[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell/My first post

[Kim H.]

Simply marvelous to hear !

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 8:51:20 PM UTC-7 brainsa...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks, y'all! I took it out for a longish ride yesterday and it did not 
> disappoint!
>
> On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 6:38:57 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Anthony,
>>
>> Congratulations!  You'll be riding it more than you ever though you 
>> would.  Rivs ride so nice and are so much fun.
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 1:55:53 PM UTC-4 brainsa...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All! My name is Anthony and I've been a member of this group for a 
>>> couple years now, but have never actually posted.
>>> I just got my first Rivendell and that seemed like a good first post! 
>>> It's a green Rambouillet and I'm stoked. The first time I ever saw a Riv 
>>> was in 2007/8 when I bought a saddle off Craigslist and the seller rolled 
>>> up on an orange Ram. It feels fitting that my first, and maybe only...who 
>>> knows, Rivendell would be a Rambouillet. While I built it with stuff I had 
>>> laying around, I took this opportunity to get a Suntour 3 pulley 
>>> derailleur. Like the Riv, I always wanted one and now I have it! [image: 
>>> IMG-5532.jpg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell/My first post

[Anthony Beauchemin]

Thanks, y'all! I took it out for a longish ride yesterday and it did not 
disappoint!

On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 6:38:57 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

> Anthony,
>
> Congratulations!  You'll be riding it more than you ever though you 
> would.  Rivs ride so nice and are so much fun.
>
> Roberta
>
> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 1:55:53 PM UTC-4 brainsa...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All! My name is Anthony and I've been a member of this group for a 
>> couple years now, but have never actually posted.
>> I just got my first Rivendell and that seemed like a good first post! 
>> It's a green Rambouillet and I'm stoked. The first time I ever saw a Riv 
>> was in 2007/8 when I bought a saddle off Craigslist and the seller rolled 
>> up on an orange Ram. It feels fitting that my first, and maybe only...who 
>> knows, Rivendell would be a Rambouillet. While I built it with stuff I had 
>> laying around, I took this opportunity to get a Suntour 3 pulley 
>> derailleur. Like the Riv, I always wanted one and now I have it! [image: 
>> IMG-5532.jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell/My first post

[Roberta]

Anthony,

Congratulations!  You'll be riding it more than you ever though you would.  
Rivs ride so nice and are so much fun.

Roberta

On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 1:55:53 PM UTC-4 brainsa...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi All! My name is Anthony and I've been a member of this group for a 
> couple years now, but have never actually posted.
> I just got my first Rivendell and that seemed like a good first post! It's 
> a green Rambouillet and I'm stoked. The first time I ever saw a Riv was in 
> 2007/8 when I bought a saddle off Craigslist and the seller rolled up on an 
> orange Ram. It feels fitting that my first, and maybe only...who knows, 
> Rivendell would be a Rambouillet. While I built it with stuff I had laying 
> around, I took this opportunity to get a Suntour 3 pulley derailleur. Like 
> the Riv, I always wanted one and now I have it! [image: IMG-5532.jpg]
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: My first Rivendell/My first post

[Anthony Beauchemin]

Thanks, Kim! The pedals are Shimano DX PD-MX30. They're MTB pedals from I
think 2010 or so. They have removable pins and the part of the pedal body
where the spindle goes through is nice and concave...a must for me. I first
got a pair when some were donated to the shop I was working in and now
they're my absolute favorite pedals of all time!

On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 11:05 AM Kim H.  wrote:

> Congratulations Brian acquiring your first Rivendell bicycle !  Looks
> wonderful.
>
> What make are those pedals ?  I have never seen such a pair before.
>
> Long may you ride in many smiles in your adventures on your new Rivendell
> Rambouillet !
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA
> owner of a Clem Smith Jr. "L" in lime olive.
>
> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 10:55:53 AM UTC-7 brainsa...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All! My name is Anthony and I've been a member of this group for a
>> couple years now, but have never actually posted.
>> I just got my first Rivendell and that seemed like a good first post!
>> It's a green Rambouillet and I'm stoked. The first time I ever saw a Riv
>> was in 2007/8 when I bought a saddle off Craigslist and the seller rolled
>> up on an orange Ram. It feels fitting that my first, and maybe only...who
>> knows, Rivendell would be a Rambouillet. While I built it with stuff I had
>> laying around, I took this opportunity to get a Suntour 3 pulley
>> derailleur. Like the Riv, I always wanted one and now I have it! [image:
>> IMG-5532.jpg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell/My first post

[Kim H.]

Congratulations Brian acquiring your first Rivendell bicycle !  Looks 
wonderful.  

What make are those pedals ?  I have never seen such a pair before.

Long may you ride in many smiles in your adventures on your new Rivendell 
Rambouillet !

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA
owner of a Clem Smith Jr. "L" in lime olive.

On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 10:55:53 AM UTC-7 brainsa...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi All! My name is Anthony and I've been a member of this group for a 
> couple years now, but have never actually posted.
> I just got my first Rivendell and that seemed like a good first post! It's 
> a green Rambouillet and I'm stoked. The first time I ever saw a Riv was in 
> 2007/8 when I bought a saddle off Craigslist and the seller rolled up on an 
> orange Ram. It feels fitting that my first, and maybe only...who knows, 
> Rivendell would be a Rambouillet. While I built it with stuff I had laying 
> around, I took this opportunity to get a Suntour 3 pulley derailleur. Like 
> the Riv, I always wanted one and now I have it! [image: IMG-5532.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: my first Rivendell -- a 61cm Romulus

[Rick Urbanowski]

FYI I have the exact same bike. When I bought it, it had albatross bars on 
it and it also came with a set of drops. I left the albatross on there and 
they are working out just great. I can ride very upright and I have zero 
neck pain now thanks for that. I even did a century last October on it. 
Just a thought.

