Re: [RBW] Jan and Grant starting a wide tire revolution among racers now?
that's an easy fix... dump that crabby fiber fork and get a real steel one.
Fat tire problem solved
~mike
On Thursday, October 18, 2012 1:52:14 PM UTC-7, Brewster Fong wrote:
On Thursday, October 18, 2012 1:42:54 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
It does sound strange to call 25 wider, but my buddy just rebuilt his
27-y-o Mercian into upright, and while he can fit a 28 commuter tire on the
rear with no worries, he's having problems with 25 a commuter tire on the
front. If he gets anywhere near the recommended pressure, the bulge from
his weight pushes the tire into the brake caliper. But clearly this frame
was built as a road racer and not a touring frame. I let him get in front
at the end of a ride last weekend, though, and he was pacing us @ 24 mph
for 13 miles.
I've been riding 700x25 tires for the last 7 or 8 years. When I first
started, most of my friends were on 20s and 23s. I usually run my 25s @
85-90psi; my friends' tires varied from 100-130psi! They all use to laugh
at me as you could actually see a size difference - my tires were
noticeably fatter. Now, things have changed, most have given up 20s and
many have gone to 25s. My advantage is pretty much gone. Maybe its time
to try 28swhich basically isn't going to happen as my carbon fork won't
allow anything fatter than 25s...Good Luck!
On Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:10:28 PM UTC-5,
LyleBogart{AT}gmail.comwrote:
H. . . I thought wider began at 32mm. . .
On 18 October 2012 11:49, lungimsam john1...@gmail.com wrote:
Even race frames are being changed to accomodate wider tires now?!?!?!
http://www.roadbikerider.com/ask-coach-fred
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[RBW] Re: Bay Area paint job recommendations?
Spectrum, who's often touted the best Powder coater in the US, uses a special finer powder to improve lug line definition is still not anywhere near a good wet paint job. Depends on how picky you are too. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:03:07 PM UTC-7, Jared Volpe wrote: Any suggestions for a paint job in the Bay Area? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6-010T0Tw74J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bay Area paint job recommendations?
like I said, depends on if you are picky or not. The lug lines don't go away, they are just not as crisp with Powder coat. BTW, Steelman uses Spectrum for his bikes frequently. ( according to hos website gallery). I've had a few bikes done by Spectrum and the lug lines were not even close to the ones done by Rick at DD as far as sharpness. ~mike On Thursday, October 18, 2012 8:03:14 PM UTC-7, eflayer wrote: I had my old Kogswell P powdered by a regular old powder coater. My lugs did not disappear at all. Maas does both powder and wet paint. Brent Steelman used to use Maas for all his powder so I think they must do a way better than average job. They do wet, but not sure about the quality of that work. And yes Spectrum does great powder, but not sure of the economics compared to great wet paint. On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:03:07 PM UTC-7, Jared Volpe wrote: Any suggestions for a paint job in the Bay Area? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AyLlf2OXGLwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Tan sackville's
Included in email update today. Been hoping for another color besides the olive. Tan works for me one small trunksack in tan Please! ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LC8M9zGikksJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bill Walton's bike
pretty sure it's steel. Made by Holland. The tubes look very oversized... maybe triple oversize? ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UrXhSH3F1HcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bill Walton's bike
opp's shuda checked... looks like ti with a carbon sleeve. ~mike On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:50:30 PM UTC-7, Michael_S wrote: pretty sure it's steel. Made by Holland. The tubes look very oversized... maybe triple oversize? ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ExfKWWc5gFwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What should I do with my slightly-too-small bike?
That is what I think the issue is... long legs and short torso. If you use the PBH measurement only you can end up too stretched out if you are built like that. The bars are rotated up as well to shorten reach.The shorter stem would help but it doesn't make it a touring bike. another option... keep it set up for road... and find a 80's used touring bike like a Miyata 1000. They have short top tubes for their bikes. I know the 59cm frame has a 57 TT. ~mike http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5302/5704499906_eea2119c83_m.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RM75VAmfPNMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What should I do with my slightly-too-small bike?
It's a beautiful bike, but it looks like it does not fit properly and doesn't fit your needs. The seat is slid forward, the stem is raised up high and short. Maybe a shorter reach bar would work, but a 650B conversion won't help those things.( the BB is probably too low anyway). Sad to lose such a bike... but I'd sell it and get something that works better for you. ~mike On Friday, October 12, 2012 5:30:23 PM UTC-7, Karl Fundenberger wrote: My 59cm Rivendell Road Standard, I have finally decided, is too small for me. It has been a fabulous bike for me; but it is what it is — a road bike, when really, I've wanted a touring bike. Here are some photos, with the newest toward the bottom: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fundenphoto/sets/72157625044930434/ It is currently running Rivendell's 609mm rims, with the (approx. 34mm) Schwalbe tires. I put these on when I discovered the bike wouldn't clear anything wider than a 700x28 tire. I have my eyes on the Velo-Orange Campeur - which I'm thinking I may build up from a frame. Any proceeds from the Riv sale would be funneled toward the VO build. I see my Rivendell options as follows: - Sell the complete bike as it is built. (plus the original 700c wheels) - Cannibalize the parts for the Campeur project; sell the Riv frame. - Hang some or all of it up in the attic. What do you think? Of course, it would be nice to partially fund the next project... but perhaps it would be better to keep the Rivendell? What am I overlooking? http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5302/5704499906_eea2119c83_m.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/kKE3VHzDO3EJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: that nice bike comment
you've led a sheltered life Doug, Woodrup's are very nice British made lugged steel bikes that have been made for over 50 years. http://www.woodrupcycles.com/frames.html I wish I saw more lugged steel bikes down here along the San Diego coast... almost everyone is on carbon fiber with tri bars. Oh. I see the occasional Surly, but Riv's are rarer than hen's teeth. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AxKV4PbdG4UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Some fall color camo.
the bike is beautiful... but the saddle is the wrong tone. You must be really comfortable with your self... I couldn't go out in public with my bike dressed like that. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xNTJMIVC_fgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Drop Bar Suggestions?
this online shop http://store.biketouringnews.com/drop-handlebars/ carries both Nitto dirt drop models. I picked up a 48cm RM013 but have not used it. The hood position is slightly narrower than a 46cm Noodle. I also have an Origin8 gary II bar that seems to be a good in-between choice looking at the fit of both the RM013 and the Noodle bar... but black only too. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/fJvx0OeD1GQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Off road SE of San Ysidro, NM, a tyro's experience.
sounds like a good time to me. Snap a photo on your ride with the Weirwolfs next week. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/u7OHMudFBmEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RR: Riding to Angeuls Oaks via back roads
I tried those knee savers once to try to fix an ITB issue... they made it too wide. I'm happiest with a Q around 170 mm so triple cranks just feel right. But that wasn't what was causing my ITB issue I found out. I went to a Chiropractor (a long time ago) who specialized in cyclists when I was having ITB issues. He said I was sitting to far forward and my hip angle was not right. So now all my bikes now have 72d seat tubes and 25-30 mm setback seat posts to get the right hip angle that eliminates the ITB problem. That solved it. a good bike fitter may find your issue, saving you years of pain. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/KF_FuSKMJnoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone ride a Riv-ish double crank setup?
After trying and liking a 46-32-22 on my 650B bike, I converted my 700C road bike to a 44-29. I've been super happy with both and with 11-30 8 speed cassette's they work great for me. For some reason this combo is just great. I never used the 22 granny on the 650B bike yet, but with full panniers or on a super steep dirt road climb I'm sure it will be useful. The big problem is finding older MTB 94mm bcd cranks unless you want to spend big $$'s for the Compass,TA, Middleburn or White ind. models that can do this as well. ~mike Carlsbad Ca On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:49:53 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: My used Bleriot came with an Ultegra drivetrain. Compact double 34 x 50, 11-27 in the back. It is a little too much for me on the hilly areas around where I live. So I was thinking I could just put smaller rings on the front. 30 x 46? Lower the front derailer a little? *Was wondering what un-racer crank toothcount you use if you have a double.* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XQYtz6doCZIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RR: Riding to Angeuls Oaks via back roads
yea... well just schedule it. I'd love to see some pine trees! ~mike Carlsbad Ca. If anyone is in the area, it's a real good outing. Maybe work out something for a SoCal Riv get together!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5eeXftg_uDYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: In theory: New Riv model with new SRAM 1x11 and no FD
Big cassettes/freewheels are not that new back in the early 80's I had a steel Schwinn Sierra, one of the 1st mountain bikes. Steel frame, room for 2.2 inch knobbies and a 14-38 Suntour drivetrain. It shifted pretty good, I recall. ~mike Carlsbad ca. On Sunday, September 23, 2012 9:57:13 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: I'm pretty sure that the new Riv model with no cable stop for front shifting (and hence no easy way to do a FD) would be a great candidate the new cogs that SRAM is coming out with: 11 speed cluster in the rear with 42 as the largest one and only one chainring in the front. You could do 34 or 32 as your single front chainring and still pretty much have a lowest gear suitable for touring. With a 32 in front, the 32/42 low would be very similar to a 24T granny combined with 32T rear cog. With a 34 in front, the 34/42 low would be a bit easier than a 24/29. The lack of large outer chainring would provide good real estate for a pants guard. Also, I've been riding my 1x11 Alfine QB a lot lately, and it's nice to have a wide gear range and no FD. Just a bit less complication and a beautiful bare seat tube when you look down. I think it would be even better with a rear derailleur instead of IGH. Such a bike would be really sweet. -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6xHfAWAttqgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Max tire on a Rambouillet?
