> > > > Wheelset:  Shimano Deore XT Parallax M-737 hubs, 32 hole, converted to 
> > > > bolt-on Cro-mo axles.  Velocity Synergy rims, custom powdercoated with 
> > > > HALO retroreflective coating.  Duro Miner 52mm tires.  Tubes.
> > > >
> > > > Drivetrain:  XTR M985 crankset and BB.  172.5mm arms.  44/30 
> > > > chainrings.  Shimano CX70 front der.  Deore XT M786 rear der.  SRAM 
> > > > 1071 chains (2).  Microshift 10sp index barcons.  11-36 Deore 10sp 
> > > > cassette.  SPD pedals
> > > >
> > > > Components:  Tektro CR720 brakes.  SRAM S500 brakelevers.  Nitto lugged 
> > > > stem and 46cm Noodle bars.  Kalloy seatpost.  Niner saddle.  Nitto rear 
> > > > hanger.  Tektro crown-mount front hanger.  Reflective brake housing.
> > > >
> > > > Accessories:  Simworks front rack, Wald basket, Sapphire Shopsack.  Two 
> > > > King Cages (one Iris).  Lots of Newbaums (orange, grey, and celeste)  + 
> > > > two coats of clear Bullseye shellac.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > When the second coat of shellac dries I'll get to ride it around the 
> > > > block.  It turned out exactly like I planned, which is nice.
> > > >
> > > > Bill Lindsay
> > > > El Cerrito, CA
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 6:48:00 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
> > > > > Nice setup so far. Be sure to post final build photos (please).
> > > > >
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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki Links

[Justin August]

Who has aluminum fenders on theirs with 42mm tires and what do you use?

On Aug 7, 2017, 5:57 PM -0700, Michael Hechmer , wrote:
> I'm late to this discussion and have not been able to follow all of the 
> rather cryptic postings, but.  I have an early, canti, grey Saluki which, 
> over time has become my most ridden bike.  It's just so comfortable, so 
> versatile, so ...perfect.  I have a soft spot in my heart for my Rambouilet, 
> but the Saluki guides over so much bad road with ease.  I currently run 38's 
> but intend to go with Compass 41s under VO fenders.
>
> Michael
>
> On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 7:50:32 PM UTC-4, KenP wrote:
> > Hi John,
> >    I had an early 50 canti Saluki, but found it too small; then sold it and 
> > got a 54 sidepull Saluki;  My pbh 79.5; the 54 fits better.  I liked the 
> > cantilever brakes better though because they stopped better and opened 
> > easier. And I like the 650B wheel size.  However these days I'm beginning 
> > to like bikes with wider tires for the local trails.
> > Ken,
> > Virginia
> >
> > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 6:28:16 PM UTC-4, John Hawrylak wrote:
> > > Does any one have any links to the RBW literature on the early 
> > > Saluki's???  looking at the 54cm on Seattle CL, since it is my size.
> > >
> > > I know the Saluki's transformed into the 650B AHHs, but there seems to be 
> > > subtle differences.
> > >
> > > I thought there were links on Cyclofiend's site, but have not located them
> > >
> > >
> > > John Hawrylak
> > > Woodstown NJ
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Re: [RBW] N minus 2 plus 1

[Justin August]

If you aren't wed to wheelsize you should also think about the frame angles. 
Me, I'd look at what's available in fat 650b rubber.

-J

On Aug 6, 2017, 8:45 AM -0700, DaveS , wrote:
> Thanks everyone for the thoughts. Indeed the Fargo and Troll are for sale.
>
> Bill I am curious why you suggested the Sam or AHH instead of the Roadini, as 
> I am starting to think that 33's are a little small for a wide man..even 
> given Riv's assurance that it will be fine.the mental me has me riding 
> some New England fall brevets with the Roadini and being wildly fast while 
> the other me reminds that me that I am not a racer...which makes the Sam 
> the one
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini!

[Justin August]

I don't remember. There was at least one shorter than me but I don't think it 
was built up at that time.

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> Did they have all sizes, 50 in particular, ready for demo, Justin? Forgot to 
> call today.
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Re: [RBW] Brake Adjustment: Paul Racers vs. Cantilevers

[Justin August]

I'm definitely curious about a non-biased head to head for the Compass vs 
Paul's. My 1 year plan for my Saluki includes a repaint and braze ons for 
brakes.

-J

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Re: [RBW] Bike computer

[Justin August]

Most of the time I stash it in a stem sack/bartender. I just want to know what 
else is out there.

