Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Ryan Frahm]

Message sent. And another vote for pirate shipping, has saved me a small 
fortune!

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:10:11 AM UTC-8 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the tip!  I've sold a fair number of handlebars online lately 
> and they're a pain, first having to custom make a box, then dealing with 
> shipping rates.  Anything that helps - helps!
>
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 11:44:50 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Since you mentioned the cost of shipping for a large package, check out 
>> pirateship.com. Its free to create an account and they offer heavy 
>> discounts on shipping. I use it all the time now.
>>
>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 10:30:30 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Uh oh, an available set of Ortho Bars! 
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 10:16:34 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi, Brynnar.  I have a set of Ron's Bars that I'm not going to use 
 (switched over to Choco-moose on my Hunqapillar).  Like-new shape, maybe 
 some marks from clamping, but otherwise perfect.  Centering looks good on 
 them too - the edge of the blue tape in the photos is the center.  I'd 
 sell 
 them for the same thing I paid: $120 + shipping.  (Shipping probably will 
 be significant - I'm in northern NJ/NYC if you're local.)  Photos here - 
 https://photos.app.goo.gl/kdqHP5vX727RxhGq9 

 On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 12:17:20 PM UTC-5 ctifusion wrote:

> Anyone have one that's not crazy off center and want to sell them (or 
> trade) let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Brynnar
>
> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 6:39:49 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> He, he that was me, the clamp size made me pause on snapping up a 
>> set. I regret not buying them, they were in my cart. I could have just 
>> purchased a 26.0 stem from Simworks and be on the other side of this 
>> have 
>> vs have not :)
>>
>> Hugh
>> LA.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:24:23 AM UTC-8 Dee Dee wrote:
>>
>>> Someone asked the same thing on one of his instagram posts. His 
>>> response:
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-10 at 11.17.24 AM.png]
>>> Maybe he has some 26mm clamp stems in production to accompany the 
>>> next batch of bars?
>>>
>>> -Danny
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 10:53 AM Den John  wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone know why they went for a 26mm clamp rather than 25.4mm? 
 It seems like there's much more choice
 in 25.4mm stems (either ahead or quill). 25.4mm would go nicely 
 with a Nitto V-4 or V-5, then there's much less worry about slipping.

 Cheers,
 Johnny
 On Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 01:22:13 UTC+1 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a 
> drivetrain upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. 
> Sorry to 
> tempt you with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health 
> benefits). 
>
> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill 
> Technomic deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost 
> centimeter check 
> 'em here 
> 
> . 
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips 
> wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm 
>> quill, but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until 
>> I do. I 
>> don't need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
>>> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
>>> putting 
>>> it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I 
>>> don't 
>>> know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I 
>>> assumed 
>>> that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem 
>>> adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the 
>>> aesthetics. 
>>> I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues 
>>> with the 
>>> Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.
>>>
>>> Bones
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 
>>> fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass 
 them along? Because I’m in! Haha

 On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[James M]

Thanks for the tip!  I've sold a fair number of handlebars online lately 
and they're a pain, first having to custom make a box, then dealing with 
shipping rates.  Anything that helps - helps!

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 11:44:50 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Since you mentioned the cost of shipping for a large package, check out 
> pirateship.com. Its free to create an account and they offer heavy 
> discounts on shipping. I use it all the time now.
>
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 10:30:30 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Uh oh, an available set of Ortho Bars! 
>>
>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 10:16:34 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Brynnar.  I have a set of Ron's Bars that I'm not going to use 
>>> (switched over to Choco-moose on my Hunqapillar).  Like-new shape, maybe 
>>> some marks from clamping, but otherwise perfect.  Centering looks good on 
>>> them too - the edge of the blue tape in the photos is the center.  I'd sell 
>>> them for the same thing I paid: $120 + shipping.  (Shipping probably will 
>>> be significant - I'm in northern NJ/NYC if you're local.)  Photos here - 
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/kdqHP5vX727RxhGq9 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 12:17:20 PM UTC-5 ctifusion wrote:
>>>
 Anyone have one that's not crazy off center and want to sell them (or 
 trade) let me know.

 Thanks,
 Brynnar

 On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 6:39:49 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> He, he that was me, the clamp size made me pause on snapping up a set. 
> I regret not buying them, they were in my cart. I could have just 
> purchased 
> a 26.0 stem from Simworks and be on the other side of this have vs have 
> not 
> :)
>
> Hugh
> LA.
>
>
> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:24:23 AM UTC-8 Dee Dee wrote:
>
>> Someone asked the same thing on one of his instagram posts. His 
>> response:
>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-10 at 11.17.24 AM.png]
>> Maybe he has some 26mm clamp stems in production to accompany the 
>> next batch of bars?
>>
>> -Danny
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 10:53 AM Den John  wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know why they went for a 26mm clamp rather than 25.4mm? 
>>> It seems like there's much more choice
>>> in 25.4mm stems (either ahead or quill). 25.4mm would go nicely with 
>>> a Nitto V-4 or V-5, then there's much less worry about slipping.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Johnny
>>> On Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 01:22:13 UTC+1 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a 
 drivetrain upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry 
 to 
 tempt you with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health 
 benefits). 

 John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill 
 Technomic deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost 
 centimeter check 
 'em here 
 
 . 

 On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips 
 wrote:

> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm 
> quill, but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I 
> do. I 
> don't need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>
> John
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>
>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
>> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
>> putting 
>> it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I 
>> don't 
>> know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I 
>> assumed 
>> that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem 
>> adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the 
>> aesthetics. 
>> I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with 
>> the 
>> Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.
>>
>> Bones
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them 
>>> along? Because I’m in! Haha
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 

 That gave me a chuckle.

 John

 On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM 

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Johnny Alien]

Since you mentioned the cost of shipping for a large package, check out 
pirateship.com. Its free to create an account and they offer heavy 
discounts on shipping. I use it all the time now.

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 10:30:30 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Uh oh, an available set of Ortho Bars! 
>
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 10:16:34 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi, Brynnar.  I have a set of Ron's Bars that I'm not going to use 
>> (switched over to Choco-moose on my Hunqapillar).  Like-new shape, maybe 
>> some marks from clamping, but otherwise perfect.  Centering looks good on 
>> them too - the edge of the blue tape in the photos is the center.  I'd sell 
>> them for the same thing I paid: $120 + shipping.  (Shipping probably will 
>> be significant - I'm in northern NJ/NYC if you're local.)  Photos here - 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/kdqHP5vX727RxhGq9 
>>
>> On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 12:17:20 PM UTC-5 ctifusion wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone have one that's not crazy off center and want to sell them (or 
>>> trade) let me know.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brynnar
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 6:39:49 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
 He, he that was me, the clamp size made me pause on snapping up a set. 
 I regret not buying them, they were in my cart. I could have just 
 purchased 
 a 26.0 stem from Simworks and be on the other side of this have vs have 
 not 
 :)

 Hugh
 LA.


 On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:24:23 AM UTC-8 Dee Dee wrote:

> Someone asked the same thing on one of his instagram posts. His 
> response:
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-10 at 11.17.24 AM.png]
> Maybe he has some 26mm clamp stems in production to accompany the next 
> batch of bars?
>
> -Danny
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 10:53 AM Den John  wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know why they went for a 26mm clamp rather than 25.4mm? 
>> It seems like there's much more choice
>> in 25.4mm stems (either ahead or quill). 25.4mm would go nicely with 
>> a Nitto V-4 or V-5, then there's much less worry about slipping.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johnny
>> On Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 01:22:13 UTC+1 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a 
>>> drivetrain upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry 
>>> to 
>>> tempt you with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health 
>>> benefits). 
>>>
>>> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
>>> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
>>> 'em here 
>>> 
>>> . 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm 
 quill, but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I 
 do. I 
 don't need them too high, so fingers crossed.

 John

 On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:

> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
> putting 
> it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I 
> don't 
> know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I 
> assumed 
> that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem 
> adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the 
> aesthetics. 
> I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with 
> the 
> Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.
>
> Bones
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them 
>> along? Because I’m in! Haha
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 
>>>
>>> That gave me a chuckle.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 
>>> eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I 
 seem to recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction 
 compound to 
 the stem. Oh, I found it. 

 [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]

 On Tuesday, February 8, 

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Eric Marth]

Uh oh, an available set of Ortho Bars! 

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 10:16:34 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi, Brynnar.  I have a set of Ron's Bars that I'm not going to use 
> (switched over to Choco-moose on my Hunqapillar).  Like-new shape, maybe 
> some marks from clamping, but otherwise perfect.  Centering looks good on 
> them too - the edge of the blue tape in the photos is the center.  I'd sell 
> them for the same thing I paid: $120 + shipping.  (Shipping probably will 
> be significant - I'm in northern NJ/NYC if you're local.)  Photos here - 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/kdqHP5vX727RxhGq9 
>
> On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 12:17:20 PM UTC-5 ctifusion wrote:
>
>> Anyone have one that's not crazy off center and want to sell them (or 
>> trade) let me know.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Brynnar
>>
>> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 6:39:49 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> He, he that was me, the clamp size made me pause on snapping up a set. I 
>>> regret not buying them, they were in my cart. I could have just purchased a 
>>> 26.0 stem from Simworks and be on the other side of this have vs have not :)
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>> LA.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:24:23 AM UTC-8 Dee Dee wrote:
>>>
 Someone asked the same thing on one of his instagram posts. His 
 response:
 [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-10 at 11.17.24 AM.png]
 Maybe he has some 26mm clamp stems in production to accompany the next 
 batch of bars?

 -Danny

 On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 10:53 AM Den John  wrote:

> Does anyone know why they went for a 26mm clamp rather than 25.4mm? It 
> seems like there's much more choice
> in 25.4mm stems (either ahead or quill). 25.4mm would go nicely with a 
> Nitto V-4 or V-5, then there's much less worry about slipping.
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
> On Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 01:22:13 UTC+1 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
>> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
>> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 
>>
>> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
>> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
>> 'em here 
>> 
>> . 
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm 
>>> quill, but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I 
>>> do. I 
>>> don't need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>>
 Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
 attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
 putting 
 it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I 
 don't 
 know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I 
 assumed 
 that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem 
 adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the 
 aesthetics. 
 I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with 
 the 
 Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.