I think there was some variation that occurred in the manufacture of each bike. My green 58cm frame would fit a Jack Brown in the front but with only 3-4mm of clearance to the Tektro brakes. The back would easily fit a 38mm tire. I sold it because I wanted to fit bigger tires. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. On Saturday, September 22, 2012 2:10:39 PM UTC-7, tim whalen colorado springs wrote: Hi, Anyone know how big a tire will fit a 58 Rambouillet? I would like to put a nice comfy cross tire on for mixed surface loops. Thanks, Tim Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/aeQ4gkF1VFsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Which bike next....?
The Soma Double Cross is a nice bike too, Soma Fab. sells a lot of Riv type stuff too. Or Black Mountain Cycles cross bike. Both will fit some nice fat (45mm) tires. Both are lighter and nicer ( IMO) then the LHT for most all purpose riding. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. Peace, Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/F7qJO4u7SYsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Dawn of the Hunqapillar
same here... we need a 56! And that green is beautiful too. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:11:55 PM UTC-7, rw1911 wrote: Nice! love the idea of a Hunqapillar, but I'm between sizes (54-58) and not sure I could do the diagonal tube of the 58. Comparison to your Hillborne? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Jw0YTOGiZpkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jay Bird Films
Tom Ritchey was such a key figure in the start of mountain biking and a remarkable athlete. I didn't realize ( until I looked it up) that he is the same age as me. To have been building frames so early and so well is a true gift. I still remember the '89 Worlds that Don Myrah won. I had just finished racing in the amateur race on the same course earlier in the day and was there to suck it all in. Although at 10,000 ft you don't suck much air. Those were the good old days, rigid steel bikes and none of the panzy suspension stuff. the video is very well done too. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. On Monday, September 17, 2012 1:23:50 PM UTC-7, William wrote: I read the blog by Mike Varley of Black Mountain Cycles in Point Reyes Station. Recently Mike linked to a Vimeo bio of Tom Ritchey. It was done by Jay Bird Films. Not a big surprise to see that is Jay Ritchey of former Rivendell fame. Go have a look if you are so inclined. It gave me a smile: http://vimeo.com/47207697 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hY0btqyHsaoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New budget Riv in Summer 2013?
I doubt the price would go that low David, maybe $1000 like the original Hillbornes. I would buy one at that price that fits fat tires with a single top tube and lugs, no discs please. On the stem issue, to me it's tough to build a production bike and get everything to line up for everybody type. So those with longer legs and shorter torso's end up with taller stems. For me most of the Riv's fit pretty well with just the right amount of stem, so I prefer quills. ~mike Carlsbad Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GHKj1PWdWEEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bleriot as a mountain bike (with bullmooseys)??
that Bleriot with the Schwalbe fatties just looks right to me. Fat tired lugged bikes are the cat's meow. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. On Thursday, September 6, 2012 5:22:34 PM UTC-7, justin...@gmail.com wrote: Hey folks- Since getting my Saluki that fits me like a glove and is far sprightlier, my Bleriot has been sitting downstairs in the basement. I've gone through a couple scenarios, one being an around town singlespeed/fixed (ENO) cruiser. Another is as a lightweight (no downhill, mostly climbing and light trails) mountain bike. Some bullmooseys, Paul Racers and a Ritchey triple make this super appealing. Anyone have an opinion? -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vz-RQGRtvZUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New budget Riv in Summer 2013?
A Riv needs an appropriate Head badge and nice paint, that's what sets them apart. $1000 or so seems like a good price for a Riv. What we really need is more info and less speculation. ~mike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BEWiJOPqsTQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Tubing Thicknesses on Rivs
I guess I really like knowing those details and researching and learning about frame design and such. I spent 31 years in the high tech metals industry ( Rocket Engines) doing exactly this, so it comes natural to want to understand. On the customs I have bought I provided key design characteristics for the frame and selected the tubing to meet my needs and planned use. To me that was a best part of buying a custom frame. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. On Friday, September 7, 2012 9:38:41 PM UTC-7, JimD wrote: Sure, that's one way to go about it. Me, I'm not much of an amateur bike designer. I'm not so much interested in picking the tubes as having the person that designs the bike making such determinations. When I got my Riv custom I had a conversation with Grant about my riding. He took care of the design. He's the 'pro from Dover' when it comes to Rivendell bikes. My Riv custom is the best bike I've ever ridden. Richard Sachs has been known to use the term 'gestalt' in regards to bike designs. I enjoy hearing all the discussions about 'feeds and speeds' but compared to the folks who make their living making these things I'm a babe in the woods. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. -JImD On Sep 7, 2012, at 9:03 PM, Michael_S wrote: I think it helps you pick the bike that you want. Touring, the Atlantis has thicker tubes, fast road... the Roadeo has thinner tubes... Bomber trail bike... the Bombadil has the thickest. You factor in your body weight, what you want to carry and pick the bike that meets those needs. Diameter and wall thickness still matter... it's the other stuff that is less important. Although heat treating is important on thin tubes... on the rest it is inconsequential. As most metallurgist's will tell you it's usually joints and manufacturing flaws that fail, not the parent material if it is designed correctly. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qhG_fowN3bwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tubing Thicknesses on Rivs
I think it helps you pick the bike that you want. Touring, the Atlantis has thicker tubes, fast road... the Roadeo has thinner tubes... Bomber trail bike... the Bombadil has the thickest. You factor in your body weight, what you want to carry and pick the bike that meets those needs. Diameter and wall thickness still matter... it's the other stuff that is less important. Although heat treating is important on thin tubes... on the rest it is inconsequential. As most metallurgist's will tell you it's usually joints and manufacturing flaws that fail, not the parent material if it is designed correctly. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. On Saturday, September 1, 2012 9:02:24 AM UTC-7, MikeC wrote: The website is vague regarding tubing thicknesses used. Does anyone know the exact dimensions? Just interested in data to compare my Hillborne with other bikes that I have. Please don't reply with, Doesn't matter, they all ride great or somesuch Thanks, -Mike SW Ohio -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FLwZvqudUbwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New budget Riv in Summer 2013?
Doug, I've ridden the BB7 road cable disc and a bunch of hydraulics in my time. For technical downhill rides on a suspended bike the hydraulics are worth every penny. I would never ever build a rigid bike with cable discs as they don't offer any real advantage and many disadvantages. ( weight/complexity). Grant knows his niche, and it's not disc brakes. It's steel, nice lugs, fat tires, cool paint jobs and a threaded headset. I would expect him to follow that guideline. Most of us in this group are here exactly because of those attributes. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GYZXY3yn1hMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New budget Riv in Summer 2013?
a fat tire tourer! ... sounds like a winner to me. Hopefully with lugs and cantilever brakes. And maybe in a size I want to buy, as I'm between sizes on the Hunqapillar, 54 too small for me ( I don't like tall stems and posts) , 58 too big in standover. Looking forward to this one. ~mike Carlsbad, Ca On Sunday, September 2, 2012 9:13:38 AM UTC-7, Chris Lampe wrote: I was looking at Rivendell's bike picker feature and under the price range of the San Marcos, Hillborne and Betty Foy, there is a super heavy duty tour bike listed for the Summer of 2013! I haven't seen this mentioned here or in the blog but it's got me excited!! I've had my eye on a Hunqapillar for some time but budgetary constraints make it unlikely I'll ever get one. If RBW comes out with a budget Hunqa, which is what this sounds like, then I will be really interested! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xRCEsSae3g0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Canti's with low reach for 27 to 700 conversion
the Shimano CX70's have a lot of adjustment, not sure if they will work though... This is a trial and error thing unfortunately. ~mike Carlsbad Ca On Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:09:22 PM UTC-7, Kelly wrote: Well I have for the most part finished my build on the Holdsworth. The brakes I've got on it are cheap or at very least weak springed with no adjustment. So I went to replace them and realized that the bike must have originally been for 27 inch wheels. Anyway I'm looking to find a brake to replace these but need to have a very low reach. Here is the photo though not close enough for specifics it does show how how high the brakes ride. Any ideas would be appreciated.. Kelly http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/7846299398/in/photostream -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vyeqe4IAgEUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I've got a project bike. Do you want to do the conversion, or should I?
