Re: [RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

[Steven Frederick]

Well...maybe not for everyone.  Moving my saddle forward to near KOPS cured
some nagging lower back pain for me.  I happily use zero setback posts on
all my bikes, which are mostly 73 degree seat tubes give or take 1/2
degree.  Steve

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 4:33 PM James / Analog Cycles 
wrote:

> A few things about drop bars on Riv's, shortening reach to bars, and short
> stems.
>
>1. Putting a zero offset post on your bike is not a valid way to
>shorten reach.  It's like cutting the toe box out of your shoes because
>they're too short.  The answer isn't shoe destruction, it's to get shoes
>that fit.  Zero offset posts make zero sense unless your bike has a really
>slack seat angle to begin with.  The following is from a forthcoming
>article on Tanglefoot Cycles' website, which I wrote.  "
>
> In the years between 1890 and 1905, bike geometry made a shift.
>Bikes in the early 1890’s had really steep seat angles and really short
>chainstays, geometry not far from today’s ‘trail bikes’.  In the years that
>followed, bike geometry grew up. It settled on angles that reflected the
>use of the bike for longer and rougher trips.  Bike makers needed to modify
>angles until folks could ride long, hard rides, over really bad terrain.
>Slowly, then allofasudden, angles looked normal.  The Wright Brothers Van
>Cleve, a really nice looking all arounder, has a seat angle that we’d
>recognize today as a normal, riding position. Tanglefoot recognizes the
>importance of this riding position.  People have not physically changed
>much in 100 years. The riding position that worked for long, hard rides is
>still the riding position we need today. Steep seat angles were discarded
>through 20 years of experimentation a long time ago.  We don’t need to
>relearn the lesson. It’s already been learned.
>
>By 1900, cycling had transitioned from a rich person’s hobby to a
>serious means of transportation.  The first roads in the US to be paved
>were not paved because of cars, but because cyclists demanded better
>surfaces to ride on. Bike racing became incredibly popular, including long
>endurance track races and long distance road races.  Bike riding clubs
>started up all over the country. Riders routinely rode long distances in
>these club rides, riding from town to town, city to city. Bike touring
>became an affordable way to see the country. All of these factors meant
>people were spending more time on their bikes.  They needed a riding
>position that allowed them to travel these increased distances comfortably.
>Seat angles became slacker and chainstays grew longer because of this. By
>1910 or so, seat angles had more or less settled on the standard that was
>used as the paradigm for the next 120 years.
>
>It’s important to note a few things about this seat tube angle.
>
> For starters, the effective angle between the center of the usable
>portion of the saddle rails and the center of the bottom bracket is not the
>seat tube angle.  Let’s call that angle the effective saddle fore and aft
>position angle, or just saddle angle for short. The saddle angle is slacker
>than the seat tube angle and that’s important.  It’s roughly 1.5
>degrees slacker on most bikes. The human body hasn't changed in all
>these years.. and the sound fit principals that found this happy medium
>have not changed either. The relationship of the hip/knee/pedal happens to
>grow as needed by a taller rider’s femur as the saddle goes up and back on
>this angled axis, the Mezzo Forte Axis.  The Mezzo Forte Axis is the
>moderate, but powerful riding position that has proven itself over the
>course of history.
>
>The fastest riders on the planet, the riders who race the Tour and the
>Giro and the Vuelta ride this saddle angle.  If there was a faster angle to
>ride hard then get up the next day and do it again, they’d use it. Look at
>the pro’s road race bikes.   The steeper the seat angle, the more saddle
>set back there is. This is the reason, very very few pros ride 0mm
>setback posts, and only a tiny handful ride posts with negative
>setback, ie posts that put your saddle clamp in front of the seatpost.
>
>We have high-tech technology to see what the best position is on a
>bike for long distance riding.  Before we had the technology, we had
>stopwatches and race results. I’ve heard arguments that a more forward
>riding position is more powerful for short bursts.  That’s true, but it’s 
> not
>sustainable power.  If it was, road racers would use it all the time.
>The muscles engaged with a more forward position do not have the ability to
>grind in a forward position for hours.  You use big endurance muscles
>when your saddle is further back.  They’re not as punchy, but they’re
>effective for the long haul.  Wanna use 

Re: [RBW] WTB 1 1/8" threadless stem 25.4mm clamp

[Steven Frederick]

Dimension stems come in many lengths, angles and clamp diameters.  Usually
under $30 too.

Steve

On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 11:59 AM Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
thesixtht...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everybody, I'm looking for a 1 1/8" threadless stem w/ 25.4mm clamp,
> preferably some length (90-120mm), and some rise/drop angle. Condition
> isn't terribly important as it's going on a beater Xtracycle conversion
> bike I keep on the street for transporting the kid around.
>
> Would also solicit recommendations for a new budget-option stem. Are the
> $35-40 VO or Soma stems decent? Mostly city commuting, no off roads or
> trails.
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] 650b clearance on Rambouillet?

[Steven Frederick]

This touches on why I've never seriously considered a 650b conversion of my
early, orange Rambly.  It's just such a fine bike with 700c.  I have 650b
bikes too; variety is good.  Steve

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 9:48 PM Arthur Lewy  wrote:

> Greetings Wyatt
>
> I will echo comments above. With DiaCompe 750s I easily fit 584x42s on my
> green Ramb.   The chainstays are the biggest limitation: there was 3 mm
> clearance on each side.  My wheels were true and over 3 years I had no
> problems, although it was a source of worry.
>
> All of this said, I will share my experience with the conversion.  Going
> to 650 B on the Ramb, for me led to a series of compromises, like
> shortening my cranks.  Using long centerpulls was a hassle: they are less
> efficient and due to my own limited skills, they are hard to adjust.   My
> beloved Mark’s rack did not play well with the centerpull cable.   I took
> off the rack but then lost capability to use my Shopsack.
>
> This summer I drove back to Seattle from Brooklyn with my beloved lab
> Princess Buttercup.   We drove through Canada to stop by Lakes Huron and
> Superior.   From the first day she ran in, fetched balls, dove for rocks
> and it seemed she would swim to Wisconsin.   It reminded me of what Mother
> Superior said to fraulein Maria about doing what you were born to do.
>
> A few weeks ago I slapped the 700c wheels back on the Ramb along with the
> Silver brakes, the Mark’s rack, basket, and Shopsack.  In the absence of
> Ruffy Tuffys, I put on Vitoria Corsa Courses.  There’s gobs of tire room
> and the Ramb just sings again in a way it didn’t do with the supposedly
> cushier 650Bs.  It is such a joy.
>
> I am sure that wide tires are great.   At this point I would only do
> them on a bike really designed for them.
>
> Just my 2 cents.  Good luck figuring things out.
>
> Art Lewy
> Seattle
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Re: [RBW] Re: I need to repair or mask scratches in new black paint

[Steven Frederick]

Yah, rubbing compound and a "scratch remover" polish would be a good place
to start.  You can always move up to fine sandpaper if that is insufficient.

Steve

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 4:54 PM George Schick  wrote:

> Laing - instead of the W/D sandpaper how about rubbing or, better yet,
> polishing compound, applied with a rag and some water?  I've rubbed out
> scratches on automobiles with that stuff before and it works just fine.
> You should be able to get it at an auto part store.
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 3:38:15 PM UTC-6, lconley wrote:
>>
>> You could also try an auto or motorcycle detailer or a paint-less dent
>> remover professional if you don't want to do it yourself.
>>
>> You can always start with 3000 or 5000 grit or the highest grit you can
>> find to develop some experience and confidence. The higher the grit number,
>> the less paint it removes.
>>
>> Laing
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 3:56:10 PM UTC-5, Dave Small wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Laing.  Sad to say, it's a 58cm.
>>>
>>> I thought about polishing but didn't want to make it worse (I've learned
>>> the hard way that I have a tendency to do that sometimes) if I had other
>>> options.  I hadn't thought about Youtube, and it's a good idea.  I'll look
>>> there.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa Presale

[Steven Frederick]

Heh, yeah.  I recall on a tour from the Pacific Ocean (Astoria, WA) to the
Mississippi River (south of RedWing, MN) how the humidity level changed
almost overnight.  We went from hung-out wet stuff being dry in 1/2 an
hour  to leaving it overnight and finding it wetter than when we hung it!
Happened right around the time we crossed the Missouri River as I recall.

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 1:57 PM jack loudon  wrote:

> Scott: " my wife and I decided we didn’t need a clothes dryer and ditched
> ours"
>
> Says the man who lives in Tucson :)
>
> Jack in perpetually soggy (so it seems...) Seattle
>
> On Tuesday, January 28, 2020 at 8:01:05 AM UTC-8, Scott Calhoun wrote:
>>
>> After a couple of trips to Spain the last few years, where nobody has a
>> dryer, my wife and I decided we didn’t need a clothes dryer and ditched
>> ours. Really, it’s the right choice for the planet—you can feel very good
>> about your Appaloosa now.  Ha ha
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Re: [RBW] Nitto R-10 rear rack, Lil Joe saddle bag for sale

[Steven Frederick]

Sold!

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 10:30 AM stevef  wrote:

> I've used this combo off and on for years.  I don't need such a big bag
> that often so this set up only comes out when I do a light load/supported
> tour or something, and usually carries a light, bulky load like a rain cape
> and shoe covers "just in case." The bag is in really good shape for its
> age, no holes, the leather trim and straps are in good shape, the buckles
> have a nice patina, and aside from some darkening on the bottom from
> shifting around against the rack, there are no stains.  It smells not
> unpleasantly of old canvas, like a boy scout tent.  I've added a rawhide
> shoelace and barrel adjuster for snugging things up, and a cheap old
> plastic cutting board cut to fit as a bottom/stiffener.  The rack looks
> nearly new, though the aluminum struts have some light scratches from use.
> With a light load, I sometimes haven't even bothered with the struts.  Just
> clamp it on the seat post and go. I think I have a pair of nitto seat
> stay-sized P-clamps too if needed.  Just have to dig them up.
>
> Ideally, I'd like to sell them together, say-$150 shipped?  Or make me an
> offer.
>
> Here's a shot of this setup on my Rambly from a tour a few years ago.
>
> 
>
>
> Thanks, Steve
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Steven Frederick]

Thanks, that sounds plausible.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 4:03 PM, R Shannon  wrote:

> Steve,
>
> Just a guess: Brian Tester former Riv staffer and mechanic.
>
> Best,
> Richard
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [RBW] Re: 52cm, 650b-wheeled Quickbeam for sale.

[Steven Frederick]

Bike is sold.

On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Steven Frederick <stl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks!  Let me know if you pull together the cash to make an offer.  They
> don't pop up often in this size...
>
> Steve
>
> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 11:56 AM, sean <seanobr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Great looking Quickbeam! Wow, very tempting and in my size. I've been
>> looking for a Quickbeam and never thought one would emerge. Just as it is
>> hard to sell small sizes, it's also hard to find them.
>>
>> Now if I could only scrounge up the money...:)
>>
>> Hope you get a sale. That is a beautiful bike!
>>
>> Sean
>> ATX
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Re: [RBW] Re: 52cm, 650b-wheeled Quickbeam for sale.

[Steven Frederick]

Thanks!  Let me know if you pull together the cash to make an offer.  They
don't pop up often in this size...

Steve

On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 11:56 AM, sean  wrote:

> Great looking Quickbeam! Wow, very tempting and in my size. I've been
> looking for a Quickbeam and never thought one would emerge. Just as it is
> hard to sell small sizes, it's also hard to find them.
>
> Now if I could only scrounge up the money...:)
>
> Hope you get a sale. That is a beautiful bike!
>
> Sean
> ATX
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[RBW] 52cm, 650b-wheeled Quickbeam for sale.

[Steven Frederick]

I bought this new from Riv in 2010  It's from the last/final batch of
Quickbeams they did.  It's silver with blue trim, and - unique to that last
batch - is a 52cm frame built around sidepull brakes and 650b wheels.  It
easily fits Hetres with fenders, and is a great riding bike.  But I find
that singlespeed/fixed riding just isn't much fun for me anymore.  I've
only ridden it once or twice a season the last few years, so I'm thinking I
should let it pass to someone who would enjoy it more.  I'd like to limit
potential buyers to those willing and able to meet up within 100 miles or
so of Lansing, Michigan for now-if nothing comes of it, I will consider
shipping at some point.  Or just keep it.  We'll see.

It's not stock-the wheels, brakes, stem and headset are the only original
parts I think.

It has a White Industries Dos Enos 19/17 double freewheel on the rear
wheels flip side and 16t fixed cog on the flop side.  It has a Sugino
110mmBCD double crankset with (as I recall) 40/38-t rings mounted on an, as
I recall, Sugino 103mm spindle bottom bracket.

Tires are 1st gen, 38mm PariMotos with little wear, an indicator of how
little I've ridden it lately.

Silver, Zero set back post and Selle San Marco Regal saddle.

Grey Shimano cable housing and metallic blue Fizik Microtex tape (over
Fizik gel padding) are nice matches for the silver and blue frame.  Bars
are silver 44cm wide Soma HWY1, which feature a short reach and shallow
drop. Brake levers are small-hands-specific Tektro Ergos.

SKS 50mm wide fenders with quick release sockets front and rear.  (having
the QR in back makes it much easier to remove the rear wheel.)

Also included, Crane bell, Zefal frame pump and an older but good condition
black Acorn saddle bag.  Pedals of various sorts are also available, if
wanted.

I'd like $1,100 but will consider offers.  No trades desired.

I think that's about it-it's very clean, never been crashed or dropped.
Well, it's a little dusty, actually-when I do ride it, it is usually on
mixed dirt/paved road rides.  But there's scarcely a mark on it.  It's also
quite a rare bird-there aren't many out there.

A few recent pics at the top of my Flick'r feed:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/with/35483685203/

Steve, East Lansing, MI

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Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

[Steven Frederick]

Are those standard Sugino rings, and they work fine with a 10 speed chain?
One of the chief issues I'm running into is finding 10-speed specific rings
in my preferred tooth count/BCD...

Thanks, Steve

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Nick Payne  wrote:

> Here's the crankset on my Bleriot. Sugino XD cranks, 36/24 chainrings. I
> made the chainguard from an old TA 41t chainring by hacksawed the teeth off
> and smoothing down with file and sandpaper. Deore XT 2x10 front derailleur.
> Rear gearing is an 11-36 10-speed cassette with 9-speed XT rear mech and
> Shimano 10-speed barcons. A 107mm BB gives the correct chainline.
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> On Friday, 10 March 2017 05:58:28 UTC+11, stevef wrote:
>>
>> Which cranks and rings were those, Bill--I'd like to set up my all road
>> bike with a 44t big/28-32t small crankset and 10 speed shimano road mechs,
>> but I'm having trouble finding a crank that'll work.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

[Steven Frederick]

Thanks, Bill-I prefer a wider Q as well.  I should look  for those rings to
fit cranks I already have, see if I can put something together.