On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 11:19:11 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Hey, it's my saddlebag! Hope it's workin' out for ya:) 
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 9:37:56 AM UTC-6 samwe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all (similar posting at iBOB),
>>
>> I am reporting on my first Rivendell ever: a 61cm Romulus.
>>
>> The fit is "nearly great". It's the right ST size, for sure (this is 61cm 
>> center to the top of the seat cluster lug, so more like 59cm ctc), and the 
>> Noodles are great, though I feel an urge to tweak the stem (maybe a cm or 
>> two higher, and after that maybe a cm shorter), but that's hampered by the 
>> lovely twine job John did on the bar wrap. Furthermore, I'm riding without 
>> any pain, even after ~30 miles yesterday. So maybe this is the right fit 
>> for this bike? But on the other hand, I avoided spending any time in the 
>> drops... something to chew on.
>>
>> The 77mm BB drop (and the 175mm crank length) did lead me to have a kinda 
>> nasty crank strike (and, judging by marks I saw before, this happened to 
>> John as well). I usually ride 170mm cranks, but that's just been a default 
>> and not something I've systematically tested before. I feel like the 5mm 
>> difference wouldn't have prevented my strike yesterday, so it's probably 
>> just got to go on the list of "things I should be more mindful of".
>>
>> The BB and the rear wheel feel like butter: super low resistance, very 
>> easy to spin. The 26-36-48 chainring range feels ~huge~ and I can't imagine 
>> using the granny since I'm very unlikely to put a load on it, so I might go 
>> through other options.
>>
>> The "Schmidt original dynamo" (I'm guessing this is some time before they 
>> tagged SON on it? it's more of a "barrel" shape than the current "orb"-y 
>> ones) has been delivering great light, and I haven't felt any noticeable 
>> vibration or other bad side effects. It does feel a bit like overkill to 
>> have the dynamo on this bike, though, so when I get it home I ~may~ swap 
>> this wheel for a 28 spoke "roadie wheel" acquired long ago that I've been 
>> using on my errand bike. However, that's black, and while I'm not too 
>> precious about looks, mismatched hub colors ~may~ be where I draw the 
>> line... Anyway, it's a functional and welcome luxury in my current context 
>> (spending a couple months with a relative, bought a bike on the BOB list to 
>> keep in her garage, and will likely take it home with me).
>>
>> I don't love the look or the action (or the interplay with the fenders) 
>> of the sidepulls, so if anyone wants to swap for a canti-Rom, I could be 
>> interested... But, long story short, they do the job. The brake levers are 
>> great and comfortable, and the barcons are a delight.
>>
>> The light is a Herrmans H-Black M4 light; it's nice, quite bright, and 
>> has a great beam shape, though the body is plastic and I'll be curious to 
>> see how it "ages". I also have a B Secuzed tail light mounted to the 
>> fender now. The saddlebag is a Dill Pickle; it's fantastic.
>>
>> That's the news -- happy to be an official member here now, and happy 
>> that Riv makes such excellent, timeless bikes!
>>
>> -Sam McDermott
>> Chicago, IL (temporarily in SJC)
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: my first Rivendell -- a 61cm Romulus

[Andrew Turner]

Hey, it's my saddlebag! Hope it's workin' out for ya:) 

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 9:37:56 AM UTC-6 samwe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all (similar posting at iBOB),
>
> I am reporting on my first Rivendell ever: a 61cm Romulus.
>
> The fit is "nearly great". It's the right ST size, for sure (this is 61cm 
> center to the top of the seat cluster lug, so more like 59cm ctc), and the 
> Noodles are great, though I feel an urge to tweak the stem (maybe a cm or 
> two higher, and after that maybe a cm shorter), but that's hampered by the 
> lovely twine job John did on the bar wrap. Furthermore, I'm riding without 
> any pain, even after ~30 miles yesterday. So maybe this is the right fit 
> for this bike? But on the other hand, I avoided spending any time in the 
> drops... something to chew on.
>
> The 77mm BB drop (and the 175mm crank length) did lead me to have a kinda 
> nasty crank strike (and, judging by marks I saw before, this happened to 
> John as well). I usually ride 170mm cranks, but that's just been a default 
> and not something I've systematically tested before. I feel like the 5mm 
> difference wouldn't have prevented my strike yesterday, so it's probably 
> just got to go on the list of "things I should be more mindful of".
>
> The BB and the rear wheel feel like butter: super low resistance, very 
> easy to spin. The 26-36-48 chainring range feels ~huge~ and I can't imagine 
> using the granny since I'm very unlikely to put a load on it, so I might go 
> through other options.
>
> The "Schmidt original dynamo" (I'm guessing this is some time before they 
> tagged SON on it? it's more of a "barrel" shape than the current "orb"-y 
> ones) has been delivering great light, and I haven't felt any noticeable 
> vibration or other bad side effects. It does feel a bit like overkill to 
> have the dynamo on this bike, though, so when I get it home I ~may~ swap 
> this wheel for a 28 spoke "roadie wheel" acquired long ago that I've been 
> using on my errand bike. However, that's black, and while I'm not too 
> precious about looks, mismatched hub colors ~may~ be where I draw the 
> line... Anyway, it's a functional and welcome luxury in my current context 
> (spending a couple months with a relative, bought a bike on the BOB list to 
> keep in her garage, and will likely take it home with me).
>
> I don't love the look or the action (or the interplay with the fenders) of 
> the sidepulls, so if anyone wants to swap for a canti-Rom, I could be 
> interested... But, long story short, they do the job. The brake levers are 
> great and comfortable, and the barcons are a delight.
>
> The light is a Herrmans H-Black M4 light; it's nice, quite bright, and has 
> a great beam shape, though the body is plastic and I'll be curious to see 
> how it "ages". I also have a B Secuzed tail light mounted to the fender 
> now. The saddlebag is a Dill Pickle; it's fantastic.
>
> That's the news -- happy to be an official member here now, and happy that 
> Riv makes such excellent, timeless bikes!
>
> -Sam McDermott
> Chicago, IL (temporarily in SJC)
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

