Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Yeah I need to get off my arse and get that done. I bought two Nitto cages with 
nifty clear/red Riv bottles from a listmember and they've been sitting for 
weeks. Soon! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Jason Fuller]

I'm just mad the Bombadil isn't enroute to me.  Great looking bikes all 
around.  Although your custom looks nekkid without at least one bottle 
cage, in my opinion!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[☆ Paul ☆]

What a bike!

On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 4:27:51 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Btw I know the cable loops are way long at the front. This is room for if 
> I ever run a bag there, plus I like that the cables don't pull tight on all 
> that pretty paint. I got reasons! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Btw I know the cable loops are way long at the front. This is room for if I 
ever run a bag there, plus I like that the cables don't pull tight on all that 
pretty paint. I got reasons! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

I'm ready, Roberta! 

Doug: So far on a couple short rides I've been very impressed with the Berthoud 
(although *someone* we know thinks Brooks looks better, I won't say her name 
). I hop on and it feels hard as a rock and it's like "uh oh", then a minute 
later..nothing. It just disappears like it's all broken in. Amazing! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Doug H.]

Joe,
That saddle is like black glass...so smooth looking. I really like the gray
sidewall tires too. Classy.
Doug

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> Let's try that again.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/WLqTM6tYGtkHsB4V6
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Roberta]

I hope your lockdown ends soon and you can enjoy your bikes outside!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Paul Clifton]

Now I get it. Freaking sweet Joe!

Paul in NW AR

On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 6:24:32 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Let's try that again. 
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/WLqTM6tYGtkHsB4V6
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Let's try that again. 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/WLqTM6tYGtkHsB4V6

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

New pics! Of my still pristine custom which Grant would be appalled by but 
these COVID times have not been good for my riding opportunities, whaddyagonna 路

Some changes, I went on a bit of a Shimano NOS spending spree. The chrome-look 
brakes ended up looking odd to me against the flat gray frame so they were 
replaced by black (silver lever handle) XT. The Deore rd also got an XT 
upgrade, and check out those nifty NOS XTR skewers! 

Ergons swapped for Jones Grips, and that's my sweet new ti-rail Gilles Berthoud 
Vars saddle. 

Here's a neat thing I recently discovered: I was wiping chain grease off the 
chainstay and pondering sticking a guard on there when I realized Joe Bell 
already did. It wraps most of the tube, then if you look real close you can see 
a cut line where a second clear guard fits behind the chainrings. Cool! 

Next up, I grabbed the "lost and found" Bosco Bullmoose on the Riv site. This 
frame was designed with Boscos in mind so they're going on, and the Losco setup 
will end up on the Bombadil I just bought. Enjoy the pics!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/J5yBt1KKFCZvJxzy5

Joe Bernard

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Eric Floden]

O, beausavage!

Love it, thanks

EricF
Vancouver-The-Rainy

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[ascpgh]

After my Rambouillet's brake bridge broke loose and I had it repaired 
locally, I investigated respray of the sparkly candy orange and cream color 
scheme with the same ($1200-ish) response. Having had the bike since new, 
replacing the drive side dropout and then rebrazing the brake bridge I 
thought I'd aim that sum toward a down payment on a new frame. There's 
still enough of the Joe Bell finish to amaze and it has projected Grant's 
"beausage" to my "beausavage". 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 3:43:38 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Dude I know, the $1200 estimate kinda freaked me out. What if I scratch 
> it?! (That's an inside shoutout to a friend who knows how OCD I am about 
> scratches and mocks me mercilessly for it).
>
> I don't actually know the price either - I just paid the full 
> frame-with-paint cost - but every dollar is visible. The attention to 
> detail on those cream lines in and around the lugs will make your eyes 
> water. Pure art, Joe Bell is the master. I waited 30 years to get one of 
> his masterpieces since first discovering him in Bicycle Guide, and I don't 
> recommend the wait. You got a bike that needs paint? Send it to Joe, pay 
> whatever he asks! 
>

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

My hands wouldn't tolerate drops either, and this long front end would need an 
Analog Cycles 0° stem to do it, but it would look so cool! 

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[eddietheflay]

Hello Joe,

What a beauty. My hands ache but I can still ride electronic shifting bikes 
and still love to ride drop bars. I know this won't happen...probably, but 
was thinking about what your bike might look like with drop bars. My bet 
unique and gorgeous.