Steve

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Bill M.  wrote:

> I have two Campy Record Triple cranks that I run without outer rings to
> create ultra-compact doubles.  135 mm TA and Stronglight chainrings are
> available from XX Cycle in France.  Bottom brackets are pretty scarce,
> though.  The inner is a standard 74 mm ring.
>
> Many iBOB's will shudder at the thought of a slightly wider q factor than
> they would like.  In my case, my toes point out quite a bit, and the Campy
> arms offer good ankle bone clearance so they fit me well.
>
> Bill
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 10:58:28 AM UTC-8, stevef wrote:
>>
>> Which cranks and rings were those, Bill--I'd like to set up my all road
>> bike with a 44t big/28-32t small crankset and 10 speed shimano road mechs,
>> but I'm having trouble finding a crank that'll work.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 12:29:31 AM UTC-5, Bill M. wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 2:14:48 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>>
>>> On 03/08/2017 04:21 PM, Brewster Fong wrote:

 For my next bike, I'm planning on going etap "wireless" with mid-cage
 RD. I want to run 11-32 in the rear with a sub-compact double like a 46x30
 or 46x28.  Since I don't "tour" or carry a load, a 30x32 or 28x32 should be
 more than enough to get me up the hills around here! Of course, YMMV!  Good
 Luck!

 You can help that luck by making sure your frame has a round seat tube
 and uses a clamp on front derailleur.  Which pretty much means a titanium
 frame.

>>>
>>> Or a Calfee.  Which, come to think of it, Brewster already owns.
>>>
>>> I have had no problems mixing SRAM road and mountain 10 speed
>>> derailleurs and shifters with 44/28 and 42/26 cranks and 11/32 or 12/28
>>> cassettes.  Even on my Calfee, now sadly sold.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>> Stockton, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riding in Greater Muskegon-Newaygo-Grant Michigan Area

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Whoops, not good for me timing-wise.  I'm out.  Thanks for the
consideration though!  Steve

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 Looking like Sunday the 12th at earliest and into the next week. Sunday may 
 be best for most, but I can schedule almost anytime later in week.
 How does Sunday afternoon work for all interested, say 3 pm? I am busy until 
 2 unfortunately. We can decide a route when a group is formed.
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Re: [RBW] Alternatives to MUSA pants and knickers?

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I just bought a pair of those a month or so ago--they're not bad.  Fit
pretty true to size, pretty well made.  The elastic drawstring in the cuffs
is a little wonky but I haven't played with it much...

Steve

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 Thanks for all the suggestions so far everyone.  In the meantime I
 remembered about Zoic.  I have a pair of their shorts and really like
 them.  They make knickers too: http://www.zoic.com/reign-knicker.  AND:
 coincidentally they’re having a 50% off sale!


 On Nov 7, 2014, at 6:01 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.prana.com/nemesis-knicker.html?color=darkkhakihristian,

 My knock on the new (don't have experience with the old style) is though
 baggy the waist was super tight with all the elastic, in my case size
 large. So I went with Prana' Nemesis Knickers. They're actually climbing
 knickers but have very little elastic other than the built in stretch of
 the fabric. The opening of the leg area flares some as opposed to cycling
 specific ones but doesn't bother me.

 I also wear their shorts made of the same fabric.

 My knock on other manufacturers of cycling knickers is how tight they are
 seeming in my use to be restricted in all the wrong places when in motion.

 YMMV.

 -Hugh
 los Angeles, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

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He devolving is more like it.  Surly's are competent bikes, with great
marketing.  Rivs' are great bikes with inspired marketing.

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 It looks like it's gradually evolving into a Surly.

 ( Surlies are really good bikes. )

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Re: [RBW] Re: SONdelux or Shutter Precision SV-8 Dynamo Hub?

[Steven Frederick]

I sure did! (get a wheel shadow)  Didn't like it at all.  I now have it
mounted in the front of my front basket on a Paul's stem cap mount-works
pretty well.

Steve

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 Do you all get wheel shadow from mounting to the side of racks? Is it
 annoying? I once mounted a battery light to fork and it was annoying. Maybe
 up higher by the rack isn;t as bad.

 Thanks for all this great info, you all. And I consider it Riv content
 because I wanted to hear from Riv riders on this since we have multiple
 mounting points on our bikes and because I think riv-riders are more likely
 than a mainstream USA biker to use dyno hubs.

 I am learning a lot here, so thanks again.
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Re: [RBW] Ral color match for orange Quickbeam?

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Sorry to hear it.  I believe the orange Rambly's wore a multi-coat paint
job that would be tough to match with a single color re-paint.  I seem to
recall it was called florida tangerine pearl.

Good luck, Steve

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 So I bought that orange Quickbeam that popped here last week and it was
 damaged in shipping.  This was not due to any fault of the original owner
 or mishandling by FedEx but due to poor packing which was done by a shop.
 In any case the fork us damaged and so is the lug on the seat tube.  I will
 most likely have the frame media blasted then powder coated.  I would like
 to be as close to the original color as possible but I'm sure looking at
 http://www.ralcolor.com is the best way to match it.  Any input would be
 appreciated.


 FW,

 CBB

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Re: [RBW] Re: suggestions for a bike computer?

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I'm starting to think a Garmin might be a valid choice for me and my
multiple bikes/different wheelsizes too.  Is the 200 a reasonable choice?
I'm not interested in the calories burned or heart rate, fitness or cadence
features of the higher end ones, but I do think some of the map/routing
features on the touring models might be kinda fun.  What's the best
model/level for a technically challenged Garmin newb to buy?

Steve

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 +1 for Garmin 200. It's amazing how well it works in all conditions. I
 used it all last year including fat bike riding in temps ranging between
 zero and 20 degrees. No problems.

 I primarily bought it to eliminate having to recalibrate computer every
 time I switched tires. Plus, I ride 6 bikes when including our tandem and
 use only one Garmin. Used to use 2 Sigma computers, which I think are the
 best, when I only had 4 bikes. Problem was, I often brought the wrong
 computer when driving to my location, d-oh! Also, between the 2 computers I
 could never remember when I last changed batteries so at least once a year
 the computer would die on a ride.

 The Garmin has built-in, USB or AC plug rechargeable battery and the
 coolest computer map recall feature that I could ever want. I love looking
 at new routes that I've ridden using Garmin Connect. It's a data lover's
 dream but that's not a plus for me. Just the reliability.



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 Despite historical resistance to the idea, I am contemplating a bike
 computer for my Sam, the better with which to follow cue sheets and the
 like. Any suggestions from the Bunch? I suppose I would prefer wireless,
 and a small, modest screen.

 Cheers,

 Neil

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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam 52cm?

[Steven Frederick]

Yeah, only that last run of silver 'Beams included 50 and 52cm frames.
They were sidepull braked and 650b wheeled.  I have a 52cm but I wouldn't
sell it.  The 54cm should be manageable for you with your PBH-mine is
similar and all my other Rivs have been 54's.  You'd probably appreciate
the canti-brakes anyway, if you want to ride it off road.  Mine is pretty
much strictly paved/dirt road specific; I have a singlespeed mountain bike
for trail duty.

Steve

Pics of my QB:

https://www.flickr.com/search/?w=40738390@N08q=quickbeam


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 I have an 80cm PBH and ride a 54cm Quickbeam. To my measurements a 52
 would be too small and cramped for drops and certainly so for upright bars.
 I think all the runs of the Quickbeam included a 54cm size. If you decide
 to change your sizing up you will have access to the orange models and 700c
 wheels.

 Jason
 SF, CA

 On Sep 1, 2014, at 4:02 PM, DS davecst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Leaning heavily towards a Quickbeam for my next bike. Pending finding one
 in my size that someone wants to sell of course. Trying to figure out:

 1. sizing  - What size quickbeam for an 80 PBH? I see a few links around
 that have PBH and frame sizes but they tend to be bigger frame sizes and
 pbh. After some searching I seem to remember seeing someone with a 52cm
 frame and an 80 PBH.
 2. availability - were the 50 and 52 frame sizes only available in
 Silver/650b? Did any of the other production runs include those sizes? I'm
 drawn to the Orange color, but don't want to get my hopes up if it was
 never made in my size.
 3. Sam Hillborne - would this be a good alternative to be built up as a
 similar 2 speed single / fixie like a quickbeam? I guess this question is
 very subjective and no reason I couldn't, but would it need a tensioner?
 What are the disadvantages other than having to use spacers and possibly a
 tensioner?

 On a side note, if anyone has a 52cm Quickbeam they're thinking of parting
 with let me know. I can buy now, but early next year would be better.

 On a total side note, best overheard line this weekend while out riding:
 So you're telling me I also need a *single speed* cross bike too? #$@!:

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

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Yep.  Certainly at least any that wasn't hand made with equal care!

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Re: [RBW] Compass 650b 38 vs. 650b 42 mm tires question.

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I put a set of those on the Stag and they're pretty great.


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Re: [RBW] WTB: 54 Heron Road Bike

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I had a 54cm Heron road-sold it a while ago, sorry.  But I ran Rolly Poly's
on it exclusively (measure 27mm or a hair more) and there was definitely a
bit of room around them.  I never tried 32's on but I tried 34's and they
didn't fit.  I think a 30-32 would be doable but I can't confirm it
personally.


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 I just looked it up in Rivendell Reader #11 which introduced the Heron
 line.  It says in there that the Heron Road was designed to accommodate up
 to 35's.  Of course most people have said that current tires are more
 accurate and that it won't likely fit more than a 32.  Does yours really
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Re: [RBW] Re: My RBW Sam stock build FSA headset should last how long?

[Steven Frederick]

That was my first thought.  Try holding the housing where it enters the
stops with one hand while turning the bars with the other and see if the
noise goes away.


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 FWIW it is also quite common to get a creaking sound from your shift cable
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Re: [RBW] best fenders for Rambouillet? WTB question

[Steven Frederick]

Aw shucks, I just threw them on...B-)


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nice fender line!


 On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I'm running that combo on my Rambly-32mm Soma Pasela clones (size actual
 and labled)


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/14486815897/in/photostream/lightbox/

 Does anyone else find sharing pics from the new, improve Flikk'r
 frustrating?

 Steve



 On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:41 PM, bingomck bingo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow, glad you are Ok!

 Question for group related to yours, will SKS Longboard P45 fenders fit
 in a Ram with Tektro 559 side pulls? If so, what would be max. tire size,
 32-35ish?

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Re: [RBW] Longboard Sizing

[Steven Frederick]

I'd try the 45's if I were you--they give good but not excessive coverage
over 32mm tires on my Rambouilet and they're very flexible--almost
alarmingly so until you get the stays attached and adjusted.  Shouldn't be
much trouble to squeeze them in there...

Pic of said fenders on said Rambly:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/14673266195/lightbox/

Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI


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wrote:

 I've heard conflicting input about what size tires the various longboards
 will cover.
 I'd like to fender my Protovelo which has J.B. 33.3's (green) and very
 little room to spare at the fork crown.
 I know P45's would cover those wheels but I don't think I can squeeze them
 in the frame (the fork anyway)
 Anyone have experience fendering JB's with the P35 Longboards?
 According to the Peter White site, the P35's are for up to 32mm

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/74956339@N06/8862132239/in/photostream/

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Re: [RBW] best fenders for Rambouillet? WTB question

[Steven Frederick]

I'm running that combo on my Rambly-32mm Soma Pasela clones (size actual
and labled)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/14486815897/in/photostream/lightbox/

Does anyone else find sharing pics from the new, improve Flikk'r
frustrating?

Steve


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:41 PM, bingomck bingo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow, glad you are Ok!

 Question for group related to yours, will SKS Longboard P45 fenders fit in
 a Ram with Tektro 559 side pulls? If so, what would be max. tire size,
 32-35ish?

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Re: [RBW] Advice: crank arms less than 165mm

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Maybe just raise the seat and see if that helps rather than moving it back
as well.  It will move back a little by moving up anyway, and I've learned
the hard way to change just one thing at a time when trying to address this
sort of trouble.  I think that crankarm length should be okay--try it with
the higher seat before replacing...

My $.02, Steve


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 My wife who is 5'3 with a PBH of 74 develops knee pain during rides
 longer than 10 miles.  As she has been easing into cycling over the last
 year, she rides exclusively in her small chainring (24) on her Sugino XD2
 triple 46-36-24 with 165mm crankarms.  The pain is in front in her
 kneecaps.  I am going to be raising her seat slightly and pushing her
 saddle slightly back to see if that helps.  I am also considering shorter
 crank arms given her relatively short legs compared to torso.
 Does anyone have experiences with shorter crank arms, especially folks in
 my wife's height range?  Also thoughts on good crank sets with shorter
 crank arms? I was thinking of trying 155mm crank arms if adjusting seat
 height didn't alleviate the issue.  Can I put non-Sugino crank arms on a
 Xd2?
 Thanks for any insights,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone missing an Atlantis?

[Steven Frederick]

That criticism might have more meaning if it weren't anonymous...

The power wash thing--I'm guessing bikes were dusty from being stored for a
long time?  Just speculation on my part.

Steve


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:25 PM, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm kind of surprised (and disappointing) by the immediate this person is
 not a Rivendell (or bicycle) expert, the bikes must be stolen tone of the
 last 18 posts...

 No relation, but maybe the seller it not 'cyclist' or 'enthusiast' that
 would frequent (or even seek) a forum like this.  Maybe an (affluent)
 person who bought some nice bikes long ago and Googled Rivendell to see
 current prices are and went from there?



 On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 1:06:22 AM UTC-4, Peter M wrote:

 Its just such an odd listing, no details. Bike either power washed or
 left out in the rain with the brooks on to take the pics. Strange setup on
 the shifters. Maybe being homebound has just made me paranoid.

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atlantis-Rivendell-Bicycle-/321449742066?pt=LH_
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Re: [RBW] If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?

[Steven Frederick]

I'm pretty satisfied with my modernish steel road bikes--I might be tempted
by a disc-brake equipped version (say a 650b version of the Gunnar
Fastlane) but what I have works fine.  I get my modern bike kicks off
road, with suspension-equipped trail bikes.  And a fat bike.  Gots to have
a fat bike...

Steve


On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Most (all?) of us have a strong affinity for steel bikes.  Many of us like
 various classic or retro properties:  lugs, friction dt shifters, fewer
 than 11 cogs, etc.  Several of us really enjoy doing builds on classic
 bikes from the 70s/80s/90s etc.  Many of us lament that nothing new or
 contemporary speaks to us at all.  But many others of us do have openings
 in the stable for things that are decidedly new.  Some of us run fatbikes.
  A few of us maybe has a Gates beltbike, or a newfangled folder, or a
 dual-suspension 29er.  Some of us even have a carbon bike.

