[RBW] Re: WTB: roscoe mtn mixte or similar

[rw1911]

Lucky you!  Let me know if they find a large one as well.  : )  It's 
nowhere in the budget, I would sure try.


On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 5:57:49 PM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>
> Well DP said i should call Riv because he heard that they may be doing 
> another run of mtn mixtes. While that news didn't happen to be true, they 
> did tell me that they found one hiding behind some boxes that happens to be 
> my size. So, problem solveduntil i get home and have to explain this to 
> my wife. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

[rw1911]

I wrote a big, long response sharing my personal experiences with moving to 
new tech related to bikes and cars, but in the end, I came to the same 
place...

Why not?  Disc brakes are good.  Maybe they they don't have the character 
or aesthetics of our beloved rim brakes, but they are good, even better 
when added to the already wonderful qualities of a Riv. (lugged Hunqadiscer 
for me please)



On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 3:30:33 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Now that I've conjured up my future-Riv on the "what type of bike" thread 
> (full disclosure: I also sent an email to Roman @ Riv), I guess I'll 
> campaign for it on its own thread. 
>
> I know Grant/Riv isn't big on disc brakes, but a lot of people prefer them 
> in the dirt. I'm not sure there's much of a market for a pricier 
> fully-lugged disc Riv, but a Hunqapillar-ish semi-TIGed 650B model in the 
> Clem/Roadini price range would be the bee's pajamas. Would you buy a Riv 
> dirt bike (I'm campaigning for a small "dirt bike" decal, too) with 
> mechanical discs?
>
> Joe "weak hands" Bernard
>
>

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[RBW] Jan's Yellow Rivendell

[rw1911]

Jan did very well for himself.  I submit http://www.ebay.com/itm/112439926538 
where the buyer got a very nice build for a true steal of a price. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Road, Rambouillet and a poor man's Hunqapillar

[rw1911]

These are now listed on eBay...  currently at super low prices with no 
reserve!  Please take a look and bid!


On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 8:53:49 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote:
>
> A pending move has motivated me to thin the herd a bit...  
>
> First up is a Rivendell Road with a very nice 10 speed Campy build.  The 
> 61cm Waterford built frame is Reynolds 753 and 531 fork with light metallic 
> blue paint and a cream head tube.  The build is a mix of Centaur, Record 
> and Chorus with a beautiful Specailites TA crankset.  The bars, stem and 
> seat pillar are Nitto and it rides on a new set of 30mm Grand Bois Cypress 
> tires.  $1850
>
> Link to Cyclofiend page on the Rivendell Road info and geometry:  
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/gen1/ and hopefully a photo is displayed 
> below.
>
>
> <https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/zlOKN8Ysu2Ce9YgDWR3tnJ7WQkODlwa5u-7f1KPY33tTFy1bxZEZnDm4Cdixbi22YbbNrQ=s800>
>
> Next is my 60cm Rambouillet.  It's spec'd pretty much as when originally 
> sold with a solid Riv build.  It currently rides on fast 27mm Challenge 
> Paris Roubiax tires which could be swapped for some Paselas if you prefer 
> something little wider. $1600
>
> Link to Cyclofiend page on the Rivendell Rambouillet info and geometry: 
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/index.html and hopefully a 
> photo displayed below.
>
>
> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/IvyP5QGYNbr5rV3EGSX7A-QnkGSkurGSv0XWcnXu3h0UZy3oIfR2GkUiC_G_i7jttbsrLg=s800>
>
>
> Finally, (I hope the list doesn't mind me slipping this in) is my Giant 
> Peace 29R... sort of Hunq-like?  It's a size large which is a 19" seat 
> tube. This is a very nice ride with a Reynolds 520 frame with a Shimano 
> Deore group and Easton, Tektro, WTB components.  It has been upgraded with 
> On-One Mary bars and Ergon grips.  $500  Hopefully a photo here too:
>
>
> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/baEgn4mlpbKTON8lNJ4KZO3lqk3HLTFGrVEtIcfX0f1TD3EvPLaejD261jTMCPL00n6LtQ=s800>
>
>
> All of the bikes show use, but no damage, dents or dings.  Shipping, 
> saddles and bottle cages are not included.  I will ship via Bike Flights 
> unless the buyer prefers another method.  I am located in SE PA. 
> Delivery/meet-up between Philly, Baltimore and DC may be possible schedule 
> permitting.  I'm sure I missed something so please feel free to contact me 
> directly with questions or interest.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Road, Rambouillet and a poor man's Hunqapillar

[rw1911]

Here are some additional photos of the Rivendell Road, Rambouillet and 
GT...  hopefully the link works!

Any questions or interest please reach out.  I think I have priced these 
pretty well - to sell!

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8smcCZPJrvTUGlQMmE2Ny1iMk0?usp=sharing



On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 8:53:49 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote:
>
> A pending move has motivated me to thin the herd a bit...  
>
> First up is a Rivendell Road with a very nice 10 speed Campy build.  The 
> 61cm Waterford built frame is Reynolds 753 and 531 fork with light metallic 
> blue paint and a cream head tube.  The build is a mix of Centaur, Record 
> and Chorus with a beautiful Specailites TA crankset.  The bars, stem and 
> seat pillar are Nitto and it rides on a new set of 30mm Grand Bois Cypress 
> tires.  $1850
>
> Link to Cyclofiend page on the Rivendell Road info and geometry:  
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/gen1/ and hopefully a photo is displayed 
> below.
>
>
> <https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/zlOKN8Ysu2Ce9YgDWR3tnJ7WQkODlwa5u-7f1KPY33tTFy1bxZEZnDm4Cdixbi22YbbNrQ=s800>
>
> Next is my 60cm Rambouillet.  It's spec'd pretty much as when originally 
> sold with a solid Riv build.  It currently rides on fast 27mm Challenge 
> Paris Roubiax tires which could be swapped for some Paselas if you prefer 
> something little wider. $1600
>
> Link to Cyclofiend page on the Rivendell Rambouillet info and geometry: 
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/index.html and hopefully a 
> photo displayed below.
>
>
> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/IvyP5QGYNbr5rV3EGSX7A-QnkGSkurGSv0XWcnXu3h0UZy3oIfR2GkUiC_G_i7jttbsrLg=s800>
>
>
> Finally, (I hope the list doesn't mind me slipping this in) is my Giant 
> Peace 29R... sort of Hunq-like?  It's a size large which is a 19" seat 
> tube. This is a very nice ride with a Reynolds 520 frame with a Shimano 
> Deore group and Easton, Tektro, WTB components.  It has been upgraded with 
> On-One Mary bars and Ergon grips.  $500  Hopefully a photo here too:
>
>
> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/baEgn4mlpbKTON8lNJ4KZO3lqk3HLTFGrVEtIcfX0f1TD3EvPLaejD261jTMCPL00n6LtQ=s800>
>
>
> All of the bikes show use, but no damage, dents or dings.  Shipping, 
> saddles and bottle cages are not included.  I will ship via Bike Flights 
> unless the buyer prefers another method.  I am located in SE PA. 
> Delivery/meet-up between Philly, Baltimore and DC may be possible schedule 
> permitting.  I'm sure I missed something so please feel free to contact me 
> directly with questions or interest.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Road, Rambouillet and a poor man's Hunqapillar

[rw1911]

I've had several inquiries about selling just the Road and Ram framesets. 
 I would strongly prefer to sell them as complete bikes, so keep the 
interest coming!



On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 8:53:49 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote:
>
> A pending move has motivated me to thin the herd a bit...  
>
> First up is a Rivendell Road with a very nice 10 speed Campy build.  The 
> 61cm Waterford built frame is Reynolds 753 and 531 fork with light metallic 
> blue paint and a cream head tube.  The build is a mix of Centaur, Record 
> and Chorus with a beautiful Specailites TA crankset.  The bars, stem and 
> seat pillar are Nitto and it rides on a new set of 30mm Grand Bois Cypress 
> tires.  $1850
>
> Link to Cyclofiend page on the Rivendell Road info and geometry:  
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/gen1/ and hopefully a photo is displayed 
> below.
>
>
> <https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/zlOKN8Ysu2Ce9YgDWR3tnJ7WQkODlwa5u-7f1KPY33tTFy1bxZEZnDm4Cdixbi22YbbNrQ=s800>
>
> Next is my 60cm Rambouillet.  It's spec'd pretty much as when originally 
> sold with a solid Riv build.  It currently rides on fast 27mm Challenge 
> Paris Roubiax tires which could be swapped for some Paselas if you prefer 
> something little wider. $1600
>
> Link to Cyclofiend page on the Rivendell Rambouillet info and geometry: 
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/index.html and hopefully a 
> photo displayed below.
>
>
> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/IvyP5QGYNbr5rV3EGSX7A-QnkGSkurGSv0XWcnXu3h0UZy3oIfR2GkUiC_G_i7jttbsrLg=s800>
>
>
> Finally, (I hope the list doesn't mind me slipping this in) is my Giant 
> Peace 29R... sort of Hunq-like?  It's a size large which is a 19" seat 
> tube. This is a very nice ride with a Reynolds 520 frame with a Shimano 
> Deore group and Easton, Tektro, WTB components.  It has been upgraded with 
> On-One Mary bars and Ergon grips.  $500  Hopefully a photo here too:
>
>
> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/baEgn4mlpbKTON8lNJ4KZO3lqk3HLTFGrVEtIcfX0f1TD3EvPLaejD261jTMCPL00n6LtQ=s800>
>
>
> All of the bikes show use, but no damage, dents or dings.  Shipping, 
> saddles and bottle cages are not included.  I will ship via Bike Flights 
> unless the buyer prefers another method.  I am located in SE PA. 
> Delivery/meet-up between Philly, Baltimore and DC may be possible schedule 
> permitting.  I'm sure I missed something so please feel free to contact me 
> directly with questions or interest.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Road, Rambouillet and a poor man's Hunqapillar

[rw1911]

Another try linking to pics...

Rivendell Road 
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8smcCZPJrvTMFVBTEJNQUFQRjA/view?usp=sharing>
Rivendell Rambouillet 
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8smcCZPJrvTakFKZ0RLNHV4T1k/view?usp=sharing>
GT Peace 29R 
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8smcCZPJrvTUXY0S2xkVUYxaW8/view?usp=sharing>



On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 8:53:49 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote:
>
> A pending move has motivated me to thin the herd a bit...  
>
> First up is a Rivendell Road with a very nice 10 speed Campy build.  The 
> 61cm Waterford built frame is Reynolds 753 and 531 fork with light metallic 
> blue paint and a cream head tube.  The build is a mix of Centaur, Record 
> and Chorus with a beautiful Specailites TA crankset.  The bars, stem and 
> seat pillar are Nitto and it rides on a new set of 30mm Grand Bois Cypress 
> tires.  $1850
>
> Link to Cyclofiend page on the Rivendell Road info and geometry:  
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/gen1/ and hopefully a photo is displayed 
> below.
>
>
> <https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/zlOKN8Ysu2Ce9YgDWR3tnJ7WQkODlwa5u-7f1KPY33tTFy1bxZEZnDm4Cdixbi22YbbNrQ=s800>
>
> Next is my 60cm Rambouillet.  It's spec'd pretty much as when originally 
> sold with a solid Riv build.  It currently rides on fast 27mm Challenge 
> Paris Roubiax tires which could be swapped for some Paselas if you prefer 
> something little wider. $1600
>
> Link to Cyclofiend page on the Rivendell Rambouillet info and geometry: 
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/index.html and hopefully a 
> photo displayed below.
>
>
> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/IvyP5QGYNbr5rV3EGSX7A-QnkGSkurGSv0XWcnXu3h0UZy3oIfR2GkUiC_G_i7jttbsrLg=s800>
>
>
> Finally, (I hope the list doesn't mind me slipping this in) is my Giant 
> Peace 29R... sort of Hunq-like?  It's a size large which is a 19" seat 
> tube. This is a very nice ride with a Reynolds 520 frame with a Shimano 
> Deore group and Easton, Tektro, WTB components.  It has been upgraded with 
> On-One Mary bars and Ergon grips.  $500  Hopefully a photo here too:
>
>
> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/baEgn4mlpbKTON8lNJ4KZO3lqk3HLTFGrVEtIcfX0f1TD3EvPLaejD261jTMCPL00n6LtQ=s800>
>
>
> All of the bikes show use, but no damage, dents or dings.  Shipping, 
> saddles and bottle cages are not included.  I will ship via Bike Flights 
> unless the buyer prefers another method.  I am located in SE PA. 
> Delivery/meet-up between Philly, Baltimore and DC may be possible schedule 
> permitting.  I'm sure I missed something so please feel free to contact me 
> directly with questions or interest.
>
>
>

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[RBW] FS: Rivendell Road, Rambouillet and a poor man's Hunqapillar

[rw1911]

A pending move has motivated me to thin the herd a bit...  

First up is a Rivendell Road with a very nice 10 speed Campy build.  The 
61cm Waterford built frame is Reynolds 753 and 531 fork with light metallic 
blue paint and a cream head tube.  The build is a mix of Centaur, Record 
and Chorus with a beautiful Specailites TA crankset.  The bars, stem and 
seat pillar are Nitto and it rides on a new set of 30mm Grand Bois Cypress 
tires.  $1850

Link to Cyclofiend page on the Rivendell Road info and geometry:  
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/gen1/ and hopefully a photo is displayed 
below.



Next is my 60cm Rambouillet.  It's spec'd pretty much as when originally 
sold with a solid Riv build.  It currently rides on fast 27mm Challenge 
Paris Roubiax tires which could be swapped for some Paselas if you prefer 
something little wider. $1600

Link to Cyclofiend page on the Rivendell Rambouillet info and geometry: 
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/index.html and hopefully a photo 
displayed below.




Finally, (I hope the list doesn't mind me slipping this in) is my Giant 
Peace 29R... sort of Hunq-like?  It's a size large which is a 19" seat 
tube. This is a very nice ride with a Reynolds 520 frame with a Shimano 
Deore group and Easton, Tektro, WTB components.  It has been upgraded with 
On-One Mary bars and Ergon grips.  $500  Hopefully a photo here too:




All of the bikes show use, but no damage, dents or dings.  Shipping, 
saddles and bottle cages are not included.  I will ship via Bike Flights 
unless the buyer prefers another method.  I am located in SE PA. 
Delivery/meet-up between Philly, Baltimore and DC may be possible schedule 
permitting.  I'm sure I missed something so please feel free to contact me 
directly with questions or interest.


