Re: [RBW] Re: Perennial "Can you still get a Legolas?" question

[Rod Holland]

Speaking of future considerations: does anyone feel confident they know 
what the tire clearances are for each? With/without fenders? Reading the 
material on-line has left me a little fuzzy about that...

rod

On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 3:36:34 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Thank you for this; I'll put it in the archives for future reference -- 
> for the probably very distant future when I might afford one of them.
>
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Jim M.  
> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 12:47:13 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> Doesn't the Roadeo, at least in the non-huge sizes, use the same or 
>>> similar 7-4-7 tubing? This came up recently ...
>>>
>>> The Legolas and Roadeo have the same tubing for top and seat tubes, 
>> fork blades and chain stays. The Legolas downtube is slightly heavier 
>> at .7/.5/.7 vs .65/.45/65 for the Roadeo.  I got this from Mark showing 
>> me the specs sent to the builder.
>>
>> jim m
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[RBW] QUESTION: Rat Trap Pass

[Rod Holland]

I should have mentioned that the 30/35 PSI is with a 240lb rider. The Rat Trap 
Extralights are mounted on Sun Rhyno Lite rims. That choice of pressures is 
based on what had worked for me with a pair of 2.15" Schwalbe Big Bens. When I 
tried the same pressures on the RTPs, they just seemed to work.

rod

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[RBW] QUESTION: Rat Trap Pass

[Rod Holland]

30 front, 35 rear, on a mix of pavement and gravel/dirt/roots/rocks.

rod

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[RBW] Compass on tour?

[Rod Holland]

I've been riding my LHT with Snoqualmie Pass Extralights over a gamut of 
terrains, under load, with no flats.

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[RBW] Re: Exploding Tires

[Rod Holland]

I caught one of these pinches the last time I changed tires; I THINK I 
fixed it. I'm 50 miles or so post-change, so cross your fingers

rod

On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 12:37:59 AM UTC-5, Christopher Murray 
wrote:
>
> I've had this happen three separate times on three different bikes (twice 
> while riding). In each case the tube was pinched under the bead of the 
> tire, pressure builds , and BLAMM-O!!! It really does sound like a gunshot. 
> On the bike a slight wobble starts and gets worse very quickly before it 
> blows. Initial wobble to blowing is a few seconds. 
>
> In my case it was a very sloppy mechanic(me) who was more interested in 
> riding than taking his time and doing it right. 
>
> Cheers!
> Chris
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Rod Holland]

The term "fred" used to be associated with touring cyclists (c.f. the old 
phreds mailing list), and was sometimes expanded to Fenders and Racks Every 
Day. Some time in the last decade there was a sense inversion, and the name 
started getting hung on kitted carbon riders (with the implication that their 
gear is faster than their skill); I associate that shift with the Bike Snob, 
but only because that's where I first encontered it. 

Seems to me the old usage was actually embraced as a positive identity by many 
of those it described, while the newer usage is merely derogatory.

rod

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[RBW] Will the Walnut Creek shop be open Monday, 1/2/17?

[Rod Holland]

So, since I was in Berkeley anyway, I walked by another iconic bike shop, also 
closed for the day.
https://goo.gl/photos/dZe4EdkBjPvAVLFS6

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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

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Yeah, Chris King hub angry bees are a safety feature. Badly adjusted, squealing 
cantis do the job, too, and penetrate earbids reliably...

rod

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Re: [RBW] Will the Walnut Creek shop be open Monday, 1/2/17?

[Rod Holland]

Thanks!

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[RBW] Will the Walnut Creek shop be open Monday, 1/2/17?

[Rod Holland]

Turns out I'll be in the neighborhood. If it's open, I'll drop in. If it's 
closed, I'll wish folks a happy new year via this medium. Couldn't quite tell 
from the web page.

rod

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[RBW] Re: New bike day! R05C0 8U883

[Rod Holland]

Thank, Bill. That's helpful.

rod

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[RBW] New bike day! R05C0 8U883

[Rod Holland]

Bill,

It's beautiful. Any further thoughts about the drop-outs, now that you've laid 
hands on them?

rod

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[RBW] Re: Does the Rosco Road have vertical drop-out?

[Rod Holland]

Thanks, both. That had a calming effect...

rod

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[RBW] Does the Rosco Road have vertical drop-out?

[Rod Holland]

Perhaps this was in the blug, if so, I missed it. Dangerously curious...

rod

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[RBW] Re: Just ride!

[Rod Holland]

Oddly enough, it gets worse:

http://bikebus.com

"Experience Indoor Cycling On The Open Road". 'nuff said...

rod

On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 11:24:08 PM UTC-5, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> sigh. we're doomed...
>
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 6:31:07 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/16/zwift-a-multiplayer-game-thats-making-indoor-athletics-more-social-just-raised-27-million/
>>
>> Courtesy of you-know-who.
>>
>> Let's change that. Let's call it, "Why ride?"
>>
>> Patrick Moore, who Just Rode this afternoon despite wind and gray skies, 
>> and turned a 8 mile rt PO trip into a hilly 17.6 mile Just Ride fixed gear 
>> ride.
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[RBW] Re: FS: 55cm Butternut Appaloosa

[Rod Holland]

So, no drivetrain, no brakes. Not a complete bike, but arguably a complete 
Rivendell velocipede. Might want to lower the seat...




Sounds like a dandy project for someone. I'd bite myself, but am trying to 
observe a "one frameset at a time" discipline.


rod



On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 11:20:33 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I'd like to clarify something.  I am not selling a complete bike.  See 
> this list and this price:
>
> *frame-fork-headset*
> *stock seatpost and saddle*
> *stock wheelset, tires and tubes (no cassette)*
> *SKS P65 fenders*
> *stock choco-moose handlebars*
> *stock kickstand*
>
> *$1300 shipped* 
>
> That's everything you would get.  See things that are not on that list?  
> You get nothing that is not on this list.  
>
> No crankset or bb
> no pedals
> no chain or derailers
> no brakes brakelevers or shifters
>
>
> On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 12:32:50 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Are you bummed that you can't buy a 55cm Appaloosa?  Are you double 
>> bummed that the Butternut color of 55cm Appaloosa sold out in the pre-sale, 
>> and never gave you a chance at one?  
>>
>> I love mine, but I've fallen for the 650B Hunqapillar.  If you want to 
>> buy my Appaloosa, I promise I will turn around your money and buy a MUSA 
>> Hunqapillar.  
>>
>> I'm offering the following:
>>
>> frame-fork-headset
>> stock seatpost and saddle
>> stock wheelset, tires and tubes (no cassette)
>> SKS P65 fenders
>> stock choco-moose handlebars
>> stock kickstand
>>
>> $1300 shipped 
>>
>> Here's a photo of the complete bike:  
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/29852875792
>>
>> I talked to Grant about it and he said he's not mad if I sell the 
>> Appaloosa that I just recently bought.  He gets it that I love 650B.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
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[RBW] Good news, bad news: Rejoining the peloton

[Rod Holland]

Welcome back! We missed you.

rod

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Re: Noodles uncomfortable? Was: [RBW] Re: Nitto M151F bar story behind it on all those riv builds lately?

[Rod Holland]

I have Noodles on 3 bikes: a 700c LHT, a 26" LHT, and Rawland Nordavinden. 
The bars on the Nordavinden are relatively narrow (42cm?), which seems to 
work very well with the low-trail (33mm) geometry of that bike: they are 
absolutely comfortable over any distance I've managed so far. I have larger 
Noodles (47cm?) on the two Surlys, with further differences: the 700c was 
originally a complete-bike build, and I swapped the Noodles into the 
existing stem at the existing position (level with the seat). The 26" LHT 
was a custom build on a Trucker DeLuxe frameset, and there's a noticeable 
drop between the seat and the bars on that bike. For either of the Surlys 
with the wide Noodles, I can find comfortable hand positions for long 
stretches of riding, but I can tell the difference between the three bikes 
in terms of cockpit comfort. I find myself fantasizing about raising the 
bars on the 26" LHT to seat level; I mull making a stem modification on the 
700c LHT to bring the stem perhaps a cm closer to the seat. Thus far, I've 
done neither of these things, and tell myself I have desirable 
biomechanical diversity across the different bikes in the herd. So far, I'm 
buying that, possibly because I'd rather spend the time riding than 
wrenching... I've got another bike build queued up for the Winter months 
(older Ebisu AP), and haven't made a decision about bars for that yet... 
Might go with the same width Noodles as on the Rawland, might try the Maes 
Parallel bars... We'll see.

rod

On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 2:08:59 PM UTC-4, Olof Stroh wrote:
>
> Grant wrote:
>
> I THINK the consensus here is that a Noodle still wins (my vote, but 
> that's to be expected, I'm sure).
>
>  
>
> I had a Nitto 176 aka Dream Bar I bought from Riv and loved. Read the 
> praise for Noodles, bought them and tried to love them but found them to be 
> murder for my wrists. They are now adorning my cellarfloor while I had to 
> search ebay for my second and third Dream Bar as Riv had taken its hand 
> from them. IS there a concensus and I the peculiar outlier or what? Just 
> asking.
>
>  
>
> Olof Stroh
>
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>
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[RBW] Re: ROADINI tease on the BLUG

[Rod Holland]

Wonder what the max tire width will be. Jolly if they were compatible with 
Snoqualmie Passes...Won't hold my breath for that, of course.

rod

On Friday, October 7, 2016 at 3:02:36 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> His first name is Leo.  He apparently has paws.  Your Roadini that you buy 
> next summer may have a fake panel.  So far, nothing not to like
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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Re: [RBW] Compass Snoqualmie Pass 700x44

[Rod Holland]

Mine went on without difficulty and without tools, although I did wear 
gloves while getting the last few inches of bead over the rim. They seated 
properly on the first try.

rod

On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 10:30:33 PM UTC-4, ericf3 wrote:
>
> I want to know how easy they are to get on the rims...I assume they are 
> tubeless ready?  Meaning harder to mount, no?
>
> signed
>
> Eric " Lady fingers " Floden
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[RBW] Re: Compass Snoqualmie Pass 700x44

[Rod Holland]

I mounted a pair of Snoqualmie Pass Extralights with Schwalbe SV-18 tubes 
on Alex Adventurer rims (17.5mm internal width), and they measured 40.49mm 
for the time being; we'll see how much they stretch after a few months of 
use.

Given a published rim height of 18mm, the aspect height of these tires as 
mounted is 38.65mm or thereabouts.They're tall boys, but they fit under SKS 
Longboard fenders on my LHT.




rod


On Wednesday, September 14, 2016 at 8:07:19 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>
>
>
>   Could someone please measure the aspect height of the tire ?  The 
> easiest way I found is to look up your rim height from the mfr. and then 
> with some calipers measure both the rim and tire as one, as if you were 
> going to measure it between your thumb and index finger. Subtract that from 
> the rim height. 
>
> Thank Yuh ! 
>

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[RBW] Re: Rat Trap Pass: reviews? impressions? poetic waxings?

