[RBW] Re: SimpleTwo?
FWIW: My LBS can order the Sturmey Archer two speed hubs from QBP. I'm going to build it with a Mavic Open Sport rim to match the existing Quickbeam rims. The cogs, $3 each...certainly the cheapest part of this project. :-) It will be interesting to see how well this works. Angus On Nov 23, 6:13 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: This sounds like a very good option. I've only found one place in the US selling the S2C (coaster brake). I'll try my LBS as I don't really want the coaster brake. Anyone else know where to get these? Thanks! Angus On Nov 21, 9:50 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, all! Does anyone have any experience with the sorta new Sturmey-Archer duomatic hub? If so... Are they of reasonable quality (as opposed to being a novelty or a fashion-gimmick or something intended for a department-store bike)? If you have no experience but would venture an opinion, would you *expect* them to be of reasonable quality? (I know nothing about the modern Sturmey-Archer company or about low-gear-count IGHs at all.) Could you imagine one on a Quickbeam/SimpleOne? I like the idea of a singlespeed bike. But I expect that with my weight (~240ish) and given that I have already flirted with slight knee pain, riding a singlespeed bike very much would not be my favorite thing (or the smartest thing) to do. Over time, I expect that launches would challenge my knees with any gearing that I could contemplate cruising in. I understand that the SimpleOne is designed to be more than just a singlespeed. But I know me; I really can't see me hopping off the bike and moving the rear wheel whenever I needed to exploit that fact. However, I've done some gearing arithmetic and have concluded that I might be happy with the two-speed duomatic hub. I could imagine launching in low (somewhat carefully) and then cruising in high (somewhat spinningly). But the carefully and Spinningly parts would be generally good things to do sometimes anyway. And, though I am in now way tired of biking the way I do now, I am on the lookout for ways to mix it up so as to keep riding as long as possible (think numbers of years, not distance per ride). I'm thinking the duomatic might even prove a gateway hub to actual singlespeed riding (theory being that if I keep riding in general, and sometimes a two-speed in particular, I'll continue to get healthier and become less vulnerable to knee pain as a result). I'm not remotely considering doing away with multi-speed riding (why would I leave my home in Hillborne heaven?). I've had uniformly bad experiences with multi-speed IGHs in the past (7- and 8-speed Shimanos of 5+ years ago). But I'm open to the idea that, with the duomatic being a two-speed and with IGHs having perhaps improved as they've become more popular in the mainstream since then, it might not give me problems like those hubs of yore. Any thoughts? Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean P.S. One possibility I'm considering is a completely cable-less SimpleOne with the coaster-brake version of the duomatic. That's the way I often rode bikes growing up; one rear brake, one rear gear. Though there'd be complexity hidden in the hub, the rest of the bike would be as simple as it gets. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleTwo?
Indeed it will. Do tell when the deed is done. The more I think about this idea the more I like it. Bikes are great. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Nov 25, 2010, at 6:17 AM, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: FWIW: My LBS can order the Sturmey Archer two speed hubs from QBP. I'm going to build it with a Mavic Open Sport rim to match the existing Quickbeam rims. The cogs, $3 each...certainly the cheapest part of this project. :-) It will be interesting to see how well this works. Angus On Nov 23, 6:13 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: This sounds like a very good option. I've only found one place in the US selling the S2C (coaster brake). I'll try my LBS as I don't really want the coaster brake. Anyone else know where to get these? Thanks! Angus On Nov 21, 9:50 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, all! Does anyone have any experience with the sorta new Sturmey-Archer duomatic hub? If so... Are they of reasonable quality (as opposed to being a novelty or a fashion-gimmick or something intended for a department-store bike)? If you have no experience but would venture an opinion, would you *expect* them to be of reasonable quality? (I know nothing about the modern Sturmey-Archer company or about low-gear-count IGHs at all.) Could you imagine one on a Quickbeam/SimpleOne? I like the idea of a singlespeed bike. But I expect that with my weight (~240ish) and given that I have already flirted with slight knee pain, riding a singlespeed bike very much would not be my favorite thing (or the smartest