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[RBW] Re: FS: Waterford Rivendell Road Standard/Custom

[rw1911]

Wow.  A lot of unexpected, but lively and good discussion here, but now 
it's seeming to get a bit off-topic.

Back on topic...  to address a few points that I have received privately 
and on the list related to this particular frame, or complete bike if you 
choose:

Model: I'm 99% sure this is a '96/97 Road Standard, but there is 1% of me 
that wonders if it is a Custom because it doesn't 100% meet the specs I 
have been able to find.  Probably just a variance in manufacturing though.  
As far as I can tell the paint is original, showing great care with a some 
patina. Truly excellent for a nearly 20 year old frame.

Tire clearance:  I'm currently running Grand Bois Cypress 700x30 which IMHO 
are pretty large for a 700c *road* bike.  They are a true 30mm wide unlike 
many tires that measure much smaller than stated. (My 700x35 Marathon 
Racers are not even 30)  This is the maximum size on this frame due to 
vertical clearance.  There may be other, wider tires with a lower profile 
that may fit, but the dimensions of the current tires are the max.  Someone 
commented that 30's are small for the Riv crowd. Define Riv crowd... Grant 
has slowly moved from sporty versatile bikes to overbuilt all terrain 
vehicles and commuter bikes.

Why am I selling:  As stated in my original post, I own a Rambouillet.  
It's a great bike but I find it a bit dead feeling.  I acquired the Road 
Standard in hopes that it would be the same as my Ram but more lively.  
What I found is that its much more lively, a little too much so for 
preference due to my weight.  If I could split the difference between the 
Ram and the Road, I would be Goldilocks.

Price: A new Waterford US built Rodeo (the most similar current Riv 
offering) is 2300 plus a few moths wait.  Two similar sized Rambouillets 
(Toyo built in Japan, super high quality) have recently sold for ~1050 at 
auction.  I would consider this slightly more desirable than the Rams for 
being US built and Rivendell branded. That said, I am reasonably negotiable 
for a serious buyer.  One poster commented that they thought the price was 
out of line.  That's fine and their opinion, but poor etiquette. If you're 
honestly interested, PM or email me and we can discuss something that works 
for both of us.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Best,

Ron

   

On Friday, November 20, 2015 at 8:46:53 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote:
>
> For Sale: 61cm Waterford USA built Rivendell Road Standard, maybe a 
> custom, but I have not been able to validate either way so let's call it a 
> Road Standard. I believe from 1996/97.  Built with Reynolds 753 tubing with 
> a 531 fork.  The frameset can accommodate up to a 30mm Grand Bois Cypress 
> tire. (shown) 
>
> Wonderful condition with only minor marks.  Absolutely no dents or rust.  
> The photo shows a complete bike, but I am looking to sell as a frame and 
> fork with a period Shimano headset.  The price is $1350 plus shipping.
>
> Here is some information on the Road Standard from Cyclofiend:
>
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/gen1/rivcat05_roadstandard.jpg
>
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/gen1/rivcat05_framespecs.jpg
>
> If a complete bike is desired, I can accommodate that with a very nice 
> Rivendell build.  Just let me know and we can work out some options and 
> price.  I'm not looking for any trades, but could *possibly* be enticed by 
> a Hunqapillar or Bombadil.  Please contact direct/off-list.
>
> Best,
>
> Ron
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 61 Atlantis on inland empire craigslist 1600$ complete

[rw1911]

Thanks for the PSA...  I just emailed the seller and have my fingers 
crossed!


On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 9:03:32 PM UTC-4, Richard Rios wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Looks to be a pretty good deal on a 61 Atlantis in the Socal area perhaps 
> a list member has been looking for one.  Just passing it along no 
> affiliation with seller.
>
> https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bik/5246627057.html
>
> Best,
> Richard
>
>
>

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[RBW] WTT: My 60cm Rambouillet for your 62cm Rambouillet

[rw1911]

Bump for the weekend crowd. 

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[RBW] WTT: My 60cm Rambouillet for your 62cm Rambouillet

[rw1911]

Is your Ram just a little too big?  Would you be interested in trading your 
62 for a 60?  I could do complete or just the frame set. Email me and we 
can discuss.

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[RBW] Re: 1x11 Rivendell!

[rw1911]

Wow!  Nice looking bike!  With an 89ish PBH, I'm at the top of a 54, but 
could probably make it fit.  Anyone interested in buying my Riv Road and 
Rambouillet So that I can afford this beauty?  :-)




On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 5:51:01 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Check the BLUG for a floor demo Hunqapillar with a 1x11 drivetrain.  I 
 like it!  I might go ride it!


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[RBW] Short reach brakes with the most clearance?

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I'm trying to get the largest tires possible on my Road Standard. 30s fit 
the frame, but the rear brake bridge is close (3mm) and unfortunately the 
brake caliper is hitting the tire. (Campagnolo Skeleton)  The reach to the 
rim is fine, but I need more clearance at the top.  In your experience, 
which short reach brakes have the most vertical clearance?

(It's a shame the rear bridge is so low, because there is ample room to go 
with larger tires everywhere else) 

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[RBW] Re: Derailer Cable Replacement Issues (Help a novice)

[rw1911]

Take a look here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drh4PHMQwKI and here 
http://si.shimano.com/

 

On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 6:33:31 PM UTC-5, DSat wrote:

 First attempt at replacing my rear derailer cable.  Using the same 
 handlebars, bar end shifters (riv silver), cable housings (in good 
 condition).  Have not touched any limit screws as derailer seems to be 
 lined up correctly under the smallest gear in back.  Chain on smallest cog 
 in back and on small ring up front.  Shifter all the way down when I insert 
 the cable.  I am only pulling the cable by hand when I attach it to the RD 
 (Deore 9 spd) which has a groove for the cable.  Having no luck getting it 
 to shift correctly.  When I am shifting from the smallest to larger cogs, 
 once I hit about the 3rd smallest cog it automatically shifts back down. 
  If I go further up it does the same thing.  Only when it gets in the 
 biggest rings does it stay put.  I've played with the cable adjust thing on 
 the RD as well as the one at the cable stop (where downtube shifters would 
 go) in about as many combinations as I could think of and nothing seems to 
 help.

 Any advice as to what is causing it or would fix it?  Do I need to have 
 the cable pulled tighter than by hand when attaching to the RD?  If I push 
 on the cable about a foot or two up above the bottom bracket cable guide, 
 how tight should the cable feel (should I be able to push it and hit the 
 frame or should it be tight, etc???)  About at the point to give up and 
 take it to a bike shop b/c I've spent too many hours for such a seemingly 
 simple task.  Yes, I'm a beginner, but after watching videos, and reading 
 bike repair books, and even advice from Mark at Riv, I'm still obviously 
 doing something wrong.

 Thanks In Advance


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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Hunqapillar on CL Modesto for $2,000

[rw1911]

Has anyone inquired and received a response?



On Thursday, December 18, 2014 12:43:51 AM UTC-5, Evan wrote:

 FYI. Not mine. Good price, right? 

 http://modesto.craigslist.org/bik/4808493534.html

 Modesto is a one-hour drive from Walnut Creek. I sent the seller an email 
 yesterday (Tuesday) and heard not a peep, but perhaps one of you-all could 
 inquire, get a reply, and actually buy this bike. It's likely too tall for 
 me.

 Evan E.
 SF, CA



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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Hunqapillar on CL Modesto for $2,000

[rw1911]

Huh. I really don't need another bike, but would have paid the asking.  Too 
bad they didn't reply.  I see it's gone, hopefully to someone on the list.  
Hit me up if you'd like to make a quick 150.  :-)


On Thursday, December 18, 2014 11:19:28 PM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote:

 I just saw it dropped to $1850.  Nice specs.  Wish I fit a Hunq 58 (I'm 
 more of a 54).

 John

 On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:43:51 PM UTC-8, Evan wrote:

 FYI. Not mine. Good price, right? 

 http://modesto.craigslist.org/bik/4808493534.html

 Modesto is a one-hour drive from Walnut Creek. I sent the seller an 
 email yesterday (Tuesday) and heard not a peep, but perhaps one of you-all 
 could inquire, get a reply, and actually buy this bike. It's likely too 
 tall for me.

 Evan E.
 SF, CA



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[RBW] Re: Web Special frames

[rw1911]

Are these listed under Web Specials  Frame Specials on the Riv site?  All 
I'm seeing is the same Chevoit that's been up for awhile...  maybe they're 
selling quick?


On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:20:57 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:

 There's a 52 Bomba on there now too.

 KJ


 On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:44:38 PM UTC-5, justin...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 1 Betty and 2 SimpleOnes. They promised more, including ProtoJoes on 
 Tumblr and Instagram. 


 The 58cm SimpleOne I have for sale is a deal!! 

 -J



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Re: [RBW] Re: Road Standard vs. Rambouillet?

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Thanks.  Unfortunately the frame is not in my possession and won't be 
accessible for a while.  Here's a shot of the non-extended head tube also 
showing the old style lugs...

 

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 6:42:55 PM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote:

 Your date code on the BB shell will tell you when your bike was made. 
 Level TT?  Whose dropouts?

 On Wednesday, October 22, 2014, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Thanks!  That's exactly what I was hoping for - something a little more 
 sporty and lively.

 Question regarding your 2nd post:  Do you know more about the specific 
 differences between the earlier Road and the later Road Standard?  
 Cyclofiend has info on the Road Standard, but haven't been able to find 
 anything on the earlier Road. The bike I'm looking at is 753/531 with 
 Sachs(?) lugs, but it does not have an extended head tube leading me to 
 believe it's an earlier Road.


 On Monday, October 20, 2014 8:06:13 PM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote:

 I have both bikes. The Road is a much quicker steering bike than the 
 Ram, which tracks like it's on rails. The Road is made from Reynolds 753 
 with 531 forks which gives it a noticeably livlier ride than than the Ram, 
 which is very smooth and comfortable. I love them both, but these days put 
 more time on the Road saddle than the Ram's. Both have the same Selle 
 Anatomica saddle model, btw, as does the Saluki which gets less time than 
 either.



 On Friday, October 10, 2014 10:36:38 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote:

 Bumping this hoping for some additional input...  


 On Saturday, September 20, 2014 9:03:15 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote:

 Compared to my 60cm Rambouillet, a 61cm Road Standard has 1.5cm longer 
 top tube, 1cm shorter chain stays, .5 degree steeper head tube and 
 probably 
 will only take a 32 tire.  Numbers are nice, but I'm curious if anyone 
 has 
 first hand experience with both?  Is the ride similar?  Is one sportier, 
 stiffer, or more compliant, etc. than the other?


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Re: [RBW] Re: Road Standard vs. Rambouillet?

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https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_RfnSm4FyjU/VEqZZoiTDLI/Crg/ALS_j0U18Ro/s1600/1997%2BRivendell%2BRoad%2B61cm_4.jpg


On Friday, October 24, 2014 2:23:05 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote:

 Thanks.  Unfortunately the frame is not in my possession and won't be 
 accessible for a while.  Here's a shot of the non-extended head tube also 
 showing the old style lugs...

  

 On Thursday, October 23, 2014 6:42:55 PM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote:

 Your date code on the BB shell will tell you when your bike was made. 
 Level TT?  Whose dropouts?

 On Wednesday, October 22, 2014, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks!  That's exactly what I was hoping for - something a little more 
 sporty and lively.

 Question regarding your 2nd post:  Do you know more about the specific 
 differences between the earlier Road and the later Road Standard?  
 Cyclofiend has info on the Road Standard, but haven't been able to find 
 anything on the earlier Road. The bike I'm looking at is 753/531 with 
 Sachs(?) lugs, but it does not have an extended head tube leading me to 
 believe it's an earlier Road.


 On Monday, October 20, 2014 8:06:13 PM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote:

 I have both bikes. The Road is a much quicker steering bike than the 
 Ram, which tracks like it's on rails. The Road is made from Reynolds 753 
 with 531 forks which gives it a noticeably livlier ride than than the Ram, 
 which is very smooth and comfortable. I love them both, but these days put 
 more time on the Road saddle than the Ram's. Both have the same Selle 
 Anatomica saddle model, btw, as does the Saluki which gets less time than 
 either.



 On Friday, October 10, 2014 10:36:38 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote:

 Bumping this hoping for some additional input...  


 On Saturday, September 20, 2014 9:03:15 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote:

 Compared to my 60cm Rambouillet, a 61cm Road Standard has 1.5cm 
 longer top tube, 1cm shorter chain stays, .5 degree steeper head tube 
 and 
 probably will only take a 32 tire.  Numbers are nice, but I'm curious if 
 anyone has first hand experience with both?  Is the ride similar?  Is 
 one 
 sportier, stiffer, or more compliant, etc. than the other?


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[RBW] Re: Road Standard vs. Rambouillet?

[rw1911]

Thanks!  That's exactly what I was hoping for - something a little more 
sporty and lively.

Question regarding your 2nd post:  Do you know more about the specific 
differences between the earlier Road and the later Road Standard?  
Cyclofiend has info on the Road Standard, but haven't been able to find 
anything on the earlier Road. The bike I'm looking at is 753/531 with 
Sachs(?) lugs, but it does not have an extended head tube leading me to 
believe it's an earlier Road.


On Monday, October 20, 2014 8:06:13 PM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote:

 I have both bikes. The Road is a much quicker steering bike than the Ram, 
 which tracks like it's on rails. The Road is made from Reynolds 753 with 
 531 forks which gives it a noticeably livlier ride than than the Ram, which 
 is very smooth and comfortable. I love them both, but these days put more 
 time on the Road saddle than the Ram's. Both have the same Selle Anatomica 
 saddle model, btw, as does the Saluki which gets less time than either.



 On Friday, October 10, 2014 10:36:38 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote:

 Bumping this hoping for some additional input...  


 On Saturday, September 20, 2014 9:03:15 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote:

 Compared to my 60cm Rambouillet, a 61cm Road Standard has 1.5cm longer 
 top tube, 1cm shorter chain stays, .5 degree steeper head tube and probably 
 will only take a 32 tire.  Numbers are nice, but I'm curious if anyone has 
 first hand experience with both?  Is the ride similar?  Is one sportier, 
 stiffer, or more compliant, etc. than the other?