 Bones
 On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them 
> along? Because I’m in! Haha
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips 
> wrote:
>
>> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 
>>
>> That gave me a chuckle.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 
>> eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I 
>>> seem to recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction 
>>> compound to 
>>> the stem. Oh, I found it. 
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:
>>>
 I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted 
 it on a 4 bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners 
 Bunch  wrote:

 

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[James M]

Hi, Brynnar.  I have a set of Ron's Bars that I'm not going to use 
(switched over to Choco-moose on my Hunqapillar).  Like-new shape, maybe 
some marks from clamping, but otherwise perfect.  Centering looks good on 
them too - the edge of the blue tape in the photos is the center.  I'd sell 
them for the same thing I paid: $120 + shipping.  (Shipping probably will 
be significant - I'm in northern NJ/NYC if you're local.)  Photos here 
- https://photos.app.goo.gl/kdqHP5vX727RxhGq9 

On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 12:17:20 PM UTC-5 ctifusion wrote:

> Anyone have one that's not crazy off center and want to sell them (or 
> trade) let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Brynnar
>
> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 6:39:49 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> He, he that was me, the clamp size made me pause on snapping up a set. I 
>> regret not buying them, they were in my cart. I could have just purchased a 
>> 26.0 stem from Simworks and be on the other side of this have vs have not :)
>>
>> Hugh
>> LA.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:24:23 AM UTC-8 Dee Dee wrote:
>>
>>> Someone asked the same thing on one of his instagram posts. His response:
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-10 at 11.17.24 AM.png]
>>> Maybe he has some 26mm clamp stems in production to accompany the next 
>>> batch of bars?
>>>
>>> -Danny
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 10:53 AM Den John  wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone know why they went for a 26mm clamp rather than 25.4mm? It 
 seems like there's much more choice
 in 25.4mm stems (either ahead or quill). 25.4mm would go nicely with a 
 Nitto V-4 or V-5, then there's much less worry about slipping.

 Cheers,
 Johnny
 On Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 01:22:13 UTC+1 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 
>
> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
> 'em here 
> 
> . 
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill, 
>> but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I 
>> don't 
>> need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
>>> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
>>> putting 
>>> it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I 
>>> don't 
>>> know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I 
>>> assumed 
>>> that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem 
>>> adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the 
>>> aesthetics. 
>>> I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with 
>>> the 
>>> Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.
>>>
>>> Bones
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them 
 along? Because I’m in! Haha

 On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips 
 wrote:

> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 
>
> That gave me a chuckle.
>
> John
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I 
>> seem to recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction 
>> compound to 
>> the stem. Oh, I found it. 
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:
>>
>>> I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted 
>>> it on a 4 bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners 
>>> Bunch  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the 
>>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>>> 

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[ctifusion]

Anyone have one that's not crazy off center and want to sell them (or 
trade) let me know.

Thanks,
Brynnar

On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 6:39:49 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> He, he that was me, the clamp size made me pause on snapping up a set. I 
> regret not buying them, they were in my cart. I could have just purchased a 
> 26.0 stem from Simworks and be on the other side of this have vs have not :)
>
> Hugh
> LA.
>
>
> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:24:23 AM UTC-8 Dee Dee wrote:
>
>> Someone asked the same thing on one of his instagram posts. His response:
>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-10 at 11.17.24 AM.png]
>> Maybe he has some 26mm clamp stems in production to accompany the next 
>> batch of bars?
>>
>> -Danny
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 10:53 AM Den John  wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know why they went for a 26mm clamp rather than 25.4mm? It 
>>> seems like there's much more choice
>>> in 25.4mm stems (either ahead or quill). 25.4mm would go nicely with a 
>>> Nitto V-4 or V-5, then there's much less worry about slipping.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Johnny
>>> On Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 01:22:13 UTC+1 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
 upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
 with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 

 John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
 deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
 'em here 
 
 . 

 On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:

> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill, 
> but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I 
> don't 
> need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>
> John
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>
>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
>> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
>> putting 
>> it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I don't 
>> know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I 
>> assumed 
>> that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem 
>> adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the 
>> aesthetics. 
>> I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with the 
>> Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.
>>
>> Bones
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them 
>>> along? Because I’m in! Haha
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips wrote:
>>>
 "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 

 That gave me a chuckle.

 John

 On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I seem 
> to recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction compound to 
> the 
> stem. Oh, I found it. 
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:
>
>> I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted 
>> it on a 4 bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?
>>
>> John
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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Hugh Smitham]

He, he that was me, the clamp size made me pause on snapping up a set. I 
regret not buying them, they were in my cart. I could have just purchased a 
26.0 stem from Simworks and be on the other side of this have vs have not :)

Hugh
LA.

On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:24:23 AM UTC-8 Dee Dee wrote:

> Someone asked the same thing on one of his instagram posts. His response:
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-10 at 11.17.24 AM.png]
> Maybe he has some 26mm clamp stems in production to accompany the next 
> batch of bars?
>
> -Danny
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 10:53 AM Den John  wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know why they went for a 26mm clamp rather than 25.4mm? It 
>> seems like there's much more choice
>> in 25.4mm stems (either ahead or quill). 25.4mm would go nicely with a 
>> Nitto V-4 or V-5, then there's much less worry about slipping.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johnny
>> On Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 01:22:13 UTC+1 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
>>> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
>>> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 
>>>
>>> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
>>> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
>>> 'em here 
>>> 
>>> . 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>>>
 I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill, 
 but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I don't 
 need them too high, so fingers crossed.

 John

 On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:

> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
> putting 
> it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I don't 
> know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I 
> assumed 
> that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem 
> adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the 
> aesthetics. 
> I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with the 
> Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.
>
> Bones
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them 
>> along? Because I’m in! Haha
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips wrote:
>>
>>> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 
>>>
>>> That gave me a chuckle.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I seem 
 to recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction compound to 
 the 
 stem. Oh, I found it. 

 [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]

 On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:

> I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted it 
> on a 4 bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?
>
> John
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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[MoVelo]

Patch

Thanks for the reply. I knew you lived on the edge, but please becareful or 
your bars will end up like Eric's, who's are seriously wacky.

JP



On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 2:38:12 PM UTC-6 Sam Perez wrote:

> Eric ,
> I did the same thing I think it’s the outer bend I compared my bar with a 
> nitto bar as well.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 17, 2022, at 10:45 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> Lucky – These were made in Taiwan, can't remember the factory. They make 
> bars for one of the big companies (but can't remember who at the moment). 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 1:15:38 PM UTC-5 Lucky wrote:
>
>> Am I wrong that these bars were hand bent by Ron and a vise,  vs “factory 
>> made”? 
>>
>> On Feb 17, 2022, at 10:13, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Eric,  The bar clamp section of my Ortho bars is much more off center 
>> than yours, and I think if I sold them to someone sight unseen, they would 
>> be justifiably PO'd. If I tried to clamp my Ortho bar in a stem, I would be 
>> tightening the stem down on the section transitioning from the 25.4mm clamp 
>> section to the 22.2 bar.
>>
>> Crust emailed me within minutes telling me to send the bars back. This 
>> must be a complete bummer for them, and I only hope they recover 
>> compensation from the manufacturer.
>>
>> I think if the shape of these bars was based on the Albatross rather than 
>> the Bosco, they would fit more bikes, and give people more choices in stem 
>> length to fit their bodies and riding positions. I think the Ortho's don't 
>> need shorter grip sections, they just need some reach, maybe 3-5cm?
>>
>> YMMV,
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:25:40 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @John & Sam: I'm sure you could easily unload those bars, even with the 
>>> asymmetry! 
>>>
>>> Now, regarding the asymmetry. I spent a bit of time looking closely at 
>>> my bars last night. When I align the Ortho Bars with a loose set of 
>>> Albatross bars with both sets facing the same way, nestled together, they 
>>> very clearly don't line up. I assume that the Nitto bars are perfectly 
>>> symmetrical given Nitto's reputation for precision. In the photo I placed 
>>> the rule centered beneath the Albatross bars. 
>>>
>>> However, when I flip the bars around into an interlocking orientation 
>>> the clamps do appear centered. There must be some inconsistency with the 
>>> rise or bends of the Ortho bars that prevents them from nestling on center 
>>> with the Albatross bars when they're both oriented the same direction. When 
>>> measuring I could not determine where the inconsistency is. 
>>>
>>> I measured my Ortho bars from outside to outside, found the center line 
>>> and measured to the left and right from there. There is a slight 
>>> inconsistency in the textured clamp area but it's about 1.2mm. Same for the 
>>> taper of the bar, which I measured with calipers. There's some 
>>> inconsistency but for handlebars it's trivial.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_8497.JPG][image: IMG_8498.JPG][image: IMG_8500.JPG]
>>>
>>>  [image: IMG_8492.JPG][image: IMG_8493.JPG]
>>> [image: IMG_8494.JPG][image: IMG_8496.JPG]
>>> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:55:43 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>>>
 I should have said I have the extinct 56cm Albatross bars which are 
 also a different shape, wider up near bend.

 John

 On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 11:30:00 PM UTC-8 
 brianmark...@gmail.com wrote:

> That’s odd. I didn’t notice anything off with mine, but now I’m 
> curious and will have to check. I think I disagree on them being not much 
> wider than Albas though.
>
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 13:13 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>I received my Ortho bars only to discover the bars are not 
>> symmetrical. Both the structural 25.4mm bar clamp section and the 
>> roughened 
>> grip section for the bar clamp are closer to the right hand side of the 
>> bars, and neither is lined up with each other.  I could live with the 
>> roughened section being a bit off, but the 25.4mm bar clamp section is 
>> way 
>> too far over to the right. I wrote Crust an email asking about a return. 
>> These bars are so wide you don't immediately notice something is off, 
>> but 
>> when I pulled out my 56mm Albatross bars to compare, I noticed the bar 
>> clamp sections wouldn't line up. I was trying to measure just how much 
>> stem 
>> extension I was going to need to move over from my Alba's to the Ortho 
>> bars, and saw something was really off.
>>
>>These bars are not actually a ton wider than my Alba's so I'll 
>> just stick with my albatross cockpit for now.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:40:56 AM UTC-8 mcgr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[sam . perez . 2002]

Eric ,
I did the same thing I think it’s the outer bend I compared my bar with a nitto 
bar as well.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 17, 2022, at 10:45 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
> 
> Lucky – These were made in Taiwan, can't remember the factory. They make 
> bars for one of the big companies (but can't remember who at the moment). 
> 
>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 1:15:38 PM UTC-5 Lucky wrote:
>> Am I wrong that these bars were hand bent by Ron and a vise,  vs “factory 
>> made”? 
>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2022, at 10:13, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Eric,  The bar clamp section of my Ortho bars is much more off center than 
>>> yours, and I think if I sold them to someone sight unseen, they would be 
>>> justifiably PO'd. If I tried to clamp my Ortho bar in a stem, I would be 
>>> tightening the stem down on the section transitioning from the 25.4mm clamp 
>>> section to the 22.2 bar.
>>> 
>>> Crust emailed me within minutes telling me to send the bars back. This must 
>>> be a complete bummer for them, and I only hope they recover compensation 
>>> from the manufacturer.
>>> 
>>> I think if the shape of these bars was based on the Albatross rather than 
>>> the Bosco, they would fit more bikes, and give people more choices in stem 
>>> length to fit their bodies and riding positions. I think the Ortho's don't 
>>> need shorter grip sections, they just need some reach, maybe 3-5cm?
>>> 
>>> YMMV,
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
 On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:25:40 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
 @John & Sam: I'm sure you could easily unload those bars, even with the 
 asymmetry! 
 