[hugh flynn]

Not a real off road aficionado here, but yeah!

I think there's a balance to be struck between tracking and "responsive"
steering in bike design, but so far I've been super happy with off road
riding on my LWB Appaloosa. Not *feeling* any loss on the manouverability
front.

Hugh

On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 6:57 AM OwenS  wrote:

> Thanks for the warm welcome everybody! So far I've commuted every day on
> the Clem Smith and loving it.
> Still learning its quirks and movements and have definitely pushed it to
> what I thought would be its limits (dirt tracks and sand) and yet it
> continues to deliver.
>
> One thing I notice when riding it off-road and things get a little sketchy
> is the lng wheelbase gives you a lot of time to recover if the rear
> wheel starts to wash out. It also seems to track very well and just plough
> through sandy sections of track.  Have never experienced anything like it.
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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

[OwenS]

Thanks for the warm welcome everybody! So far I've commuted every day on 
the Clem Smith and loving it. 
Still learning its quirks and movements and have definitely pushed it to 
what I thought would be its limits (dirt tracks and sand) and yet it 
continues to deliver. 

One thing I notice when riding it off-road and things get a little sketchy 
is the lng wheelbase gives you a lot of time to recover if the rear 
wheel starts to wash out. It also seems to track very well and just plough 
through sandy sections of track.  Have never experienced anything like it. 

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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

[RichS]

Owen, congratulations on your first Rivendell! Clems are a lot of bang for 
the buck.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 11:23:03 PM UTC-5, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
>
> Hey Owen!
>
> Glad to hear you decided on a Clem and got one shipped to you -- and I'm 
> glad to hear you're lovin' it!
>
> Bob E
> Cranford, NJ
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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

[Bob Ehrenbeck]

Hey Owen!

Glad to hear you decided on a Clem and got one shipped to you -- and I'm 
glad to hear you're lovin' it!

Bob E
Cranford, NJ

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Re: [RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

[hugh flynn]

I have yet to find a detailer or brakes that outlast shimano's 7 speed
Deore DX line. I certainly don't hesitate to pull them off thrift store
bikes and pop 'em on my fancy bikes. They even work fine with my very
modern shifters (caveat, I never got more modern than 8sp indexed downtube
shifters, but it sounded good).

Seriously though, those things are going to outlive me. I have quite a few
DX hubs still running fine (one got a surly fix-r and is now a fixed gear).
I can live quite happily without Dura-Ace, Red, Record, etc. Give me the
good stuff that works and lasts.

Those silver sun-tour front hubs Riv sold for something like $10 about 20
years ago are still humming along and looking great.

Hugh "simple and solid" Flynn
Newburyport, MA

On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 8:08 PM brendonoid  wrote:

> Congrats on the purchase. I am a fellow Aussie (perth) riv owner and I'm
> warning you; you don't stop at just one.
> And yes, 'cheaper' components just usually means more durable/functional.
> Welcome to the club!
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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

[brendonoid]

Congrats on the purchase. I am a fellow Aussie (perth) riv owner and I'm 
warning you; you don't stop at just one.
And yes, 'cheaper' components just usually means more durable/functional. 
Welcome to the club!

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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

[REC (Roberta)]

The Rivendell ride is amazing, isn't it.  I didn't believe so until I got 
on one.  WOW is right!  Congratulations and happy riding.   

Roberta

On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 5:32:20 PM UTC-5, OwenS wrote:

> Well I've officially joined the club after purchasing Danny's (RDS member 
> here) Clem Smith H. He was kind enough to get it shipped to me here in 
> Australia. I don't think are too many of the over here. 
>
> Went for my first real ride with it today on my commute to work. All I can 
> say is. *Wow*. I'm a believer now, Grant.
> I honestly don't know what it is about this bike. So much of it doesn't 
> make sense. On paper it's heavy. The components are quite cheap as well.  
> And yet it all comes together in what is plain a simple, an incredible 
> riding experience. It's comfortable, its fast, its fun. I couldn't be 
> happier. And it's also the first bike I've owned where I actually want to 
> modify it. To tinker and enhance different aspects and make it truly mine. 
> They really are special bikes. 
> Here it is posed gracefully in front of a trashcan and some milk crates.
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2019-02-21 at 11.59.05 pm copy.jpg]
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

[Drw]

Welcome and awesome. now start saving for 6 more. 

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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

[OwenS]

Amazing. Thank you. I will reach out to him. 

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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

So happy for you Owen.

gr...@rivbike.com

Address is as simple and amazing as your bike.  