-J

On Jun 12, 2017, 2:57 PM -0700, Bill Lindsay , wrote:
> iPhone mounted to my handlebars?  yuck!  I toss it in my handlebar bag, or 
> wrap it in a bandanna in a jersey pocket.  That way there's nothing dumb to 
> distract me on my bars, so I can enjoy the ride, and then I can check my 
> mileage when I get home.
>
> If I get lost and need the GPS for directions, that's a good time to stop and 
> pay attention to the screen anyway.
>
> that's just me
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 2:42:19 PM UTC-7, Justin, Oakland wrote:
> > Related:
> > For those of us who may want to just use their iPhone for the few times we 
> > want a computer what case/mount would folks recommend?
> > -J
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

[Justin August]

The MAPs are different from the Jitensha. They have more rise and a longer grip 
area. Plus you can get them in a much wider width (that I have not tried). And 
they are rated OK for MTB use and do not have a sleeved grip area.

-Justin


On May 30, 2017, 12:04 PM -0700, jjss , wrote:
> I curious to know if anyone has experimented with both these bars or the 
> jinensha bars (are they exactly he same?) and the Choco-norm bars and have a 
> sense of how the would compare.  The Chocos would just be even more upright?
>
> On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 11:53:56 AM UTC-7, gordo wrote:
> > I second Justin's suggestion of the MAP/Ahearne bars.  I'm running them on 
> > my cruiser-ish Atlantis with Paul thumbies and they are perfect for 
> > commuting, rambles and short overnighters.  It also makes handling a 
> > typically overloaded front rack/basket very easy.
> >
> > - Eric in SF
> >
> > On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 9:43:27 AM UTC-7, Justin, Oakland wrote:
> > > Not to over judge your plan BUT...
> > > If you are building this up to be a "cruiser-ish" ride that your partner 
> > > can use on the weekends, I would not build your second bike to go 
> > > "faster" if you plan to ride together. It sounds like you ride more than 
> > > they do. I have found that you may be on the end of some bad feelings and 
> > > reluctance to ride if the plan is to ride these bikes together. Only 
> > > speaking from my experience but it's something to think about!
> > >
> > > Another option is to think about the MAP/Ahearne bar. I have it on my 
> > > Saluki and my wife's Betty Foy. It's cruiser-ish enough to go slow and 
> > > aggressive enough to dig in and go hard (and even offload!) when needed.
> > >
> > > -Justin, happily cycling with his partner in Oakland, CA
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 8:02:27 AM UTC-7, jjss wrote:
> > > > Ha.  Fair enough...  Realistically I will still ride it more than her.  
> > > > I'm moving by the beach so I want this set up as my day to day commuter 
> > > > and grocery bike that she can then ride on the weekends.  B/c I'll 
> > > > probably be figuring out another bike for myself with a "faster" setup, 
> > > > I like the idea of pushing this in the choco norm / albatross direction.
> > > >
> > > > Fair point about the shifting but I figure if all she ever knows is 
> > > > friction...
> > > >
> > > > On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 7:32:36 AM UTC-7, masmojo wrote:
> > > > > Well, I think you really need to decide who you are doing this for 
> > > > > first, because you say you GF is going to ride it, But seem to be 
> > > > > making choices based on what YOU like!?
> > > > > If it was for you I would second the Albastache recommendation, but 
> > > > > if it's for the GF, I'd go Albatross.  I've had both on my Atlantis 
> > > > > and while I prefer the stache, but if it was for someone who 
> > > > > apparently does not ride a lot the Albatross would be better.
> > > > > Along those lines, Silver shifters are great, but honestly some sort 
> > > > > of index shifter option might be better, depends a little on the GF.
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Re: [RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

[Justin August]

Drew-
While I tend to advocate for not buying new things, making what you have work, 
etc…
You could also:
Sell everything.
Buy a new 650b Atlantis
2 wheel sets:
1) 36hole Atlas Rims with 650b x 2.1 tires
2) 32hole Pacenti brevet rims with 650b x 42/48 tires (Compass EL)

Then you get a new bike, new wheels and the versatility that you desire.
-J

On May 30, 2017, 10:45 AM -0700, drew , wrote:

> All good advice. While i had considered a set of different tires, a totally 
> different wheelset+tires seems like it would do more to access the bike's 
> versatility in a convenient way. and then i'd have an excuse to experiment 
> with compass tires... interesting.
>
> In reality, the sam may be better suited to my actual needs, but i love the 
> hunq more, and i find that touring with a bike leaves me deeply sentimental 
> about our relationship and time together, even if it isnt the most practical 
> in non-touring times. Selling it, i fear, would be almost immediately 
> regrettable.
>
> ill try to answer some of the questions.
> -my roady friends aren't super roady, but a few have invested in nice carbon 
> or titanium bikes. when we ride, it isnt for speed or time, but i have felt 
> like im slowing them down.
> -i also have a 1985 trek 870, and a miyata mixte also a 91 stumpjumper 
> frame. none of them are essential or get ridden very much.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

[Justin August]

Chris-
Which Bantam built machine would you choose? Rambler or Adventure bike?



