[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-07-27 Thread allenmichael
Just arrived. Looks like everyone is out riding. I'm going in to morro bay for 
a taco and will come by again later.

Michael Allen

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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-07-27 Thread allenmichael
Just arrived. Looks like everyone is out riding. I'm going in to morro bay for 
a taco and will come by again later.

Michael Allen

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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-07-27 Thread allenmichael
Just arrived. Looks like everyone is out riding. I'm going in to morro bay for 
a taco and will come by again later.

Michael Allen

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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-07-21 Thread hsmitham
Doug,

I'm planning on being up Friday and don't have a place to stay yet. I 
suppose I can just go to Morro SP for Friday. Anyway I have your phone 
number so keep it charged and handy Friday.

~Hugh

On Saturday, July 20, 2013 8:17:00 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 Next weekend is coming fast.  I'm off the radar after Tuesday night so 
 contact me off-list for cell phone number.  That will be the ONLY way to 
 reach me.  I'm gone early Wed AM  am rarely interested in dealing with the 
 computer away from the comfort of my cave.  The information below is still 
 valid.  I will be at El Chorro site Bishop 9 on Saturday  Sunday.  That'll 
 be my first stop on Friday to see if I can grab another night but otherwise 
 it's Morro Bay SP (a pretty nice place too).  

 It would be handy if people would post an ETA (remember, the E is for 
 estimate; not a promise) so we all know who to look for  when.  Also, an 
 exchange of cell numbers can facilitate coordination.  

 Gotta go out  stick on the low riders  gather the gear.  Adventure 
 awaits.

 dougP

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 6:18:28 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 Two options that we can muse over:

 1.  I snake off a site for Friday night on the first come first save 
 lottery.  I'll be in Arroyo Grande Thursday night  that's maybe 20 miles 
 away.  I can easily get there by late AM on Friday.  

 2.  Plan B (if El Chorro is full on Friday) would be hiker-biker at El 
 Morro SP for Friday night only.  If driving, you could drive into the park 
 (I've got a pass so we'd need to coordinate), dump your stuff, go out  
 find a parking spot in town (pretty easy I think)  ride in.  No, I won't 
 set up your tent while you're gone :-).  Then move over to El Chorro on Sat.

 So far we've got Evan, Hugh, Manny  Doug.  

 Manny, if you get a couple of comprades, I suggest calling Paul Lee @ 
 805-781-5930, ext 4, and reserve a 2nd campsite.  It's only $25 per night 
 plus a $9 booking fee.  I don't have a feel for the size of the campsites 
 but IME 6 tents is about max.  I've slept thru earthquakes, trains, 
 generators, etc, but YMMV when it comes to proximity to other campers.

 dougP

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 4:03:45 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Doug,

 I plan on coming up on Friday, riding on the Sunday ride and returning 
 to Los Angeles that evening. Evan will be joining me on the drive up. I 
 guess I need to figure out accommodations for that Friday night.

 Best,

 ~Hugh

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 1:26:59 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 I just made a reservation for Sat July 27  Sun July 28 at El Chorro.  
 The site number is B-9 in the Bishop Loop.  Reservation is under my name, 
 Doug Peterson, if you arrive before I do.  

 dougP

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:24:47 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 I'll be coming down. so count me in. I plan on driving or if there is 
 room with other bay area folks I would love to car pool. 

 PM if you need a ride.

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:08:29 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 I just spoke with someone at the El Chorro Campground.  They will 
 take reservations for the weekend of July 27.  I'll make the reservation 
 BUT need to know headcount and arrival  departure dates.  Does anyone 
 plan 
 to arrive on Friday or earlier, or to stay Sunday or later?  My schedule 
 is 
 flexible and I intend to spend more than one night there but would like 
 to 
 coordinate with others if there's interest in a longer stay.  I told the 
 guy we would be around a half dozen people, each with small 1 person 
 backpacking tent (purposely keeping it a bit vague) and the response was 
 no problem.  Sites are available on first come first served without 
 reservation but I think having at least one site reserved would be a 
 good 
 thing.  

 Please post your plans soon so I can make the reservation and we can 
 start coordinating our travels.  

 dougP

 On Thursday, June 27, 2013 7:15:24 AM UTC-7, Evan Spacht wrote:

 Count me in for the Riv Ramble Scramble.
 Thought it was this weekend but I neglected to read the 'July' part 
 of the date.

 -Evan


 On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a 
 rumble in Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get 
 things semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind 
 driving down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?



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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-07-21 Thread Esteban
I've corresponded with Jim Warren a bit about this, but while I will be back in 
the U.S., this has collided with our vacation/anniversary trip to 
Mendocino/SF/points north over the next three weeks. Have a ball, and I will 
root for So Cal., as while I enjoy many friendships and miles to the north of 
the Monterey Co. line, I despise those Giants. Go, A's, though. 
Esteban

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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-07-21 Thread dougP
Hugh:

I'll let you know where I land.  I expect to have it worked out by mid-day 
to early afternoon.  

dougP

On Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:01:09 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Doug,

 I'm planning on being up Friday and don't have a place to stay yet. I 
 suppose I can just go to Morro SP for Friday. Anyway I have your phone 
 number so keep it charged and handy Friday.

 ~Hugh

 On Saturday, July 20, 2013 8:17:00 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 Next weekend is coming fast.  I'm off the radar after Tuesday night so 
 contact me off-list for cell phone number.  That will be the ONLY way to 
 reach me.  I'm gone early Wed AM  am rarely interested in dealing with the 
 computer away from the comfort of my cave.  The information below is still 
 valid.  I will be at El Chorro site Bishop 9 on Saturday  Sunday.  That'll 
 be my first stop on Friday to see if I can grab another night but otherwise 
 it's Morro Bay SP (a pretty nice place too).  