thing) to do. Over time, I expect that launches would challenge my knees with any gearing that I could contemplate cruising in. I understand that the SimpleOne is designed to be more than just a singlespeed. But I know me; I really can't see me hopping off the bike and moving the rear wheel whenever I needed to exploit that fact. However, I've done some gearing arithmetic and have concluded that I might be happy with the two-speed duomatic hub. I could imagine launching in low (somewhat carefully) and then cruising in high (somewhat spinningly). But the carefully and Spinningly parts would be generally good things to do sometimes anyway. And, though I am in now way tired of biking the way I do now, I am on the lookout for ways to mix it up so as to keep riding as long as possible (think numbers of years, not distance per ride). I'm thinking the duomatic might even prove a gateway hub to actual singlespeed riding (theory being that if I keep riding in general, and sometimes a two-speed in particular, I'll continue to get healthier and become less vulnerable to knee pain as a result). I'm not remotely considering doing away with multi-speed riding (why would I leave my home in Hillborne heaven?). I've had uniformly bad experiences with multi-speed IGHs in the past (7- and 8-speed Shimanos of 5+ years ago). But I'm open to the idea that, with the duomatic being a two-speed and with IGHs having perhaps improved as they've become more popular in the mainstream since then, it might not give me problems like those hubs of yore. Any thoughts? Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean P.S. One possibility I'm considering is a completely cable-less SimpleOne with the coaster-brake version of the duomatic. That's the way I often rode bikes growing up; one rear brake, one rear gear. Though there'd be complexity hidden in the hub, the rest of the bike would be as simple as it gets. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleTwo?
This sounds like a very good option. I've only found one place in the US selling the S2C (coaster brake). I'll try my LBS as I don't really want the coaster brake. Anyone else know where to get these? Thanks! Angus On Nov 21, 9:50 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, all! Does anyone have any experience with the sorta new Sturmey-Archer duomatic hub? If so... Are they of reasonable quality (as opposed to being a novelty or a fashion-gimmick or something intended for a department-store bike)? If you have no experience but would venture an opinion, would you *expect* them to be of reasonable quality? (I know nothing about the modern Sturmey-Archer company or about low-gear-count IGHs at all.) Could you imagine one on a Quickbeam/SimpleOne? I like the idea of a singlespeed bike. But I expect that with my weight (~240ish) and given that I have already flirted with slight knee pain, riding a singlespeed bike very much would not be my favorite thing (or the smartest thing) to do. Over time, I expect that launches would challenge my knees with any gearing that I could contemplate cruising in. I understand that the SimpleOne is designed to be more than just a singlespeed. But I know me; I really can't see me hopping off the bike and moving the rear wheel whenever I needed to exploit that fact. However, I've done some gearing arithmetic and have concluded that I might be happy with the two-speed duomatic hub. I could imagine launching in low (somewhat carefully) and then cruising in high (somewhat spinningly). But the carefully and Spinningly parts would be generally good things to do sometimes anyway. And, though I am in now way tired of biking the way I do now, I am on the lookout for ways to mix it up so as to keep riding as long as possible (think numbers of years, not distance per ride). I'm thinking the duomatic might even prove a gateway hub to actual singlespeed riding (theory being that if I keep riding in general, and sometimes a two-speed in particular, I'll continue to get healthier and become less vulnerable to knee pain as a result). I'm not remotely considering doing away with multi-speed riding (why would I leave my home in Hillborne heaven?). I've had uniformly bad experiences with multi-speed IGHs in the past (7- and 8-speed Shimanos of 5+ years ago). But I'm open to the idea that, with the duomatic being a two-speed and with IGHs having perhaps improved as they've become more popular in the mainstream since then, it might not give me problems like those hubs of yore. Any thoughts? Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean P.S. One possibility I'm considering is a completely cable-less SimpleOne with the coaster-brake version of the duomatic. That's the way I often rode bikes growing up; one rear brake, one rear gear. Though there'd be complexity hidden in the hub, the rest of the bike would be as simple as it gets. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleTwo?