 My stable is now at 9 bikes all steel, but I'll admit that I'm pretty
 darned infatuated with this bike:


 https://s3.amazonaws.com/NinerCompleteBuilds/Complete_bike_images/RLT+9/RLT9_Force_4star.jpg

 A sloping TT road bike, with more BB drop than a cyclocross bike.  135mm
 rear end, disc brakes.  Very smart front facing fork tips and normal wheel
 axles.  Takes 29x1.75 tires without fenders, and would easily run 700x38
 tires (tubeless) with fenders.  Has all the integrated fender mount points.
  Has a PF30 BB that makes it easy to set it up as a singlespeed.

 Add to that I can get the frame/fork/headset from Jenson for $1050 and get
 a free $250 gift card for my next purchase(s).  So it's an $800 frameset.
 I'm having a hard time thinking of anything not to like.  Five years ago,
 when we whined that modern bikes were designed too much for pure road
 racers, this is the kind of thoroughly modern real-world bike I thought was
 missing.  I have bikes that are setup to carry loads well.  For mixed
 terrain stuff that I'd do unloaded, this bike would definitely get ridden.
  I imagine it would be incredibly fun

 Are there any thoroughly modern bikes that tempt you?

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Re: [RBW] haven't been riding my Roadeo lately

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Those Soma bars are great--I've switched to them from Noodles on all my
drop-bar bikes.  Have you a zero-setback post?  That might be sufficient to
make your Romin saddle work...

Steve


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 I was having problems with the nether regions and had to finally give up
 on Brooks B17's. On the way, I discovered the Specialized Romin saddle and
 Assos shorts.
 My discomfort was so bad that I went to Kaiser and had all the tests.
 Health wise, everything is ok.
 Well, the Romin saddle and Assos shorts are my go to.
 Now, my Roadeo's seat tube angle is too shallow for my Romin saddle. I'm
 going to try one of my Rivet saddles with my new Soma Highway bars. I think
 this is going to be a winner.

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Re: [RBW] Re: RIV The Oregon Outback

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The Geax Saguaro and WTB Wolverine are both pretty fast dirt-oriented tires
that aren't bad on pavement--both wear well too...

Steve


On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:34 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I must respectfully disagree re. the Speedster. Real nice on dirt, but on
 road was like pedaling through peanut butter.

 Cheers,
 David

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 wrote:

 the Vee Rubber Speedster is very nice on gravel  and fairly supple if you
 keep the pressure down.  Not so fast on pavement but either is a Big Apple.
   I'd use it over the Big Apple  any day of the week.. They make it in a 29
 x 2.3 which would be great for your Krampus
  
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vee-Rubber-29-x-2-30-SPEEDSTER-Mountain-Bike-Bicycle-Tire/251481629913?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D22849%26meid%3D7416282425240623638%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D9835%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D26136717
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vee-Rubber-29-x-2-30-SPEEDSTER-Mountain-Bike-Bicycle-Tire/251481629913?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D22849%26meid%3D7416282425240623638%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D9835%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D26136717


 ~mike


 On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 8:20:04 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 So then a better choice would be a wider smooth tire? Like, for example,
 the Schwalbe Super-Motos?


 On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Jan Heine hei...@earthlink.net wrote:

 My 42 mm Compass Babyshoe Pass Extralight tires were great on 85% of
 the gravel sections. There were a number of places where the gravel was
 very sandy and soft, where everybody seemed to have trouble. Wider tires
 would have been useful there.

 On the other hand, 30% of the ride was on paved roads, where any
 knobbies would slow you down considerably. It's no coincidence that the two
 fastest finishers were on road tires (38 and 42 mm wide). My current
 hypothesis is that wider high-performance road tires (if they were in fact
 available) would be ideal for this event, but considering the currently
 available options, I'd choose the same tires again if I was going for a
 fast time.

 Jan Heine
 Compass Bicycles Ltd.
 www.compasscycle.com

 Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/


 On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 8:46:17 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 Jan said after the ride that he would have preferred something fatter
 than 42 mm for the dirt sections. I think a low profile knobby in like
 52-56 mm wide would be ideal. Schwalbe makes some super plush XC racing
 tires like the Thunder Burt that would be great  for this ride. I know of 
 a
 few people who used these and were very pleased with the performance on
 this ride.

 ~mike
 Carlsbad Ca.

 On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 8:58:52 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 Here are pictures of some of the bikes that did the organized Oregon
 Outback.
 https://www.facebook.com/jamesnathanjones/media_set?set=a.
 10203614505580588.1073741833.1154446016type=1

 What tires were you thinking of using for the route? The 1.9 smooth
 Schwalbes I have on my Atlantis seem like a tiny bit of underbiking, and
 the 3 tires on my Krampus seem like overbiking.

 Jan Heine did the route, very fast, on smooth 42mm Compass Babyshoe
 Pass tires on his randonneur bike. I'd be happier with more rubber and 
 disc
 brakes than on a randonneur bike, I'm pretty sure.


 On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 8:44 AM, velomann velo...@gmail.com wrote:

 When are you going? I'm considering for later June myself but don't
 want to go it alone.

 Mike


 On Monday, June 2, 2014 9:09:55 PM UTC-7, Antonioni Vicente wrote:

 Any Rivsters out there ever ridden this route?

 Tons of stuff on Velodirt.com but as usual- seeking the Riv
 School's input.

 An Atlantis and a '93 XO-3 soon to tackle it...

 Thanks y'all.

 -ant

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Re: [RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer

[Steven Frederick]

Heh, you should put tread in quotation marks, 'cause the PariMoto don't
have any.  Or much anyway...

Steve


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 By the way, I've been asking them to make the Pari Moto tread in a larger
 size, so if that's something you want email them and let them know that I'm
 not just a crazy person. You can also tweet at Jeff @panaracerjeff

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Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?

[Steven Frederick]

I used to carry a CrankBros multi-with chain tool but the chaintool bit
broke on the trail when I was trying to fix a guys chain.  I carry a
separate Park mini chain tool now.  Not as convenient but hopefully more
reliable.

Steve


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   Joan, I've become a fan of the Crank Bros. Multi-tool with flask:

 http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=14674category=214

  Particularly nice not to have to carry a separate chain breaker.

  Paul Germain
 Midlothian, Va.


Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net Apr 28 08:28PM -0500

I'm in the market for a new multi-tool for on-bike repairs and
adjustments. I don't think I need all of the 26 or 27 items I currently
carry. The ones I've used most have been the allen wrenches in various
sizes up to 8, the chain tool, the 10mm box wrench (I think 10, it's
whatever size adjusts the nuts on fenders), and very occasionally the flat
screwdriver. The chain tool is a definite keeper, I've used it a number of
times to help friends (and once for myself).

I thought there was a discussion a few months ago about on-bike tools,
but a search of the archives didn't turn up anything.

Thanks!

Joan

PS -I also carry a couple of zip ties, duct tape wrapped around a
piece of cardboard (has seen various uses including to keep bandages on),
couple of cut-up segments of old tires and plastic tire levers/patch
kit/tube. On a tour, a few other bits and pieces in case of missing bolts,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Geometry, climbing, what's going on?

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Couple of suggestions from a mountain biker's perspective.  Try a higher
gear--click up just one.  It sounds counter-intuitive, but the momentum of
the big, heavy wheels and tires will actually roll you along better.  Also,
try moving your hands inward on the bars for stability.  (assuming you have
wide flat mtb-ish bars on there...)


On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote:

 Just to clarify: this new bike is a ton of fun, and I'm liking it. I love
 the Rohloff hub, I love the way the 3 tires stick to everything and roll
 over anything, I love the way I can go downhill with confidence on trails I
 wouldn't dream of descending on my Atlantis. It's just that I need to work
 on the climbing.


 On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote:


 I'm a big fan of low, low gears. I have them on both my Atlantises; my
 Roadeo has pretty low gears too considering I never carry much on it.
 People always say to me, I don't want lower gears because then I couldn't
 balance. I never understood that. I don't have a bit of problem riding at
 2.5 mph for long periods of time when I'm climbing something ridiculously
 steep on one of my Rivendell bikes.

 But now I understand. I thought when I bought my new Surly Krampus
 mountain bike I'd be able to climb even steeper dirt roads than I now can
 climb on my Atlanti. I thought, I have an absurdly low gear on the Krampus
 (15.6 inches, something like that), I have all the traction in the world, I
 can climb anything.

 But no. I'm finding that I climb *worse* on the Krampus. It's
 frustrating. There are dirt sections that I have no trouble on with the
 Atlantis, with smooth tires, that I can't climb on the Krampus with the
 knobbies.

 What's going on here? Front-end geometry? Wheel weight? Bottom bracket
 height? I'm beginning to think I should have bought the Surly ECR (like
 several people recommended) instead of the Krampus. Or maybe I just need to
 learn how to climb on this new bike.

 On the other hand, when I bought the bike I also thought I'd be able to
 go down steep trails that I'm afraid to descend on the Atlantis, and that
 has proved to be true. My husband took one look at my new bike and said,
 Wow, you have better traction on that than you have on foot. When I apply
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Re: [RBW] Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

[Steven Frederick]

They weren't when the Heron Road was introduced, though.  Rather than adapt
the Heron to take advantage of the increase in clearance, Grant introduced
the Rambouillet...


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marchantshap...@gmail.com wrote:

 Disagree.  RX100 long reach DPs were around then, and those are still some
 of my favorite brakes.  If you wanted longer, you dropped to BMX quality,
 but Tektro's superlongs were available by 2003.

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Re: [RBW] Stan's report: Longevity

[Steven Frederick]

I'm using Stan's both in a tubeless MTB set up and in tubes on my
Quickbeam, among other road bikes, and it seems to work about the same way
in both.  Hear a hiss from a puncture, cuss, stop and look for it--see a
little fountain of Stan's shooting out of the tire, spin tire, the hiss and
fountain diminish and stop, in 3-4 revolutions, squeeze tire to make sure
it's not lost too much air, grin, get on and keep riding...

Steve


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 For me -- statistical sample of 1:

 30 mm Parigi Roubaix, 60-65 psi, tubes. I did not try these tubeless.

 Before: a goathead flat every 2 to 5 miles; used, literally, 20 patches in
 one week.

 After: no flat in 700 miles; Stan's still entirely liquid after 12 mos.


 55 mm (as measured, 50 mm labeled) Furious Freds (700C), 25-30 psi. These
 tires weigh about 30 grams more each than the Parigi Roubaix, so they are
 extremely light.

 I never rode these without Stan's. Here is my experience with them with
 Stan's.

 Tubed: once the goatheads matured in late fall and early winter, 1 flat
 every 2 miles. Many of these would seal, reluctantly, if you stopped and
 spun the wheel for 3 minutes, but many would not.

 Tubeless: no flats. When I pry thorns from the casing the air will escape,
 but a few revolutions of the wheel seals the holes. One experienced in
 goatheads told me simply to leave the thorns in the casing and let the
 heads break off, leaving the points to plug the holes.


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 Does Stans really work well inside tubes? Seems to me, to be effective,
 sealant needs air to harden and seal. I know Stans works well in tubeless
 tires and rims, I've tried it, but inside tubes I'm not so sure.

 Richard

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Re: [RBW] Not diggin' 650b ~ Why do I prefer my 26 Atlantis?

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How do the wheels and tires compare to what's on the Atlantis?  Did you get
the contact positions set up the same?  (saddle height, set back, bar
reach, etc.)  Could be the geometry of one just works for you better than
the other...


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 Finally got the Saluki built up, I believe it'll be my 5th Rivendell. And
 I've taken it on several trips, a 30 mile ride around Detroit, commuted a
 bunch, ect but for some reason I'm not digging the 650b platform. I keep
 giving it just one more chance to prove it has the moxy to remain in the
 stable but it's getting difficult because the bike rack is getting crowded!

 I've tried several tires from Fatty Rumpkins, to Contis, to Marathons but
 I really prefer my 26 Atlantis. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice ride but I
 find it a little sluggish at times and doesn't compare to the smooth
 Atlantis ride.

 Anyone with a similar experience with 650b not being the bees knees as
 touted? What am I missing?


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 50 cm Silver Quickbeam -$1500

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It's hard to let any of them go but it makes sense (to me, no great
indicator) to sell the one that's easiest to replace...

Good luck!


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 And you're right - I hadn't thought of selling the Homer instead.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 50 cm Silver Quickbeam -$1500

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Well, hopefully you won't have to sell anything, but may I recommend that
you sell maybe the Homer over the QB?  The 'Beamer is a rare bird in that
size...

Best,

Steve (52cm QuickBeam.)


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 Hi Folks,

 Thanks for the kind words for my pooch. As mentioned before, I'm torn
 about selling the QB cuz I really like it a lot. But to be fair, I have
 been riding my Homer and Betty more.  I am 5'3 and wear a 30 inseam in
 men's pants (I'm a woman but like wearing men's pants so I don't have to
 hem them)... And my pbh is 77.  At this time, I prefer a local sale over
 shipping. There's no rush on the sale yet, but I could change my mind if I
 get no local buyers. In this area, I'm hoping there is at least one woman
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Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38

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Yep, the new Synergies seem fine, BSD wise...


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tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.comwrote:

 FYI, I just built up a set of wheels with new Synergy rims, and had no
 problems seating the bead of my Grand Bois Lierre tires.  I put a little
 soap on the beads to help, of course.  The Lierre tires seated up way more
 easily than they ever did on the ZAC19 rims.

 Velocity claims to have fixed the bead distance on new production of the
 Synergy, and I believe them.


 On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On 03/25/2014 02:02 AM, Michael wrote:

 Let us know how easily they mount on Synergies, too, please.
 Particularly the bead seating. Thanks.


 Bead seating issues on Synergy rims are due to the rim, not the tire.


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Re: [RBW] Does anyone have the 1985 Bicycling Magazine Buyer's Guide?

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If you have a library near you, you might be able to get them via
Interlibrary Loan.  (Assuming some hoarding lister hasn't already sent you
what you need)

Steve


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 Anyone have this issue and would you be willing to scan a few pages and
 e-mailing them to me? A few months ago I picked up an 80's Takara
 Highlander on Craiglist but I have been completely unsuccessful in finding
 any information on the bike. I just bought the 1985 Bicycling Magazine All
 Terrain Bikes issue thinking it was the buyer's guide but it's actually a
 history of mountain biking and a how-to guide. But, in this book they did
 mention that the 1985 Buyer's Guide has a review of the Takara Highlander!
 The brief description supports my suspicions that the bike has cro-mo main
 tubes but I would be very interested in reading the entire review (which
 also included three other MTB's).