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[RBW] Re: Road Standard vs. Rambouillet?

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Bumping this hoping for some additional input...  


On Saturday, September 20, 2014 9:03:15 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote:

 Compared to my 60cm Rambouillet, a 61cm Road Standard has 1.5cm longer top 
 tube, 1cm shorter chain stays, .5 degree steeper head tube and probably 
 will only take a 32 tire.  Numbers are nice, but I'm curious if anyone has 
 first hand experience with both?  Is the ride similar?  Is one sportier, 
 stiffer, or more compliant, etc. than the other?




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[RBW] Road Standard vs. Rambouillet?

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Compared to my 60cm Rambouillet, a 61cm Road Standard has 1.5cm longer top 
tube, 1cm shorter chain stays, .5 degree steeper head tube and probably 
will only take a 32 tire.  Numbers are nice, but I'm curious if anyone has 
first hand experience with both?  Is the ride similar?  Is one sportier, 
stiffer, or more compliant, etc. than the other?


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[RBW] under-sizing

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All of these recent Atlantis-for-sale posts have got me thinking of 
building up an old school like mountain bike.  i.e. smaller than what Riv 
would recommend for fit.  I recently sold an All-Rounder which I felt was 
too big for me on anything other than light trails.  My road bike is a 60cm 
Rambouillet and it fits well.

I'm thinking something like a 56cm Atlantis with max (26x2.35?) tires. 
200mm bullmoose bars to get the proper reach.  There would be over 20cm of 
seat post, but could it work?  Anyone done it?  Also, are the 26 wheeled 
Atlanti 650b capable?

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[RBW] Re: under-sizing

[rw1911]

First reply and a nice reality check on my silly idea.  Thanks.  That 
definitely is not aesthetically pleasing. (no offense to you or others)

I own two very capable for my type of riding non-suspension mountain bikes, 
GT Peace 9r's, one single speed and one geared.  They have been 
discontinued, but they are outstanding bikes for the money.

My thoughts were driven by the Riv aesthetic, but in maybe under-sizing is 
not such a good idea after all.

http://bikereviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/gt-peace-9r-multi-2010-mountain-bike.jpg






On Friday, September 12, 2014 11:18:17 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote:

 All of these recent Atlantis-for-sale posts have got me thinking of 
 building up an old school like mountain bike.  i.e. smaller than what Riv 
 would recommend for fit.  I recently sold an All-Rounder which I felt was 
 too big for me on anything other than light trails.  My road bike is a 60cm 
 Rambouillet and it fits well.

 I'm thinking something like a 56cm Atlantis with max (26x2.35?) tires. 
 200mm bullmoose bars to get the proper reach.  There would be over 20cm of 
 seat post, but could it work?  Anyone done it?  Also, are the 26 wheeled 
 Atlanti 650b capable?


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[RBW] Anyone running a TA Zephyr Light (compact double) crankset on their Rambouillet?

[rw1911]

If so, could you share what bottom bracket you're using? I'm finding 
conflicting information about the proper spindle taper and width.

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[RBW] WTB: Albatross cockpit parts

[rw1911]

I'm in search of the following parts used/on the cheap before going 
new/retail...

Nitto 25.4 to 26 bar shim
Silver mtn. brake levers
Cork grips

Please contact off list.  Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone missing an Atlantis?

[rw1911]

This would have more meaning if it wasn't anonymous?  How so?  Are you 
suggesting an identifying signature such as Steve or an email name like 
stevef would somehow bring more credibility or change the meaning?

Ron


On Thursday, July 3, 2014 3:16:56 PM UTC-4, stevef wrote:

 That criticism might have more meaning if it weren't anonymous...

 The power wash thing--I'm guessing bikes were dusty from being stored for 
 a long time?  Just speculation on my part.

 Steve


 On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:25 PM, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 I'm kind of surprised (and disappointing) by the immediate this person 
 is not a Rivendell (or bicycle) expert, the bikes must be stolen tone of 
 the last 18 posts...

 No relation, but maybe the seller it not 'cyclist' or 'enthusiast' that 
 would frequent (or even seek) a forum like this.  Maybe an (affluent) 
 person who bought some nice bikes long ago and Googled Rivendell to see 
 current prices are and went from there?



 On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 1:06:22 AM UTC-4, Peter M wrote:

 Its just such an odd listing, no details. Bike either power washed or 
 left out in the rain with the brooks on to take the pics. Strange setup on 
 the shifters. Maybe being homebound has just made me paranoid.

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atlantis-Rivendell-Bicycle-/321449742066?pt=LH_
 DefaultDomain_0hash=item4ad7e5cef2 
  
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[RBW] Re: Anyone missing an Atlantis?

[rw1911]

I'm kind of surprised (and disappointing) by the immediate this person is 
not a Rivendell (or bicycle) expert, the bikes must be stolen tone of the 
last 18 posts...

No relation, but maybe the seller it not 'cyclist' or 'enthusiast' that 
would frequent (or even seek) a forum like this.  Maybe an (affluent) 
person who bought some nice bikes long ago and Googled Rivendell to see 
current prices are and went from there?



On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 1:06:22 AM UTC-4, Peter M wrote:

 Its just such an odd listing, no details. Bike either power washed or left 
 out in the rain with the brooks on to take the pics. Strange setup on the 
 shifters. Maybe being homebound has just made me paranoid.


 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atlantis-Rivendell-Bicycle-/321449742066?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4ad7e5cef2
  
  

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[RBW] Re: Anyone missing an Atlantis?

[rw1911]

BTW, Peter M the Post Reply is quoting your original post.  My response 
is not directed (directly) at you, but the overall tone of this thread.

 

On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 1:06:22 AM UTC-4, Peter M wrote:

 Its just such an odd listing, no details. Bike either power washed or left 
 out in the rain with the brooks on to take the pics. Strange setup on the 
 shifters. Maybe being homebound has just made me paranoid.


 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atlantis-Rivendell-Bicycle-/321449742066?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4ad7e5cef2
  
  

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[RBW] Re: Sugino XD2 crank exploded diagram available?

[rw1911]

http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/crank-installation-and-removal-square-spindle-type


On Monday, May 26, 2014 12:59:42 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:

 So I can see how it goes together in case I need to take it off, install, 
 or tighten it up one day.
  
 Anyone know where there may be one online or elsewhere?


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[RBW] Trade? Paul Touring for Mini Moto

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I have one bikesworth of Paul Touring brakes, silver that I'd like to trade 
for Mini Motos, silver.  Please email offline if interested.

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[RBW] WTT: Nitto Technomic Deluxe 11cm for 12cm

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WTT: Nitto Technomic Deluxe 11cm for 12cm.

Trying to dial in my fit, please email me off list.


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[RBW] Re: Riv SKS longboard fenders and BG Rock n Road tires

[rw1911]

Thanks all for the confirmation, guess I'll have to settle for silver.  


On Friday, January 17, 2014 11:10:43 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote:

 Anyone running Longboards (P45) with BG RnR tires?  The tires are knobby 
 43s and the Riv site says the longboards will fit up to a 45, but I think 
 it may be a typo...  doesn't P45 designate that it's a 45mm fender?  I'm 
 thinking the SKS P50s will be required, but I'd prefer the creme longboards 
 if possible.


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[RBW] Re: Riv SKS longboard fenders and BG Rock n Road tires

[rw1911]

OK, so after some Googling, I've determined that the Longboard not 
available in a P50, cream or otherwise.  It looks like the standard 
(shorter) SKS is the only option available? Can I assume adding a long flap 
to the bottom front will net the same result?



On Friday, January 17, 2014 11:10:43 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote:

 Anyone running Longboards (P45) with BG RnR tires?  The tires are knobby 
 43s and the Riv site says the longboards will fit up to a 45, but I think 
 it may be a typo...  doesn't P45 designate that it's a 45mm fender?  I'm 
 thinking the SKS P50s will be required, but I'd prefer the creme longboards 
 if possible.


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[RBW] Riv SKS longboard fenders and BG Rock n Road tires

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Anyone running Longboards (P45) with BG RnR tires?  The tires are knobby 
43s and the Riv site says the longboards will fit up to a 45, but I think 
it may be a typo...  doesn't P45 designate that it's a 45mm fender?  I'm 
thinking the SKS P50s will be required, but I'd prefer the creme longboards 
if possible.

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[RBW] Re: Six - Count 'em! - SIX CX Bikes at RBWHQL today!

[rw1911]

Some sweet bikes there.

I've never heard of a Riv CX model, I thought the Legolas filled that 
spot?  What's the difference between the CX and Legolas?


On Monday, December 23, 2013 7:15:26 PM UTC-5, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 Finally made my way east for a holiday visit to Rivendell Bicycle Works 
 (both the showroom and the new downtown retail storefront - Rivendell Book 
 Bike  Hatchet).  After hanging out and catching up a bit, Mark and Dave 
 brought to my attention that spread around the parking lot and lounge were 
 not one but FIVE (actually SIX if you count the unbuilt frameset..) 
 Rivendell Cross bikes - 4 Legolas and two RBW CX models!

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157638961642965

 With the exception of the Rivendell Mountain, the Legolas is probably the 
 least common of the breeds.  (ok, there was that one weird outlier that 
 showed up at a NAHBS, but arguably that was the terducken of RBW), and the 
 fact that these were all within egg-toss distance of one another was pretty 
 danged impressive.

 The other impressive thing was just down in the 1600 block North Main - 
 the Rivendell Book, Bike  Hatchet store.  Found 
 gifts-I-didn't-know-I-needed for my wife and a friend (yeah, yeah... and 
 something for me too.)  Grant and Will were manning the store, helping 
 interested folks and selling stuff as we chatted. Bumped into a 
 list-member, too!  An hour passed by way too quickly.  If you haven't been 
 over there, it's worth a trip.

 - Jim / cyclofiend.com


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[RBW] WTB (or trade for) Albastache bars

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I'd like to try the Albastache bars and thought I would look for used here 
first.  If interested, I also have either original Moustache or aluminum 
Albatross 
bars to offer in trade.

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[RBW] Re: Used Bike Pricing - General - Mindless.. Dribble

[rw1911]

I feel your pain. Buying is easy, selling sucks.
 
I have a Dave Kirk Terraplane, Joe Bell paint.  An incredibly fine bike 
outfitted with Campy Centaur alloy and a nice Campy wheelset.  The last 
time I checked, the frameset alone is 3800.  It's not really an outlier 
size (59/58.5) and I can't get close to the less than 3k I was asking.  I 
would rather stare at it sitting in my office than sell for less than 
that... ~50% of cost.
 
 

On Friday, September 6, 2013 1:08:34 PM UTC-4, Kelly wrote:

 So this is subjective and my opinion and thoughts. or questioning 
 thoughts... 

 I recently attempted half heartedly to sell a couple of bikes.   Only 
 posted here and being 68cm I figured that since I was asking a fair to me 
 but not great deal on price it was a long shot on selling.   Then I see a 
 68cm Orange RAM sell for 1300 or so bucks complete.  My thought was this 
 guy is nuts... he should get that for frame alone.   Then thought.. jerk 
 makes it harder to sell mine.. :)Anyway the way I have purchased and 
 looked at things are savings and value to me.   

 So if I get  a frame and repaint it with total cost being roughly half of 
 new then I have essentially a new frame at 1/2 price.  I tend to add 500 to 
 the cost of used frame in my mine for the repaint then take half of new and 
 go from there.  shrug. 
 The build or builds I do usually range in the 1500 to 2000 on top of the 
 cost of the frame.  Sometimes less sometimes more.. (like why my RAM will 
 never sell)  

 I also look at the 68cm frames as being rather special and worth more than 
 say a 56 cm or other common frame that fits 80% of the people in the world. 
   So tall people unless you want a got no reason song song written after 
 you quit giving bikes away.   
 Note to person selling me the 68cm Atlantis .. disregard as this will be a 
 good feeling sell and giving away is OK this time only.  (if only he was 
 giving it away)

 Anyway I would usually just buy new if savings aren't that great, but 
 since 68cm frames are far and few between one must get what they can. 
  Which seems to be my mistaken belief.   That because they are rare, no 
 longer made, no other alternatives that offer the same benefits unlike 
 smaller frames... surly for example... that tall folks would covet and jump 
 at an opportunity to grab them up. 

 Back to me buying an Atlantis I don't really need since I didn't sell any 
 of my other bikes.   Does it really fit, I've convinced my self that my 
 perfect number of bikes is 3.  (4 if you add in a unicycle or is that 3.5)  

 Tour Bike = Bombadil   - Albatross - SON28 New Dyno on front - Phil on 
 back - Velocity Atlas Rims 2mm straight gage spokes.   
 Event Bike = RAM   - 48cm Noodles, SONdelux Dyno on front -Grand Bois 
 HIgh Flange Rear on Velo Orange Raid Rims with 1.8 / 1.5 double butted - 
 Rene Herse front crank triple.. sweet for me.. only bitch.. I miss my 
 kickstand. 
 Day Bike  = AHH(difference in the day bike and event bike is 
 bigger tires, fenders, racks and room for large saddle sack and camera 
 equipment... not to mention kickstand.   Ideally replace this with the 
 Atlantis.   
  Built up with New SON28 and White 
 Industries rear with Velo Orange Raid Rims.   Lots of love for this bike.. 
 been a go to for a long time.  Century rides etc.   None of my bikes have 
 taken on as many roles as the AHH!
  I've toured with it.  Built it as my 
 event bike and now have it as my semi tour day bike for photography.  The 
 700x37 Panaracer tires are really comfy.   Just is always right there to 
 fill in for any role I choose to set it up as. 

 So the Atlantis really isn't needed.. it's wanted for bigger tires the AHH 
 just can't fit.But since no one will buy what I have .. I need a role 
 for the Atlantis.   If it carries the load as well as the Bombadil I would 
 add my bombadil to the sell list to get back to 3 bikes. 
 Some combination to fit the Tour / Event / Day Bike (go to bike so to 
 speak) 

 My quickbeam rides alike a charm.  I just don't ride it enough.   I like 
 to ride my bikes not look at them or work on them all the time.   They get 
 dirty and paint gets scratched.  (thank god for ease or repainting)  

 So if I keep 5 bikes I need a unique role for each so they get ridden or 
 sell 2.  Quickbeam of course.  However I am not will to give them away.. 
 (make sense?)  (answer: not much of this post makes sense - drink or smoke 
 something and try again)

 Just thinking the Panracer 700x37 feel doggie and thinking about going 
 back to JB's ... may have to use it for a 60 miler on Saturday and see if 
 it's me or if they are just really comfy and smooth thus feel slow or if 
 they are really slow.. I'll find out while chasing friends. 