Well, thanks all for the responses. My conclusion is this: The SimpleTwo is a reasonable notion. It definitely goes on the list of potential bike-y projects for me. It may be before or after or instead of or pre-empted by a mixte (still thinking about Betty as the Next Bike Thing). But I can enjoy chewing on both notions for a while. I certainly understand the concern at least one person expressed over relying solely on the hub (and therefore the chain) for braking. But if I curate (heh heh) a SimpleTwo, and if the SimpleOne is produced as a non-canti bike, I'd definitely get a S2C hub (S2 is the duomatic designation; C suffix indicates coaster brake) and try it without any rim brakes at some point. Canti studs might gnaw at me aesthetically too much, so I might not even bother to try it rim-brake-less if it is a canti-studded bike. But it seems that the Sturmey-Archer folks are pricing the S2* hubs such that getting a coaster-wheel built-up only to discover I don't like it would not be a horrible cost overrun. I'd sure love to ride a nice comfortable versatile bike with nothing but bars in the cockpit. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Nov 22, 1:20 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I found the same thing. My Sachs Automatic (same gear spread as the S- A kickback hub) is just less groovy-feeling than riding fixed. Philip Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com On Nov 21, 3:33 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I found that I preferred the feel of fixed gear riding on the Quickbeam. The S-A hub works quite nicely, and it would be a boon for touring or for riders who don't like to push quite so hard to get over the hills. --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org On Nov 21, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Will M wrote: I know there have been a number of successful Quickbeam internally- geared hub conversions discussed on this list. The one that inspired me most is by Eric Norris (post =http://bit.ly/9gyfnB;pics= http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/4225472677). But Eric switched back to singlespeed and sold the Sturmey-Archer. (post =http://bit.ly/9amjYM) Wonder why. On Nov 21, 10:50 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, all! Does anyone have any experience with the sorta new Sturmey-Archer duomatic hub? If so... Are they of reasonable quality (as opposed to being a novelty or a fashion-gimmick or something intended for a department-store bike)? If you have no experience but would venture an opinion, would you *expect* them to be of reasonable quality? (I know nothing about the modern Sturmey-Archer company or about low-gear-count IGHs at all.) Could you imagine one on a Quickbeam/SimpleOne? I like the idea of a singlespeed bike. But I expect that with my weight (~240ish) and given that I have already flirted with slight knee pain, riding a singlespeed bike very much would not be my favorite thing (or the smartest thing) to do. Over time, I expect that launches would challenge my knees with any gearing that I could contemplate cruising in. I understand that the SimpleOne is designed to be more than just a singlespeed. But I know me; I really can't see me hopping off the bike and moving the rear wheel whenever I needed to exploit that fact. However, I've done some gearing arithmetic and have concluded that I might be happy with the two-speed duomatic hub. I could imagine launching in low (somewhat carefully) and then cruising in high (somewhat spinningly). But the carefully and Spinningly parts would be generally good things to do sometimes anyway. And, though I am in now way tired of biking the way I do now, I am on the lookout for ways to mix it up so as to keep riding as long as possible (think numbers of years, not distance per ride). I'm thinking the duomatic might even prove a gateway hub to actual singlespeed riding (theory being that if I keep riding in general, and sometimes a two-speed in particular, I'll continue to get healthier and become less vulnerable to knee pain as a result). I'm not remotely considering doing away with multi-speed riding (why would I leave my home in Hillborne heaven?). I've had uniformly bad experiences with multi-speed IGHs in the past (7- and 8-speed Shimanos of 5+ years ago). But I'm open to the idea that, with the duomatic being a two-speed and with IGHs having perhaps improved as they've become more popular in the mainstream since then, it might not give me problems like those hubs of yore. Any thoughts? Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean P.S. One possibility I'm considering is a completely cable-less SimpleOne with the coaster-brake version of the duomatic. That's the way I often rode bikes growing up; one rear brake, one rear gear. Though there'd be complexity hidden in the hub, the rest of the
[RBW] Re: SimpleTwo?