 It would be handy if people would post an ETA (remember, the E is for 
 estimate; not a promise) so we all know who to look for  when.  Also, an 
 exchange of cell numbers can facilitate coordination.  

 Gotta go out  stick on the low riders  gather the gear.  Adventure 
 awaits.

 dougP

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 6:18:28 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 Two options that we can muse over:

 1.  I snake off a site for Friday night on the first come first save 
 lottery.  I'll be in Arroyo Grande Thursday night  that's maybe 20 miles 
 away.  I can easily get there by late AM on Friday.  

 2.  Plan B (if El Chorro is full on Friday) would be hiker-biker at El 
 Morro SP for Friday night only.  If driving, you could drive into the park 
 (I've got a pass so we'd need to coordinate), dump your stuff, go out  
 find a parking spot in town (pretty easy I think)  ride in.  No, I won't 
 set up your tent while you're gone :-).  Then move over to El Chorro on Sat.

 So far we've got Evan, Hugh, Manny  Doug.  

 Manny, if you get a couple of comprades, I suggest calling Paul Lee @ 
 805-781-5930, ext 4, and reserve a 2nd campsite.  It's only $25 per night 
 plus a $9 booking fee.  I don't have a feel for the size of the campsites 
 but IME 6 tents is about max.  I've slept thru earthquakes, trains, 
 generators, etc, but YMMV when it comes to proximity to other campers.

 dougP

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 4:03:45 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Doug,

 I plan on coming up on Friday, riding on the Sunday ride and returning 
 to Los Angeles that evening. Evan will be joining me on the drive up. I 
 guess I need to figure out accommodations for that Friday night.

 Best,

 ~Hugh

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 1:26:59 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 I just made a reservation for Sat July 27  Sun July 28 at El Chorro.  
 The site number is B-9 in the Bishop Loop.  Reservation is under my name, 
 Doug Peterson, if you arrive before I do.  

 dougP

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:24:47 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 I'll be coming down. so count me in. I plan on driving or if there is 
 room with other bay area folks I would love to car pool. 

 PM if you need a ride.

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:08:29 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 I just spoke with someone at the El Chorro Campground.  They will 
 take reservations for the weekend of July 27.  I'll make the 
 reservation 
 BUT need to know headcount and arrival  departure dates.  Does anyone 
 plan 
 to arrive on Friday or earlier, or to stay Sunday or later?  My 
 schedule is 
 flexible and I intend to spend more than one night there but would like 
 to 
 coordinate with others if there's interest in a longer stay.  I told 
 the 
 guy we would be around a half dozen people, each with small 1 person 
 backpacking tent (purposely keeping it a bit vague) and the response 
 was 
 no problem.  Sites are available on first come first served without 
 reservation but I think having at least one site reserved would be a 
 good 
 thing.  

 Please post your plans soon so I can make the reservation and we can 
 start coordinating our travels.  

 dougP

 On Thursday, June 27, 2013 7:15:24 AM UTC-7, Evan Spacht wrote:

 Count me in for the Riv Ramble Scramble.
 Thought it was this weekend but I neglected to read the 'July' part 
 of the date.

 -Evan


 On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a 
 rumble in Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get 
 things semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind 
 driving down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?



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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-07-21 Thread dougP
Manny:

Sounds good.  The simplest thing I can think of is for you to meet us at El 
Chorro.  Space B-9 is in my name  paid for so even if you get there before 
I do it should be OK.  So far you have the only car so you can park there.  
Hugh, Evan  I will meet you there.  

dougP

On Sunday, July 21, 2013 8:13:51 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 My ETA on Saturuday is around 10ish or 11ish depending on whether I can 
 have anyone from the East Bay tag along. I was planning on leaving early 
 7ish. If anyone was planning on driving down I would love to carpool If not 
 I can drive.

 PM me off the list.

 -Manny

 On Sunday, July 21, 2013 11:27:32 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 Hugh:

 I'll let you know where I land.  I expect to have it worked out by 
 mid-day to early afternoon.  

 dougP

 On Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:01:09 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Doug,

 I'm planning on being up Friday and don't have a place to stay yet. I 
 suppose I can just go to Morro SP for Friday. Anyway I have your phone 
 number so keep it charged and handy Friday.

 ~Hugh

 On Saturday, July 20, 2013 8:17:00 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 Next weekend is coming fast.  I'm off the radar after Tuesday night so 
 contact me off-list for cell phone number.  That will be the ONLY way to 
 reach me.  I'm gone early Wed AM  am rarely interested in dealing with 
 the 
 computer away from the comfort of my cave.  The information below is still 
 valid.  I will be at El Chorro site Bishop 9 on Saturday  Sunday.  
 That'll 
 be my first stop on Friday to see if I can grab another night but 
 otherwise 
 it's Morro Bay SP (a pretty nice place too).  

 It would be handy if people would post an ETA (remember, the E is for 
 estimate; not a promise) so we all know who to look for  when.  Also, an 
 exchange of cell numbers can facilitate coordination.  

 Gotta go out  stick on the low riders  gather the gear.  Adventure 
 awaits.

 dougP

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 6:18:28 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 Two options that we can muse over:

 1.  I snake off a site for Friday night on the first come first save 
 lottery.  I'll be in Arroyo Grande Thursday night  that's maybe 20 miles 
 away.  I can easily get there by late AM on Friday.  

 2.  Plan B (if El Chorro is full on Friday) would be hiker-biker at El 
 Morro SP for Friday night only.  If driving, you could drive into the 
 park 
 (I've got a pass so we'd need to coordinate), dump your stuff, go out  
 find a parking spot in town (pretty easy I think)  ride in.  No, I won't 
 set up your tent while you're gone :-).  Then move over to El Chorro on 
 Sat.

 So far we've got Evan, Hugh, Manny  Doug.  