 The large saddlesack is such a dream bag.  

 Though I have a Luxos B - I like my edelux just because it completely 
 turns off when not in use.  

[RBW] 7/19 BLUG broken Sam

[rw1911]

I may be naive, but just can't see how a *stick* could do such damage.  I 
haven't had the displeasure, but imagine it going something like...  stick 
gets sucked, front wheel locks, rapid deceleration, rider over bars and the 
bike probably leaves the ground relieving the force on the fork.  Perhaps 
the extensive fork damage is the result of a post-stick, high speed impact?

http://rivbike.tumblr.com/


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[RBW] WTB: Rivendell Rambouillet

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In light of all the Rambouillets coming up for sale recently, I'd like to 
try and find one in 62cm.  Any color, frameset or complete.
 
In addition to an outright purchase, I'd also be open to trading my blue 
60cm for your 62cm.  
 
If you have (or know of) one, drop me a line and let's talk.
 
 

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell Rambouillet

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Patrick,

I can't speak for the sellers, but for me the Rambouillet is possibly the 
best all around bike I have owned.  Some have commented that it's 
overbuilt, but at 6'2 230, it might as well be a skinny tubed rando bike 
that so many rave about. I also own a lugged Dave Kirk Terraplane built 
with modern Campy which is lighter/faster and a Match built 700c Rivendell 
All-Rounder. (predecessor to the Atlantis)

The Terraplane constantly pushes me to ride faster and is great when I'm in 
that mood. I find the All-Rounder a bit sluggish for unloaded, general road 
riding. The Rambouillet splits the difference.  It's relatively fast on the 
road and more than capable on trails and fire roads.  

A Roadeo might work as I have not had a need for racks.  As Michael 
confirms, I believe the Saluki is pretty close to the Ram/Hilsen in 650. I 
have never ridden a Hillborne, but imagine it would be heavier/slower along 
the lines or the All-Rounder. (and the DTT for my size prevents me from 
trying one)

The only reason I'm looking is with an 89 PBH, I am at the top of the 
recommended range for the 60 and the bottom for the 62. Even though I like 
my bars well bellow the saddle, I think going up to a 62 might provide a 
slightly better fit.

Michael,

Thanks for reminding me of a 62 out there that's not for sale.  :-)

 





On Saturday, June 22, 2013 3:54:05 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

 All this commerce in Rambouillets! I'd be interested to learn particular 
 reasons why people are selling and why they are buying -- ie, why you want 
 to get rid of, or acquire, a Ram rather than something else.

 I am beginning to think that the Ram, like the Atlantis and the Quickbeam, 
 is a definitive Rivendell, ie, it fills a particular niche (pavement, but 
 capable of modestly wide tires and fenders and of some light, firm dirt) in 
 a particularly Rivendellian way and therefore has a unique identity. 
 Perhaps the Roadeo fits this niche, too but is it as versatile while being 
 better on pavement? I wonder if the Sam is not more of a compromise -- not 
 hugely more off road capable, not as good on pavement. I wonder if the 
 Saluki is a 650b Ram? 

 Just thinking out loud.

 Patrick Moore, enjoying his third-hand Ram in ABQ, NM

 On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 12:31 PM, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com 
 javascript:wrote:

 In light of all the Rambouillets coming up for sale recently, I'd like to 
 try and find one in 62cm.  Any color, frameset or complete.
  
 In addition to an outright purchase, I'd also be open to trading my blue 
 60cm for your 62cm.  
  
 If you have (or know of) one, drop me a line and let's talk.
  
  

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 62 cm Rambouillet

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Bump...

Still on the lookout for a 62cm Rambouillet!



On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:13:57 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote:

 Will consider frame set or complete, any color.  Please reply offline with 
 condition and price.  I also have a blue 60 cm for trade or will be for 
 sale once I find a 62.



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[RBW] WTB: 62 cm Rambouillet

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Will consider frame set or complete, any color.  Please reply offline with 
condition and price.  I also have a blue 60 cm for trade or will be for 
sale once I find a 62.

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder with Midge bar UPDATE

[rw1911]

Sweet bike.  I have the 700c version.

About the Midge bars...  Can you tell me how long of a stem you're using 
relative to the stem you used with the Mustache?  It sounds like a little 
bit longer results in a slightly closer reach?  What is your experience 
riding on the hoods?  Weird angle?  Better/worse than a standard drop bar 
hood position? 



On Friday, March 15, 2013 8:15:01 PM UTC-4, jinxed wrote:

 OK. So after some excellent and insightful RBW list input I went ahead and 
 ordered the OnOne Midge bars some Cane Creek levers, and some Kenda MTB 
 tires.

 My immediate goal was to alter the hand positions. I've been pretty 
 content with the mustache bar set up, but have come to really enjoy the 
 flats and wide sram hoods of my cross bike. My default position on the 
 m-bars was basically on the very ends with my palms hanging over the bar 
 end shifters. I thought adding the closer brake position and the flats of a 
 more traditional drop bar would be a welcome change.

 As soon as the bars came in, I was happy I made the purchase, even if they 
 dont remain on the Rivendell. Right out of the box they looked 
 interestingly comfortable. NICE wide top flat section, short reach, tight 
 and short drop. They flair but not out of control. I had heard the drop 
 section was short, and it is, but to me seemed perfect. 

 I got them installed with a vacant stem so I wouldnt have to completely 
 disassemble my M-bar set up. The stem is a little too long, but the short 
 reach on the bar still pulled the levers back vs the m-bar. I set up the 
 Midge essentially parallel with the ground with the drops pointing down. 
 The levers then become a nice flat extension of the bar and make for some 
 good hand placement real estate! The flair on the midge is restrained 
 enough to still use the tops of the lever hoods. This is what I was looking 
 for.

 I also wanted to add some knobbage to the marathonesque bonty tires I was 
 using without going full on 2.1 mtb. I am VERY happy I ran across the Kenda 
 Klimax 1.9 tires. They were exactly what I wanted. Good enough knobs to hit 
 some aggressive singletrack, but civilized on the pavement.

 So now in V.3.0 I took to the road so to speak. I did a nice meandering 
 30+ mile ride in mixed terrain to get some initial impressions. The extra 
 width and positions of the bars were very welcome in varying conditions. 
 Having the flats gave a nice upright comfortable cruising placement and 
 then the wide hoods were awesome in the dirt. I was so impressed with the 
 feel off road, I would consider these on my dedicated mtb. The drops worked 
 surprisingly well on the couple steep dirt climbs I encountered too. I had 
 quick access to the shifters without having to move away from reaching the 
 brakes. So overall I think this is a positive change.

 I will say this however...when you ride a 700c CX bike and a 29er 
 MTB...jumping on a 26 feels SO SLUGGISH. I kept checking to see if my 
 brakes were dragging! I kept wondering if I could shoehorn a 650b in there 
 and get some brakes to work! The AR is an awesome bike, but I will say that 
 my old too small Bleriot felt loads more efficient.

 Here is a beautiful shot of the garage door with the newly altered bike 
 obscuring the view.

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[RBW] Re: Looking for a 62cm Rambouillet

[rw1911]

They're 32 Paselas.  I'm a recreational rider, so I'm not forced to ride 
in the rain...  and I will admit to wiping them down with some some citrus 
cleaner when they start to get dingy. (I'm kind of a neat freak)


On Saturday, January 19, 2013 2:21:15 AM UTC-5, Ryan Ray wrote:

 How do you keep your skinwalls so CLEAN?

 Seriously, I might switch from paselas just to get nice black sidewalls.

 - Ryan



 On Friday, January 18, 2013 7:33:07 PM UTC-8, rw1911 wrote:

 Still ISO an owner of a 62cm Ram who wishes it was just a bit smaller.  
 F/F or complete, color unimportant.  FWIW, mine is blue.


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8sSi0TE7eow/UJ2O6SelHHI/Cc0/fLIj4LCYALk/s912/ram1.jpg




 On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 2:49:17 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote:

 I love my 60cm, but think it might be a tad small.  If you have (or know 
 of) a 62cm for sale, please drop me a line.



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[RBW] Re: Looking for a 62cm Rambouillet

[rw1911]

Still ISO an owner of a 62cm Ram who wishes it was just a bit smaller.  F/F 
or complete, color unimportant.  FWIW, mine is blue.

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On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 2:49:17 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote:

 I love my 60cm, but think it might be a tad small.  If you have (or know 
 of) a 62cm for sale, please drop me a line.



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Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell

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This is counter-intuitive to the assumption that higher bars equal  a 
better more comfortable position. I kept raising my bars in search of 
comfort. I usually ride on the brake hoods and after many miles found the 
drops more comfortable so I lowered the bars to 1-2cm below the saddle and 
haven't looked back.  I don't have an explanation other than if your saddle 
is in the right pace, I think it relates to torso/arm/top tube length and 
the angle in which your arms meet the bars in your preferred position. 
(Which also affects the shoulders, neck and back)

Each person has different proportions and individual preferences. If going 
up isn't working, try going down.


On Friday, January 18, 2013 1:14:56 PM UTC-5, z-man wrote:

 try bars -1cm below saddle height 

 On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Michael john1...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote: 
  My lower back has been killing me for the last month or so from riding. 
  
  I think it may be that the bars are up too high (~6cm above saddle). 
 The 
  view is great though. 
  
  I have been using the Just Ride PBH-11=Seat Height fit method, and the 
  bars as high as one likes method. 
  I have shoved the Brooks saddle all the way back Riv-style, which my 
 knees 
  love, and my hands love, as this makes my weight further back and not 
 on my 
  hands. 
  
  Now I just have to work out the low back issue and I will be good to go 
  again. 
  I am gonna try the RivReader fist full-'a-seatpost method with bars 
 1.5-2cm 
  above saddle and see if that feels better. I'm gonna keep the saddle all 
 the 
  way back for the above-mentioned reasons. 
  
  It is odd, that yes, it is the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden, 
  like riding a cushy sedan, but one part of my body always seems to 
 complain 
  no matter how I set it up. But I'll get there, I hope. I really love 
 this 
  bike. 
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 62cm Rambouillet

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Thanks Peter, I saw the Renovelo. That might be a bit tall for my 89 PBH. 
(and I just can't get on board with DTTs) 


On Friday, January 18, 2013 10:51:16 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:

 64cm Renovelo too big? 
 On Jan 18, 2013 10:33 PM, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

 Still ISO an owner of a 62cm Ram who wishes it was just a bit smaller.  
 F/F or complete, color unimportant.  FWIW, mine is blue.


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8sSi0TE7eow/UJ2O6SelHHI/Cc0/fLIj4LCYALk/s912/ram1.jpg




 On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 2:49:17 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote:

 I love my 60cm, but think it might be a tad small.  If you have (or know 
 of) a 62cm for sale, please drop me a line.

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[RBW] Looking for a 62cm Rambouillet

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I love my 60cm, but think it might be a tad small.  If you have (or know 
of) a 62cm for sale, please drop me a line.

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[RBW] ISO: Brooks B66 Saddle

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In search of a used Brooks B66.  Black preferred and might consider other 
wide/sprung/upright position Brooks.

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[RBW] Feeler: Trade 60cm Rambouillet for a 62cm

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I have a very nice 60cm blue Rambouillet that I would like to trade
for a 62 in the same condition, color unimportant.

Please contact me offline if you have a 62 that is slightly too large
and have interest in a 60.

-Ron

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[RBW] Re: How many Rivendell bicycles have you owned?

[rw1911]

2000 61cm 700c All-rounder, Match built with Joe bell paint
2005 60cm Rambouillet

I love both, but my preference leans towards the Rambouillet for the
type of riding I've been doing lately.


On Oct 30, 3:55 pm, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'll start: 1

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[RBW] Re: Retrofitting a 2002 Road Custom - Tektro brakes and fat tires

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Looks pretty tight, but a nice bike that would probably be difficult
to give up over to a few millimeters of rubber.  Look at it this
way... with only 3mm of clearance, it greatly limits the amount of
debris that could actually lock up a wheel.

How about some full bike pics?



On Oct 27, 7:06 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote:
 I should have listened to Grant - when I ordered my Road Standard in 2002
 (2003?), I figured I would always use Campagnolo sidepulls with wide 25mm
 tires.  Grant tried to get me to realize the folly of that notion, but I
 eventually got what I asked for.  The bike was built originally built
 with Campi brakes and 25mm tires.

  Now - ten years later - I of course prefer fatter tires, but my foolish
 notion that my brakes just had to be Campagnolo left inadequate clearance
 for anything bigger than a 28mm tire... so today, we pulled off the
 Campagnolo s/p's and replaced them with Tektro 538's, and squeezed in a
 pair of Schwalbe Kojaks.  GP did a great job specing the bike, 'cuz the
 Tektros fit fine, and the Kojaks (which measure out at 32 mm) just barely
 fit - - albeit with only about 3mm clearance at the front caliper.

 The bike was always nice, now it's just dreamy - nothing like fat tires to
 make a sweet bike even better.

 So thanks, Grant, I'm glad one of us had enough common sense to design a
 smart frame.

 Pics of the new brakes, with the Kojaks, here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157631867204870/

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[RBW] Re: WTT: Selle Anatomica Titanico X

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Link to photos   Selle Anatomica Titanico 
Xhttps://picasaweb.google.com/rw1911/SelleAnatomica?authuser=0authkey=Gv1sRgCL-at7Sy6PHMfQfeat=directlink



On Friday, October 19, 2012 2:33:31 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote:

 Looking to trade my brown Titanico X for a Brooks B17 Imperial or 
 possibly a B17 Special. 


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[RBW] Re: Chain length rule-of-thumb?