On May 30, 2017, 10:23 AM -0700, Pondero , wrote:
> I also like Justin's extra wheelset idea.  Brilliant!  The Hunq is versatile, 
> so why not take full advantage of it?  Sure, it is easier to grab a different 
> bike for a purpose, but changing out wheels is a relatively simple task.  I'm 
> convinced I could (if forced) to get down to a single bike, but I'd probably 
> beg for at least one extra wheelset.
>
> Chris Johnson
> Sanger, Texas
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[RBW] Beautiful Atlantis on EBay

[justin . august]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/382050555993

Not mine but wowza, that's a dream build.

Good deal for the BiN price IMO.

-Justin

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Re: [RBW] Guidonette levers on Choco?

[Justin August]

I would love to see pictures if you have them.

-J

On May 2, 2017, 1:18 PM -0700, WETH , wrote:
> Justin,
> I have them on albatross bars not Choco. https://flic.kr/p/MX1Vwv
> I like how they follow the curb of the bar so I can reach the brakes quickly 
> from several hand positions. However, the levers flex too much when you 
> squeeze them toward the ends. Only confident stopping power for me comes from 
> braking where the lever enters the bracket. I feel ambivalent about the 
> performance.
> Let me know if you want more photos.
> Best wishes,
> Erl
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Re: [RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Justin August]

Bill-
That's great advice that I'll give to my niece who's on a tour of colleges 
right now.

I also wish someone had told me that about bikes and dating. I just learned the 
hard way there as well.

-J

On Apr 12, 2017, 12:12 PM -0700, Bill Lindsay , wrote:
> This came up in conversation this last week. My son has started looking at 
> colleges. He's got plenty of time, so my main advice to him was that he is 
> not done looking until he visits at least one college that he doesn't like. 
> If they all seem great, keep looking. It's only when you figure out one that 
> you don't like that you have the context to make a better choice for what you 
> do like. That has always been my big-picture dating advice. Date at least 
> until you've dated one person that you don't want to marry. That was always 
> my bike shopping advice: new bikes all tend to be awesome. Test ride bikes at 
> least until you've ridden one bike that you don't want to buy.
>
> On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 11:50:47 AM UTC-7, Austin B wrote:
> > I totally get this and have been doing it the last couple years.
> >
> > Anyone need a 61cm Velo Orange Pass Hunter frameset?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 12:21:18 PM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
> > > Probably a lot. Would have been less had I spent my money on a wiser 
> > > choice from the get-go, but I also feel like I needed to go through all 
> > > the bikes to determine what I liked..
> > > > >
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Justin August]

The All-City Mr Pink looks great. If I could get one at a reasonable price with 
the old steelfork I'd be all over it.

-Justin

On Apr 10, 2017, 7:19 PM -0700, John G. , wrote:
> Austin, I'm in the same boat as you. I have a Smoothie with great parts that 
> never sees the road. I'm considering stripping it down and building up a 
> nicer, fast-ish bike. Have you looked at anything else aside from the Roadeo 
> and Roadini?
>
> On Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 8:07:25 AM UTC-4, Austin B wrote:
> > N=3 bikes and I'd need to do some negotiating to have my marriage sustain a 
> > 4th.
> >
> > 2016 Sam Hillborne (big blue 62cm with 2TT) - set up with Compass Bon Jon 
> > Pass for mostly road and occasional off-road day touring. Currently running 
> > Noodles but seriously giving thought to converting to an Albastache setup. 
> > And I'm looking for a decent, cheap rack to hold my panniers. This bike 
> > will be left to one of my two kids in my will (I'm in my 40's and don't 
> > expect this to happen for several decades BTW)
> > 1989 Bridgestone RB-1 - my speedy retro go-fast "modernized" with bar end 
> > shifters. This bike is fun and nimble. Will be left to my other kid who 
> > doesn't get the Hillborne in my will.
> > Soma Smoothie ES - modern STI drivetrain road setup with wider tires than 
> > the RB-1 as my lightweight comfort road bike. This bike hasn't seen the 
> > road in 2017. I'd transfer the ES components in a second to a 63cm Roadeo 
> > (or maybe the coming Roadini).
> >
> > Bob K--I live in Carroll County. Where around Baltimore do you take your 
> > HIllborne for forest roads & single track?
> >
> >
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Re: [RBW] Re: Opinions on saddlebags? Swift vs. Carradice vs. Sackville