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:54:51 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Who wants to see pretty Joe Bell paint on a custom Rivendell 
> not-quite-a-mixte? You do, that's who!*
>
> *pics sent from JB, I don't have the frame yet 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Dude I know, the $1200 estimate kinda freaked me out. What if I scratch it?! 
(That's an inside shoutout to a friend who knows how OCD I am about scratches 
and mocks me mercilessly for it).

I don't actually know the price either - I just paid the full frame-with-paint 
cost - but every dollar is visible. The attention to detail on those cream 
lines in and around the lugs will make your eyes water. Pure art, Joe Bell is 
the master. I waited 30 years to get one of his masterpieces since first 
discovering him in Bicycle Guide, and I don't recommend the wait. You got a 
bike that needs paint? Send it to Joe, pay whatever he asks! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[DHans]

Joe,
That was a fun read about your custom. A $1,200 paint job, wow! It does 
look to be meticulously done and such a nice color combination. 
Doug

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> My frame is in the new Blahg with lots of cool notes about the incredible 
> Joe Bell paint. If you've ever wondered if it would be cool to get a custom 
> Rivendell then have it featured on the Blahg, the answer is it's very cool! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

My frame is in the new Blahg with lots of cool notes about the incredible Joe 
Bell paint. If you've ever wondered if it would be cool to get a custom 
Rivendell then have it featured on the Blahg, the answer is it's very cool! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joseph Bernard]

Indeed David, this is happening as we speak. The cables/housing are on
their normal sides, then they cross over in front of the headtube (with
room to spare, I cut the housing long) to reach the swapped shifters. All
good 

On Thu, May 14, 2020, 11:58 AM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> Joe,
> If you set this up to have two shifters and you keep the rear shifter on
> the left, cross the housings in front of the head tube and keep the wires
> on their respective sides of the down tube. They won't interfere with the
> paint or the 3rd water bottle bosses and the routing will keep the housings
> away from the head tube. It's an ideal situation for that configuration!
> (If they don't fight the brake cables, interfere with a bag, etc.)
> I use Steve's rubber sleeves, too, on head tubes. They have a slit for
> installation and can go on anywhere without disconnecting cables. (JagWire?)
> Also, get some helicopter tape for places where there may be some
> occasional rubbing and as a chain slap guard.
>
> David Lipsky
>
> On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 11:30:23 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Update: Hey Pancake, remember you were concerned about the shifter cable
>> being too close to the downtube (which I inexplicably called a toptube in
>> my response)? Whelp, you meant the cable wire when I thought you meant the
>> housing that always rubs on headtubes. I'm in the process of swapping
>> things around to have two shifters and holy crap the wire was right on the
>> paint!
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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Joe,
If you set this up to have two shifters and you keep the rear shifter on 
the left, cross the housings in front of the head tube and keep the wires 
on their respective sides of the down tube. They won't interfere with the 
paint or the 3rd water bottle bosses and the routing will keep the housings 
away from the head tube. It's an ideal situation for that configuration! 
(If they don't fight the brake cables, interfere with a bag, etc.)
I use Steve's rubber sleeves, too, on head tubes. They have a slit for 
installation and can go on anywhere without disconnecting cables. (JagWire?)
Also, get some helicopter tape for places where there may be some 
occasional rubbing and as a chain slap guard.

David Lipsky

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 11:30:23 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Update: Hey Pancake, remember you were concerned about the shifter cable 
> being too close to the downtube (which I inexplicably called a toptube in 
> my response)? Whelp, you meant the cable wire when I thought you meant the 
> housing that always rubs on headtubes. I'm in the process of swapping 
> things around to have two shifters and holy crap the wire was right on the 
> paint! 

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Update: Hey Pancake, remember you were concerned about the shifter cable being 
too close to the downtube (which I inexplicably called a toptube in my 
response)? Whelp, you meant the cable wire when I thought you meant the housing 
that always rubs on headtubes. I'm in the process of swapping things around to 
have two shifters and holy crap the wire was right on the paint! I really 
should have looked closer when you mentioned this. Fortunately Joe Bell paint 
is pretty tough and I haven't shifted much yet so I didn't scratch anything. 
Sheesh! 

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Ooh, that's gorgeous. Melanie Yolles mentioned that my paint reminded her of 
vintage road bikes, now I see it! 

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Thanks Ray and David, I'm over the moon about it. SUPER comfy! 

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Crisp, clean and quite beautiful!
Yes, that stem works better with the Losco bars.

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Ray Varella]

That’s really nice Joe. 

It looks like it will clear a pretty fat tire. 
It’s got comfort written all over it. 

