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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-04-06 Thread john Bokman

Thanks Chris. It looks like it has one now:

https://www.1up-usa.com/product/quik-rack-single/ 



> On Apr 6, 2023, at 5:19 PM, Chris L  wrote:
> 
> Read the 1UP descriptions very carefully.  I'm pretty sure when I bought 
> mine, they sold a 1.25" hitch version but I think it didn't have the ability 
> to be locked to the hitch, which was a must-have for me.  Heck, mine might be 
> a 1.25" with a spacer to make it 2". 
> 
> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 6:33:43 PM UTC-5 John Bokman wrote:
> Furthermore, I'm interested in hearing from those who use a 1.25" hitch 
> rather than the 2" hitch. I believe my Toyota Matrix can only accomodate a 
> 1.25" hitch (yet to install one). Is the 1.25 inch hitch suitable for a heavy 
> rack such as the 1UP, or other heavy beast?
> 
> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 4:30:34 PM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote:
> in Jacob's excellent picture, it looks like the front wheel is held down at 
> just about the area my Tubus Tara front rack's hoop is located. I'm wondering 
> if I were to adjust the holder further in front of the wheel: Would this 
> compromise security?  Otherwise, I might be able to place the holder in the 
> 4" between Tara's hoop and the front of my fender? Has anyone tried the 1up 
> with a Tubus Tara?
> 
> With auto racks, it seems if it's not one thing, it's another. To think, I 
> used to ride a bike with no fenders, nor racks of any kind! That was long 
> ago
> 
> John
> On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 4:30:01 AM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com <> wrote:
> I’ve got a 1up and a Thule t2. The Thule would not work with fenders. My 1pu 
> is the single bike option and does a great job. Here’s a pic with an xl Gus. 
> Road solid for about 50 miles of interstate and country roads. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Jacob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Brian Turner > wrote:
>> 
>> 
> 
>> If I had to do it all over, I’d definitely go with a 1up rack. My Küat NV2.0 
>> is great, and I’m fine with how it works with fenders and racks… but I feel 
>> like a 1up would be more secure in those cases. Also, my Medium Gus at 50” 
>> wheelbase is the absolute maximum length the Küat will handle.
>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2023, at 1:05 AM, JAS > wrote:
>>> 
> 
>>> The 1Up rack has worked really well for me too.  It's spendy, but well 
>>> made and has worked well with my Clem, Platypus and Bike Friday (all have 
>>> fenders).
>>> 
>>> Joyce
>>> 
> 
>>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:38:15 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
> 
>>> We love our 1UP rack and it works pretty well with fenders.
>>> 
> 
>>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:24:08 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered 
>>> Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders.  And the 
>>> hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  This 
>>> isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-04-06 Thread Chris L

Read the 1UP descriptions very carefully.  I'm pretty sure when I bought 
mine, they sold a 1.25" hitch version but I think it didn't have the 
ability to be locked to the hitch, which was a must-have for me.  Heck, 
mine might be a 1.25" with a spacer to make it 2". 

On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 6:33:43 PM UTC-5 John Bokman wrote:

> Furthermore, I'm interested in hearing from those who use a 1.25" hitch 
> rather than the 2" hitch. I believe my Toyota Matrix can only accomodate a 
> 1.25" hitch (yet to install one). Is the 1.25 inch hitch suitable for a 
> heavy rack such as the 1UP, or other heavy beast?
>
> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 4:30:34 PM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote:
>
>> in Jacob's excellent picture, it looks like the front wheel is held down 
>> at just about the area my Tubus Tara front rack's hoop is located. I'm 
>> wondering if I were to adjust the holder further in front of the wheel: 
>> Would this compromise security?  Otherwise, I might be able to place the 
>> holder in the 4" between Tara's hoop and the front of my fender? Has anyone 
>> tried the 1up with a Tubus Tara?
>>
>> With auto racks, it seems if it's not one thing, it's another. To think, 
>> I used to ride a bike with no fenders, nor racks of any kind! That was long 
>> ago
>>
>> John
>> On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 4:30:01 AM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve got a 1up and a Thule t2. The Thule would not work with fenders. My 
>>> 1pu is the single bike option and does a great job. Here’s a pic with an xl 
>>> Gus. Road solid for about 50 miles of interstate and country roads. 
>>>
>>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> -Jacob
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Brian Turner  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> If I had to do it all over, I’d definitely go with a 1up rack. My Küat 
>>> NV2.0 is great, and I’m fine with how it works with fenders and racks… but 
>>> I feel like a 1up would be more secure in those cases. Also, my Medium Gus 
>>> at 50” wheelbase is the absolute maximum length the Küat will handle.
>>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2023, at 1:05 AM, JAS  wrote:
>>>
>>> The 1Up rack has worked really well for me too.  It's spendy, but well 
>>> made and has worked well with my Clem, Platypus and Bike Friday (all have 
>>> fenders).
>>>
>>> Joyce
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:38:15 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>
>>> We love our 1UP rack and it works pretty well with fenders.

 On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:24:08 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my 
> fendered Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for 
> fenders.  
> And the hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  
> This isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-04-06 Thread John Bokman

Furthermore, I'm interested in hearing from those who use a 1.25" hitch 
rather than the 2" hitch. I believe my Toyota Matrix can only accomodate a 
1.25" hitch (yet to install one). Is the 1.25 inch hitch suitable for a 
heavy rack such as the 1UP, or other heavy beast?

On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 4:30:34 PM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote:

> in Jacob's excellent picture, it looks like the front wheel is held down 
> at just about the area my Tubus Tara front rack's hoop is located. I'm 
> wondering if I were to adjust the holder further in front of the wheel: 
> Would this compromise security?  Otherwise, I might be able to place the 
> holder in the 4" between Tara's hoop and the front of my fender? Has anyone 
> tried the 1up with a Tubus Tara?
>
> With auto racks, it seems if it's not one thing, it's another. To think, I 
> used to ride a bike with no fenders, nor racks of any kind! That was long 
> ago
>
> John
> On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 4:30:01 AM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I’ve got a 1up and a Thule t2. The Thule would not work with fenders. My 
>> 1pu is the single bike option and does a great job. Here’s a pic with an xl 
>> Gus. Road solid for about 50 miles of interstate and country roads. 
>>
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>
>>
>> -Jacob
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Brian Turner  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> If I had to do it all over, I’d definitely go with a 1up rack. My Küat 
>> NV2.0 is great, and I’m fine with how it works with fenders and racks… but 
>> I feel like a 1up would be more secure in those cases. Also, my Medium Gus 
>> at 50” wheelbase is the absolute maximum length the Küat will handle.
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2023, at 1:05 AM, JAS  wrote:
>>
>> The 1Up rack has worked really well for me too.  It's spendy, but well 
>> made and has worked well with my Clem, Platypus and Bike Friday (all have 
>> fenders).
>>
>> Joyce
>>
>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:38:15 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>
>> We love our 1UP rack and it works pretty well with fenders.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:24:08 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>
 Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered 
 Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders.  And the 
 hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  This 
 isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-04-06 Thread John Bokman

in Jacob's excellent picture, it looks like the front wheel is held down at 
just about the area my Tubus Tara front rack's hoop is located. I'm 
wondering if I were to adjust the holder further in front of the wheel: 
Would this compromise security?  Otherwise, I might be able to place the 
holder in the 4" between Tara's hoop and the front of my fender? Has anyone 
tried the 1up with a Tubus Tara?

With auto racks, it seems if it's not one thing, it's another. To think, I 
used to ride a bike with no fenders, nor racks of any kind! That was long 
ago

John
On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 4:30:01 AM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’ve got a 1up and a Thule t2. The Thule would not work with fenders. My 
> 1pu is the single bike option and does a great job. Here’s a pic with an xl 
> Gus. Road solid for about 50 miles of interstate and country roads. 
>
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> -Jacob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 20, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Brian Turner  wrote:
>
> 
>
> If I had to do it all over, I’d definitely go with a 1up rack. My Küat 
> NV2.0 is great, and I’m fine with how it works with fenders and racks… but 
> I feel like a 1up would be more secure in those cases. Also, my Medium Gus 
> at 50” wheelbase is the absolute maximum length the Küat will handle.
>
> On Feb 20, 2023, at 1:05 AM, JAS  wrote:
>
> The 1Up rack has worked really well for me too.  It's spendy, but well 
> made and has worked well with my Clem, Platypus and Bike Friday (all have 
> fenders).
>
> Joyce
>
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:38:15 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>
>> We love our 1UP rack and it works pretty well with fenders.
>>
>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:24:08 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered 
>>> Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders.  And the 
>>> hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  This 
>>> isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-25 Thread Roberta

I meant 1 1/4” hitch not 1 1/2”,  which I don’t think exists. 