[Justin August]

Then the Bagman breaks and

-Justin

On Apr 10, 2017, 7:00 PM -0700, Lee Legrand , wrote:
> Not to turn this is a carradice saddlebag discussion but the one thing I 
> notice is now they offer the bagman support for all their saddlebags. By 
> using thinner leather, they are not built to be hanged at the seat under load 
> but supported underneath using the bagman support and leather is there just 
> for lateral stability while riding.
>
> Just a hypothesis
>
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> > The leather on my Carradice is thin, dry and tears easily. If I had the 
> > gumption I'd replace it all with clips or rare earth magnets or toe clip 
> > cinch downs. It really puts a damper on an otherwise great bag.
> >
> > -Justin
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[RBW] Re: A quick trip to LA

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I got the Trico IronCase off of Craigslist. The buckles are busted and it needs 
some refurbishing but it's solid and has worked well. It is heavy tho!

-Justin

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

[Justin August]

To be fair: this price is not really rare or exclusive. If you check EBay 
you'll see that everyone who isn't a small online bike shop is selling them for 
below $50. 

However, when Riv has stock I shop from them if the price differential is less 
than 20% or so. But when it's literally 70% off? I don't know. 

-Justin, with 2 cents +/- 20%

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[RBW] OMG! Egg misguidance from Rivendell

[Justin August]

I learned how to do perfect hard cooked eggs and have never looked back. 
Boil water. 
Put eggs in steamer basket (not in the water) and steam with lid on for 12 
minutes. You can leave out or refrigerate immediately it's up to you. 

The way to get the shells to peel off best is by using eggs that are older. The 
pH changes and that is the major issue in shells adhering to the egg. 

Soft cooking would probably just mean changing the time to something lower like 
7 minutes of steaming. 

-Justin

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[RBW] Re: S24o Kit Evaluation

[Justin August]

Nathaniel-
That's what this is for. ;)
However my shoulder strain isn't getting better fast enough I don't think. 

-J

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[RBW] Re: S24o Kit Evaluation

[Justin August]

I am thankful to be part of a group who knows how to critique without being 
critical!

Changes I have to make:
- Hammock is out (park regulations)
- Sleeping pad + Bivvy are ready

Changes I will make:
- Cut cookware in half (leaving the Fosters keg, keeping the GSI soloist)
- Drop water bottles. 1 bike, 1 nalgene? 
- cut down on the clothes. I hate being cold. But I can manage a Marin night on 
less I guess. SWRVE modal short sleeve, IBEX spoke jersey, one extra layer and 
my Nanopuff. I really hate being cold. I do like dry socks so I'm bringing an 
extra pair for camp and night wear. 

Comments
- Someone asked about the rating on the sleeping bag going down so low. It's 
what I bought about 17 years ago when I was going to college. My mom thought I 
might need it. Which is weird given how much I paid for room and board. 
- I'm nursing a strain in my upper back/arm from weight lifting. I can't ride 
without some crazy pain up there! I'm hoping it works itself out by Saturday or 
you'll find me in my east oakland Backyard camping instead. 

Thanks much for the feedback. 

Anyone in the Bay Area want to plan any other short Friday or Saturday night 
overnights with this newb?

-Justin

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[RBW] S24o Kit Evaluation

[Justin August]

Doing the s24o thing this year. I'm wondering about my kit and what I'm missing 
or taking extra. 

- Grand Trunk Ultralight Hammock
- Marmot Sawtooth (good to 15F)
- Caldera Cone with Fosters Keg
- GSI Soloist
- Helix Dripper
- Cheap camp mug
- Kleen Kanteen hot thermos
- KK Insulated Cold (on the bike)
- Water Bottle Squeezable
- Nalgene 32oz
- Ibex Woolies 2 3/4 tights & 1 long johns
- Darn tough socks for camp
- 2-3 upper layers (wool, polartec)
- Patagonia Nanopuff jacket
- Wool beanie
- Birkenstock clogs for camp
- Various on bike top layers

My questions are:
Will I freeze without a thermarest or similar pad in my hammock?
Rain fly?
I'm thinking of bring ramen, salami, cheese, baguette and bars/peanut butter. 