 Now, regarding the asymmetry. I spent a bit of time looking closely at my 
 bars last night. When I align the Ortho Bars with a loose set of Albatross 
 bars with both sets facing the same way, nestled together, they very 
 clearly don't line up. I assume that the Nitto bars are perfectly 
 symmetrical given Nitto's reputation for precision. In the photo I placed 
 the rule centered beneath the Albatross bars. 
 
 However, when I flip the bars around into an interlocking orientation the 
 clamps do appear centered. There must be some inconsistency with the rise 
 or bends of the Ortho bars that prevents them from nestling on center with 
 the Albatross bars when they're both oriented the same direction. When 
 measuring I could not determine where the inconsistency is. 
 
 I measured my Ortho bars from outside to outside, found the center line 
 and measured to the left and right from there. There is a slight 
 inconsistency in the textured clamp area but it's about 1.2mm. Same for 
 the taper of the bar, which I measured with calipers. There's some 
 inconsistency but for handlebars it's trivial.
 
 
 
  
 
> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:55:43 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
> I should have said I have the extinct 56cm Albatross bars which are also 
> a different shape, wider up near bend.
> 
> John
> 
>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 11:30:00 PM UTC-8 
>> brianmark...@gmail.com wrote:
>> That’s odd. I didn’t notice anything off with mine, but now I’m curious 
>> and will have to check. I think I disagree on them being not much wider 
>> than Albas though.
>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 13:13 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>>  wrote:
>>>I received my Ortho bars only to discover the bars are not 
>>> symmetrical. Both the structural 25.4mm bar clamp section and the 
>>> roughened grip section for the bar clamp are closer to the right hand 
>>> side of the bars, and neither is lined up with each other.  I could 
>>> live with the roughened section being a bit off, but the 25.4mm bar 
>>> clamp section is way too far over to the right. I wrote Crust an email 
>>> asking about a return. These bars are so wide you don't immediately 
>>> notice something is off, but when I pulled out my 56mm Albatross bars 
>>> to compare, I noticed the bar clamp sections wouldn't line up. I was 
>>> trying to measure just how much stem extension I was going to need to 
>>> move over from my Alba's to the Ortho bars, and saw something was 
>>> really off.
>>> 
>>>These bars are not actually a ton wider than my Alba's so I'll just 
>>> stick with my albatross cockpit for now.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:40:56 AM UTC-8 mcgr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 I'm going to throw up a WTT thread at some point, but the Ron's Ortho 
 bars have just a couple of inch or inch and a half too much backwards 
 reach for my 62cm Hunqapillar (pictured here with a 120mm Technomic).  
 I think I'd be better off with a Billie bar.  I'm in northern NJ, work 
 in Manhattan, if anyone would be interested in a 

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Bill Lindsay]

Sam Perez reported:  " I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds 
okay..."

Off the topic of this thread, I'd just like to report that if/when I open 
my one-man offroad allroad bicycle boutique up in Gold Country, I will 
consider using the name:  Dirt Drip

Trademarked!

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 1:29:32 PM UTC-8 Sam Perez wrote:

> I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted it on a 4 
> bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?
>
> John
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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

['John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Ok, this is really, really embarrassing, but I rechecked my Ortho bars 
before packing them up for return, and they are not, definitely NOT as 
FUBAR'ed as I had described earlier.

  I'm really doubting my sanity here. I remeasured where the bar clamp 
section was, checked it over with calipers, and the 26mm bar clamp section 
is right where the stem needs it to be. The roughened section is a bit off, 
but still where the stem needs it to be. What in the world made me see 
otherwise? This is scary, I hope this isn't a sign of early dementia. I 
have to email Crust and apologize.

Comparing the Ortho bars to my Albatross bars does show off the Ortho bars' 
flaws more than you notice just looking at the Ortho Bars alone. The right 
side grips are about 5mm higher than the left, and the clamp section's 
flaws look worse when held up next to Nitto's, but they are perfectly 
usable bars.

I'm going to keep these and try these out with as a long a stem as I can 
find, and hopefully get them to work.

I apologize to everyone for my what I wrote earlier.

John

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 10:46:12 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> John – Sorry your bars are wack! Yeah, must be a bummer for Crust with a 
> ton of people saying "When ya gonna get me some more of these bars!" and 
> other people saying "I got these bars but they're FUBARs!"
>
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 1:13:26 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> Eric,  The bar clamp section of my Ortho bars is much more off center 
>> than yours, and I think if I sold them to someone sight unseen, they would 
>> be justifiably PO'd. If I tried to clamp my Ortho bar in a stem, I would be 
>> tightening the stem down on the section transitioning from the 25.4mm clamp 
>> section to the 22.2 bar.
>>
>> Crust emailed me within minutes telling me to send the bars back. This 
>> must be a complete bummer for them, and I only hope they recover 
>> compensation from the manufacturer.
>>
>> I think if the shape of these bars was based on the Albatross rather than 
>> the Bosco, they would fit more bikes, and give people more choices in stem 
>> length to fit their bodies and riding positions. I think the Ortho's don't 
>> need shorter grip sections, they just need some reach, maybe 3-5cm?
>>
>> YMMV,
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:25:40 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @John & Sam: I'm sure you could easily unload those bars, even with the 
>>> asymmetry! 
>>>
>>> Now, regarding the asymmetry. I spent a bit of time looking closely at 
>>> my bars last night. When I align the Ortho Bars with a loose set of 
>>> Albatross bars with both sets facing the same way, nestled together, they 
>>> very clearly don't line up. I assume that the Nitto bars are perfectly 
>>> symmetrical given Nitto's reputation for precision. In the photo I placed 
>>> the rule centered beneath the Albatross bars. 
>>>
>>> However, when I flip the bars around into an interlocking orientation 
>>> the clamps do appear centered. There must be some inconsistency with the 
>>> rise or bends of the Ortho bars that prevents them from nestling on center 
>>> with the Albatross bars when they're both oriented the same direction. When 
>>> measuring I could not determine where the inconsistency is. 
>>>
>>> I measured my Ortho bars from outside to outside, found the center line 
>>> and measured to the left and right from there. There is a slight 
>>> inconsistency in the textured clamp area but it's about 1.2mm. Same for the 
>>> taper of the bar, which I measured with calipers. There's some 
>>> inconsistency but for handlebars it's trivial.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_8497.JPG][image: IMG_8498.JPG][image: IMG_8500.JPG]
>>>
>>>  [image: IMG_8492.JPG][image: IMG_8493.JPG]
>>> [image: IMG_8494.JPG][image: IMG_8496.JPG]
>>> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:55:43 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>>>
 I should have said I have the extinct 56cm Albatross bars which are 
 also a different shape, wider up near bend.

 John

 On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 11:30:00 PM UTC-8 
 brianmark...@gmail.com wrote:

> That’s odd. I didn’t notice anything off with mine, but now I’m 
> curious and will have to check. I think I disagree on them being not much 
> wider than Albas though.
>
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 13:13 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>I received my Ortho bars only to discover the bars are not 
>> symmetrical. Both the structural 25.4mm bar clamp section and the 
>> roughened 
>> grip section for the bar clamp are closer to the right hand side of the 
>> bars, and neither is lined up with each other.  I could live with the 
>> roughened section being a bit off, but the 25.4mm bar clamp section is 
>> way 
>> too far over to the right. I wrote Crust an email asking about a return. 
>> These bars are so wide you don't 

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Eric Marth]

John – Sorry your bars are wack! Yeah, must be a bummer for Crust with a 
ton of people saying "When ya gonna get me some more of these bars!" and 
other people saying "I got these bars but they're FUBARs!"

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 1:13:26 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:

> Eric,  The bar clamp section of my Ortho bars is much more off center than 
> yours, and I think if I sold them to someone sight unseen, they would be 
> justifiably PO'd. If I tried to clamp my Ortho bar in a stem, I would be 
> tightening the stem down on the section transitioning from the 25.4mm clamp 
> section to the 22.2 bar.
>
> Crust emailed me within minutes telling me to send the bars back. This 
> must be a complete bummer for them, and I only hope they recover 
> compensation from the manufacturer.
>
> I think if the shape of these bars was based on the Albatross rather than 
> the Bosco, they would fit more bikes, and give people more choices in stem 
> length to fit their bodies and riding positions. I think the Ortho's don't 
> need shorter grip sections, they just need some reach, maybe 3-5cm?
>
> YMMV,
>
> John
>
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:25:40 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> @John & Sam: I'm sure you could easily unload those bars, even with the 
>> asymmetry! 
>>
>> Now, regarding the asymmetry. I spent a bit of time looking closely at my 
>> bars last night. When I align the Ortho Bars with a loose set of Albatross 
>> bars with both sets facing the same way, nestled together, they very 
>> clearly don't line up. I assume that the Nitto bars are perfectly 
>> symmetrical given Nitto's reputation for precision. In the photo I placed 
>> the rule centered beneath the Albatross bars. 
>>
>> However, when I flip the bars around into an interlocking orientation the 
>> clamps do appear centered. There must be some inconsistency with the rise 
>> or bends of the Ortho bars that prevents them from nestling on center with 
>> the Albatross bars when they're both oriented the same direction. When 
>> measuring I could not determine where the inconsistency is. 
>>
>> I measured my Ortho bars from outside to outside, found the center line 
>> and measured to the left and right from there. There is a slight 
>> inconsistency in the textured clamp area but it's about 1.2mm. Same for the 
>> taper of the bar, which I measured with calipers. There's some 
>> inconsistency but for handlebars it's trivial.
>>
>> [image: IMG_8497.JPG][image: IMG_8498.JPG][image: IMG_8500.JPG]
>>
>>  [image: IMG_8492.JPG][image: IMG_8493.JPG]
>> [image: IMG_8494.JPG][image: IMG_8496.JPG]
>> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:55:43 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>>
>>> I should have said I have the extinct 56cm Albatross bars which are also 
>>> a different shape, wider up near bend.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 11:30:00 PM UTC-8 
>>> brianmark...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 That’s odd. I didn’t notice anything off with mine, but now I’m curious 
 and will have to check. I think I disagree on them being not much wider 
 than Albas though.