 Manny, if you get a couple of comprades, I suggest calling Paul Lee @ 
 805-781-5930, ext 4, and reserve a 2nd campsite.  It's only $25 per night 
 plus a $9 booking fee.  I don't have a feel for the size of the campsites 
 but IME 6 tents is about max.  I've slept thru earthquakes, trains, 
 generators, etc, but YMMV when it comes to proximity to other campers.

 dougP

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 4:03:45 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Doug,

 I plan on coming up on Friday, riding on the Sunday ride and 
 returning to Los Angeles that evening. Evan will be joining me on the 
 drive 
 up. I guess I need to figure out accommodations for that Friday night.

 Best,

 ~Hugh

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 1:26:59 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 I just made a reservation for Sat July 27  Sun July 28 at El 
 Chorro.  The site number is B-9 in the Bishop Loop.  Reservation is 
 under 
 my name, Doug Peterson, if you arrive before I do.  

 dougP

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:24:47 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 I'll be coming down. so count me in. I plan on driving or if there 
 is room with other bay area folks I would love to car pool. 

 PM if you need a ride.

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:08:29 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 I just spoke with someone at the El Chorro Campground.  They will 
 take reservations for the weekend of July 27.  I'll make the 
 reservation 
 BUT need to know headcount and arrival  departure dates.  Does 
 anyone plan 
 to arrive on Friday or earlier, or to stay Sunday or later?  My 
 schedule is 
 flexible and I intend to spend more than one night there but would 
 like to 
 coordinate with others if there's interest in a longer stay.  I told 
 the 
 guy we would be around a half dozen people, each with small 1 person 
 backpacking tent (purposely keeping it a bit vague) and the response 
 was 
 no problem.  Sites are available on first come first served without 
 reservation but I think having at least one site reserved would be a 
 good 
 thing.  

 Please post your plans soon so I can make the reservation and we 
 can start coordinating our travels.  

 dougP

 On Thursday, June 27, 2013 7:15:24 AM UTC-7, Evan Spacht wrote:

 Count me in for the Riv Ramble Scramble.
 Thought it was this weekend but I neglected to read the 'July' 
 part of the date.

 -Evan


 On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, 

[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-07-21 Thread Manuel Acosta
My ETA on Saturuday is around 10ish or 11ish depending on whether I can 
have anyone from the East Bay tag along. I was planning on leaving early 
7ish. If anyone was planning on driving down I would love to carpool If not 
I can drive.

PM me off the list.

-Manny

On Sunday, July 21, 2013 11:27:32 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 Hugh:

 I'll let you know where I land.  I expect to have it worked out by mid-day 
 to early afternoon.  

 dougP

 On Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:01:09 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Doug,

 I'm planning on being up Friday and don't have a place to stay yet. I 
 suppose I can just go to Morro SP for Friday. Anyway I have your phone 
 number so keep it charged and handy Friday.

 ~Hugh

 On Saturday, July 20, 2013 8:17:00 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 Next weekend is coming fast.  I'm off the radar after Tuesday night so 
 contact me off-list for cell phone number.  That will be the ONLY way to 
 reach me.  I'm gone early Wed AM  am rarely interested in dealing with the 
 computer away from the comfort of my cave.  The information below is still 
 valid.  I will be at El Chorro site Bishop 9 on Saturday  Sunday.  That'll 
 be my first stop on Friday to see if I can grab another night but otherwise 
 it's Morro Bay SP (a pretty nice place too).  

 It would be handy if people would post an ETA (remember, the E is for 
 estimate; not a promise) so we all know who to look for  when.  Also, an 
 exchange of cell numbers can facilitate coordination.  

 Gotta go out  stick on the low riders  gather the gear.  Adventure 
 awaits.

 dougP

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 6:18:28 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 Two options that we can muse over:

 1.  I snake off a site for Friday night on the first come first save 
 lottery.  I'll be in Arroyo Grande Thursday night  that's maybe 20 miles 
 away.  I can easily get there by late AM on Friday.  

 2.  Plan B (if El Chorro is full on Friday) would be hiker-biker at El 
 Morro SP for Friday night only.  If driving, you could drive into the park 
 (I've got a pass so we'd need to coordinate), dump your stuff, go out  
 find a parking spot in town (pretty easy I think)  ride in.  No, I won't 
 set up your tent while you're gone :-).  Then move over to El Chorro on 
 Sat.

 So far we've got Evan, Hugh, Manny  Doug.  

 Manny, if you get a couple of comprades, I suggest calling Paul Lee @ 
 805-781-5930, ext 4, and reserve a 2nd campsite.  It's only $25 per night 
 plus a $9 booking fee.  I don't have a feel for the size of the campsites 
 but IME 6 tents is about max.  I've slept thru earthquakes, trains, 
 generators, etc, but YMMV when it comes to proximity to other campers.

 dougP

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 4:03:45 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Doug,

 I plan on coming up on Friday, riding on the Sunday ride and returning 
 to Los Angeles that evening. Evan will be joining me on the drive up. I 
 guess I need to figure out accommodations for that Friday night.

 Best,

 ~Hugh

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 1:26:59 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 I just made a reservation for Sat July 27  Sun July 28 at El 
 Chorro.  The site number is B-9 in the Bishop Loop.  Reservation is 
 under 
 my name, Doug Peterson, if you arrive before I do.  

 dougP

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:24:47 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 I'll be coming down. so count me in. I plan on driving or if there 
 is room with other bay area folks I would love to car pool. 

 PM if you need a ride.