On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 8:45:24 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> I had recommended to Pam via email the Saris Freedom 2 rack, the EX 
> version, which tilts, if she can find one. Otherwise, she could buy the 
> tilting add on and put it together herself, if that’s important. I can open 
> the trunk of my Civic without tilting the rack. 
>
> Th Rocktmounts Highnoon FC that Paul recommended looks nice, too. Pam—I 
> don’t think this was available when I was in the market, but it looks good. 
>
> I did not research but I’d expect that there are only 1 1/2” hitch mounts 
> available for a Prius. 
>
> The with the saris freedom you can U lock (not just cable lock) your bike 
> to the rack for quick stop. I realize nothing is theft proof but for me, 
> this added security is important. It may not be for others.  
>
> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 9:44:35 AM UTC-5 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> I've stayed out of this thread because the Yakima roof rack I use has 
>> already been mentioned (the one that clamps the downtube) and my 
>> Rockymounts rack isn't ideal for fenders, but I just went to Rockymounts 
>> site and they have a rack specifically for fenders: 
>> https://rockymounts.com/
>>
>> I looks like they have a hitch mount version: 
>> https://rockymounts.com/products/highnoon-fc-solo-fits-both-1-25-2.html
>> I guess it adds a backstop behind the front wheel, so the arm can grab 
>> the front of the front wheel and squeeze it against the backstop. Pretty 
>> smart design IMO. 
>>
>> And it looks like maybe there's a roof rack version launching in a couple 
>> days. Here's a screenshot I grabbed:
>> [image: Screenshot 2023-02-25 084056.png]
>>
>> FWIW, I'm really happy with the quality and stability of my Rockymounts 
>> rack. It's this roof rack that works with really fat tires: 
>> https://rockymounts.com/products/tomahawk.html. I think the price has 
>> gone up, but when I was shopping I thought it seemed like the best 
>> price/quality option, and it has definitely been great.
>>
>> I understand why people don't want to clamp the downtubes of their bikes, 
>> but as far as functionally holding a bike with fenders, the old Yakima 
>> Raptors work really really well if you can find one. Buying used is a 
>> reasonable proposition. These things dont wear out: 
>> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1915462/
>>
>> So, just throwing that rockymounts option into the mix :)
>>
>> Paul in AR
>>
>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:24:08 PM UTC-6 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered 
>>> Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders.  And the 
>>> hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  This 
>>> isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-25 Thread Roberta

I had recommended to Pam via email the Saris Freedom 2 rack, the EX 
version, which tilts, if she can find one. Otherwise, she could buy the 
tilting add on and put it together herself, if that’s important. I can open 
the trunk of my Civic without tilting the rack. 

Th Rocktmounts Highnoon FC that Paul recommended looks nice, too. Pam—I 
don’t think this was available when I was in the market, but it looks good. 

I did not research but I’d expect that there are only 1 1/2” hitch mounts 
available for a Prius. 

The with the saris freedom you can U lock (not just cable lock) your bike 
to the rack for quick stop. I realize nothing is theft proof but for me, 
this added security is important. It may not be for others.  

On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 9:44:35 AM UTC-5 Paul Clifton wrote:

> I've stayed out of this thread because the Yakima roof rack I use has 
> already been mentioned (the one that clamps the downtube) and my 
> Rockymounts rack isn't ideal for fenders, but I just went to Rockymounts 
> site and they have a rack specifically for fenders: 
> https://rockymounts.com/
>
> I looks like they have a hitch mount version: 
> https://rockymounts.com/products/highnoon-fc-solo-fits-both-1-25-2.html
> I guess it adds a backstop behind the front wheel, so the arm can grab the 
> front of the front wheel and squeeze it against the backstop. Pretty smart 
> design IMO. 
>
> And it looks like maybe there's a roof rack version launching in a couple 
> days. Here's a screenshot I grabbed:
> [image: Screenshot 2023-02-25 084056.png]
>
> FWIW, I'm really happy with the quality and stability of my Rockymounts 
> rack. It's this roof rack that works with really fat tires: 
> https://rockymounts.com/products/tomahawk.html. I think the price has 
> gone up, but when I was shopping I thought it seemed like the best 
> price/quality option, and it has definitely been great.
>
> I understand why people don't want to clamp the downtubes of their bikes, 
> but as far as functionally holding a bike with fenders, the old Yakima 
> Raptors work really really well if you can find one. Buying used is a 
> reasonable proposition. These things dont wear out: 
> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1915462/
>
> So, just throwing that rockymounts option into the mix :)
>
> Paul in AR
>
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:24:08 PM UTC-6 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered 
>> Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders.  And the 
>> hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  This 
>> isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-25 Thread John Bokman

Paul, thanks for digging deeper. It does indeed look like it would work for 
me. I'd probably spring for the double bike rack; at $580, it ain't cheap, 
but it seems comparable, or less expensive, that many options out there. As 
to the Yakima Raptor: I have had one for 25- or -so years, and it always 
just works. I give it no special treatment, no pampering, and it just 
works. Unfortunately,  it doesn't have a clone in a hitch-mounted rack. 
I've always been impressed with my various old-school Yakima racks, going 
on 35 years old now. So I want to give them the business, but they don't 
seem to make what I want: a simple-to-use, platform hitch rack that doesn't 
impinge on my fenders. In fact, I'm surprised that there are so few options 
for fendered bikes across brands. I guess not everyone lives in Portland, 
Oregon, like me. Who knew?

John

On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 12:00:45 PM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:

> Page 4 of the PDF instructions show the preferred arm location. It's like 
> basically as long as you can get it up to about 7 o'clock, you should be 
> good:
> https://rockymounts.com/content/51339_REV_5_sml.pdf
>
> I didn't see any reviews or video instructions. must be niche product :)
>
> I may spring for one of these next time I need another rack, which may be 
> never, but it'd really encourage me to put fenders back on some of my bikes.
>
> Paul
>
> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 1:55:02 PM UTC-6 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> yeah, John, I had the same thought. I might do a search on youtube or 
>> something for a review that shows it actually working.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 11:46:20 AM UTC-6 John Bokman wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the recommendation Paul. I'm wondering if the front arm can 
>>> be rotated forward a bit? My fenders are longer in front than the ones 
>>> shone on the Ebike.
>>>
>>> John
>>> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 6:44:35 AM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>>
 I've stayed out of this thread because the Yakima roof rack I use has 
 already been mentioned (the one that clamps the downtube) and my 
 Rockymounts rack isn't ideal for fenders, but I just went to Rockymounts 
 site and they have a rack specifically for fenders: 
 https://rockymounts.com/

 I looks like they have a hitch mount version: 
 https://rockymounts.com/products/highnoon-fc-solo-fits-both-1-25-2.html
 I guess it adds a backstop behind the front wheel, so the arm can grab 
 the front of the front wheel and squeeze it against the backstop. Pretty 
 smart design IMO. 

 And it looks like maybe there's a roof rack version launching in a 
 couple days. Here's a screenshot I grabbed:
 [image: Screenshot 2023-02-25 084056.png]

 FWIW, I'm really happy with the quality and stability of my Rockymounts 
 rack. It's this roof rack that works with really fat tires: 
 https://rockymounts.com/products/tomahawk.html. I think the price has 
 gone up, but when I was shopping I thought it seemed like the best 
 price/quality option, and it has definitely been great.

 I understand why people don't want to clamp the downtubes of their 
 bikes, but as far as functionally holding a bike with fenders, the old 
 Yakima Raptors work really really well if you can find one. Buying used is 
 a reasonable proposition. These things dont wear out: 
 https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1915462/

 So, just throwing that rockymounts option into the mix :)

 Paul in AR

 On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:24:08 PM UTC-6 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my 
> fendered Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for 
> fenders.  
> And the hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  
> This isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.

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[RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-25 Thread Paul Clifton

Page 4 of the PDF instructions show the preferred arm location. It's like 
basically as long as you can get it up to about 7 o'clock, you should be 
good:
https://rockymounts.com/content/51339_REV_5_sml.pdf

I didn't see any reviews or video instructions. must be niche product :)

I may spring for one of these next time I need another rack, which may be 
never, but it'd really encourage me to put fenders back on some of my bikes.

Paul

On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 1:55:02 PM UTC-6 Paul Clifton wrote:

> yeah, John, I had the same thought. I might do a search on youtube or 
> something for a review that shows it actually working.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 11:46:20 AM UTC-6 John Bokman wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the recommendation Paul. I'm wondering if the front arm can be 
>> rotated forward a bit? My fenders are longer in front than the ones shone 
>> on the Ebike.
>>
>> John
>> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 6:44:35 AM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>
>>> I've stayed out of this thread because the Yakima roof rack I use has 
>>> already been mentioned (the one that clamps the downtube) and my 
>>> Rockymounts rack isn't ideal for fenders, but I just went to Rockymounts 
>>> site and they have a rack specifically for fenders: 
>>> https://rockymounts.com/
>>>
>>> I looks like they have a hitch mount version: 
>>> https://rockymounts.com/products/highnoon-fc-solo-fits-both-1-25-2.html
>>> I guess it adds a backstop behind the front wheel, so the arm can grab 
>>> the front of the front wheel and squeeze it against the backstop. Pretty 
>>> smart design IMO. 
>>>
>>> And it looks like maybe there's a roof rack version launching in a 
>>> couple days. Here's a screenshot I grabbed:
>>> [image: Screenshot 2023-02-25 084056.png]
>>>
>>> FWIW, I'm really happy with the quality and stability of my Rockymounts 
>>> rack. It's this roof rack that works with really fat tires: 
>>> https://rockymounts.com/products/tomahawk.html. I think the price has 
>>> gone up, but when I was shopping I thought it seemed like the best 
>>> price/quality option, and it has definitely been great.
>>>
>>> I understand why people don't want to clamp the downtubes of their 
>>> bikes, but as far as functionally holding a bike with fenders, the old 
>>> Yakima Raptors work really really well if you can find one. Buying used is 
>>> a reasonable proposition. These things dont wear out: 
>>> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1915462/
>>>
>>> So, just throwing that rockymounts option into the mix :)
>>>
>>> Paul in AR
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:24:08 PM UTC-6 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>
 Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered 
 Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders.  And the 
 hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  This 
 isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-25 Thread Paul Clifton

yeah, John, I had the same thought. I might do a search on youtube or 
something for a review that shows it actually working.