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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

[OwenS]

Oh I definitely meant 'cheap' in the pure sense of cost only. Very cheap 
when you compare the Altus derailleur with my previous bike's SRAM Shadow 
clutch derailleur. Did the SRAM change gears any better? *Nope.* Did it 
costs like 8 x the price? 
*Yep. *

I'm kinda pissed that the general bike industry has drip fed me information 
around which components I needed as a 'serious cyclist'. I think the whole 
Shimano/SRAM hierarchy of components is almost total garbage. Categorize 
components in terms of weight or use-case, not some imaginary metric of 
'betterness'. 
*"Oh no don't get the Altus, the Claris is much better. But not as good as 
Tiagra. What you really need is 105". *

I feel free in so may ways now. I wish I could thank Grant directly but I 
have no idea how to get in contact with him. 



On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 11:18:55 AM UTC+11, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> I'm not sure it's fair to characterize all the components as "cheap" which 
> often implies poor quality as much as it does low price. If it came with 
> the stock Silver crank, for instance, those sell for $220. Not outrageous 
> by today's bloated measures, but not cheap. And a fine crank. The bars are 
> Boscos--70 to 95 dollars; my first gen came with Bosco bullmoose, the 
> stand-alone version of which sells for $160. The only thing I thought was a 
> bit "cheap" were the somewhat maligned shifter things on the first gen--I 
> believe they fixed that.  Alex makes fine rims, Kenda makes fine, if not 
> cognescenti-worthy, tires. The other bits and bobs are inexpensive, 
> practical, good quality, will last just fine. Enjoy your handsome, 
> practical, fun, prudently-spec'd new bicycle!
>
>
> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 5:32:20 PM UTC-5, OwenS wrote:
>>
>> Well I've officially joined the club after purchasing Danny's (RDS member 
>> here) Clem Smith H. He was kind enough to get it shipped to me here in 
>> Australia. I don't think are too many of the over here. 
>>
>> Went for my first real ride with it today on my commute to work. All I 
>> can say is. *Wow*. I'm a believer now, Grant.
>> I honestly don't know what it is about this bike. So much of it doesn't 
>> make sense. On paper it's heavy. The components are quite cheap as well.  
>> And yet it all comes together in what is plain a simple, an incredible 
>> riding experience. It's comfortable, its fast, its fun. I couldn't be 
>> happier. And it's also the first bike I've owned where I actually want to 
>> modify it. To tinker and enhance different aspects and make it truly mine. 
>> They really are special bikes. 
>> Here it is posed gracefully in front of a trashcan and some milk crates.
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2019-02-21 at 11.59.05 pm copy.jpg]
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

[Ash]

Owens, congratulations!!

It doesn't make sense is right.  Exactly how I felt when I test road a Riv 
for the first time (I'm lucky to be located near the HQ).  

Enjoy the bike!

On Thursday, 21 February 2019 14:32:20 UTC-8, OwenS wrote:
>
> Well I've officially joined the club after purchasing Danny's (RDS member 
> here) Clem Smith H. He was kind enough to get it shipped to me here in 
> Australia. I don't think are too many of the over here. 
>
> Went for my first real ride with it today on my commute to work. All I can 
> say is. *Wow*. I'm a believer now, Grant.
> I honestly don't know what it is about this bike. So much of it doesn't 
> make sense. On paper it's heavy. The components are quite cheap as well.  
> And yet it all comes together in what is plain a simple, an incredible 
> riding experience. It's comfortable, its fast, its fun. I couldn't be 
> happier. And it's also the first bike I've owned where I actually want to 
> modify it. To tinker and enhance different aspects and make it truly mine. 
> They really are special bikes. 
> Here it is posed gracefully in front of a trashcan and some milk crates.
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2019-02-21 at 11.59.05 pm copy.jpg]
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I'm not sure it's fair to characterize all the components as "cheap" which 
often implies poor quality as much as it does low price. If it came with 
the stock Silver crank, for instance, those sell for $220. Not outrageous 
by today's bloated measures, but not cheap. And a fine crank. The bars are 
Boscos--70 to 95 dollars; my first gen came with Bosco bullmoose, the 
stand-alone version of which sells for $160. The only thing I thought was a 
bit "cheap" were the somewhat maligned shifter things on the first gen--I 
believe they fixed that.  Alex makes fine rims, Kenda makes fine, if not 
cognescenti-worthy, tires. The other bits and bobs are inexpensive, 
practical, good quality, will last just fine. Enjoy your handsome, 
practical, fun, prudently-spec'd new bicycle!


On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 5:32:20 PM UTC-5, OwenS wrote:
>
> Well I've officially joined the club after purchasing Danny's (RDS member 
> here) Clem Smith H. He was kind enough to get it shipped to me here in 
> Australia. I don't think are too many of the over here. 
>
> Went for my first real ride with it today on my commute to work. All I can 
> say is. *Wow*. I'm a believer now, Grant.
> I honestly don't know what it is about this bike. So much of it doesn't 
> make sense. On paper it's heavy. The components are quite cheap as well.  
> And yet it all comes together in what is plain a simple, an incredible 
> riding experience. It's comfortable, its fast, its fun. I couldn't be 
> happier. And it's also the first bike I've owned where I actually want to 
> modify it. To tinker and enhance different aspects and make it truly mine. 
> They really are special bikes. 
> Here it is posed gracefully in front of a trashcan and some milk crates.
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2019-02-21 at 11.59.05 pm copy.jpg]
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

[Edwin W]

Components: cheap
Getting to AUS: expensive
That gap between the rear wheel and the seat tube? Priceless.

Enjoy!