I've thought of this too but I have found the rhythm of the ride on a single speed or in the case of the soon to be Simple One, two speed, to be different than a multi geared machine. My own home built with two ratios ( 51 and 65) works on all but the steepest hills and I am 265 and 52 years of age. Granted the spin on the flats can be somewhat irritating but not when you consider the climbing you will be doing. In fact, I find myself welcoming it. I find that more effort is used in climbing and I climb faster. When I get to the downhill side I coast and spin easily on the flats. I took a local 15 mile route with many hills and decided I would do it in the 51 inch and though I would go nuts with the excessive spinning but it wasn't bad at all and kind of relaxing. I only changed to the 65 inch at the last flat portion of the ride and took my time. If I were on a multi geared bike I would have been shifting up and pedaling on the downhills and shifting down and grinding up the climbs expending equal amounts of energy all the time and riding no faster. I think the QB setup is faster to change ratios than my current ride and the option of a really low climbing gear on the flip side is attractive. With a 22 tooth freewheel you can get a 39 inch gear which isn't bad for most regular steep hills. If I can't climb a hill I stop and walk or rest and continue. Most of the time on my particular route, I stay in the 65 inch and spin up to 130 rpm when I want to go fast, which isn't often. Someone riding a multi geared bike might be frustrated with your different ride rhythm but for solo rides and flat to rolling ground it makes little difference. On Nov 21, 7:50 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, all! Does anyone have any experience with the sorta new Sturmey-Archer duomatic hub? If so... Are they of reasonable quality (as opposed to being a novelty or a fashion-gimmick or something intended for a department-store bike)? If you have no experience but would venture an opinion, would you *expect* them to be of reasonable quality? (I know nothing about the modern Sturmey-Archer company or about low-gear-count IGHs at all.) Could you imagine one on a Quickbeam/SimpleOne? I like the idea of a singlespeed bike. But I expect that with my weight (~240ish) and given that I have already flirted with slight knee pain, riding a singlespeed bike very much would not be my favorite thing (or the smartest thing) to do. Over time, I expect that launches would challenge my knees with any gearing that I could contemplate cruising in. I understand that the SimpleOne is designed to be more than just a singlespeed. But I know me; I really can't see me hopping off the bike and moving the rear wheel whenever I needed to exploit that fact. However, I've done some gearing arithmetic and have concluded that I might be happy with the two-speed duomatic hub. I could imagine launching in low (somewhat carefully) and then cruising in high (somewhat spinningly). But the carefully and Spinningly parts would be generally good things to do sometimes anyway. And, though I am in now way tired of biking the way I do now, I am on the lookout for ways to mix it up so as to keep riding as long as possible (think numbers of years, not distance per ride). I'm thinking the duomatic might even prove a gateway hub to actual singlespeed riding (theory being that if I keep riding in general, and sometimes a two-speed in particular, I'll continue to get healthier and become less vulnerable to knee pain as a result). I'm not remotely considering doing away with multi-speed riding (why would I leave my home in Hillborne heaven?). I've had uniformly bad experiences with multi-speed IGHs in the past (7- and 8-speed Shimanos of 5+ years ago). But I'm open to the idea that, with the duomatic being a two-speed and with IGHs having perhaps improved as they've become more popular in the mainstream since then, it might not give me problems like those hubs of yore. Any thoughts? Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean P.S. One possibility I'm considering is a completely cable-less SimpleOne with the coaster-brake version of the duomatic. That's the way I often rode bikes growing up; one rear brake, one rear gear. Though there'd be complexity hidden in the hub, the rest of the bike would be as simple as it gets. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleTwo?
On Nov 21, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: One possibility I'm considering is a completely cable-less SimpleOne with the coaster-brake version of the duomatic. That's the way I often rode bikes growing up; one rear brake, one rear gear. Though there'd be complexity hidden in the hub, the rest of the bike would be as simple as it gets. I can't comment on the S-A two speed hub, but I did build up a track bike with a coaster brake rear wheel for commuting some years back, because (1) I already had the bike from my racing days and (2) it was a real track bike so there were no provisions for brakes at all. It worked fine but worried people would ask me where my brakes are (especially when they saw me coasting). If the markings on the brake arm were to be believed, this is a 1938 Bendix hub and is smooth as silk. I eventually transferred that wheel to another bike and sold the track bike to someone who wanted to race at our local velodrome. On the new bike, I put on a front brake because if the chain ever broke I would have no brakes. I used one of those interrupter brake levers by the stem which kept a very simple look to the bike. Now that bike has a coaster brake 3 speed hub. So my advice would be to have a front brake just in case. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleTwo?