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:08:29 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 I just spoke with someone at the El Chorro Campground.  They will 
 take reservations for the weekend of July 27.  I'll make the 
 reservation 
 BUT need to know headcount and arrival  departure dates.  Does anyone 
 plan 
 to arrive on Friday or earlier, or to stay Sunday or later?  My 
 schedule is 
 flexible and I intend to spend more than one night there but would 
 like to 
 coordinate with others if there's interest in a longer stay.  I told 
 the 
 guy we would be around a half dozen people, each with small 1 person 
 backpacking tent (purposely keeping it a bit vague) and the response 
 was 
 no problem.  Sites are available on first come first served without 
 reservation but I think having at least one site reserved would be a 
 good 
 thing.  

 Please post your plans soon so I can make the reservation and we 
 can start coordinating our travels.  

 dougP

 On Thursday, June 27, 2013 7:15:24 AM UTC-7, Evan Spacht wrote:

 Count me in for the Riv Ramble Scramble.
 Thought it was this weekend but I neglected to read the 'July' 
 part of the date.

 -Evan


 On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a 
 rumble in Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get 
 things semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind 
 driving down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?



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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-07-20 Thread dougP
Next weekend is coming fast.  I'm off the radar after Tuesday night so 
contact me off-list for cell phone number.  That will be the ONLY way to 
reach me.  I'm gone early Wed AM  am rarely interested in dealing with the 
computer away from the comfort of my cave.  The information below is still 
valid.  I will be at El Chorro site Bishop 9 on Saturday  Sunday.  That'll 
be my first stop on Friday to see if I can grab another night but otherwise 
it's Morro Bay SP (a pretty nice place too).  

It would be handy if people would post an ETA (remember, the E is for 
estimate; not a promise) so we all know who to look for  when.  Also, an 
exchange of cell numbers can facilitate coordination.  

Gotta go out  stick on the low riders  gather the gear.  Adventure awaits.

dougP

On Monday, July 8, 2013 6:18:28 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 Two options that we can muse over:

 1.  I snake off a site for Friday night on the first come first save 
 lottery.  I'll be in Arroyo Grande Thursday night  that's maybe 20 miles 
 away.  I can easily get there by late AM on Friday.  

 2.  Plan B (if El Chorro is full on Friday) would be hiker-biker at El 
 Morro SP for Friday night only.  If driving, you could drive into the park 
 (I've got a pass so we'd need to coordinate), dump your stuff, go out  
 find a parking spot in town (pretty easy I think)  ride in.  No, I won't 
 set up your tent while you're gone :-).  Then move over to El Chorro on Sat.

 So far we've got Evan, Hugh, Manny  Doug.  

 Manny, if you get a couple of comprades, I suggest calling Paul Lee @ 
 805-781-5930, ext 4, and reserve a 2nd campsite.  It's only $25 per night 
 plus a $9 booking fee.  I don't have a feel for the size of the campsites 
 but IME 6 tents is about max.  I've slept thru earthquakes, trains, 
 generators, etc, but YMMV when it comes to proximity to other campers.

 dougP

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 4:03:45 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Doug,

 I plan on coming up on Friday, riding on the Sunday ride and returning to 
 Los Angeles that evening. Evan will be joining me on the drive up. I guess 
 I need to figure out accommodations for that Friday night.

 Best,

 ~Hugh

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 1:26:59 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 I just made a reservation for Sat July 27  Sun July 28 at El Chorro.  
 The site number is B-9 in the Bishop Loop.  Reservation is under my name, 
 Doug Peterson, if you arrive before I do.  

 dougP

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:24:47 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 I'll be coming down. so count me in. I plan on driving or if there is 
 room with other bay area folks I would love to car pool. 

 PM if you need a ride.

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:08:29 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 I just spoke with someone at the El Chorro Campground.  They will take 
 reservations for the weekend of July 27.  I'll make the reservation BUT 
 need to know headcount and arrival  departure dates.  Does anyone plan 
 to 
 arrive on Friday or earlier, or to stay Sunday or later?  My schedule is 
 flexible and I intend to spend more than one night there but would like 
 to 
 coordinate with others if there's interest in a longer stay.  I told the 
 guy we would be around a half dozen people, each with small 1 person 
 backpacking tent (purposely keeping it a bit vague) and the response was 
 no problem.  Sites are available on first come first served without 
 reservation but I think having at least one site reserved would be a good 
 thing.  

 Please post your plans soon so I can make the reservation and we can 
 start coordinating our travels.  

 dougP

 On Thursday, June 27, 2013 7:15:24 AM UTC-7, Evan Spacht wrote:

 Count me in for the Riv Ramble Scramble.
 Thought it was this weekend but I neglected to read the 'July' part 
 of the date.

 -Evan


 On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a 
 rumble in Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get 
 things semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind 
 driving down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?



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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-07-08 Thread dougP
I just spoke with someone at the El Chorro Campground.  They will take 
reservations for the weekend of July 27.  I'll make the reservation BUT 
need to know headcount and arrival  departure dates.  Does anyone plan to 
arrive on Friday or earlier, or to stay Sunday or later?  My schedule is 
flexible and I intend to spend more than one night there but would like to 
coordinate with others if there's interest in a longer stay.  I told the 
guy we would be around a half dozen people, each with small 1 person 
backpacking tent (purposely keeping it a bit vague) and the response was 
no problem.  Sites are available on first come first served without 
reservation but I think having at least one site reserved would be a good 
thing.  

Please post your plans soon so I can make the reservation and we can start 
coordinating our travels.  

dougP

On Thursday, June 27, 2013 7:15:24 AM UTC-7, Evan Spacht wrote:

 Count me in for the Riv Ramble Scramble.
 Thought it was this weekend but I neglected to read the 'July' part of the 
 date.

 -Evan


 On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in 
 Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things 
 semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving 
 down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?



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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-07-08 Thread Manuel Acosta
I'll be coming down. so count me in. I plan on driving or if there is room 
with other bay area folks I would love to car pool. 

PM if you need a ride.