 Reading Grant's ideas on bicycles is what has led me to be curious about
 these early, slack-angled MTB's and I know that a lot of folks here have
 been into bikes for a long time so maybe I'll get lucky.

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Re: [RBW] Does anyone have the 1985 Bicycling Magazine Buyer's Guide?

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I work at a library myself, actually...30 years and counting!  B-)


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.comwrote:

 Steve, your reply made this librarian's face glow with pride. :)

 On Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:47:04 AM UTC-7, stevef wrote:

 If you have a library near you, you might be able to get them via
 Interlibrary Loan.  (Assuming some hoarding lister hasn't already sent you
 what you need)

 Steve


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 Anyone have this issue and would you be willing to scan a few pages and
 e-mailing them to me? A few months ago I picked up an 80's Takara
 Highlander on Craiglist but I have been completely unsuccessful in finding
 any information on the bike. I just bought the 1985 Bicycling Magazine All
 Terrain Bikes issue thinking it was the buyer's guide but it's actually a
 history of mountain biking and a how-to guide. But, in this book they did
 mention that the 1985 Buyer's Guide has a review of the Takara Highlander!
 The brief description supports my suspicions that the bike has cro-mo
 main tubes but I would be very interested in reading the entire review
 (which also included three other MTB's).

 Reading Grant's ideas on bicycles is what has led me to be curious about
 these early, slack-angled MTB's and I know that a lot of folks here have
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Re: [RBW] Riv on tires. LOL!

[Steven Frederick]

Heh, that's classic.  But wait--this here performance tire has tons of grey
area!

[image: http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mWqNCGVoU3qtIFigjycH6hQ.jpg]


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 From todays email newsletter thing.  The Roll-y Poll-y is on sale:

 Our unbiased, peer reviewed testing proved this [the Roll-y Poll-y] to be
 the fastest most comfortable 28mm tire available on the internet. You want
 the best and there's simply no grey area when it comes to tire performance!

 That gave me a good laugh.  I hope it doesn't annoy the people who won't
 get the joke.

 The coupon code is 'checker'

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on tires

[Steven Frederick]

I don't think it does but folding tires generally have higher end
compounds, sidewalls, etc, so they roll faster for that reason not the
folding bead...


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I still don't get how the bead affects the ride quality, whether for
 comfort or speed. Can anyone explain? From Jan's testing it would seem that
 the principal variable by an order of magnitude is casing construction.

 But I'd like to know if it does, 'cuz if it does, I need to swap out the
 wire bead Kojaks on the '03 for folding ones.


 On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:52 PM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote:

  I can't stand wire beads...much prefer a folding bead.




 Just installed the Stampede Pass onto my Roadeo, first ride on Sunday.
 The look much better than the 25mm Continental tires I had on it.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Best Nitto handlebars for Shimano 105 shifters?

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I needed to shorten my reach to the bars due to a neck injury and the HWY 1
works great for me.  It shortens (with the same stem) my reach 3-4cm,
compared to Noodles.  (I used to love the noodles for their roominess but
in the last few years it became more of a bother than an advantage)

Steve.


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 I've never ridden one.  I know several people who are happy with them.
  None of them thought the stiffness was any less than Nitto bars. The
 design is more in the modern trend for short ramps.

 ~mike

 On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 9:02:41 PM UTC-7, Bruce Smitham wrote:

 Mike, how is the quality of the Soma Hwy One compared to Nitto?

 Thanks, Bruce

 On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 7:58:26 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 Bruce, the Hwy one bar from Soma Fab has 2 cm less reach than a Noodle
 and comes in silver and 26.0 clamp.

 ~mike
 Carlsbad Ca.

 On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 6:22:11 PM UTC-7, Bruce Smitham wrote:

 Hi group,

 I currently have 46cm Nitto noodle 177 bars with Shimano 105 shifters
 on my Sam Hillborne. I like everything except the ramp and hood reach is a
 little far away to comfortably brake. I'm looking for a different Nitto
 handlebar and it's a little confusing. I want a shorter ramp so when I move
 from the flats it moves quickly to the hoods. Does anyone have any
 knowledge of the dirt drop or rando bars? It would help if you know the
 model number. Looking for 26.0 X 44cm

 I appreciate any feedback,

 Bruce, San Diego

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nanoreview, Barlow Pass 700x38C on Dyad

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I had 34mm Michelin Dynamics that measured closer to 35's on my Rambly for
a while--they were great but there wasn't much room for more rubber.  These
38c 's would be mighty tight...hopefully someone will take a chance and try
it and report back!


On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would also like to know about this. :-)

 On Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:28:46 PM UTC-4, allenmichael wrote:

 So they might fit on a Rambouillet without fenders? Still not anyone who
 has tried it?

 Michael Allen


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Re: [RBW] Leaping onto an Atlantis

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I can't add much to this, but I will say that I believe that if the
Atlantis is the sort of bike you want, then you can't get a much better one
of that sort...

Steve


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:50 AM, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote:

 A tip of my virtual hat to this. Well said!
 -JimD
 On Mar 20, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Eunice Chang sleepyn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Emily,

 I'm going to quote someone who was wiser than me. If it makes you happy
 and enjoy the rides more, the cost is trivial. If it makes you ride more,
 that's a bonus. It's more of a quality thing. And if you can afford it, go
 for it. If you can't, you might want to look for an used Atlantis or a
 cheaper frame (Surly LHT comes to mind).

 The first time I rode an Atlantis, I wanted to ride it forever.
 Unfortunately it was on temporary loan, and I regret not buying it from the
 owner when I had the chance.

 Due to personal circumstances, I ended up with a custom mixte that cost
 about as much as a fully equipped Atlantis, and it was set up in Riv style,
 and it's been worth every penny. Never mind that I ride a mere two miles to
 the coffee shop, and not even everyday; every time I ride it I always want
 to ride more and look for new routes.

 Good luck with your decision.

 Eunice




 On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 If your used to Carbon then yeah Steel can feel like an anchor...after
 riding on steel a while it's just a mind set and that anchor still seems to
 get from point A to point B with some rose smelling along the way :-)

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

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 On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:12 PM, tdusky tdu...@comcast.net wrote:

  If the the large Atlantis is a boat anchor I would bet the small is as
 well.
 This is just my opinion. As is everyone else making comments here.
 Tires will also make a huge difference on the feel of the bike.
 :)
 Tom


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 Hello,
 I am trying to talk myself into or out of a really pretty new Atlantis
 with all it's parts. It would be the smaller frame because I'm short and
 average weight 130. The price tag is somewhere around 4000 all said and
 done and I feel stuck. My gut is pushing me in both directions because I've
 never ridden an Atlantis. I'm also out of country and can't just go find
 one to try. I love touring and I'd love to do some long international and
 national tours and live in Colorado with hills. Okay thanks.Someone help
 tip me! Is it irresponsible to spend this much money?


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[RBW] Grant on tires

[Steven Frederick]

Interesting encapsulation of Grant's preference for beefier tires.  (vs the
supple casing, light racy tires Jan espouses)  From the RBW website
description of a Conti tire:

...It has a good, stiff sidewall for reduced flex and fatigue, and for
more support should you ever have to ride it dead flat. Wire bead. Combo
tread. Mounts easily and as straight as an arrow, with no massaging out the
bumps...

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Re: [RBW] Re: 650b Roadeo

[Steven Frederick]

No, not talking a conversion, talking a bike with the Roadeo's geometry and
light tubes, built around my favorite wheel/tire size...

Custom would probably be the only way to get it...


On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe it's technically feasible..you should be able to find
 center-pull brakes with enough reach to get the pads down to a 650B rim.
 But I suspect one ride on a 700c Roadeo would disabuse you of any notion
 that you need this option.

 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

 On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:54:11 PM UTC-7, stevef wrote:

 I'm starting to think my perfect bike might be a Roadeo built around 38mm
 tires on 650b wheels.  I notice that Riv says made to order-please call
 for Roadeos-wonder if they'd make them that much to order?

 I'd ask them directly but I'm not nearly serious enough about it to bug
 them...yet!

 Steve

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on tires

[Steven Frederick]

I can certainly find either type of tire useful in some applications.  I
just thought this was kind of a nifty summation of his preferences...

Steve


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote:

 I too prefer Joy over Work.  However, I think Grant is probably making his
 decision based on more than just the feel of the tire.  He would likely be
 willing to concede that a lighter tire with a supple(r) casing and thin
 tread might provide a superior ride, but the benefits of a thicker tread
 and stiffer sidewall outweigh those performance gains.

 -Aaron Young
 The Dalles, OR


 On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 7:23 AM, tdusky tdu...@comcast.net wrote:

 From my own experience, Riding on tires that Jan likes is pure joy,
 Riding on tires that Grant likes is work. I prefer joy over work.
 Tom Dusky
 Huntington Woods, MI


 On Friday, March 14, 2014 8:59:31 AM UTC-4, stevef wrote:

 Interesting encapsulation of Grant's preference for beefier tires.  (vs
 the supple casing, light racy tires Jan espouses)  From the RBW website
 description of a Conti tire:

 ...It has a good, stiff sidewall for reduced flex and fatigue, and for
 more support should you ever have to ride it dead flat. Wire bead. Combo
 tread. Mounts easily and as straight as an arrow, with no massaging out the
 bumps...

 Steve

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Re: [RBW] Re: rear rack mounting question

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Riv has bent/bendable struts available-just pick the length you need:

http://www.rivbike.com/category-s/149.htm

Nitto racks come with both bent and straight struts included, FWIW.  Maybe
a local to you lister has some you can get without paying shipping?

Steve


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Dave davele...@gmail.com wrote:

 It became the bleriot, so I had always assumed so.  It also came to me as
 a fully-built 650b bike.  Not sure how the previous owner dialed in their
 brakes, but when i contacted him he said he never had any trouble.

 The problem is likely yours-truly.

 On Monday, March 10, 2014 2:20:34 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Are you sure this frame was designed or 650b?  If the brake reach is 73
 with 650b; it would be 54 with 700c, which should at least handle a 38mm
 tire and fenders.

 On Monday, March 10, 2014 1:01:04 PM UTC-4, Dave wrote:

 the Paul Racer's have 55-67mm reach; the silver (tektro 556) have 55-73

 Either way I'm having a hell of a time getting the pads to land squarely
 on the rims.  I guess this bike is a prototype for a reason.  Any berkeley
 folks willing and able to give me a hand would be much appreciated!


 On Monday, March 10, 2014 9:40:37 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 so you must be referring to the racer m not the racer cp.  Maybe
 someone would be looking to swap.

 m

 On Monday, March 10, 2014 11:04:54 AM UTC-4, Dave wrote:

 silver's have more reach, and this bike needs it.  Potentially
 interested in selling them; need to make sure I can get this all dialed in
 first.  Will post if I decide to sell em.

 Thanks,
 Dave

 On Monday, March 10, 2014 5:19:02 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 I swapped out my paul centerpull brakes for Silver brakes...  Why?

 On Sunday, March 9, 2014 9:27:54 PM UTC-4, Dave wrote:

 Hey now,

 I swapped out my paul centerpull brakes for Silver brakes on my
 proto-bleriot, and now the non-drive side seat-stay attachment is
 completely blocked by the brake.  Do I need both seat-stay attachments 
 for
 the rack (nitto big rear rack) to be safe/sturdy?  Should I try moving 
 the
 rack to the lower set of eyelets on the rear dropout?

 Tried to capture the issue in a photo:

 https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7391/13048773834_3ac9ac3e85_h.jpg

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[RBW] 650b Roadeo

[Steven Frederick]

I'm starting to think my perfect bike might be a Roadeo built around 38mm
tires on 650b wheels.  I notice that Riv says made to order-please call
for Roadeos-wonder if they'd make them that much to order?

I'd ask them directly but I'm not nearly serious enough about it to bug
them...yet!

Steve

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Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam

[Steven Frederick]

I may have seen a posting of your bike somewhere in my decision process
and was completely enamored
with the look of blue wrapped drops and blackwalls - stunning look.  

Yeah, this is the only Riv I've owned that I thought looked better with
black sidewalls than tan.
The bartape is Fizik Microtex Metalic blue-over Fizik bar gel, it's quite
comfortable.

Steve


On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 5:00 PM, djbardwil djbard...@gmail.com wrote:

 Steve -
 I may have seen a posting of your bike somewhere in my decision process
 and was completely enamored with the look of blue wrapped drops and
 blackwalls - stunning look.
 I have a 48 cm / 650b Sam and it is just perfect.

 Philip - I have a lot to learn with gearing and part of the reason I went
 this route, but I understand a 3:1 ratio is a good place to start.  I am
 not sure what 72 is referring to but have a new research point to dig
 into.  I appreciate your input.

 I believe the frame arrives on Monday and I cannot wait to get this
 project underway!

 Thanks.

 On Friday, February 28, 2014 10:46:54 AM UTC-5, stevef wrote:

 I'm glad you posted, David--I was concerned that the auction didn't
 mention that this frame is made for 650b wheels, and I was worred that the
 buyer might not be aware.  Since you're here, though, you probably know
 that!

 I have a 52cm 650Beam-great little bike..welcome to the club!

 Steve

 In its natural habitat:




 On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:54 PM, djbardwil djba...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit
 my addiction to Rivendell.  I was a bit surprised that only one bid came
 through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may
 have been limited.  Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs.  It
 should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully
 as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle.  Initial thought was to
 possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a
 wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some
 homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc.  Nothing is set in stone at
 the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the
 possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's
 done.

 I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and
 camaraderie.  Photos will prove the project is underway!

 Thanks -
 David





 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:52:50 PM UTC-5, Coconutbill wrote:

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Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam

[Steven Frederick]

I'm glad you posted, David--I was concerned that the auction didn't mention
that this frame is made for 650b wheels, and I was worred that the buyer
might not be aware.  Since you're here, though, you probably know that!

I have a 52cm 650Beam-great little bike..welcome to the club!

Steve

In its natural habitat:




On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:54 PM, djbardwil djbard...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit
 my addiction to Rivendell.  I was a bit surprised that only one bid came
 through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may
 have been limited.  Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs.  It
 should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully
 as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle.  Initial thought was to
 possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a
 wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some
 homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc.  Nothing is set in stone at
 the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the
 possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's
 done.

 I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and
 camaraderie.  Photos will prove the project is underway!

 Thanks -
 David





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Re: [RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

[Steven Frederick]

I have 4, trail bikes, and there's not much overlap there. I've been trail
riding since before I discovered Rivendell, and I've always liked non-rivvy
mtbs, with suspension and all that.

I have a Soma Juice 29'er hardtail set up as a singlespeed, a custom Curtlo
softail 27.5'er (650b) softail for milder cross country, a Turner Burner
27.5er full suspension for bomber trails and riding over silly stuff, and a
Salsa Mukluk fatbike for winter riding and general fun.

