Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
My wife, a San Marcos rider would be joining me, but only in MSP. We can't do SF. Another lady who's not on the list, but would be present. :) I agree about doing a run off of locations without splitting the vote between dates. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
Since it is the 20th Anniversary of Rivendell why not celebrate with both locations since separate dates are already being proposed. Although the SF location has a growing lead very few pollsters (only 3 of 60) currently listed a willingness to attend either great state. Conflicts due to proximity or the dates tentatively selected could axe(no pun intended) 20 or more dedicated Rivendell riders and lovers of camping if this is whittled down to a single local. Therefore, I propose both get a nod to proceed, since the poll shows each with a minimum of 20 committed attenders and counting. Let the hosts or their designated poster start a new post or poll to select a date if those are not eched in stone yet. Then over the winter plans and updates can come together as fast or slow as each respective subgroup wants to put things out in hopes of increasing the number each Jamboree. Ryan hoping to pull a double 2014 Jamboree Hankinson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
Ryan writes: Although the SF location has a growing lead very few pollsters (only 3 of 60) currently listed a willingness to attend either great state. I say: in my opinion, this is a mistaken interpretation of the results. I voted for China Camp. That doesn't mean I wouldn't go to Minneapolis. It means I prefer China Camp. If we want to have a National Jamboree, we should have a National Jamboree. It'll require some work and planning. If we instead want to have a get-together at China Camp and another get-together in Minneapolis, like the get-togethers we've been having all along, that's fine, but that's a different thing, a lesser thing. If it's just a matter of oh, there's an event in China Camp in July, and an event in Minneapolis in September, fine, but what makes them different than the get-together that just happened in Southern California, or the get-together in New Jersey earlier this year, or the get-togethers in the Pacific Northwest, or all the other get-togethers we all arrange and post about? Nothing. On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Abcyclehank hankinso...@me.com wrote: Since it is the 20th Anniversary of Rivendell why not celebrate with both locations since separate dates are already being proposed. Although the SF location has a growing lead very few pollsters (only 3 of 60) currently listed a willingness to attend either great state. -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
Of course we should have crazy rides for people who want crazy rides. Point is, we should also mellow rides for people who want mellow rides. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Great thing about these big events is that it gives folks options. I don't mind trying to figure out a ride for those looking for doing something stupid. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:40:51 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Yay for Riv Chicas on new Bettys. And Riv Chicas on other bikes. And I hope and anticipate that we have some rides for people who don't want to do crazy long or crazy fast (or just crazy) rides. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Hugh Smitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: Anne, I voted, however my wife will be joining in as she rides a new Betty. Though she might not be doing the longer rides, then again she is riding more now that she has Betty. I know this doesn't change the men to Riv Chica warrior ratio much but it's a start. Perhaps the others have chica warriors not represented. -Hugh On Aug 22, 2013 10:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.com wrote: The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's fine, I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But looking at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily, Liesl, other chicas? Anyone? On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date. As far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to both and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my significant other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the location in 2015. ~Hugh On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote: 2 people voted for all 3. So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really significant of a difference between the two choices. It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks who want to go to them go to them. Stephen On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for both of them. Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody who voted for China Camp: 22. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com wrote: The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/X4rAXoBEfTs/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
I can think of 3-4 great rides using China Camp as a start-end point and covering a few different types of ride: 1. A mellow ride around the Paradise Loop rollers. Only one medium-size hill along the way. So, a climb out and a climb back in. I would figure the basic loop would be ~25 miles(???), but can be extended with some easy miles and cover a range of great places for a lunch, including a great little seafood shack right out on the pier ;) http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Paradise-Loop http://www.331fish.com/ 2. A medium-effort ride out to Point Reyes and the great Bovine Bakery. Several climbs to deal with, but the scenery is worth it. And none of the hills are killers, though the baked goods may be. http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/point-reyes-loop http://www.thebovinebakery.com/ 3. A harder ride up Mt. Tam either on paved road or trail, followed by the Seven Sisters rollers, the beautiful descent to Alpine Dam, the climb out to beer and sausages in Fairfax, and an easy bit back to China Camp. http://www.strava.com/activities/29392795 http://www.yelp.com/biz/gestalt-haus-fairfax-fairfax 4. A dirt ride: There are lots of single-track-type dirt rides right in China Camp, and many more in the immediate surroundings. http://www.marinfattire.com/chinacampbiketrails.html http://mikesbikes.com/articles/mountain-bike-trails-marin-north-bay-pg126.htm One question I had is it seems many Riv owners own more than one Riv. How many will be packing more than one to the Jamboree? I mention this in hopes of there being some sort of Entmoot called during the event, as that's the only Riv I own. http://arwen-undomiel.com/sc/ttt/Entmoot/Entmoot020.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/visiondrawn/4360903195/ Lee On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: Of course we should have crazy rides for people who want crazy rides. Point is, we should also mellow rides for people who want mellow rides. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Great thing about these big events is that it gives folks options. I don't mind trying to figure out a ride for those looking for doing something stupid. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:40:51 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Yay for Riv Chicas on new Bettys. And Riv Chicas on other bikes. And I hope and anticipate that we have some rides for people who don't want to do crazy long or crazy fast (or just crazy) rides. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Hugh Smitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: Anne, I voted, however my wife will be joining in as she rides a new Betty. Though she might not be doing the longer rides, then again she is riding more now that she has Betty. I know this doesn't change the men to Riv Chica warrior ratio much but it's a start. Perhaps the others have chica warriors not represented. -Hugh On Aug 22, 2013 10:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.com wrote: The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's fine, I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But looking at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily, Liesl, other chicas? Anyone? On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date. As far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to both and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my significant other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the location in 2015. ~Hugh On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote: 2 people voted for all 3. So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really significant of a difference between the two choices. It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks who want to go to them go to them. Stephen On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for both of them. Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody who voted for China Camp: 22. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com wrote: The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
I think we should have a poll based strictly on location. A vote is a vote, if somebody votes for both count both, obviously that person feels they can come no matter what and that fact is important also. When we settle on a location, we can concentrate on dates, rides lodging etc. Marc On Friday, August 23, 2013 1:01:16 AM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's fine, I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But looking at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily, Liesl, other chicas? Anyone? On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date. As far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to both and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my significant other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the location in 2015. ~Hugh On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote: 2 people voted for all 3. So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really significant of a difference between the two choices. It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks who want to go to them go to them. Stephen On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for both of them. Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody who voted for China Camp: 22. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com wrote: The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