On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:08:29 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 I just spoke with someone at the El Chorro Campground.  They will take 
 reservations for the weekend of July 27.  I'll make the reservation BUT 
 need to know headcount and arrival  departure dates.  Does anyone plan to 
 arrive on Friday or earlier, or to stay Sunday or later?  My schedule is 
 flexible and I intend to spend more than one night there but would like to 
 coordinate with others if there's interest in a longer stay.  I told the 
 guy we would be around a half dozen people, each with small 1 person 
 backpacking tent (purposely keeping it a bit vague) and the response was 
 no problem.  Sites are available on first come first served without 
 reservation but I think having at least one site reserved would be a good 
 thing.  

 Please post your plans soon so I can make the reservation and we can start 
 coordinating our travels.  

 dougP

 On Thursday, June 27, 2013 7:15:24 AM UTC-7, Evan Spacht wrote:

 Count me in for the Riv Ramble Scramble.
 Thought it was this weekend but I neglected to read the 'July' part of 
 the date.

 -Evan


 On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in 
 Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things 
 semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving 
 down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?



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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-07-08 Thread dougP
I just made a reservation for Sat July 27  Sun July 28 at El Chorro.  The 
site number is B-9 in the Bishop Loop.  Reservation is under my name, Doug 
Peterson, if you arrive before I do.  

dougP

On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:24:47 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 I'll be coming down. so count me in. I plan on driving or if there is room 
 with other bay area folks I would love to car pool. 

 PM if you need a ride.

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:08:29 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 I just spoke with someone at the El Chorro Campground.  They will take 
 reservations for the weekend of July 27.  I'll make the reservation BUT 
 need to know headcount and arrival  departure dates.  Does anyone plan to 
 arrive on Friday or earlier, or to stay Sunday or later?  My schedule is 
 flexible and I intend to spend more than one night there but would like to 
 coordinate with others if there's interest in a longer stay.  I told the 
 guy we would be around a half dozen people, each with small 1 person 
 backpacking tent (purposely keeping it a bit vague) and the response was 
 no problem.  Sites are available on first come first served without 
 reservation but I think having at least one site reserved would be a good 
 thing.  

 Please post your plans soon so I can make the reservation and we can 
 start coordinating our travels.  

 dougP

 On Thursday, June 27, 2013 7:15:24 AM UTC-7, Evan Spacht wrote:

 Count me in for the Riv Ramble Scramble.
 Thought it was this weekend but I neglected to read the 'July' part of 
 the date.

 -Evan


 On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble 
 in Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things 
 semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind 
 driving down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?



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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-07-08 Thread hsmitham
Doug,

I plan on coming up on Friday, riding on the Sunday ride and returning to 
Los Angeles that evening. Evan will be joining me on the drive up. I guess 
I need to figure out accommodations for that Friday night.

Best,

~Hugh

On Monday, July 8, 2013 1:26:59 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 I just made a reservation for Sat July 27  Sun July 28 at El Chorro.  The 
 site number is B-9 in the Bishop Loop.  Reservation is under my name, Doug 
 Peterson, if you arrive before I do.  

 dougP

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:24:47 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 I'll be coming down. so count me in. I plan on driving or if there is 
 room with other bay area folks I would love to car pool. 

 PM if you need a ride.

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:08:29 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 I just spoke with someone at the El Chorro Campground.  They will take 
 reservations for the weekend of July 27.  I'll make the reservation BUT 
 need to know headcount and arrival  departure dates.  Does anyone plan to 
 arrive on Friday or earlier, or to stay Sunday or later?  My schedule is 
 flexible and I intend to spend more than one night there but would like to 
 coordinate with others if there's interest in a longer stay.  I told the 
 guy we would be around a half dozen people, each with small 1 person 
 backpacking tent (purposely keeping it a bit vague) and the response was 
 no problem.  Sites are available on first come first served without 
 reservation but I think having at least one site reserved would be a good 
 thing.  

 Please post your plans soon so I can make the reservation and we can 
 start coordinating our travels.  

 dougP

 On Thursday, June 27, 2013 7:15:24 AM UTC-7, Evan Spacht wrote:

 Count me in for the Riv Ramble Scramble.
 Thought it was this weekend but I neglected to read the 'July' part of 
 the date.

 -Evan


 On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble 
 in Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things 
 semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind 
 driving down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?



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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-07-08 Thread dougP
Two options that we can muse over:

1.  I snake off a site for Friday night on the first come first save 
lottery.  I'll be in Arroyo Grande Thursday night  that's maybe 20 miles 
away.  I can easily get there by late AM on Friday.  

2.  Plan B (if El Chorro is full on Friday) would be hiker-biker at El 
Morro SP for Friday night only.  If driving, you could drive into the park 
(I've got a pass so we'd need to coordinate), dump your stuff, go out  
find a parking spot in town (pretty easy I think)  ride in.  No, I won't 
set up your tent while you're gone :-).  Then move over to El Chorro on Sat.

So far we've got Evan, Hugh, Manny  Doug.  

Manny, if you get a couple of comprades, I suggest calling Paul Lee @ 
805-781-5930, ext 4, and reserve a 2nd campsite.  It's only $25 per night 
plus a $9 booking fee.  I don't have a feel for the size of the campsites 
but IME 6 tents is about max.  I've slept thru earthquakes, trains, 
generators, etc, but YMMV when it comes to proximity to other campers.

dougP

On Monday, July 8, 2013 4:03:45 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Doug,

 I plan on coming up on Friday, riding on the Sunday ride and returning to 
 Los Angeles that evening. Evan will be joining me on the drive up. I guess 
 I need to figure out accommodations for that Friday night.