Paul



On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 11:46:20 AM UTC-6 John Bokman wrote:

> Thanks for the recommendation Paul. I'm wondering if the front arm can be 
> rotated forward a bit? My fenders are longer in front than the ones shone 
> on the Ebike.
>
> John
> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 6:44:35 AM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> I've stayed out of this thread because the Yakima roof rack I use has 
>> already been mentioned (the one that clamps the downtube) and my 
>> Rockymounts rack isn't ideal for fenders, but I just went to Rockymounts 
>> site and they have a rack specifically for fenders: 
>> https://rockymounts.com/
>>
>> I looks like they have a hitch mount version: 
>> https://rockymounts.com/products/highnoon-fc-solo-fits-both-1-25-2.html
>> I guess it adds a backstop behind the front wheel, so the arm can grab 
>> the front of the front wheel and squeeze it against the backstop. Pretty 
>> smart design IMO. 
>>
>> And it looks like maybe there's a roof rack version launching in a couple 
>> days. Here's a screenshot I grabbed:
>> [image: Screenshot 2023-02-25 084056.png]
>>
>> FWIW, I'm really happy with the quality and stability of my Rockymounts 
>> rack. It's this roof rack that works with really fat tires: 
>> https://rockymounts.com/products/tomahawk.html. I think the price has 
>> gone up, but when I was shopping I thought it seemed like the best 
>> price/quality option, and it has definitely been great.
>>
>> I understand why people don't want to clamp the downtubes of their bikes, 
>> but as far as functionally holding a bike with fenders, the old Yakima 
>> Raptors work really really well if you can find one. Buying used is a 
>> reasonable proposition. These things dont wear out: 
>> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1915462/
>>
>> So, just throwing that rockymounts option into the mix :)
>>
>> Paul in AR
>>
>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:24:08 PM UTC-6 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered 
>>> Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders.  And the 
>>> hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  This 
>>> isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-25 Thread John Bokman

Thanks for the recommendation Paul. I'm wondering if the front arm can be 
rotated forward a bit? My fenders are longer in front than the ones shone 
on the Ebike.

John
On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 6:44:35 AM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:

> I've stayed out of this thread because the Yakima roof rack I use has 
> already been mentioned (the one that clamps the downtube) and my 
> Rockymounts rack isn't ideal for fenders, but I just went to Rockymounts 
> site and they have a rack specifically for fenders: 
> https://rockymounts.com/
>
> I looks like they have a hitch mount version: 
> https://rockymounts.com/products/highnoon-fc-solo-fits-both-1-25-2.html
> I guess it adds a backstop behind the front wheel, so the arm can grab the 
> front of the front wheel and squeeze it against the backstop. Pretty smart 
> design IMO. 
>
> And it looks like maybe there's a roof rack version launching in a couple 
> days. Here's a screenshot I grabbed:
> [image: Screenshot 2023-02-25 084056.png]
>
> FWIW, I'm really happy with the quality and stability of my Rockymounts 
> rack. It's this roof rack that works with really fat tires: 
> https://rockymounts.com/products/tomahawk.html. I think the price has 
> gone up, but when I was shopping I thought it seemed like the best 
> price/quality option, and it has definitely been great.
>
> I understand why people don't want to clamp the downtubes of their bikes, 
> but as far as functionally holding a bike with fenders, the old Yakima 
> Raptors work really really well if you can find one. Buying used is a 
> reasonable proposition. These things dont wear out: 
> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1915462/
>
> So, just throwing that rockymounts option into the mix :)
>
> Paul in AR
>
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:24:08 PM UTC-6 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered 
>> Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders.  And the 
>> hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  This 
>> isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-24 Thread Philip Williamson

1Up. Whatever car this goes on would need a hitch mount, with 2” preferred. 

i worried about putting my (metal) fendered Quickbeam on the rack, and cut 
short bits of pipe insulation, and imagined different ways to support the 
fender from underneath, with something between the fender and the tire… 
total overthink. Pipe insulation on the bar “protected the paint,” but it 
just worked. 

My car is a Kia Soul with a 2” hitch, and a single 1up rack that pretty 
much always stays on the car. 

If your rack needs to go on the car when the bike goes on, 1up sells 
couture wall mounts, but I’d be fine throwing my rack under the porch until 
I need it. (Actually, don’t do that. Aluminum reacts with soil contact and 
will corrode if left sitting in the dirt too long - I learned that while 
selling my dad’s hoarded Indian motorcycles, whoops)

Philip
Sonoma County, Calif (now with snow)

On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:24:08 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered 
> Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders.  And the 
> hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  This 
> isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-23 Thread Brian Forsee

Regarding ease of install on the 1up:

It uses a wedge system so the 'bolt on' and off is extremely easy and 
quick, especially if you don't care to use the lock. But the lock is just a 
through-pin with a cap so that is also very quick and easy. 

As far as handling it goes, I believe it is pretty light weight for what it 
is (i have not compared it to other racks), but big/heavy/bulky is kind of 
the nature of the beast with a platform rack. The two bike isn't too bad 
but certainly if you'll be using it as a 3 or 4 it is cumbersome to move. 
If using the original version (not the equip-d) and plan to use it in 3/4 
bike mode often, the extended lever deal to use the tilt function is 
probably worth the money. I don't find it difficult to reach underneath in 
2-bike mode.

Brian

On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 8:51:35 AM UTC-6 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> I has pulling this together last night and forgot to hit send...
>
> For $50 1 Up also offers a front wheel stop add-on for use with fenders...
> https://www.1up-usa.com/product/wheel-stop/
>
> Maybe the wheel stop and the fender pads lightly secured would be a good 
> solution, but that also adds around $80 per bike on top of the rack cost.
>
> The Swagman looks nice and priced well below a 2-bike 1 Up Heavy Duty, and 
> Jason can vouch for it. I think if I'd known about the Swagman, I might 
> have bought it over the 1 Up only to save some $$$.
>
> A couple of things to consider, the Swagman is rated at 35 lb per bike, 
> and it's limited to 2 bikes. The 1 Up Heavy Duty is off-road rated and can 
> expand to carry up to 4 bikes with a total carry capacity of 200 lb. The 
> rack itself weighs 46 lb it's not light, but manageable. I find the latch 
> system to raise and lower the rack kinda difficult to operate. The more 
> expensive 1Up Equip-D seems much more streamlined and easier to operate. 
> Also expandable to 4 bikes. If money isn't an issue I'd spring for 
> the Equip-D.
>
> It might be worth comparing 1Up to the Saris MHS, which seems more of an 
> apple-to-apple situation in terms of design.
> https://saris.com/products/mhs-3-1-base-2-hitch
>
> The 3-bike Saris MHS package is $1300, there was a YouTube review I 
> watched that stated that the rack with 2 sleds weighs around 100 lb also I 
> can't seem to find any fender add-ons.
>
> I suspect under normal driving conditions the Swagman with 2 heavy Rivs 
> might be fine, however, I'd be a bit more cautious about longer off-road 
> trips. The 1Up is definitely a fast set-it-and-forget-it solution. Loading 
> and unloading a bike takes little to no time. But again, the latch to raise 
> and lower the rack is a bit of a pain in the butt. The Equip-D solves that 
> issue.
>
> Last winter I drove to South Florida from Western MA with my Tanglefoot 
> and my wife's Hogsback strapped to the back of a RAV4 with the Saris Bones 
> rack. The Bones worked fine, but I was in constant fear that at any moment 
> the straps would fail and our bikes would end up under an 18-wheeler. After 
> that, my neighbor who is a single-speed mnt bike racer and competitive 
> bikepacker (recently completed the Vermont Super 8 for the second time) 
> suggested the 1Up, his is over 10 years old without any failures or fixes 
> used in tough conditions.
>
> I'd say the Swagman isn't a big investment for someone to give it a go, 
> the 1Up is way more of an investment. You could probably sell the Swagman 
> on CraigsList fairly easily if it didn't work out.
>
> Hope some of this helps.
>
> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 8:31:44 AM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> Great suggestions all.  Jason, the Swagman is near the limits on weight 
>> for my Betty since it has fenders, dyno, etc.  The other bike will most 
>> likely be a Surly Disc Trucker so both will be towards the 35 lb max weight 
>> limit.
>>
>> Max mentioned a Saris which has a higher weight limit.  Max, do you have 
>> a picture on the rack?  Does it stabilize the frame?  Where?  I see 
>> something in the picture but can't see close up to see where, how it 
>> attaches to the bike in the middle.
>>
>> The 1up price and fender cushions concern me.   I have the SKS plastic 
>> fenders and don't want to break them.
>> Thank you everyone for your suggestions.
>> On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 2:14:16 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> I have one of these Swagman racks that have fender-friendly trays and 
>>> then a hook that clamps down on the top tube - and works totally fine with 
>>> step-thru frames as the hook can all the way down to the bottom if it needs 
>>> to.  We use it with my partner's fendered dutch bikes and any of my bikes 
>>> (except the 20" wheels and smaller) 
>>> https://www.swagman.ca/collections/hitch-mount-racks/products/xtc2-hitch-mount
>>>
>>> On Monday, 20 February 2023 at 11:09:24 UTC-8 Lucky wrote:
>>>
 Hey! That’s cool, thanks Scott. Time to make some fender cushions.

 On Feb 20, 2023, at 10:56, greenteadrinkers

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-23 Thread greenteadrinkers

I has pulling this together last night and forgot to hit send...

For $50 1 Up also offers a front wheel stop add-on for use with fenders...
https://www.1up-usa.com/product/wheel-stop/

Maybe the wheel stop and the fender pads lightly secured would be a good 
solution, but that also adds around $80 per bike on top of the rack cost.

The Swagman looks nice and priced well below a 2-bike 1 Up Heavy Duty, and 
Jason can vouch for it. I think if I'd known about the Swagman, I might 
have bought it over the 1 Up only to save some $$$.