[Rod Holland]

Right. Key word is "look". They look slow, too, to some who haven't ridden them.

Love the last paragraph of the Riv quote.

rod

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[RBW] Re: Rat Trap Pass: reviews? impressions? poetic waxings?

[Rod Holland]

They're certainly not cheap, but they're also not bald. Low profile file tread. 
Pretty grippy, in my experience. Not Paselas, different feel, but also not 
Kojaks... and not water skis...

rod

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[RBW] Re: 26x1.75-2" tire recommendations

[Rod Holland]

I ran Compass 26 x 1.75 tires on my Surly Trucker DeLuxe for 1400 miles, 
until the Rat Traps became available. I liked them fine: cushy and quick, 
game for the gamut of surfaces I rode them on, although for the really 
rough stuff, I found myself wanting either wider tires or more skill (hence 
the switch to Rat Traps). Think of them as Paselas with more supple 
casings. Lots of laughs. Here's a ride report 
, putting these tires 
through their paces in the Vermont hills last year.




rod


On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 8:15:03 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>
> I got used to having bikes with real big clearances and overestimated my 
> capability on this 84 trek 890 I'm working on. 2.1 knobby tires are rubbing 
> a bit (measure 2.5 at the knobs)
>
> This bike is going to be used on mostly on pavement and fire roads, no 
> crazy trails or extreme mud. My wife is pretty cautious.
>
> Calipers say I have 56mm clearance at the tightest spot, and I'd like to 
> go as big as possible. I guess that means something like a 1.75 with knobs, 
> or a 2.0 slick that maybe measures a bit smaller. 
>
> Puncture protection and longevity > suppleness
>
> Seems like there are a lot of really low end hybrid type tires that fit 
> this bill but not sure if any are worth the time. 
>
> Ideas?
>
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[RBW] Re: Rat Trap Pass: reviews? impressions? poetic waxings?

[Rod Holland]

I had an experience recently that may be relevant. As part of a hilly 
30-mile loop in the Boston suburbs, intended as a training ride for a 
gravel ramble in the Vermont hills later in the month, I came to a long 
segment (maybe 2 miles?) of grooved pavement in a hilly stretch of Concord 
Ave., Lexington. I was riding my Surly Trucker DeLuxe, a 26" touring bike 
equipped with RTP ELs (affectionately known as the "Monster Trucker"). 
After riding to the top of the first of several hills, I plunged without 
hesitation into what soon became an all-in descent; the tires made this 
feel like the right thing to do, and that feeling increased through a 35 
mph run, and was repeated in two more descents before the pavement reverted 
to normal. The fact that I dropped a couple of roadies who were gingerly 
negotiating that stretch on 23 mm tires was, of course, icing on the cake. 
The fact that the tires were also doing their thing admirably on the smooth 
pavement, as well, made it sensible for me to be out riding them on what 
was basically an all-pavement ride in the first place. The Surly frame 
(which I like well enough, btw, and have run happily with other tires) was 
incidental: in this case, it was really about the tires, making possible 
things that didn't feel wise before, in this case a 35 mph descent on 
grooved pavement. The tires are the thing. Maybe someone will come up with 
one or more optimal bicycles to match them, but in the meantime, they make 
any bike that can fit them a whole lot better.

By way of data points, no flats in 600 miles, no traction problems in the 
rain. I'm running the RTP ELs on Sun Rhyno Lite rims at 30/35 PSI. I've 
taken them on pavement rough and smooth, city and country, gravel ranging 
from stone dust to railroad ballast, dirt, roots, rocks, the last three on 
single track and our local "abandoned carriage roads". I'm not running 
tubeless. I find they spin up well from a standing start, and that the 
pneumatic suspension rewards standing on the pedals in those situations, 
good for when the light changes. They climb happily (they climb, the rider 
is happy).

rod


On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 7:16:59 PM UTC-4, Patch T wrote:
>
> They've been out for just over a year now, yeah? More? 
>
> Who has been riding them extensively, and can share some solid feedback? 
> Where and how do you ride them? On what? With whom? And why?!?!
>
> I'm interested in getting the Standards, but would like to read about the 
> Extralights, too.
>
> (If there's already the same thread, apologies, I searched but couldn't 
> find it)
>
> Love,
> Patch
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rat Trap Pass: reviews? impressions? poetic waxings?

[Rod Holland]

I had an experience recently that may be relevant. As part of a hilly 
30-mile loop in the Boston suburbs, intended as a training ride for a 
gravel ramble in the Vermont hills in the month, I came to a long segment 
(maybe 2 miles?) of grooved pavement in a hilly stretch of Concord Ave., 
Lexington. I was riding my Surly Trucker DeLuxe, a 26" touring bike 
equipped with RTP ELs (affectionately known as the "Monster Trucker"). 
After riding to the top of the first of several hills, I plunged without 
hesitation into what soon became an all-in descent; the tires made this 
feel like the right thing to do, and that feeling increased through a 35 
mph run, and was repeated in two more descents before the pavement reverted 
to normal. The fact that I dropped a couple of roadies who were gingerly 
negotiating that stretch on 23 mm tires was, of course, icing on the cake. 
The fact that the tires were also doing their thing admirably on the smooth 
pavement, as well, made it sensible for me to be out riding them on what 
was basically an all-pavement ride in the first place. The Surly frame 
(which I like well enough, btw, and have run happily with other tires) was 
incidental: in this case, it was really about the tires, making possible 
things that didn't feel wise before, in this case a 35 mph descent on 
grooved pavement. The tires are the thing. Maybe someone will come up with 
one or more optimal bicycles to match them, but in the meantime, they make 
any bike that can fit them a whole lot better.

By way of data points, no flats in 600 miles, no traction problems in the 
rain. I'm running the RTP ELs on Sun Rhyno Lite rims at 30/35 PSI. I've 
taken them on pavement rough and smooth, city and country, gravel ranging 
from stone dust to railroad ballast, dirt, roots, rocks, the last three on 
single track and our local "abandoned carriage roads". I'm not running 
tubeless. I find they spin up well from a standing start, and that the 
pneumatic suspension rewards standing on the pedals in those situations, 
good for when the light changes. They climb happily (they climb, the rider 
is happy).

rod

On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 7:16:59 PM UTC-4, Patch T wrote:
>
> They've been out for just over a year now, yeah? More? 
>
> Who has been riding them extensively, and can share some solid feedback? 
> Where and how do you ride them? On what? With whom? And why?!?!
>
> I'm interested in getting the Standards, but would like to read about the 
> Extralights, too.
>
> (If there's already the same thread, apologies, I searched but couldn't 
> find it)
>
> Love,
> Patch
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Tire advice

[Rod Holland]

I was responding to rob's experience, but thanks. As far as pressure goes, I'm 
riding Barlow Pass ELs at 45/50, Rat Trap Pass ELs at 30/35, and GB Cypres ELs 
at 60/65, with a 240 lb rider over a diverse gamut of surfaces, urban to rural, 
smooth pavement to single track. One flat this year, a glass sliver in the 
Cypres.

rod

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[RBW] Re: Tire advice

[Rod Holland]

Huh. Nothing like my own experience with Compass ELs. Out ocuriosity, what 
pressures were you running?

rod

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Re: [RBW] Re: How hot is your town?

[Rod Holland]

Boston area: high of 89, 88% relative humidity. The natives complain about the 
heat and humidity. I'm from South Georgia, and know better.

rod

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Re: [RBW] Re: good blug post on rim and disk brakes

[Rod Holland]

Specifically, the thought of a Nordavinden retrofitted with disc brakes scares 
me. There are disc-native Rawlands that have a loyal following, though, with 
more rumored to be on the way.

rod

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Re: [RBW] Re: good blug post on rim and disk brakes

[Rod Holland]

Fear...

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[RBW] Re: Very clever video

[Rod Holland]

As might have been expected, the comment chain on that video is pretty bad. 
Lots of bike-hating, enhanced by wishful thinking about imitating the video.

rod

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[RBW] Best advice for securing bikes in a garage

[Rod Holland]

I keep a 32' aluminum extension ladder ly1ng against one wall of the garage. I 
find it works well as an improvised bike rack, and lock 3 bikes to it. Of 
course, a determined thief with the right tools, operating unobserved, could 
defeat this, but the garage is normally locked. So far, so good.

rod

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Bubbe

[Rod Holland]

One use case for that (lugging a laptop) is commuting...

rod

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[RBW] Re: "My first Roadeo" and chainline/BB question

[Rod Holland]

Try the ELs sometime... you've tasted the apples, time for the oranges.

rod

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Re: [RBW] Bump FS 59cm Roadeo f/f/hs/bb

[Rod Holland]

finally saw it... **blush**

looks like my progressive email blindness is progressing to forum posts...

rod

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> Thanks! Managed not to register the size in any of the prior posts...
>
> rod
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RE: [RBW] Bump FS 59cm Roadeo f/f/hs/bb

[Rod Holland]

Thanks! Managed not to register the size in any of the prior posts...

rod

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Re: [RBW] Bump FS 59cm Roadeo f/f/hs/bb

[Rod Holland]

That being said, what size is it?

rod

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[RBW] Garbage Pail Riv sighted in Berkeley

[Rod Holland]

Seems to me this one was beaten to death in an earlier thread... but it's got a 
certain zombie-like resilience...

rod

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[RBW] I Bailed Off Flicker

[Rod Holland]

I've had good luck with Picassa. But I've got a high tolerance for Mr. Google...

rod

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[RBW] Winter gloves

[Rod Holland]

+1 for the Empire Wool and Canvas IceBike Mittens! Love 'em.

Then there are various ski gloves. I went nuts with those during Boston's 
miserable winter last year. Will be testing a few that I got on sale at the end 
of the season out this season.

One trick is to keep the core toasty... that makes for more generous 
circulation to the periphery.

rod

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[RBW] Re: Christmas Goggles!