 Best,

 ~Hugh

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 1:26:59 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 I just made a reservation for Sat July 27  Sun July 28 at El Chorro.  
 The site number is B-9 in the Bishop Loop.  Reservation is under my name, 
 Doug Peterson, if you arrive before I do.  

 dougP

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:24:47 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 I'll be coming down. so count me in. I plan on driving or if there is 
 room with other bay area folks I would love to car pool. 

 PM if you need a ride.

 On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:08:29 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 I just spoke with someone at the El Chorro Campground.  They will take 
 reservations for the weekend of July 27.  I'll make the reservation BUT 
 need to know headcount and arrival  departure dates.  Does anyone plan to 
 arrive on Friday or earlier, or to stay Sunday or later?  My schedule is 
 flexible and I intend to spend more than one night there but would like to 
 coordinate with others if there's interest in a longer stay.  I told the 
 guy we would be around a half dozen people, each with small 1 person 
 backpacking tent (purposely keeping it a bit vague) and the response was 
 no problem.  Sites are available on first come first served without 
 reservation but I think having at least one site reserved would be a good 
 thing.  

 Please post your plans soon so I can make the reservation and we can 
 start coordinating our travels.  

 dougP

 On Thursday, June 27, 2013 7:15:24 AM UTC-7, Evan Spacht wrote:

 Count me in for the Riv Ramble Scramble.
 Thought it was this weekend but I neglected to read the 'July' part of 
 the date.

 -Evan


 On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble 
 in Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get 
 things semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind 
 driving down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?



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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-07-07 Thread Evan
Pam:  

You might call these shops. They are country-bike-friendly. If they can't 
rent you a bike, they might at least steer you to the best bike rental 
place among the many out there.

American Cyclery, 510 Frederick St, (415) 664-4545

Citizen Chain, 2064 Powell St, (415) 796-2925

Box Dog Bikes, 494 14th St, (415) 431-9627

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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-07-07 Thread pam
Thanks for the tips.  This is most helpful.  I'll see what I rent.  By the 
way, what do you ride?  I ride a Betty Foy.  She's great!


On Sunday, July 7, 2013 3:32:26 AM UTC-4, Evan wrote:

 Pam:  

 You might call these shops. They are country-bike-friendly. If they can't 
 rent you a bike, they might at least steer you to the best bike rental 
 place among the many out there.

 American Cyclery, 510 Frederick St, (415) 664-4545

 Citizen Chain, 2064 Powell St, (415) 796-2925

 Box Dog Bikes, 494 14th St, (415) 431-9627


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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-07-06 Thread pam
This is OT but I'm planning a trip to San Fran and would like to rent a 
bike.  Would you know a shop I can call?  The SFBP is on the first Fri. 
 Have you ever ridden in it?


On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 1:53:02 AM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in 
 Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things 
 semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving 
 down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?


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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-07-06 Thread Minh
pam hopefully someone can suggest a riv-ish option, but for non-rivish 
there are a ton of shops which will rent you a hybrid bike in the city, it 
runs about $20-30 a day.

a lesser known secret is that if you stay at a kimpton hotel, they have 
bikes you can checkout for free.   i've stayed at the harbor court (public 
bikes, but only 2-3 so you have to get one early in the morning), i've also 
stayed at the drake, which does not have any bikes on-site but if you talk 
to the concierge they will give you a coupon for a free rental from a place 
around the corner.

of course if you're not staying in a hotel this would not apply :)

On Saturday, July 6, 2013 12:32:14 PM UTC-4, pam wrote:

 This is OT but I'm planning a trip to San Fran and would like to rent a 
 bike.  Would you know a shop I can call?  The SFBP is on the first Fri. 
  Have you ever ridden in it?




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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-27 Thread Evan Spacht
Count me in for the Riv Ramble Scramble.
Thought it was this weekend but I neglected to read the 'July' part of the 
date.

-Evan


On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in 
 Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things 
 semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving 
 down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?


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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-20 Thread dougP
Manny:

That post would also be a good time to ask people whether they plan to join 
in the fun.  Mike had looked into the campground details  there was a 
limit per campsite but it was reasonable.  

dougP

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:09:10 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Any objections? If this is fine with everyone I'll make a separate post 
 just for the official shindig. 





 separate On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:48:47 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 Manny:

 Thanks for driving the stake.  I'll see you at El Chorro on Saturday 
 afternoon.  

 dougP

 On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:59:58 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Mike this helps a lot. thanks!
 So details so far.


 Date: July 27-28
 Location: El Chorro campgrounds 

 I'm planing on leaving early sometime Saturday. Hoping getting there 
 sometime in the afternoon.

 This okay with everyone?

 On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:41:50 PM UTC-7, Mitch Browne wrote:

 Manny,

 I've been mostly keeping out of this discussion but will offer my local 
 insight here.

 I work at Cuesta College, half-way between SLO and Morro Bay. It also 
 happens to be directly across Highway 1 from El Chorro campground.

 I ride to work most days and the campus is right at the Marine 
 curtain between inland and coast influences. From my house in SLO 8 
 miles 
 away I can never predict what the weather will be close to campus. It's a 
 nice mix of sunny 6:30 mornings or maybe misting fog. This morning it was 
 foggy all the way to the coast. yesterday it was sunny though foggy on the 
 coast.

 Summer is foggy most days in Morro Bay. I like the fog for a few miles 
 but once I get wet and start to cool I appreciate sunshine. Your chances 
 are good that you will see fog most of the day and night at Morro Strand 
 campground. You're likely to see sun sometime in the morning at El Chorro. 
 Chance are you'll see sun even sooner in SLO.

 We just hired a new web programmer from Hanford who camped at El Chorro 
 last week. He said they have lots of primitive campsites that are 
 first-come-first-served, no reservations. He added that the $1 in quarters 
 gets you 10 minutes of hot shower water.It's a county park staffed by 
 county rangers who close up about 5pm.