Disregard prior question. I found it. From: Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, November 21, 2010 12:03:29 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleTwo? I went to the Sturmey web site. It does not list a 2-speed hub. Where did that info come from? From: Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, November 21, 2010 9:18:56 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: SimpleTwo? On Nov 21, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: One possibility I'm considering is a completely cable-less SimpleOne with the coaster-brake version of the duomatic. That's the way I often rode bikes growing up; one rear brake, one rear gear. Though there'd be complexity hidden in the hub, the rest of the bike would be as simple as it gets. I can't comment on the S-A two speed hub, but I did build up a track bike with a coaster brake rear wheel for commuting some years back, because (1) I already had the bike from my racing days and (2) it was a real track bike so there were no provisions for brakes at all. It worked fine but worried people would ask me where my brakes are (especially when they saw me coasting). If the markings on the brake arm were to be believed, this is a 1938 Bendix hub and is smooth as silk. I eventually transferred that wheel to another bike and sold the track bike to someone who wanted to race at our local velodrome. On the new bike, I put on a front brake because if the chain ever broke I would have no brakes. I used one of those interrupter brake levers by the stem which kept a very simple look to the bike. Now that bike has a coaster brake 3 speed hub. So my advice would be to have a front brake just in case. --You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleTwo?
I went to the Sturmey web site. It does not list a 2-speed hub. Where did that info come from? From: Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, November 21, 2010 9:18:56 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: SimpleTwo? On Nov 21, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: One possibility I'm considering is a completely cable-less SimpleOne with the coaster-brake version of the duomatic. That's the way I often rode bikes growing up; one rear brake, one rear gear. Though there'd be complexity hidden in the hub, the rest of the bike would be as simple as it gets. I can't comment on the S-A two speed hub, but I did build up a track bike with a coaster brake rear wheel for commuting some years back, because (1) I already had the bike from my racing days and (2) it was a real track bike so there were no provisions for brakes at all. It worked fine but worried people would ask me where my brakes are (especially when they saw me coasting). If the markings on the brake arm were to be believed, this is a 1938 Bendix hub and is smooth as silk. I eventually transferred that wheel to another bike and sold the track bike to someone who wanted to race at our local velodrome. On the new bike, I put on a front brake because if the chain ever broke I would have no brakes. I used one of those interrupter brake levers by the stem which kept a very simple look to the bike. Now that bike has a coaster brake 3 speed hub. So my advice would be to have a front brake just in case. --You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleTwo?
That brakeless kickback hub looks great. I'd like to be able to take the coaster brake out of my Sachs Automatic. I prefer to be able to backpedal to reorient my pedals at stops, and the brake is like 10 oz... Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On Nov 21, 12:21 pm, Doug Van Cleve dvancl...@gmail.com wrote: This would be super cool on a bike like you describe:http://www.sturmey-archer.com/products/hubs/cid/7/id/57. You would need front and rear brakes, but that is the way the RBW SS/fixie frames are designed, no? I am not sure this hub is available yet, but the coaster brake version is so I'm sure it will become availble soon(ish). Doug On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, all! Does anyone have any experience with the sorta new Sturmey-Archer duomatic hub? If so... Are they of reasonable quality (as opposed to being a novelty or a fashion-gimmick or something intended for a department-store bike)? If you have no experience but would venture an opinion, would you *expect* them to be of reasonable quality? (I know nothing about the modern Sturmey-Archer company or about low-gear-count IGHs at all.) Could you imagine one on a Quickbeam/SimpleOne? I like the idea of a singlespeed bike. But I expect that with my weight (~240ish) and given that I have already flirted with slight knee pain, riding a singlespeed bike very much would not be my favorite thing (or the smartest thing) to do. Over time, I expect that launches would challenge my knees with any gearing that I could contemplate cruising in. I understand that the SimpleOne is designed to be more than just a singlespeed. But I know me; I really can't see me hopping off the bike and moving the rear wheel whenever I needed to exploit that fact. However, I've done some gearing arithmetic and have concluded that I might be happy with the two-speed duomatic hub. I could imagine launching in low (somewhat carefully) and then cruising in high (somewhat spinningly). But the carefully and Spinningly parts would be generally good things to do sometimes anyway. And, though I am in now way tired of biking the way I do now, I am on the lookout for ways to mix it up so as to keep riding as long as possible (think numbers of years, not distance per ride). I'm thinking the duomatic might even prove a gateway hub to actual singlespeed riding (theory being that if I keep riding in general, and sometimes a two-speed in particular, I'll continue to get healthier and become less vulnerable to knee pain as a result). I'm not remotely considering doing away with multi-speed riding (why would I leave my home in Hillborne heaven?). I've had uniformly bad experiences with multi-speed IGHs in the past (7- and 8-speed Shimanos of 5+ years ago). But I'm open to the idea that, with the duomatic being a two-speed and with IGHs having perhaps improved as they've become more popular in the mainstream since then, it might not give me problems like those hubs of yore. Any thoughts? Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean P.S. One possibility I'm considering is a completely cable-less SimpleOne with the coaster-brake version of the duomatic. That's the way I often rode bikes growing up; one rear brake, one rear gear. Though there'd be complexity hidden in the hub, the rest of the bike would be as simple as it gets. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleTwo?