I know a drop bar conversion would be great on this old Stumpy... here is my Lugged 87 Comp with 46cm Noodles, Brooks etc. http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347002@N05/7089294979/in/photostream ...mines a 58 frame with a 59.5 top tube. I did cheat a little as it was missing a fork. Had Chauncey Matthews make a nice biplane fork with 55mm rake for me and add rear canti mounts. Just a blast to ride. And great for some off-road s24o's. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. On Monday, August 6, 2012 11:51:05 AM UTC-7, William wrote: I've gotten a hold of an early 80s Stumpjumper Sport that appears to be practically unridden. Deer head derailleurs, specialized cranks and hubs. Lugged at the headtube and lugged unicrown fork. Super long chainstays. I think it will make a great substitute for an Atlantis or Bombadil type of touring bike. I'm thinking the Compass 26 tires, or maybe Big Apples, with fenders, and drop bars. This came from the Harding Elementary School Dad's Club. I could do a conversion and then try to sell it, but first I wanted to float it here to see if anyone in the Bay Area was thinking of doing something like this and wanted to have the fun for themselves. Let me know if you think you'd like the shot at this. I'm thinking that $400 made out to Harding Elementary School would be enough to keep me from building a bombproof touring bike out of this. Let me know if you want a crack at it. Here's the photo set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157630935094690/ I am especially interested in getting out of doing this conversion because I always get emotionally attached to these projects and want to keep them. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9FB-lhqEtQ4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: IRD Cafam brakes-Carradice Barley/ bagman
sale is pending payment on Barley bag and Bagman. IRD brakes still available. ~mike On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 1:18:53 PM UTC-7, Michael_S wrote: I have a few items to sell that are brand new and didn't make it to a bike project yet so... 1 pair IRD Cafam cantilever brakes, new $60 shipped 1 ea. green with tan straps Carradice Barley saddlebag, new $65 shipped 1 ea. Carradice Expedition standard mount Bagman, new $35 shipped all prices include shipping in CONUS. Contact me off-line if interested. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/y9II9Yp0_QoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: IRD Cafam brakes-Carradice Barley/ bagman
Barley bag and bagman now sold. Thanks. The IRD canti's include both front and rear wheel. $65 shipped. Shiny silver, easy to adjust. great stoppers. ~mike On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 1:18:53 PM UTC-7, Michael_S wrote: I have a few items to sell that are brand new and didn't make it to a bike project yet so... 1 pair IRD Cafam cantilever brakes, new $60 shipped 1 ea. green with tan straps Carradice Barley saddlebag, new $65 shipped 1 ea. Carradice Expedition standard mount Bagman, new $35 shipped all prices include shipping in CONUS. Contact me off-line if interested. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/gRhZGEg_W8cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: IRD Cafam brakes-Carradice Barley/ bagman
brakes are now sold. Thanks for all the interest. ~mike On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 1:18:53 PM UTC-7, Michael_S wrote: I have a few items to sell that are brand new and didn't make it to a bike project yet so... 1 pair IRD Cafam cantilever brakes, new $60 shipped 1 ea. green with tan straps Carradice Barley saddlebag, new $65 shipped 1 ea. Carradice Expedition standard mount Bagman, new $35 shipped all prices include shipping in CONUS. Contact me off-line if interested. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QZqW8K2h1_4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: IRD Cafam brakes-Carradice Barley/ bagman
I have a few items to sell that are brand new and didn't make it to a bike project yet so... 1 pair IRD Cafam cantilever brakes, new $60 shipped 1 ea. green with tan straps Carradice Barley saddlebag, new $65 shipped 1 ea. Carradice Expedition standard mount Bagman, new $35 shipped all prices include shipping in CONUS. Contact me off-line if interested. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AZDqCf6tVH4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RH cranks on a 650B Hillsen?
Not everyone needs a narrow Q, but the other issue is that there are no good 45mm 650B tires. The Schwalbe Fatties that Riv sells are stout and heavy. It would be interesting to build a road bike that could fit some of the fat 700C tires out there, like the 60mm Schwalbe Super moto, and test this hypothesis. ~mike Carlsbad Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/A37WyOcuS0kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog
After reading all of these comments and digesting them, I have to say that Jan and Grant are the two biggest influences in my cycling life. I certainly don't agree with the many of the recommendation or conclusions offered but overall they represent the driving forces in how and what I ride. And I believe they are the impetus behind the steel bike's semi-return to popularity. I've owned 3 Bridgestone's and two Rivs so far and love Grant's designs and bikes (please return to a more level top tube though) and currently have two customs heavily influenced by Jan's ideas (no more 29er extrapolations please). Just want to say thanks for all of their energy and commitment to making my cycling experience a true passion in my life. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6EYqasJjEGcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog
some people just have good observational skills and spot various clues that all together make them good at finding their way... I prefer not to use computers or GPS as they become sort of a crutch you rely on. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/riIzBNPEn_cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] New Hub Area rack
Grant posted some pics of the latest version of Mark's hub area rack. It looks nice and will fit bikes with mid fork rack mounts.It has tab welded on the front corner that looks like it could attach to the front holes on the Mark's rack or a Mini Campee rack with a Nitto brace rod for more stiffness. http://rivbike.tumblr.com/ I'm thinking that you will need to have some adjustment on your panniers to fit both clamps as the two top attachment points look fairly close. Anyway, it looks very nicely designed and it will be well made form Nitto. I'm anxious to get one. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/yHv42S9V5nIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Legolasi, they go quick
damn! my size and in my town, someone probably offered him big $$ right away. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. On Wednesday, August 8, 2012 9:01:21 PM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody on-list become a new Legolas owner? Up one minute, gone the next... http://www.ebay.com/itm/LEGOLAS-CYCLECROSS-TOURING-STEEL-FRAME-EQUIPED-W-PAUL-CHRIS-KING-THOMSON-/140819804867?pt=Road_Bikeshash=item20c983b2c3 =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/A6g9qKuT8gIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog
As much as I enjoy the technical content of BQ I often struggle with Jan's strong negative opinions with most bikes/parts that are competition for his products or what he rides. He also suggests that we all would be happier on thin tubed standard diameter frames, not offering the ideas that we are all not slight of build like he is. Any of us who are larger in size but as fit will get the same effect on larger/thicker tubes that are more proportionate to our size. ~mike Carlsbad Ca On Sunday, August 5, 2012 12:29:18 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/riding-fast-is-fun/ I personally -- to quote one commentator -- would rather stab myself in the eye than ride 600 km, but this little essay has some good points about the joy of riding fast, but on intelligent bikes. Several RBW references in the correspondence, too. -- When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8Doz-pXRci4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Build. Not a Riv, but a friend of Riv
Very nice build! I had a Double Cross far 5-6 years... a great all around bike. With 40mm knobbies on singletrack, 32mm smooth tires did 100mile /10k climbing century's and everything in between including week long bike tours. The cream frame, olive bags and brown on your bike all blend nice together. Have fun. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RvGG-MfA_-0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Samuel P Taylor S240 Video - Back to Earth.
your friend did a fantastic job with both videos... he's very talented. The s24o video was very inspiring... maybe Grant should add that to the s24o website? ~mike On Sunday, July 22, 2012 10:11:10 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: So I mentioned that my buddy Jesus Beltran, we just call him Chin, videotaped the last S240 to Samuel P Taylor Park. A couple months prior I helped him with a cycling video. We liked it but felt it didn't really portray the real reason why cyclist like going out on two wheels to ride bikes. Like most of you the mileage of any bike trip doesn't really matter it's the company and the experiences you get from trip. When I got my new bike Chin was super animate about wanting to do another film with the new Sam so I suggested he should come along on the s240. I think he did an amazing job portraying the sheer joy of riding bikes with a couple of friends. Hope you all enjoy it. Video proved that it happened: http://vimeo.com/zumpangofilms/backtoearth My buddy that filmed it is an accomplished film maker. Some of his other work can be found here: Jesus Chin Beltran jesusbeltran.com http://www.jesusbeltran.com/ zumpangofilms.com http://www.zumpangofilms.com/ zumpangofilms.tumblr.com http://www.zumpangofilms.tumblr.com/ twitter.com/zumpangofilms http://www.twitter.com/zumpangofilms facebook.com/zumpangofilms http://www.facebook.com/zumpangofilms flickr.com/elzumpango http://www.flickr.com/elzumpango -Manny Wait I'm not suppose to look at the camera Acosta P.S. Heres the older video we did prior to the trip. Not really Rivendell related but I thought you locals would enjoy the scenery most of it was filmed in the Oakland hills. http://vimeo.com/38525817 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8o7QmWtset8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Shoes/insoles
I use superfeet in my cycling shoes. They work great. I have one pair of the ones that are heated and then molded to your foot that is the best. Also Specialized sells their Body Geometry pads that can orient your foot better in your shoe. This may help also. Or you can buy their shoes which have these features built in. I've been using their shoes for 10 years and they made a huge difference in foot and knee comfort. ~mike On Friday, July 20, 2012 4:44:47 PM UTC-7, Benedikt wrote: I ride clipless pedals. I haven't been doing a lot of riding this winter, aside from commuting, and I'm now stepping it up to longer rides. I've notices after about 30/40 miles the soles of my feet start hurting. This could be just that I'm not used to it or it could be that I'm not wearing the insoles I used to. My question is does anyone else wear specific insoles and what are they? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/nJocMbbWSt8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Poor Man's Hunqa/Bomba?