 IF the Hostel were still an alternative I'll try to think of a place 
 you might be able to store bikes for the night but none come immediately 
 to 
 mind. The Hostel is about 200 feet down a small hill from the train 
 station. Doug, bike parking appears to be in a rack along the Hostel 
 driveway entrance. I'll try to stop by after work and ask about bike 
 parking and maybe take pictures.

 If you're planning on riding toward the coast I'd recommend gloves, 
 wool, and some sort of beanie.

 There is much to do for everyone but little time ;) Cheers, Mitch




 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Manuel Acosta 
 manueljo...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Seems like we are having trouble with camping grounds.

 Here's my proposed idea. I don't know how a handful of folks feel 
 about it. BUT this could work out with some local knowledge around the 
 area.

 We could all meet (via car or bike or train or spaceship) at a 
 designated spot. 

 Then we ride to a STEALH camping location good enough for a good group 
 of folks. Then ride Sunday Morning somewhere. 

 I don't know how big of a group we are having but if I'm sure we can 
 get a head count. 

 I try not to over think this things. We can worry about camp showers 
 and water but seriously it's just going to be a night. 

 Any thoughts?

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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-20 Thread Evan Spacht

Hi folks,

I was curious if there's anyone driving up from the LA area who would be 
willing to let me tag along.
I'd love to join in for this one, but without a car, and limited resources, 
it could be difficult getting up there. Has anyone used the Amtrak ?

kindly,
Evan


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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-20 Thread dougP
Evan:

Amtrak is pretty easy once you get used to their website, and sort thru the 
schedules.  So as not to sidetrack the thread, contact me directly if you'd 
like help with it.  

dougP

On Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:07:28 AM UTC-7, Evan Spacht wrote:


 Hi folks,

 I was curious if there's anyone driving up from the LA area who would be 
 willing to let me tag along.
 I'd love to join in for this one, but without a car, and limited 
 resources, it could be difficult getting up there. Has anyone used the 
 Amtrak ?

 kindly,
 Evan




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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-20 Thread Mike Schiller
I'm riding up on the Surfliner on Friday the 25th that leaves Union Station 
at 735 am arriving in SLO at 100 pm.
There are only two trains per day that go all the way to SLO with bike 
racks. The other arrives at 800 pm. 

~mike

On Thursday, June 20, 2013 12:09:04 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 Evan:

 Amtrak is pretty easy once you get used to their website, and sort thru 
 the schedules.  So as not to sidetrack the thread, contact me directly if 
 you'd like help with it.  

 dougP

 On Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:07:28 AM UTC-7, Evan Spacht wrote:


 Hi folks,

 I was curious if there's anyone driving up from the LA area who would be 
 willing to let me tag along.
 I'd love to join in for this one, but without a car, and limited 
 resources, it could be difficult getting up there. Has anyone used the 
 Amtrak ?

 kindly,
 Evan




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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-20 Thread hsmitham
Hi Rivsters,

Well just rolled into Paso Robles after seeing some of California's finest. 
Been outta the loop for a bit so lets see if I've got the plans down. Meeting 
up @ El Chorro on Saturday camping that night and riding on Sunday. Mike are 
you still camping at Morro Strand?

Hugh

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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-20 Thread Mike Schiller
Hugh, I haven't made any reservations yet. Could stay at any the 
campgrounds depending on who is up there Friday. I'll be self contained on 
my bike.

~mike


On Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:14:09 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Hi Rivsters,

 Well just rolled into Paso Robles after seeing some of California's 
 finest. Been outta the loop for a bit so lets see if I've got the plans 
 down. Meeting up @ El Chorro on Saturday camping that night and riding on 
 Sunday. Mike are you still camping at Morro Strand?

 Hugh



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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-20 Thread dougP
So far that looks to be the anchor point, with individual arrival  
departure dates TBD.  I'll be in the area earlier  likely stay later but 
nothing fixed yet.  

Hugh,  I know you're on a timeline back from Paso but we'll look for a trip 
report with photos soon.  

dougP

On Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:14:09 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Hi Rivsters,

 Well just rolled into Paso Robles after seeing some of California's 
 finest. Been outta the loop for a bit so lets see if I've got the plans 
 down. Meeting up @ El Chorro on Saturday camping that night and riding on 
 Sunday. Mike are you still camping at Morro Strand?

 Hugh



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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-20 Thread dougP
Morro Bay SP hiker-biker sounds good for Friday night.  

dougP

On Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:09:29 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 Hugh, I haven't made any reservations yet. Could stay at any the 
 campgrounds depending on who is up there Friday. I'll be self contained on 
 my bike.

 ~mike


 On Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:14:09 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Hi Rivsters,

 Well just rolled into Paso Robles after seeing some of California's 
 finest. Been outta the loop for a bit so lets see if I've got the plans 
 down. Meeting up @ El Chorro on Saturday camping that night and riding on 
 Sunday. Mike are you still camping at Morro Strand?

 Hugh



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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-20 Thread Hugh Smitham
Doug,

Haven't yet seen my pictures on a good screen and will have some editing to
do but I'll have em up soon. I think you'll enjoy them.

I learned a lot and for sure have the cyclotourist bug.

-Hugh
On Jun 20, 2013 9:04 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 So far that looks to be the anchor point, with individual arrival 
 departure dates TBD.  I'll be in the area earlier  likely stay later but
 nothing fixed yet.

 Hugh,  I know you're on a timeline back from Paso but we'll look for a
 trip report with photos soon.

 dougP

 On Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:14:09 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Hi Rivsters,

 Well just rolled into Paso Robles after seeing some of California's
 finest. Been outta the loop for a bit so lets see if I've got the plans
 down. Meeting up @ El Chorro on Saturday camping that night and riding on
 Sunday. Mike are you still camping at Morro Strand?