Steve


On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Jeff Ong jeffongdes...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a slightly ridiculous number of mountain bikes, although only a few
 of them regularly get taken off-road. I've got a long travel Santa Cruz
 Huckler and a modern (2005-ish) Klein Attitude hardtail. Having at least
 front suspension really does make a huge difference for modern, very
 aggressive trails, I've reluctantly decided. Also, I discovered that as a
 guy in my 40's, I recover a lot quicker if I ride suspended.

 That said, I've also got a MB-Zip which is ridiculously light and fun to
 ride, a very early fillet-brazed Mt. Goat, a nice mid-80's fillet brazed
 Ritchey, and an early 90's Alpinestars elevated chainstay bike that I
 converted to a ridiculous fixed gear after the derailleur hanger bent
 irreparably. Oh, and my daily rider (apart from my Rambouillet) is a mid
 90's Voodoo Bizango converted to drop bars, with fender/rack mounts I
 brazed on myself. That one still sees quite a bit of dirt, too.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

[Steven Frederick]

Mine have been a good investment as well-this was my 5th season with them.
Had to have the stitching touched up a couple of years ago, and this year
added new insoles but they've been otherwise trouble free.  DEFINITELY
worth the money if you want to ride clipless in cold weather!

Steve


On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote:

 My Lake winter boots are EXTREMELY popular with me!
 cheers,
 Andrew

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 why would it be Unpopular?

 Tonester tony.mad...@gmail.com wrote:

 I know it'll be unpopular here, but I broke down and bought a pair of Lake
 winter boots and they're awesome

 On Friday, February 7, 2014 3:19:49 PM UTC-8, Michael Williams wrote:

 Hey all,  so we've finally started getting some rain here in the Bay Area.
   I like commuting in the rain and have a pretty good poncho setup,   but
 Ive always used regular sneakers and some sort of 'waterproof' shoe cover,
   but thats just not cutting it.   What are peoples favorite dry boots for
 riding and  wearing around??   thanks in advance!   -Mike


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Re: [RBW] First Grand Bois Flat :-(

[Steven Frederick]

If you're running GB Hetres, what is your experience with flats?

One flat in 2k+ miles, a very clean puncture from a bit of heavy
wire/staple or something along those lines.  But I'm not terribly flat
prone.  (touch wood!)

Steve


On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:

 Well, so much for one of my fantasies (about the very low incidence of
 flats with Grand Bois Hetres and other high-volume, low-pressure tires).
 Got my first flat last night while I was out for a short ride in the dark.
 Close enough to home that I hoofed it the rest of the way and fixed the
 flat inside the house.

 This was my first flat after about 500-600 miles of riding, which I guess
 isn't *that* bad. Guess my hopes were raised by Jan Heine's blog post:

 The Grand Bois Hetre 650B x 42 mm tires are amazingly flat-proof for
 most riders. I have had two flats in three years of urban riding on them.
 It's probably a combination of the width - less pressure means that the
 tire can roll over debris without it cutting into the rubber - and perhaps
 the tread profile.

 If you're running GB Hetres, what is your experience with flats?

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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

[Steven Frederick]

Fat front tandem-that's awesome!


On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
thill@gmail.com wrote:

 Here's my tandem. My stokers are 4, 6, and 8 years old. The oldest has
 been known to roll 70-mile hilly days back to back.
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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

[Steven Frederick]

...it's going to be on like Donkey Kong...his dad is a huge dork...

Heh, phrases like that probably won't help your case...B-)

Steve


On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Curtis McKenzie cmcy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bill,

 Enjoy the window for it is ephemeral.

 Curtis who knows from experience McKenzie


 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.comwrote:

 My tandem is an Ibis Touche.  700c with Jack Browns currently.  My wife
 and I have only ridden it a couple times, before having kids.  I did a
 century on it with a guest stoker about 4 years ago, though, and it was
 great.  It has a unicrown fork with tons of clearance, so I could go a lot
 bigger than a Jack Brown in front.  In back it's a lot cozier.  I test-fit
 some 700x37 Paselas.  It cleared but not with enough margin to actually
 leave them on there.  Now that I'm a more experienced fender-fitter, I may
 try to get fenders around the Jack Browns.  The bike is cream, and I'm
 wondering if cream longboards would match or clash.

 My 12 year old son is *almost* tall enough to stoke.  I never bothered
 putting a kiddie conversion on, because I had a Burley Piccolo to use.
  Once he can stoke, then it's going to be on like Donkey Kong.  Hopefully
 there will be a small window where he's tall enough to ride the tandem with
 me and not old enough to realize his dad is a huge dork and not want to
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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

[Steven Frederick]

FWIW, I only (relatively) briefly lost interest in hanging out with my
dad-we canoed together when I was in my late teens and camped and hunted
together when I was in my 30's.  Dad was never a cycler but if he had been,
I don't doubt we would've done that together too.


On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 OUCH!  Owned!

 In reality, he's always begging to go on S24Os, so I expect he'll be game
 for a lot of things this summer.  Although he likes playing video games as
 much as any pre-teen, he also is an expert at both Cribbage and Pinochle,
 so I'm not going to expect him to be a completely run of the mill teen.

 On Friday, January 31, 2014 12:56:46 PM UTC-8, stevef wrote:

 ...it's going to be on like Donkey Kong...his dad is a huge dork...

 Heh, phrases like that probably won't help your case...B-)

 Steve


 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Curtis McKenzie cmc...@gmail.comwrote:

 Bill,

 Enjoy the window for it is ephemeral.

 Curtis who knows from experience McKenzie


 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.comwrote:

 My tandem is an Ibis Touche.  700c with Jack Browns currently.  My wife
 and I have only ridden it a couple times, before having kids.  I did a
 century on it with a guest stoker about 4 years ago, though, and it was
 great.  It has a unicrown fork with tons of clearance, so I could go a lot
 bigger than a Jack Brown in front.  In back it's a lot cozier.  I test-fit
 some 700x37 Paselas.  It cleared but not with enough margin to actually
 leave them on there.  Now that I'm a more experienced fender-fitter, I may
 try to get fenders around the Jack Browns.  The bike is cream, and I'm
 wondering if cream longboards would match or clash.

 My 12 year old son is *almost* tall enough to stoke.  I never bothered
 putting a kiddie conversion on, because I had a Burley Piccolo to use.
  Once he can stoke, then it's going to be on like Donkey Kong.  Hopefully
 there will be a small window where he's tall enough to ride the tandem with
 me and not old enough to realize his dad is a huge dork and not want to
 ride it with me.


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Re: [RBW] Re: My Bike Life Is Lacking

[Steven Frederick]

My preference is to put my bike(s) inside the vehicle as well, to the
extent that I look for vehicles with that capability when I buy them.


On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote:

 Our family's one car is a Honda Odyssey, the same car Leah has. We
 bought it because at the time my son and used a tandem for our
 transportation. We could just pick up the tandem and roll it into the
 car, without removing wheels or anything of that sort.

 It is much, much easier to put a bike in a Honda Odyssey than to put
 it on a rack (provided the third row of seats are folded down, which
 can be done in 30 seconds). You just pick up the bike and put it in
 the car. If the Honda Odyssey is transporting four or fewer people and
 therefore only needs two rows of seats, putting the bike in the car is
 trivial. If the rear seats are still up, then it becomes more of a
 nuisance.

 On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 4:52 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Putting a bike on a hitch rack is usually easier than putting it inside a
  vehicle, unless you have a big cargo van without back seats.  Just lift
 the
  bike onto the rack  latch the straps.  You don't need to rearrange
  anything, worry about the bike shifting, or whether two bikes will
 collide.
  Many models come with built in locks to use when needed.
 
  Michael
 
 
  On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 12:16:24 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
 
  I was just wondering about ease/quickness of carrying. I had a big SUV
  once upon a time, and loved how easy it was to toss the bike in the
 back and
  drive to the park.
 
  On Monday, January 27, 2014 8:27:42 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
 
  I can if it's just me and the kids. Disaster if husband comes. Why?
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Jan 27, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Leah, can you put the bike inside the van, or is there too much
  kids/stuff in there?
 
  On Monday, January 27, 2014 3:48:09 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
 
  Joan, you've just hit in my current plan! Ha! I'm looking at what kind
  of bike rack my Honda Oddysey (no hitch) would take. I'll be perusing
  Craigslist in the near future! Yay! Thanks for a judge in the right
  direction.
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Jan 27, 2014, at 2:31 PM, Joan Oppel oppe...@verizon.net wrote:
 
  Leah - I really sympathize with the total change your move has made in
  your biking locale and routine.  I almost hesitate to write the
 following -
  because it's sort of against the use the bike for as much as possible
  philosophy.  I also should point out that I'm lucky to live in a
 place where
  I can do almost any thing by bike from my house.  Ok, all that said,
 here's
  what I suggest: put the bike on your car and drive to some place to
 ride.
  Heresy, I know.  But at least you would be getting out to ride!  Can
 you
  park your car somewhere that would allow you to do errands, grocery
  shopping, etc by bike and return to the car?  Using the car for only
 part of
  the trip is still good, in my opinion.  I know people who, for
 whatever
  reason, just live to far from work to bike the whole way so they
 drive part
  of the way, park and then ride.
 
  It's still biking and better than notbiking!
  Joan
 
  On 01/27/14, LeahFoyjonasa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Well, today I set out on the school commute with fresh hopes and clear
  mind. Today was Lincoln's big debut of riding his 16 inch Specialized
  Hotrock bike solo. (He is usually hooked onto me via Trail-a-Bike.) I
 meant
  to appreciate the sensory experience, but I appreciated that none of
 us
  became road kill, instead!
 
  Ha!
  Leah
 
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Re: [RBW] From Sadness to Happiness - I'm Riding Again!

[Steven Frederick]

Glad to hear it!


On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks to the miracles of modern science and physiotherapy, I'm back
 riding my bike a lot sooner than expected!  I'll still need a knee
 replacement eventually, but I was referred to a sports medicine physician
 who has been giving me injections of Synvisc - a synthetic synovial fluid -
 in my arthritic right knee. I still have one more injection to go, but
 after that, the knee should be good for another 9-12 months! This stuff
 isn't cheap, and it isn't covered by my extended medical insurance, but
 it's a small price to pay for freedom from pain and greatly increased
 mobility.

 I just wanted to share my good news since so many of you were so lovely
 and expressed such great concern when I was convinced I'd have to stop
 riding until I had surgery. Love you guys and gals.

 Cecily (the happy biking librarian)

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Re: [RBW] Re: My Bike Life Is Lacking

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It veers off topic, but I'm in the market for a new bike hauler and the
revised/2014 Ford Transit Connect is the top contender.  The van version
has tons of room for bikes and gear in the back, drives like a Focus, and
gets around 30mpg hwy.

http://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/transitconnect-commercial/


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 +1 on the Honda Element as a rockin' bike mobile

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Re: [RBW] Re: My Bike Life Is Lacking

[Steven Frederick]

The new one looks a bit sleeker and runs on and updated (Focus) chassis,
but has plenty of space for bikes and camping gear...

The long-wheelbase van features 130.6 cu. ft. of cargo space and can
accommodate items up to seven feet long, five feet wide and nearly four
feet tall.




On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Actually this is all about bike transport... and vehicles like the Transit
 do play a critical role... I hope Ford doesn't fuddle with it too much...
 longer wheelbase, yes, more power, yes... more mass-appeal and trim
 options?... uh uh...I hope not.  Leave that 'commercial/utility' look
 alone, I say...

 On Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:50:09 AM UTC-5, stevef wrote:

 It veers off topic, but I'm in the market for a new bike hauler and the
 revised/2014 Ford Transit Connect is the top contender.  The van version
 has tons of room for bikes and gear in the back, drives like a Focus, and
 gets around 30mpg hwy.

 http://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/transitconnect-commercial/


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 +1 on the Honda Element as a rockin' bike mobile

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bikes for sale-Michigan area listers please take note

[Steven Frederick]

Thanks, Evan-no firm interest locally as yet but I'm in no hurry...


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Evan evanellio...@gmail.com wrote:

 Beautiful bikes, Steve! I'll be surprised (and a bit confused) if they
 don't sell quickly. Orange X0-1!!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Racing Sucks

[Steven Frederick]

I sure like my bib shorts for longer rides.  A hi-viz jersey is a practical
choice too-safe, comfortable/breathable, and the pockets are handy.  If you
buy Club cut, or size up, they don't have to be overly tight either...

Steve



On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:

 I often wear Lycra clothing, and I don't race. Lycra shorts in particular
 are commonly worn by many non-racers, including randonneurs.

 The latest issue of American Randonneur has an advertisement from Boure
 cycling wear, and only one photo that I can find (of the dozens in the
 issue) that shows anyone riding in anything *but* standard (probably
 Lycra-based) shorts.

 For many people (including me), they are more comfortable on long rides
 than regular shorts.

 --Eric Norris
 Email: campyonly...@me.com
 Web: www.campyonly.com
 Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
 Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
 Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy

 On Jan 20, 2014, at 9:19 AM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Many people wear lycra cycling clothing for reasons that have nothing
 whatsoever to do with racing.  People here ought to keep that in mind

 .Do tell?

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 5:30 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On 01/20/2014 08:22 AM, Ron Mc wrote:

 honestly, I'd rather rather ride with either of those women - even
 misguided humor is preferred company to sanctimonious.  I just think it's a
 shame that every time they go into a bike shop they're inundated with the
 image of racing to the point that it affects how they spend their $2000 and
 how they dress to partake.  One thing that was clear, my large gentleman
 friend got the idea just from seeing me in passing, seeing that you can
 ride in comfort, and went right to work on his cockpit and his apparel.


 Many people wear lycra cycling clothing for reasons that have nothing
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Gets Fatter - a set on Flickr

[Steven Frederick]

My QB is one of the 650b-wheeled versions from the last run of silver
models and it rocks with Hetres, and rolls with PariMotos.  B-)

Steve


On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Philip Williamson 
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 I do like fat tires on the Quickbeam! The rear axle position becomes an
 important consideration, though, and you find that darumas are from the
 devil.
 If we ever get any rain in California again, I'll see how the metal
 fenders fit over the 37mm Ocean Air / Soma C-lines. It should be fine.

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com

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 Inspired by the ride of the 42mm Grand Bois Hetres on my Bleriot, I spent
 a couple of hours today changing out the tires on my Quickbeam from the
 700x28 size I've been using forever to a set of 700x35s (Paselas, purchased
 from another member of this list).