 On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 13:13 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>I received my Ortho bars only to discover the bars are not 
> symmetrical. Both the structural 25.4mm bar clamp section and the 
> roughened 
> grip section for the bar clamp are closer to the right hand side of the 
> bars, and neither is lined up with each other.  I could live with the 
> roughened section being a bit off, but the 25.4mm bar clamp section is 
> way 
> too far over to the right. I wrote Crust an email asking about a return. 
> These bars are so wide you don't immediately notice something is off, but 
> when I pulled out my 56mm Albatross bars to compare, I noticed the bar 
> clamp sections wouldn't line up. I was trying to measure just how much 
> stem 
> extension I was going to need to move over from my Alba's to the Ortho 
> bars, and saw something was really off.
>
>These bars are not actually a ton wider than my Alba's so I'll just 
> stick with my albatross cockpit for now.
>
> John
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:40:56 AM UTC-8 mcgr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm going to throw up a WTT thread at some point, but the Ron's Ortho 
>> bars have just a couple of inch or inch and a half too much backwards 
>> reach 
>> for my 62cm Hunqapillar (pictured here with a 120mm Technomic).  I think 
>> I'd be better off with a Billie bar.  I'm in northern NJ, work in 
>> Manhattan, if anyone would be interested in a trade...
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2022-02-10 161030.png]
>>
>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:37:30 PM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks John, maybe Ronny Romance just has a huge stack of 26mm clamp 
>>> stems from the 1990s in 

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Eric Marth]

Lucky – These were made in Taiwan, can't remember the factory. They make 
bars for one of the big companies (but can't remember who at the moment). 

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 1:15:38 PM UTC-5 Lucky wrote:

> Am I wrong that these bars were hand bent by Ron and a vise,  vs “factory 
> made”? 
>
> On Feb 17, 2022, at 10:13, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Eric,  The bar clamp section of my Ortho bars is much more off center than 
> yours, and I think if I sold them to someone sight unseen, they would be 
> justifiably PO'd. If I tried to clamp my Ortho bar in a stem, I would be 
> tightening the stem down on the section transitioning from the 25.4mm clamp 
> section to the 22.2 bar.
>
> Crust emailed me within minutes telling me to send the bars back. This 
> must be a complete bummer for them, and I only hope they recover 
> compensation from the manufacturer.
>
> I think if the shape of these bars was based on the Albatross rather than 
> the Bosco, they would fit more bikes, and give people more choices in stem 
> length to fit their bodies and riding positions. I think the Ortho's don't 
> need shorter grip sections, they just need some reach, maybe 3-5cm?
>
> YMMV,
>
> John
>
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:25:40 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> @John & Sam: I'm sure you could easily unload those bars, even with the 
>> asymmetry! 
>>
>> Now, regarding the asymmetry. I spent a bit of time looking closely at my 
>> bars last night. When I align the Ortho Bars with a loose set of Albatross 
>> bars with both sets facing the same way, nestled together, they very 
>> clearly don't line up. I assume that the Nitto bars are perfectly 
>> symmetrical given Nitto's reputation for precision. In the photo I placed 
>> the rule centered beneath the Albatross bars. 
>>
>> However, when I flip the bars around into an interlocking orientation the 
>> clamps do appear centered. There must be some inconsistency with the rise 
>> or bends of the Ortho bars that prevents them from nestling on center with 
>> the Albatross bars when they're both oriented the same direction. When 
>> measuring I could not determine where the inconsistency is. 
>>
>> I measured my Ortho bars from outside to outside, found the center line 
>> and measured to the left and right from there. There is a slight 
>> inconsistency in the textured clamp area but it's about 1.2mm. Same for the 
>> taper of the bar, which I measured with calipers. There's some 
>> inconsistency but for handlebars it's trivial.
>>
>> [image: IMG_8497.JPG][image: IMG_8498.JPG][image: IMG_8500.JPG]
>>
>>  [image: IMG_8492.JPG][image: IMG_8493.JPG]
>> [image: IMG_8494.JPG][image: IMG_8496.JPG]
>> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:55:43 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>>
>>> I should have said I have the extinct 56cm Albatross bars which are also 
>>> a different shape, wider up near bend.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 11:30:00 PM UTC-8 
>>> brianmark...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 That’s odd. I didn’t notice anything off with mine, but now I’m curious 
 and will have to check. I think I disagree on them being not much wider 
 than Albas though.

 On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 13:13 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>I received my Ortho bars only to discover the bars are not 
> symmetrical. Both the structural 25.4mm bar clamp section and the 
> roughened 
> grip section for the bar clamp are closer to the right hand side of the 
> bars, and neither is lined up with each other.  I could live with the 
> roughened section being a bit off, but the 25.4mm bar clamp section is 
> way 
> too far over to the right. I wrote Crust an email asking about a return. 
> These bars are so wide you don't immediately notice something is off, but 
> when I pulled out my 56mm Albatross bars to compare, I noticed the bar 
> clamp sections wouldn't line up. I was trying to measure just how much 
> stem 
> extension I was going to need to move over from my Alba's to the Ortho 
> bars, and saw something was really off.
>
>These bars are not actually a ton wider than my Alba's so I'll just 
> stick with my albatross cockpit for now.
>
> John
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:40:56 AM UTC-8 mcgr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm going to throw up a WTT thread at some point, but the Ron's Ortho 
>> bars have just a couple of inch or inch and a half too much backwards 
>> reach 
>> for my 62cm Hunqapillar (pictured here with a 120mm Technomic).  I think 
>> I'd be better off with a Billie bar.  I'm in northern NJ, work in 
>> Manhattan, if anyone would be interested in a trade...
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2022-02-10 161030.png]
>>
>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:37:30 PM UTC-5 

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[luckyturnip]

Am I wrong that these bars were hand bent by Ron and a vise,  vs “factory 
made”? 

> On Feb 17, 2022, at 10:13, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Eric,  The bar clamp section of my Ortho bars is much more off center than 
> yours, and I think if I sold them to someone sight unseen, they would be 
> justifiably PO'd. If I tried to clamp my Ortho bar in a stem, I would be 
> tightening the stem down on the section transitioning from the 25.4mm clamp 
> section to the 22.2 bar.
> 
> Crust emailed me within minutes telling me to send the bars back. This must 
> be a complete bummer for them, and I only hope they recover compensation from 
> the manufacturer.
> 
> I think if the shape of these bars was based on the Albatross rather than the 
> Bosco, they would fit more bikes, and give people more choices in stem length 
> to fit their bodies and riding positions. I think the Ortho's don't need 
> shorter grip sections, they just need some reach, maybe 3-5cm?
> 
> YMMV,
> 
> John
> 
>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:25:40 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>> @John & Sam: I'm sure you could easily unload those bars, even with the 
>> asymmetry! 
>> 
>> Now, regarding the asymmetry. I spent a bit of time looking closely at my 
>> bars last night. When I align the Ortho Bars with a loose set of Albatross 
>> bars with both sets facing the same way, nestled together, they very clearly 
>> don't line up. I assume that the Nitto bars are perfectly symmetrical given 
>> Nitto's reputation for precision. In the photo I placed the rule centered 
>> beneath the Albatross bars. 
>> 
>> However, when I flip the bars around into an interlocking orientation the 
>> clamps do appear centered. There must be some inconsistency with the rise or 
>> bends of the Ortho bars that prevents them from nestling on center with the 
>> Albatross bars when they're both oriented the same direction. When measuring 
>> I could not determine where the inconsistency is. 
>> 
>> I measured my Ortho bars from outside to outside, found the center line and 
>> measured to the left and right from there. There is a slight inconsistency 
>> in the textured clamp area but it's about 1.2mm. Same for the taper of the 
>> bar, which I measured with calipers. There's some inconsistency but for 
>> handlebars it's trivial.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:55:43 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>>> I should have said I have the extinct 56cm Albatross bars which are also a 
>>> different shape, wider up near bend.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
 On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 11:30:00 PM UTC-8 brianmark...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 That’s odd. I didn’t notice anything off with mine, but now I’m curious 
 and will have to check. I think I disagree on them being not much wider 
 than Albas though.
 
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 13:13 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
>I received my Ortho bars only to discover the bars are not 
> symmetrical. Both the structural 25.4mm bar clamp section and the 
> roughened grip section for the bar clamp are closer to the right hand 
> side of the bars, and neither is lined up with each other.  I could live 
> with the roughened section being a bit off, but the 25.4mm bar clamp 
> section is way too far over to the right. I wrote Crust an email asking 
> about a return. These bars are so wide you don't immediately notice 
> something is off, but when I pulled out my 56mm Albatross bars to 
> compare, I noticed the bar clamp sections wouldn't line up. I was trying 
> to measure just how much stem extension I was going to need to move over 
> from my Alba's to the Ortho bars, and saw something was really off.
> 
>These bars are not actually a ton wider than my Alba's so I'll just 
> stick with my albatross cockpit for now.
> 
> John
> 
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:40:56 AM UTC-8 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I'm going to throw up a WTT thread at some point, but the Ron's Ortho 
>> bars have just a couple of inch or inch and a half too much backwards 
>> reach for my 62cm Hunqapillar (pictured here with a 120mm Technomic).  I 
>> think I'd be better off with a Billie bar.  I'm in northern NJ, work in 
>> Manhattan, if anyone would be interested in a trade...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:37:30 PM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>> Thanks John, maybe Ronny Romance just has a huge stack of 26mm clamp 
>>> stems from the 1990s in his parts stash :-)
>>> 
>>> I bought a used Clem H in April 2021 and built it with a set of steel 
>>> Ergotec Beach cruiser bars because they were the only thing
>>> I could find that looked even little a bit like the Ortho bars. I 
>>> really love the range of positions, and the sweep is much more natural 
>>> than flat mtb bars. Not so keen 

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

['John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Eric,  The bar clamp section of my Ortho bars is much more off center than 
yours, and I think if I sold them to someone sight unseen, they would be 
justifiably PO'd. If I tried to clamp my Ortho bar in a stem, I would be 
tightening the stem down on the section transitioning from the 25.4mm clamp 
section to the 22.2 bar.

Crust emailed me within minutes telling me to send the bars back. This must 
be a complete bummer for them, and I only hope they recover compensation 
from the manufacturer.

I think if the shape of these bars was based on the Albatross rather than 
the Bosco, they would fit more bikes, and give people more choices in stem 
length to fit their bodies and riding positions. I think the Ortho's don't 
need shorter grip sections, they just need some reach, maybe 3-5cm?