Ray

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

I also should add - pursuant to my comment to Will - the Loscos really don't 
have a reason to exist that can't be accomplished with a slammed stem and a 
Bosco. I like them because they look COOL. 

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Thanks Ann! 

I think the Loscos compare favorably to Albatross and Choco, which are in the 
Billie range. Not so much Bosco because even though they're derived from that 
shape, they're cut down so much as to be a very different bar. Which is a fact 
I mentioned to Will @ Riv when I first saw them, Nitto took a bar designed for 
big height and knocked the big height out of it! 

Pedals are Deity Black Kat, which is all I use. I get them from James and 
Candice at Analog Cycles. 

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Joe:

I really like how the bike turned out.  The colors are striking and remind 
me of vintage 70's bikes (in a good way).  How do the Losco's compare to 
other handlebars?  I had either them or Billie bars in mind for my next 
bike.  I really like the comfort of my Bosco's on my Appaloosa and would 
like something in that range.  Also, what pedals are those?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Holy crap there's hearts in the RBW decal. I didn't even notice that! 

I confess I'm surprised anyone noticed a tall stem. Don't ALL Rivs have a tall 
stem?? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Joe,

I like the triple heart ❤️ ❤️ ❤️alignment on the seat tube.  Nicely imitated 
and passed along to others as well.  

I have seen many of your bikes with similar stem exposure and think it is fine 
and obviously serves your needs.  However since so many observers think you 
should switch to Boscos to reduce the visual effect for observers not riding 
the bike, send me the Loscos and I will ship you the lugged custom stem for 
Frank.

JK but not really.  

Sincerely,
Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

J: I've never been good at retaining the common numbers for tube diameters, but 
they look to my eye like what was on my Appaloosa. I suspect the tubes are a 
lighter spec than that touring frame, though, it felt lighter in my hand. 

No racks or fenders for now, my current somewhat limited riding situation 
doesn't have use for them so I'm just going to ride it as is with bar and seat 
bags. One thing I need is a kickstand, I forgot to order it! 

Pancake: The DXR brakes work great (like every Shimano v-brake ever made), and 
look swanky. I actually had a note expensive brake set aside for this 
(Bombshell) but they're black and I got suckered into the chrome w/black on the 
DXR brakes and levers so here we are. Chrome, baby!

The shifter cable isn't rubbing the toptube, but will certainly wear on the 
headtube over time. I'm kinda in Leah's camp (and Grant's) on this one: pretty 
(and pricey) paint is nice, but the reality is it's just cover over tubes for a 
product you use outdoors for fun and exercise. I'm notoriously OCD about 
scratches and am learning from those two folks that it's no way to live! So the 
cable will get shortened - it looks ridiculous right now - and that will pull 
it away a bit, but cable rub happens.   

Yep, Clem 650B wheels with terrible Kenda Kwick tires because I had them 
around. I'll get fancy wheels befitting a custom frame later, but honestly 
these are fine. Only vanity prevents me from just leaving them there 

Pancake and Jesse: I didn't spec the headtube height, I just told Grant what I 
needed out of a bike - the toptube placement is my spec - and let him do his 
thing. The headtube is high enough I think without having that "it's way higher 
that the seattube" look..I like the symmetry there. The plan (which Grant knew) 
was for Boscos, which would drop that stem some. But I grabbed these Loscos 
recently and don't mind the long stem so I plopped them on the custom to see 
how it goes because they're cool!

Thanks for all the nice thoughts and compliments, everybody! Even Leah's, 
although she thinks it's too pretty and I should go lean it on a pole 

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Jesse]

Hi Joe. Lot of stem! May I ask why not a longer head tube (and/or toptube)?

Either way, that thing is tremendous and you have very fine taste in 
bicycles.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Leah Peterson]

Wow, it looks great, even if a bit too pristine. Worry not, I’m sure you’ll 
ding that Joe Bell paint soon, and then it will really be perfect! 

Oh, I kid. It looks really good and I love that saddle. Now you can go get to 
know it; that part always takes some time but it’s so fun building a 
relationship with your bike. As much as I love my Clementine, I don’t have the 
trust with it that I had with my old Betty Foy. Old bikes are like old friends; 
you can enjoy them with no surprises. 

Enjoy it and ride the wheels off. 