I know there have been a number of successful Quickbeam internally- geared hub conversions discussed on this list. The one that inspired me most is by Eric Norris (post = http://bit.ly/9gyfnB; pics = http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/4225472677 ). But Eric switched back to singlespeed and sold the Sturmey-Archer. (post = http://bit.ly/9amjYM) Wonder why. On Nov 21, 10:50 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, all! Does anyone have any experience with the sorta new Sturmey-Archer duomatic hub? If so... Are they of reasonable quality (as opposed to being a novelty or a fashion-gimmick or something intended for a department-store bike)? If you have no experience but would venture an opinion, would you *expect* them to be of reasonable quality? (I know nothing about the modern Sturmey-Archer company or about low-gear-count IGHs at all.) Could you imagine one on a Quickbeam/SimpleOne? I like the idea of a singlespeed bike. But I expect that with my weight (~240ish) and given that I have already flirted with slight knee pain, riding a singlespeed bike very much would not be my favorite thing (or the smartest thing) to do. Over time, I expect that launches would challenge my knees with any gearing that I could contemplate cruising in. I understand that the SimpleOne is designed to be more than just a singlespeed. But I know me; I really can't see me hopping off the bike and moving the rear wheel whenever I needed to exploit that fact. However, I've done some gearing arithmetic and have concluded that I might be happy with the two-speed duomatic hub. I could imagine launching in low (somewhat carefully) and then cruising in high (somewhat spinningly). But the carefully and Spinningly parts would be generally good things to do sometimes anyway. And, though I am in now way tired of biking the way I do now, I am on the lookout for ways to mix it up so as to keep riding as long as possible (think numbers of years, not distance per ride). I'm thinking the duomatic might even prove a gateway hub to actual singlespeed riding (theory being that if I keep riding in general, and sometimes a two-speed in particular, I'll continue to get healthier and become less vulnerable to knee pain as a result). I'm not remotely considering doing away with multi-speed riding (why would I leave my home in Hillborne heaven?). I've had uniformly bad experiences with multi-speed IGHs in the past (7- and 8-speed Shimanos of 5+ years ago). But I'm open to the idea that, with the duomatic being a two-speed and with IGHs having perhaps improved as they've become more popular in the mainstream since then, it might not give me problems like those hubs of yore. Any thoughts? Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean P.S. One possibility I'm considering is a completely cable-less SimpleOne with the coaster-brake version of the duomatic. That's the way I often rode bikes growing up; one rear brake, one rear gear. Though there'd be complexity hidden in the hub, the rest of the bike would be as simple as it gets. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleTwo?
I found that I preferred the feel of fixed gear riding on the Quickbeam. The S-A hub works quite nicely, and it would be a boon for touring or for riders who don't like to push quite so hard to get over the hills. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Nov 21, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Will M wrote: I know there have been a number of successful Quickbeam internally- geared hub conversions discussed on this list. The one that inspired me most is by Eric Norris (post = http://bit.ly/9gyfnB; pics = http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/4225472677 ). But Eric switched back to singlespeed and sold the Sturmey-Archer. (post = http://bit.ly/9amjYM) Wonder why. On Nov 21, 10:50 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, all! Does anyone have any experience with the sorta new Sturmey-Archer duomatic hub? If so... Are they of reasonable quality (as opposed to being a novelty or a fashion-gimmick or something intended for a department-store bike)? If you have no experience but would venture an opinion, would you *expect* them to be of reasonable quality? (I know nothing about the modern Sturmey-Archer company or about low-gear-count IGHs at all.) Could you imagine one on a Quickbeam/SimpleOne? I like the idea of a singlespeed bike. But I expect that with my weight (~240ish) and given that I have already flirted with slight knee pain, riding a singlespeed bike very much would not be my favorite thing (or the smartest thing) to do. Over time, I expect that launches would challenge my knees with any gearing that I could contemplate cruising in. I understand that the SimpleOne is designed to be more than just a singlespeed. But I know me; I really can't see me hopping off the bike and moving the rear wheel whenever I needed to exploit that fact. However, I've done some gearing arithmetic and have concluded that I might be happy with the two-speed duomatic hub. I could imagine launching in low (somewhat carefully) and then cruising in high (somewhat