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I've always found the Park Tool site to be useful...

http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/chain-length-sizing



On Oct 19, 5:24 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just put a new Sachs P 48 (? Cheap, 8 speed, NIB) on the Fargo and
 found that it is fully two links shorter than the 9 sp chain it
 replaced. It will cover the Big/Big combo (46/34 -- note that the 34
 is in the #7 position) without grumbling but the cage is angled
 considerably forward. The next-to-biggest cog is a 28, I think, and it
 handles that fine.

 No chain suck on todays mixed dirt/pavement 26 mile ride, so perhaps
 the added tension is helping keep things in place?

 At any rate, given the above -- and the fact that I never use the
 46/34 anyway; I do use the 46/28 occasionally -- any reason to think
 that I ought to add more links?

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[RBW] WTT: Selle Anatomica Titanico X

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Looking to trade my brown Titanico X for a Brooks B17 Imperial or
possibly a B17 Special.

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[RBW] Re: Opinions on Nitto 177 Noodle vs. Nitto B-135/136 Randonneur?

[rw1911]

Thanks all, very informative.  After learning the differences in how
the bars are measured, I think the Randos would be much too narrow for
my taste.



On Oct 7, 5:11 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote:
 I've had both Noodles (42 cm) and 135 Rando's for many years.  Be aware
 that the width of the 135's is measured at the ends of the drops.  They
 measure 38 cm at the brake levers.  My Noodles are 42 at the levers, 43 at
 the drops.  If you like the 46 Noodles, you'll likely find the Rando's way
 too narrow.

 That said, the 135's ramps and drops are both very comfortable.  I think
 they are at their best when set high enough that the drops are viable for
 long distance cruising and short, sharp climbs.  I have the Rando's on my
 commuter, and find the narrow hoods to be fine, but I find anything over a
 42 cm drop bar to be too wide.

 If you want to try a bar with a bit more flare, consider the Salsa Cowbell.
  It only comes in 31.8 mm and black, but It has a very nice flare to the
 drops.

 Bill







 On Saturday, October 6, 2012 6:45:36 PM UTC-7, rw1911 wrote:

  Somewhat related, but without hijacking the below Drop Bar
  Suggestions thread...

  I have 46cm Noodles on two bikes.  I like them fine but wonder if
  there is something to the flaring on the Randonneur.  (hand
  position(s) and long ride comfort)

  If you stand relaxed with your eyes closed and place your arms in
  front of you, you'll notice that your hands are angled in a bit. (at
  least mine are)  With this, it would seem that the flaring of the
  Randonneur would provide a more natural hand position.  I wonder if
  this is true in real life?

  B-177 Noddle (46, 26.0) reach of 95 mm C-C and drop of 140 mm C-C
  B-135 Rando (45, 25.4)  reach of 105 mm C-C and a drop of 120 mm C-C
  B-136 Rando (44, 26.0) reach of 110 mm C-C and a drop of 125 C-C.
  While 1 cm narrower than the B-135, the specs I'm looking at show that
  the hoods would be 1 cm wider than the B-135, indicating more flare?

  Can anyone comment with their real-world experience using both (all
  three) bars?

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[RBW] Opinions on Nitto 177 Noodle vs. Nitto B-135/136 Randonneur?

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Somewhat related, but without hijacking the below Drop Bar
Suggestions thread...

I have 46cm Noodles on two bikes.  I like them fine but wonder if
there is something to the flaring on the Randonneur.  (hand
position(s) and long ride comfort)

If you stand relaxed with your eyes closed and place your arms in
front of you, you'll notice that your hands are angled in a bit. (at
least mine are)  With this, it would seem that the flaring of the
Randonneur would provide a more natural hand position.  I wonder if
this is true in real life?

B-177 Noddle (46, 26.0) reach of 95 mm C-C and drop of 140 mm C-C
B-135 Rando (45, 25.4)  reach of 105 mm C-C and a drop of 120 mm C-C
B-136 Rando (44, 26.0) reach of 110 mm C-C and a drop of 125 C-C.
While 1 cm narrower than the B-135, the specs I'm looking at show that
the hoods would be 1 cm wider than the B-135, indicating more flare?

Can anyone comment with their real-world experience using both (all
three) bars?



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[RBW] Re: Opinions on Nitto 177 Noodle vs. Nitto B-135/136 Randonneur?

[rw1911]

Thanks Patrick,

If I'm understanding the specs correctly, the 136 would provide and
additional 15mm of ramp to move around on... and it looks pretty
flat?  I'm most curious about the impact of the wider flare, when on
both on the hoods and in the drops. Examining photos, it also appears
the Rando has an upward sweep from the center/stem?



On Oct 6, 10:16 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 The B177 sounds just like the Nitto 185 with 95 mm of reach and 140 mm of
 drop. I used to like the 185s and rode them for years (albeit in 42 cm
 size); their great defect was the short ramp, especially if you -- as you
 know you should -- keep the ends parallel to Mother Earth. But now find the
 longer reach and shallower drop (115/125) Maes Parallels with longer ramps
 noticeably more comfortable.

 Velo Orange sells a bar with the same reach and drop, tho' not as nice as
 the Super Nitto finish of the Grand Bois Parallels.









 On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 7:45 PM, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com wrote:
  Somewhat related, but without hijacking the below Drop Bar
  Suggestions thread...

  I have 46cm Noodles on two bikes.  I like them fine but wonder if
  there is something to the flaring on the Randonneur.  (hand
  position(s) and long ride comfort)

  If you stand relaxed with your eyes closed and place your arms in
  front of you, you'll notice that your hands are angled in a bit. (at
  least mine are)  With this, it would seem that the flaring of the
  Randonneur would provide a more natural hand position.  I wonder if
  this is true in real life?

  B-177 Noddle (46, 26.0) reach of 95 mm C-C and drop of 140 mm C-C
  B-135 Rando (45, 25.4)  reach of 105 mm C-C and a drop of 120 mm C-C
  B-136 Rando (44, 26.0) reach of 110 mm C-C and a drop of 125 C-C.
  While 1 cm narrower than the B-135, the specs I'm looking at show that
  the hoods would be 1 cm wider than the B-135, indicating more flare?

  Can anyone comment with their real-world experience using both (all
  three) bars?

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[RBW] Re: Your order has shipped...(62cm Hunq)

[rw1911]

Sweet bike, I like the new green!

I'm between a 54 and 58 but think the 58 would be a better fit.  If I
can come to terms with the diag-tube, I may own a Hunq someday.

Enjoy!



On Oct 6, 10:59 pm, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
  Robert:

  TOO LATE IN THE DAY!  Those pictures were taken with plenty of
  perfectly good daylight.  How could you not at least open the box?
  That bike would have been all over my patio before the UPS guy had
  started his engine.  Getting a new Riv is more exiting than Santa
  Claus showing up.

 Believe it or not, we don't get much twilight here. Within 30 minutes of
 those photos it was getting near dark. I would have needed the light to
 make all the images I wanted of unboxing, building, first ride, and so on.
 And, knowing myself well enough, I left things in the box so no shiny bits
 rolled away.

 Indeed though, no shiny bits could get away. In the years since I got my
 Quickbeam the packing skills at RBW haven't lessened a bit. The bike was
 superbly packedvery, very safe and stable.

 After morning errands I got to work on unpacking and within a couple of
 hours (I'm slow and made images) I had a beautiful, and I mean beautiful
 Hunq put together.

 I should mention that because I had the bike built for me, all I really had
 to do was hook up the brakes, put in the stem, tighten the handlebars in a
 reasonable position (amazingly I got it really comfortable on the first
 try), put on the front fender and rack, add a saddle (Brooks B-17 Select),
 screw on some pedals (the new Gripsters - great pedals really), and ride
 off.

 Wow. Because I've got a couple of other bikes around I was actually able to
 dial in the saddle after about 3 blocks. Then it was off for an around the
 city waterfront ride. True it's all flat, but it's my city and I'll be
 riding these roads a lot



  OK, so you got it late on Friday  it's now afternoon there in Hawai'i
  so I expect you're out riding your new bike.  Your initial ride report
  is due to be posted yet today...remember: you are being watched!

 So yes, it's afternoon and I'm back.

 I hate to say this but when I first got my Quickbeam I thought it was the
 best bike I'd ever ridden. Up to that point I was right. The Hunq is even
 better (or maybe it's because it's new, eh?).

 It really is a superb bike though. While I definitely want some 50mm tires
 soon, the 38mm's were super on city streets with plenty of air to keep me
 comfy.

 The Alba bars were a gamble for me. I'd ridden a Hunq at RBW back in May
 and hadn't completely cared for them, but since they were part of the build
 kit I figured I could swap later.

 Nope, I love 'em. Wow. Yes, this bike is comfortable.

 I stopped to make some images here and there...a wee bit of bike porn...and
 continued around the city. I also stopped for an iced coffee because isn't
 that really what a weekend is about? Riding and leisure. You just can't do
 better.

 I did manage to find a few patches of rougher stuff to ride on, a gravel
 filled alley, a cut across a park on a crushed coral path, a bit of grass,
 and the Hunq handled it all very nicely. The Alba bars gave me lots of
 control and the geometry of it all kept me comfortable. More wow.

 I really like the bar end shifters as I mostly forget they are there and
 don't shift too much. :-)

 Then it was home as I've got to clean up and go out with a friend for
 dinner and birthday celebration. All in all I think put in about 10 miles
 on my first ride and a good one it was.



  We really are a bunch of dorks, getting excited about someone else's
  new bike, looking a pix of the UPS truck arriving.  Maybe I should
  think some more about that orange Ram in the Bay Area...

 I've got much better images now, though I have to admit that the smiling
 UPS guy really brightened my day yesterday. :-)

 The photos are uploading right now to my Hunq set on Flickr. I don't have
 time to label them all right now, but I'll get around to that later
 tonight. In the meantime, enjoy...

 Slideshow

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/sets/72157631702162963/show/

 or 'no show'

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/sets/72157631702162963/

 Tomorrow I think I can get in a nice long ride and try her out on some
 hills to see how I like gears you can change while riding. What a concept!

 Aloha,

 Bob











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  On Oct 5, 9:47 pm, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hunqementation Chapter 1.

   The Arrival...

  http://www.flickr.com//photos/mgps-bob/sets/72157631702162963/show/

   Sadly it was too late the day to do anything useful, but my Hunq has
   arrived. I even managed not to open the box...saving that for tomorrow. I
   did, however, made some images of the UPS truck's arrival. A happy UPS
  guy
   too...must have know what he had in the box. :-)

   The pictures prove something got delivered. ;-)

   Bet you can guess 

[RBW] Re: Opinions on Nitto 177 Noodle vs. Nitto B-135/136 Randonneur?

[rw1911]

Good to know.  So there is not a significant difference in wrist
angle... and comfort?


On Oct 6, 11:22 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
wrote:
 I've ridden the 135 and the 177 extensively. I like them both. I doubt you'd 
 gain anything from switching, but it might be fun anyway.

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[RBW] Re: Dawn of the Hunqapillar

[rw1911]

Nice!  love the idea of a Hunqapillar, but I'm between sizes (54-58)
and not sure I could do the diagonal tube of the 58.  Comparison to
your Hillborne?




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 While I'm still smarting from the loss of my beloved Hillborne (long story,
 things happen, ends well), I'm more than a little consoled by the addition
 of a 54cm Hunqapillar in my life. It's built up from the parts from my Sam;
 virtually everything moved right over, right down to the Honjos (an aside:
 fenders took longer than the rest of the build all together and the front
 fender line is still a work in progress). I rode out to Golden Gardens to
 snap some pix of it's virginal purity, which if you're interested you can
 find here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/45524179@N08/sets/72157631600410033/

 It's a lovely riding bicycle.

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[RBW] Re: Hilsen = All-Rounder?

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My current wheels are Velocity Synergy rims with Shimano XT hubs and
db spokes.  For tires I use either Pasela TGs or Marathon Racers. (I
can't decide which prefer)  Both are 700x35.  I imagine some zippy-
ness could be found maybe with lighter 700x28 tires.

What would be considered a zippy wheelset?  Ultegra or Dura Ace hubs
and Mavic Open Pros or something more exotic?  While widely available,
the problem I have is the All-rounders are spaced for a 135mm MTB bike
hub.  I suppose I could crank down the skewer and use a standard 130mm
road hub, but I don't know if that would be OK or a good long term
solution.




On Sep 16, 7:26 am, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote:
 Have you considered getting a zippy wheel set?  A lighter wheel set with
 higher gearing and event tires - maybe even tubular if you want - can make
 a big difference.







 On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:19:30 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote:

  I very much enjoy my original 700c All-Rounder, but sometimes wish for
  something a little more zippy/sporty.  Looking at the Hilsen (country
  bike), it appears to be a newer version of the All-Rounder.  I haven't
  found information on the tubing spec, but looking at the geometry
  specs, they're pretty darn close.

  Other than the brakes, is the Hilsen the newer equivalent of the
  original All-Rounder?  Other than the Roadeo, should I be looking for
  a used Ram or... ?

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[RBW] Hilsen = All-Rounder?

[rw1911]

I very much enjoy my original 700c All-Rounder, but sometimes wish for
something a little more zippy/sporty.  Looking at the Hilsen (country
bike), it appears to be a newer version of the All-Rounder.  I haven't
found information on the tubing spec, but looking at the geometry
specs, they're pretty darn close.

Other than the brakes, is the Hilsen the newer equivalent of the
original All-Rounder?  Other than the Roadeo, should I be looking for
a used Ram or... ?


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[RBW] WTT: Paul Neo-Retro for Paul Touring

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I have a single silver Paul Neo-Retro canti that I would like to trade
for a silver Paul Touring.  Please email off-list if you have one you
would like to trade.

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[RBW] Wider Mustache?

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I like my Mustache bars, but sometimes wish they were a bit wider.
Any options?  Can the Alba be setup Mustache style?

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[RBW] Re: Mary Bar/Technomic stem incompatible?

[rw1911]

I don't know where the OP purchased his, but the bars are on sale for
~20 on the US site.  I just put one (31.8) on my 29er SS and really
like it!



On Jun 19, 8:35 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 did you get the bars from on-one website across the pond?