[Rod Holland]

Patrick, that's great! There's nothing better than a good pair of goggles 
when the Winter weather gets frisky. Merry Christmas from Massachusetts!

rod




On Friday, December 25, 2015 at 3:12:28 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> A very merry Christmastide to you all! Father Christmas Kringle gave me 
> the gift of goggles so I can see on blustry bike rides. Wow! What a 
> difference it makes not squinting through blowing snow and tears at 15˚F 
> and 20ish MPH winds (before heading down hill! 
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/23968697415/ 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
>
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org 
> www.OurHolyConception.org 
>
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[RBW] PSA: Canti-Rom on ebay

[Rod Holland]

Interesting... wonder what size?

rod

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Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

[Rod Holland]

Michael, 

Good point about what helmets are designed to prevent. Last summer, during 
an otherwise pleasant off-road ride, I had a low speed crash 
that
 
resulted in the crown of my head squarely strike a steel rail. I got a 
little inconsequential cervical compression from that, and my trusty Giro 
helmet cracked audibly. I was able to ride away from that, and figured my 
helmet had died for my sins, and needed to be replaced. I reflexively 
bought another Giro, but also pulled the trigger on a POC Trabec Race MIPS 
helmet. The "MIPS" (Multi-dimensional Impact Protection System) designation 
refers to an an anti-concussion system in which a certain amount of 
rotational slip between the helmet liner and the helmet casing is designed 
in. Turns out that most concussions result from oblique head strikes, 
causing sudden torque on the brain in the skull (at least, if I've 
understood what I've read; this may explain why I didn't suffer a 
concussion from smacking the railroad track dead, er, head on). The MIPS 
design is supposed to mitigate that, and provide a measure of concussion 
prevention. How well this actually works is apparently a matter of dispute, 
and I hope never to verify it experimentally, but I do wear the POC MIPS 
helmet more often than the traditional Giro, especially in off-road or icy 
road situations. The Giro gets the nod for long road rides, or very hot 
days (it's lighter and cooler).

rod

On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 8:38:50 AM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> ...
>
> Bicycle helmets are specked to prevent open head injuries.  They are not 
> specked to prevent concussions.  The probability of getting an open head 
> injury in a slow speed fall from a bicycle is extremely small.  The 
> probability when hit and thrown from the bike is significant enough to 
> warrant helmet use, at a minimum whenever riding on a busy road or 
> expecting to do high speed descents.  The probability of having an open 
> head injury while riding on a bicycle path is so small as to be irrelevant. 
>  So I would question what the study under discussion defined as an 
> accident, all accidents or just those that involved another vehicle? ...
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[RBW] Re: Flat pedal shoes

[Rod Holland]

+1 for the New Balance Minimus MX20. 

Likewise for five.ten... although if your feet are wide, you may find yourself 
trying to prioritize retention and pain with those...

rod

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[RBW] A couple of Sackville questions

[Rod Holland]

Thanks to both Patricks for your swift and helpful replies!

rod

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[RBW] A couple of Sackville questions

[Rod Holland]

As part of a build of a Rawland Nordavinden, I installed a Nitto M-18 rack. 
I just ordered a Small Sackville TrunkSack for that, seemed like a way to 
get ~3L of capacity without having to make annoying choices about the 
Rawland's cockpit (I'm currently set up with interrupter levers, and like 
'em). It hasn't arrived yet, but I'm assuming this line of bike bags does 
OK with wet weather. I know I'll get my own experience with that soon 
enough, but would appreciate hearing what others in this group have learned 
from there own experience, especially about maintenance.

Second question: assuming all goes well with the TrunkSack, I could imagine 
supplementing it with a SaddleSack (either Small or Medium). My saddle 
doesn't have loops, and I don't particularly want to swap it out, since it 
fits where I sit, and I've got the same saddle on 4 bikes. Reflexive 
googling got me to the potentially helpful Velo Orange Saddle Loops 
,
 
which apparently would allow me to adapt my existing saddle for this use. 
Has anyone had experience with this gizmo? Are there competing products 
worth trying?

Thanks,

rod

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[RBW] Re: BQ to publish study of pedal retention usefulness in Summer issue

[Rod Holland]

Oops, did miss it. It was a short sidebar to a review, "MKS Rinko Pedals". 
Best summary is last paragraph:

Retentionless pedals work great on flat roads. Uphills, especially short 
> rises, are easier when your feet are firmly attached to the pedals.


 As some of the folks on this thread have pointed out, there is a degree of 
rider familiarity with the equipment in play here; those of us who do this 
every day have hill climbing strategies, and that wasn't evaluated. This 
looks like an impression, made in good faith, not an exhaustive study.

rod

On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 10:20:23 AM UTC-4, Rod Holland wrote:
>
> Just scanned the tables of contents for the Summer and Autumn issues, and 
> didn't see it. Maybe I missed it.
>
> rod
>
> On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 2:18:13 PM UTC-4, George Schick wrote:
>>
>> Now that Summer is long past, does anyone who subscribes to BQ have a 
>> synopsis of what they found out about pedal retention usefulness that 
>> they'd like to share? 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 15, 2015 at 9:23:53 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> Doubtless of interest to RBW listers. Quoted from the Compass blog for 
>>> those who don't read it or BQ.
>>>
>>> I'll be very interested myself, as someone hitherto convinced that 
>>> retention is a great help. If tests show that retention doesn't help, I'd 
>>> probably still keep retention on my fixed gears, for safety, and because 
>>> they do undoubtedly allow pulling up for more torque when climbing steep 
>>> hills, but would undoubtedly switch to platforms for my off road derailleur 
>>> bike.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Jayme Frye says:May 15, 2015 at 6:27 amI was with you up until SPD 
>>> clipless pedals. I am not convinced there is any need for retention systems 
>>> outside the ultra competitive world of pro cycling (primarily sprints). 
>>> Perhaps you could use your testing methods on the claims that pedal 
>>> retention systems are more efficient and allow the rider to produce more 
>>> power by pulling up. That would make for a great BQ article.CheersReplyJan 
>>> Heine, Editor, Bicycle Quarterly says:May 15, 2015 at 6:55 amWe did test 
>>> this. It’s in the Summer issue, which will come out soon…Reply*
>>>
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>>>
>>> *
>>> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a 
>>> circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and 
>>> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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[RBW] Re: BQ to publish study of pedal retention usefulness in Summer issue

[Rod Holland]

Just scanned the tables of contents for the Summer and Autumn issues, and 
didn't see it. Maybe I missed it.

rod

On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 2:18:13 PM UTC-4, George Schick wrote:
>
> Now that Summer is long past, does anyone who subscribes to BQ have a 
> synopsis of what they found out about pedal retention usefulness that 
> they'd like to share? 
>
>
> On Friday, May 15, 2015 at 9:23:53 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Doubtless of interest to RBW listers. Quoted from the Compass blog for 
>> those who don't read it or BQ.
>>
>> I'll be very interested myself, as someone hitherto convinced that 
>> retention is a great help. If tests show that retention doesn't help, I'd 
>> probably still keep retention on my fixed gears, for safety, and because 
>> they do undoubtedly allow pulling up for more torque when climbing steep 
>> hills, but would undoubtedly switch to platforms for my off road derailleur 
>> bike.
>>
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>>
>> *Jayme Frye says:May 15, 2015 at 6:27 amI was with you up until SPD 
>> clipless pedals. I am not convinced there is any need for retention systems 
>> outside the ultra competitive world of pro cycling (primarily sprints). 
>> Perhaps you could use your testing methods on the claims that pedal 
>> retention systems are more efficient and allow the rider to produce more 
>> power by pulling up. That would make for a great BQ article.CheersReplyJan 
>> Heine, Editor, Bicycle Quarterly says:May 15, 2015 at 6:55 amWe did test 
>> this. It’s in the Summer issue, which will come out soon…Reply*
>>
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[RBW] Re: All arounder Handlebar recommendations GO!

[Rod Holland]

Just to be contrary, I'll through Noodles into the mix. I find they give me 
a very comfortable range of upright positions, as well as some very useful 
more aggressive ones.

rod

On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 10:45:35 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>
> I have a sam and a hunqapillar. sam had mustache bars, hunq had albatross. 
> Then the hunq got albastache and the sam got the old albatross bars because 
> I figured it was silly to have 2 bikes with similar bars. Long story short, 
> the albatross bars on the sam feel way too upright for my liking (and sam 
> is my "roadyish" bike). I'm aware of all the nitto/riv models, but what do 
> people like for an all around bar?
>
> Looking for a couple hand positions, not fully upright, faster feeling 
> bar, mostly road riding with a little dirt. Solo, all purpose/no purpose 
> rides. 
> I haven't ridden drops since a fixed gear bike got me into bikes (and away 
> from fixed gears). I'm not super excited about drops but am somewhat 
> curious about the low rise dirt drop style bars. What's out there that I 
> should be considering?
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Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

[Rod Holland]

On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 12:05:05 PM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote:
>
>
> -  Even though I won't need one, I got curious and decided to check the 
> news regarding the Ravn progress, over on the rCog forum.  Looks like that 
> project might be dead.  Or at least its not going to be the uber-bike that 
> it once was.  Lots of angry and disappointed people.   Seems they've been 
> having trouble getting a manufacturer who is skilled enough to build with 
> the flexy, raked fork blades, cantilever brakes, and precision tubing 
> tolerances.  .   I really hope that doesn't mean that these tires will be 
> available only as a fleeting thing.  As pointed out above, there probably 
> aren't that many non-custom bikes out there that can even utilize them, 
> other than these XO-1s, All Rounders and smaller Atlanti.  
>
>
> So, the original Ravn spec went through a number of crowd-sourced 
metamorphoses, in the best Rawland tradition. A pretty attractive bicycle 
emerged from that: light, lively, and low-trail, with canti or V brakes, 
and, of course, clearance for the Rat Trap Pass tires, with fenders, 
available as a frameset or a complete. As you relate, Rawland's long-time 
Taiwanese fabrication vendor seems to have gotten stupid (probably through 
the loss of key personnel, the way it usually happens), and delivered a 
botched prototype that just wasn't going to be the bicycle folks were 
excited about. MEANWHILE... a different design, disc brakes based, was 
going very well, AND a new fabrication partnership and Rawland business 
model emerged. SO... the Ravn brand will now be applied to a different 
bicycle, which can still be called "enduro all road", said to be available 
in Spring 2016, as a complete bike only. This last detail caused a good 
deal of consternation on rCOG, both because the likely price tag is spendy 
(wouldn't cause a ripple in the as a Riv complete, of course), and because 
the typical Rawland owner actually likes building up bikes to their taste 
and/or spare parts bin. So the Ravn is still a viable egg, but will be a 
different bird when it hatches. See http://ravn.rawlandcycles.com/ for more 
on that, as it develops. Meanwhile, lots of folks are experimenting with 
the Rat Traps on a variety of bikes: vintage 26" mtbs, 26" touring bikes, 
disc bikes with the necessary clearance (e.g., the Elephant NFE), 
purpose-built customs. Here's mine, a Surly Trucker DeLuxe with Rat Trap 
Pass Extralights mounted under Planet Bike Cascadia ATB fenders; I've taken 
to calling it the Monster Trucker. Like it a lot...