Sent from my iPad

> On May 7, 2020, at 10:12 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> It's done! Grant was right, it took me most of the week 
> Well it's starter done, you know how that goes. Cables are too long because I 
> might swap the Loscos for the intended Boscos, but this felt really good 
> today. Still need a fd and another chainring or two, but I'm not in a hurry 
> for that. 
> 
> It's perfect. Comfortable, beautiful, with a nice springy ride..basically 
> it's a Rivendell. But a Rivendell built to my size and riding style, with my 
> CRAZY-good-looking choice of Joe Bell paint. I'm so glad I finally did this, 
> I love it!
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/48n9n7QNsrJRZBns6
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Pancake]

Looks fantastic Joe! How do you like those DXR  MX70 brakes? 

I read about you having the rear shifter on the British side, but does the 
cable on the down tube touch or run the frame at all? Looks so close in the 
photos and wouldn’t want that Joe Bell paint to see a scuff. 

Clem wheels and tires on it too? 

Love those Losco bars, shows lots of stem but the bars look ideal. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[j.schwartz]

What are the approximate sizes for the tubes here?
Did you spec the wheel size or did GP ? 
Plans for racks? Looks great.



On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 9:13:35 AM UTC-4, Bill Schairer wrote:
>
> “ It's perfect. Comfortable, beautiful, with a nice springy 
> ride..basically it's a Rivendell. But a Rivendell built to my size and 
> riding style, with my CRAZY-good-looking choice of Joe Bell paint. I'm so 
> glad I finally did this, I love it!” 
>
> Joe, 
>
> I had a custom touring bike built for me in 1978 and it is still the bike 
> I ride the most.  42 years plus what you expressed  is what makes it so so 
> worth it.  Congratulations.  That is YOUR bike and nobody else has one. 
>
> Bill S 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Bill Schairer]

“ It's perfect. Comfortable, beautiful, with a nice springy ride..basically 
it's a Rivendell. But a Rivendell built to my size and riding style, with my 
CRAZY-good-looking choice of Joe Bell paint. I'm so glad I finally did this, I 
love it!”

Joe,

I had a custom touring bike built for me in 1978 and it is still the bike I 
ride the most.  42 years plus what you expressed  is what makes it so so worth 
it.  Congratulations.  That is YOUR bike and nobody else has one.

Bill S 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Roberta]

It's SO nice.  I bet you had a most fun week building that.  I hope you have an 
equally fun weekend riding it.  Post pics of the lake or wherever else you go.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

A few of you will notice the unconventional shifter placement. I have basal 
arthritis which is (so far) confined to my right hand. I shift the lotta-gears 
with my left hand, if I use a fd I put that shifter on the right because I'm 
not shifting the front very often. Looks kinda wonky, but I can ride my bike! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

John: I don't know but the plan was for it to be a smidge higher than, say, a 
55cm Cheviot. So it's almost-a-mixte, or as a mixte-fan-friend put it today, 
"It's a mixte, Joe, I don't care what you say." 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

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Joe

Beautiful frame/fork and very nice build.

Do you know the upslope angle of the Top Tube???  Looks fairly steep, 
almost as much as a mixte.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

It's done! Grant was right, it took me most of the week 
Well it's starter done, you know how that goes. Cables are too long because I 
might swap the Loscos for the intended Boscos, but this felt really good today. 
Still need a fd and another chainring or two, but I'm not in a hurry for that. 

It's perfect. Comfortable, beautiful, with a nice springy ride..basically it's 
a Rivendell. But a Rivendell built to my size and riding style, with my 
CRAZY-good-looking choice of Joe Bell paint. I'm so glad I finally did this, I 
love it!
 https://photos.app.goo.gl/48n9n7QNsrJRZBns6

 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Mark: Yes, Tom Cruise and I have a lot in common, we like fast cars and are the 
same age. Too bad about his looks, though...

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Roberta]

Subconscious.  Whether you realize it or not, you made those choices based 
on your likes.  



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>
> Roberta: Completely unconscious. It started as the idea from Mark @ Riv's 
> custom, which later became the original Hunqapillar scheme. Then I 
> brightened it up based on the Kirk frame I saw. I like cars and car racing, 
> but had no idea that connection would be made by people who know me and 
> looked at the bike. Pretty cool! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Mark Roland]

So I guess that would make you...

https://youtu.be/UyW8FdzH9dg

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 1:46:04 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>  Last night my daughter said the paint "looks like a vintage Formula One 
> racer." This morning a friend (also a ladyperson) said "It looks like it 
> belongs to someone who likes cars." I feel seen! 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Roberta: Completely unconscious. It started as the idea from Mark @ Riv's 
custom, which later became the original Hunqapillar scheme. Then I brightened 
it up based on the Kirk frame I saw. I like cars and car racing, but had no 
idea that connection would be made by people who know me and looked at the 
bike. Pretty cool! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Roberta]

Joe,

You know I love the look of your bike and I appreciate the photos you've 
shared.  Cannot wait to see the final build and hear about your maiden ride.