 Changing the tires was no big deal. The bulk of the time was spent
 adjusting the fenders to fit around the fatter rubber. That involved, among
 other things, using a Dremel to cut off the protruding end of the daruma
 bolt that holds the front fender onto the fork crown. Yes, the 35s needed
 every millimeter of clearance I could get (the rear wheel wouldn't even
 spin when I first put it in, due to a lack of clearance, even though the
 28s had gobs of room).

 Results are in the photos here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157639957181314/

 I haven't had a chance to ride it yet, other that a spin up and down the
 block, but from an appearance standpoint alone it was worth it. The fatter
 tires certainly fill out the fenders much better.

 Ride report once I've had a chance to get it on the road.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Gets Fatter - a set on Flickr

[Steven Frederick]

It was only done for 50cm and 52 frames.  No TCO on my 52 as far as I can
recall!






On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Tom Goodmann tgoodm...@gmail.com wrote:

 That 650B QB sounds interesting; I'd love to try one of those sometime.
  Does it yield a bit more clearance, then, in terms of potential toe
 overlap?  --Tom


 On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.comwrote:

 My QB is one of the 650b-wheeled versions from the last run of silver
 models and it rocks with Hetres, and rolls with PariMotos.  B-)

 Steve


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 philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:

 I do like fat tires on the Quickbeam! The rear axle position becomes an
 important consideration, though, and you find that darumas are from the
 devil.
 If we ever get any rain in California again, I'll see how the metal
 fenders fit over the 37mm Ocean Air / Soma C-lines. It should be fine.

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com

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 Inspired by the ride of the 42mm Grand Bois Hetres on my Bleriot, I
 spent a couple of hours today changing out the tires on my Quickbeam from
 the 700x28 size I've been using forever to a set of 700x35s (Paselas,
 purchased from another member of this list).

 Changing the tires was no big deal. The bulk of the time was spent
 adjusting the fenders to fit around the fatter rubber. That involved, among
 other things, using a Dremel to cut off the protruding end of the daruma
 bolt that holds the front fender onto the fork crown. Yes, the 35s needed
 every millimeter of clearance I could get (the rear wheel wouldn't even
 spin when I first put it in, due to a lack of clearance, even though the
 28s had gobs of room).

 Results are in the photos here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157639957181314/

 I haven't had a chance to ride it yet, other that a spin up and down
 the block, but from an appearance standpoint alone it was worth it. The
 fatter tires certainly fill out the fenders much better.

 Ride report once I've had a chance to get it on the road.

  --Eric
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 www.campyonly.com
 www.wheelsnorth.org
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[RBW] Bikes for sale-Michigan area listers please take note

[Steven Frederick]

I'm trying to thin the herd, as they say--listing some of my bikes for
sale.  52-54cm sized road bikes, including a classic Bianchi, a Heron Road,
a Bridgestone XO-1, a nice CoMotion tandem and a Rans recumbent.  Ad with
pics and description here:

http://mmba.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8t=122634p=846745#p846745

Really prefer not to ship at this point but would be willing to travel and
meet up with interested buyers within a reasonable distance of Lansing, MI.

Thanks, Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI

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Re: [RBW] Riv e-bike conversion?

[Steven Frederick]

I agree, with the further caveat that they don't use it to go too fast on
MUPS and other non-motorized trails/routes.


On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 10:38 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 IMHO, not anathema at all! I know there's that divide in the bicycling
 world between assists and not, but I think it's bogus. If it gets someone
 on a bike, or out of a car, then it's 100% OK by me.
 So there you have it, The Cyclotourist says it's OK!
 Feel free to quote me on that.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 5:25 PM, David Mayne dma...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a Bionx powered Bleriot. Severe osteo arthritis in the knee led to
 it, the only way I can ride much now in hilly Seattle. I got over any
 notion of shame.

 David


 On Friday, January 10, 2014, Ray Shine wrote:

 I have very seriously considered it -- several times. I am an old guy
 (65+) but in relatively good health. I don't need an ebike, but there are
 plenty of times where I would welcome the ability to use power assist on my
 pedaling.  If I only cycled for health reasons, then I would see no point
 in a conversion. But I cycle mainly for transportation purposes, and
 because there is very little free/cheap parking in San Francisco.  I carry
 cargo on my bike, and I have several hills in between my home and my
 office. I can and do make the commute each day without an ebike, but I
 would have no qualms at all using an ebike on the commute.  Price has been
 a factor, as well. But, the technology is evolving very rapidly, and there
 are very reasonable ebikes on the market. I would be more inclined to go
 for a factory build now rather than a conversion. I see often some very
 impressive factory ebikes on the streets of SF.

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 *Subject:* [RBW] Riv e-bike conversion?

 I know the very idea is anathema, but has anyone had any experience with
 converting a Rivendell bike of any model to an e-bike?

 Thanks,
 Cecily
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Re: [RBW] Tire Width and Performance

[Steven Frederick]

I notice that effect a lot on the fat bike.  LOTS of wheel weight there!
When you hit a climb with momentum on your side, you can feel that rotating
mass throwing you up the hill.  It feels similar to the way a fixed gear
seems to push you along as you pedal it...

Steve


On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On 01/03/2014 01:02 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:


 The difference between A and B will be the extra work the rider had to do
 to spin up the extra 200g of rolling weight.  I'm saying that difference
 will be small.  The heavier wheel is harder to spin up, but the magnitude
 of the difference is small.  If the total power output of the rider is ~100
 Watts, then the difference between the two will be 1 or 2 Watts.  Less than
 the difference we suffer by running a dynamo.


 And the additional weight will act as a flywheel, and help keep the
 rotation more nearly constant.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Travel - Share your thoughts

[Steven Frederick]

If you're getting a rental car, just make sure you get one that can fit a
bike.  When I went to Tucson a few Christmas's ago, I rented a Dodge
Caliber and it made a fine bike hauler with the back seats folded.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/5025927918/lightbox/

Can't say there was much else  to like about the car (which we dubbed the
Dodge Ugly) but for a rental it was fine...

Steve Frederick, in frozen, snowy East Lansing, MI


On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just to tack onto this discussion, what do people do when they get to
 their destination?  Perfect world, unpack the bike and ride from the
 airport, or taxi to hotel then ride, but what if bike is only part of the
 trip?  How do you manage transporting by rental car?

 Would like to hear how people manage this in practical terms, i've always
 wanted to bring a bike but it seems like too much of a hassle.

 On Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:26:18 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:

 I can certainly see how it would be more convenient to schlep around. But
 I am a little concerned about this size frame fitting into the SS box. I
 haven't done any extensive reading or first hand trying, but it looks like
 it might be a no-go.

 KJ


 On Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:10:02 PM UTC-5, dailyrandonneur wrote:

 I've traveled with singles and tandems, both full size and SS. Every
 airline is different as another responder mentioned, and they change their
 policies from time to time, so nothing is completely static.

 One relative constant has been allowable size for checked luggage, 62
 linear inches. Outside that dimension you typically pay oversize fees even
 if you don't exceed the maxiumum weight limit.

 For the occasional trip, there is no doubt that paying the oversize fee
 and dragging around a full-size bike box is cheaper. I liked the Crateworks
 corrugated plastic box, it is lighter than a hard case but tougher than
 cardboard, folds up for storage and can be re-used.

 After a few trips, however, you could end up pay as much in fees as
 buying couplers and the SS case. The advantages of SS, in terms of
 reduced packing hassle and ease of movement during your trip, are of value
 to me even if I never fully pay off through travel. This is especially true
 with a tandem, where the trouble of lugging a huge box and paying big fees
 at the counter isn't my idea of fun travel.

 If you know you are going to travel with a frameset and are getting it
 repainted anyway, it's the right time to consider couplers. I recommend
 them.

 Ed
 Washington, DC



 On Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:16:04 AM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:

  Hey Y'alls,

 I'm starting to think about air travel with a bike, with the first
 possible destination of the Bay Area this upcoming summer (hoping to
 repatriate the Ram Dawg, at least for a visit).

 Do any of you have experience with bike boxes or bike bags, on an
 airline? TSC/ATA cases, fabric bags, cardboard bike boxes even?

 At first, I entertained the idea of installing SS couplers on the Ram
 (it needs new paint anyways) but together, the retrofit would cost large
 $$. So now I'm thinking about just flying with it, as is. The Ram is a
 66cm, so finding a box that would accommodate its sprawl would be one of
 the chief concerns.

 Any good experiences? Things to avoid? Anything to report with
 various airlines' policies and costs, as well?

 Thanks!

 Kieran in Toronto

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[RBW] Re: NS bag and Nitto rack FS

[Steven Frederick]

Howabout $80 shipped for the bag?  Anyone?


On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rack is sold but the bag is still available-price drop to $90 shipped.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/11532217756/lightbox/

 Thanks, Steve


 On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.comwrote:

 I also have the Nigel Smithe greed tweed rackpack and the Nitto Campee
 rack from Anne's Bleriot available.  They're like new.  I'd like $130
 shipped for the rack, $110 for the bag, or $220 for both

 Pics:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/11532268503/lightbox/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/11532217756/lightbox/

 And the bike before the parts and accessories came off:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/11463313625/lightbox/

 Thanks!  Prices negotiable on all this, BTW.

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[RBW] Re: Bleriot build kit for sale

[Steven Frederick]

No bites on this as a complete kit, so let me know if you're interested in
just part of it.  Offers welcome or tell me what bits you'd like and I'll
suggest a price...

Wheels are gone, rack is gone, but NS rack pack, wire bead Fatty Rumkin
tires (with tubes!) and all other parts are still available.

Thanks, Steve


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I sold Anne's Bleriot frameset so I have all the parts from it available.
 These parts are nearly new and I'd like to sell the as a kit if possible to
 keep the shipping and transaction simple:

 Sugino XD Crankset, (170mm arms, 26/36/48 rings, some shoe rub on ND arm)
 Shimano bottom bracket and SRAM chain, 8-speed barend shifters, 105 triple
 derailers, the higher end (black plastic not grey) Shimano brake levers and
 Tektro long reach calipers, 11-28 Shimano Hyperglide 8 speed cassette (not
 pictured) and Shimano cables and housing cut to fit a 53cm Bleriot.
 (chain's cut to fit that bike, too)

 $400 shipped.

 The moustache bars are old and beat up, and the ends have been trimmed for
 knee clearance, the seatpost is nothing special-an old Trek System model.
 The stem is nice, though, a very short extension (50 or 60mm?) Nitto
 Technomic, I bought new for this build so it's been installed but never
 ridden.  I'd include the stem for another $40.  And the post and bars for
 another $30.  The saddle is a Cloud9 lady's model with considerable
 padding, a cut-out, and pink breast cancer trim and graphics-it's like new
 and I'd include it for another $30.

 Planning to keep the MKS pedals, but that's negotiable, too.

 The 650b wheels and tires are available, too--contact me for details if
 interested...

 Thanks,

 Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI


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Re: [RBW] How cold was your first day ride?

[Steven Frederick]

Too busy to ride on the 1st but got out today on the fat bike.  10 degrees
with a windchill of -8.  Just rode around the pathways and green space
north of my house--played around on the sledding hill, and bounced over
logs and through snow drifts.  Fun, but four miles was enough...

Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI


On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Bill Fulford bill.fulfor...@gmail.comwrote:

 Kennebunk Maine, 19 degrees, felt like 4. Baby it's cold out there. Rode
 the Hunqapillar and enjoyed the ride.

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[RBW] Re: NS bag and Nitto rack FS

[Steven Frederick]

Rack is sold but the bag is still available-price drop to $90 shipped.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/11532217756/lightbox/

Thanks, Steve


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I also have the Nigel Smithe greed tweed rackpack and the Nitto Campee
 rack from Anne's Bleriot available.  They're like new.  I'd like $130
 shipped for the rack, $110 for the bag, or $220 for both

 Pics:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/11532268503/lightbox/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/11532217756/lightbox/

 And the bike before the parts and accessories came off:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/11463313625/lightbox/

 Thanks!  Prices negotiable on all this, BTW.

 Steve


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[RBW] Bleriot build kit for sale

[Steven Frederick]

I sold Anne's Bleriot frameset so I have all the parts from it available.
These parts are nearly new and I'd like to sell the as a kit if possible to
keep the shipping and transaction simple:

Sugino XD Crankset, (170mm arms, 26/36/48 rings, some shoe rub on ND arm)
Shimano bottom bracket and SRAM chain, 8-speed barend shifters, 105 triple
derailers, the higher end (black plastic not grey) Shimano brake levers and
Tektro long reach calipers, 11-28 Shimano Hyperglide 8 speed cassette (not
pictured) and Shimano cables and housing cut to fit a 53cm Bleriot.
(chain's cut to fit that bike, too)

$400 shipped.

The moustache bars are old and beat up, and the ends have been trimmed for
knee clearance, the seatpost is nothing special-an old Trek System model.
The stem is nice, though, a very short extension (50 or 60mm?) Nitto
Technomic, I bought new for this build so it's been installed but never
ridden.  I'd include the stem for another $40.  And the post and bars for
another $30.  The saddle is a Cloud9 lady's model with considerable
padding, a cut-out, and pink breast cancer trim and graphics-it's like new
and I'd include it for another $30.

Planning to keep the MKS pedals, but that's negotiable, too.

The 650b wheels and tires are available, too--contact me for details if
interested...

Thanks,

Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI

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[RBW] Re: Bleriot build kit for sale

[Steven Frederick]

Duh, forgot the picture link!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/11532183774/lightbox/

More coffee needed...


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I sold Anne's Bleriot frameset so I have all the parts from it available.
 These parts are nearly new and I'd like to sell the as a kit if possible to
 keep the shipping and transaction simple:

 Sugino XD Crankset, (170mm arms, 26/36/48 rings, some shoe rub on ND arm)
 Shimano bottom bracket and SRAM chain, 8-speed barend shifters, 105 triple
 derailers, the higher end (black plastic not grey) Shimano brake levers and
 Tektro long reach calipers, 11-28 Shimano Hyperglide 8 speed cassette (not
 pictured) and Shimano cables and housing cut to fit a 53cm Bleriot.
 (chain's cut to fit that bike, too)

 $400 shipped.

 The moustache bars are old and beat up, and the ends have been trimmed for
 knee clearance, the seatpost is nothing special-an old Trek System model.
 The stem is nice, though, a very short extension (50 or 60mm?) Nitto
 Technomic, I bought new for this build so it's been installed but never
 ridden.  I'd include the stem for another $40.  And the post and bars for
 another $30.  The saddle is a Cloud9 lady's model with considerable
 padding, a cut-out, and pink breast cancer trim and graphics-it's like new
 and I'd include it for another $30.

 Planning to keep the MKS pedals, but that's negotiable, too.

 The 650b wheels and tires are available, too--contact me for details if
 interested...

