Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp

2013-08-25 Thread Avery Wilson
My wife, a San Marcos rider would be joining me, but only in MSP. We can't do 
SF. Another lady who's not on the list, but would be present. :) 

I agree about doing a run off of locations without splitting the vote between 
dates. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp

2013-08-25 Thread Abcyclehank
Since it is the 20th Anniversary of Rivendell why not celebrate with both 
locations since separate dates are already being proposed.  Although the SF 
location has a growing lead very few pollsters (only 3 of 60) currently listed 
a willingness to attend either great state.  Conflicts due to proximity or the 
dates tentatively selected could axe(no pun intended) 20 or more dedicated 
Rivendell riders and lovers of camping if this is whittled down to a single 
local.  
Therefore, I propose both get a nod to proceed, since the poll shows each with 
a minimum of 20 committed attenders and counting.  

Let the hosts or their designated poster start a new post or poll to select a 
date if those are not eched in stone yet. Then over the winter plans and 
updates can come together as fast or slow as each respective subgroup wants to 
put things out in hopes of increasing the number each Jamboree.

Ryan hoping to pull a double 2014 Jamboree Hankinson

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp

2013-08-25 Thread Anne Paulson
Ryan writes: Although the SF location has a growing lead very few
pollsters (only 3 of 60) currently listed a willingness to attend
either great state.

I say: in my opinion, this is a mistaken interpretation of the
results. I voted for China Camp. That doesn't mean I wouldn't go to
Minneapolis. It means I prefer China Camp.

If we want to have a National Jamboree, we should have a National
Jamboree. It'll require some work and planning. If we instead want to
have a get-together at China Camp and another get-together in
Minneapolis, like the get-togethers we've been having all along,
that's fine, but that's a different thing, a lesser thing.

If it's just a matter of oh, there's an event in China Camp in July,
and an event in Minneapolis in September, fine, but what makes them
different than the get-together that just happened in Southern
California, or the get-together in New Jersey earlier this year, or
the get-togethers in the Pacific Northwest, or all the other
get-togethers we all arrange and post about? Nothing.

On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Abcyclehank hankinso...@me.com wrote:
 Since it is the 20th Anniversary of Rivendell why not celebrate with both 
 locations since separate dates are already being proposed.  Although the SF 
 location has a growing lead very few pollsters (only 3 of 60) currently 
 listed a willingness to attend either great state.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp

2013-08-23 Thread Anne Paulson
Of course we should have crazy rides for people who want crazy rides.
Point is, we should also mellow rides for people who want mellow
rides.

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Manuel Acosta
manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Great thing about these big events is that it gives folks options.
 I don't mind trying to figure out a ride for those looking for doing
 something stupid.


 On Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:40:51 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 Yay for Riv Chicas on new Bettys. And Riv Chicas on other bikes.

 And I hope and anticipate that we have some rides for people who don't
 want to do crazy long or crazy fast (or just crazy) rides.

 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Hugh Smitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote:
  Anne,
 
  I voted, however my wife will be joining in as she rides a new Betty.
  Though
  she might not be doing the longer rides, then again she is riding more
  now
  that she has Betty. I know this doesn't change the men to Riv Chica
  warrior
  ratio much but it's a start. Perhaps the others have chica warriors not
  represented.
 
  -Hugh
 
  On Aug 22, 2013 10:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's fine,
  I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But looking
  at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than
  women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily,
  Liesl, other chicas? Anyone?
 
  On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote:
   FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the
   date.
   As
   far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to
   both
   and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my
   significant
   other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the
   location in
   2015.
  
   ~Hugh
  
  
   On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote:
  
   2 people voted for all 3.
  
   So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really
   significant of a difference between the two choices.
  
   It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the
   other. I
   think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the
   folks
   who
   want to go to them go to them.
  
   Stephen
  
   On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
  
   Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two
   MSP
   options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted
   for
   both of them.  Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17.
   Everybody
   who voted for China Camp: 22.
  
  
  
   On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
   thil...@gmail.com wrote:
The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option.
Maybe
there
should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO
date.
   
   
On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson
wrote:
   
The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right
now,
among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14.
   
Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to
implement?
   