I know you are a car lover from way back; was it conscious or unconscious 
that you choose those colors?

Roberta

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 1:46:04 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Mark: Where we're going, we don't NEED drivetrains. 
>
> Doug: Hehe, I've never named a bike. Maybe I should ask Grant for one of 
> his names he comes up with to see what this one would be called. 
>
> Ryan: Thanks man, much appreciated. 
>
> Here's an interesting aside: Last night my daughter said the paint "looks 
> like a vintage Formula One racer." This morning a friend (also a 
> ladyperson) said "It looks like it belongs to someone who likes cars." I 
> feel seen! 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Mark: Where we're going, we don't NEED drivetrains. 

Doug: Hehe, I've never named a bike. Maybe I should ask Grant for one of his 
names he comes up with to see what this one would be called. 

Ryan: Thanks man, much appreciated. 

Here's an interesting aside: Last night my daughter said the paint "looks like 
a vintage Formula One racer." This morning a friend (also a ladyperson) said 
"It looks like it belongs to someone who likes cars." I feel seen! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Joe

Thank you for sharing you custom, builds, ebike expertise, and personal 
opinions on this list and privately; you are cherished for your genuineness and 
candor.  Stay safe and enjoy your bike world it is much needed during these 
times.

Sincerely,
Ryan
West Michigan

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[DHans]

Regarding names, I'll make the first suggestion...The Ptubeless Pterodactyl?
Doug


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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[DHans]

Joe,
That's a fine looking bike my friend. The paint colors are spot on. You 
need to name it!!
Doug

On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 10:10:58 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> It's here, live and in color! 
>
> On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 5:30:32 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: 
> > That might work, Roberta. I just need the see it live in person and 
> built up first..even to my "love the neons" eyes I'm a little surprised how 
> *bright* the red looks. I don't want to overdo it with red parts, too, but 
> we'll see. As Leah says, how can you have too much red??!  
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Mark Roland]

The reason it looks so modern and fresh is it has the Neutron Posi-flow 
Hypodrive Airshaft System installed, so you don't get all that clutter of 
cranks, derailleurs, chain, pedals, cables, etc. Leave it to Joe to be on 
the Rivendell cutting edge.

On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 11:30:19 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
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> See, this bike looks modern to me...and I like that about it. Sometimes I 
> think Riv’s bikes (though gorgeous) look a bit dated, but this is a fresh 
> take that retains the Rivendell DNA. This could catch on! 
>
> But I drive around with overinflated tires, so what do I know... 
>
> Hurry up and build this bike my clothes are going out of style! 
>
> Sent from my iPhone 
>
> > On May 5, 2020, at 7:51 PM, Joe Bernard > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Way up! But probably not staying that way, this was just to get bars 
> and my repair stand post in the frame so I could take pics of it sorta 
> looking like a ridable bicycle. The saddle will be lower for sure. Stay 
> tuned! 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Thanks Joyce! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[JAS]

It's a beauty, Joe.  Congratulations!

On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 8:53:53 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> "Hurry up and build this bike my clothes are going out of style!"
>
> Funny story about that: Grant asked me when I was going to finish the 
> build and I said "by midnight." He laughed and shook his head 'no' and I 
> asked when HE thought I would be finished. He said, "In a few days." Riv 
> World knows me too well!  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

"Hurry up and build this bike my clothes are going out of style!"

Funny story about that: Grant asked me when I was going to finish the build and 
I said "by midnight." He laughed and shook his head 'no' and I asked when HE 
thought I would be finished. He said, "In a few days." Riv World knows me too 
well!  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Leah Peterson]

See, this bike looks modern to me...and I like that about it. Sometimes I think 
Riv’s bikes (though gorgeous) look a bit dated, but this is a fresh take that 
retains the Rivendell DNA. This could catch on! 

But I drive around with overinflated tires, so what do I know...

Hurry up and build this bike my clothes are going out of style!