I have a 58.5 cm '87 lugged Stumpjumper that is similar to the Bomba too. Mine has 70d HA, 73d SA and a custom Pacenti crown 55mm rake fork. It's so nice riding that it's moved up in my bike collection from it's original intention as a townie to a rough road/ touring ride. Next on the agenda is to convert it to 650B once I find a decent wheelset. Pics of the beauty. http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347002@N05/7089294979/in/photostream ~mike On Monday, July 16, 2012 2:58:49 AM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote: For yesterday's Sunday Social ride (beginner and family friendly. We pedaled 25 mi round trip to a minor league baseball stadium and adjacent park along the river and back) I put a set of Rich built CX/road wheels on an still-newish looking '88 Bridgestone MB-2. These are the Synergy Aeroheat/Phil FW 28s set and with 37mm Paselas on. I was surprised at how nicely it rode. Looking at it in profile, I was reminded of the web catalog shot of the small Bombadil, so I pulled up the specs on both bikes as well as the Hunqa. (the smalls in each) Bike ST angleHT angle Rake TT length Trail MB-2737144.5 55.562 Bomba 7270.5 54 56.559.2 Hunq71.5 71 48 54.559.2 I know, not exactly the same as either bike, but in the same neck of the woods. The MB-2 has a B-17 saddle, but is otherwise all original. In fact, the only negative on a road ride was I found the Ritchey handlebar uncomfortable after a while. Since I ride MTB so rarely, a nice road bar makes sense. I'm thinking of changing to the Bosco or Albatross bar. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4PLECZMAjqcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cool knobbly tires at BG
yes, please... Rock and Roads in 584 or 650B/27.5 what ever we are calling them these days ... you'll sell a bunch as there is nothing with decent off road tread in this size. ~mike On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 5:30:04 PM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce, These were inspired by the unobtainium Hakkapeliitta (sans studs), no? Is there ever a possibility you would consider doing a run of these in 584? Thanks, =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/1q5_O7rhNOMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Brake Installation Experience
for some reason, most V brakes are very unattractive to me. The symmetry of a nice cantilever brake or a centerpull is much more pleasing to my eye. Having ridden every type in my 30+ years I don't see much difference in braking power on any good quality brake with dual pivot mounts. I don not own any bike with a single pivot caliper brake for that reason. ansd those new Paul mini-moto's are the cat's pajamas... ~mike On Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:05:44 PM UTC-7, meehan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! It's been awhile since I've posted to the list. I recently decided to sell my Atlantis frame and fork, and I replaced it with a Long Haul Trucker. I had an experience when I was building up the LHT tonight that I wanted to share, because I know this list includes a lot of steadfast cantilever devotees. After I got the fenders, wheels, bar and stem installed; I went to install my Paul Touring Canti brakes. These are among the best and easiest-to-install cantilevers that I've ever used. Still there was considerable fiddling about getting them set up. I installed the levers and went to wire up the brakes when I realized I didn't have a font cable hanger for a 9/8 steerer tube. Ugh! Figured I'd have to pick one up sometime this week. It then occurred to me that I had a perfectly good set of linear pulls along with a set of long-pull, Dia-Compe aero levers stashed away somewhere. If I use those, I don't need a hanger at all. This is a Surly not a Rivendell so I shouldn't be subject to too much ridicule for using linear pulls. So I somewhat reluctantly removed the Pauls and dug out the linear pulls (Avid Magnesium Single Digits) and long-pull levers. I was in the process of installing the front V-brake when I realized I was done! I literally laughed aloud! It's been a long time since I've used linear pulls and I forgot how easy they are to set up. I installed the lever and cable and did a spin-and-grab test and the brake felt solid with good power on the first try with no messing around. Now I remember why I felt like it was weird going back to (what I considered to be) archaic cantilevers when I got into the Rivendell world. I didn't see a single picture of a Riv with linear pulls when I bought the Atlantis, so I figured, when in Rome Anyway I've got a set of silver Paul Touring Cantis that I'm going to list for sale once I take a few pictures. Complete with straddle cables, mounting hardware, and I think some spare o-rings. Although, I recommend that you don't buy them and that you get yourself a snappy set of linear pulls! I'll list the brakes in a separate post once I take some pictures. I've got some additional parts I'm going to sell too. Cheers! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HM-pw5DKtTgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 650b Atlantis?
raising the bottom bracket a cm or so does not create much of a problem in my opinion. The braking situation is another matter, if you can't get good leverage with the brake set up you choose then I would not do it. Plenty of MTB bikes have been converted with many happy conclusions. Using a larger wheel helps with with rolling momentum and works better off pavement in my book. And you get to use a hetre...easy decision! ~mike On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 5:18:54 AM UTC-7, stevef wrote: Honestly, I don't get conversions like this. Canti posts add complication to any conversion so that's one issue. Also, the original intent of 650b conversions of road bikes was to add fat tire and fender versatility to an otherwise limited 700c-equipped bike, ie a low clearance, high BB racy/crit bike--trying to add versatility to a bike as versatile as the Atlantis seems an exercise in futility. And messing about with something so perfectly suited to its intent and function, and designed by GP to boot seems almost sacrilege. There are plenty of bikes out there that can be improved by a conversion like this, but the Atlantis doesn't seem like one of them to me. What's that old saw about just because you can does not mean you should...? Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/aelLpZlRMpYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Seattle Tour.
there is another book with good route info published by Lonely Planet Cycling USA: West Coast I've used data from both this book and the Tom Kirkendall and Vicky Spring book. I've only done the Northern California section, and had a great time. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/e9p8M-hug10J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Today's ramble.
Every summer I see Mike's and others pictures of beautiful green forests and wonderful rides and I think I should move to Portland... and then winter comes and I change my mind. and maybe I'm in the minority but I wish Grant would talk less about the low carb diet and just ride. ~mike Carlsbad CA. On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:28:44 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote: The weather here in Portland has been beautiful lately. Downright exceptional over the past three days while I was at work. I woke up this morning and it was cooler but could tell it would burn off. My wife is out of town and we have a puppy so I can't get away for all day rides but I did get in a 3hr ramble passing through Forest Park twice. When I first entered Forest Park and ended up taking Fire Rd 1 which I had never ridden before. It's quite steep in parts and so I just dismounted and just walked a few sections which was fine. I was on my Hilsen and one area where it doesn't do so great is steep scrabbly climbs. I guess I could have muscled up the climb but that just didn't seem fun. I exited Forest Park and headed up to Skyline on the pavement and took that for a little ways before dropping back down into Forest Park via Saltzman and made my way down to Hwy 30 and across the St Johns Bridge and back home, stopping for tacos and ice cream along the way. It was just a really great ride. I was on my Hilsen with platform pedals and wearing some Musa shorts and an LL Bean seersucker/hiking shirt I recently purchased on sale. The shirt worked well except for on descents where it tends to flap in the wind a bit too much for my taste. I guess I could tuck it in and the problem would be solved. After spending so much time focused on randonneuring for the past couple of months it was really nice to just get out for a ramble. I'll do some variation on the ride tomorrow and the next day. When my wife returns I'll hopefully get out for an overnight camping trip. Here's a photo set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157630519177722/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/1YTqk-9b-qoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] mini rando bag
just noticed this on the Acorn site... a mini rando bag! Very nice looking, MUSA and three colors. http://www.acornbags.com/minirandobag.html The small trunk sack is very nice but only comes in olive. I'd like one of those in grey but that fabric is no longer available. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TvX_mM7JwVIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b Atlantis?
kinda curious about how it will ride with the taller BB height? The Hetres are great tires and on a 56 frame they look really good. I've seen the LHT's with a similar wheel switch and they work well too. I'm thinking about this change on my '87 lugged Stumpjumper that has rack and fender mounts and a fairly low BB as well. Mine's a 59cm frame so the slightly bigger wheels will look more normal too. I'm getting closer to having the canti mounts moved and repainted... ~mike On Monday, July 9, 2012 12:01:52 PM UTC-7, Leslie wrote: I'm pondering all sorts of things this afternoon... As anyone ever done a 650b conversion on an Atlantis? Either, a 56 (26-wheeled), or a 58 (700c-wheeled)? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/t4UE5PcOjtIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Shimano hubs.