A couple of things to consider, the Swagman is rated at 35 lb per bike, and 
it's limited to 2 bikes. The 1 Up Heavy Duty is off-road rated and can 
expand to carry up to 4 bikes with a total carry capacity of 200 lb. The 
rack itself weighs 46 lb it's not light, but manageable. I find the latch 
system to raise and lower the rack kinda difficult to operate. The more 
expensive 1Up Equip-D seems much more streamlined and easier to operate. 
Also expandable to 4 bikes. If money isn't an issue I'd spring for 
the Equip-D.

It might be worth comparing 1Up to the Saris MHS, which seems more of an 
apple-to-apple situation in terms of design.
https://saris.com/products/mhs-3-1-base-2-hitch

The 3-bike Saris MHS package is $1300, there was a YouTube review I watched 
that stated that the rack with 2 sleds weighs around 100 lb also I can't 
seem to find any fender add-ons.

I suspect under normal driving conditions the Swagman with 2 heavy Rivs 
might be fine, however, I'd be a bit more cautious about longer off-road 
trips. The 1Up is definitely a fast set-it-and-forget-it solution. Loading 
and unloading a bike takes little to no time. But again, the latch to raise 
and lower the rack is a bit of a pain in the butt. The Equip-D solves that 
issue.

Last winter I drove to South Florida from Western MA with my Tanglefoot and 
my wife's Hogsback strapped to the back of a RAV4 with the Saris Bones 
rack. The Bones worked fine, but I was in constant fear that at any moment 
the straps would fail and our bikes would end up under an 18-wheeler. After 
that, my neighbor who is a single-speed mnt bike racer and competitive 
bikepacker (recently completed the Vermont Super 8 for the second time) 
suggested the 1Up, his is over 10 years old without any failures or fixes 
used in tough conditions.

I'd say the Swagman isn't a big investment for someone to give it a go, the 
1Up is way more of an investment. You could probably sell the Swagman on 
CraigsList fairly easily if it didn't work out.

Hope some of this helps.

On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 8:31:44 AM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Great suggestions all.  Jason, the Swagman is near the limits on weight 
> for my Betty since it has fenders, dyno, etc.  The other bike will most 
> likely be a Surly Disc Trucker so both will be towards the 35 lb max weight 
> limit.
>
> Max mentioned a Saris which has a higher weight limit.  Max, do you have a 
> picture on the rack?  Does it stabilize the frame?  Where?  I see something 
> in the picture but can't see close up to see where, how it attaches to the 
> bike in the middle.
>
> The 1up price and fender cushions concern me.   I have the SKS plastic 
> fenders and don't want to break them.
> Thank you everyone for your suggestions.
> On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 2:14:16 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> I have one of these Swagman racks that have fender-friendly trays and 
>> then a hook that clamps down on the top tube - and works totally fine with 
>> step-thru frames as the hook can all the way down to the bottom if it needs 
>> to.  We use it with my partner's fendered dutch bikes and any of my bikes 
>> (except the 20" wheels and smaller) 
>> https://www.swagman.ca/collections/hitch-mount-racks/products/xtc2-hitch-mount
>>
>> On Monday, 20 February 2023 at 11:09:24 UTC-8 Lucky wrote:
>>
>>> Hey! That’s cool, thanks Scott. Time to make some fender cushions.
>>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2023, at 10:56, greenteadrinkers  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> If your car has a hitch with a 2" receiver and you can afford it, don't 
>>> waste your money on anything other than a 1Up. You can get a single-bike 
>>> heavy-duty rack for $430, the rack is expandable for up to 4 bikes, with 
>>> each bike weighing no more than 50 lbs.
>>>
>>> https://www.1up-usa.com/product/quik-rack-single/
>>>
>>> 1Up also offers a solution to accommodate fenders, which cost $13 per 
>>> wheel: 
>>> https://www.1up-usa.com/product/fender-cushion/
>>>
>>> IMO, don't waste your time or money on anything else.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 12:20:41 PM UTC-5 Lucky wrote:
>>>
 I have a 1up also and have experienced interference with the fenders 
 and the front rack/basket. I’m not sure any ideal combo of rack exists if 
 you have these things on your bike. I certainly tried to find a solution 
 that keeps the bike off the roof, and keeps bikes from rubbing/banging 
 together. The 1up was the

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-23 Thread Pam Bikes

Great suggestions all.  Jason, the Swagman is near the limits on weight for 
my Betty since it has fenders, dyno, etc.  The other bike will most likely 
be a Surly Disc Trucker so both will be towards the 35 lb max weight limit.

Max mentioned a Saris which has a higher weight limit.  Max, do you have a 
picture on the rack?  Does it stabilize the frame?  Where?  I see something 
in the picture but can't see close up to see where, how it attaches to the 
bike in the middle.

The 1up price and fender cushions concern me.   I have the SKS plastic 
fenders and don't want to break them.
Thank you everyone for your suggestions.
On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 2:14:16 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I have one of these Swagman racks that have fender-friendly trays and then 
> a hook that clamps down on the top tube - and works totally fine with 
> step-thru frames as the hook can all the way down to the bottom if it needs 
> to.  We use it with my partner's fendered dutch bikes and any of my bikes 
> (except the 20" wheels and smaller) 
> https://www.swagman.ca/collections/hitch-mount-racks/products/xtc2-hitch-mount
>
> On Monday, 20 February 2023 at 11:09:24 UTC-8 Lucky wrote:
>
>> Hey! That’s cool, thanks Scott. Time to make some fender cushions.
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2023, at 10:56, greenteadrinkers  
>> wrote:
>>
>> If your car has a hitch with a 2" receiver and you can afford it, don't 
>> waste your money on anything other than a 1Up. You can get a single-bike 
>> heavy-duty rack for $430, the rack is expandable for up to 4 bikes, with 
>> each bike weighing no more than 50 lbs.
>>
>> https://www.1up-usa.com/product/quik-rack-single/
>>
>> 1Up also offers a solution to accommodate fenders, which cost $13 per 
>> wheel: 
>> https://www.1up-usa.com/product/fender-cushion/
>>
>> IMO, don't waste your time or money on anything else.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 12:20:41 PM UTC-5 Lucky wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 1up also and have experienced interference with the fenders and 
>>> the front rack/basket. I’m not sure any ideal combo of rack exists if you 
>>> have these things on your bike. I certainly tried to find a solution that 
>>> keeps the bike off the roof, and keeps bikes from rubbing/banging together. 
>>> The 1up was the closest I could find to ideal. 
>>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2023, at 09:15, Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Hi Jacob—it looks like the rear wheel bar on the 1up would crunch on my 
>>> full coverage rear fender. What do you think?
>>>
>>> I use a Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a claw for my wife’s 
>>> Betty, but those racks don’t seem to be sold anymore.
>>>
>>> Another alternative is a trunk rack with a top tube adapter for step 
>>> throughs/mixtes.
>>>
>>> I bought a bar but have never needed to use it yet. Has anyone had any 
>>> luck with those?
>>>
>>> Toshi in Oakland 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 4:30 AM Jacob Byard  wrote:
>>>
>>> I’ve got a 1up and a Thule t2. The Thule would not work with fenders. My 
 1pu is the single bike option and does a great job. Here’s a pic with an 
 xl 
 Gus. Road solid for about 50 miles of interstate and country roads. 

 


 -Jacob

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 20, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Brian Turner  wrote:

 

 If I had to do it all over, I’d definitely go with a 1up rack. My Küat 
 NV2.0 is great, and I’m fine with how it works with fenders and racks… but 
 I feel like a 1up would be more secure in those cases. Also, my Medium Gus 
 at 50” wheelbase is the absolute maximum length the Küat will handle.

 On Feb 20, 2023, at 1:05 AM, JAS  wrote:

 The 1Up rack has worked really well for me too.  It's spendy, but well 
 made and has worked well with my Clem, Platypus and Bike Friday (all have 
 fenders).

 Joyce

 On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:38:15 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:

> We love our 1UP rack and it works pretty well with fenders.
>
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:24:08 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my 
>> fendered Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for 
>> fenders.  
>> And the hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through. 
>>  
>> This isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-22 Thread luckyturnip