YMMV,

John

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:25:40 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> @John & Sam: I'm sure you could easily unload those bars, even with the 
> asymmetry! 
>
> Now, regarding the asymmetry. I spent a bit of time looking closely at my 
> bars last night. When I align the Ortho Bars with a loose set of Albatross 
> bars with both sets facing the same way, nestled together, they very 
> clearly don't line up. I assume that the Nitto bars are perfectly 
> symmetrical given Nitto's reputation for precision. In the photo I placed 
> the rule centered beneath the Albatross bars. 
>
> However, when I flip the bars around into an interlocking orientation the 
> clamps do appear centered. There must be some inconsistency with the rise 
> or bends of the Ortho bars that prevents them from nestling on center with 
> the Albatross bars when they're both oriented the same direction. When 
> measuring I could not determine where the inconsistency is. 
>
> I measured my Ortho bars from outside to outside, found the center line 
> and measured to the left and right from there. There is a slight 
> inconsistency in the textured clamp area but it's about 1.2mm. Same for the 
> taper of the bar, which I measured with calipers. There's some 
> inconsistency but for handlebars it's trivial.
>
> [image: IMG_8497.JPG][image: IMG_8498.JPG][image: IMG_8500.JPG]
>
>  [image: IMG_8492.JPG][image: IMG_8493.JPG]
> [image: IMG_8494.JPG][image: IMG_8496.JPG]
> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:55:43 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> I should have said I have the extinct 56cm Albatross bars which are also 
>> a different shape, wider up near bend.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 11:30:00 PM UTC-8 brianmark...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That’s odd. I didn’t notice anything off with mine, but now I’m curious 
>>> and will have to check. I think I disagree on them being not much wider 
>>> than Albas though.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 13:13 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
I received my Ortho bars only to discover the bars are not 
 symmetrical. Both the structural 25.4mm bar clamp section and the 
 roughened 
 grip section for the bar clamp are closer to the right hand side of the 
 bars, and neither is lined up with each other.  I could live with the 
 roughened section being a bit off, but the 25.4mm bar clamp section is way 
 too far over to the right. I wrote Crust an email asking about a return. 
 These bars are so wide you don't immediately notice something is off, but 
 when I pulled out my 56mm Albatross bars to compare, I noticed the bar 
 clamp sections wouldn't line up. I was trying to measure just how much 
 stem 
 extension I was going to need to move over from my Alba's to the Ortho 
 bars, and saw something was really off.

These bars are not actually a ton wider than my Alba's so I'll just 
 stick with my albatross cockpit for now.

 John

 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:40:56 AM UTC-8 mcgr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I'm going to throw up a WTT thread at some point, but the Ron's Ortho 
> bars have just a couple of inch or inch and a half too much backwards 
> reach 
> for my 62cm Hunqapillar (pictured here with a 120mm Technomic).  I think 
> I'd be better off with a Billie bar.  I'm in northern NJ, work in 
> Manhattan, if anyone would be interested in a trade...
>
> [image: Screenshot 2022-02-10 161030.png]
>
> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:37:30 PM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks John, maybe Ronny Romance just has a huge stack of 26mm clamp 
>> stems from the 1990s in his parts stash :-)
>>
>> I bought a used Clem H in April 2021 and built it with a set of steel 
>> Ergotec Beach cruiser bars because they were the only thing
>> I could find that looked even little a bit like the Ortho bars. I 
>> really love the range of positions, and the sweep is much more natural 
>> than 
>> flat mtb bars. Not so keen on the 880g weight though...
>>

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Patch T]

Hey JP - I think photographing with a *severe cross-chain* looks cool, in a 
silly, laughing-in-the-face-of-danger-but-not-really sort of way. And I 
know you're not *supposed* to, but I sometimes (read: frequently) ride with 
the chain crossed like that anyway, so long as the chain clears the front 
derailleur and the rear can take it and feels/sounds like it's not dying a 
slow torturous death. Also, I think SRAM has gone on record saying they're 
less concerned about cross-chaining than say, Shimano and Campagnolo. 

Patch,
who's living on the (jockey wheels') edge in BK, NYC



On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 9:38:51 PM UTC-5 MoVelo wrote:

> I'm curious, and I know I have seen this in numerous bike photos before, 
> but why is the chain so severely cross chained. That being the big cassette 
> cog in the back and big ring in the front? Is there a convention for 
> photographing bikes that I am unaware of, or do most folks cross-chain like 
> this and I am missing out on the pleasure by lack of education?
> Now I could be totally misunderstanding the photo, but with my eyes and 
> the resolution of the digital photo is looks as tho the outside (ie largest 
> ring) is in fact a guard and not a toothed chainring. Am I wrong and the 
> chain is in fact on the middle chainring? 
> I am not trying to be critical, just trying to understand why I seem to 
> see this setup in so many seemingly staged photos. Do most folks ride their 
> bikes in this fashion?
> Just curious. 
>
> JP
>
>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:40:56 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm going to throw up a WTT thread at some point, but the Ron's Ortho 
>>> bars have just a couple of inch or inch and a half too much backwards reach 
>>> for my 62cm Hunqapillar (pictured here with a 120mm Technomic).  I think 
>>> I'd be better off with a Billie bar.  I'm in northern NJ, work in 
>>> Manhattan, if anyone would be interested in a trade...
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-02-10 161030.png]
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

['John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I should have said I have the extinct 56cm Albatross bars which are also a 
different shape, wider up near bend.

John

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 11:30:00 PM UTC-8 brianmark...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> That’s odd. I didn’t notice anything off with mine, but now I’m curious 
> and will have to check. I think I disagree on them being not much wider 
> than Albas though.
>
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 13:13 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>I received my Ortho bars only to discover the bars are not 
>> symmetrical. Both the structural 25.4mm bar clamp section and the roughened 
>> grip section for the bar clamp are closer to the right hand side of the 
>> bars, and neither is lined up with each other.  I could live with the 
>> roughened section being a bit off, but the 25.4mm bar clamp section is way 
>> too far over to the right. I wrote Crust an email asking about a return. 
>> These bars are so wide you don't immediately notice something is off, but 
>> when I pulled out my 56mm Albatross bars to compare, I noticed the bar 
>> clamp sections wouldn't line up. I was trying to measure just how much stem 
>> extension I was going to need to move over from my Alba's to the Ortho 
>> bars, and saw something was really off.
>>
>>These bars are not actually a ton wider than my Alba's so I'll just 
>> stick with my albatross cockpit for now.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:40:56 AM UTC-8 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I'm going to throw up a WTT thread at some point, but the Ron's Ortho 
>>> bars have just a couple of inch or inch and a half too much backwards reach 
>>> for my 62cm Hunqapillar (pictured here with a 120mm Technomic).  I think 
>>> I'd be better off with a Billie bar.  I'm in northern NJ, work in 
>>> Manhattan, if anyone would be interested in a trade...
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-02-10 161030.png]
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:37:30 PM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks John, maybe Ronny Romance just has a huge stack of 26mm clamp 
 stems from the 1990s in his parts stash :-)

 I bought a used Clem H in April 2021 and built it with a set of steel 
 Ergotec Beach cruiser bars because they were the only thing
 I could find that looked even little a bit like the Ortho bars. I 
 really love the range of positions, and the sweep is much more natural 
 than 
 flat mtb bars. Not so keen on the 880g weight though...

 Cheers,
 John


 On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 20:05, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Eric, 
>I tried out a 120mm Technomic Deluxe and a 120mm Pearl for initial 
> fit, and I liked the little bit of extra reach the Pearl gives me. A 
> Nitto 
> Pearl stem sunk all the way down in my Hunqapillar's short head tube 
> still 
> puts these bars about 8 cm's above my saddle.
>
> For some reason, Nitto measures the Pearl differently than the 
> Technomic Deluxe and the Pearl is about 8-9mm longer. Why? I don't know.
>
> So if I decide later I need to raise these bars a bit higher, I think 
> I'm going to need that one extra centimeter of the 130mm Technomic Deluxe.
>
>
> Hi Johnny,  
>Most handlebars Crust sells are 26mm or 31.8mm, maybe that's why? 
> Could strength be a factor?  Fingers crossed Crust starts to stock some 
> 120-130mm stems for these bars. 
>
> I think the demand for these bars caught Crust & Uncle Ron completely 
> off guard.  Back in February 2021, when I emailed Uncle Ron with 
> questions 
> about a photo of what looked like giant, mutant Albatross bars on his 
> Atlantis(?), he answered, "congrats on being the only person 
> interested in my ortho back bars lol. it's a state of mind... "
>
> But then Crust put up those Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Back Bars 
> Sesion#1-#3 ride videos up on Youtube, and Uncle Ron posted Instagram 
> photos, and they created a monster.
>
> John
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 4:22:13 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
>> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
>> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 
>>
>> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
>> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
>> 'em here 
>> 
>> . 
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm 
>>> quill, but it looks like I'll have to use a 

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[sam . perez . 2002]

My bars are also off center .

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 15, 2022, at 11:29 PM, Brian McDermott  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> That’s odd. I didn’t notice anything off with mine, but now I’m curious and 
> will have to check. I think I disagree on them being not much wider than 
> Albas though.
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 13:13 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>  wrote:
>>I received my Ortho bars only to discover the bars are not symmetrical. 
>> Both the structural 25.4mm bar clamp section and the roughened grip section 
>> for the bar clamp are closer to the right hand side of the bars, and neither 
>> is lined up with each other.  I could live with the roughened section being 
>> a bit off, but the 25.4mm bar clamp section is way too far over to the 
>> right. I wrote Crust an email asking about a return. These bars are so wide 
>> you don't immediately notice something is off, but when I pulled out my 56mm 
>> Albatross bars to compare, I noticed the bar clamp sections wouldn't line 
>> up. I was trying to measure just how much stem extension I was going to need 
>> to move over from my Alba's to the Ortho bars, and saw something was really 
>> off.
>> 
>>These bars are not actually a ton wider than my Alba's so I'll just stick 
>> with my albatross cockpit for now.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:40:56 AM UTC-8 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I'm going to throw up a WTT thread at some point, but the Ron's Ortho bars 
>>> have just a couple of inch or inch and a half too much backwards reach for 
>>> my 62cm Hunqapillar (pictured here with a 120mm Technomic).  I think I'd be 
>>> better off with a Billie bar.  I'm in northern NJ, work in Manhattan, if 
>>> anyone would be interested in a trade...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:37:30 PM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks John, maybe Ronny Romance just has a huge stack of 26mm clamp stems 
 from the 1990s in his parts stash :-)
 
 I bought a used Clem H in April 2021 and built it with a set of steel 
 Ergotec Beach cruiser bars because they were the only thing
 I could find that looked even little a bit like the Ortho bars. I really 
 love the range of positions, and the sweep is much more natural than flat 
 mtb bars. Not so keen on the 880g weight though...
 