Appaloosa'ed in Nashville,

Edwin

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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

[Scot Klein]

I added some clearance pictures for you.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/LcvwEHtbWvio42UP8

On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 10:41 PM Chad  I love it!  Classical build with a neat mixture of modern components.   I
> also have a couple of of early Stumpies...a TIG frame ‘82 and a lugged ‘83
> Sport.  I will get to try out non-aero levers for the first time once I
> finish freshening up an 82 Sequoia.  How well do those Bon Jon Pass tires
> fit..do you have plenty of clearance with the regular reach sidepulls?
> I’ve been curious to see how big of a tire the Roadini will fit.
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[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

[Chad]

I love it!  Classical build with a neat mixture of modern components.   I also 
have a couple of of early Stumpies...a TIG frame ‘82 and a lugged ‘83 Sport.  I 
will get to try out non-aero levers for the first time once I finish freshening 
up an 82 Sequoia.  How well do those Bon Jon Pass tires fit..do you have plenty 
of clearance with the regular reach sidepulls?  I’ve been curious to see how 
big of a tire the Roadini will fit.

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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

[Scot Klein]

I think the seat tube is 31.8mm. Wanted to do the complete build through
Riv, so I went with the CX70, which I have no complaints about. In the back
of my mind, I knew I could grab something vintage off eBay and throw it on
there if I wanted to.  Mainly I knew the second the bike arrived, I would
want to be out riding it and didn't want any downtime if something didn't
work out. Will leave everything as is for now.

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 3:40 PM Bill Schairer  wrote:

> “My objective was the retro/vintage look with all silver components. Front
> Deraileur is an exception because I couldn't find one that could handle the
> range without needing a braze-on/adapter”
>
> Did you try a vintage derailleur?  I use a Suntour Cyclone on my Atlantis
> to shift a 24/38/46 triple and it has the range.  I’m thinking there are a
> number of different models that would do the trick. Is the seat tube too
> fat on the Roadini?
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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

[Bill Schairer]

“My objective was the retro/vintage look with all silver components. Front 
Deraileur is an exception because I couldn't find one that could handle the 
range without needing a braze-on/adapter”

Did you try a vintage derailleur?  I use a Suntour Cyclone on my Atlantis to 
shift a 24/38/46 triple and it has the range.  I’m thinking there are a number 
of different models that would do the trick. Is the seat tube too fat on the 
Roadini?

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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

[Scot Klein]

My objective was the retro/vintage look with all silver components. Front
Deraileur is an exception because I couldn't find one that could handle the
range without needing a braze-on/adapter.

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 10:12 AM frazzywig  wrote:

> Oh cool thanks for that additional info. I'd definitely like to change my
> over to a similar look in the future. I was possibly thinking of going 1 X
> 10 for a nice clean look too. That will have to be down the road though.
> For the short term I'm most likely just gonna switch out the current pedals
> with some MKS Sylvan's w/clips.
>
> Just in case you were interested, this is my setup currently,
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/nDOG9F38ZYw
>
> I'm really loving my Roadini :)
>
>
> On Monday, December 3, 2018 at 9:14:22 AM UTC-8, Scot wrote:
>>
>> The rear derailleur is SunXCD SXRD34M .
>> For the cranks, I was referring to the Velo Orange Grand Cru's
>> 
>> .
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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

[frazzywig]

Oh cool thanks for that additional info. I'd definitely like to change my 
over to a similar look in the future. I was possibly thinking of going 1 X 
10 for a nice clean look too. That will have to be down the road though. 
For the short term I'm most likely just gonna switch out the current pedals 
with some MKS Sylvan's w/clips. 

Just in case you were interested, this is my setup 
currently, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/nDOG9F38ZYw

I'm really loving my Roadini :)


On Monday, December 3, 2018 at 9:14:22 AM UTC-8, Scot wrote:
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> The rear derailleur is SunXCD SXRD34M .
> For the cranks, I was referring to the Velo Orange Grand Cru's 
> 
> .
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

[Scot Klein]

Works great with the 11-32 cassette and dura ace bar end shifters! Only
about 100 miles on the bike so far but no issues yet.

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018, 12:29 PM Steve Palincsar  And how is that rear derailleur?
> On 12/3/18 12:14 PM, Scot Klein wrote:
>
> The rear derailleur is SunXCD SXRD34M .
> For the cranks, I was referring to the Velo Orange Grand Cru's
> 
> .
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:27 AM frazzywig  wrote:
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>> Sorry, what’s “the RD”? “VO” is Velo Orange correct?
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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

[Steve Palincsar]

And how is that rear derailleur?

On 12/3/18 12:14 PM, Scot Klein wrote:

The rear derailleur is SunXCD SXRD34M .
For the cranks, I was referring to the Velo Orange Grand Cru's 
.


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Sorry, what’s “the RD”? “VO” is Velo Orange correct?


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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

[Scot Klein]

The rear derailleur is SunXCD SXRD34M .
For the cranks, I was referring to the Velo Orange Grand Cru's

.

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[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

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Sorry, what’s “the RD”? “VO” is Velo Orange correct?

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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

[Steve Palincsar]

YMMV.   I love the look but hate the feel.

I used "non-aero" (at the time, we just called them "brake levers") 
levers on my 64 Dunelt, and for 20 years on my P15 Paramount.  I 
switched to aero style levers in 1991 and haven't braked from the drops 
since.  It's all brake from the hoods except for the bikes with 'cross 
levers under the bar top.


When I got my Moulton in 2002 I built it up with non-aero levers and 
found the braking from the hoods totally unsatisfactory - far too much 
effort required, and the best I could get was as Sheldon has it, 
"gentle".  I switched the bike to aero levers and wouldn't consider the 
old-style levers again, never mind how nice they look.