I have it all except food crammed into my Carradice & Fromt Basket. I have a 
Tubus Tara and Ortliebs to use if need be. 

Any advice for a first timer?

-Justin

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Re: [RBW] Re: dynamo light decisions: Lumotec or Edelux?

[Justin August]

I just saw this setup on a buddy's bike today. It's slick and quite attractive. 
Not quite as easy as the magnetic attachments but very classy. 

-Justin

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[RBW] FS: Germany Army Trainers (GATs) size 9.5 / 27.5 - $80 shipped

[Justin August]

How do these fit? If I wear a 10 in Sambas do I need a true 43 or are these 
closer to true sizing (I wear a 9/42 in true to size shoes). 

-J

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Re: [RBW] Re: Low riders on the Saluki

[Justin August]

I don't have a roof rack. I rarely use fenders. We're in the clear. I'm now 
waiting for a Tubus Tara. 

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[RBW] Low riders on the Saluki

[Justin August]

Hey folks-
Which low-riders would you recommend for mounting Ortlieb panniers up from on a 
Saluki? I would probably not keep them on all time and would have a basket up 
top. I already own and have mounted a Marks Rack but am not averse to buying 
something that supersedes it's use. 

-Justin

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[RBW] Re: Easiest way to transport Saluki on Southwest

[Justin August]

Ray-
I'm in East Oakland. I may take you up on that if I decide to pull this scheme 
off. 

-Justin

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Noodles vs Soma Highway One Bars

[Justin August]

An excellent bar, one that looks and works great on my Saluki. 

-Justin

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[RBW] Re: Easiest way to transport Saluki on Southwest

[Justin August]

As it looks my best bet will be finding someone with a hard case and shipping 
via Amtrak Express. I'm not keen on trusting any delivery service like FedEx 
two ways in 5 days. I am also intensely distrustful of the TSA. 

So if I do take it it will be via Amtrak Express whilst I fly down. 

A CME is a conference or class that furthers your medical education. My wife is 
an NP in primary care and her employer pays for up to a certain amount. Lucky 
her, lucky me!

Thanks for your input all!

-Justin

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[RBW] Easiest way to transport Saluki on Southwest

[Justin August]

In March my wife has a CME in LA. I'm going to fly down and meet her. I'd love 
to bring my Saluki with me. No fenders, front rack + basket, rear Bagman (may 
omit and buy an Ehrlen while down there), Paul center pulls, drop bars.

What's the easiest way?

I'm willing to do things to "rinko-Ize" it if need be. 

Any suggestions?

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[RBW] Re: So what do I put in my tea now?

[Justin August]

I work hard to eat less sugar. I started cutting back in my coffee by swapping 
to just half n half then swapped to black with cinnamon and now have moved to 
just black coffee but I try to get lighter, more floral and fruity tasting 
natural or washed coffees. Every once in a while I'll whip up some half n half 
in my Neopresso frother with honey to make a honey latte. When you cut back on 
anything - sugar, salt, fat, meat, veggies, fruit, spices - your tastes adjust 
to your new normal.

I also bought a half dozen Krispy Kreme doughnuts with my wife yesterday. Love 
and love your own life. 

-Justin

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[RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Finally Arrived

[Justin August]

I believe the 174 is the Fairweather Allroad bar. I think all dimensions are 
identical to the noodle except for a shirter reach. I have one on my Saluki and 
love it. Paired with SRAM levers it provides enough reach without feeling like 
I'm falling over and includes the pull back towards the rider like the noodle. 

-Justin

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[RBW] Re: Casual warm clothing for casual bike rides

[Justin August]

I don't have a lot to contribute but I just grabbed a pair of Giro ProofMTB 
booties. The onslaught of rain hadn't Sambas soaked after a commute. These 
aren't fully waterproof but they keep my feet warm with a pair of Darn Tough 
socks even in the East Bay monsoon on Tuesday. They slip on easily, have a cut 
out on the bottom for a cleat that works just fine with my Sambas and VP flat 
pedals.

-Justin

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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Justin August]

The obvious solution here is for everyone to get Chris King hubs and coast at 
speed on MUPs. No one can miss you then. 

-j

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Thinking about selling my Rambouillet

[Justin August]

Rams have also been converted to 650b x 42 with fenders. 