 Cheers,
 John
 
 
> On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 20:05, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> Eric, 
>I tried out a 120mm Technomic Deluxe and a 120mm Pearl for initial 
> fit, and I liked the little bit of extra reach the Pearl gives me. A 
> Nitto Pearl stem sunk all the way down in my Hunqapillar's short head 
> tube still puts these bars about 8 cm's above my saddle.
> 
> For some reason, Nitto measures the Pearl differently than the Technomic 
> Deluxe and the Pearl is about 8-9mm longer. Why? I don't know.
> 
> So if I decide later I need to raise these bars a bit higher, I think I'm 
> going to need that one extra centimeter of the 130mm Technomic Deluxe.
> 
> 
> Hi Johnny,  
>Most handlebars Crust sells are 26mm or 31.8mm, maybe that's why? 
> Could strength be a factor?  Fingers crossed Crust starts to stock some 
> 120-130mm stems for these bars. 
> 
> I think the demand for these bars caught Crust & Uncle Ron completely off 
> guard.  Back in February 2021, when I emailed Uncle Ron with questions 
> about a photo of what looked like giant, mutant Albatross bars on his 
> Atlantis(?), he answered, "congrats on being the only person interested 
> in my ortho back bars lol. it's a state of mind... "
> 
> But then Crust put up those Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Back Bars Sesion#1-#3 
> ride videos up on Youtube, and Uncle Ron posted Instagram photos, and 
> they created a monster.
> 
> John
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 4:22:13 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
>> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
>> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 
>> 
>> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
>> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
>> 'em here. 
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill, 
>>> but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I 
>>> don't need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
 On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
 Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
 attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
 putting 

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Brian McDermott]

That’s odd. I didn’t notice anything off with mine, but now I’m curious and
will have to check. I think I disagree on them being not much wider than
Albas though.

On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 13:13 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>I received my Ortho bars only to discover the bars are not symmetrical.
> Both the structural 25.4mm bar clamp section and the roughened grip section
> for the bar clamp are closer to the right hand side of the bars, and
> neither is lined up with each other.  I could live with the roughened
> section being a bit off, but the 25.4mm bar clamp section is way too far
> over to the right. I wrote Crust an email asking about a return. These bars
> are so wide you don't immediately notice something is off, but when I
> pulled out my 56mm Albatross bars to compare, I noticed the bar clamp
> sections wouldn't line up. I was trying to measure just how much stem
> extension I was going to need to move over from my Alba's to the Ortho
> bars, and saw something was really off.
>
>These bars are not actually a ton wider than my Alba's so I'll just
> stick with my albatross cockpit for now.
>
> John
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:40:56 AM UTC-8 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm going to throw up a WTT thread at some point, but the Ron's Ortho
>> bars have just a couple of inch or inch and a half too much backwards reach
>> for my 62cm Hunqapillar (pictured here with a 120mm Technomic).  I think
>> I'd be better off with a Billie bar.  I'm in northern NJ, work in
>> Manhattan, if anyone would be interested in a trade...
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2022-02-10 161030.png]
>>
>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:37:30 PM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks John, maybe Ronny Romance just has a huge stack of 26mm clamp
>>> stems from the 1990s in his parts stash :-)
>>>
>>> I bought a used Clem H in April 2021 and built it with a set of steel
>>> Ergotec Beach cruiser bars because they were the only thing
>>> I could find that looked even little a bit like the Ortho bars. I really
>>> love the range of positions, and the sweep is much more natural than flat
>>> mtb bars. Not so keen on the 880g weight though...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 20:05, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 Eric,
I tried out a 120mm Technomic Deluxe and a 120mm Pearl for initial
 fit, and I liked the little bit of extra reach the Pearl gives me. A Nitto
 Pearl stem sunk all the way down in my Hunqapillar's short head tube still
 puts these bars about 8 cm's above my saddle.

 For some reason, Nitto measures the Pearl differently than the
 Technomic Deluxe and the Pearl is about 8-9mm longer. Why? I don't know.

 So if I decide later I need to raise these bars a bit higher, I think
 I'm going to need that one extra centimeter of the 130mm Technomic Deluxe.


 Hi Johnny,
Most handlebars Crust sells are 26mm or 31.8mm, maybe that's why?
 Could strength be a factor?  Fingers crossed Crust starts to stock some
 120-130mm stems for these bars.

 I think the demand for these bars caught Crust & Uncle Ron completely
 off guard.  Back in February 2021, when I emailed Uncle Ron with questions
 about a photo of what looked like giant, mutant Albatross bars on his
 Atlantis(?), he answered, "congrats on being the only person
 interested in my ortho back bars lol. it's a state of mind... "

 But then Crust put up those Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Back Bars
 Sesion#1-#3 ride videos up on Youtube, and Uncle Ron posted Instagram
 photos, and they created a monster.

 John
 On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 4:22:13 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain
> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you
> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits).
>
> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic
> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check
> 'em here
> 
> .
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill,
>> but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I 
>> don't
>> need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I
>>> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
>>> putting
>>> it together. A 

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[James M]

Hi, JP.  Yep - my Hunq has a triple crankset with the outer ring replaced 
by a guard, so chain is on the "middle" ring in front.  I'm not great at 
bike photos, although tried a little harder than usual for my first Riv 
photos - but I had also just finished the exhausting climb up to the top of 
the Reservation, so might not have been firing on all cylinders and just 
took the shots in the gear I was in ;)

James

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 9:38:51 PM UTC-5 MoVelo wrote:

> I'm curious, and I know I have seen this in numerous bike photos before, 
> but why is the chain so severely cross chained. That being the big cassette 
> cog in the back and big ring in the front? Is there a convention for 
> photographing bikes that I am unaware of, or do most folks cross-chain like 
> this and I am missing out on the pleasure by lack of education?
> Now I could be totally misunderstanding the photo, but with my eyes and 
> the resolution of the digital photo is looks as tho the outside (ie largest 
> ring) is in fact a guard and not a toothed chainring. Am I wrong and the 
> chain is in fact on the middle chainring? 
> I am not trying to be critical, just trying to understand why I seem to 
> see this setup in so many seemingly staged photos. Do most folks ride their 
> bikes in this fashion?
> Just curious. 
>
> JP
>
> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:13:07 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @James: Have you considered trimming the bars a little shorter? Not the 
>> craziest thing in the world, people modify bars like this all the time. 
>>
>> You might be able to find a pipe cutter for under $20 at your local 
>> hardware store. Would be good to practice on a scrap piece of pipe first! 
>> Or use a hacksaw. File the ends either way. 
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-15 at 7.11.37 PM.png]
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:40:56 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm going to throw up a WTT thread at some point, but the Ron's Ortho 
>>> bars have just a couple of inch or inch and a half too much backwards reach 
>>> for my 62cm Hunqapillar (pictured here with a 120mm Technomic).  I think 
>>> I'd be better off with a Billie bar.  I'm in northern NJ, work in 
>>> Manhattan, if anyone would be interested in a trade...
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-02-10 161030.png]
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:37:30 PM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks John, maybe Ronny Romance just has a huge stack of 26mm clamp 
 stems from the 1990s in his parts stash :-)

 I bought a used Clem H in April 2021 and built it with a set of steel 
 Ergotec Beach cruiser bars because they were the only thing
 I could find that looked even little a bit like the Ortho bars. I 
 really love the range of positions, and the sweep is much more natural 
 than 
 flat mtb bars. Not so keen on the 880g weight though...

 Cheers,
 John


 On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 20:05, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Eric, 
>I tried out a 120mm Technomic Deluxe and a 120mm Pearl for initial 
> fit, and I liked the little bit of extra reach the Pearl gives me. A 
> Nitto 
> Pearl stem sunk all the way down in my Hunqapillar's short head tube 
> still 
> puts these bars about 8 cm's above my saddle.
>
> For some reason, Nitto measures the Pearl differently than the 
> Technomic Deluxe and the Pearl is about 8-9mm longer. Why? I don't know.
>
> So if I decide later I need to raise these bars a bit higher, I think 
> I'm going to need that one extra centimeter of the 130mm Technomic Deluxe.
>
>
> Hi Johnny,  
>Most handlebars Crust sells are 26mm or 31.8mm, maybe that's why? 
> Could strength be a factor?  Fingers crossed Crust starts to stock some 
> 120-130mm stems for these bars. 
>
> I think the demand for these bars caught Crust & Uncle Ron completely 
> off guard.  Back in February 2021, when I emailed Uncle Ron with 
> questions 
> about a photo of what looked like giant, mutant Albatross bars on his 
> Atlantis(?), he answered, "congrats on being the only person 
> interested in my ortho back bars lol. it's a state of mind... "
>
> But then Crust put up those Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Back Bars 
> Sesion#1-#3 ride videos up on Youtube, and Uncle Ron posted Instagram 
> photos, and they created a monster.
>
> John
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 4:22:13 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
>> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
>> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 
>>
>> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
>> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide 

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[MoVelo]

I'm curious, and I know I have seen this in numerous bike photos before, 
but why is the chain so severely cross chained. That being the big cassette 
cog in the back and big ring in the front? Is there a convention for 
photographing bikes that I am unaware of, or do most folks cross-chain like 
this and I am missing out on the pleasure by lack of education?
Now I could be totally misunderstanding the photo, but with my eyes and the 
resolution of the digital photo is looks as tho the outside (ie largest 
ring) is in fact a guard and not a toothed chainring. Am I wrong and the 
chain is in fact on the middle chainring? 
I am not trying to be critical, just trying to understand why I seem to see 
this setup in so many seemingly staged photos. Do most folks ride their 
bikes in this fashion?
Just curious. 

JP

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:13:07 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> @James: Have you considered trimming the bars a little shorter? Not the 
> craziest thing in the world, people modify bars like this all the time. 
>
> You might be able to find a pipe cutter for under $20 at your local 
> hardware store. Would be good to practice on a scrap piece of pipe first! 
> Or use a hacksaw. File the ends either way. 
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-15 at 7.11.37 PM.png]
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:40:56 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm going to throw up a WTT thread at some point, but the Ron's Ortho 
>> bars have just a couple of inch or inch and a half too much backwards reach 
>> for my 62cm Hunqapillar (pictured here with a 120mm Technomic).  I think 
>> I'd be better off with a Billie bar.  I'm in northern NJ, work in 
>> Manhattan, if anyone would be interested in a trade...
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2022-02-10 161030.png]
>>
>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:37:30 PM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks John, maybe Ronny Romance just has a huge stack of 26mm clamp 
>>> stems from the 1990s in his parts stash :-)
>>>
>>> I bought a used Clem H in April 2021 and built it with a set of steel 
>>> Ergotec Beach cruiser bars because they were the only thing
>>> I could find that looked even little a bit like the Ortho bars. I really 
>>> love the range of positions, and the sweep is much more natural than flat 
>>> mtb bars. Not so keen on the 880g weight though...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 20:05, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 Eric, 
I tried out a 120mm Technomic Deluxe and a 120mm Pearl for initial 
 fit, and I liked the little bit of extra reach the Pearl gives me. A Nitto 
 Pearl stem sunk all the way down in my Hunqapillar's short head tube still 
 puts these bars about 8 cm's above my saddle.