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp

2013-08-23 Thread Lee Chae
I can think of 3-4 great rides using China Camp as a start-end point and
covering a few different types of ride:

1. A mellow ride around the Paradise Loop rollers. Only one medium-size
hill along the way. So, a climb out and a climb back in. I would figure the
basic loop would be ~25 miles(???), but can be extended with some easy
miles and cover a range of great places for a lunch, including a great
little seafood shack right out on the pier ;)

http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Paradise-Loop
http://www.331fish.com/

2. A medium-effort ride out to Point Reyes and the great Bovine Bakery.
Several climbs to deal with, but the scenery is worth it. And none of the
hills are killers, though the baked goods may be.

http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/point-reyes-loop
http://www.thebovinebakery.com/

3. A harder ride up Mt. Tam either on paved road or trail, followed by the
Seven Sisters rollers, the beautiful descent to Alpine Dam, the climb out
to beer and sausages in Fairfax, and an easy bit back to China Camp.

http://www.strava.com/activities/29392795
http://www.yelp.com/biz/gestalt-haus-fairfax-fairfax

4. A dirt ride: There are lots of single-track-type dirt rides right in
China Camp, and many more in the immediate surroundings.

http://www.marinfattire.com/chinacampbiketrails.html
http://mikesbikes.com/articles/mountain-bike-trails-marin-north-bay-pg126.htm

One question I had is it seems many Riv owners own more than one Riv. How
many will be packing more than one to the Jamboree? I mention this in hopes
of there being some sort of Entmoot called during the event, as that's the
only Riv I own.

http://arwen-undomiel.com/sc/ttt/Entmoot/Entmoot020.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/visiondrawn/4360903195/

Lee


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote:

 Of course we should have crazy rides for people who want crazy rides.
 Point is, we should also mellow rides for people who want mellow
 rides.

 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Manuel Acosta
 manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Great thing about these big events is that it gives folks options.
  I don't mind trying to figure out a ride for those looking for doing
  something stupid.
 
 
  On Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:40:51 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
 
  Yay for Riv Chicas on new Bettys. And Riv Chicas on other bikes.
 
  And I hope and anticipate that we have some rides for people who don't
  want to do crazy long or crazy fast (or just crazy) rides.
 
  On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Hugh Smitham hughs...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Anne,
  
   I voted, however my wife will be joining in as she rides a new Betty.
   Though
   she might not be doing the longer rides, then again she is riding more
   now
   that she has Betty. I know this doesn't change the men to Riv Chica
   warrior
   ratio much but it's a start. Perhaps the others have chica warriors
 not
   represented.
  
   -Hugh
  
   On Aug 22, 2013 10:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's
 fine,
   I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But
 looking
   at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than
   women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily,
   Liesl, other chicas? Anyone?
  
   On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com
 wrote:
FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the
date.
As
far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go
 to
both
and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my
significant
other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the
location in
2015.
   
~Hugh
   
   
On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote:
   
2 people voted for all 3.
   
So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't
 really
significant of a difference between the two choices.
   
It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the
other. I
think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the
folks
who
want to go to them go to them.
   
Stephen
   
On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
   
Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two
MSP
options combined have more votes only because lots of people
 voted
for
both of them.  Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17.
Everybody
who voted for China Camp: 22.
   
   
   
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thil...@gmail.com wrote:
 The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF
 option.
 Maybe
 there
 should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO
 date.


 On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson
 wrote:

 The poll has always had the 

Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp

2013-08-23 Thread Marc Irwin
I think we should have a poll based strictly on location.  A vote is a 
vote, if somebody votes for both count both, obviously that person feels 
they can come no matter what and that fact is important also.  When we 
settle on a location, we can concentrate on dates, rides lodging etc.

Marc

On Friday, August 23, 2013 1:01:16 AM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote:

 The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's fine, 
 I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But looking 
 at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than 
 women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily, 
 Liesl, other chicas? Anyone? 

 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date. 
 As 
  far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to 
 both 
  and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my 
 significant 
  other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the 
 location in 
  2015. 
  
  ~Hugh 
  
  
  On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote: 
  
  2 people voted for all 3. 
  
  So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really 
  significant of a difference between the two choices. 
  
  It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I 
  think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks 
 who 
  want to go to them go to them. 
  
  Stephen 
  
  On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: 
  
  Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP 
  options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for 
  both of them.  Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody 
  who voted for China Camp: 22. 
  
  
  
  On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
  thil...@gmail.com wrote: 
   The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. 
 Maybe 
   there 
   should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. 
   
   
   On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: 
   
   The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right 
 now, 
   among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. 
   
   Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? 
   
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp

2013-08-23 Thread DianeB
I'd really like to go...to either location.  But I wouldn't be able to 
commit until I see how my 2014 travel shakes out.