That is the newest version. FS: I have a rear one in a silver 36 hole version that I am not using and will sell it for $50 if anybody is interested. contact me off-line if interested. ~mike On Friday, July 6, 2012 9:42:28 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote: So I was looking for some hubs tonight, checking Universal Cycles as a start and they no longer have Shimano non-disc XT hubs. I checked the Shimano website and it doesn't appear they're making them. It appears LX hubs are still being made but they aren't listed on the Shimano website. Deore hubs are still available although they appear to be made only in black. That totally sucks. I've found XT hubs to be great and have them on most of my bikes. Furthermore, Shimano appears to have streamlined their V-brakes. I guess as soon as road bikes are being made with disc brakes it'll be hard to find road calipers. It's not like this is the end of the world, there's plenty of options but I've found the XT hubs to be a great value. I'll definitely be looking to scoop up a set of LX hubs to put aside. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/07FpRn2zt3UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Long distance clothing choices
For more casual cycling attire I prefer the Smartwool Microweight tee's. http://www.moontrail.com/home.php has them for a good price. for shorts I wear Kuhl Renegade shorts. Longer inseam, stretchy fabric and lotsa pockets. I do wear a cycling liner, like the Pearl Izumi ones for longer rides. ~mike Carlsbad CA. On Tuesday, July 3, 2012 9:21:32 PM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote: So the Seattle to Portland ride is coming up (200 miles in 2 days), and I'm kinda thinking about wardrobe. I'm not a spandex guy, and though I wore it for quite awhile some years ago, I just never felt right in it. The farthest I've gotten is running socks, boat shoes (my all time favorite riding footwear), Exofficio undies, and that's it. Running shorts will probably be next thing, which seems like a good choice. I wanted a MUSA short sleeve wool tee shirt, but they're out of mediums. Might end up with a butt-crack tan line if I go the tee shirt route. Anyway, what do you guys and gals wear when distance is the thing? Also, who's going? I'll probably be riding my Sam, but I might break out my newly-built-secret-weapon bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CB08kCSntewJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A nine day ride around
great photos and a great trip Ray. I really enjoyed them. I'm dying to do the SF to Ventura section this year. Just need some other interested riders.. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/OGX5e8_kqWoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Shimano CX70 cantilever brakeset-New
these are sold now... Thanks for the responses. ~mike On Sunday, June 24, 2012 10:13:37 PM UTC-7, Michael_S wrote: I picked these up a while ago for a project that didn't work out. Brand new in box ( well I did unwrap plastic bag parts are in) includes front and rear and all hardware. Cool design allows brake pad to swing clear of fork blade so you can stuff big tires in. These are the Pewter gray model. Grant gave them a high rating for that feature. $70 shipped in Cont US for the pair. contact me offline if interested ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/PkAZAVgFkNcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Shimano CX70 cantilever brakeset-New
I picked these up a while ago for a project that didn't work out. Brand new in box ( well I did unwrap plastic bag parts are in) includes front and rear and all hardware. Cool design allows brake pad to swing clear of fork blade so you can stuff big tires in. These are the Pewter gray model. Grant gave them a high rating for that feature. $70 shipped in Cont US for the pair. contact me offline if interested ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GQa9uUAp-8kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: low-rider rack and bags
Doug, Chauncey bikes too. He built me a curved top tube 29er and a 650B all rounder. Here is a picture of my 29er... filet brazed with nice silver bits and an Acorn bag. It is tall enough in the front I can swap in a steel fork and have a monster tour bike. For now I put on a suspension fork. http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347002@N05/7247069476/in/photostream He is making me a front low rider rack right now and has the fork for the 650B bike. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ZSiP82esF-AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Andy Hampsten in the New York Times
here is the right bike with Jack Browns... made by Moots for Hampston. http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/photos/2008/giro08/index.php?id=/photos/2008/tech/probikes/andy_hampsten_may08/Andy_Hampstens_Hampsten_Strada_Bianca_Ti_SS I'd love to do one of his tours... someday. ~mike On Friday, June 22, 2012 1:28:23 PM UTC-7, Aaron Thomas wrote: Today's NYT carries a short interview with Andy Hampsten on cyclotouring. Note his Strada Bianca with what appear to be Jack Brown tires. http://travel.nytimes.com/2012/06/24/travel/andy-hampstens-spin-on-cycling-tours.html On Friday, June 22, 2012 1:28:23 PM UTC-7, Aaron Thomas wrote: Today's NYT carries a short interview with Andy Hampsten on cyclotouring. Note his Strada Bianca with what appear to be Jack Brown tires. http://travel.nytimes.com/2012/06/24/travel/andy-hampstens-spin-on-cycling-tours.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/F6QB1498EGIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: low-rider rack and bags
Wow... that low rider rack is gorgeous!And a Sackville to go with it! This combo will be on my shortlist if it makes it to market. ~mike On Thursday, June 21, 2012 4:57:38 PM UTC-7, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: Admittedly I'm partial to bike bags. I like a variety of ways to carry stuff on my bike. So I'm really hopeful that the low-rider (aka hub-area) rack and its associated bags mentioned in the latest blug entry make it to production. I've used a tubus tara for front pannier mounting. It is surprisingly light. But nothing can really make its bulk attractive. And it needs clamps to work well with the Hillborne fork. The rack depicted in the blug looks to be exactly what I'd like: small, light, silver, and designed so as to work with my fork. For me it doesn't need to carry 40 pounds or 40 liters. Presuming it's a true Sackville, I expect to be happy with the bag that would go with the rack depicted. Sackville front panniers... I never thought it'd happen. I sure hope it does. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/W89mLCZLGIoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mary Bar/Technomic stem incompatible?
did you get the bars from on-one website across the pond? ~mike On Sunday, June 17, 2012 10:03:30 AM UTC-7, velomann wrote: I'm building up a Lugged 93 Trek 750 hybrid as an all-purpose garvel/pavement bike. Had a brilliant idea to use the shiny silver On-One Mary bar (on sale) with the used 25.4 Technomic stem I just picked up. So excited! Until I tried to thread the bend near the clamp. Not a tight bend, but the bar bulges right after the last bend. No go. Didn't try forcing it. and haven't tried spreading the stem at all. Thought I'd seek advice first. Anyone else tried this combo (or a Mary bar with a quill stem) and got it to work? Any tricks (I mean other than telling me I need a stem with a faceplate)? Other alternative might be to go with same stem and Moustache bar, but I really want to give the Mary a try first. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RZvot7hFkhIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What are your favorite blogs?
Jim..we must think alike ... 'cuz those are 3 of my favorites also. And David, your list is ahhh.. interesting. ~mike On Monday, June 18, 2012 3:06:52 PM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Facebook and other social networking sites have led me away from blogs, which I used to read voraciously in ye olde days. I'm making a conscious effort to read more blogs. Current favorites are: http://whileoutriding.com/ http://www.pushingthepedals.com/ http://bikenoir.blogspot.com/ I prefer blogs about touring/bikepacking/adventure more than ones about equipment fetishism (of course, that's usually a neat sideline, whether the fetish is bikes, camping gear, or cameras). Good/unique writing, photos, and perspective are necessary. I can only handle a small number of artful photos of handlebar twine or Phil hubs or fixed-gear chainline, but I'll put up with it if there are enough words and photos from cool rides/tours. What are you folks reading? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/cKB6HtMdszIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nice 58cm Atlantis FS Bay Area
my size but I'd have to change our every component... too much work. ~mike On Friday, June 15, 2012 11:39:39 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Not mine/affiliated: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/3080899378.html Looks like a nice one! -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/80XZZN9csxAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Not as pretty as the new Herse cranks, but ...
The Sugino is kind of bottom of the acceptable range, especially with the cheap chain rings. I swapped out the two big rings with some nice Raceface 7075 rings on mine. The IRD is very nice and the Herse is beautiful. I like using 94 bcd cranks for the range of chainrings. Unfortunately they are mostly MTB cranks and not as sleek looking. ~mike On Sunday, June 10, 2012 12:46:26 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: http://www.interlocracing.com/cranks.html I apologize if this is old news; it's new to me. I note that the track version comes with a 46 t ring, my standard -- reviewer found it to wear well -- for the $160 price. Not too bad! -- Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/SF9fJpWjCk8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What’s Driving the 650B Explosion? Interviews, Tech Breakdown More! - Bike Rumor
unfortunately, the thing I was hoping for... a new 650Bx 40 to 45mm knobby tire isn't in anyone's comments. The closest thing is the Kenda Karma at 50mm. Hopefully they will run small. ~mike On Thursday, June 7, 2012 11:49:43 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: Detailed article on the spread of 650B: http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/06/06/whats-driving-the-650b-explosion-interviews-tech-breakdown-more/ --Eric N -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/jWRJc3wVWoYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Low Trail Fork Experiment ... FYI only - Not intended to start another debate...