On 11/29/18 6:14 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

I find the "difficulty braking from the hoods on non aero brakes" to be much 
Ado about very little. Anybody with fairly reasonable hand strength can pull that lever 
toward the handlebar from either position. The brake doesn't know where your hand is. I 
wonder if maybe there were levers way back in time that were extremely hard to pull, and 
that's where this truism came from. I brake from the hoods on non aero brakes all the 
time with zero issues.


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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

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Congratulations on your new Rivendell. Very nifty build!

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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I find the "difficulty braking from the hoods on non aero brakes" to be much 
Ado about very little. Anybody with fairly reasonable hand strength can pull 
that lever toward the handlebar from either position. The brake doesn't know 
where your hand is. I wonder if maybe there were levers way back in time that 
were extremely hard to pull, and that's where this truism came from. I brake 
from the hoods on non aero brakes all the time with zero issues.

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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

[Steve Palincsar]

The pivot is located in a different place, and you have a lot less 
leverage than with the aero style.


   /Æro levers are generally an improvement over the older type. The
   pivots are located differently, making it possible to get fairly
   serious braking from the position where the rider's hand is on top
   of the lever hood. Non-æro levers would permit the use of this
   position for gentle deceleration only.   --
   https://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_aa-l.html
   /


On 11/29/18 5:45 PM, Bill Schairer wrote:

Very pretty!  Out of curiosity, what is the supposed issue braking from the 
hoods of non-aero levers?  I brake from the hoods with aero and non-aero 
without realizing there was some difference to be concerned with.  I guess I 
prefer aero simply to avoid catching cable with my hands while changing hand 
position.

Bill


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[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

[Bill Schairer]

Very pretty!  Out of curiosity, what is the supposed issue braking from the 
hoods of non-aero levers?  I brake from the hoods with aero and non-aero 
without realizing there was some difference to be concerned with.  I guess I 
prefer aero simply to avoid catching cable with my hands while changing hand 
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Bill

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[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

[Scot]

Congrats! It was a tough decision between the XCD, VO, and Rene Herse. I'm 
happy with the SunXCD. I wanted all silver components which made it tough 
too and being that SunXCD had the RD, that helped sway my decision toward 
the cranks too. 

On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 11:55:11 AM UTC-8, frazzywig wrote:
>
> Yoo. So damn cool! I’m just getting into lugged steel and Riv bikes. 
> Never knew much about bikes until very recently (last couple months). I 
> just barely got through finalizing the purchase of my first one two days 
> ago (prior to that, the guys at Riv we’re holding it for me on a deposit). 
> Anyway, I went with a blue Roadini too. It was actually the pre-built web 
> special that had been up for about three months. Budget is a pretty big 
> issue for me at this point in time, but I really couldn’t wait to get 
> riding so this deal was PERFECT for me. Luckily it was the right size. At 
> any rate I’m planning on customizing it a bit here and there as time goes 
> on, and I was pretty much envisioning an almost identical build to what you 
> have done. I especially love the crankset you went with! Thanks for sharing 
> man

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[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

[Bill Lindsay]

*APPROVE!!!*
On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 10:04:22 AM UTC-8, Scot wrote:
>
> Hello RWB Owner's Bunch! I've been peeking around since I was ready to 
> make my first Riv purchase. I have a few bikes that I love and didn't want 
> too much overlap, so I went with the Roadini. I have a 1993 Klein Quantum 
> which was my father's and is too big for me, but it is fun to ride every 
> once and a while, just not for too long. So I'm going to work on selling 
> that soon. I really wanted an Atlantis but with having a Surly Troll, 1983 
> Specialized Stumpjumper and a 1983 Ross Mt. Whitney; which I love all 3, I 
> didn't want them to get jealous ;)
>
> When I was ready to make my purchase, I called up RBW and Will answered 
> the phone. I told him I was ready to buy/build a complete through them and 
> off we went! I couldn't be happier with how it turned out. Here's pictures 
> and a full list of the specs for those interested:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/LcvwEHtbWvio42UP8
>
> Size  54cm
> Color RBW Blue
> Headset FSA Duron 1" threaded headset
> Crankset SunXCD 172.5mm
> Chainrings SunXCD 34-48t
> Shifters Shimano Dura Ace SH2-9 17049
> Derailleur F Shimano CX70
> Cassette Shimano HG-201 9-speed 11-32
> Derailleur R SunXCD SXRD34M 
> Saddle Brooks Tem Pro Classic Honey
> Seatpost Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow 26.8x250mm
> Stem Nitto Tallux 26.0mm 9cm
> Handlebar Nitto Noodle (Mod. 177) 48cm
> Grips Newbaums Tan
> WHEELSET Built by Rich Lesnik (Hands on Wheels)
> Hub, Front Shimano 105 5800 100mm 32h
> Hub, Rear Shimano 105 5800 130mm 32h
> Rims Velocity A23 700c 32h
> Spokes 14/15 DTSwiss Competition
> Tires Compass Bon Jon Pass 700c 35mm
> Brake Set Shimano BR-R650
> Brake Levers Dia Compe Gran Compe GC-202Q Brown 
> Pedals MKS Sneakers RMX
>
> Thanks Will and the rest of this group!
>
> Scot Klein
> Orange, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

[Collin A]

Looks almost Eroica ready! Awesome bike and awesome color. Hopefully it 
will provide lots for smiles for many miles to come (without upsetting your 
other bikes).

Collin A

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[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

[Doug Bloch]

A lovely build!  You forgot to mention the Spurcycle bell -- I love mine!