It’s very easy to use and install but I have the Heavy Duty two bike rack and find it very heavy and awkward. I have to add the other two additional trays once it’s on the car or I won’t be able to carry it alone. Even in two bike configuration I use my teen son to help carry. Me: healthy and relatively fit 48 year old femaleOn Feb 22, 2023, at 18:05, John Bokman wrote:What about ease of installation? Are these 1UPS user-friendly in that regard? I am interested in the 1UP for all the reasons already mentioned, but also, because sometimes I'd have one bike, and sometimes I'd have to carry my wife's bike, and 2 kids' bikes, also. Nice to have the option of the add-ons (although getting ridiculously expensive). I think I'm finally done with putting my bike up on top of the car. Sadly, I'm not as strong and nimble as I was in my 20s, and my Rivendell is HEAVY (and I have a Sam).On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 7:26:20 AM UTC-8 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:Also adding my vote/appreciation for the 1up. It is the best rack I have used, although 90% of time I use it I am carrying multiple mountain bikes so the fender is not an issue. The fact it contains 0 plastic was a big selling point for me. What I've done w/ fendered bikes is:1. Push front wheel arm against the tire2. Lightly push rear wheel arm against the rear fender3. Put a strap around the rear rim and rack tray at the 6o'clock position. This is similar to how the thule T2 rack and some others operate. The front arm keeps the bike from falling over laterally or moving forward, and the strap keeps the rear wheel from bouncing up or the bike from moving backwards.Another approach i've mocked up but not actually tried is moving the horizontal 'pin' in the rear wheel arm down so that it contacts the tire below the rear fender. This would provide secure resistance against forward and back motion, but would still require the extra strap to keep the rear wheel from bouncing up.I had an older thule T2 for awhile. It did work well w/ fendered bikes but overall it was not as user friendly or well-built as the 1up imo.-BrianOn Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 10:43:05 PM UTC-6 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:You don’t have to go that hard. I just get super paranoid. I know the bike can’t go anywhere but you never know…. I personally think the Thule rack is easier to use but the 1Up is much lighter. It installs in about a minute. That 1Up fender attachment looks interesting. My mountain bike just got fendered but I haven’t mounted it in the rack yet. I don’t know that I would trust not being able to crush that tire (paranoia). Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 21, 2023, at 10:33 PM, DamonLee wrote:I thought the same thing Leah, it looks soft but not grippy therefore requiring downwards force to hold it. The swagman looks good as it doesn't rely on clamping the tops of the wheels in any capacity.The deformation on the tires in jacobs photo makes me think I'd never want to put that kind of pressure on a fender.DamonOn Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 6:51:28 AM UTC+11 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I am following this thread with interest. I have the Saris Freedom 4 bike rack, but that company seems to be lessening their quality and maybe even phasing out this rack. They have a new modular system they seem to want you to buy, and it isn’t going to play nice with mixtes with fenders. Now, I have heard so much good about the 1Up rack, but honestly HOW is that fender cushion gonna work? Won’t it just mash my metal fenders? Push them out of shape? Mess up the alignment? Maybe someone with a fendered mixte wouldn’t mind posting it on their 1Up rack? LeahOn Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 8:44:49 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
Toshi,Occasionally, you can find
the Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a claw on Craigslist:https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bop/d/bellevue-yakima-lockjaw-upright-roof/7587045203.htmlI have the Yakima Raptor roof rack with two trays. I recently modified two trays into one for my 80" Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike. One day, I will not be able to lift my bike over my head onto the tray. For now, it works. Kim HetzelYelm, WA.
On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 9:15:11 AM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:Hi Jacob—it looks like the rear wheel bar on the 1up would crunch on my full coverage rear fender. What do you think?I use a Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a claw for my wife’s Betty, but those racks don’t seem to be sold anymore.Another alternative is a trunk rack with a top tube adapter for step throughs/mixtes.I bought a bar but have never needed to use it yet. Has anyone had any luck with those?Toshi in Oakland On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 4:30 AM Jacob Byard wrote:I’ve got a 1up and a Thule t2. The Thule would not work with fenders. My 1pu is the single bike option and does a great job. Here’s a pic with an xl Gus. Road solid for about 50 miles of interstate and country roads. -JacobSent from my iPhoneOn Feb 20, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Brian

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-22 Thread John Bokman

What about ease of installation? Are these 1UPS user-friendly in that 
regard? I am interested in the 1UP for all the reasons already mentioned, 
but also, because sometimes I'd have one bike, and sometimes I'd have to 
carry my wife's bike, and 2 kids' bikes, also. Nice to have the option of 
the add-ons (although getting ridiculously expensive). I think I'm finally 
done with putting my bike up on top of the car. Sadly, I'm not as strong 
and nimble as I was in my 20s, and my Rivendell is HEAVY (and I have a Sam).

On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 7:26:20 AM UTC-8 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:

> Also adding my vote/appreciation for the 1up. It is the best rack I have 
> used, although 90% of time I use it I am carrying multiple mountain bikes 
> so the fender is not an issue. The fact it contains 0 plastic was a big 
> selling point for me. 
>
> What I've done w/ fendered bikes is:
>
> 1. Push front wheel arm against the tire
> 2. Lightly push rear wheel arm against the rear fender
> 3. Put a strap around the rear rim and rack tray at the 6o'clock position. 
> This is similar to how the thule T2 rack and some others operate. The front 
> arm keeps the bike from falling over laterally or moving forward, and the 
> strap keeps the rear wheel from bouncing up or the bike from moving 
> backwards.
>
> Another approach i've mocked up but not actually tried is moving the 
> horizontal 'pin' in the rear wheel arm down so that it contacts the tire 
> below the rear fender. This would provide secure resistance against forward 
> and back motion, but would still require the extra strap to keep the rear 
> wheel from bouncing up.
>
> I had an older thule T2 for awhile. It did work well w/ fendered bikes but 
> overall it was not as user friendly or well-built as the 1up imo.
>
> -Brian
>
> On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 10:43:05 PM UTC-6 jacob...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> You don’t have to go that hard. I just get super paranoid. I know the 
>> bike can’t go anywhere but you never know…. 
>>
>> I personally think the Thule rack is easier to use but the 1Up is much 
>> lighter. It installs in about a minute. 
>>
>> That 1Up fender attachment looks interesting. My mountain bike just got 
>> fendered but I haven’t mounted it in the rack yet. I don’t know that I 
>> would trust not being able to crush that tire (paranoia). 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2023, at 10:33 PM, DamonLee  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> I thought the same thing Leah, it looks soft but not grippy therefore 
>> requiring downwards force to hold it. The swagman looks good as it doesn't 
>> rely on clamping the tops of the wheels in any capacity.
>> The deformation on the tires in jacobs photo makes me think I'd never 
>> want to put that kind of pressure on a fender.
>>
>> Damon
>> On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 6:51:28 AM UTC+11 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> I am following this thread with interest. I have the Saris Freedom 4 
>>> bike rack, but that company seems to be lessening their quality and maybe 
>>> even phasing out this rack. They have a new modular system they seem to 
>>> want you to buy, and it isn’t going to play nice with mixtes with fenders. 
>>>
>>> Now, I have heard so much good about the 1Up rack, but honestly HOW is 
>>> that fender cushion gonna work? Won’t it just mash my metal fenders? Push 
>>> them out of shape? Mess up the alignment? Maybe someone with a fendered 
>>> mixte wouldn’t mind posting it on their 1Up rack? 
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 8:44:49 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Toshi,

 Occasionally, you can find the Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a 
 claw on Craigslist:

 https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bop/d/bellevue-yakima-lockjaw-upright-roof/7587045203.html

 I have the Yakima Raptor roof rack with two trays. I recently modified 
 two trays into one for my 80" Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike. One day, I will not 
 be able to lift my bike over my head onto the tray. For now, it works. 

 Kim Hetzel
 Yelm, WA. 


 On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 9:15:11 AM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:

> Hi Jacob—it looks like the rear wheel bar on the 1up would crunch on 
> my full coverage rear fender. What do you think?
>
> I use a Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a claw for my wife’s 
> Betty, but those racks don’t seem to be sold anymore.
>
> Another alternative is a trunk rack with a top tube adapter for step 
> throughs/mixtes.
>
> I bought a bar but have never needed to use it yet. Has anyone had any 
> luck with those?
>
> Toshi in Oakland 
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 4:30 AM Jacob Byard  
> wrote:
>
>> I’ve got a 1up and a Thule t2. The Thule would not work with fenders. 
>> My 1pu is the single bike option and does a great job. Here’s a pic with 
>> an 
>> xl Gus. Road solid for about 50 miles of interstate and

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-22 Thread Brian Forsee

Also adding my vote/appreciation for the 1up. It is the best rack I have 
used, although 90% of time I use it I am carrying multiple mountain bikes 
so the fender is not an issue. The fact it contains 0 plastic was a big 
selling point for me. 

What I've done w/ fendered bikes is:

1. Push front wheel arm against the tire
2. Lightly push rear wheel arm against the rear fender
3. Put a strap around the rear rim and rack tray at the 6o'clock position. 
This is similar to how the thule T2 rack and some others operate. The front 
arm keeps the bike from falling over laterally or moving forward, and the 
strap keeps the rear wheel from bouncing up or the bike from moving 
backwards.

Another approach i've mocked up but not actually tried is moving the 
horizontal 'pin' in the rear wheel arm down so that it contacts the tire 
below the rear fender. This would provide secure resistance against forward 
and back motion, but would still require the extra strap to keep the rear 
wheel from bouncing up.

I had an older thule T2 for awhile. It did work well w/ fendered bikes but 
overall it was not as user friendly or well-built as the 1up imo.

-Brian

On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 10:43:05 PM UTC-6 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:

> You don’t have to go that hard. I just get super paranoid. I know the bike 
> can’t go anywhere but you never know…. 
>
> I personally think the Thule rack is easier to use but the 1Up is much 
> lighter. It installs in about a minute. 
>
> That 1Up fender attachment looks interesting. My mountain bike just got 
> fendered but I haven’t mounted it in the rack yet. I don’t know that I 
> would trust not being able to crush that tire (paranoia). 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 21, 2023, at 10:33 PM, DamonLee  wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> I thought the same thing Leah, it looks soft but not grippy therefore 
> requiring downwards force to hold it. The swagman looks good as it doesn't 
> rely on clamping the tops of the wheels in any capacity.
> The deformation on the tires in jacobs photo makes me think I'd never want 
> to put that kind of pressure on a fender.
>
> Damon
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 6:51:28 AM UTC+11 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> I am following this thread with interest. I have the Saris Freedom 4 bike 
>> rack, but that company seems to be lessening their quality and maybe even 
>> phasing out this rack. They have a new modular system they seem to want you 
>> to buy, and it isn’t going to play nice with mixtes with fenders. 
>>
>> Now, I have heard so much good about the 1Up rack, but honestly HOW is 
>> that fender cushion gonna work? Won’t it just mash my metal fenders? Push 
>> them out of shape? Mess up the alignment? Maybe someone with a fendered 
>> mixte wouldn’t mind posting it on their 1Up rack? 
>> Leah
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 8:44:49 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Toshi,
>>>
>>> Occasionally, you can find the Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a 
>>> claw on Craigslist:
>>>
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bop/d/bellevue-yakima-lockjaw-upright-roof/7587045203.html
>>>
>>> I have the Yakima Raptor roof rack with two trays. I recently modified 
>>> two trays into one for my 80" Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike. One day, I will not 
>>> be able to lift my bike over my head onto the tray. For now, it works. 
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 9:15:11 AM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:
>>>
 Hi Jacob—it looks like the rear wheel bar on the 1up would crunch on my 
 full coverage rear fender. What do you think?