finally came out of the closet.. eh Doug. My personal experience is that without the front load the Riv is more stable and funner to ride. Adding a medium weight upfront/above wheel load changes the equation. ~mike On Tuesday, June 5, 2012 3:41:20 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote: Rene: You are indeed brave to post about your experiment, and I hope everyone else reviews it thoughtfully. Something we all need to keep in mind is that as brilliant a designer as Grant is, every bike is the sum of a large number of compromises. The fewer the compromises, the more specialized and hence less versatile a bike is. For me, one of the major attractions of Rivendell is the versatility of my Atlantis. There just isn't any ride I would hesitate to do because my bike can't do that. This confidence building versatility has also led me to a lot of why not? adventures in loading, and I'm probably not alone here. It would be impossible to design a single bike that would be equally competent handling all the possible combinations of front, rear, high, low loading. Rivendell, IMHO, does it better than most, probably because they actually think about it, load their bikes go banging about the hills in the real world. I took delivery of my Atlantis in early 03, and it's my go-to bike for everything. Over the years, I came to prefer having my basic, daily stuff in a front bag, first a Riv Hobo, then an Acorn Boxy Rando (holds more). It seemed that with the front bag fairly well stuffed, the bike had a bit of a wander when climbing at low speed, nothing as you describe but an irritating tendency to want to go somewhere else. I always dismissed it as the load and my inattentiveness. Stumbling into some low trail discussion or article, it seemed like maybe there was room for improvement, at least to my tastes. When touring with a load, the bike was a bit dodgy with everything on the rear, the problem being an infrequent but unpredictable shimmy. Spreading the weight around among 4 bags restored stability. Since my lodging load is 2 bags, on-tour ezperiments with them front vs rear showed front to be a more stable location. However, the previously mentioned wandering was more annoying with all the weight up front. Tom Matchak also came to my attention courtesy another list member, and built the same fork for me. Since my issue was not as dramatic as yours, I was only hoping to get the same stability with a front load that the bike had with no load. The result meets expectations. The 40 mm trail is not a relgious experience but a rather subtle change that solved my personal problem without disturbing anything else about the bike. Note that I did not leap into this without a good deal of second guessing and self-argument. The Atlantis is a great bike and I did not want to screw it up. Fortunately, the results justified the deliberations. It would not surprise me if another Riv owner rode my bike hated it. It just works for my my quirky habits. Side bar re: shimmy. If you get shimmy, don't assume the 40 mm trail is the cure. On a recent S24O (2 bagger) I rode with the bags in front on the way out and the rear on the return. On a straight, level, smooth bike trail at perhaps 12 mph, I got a nasty shimmy when I had to stop quickly, with the load in the rear. After that, all the way home, I tried to induce it again with no success. The typical tail wag when standing is still there. I've been experimenting with trying to move the load lower as far forward as practical. I may need a change of rack (currently using the Nitto Big Back rack) to get things where I want them. Funny that you want to paint both bikes. I really like the gray kidney bean red Hunq paint scheme, and have considered doing that on my Atlantis. It's spent enough time traveling that I'm thinking new paint for it's 10th birthday would be nice. Of course, my wife tells me it's you; sorta old beat-up looking. I think there's a complement in there but I could be just wishing. dougP On Jun 5, 1:37 pm, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Disclaimer: This is a very long post and I want to start by stating that I don't mean to start another heated debate on high vs. low trail fork, or Jan vs. Grant philosophies, etc. I just want to describe this experiment and its initial results to the group so anyone thinking along the same lines has another point of reference. I'll gladly answer any questions that are posted, either privately or publicly but let's handle it as the controversial topic it usually is. Also worth noting is that this is a modification I chose to do on my own to my bikes and while Rivendell certainly supports the exchange of information and knowledge about bikes, they certainly stand proudly by their bikes and their design philosophy. This post
[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver
another way to get the low gearing you desire is to get a 94bcd crankset and run a 20T small chain ring. Then a 34 cog will get you a similar low gear. The White Industries crank will get you there and there are other available used MTB cranksets as well. ~mike On Saturday, June 2, 2012 7:21:45 PM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote: As my new bicycle is taking shape, I'm painfully aware all-over-again that there are very few rear derailers being made in silver these days that will accomodate my 12-36t cassette. Other than the euro LX sold through Riv, is there anything that comes in a plain silver finish? I don't like the look of the black or the silver/black Deore, though it's reliable, easily found, and economical. I've given up on a used one, since rear derailers tend to suffer quite a lot of cosmetic degradation before being offered for sale, generally speaking. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5wJtNfn_sMsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver
correction... TA and Middleburn offer 94/58 cranksets not White Ind. ~mike On Monday, June 4, 2012 8:27:46 PM UTC-7, Michael_S wrote: another way to get the low gearing you desire is to get a 94bcd crankset and run a 20T small chain ring. Then a 34 cog will get you a similar low gear. The White Industries crank will get you there and there are other available used MTB cranksets as well. ~mike On Saturday, June 2, 2012 7:21:45 PM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote: As my new bicycle is taking shape, I'm painfully aware all-over-again that there are very few rear derailers being made in silver these days that will accomodate my 12-36t cassette. Other than the euro LX sold through Riv, is there anything that comes in a plain silver finish? I don't like the look of the black or the silver/black Deore, though it's reliable, easily found, and economical. I've given up on a used one, since rear derailers tend to suffer quite a lot of cosmetic degradation before being offered for sale, generally speaking. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VrMumaRUYcoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sf Randonneurs Mixed Trail Ride.
wow... looked like a perfect ride. Lot's of nice bikes and great terrain. we need some of those kinda rides in So Cal. I'm really jealous ~mike On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 11:43:10 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Rode with the San Francisco Randonneurs on a mixed trail ride over the Golden Gate Bridge. Route Golden Gate Bridge Reverse Paradise Loop Railroad Grade West Point Inn Milwok Trail Coastal Trail Pizza. The Sam rode well on road, rode better on dirt. No big surprised. The big tires nor the fenders made a difference when trying to keep up with the pace. Fun group this SF Randonneurs. Nothing but smiles on this great looking ride. Some notable things that happened; Having ride leader Carlos show me the secret Bike Emergency station near the halfway point of Railroad Grade, checking out the party and beautiful live music at the top of West Point Inn, almost crashing on another fellow randonneur coming down Mt.Tam (he's fine btw), using blue cloth handlebar tape to tape up another randonneur's hand because her bandages was coming off, and eating pizza at a pretty decent place near the Presidio. Great day to be out on the bike Big thanks to Carlos for setting this up. Pictures proved I didn't fall (that much): http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzGguSU -Manny Good to be riding on dirt again Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/wpKzdO18x88J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sturdy rack that will clear 29 tire and fender?
If the dimensions listed on their translated Japanese site are correct it would be too short as it shows 340mm tall. I found this picture on the net for reference. It looks taller on this shot to me which looks like 700C wheels. http://maestro-kemeko.cocolog-nifty.com/photos/uncategorized/2012/02/13/mt800_02.jpg ~mike On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:12:53 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I've got a cheap aluminum rack designed with adjustable struts to clear 29er tires and disk brakes; Sunlite is embossed on the rack platform thus guaranteeing that it was made in Taiwan. I suppose this is adequate -- it is rated to 50 lb -- but I wonder if there exist nicer, chromo racks that will clear 29er tires and fenders; the strut would have to measure ~14.5/37 cm from center of eyelet to underside of platform; perhaps half an inch of fudge factor. (FWIW, the adjustable struts have, I guesstimate, another 2 of extension available -- would clear a Pugsley, etc.) The Tubus Logo would have been fine except for Tubus's unfortunate under-platform strut clamps that crowd tire clearance. Exist there off the shelf racks with 50 lb capacity that have such clearance? I'd pair it with a Tubus Tara. Thanks -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/okOrNfLFA8cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sturdy rack that will clear 29 tire and fender?
I'd like the answer to that as well. I found this steel rack that looks promising. http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=146_240products_id=10894zenid=018... Looks like it would work. ~mike On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:12:53 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I've got a cheap aluminum rack designed with adjustable struts to clear 29er tires and disk brakes; Sunlite is embossed on the rack platform thus guaranteeing that it was made in Taiwan. I suppose this is adequate -- it is rated to 50 lb -- but I wonder if there exist nicer, chromo racks that will clear 29er tires and fenders; the strut would have to measure ~14.5/37 cm from center of eyelet to underside of platform; perhaps half an inch of fudge factor. (FWIW, the adjustable struts have, I guesstimate, another 2 of extension available -- would clear a Pugsley, etc.) The Tubus Logo would have been fine except for Tubus's unfortunate under-platform strut clamps that crowd tire clearance. Exist there off the shelf racks with 50 lb capacity that have such clearance? I'd pair it with a Tubus Tara. Thanks -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/99GC3ReXFR4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New build and grease
Sta-lube boat axle grease... my tub is at least 10 years old. Works like a charm. A greasy charm. Think I bought it based on some comment Gary Fisher wrote. Guess he and Grant can't be wrong. ~mike On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:44:15 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote: I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the Knothole and Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or another except deraillers. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/bq2qmJ-DPcQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New triples and wider gearing from Campagnolo
been there, done that. I'm running a 10 speed Campy Centaur ( square taper) triple that was originally 50-40-30 that I put a 28t small ring on. I'm using an 8 speed shimaNo 11-30 cassette shifting with Simplex retro friction down tube shifters. Centaur rear long cage derailleur too. 9 speed Record chain. Works great on my rando bike. Campy Demographics? Baby Boomers with aging knees... ~mike On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:40:44 PM UTC-7, Aaron Schmidt wrote: At the risk of inciting a religious war, I figured some folks might want to know that Campagnolo is coming out with some updated triples, (slightly) wider 10 speed cassette (12-30: 12-13-14-15-17-19-21-24-27-30), and a long cage derailleur. http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/05/15/campagnolo-intros-5236-wide-range-cranks-cassettes-performance-triple-cranksets/#more-43869 Does anyone else find this slightly sensible and therefore surprising? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7GVYpriZItsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: s240 up diablo?