 Thanks,

 Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI


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[RBW] NS bag and Nitto rack FS

[Steven Frederick]

I also have the Nigel Smithe greed tweed rackpack and the Nitto Campee rack
from Anne's Bleriot available.  They're like new.  I'd like $130 shipped
for the rack, $110 for the bag, or $220 for both

Pics:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/11532268503/lightbox/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/11532217756/lightbox/

And the bike before the parts and accessories came off:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/11463313625/lightbox/

Thanks!  Prices negotiable on all this, BTW.

Steve

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bleriot build kit for sale

[Steven Frederick]

Technomic.  And it appears to be a 5cm extension.  There are insertion
marks below and less so approx 1 cm above the min. insertion mark...

Steve


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does it say Technomic or Nitto on the site of the stem?


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Re: [RBW] Off-road excursion, not intentional

[Steven Frederick]

Assuming that isn't a rhetorical question, I think it's a combination of
target avoidance fixation and that countersteer thing, where you first have
to go a bit to the right before you can swerve left.  I was a bit
squirrelly early in my road riding career and popped off the edge of the
pavement on a number of occasions.  Fortunately my mountain biking
experience kept me from crashing as a result of any of these off road
excursions...

Once on a century in southern Oregon I went down into a grassy ditch,
rolled along it for a few yards and popped up onto a driveway and back onto
the road.  The group I was with was agog, but my buddy who I'd ridden with
quite a bit said don't worry, he's always doing shit like that.  B-)

Getting off a too small, twitchy Trek aluminum road bike onto a properly
sized Riv was a big help in keeping me on the straight and narrow.  That
and practice.

Steve


On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why is it that when you get too close to the right edge of the road, it's
 hard to pull it back?

 I had a little brief off road excursion on one of my regular routes
 yesterday.  I was too close to the edge, and it just started going over, so
 I went with it rather than fight it.  Thankfully the ditch was smooth and
 grassy, and the beer bottle I ran over didn't break.  I was able to compose
 myself and pull back on the road without damage to man or machine.  But it
 could have been much worse had conditions been different.  I was probably
 going around 20 at the time.

 Ok - let's not do that again anytime soon :)


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Re: [RBW] Re: Caveman ketchup

[Steven Frederick]

Last time I looked at a carton of F/F 1/21/2 the first (non-dairy)
ingredient was...corn syrup...



On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Philip Williamson 
philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:

 Fat free half and half - I fell for that once (no idea why, it's not my
 style). Neither cream NOR milk! Half carageenan, half water?

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com

 On Monday, November 25, 2013 9:30:30 AM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote:

 I'm not arguing about whether you should like sweet things. You should
 like what you like. I'm just saying that if you take ketchup, a
 condiment whose main flavor is sweet, and you remove all the sugar,
 you have something else other than ketchup. It might be something
 delicious, but it's not ketchup.

 (Also, fat-free half  half: Half what, and half what? It's a mystery to
 me.)

 On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com
 wrote:
  Anne,
 
  Actually, once our family stopped eating sugar (and other sweeteners)
 all
  the time in most everything (seriously, look at the labels. If it's
  processed, it has some form of sugar in it, for starters), the natural
  flavors of real food wake up and are far more lively. Ketchup is a
 sauce,
  and has no need for sweetener.
 
  With abandon,
  Patrick
 
 
  On Monday, November 25, 2013 10:10:10 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
 
  I'm trying to understand what you want in the flavor here, Hugh. I can
  understand trying to avoid high fructose corn syrup, and I also can
  understand dialing down the sugar somewhat,  but isn't trying to have
  unsweetened ketchup like having a chocolate bar without chocolate?
  Ketchup is a fruit butter, so it's flavored with sugar (and a lot of
  it) and vinegar (and a lot of it) to make it sweet and sour. If you
  take out the sugar, you have sour. Sour is good, but in what way would
  it be like ketchup?
 
  On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 3:11 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote:
   Patrick,
  
   Don't know if you have Trader Joe's out there but they sell an
 organic
   ketchup that has 2 grams of sugar per table spoon like Deacon I'd
 like
   none.
 
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Re: [RBW] Acorn Mini Rando bag for sale.

[Steven Frederick]

Sorry, sold minutes after I listed it!

Steve


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 hi is the bag still availabe?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

[Steven Frederick]

Clickstick is a nice option if you want a kickstand but not often enough to
install one...

[image: Inline image 1]


On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 double kickstand with a loaded bike

 On Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:23:19 AM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:

 If you go on a long enough bike tour, you end up in a lot of places
 where there aren't any trees. The first time I rode across the US, I
 didn't have a kickstand on my bike, and my riding partner had one.
 Those hundreds of miles across the prairies, where Hans could just
 leave his bike on the kickstand and I had to find somewhere to lay
 mine down... I had a kickstand put on in Minnesota. At least, I think
 it was Minnesota, might have been as soon as Minot, North Dakota. Now
 when I tour, I use the kickstand a dozen times a day. They are so
 great.

 YMMV.

 On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:21 PM, rob markwardt robm...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
  I'm with you all the way except for ponchos, twine, and kickstands.  I
 can't
  remember once in my whole life where I wished I'd had a kickstand.
 Maybe if
  I lived where there weren't any trees?
 
  Rob Markwardt
  in the forest of WA
 
 
  On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:05:09 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:
 
  Thought hearing from you all would make an interesting thread.
  I have been enjoying my Sam for a long time now.
  I call these RBW ideas because that is where I first heard about them
  (thought I know they have been around for years, just not embraced so
 much
  these days). I was an alu/composite race bike kinda rider until I
 started to
  fear carbon failures and wanted to look into an all metal bike.
 
  I'll start:
 
  RBW ideas that worked for me:
  1. Wider tires. This has made a huge diff for my quality of riding. I
 used
  to own a typical race bike with 700 x 25, 120psi tires.
  It was great to ride, but hard to handle as it banged and bounced and
  tires got yanked around on gravelly, busted up shoulders. Not to
 mention the
  fear of getting the narrow tires caught in longitudinal road cracks.
  Got my Rivendell bikes and have used 32mm-40mm ~55psi tires on them
 and
  what a difference.
  No more bike bouncing. Slight rumbling and I am through the rough road
  parts. Tires stay on their straight course through the bad patches and
 I
  feel so much safer. Cush to boot. Very stable handling.
  I cannot see myself ever going back to anything narrower than 32mm
 wide
  tires. They seem dangerous to me now.
  2. Fenders. I never woulda dreamed of putting these on a bike in the
 past.
  But now I don't see riding without them making any sense to me. It is
 just
  good to be prepared and not have to worry about grunging up the bike
 with
  the street scum. They look great to boot, and are standard equipment
 on my
  bikes. I love the ultra coverage of the longboards.
  3. Leather saddles. No more butt pain. yay! What a smooth surface to
 sit
  on. I did have a little break in for a coupla weeks, but another dab
 o'
  proofhide broke her in and now its great.
  4. Steel bike/lugs/cream headtubes/metal head badges. Such a stable
 ride,
  beautiful to look at, and no worries about did I tension that bolt
 1nM too
  far?. Feels good to not have to wonder about failures. The lugs and
 paint
  jobs are intoxicating.
  5. Smaller chainrings/bigger cassettes/Triples. Healthiest pedaling I
 have
  ever felt in my legs. The Sugino toothcounts work great for my neck of
 the
  woods. I would never want to go back to 39-52 or 30-40-54 cranks
 again. And,
  I have discovered that compact cranksets aren't for me. I love
 triples.
  6. Big Saddle bags. I love that I can carry lunch, repair kits/tools
 and a
  jacket in my Carradice, etc. So convenient. No more wondering how will
 I fit
  everything into my small nylon wedge.
  7. Cotton tape/twine and shellac. I balked at the idea as just taking
  things too far. But when my Sam arrived with it, it just looked so
 beautiful
  and natural and much better than electrical tape. Its fun to do, too!
  8. Bar end shifters. At first I thought that it was ridiculous not to
 have
  the convenience of brifters on a bike. But when I got my first Rivbike
 with
  bar ends, it was love at first shift. Just makes it so much more fun
 to play
  with those things than brifting. I think it also encourages your hands
 to
  move around more on the bars and I think that helps keep the numbness
 at
  bay. A quiet friction shift is a very satisfying sensation. And
 trimming is
  fun, too.
  9. Platform pedals/ditching the click-ins. I started using MKS Touring
  pedals and cannot see myself ever going back to click ins. It is so
 nice to
  be able to move the foot around and to just hop off the bike and walk
  normally and not feel weird in public duck walking. Starting up at
 green
  lights, all I have to do is just stand on the pedal and go. I don't
 have to
  fumble across the intersection anymore to click in. And think of all
 that
  cash I save by 

Re: [RBW] Some 650b conversion pics

[Steven Frederick]

Looks good-the kneesavers incorporate a lot more cleanly than they did with
my Eggbeaters.  Hope they're working out for you...

Steve


On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:


 https://plus.google.com/photos/110759113894226395434/albums/5948811384486030177

 Hopefully link works.  Set to public.

 Cream SKS Long boards are on the way from Rivendell.  But the rest of it
 is mostly complete.  Yes, I realize the saddle looks terrible, but it still
 works ;)

 New Components
 Handspun 650b wheelset synergy/deore LX, front dynohub
 11-30 HG50 cassette 9sp
 SRAM PC971 chain
 Sugino XD600 46-36-26
 UN-55 bottom bracket 68x113
 DuraAce BS77 9 speed bar ends
 Tektro R559 brakes
 VP Pedals
 Kneesavers
 Bar tape
 Cables

 Reused
 Frame
 Fork
 Handlebars
 Tektro brake levers
 Stem
 Saddle
 Seatpost
 Campy Chorus polished rear derailer
 Campy Racing -T polished front derailer
 Electronic goodies (not mounted in pics)
 Topeak Trunk bag (not mounted in pics)
 Bento bag

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[RBW] Acorn Mini Rando bag for sale.

[Steven Frederick]

I'm going in another direction for luggage on my Stag so I need to sell
this bag.  It's a ranger tan (more of a medium brown) Mini Rando bag by
Acorn.  Very lightly used--I've ridden with it on the bike in dry
conditions 5-6 times--if I put it on a shelf and called it new you would
have no reason to doubt it.  Pics of it on my bike here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/sets/72157637801990463/

They are no longer on Acorn's page, so may have been discontinued--it's
essentially a small rack pack (meant to fit the Nitto M-12 front rack) with
an easy open lid for ready access to your stuff. (opens from either sides
via snaps on leather straps, and is hinged at the back by an elastic over
hook arrangement)  It measures approx. 6.5 wide by 6/6.5 (slight taper
front to back) high by 11. long, so slightly bigger than the Little Loafer.
They were $107 plus shipping new--I'd like $100 shipped for mine, OBO.

Thanks, Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI

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[RBW] Re: Acorn Mini Rando bag for sale.

[Steven Frederick]

And, bag is sold!


On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm going in another direction for luggage on my Stag so I need to sell
 this bag.  It's a ranger tan (more of a medium brown) Mini Rando bag by
 Acorn.  Very lightly used--I've ridden with it on the bike in dry
 conditions 5-6 times--if I put it on a shelf and called it new you would
 have no reason to doubt it.  Pics of it on my bike here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/sets/72157637801990463/

 They are no longer on Acorn's page, so may have been discontinued--it's
 essentially a small rack pack (meant to fit the Nitto M-12 front rack) with
 an easy open lid for ready access to your stuff. (opens from either sides
 via snaps on leather straps, and is hinged at the back by an elastic over
 hook arrangement)  It measures approx. 6.5 wide by 6/6.5 (slight taper
 front to back) high by 11. long, so slightly bigger than the Little Loafer.
 They were $107 plus shipping new--I'd like $100 shipped for mine, OBO.

 Thanks, Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI


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Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonnee, from a Rivendell perspective

[Steven Frederick]

I have to agree--the extended seat tube looks (to put it kindly) odd, and
limits ones ability to raise the bars.  I recently bought a Rawland Stag
and find it a more agreeable design.  (though not without a few issues of
it's own--hey, it's a budget frame)

Steve


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:

 They've simply made the seat tube overly long, but the top of the head
 tube itself is well lower than the top of the ST.  If you like lower bars,
 that'll be great. If you want higher bars without lots of spacers or
 extenders , not so great. Back to using a long quill adapter on a brand new
 frame?  You really should not have to do that with a new frame if it is
 made to fit you.   If the steering tube is long enough before cut you can
 add some spacers, but only so many.  It's rather the opposite of a Riv type
 frame where the top of the HT is well above the top of the ST.  It's more
 like a track bike proportion.




 On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 1:17:08 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:

 Why do you say it's more like a 60 or 61?  Don't really care about
 standover to tell you the truth, just want a comfortable, well balanced
 ride.

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Re: [RBW] Nitto threadless stems?

[Steven Frederick]

Looks like an unbranded Dimension.  (not that there's anything wrong with
that!)  I'm not particularly a fan of the company, but the Velo Orange
threadless stem is pretty decent looking.  Soma and IRD make decent ones,
too.  And heck, the Dimension (and other versions thereof) aren't bad
really.  Can't beat the price!

Steve


On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Scott Henry ske...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't know what look you are really going for, but I just got an email
 earlier today from Handsome Cycles.   They have a $40 silver stem.

 A great company and very easy to deal with.


 https://handsomecycles.com/product/handsome-1-1-8-alloy-stem?utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=Handsome+Parts+and+Accessories+--+Brand+New+Lineutm_content=Handsome+Parts+and+Accessories+--+Brand+New+Line+CID_de6dff63228ad21d2c250fde43d90f6eutm_source=Ipsity%20Email%20Marketing%20Software



 Cheers,
 Scott Henry
 Dayton, OH

 FTM-PTB


 On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 3:40 PM, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Sometimes mixing the classic aesthetic with the new standards can
 be...challenging.

 In what I thought would be a simple task of choosing from several stems
 from my parts bin, I turned up empty handed and in disbelief. I really
 don't have a threadless 1 1/8 26.0 clamp stem?!? How can this be? No
 matter, I'll run by the bike shop and grab one, there must be a box full of
 take offs. NOPE. Not one. Really? Really.

 So after a bunch of fruitless hunting, I've resigned to the fact I'll
 need to find and order something. There seems to be plenty of generic
 offerings from Dimension, Origin8, etc on the bay but if I have to source
 it non-locally then I'd rather go with something more fitting of the bike
 and from a known manufacturer. And the kicker is to find one in silver. For
 consideration, I'd like to use my nitto noodle for this along with a pretty
 Rivish build.

 My original thought was finding an old Thomson to keep it US made but
 although cool, they have a decidedly industrial vibe. Especially the older
 26.0 clamp versions. Still they DO pop up in silver from time to time which
 would be nice. As far as other accessible offerings I did check into the
 Nittos and they look pretty nice as would be expected. It seems there is
 one version that is nearly a gun metal color as opposed to silver which
 looks great, although I cant seem to find the 100 length in any of them.