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 5, 2020, at 7:51 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Way up! But probably not staying that way, this was just to get bars and my 
> repair stand post in the frame so I could take pics of it sorta looking like 
> a ridable bicycle. The saddle will be lower for sure. Stay tuned! 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Way up! But probably not staying that way, this was just to get bars and my 
repair stand post in the frame so I could take pics of it sorta looking like a 
ridable bicycle. The saddle will be lower for sure. Stay tuned! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Robert Tilley]

Very nice! Grant did say get those bars up and those are definitely up. I'm 
really liking that seat cluster!

Robert Tilley
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It's here, live and in color!

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 5:30:32 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
> That might work, Roberta. I just need the see it live in person and built up 
> first..even to my "love the neons" eyes I'm a little surprised how *bright* 
> the red looks. I don't want to overdo it with red parts, too, but we'll see. 
> As Leah says, how can you have too much red??! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

That might work, Roberta. I just need the see it live in person and built up 
first..even to my "love the neons" eyes I'm a little surprised how *bright* the 
red looks. I don't want to overdo it with red parts, too, but we'll see. As 
Leah says, how can you have too much red??! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Roberta]

At the very least, red spoke nipples.

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 11:12:01 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> About parts. I'm starting with stuff I have around here, most of it off my 
> recent Clem L (plus a 650B wheelset from a bigger Clem H I had). It will 
> indeed be a black/silver mix, but this is just a starting point. I'm 
> probably going to end up hitting up James and Candice at Analog for a fancy 
> tubeless-compatible wheelset, which may have blingy red hubs. But I need to 
> see it built up with non-blingy silver wheels first to decide if adding 
> more red will be too much. The adventure soon begins!   

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Beautiful.  I look forward to seeing the finished build.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

About parts. I'm starting with stuff I have around here, most of it off my 
recent Clem L (plus a 650B wheelset from a bigger Clem H I had). It will indeed 
be a black/silver mix, but this is just a starting point. I'm probably going to 
end up hitting up James and Candice at Analog for a fancy tubeless-compatible 
wheelset, which may have blingy red hubs. But I need to see it built up with 
non-blingy silver wheels first to decide if adding more red will be too much. 
The adventure soon begins!   

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Melanie]

Gorgeous. It’s a brilliant combo of subtle + exciting. So have you chosen the 
components yet?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Mark Roland]

Well that was borderline rude.Beautiful looking bicycle frameset. I look 
forward to seeing the build! All silver? Mix of silver and black would be 
my choice with this color palette. Are you planning on fenders? Black 
fenders would be killer on this rig.

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 7:01:21 AM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>
> Say what?!! Need a spoiler alert--I'm only a few chapters into The Two 
> Towers with Mack, and it's all new to me again, after half a century or so.
>
> On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 12:36:28 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>>
>> ...Like Gandalf the Grey —> Gandalf the White.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Mark Roland]

Say what?!! Need a spoiler alert--I'm only a few chapters into The Two 
Towers with Mack, and it's all new to me again, after half a century or so.

On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 12:36:28 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
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> ...Like Gandalf the Grey —> Gandalf the White.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Leah Peterson]

I am a fan of gray! I really do think grilver is one of the best colors RBW 
ever created. My teenager’s little Clem is so regal - and even more so how he’s 
got it adorned - monochromatically. I usually like a lot of pizazz, but the 
grilver stands on its own. 

I also love the RBW blue that Roberta references (I have it on my Clementine), 
mostly because it refuses to be just one hue and is an array of sparkly 
blues/greens. RBW got that one right, too.

But I LOVE red, and I think it looks great put with the dove gray in this 
custom.

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> On Apr 29, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> "Listen, I don’t want to say I told you so to the lot of you, but I have 
> been singing the praises of a good, strong red paint forEVER."
> 
> It's true. I'm not saying Our Bicycle Belle also convinced me of the 
> qualities of gray/silver, but I'm not saying she DIDN'T 
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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

"It's a really nice color combination and I love how the white pinstripe sets 
off the dark bold red from the understated and lovely dove grey. 

I'm looking forward to seeing the entire bike!"

Thanks, Roberta! The pinstripe is amazing isn't it? I'm so excited, I can't 
wait to see it live in person! 

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

"Listen, I don’t want to say I told you so to the lot of you, but I have been 
singing the praises of a good, strong red paint forEVER."

It's true. I'm not saying Our Bicycle Belle also convinced me of the qualities 
of gray/silver, but I'm not saying she DIDN'T 

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Roberta]

Joe,

It's a really nice color combination and I love how the white pinstripe 
sets off the dark bold red from the understated and lovely dove grey.  

I'm looking forward to seeing the entire bike!