yes... we are all jealous down here in the lower half. ( well at least I am) Please post some photos so we can pretend like we were there! ~mike Carlsbad Ca. On Thursday, May 10, 2012 5:51:20 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Planning on riding up Monday afternoon to juniper campsites. Tuesday planning to check out the Tour de Cal that running through the south gate of diablo into livermoore. If your interested in doing a s240 and you've never done one before this is a good first one to do. Pictures of last s240 up there. http://flic.kr/s/aHsjvhXC3e More details coming up soon. -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/oa5hpqF_TWYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Slipping QR in horizontal drop out help
I think a new Atlantis would solve your dilemma think of the big fat tires you could run .. even Nanos. Vertical drop outs, check, no more problems, check. Plus you could get out of your blue bike rut. Little devil on your shoulder ( mike) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2Mq5VoztEvUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 200k permanent on Homer
From those of us in semi arid parts of the country (Carlsbad, Ca.) that ride is fantastically beautiful and I'm super jealous. I have the ocean nearby but I miss trees. And 12 hours out dedicated to cycling is pretty darn nice too! What size Supreme's are you running? I'm in the market for some 35-45mm tires for my new touring/all rounder and thinking seriously about those. ~mike On Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:32:12 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote: Well, the weather here in Portland has been spectacular the past couple of days. In preparation for the upcoming Cascade 1200k I've been trying to get in a few more longer rides than just a basic Super Randonneur series (200k, 300k, 400k and 600k brevets). Today my friend Ed and I headed out to do the Portland-Ripplebrook-Portland which goes from Portland out to Ripplebrook Guard (Ranger?) Station in the Mt Hood National Forest along the Clackamas River. The weather was amazing and the route, by and larger really nice and most of the time on quiet back roads. There is also a long stretch on the Springwater Corridor bike path from Portland to Boring. I had really been hoping to do this ride in 9 to 10hrs but that wasn't to be. A couple of rather long stops and Ed's bout of vertigo slowed us down quite a bit. In fact, this was my slowest 200k ever 12hrs, 15min. I did the Bingenfest faster in platform pedals a few years ago and that has way more climbing. The Cascade is in late June so I'm hoping to be ready for it. This has been an odd year for me with randonneuring in that all of my times have been slower than in years past. Also, I won't get to do the 400k because I was unable to get coverage for work that weekend in spite of requesting the time off back on Feb 10th (WTF?) Fortunately I will make it up to WA for the SIR 600k on the Olympic peninsula the first weekend in June. I've never been up there and am looking forward to it. Hopefully things will come together and I'll have a strong ride which I think will help put me in a better headspace for the Cascade. My rando bike is bottom bracketless right now so Homer stepped up for randonneuring duties. It performed quite well and I just really love that bike. Here's some pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157629674282972/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ChZOgTBeMDAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Slipping QR in horizontal drop out help
If I were you I'd sell that bad boy and get a new Atlantis. ~mike On Saturday, May 5, 2012 10:00:45 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I have horizontal drop outs, and my rear wheel consistently slips forward on the drive side. I'm sure it's because of the massive wattage I'm putting out. Any way to keep it from moving? It's getting pretty frustrating. I've cranked down on the Shimano XT QR so tight that I just about need a lever to open it up. I'm even messing up the bearing a little from it being so tight. To no avail. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/SHOJtE1-p58J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Frame bags
Hunter Cycles showed something like this at NAHBS. http://www.flickr.com/photos/huntercycles/6789257290/in/photostream Very good idea. But you'd need something on the top tube to hold it. ~mike On Saturday, April 21, 2012 9:36:06 AM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote: I have an idea in my mind that frame bags should mount to bottle bosses in the and down top tubes. You'd need to reinforce the bag edges, and you'd need to modify the bike, but it would look cleaner, and wouldn't un-buff the paint. Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On Saturday, April 21, 2012 3:58:47 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: One issue with frame bags is that they chafe the paint. After a short time with a frame bag, the top tube paint will have an unevenly buffed luster. Some will call it beausage and some will suffer indescribable anguish. Maybe some cloth tape around the tube first? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/glNXUCNq85MJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: QB crank on Hilsen
On my Coho randonneur I'm running a Campy 50-40-28 with an 11-30 cassette. I can use the 40 for most all riding except steep hills. I've thought about switching it our for something like a 44-29 on a 94 bcd crankset. I think I'd probably use the 29 more than now as pushing that 44 up gradual climbs would put me in one of the larger cogs. It's a simple thing to try. If it doesn't work you can always go back. ~mike On Friday, May 4, 2012 2:36:35 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote: So i sold my QB frame a while back and still have the cranks. I'm thinking of maybe putting them on my Hilsen later this summer when I swap out the cassette and chain. I'd probably keep the 40t ring and chain guard but swap out the 32t for maybe a 28. According to Mark at RBW, a double FD like the one i have on the bike now will work, I can even keep the same BB, all of which makes for a fairly easy swap. Curently my Hilsen has a 46/34 double which is okay but I feel with a smaller big ring I'd get more use out of the higher gears. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_M9vEb1ZIG0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wide profile canti brake recs
The IRD cafam canti's work really well and can be set up wide profile. The supplied straddle wire was too small for the 2.0 tires i'm running on my lugged stumpjumper. I set 'em up pretty high with some cut to size brake cables. They work great.see picture. http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347002@N05/6882320260/in/photostream ~mike On Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:41:54 AM UTC-7, Norman Bone wrote: I need to raise the cable hanger on my front brake to accommodate the diving board for a Mark's Rack. The current low profile brakes are marginal (at best) with the hanger closer to the tire and I anticipate that they will not cut the mustard if I raise the hanger another inch or so. I'm using the Tiagra aero levers that Riv sells. That being said, I'd like to install a wide profile canti on the front that would work well with my existing levers. What wide profile brake have you had a good experience with on your Riv with an aero lever? How high are you running the hanger from the tire? Thanks- Norm in PDX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/F_X0Dfp7nIcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Brand New Acorn Rando bag
It's sold now... thanks for the interest. ~mike On Sunday, April 29, 2012 9:35:25 PM UTC-7, Michael_S wrote: I bought this a few months ago and stored it for my new 650B Project. It's the Ranger Tan color which is a medium brown canvas, a very nice looking bag. I decided not to use this kind of bag so I'd like to sell it. Brand new, never even attached to bike. I'll sell it for $160 shipped in CONUS. They go for $197 plus shipping, if you can get one. contact me off line if you are interested. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Df50H-6MsCU/T54WBUX3OhI/AC0/2Geaw2RxR9Y/s1600/acornrando.jpg ~Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/KVgFGTIF7QcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Brand New Acorn Rando bag
I bought this a few months ago and stored it for my new 650B Project. It's the Ranger Tan color which is a medium brown canvas, a very nice looking bag. I decided not to use this kind of bag so I'd like to sell it. Brand new, never even attached to bike. I'll sell it for $160 shipped in CONUS. They go for $197 plus shipping, if you can get one. contact me off line if you are interested. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Df50H-6MsCU/T54WBUX3OhI/AC0/2Geaw2RxR9Y/s1600/acornrando.jpg ~Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/eq71dgKgQGgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pretty new friction shifters are finally available
Those are nice in case I run out. I have one extra Simplex Retro's and one Suntour Sprints in reserve. They would look nice as bar ends too. ~mike On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:18:55 AM UTC-7, William wrote: Silvers on the insides, retro-beauties on the outside. I hope Riv stocks them as well http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/dia-compe-ene-w-dt-shifters.html I'm going to have to count how many Suntour Sprints I have and decide if it's time to stock up again, because these things are slick! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/SWunIp2vsloJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?