On Thursday, August 22, 2013 11:01:16 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:

 The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's fine, 
 I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But looking 
 at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than 
 women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily, 
 Liesl, other chicas? Anyone? 

 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date. 
 As 
  far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to 
 both 
  and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my 
 significant 
  other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the 
 location in 
  2015. 
  
  ~Hugh 
  
  
  On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote: 
  
  2 people voted for all 3. 
  
  So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really 
  significant of a difference between the two choices. 
  
  It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I 
  think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks 
 who 
  want to go to them go to them. 
  
  Stephen 
  
  On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: 
  
  Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP 
  options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for 
  both of them.  Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody 
  who voted for China Camp: 22. 
  
  
  
  On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
  thil...@gmail.com wrote: 
   The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. 
 Maybe 
   there 
   should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. 
   
   
   On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: 
   
   The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right 
 now, 
   among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. 
   
   Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? 
   
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[RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp

2013-08-22 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe 
there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date.

On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote:

 The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, 
 among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. 

 Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp

2013-08-22 Thread Tim Gavin
Also, the July 19/20 date conflicts with RAGBRAI, on which I met several
RBW bunch folks.  Another vote against it for midwesterners.  I'd love to
make it to Riv HQ for any of these events, but that date rules this one out.

Tim


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
thill@gmail.com wrote:

 The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe
 there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date.


 On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote:

 The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now,
 among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14.

 Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp

2013-08-22 Thread Anne Paulson
Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP
options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for
both of them.  Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody
who voted for China Camp: 22.



On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thill@gmail.com wrote:
 The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there
 should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date.


 On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote:

 The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now,
 among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14.

 Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp

2013-08-22 Thread PeterG
I agree that we should be voting on just one MSP date...it would be more 
fairI think

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp

2013-08-22 Thread Stephen S
2 people voted for all 3. 

So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really 
significant of a difference between the two choices. 

It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I 
think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks who 
want to go to them go to them. 

Stephen

On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP 
 options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for 
 both of them.  Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody 
 who voted for China Camp: 22. 



 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
 thil...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: 
  The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe 
 there 
  should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. 
  
  
  On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: 
  
  The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, 
  among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. 
  
  Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? 
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp

2013-08-22 Thread hsmitham
FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date. As 
far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to both 
and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my 
significant other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be 
the location in 2015.

~Hugh

On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote:

 2 people voted for all 3. 

 So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really 
 significant of a difference between the two choices. 

 It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I 
 think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks who 
 want to go to them go to them. 

 Stephen

 On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP 
 options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for 
 both of them.  Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody 
 who voted for China Camp: 22. 



 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
 thil...@gmail.com wrote: 
  The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe 
 there 
  should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. 
  
  
  On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: 
  
  The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, 
  among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. 
  
  Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? 
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp

2013-08-22 Thread Anne Paulson
The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's fine,
I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But looking
at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than
women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily,
Liesl, other chicas? Anyone?

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:
 FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date. As
 far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to both
 and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my significant
 other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the location in
 2015.

 ~Hugh


 On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote:

 2 people voted for all 3.

 So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really
 significant of a difference between the two choices.

 It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I
 think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks who
 want to go to them go to them.

 Stephen

 On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP
 options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for
 both of them.  Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody
 who voted for China Camp: 22.



 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
 thil...@gmail.com wrote:
  The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe
  there
  should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date.
 
 
  On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote:
 
  The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now,
  among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14.
 
  Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement?
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp

2013-08-22 Thread Hugh Smitham
Anne,

I voted, however my wife will be joining in as she rides a new Betty.
Though she might not be doing the longer rides, then again she is riding
more now that she has Betty. I know this doesn't change the men to Riv
Chica warrior ratio much but it's a start. Perhaps the others have chica
warriors not represented.

-Hugh
On Aug 22, 2013 10:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:

 The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's fine,
 I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But looking
 at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than
 women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily,
 Liesl, other chicas? Anyone?

 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:
  FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date.
 As
  far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to
 both
  and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my
 significant
  other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the
 location in
  2015.
 
  ~Hugh
 
 
  On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote:
 
  2 people voted for all 3.
 
  So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really
  significant of a difference between the two choices.
 
  It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I
  think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks
 who
  want to go to them go to them.
 
  Stephen
 
  On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
 
  Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP
  options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for
  both of them.  Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody
  who voted for China Camp: 22.
 
 
 
  On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
  thil...@gmail.com wrote:
   The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option.
 Maybe
   there
   should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date.
  