 I use a Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a claw for my wife’s 
 Betty, but those racks don’t seem to be sold anymore.

 Another alternative is a trunk rack with a top tube adapter for step 
 throughs/mixtes.

 I bought a bar but have never needed to use it yet. Has anyone had any 
 luck with those?

 Toshi in Oakland 

 On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 4:30 AM Jacob Byard  wrote:

> I’ve got a 1up and a Thule t2. The Thule would not work with fenders. 
> My 1pu is the single bike option and does a great job. Here’s a pic with 
> an 
> xl Gus. Road solid for about 50 miles of interstate and country roads. 
>
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> -Jacob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 20, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Brian Turner  wrote:
>
> 
>
> If I had to do it all over, I’d definitely go with a 1up rack. My Küat 
> NV2.0 is great, and I’m fine with how it works with fenders and racks… 
> but 
> I feel like a 1up would be more secure in those cases. Also, my Medium 
> Gus 
> at 50” wheelbase is the absolute maximum length the Küat will handle.
>
> On Feb 20, 2023, at 1:05 AM, JAS  wrote:
>
> The 1Up rack has worked really well for me too.  It's spendy, but 
> well made and has worked well with my Clem, Platypus and Bike Friday (all 
>

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-21 Thread Jacob Byard

You don’t have to go that hard. I just get super paranoid. I know the bike can’t go anywhere but you never know…. I personally think the Thule rack is easier to use but the 1Up is much lighter. It installs in about a minute. That 1Up fender attachment looks interesting. My mountain bike just got fendered but I haven’t mounted it in the rack yet. I don’t know that I would trust not being able to crush that tire (paranoia). Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 21, 2023, at 10:33 PM, DamonLee wrote:I thought the same thing Leah, it looks soft but not grippy therefore requiring downwards force to hold it. The swagman looks good as it doesn't rely on clamping the tops of the wheels in any capacity.The deformation on the tires in jacobs photo makes me think I'd never want to put that kind of pressure on a fender.DamonOn Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 6:51:28 AM UTC+11 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I am following this thread with interest. I have the Saris Freedom 4 bike rack, but that company seems to be lessening their quality and maybe even phasing out this rack. They have a new modular system they seem to want you to buy, and it isn’t going to play nice with mixtes with fenders. Now, I have heard so much good about the 1Up rack, but honestly HOW is that fender cushion gonna work? Won’t it just mash my metal fenders? Push them out of shape? Mess up the alignment? Maybe someone with a fendered mixte wouldn’t mind posting it on their 1Up rack? LeahOn Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 8:44:49 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
Toshi,Occasionally, you can find
the Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a claw on Craigslist:https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bop/d/bellevue-yakima-lockjaw-upright-roof/7587045203.htmlI have the Yakima Raptor roof rack with two trays. I recently modified two trays into one for my 80" Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike. One day, I will not be able to lift my bike over my head onto the tray. For now, it works. Kim HetzelYelm, WA.
On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 9:15:11 AM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:Hi Jacob—it looks like the rear wheel bar on the 1up would crunch on my full coverage rear fender. What do you think?I use a Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a claw for my wife’s Betty, but those racks don’t seem to be sold anymore.Another alternative is a trunk rack with a top tube adapter for step throughs/mixtes.I bought a bar but have never needed to use it yet. Has anyone had any luck with those?Toshi in Oakland On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 4:30 AM Jacob Byard wrote:I’ve got a 1up and a Thule t2. The Thule would not work with fenders. My 1pu is the single bike option and does a great job. Here’s a pic with an xl Gus. Road solid for about 50 miles of interstate and country roads. -JacobSent from my iPhoneOn Feb 20, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Brian Turner wrote:If I had to do it all over, I’d definitely go with a 1up rack. My Küat NV2.0 is great, and I’m fine with how it works with fenders and racks… but I feel like a 1up would be more secure in those cases. Also, my Medium Gus at 50” wheelbase is the absolute maximum length the Küat will handle.On Feb 20, 2023, at 1:05 AM, JAS wrote:The 1Up rack has worked really well for me too. It's spendy, but well made and has worked well with my Clem, Platypus and Bike Friday (all have fenders).JoyceOn Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:38:15 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:We love our 1UP rack and it works pretty well with fenders.On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:24:08 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered Betty. Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders. And the hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through. This isn't for my car. I don't like to drive. Thanks in advance.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-21 Thread DamonLee


I thought the same thing Leah, it looks soft but not grippy therefore 
requiring downwards force to hold it. The swagman looks good as it doesn't 
rely on clamping the tops of the wheels in any capacity.
The deformation on the tires in jacobs photo makes me think I'd never want 
to put that kind of pressure on a fender.

Damon
On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 6:51:28 AM UTC+11 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> I am following this thread with interest. I have the Saris Freedom 4 bike 
> rack, but that company seems to be lessening their quality and maybe even 
> phasing out this rack. They have a new modular system they seem to want you 
> to buy, and it isn’t going to play nice with mixtes with fenders. 
>
> Now, I have heard so much good about the 1Up rack, but honestly HOW is 
> that fender cushion gonna work? Won’t it just mash my metal fenders? Push 
> them out of shape? Mess up the alignment? Maybe someone with a fendered 
> mixte wouldn’t mind posting it on their 1Up rack? 
> Leah
>
> On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 8:44:49 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Toshi,
>>
>> Occasionally, you can find the Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a 
>> claw on Craigslist:
>>
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bop/d/bellevue-yakima-lockjaw-upright-roof/7587045203.html
>>
>> I have the Yakima Raptor roof rack with two trays. I recently modified 
>> two trays into one for my 80" Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike. One day, I will not 
>> be able to lift my bike over my head onto the tray. For now, it works. 
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA. 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 9:15:11 AM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jacob—it looks like the rear wheel bar on the 1up would crunch on my 
>>> full coverage rear fender. What do you think?
>>>
>>> I use a Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a claw for my wife’s 
>>> Betty, but those racks don’t seem to be sold anymore.
>>>
>>> Another alternative is a trunk rack with a top tube adapter for step 
>>> throughs/mixtes.
>>>
>>> I bought a bar but have never needed to use it yet. Has anyone had any 
>>> luck with those?
>>>
>>> Toshi in Oakland 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 4:30 AM Jacob Byard  wrote:
>>>
 I’ve got a 1up and a Thule t2. The Thule would not work with fenders. 
 My 1pu is the single bike option and does a great job. Here’s a pic with 
 an 
 xl Gus. Road solid for about 50 miles of interstate and country roads. 

 [image: image0.jpeg]

 -Jacob

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 20, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Brian Turner  wrote:

 

 If I had to do it all over, I’d definitely go with a 1up rack. My Küat 
 NV2.0 is great, and I’m fine with how it works with fenders and racks… but 
 I feel like a 1up would be more secure in those cases. Also, my Medium Gus 
 at 50” wheelbase is the absolute maximum length the Küat will handle.

 On Feb 20, 2023, at 1:05 AM, JAS  wrote:

 The 1Up rack has worked really well for me too.  It's spendy, but well 
 made and has worked well with my Clem, Platypus and Bike Friday (all have 
 fenders).

 Joyce

 On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:38:15 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:

> We love our 1UP rack and it works pretty well with fenders.
>
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:24:08 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my 
>> fendered Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for 
>> fenders.  
>> And the hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through. 
>>  
>> This isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-21 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!

I am following this thread with interest. I have the Saris Freedom 4 bike 
rack, but that company seems to be lessening their quality and maybe even 
phasing out this rack. They have a new modular system they seem to want you 
to buy, and it isn’t going to play nice with mixtes with fenders. 

Now, I have heard so much good about the 1Up rack, but honestly HOW is that 
fender cushion gonna work? Won’t it just mash my metal fenders? Push them 
out of shape? Mess up the alignment? Maybe someone with a fendered mixte 
wouldn’t mind posting it on their 1Up rack? 
Leah

On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 8:44:49 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Toshi,
>
> Occasionally, you can find the Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a 
> claw on Craigslist:
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bop/d/bellevue-yakima-lockjaw-upright-roof/7587045203.html
>
> I have the Yakima Raptor roof rack with two trays. I recently modified two 
> trays into one for my 80" Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike. One day, I will not be 
> able to lift my bike over my head onto the tray. For now, it works. 
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA. 
>
>
> On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 9:15:11 AM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:
>
>> Hi Jacob—it looks like the rear wheel bar on the 1up would crunch on my 
>> full coverage rear fender. What do you think?
>>
>> I use a Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a claw for my wife’s 
>> Betty, but those racks don’t seem to be sold anymore.
>>
>> Another alternative is a trunk rack with a top tube adapter for step 
>> throughs/mixtes.
>>
>> I bought a bar but have never needed to use it yet. Has anyone had any 
>> luck with those?
>>
>> Toshi in Oakland 
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 4:30 AM Jacob Byard  wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve got a 1up and a Thule t2. The Thule would not work with fenders. My 
>>> 1pu is the single bike option and does a great job. Here’s a pic with an xl 
>>> Gus. Road solid for about 50 miles of interstate and country roads. 
>>>
>>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>>
>>> -Jacob
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Brian Turner  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> If I had to do it all over, I’d definitely go with a 1up rack. My Küat 
>>> NV2.0 is great, and I’m fine with how it works with fenders and racks… but 
>>> I feel like a 1up would be more secure in those cases. Also, my Medium Gus 
>>> at 50” wheelbase is the absolute maximum length the Küat will handle.
>>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2023, at 1:05 AM, JAS  wrote:
>>>
>>> The 1Up rack has worked really well for me too.  It's spendy, but well 
>>> made and has worked well with my Clem, Platypus and Bike Friday (all have 
>>> fenders).
>>>
>>> Joyce
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:38:15 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>
 We love our 1UP rack and it works pretty well with fenders.