 ~mike







 On Sunday, June 17, 2012 10:03:30 AM UTC-7, velomann wrote:

  I'm building up a Lugged 93 Trek 750 hybrid as an all-purpose
  garvel/pavement bike. Had a brilliant idea to use the shiny silver On-One
  Mary bar (on sale) with the used 25.4 Technomic stem I just picked up. So
  excited! Until I tried to thread the bend near the clamp. Not a tight bend,
  but the bar bulges right after the last bend. No go. Didn't try forcing it.
  and haven't tried spreading the stem at all. Thought I'd seek advice first.
  Anyone else tried this combo (or a Mary bar with a quill stem) and got it
  to work? Any tricks (I mean other than telling me I need a stem with a
  faceplate)? Other alternative might be to go with same stem and Moustache
  bar, but I really want to give the Mary a try first.

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[RBW] Issue mounting Marathon Racers

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I don't think it's me, maybe it is, but these are the most difficult
tires I have ever dealt with.  Normally when I think of tires being
difficult to mount, they're really tight and require multiple levers
and a lot of force to get on.

My problem is the opposite.  These things are so loose that it's a 15
minute procedure of getting the tire on the rim, a little air, check/
seat the bead, a little more air, repeat, repeat.  So the tire is now
mounted and the bead looks evenly seated all around.  I cruise down
the driveway and back up through the yard.  Bang! the tire blows.

It's obvious the bead popped out and pinched the tube.  I think OK,
I'll just throw in a new tube.  Checking, airing, checking, airing.
The bead let's go at about 50 PSI and I just lost another tube, my
last spare and the local shops are closed tomorrow.  I'm more than a
bit agitated/bummed.

Apologies for the long rant to get to this point... Has anyone else
experienced such difficulties with these tires?  35c Marathon Racer's
on Velocity Synergy rims.

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[RBW] Re: My new Rivendell...

[rw1911]

Very cool.  I'd love to have one, but I'm respecting their new
customers only, please request.



On May 19, 4:30 pm, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...lug. They were giving away promotional lugs. Here is the one I got.
 So pretty:

 [IMG]http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp66/lungimsam/Bicycle/
 lugrsidealso.jpg[/IMG]

 [IMG]http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp66/lungimsam/Bicycle/
 lugriderpointofview.jpg[/IMG]

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[RBW] Re: Thank you

[rw1911]

This is totally awesome, enjoy in good health!

(I have to laugh about the voicemail comment.  My wife is a teacher
and it's fruitless to leave her a VM if I expect any response)



On May 20, 12:57 am, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com
wrote:
 Nothing beats New Bike Day. Rode the new bike to work. It was funny because
 my student's seem more excited about the bike then I am.  LIke any new
 shiny thing with wheels, all the kids wanted to ride it. I'm not good at
 describing the feel of a new steel bike so I'll quote some of the things
 the kids say.  So smooth,  The pedals are smart,  This bike feels so
 right!  was the general conversation after students took turns riding it
 around the school. So since school got out early I took the long way home.
 Decided to see if there was a way to bike from Ed Levin to Mission Peak.
 There is but not an easy way. The maiden bike voyage turned into a maiden
 hike the bike uphills.  But the new bike got dirty so all was well.

 It's kind of hard to describe how guilt ridden I felt having to receive
 such a nice gift. Call it my stubbornness to accept help or my pride of
 having to try and deal with my mistakes on my own. Having gotten to talk to
 a bunch of people on the forum in person they really helped me understand
 that it's okay to accept other people's help. Grant put in better words
 Everybody who helps you will be getting more out of it than they're
 giving, so you can legitimately think of this as a gift the givers are
 giving to themselves. It's interesting to note that despite how amazing
 this gesture is that the  lovely folks at Rivendell HQ didn't make a huge
 deal about it. Which made me feel a lot more comfortable about accepting
 the bike, since it was done a month ago. (alas I don't check my voice
 messages) It was funny because of how awkward I felt during the last few
 months about the bike I didn't really have the courage to ask about the
 progress or if it was even done. I figured when the bike was ready and the
 time was right it would be done.
 This bike is more meaningful to me knowing that so many people were willing
 to contribute in so many ways. It's hard to even express a really thank you
 over a simple forum, so I'll just do it through pictures.

 Because pictures proved how grateful I am.http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzqBUdq

 -Manny Now to get it dirty Acosta

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[RBW] WTB: Brooks saddle

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I'm looking for something affordable to put on my single speed beach
bike.  A black standard B17 would be my preference, but what do you
have?

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Re: FS: Brooks Swift saddle (was Re: [RBW] WTB: Brooks saddle)

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Hi Toshi,

I *think* I replied directly, but just in case...

I posted the WTB: Brooks saddle and would like to purchase yours.
Unfortunately it looks like I should not have stepped away from the
computer?  Please LMK if it is available.

Best,

Ron


On May 16, 1:07 pm, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a black chrome swift with ~50 miles riding, so it's basically
 new. I paid ~$140 but will part with it for $70 shipped to anyone
 interested.

 Toshi







 On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:43 AM, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm looking for something affordable to put on my single speed beach
  bike.  A black standard B17 would be my preference, but what do you
  have?

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[RBW] Re: Wide profile canti brake recs

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As others have mentioned, squeal is something that can normally be
adjusted.  Shuddering (IME) is a result of a powerful brake, cable
stop and fork flex.  My brakes are silent, but I do experience shudder
under hard braking. (I can actually see the cable stop move and the
front fork flex rearward)



On May 5, 2:13 pm, Tom Harrop twhar...@gmail.com wrote:
 So what's the thinking on the cause of brake chatter? I have CR720s with
 Kool Stop dual compound my 68 cm Bombadil and I get some pretty ferocious
 chatter, particularly when it's wet. When the front brake doesn't chatter,
 it squeals!

 Is it because of the super-long fork blades? Or have I done something wrong
 setting them up?

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[RBW] Re: Wide profile canti brake recs

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I went from Shimano BR-R550's (which worked fine but had a fairly low,
fixed straddle cable) to Paul Neo-Retro front / Touring rear.  the
Pauls are a thing of beauty if you appreciate mechanical / machining
type stuff and the straddle wire clears my Nitto Mini, but I find them
somewhat finicky to dial in.  Maybe it's my amateur mechanic skills,
but it's very easy to lockup and skid the rear and the front is so
powerful that it flexes the headset hanger and fork to the point that
the front wheel shudders under hard braking.


On May 3, 10:41 am, Norman Bone bone1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I need to raise the cable hanger on my front brake to accommodate the diving 
 board for a Mark's Rack. The current low profile brakes are marginal (at 
 best) with the hanger closer to the tire and I anticipate that they will not 
 cut the mustard if I raise the hanger another inch or so. I'm using the 
 Tiagra aero levers that Riv sells.

 That being said, I'd like to install a wide profile canti on the front that 
 would work well with my existing levers. What wide profile brake have you had 
 a good experience with on your Riv with an aero lever? How high are you 
 running the hanger from the tire?

 Thanks-

 Norm in PDX

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[RBW] Re: Today's Blug Post

[rw1911]

Interesting that the crank is no cooperating as it looks like an Ultra-
torque which has a split spindle.  They should be able to just remove
the 10mm bolt and wiggle the two halves apart?



On Feb 28, 8:02 pm, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have no position on Riv's business practices here, but on the subject of
 today's Blug post, I'd sure like to see a full photo of the
 Molteni-orange-ish bike with the Campy crank. Is it a custom? A Roadeo? And
 why does the customer want it off? Seems like a nifty looking crank to me.

 Aaron







 On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:06:44 PM UTC-8, islaysteve wrote:

  I know that Rivendell wouldn't be RBW and Grant wouldn't be Grant without
  weird nuts, erasers, posters and notecards for sale on the site.  But I
  can't help but wonder if the year-end messages wouldn't be a bit happier
  without having to carry some of this non-bicycle or marginally-bicycle
  stuff.  And I wasn't even going to mention bamboo boxes.  Rivendell Bicycle
  Works isn't Velo Orange and I imagine that most here don't want it to be,
  whether we like VO's offerings or not.  I get this.  But still.  Maybe I've
  been away from California for too long.  Planning a visit soon.  Open for
  discussion (RBW, that is).  Cheers, Steve

 On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:06:44 PM UTC-8, islaysteve wrote:

  I know that Rivendell wouldn't be RBW and Grant wouldn't be Grant without
  weird nuts, erasers, posters and notecards for sale on the site.  But I
  can't help but wonder if the year-end messages wouldn't be a bit happier
  without having to carry some of this non-bicycle or marginally-bicycle
  stuff.  And I wasn't even going to mention bamboo boxes.  Rivendell Bicycle
  Works isn't Velo Orange and I imagine that most here don't want it to be,
  whether we like VO's offerings or not.  I get this.  But still.  Maybe I've
  been away from California for too long.  Planning a visit soon.  Open for
  discussion (RBW, that is).  Cheers, Steve

 On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:06:44 PM UTC-8, islaysteve wrote:

  I know that Rivendell wouldn't be RBW and Grant wouldn't be Grant without
  weird nuts, erasers, posters and notecards for sale on the site.  But I
  can't help but wonder if the year-end messages wouldn't be a bit happier
  without having to carry some of this non-bicycle or marginally-bicycle
  stuff.  And I wasn't even going to mention bamboo boxes.  Rivendell Bicycle
  Works isn't Velo Orange and I imagine that most here don't want it to be,
  whether we like VO's offerings or not.  I get this.  But still.  Maybe I've
  been away from California for too long.  Planning a visit soon.  Open for
  discussion (RBW, that is).  Cheers, Steve

 On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:06:44 PM UTC-8, islaysteve wrote:

  I know that Rivendell wouldn't be RBW and Grant wouldn't be Grant without
  weird nuts, erasers, posters and notecards for sale on the site.  But I
  can't help but wonder if the year-end messages wouldn't be a bit happier
  without having to carry some of this non-bicycle or marginally-bicycle
  stuff.  And I wasn't even going to mention bamboo boxes.  Rivendell Bicycle
  Works isn't Velo Orange and I imagine that most here don't want it to be,
  whether we like VO's offerings or not.  I get this.  But still.  Maybe I've
  been away from California for too long.  Planning a visit soon.  Open for
  discussion (RBW, that is).  Cheers, Steve

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[RBW] Re: Last of its kind.

[rw1911]

Looks great!  Interesting cable routing...  I never considered that
this would need to be addressed should I ever want to add a basket to
my front rack.



On Jan 28, 7:34 pm, David T. davidtren...@hotmail.com wrote:
 This is my new 66 cm Atlantis, I got the frame from Mountain Sports in
 Virginia. They were nice people to deal with, thanks Steve.

 I have been gradually building it up, still waiting for the proper tires to
 arrive from Rivendell.

 Also pictures of my Quickbeam and Surly Troll. My cup runneth over.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/51518228@N06/sets/72157629073631297/with...

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Technomic Deluxe 9cm 26.0

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Please email with condition and price.  Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Wow you go really fast on that thing

[rw1911]

Wow.  A lot of anger in the 925.


On Sep 30, 5:28 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Robert F. Harrison 
 rfharri...@gmail.comwrote:

  There was one fellow I met while I headed out on a camping trip who said to
  his friends derisively, oh, that's just an expensive copy of an old frame.
  Then he walked away not giving it a second glance.

 I wonder if it's the same guy who posted this (censored) comment in response
 to my flickr photo:

 Hey I saw a bike like that on craigslist. It was a little lacking in [*slur*]
 and was missing a zero on the end of the price, but overall maybe a nice
 adjunct if you're looking to buy another worthless piece of [*profane*]?
 You'll still get to go through that same process of explaining that you
 really wanted to get a CrMo frame (not because you're a legit, fit rider
 who's riding a heavy frame for monetary or safety reasons, mind you...just
 because $2000 seemed reasonable for not having to buy an authentic looking
 bike second hand).

 I just got linked to this page from the Rivendell site because I was
 horrified that someone (locally! In the 925!) makes money from selling bikes
 that would raise eyebrows if someone was trying to sell it second-hand for
 over $300. I'm never given to vandalism, but I would definitely wait by your
 bike if I ever saw it until I could castigate you for willfully wasting
 money on nothing. It's not a classic. It's not a whit more functional or
 safe than the sub-$300 ex-touring steel bikes on Craigslist. It's not even
 the good kind of ostentatious, like a Ferrari that can get you laid. It's
 just aggressively meaningless. If I found that you weren't rich enough to go
 to the atm, withdraw 2K, and light it on fire, I think I would call you
 pretentious. If you were, but weren't so darkly nihilistic so as to taunt
 the good folk of your community collecting to save the stick figures in
 Africa by repeatedly incinerating potential aid dollars in front of them,
 I'd call you an idiot.

 What if that's just you though? Respekt, you're a cold mofo and we should go
 ride and do some recreational arson at this orphanage I know.

 Wow... somebody's got issues.  I wonder if his car costs more than a few
 thousand... you know, you can buy an old 50 MPG Geo for something like
 $1000...  I responded with something like Thanks for the compliments, glad
 you liked my bike.  :-)

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[RBW] Re: Was gonna buy a Riv but didnt...

[rw1911]

Apples and oranges.

A Kirk frameset will cost as much or more than a complete production
Rivendell.

That said - if someone is looking to spend that kind of money, a
custom Riv just becomes another option among the many custom builders.

As far as admissions, I bought my All-Rounder after my Kirk
Terraplane.  The Kirk is an extremely nice bike, but lately I prefer
the AR simply because of how it's set up and the type of riding I've
been doing.


On Jul 21, 10:42 pm, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I read/heard/ imagined recently that lots of people who buy Rivendells then
 go on to buy a custom/semi-custom bike from another company-- in most cases
 something that is comparable to an existing Rivendell model. For instance
 buying a Kirk instead of a Rodeo or Custom. I was curious if there is any
 truth to this, if anyone out there will admit to it, and what the reasons
 are. Something to the tune of I got a ___ instead of a Rivendell
 __ because ___.

 I got a Terraferma single speed instead of a Rivendell SimpleOne because I
 got tired of waiting.

 Cheers!
 cm

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[RBW] Re: Stem sizing for Albatross and Moustache bars

[rw1911]

Thanks all for the feedback.  It sounds like I would need a very short
stem 6-7cm for the M-bars and probably a 12 for the A-bars...

All this talk of instability at speed has me now questioning the
Albatross, which I was favoring.  Perhaps I should consider a
straight(ish) bar or maybe something with a little more flexibility
like the Jitensha bar (which appears to be an abbreviated, somewhat
cross between the two)?

FWIW, I have the Noodles just about level with the saddle.


Thoughts?