It would be surprising if some frame builder or manufacturer didn't step 
into what looks like an emerging market.  Regardless of subsequent 
developments with the Ravn (and I wish Sean every success with it, btw), 
looks to me like the Rat Trap Pass is here to stay. 

rod

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Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

[Rod Holland]

Sun Rhyno Lite rims (27.5mm width, if memory serves), on Chris King hubs.

rod

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[RBW] Re: New fat 700 tires! 700x42 ultra light

[Rod Holland]

If you do that, order one for me, too...

rod

On Friday, October 9, 2015 at 1:15:51 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> If you forced me to order a Custom Rivendell today, I would order a 
> roadish Riv with Roadeo tubing (the lightest GP is comfortable with using 
> for me).  It would have a geometry almost identical to my 56cm Hillborne 
> (135mm rear, cantilever brakes, single TT, sloping TT).  It would have Riv 
> "batwing" fork tips and mid fork braze ons for an HAR or other lowrider 
> front rack.  It would have clearances for these tires (700x42) plus 
> fenders.  
>
> It would be like a canti-Roadeo for fat tires.  Or a roadish Legolas.
>
> On Friday, October 9, 2015 at 9:57:30 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> "They're in stock as of this morning. They'll pop up on the store in a 
>> day or two, but savvy purchasers can call ahead and reserve some before the 
>> rabble cotton on." - distributed via Merry Sales exclusively for the time 
>> being. So visit your LBS and get them to call their Merry rep and you 
>> shoiuld be able to order them now. 
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: New fat 700 tires! 700x42 ultra light

[Rod Holland]

They did try with the C-Lines, but the Barlows showed up almost immediately 
thereafter. I ended up with a pair of each, along with a pair of Resist 
Nomads and a pair of Vittoria Randonneur Hypers. I'm not sure what came 
over me... Mounted the Barlows, and never looked back.

rod

On Friday, October 9, 2015 at 12:35:10 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> That's a smart move by Soma to jump into the gap that is currently not 
> covered by Compass.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, October 9, 2015 at 7:26:25 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> https://instagram.com/p/8mMR3jotbY/
>>
>> Check out these new tires that just dropped from Soma! This is what I've 
>> been waiting for on my Atlantis, something like the 650x42 Compass tire but 
>> in 700. They've also got a 38mm version
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Bigger Jack Browns?

[Rod Holland]

Yeah,you could do that...

rod

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[RBW] Re: [BOB] For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

[Rod Holland]

Should have said, I'm running RTP ELs...

rod

On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 10:20:36 AM UTC-4, Rod Holland wrote:
>
> I'm running the RTPs at 30 PSI front, 35 PSI rear on my Surly Trucker 
> DeLuxe (I'm a 240lb rider). The tires are enough taller than the Compass 
> 1.75s that they replaced that I've nicknamed the bike "Monster Trucker". 
> Concur re cornering. Slowly accumulating experience with these, thus far 
> all on pavement, rough and smooth; will try other surfaces as the 
> opportunity arises. Feels like getting a new bike...
>
> rod
>
> On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 8:28:05 AM UTC-4, Jeff wrote:
>>
>> I didn't get out on the longer, mixed surface ride that I'd hoped for, 
>> but I have commuted on the XOXO a few times this week, and put in some 
>> bonus miles over some rough urban roads and a bit of offroad stuff. I'm 
>> definitely warming to the RTP's. The most significant performance feature 
>> that I'm noticing at this point is the confident cornering these tires 
>> allow. I feel like I can really lean the bike over significantly further in 
>> higher-speed corners than I could with the 26x2 Kojaks I was running. The 
>> nice round profile makes for confident and comfortable handling. I've 
>> slowly let a bit of air out of each tire on each trip and this is generally 
>> improving the just-riding-around feel of the tires, but I'm still not 
>> feeling the love and devotion that I have for the Barlow Pass and Babyshoe 
>> Pass tires on my other bikes. Maybe it's the bike. Hopefully I'll get out 
>> on a longer trip this weekend and can report further findings.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Jeff Lesperance <jeff.le...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have the standard, not EL version of the RTP's, and I may have had 
>>> them a bit higher pressure than what I'll eventually land at. I started 
>>> with about 50 psi on the rear and 45 on the front. About halfway through my 
>>> ~8 mile ride through a mostly urban area, I stopped and let a minimal, 
>>> unmeasured amount of air out of each tire.
>>>
>>> I think the XOXO is a relatively peppy ride, in my experience. I don't 
>>> pay attention to angles, trail and other metrics, I just know when things 
>>> feel different and if I like the ride or not. Compared to my Riv bikes, the 
>>> XOXO has, had, almost twitchy front-end handling and jumps forward from a 
>>> stopped position. I think it's lower trail than my Rivs and has either 
>>> shorter chainstays or steeper seat tube or both. I think the introduction 
>>> of the RTP's changes the trail (pneumatic trail?), slowing down the 
>>> steering response a bit, and in some way, has deadened my acceleration 
>>> feeling from a stop. I say carefully there "feeling" as I didn't actually 
>>> time anything. 
>>>
>>> I'll get out for a mixed surface ride tomorrow suburban streets -> urban 
>>> streets -> hard-packed/rutted dirt/gravel -> mixed gravel/dirt/sand and 
>>> play with the PSI, with a pump with a pressure gauge handy, to see if I can 
>>> find nirvana with these tires. 
>>>
>>> -Jeff
>>> Silver Spring, MD
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 9:33 PM, mitch <mitch@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 6:30:54 PM UTC-6, Jeff wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ...My initial reaction is that I'm a bit underwhelmed with the tires. 
>>>>> I ride the 700x38 Barlow Pass on my Sam Hillborne and 650bx42 Babyshoe 
>>>>> Pass 
>>>>> on my Homer, and they are life-changing tires on those bikes. I didn't 
>>>>> have 
>>>>> an epiphany while riding the Rat Trap Pass for the first time, but we'll 
>>>>> see how they do with a long mixed surface ride this weekend and a week of 
>>>>> commuting...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Remind us what pressure you used for your test ride (and if you're RTPS 
>>>> are EL version)?  I wonder if you had them at too high a pressure to feel 
>>>> the ride? I doubt it if you're already familiar with the Barlow Pass 
>>>> tires. 
>>>> One thing I noticed about the Baby Shoe Pass is how low the pressure could 
>>>> go without feeling sluggish. At the point where they are in danger of 
>>>> snakebite at every bump and they can't even corner right, they still feel 
>>>> fast. Non-supple tires feel deadly sluggish as soon as they're 

[RBW] Re: [BOB] For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

[Rod Holland]

I'm running the RTPs at 30 PSI front, 35 PSI rear on my Surly Trucker 
DeLuxe (I'm a 240lb rider). The tires are enough taller than the Compass 
1.75s that they replaced that I've nicknamed the bike "Monster Trucker". 
Concur re cornering. Slowly accumulating experience with these, thus far 
all on pavement, rough and smooth; will try other surfaces as the 
opportunity arises. Feels like getting a new bike...

rod

On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 8:28:05 AM UTC-4, Jeff wrote:
>
> I didn't get out on the longer, mixed surface ride that I'd hoped for, but 
> I have commuted on the XOXO a few times this week, and put in some bonus 
> miles over some rough urban roads and a bit of offroad stuff. I'm 
> definitely warming to the RTP's. The most significant performance feature 
> that I'm noticing at this point is the confident cornering these tires 
> allow. I feel like I can really lean the bike over significantly further in 
> higher-speed corners than I could with the 26x2 Kojaks I was running. The 
> nice round profile makes for confident and comfortable handling. I've 
> slowly let a bit of air out of each tire on each trip and this is generally 
> improving the just-riding-around feel of the tires, but I'm still not 
> feeling the love and devotion that I have for the Barlow Pass and Babyshoe 
> Pass tires on my other bikes. Maybe it's the bike. Hopefully I'll get out 
> on a longer trip this weekend and can report further findings.
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Jeff Lesperance  > wrote:
>
>> I have the standard, not EL version of the RTP's, and I may have had them 
>> a bit higher pressure than what I'll eventually land at. I started with 
>> about 50 psi on the rear and 45 on the front. About halfway through my ~8 
>> mile ride through a mostly urban area, I stopped and let a minimal, 
>> unmeasured amount of air out of each tire.
>>
>> I think the XOXO is a relatively peppy ride, in my experience. I don't 
>> pay attention to angles, trail and other metrics, I just know when things 
>> feel different and if I like the ride or not. Compared to my Riv bikes, the 
>> XOXO has, had, almost twitchy front-end handling and jumps forward from a 
>> stopped position. I think it's lower trail than my Rivs and has either 
>> shorter chainstays or steeper seat tube or both. I think the introduction 
>> of the RTP's changes the trail (pneumatic trail?), slowing down the 
>> steering response a bit, and in some way, has deadened my acceleration 
>> feeling from a stop. I say carefully there "feeling" as I didn't actually 
>> time anything. 
>>
>> I'll get out for a mixed surface ride tomorrow suburban streets -> urban 
>> streets -> hard-packed/rutted dirt/gravel -> mixed gravel/dirt/sand and 
>> play with the PSI, with a pump with a pressure gauge handy, to see if I can 
>> find nirvana with these tires. 
>>
>> -Jeff
>> Silver Spring, MD
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 9:33 PM, mitch  
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 6:30:54 PM UTC-6, Jeff wrote:


 ...My initial reaction is that I'm a bit underwhelmed with the tires. I 
 ride the 700x38 Barlow Pass on my Sam Hillborne and 650bx42 Babyshoe Pass 
 on my Homer, and they are life-changing tires on those bikes. I didn't 
 have 
 an epiphany while riding the Rat Trap Pass for the first time, but we'll 
 see how they do with a long mixed surface ride this weekend and a week of 
 commuting...


>>> Remind us what pressure you used for your test ride (and if you're RTPS 
>>> are EL version)?  I wonder if you had them at too high a pressure to feel 
>>> the ride? I doubt it if you're already familiar with the Barlow Pass tires. 
>>> One thing I noticed about the Baby Shoe Pass is how low the pressure could 
>>> go without feeling sluggish. At the point where they are in danger of 
>>> snakebite at every bump and they can't even corner right, they still feel 
>>> fast. Non-supple tires feel deadly sluggish as soon as they're below a 
>>> relatively high pressure. In other words as soon as you have to flex the 
>>> sidewalls noticeably, they complain. I've wondered whether the big RTPs 
>>> would feel too bouncy. I know the BSP ELs felt bouncy at first so I wonder 
>>> what twice the volume will feel like. 
>>>
>>> --Mitch
>>>
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[RBW] Re: What's in your garage?