Doug Bloch
Alameda CA USA

On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 10:04:22 AM UTC-8, Scot wrote:
>
> Hello RWB Owner's Bunch! I've been peeking around since I was ready to 
> make my first Riv purchase. I have a few bikes that I love and didn't want 
> too much overlap, so I went with the Roadini. I have a 1993 Klein Quantum 
> which was my father's and is too big for me, but it is fun to ride every 
> once and a while, just not for too long. So I'm going to work on selling 
> that soon. I really wanted an Atlantis but with having a Surly Troll, 1983 
> Specialized Stumpjumper and a 1983 Ross Mt. Whitney; which I love all 3, I 
> didn't want them to get jealous ;)
>
> When I was ready to make my purchase, I called up RBW and Will answered 
> the phone. I told him I was ready to buy/build a complete through them and 
> off we went! I couldn't be happier with how it turned out. Here's pictures 
> and a full list of the specs for those interested:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/LcvwEHtbWvio42UP8
>
> Size  54cm
> Color RBW Blue
> Headset FSA Duron 1" threaded headset
> Crankset SunXCD 172.5mm
> Chainrings SunXCD 34-48t
> Shifters Shimano Dura Ace SH2-9 17049
> Derailleur F Shimano CX70
> Cassette Shimano HG-201 9-speed 11-32
> Derailleur R SunXCD SXRD34M 
> Saddle Brooks Tem Pro Classic Honey
> Seatpost Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow 26.8x250mm
> Stem Nitto Tallux 26.0mm 9cm
> Handlebar Nitto Noodle (Mod. 177) 48cm
> Grips Newbaums Tan
> WHEELSET Built by Rich Lesnik (Hands on Wheels)
> Hub, Front Shimano 105 5800 100mm 32h
> Hub, Rear Shimano 105 5800 130mm 32h
> Rims Velocity A23 700c 32h
> Spokes 14/15 DTSwiss Competition
> Tires Compass Bon Jon Pass 700c 35mm
> Brake Set Shimano BR-R650
> Brake Levers Dia Compe Gran Compe GC-202Q Brown 
> Pedals MKS Sneakers RMX
>
> Thanks Will and the rest of this group!
>
> Scot Klein
> Orange, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

[frazzywig]

Yoo. So damn cool! I’m just getting into lugged steel and Riv bikes. Never 
knew much about bikes until very recently (last couple months). I just barely 
got through finalizing the purchase of my first one two days ago (prior to 
that, the guys at Riv we’re holding it for me on a deposit). Anyway, I went 
with a blue Roadini too. It was actually the pre-built web special that had 
been up for about three months. Budget is a pretty big issue for me at this 
point in time, but I really couldn’t wait to get riding so this deal was 
PERFECT for me. Luckily it was the right size. At any rate I’m planning on 
customizing it a bit here and there as time goes on, and I was pretty much 
envisioning an almost identical build to what you have done. I especially love 
the crankset you went with! Thanks for sharing man

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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell

[Tommy Patterson]

Hi Bruce, nice meeting you too. Perfect weather for a nice, long ride. And
your bike looked great also!

A guy in front of me went down and I made a quick swerve to miss him. In
doing so, my rear wheel locked up. Initially I thought that the wheel
jumped out of the dropouts and was buzzing my frame, but as soon as I got
to looking at it I noticed that it was seirously out of true. I called the
SAG support and while waiting I saw hairline cracks on every drive-side
spoke eyelet! I had just had the wheel trued and this was the first ride on
it, so I am wondering if the mechanic over tensioned the spokes leaving it
prone to failure 樂. The wheel is being laced over to a new rim (at another
shop!) and I should be back on it in a week.

Thanks for the motivation to join the local rando group, I'll do my best to
link up with them once I am settled into my new place in NOLA.

Tommy

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wrote:

> Tommy:
>
> It was a pleasure to meet you yesterday at the Hattiesburg ride.  Sorry
> that my lack of iphone skills resulted in no picture of our two Rivendell
> products together. Also to hear that you had a mechanical. What happened?
> You looked good on it and that Saluki green is outstanding on that bike.
>
>   Bruce
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[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell

[Paul Y]

Wow that is beautiful!! I've never seen a Ram in that color before. 
Congratulations! You really scored a fantastic deal.

On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 12:18:57 AM UTC+8, Tommy Patterson wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I bought my first Rivendell used at a small shop in western NC a month 
> back and I love it! The price was too good to be true ($850!?!) and after a 
> few hundred in consumable parts (tires, drivetrain, bar tape) and setting 
> it up to my liking it is riding great. I understand why y'all love these 
> bikes to much.
>
> I have a general question to those that might know a thing or two about bb 
> length for rambouillets. The BB that is in there feels wide to me and I 
> have ample crank arm clearance. I have not pulled it out to measure, but I 
> am curious if a standard road width would fit this bike. I have 175 Sugino 
> cranks and could like to reduce my q-factor so I don't feel like I am 
> pedaling bowlegged. Any advice or experience would be helpful. 
>
> Attached are a few photos of the day I bought the bike (with a genuine 
> smile), its current iteration, and the crank-arm clearance. I'm riding a 
> century on it tomorrow, wish me luck. 
>
> Cheers,
> Tommy 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell

[Fullylugged]

Tommy:

It was a pleasure to meet you yesterday at the Hattiesburg ride.  Sorry that my 
lack of iphone skills resulted in no picture of our two Rivendell products 
together. Also to hear that you had a mechanical. What happened?  You looked 
good on it and that Saluki green is outstanding on that bike.

  Bruce

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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell

[Eli Queen]

Beautiful. Love the color. Have fun!