-Justin

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Re: [RBW] Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

[Justin August]

When will you be up?

-J

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[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

[Justin August]

I personally need more angle - like that of the MAP Bar (could be a suitable 
solution here) or the Jones bar. I have a flat, low degree bend bar on my Salsa 
El Mar and need something with more bend back.

I would definitely try the MAP bar if I were the OP. I was told by the maker 
they are suitable for the riding he is describing. 

-Justin

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day! R05C0 8U883

[Justin August]

The free valet parking at my BART (Fruitvale Station) is excellent.
The BikeLink lockers at West oakland are well used and I've not heard (cue 
report of) of a daytime work hours theft.
There is ample before the payment turnstile parking at most. There is sparse 
after the turnstile parking at some. 

I've only used the valet parking - excellent as I said - and have a BikeLink 
card that I'm too scared to test using my Saluki or wife's Betty. 

I often put my Saluki in my wife's trunk, carpool from East Oakland (Maxwell 
Park) to San Francisco (Western Addition) and then ride home at night to BART 
in SF and then ride the 7-20 miles home depending on route and preference. So 
that's my "BART Bike."

-Justin

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[RBW] WTB: XSmall Saddlesack

[Justin August]

Hey folks-
I'll grab one or two from Riv if no one has extras they decided to hoard. Grey 
or grey-grid preferred. 

Thanks
-J

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Re: [RBW] Need help choosing rear hub for Soma San Marcos

[Justin August]

In addition to everything noted you used to be able to get cassettes customized 
with Shimano cogs but using Campy spacers so that you get the right spacing to 
fit the indexing but with Shimano/SRAM cog and hub compatibility. 

-Justin

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[RBW] Re: Taking Risks

[Justin August]

As a teacher who rides a Riv and stores his in the classroom I say bring it in. 
They ask, you explain and you get to leave it there. 

-Justin

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[RBW] Re: surly ogre vs riv hunq?

[Justin August]

My Krampus is a medium. Hit me up off list if you're interested. 

-Justin

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[RBW] surly ogre vs riv hunq?

[Justin August]

Owning a Krampus I can say that they are heavy. Like really heavy.  I would 
definitely test ride the Surly to see if it's what you want. The weight and 
lack of response to pedaling needs to be experienced to understand. 

If anyone wants to buy a nicely equipped Krampus let me know. 

-Justin

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Re: [RBW] Re: New cockpit for '02 Joe Stark custom

[Justin August]

Would you go 650b for more width or 559 for width and smaller radius? Cantis 
for clearance or side/center pulls?

-J

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Re: Friction shifting 10 speeds with Silver shifters (Was: Re: [RBW] Turkey Vulture Gearing 101)

[Justin August]

http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/shifting-freewheels-cassettes/shifters/dia-compe-ene-11s-dt-shifters.html

Plus there's these 11speed friction shifters. 

-Justin

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[RBW] Re: Thank you and "Enjoy the Ride!"

[Justin August]

Oh man! I bet he got the only existing Rawland Ravn and is starting a one man 
Ravn Owners Bunch!

But seriously, I hope you have folks to share your adventures with and engage 
in lively, civil and amusing conversations with. Perhaps that will be this 
group in the future and I personally would be interested in knowing reasons why 
it isn't or what you are looking for currently. 

Enjoy YOUR ride with abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Anyone tried the mod174 drop bar from Nitto?

[Justin August]

Mod174 is the same "shape" as the noodle (sweeping back to you) just wish 
shrunken proportions of reach and drop. 

-Justin

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Re: [RBW] Anyone tried the mod174 drop bar from Nitto?

[Justin August]

I love the MoD174. I have it in 42 and I am looking for it in 44cm silver. 
Fairweather is out and I'm debating ordering the 46cm. 

It's a great bar and really fits well with the longer hoods of modern brake 
levers. 

Irving - what size do you have?

-Justin, Oakland

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cantilever brake question...

[Justin August]

I think, to be fair, "Shimano levers" was in reference to modern STI brifters. 
Maybe not but I'd assume so given the long history of success of the brake-only 
levers and cantis from Rivendell and others. 

-Justin, Oakland

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[RBW] Re: SUNRACE One-At-a-Time shifter maintenance?

[Justin August]

I have SunRace actual indexed barcons that I'm not too fond of. I think I'm 
going to widening my handlebars and in that process will probably spring for 
new barcons made by Shimano. 

-J

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Re: [RBW] Re: 10-30 minute rides

[Justin August]

^^^
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-Justin

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