[Rod Holland]

In mine, two Surlys (a 700c LHT and a 26 Trucker DeLuxe travel bike with 
couplers), a new Rawland Nordavinden, and a 1987 GT Karakoram rigid mtb, 
illustrating the designed-in-USA-made-in-Taiwan rut I've been in since the 
late 80s, along with my consort's Raleigh hybrid, designed in the UK and 
made somewhere. The LHT has gone 10x farther than any of the others, the GT 
wears Nokians and does icebike duty to keep me riding in the Massachusetts 
winters, and the Trucker DeLuxe and the Nordavinden are recent builds that 
have been getting more road time lately. Various Rivish parts and concepts 
on all of them (arguably extending to the LHT frame geometry, of course), 
just to keep this OT.

rod

On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 8:25:31 PM UTC-4, murphyjrfk wrote:

 I always wonder-i betcha there are a lot of cool bikes around. And right 
 now I have a lot of bikes. I feel a bit self indulgent but I don't feel too 
 bad when I think of the use. I have a pretty bikey family, a bike job 
 and live in a great city to ride bikes in. I don't drive much either-like 
 under 2k miles a year so that makes me feel even less guilty. But i'll 
 start in order of importance.-well at least my order. 

 51 sage green Sam. Best bike ever. Get's used every day. 
 54 orange quickbeam. Super duper fun. 
 Cannondale Adventure 2 step through hybrid. Permanent baby seat gets used 
 a lot. 
 Electra Townie 7d. My wife's ride which is super fun. 
 1969 Schwinn Twinn-which my oldest daughter (8) thinks is the coolest bike 
 ever. Mostly because she doesn't have to pedal. And it has baskets for all 
 her dolls. 
 Jamis Capri 24 that's my oldest daughters ride. Fine little bike. First 
 one she got to pick out all by herself. I asked her why she likes it 
 best-she said it makes me feel like I'm a teenager-I'm in trouble. 
 Surly LHT which usually sees super nasty weather duty. I'm not sure if 
 I'll hang on to that one but it's a good bike so I probably will. 

 Needless to say we have never had a car in our garage. My wife stopped 
 complaining a while ago. So I guess it's ok. 

 I hope others play along. 

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[RBW] Jan and Grant both like Tabatas

[Rod Holland]

*chuckle*

That's the functional equivalent of hearing it from a burn1ng bush, at least as 
far as bicycle matters are concerned. Explains why I was out doing Tabatas in 
the heat and humidity yesterday evening...

rod

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[RBW] Re: In praise of the Big Apple 26

[Rod Holland]

I've been happy for two seasons with 26 x 2.15 Big Bens, sibling tires to 
the Big Apples with a modest tread pattern. They seem to roll over 
anything. While I expect I'll be putting the Compass Rat Trap Pass tires on 
a couple of bikes when they become available, I'll probably leave the Big 
Bens on the old GT rigid mtb I run them on, which does city bike/dirt bike 
duty in the Summer, ice bike duty (with studded Nokians) in the Winter. 
It's good to have at least one bike that feels bomb-proof.

rod

On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 9:21:13 AM UTC-4, George Schick wrote:

 I'll throw in another plug for the Big Apples.  I've had a pair of 'em on 
 my Surly 1x1 for about 10 years now - run across broken glass and all sorts 
 of other road debris without any issues.  Looks like the only thing that 
 will require a change is when they get completely worn through the casings. 
  I just hope they don't stop making them.  Seems like I've run into a whole 
 series of things lately that really work well only find out they've been 
 discontinued...

 On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 11:46:50 AM UTC-5, WETH wrote:

 The rear Schwalbe Big Apple 26x2.15 flatted overnight--a first after 
 thousands of miles on this and a previous set of Big Apples.  After 
 removing the wheel, I inspected the tire for any obvious damage and 
 discovered a staple/wire embedded in the tire.  After decreeing proudly to 
 my wife that I had discovered the problem, I removed the tire and tube to 
 discover to my amazement that the staple had not penetrated through the 
 tread into the tube!  That is one tough tire!  Of course this left the 
 mystery as to the cause of the flat.  I felt nothing else sharp inside the 
 tire, so I inflated the tube again.  I heard the hiss of escaping air on 
 the opposite side of the tube from the staple.  Upon inspection, it appears 
 the Sunlite 26x1.9-2.35 tube had worn out.  Ironically (?), last week I had 
 discussed with my LBS the shelf life of tubes. 
 I had thought about trying different tires when these wore out, but now I 
 am not so sure!  The Big Apple, though a bit slow, is a tough and 
 comfortable tire.  Photos to document the experience: 



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[RBW] Re: Searching for a cheapo saddle with B17 like fit

[Rod Holland]

+1. I have WTB SSTs on 4 bikes, they work nicely for all-day rides. Even 
when they're out of stock, I've found it's possible to find them online 
here and there.

rod

On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 7:47:11 PM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 Keep an eye out for the old WTB SST saddles - the ones with the melted 
 looking nose.  Those were pretty close, fairly unpadded (though they made a 
 monster number of derivations of it over the years).

 Wish I'd known - I had a set of three or four old, nasty, peeling, SST's 
 which I donated to the local recyclery a while back.  

 - Jim


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[RBW] Re: U-LOCK TOTE ??

[Rod Holland]

Looks nice. I just tuck mine into the rear rack, where it rattles around a 
bit when I hit a bump...

rod

On Thursday, June 18, 2015 at 10:30:05 PM UTC-4, Jon Dukeman in the 
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 Anyone use one of these? Or do you put your U-LOCK   in your bag?
 Jon


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[RBW] Thin Gripsters and Birkenstocks

[Rod Holland]

Tried this combination on the spur of the moment. I'm pleased to report it 
worked surprisingly well.

rod

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[RBW] Re: Jan reports on new Compass tire prototypes

[Rod Holland]

Hurrah!

rod

On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 9:23:06 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Looks like Jan got his first production prototypes for two new anticipated 
 tire models.  Even fatter road/gravel tires in 559x54 and 584x48.

 https://janheine.wordpress.com/

 Now you need two new bikes to fit these tires!


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[RBW] Re: Man those Barlow Pass are Smooooooth!

[Rod Holland]

So, I got a little suspicious, and had another look at the rear tire. Turns 
out it was quite dusty after a 70-mile ride, and after a little cleaning, 
the file tread was still there, albeit somewhat ablated. So much for 
semi-slick; sorry to for the misinformation. Now I'm considering doing 
Jan's maneuver of swapping the tires, back with front.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0Xnkf9NgnaU/VXMnPv40VTI/YfY/wDEnKRzdBGw/s800/20150606_125745.jpg
rod

On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 8:58:03 AM UTC-4, Rod Holland wrote:

 Good question. I went out and had a look.

 The front tire looks newish, its file tread generally intact. The rear 
 tire has turned into a semi-slick, but hasn't yet started showing the 
 frequent-flats behavior that Jan associates with a Compass tire at the end 
 of its service life, and my sense is that it will last me the season.


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WVmUwhpZSHw/VXGZBaNQZiI/YeU/jA90Zp7KNsE/s800/20150605_083728.jpg
  
 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Vr3MVfoZqGE/VXGZIapuwtI/Yes/Ps918VOs_mE/s800/20150605_083754.jpg

 I expect at some time I'll rotate the front tire to the rear, and retire 
 the rear tire. I'll either order a new Barlow Pass (love 'em!) for the 
 front, or will experiment with Soma C-lines that I bought, but never 
 mounted, the same winter I got the Barlows. By the time spring came, I had 
 both, mounted the Barlows, and never looked back...

 rod

 On Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 2:39:30 PM UTC-4, Edwin W wrote:

 Rod, 
 How's the wear after 1600 miles?



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[RBW] Re: Man those Barlow Pass are Smooooooth!

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Yah, generally run the front 10 PSI less than the rear, currently 45/55 for 
a typical ride. I've gone for weeks at a time at either 40/50 or 40/45, and 
conversely spent some time running them 50/60. I was running the front at 
35 for awhile, and stopped doing that after I got a pinch flat during a 
fast sprint while I was leaning out over the bars. To make sense of these 
numbers, it's worth mentioning that I weigh ~240, and the bike is an LHT, 
which often carries a light load (trunk bag) for long rides. At 45 PSI, the 
front tire has some noticeable deformation; at 40, it's somewhat more 
noticeable.

rod

On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 9:04:01 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:

 for that difference in contact patch, you could run the front pressure 
 much lower

 On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 7:58:03 AM UTC-5, Rod Holland wrote:

 Good question. I went out and had a look.

 The front tire looks newish, its file tread generally intact. The rear 
 tire has turned into a semi-slick, but hasn't yet started showing the 
 frequent-flats behavior that Jan associates with a Compass tire at the end 
 of its service life, and my sense is that it will last me the season.


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WVmUwhpZSHw/VXGZBaNQZiI/YeU/jA90Zp7KNsE/s800/20150605_083728.jpg
  
 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Vr3MVfoZqGE/VXGZIapuwtI/Yes/Ps918VOs_mE/s800/20150605_083754.jpg

 I expect at some time I'll rotate the front tire to the rear, and retire 
 the rear tire. I'll either order a new Barlow Pass (love 'em!) for the 
 front, or will experiment with Soma C-lines that I bought, but never 
 mounted, the same winter I got the Barlows. By the time spring came, I had 
 both, mounted the Barlows, and never looked back...

 rod

 On Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 2:39:30 PM UTC-4, Edwin W wrote:

 Rod, 
 How's the wear after 1600 miles?



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[RBW] Re: Man those Barlow Pass are Smooooooth!

[Rod Holland]

Speaking of which... at what pressures are folks running their Barlows, and 
for what sorts of riding? Mine get used for mixed terrain: lots of road, 
but most rides have either dirt/gravel sections or frank single track.

rod

On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 9:12:13 AM UTC-4, Rod Holland wrote:

 Yah, generally run the front 10 PSI less than the rear, currently 45/55 
 for a typical ride. I've gone for weeks at a time at either 40/50 or 40/45, 
 and conversely spent some time running them 50/60. I was running the front 
 at 35 for awhile, and stopped doing that after I got a pinch flat during a 
 fast sprint while I was leaning out over the bars. To make sense of these 
 numbers, it's worth mentioning that I weigh ~240, and the bike is an LHT, 
 which often carries a light load (trunk bag) for long rides. At 45 PSI, the 
 front tire has some noticeable deformation; at 40, it's somewhat more 
 noticeable.

 rod

 On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 9:04:01 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:

 for that difference in contact patch, you could run the front pressure 
 much lower

 On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 7:58:03 AM UTC-5, Rod Holland wrote:

 Good question. I went out and had a look.

 The front tire looks newish, its file tread generally intact. The rear 
 tire has turned into a semi-slick, but hasn't yet started showing the 
 frequent-flats behavior that Jan associates with a Compass tire at the end 
 of its service life, and my sense is that it will last me the season.