  
   On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote:
  
   The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now,
   among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14.
  
   Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement?
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp

2013-08-22 Thread Dan McNamara
The Betty rider in my house was good with SF. I'll have her do an official vote

Dan

On Aug 22, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anne,
 
 I voted, however my wife will be joining in as she rides a new Betty. Though 
 she might not be doing the longer rides, then again she is riding more now 
 that she has Betty. I know this doesn't change the men to Riv Chica warrior 
 ratio much but it's a start. Perhaps the others have chica warriors not 
 represented.
 
 -Hugh
 
 On Aug 22, 2013 10:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
 The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's fine,
 I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But looking
 at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than
 women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily,
 Liesl, other chicas? Anyone?
 
 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:
  FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date. As
  far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to both
  and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my 
  significant
  other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the location 
  in
  2015.
 
  ~Hugh
 
 
  On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote:
 
  2 people voted for all 3.
 
  So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really
  significant of a difference between the two choices.
 
  It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I
  think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks who
  want to go to them go to them.
 
  Stephen
 
  On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
 
  Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP
  options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for
  both of them.  Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody
  who voted for China Camp: 22.
 
 
 
  On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
  thil...@gmail.com wrote:
   The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe
   there
   should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date.
  
  
   On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote:
  
   The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now,
   among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14.
  
   Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement?
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp

2013-08-22 Thread Anne Paulson
Yay for Riv Chicas on new Bettys. And Riv Chicas on other bikes.

And I hope and anticipate that we have some rides for people who don't
want to do crazy long or crazy fast (or just crazy) rides.

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anne,

 I voted, however my wife will be joining in as she rides a new Betty. Though
 she might not be doing the longer rides, then again she is riding more now
 that she has Betty. I know this doesn't change the men to Riv Chica warrior
 ratio much but it's a start. Perhaps the others have chica warriors not
 represented.

 -Hugh

 On Aug 22, 2013 10:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:

 The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's fine,
 I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But looking
 at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than
 women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily,
 Liesl, other chicas? Anyone?

 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:
  FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date.
  As
  far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to
  both
  and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my
  significant
  other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the
  location in
  2015.
 
  ~Hugh
 
 
  On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote:
 
  2 people voted for all 3.
 
  So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really
  significant of a difference between the two choices.
 
  It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I
  think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks
  who
  want to go to them go to them.
 
  Stephen
 
  On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
 
  Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP
  options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for
  both of them.  Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody
  who voted for China Camp: 22.
 
 
 
  On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
  thil...@gmail.com wrote:
   The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option.
   Maybe
   there
   should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date.
  
  
   On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote:
  
   The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right
   now,
   among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14.
  
   Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement?
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp

2013-08-22 Thread Manuel Acosta
Great thing about these big events is that it gives folks options. 
I don't mind trying to figure out a ride for those looking for doing 
something stupid.


On Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:40:51 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 Yay for Riv Chicas on new Bettys. And Riv Chicas on other bikes. 

 And I hope and anticipate that we have some rides for people who don't 
 want to do crazy long or crazy fast (or just crazy) rides. 

 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Hugh Smitham 
 hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  Anne, 
  
  I voted, however my wife will be joining in as she rides a new Betty. 
 Though 
  she might not be doing the longer rides, then again she is riding more 
 now 
  that she has Betty. I know this doesn't change the men to Riv Chica 
 warrior 
  ratio much but it's a start. Perhaps the others have chica warriors not 
  represented. 
  
  -Hugh 
  
  On Aug 22, 2013 10:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  
  The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's fine, 
  I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But looking 
  at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than 
  women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily, 
  Liesl, other chicas? Anyone? 
  
  On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham 
  hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
   FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the 
 date. 
   As 
   far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to 
   both 
   and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my 
   significant 
   other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the 
   location in 
   2015. 
   
   ~Hugh 
   
   
   On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote: 
   
   2 people voted for all 3. 
   
   So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really 
   significant of a difference between the two choices. 
   
   It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the 
 other. I 
   think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the 
 folks 
   who 
   want to go to them go to them. 
   
   Stephen 
   
   On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: 
   
   Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two 
 MSP 
   options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted 
 for 
   both of them.  Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. 
 Everybody 
   who voted for China Camp: 22. 
   
   
   
   On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
   thil...@gmail.com wrote: 
The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. 
Maybe 
there 
should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO 
 date. 


On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson 
 wrote: 

The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right 
now, 
among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. 

Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to 
 implement? 

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