I'd really like to go...to either location. But I wouldn't be able to commit until I see how my 2014 travel shakes out. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 11:01:16 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's fine, I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But looking at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily, Liesl, other chicas? Anyone? On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date. As far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to both and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my significant other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the location in 2015. ~Hugh On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote: 2 people voted for all 3. So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really significant of a difference between the two choices. It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks who want to go to them go to them. Stephen On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for both of them. Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody who voted for China Camp: 22. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com wrote: The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
Also, the July 19/20 date conflicts with RAGBRAI, on which I met several RBW bunch folks. Another vote against it for midwesterners. I'd love to make it to Riv HQ for any of these events, but that date rules this one out. Tim On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for both of them. Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody who voted for China Camp: 22. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
I agree that we should be voting on just one MSP date...it would be more fairI think -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
2 people voted for all 3. So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really significant of a difference between the two choices. It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks who want to go to them go to them. Stephen On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for both of them. Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody who voted for China Camp: 22. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date. As far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to both and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my significant other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the location in 2015. ~Hugh On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote: 2 people voted for all 3. So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really significant of a difference between the two choices. It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks who want to go to them go to them. Stephen On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for both of them. Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody who voted for China Camp: 22. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com wrote: The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's fine, I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But looking at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily, Liesl, other chicas? Anyone? On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date. As far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to both and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my significant other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the location in 2015. ~Hugh On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote: 2 people voted for all 3. So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really significant of a difference between the two choices. It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks who want to go to them go to them. Stephen On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for both of them. Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody who voted for China Camp: 22. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com wrote: The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
Anne, I voted, however my wife will be joining in as she rides a new Betty. Though she might not be doing the longer rides, then again she is riding more now that she has Betty. I know this doesn't change the men to Riv Chica warrior ratio much but it's a start. Perhaps the others have chica warriors not represented. -Hugh On Aug 22, 2013 10:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's fine, I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But looking at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily, Liesl, other chicas? Anyone? On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date. As far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to both and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my significant other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the location in 2015. ~Hugh On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote: 2 people voted for all 3. So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really significant of a difference between the two choices. It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks who want to go to them go to them. Stephen On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for both of them. Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody who voted for China Camp: 22. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com wrote: The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/X4rAXoBEfTs/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
The Betty rider in my house was good with SF. I'll have her do an official vote Dan On Aug 22, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Anne, I voted, however my wife will be joining in as she rides a new Betty. Though she might not be doing the longer rides, then again she is riding more now that she has Betty. I know this doesn't change the men to Riv Chica warrior ratio much but it's a start. Perhaps the others have chica warriors not represented. -Hugh On Aug 22, 2013 10:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's fine, I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But looking at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily, Liesl, other chicas? Anyone? On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date. As far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to both and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my significant other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the location in 2015. ~Hugh On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote: 2 people voted for all 3. So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really significant of a difference between the two choices. It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks who want to go to them go to them. Stephen On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for both of them. Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody who voted for China Camp: 22. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com wrote: The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/X4rAXoBEfTs/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
Yay for Riv Chicas on new Bettys. And Riv Chicas on other bikes. And I hope and anticipate that we have some rides for people who don't want to do crazy long or crazy fast (or just crazy) rides. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Anne, I voted, however my wife will be joining in as she rides a new Betty. Though she might not be doing the longer rides, then again she is riding more now that she has Betty. I know this doesn't change the men to Riv Chica warrior ratio much but it's a start. Perhaps the others have chica warriors not represented. -Hugh On Aug 22, 2013 10:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's fine, I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But looking at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily, Liesl, other chicas? Anyone? On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date. As far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to both and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my significant other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the location in 2015. ~Hugh On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote: 2 people voted for all 3. So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really significant of a difference between the two choices. It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks who want to go to them go to them. Stephen On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for both of them. Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody who voted for China Camp: 22. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com wrote: The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/X4rAXoBEfTs/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
Great thing about these big events is that it gives folks options. I don't mind trying to figure out a ride for those looking for doing something stupid. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:40:51 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Yay for Riv Chicas on new Bettys. And Riv Chicas on other bikes. And I hope and anticipate that we have some rides for people who don't want to do crazy long or crazy fast (or just crazy) rides. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Hugh Smitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Anne, I voted, however my wife will be joining in as she rides a new Betty. Though she might not be doing the longer rides, then again she is riding more now that she has Betty. I know this doesn't change the men to Riv Chica warrior ratio much but it's a start. Perhaps the others have chica warriors not represented. -Hugh On Aug 22, 2013 10:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's fine, I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But looking at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily, Liesl, other chicas? Anyone? On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date. As far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to both and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my significant other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the location in 2015. ~Hugh On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote: 2 people voted for all 3. So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really significant of a difference between the two choices. It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks who want to go to them go to them. Stephen On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for both of them. Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody who voted for China Camp: 22. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com wrote: The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/X4rAXoBEfTs/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because