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WVmUwhpZSHw/VXGZBaNQZiI/YeU/jA90Zp7KNsE/s800/20150605_083728.jpg
  
 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Vr3MVfoZqGE/VXGZIapuwtI/Yes/Ps918VOs_mE/s800/20150605_083754.jpg

 I expect at some time I'll rotate the front tire to the rear, and retire 
 the rear tire. I'll either order a new Barlow Pass (love 'em!) for the 
 front, or will experiment with Soma C-lines that I bought, but never 
 mounted, the same winter I got the Barlows. By the time spring came, I had 
 both, mounted the Barlows, and never looked back...

 rod

 On Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 2:39:30 PM UTC-4, Edwin W wrote:

 Rod, 
 How's the wear after 1600 miles?



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[RBW] Re: Man those Barlow Pass are Smooooooth!

[Rod Holland]

Good question. I went out and had a look.

The front tire looks newish, its file tread generally intact. The rear tire 
has turned into a semi-slick, but hasn't yet started showing the 
frequent-flats behavior that Jan associates with a Compass tire at the end 
of its service life, and my sense is that it will last me the season.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WVmUwhpZSHw/VXGZBaNQZiI/YeU/jA90Zp7KNsE/s800/20150605_083728.jpg
 
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Vr3MVfoZqGE/VXGZIapuwtI/Yes/Ps918VOs_mE/s800/20150605_083754.jpg

I expect at some time I'll rotate the front tire to the rear, and retire 
the rear tire. I'll either order a new Barlow Pass (love 'em!) for the 
front, or will experiment with Soma C-lines that I bought, but never 
mounted, the same winter I got the Barlows. By the time spring came, I had 
both, mounted the Barlows, and never looked back...

rod

On Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 2:39:30 PM UTC-4, Edwin W wrote:

 Rod, 
 How's the wear after 1600 miles?

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[RBW] Re: Man those Barlow Pass are Smooooooth!

[Rod Holland]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YMynUgiiLjs/VWpdSVrU57I/YVI/GsyE6EnXxws/s800/20150530_142857.jpg

rod
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YMynUgiiLjs/VWpdSVrU57I/YVI/GsyE6EnXxws/s800/20150530_142857.jpg
Amen! 1600 miles on mine (Extralights, blackwall). Nothing but good to say 
about them.


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 Quickbeam got some new shoes. These are delicious.

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/18243233060/in/dateposted-public/

 With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Man those Barlow Pass are Smooooooth!

[Rod Holland]

Amen! 1600 miles on mine (Extralight, blackwall). Nothing but good to say 
about them.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YMynUgiiLjs/VWpdSVrU57I/YVI/GsyE6EnXxws/s800/20150530_142857.jpg
rod


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 Quickbeam got some new shoes. These are delicious.

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/18243233060/in/dateposted-public/

 With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Random thoughts on comfort, speed, and wool in hot weather

[Rod Holland]

I've worn Smart Wool microweight tee shirts on 60+-mile rides in 96 degF 
temperatures with high relative humidity. They wicked and evaporated the 
way they're s'posed. Rode a lot, drank a lot, sweated a lot. I've also had 
good luck in the heat (high 80s/low 90s, muggy) with the short-sleeve MUSA 
merino wool jersey from rivbikes. Thank you, sheep!

rod

On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 5:57:36 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Fighting what I hope is a fugitive cold, my ride this afternoon was very 
 brief, 10.5 miles, out 'n' back on the bike path, on the gofast. Breezy, 6 
 miles or so in the hooks, thinking about comfort.

 In a way, sure, sitting upright is more comfortable, but on the other 
 hand, riding at anything over 8 mph into a 10 mph headwind sitting bolt 
 upright would be, for me, very uncomfortable, for quads and butt 
 especially, and, I daresay, for shoulders and neck as well; as would be 
 shoving unnecessary weight and rolling resistance down the road. Believe 
 me, knobs on a 29 front tire *do* catch a headwind!

 The gofast just responds so efficiently to pedal strokes -- I averaged 16+ 
 outbound and 17+ return, keeping my effort down because (especially toward 
 the end) I could feel the cold dragging me down.

 I'm not really boasting -- I'm much slower than I was 10 years ago, and a 
 young 40 something with aero bars left me behind at a 5 mph differential; 
 but it is to me rather remarkable how efficient light, nice-rolling wheels 
 and efficient position feel, even when you are taking it easy.

 Upshot: there is more than one way to have fun on a bike.

 Tomorrow, God willing, I'll feel up to a nice 1-2 hour ride, off- and 
 onroad, on the Fargo.

 In other news: 86*F, granted only 10% humidity, but a standard weight 
 merino ss jersey felt pretty good -- feels pretty good as I sit inside and 
 type. I'm experimenting to see how hot I can wear good wool; I really hate 
 synthetics, which stink after 15 minutes, and I'd rather wear something 
 that doesn't flap in the wind, as long as it's comfortable.

 Back to resumes and LI profiles.

 Patrick cough, cough Moore, who is rediscovering the pleasures of his 
 gofast.

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[RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos or Sam Hillborne with Surly LHT parts

[Rod Holland]

+1 for the tires. Assuming you're starting with a 700C LHT, either the 
Compass 38mm or 32mm tires will transform the ride. Don't be afraid of the 
Extralight version.

rod

On Tuesday, May 19, 2015 at 7:51:50 PM UTC-4, Tony McG wrote:

 I don't have much experience with the Sam, but my San Marcos is a much 
 nicer ride than my LHT.  You may want to try different tires before you buy 
 another frame.

 BTW, your LHT brakes won't fit on the San Marcos or the newer Sams.

 On Tuesday, May 19, 2015 at 6:40:58 PM UTC-5, Mike Troxell wrote:

 I have a Surly LHT that I am very happy with. The problem is that I want 
 something that I can do light tours and club/group rides (not racing) with 
 but that is a bit livelier than the LHT. How do you think a San Marcos or 
 Sam Hillborne would ride if I bought the frame and swapped the LHT's 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki on it's way back

[Rod Holland]

Tony,

Do you think the Nitto M-18 or Mark's Rack share this failure mode?

rod

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Re: [RBW] Re: BQ to publish study of pedal retention usefulness in Summer issue

[Rod Holland]

Anne,

Sounds like the guy forgot to unclip his mouth from his Y chromosome... 
That causes any number of accidents...

rod

On Saturday, May 16, 2015 at 10:09:13 AM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote:

 Is this mansplaining, or does this happen to you, too: 

 I was out riding my Surly Krampus on some fire roads that are, to be 
 honest, too steep for me. So I was doing a lot of walking. But that's 
 OK, I don't mind walking. 

 At the top, I came upon three guys who had ridden up the other side, 
 the easy way. We got to chatting, and, as often happened, they asked 
 me about my bike. I have flats on the bike. And then one of the guys 
 took it upon himself to tell me I should start riding clipless. He 
 explained that clipless would make my pedalling stronger, yadda, 
 yadda. 

 I answered politely, but I was furious. It should have been obvious to 
 him that my bike was carefully chosen: it has 3 tires, a belt drive, 
 a dynamo and a Rohloff hub. This is not a bike that one can can buy 
 off the shop floor; it's a custom bike, and one that he should have 
 realized I chose after careful consideration. Why, then, did he assume 
 that a rider who had ridden for 40 years, and who had carefully chosen 
 all the parts of her bike, would be ignorant of clipless pedals, and 
 that somehow flats got on my bike by accident? 

 Don't be a jerk. Don't assume that riders who make different choices 
 than you do don't know what they're doing. And don't assume that women 
 automatically need the benefit of your superior knowledge. 

 On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 5:15 AM, Garth gart...@gmail.com javascript: 
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   good read : 
  
 http://www.bikejames.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Flat-Pedal-Revolution-Manifesto.pdf
  
  
  from here : 
  
 http://www.bikejames.com/strength/the-flat-pedal-revolution-manifesto-how-to-improve-your-riding-with-flat-pedals/
  
  
  
  You don't have to change your mind and thinking  nor can you truly . 
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[RBW] Re: Puncture resistance only goes so far.

[Rod Holland]

Very true. But this particular April fish just naturally seemed to fit here...

Just in case anyone would actually want such a thing, these folks apparently 
sell 'em: 

http://www.airlesstiresnow.com/Bicycle-Tires_c_172.html

rod

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[RBW] Puncture resistance only goes so far.

[Rod Holland]

Perhaps it's time for a pair of Compass Lark Pass tires?

https://janheine.wordpress.com/2015/04/01/compass-introduces-solid-rubber-tires/

rod

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[RBW] Re: Puncture resistance only goes so far.

[Rod Holland]

;-)

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[RBW] Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

[Rod Holland]

Related question: 36h or 32h wheels?

rod

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[RBW] Re: LHT vs Clem ??

[Rod Holland]

What tires are you running on the LHT? I've found that light, supple tires 
completely transform the ride experience of that bike, compared to the 
armored touring tires commonly used. Try a set of Compass Barlow Pass 
before you write it off.

rod

On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 9:05:55 PM UTC-4, alan lavine wrote:

 Evening All,

 I have a Surly LHT that I've used for fully loaded touring, and have loved 
 it for that purpose.  However, when lightly loaded or not at all, I find 
 the ride stiff, rigid, almost leaden (is that a word ?)  For various 
 reasons, I probably will not be doing that kind of touring going forward, 
 probably just light credit card touring. So I'm thinking that the Clem I 
 pre-ordered might be a better choice for that purpose.  Is there enough 
 known about the Clem's geometry, tubing diameters and thickness to make 
 that decision?  Certainly the long chainstays will make for a more 
 forgiving ride.  So does it make sense for me to take all the LHT's stock 
 components and mount them on the Clem and call it my new light touring bike?

 Awaiting the collective wisdom of the group...if the answer is yes, I'll 
 have a 58 cm LHT frame to sell.

 Thanks,
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Re: [RBW] LHT vs Clem ??

[Rod Holland]

One suggestion: if you haven't tried Compass Barlow Pass or other light, 
supple tires on the LHT, you might want to do so. It could change your 
perception of the unloaded ride. What tires are you running now?

rod

On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 9:17:44 PM UTC-4, James Warren wrote:

 Yes.

  

 And the way to optimize the Clem will be to use either the Bosco bars or 
 the Albatross. I'm a firm believer of the theory that as the bars bring you 
 more upright, it makes sense for the rear of the bike to get longer. So if 
 you're used to drops on the LHT, you might want to change that to uprights 
 on the Clem, because it will be way longer in the rear.

  

 But as far as the bike being ready for anything, I fully believe it. I 
 have a Hunqapillar that I absolutely love for touring with its Bosco bars 
 and 46 cm chainstays. Your chainstays will be longer. The smooth ride makes 
 me never care if it is heavy or light.

  

 Have fun,

 Jim W.