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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell

[Tommy Patterson]

TC,

Nope, it was in Marshall, NC at a small shop called Mossy Mountain. The
owner told me the bike was being sold on consignment for someone nearby.

Tommy

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> Tommy, what a find!  Was that the one on Craigslist in Weaverville?
> Congrats!
>
> Tom
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[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell

[tc]

Tommy, what a find!  Was that the one on Craigslist in Weaverville?  
Congrats!

Tom

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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell

[Lum Gim Fong]

Rabooyays are the best riding bikes!!!
Congrats and enjoy!!!

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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell

[Tommy Patterson]

Austin,

Correct, it measures 62 and it is a somewhat sparkly green. It really
shines in sunlight so I'll have to post another picture of it soon. I live
in southern Mississippi and I am about to move to NOLA where an 11-23 is
all I need with 50-34 up front. I often visit family in western NC where
I'll use more mountain friendly gearing.

Tommy

On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Austin B.  wrote:

> I'll echo the approvals. And I'm struggling to remember if I've ever seen
> that beautiful green on a Ram frame--it's quite the looker! It looks
> lighter than the Hunq green.
>
> Looks like a narrow-range cassette on it. 36-50t large cog, wide-range
> cassettes are so ubiquitous on Rivs these days (aka Turkey Vulture Gearing)
> that it looks so small to me. But hey, if it works then you're golden.
>
> I'm guessing it's a 62cm frame--I'll be happy to take it off your hands if
> you get bored with it. But then we all know that's not gonna happen!
>
> Enjoy it!
> Austin Bishop
> Sykesville, MD
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[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell

[Austin B.]

I'll echo the approvals. And I'm struggling to remember if I've ever seen 
that beautiful green on a Ram frame--it's quite the looker! It looks 
lighter than the Hunq green.

Looks like a narrow-range cassette on it. 36-50t large cog, wide-range 
cassettes are so ubiquitous on Rivs these days (aka Turkey Vulture Gearing) 
that it looks so small to me. But hey, if it works then you're golden. 

I'm guessing it's a 62cm frame--I'll be happy to take it off your hands if 
you get bored with it. But then we all know that's not gonna happen!

Enjoy it!
Austin Bishop
Sykesville, MD


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[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell

[Evan E.]

Wow. Beautiful Rambouillet! I second Bill's emphatic approval. Happy riding.

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[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell

[LBleriot]

Awesome Ram!  That's a keeper.  Good luck on the ride.  you have the right 
bike for it.

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 12:18:57 PM UTC-4, Tommy Patterson wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I bought my first Rivendell used at a small shop in western NC a month 
> back and I love it! The price was too good to be true ($850!?!) and after a 
> few hundred in consumable parts (tires, drivetrain, bar tape) and setting 
> it up to my liking it is riding great. I understand why y'all love these 
> bikes to much.
>
> I have a general question to those that might know a thing or two about bb 
> length for rambouillets. The BB that is in there feels wide to me and I 
> have ample crank arm clearance. I have not pulled it out to measure, but I 
> am curious if a standard road width would fit this bike. I have 175 Sugino 
> cranks and could like to reduce my q-factor so I don't feel like I am 
> pedaling bowlegged. Any advice or experience would be helpful. 
>
> Attached are a few photos of the day I bought the bike (with a genuine 
> smile), its current iteration, and the crank-arm clearance. I'm riding a 
> century on it tomorrow, wish me luck. 
>
> Cheers,
> Tommy 
>

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[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell

[Paul Choi]

Beautiful rig. Welcome to the group. Get out and ride this weekend :)

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 9:18:57 AM UTC-7, Tommy Patterson wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I bought my first Rivendell used at a small shop in western NC a month 
> back and I love it! The price was too good to be true ($850!?!) and after a 
> few hundred in consumable parts (tires, drivetrain, bar tape) and setting 
> it up to my liking it is riding great. I understand why y'all love these 
> bikes to much.
>
> I have a general question to those that might know a thing or two about bb 
> length for rambouillets. The BB that is in there feels wide to me and I 
> have ample crank arm clearance. I have not pulled it out to measure, but I 
> am curious if a standard road width would fit this bike. I have 175 Sugino 
> cranks and could like to reduce my q-factor so I don't feel like I am 
> pedaling bowlegged. Any advice or experience would be helpful. 
>
> Attached are a few photos of the day I bought the bike (with a genuine 
> smile), its current iteration, and the crank-arm clearance. I'm riding a 
> century on it tomorrow, wish me luck. 
>
> Cheers,
> Tommy 
>

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[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell

[Scott McLain]

Sweet bike!  Love the step through!

Scott

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[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell

[REC]

Paul,

Congratulations on your first Rivendell!  I bought my first riv--Joe 
Appaloosa-- 5 months ago and could not be happier. Now, riding is 100% 
pleasurable with 0% pain.  Love the upright-ness.  I was contemplating a 
Clem; it's a nice ride and you got a great color. 

Hope you have lots of good miles on it.

Roberta

On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 11:21:18 AM UTC-4, Paul Choi wrote:

>
> 
> Just picked up my first Rivendell in Walnut Creek. I took a one hour ride 
> on Saturday and it was just so comfortable. It was just so weird not having 
> any weight on my hands. Such a different but awesome experience. I'm hooked!
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[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Congratulations!!!  Beautiful bike.  Now you will be hooked for life.

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[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell + Ride Report

[twowheeledtexan]

I recognize that turnout. Rolled past there 6-7 years ago! Good thing you went 
south, going north is usually into the wind. Beautiful ride there, and great 
looking bike!

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