On Jul 2, 12:23 pm, clyde canter clyde.can...@gmail.com wrote:
 Shorter for the 'stach and longer for the 'tross, definately. I've tried
 both and the only setup that felt good to me was the 'tach bars on a bike
 that was too small, ie short top tube and an upjutting  (40 deg) stem.
 Problem there is getting them high enough. The tross bars came close on my
 Hillborne, but there's something about those bars at speed that's
 disconcerting for me.  I'll borrow the term squirrley. That's a good
 descriptor. The at speed part got me to thinking the albatross might be a
 good bar for a fixed application.  Hitting my top cadence in their upright
 position was interesting to say the least. Also, I almost crashed when
 reaching all the way down there for a bottle. All this has me fondly
 remembering my more flexible lower back of years past.  I now have my 48
 noodles a whopping 2 1/2 to 3 inches above my saddle and that is my mostest
 favoritest set up for everything. I should note that the only bikes I have
 that will allow this are my Rivendells.  Thanks Grant.
  High bars and fluffy tires,
  Clyde







 On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 1:33 AM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote:
  I have used a 12cm for Albatross bars and a 9cm with a 105 degree rise
  for noodles on the same bike with a 58cm top tube. I have mustache
  bars with a 10cm dirtdrop but on a bike with a 57 cm top tube. My
  Simple One has a 9cm seven shaped nitto stem all the way up to the
  mark with  Nitto Rando bars and a 58cm top tube. I purposely mounted
  my albatross bars upside down making the grips level with the saddle
  but it still put me too upright and the front end felt squirrely so I
  went back to noodles. If my memory is correct a 3-4 cm longer is good
  for Albatross bars and maybe a 2-3 cm shorter for mustache's.
  although you want them way taller so the curve is above saddle height
  and the normal grip at least level with the saddle.

  On Jul 1, 7:39 pm, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com wrote:
   I currently have Noodles with a 110 Nitto stem which ideally should be
   a 100 or maybe even a 90 (tops are great, hoods are just a bit far)

   Anyway, I've been thinking about trying either the Albatross or
   Moutstache bars.  Can you share your experience in regards to stem
   length for these bars relative to what you use for a drop bar like the
   Noddle?

   I'm thinking I would use a slightly longer stem for the Albatross and
   a slightly shorter for the Moustache?

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[RBW] Re: Touch Up Paint Suggestion

[rw1911]

I like to use clear paint or nail polish as it provides protection
from corrosion and saves me from the embarrassment of a poor color
match.


On Jul 1, 8:41 pm, steven steven.blond...@gmail.com wrote:
 I try to find paint that does not match. I like the scarred look.

 On Jul 1, 11:12 am, rlc5925 rlc5...@gmail.com wrote:







  Looking for suggestions for touch up paint in the (white/cream) lug
  area. Thanks

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[RBW] Stem sizing for Albatross and Moustache bars

[rw1911]

I currently have Noodles with a 110 Nitto stem which ideally should be
a 100 or maybe even a 90 (tops are great, hoods are just a bit far)

Anyway, I've been thinking about trying either the Albatross or
Moutstache bars.  Can you share your experience in regards to stem
length for these bars relative to what you use for a drop bar like the
Noddle?

I'm thinking I would use a slightly longer stem for the Albatross and
a slightly shorter for the Moustache?

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[RBW] Re: Repair Manual

[rw1911]

As a free resource, I've always found the Park Tool site to be very
helpful...

http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help




On May 23, 9:52 pm, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote:
 After a year of subscribing to this group I've decided to address some
 of my inadequacies head on and do some, if not most of my own
 maintenance.  I'm not necessarily handy, but clever enough, willing to
 buy the tools, and I figure if I can build a fly rod or tie a classic
 Atlantic salmon fly (which I can do, and do well), I can adjust a
 hub.  Besides, you all inspire me.  Thank you.

 That said, I do need a good reference manual.  I'm interested to see
 if there's a consensus amongst the tribe as to a solid reference for
 maintaining my Sam (nom de guerre: Ramble-Rounder).

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[RBW] Re: Small Saddle Bag- Nigel Smythe Keven's or Sackville Saddlesack XS?

[rw1911]

My Saddlesack XS just arrived Monday and I can tell you it's nice!

There has been a design change since the photos on the Riv site were
taken... the flap of the SS-XS no longer has the brass-twist closures.
It now has a double-ended zipper and a light loop on the flap just
like the NS. (visualize a green canvas NS with a leather flap and
reflective strip)  Functionally, I think they're now pretty much
identical and suppose your choice will come down to material
preference.





On Apr 13, 10:31 pm, Geoff mocha...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Okay, so it looks like the shipment of frames, including my 54
 Hunqapillar, will be departing from Taiwan sometime this week...and
 should arrive in 4 weeks.  I'm stoked!  =)

 I've been thinking about ordering a small saddle bag, and like both
 the tweed Nigel Smythe Keven's bag as well as the Sackville Saddlesack
 XS(in green).  There's some uncertainty as to when and if the tweed
 bags will actually arrive, and there will be some design changes...but
 I'll still consider it as one of my options.

 Can anyone here who has owned either(or both) share their thoughts and
 comments on these bags?  The tweed Nigel Smythe Keven's costs $90 and
 is made in England.  The Sackville Saddlesack XS costs $55 and is made
 in the USA.  So, there is a cost difference.  But, I'm willing to
 spend the extra dough if the Nigel Smythe tweed bag is worth the
 difference.

 Thanks, ahead of time, for any help that you could offer.  Much
 appreciated!

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[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

[rw1911]

I wouldn't read too much in to it. Regardless of the circumstances at
the time of the post, the message (or my interpretation is) that while
perhaps not the sexiest and definitely not carbon, we make some well
thought out and good sh*t for those who care about these things. (most
if not all on this list)



On Apr 7, 12:01 am, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Well G you seem to be one cool dude regardless so my hat goes off to
 you..when are the Simple Ones going to show on the website ?

 On Apr 6, 12:49 pm, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote:

  Well, the only thing that should've thrown anybody was the last line
  or two...the rest...easy. Still, it was written at 3am.
  The take-home content is Normal Jean.
  G

  On Apr 6, 12:18 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

   An unusually incoherent post from Grant, 
   here:http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/346

   I know the feeling: sleep deprivation (add a shot or two of cheap
   Bourbon to enlarge the effect).

   But: worth reading: the message is good if not always clear: priddy is
   good but don't get carried away.

   Two excerpts:

   A bag that weighs more empty than the contents it carries is quite a
   bag. A rack that shows off its beauty and never covers itself with a
   bag or basket is quite a rack. A bike and every part on it should
   (shoulds are OK now and then, no matter what they told you in the
   late  '70s) serve a function. That doesn't mean they shouldn't do it
   nicely, or artifully, or even beautifully. I would say the best (value
   judgement time!) do that, and 'm not the arbiter of taste, but I'm all
   for it beaunction. I want to coin b-words.

   A bike should look only so fancy. There's a line. It's easy to cross
   it. Bikes that win awards at bike shows often cross my personal line,
   but not the lines of the judges. It's kind of a Normal Jean or Marilyn
   Monroe? thing. I meant Norma, but normal works. I believe more in
   muscle memory than in the subconscious. The one that's easier to prove
   gets my vote.
   --
   Patrick Moore
   Albuquerque, NM
   For professional resumes, contact
   Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com

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[RBW] WTB or WTT Sugino XD 175mm

[rw1911]

Hi All,

I am currently using a 170mm Sugino XD triple crankset and would like
to change to 175mm. Looking to buy a nice used set or possibly trade
if interested.

Thanks,

Ron

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder on Chicago CL

[rw1911]

Very nice!

Your pictures reflect the bike much better than the seller's.
Interesting to see the differences from my 700c Match built AR.  The
main lugs are similar, but other details such as the cable stops and
(lack of) shifter bosses is different.



On Mar 11, 7:50 pm, Kentileguy ken_y...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 As 
 promised:http://www.flickr.com/photos/kentileguy/5518761984/in/set-72157626246...

 On Mar 11, 6:12 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:

  Great bike, nice to see it go to a good home - especially one that
  will share pics! Speaking of cantis, I just picked up a set of Paul
  touring cantis for my new Bombadil build (thanks Eric - and nice AHH
  you had there!) - it's getting close. I've had other Paul brakes for a
  while, and if the cantis are anything like the racers, I'm sure I'll
  love 'em. Actually, the other cantis I've always liked a lot are the
  old Dia Compe 980s. They have a really nice feel. Enjoy the AR - I
  hope to see it around Chicago.

  Marty

  On Mar 11, 4:04 pm, Kentileguy ken_y...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

   My plan was to just get the frame, but the xt wheelset was actually an
   xtr including the cassette, crankset is a pristine xt, DA 7400 rear
   der. Basically I took everything but the riser bars,brakes, shifters,
   seat pedals. The color is a pearlescent yellow, its real purdy! I'll
   be looking for canti brake advice. Pics soon

   On Mar 11, 2:18 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:

Looks like it's gone--yours now?  Nice score!

Ryan

On Mar 11, 11:19 am, Kentileguy ken_y...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Saw it it person, pictures don't do it justice. Its in my garage now

 On Mar 10, 1:38 pm, Steve yngp...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Not mine, but I've been in contact with seller.  Based on serial
  number, this is Waterford built in 1996.  Thinking about checking it
  out myself, but would be happy to look at it on behalf of someone on
  the list if there is interest.

  On Mar 10, 10:47 am, Curtis Schmitt curtisrschm...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

   on ebay as well: *http://tinyurl.com/4azq3vg*

   On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:
Not mine, and not my size,  but it's a sweet one.

   http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/bik/2255838173.html

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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Recipes?

[rw1911]

Yummy.

There are some great recipes on Mark's Daily Apple under Freebies 
Reader Created Cookbooks.  No affiliation other than we tried a few
of the recipes and loved them.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/



On Feb 21, 12:04 am, AmiSingh asd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here's a link to one inspired by GP.

 Salmon, pan fried with olive oil, thyme, sea-salt, black pepper,
 finished with blueberry and walnut compote made with fresh
 blueberries, California walnuts, butter, cinnamon and freshly squeezed
 lemon juice.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/49513914@N04/5460979191

 Delicious :)

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[RBW] Re: AR front brake shudder and fork flex

[rw1911]

Incredible response with a lot of great information and ideas for me
to try.  Thanks everyone.


On Feb 18, 10:09 pm, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm assuming (hoping) this is a simple setup issue...

 I've recently installed Paul brakes (neo-retro front, touring rear) on
 my relatively new to me 700c All-Rounder.  The rears are wonderful, if
 not too powerful...  I can skid at will.  However, I'm experiencing
 extreme shudder and fork flex on the front.

 The headset is tight and the pads are toe'd to contact forward. Under
 low to medium speed braking, I can see/feel  the fork flex (a lot!)
 and shudder.  The straddle cable is set at about the top third of the
 lower headset cup.  I've cleaned the rim and while it has gotten
 slightly better with use, is this a matter of adjustment or is the neo-
 retro too powerful?

 One thing I noticed during installation is that the Paul brakes sit a
 good bit higher on the studs than the Shimano's they replaced.  Could
 this be contributing to the flex in the mounting studs and/or fork?

 Any experience/advice is appreciated.

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[RBW] AR front brake shudder and fork flex

[rw1911]

I'm assuming (hoping) this is a simple setup issue...

I've recently installed Paul brakes (neo-retro front, touring rear) on
my relatively new to me 700c All-Rounder.  The rears are wonderful, if
not too powerful...  I can skid at will.  However, I'm experiencing
extreme shudder and fork flex on the front.

The headset is tight and the pads are toe'd to contact forward. Under
low to medium speed braking, I can see/feel  the fork flex (a lot!)
and shudder.  The straddle cable is set at about the top third of the
lower headset cup.  I've cleaned the rim and while it has gotten
slightly better with use, is this a matter of adjustment or is the neo-
retro too powerful?

One thing I noticed during installation is that the Paul brakes sit a
good bit higher on the studs than the Shimano's they replaced.  Could
this be contributing to the flex in the mounting studs and/or fork?

Any experience/advice is appreciated.







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[RBW] Re: Blog post about tubing for AHH

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I would love to know what my '99 AR was constructed with and which
talented craftsman actually built it. I know someone at match did the
brazing and JB painted it, but have no idea of what the tubes are.
(not that it really matters, more of a curiosity than anything else)



On Feb 12, 4:15 pm, Ryan ryter...@mts.net wrote:
 Actually, I still have the documentation from the custom Riv I ordered
 in 2000. As delivery time approached Rivendell sent me the tubing
 specs for my frame. True Temper OX PLAT and
 Reynolds 753, 725, and  EB705? Reynolds for the fork blades.I like
 that purple Reynolds decal..it's still hangin'  in there on my 1997 AR

 On Feb 10, 1:15 pm, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote:

  Lots of responses! From my point of view, one of the values of the
  blogstuff is that it doesn't have to be thoroughly thought-out. I can
  get a bug and turn it into a monster, or just vent, or whatever. So,
  even though I know what I mean and intend to say basically, it doesn't
  always come off perfectly, and on a blogpost that's fine. The comments/
  criticisms all make sense to me--I agree, for instance, that brand of
  lumber would be a dumber question than kind of tree, so my point
  wasn't flawlessly made by far, but it was still made, and then it
  gives you time to think about it and have your crack at it, and maybe
  gets you thinking about things that are good diversions and help you
  settle things in your own head. That's also not my intention, but it's
  a good result.
  In my undefense, I have at one or more times in my life been more
  decal-sensitive and  small-picture obsessive than any of the likes of
  you! In the early days here we were building with Reynolds 753 tubing,
  and in the old-old days I love the way the purple decals looked on
  bikes, and I especially liked the French versions.
  Well, Reynolds had run out of them, and didn't even have the artwork.
  Didn't even have the artwork! So I dug and called and came up with the
  art, and reconstructed the decals with Reynolds's consent (I was
  surprised they gave it, but hey).
  Reynolds 753 is heat-treated 531. They heat-treated it and added two
  to each number. The 531-- this is trivia -- refers to a 5:3:1 ratio
  of alloying elements in the steel, (Manganese: Silicon: Phosphorous?--
  I don't know). So, Reynolds used to say, don't call it 'five thirty-
  one'; it's 'five-three-one')
  Today, 853 is heat-treated 631, following the same add-two formula.
  Not all Reynolds tube numbers follow this. Reynolds 525 (standard
  butted CrMo) when heat-treated becomes 725, not 10410. If Reynolds had
  named 753  642 instead of 753, they'd have been able to maintain the
  add-two formula.