Roberta

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 11:54:51 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Who wants to see pretty Joe Bell paint on a custom Rivendell 
> not-quite-a-mixte? You do, that's who!*
>
> *pics sent from JB, I don't have the frame yet 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Leah Peterson]

Listen, I don’t want to say I told you so to the lot of you, but I have been 
singing the praises of a good, strong red paint forEVER. 

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> On Apr 29, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> "Thanks and the more I see your bike the more I like it. Great color."
> 
> Your bike is going to look..well..RAD! I did consider doing the whole thing 
> Rad Red at one point, that color POPS!  
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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

"Thanks and the more I see your bike the more I like it. Great color."

Your bike is going to look..well..RAD! I did consider doing the whole thing Rad 
Red at one point, that color POPS!  

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Michael Baquerizo]

Rad red. I mustered up some courage and asked Richard Sachs on instagram 
and he said Joe called his paint rad red as well. Unfortunately that 
doesn't translate to much for d (unless it does). but i'll be sure to 
show him your photo as well.

Thanks and the more I see your bike the more I like it. Great color. 


On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 1:53:30 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Michael: I saw a Kirk frame in the gallery at Joe Bell's site that had 
> these colors. In discussion with JB we variously referred to it as Ferrari 
> Red and Porsche Red, after it was painted he said the specific shade he 
> used is called Rad Red. I believe Richard Sachs was mentioned as having 
> used that one at some point, but my memory is a little vague on that. I'm 
> not sure I see pink in it but it's definitely a bright red, I was specific 
> that I wasn't going for any kind of brick-type darker shading. 
>
> Collin: Yes we discussed the Hunqapillar, or more specifically Mark @ 
> Riv's custom on Joe's gallery page which was the predecessor to it. The 
> idea was to do a lightened up version of that scheme with the Kirk frame's 
> colors. Worked out nicely, don't you think? 
>
> Brian: Save your money and I'll sell it to you when I'm too old and creaky 
> to ride. See ya in 20 years! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Thanks Joyce! Go Cougs! (I don't watch the foot ball and know nothing of Cougs, 
but your enthusiasm is infectious )

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[JAS]

It's a stunning paint job and choice of colorsI love the front view 
that shows the head tube with the tiny hearts and the down tube heart in 
the same shot.  

Crimson and grayGo Cougs!  (For those of you unfamiliar with that 
phrase, it's all about Washington State University and though the bike's 
"rad red" isn't quite crimson, I just had to say it as a loyal WSU grad.)

--Joyce

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Btw if you want to drive yourself crazy with beautiful frames in dozens of 
gorgeous colors, check out the Kirk galleries at joebell.net, 
kirkframeworks.com and Kirk's Instagram. Cuh-RAZY!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Patrick: I'm a late bloomer to gray, it's never been high on my list as a guy 
still heavy into his Miami Vice neons..gimme pink and turquoise! But I've grown 
to really like the grilver on my FJ and recently-owned Clem L, both bikes I 
didn't have a color choice on. I also loved the original Hunqapillar, so all 
the pieces started to fit when I saw the Kirk pic: It's gray AND neon! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Patrick Moore]

That is a rather nice color scheme. I generally don't care for gray, but
I'd make an exception for this paint job.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 12:35 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Thanks Rich! The badge looks great on red, doesn't it! That was a factor I
> hadn't even thought about when working out the paint scheme.
>
> I thought y'all might like to see the Kirk pic that started me down this
> road.
>
> On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 11:26:06 AM UTC-7, RichS wrote:
> > Joe,
> >
> >
> > The Riv badge on the red head tube. Luscious is a word that comes to
> mind! Thank you for sharing the images.
> >
> >
> > Best,
> > Rich in ATL
> >
> > On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 11:54:51 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:Who
> wants to see pretty Joe Bell paint on a custom Rivendell not-quite-a-mixte?
> You do, that's who!*
> > *pics sent from JB, I don't have the frame yet
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Toshi Takeuchi]

That's probably the most beautiful headtube I've ever seen!

Toshi


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> Joe,
>
> The Riv badge on the red head tube. Luscious is a word that comes to mind!
> Thank you for sharing the images.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 11:54:51 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Who wants to see pretty Joe Bell paint on a custom Rivendell
>> not-quite-a-mixte? You do, that's who!*
>>
>> *pics sent from JB, I don't have the frame yet
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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Thanks Rich! The badge looks great on red, doesn't it! That was a factor I 
hadn't even thought about when working out the paint scheme. 