spinningly). But the carefully and Spinningly parts would be generally good things to do sometimes anyway. And, though I am in now way tired of biking the way I do now, I am on the lookout for ways to mix it up so as to keep riding as long as possible (think numbers of years, not distance per ride). I'm thinking the duomatic might even prove a gateway hub to actual singlespeed riding (theory being that if I keep riding in general, and sometimes a two-speed in particular, I'll continue to get healthier and become less vulnerable to knee pain as a result). I'm not remotely considering doing away with multi-speed riding (why would I leave my home in Hillborne heaven?). I've had uniformly bad experiences with multi-speed IGHs in the past (7- and 8-speed Shimanos of 5+ years ago). But I'm open to the idea that, with the duomatic being a two-speed and with IGHs having perhaps improved as they've become more popular in the mainstream since then, it might not give me problems like those hubs of yore. Any thoughts? Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean P.S. One possibility I'm considering is a completely cable-less SimpleOne with the coaster-brake version of the duomatic. That's the way I often rode bikes growing up; one rear brake, one rear gear. Though there'd be complexity hidden in the hub, the rest of the bike would be as simple as it gets. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleTwo?
I found the same thing. My Sachs Automatic (same gear spread as the S- A kickback hub) is just less groovy-feeling than riding fixed. Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On Nov 21, 3:33 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I found that I preferred the feel of fixed gear riding on the Quickbeam. The S-A hub works quite nicely, and it would be a boon for touring or for riders who don't like to push quite so hard to get over the hills. --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org On Nov 21, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Will M wrote: I know there have been a number of successful Quickbeam internally- geared hub conversions discussed on this list. The one that inspired me most is by Eric Norris (post =http://bit.ly/9gyfnB;pics = http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/4225472677). But Eric switched back to singlespeed and sold the Sturmey-Archer. (post =http://bit.ly/9amjYM) Wonder why. On Nov 21, 10:50 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, all! Does anyone have any experience with the sorta new Sturmey-Archer duomatic hub? If so... Are they of reasonable quality (as opposed to being a novelty or a fashion-gimmick or something intended for a department-store bike)? If you have no experience but would venture an opinion, would you *expect* them to be of reasonable quality? (I know nothing about the modern Sturmey-Archer company or about low-gear-count IGHs at all.) Could you imagine one on a Quickbeam/SimpleOne? I like the idea of a singlespeed bike. But I expect that with my weight (~240ish) and given that I have already flirted with slight knee pain, riding a singlespeed bike very much would not be my favorite thing (or the smartest thing) to do. Over time, I expect that launches would challenge my knees with any gearing that I could contemplate cruising in. I understand that the SimpleOne is designed to be more than just a singlespeed. But I know me; I really can't see me hopping off the bike and moving the rear wheel whenever I needed to exploit that fact. However, I've done some gearing arithmetic and have concluded that I might be happy with the two-speed duomatic hub. I could imagine launching in low (somewhat carefully) and then cruising in high (somewhat spinningly). But the carefully and Spinningly parts would be generally good things to do sometimes anyway. And, though I am in now way tired of biking the way I do now, I am on the lookout for ways to mix it up so as to keep riding as long as possible (think numbers of years, not distance per ride). I'm thinking the duomatic might even prove a gateway hub to actual singlespeed riding (theory being that if I keep riding in general, and sometimes a two-speed in particular, I'll continue to get healthier and become less vulnerable to knee pain as a result). I'm not remotely considering doing away with multi-speed riding (why would I leave my home in Hillborne heaven?). I've had uniformly bad experiences with multi-speed IGHs in the past (7- and 8-speed Shimanos of 5+ years ago). But I'm open to the idea that, with the duomatic being a two-speed and with IGHs having perhaps improved as they've become more popular in the mainstream since then, it might not give me problems like those hubs of yore. Any thoughts? Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean P.S. One possibility I'm considering is a completely cable-less SimpleOne with the coaster-brake version of the duomatic. That's the way I often rode bikes growing up; one rear brake, one rear gear. Though there'd be complexity hidden in the hub, the rest of the bike would be as simple as it gets. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