 On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:24:08 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my 
> fendered Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for 
> fenders.  
> And the hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  
> This isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-20 Thread rltilley

1Up also has the Wheel Stop which is supposed to make carrying fendered bikes better. I think it helps clamp the front wheel more securely so you can go easy on the rear bar which would be clamping on the fender itself?I added one with my order but haven’t installed it yet. I’ve been working from home and no road trips lately so my rack is getting little use.Wheel Stop1up-usa.comRobert TilleySan Diego, CASent from my iPhoneOn Feb 20, 2023, at 10:56 AM, greenteadrinkers wrote:If your car has a hitch with a 2" receiver and you can afford it, don't waste your money on anything other than a 1Up. You can get a single-bike heavy-duty rack for $430, the rack is expandable for up to 4 bikes, with each bike weighing no more than 50 lbs.https://www.1up-usa.com/product/quik-rack-single/1Up also offers a solution to accommodate fenders, which cost $13 per wheel: https://www.1up-usa.com/product/fender-cushion/IMO, don't waste your time or money on anything else.ScottOn Monday, February 20, 2023 at 12:20:41 PM UTC-5 Lucky wrote:I have a 1up also and have experienced interference with the fenders and the front rack/basket. I’m not sure any ideal combo of rack exists if you have these things on your bike. I certainly tried to find a solution that keeps the bike off the roof, and keeps bikes from rubbing/banging together. The 1up was the closest I could find to ideal. On Feb 20, 2023, at 09:15, Toshi Takeuchi wrote:Hi Jacob—it looks like the rear wheel bar on the 1up would crunch on my full coverage rear fender. What do you think?I use a Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a claw for my wife’s Betty, but those racks don’t seem to be sold anymore.Another alternative is a trunk rack with a top tube adapter for step throughs/mixtes.I bought a bar but have never needed to use it yet. Has anyone had any luck with those?Toshi in Oakland On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 4:30 AM Jacob Byard wrote:I’ve got a 1up and a Thule t2. The Thule would not work with fenders. My 1pu is the single bike option and does a great job. Here’s a pic with an xl Gus. Road solid for about 50 miles of interstate and country roads. -JacobSent from my iPhoneOn Feb 20, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Brian Turner wrote:If I had to do it all over, I’d definitely go with a 1up rack. My Küat NV2.0 is great, and I’m fine with how it works with fenders and racks… but I feel like a 1up would be more secure in those cases. Also, my Medium Gus at 50” wheelbase is the absolute maximum length the Küat will handle.On Feb 20, 2023, at 1:05 AM, JAS wrote:The 1Up rack has worked really well for me too. It's spendy, but well made and has worked well with my Clem, Platypus and Bike Friday (all have fenders).JoyceOn Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:38:15 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:We love our 1UP rack and it works pretty well with fenders.On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:24:08 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered Betty. Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders. And the hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through. This isn't for my car. I don't like to drive. Thanks in advance.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-20 Thread maxcr

I've been using  a Saris Freedom 2 EX 2-Bike Hitch Rack which has worked 
out great for my large fendered Riv bikes - I don't see why it wouldn't 
work for a Betty.
Also, it's MUSA  which is a plus.
Max

On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 2:42:35 PM UTC-5 ericf3 wrote:

> I have had a 2 bike Swagman for several years, and even used it to take 
> bikes from Vancouver to Ottawa on one occasion. Worked like a charm. And it 
> easily takes different sizes - I have used it for a pair of my bikes (64cm) 
> or one of mine, one of my wife's (52cm or so for her)
>
> The only issues I have are, one it's heavy to carry around, getting on and 
> off the car. And two, with bikes in place, it blocks the licence plate, 
> which will occasionally get you a ticket. (On a newer Forester.)
>
> EricF
> Vancouver
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-20 Thread Eric Floden

I have had a 2 bike Swagman for several years, and even used it to take
bikes from Vancouver to Ottawa on one occasion. Worked like a charm. And it
easily takes different sizes - I have used it for a pair of my bikes (64cm)
or one of mine, one of my wife's (52cm or so for her)

The only issues I have are, one it's heavy to carry around, getting on and
off the car. And two, with bikes in place, it blocks the licence plate,
which will occasionally get you a ticket. (On a newer Forester.)

EricF
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-20 Thread greenteadrinkers

Wow, the Swagman looks nice! Way more affordable than a 2-bike super duty 1 
Up.

On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 2:14:16 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I have one of these Swagman racks that have fender-friendly trays and then 
> a hook that clamps down on the top tube - and works totally fine with 
> step-thru frames as the hook can all the way down to the bottom if it needs 
> to.  We use it with my partner's fendered dutch bikes and any of my bikes 
> (except the 20" wheels and smaller) 
> https://www.swagman.ca/collections/hitch-mount-racks/products/xtc2-hitch-mount
>
> On Monday, 20 February 2023 at 11:09:24 UTC-8 Lucky wrote:
>
>> Hey! That’s cool, thanks Scott. Time to make some fender cushions.
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2023, at 10:56, greenteadrinkers  
>> wrote:
>>
>> If your car has a hitch with a 2" receiver and you can afford it, don't 
>> waste your money on anything other than a 1Up. You can get a single-bike 
>> heavy-duty rack for $430, the rack is expandable for up to 4 bikes, with 
>> each bike weighing no more than 50 lbs.
>>
>> https://www.1up-usa.com/product/quik-rack-single/
>>
>> 1Up also offers a solution to accommodate fenders, which cost $13 per 
>> wheel: 
>> https://www.1up-usa.com/product/fender-cushion/
>>
>> IMO, don't waste your time or money on anything else.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 12:20:41 PM UTC-5 Lucky wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 1up also and have experienced interference with the fenders and 
>>> the front rack/basket. I’m not sure any ideal combo of rack exists if you 
>>> have these things on your bike. I certainly tried to find a solution that 
>>> keeps the bike off the roof, and keeps bikes from rubbing/banging together. 
>>> The 1up was the closest I could find to ideal. 
>>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2023, at 09:15, Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Hi Jacob—it looks like the rear wheel bar on the 1up would crunch on my 
>>> full coverage rear fender. What do you think?
>>>
>>> I use a Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a claw for my wife’s 
>>> Betty, but those racks don’t seem to be sold anymore.
>>>
>>> Another alternative is a trunk rack with a top tube adapter for step 
>>> throughs/mixtes.
>>>
>>> I bought a bar but have never needed to use it yet. Has anyone had any 
>>> luck with those?
>>>
>>> Toshi in Oakland 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 4:30 AM Jacob Byard  wrote:
>>>
>>> I’ve got a 1up and a Thule t2. The Thule would not work with fenders. My 
 1pu is the single bike option and does a great job. Here’s a pic with an 
 xl 
 Gus. Road solid for about 50 miles of interstate and country roads. 

 


 -Jacob

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 20, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Brian Turner  wrote:

 

 If I had to do it all over, I’d definitely go with a 1up rack. My Küat 
 NV2.0 is great, and I’m fine with how it works with fenders and racks… but 
 I feel like a 1up would be more secure in those cases. Also, my Medium Gus 
 at 50” wheelbase is the absolute maximum length the Küat will handle.

 On Feb 20, 2023, at 1:05 AM, JAS  wrote:

 The 1Up rack has worked really well for me too.  It's spendy, but well 
 made and has worked well with my Clem, Platypus and Bike Friday (all have 
 fenders).

 Joyce

 On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:38:15 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:

> We love our 1UP rack and it works pretty well with fenders.
>
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:24:08 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my 
>> fendered Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for 
>> fenders.  
>> And the hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through. 
>>  
>> This isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-20 Thread Jason Fuller

I have one of these Swagman racks that have fender-friendly trays and then 
a hook that clamps down on the top tube - and works totally fine with 
step-thru frames as the hook can all the way down to the bottom if it needs 
to.  We use it with my partner's fendered dutch bikes and any of my bikes 
(except the 20" wheels and 
smaller) 
https://www.swagman.ca/collections/hitch-mount-racks/products/xtc2-hitch-mount

On Monday, 20 February 2023 at 11:09:24 UTC-8 Lucky wrote:

> Hey! That’s cool, thanks Scott. Time to make some fender cushions.
>
> On Feb 20, 2023, at 10:56, greenteadrinkers  wrote:
>
> If your car has a hitch with a 2" receiver and you can afford it, don't 
> waste your money on anything other than a 1Up. You can get a single-bike 
> heavy-duty rack for $430, the rack is expandable for up to 4 bikes, with 
> each bike weighing no more than 50 lbs.
>
> https://www.1up-usa.com/product/quik-rack-single/
>
> 1Up also offers a solution to accommodate fenders, which cost $13 per 
> wheel: 
> https://www.1up-usa.com/product/fender-cushion/
>
> IMO, don't waste your time or money on anything else.
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 12:20:41 PM UTC-5 Lucky wrote:
>
>> I have a 1up also and have experienced interference with the fenders and 
>> the front rack/basket. I’m not sure any ideal combo of rack exists if you 
>> have these things on your bike. I certainly tried to find a solution that 
>> keeps the bike off the roof, and keeps bikes from rubbing/banging together. 
>> The 1up was the closest I could find to ideal. 
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2023, at 09:15, Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi Jacob—it looks like the rear wheel bar on the 1up would crunch on my 
>> full coverage rear fender. What do you think?
>>
>> I use a Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a claw for my wife’s 
>> Betty, but those racks don’t seem to be sold anymore.
>>
>> Another alternative is a trunk rack with a top tube adapter for step 
>> throughs/mixtes.
>>
>> I bought a bar but have never needed to use it yet. Has anyone had any 
>> luck with those?
>>
>> Toshi in Oakland 
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 4:30 AM Jacob Byard  wrote:
>>
>> I’ve got a 1up and a Thule t2. The Thule would not work with fenders. My 
>>> 1pu is the single bike option and does a great job. Here’s a pic with an xl 
>>> Gus. Road solid for about 50 miles of interstate and country roads. 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> -Jacob
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Brian Turner  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> If I had to do it all over, I’d definitely go with a 1up rack. My Küat 
>>> NV2.0 is great, and I’m fine with how it works with fenders and racks… but 
>>> I feel like a 1up would be more secure in those cases. Also, my Medium Gus 
>>> at 50” wheelbase is the absolute maximum length the Küat will handle.
>>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2023, at 1:05 AM, JAS  wrote:
>>>
>>> The 1Up rack has worked really well for me too.  It's spendy, but well 
>>> made and has worked well with my Clem, Platypus and Bike Friday (all have 
>>> fenders).
>>>
>>> Joyce
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:38:15 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>
 We love our 1UP rack and it works pretty well with fenders.

 On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:24:08 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my 
> fendered Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for 
> fenders.  
> And the hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  
> This isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-20 Thread luckyturnip

Hey! That’s cool, thanks Scott. Time to make some fender cushions.On Feb 20, 2023, at 10:56, greenteadrinkers wrote:If your car has a hitch with a 2" receiver and you can afford it, don't waste your money on anything other than a 1Up. You can get a single-bike heavy-duty rack for $430, the rack is expandable for up to 4 bikes, with each bike weighing no more than 50 lbs.https://www.1up-usa.com/product/quik-rack-single/1Up also offers a solution to accommodate fenders, which cost $13 per wheel: https://www.1up-usa.com/product/fender-cushion/IMO, don't waste your time or money on anything else.ScottOn Monday, February 20, 2023 at 12:20:41 PM UTC-5 Lucky wrote:I have a 1up also and have experienced interference with the fenders and the front rack/basket. I’m not sure any ideal combo of rack exists if you have these things on your bike. I certainly tried to find a solution that keeps the bike off the roof, and keeps bikes from rubbing/banging together. The 1up was the closest I could find to ideal. On Feb 20, 2023, at 09:15, Toshi Takeuchi wrote:Hi Jacob—it looks like the rear wheel bar on the 1up would crunch on my full coverage rear fender. What do you think?I use a Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a claw for my wife’s Betty, but those racks don’t seem to be sold anymore.Another alternative is a trunk rack with a top tube adapter for step throughs/mixtes.I bought a bar but have never needed to use it yet. Has anyone had any luck with those?Toshi in Oakland On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 4:30 AM Jacob Byard wrote:I’ve got a 1up and a Thule t2. The Thule would not work with fenders. My 1pu is the single bike option and does a great job. Here’s a pic with an xl Gus. Road solid for about 50 miles of interstate and country roads. -JacobSent from my iPhoneOn Feb 20, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Brian Turner wrote:If I had to do it all over, I’d definitely go with a 1up rack. My Küat NV2.0 is great, and I’m fine with how it works with fenders and racks… but I feel like a 1up would be more secure in those cases. Also, my Medium Gus at 50” wheelbase is the absolute maximum length the Küat will handle.On Feb 20, 2023, at 1:05 AM, JAS wrote:The 1Up rack has worked really well for me too. It's spendy, but well made and has worked well with my Clem, Platypus and Bike Friday (all have fenders).JoyceOn Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:38:15 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:We love our 1UP rack and it works pretty well with fenders.On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:24:08 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered Betty. Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders. And the hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through. This isn't for my car. I don't like to drive. Thanks in advance.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-20 Thread greenteadrinkers

If your car has a hitch with a 2" receiver and you can afford it, don't 
waste your money on anything other than a 1Up. You can get a single-bike 
heavy-duty rack for $430, the rack is expandable for up to 4 bikes, with 
each bike weighing no more than 50 lbs.
https://www.1up-usa.com/product/quik-rack-single/

1Up also offers a solution to accommodate fenders, which cost $13 per 
wheel: 
https://www.1up-usa.com/product/fender-cushion/

IMO, don't waste your time or money on anything else.

Scott



On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 12:20:41 PM UTC-5 Lucky wrote:

> I have a 1up also and have experienced interference with the fenders and 
> the front rack/basket. I’m not sure any ideal combo of rack exists if you 
> have these things on your bike. I certainly tried to find a solution that 
> keeps the bike off the roof, and keeps bikes from rubbing/banging together. 
> The 1up was the closest I could find to ideal. 
>
> On Feb 20, 2023, at 09:15, Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi Jacob—it looks like the rear wheel bar on the 1up would crunch on my 
> full coverage rear fender. What do you think?
>
> I use a Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a claw for my wife’s Betty, 
> but those racks don’t seem to be sold anymore.
>
> Another alternative is a trunk rack with a top tube adapter for step 
> throughs/mixtes.
>
> I bought a bar but have never needed to use it yet. Has anyone had any 
> luck with those?
>
> Toshi in Oakland 
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 4:30 AM Jacob Byard  wrote:
>
> I’ve got a 1up and a Thule t2. The Thule would not work with fenders. My 
>> 1pu is the single bike option and does a great job. Here’s a pic with an xl 
>> Gus. Road solid for about 50 miles of interstate and country roads. 
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> -Jacob
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Brian Turner  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> If I had to do it all over, I’d definitely go with a 1up rack. My Küat 
>> NV2.0 is great, and I’m fine with how it works with fenders and racks… but 
>> I feel like a 1up would be more secure in those cases. Also, my Medium Gus 
>> at 50” wheelbase is the absolute maximum length the Küat will handle.
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2023, at 1:05 AM, JAS  wrote:
>>
>> The 1Up rack has worked really well for me too.  It's spendy, but well 
>> made and has worked well with my Clem, Platypus and Bike Friday (all have 
>> fenders).
>>
>> Joyce
>>
>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:38:15 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>
>>> We love our 1UP rack and it works pretty well with fenders.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:24:08 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>
 Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered 
 Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders.  And the 
 hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  This 
 isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-20 Thread luckyturnip

I have a 1up also and have experienced interference with the fenders and the front rack/basket. I’m not sure any ideal combo of rack exists if you have these things on your bike. I certainly tried to find a solution that keeps the bike off the roof, and keeps bikes from rubbing/banging together. The 1up was the closest I could find to ideal. On Feb 20, 2023, at 09:15, Toshi Takeuchi wrote:Hi Jacob—it looks like the rear wheel bar on the 1up would crunch on my full coverage rear fender. What do you think?I use a Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a claw for my wife’s Betty, but those racks don’t seem to be sold anymore.Another alternative is a trunk rack with a top tube adapter for step throughs/mixtes.I bought a bar but have never needed to use it yet. Has anyone had any luck with those?Toshi in Oakland On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 4:30 AM Jacob Byard wrote:I’ve got a 1up and a Thule t2. The Thule would not work with fenders. My 1pu is the single bike option and does a great job. Here’s a pic with an xl Gus. Road solid for about 50 miles of interstate and country roads. -JacobSent from my iPhoneOn Feb 20, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Brian Turner wrote:If I had to do it all over, I’d definitely go with a 1up rack. My Küat NV2.0 is great, and I’m fine with how it works with fenders and racks… but I feel like a 1up would be more secure in those cases. Also, my Medium Gus at 50” wheelbase is the absolute maximum length the Küat will handle.On Feb 20, 2023, at 1:05 AM, JAS wrote:The 1Up rack has worked really well for me too. It's spendy, but well made and has worked well with my Clem, Platypus and Bike Friday (all have fenders).JoyceOn Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:38:15 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:We love our 1UP rack and it works pretty well with fenders.On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:24:08 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered Betty. Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders. And the hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through. This isn't for my car. I don't like to drive. Thanks in advance.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-20 Thread Brian Turner

If I had to do it all over, I’d definitely go with a 1up rack. My Küat NV2.0 is great, and I’m fine with how it works with fenders and racks… but I feel like a 1up would be more secure in those cases. Also, my Medium Gus at 50” wheelbase is the absolute maximum length the Küat will handle.On Feb 20, 2023, at 1:05 AM, JAS wrote:The 1Up rack has worked really well for me too. It's spendy, but well made and has worked well with my Clem, Platypus and Bike Friday (all have fenders).JoyceOn Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:38:15 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:We love our 1UP rack and it works pretty well with fenders.On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:24:08 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered Betty. Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders. And the hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through. This isn't for my car. I don't like to drive. Thanks in advance.

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[RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-19 Thread JAS

The 1Up rack has worked really well for me too.  It's spendy, but well made 
and has worked well with my Clem, Platypus and Bike Friday (all have 
fenders).

Joyce

On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:38:15 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:

> We love our 1UP rack and it works pretty well with fenders.
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> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:24:08 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered 
>> Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders.  And the 
>> hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  This 
>> isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.
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[RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-19 Thread JW

We love our 1UP rack and it works pretty well with fenders.

On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:24:08 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered 
> Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders.  And the 
> hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  This 
> isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.

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