 -Original Message- 
 From: alan lavine 
 Sent: Mar 19, 2015 6:05 PM 
 To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 Subject: [RBW] LHT vs Clem ?? 

 Evening All,

 I have a Surly LHT that I've used for fully loaded touring, and have loved 
 it for that purpose.  However, when lightly loaded or not at all, I find 
 the ride stiff, rigid, almost leaden (is that a word ?)  For various 
 reasons, I probably will not be doing that kind of touring going forward, 
 probably just light credit card touring. So I'm thinking that the Clem I 
 pre-ordered might be a better choice for that purpose.  Is there enough 
 known about the Clem's geometry, tubing diameters and thickness to make 
 that decision?  Certainly the long chainstays will make for a more 
 forgiving ride.  So does it make sense for me to take all the LHT's stock 
 components and mount them on the Clem and call it my new light touring bike?

 Awaiting the collective wisdom of the group...if the answer is yes, I'll 
 have a 58 cm LHT frame to sell.

 Thanks,
 Alan

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[RBW] Re: Go fast-ish tires on the Hillborne

[Rod Holland]

Uh, I think it's the Elk Pass that's available in Extralight only, not the 
Rat Trap Pass (BQ, Spring 2015, page 4).

rod

On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 12:01:19 PM UTC-4, Richard L. wrote:


 The Spring 2015 Bicycle Quarterly indicates there will be a Compass 35 - 
 622 tire, the Bon Jon Pass.  The tire's not yet shown on the Compass web 
 site, and there is no availability date in the magazine. 

 Other new tire offerings per the magazine are:  55-559, Rat Trap 
 Pass (Extralight only); 48-584, Switchback Hill; and 32-559, Elk Pass.



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[RBW] Re: Spring thaw...for real?!?!?!

[Rod Holland]

After a month with lots of cold and snow and no thaws to speak of--fun if 
you were running aggressive treads and studs--we're now getting a rapid 
cycle of thaw/freeze that seems perfect for giving bike paths a rutted ice 
surface: nasty. The roads are a marginally better bet, clear of snow and 
(after mid-morning) ice, but with damaged pavement, diminished width, 
impaired sight-lines, and snarky drivers for whom the novel conditions seem 
to be an invitation to improvise right-of-way algorithms. Seems to me that 
the real Winter was more fun, the true Spring will be lots more fun, and 
this period is just a necessary evil to get from one to the other.

rod

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On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 5:13:43 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:

 Temps in the 40s in CT today. Good for a 73 mile ride. The 200k I had 
 planned on yesterday in DC was cancelled due to Thursday's heavy snow. My 
 next opportu is in two weeks, again in DC. My goodness the roads are in 
 atrocious condition out here. My Compass Stampede Pass tires did great, 
 though. Check out the pothole! Must be aware at all times or I'll be 
 calling Peter White for a new wheel! 






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[RBW] Re: Vittoria Voager Hyper Tires on Long Low.

[Rod Holland]

My understanding is that they are the same tires, rebadged a couple of years 
ago.

rod

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Re: [RBW] Re: Compass 26 × 1.75 Feedback requested

[Rod Holland]

I'd certainly welcome (read, buy) a wider version of these tires. I'd also 
go for an Extralight version (that might require a change to the tread, 
however).

rod

On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 2:51:54 PM UTC-5, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:

 Jan's article on what he dubbed a 90% bicycle or something like that led 
 me to believe that he at least sees the need for a wider version of this 
 tire.  I don't know if the demand is there for him to justify doing it 
 though.   



 On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 12:32:50 PM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

 Hi Hugh,
 I've used Compass 26x1.75 and Big Bens on my Hunqapillar. The Compass 
 tires are noticeably faster-- 40-min commute goes down to 35-min. (I have 
 to stop at lots of traffic lights, so maybe it's due to faster 
 acceleration?)

 I've used Compass and Big Bens about a year each in Boston-area roads 
 (potholes, debris) and packed dirt trails. No problems with either. 

 The Big Bens are larger volume. Their sidewalls seem to-be sturdier 
 than the Compass. I can't say whether that translates to fewer flats or 
 reduced chance of sidewall cuts compared to the Compass.

 I highly recommend either tire for these road and trail conditions. I do 
 wish the Compass were wider... and I know others feel that way from a 
 previous thread. That might make a difference for you on your journey. 
 Also, the Compass folds nicely for a spare.

 I've been using the Schwalbe extralight inner tubes, and they've been 
 fine. If you're going to embrace your inner weight weenie, I'd add them to 
 the list, too.

 Happy riding!
 Shoji 


 On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 1:19:18 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 MIke, Erl, Rod, Aaron and Chris, thanks so far for the feedback. 

 I'm leaning towards the Compass as I'll be doing a long tour this 
 Summer. I originally figured the WTB All Terrains would be fine for mixed 
 terrain riding and they are but I'm rethinking the whole weight penalty 
 thing these days.Yeah I'm thinking like a weight weenie, and my truth is 
 the lighter the load along with less tire rolling resistance the happier 
 I'll be. 

 Again thanks for the feedback and others please let me know your 
 experiences with this tire.

 Cheers

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/



 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Pondero cj.sp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great question, Hugh.  If I ever decide my Holy Rollers are overkill 
 for my Atlantis (for longer rides), the Compass tires are what I have in 
 the back of my mind.  Sounds like good reports so far.

 Chris Johnson
 Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] Re: Compass 26 × 1.75 Feedback requested

[Rod Holland]

I run Compass 1.75 on one bike, 2.15 Big Ben's on another (how I ended up 
with two 26 inch bikes is a long story). I run both on mixed terrain, with 
good results. The Compass tires spin up faster, and I use them for day-long 
rides (75+ miles) with a mix of pavement and trails. The Big Bens will 
pretty much roll over anything, and I tend to use them where that will be 
helpful: think monster truck.

rod

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[RBW] Re: Winter Welcome Wagon [Share Your Pics]

[Rod Holland]

Thanks, John. Come summer, it gets a pair of 2.15 Schwalbe Big Bens and goes 
bouncing over things in the woods.

rod

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[RBW] Re: Winter Welcome Wagon [Share Your Pics]

[Rod Holland]

My annual sacrifice to the icy, salty Eastern Massachusetts winter: a 1987 
GT Karakoram rigid frame mtb running studded Nokian W240 26 x 1.75 tires. 
Good, cold fun.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_l4l2XBvUIw/VLF7uz0oOoI/VZs/aCQscb3uqCI/s800/20150110_132432.jpg


rod

On Monday, December 1, 2014 at 9:13:47 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Share some pic's of your bikes kitted out for winter!  

 

 Here is my XO-3 (26 wheeled) as ready as I can make her. 
 http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/12/winter-welcome-wagon.html

 '93 XO-3, 59cm
 Single Speed via WI ENO Hub
 Nokian MG 26x1.95 Studded Tires
 Alba cockpit w/ Paul levers
 Lot's of orphaned parts from around the garage



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[RBW] Favorite weather to ride in.

[Rod Holland]

For me, it's not so much the temperature that's a factor as the length of the 
day. Here in Eastern Massachusetts it gets dark astonishingly early by the late 
Fall and through the Winter. While I'm happy enough to ride at night, I find 
that that puts a limit on the length of my rides at those seasons, regardless 
of the weather. Conversely, the long days of Summer seem to beg for long rides.

rod

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

[Rod Holland]

Aside from a bit of winter riding (aside from snow shoveling, my only 
winter sport)...

Work with my LBS to build up a Rawland Nordavinden framset.

Practice breaking down, packing, unpacking, and reassembling my S and S 
coupled travel bike until I get the process down well enough to actually 
travel with it without second thoughts.

rod

On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 5:37:11 AM UTC-5, ascpgh wrote:

 Riding, besides my commutes, get a bit scant from here on out through 
 winter. The season, the holidays, more deliberate prep for a trip in the 
 conditions, plenty of things distract from just a nice ride but I realize 
 that at this time every year I always seem to contemplate a bike project to 
 go with the anticipated springtime, fruition or not. It's biking fun for 
 the extra bandwidth.

 My project is a low trail, 650b wheeled, all-around bike made with a 
 lively tube set (versus sturdy for touring) with drop bars, center pull 
 brakes, generator hub, LED lighting. All on a budget recognizing the value 
 of experience, unlike the box bike/mass market interpretation, handmade 
 wheels versus machine made ones as an example. I am reading and including 
 many posting subjects and items in this project and admit that may not 
 reach reality, but it's fun to have on the drawing board.

 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh


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[RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

[Rod Holland]

Five.tens and wide feet are an iffy proposition. I've had one pair of my 
five.tens stretched, which helped a bit, and tried ordering the next pair 
one size up, which also helped a bit. They work so well that I've probably 
ignored that a bit more than I should, but did end up giving one pair to my 
son, whom the fit better than they fit me (he got an old bike on that 
basis, too...). The New Balance Minimus, on the other hand, fit very 
comfortably with a 4E last, but they're Summer shoes. I'm thinking of 
having a cobbler put a five.ten sole on an old pair of New Balance boots. 
If that works, I'll post the results on this thread.

rod

On Monday, December 1, 2014 10:56:27 AM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote:

 Thanks for all the feedback.  The Five Tens and Chromes look interesting 
 for sneaker substitutes.  Found several online retailers selling last 
 year's colors at a deep discount.  Has anyone tried Five Ten Guide Tennies? 
  Would love to find a retailer near Niles Canyon where I can try them on 
 and see if they fit my wide feet (some of the reviews imply that they might 
 not).  When I need something more substantial, I may spring for those 
 Heritage Chukkas.  Love the look and I've had a pair of Red Wing boots for 
 welding that are 10+ years old and still going strong!

 John

 On Monday, November 17, 2014 6:17:16 AM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:

 I've been using sneakers by Puma or Clarks when riding my Hillborne with 
 either a set of MKS Grip Kings or VP Thin Gripster pedals (which I highly 
 recommend!).  My feet sometimes ache after a long ride in squishy shoes. 
  Has anyone found a stiffer soled shoe that they like with sneaker pedals?

 Thanks,
 John



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[RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

[Rod Holland]

I've been riding Grip Kings and Thin Gripsters for several years now using 
five.ten 
Impact 
http://fiveten.com/products/footwear-detail/13874-impact-low-team-black 
shoes. The charm is the sole, which has a very high coefficient of sliding 
friction; this translates to great foot retention on the pedal, in all 
weather. The five.ten people also sell sheets of this sole material, for 
retrofits and custom applications. I've also had good luck with New Balance 
Minimus MX20BR cross-training shoes; I wear these in the summer: they're 
light, cool, and grippy.

rod

On Monday, November 17, 2014 9:17:16 AM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote:

 I've been using sneakers by Puma or Clarks when riding my Hillborne with 
 either a set of MKS Grip Kings or VP Thin Gripster pedals (which I highly 
 recommend!).  My feet sometimes ache after a long ride in squishy shoes. 
  Has anyone found a stiffer soled shoe that they like with sneaker pedals?