 So my quandary becomes...is the Nitto worth scrounging for to match the
 bar? Anyone handle it in the metal? Or do I go clunky USA Thomson if I
 can find one? Or do I throw it all out the window and use a black 31.8 bar
 stem combo I have hanging in the garage?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Velocity Rims, Again

[Steven Frederick]

I seem to recall that the rim profile was revised about the same time as
Longleaf had this run of 650b A23's made.  That may be when the parallel
brake surfaces happened.  I believe that's also when the updated the bead
hook to a more tubeless friendly design...

Steve


On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 The A23 with parallel brake tracks will very likely be my favorite rim.
  That's great news that they are parallel, even if I'm a little confused on
 what changed between the time I bought A23s a couple years ago and now.
  Maybe nothing changed and I'm crazy?  Wouldn't be the first time




 On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 2:32:23 PM UTC-8, Jan Heine wrote:

 I read this thread with interest, as I am putting the finishing touches
 on the Winter issue of *Bicycle Quarterly*. This issue includes a test
 of the 650B Velocity A23 rims. I checked the brake tracks of our samples,
 and they are parallel, as they should be. So they work as well with any
 brake type as most other rims. The aero shape is below the brake track,
 and does not affect braking in any way. It's interesting that while there
 are so many wonderful 650B tires available, few well-designed 650B rims are
 available today. Without giving too much away, the Velocity A23 appears to
 solve that problem, finally.

 Jan Heine
 Editor
 Bicycle Quarterly
 http://www.bikequarterly.com

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Re: [RBW] Velocity Rims, Again

[Steven Frederick]

I don't think the A23 is an official offering that they (Velocity) are
planning to stock.  Longleaf (and now Boulder, evidently) special ordered a
batch.  I assume there's  a minimum number needed to make that happen.

FWIW, I also have some more recent Synergy rims that are very true to size
and nicely made.  Came from the U.S. plant, though whether that's why
they're better or it's just that Velocity retooled in response to
undersized rim complaints is an open question...

Steve


On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 5:34 AM, Bruce Herbitter
bruce.herbit...@gmail.comwrote:

 My source was the Velocity USA web site so they need to update the product
 offerings :)


 On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Mike Schiller 
 mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:

 not true, The A23 is made in the 584 rim size. Longleaf has them as well
 as Boulder. Both were special orders but they are available to buy right
 now.  I have a set that Anthony built with a SP dynohub and hi flange Grand
 Bois rear hub.

 ~mike

 On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 4:32:13 PM UTC-8, Fullylugged wrote:

 The Pari Moto also does well on the Aerohead which is narrower  at 20
 wide than the Synergy and deeper. The A23 is the same width (23) as Synergy
 and a bit deeper.  The A23 is not offered in a 584 rim size though so Pari
 Motos won't go on it.


 On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have that combo (A23 rim/PariMoto tire) on my Stag and they're fine.
 Mounted up snug but not unreasonably so, run true, ride nice.  No drama or
 worries.  Steve


 On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.comwrote:

 The Hetere / Velocity thread seems to have veered toward a discussion
 of handling, so I decided to start over with a slightly different 
 question.

 I ride the Synergy rim with Pari-Moto tires.  It is true that they
 mount pretty loosely and it is hard to get them perfectly centered but I
 have gotten them good enough and have no problem with the ride or 
 security.
  However, I just noticed, in the last issue of BQ, that Velocity is now
 offering, through Boulder cycles, a new rim, the A23, which they describe
 as shallower, stronger, and shinier (!).  Has anyone on the list tried
 these rims?

 Michael


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Re: [RBW] Velocity Rims, Again

[Steven Frederick]

I have that combo (A23 rim/PariMoto tire) on my Stag and they're fine.
Mounted up snug but not unreasonably so, run true, ride nice.  No drama or
worries.  Steve


On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Hetere / Velocity thread seems to have veered toward a discussion of
 handling, so I decided to start over with a slightly different question.

 I ride the Synergy rim with Pari-Moto tires.  It is true that they mount
 pretty loosely and it is hard to get them perfectly centered but I have
 gotten them good enough and have no problem with the ride or security.
  However, I just noticed, in the last issue of BQ, that Velocity is now
 offering, through Boulder cycles, a new rim, the A23, which they describe
 as shallower, stronger, and shinier (!).  Has anyone on the list tried
 these rims?

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Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags

[Steven Frederick]

Mountain bikes are fun.  Take a look at some of SOMA's offerings.  They're
one of the least expensive brands that use frame size specific tubing in
their builds.  I really like my Juice (set up as a singlespeed) and almost
bought a B-line.

The Revelate bags are designed to be minimalist and fit mountain bikes that
don't really have any allowance for touring gear.  (no braze ons,
suspension complications, etc).  They're also designed to be streamlined
and out of the way when trail riding, utilizing the dead spaces of the
frame (main triangle, under the bars, behind the saddle, etc)

Steve.


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 I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for
 offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that
 the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming
 popular. Like this one:

 https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha

 And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and
 which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a
 transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell?

 I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at
 that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling
 rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS- Green Rambouillet, 60cm, built

[Steven Frederick]

As did my 54cm with 34mm tires...

Steve


On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:


 Another person's perspective: My 58 cm Ram seems to me to handle superbly
 with 35 mm Kojaks; not very different, to me, than with the 30 mm Parigi
 Roubaix.

 On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote:


 For example, when I rode the Ram with 700c Schwalbe Kojak 35 mm tires, it
 felt a bit strange to me, which I attribute to the higher bottom height.
 The cornering felt a bit awkward compared to my 32mm Pasela tires.


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS- Green Rambouillet, 60cm, built

[Steven Frederick]

With all due respect to those who have made this conversion and like it, I
personally feel it lowers the bottom bracket too much.  It's not
unbearable, but why live with it when there are optimized purpose-built
machines available?  The rambly is such a fine bike with 700c wheels I
couldn't bear to fiddle with it.  YMMV.

Steve


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:30 PM, BykMor byk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh you tricky tricky people. More thinking to do.

 Beautiful bike. Thank you for letting me know. I might have to message you
 off list to get some insight.

 BykMor

 On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:04:06 PM UTC-6, Leslie wrote:

 To throw a wrench into your plans

 I converted my 60 Ram to 650b:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/**
 leslie_bright/8351739256/in/**set-72157623199721925http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/8351739256/in/set-72157623199721925


 Toshi did, too


 ;)


 -L




 On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:20:23 PM UTC-4, BykMor wrote:

 Hello all,

 This was posted a couple weeks ago in another thread regarding the
 attributes of the Rambouillet vs the Sam Hillborne, but I though I'd repost
 with it's own FS subject line.

 Some photos live here: https://plus.google.com/**u/0/photos/**
 111496061371485598754/albums/**5935804564746652129https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/111496061371485598754/albums/5935804564746652129

 The bike currently lives here: Saturday Cycles in Salt Lake City, UT

 I love the bicycle, but have this insatiable (while I'm still in
 possession of the Ram) urge to try a 650b randonneur. I imagine I'll regret
 selling it down the road, but we all need a little regret to make good
 stories.

 Cheers,
 BykMor

 Saturday Cycles has a very nice build Rambouillet in 60cm. Original full
 build cost was about 4kselling complete for $2400
 FramesetRiv RamouilletBrake LeversSRAMShiftersSilver DTCrankSugino
 compact2Bottom BracketSugino outboardBrakesPauls CenterFront Derailleur
 IRD Rear DerailleurUltegraCassetteShimano HG80ChainKMC 9xStemNitto
 HandlebarsNitto Noodle- 48cmTapeDeda- greenHeadsetUltegraWheels: (Peter
 White built).--.Front HubSONdelux .--.Rear HubPhil Wood cassette
 .--.Spokes.--.Rims, 36HVelocity- SynergySaddleBrooks B17 CS Green
 SeatpostNitto CrystalTiresSchwalbe Durano PedalsTubesFront RackNitto-
 Mark'sCageArundel stainlessLamp EdeluxDecalleurBagSackville sm

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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet or San Marcos

[Steven Frederick]

Thanks, Bruce.  I had 35's on mine for a while (no fenders) and it rode
pretty sweetly.


On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Bruce Herbitter
bruce.herbit...@gmail.comwrote:

 Steve: The bike was always spec'd to carry 37s max. Here's a picture with
 Pasela 37s. (Those are now replaced by a tan skinwall set in the same size,
 and tan bar tape.)
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535930@N07/4892602448/in/set-72157612148124190


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 How much clearance do you have around those big tires?  I've been
 thinking about setting my Rambly up with fatter tires and no
 fenders-tempted by the new, suppler Pasela descendent Soma is offering.
 (it's a 38mm tire)  Got a pic of your bike?
 Thanks, Steve

 On Monday, October 14, 2013 7:12:07 PM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote:

 Took my Ram out yesterday for a club ride. The 37mm Paselas felt great.
 every time I get on the bike, I am surprised by how comfortable it is and
 how well it handles. I've had it with 28mm Contis, but always go back to
 fatter rubber.

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Mysteries of Bike Assembly

[Steven Frederick]

FWIW, SRAM makes (or made) shift cables that were a teeny bit thinner than
typical.  I think they were meant for grip shifters but I should imagine
they'd work with other types too...

Steve


On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Bobish bob...@gmail.com wrote:

 True, perhaps. But now standards have already been established. Changing
 at this point = Giant Pita.

 • Perry

 On Oct 12, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote:

 No doubt derailler cable needs to be more flexible, but I'm betting we
 have reached a point in material science where we can make a strong  
 flexible cable.

 Michael

 On Saturday, October 12, 2013 4:13:04 AM UTC-4, Perry wrote:

 Some excellent points. Regarding the cable splitters...

  In contrast the male end holds the cable with two set screws, but the
 entry hole in the brake connect is much smaller than the exit hole and, to
 my eye, just barely distinguishable from the derailler connect.

 I have davinci cable splitters and find no problem distinguishing between
 brake and derailleur easily. Not sure that the brand would make any
 difference but just throwing it out as a data point.

 Regarding 50+ year old eyesight, I'm 55. This is my main problem working
 on bikes. This and diminished dexterty of my hands/fingers and loss of
 general flexibility (to bend and hold my body in certain situations while
 making repairs). For the flexibly part, I find myself moving the bike on
 the stand more often to get the best angle at the job. Good readers that
 don't slide down my nose and this http://www.lightsandknives.**
 com/images/D/hl4.jpg http://www.lightsandknives.com/images/D/hl4.jpgare 
 the best I've been able to come up with for the eyesight thing. I
 remain open to suggestions.

 Also, as noted, I strongly suspect that a brake cable will not be be
 flexible enough to give optimal shifting performance. This may be most
 noticeable around tight bends such as under the BB cable guide to front
 derailleur. Also, could be that this is more of an issue with indexed
 shifting. I realize these standards were established prior to indexed
 shifting so maybe I'm wrong about the reason but I've done some experiments
 and the stiffness of a thick cable does appear to effect shifting IME.

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Re: [RBW] Off-pavement riding

[Steven Frederick]

Tut, nothing really exists until it's been successfully marketed,
accessorized and niche'd.  B-)

Steve


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 What are your thoughts on this sudden discovery of the pleasures of
 off-pavement riding by the gravel specific bike manufacturers. It seems to
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Re: [RBW] Re: First Century!

[Steven Frederick]

The DZ Nuts that she reviews favorably is my current choice as well.  Works
just fine for me.  (I used Assos for years but a formula change a couple of
seasons ago caused a rash reaction that put me right off the stuff.  And
the saddle for a while...)


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 2:10 AM, doc gspi...@aol.com wrote:

 Both bikes currently have sprung saddles: the tourer has a B67 Pre-aged
 and the Rando has a Champion Flyer.  Interestingly, when I used the SA, it
 is paired with an inexpensive shock absorber post where I can pre-set the
 firmness and travel.  It makes for a nice ride.

 Below is a link to Chamois Cremes from Lovely Bicycle that may prove
 helpful.  I prefer the BP because it is thicker and has more lasting
 benefit.  For me, I really notice the difference.


 http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2012/06/chamois-creams-comparative-review.html



 On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 10:52:05 PM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Howard - great to hear you were out on the WOD as well, I would have
 loved seeing you out on the RAM in particular!

 Thanks very much Erl and Eric.

 Doc - thanks for the advice, I'm going to have to look into Andiamo
 skins.  I'm still not wild about having to use 'butt paste', but I guess
 I'll have to figure something out as I look at doing these longer rides.
  Also a good point about the 'contact area' toughening up, I'm sure it's
 just like anything else.  Interesting to me that your looking at the SA for
 an adventure tourer, Im curious what you think between sprung and unsprung
 saddles in general and their applications...?  I like the sprung B67 quite
 a bit but it's an unfair comparison as I've only done ~50 miles at once as
 opposed to the century on the SA.

 Manny - I'm totally headed that direction... at least thats my thought
 right now.  I am pretty jazzed to have done the first one and want to get
 back out there as soon as I can pick another day.  Lucky for me (but not
 for my extra recreational time) I am no longer furloughed so I'll have to
 get in my rides on weekends like everyone else now!  Thanks for the
 comments on the pictures, particularly coming from you that means alot!!


 Tony

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Re: [RBW] Re-introduction

[Steven Frederick]

Heh, nicknames are funny.  My gran'pa was called Spud.  Not for any
'tater-esque qualities, but because it rhymed with his best friend's
nickname, Bud.  Here come Bud and Spud, wonder what them boys are up to?
And so on.

Here's our Bubba, named for the MSU football player.  He's the beefy fellow
on the right, backed up in his claim for a bag of cat grub by his brothers
Pete and Teddy.  His fierce gaze hides a big heart and fondness for tummy
rubs!   Sorry, just in a silly sharey mood on a friday afternoon.

Steve




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 You can't use Bubba; that's mine from my infant years. My baby sister, one
 year younger, couldn't say brother so she called me asshole -- I mean,
 bubba. This had nothing to do with my father's southern heritage where
 Bubba is considered a desirable given name by the best families (Bubba
 Fitzwilliam Makepeace Williamson IV for example.)

 My siblings still call me Bubba, but not my brother because he finds it
 embarassing.


 On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK, so I went to change my email settings and Google told me that the
 name 'William' was already taken, and that I had to change it.  So...I did.
  Nobody actually calls me William anyway.  Manny calls me Will, but he's
 the only one who does that.  Everyone else calls me Bill or Bubba.  Anyhow,
 here's my reintroduction post, so those that like me or have a longstanding
 beef with me won't be confused through the name change.

 Hi!

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA
 58cm Hilsen
 58cm Betty Foy
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