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[RBW] Re: Update on riding changes this year.. (oops it's long)

[rw1911]

Cannondale race bike  Pinarello classic steel  Kirk Terraplane
(still have it)  Rivendell All-Rounder for pretty much the same
reasons.



On Feb 6, 1:25 am, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well the change is almost complete to the point it feels normal, and
 surprising.  I honestly didn't think many of the things I was changing would
 stay with me.  I've ridden long enough to understand speed and sprints and
 hurting and doing centuries all over the country remembering only the pace
 line.  So I wasn't as sure about platform pedals, heavier bikes, larger
 tires, sitting upright, and all the other stuff.  

 Well I have reference the joy several times.  Well the newness has worn off
 a bit, the bikes have earned scratches and scrapes.  We bikes and I have
 experianced snow, rain, dirt, mud, traffic and alone time on back pathes
 along the rivers.  They unlike me photograph beautifully.

 So after several hundred miles and on track for another 4 to 6 thousand mile
 year the following is where I stand.

 *Platform pedals* - Still the thing I most often consider changing ..
 however everytime I thing about it I realize that 85% of the time I like my
 grip kings and shoe choice and comfort .. not to mention my feet just aren't
 as cold in regular hiking shoes.  

 *Wider Tires* - Ok on my tour bike I could understand 700x35's and enjoyed
 them.  I would never have considered 700x35's for daily riding however
 untill I got my AHH.  The JB lights have been fantastic and given me a great
 fast ride.  (especially when I put some air in them) Then when I got my
 Bombadil with 700x50 big apples and road some 30 and 50 mile rides I was
 just amazed.  Yes they are slower, accerlation is slower.. but on a normal
 social ride it hasn't mattered.  Thrilled.. I am one who will NEVER ride a
 700x23 tires again.  

 *Upright riding position-* My experiance had been on my older tour bike that
 the more upright position meant my ass hurt sooner and was out of the
 question for longer rides.  (nose up saddle position fixed this fyi) I
 always believed an aggressive riding position distributed the weight to my
 hands and legs etc causing less stress on my rear.  Also meant many miles of
 base riding to get comfortable in that position for long 100 to 120 mile
 rides.  

 *Mental- *This goes with most topics but since I lost speed .. which I don't
 care about or so I kept telling myself I was concerned.  I'm at the point
 where to quote someone on here.. it's been fun per hour over mph thus I'm
 enjoying a new chapter in riding and back to riding .. the bikes don't just
 sit.. I don't dread getting on the bike anymore.  Sometimes change is good.  
 Please don't get me wrong.  The fast days were fun. I reached all my speed
 goals and distance goals and extreme stuff for me.  I was burnt on it.

 *Dyno Lighting *- I bought a SON28 and then put it on my AHH as a temp thing
 with thoughts of taking it off during the summer and spring and such.  Maybe
 putting it on a different bike for just night time runs to the store.  Well
 I fell in love with it. It hasn't been off the bike and won't be coming
 off.  When I ordered the Bombadil I ordered it with a Son28.  I can't find a
 reason to not run these hubs.  

 Peronsal opinion here:  I bought an Edelux light and then purchased the
 supernova E3 Triple for the Bombadil.  Yes the supernova is super bright but
 the Edelux does more than I need and gets to full brightness at 2mph or so
 ..if I had it to do over again I would purchase another edelux.. the beama
 and the light are spectacular.  Just my opinion and it may change as time
 goes on.

 *Lycra Spandex Free - *I am just as comfortable without it. I don't
 understand it and am not going to lose sleep over it.  I honestly didn't
 think I would last more than a few short rides.  Now I've ridden several 50+
 and a couple of 60 mile rides where when I got home I was ready to go ride
 more.  It's been a non issue.  The musa pants I purchased from Riv have been
 very comfortable.   Ilike the olive with the velcro better than the blue
 with the zipper legs for looks only.  The blue are less hassel for riding
 actually.  I always forget to velcro the legs closed on the olive ones.  
 Hell I've done 30 mile rides in blue jeans on a new brooks b17.  I believe
 it's the nose up saddle position that has changed things and maybe fit of
 bike??

 *Bags- *Nigel Smythe - kinda says it all.  I used to use the fizik saddle
 bag that slid into the saddle that would hold a tube and an inflater.
 That entire bag would fit loosly into the side compartment of either of my
 Nigel Smythes.  Lovin it!

 *Bikes*
 **
 *AHH *Regardless of having earned it's first gouge and being blown off the
 kickstand a couple of times it is a joy.   Everytime I get on it I feel like
 it's a part of me.  It's handled 40+mph downhills comfortably and has been
 nothing but stable.

 *Bombadil- *I put a tubus nova lowrider on it then loaded up my panniers
 with 60lbs 

[RBW] Re: Protovelo with paint

[rw1911]

While I think the RPC is really cool, the new paint is beautiful!  I
would have never thought of dark brown with blue decals; but it's
unique and very nice combination.

On Feb 4, 1:57 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
 As many of you know, I've been happily riding my Nobilette-made
 Protovelo since 2008 in RCP.  Time for paint!

 I was originally considering Pea-Sage Green, seriously considered one-
 color Navy, and went with chocolate brown and creme accents - as it is
 a Rivendell after all, if a prototype.  Perhaps professorial?  The Riv
 painter does a great job!

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/5415949833/in/set-721576047...

 Running it for the So Cal Riv Ride with Hetres, then onto fenders and
 perhaps Lierres.

 http://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/2011/02/04/color-is-nice/

 Esteban
 San Diego, Calif.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm Bombadil with Bullmoose

[rw1911]

Cool bike and great seller!



On Jan 24, 7:49 pm, AJ flyfisherman.cad...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello All,

 My bike collection is becoming a bit more focused, and I'm finding the
 Bombadil will be better suited in a new home.  Its a beautiful frame
 that just did not get the use I hoped it would have.  The frame, bar
 and headset are part of the sale.  The frame rates a 9.5/10 and bars a
 10.

 Pic's are here:

 http://tinyurl.com/4jstfb6

 $1,700 plus shipping is my asking price.  Currently the set up would
 sell for about $2,500 new.

 Many thanks,
 AJ

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[RBW] Re: Tires.... what to buy

[rw1911]

I like the Paselas. 6'2, 225 on 700x35 Kevlar TG. Nashbar has them on
sale from time to time.


On Jan 6, 10:40 am, bicitourist ejro...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone, The time has come to get some tires for my new ride.  I've been
 running a loaned pair of Schwable Marathon 700x32 @ 80-85psi from my
 commuter. I've been running these for a couple of years now with no problems
 but I wanted something more supple. New bike = New tires right? I know I'm
 giving up some puncture resistance for comfort, but I'm sure there is a
 sweet spot out there!   I tried some continental gatorskins 700x28 (but they
 were too skinny and made my bike feel unstable maybe it was all those miles
 on the 32s?). I'm looking for an all-round tire, but most of my miles are on
 pavement (I'd say 80%). I'm also planning on my first 200K and 300K this
 year!

 From my research it looks like I've narrowed it down to:

 Jack Brown Blue's (I'm 6 ft 215lb so i don't think Greens will do)
 Pasela Wire bead
 GB Cypres

 Thanks in advance for the advice! --Eduardo

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[RBW] Re: What Makes the Rivendell

[rw1911]

Interesting comment.  Care to elaborate?  (not a challenge, just
curious)  :-)



On Jan 10, 8:52 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
 Guess that means I have never qualified, as have never been able to
 pass another rider.

 Strangely enough, been finding more and more that my Rivendell is the
 most limited (and limiting) bike.  Maybe it's time to move on.
 Somebody is probably going to get a good deal on a built up Sam
 Hillborne soon.

 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN

 On Jan 10, 6:45 am, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote:

  +1

  On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:
   Well this is the Riv Owners Group what better place to be snarky?
   I say Snark on.. we aren't that thin skinned.

   Kelly



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[RBW] Re: Atlantis?

[rw1911]

Save for the color, it looks identical to my match built All-
rounder... including the lugs, braze-ons and badge.  As far as tires
its difficult to tell from the photo, but I believe the AR used 26 up
to about 59cm and the larger frames used 700's.


On Jan 4, 11:53 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 on 1/4/11 12:16 AM, Benedikt at neutralbuoya...@comcast.net wrote:

  What model Rivendell is this?  Looks like an Atlantis but no where on
  the frame does it say so.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/5322621005/

 Rivendell headbadge and downtube decal would suggest a custom. The
 hourglass mid-fork braze-ons would suggest within the last 4 years, I
 think.  That does seem to be a sage green which is a custom color, rather
 than the Atlantis seafoam green.

 The other interesting bits are the simple lugs which do not have the shape
 of the current lugs (though the back end on the top and down tubes seem
 more complex). And I think those are the longer tips on the fork crown,
 again suggesting earlier.  It might be an early custom with a repaint and
 some newer bits brazed on.

 - J

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[RBW] Re: Help me figure out how many bikes I need, and how to configure them

[rw1911]

The Hillborne could do it all.

I've heard some negative things about the Bobike carrier...  no
protection, mounting challenges, knee and body interference.  Take a
look at the Topeak Babyseat II.  While big and kind of ugly, it looks
like an easy on/off solution that uses a rear rack and appears to
offer some protection.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hiawathacyclery/2384323028/

(Disclaimer: I have no first hand experience with child carriers (yet)
but have been researching options for the summer when my son is old
enough to ride along)



On Dec 17, 4:38 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 since plenty of you seem to be snowed under with time on your hands, I
 thought I'd tap into the collective wisdom to reconfigure my stable.

 I know that the answer to this question is n + 1, where n = current #
 of bikes, and I am open to that possibility, but would prefer to keep
 n = 2 (not counting the tandem).

 Here are my riding needs, in order of frequency/importance (btw, don't
 have a car):

 1. Commuting: 5-8 round trips a week, short (10-30 minutes) frequently
 wet, occasionally in the dark. Fenders a must.

 2. Mixed road/dirt road rides, once a week, 3-5 hours (Jack Browns
 work, but are a bit skinny for these rides). Fenders a must.

 3. Starting in 3 months or so, kid hauling as well as recreational
 rides with kid, in a Bobike mini seat, mounted to the stem. Kid
 hauling will be infrequent and short distance (to meet mom for lunch
 at her office), and the majority of recreational rides with the kid
 will most likely happen on the tandem, which is also being modified
 for kid hauling duty. Should have fenders, though I wouldn't ride with
 the kid if it was already raining).

 4. Occasionally the weekly ride is a 2-3 hour single track ride with
 about 1 hour of road riding to get there and back. Would prefer no
 fenders for this setup (two dirt rides ago my friend Paul got
 something stuck between tire and front fender, and it wasn't pretty
 (fender buckled, downtube scratched, though he didn't crash).

 5. Occasional brief tours (S24Os). Any longer tours would happen on
 the tandem.

 6. Occasionally need a visitor's bike for people of varying heights.

 Current stable:

 1. 2009 56cm Sam Hillborne, usually sporting Jack Browns, 42mm
 fenders, noodles, front basket, rear 
 rackhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/5185320523/

 2. 1990 17 Fisher Sphinx monster cross. Currently sporting 700C 35mm
 Paselas 52mm fenders, porteur bars, rear rack. Relatively high bottom
 bracket.http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/5242295929/

 3. 2008 Tank (Taiwanese brand) mtn tandem, sporting 26 35mm slicks,
 fenders, rear rack. Extremely high bb, virtually no bb 
 drop.http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/5267816307/

 4. Other 700C tires in the stable: 42mm IRC Mythos CX Pro Slick (semi
 knobby), 40mm Kenda Kwick Roller Ez Ride (smooth; coming soon).

 A) I have tried mounting the kid seat on the Sam with the noodles,
 moving the technomic deluxe as high as possible, but am doubtful that
 the kid seat will work with either noodles or moustache bars, unless I
 get a dirt drop stem (My chest gets in the way of my kid's head).
 Seems like the kid hauler will have to have porteur bars.

 B) I don't think I want to use porteur bars for recreational road or
 off-road rides, especially with the horizontally short stem and
 upright position that would be required for mounting the kid seat.

 C) The Fisher is too small to take the kid seat, I think. It has a 1
 1/4 threaded headset, and tall stems don't seem to be available (not
 sure that they ever were). Have purchased a Nitto stem riser to use 1
 1/8 threadless, but even with a very tall stem (110mm, 35 degr.
 rise), the bars are still too low for the kid seat. The only cheap way
 to get this bike to have a chance to work as a kid hauler is to add an
 insert to the steerer tube so that it can accept a 1 dirt drop stem
 or some such, or to have a custom stem made.

 D) Would like my Sam to be set-up as my go fast, rather than the
 Fisher.

 E) Prefer to have the Fisher set-up as the trail bike (may get 50mm
 tires for it eventually, which won't fit the Sam).

 F) Would like to try a 650B low trail bike one of these days.

 G) Would prefer a low bb bike for kid hauling, to facilitate getting a
 foot down at stops.

 Possible Solutions:

 I. Buy a VO Polyvalent, have 4 bikes: Sam go-fast/commuter, Fisher
 trail bike, VO kid hauler/commuter, tandem family van. This way I will
 get to try a 650b low trail bike. But buying a bike and having it
 shipped to Thailand is an expensive proposition, especially with the
 threat of a 60% import duty. I have no plans for a trip to the US to
 bring a bike with me, which would avoid the import duty. Probably
 can't afford this option right now, and car port space is already
 limited. Financial outlay: $1700 or so.

 II. Buy a Polyvalent, sell the Fisher. Solves the space problem, helps
 with the financial 

[RBW] Rambouillet dropout cracks

[rw1911]

I'm fairly new to the world of Rivendell and the current Rambouillet
serial number thread got me thinking...

I have seen more than one report of Rambouillet right rear dropouts
cracking.  Was a root cause ever identified such as a weight limit or
manufacturing defect?  Was there a change during the Rambouillet's
production put in place to address this issue?  If so when? (s/n
range, etc.)

(or is this a randomly occurring non-issue?)

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