 Thanks,
 John


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[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa?

[Rod Holland]

Of course, it's worth noting that the biggest input to the ride signature for 
the LHT (comfy, stable) is its long chainstays/long wheelbase. Given that those 
attributes figure prominently in the pending River introductions,that might be 
food for thought for those who dislike the LHT's ride/handling...

rod

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[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa?

[Rod Holland]

You can teach that old dog some new tricks with some supple Compass tires. 
Been there, done that, liked the results.

rod

On Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:17:05 PM UTC-5, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:

 On Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:04:10 AM UTC-8, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:


 For the price point that has been discussed, it's going to be extremely 
 hard to beat a 26 Surly LHT, Troll or Ogre.


 The LHT rides like an old dog. I know because I ride one regularly as my 
 commuter/beater. A couple of friends whom I've tried to fit 
 bikes-to-budgets/usages also thought it was dull during test rides (without 
 me prompting at all). It's utilitarian and good value-for-money, but it's 
 not the first bike I'll pick if joy is a consideration. For my money, if 
 it's close in price and rides much better, it should be an (relatively) 
 easy sell.


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Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

[Rod Holland]

I've got two. Dandy steel bikes, 10,000 happy miles on one of them. No roaches 
on mine.

rod

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Re: [RBW] New Compass tires?

[Rod Holland]

Amen. I'm running the Compass Barlow Pass Extralight 38mm on my 700C LHT, 
and Compass 1.75 on my 26 Trucker DeLuxe (I know, two LHTs, call me 
eccentric). I ride both on all terrains, which in Eastern Massachusetts 
includes a ration of single track and plenty of rocky abandoned carriage 
roads, gravel in various form factors, and many, many miles of pavement. I 
suspect this represents a fairly typical use case for LHT owners running 
Jan's tires; last year, I ran the 32mm Grand Bois Cypres EL, actually 
bought a second pair against future need, then switched to the wider Barlow 
Pass when they became available and haven't looked back. 

I'd be happy to try a 42mm Compass tire on the 700C, and a 2 Compass on 
the 26, should Jan ever choose to make them; if he never does, I'll still 
be eternally grateful for the transforming effect of the tires he did make 
on these bikes: wow! 

One more wish, if wishes are being entertained: an Extralight variant of 
the Compass 1.75, if technically and commercially feasible, would be a 
wonderful thing.

Thanks, Jan!

rod

On Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:59:59 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On 09/04/2014 01:10 AM, Anne Paulson wrote: 
  A rider with a 29er who wants to do road or mixed terrain rides is the 
  use case for the Compass 700 x 38. They're not putting any 700 x 32 
  tires on those wide rims, or at least, they probably shouldn't. 

 Surely not the only use case.  There are plenty of Surly LHTs (and, of 
 course, Atlantises) out there that could benefit from nicer rubber.  I 
 see many more LHTs than I do 29ers. 



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Re: [RBW] New Compass tires?

[Rod Holland]

What's interesting is that your work is stimulating end-user 
experimentation with both tires (for the bikes we have) and bikes (bike n + 
1 will be 650B). Given the relative costs of both, the velocity of 
experimentation with new tires is much higher than the velocity of 
experimentation with new bikes.

rod

On Thursday, September 4, 2014 11:10:37 AM UTC-4, Jan Heine wrote:

 Perhaps it's useful to clarify:

 Having ridden the same bikes with 700C x 32 mm and 700C x 38 mm tires, I 
 prefer the wider tires. The extra air inside and the extra rubber on the 
 road really transform the bike. However, if I were to get a new bike, I'd 
 still spec it for 650B, as I prefer the handling of the slightly smaller 
 wheels. Too bad if that statement slows the sales of our Barlow Pass 700C x 
 38 mm tires... *Bicycle Quarterly* always has been about honest reports 
 of our findings, not about boosting sales.

 Jan Heine
 Editor
 Bicycle Quarterly


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Re: [RBW] New Compass tires?

[Rod Holland]

I fear Jan is requiring that we think of two or three things at once. 
Previously, he's laid out ranges of ideal tire size for specific wheel 
sizes, based on the effects of rotational inertia on steering, among other 
things (tire weight, air volume). For 700C, 32mm was the top of the range, 
driven principally by steering considerations. However, he just said that 
he prefers the 38mm tires over 32mm tires on 700C due to increased air 
volume and contact patch. This isn't a negation of the analysis based on 
steering, but rather (seems to me, Jan may have intended something else) a 
rider's pragmatic judgement that the virtues of big air and big contact 
trump a little bit of vice in the steering department. He further comments 
that he still prefers 650B for the width domain that includes 38mm and 
42mm, presumably because it gives you the virtues of wide tires without 
paying a steering tax. Jan's guidance seems to depend on whether you're 
buying a tire, or buying a bike AND a tire.

rod

On Thursday, September 4, 2014 11:36:58 AM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote:

 Jan, do you prefer the bike handling with 32mm tires (over 38mm tires) for 
 mid and high trail bikes, as well as for your low trail bikes?

 Philip
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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Big Ben opinions

[Rod Holland]

Last year, while building up a Surly Trucker DeLuxe, I ordered a pair of 
2.15 Big Bens and a pair of Compass 1.75. I put the Compass on the Surly, 
thinking I'd try switching the Big Bens in later, but absolutely fell in 
love with them--fast, agile, comfy, good on-road and off--and never swapped 
them. However, I couldn't stand to see the Big Bens go to waste, so I put 
them on my elderly GT Karakoram, circa 1987, a veteran rigid frame mountain 
bike that in recent years has been my winter icebiking ride, wearing 
studded Nokians; the big Schwalbe balloons give it something to do in the 
summer. The Big Bens are, indeed, delightful, good on the road and roll 
over the damnedest things on and off. They're heavier, and not quite as 
quick as the Compasses, but once they're rolling, angular momentum is your 
friend. Bottom line: you can't go wrong for mixed-terrain riding with 
either tire; each tire has lots of air volume (the Schwalbe has more), a 
moderate tread, and supple sidewalls (the Compass is somewhat more supple); 
if your balance is tilted a little more to off-road, you might want to go 
with the Big Bens, although the Compass will do fine there; if you value 
quickness on the road, you might want the Compass, although the Big Bens 
will be perfectly at home. If you're worried about puncture protection, the 
Schwalbes have it, the Compasses don't, but I've never had a flat on either 
(no goatheads in Massachusetts, but we do have beer bottles). In short, 
I've managed to avoid choosing, but in the process have determined that 
there are no wrong choices here, just nuances. One thought: it may be 
attributable to the contrasting nature of the frames I've mounted these two 
different tires on, but I have used the Compass tires for longer rides (by 
a factor of 2x, at least) than I have the Schwalbes; whether the added 
weight of the Schwalbes limits their utility for long rides is something I 
consider to be an open question; I simply don't know. I may have to swap 
the tires between the two bikes to settle the question for myself. Anybody 
do a century on Big Bens? How was it?

Finally: here's a ride report with the Big Ben 2.15 
http://www.bikeforums.net/northeast/518426-metro-boston-good-ride-today-149.html#post16907202,
 
and another ride report with the Compass 1.75 
http://www.bikeforums.net/northeast/518426-metro-boston-good-ride-today-122.html#post16161556
. 

Add me to the list of people who would go for a 2 Compass if it were 
offered.

rod

On Friday, July 11, 2014 6:53:04 PM UTC-4, Michael Ullmer wrote:

 Does anyone have any experience using Schwalbe Big Bens?  I am building up 
 an old Schwinn Paramount PDG 90 Riv style and want to have a wide tire that 
 is a cross between knobby and slick, something I can go offroad with but 
 also ride to that offroad location on the street without being too slow. 
 Has anyone used them in that past? Are there any other great tires I should 
 consider in roughly this width I should consider? How do Big Ben's compare 
 to the ride quality of a Compass tire? The widest mtb tire that Compass 
 offers is 1.75, compared to the 2.15 of the Big Ben. Further, does anyone 
 happen to have a pair of these they want to unload? 


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[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications

[Rod Holland]

Interesting. Thinking about my own bikes (700c Surly LHT, 26 Surly Trucker 
DeLuxe, old 26 GT Karakoram), I see a blending of the influences of three 
men: Grant Petersen, Jan Heine, and Peter White. It has been argued that 
the Surly LHT geometry was broadly derived from the Atlantis; whether 
that's true or not, the relaxed geometry/sturdy steel/wide tire clearance 
is certainly compatible with Grant's approach. I run Riv pedals (Grip Kings 
or Thin Gripsters) on all three bikes, Jan's tires on the two Surlys (38mm 
Compass Barlow Pass on the 700c, Compass 1.75 on the 26); on the GT, I 
run Rivish Schwalbe Big Bens in the warm weather, and studded Nokian W240s 
(courtesy of Peter White) during ice bike season. The GT Karakoram's 
original flat bars have been enhanced with Cane Creek bar ends, again 
courtesy of Peter White. The build of the Trucker DeLuxe included some 
Rivish components, including wide Nitto Noodles, a Sugino crank, and NOS 
Sun Tour friction shifters. 

Grant, Jan, and Peter, thanks for your sage guidance.

rod

On Sunday, June 22, 2014 12:02:29 AM UTC-4, Mathew Greiner wrote:

 I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate 
 at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the 
 trick, but that's something I don't have have, and probably won't anytime 
 real soon. Meanwhile, just about every other part of my bike was bought 
 from Rivendell. Tires, saddle, bar, grips, bar end Silvers, brakes, 
 fenders, double legger kickstand, multiple straps, a Saddlesack, and many 
 of my favorite wardrobe items. Bar tape and one or two accessories weren't 
 ordered from Riv, but are the brands sold there. There's twine wrapped in 
 more than a few places. I've read, recommended, and loaned both the latest 
 RBW catalog and *Just Ride.* A hatchet and some camping bits are likely 
 to be ordered soon. 
  Is there a component percentage or a ratio of parts by mass that 
 determine how Rivvy a bike is? Now, I'm sure I can call myself an iBOB, but 
 as Google Groups go, the tone here is more comfortable. No one will quibble 
 if I lurk or occasionally suggest that if Riv describes a hunk-O-cheese as 
 a good thing to put in a Sackville pannier, then cheese should be On Topic, 
 but am I a Riv Owner? Not exactly, but I'd like to think that if I mailed a 
 postcard to HQ, they'd reply with the same.


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[RBW] FS: 58.5cm Curt built Riv Custom F/F/HS/FD

[Rod Holland]

Beautiful bike. What tire clearance?

rod

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