From what I recall ( having owned a Ram) that the Ram and Hilsen were both made from the same wall thickness tubing ( 8-5-8). The Roadeo has thinner tubing from what I read. The Hilsen had better tire clearances. My Ram would only barely fit a Jack Brown in front w/o fender. The back would fit a 37mm Pasela. Some of the last Ram's had mid fork braze on's too. It was a great riding bike, the lack of clearance in front led to me selling it. ~mike On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:33:04 AM UTC-7, HappyCamper wrote: I thought the Rodeo was a direct decendant of the Ram but it seems like maybe the Ram was halfway between a Rodeo and a A Homer Hilsen? Is it just a Hilsen without good rack mounts? Does Rivendell keep an archive of older stuff somewhere on their site? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lN1AJ096v5IJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: new Brooks Swift in Antique Brown steel rails
it's sold. Thannks. On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:00:14 PM UTC-7, Michael_S wrote: I picked this up a while ago with plans for the sporty bike. I decided to stick with my trusted B17 Special so I need to sell this, Brand new in the box with wrench and cover. The Antique brown is a beautiful color. $110 with shipping included in Cont. USA. Pls contact me offline ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JfJk7ej6Y38J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: new Brooks Swift in Antique Brown steel rails
I picked this up a while ago with plans for the sporty bike. I decided to stick with my trusted B17 Special so I need to sell this, Brand new in the box with wrench and cover. The Antique brown is a beautiful color. $110 with shipping included in Cont. USA. Pls contact me offline ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/aMm8yFu7YPAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Portland bike shop
I would agree that San Diego has a large cycling community, but my rough estimate is that 80% are wearing team kits and ridding CF bikes, at least in North County. I'm sure in the city there are more commuters/urban riders. It's certainly many times greater than in the LA 'burbs where I (and Velo Cult's owner Sky) came from. Where I live in north San Diego County the City of Carlsbad has done a fabulous job with bike lanes and cyclist friendly traffic lights. There also many multi-user dirt bile trails that cover the hills. With the proximity to the ocean it's certainly an idealistic place for a cyclist to live. ~mike On Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:15:47 AM UTC-7, velomann wrote: I attended the grand opening of Velo Cult here in Portland last night. I have a feeling this is going to be my new favorite bike shop. Heavy emphasis on Riv-ish and classic bike lore, with nary a carbon racing bike in sight. In fact, when you walk in the door you have to look around a bit to find any merchandise - parts and bikes are all towards the back. Lots of Nitto, Brooks, Velo-Orange, and On One (who also just moved to Portland). New bikes appear to be Surly, Raleigh, and All City cycles. The main attraction, though, is the space. Appears designed more as a shrine to the classic mountain and road bikes owner Sky Boyer has on display, including an original Steve Potts, early Bontrager cross bike, a beautiful Follis tandem, and lots of stuff I'm forgetting. The place is seems designed more to hang out and talk bikes than to sell you something - though there's plenty to buy. Surprisingly, Portland doesn't really have a shop like this - most of our shops seem either race obsessed, fixie focused, or a hodge-podge of everything on 2 wheels. I think they will do well here. And there's microbrews on tap. Coffee and food coming soon, I hear. Pictures here: https://picasaweb.google.com/116897251123335733984/VeloCultGrandOpening -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DSTzUEKl1IkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Portland bike shop
I would agree that San Diego has a large cycling community, but my rough estimate is that 80% are wearing team kits and ridding CF bikes, at least in North County. I'm sure in the city there are more commuters/urban riders. It's certainly many times greater than in the LA 'burbs where I (and Velo Cult's owner Sky) came from. Where I live in north San Diego County the City of Carlsbad has done a fabulous job with bike lanes and cyclist friendly traffic lights. There also many multi-user dirt bike trails that cover the hills. With the proximity to the ocean it's certainly an idealistic place for a cyclist to live. ~mike On Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:15:47 AM UTC-7, velomann wrote: I attended the grand opening of Velo Cult here in Portland last night. I have a feeling this is going to be my new favorite bike shop. Heavy emphasis on Riv-ish and classic bike lore, with nary a carbon racing bike in sight. In fact, when you walk in the door you have to look around a bit to find any merchandise - parts and bikes are all towards the back. Lots of Nitto, Brooks, Velo-Orange, and On One (who also just moved to Portland). New bikes appear to be Surly, Raleigh, and All City cycles. The main attraction, though, is the space. Appears designed more as a shrine to the classic mountain and road bikes owner Sky Boyer has on display, including an original Steve Potts, early Bontrager cross bike, a beautiful Follis tandem, and lots of stuff I'm forgetting. The place is seems designed more to hang out and talk bikes than to sell you something - though there's plenty to buy. Surprisingly, Portland doesn't really have a shop like this - most of our shops seem either race obsessed, fixie focused, or a hodge-podge of everything on 2 wheels. I think they will do well here. And there's microbrews on tap. Coffee and food coming soon, I hear. Pictures here: https://picasaweb.google.com/116897251123335733984/VeloCultGrandOpening -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/nGdqrhPqEycJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Portland bike shop
Micro-brews on tap? never had that down here, although Station Tavern next door is the best. I miss them even though I just moved to San Diego permanently. I had been there many times. I'm sure they will do well there, I believe there is a larger population of the cyclist they best serve. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. On Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:15:47 AM UTC-7, velomann wrote: I attended the grand opening of Velo Cult here in Portland last night. I have a feeling this is going to be my new favorite bike shop. Heavy emphasis on Riv-ish and classic bike lore, with nary a carbon racing bike in sight. In fact, when you walk in the door you have to look around a bit to find any merchandise - parts and bikes are all towards the back. Lots of Nitto, Brooks, Velo-Orange, and On One (who also just moved to Portland). New bikes appear to be Surly, Raleigh, and All City cycles. The main attraction, though, is the space. Appears designed more as a shrine to the classic mountain and road bikes owner Sky Boyer has on display, including an original Steve Potts, early Bontrager cross bike, a beautiful Follis tandem, and lots of stuff I'm forgetting. The place is seems designed more to hang out and talk bikes than to sell you something - though there's plenty to buy. Surprisingly, Portland doesn't really have a shop like this - most of our shops seem either race obsessed, fixie focused, or a hodge-podge of everything on 2 wheels. I think they will do well here. And there's microbrews on tap. Coffee and food coming soon, I hear. Pictures here: https://picasaweb.google.com/116897251123335733984/VeloCultGrandOpeninghttps://picasaweb.google.com/116897251123335733984/VeloCultGrandOpening -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/t0DnlurmFk8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis
On my tandem, I'm using a older (M952) XTR long cage derailleur and XTR 12-32 cassette. shifts like a dream. ~mike On Saturday, March 24, 2012 6:43:33 AM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote: On Mar 24, 8:34 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: We did a 10--8 Shimergo conversion recently. If we set it up to shift in the middle of the cassette, indexing was suboptimal at the top and bottom of the range. The customer brought it back to us several times for fine-tuning before giving up on the idea. Maybe I missed some subtle nuance to making it work flawlessly, but in my experience it only kinda works. Probably voids any warranty. What kind of cassette/derailer, Jim? Just curious. I have the best results with a short-cage (Ultegra), currently shifting a 12-30t on a single ring set-up. I also get really smooth precise shifting with a medium cage XTR rapid-rise (which I actually like for the ergo levers - lets me shift to higher gears from the drops, and sweep up to lower gears with a single big push of the thumb). anyway, just wondering if longer cages are more finicky for shimergo. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Xn54U0KGWzEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis
the Campy ergoshifters are much nicer than shimaNos. Many drop bar mountain bikers ( and me on my tandem) use 10 speed Campy ergo levers with an 8 speed shimaNo rear derailleur and cassette... shifts like they were made for each other. ~mike On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:25:06 PM UTC-7, sanjoser wrote: hello everyone I've had a mix of components on my atlantis for it's life, these 10 years or so. different shifters, hubs, gears, drivetrain, etc. I've got the urge to do an upgrade, and I'd really like to go campy. I've been advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they get serviced every six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is up for change. This is my goto bike for commuting and tours. I guess I don't have to explain that to this group. So, what 's the consensus? best regards tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/e6b4C5YhbpwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike lust.
It's funny but the two bikes you picked, the dark green Atlantis and the Orange all rounder have both been on my favorites list for along time... ~mike On Monday, March 12, 2012 12:48:32 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: Have you ever happened across a photo of a bike that makes your blood boil in a good way? One that makes you want to build one just like it and ride it around the world...for the rest of your life. I stumbled on this one in the flickriver and it has my Hilsen on the verge of being sold off for an Atlantis. Hopefully this is someone here so they know I think this is one of the best Rivendells I've laid eyes on. Rivendell Atlantishttp://www.flickr.com/photos/88057131@N00/5956828630/sizes/l/in/faves-42027576@N00/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xJmmhbCufKIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 650b and the MTB crowd.
whatt? you getting kickbacks? Most shops can't afford to keep vintage stuff in their cupboards. I buy basic things,, cables, chains, tubes but anything Riv-like comes from the Internet. Although now that I live in Carlsbad, their is a shop in Oceanside... Pacific Coast Cycles that is the closest to anything Riv-like that I've found. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UFOIGisoyYkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Queue Backlog
seems like nothing I've posted in the last 2-3 weeks has gotten through. Maybe I'm just spam! ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/bx6bkNK9TtkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: V-brake vs canti question
Doug, While my opinion is that the right cantilever brakes ( Avid or Paul ) stop just as well I would just caution that the Travel Agents have a reputation for cable failure becasue of the tighter bend. Since it's your wifes bike and she is a lighter weight person and probably won't be carrying huge loads it's probably not an issue. Just something to keep an eye on. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/MPO8ODjs5LsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar: crotch-worried
Interesting info... I decided not to get a Hunqu because I wanted the double top tube and all the info said I should get a 54 with no diagonal TT. ( I'm 5'11.5 86.5 pbh) This changes things... hmmm now I need to re-think this. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3xKL1LhJj5kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: These cranks stink so good!
In case anyone wants a Suntour Microdrive crank... I have one for sale. NOS XC Expert crankarms with NOS 42-32 rings and a good condition 20T granny. $50 shipped. There are plenty of 44 or 46T chainring out there is some wants to build a low cost 46-32 double. contact off line if interested. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zWX6OkU-SV0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Suntour XC Expert crankset
not sold yet. Price dropped to $50 shipped in CONUS. The 94mm bcd arms can be used as a double that will permit a 29T middle ring (not included) ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EeoL6mRav4cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] New bags at Soma
I spotted two new canvas and leather bags at Soma Fab. They come in black only but look fairly nice to me. I have no idea where they are made. http://store.somafab.com/cakirobag.html ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zaKXwK057q0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Rivideo. DD paint
he makes it look so easy. He's got the skills too. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4N33xESfUYMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: What's your winter project? 2011 version
not when you move to the beach! You can ride 12 months of the year in San Diego. Of course the scenery is better in the summer. ~mike ... Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Ah88cE3n5GsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope
The 756 model has cro-mo axles, the later models switched to aluminum axles to save weight. Due to the lower mechanical properties of aluminum they had to make the axle larger in diameter which resulted in making the ball bearings smaller to fit inside the hub body. Now whether this decreases the life of the bearings I have not seen any data that reflects that, but in general larger ball bearing are a good thing. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/E1PlDcdDX0gJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