 For some reason, Nitto measures the Pearl differently than the 
 Technomic Deluxe and the Pearl is about 8-9mm longer. Why? I don't know.

 So if I decide later I need to raise these bars a bit higher, I think 
 I'm going to need that one extra centimeter of the 130mm Technomic Deluxe.


 Hi Johnny,  
Most handlebars Crust sells are 26mm or 31.8mm, maybe that's why? 
 Could strength be a factor?  Fingers crossed Crust starts to stock some 
 120-130mm stems for these bars. 

 I think the demand for these bars caught Crust & Uncle Ron completely 
 off guard.  Back in February 2021, when I emailed Uncle Ron with questions 
 about a photo of what looked like giant, mutant Albatross bars on his 
 Atlantis(?), he answered, "congrats on being the only person 
 interested in my ortho back bars lol. it's a state of mind... "

 But then Crust put up those Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Back Bars 
 Sesion#1-#3 ride videos up on Youtube, and Uncle Ron posted Instagram 
 photos, and they created a monster.

 John
 On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 4:22:13 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 
>
> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
> 'em here 
> 
> . 
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill, 
>> but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I 
>> don't 
>> need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, 

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Eric Marth]

That is a sick Nishiki, love the saddle, pedals and thumb shifters *and *those 
massive 80s brake levers!

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 1:12:55 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:

>I received my Ortho bars only to discover the bars are not symmetrical. 
> Both the structural 25.4mm bar clamp section and the roughened grip section 
> for the bar clamp are closer to the right hand side of the bars, and 
> neither is lined up with each other.  I could live with the roughened 
> section being a bit off, but the 25.4mm bar clamp section is way too far 
> over to the right. I wrote Crust an email asking about a return. These bars 
> are so wide you don't immediately notice something is off, but when I 
> pulled out my 56mm Albatross bars to compare, I noticed the bar clamp 
> sections wouldn't line up. I was trying to measure just how much stem 
> extension I was going to need to move over from my Alba's to the Ortho 
> bars, and saw something was really off.
>
>These bars are not actually a ton wider than my Alba's so I'll just 
> stick with my albatross cockpit for now.
>
> John
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:40:56 AM UTC-8 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm going to throw up a WTT thread at some point, but the Ron's Ortho 
>> bars have just a couple of inch or inch and a half too much backwards reach 
>> for my 62cm Hunqapillar (pictured here with a 120mm Technomic).  I think 
>> I'd be better off with a Billie bar.  I'm in northern NJ, work in 
>> Manhattan, if anyone would be interested in a trade...
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2022-02-10 161030.png]
>>
>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:37:30 PM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks John, maybe Ronny Romance just has a huge stack of 26mm clamp 
>>> stems from the 1990s in his parts stash :-)
>>>
>>> I bought a used Clem H in April 2021 and built it with a set of steel 
>>> Ergotec Beach cruiser bars because they were the only thing
>>> I could find that looked even little a bit like the Ortho bars. I really 
>>> love the range of positions, and the sweep is much more natural than flat 
>>> mtb bars. Not so keen on the 880g weight though...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 20:05, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 Eric, 
I tried out a 120mm Technomic Deluxe and a 120mm Pearl for initial 
 fit, and I liked the little bit of extra reach the Pearl gives me. A Nitto 
 Pearl stem sunk all the way down in my Hunqapillar's short head tube still 
 puts these bars about 8 cm's above my saddle.

 For some reason, Nitto measures the Pearl differently than the 
 Technomic Deluxe and the Pearl is about 8-9mm longer. Why? I don't know.

 So if I decide later I need to raise these bars a bit higher, I think 
 I'm going to need that one extra centimeter of the 130mm Technomic Deluxe.


 Hi Johnny,  
Most handlebars Crust sells are 26mm or 31.8mm, maybe that's why? 
 Could strength be a factor?  Fingers crossed Crust starts to stock some 
 120-130mm stems for these bars. 

 I think the demand for these bars caught Crust & Uncle Ron completely 
 off guard.  Back in February 2021, when I emailed Uncle Ron with questions 
 about a photo of what looked like giant, mutant Albatross bars on his 
 Atlantis(?), he answered, "congrats on being the only person 
 interested in my ortho back bars lol. it's a state of mind... "

 But then Crust put up those Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Back Bars 
 Sesion#1-#3 ride videos up on Youtube, and Uncle Ron posted Instagram 
 photos, and they created a monster.

 John
 On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 4:22:13 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 
>
> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
> 'em here 
> 
> . 
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill, 
>> but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I 
>> don't 
>> need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
>>> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
>>> putting 
>>> it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I 

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

['John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch]

   I received my Ortho bars only to discover the bars are not symmetrical. 
Both the structural 25.4mm bar clamp section and the roughened grip section 
for the bar clamp are closer to the right hand side of the bars, and 
neither is lined up with each other.  I could live with the roughened 
section being a bit off, but the 25.4mm bar clamp section is way too far 
over to the right. I wrote Crust an email asking about a return. These bars 
are so wide you don't immediately notice something is off, but when I 
pulled out my 56mm Albatross bars to compare, I noticed the bar clamp 
sections wouldn't line up. I was trying to measure just how much stem 
extension I was going to need to move over from my Alba's to the Ortho 
bars, and saw something was really off.

   These bars are not actually a ton wider than my Alba's so I'll just 
stick with my albatross cockpit for now.

John

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:40:56 AM UTC-8 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm going to throw up a WTT thread at some point, but the Ron's Ortho bars 
> have just a couple of inch or inch and a half too much backwards reach for 
> my 62cm Hunqapillar (pictured here with a 120mm Technomic).  I think I'd be 
> better off with a Billie bar.  I'm in northern NJ, work in Manhattan, if 
> anyone would be interested in a trade...
>
> [image: Screenshot 2022-02-10 161030.png]
>
> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:37:30 PM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks John, maybe Ronny Romance just has a huge stack of 26mm clamp 
>> stems from the 1990s in his parts stash :-)
>>
>> I bought a used Clem H in April 2021 and built it with a set of steel 
>> Ergotec Beach cruiser bars because they were the only thing
>> I could find that looked even little a bit like the Ortho bars. I really 
>> love the range of positions, and the sweep is much more natural than flat 
>> mtb bars. Not so keen on the 880g weight though...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 20:05, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Eric, 
>>>I tried out a 120mm Technomic Deluxe and a 120mm Pearl for initial 
>>> fit, and I liked the little bit of extra reach the Pearl gives me. A Nitto 
>>> Pearl stem sunk all the way down in my Hunqapillar's short head tube still 
>>> puts these bars about 8 cm's above my saddle.
>>>
>>> For some reason, Nitto measures the Pearl differently than the Technomic 
>>> Deluxe and the Pearl is about 8-9mm longer. Why? I don't know.
>>>
>>> So if I decide later I need to raise these bars a bit higher, I think 
>>> I'm going to need that one extra centimeter of the 130mm Technomic Deluxe.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Johnny,  
>>>Most handlebars Crust sells are 26mm or 31.8mm, maybe that's why? 
>>> Could strength be a factor?  Fingers crossed Crust starts to stock some 
>>> 120-130mm stems for these bars. 
>>>
>>> I think the demand for these bars caught Crust & Uncle Ron completely 
>>> off guard.  Back in February 2021, when I emailed Uncle Ron with questions 
>>> about a photo of what looked like giant, mutant Albatross bars on his 
>>> Atlantis(?), he answered, "congrats on being the only person interested 
>>> in my ortho back bars lol. it's a state of mind... "
>>>
>>> But then Crust put up those Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Back Bars Sesion#1-#3 
>>> ride videos up on Youtube, and Uncle Ron posted Instagram photos, and they 
>>> created a monster.
>>>
>>> John
>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 4:22:13 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
 upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
 with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 

 John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
 deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
 'em here 
 
 . 

 On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:

> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill, 
> but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I 
> don't 
> need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>
> John
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>
>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
>> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
>> putting 
>> it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I don't 
>> know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I 
>> assumed 
>> that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem 
>> adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the 
>> aesthetics. 
>> I'm not a huge dude and 

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Eric Marth]

@johnsqual: Here's some clamp size info

[image: Screen Shot 2022-02-11 at 7.01.02 AM.png]

On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 11:53:32 AM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> Does anyone know why they went for a 26mm clamp rather than 25.4mm? It 
> seems like there's much more choice
> in 25.4mm stems (either ahead or quill). 25.4mm would go nicely with a 
> Nitto V-4 or V-5, then there's much less worry about slipping.
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
> On Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 01:22:13 UTC+1 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
>> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
>> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 
>>
>> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
>> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
>> 'em here 
>> 
>> . 
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>>
>>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill, 
>>> but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I don't 
>>> need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>>
 Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
 attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished putting 
 it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I don't 
 know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I assumed 
 that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem 
 adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the aesthetics. 
 I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with the 
 Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.

 Bones
 On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them 
> along? Because I’m in! Haha
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 
>>
>> That gave me a chuckle.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I seem 
>>> to recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction compound to 
>>> the 
>>> stem. Oh, I found it. 
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:
>>>
 I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted it 
 on a 4 bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 

 And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?

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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Eric Marth]

@John Phillips: Regarding availability it seems that a number of the 
manufacturing problems we're seeing everywhere have collided for Crust as 
well. 

They made a pretty small order before the bike boom, couldn't predict the 
demand, only half their order arrived (~90 bars), the order was very late, 
plenty of time for >90 people to get excited about the bars. Given issues 
with global shipping, sourcing raw materials and the fact that much bigger 
companies than Crust are having their bars made at the same factory in 
Taiwan and that there's now a lead time of 18 months to get more of them 
made we have derived grandma's secret recipe for Gosh Darn I Just Want When 
I Want It Why Can't I Have It Now double chocolate cake. 