I thought y'all might like to see the Kirk pic that started me down this road.  

On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 11:26:06 AM UTC-7, RichS wrote:
> Joe, 
> 
> 
> The Riv badge on the red head tube. Luscious is a word that comes to mind! 
> Thank you for sharing the images.
> 
> 
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
> 
> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 11:54:51 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:Who wants 
> to see pretty Joe Bell paint on a custom Rivendell not-quite-a-mixte? You do, 
> that's who!*
> *pics sent from JB, I don't have the frame yet

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[RichS]

Joe, 

The Riv badge on the red head tube. Luscious is a word that comes to mind! 
Thank you for sharing the images.

Best,
Rich in ATL

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>
> Who wants to see pretty Joe Bell paint on a custom Rivendell 
> not-quite-a-mixte? You do, that's who!*
>
> *pics sent from JB, I don't have the frame yet 
>

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[MCT]

After detailed analysis, Inhave 

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Michael: I saw a Kirk frame in the gallery at Joe Bell's site that had these 
colors. In discussion with JB we variously referred to it as Ferrari Red and 
Porsche Red, after it was painted he said the specific shade he used is called 
Rad Red. I believe Richard Sachs was mentioned as having used that one at some 
point, but my memory is a little vague on that. I'm not sure I see pink in it 
but it's definitely a bright red, I was specific that I wasn't going for any 
kind of brick-type darker shading. 

Collin: Yes we discussed the Hunqapillar, or more specifically Mark @ Riv's 
custom on Joe's gallery page which was the predecessor to it. The idea was to 
do a lightened up version of that scheme with the Kirk frame's colors. Worked 
out nicely, don't you think? 

Brian: Save your money and I'll sell it to you when I'm too old and creaky to 
ride. See ya in 20 years! 

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Brian Campbell]

Can I put a bid in now for when your selling it for in 6 moths? ;-) Very 
nice and great color choices!I hope you thousands and thousands of happy 
miles from it!

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> Who wants to see pretty Joe Bell paint on a custom Rivendell 
> not-quite-a-mixte? You do, that's who!*
>
> *pics sent from JB, I don't have the frame yet 
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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

['John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Joe

Great out of the box choice in picking a red contrasting head tube.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Collin A]

Nice! It looks like a lighter colored version of the original hunqapillar 
color scheme. Hopefully it finds its way home to you soon!

Collin in Sac

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:54:51 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> Who wants to see pretty Joe Bell paint on a custom Rivendell 
> not-quite-a-mixte? You do, that's who!*
>
> *pics sent from JB, I don't have the frame yet 
>

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[lconley]

Beautiful!

Laing

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 11:55:43 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:54:51 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
> > Who wants to see pretty Joe Bell paint on a custom Rivendell 
> not-quite-a-mixte? You do, that's who!*
> > 
> > *pics sent from JB, I don't have the frame yet
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[masmojo]

Striking!

酪

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Michael Baquerizo]

Joe, did you spec that red yourself? How would you describe it? I'm getting a 
Sam painted before it comes to o me and I am trying to get a particular red 
that Richard Sachs used for a season recently. Your red seems a similar 'light 
red' leaning, aka on its way to way to pink but not quite. It could obviously 
just be the photos and my phone but curious to hear your input. Thanks in 
advance. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[MCT]

The white outline is top notch.  Great color scheme.  

Enjoy
Matt in OKc

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

"You might be the happiest person in quarantine."

I might! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

It’s lovely and so very different from the norm, which makes me like it extra. 
It looks modernized, but still retains its Rivendellian DNA. Oh it’s a 
Rivendell, alright, but it’s been reborn. Like Gandalf the Grey —> Gandalf the 
White. I hope you have it in your possession soon! You might be the happiest 
person in quarantine.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Robert Tilley]

Great color choice and an amazing paint job as usual. I visited Joe's shop 
years ago since he's local and still remember seeing all the Riv and Sachs 
frames there waiting for paint. I need to go back...

Robert Tilley
San Diego, CA


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On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:54:51 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
> Who wants to see pretty Joe Bell paint on a custom Rivendell 
> not-quite-a-mixte? You do, that's who!*
>
> *pics sent from JB, I don't have the frame yet

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

JB does amazing work. 

–Eric N


> On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:54:51 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>> Who wants to see pretty Joe Bell paint on a custom Rivendell 
>> not-quite-a-mixte? You do, that's who!*
>> 
>> *pics sent from JB, I don't have the frame yet
> 
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