There's a discussion including commentary from Dr. Ron, MD in the comments 
section of this Radavist post 

.
On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:37:30 PM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks John, maybe Ronny Romance just has a huge stack of 26mm clamp stems 
> from the 1990s in his parts stash :-)
>
> I bought a used Clem H in April 2021 and built it with a set of steel 
> Ergotec Beach cruiser bars because they were the only thing
> I could find that looked even little a bit like the Ortho bars. I really 
> love the range of positions, and the sweep is much more natural than flat 
> mtb bars. Not so keen on the 880g weight though...
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
>
> On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 20:05, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Eric, 
>>I tried out a 120mm Technomic Deluxe and a 120mm Pearl for initial 
>> fit, and I liked the little bit of extra reach the Pearl gives me. A Nitto 
>> Pearl stem sunk all the way down in my Hunqapillar's short head tube still 
>> puts these bars about 8 cm's above my saddle.
>>
>> For some reason, Nitto measures the Pearl differently than the Technomic 
>> Deluxe and the Pearl is about 8-9mm longer. Why? I don't know.
>>
>> So if I decide later I need to raise these bars a bit higher, I think I'm 
>> going to need that one extra centimeter of the 130mm Technomic Deluxe.
>>
>>
>> Hi Johnny,  
>>Most handlebars Crust sells are 26mm or 31.8mm, maybe that's why? 
>> Could strength be a factor?  Fingers crossed Crust starts to stock some 
>> 120-130mm stems for these bars. 
>>
>> I think the demand for these bars caught Crust & Uncle Ron completely off 
>> guard.  Back in February 2021, when I emailed Uncle Ron with questions 
>> about a photo of what looked like giant, mutant Albatross bars on his 
>> Atlantis(?), he answered, "congrats on being the only person interested 
>> in my ortho back bars lol. it's a state of mind... "
>>
>> But then Crust put up those Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Back Bars Sesion#1-#3 
>> ride videos up on Youtube, and Uncle Ron posted Instagram photos, and they 
>> created a monster.
>>
>> John
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 4:22:13 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
>>> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
>>> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 
>>>
>>> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
>>> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
>>> 'em here 
>>> 
>>> . 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>>>
 I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill, 
 but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I don't 
 need them too high, so fingers crossed.

 John

 On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:

> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
> putting 
> it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I don't 
> know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I 
> assumed 
> that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem 
> adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the 
> aesthetics. 
> I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with the 
> Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.
>
> Bones
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them 
>> along? Because I’m in! Haha
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips wrote:
>>
>>> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 
>>>
>>> That 

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Den John]

Thanks John, maybe Ronny Romance just has a huge stack of 26mm clamp stems
from the 1990s in his parts stash :-)

I bought a used Clem H in April 2021 and built it with a set of steel
Ergotec Beach cruiser bars because they were the only thing
I could find that looked even little a bit like the Ortho bars. I really
love the range of positions, and the sweep is much more natural than flat
mtb bars. Not so keen on the 880g weight though...

Cheers,
John


On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 20:05, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Eric,
>I tried out a 120mm Technomic Deluxe and a 120mm Pearl for initial fit,
> and I liked the little bit of extra reach the Pearl gives me. A Nitto Pearl
> stem sunk all the way down in my Hunqapillar's short head tube still puts
> these bars about 8 cm's above my saddle.
>
> For some reason, Nitto measures the Pearl differently than the Technomic
> Deluxe and the Pearl is about 8-9mm longer. Why? I don't know.
>
> So if I decide later I need to raise these bars a bit higher, I think I'm
> going to need that one extra centimeter of the 130mm Technomic Deluxe.
>
>
> Hi Johnny,
>Most handlebars Crust sells are 26mm or 31.8mm, maybe that's why? Could
> strength be a factor?  Fingers crossed Crust starts to stock some 120-130mm
> stems for these bars.
>
> I think the demand for these bars caught Crust & Uncle Ron completely off
> guard.  Back in February 2021, when I emailed Uncle Ron with questions
> about a photo of what looked like giant, mutant Albatross bars on his
> Atlantis(?), he answered, "congrats on being the only person interested
> in my ortho back bars lol. it's a state of mind... "
>
> But then Crust put up those Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Back Bars Sesion#1-#3
> ride videos up on Youtube, and Uncle Ron posted Instagram photos, and they
> created a monster.
>
> John
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 4:22:13 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain
>> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you
>> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits).
>>
>> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic
>> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check
>> 'em here
>> 
>> .
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>>
>>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill,
>>> but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I don't
>>> need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>>
 Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I
 attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished putting
 it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I don't
 know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I assumed
 that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem
 adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the aesthetics.
 I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with the
 Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.

 Bones
 On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them
> along? Because I’m in! Haha
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 
>>
>> That gave me a chuckle.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I seem
>>> to recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction compound to the
>>> stem. Oh, I found it.
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:
>>>
 I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted it
 on a 4 bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 

 And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?

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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

['John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Eric, 
   I tried out a 120mm Technomic Deluxe and a 120mm Pearl for initial fit, 
and I liked the little bit of extra reach the Pearl gives me. A Nitto Pearl 
stem sunk all the way down in my Hunqapillar's short head tube still puts 
these bars about 8 cm's above my saddle.

For some reason, Nitto measures the Pearl differently than the Technomic 
Deluxe and the Pearl is about 8-9mm longer. Why? I don't know.

So if I decide later I need to raise these bars a bit higher, I think I'm 
going to need that one extra centimeter of the 130mm Technomic Deluxe.


Hi Johnny,  
   Most handlebars Crust sells are 26mm or 31.8mm, maybe that's why? Could 
strength be a factor?  Fingers crossed Crust starts to stock some 120-130mm 
stems for these bars. 

I think the demand for these bars caught Crust & Uncle Ron completely off 
guard.  Back in February 2021, when I emailed Uncle Ron with questions 
about a photo of what looked like giant, mutant Albatross bars on his 
Atlantis(?), he answered, "congrats on being the only person interested in 
my ortho back bars lol. it's a state of mind... "

But then Crust put up those Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Back Bars Sesion#1-#3 
ride videos up on Youtube, and Uncle Ron posted Instagram photos, and they 
created a monster.

John
On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 4:22:13 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 
>
> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
> 'em here 
> 
> . 
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill, but 
>> it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I don't need 
>> them too high, so fingers crossed.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
>>> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished putting 
>>> it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I don't 
>>> know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I assumed 
>>> that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem 
>>> adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the aesthetics. 
>>> I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with the 
>>> Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.
>>>
>>> Bones
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them along? 
 Because I’m in! Haha

 On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips wrote:

> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 
>
> That gave me a chuckle.
>
> John
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I seem to 
>> recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction compound to the 
>> stem. 
>> Oh, I found it. 
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:
>>
>>> I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted it 
>>> on a 4 bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?
>>>
>>> John
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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Dee Dee]

Someone asked the same thing on one of his instagram posts. His response:
[image: Screen Shot 2022-02-10 at 11.17.24 AM.png]
Maybe he has some 26mm clamp stems in production to accompany the next
batch of bars?

-Danny

On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 10:53 AM Den John  wrote:

> Does anyone know why they went for a 26mm clamp rather than 25.4mm? It
> seems like there's much more choice
> in 25.4mm stems (either ahead or quill). 25.4mm would go nicely with a
> Nitto V-4 or V-5, then there's much less worry about slipping.
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
> On Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 01:22:13 UTC+1 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain
>> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you
>> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits).
>>
>> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic
>> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check
>> 'em here
>> 
>> .
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>>
>>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill,
>>> but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I don't
>>> need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>>
 Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I
 attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished putting
 it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I don't
 know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I assumed
 that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem
 adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the aesthetics.
 I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with the
 Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.

 Bones
 On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them
> along? Because I’m in! Haha
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 
>>
>> That gave me a chuckle.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I seem
>>> to recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction compound to the
>>> stem. Oh, I found it.
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:
>>>
 I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted it
 on a 4 bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 

 And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?

 John

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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Den John]

Does anyone know why they went for a 26mm clamp rather than 25.4mm? It 
seems like there's much more choice
in 25.4mm stems (either ahead or quill). 25.4mm would go nicely with a 
Nitto V-4 or V-5, then there's much less worry about slipping.

Cheers,
Johnny
On Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 01:22:13 UTC+1 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 
>
> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
> 'em here 
> 
> . 
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill, but 
>> it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I don't need 
>> them too high, so fingers crossed.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
>>> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished putting 
>>> it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I don't 
>>> know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I assumed 
>>> that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem 
>>> adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the aesthetics. 
>>> I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with the 
>>> Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.
>>>
>>> Bones
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them along? 
 Because I’m in! Haha

 On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips wrote:

> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 
>
> That gave me a chuckle.
>
> John
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I seem to 
>> recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction compound to the 
>> stem. 
>> Oh, I found it. 
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:
>>
>>> I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted it 
>>> on a 4 bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Eric Marth]

@frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 

John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic deluxe 
in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 'em here 

. 

On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:

> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill, but 
> it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I don't need 
> them too high, so fingers crossed.
>
> John
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>
>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I attached 
>> them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished putting it 
>> together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I don't know 
>> where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I assumed that 
>> would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem adapters 
>> would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the aesthetics. I'm not a 
>> huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with the Tallux. I'll 
>> be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.
>>
>> Bones
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them along? 
>>> Because I’m in! Haha
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips wrote:
>>>
 "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 

 That gave me a chuckle.

 John

 On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I seem to 
> recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction compound to the 
> stem. 
> Oh, I found it. 
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:
>
>> I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted it on 
>> a 4 bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?
>>
>> John
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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

['John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill, but 
it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I don't need 
them too high, so fingers crossed.

John

On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:

> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I attached 
> them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished putting it 
> together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I don't know 
> where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I assumed that 
> would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem adapters 
> would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the aesthetics. I'm not a 
> huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with the Tallux. I'll 
> be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.
>
> Bones
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them along? 
>> Because I’m in! Haha
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips wrote:
>>
>>> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 
>>>
>>> That gave me a chuckle.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I seem to 
 recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction compound to the 
 stem. 
 Oh, I found it. 

 [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]

 On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:

> I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted it on 
> a 4 bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?
>
> John
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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Bones]

Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I attached 
them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished putting it 
together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I don't know 
where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I assumed that 
would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem adapters 
would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the aesthetics. I'm not a 
huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with the Tallux. I'll 
be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.

Bones
On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them along? 
> Because I’m in! Haha
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 
>>
>> That gave me a chuckle.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I seem to 
>>> recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction compound to the stem. 
>>> Oh, I found it. 
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:
>>>
 I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted it on a 
 4 bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 

 And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?

 John

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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Ryan Frahm]

Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them along? 
Because I’m in! Haha

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips wrote:

> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 
>
> That gave me a chuckle.
>
> John
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I seem to 
>> recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction compound to the stem. 
>> Oh, I found it. 
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:
>>
>>> I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted it on a 
>>> 4 bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?
>>>
>>> John
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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

['John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch]

"Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 

That gave me a chuckle.

John

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I seem to 
> recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction compound to the stem. 
> Oh, I found it. 
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:
>
>> I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted it on a 4 
>> bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?
>>
>> John
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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[sam . perez . 2002]

I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted it on a 4 bolt 
stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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> 
> And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?
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And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?

John

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