 Hugh

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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-19 Thread dougP
Manny:

Thanks for driving the stake.  I'll see you at El Chorro on Saturday 
afternoon.  

dougP

On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:59:58 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Mike this helps a lot. thanks!
 So details so far.


 Date: July 27-28
 Location: El Chorro campgrounds 

 I'm planing on leaving early sometime Saturday. Hoping getting there 
 sometime in the afternoon.

 This okay with everyone?

 On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:41:50 PM UTC-7, Mitch Browne wrote:

 Manny,

 I've been mostly keeping out of this discussion but will offer my local 
 insight here.

 I work at Cuesta College, half-way between SLO and Morro Bay. It also 
 happens to be directly across Highway 1 from El Chorro campground.

 I ride to work most days and the campus is right at the Marine curtain 
 between inland and coast influences. From my house in SLO 8 miles away I 
 can never predict what the weather will be close to campus. It's a nice mix 
 of sunny 6:30 mornings or maybe misting fog. This morning it was foggy all 
 the way to the coast. yesterday it was sunny though foggy on the coast.

 Summer is foggy most days in Morro Bay. I like the fog for a few miles 
 but once I get wet and start to cool I appreciate sunshine. Your chances 
 are good that you will see fog most of the day and night at Morro Strand 
 campground. You're likely to see sun sometime in the morning at El Chorro. 
 Chance are you'll see sun even sooner in SLO.

 We just hired a new web programmer from Hanford who camped at El Chorro 
 last week. He said they have lots of primitive campsites that are 
 first-come-first-served, no reservations. He added that the $1 in quarters 
 gets you 10 minutes of hot shower water.It's a county park staffed by 
 county rangers who close up about 5pm.

 IF the Hostel were still an alternative I'll try to think of a place you 
 might be able to store bikes for the night but none come immediately to 
 mind. The Hostel is about 200 feet down a small hill from the train 
 station. Doug, bike parking appears to be in a rack along the Hostel 
 driveway entrance. I'll try to stop by after work and ask about bike 
 parking and maybe take pictures.

 If you're planning on riding toward the coast I'd recommend gloves, wool, 
 and some sort of beanie.

 There is much to do for everyone but little time ;) Cheers, Mitch




 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Manuel Acosta 
 manueljo...@hotmail.comwrote:

 Seems like we are having trouble with camping grounds.

 Here's my proposed idea. I don't know how a handful of folks feel about 
 it. BUT this could work out with some local knowledge around the area.

 We could all meet (via car or bike or train or spaceship) at a 
 designated spot. 

 Then we ride to a STEALH camping location good enough for a good group 
 of folks. Then ride Sunday Morning somewhere. 

 I don't know how big of a group we are having but if I'm sure we can get 
 a head count. 

 I try not to over think this things. We can worry about camp showers and 
 water but seriously it's just going to be a night. 

 Any thoughts?

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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-19 Thread Manuel Acosta
Any objections? If this is fine with everyone I'll make a separate post 
just for the official shindig. 





separate On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:48:47 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 Manny:

 Thanks for driving the stake.  I'll see you at El Chorro on Saturday 
 afternoon.  

 dougP

 On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:59:58 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Mike this helps a lot. thanks!
 So details so far.


 Date: July 27-28
 Location: El Chorro campgrounds 

 I'm planing on leaving early sometime Saturday. Hoping getting there 
 sometime in the afternoon.

 This okay with everyone?

 On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:41:50 PM UTC-7, Mitch Browne wrote:

 Manny,

 I've been mostly keeping out of this discussion but will offer my local 
 insight here.

 I work at Cuesta College, half-way between SLO and Morro Bay. It also 
 happens to be directly across Highway 1 from El Chorro campground.

 I ride to work most days and the campus is right at the Marine curtain 
 between inland and coast influences. From my house in SLO 8 miles away I 
 can never predict what the weather will be close to campus. It's a nice mix 
 of sunny 6:30 mornings or maybe misting fog. This morning it was foggy all 
 the way to the coast. yesterday it was sunny though foggy on the coast.

 Summer is foggy most days in Morro Bay. I like the fog for a few miles 
 but once I get wet and start to cool I appreciate sunshine. Your chances 
 are good that you will see fog most of the day and night at Morro Strand 
 campground. You're likely to see sun sometime in the morning at El Chorro. 
 Chance are you'll see sun even sooner in SLO.

 We just hired a new web programmer from Hanford who camped at El Chorro 
 last week. He said they have lots of primitive campsites that are 
 first-come-first-served, no reservations. He added that the $1 in quarters 
 gets you 10 minutes of hot shower water.It's a county park staffed by 
 county rangers who close up about 5pm.

 IF the Hostel were still an alternative I'll try to think of a place you 
 might be able to store bikes for the night but none come immediately to 
 mind. The Hostel is about 200 feet down a small hill from the train 
 station. Doug, bike parking appears to be in a rack along the Hostel 
 driveway entrance. I'll try to stop by after work and ask about bike 
 parking and maybe take pictures.

 If you're planning on riding toward the coast I'd recommend gloves, 
 wool, and some sort of beanie.

 There is much to do for everyone but little time ;) Cheers, Mitch




 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Manuel Acosta manueljo...@hotmail.com
  wrote:

 Seems like we are having trouble with camping grounds.

 Here's my proposed idea. I don't know how a handful of folks feel about 
 it. BUT this could work out with some local knowledge around the area.

 We could all meet (via car or bike or train or spaceship) at a 
 designated spot. 

 Then we ride to a STEALH camping location good enough for a good group 
 of folks. Then ride Sunday Morning somewhere. 

 I don't know how big of a group we are having but if I'm sure we can 
 get a head count. 

 I try not to over think this things. We can worry about camp showers 
 and water but seriously it's just going to be a night. 

 Any thoughts?

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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-18 Thread Manuel Acosta
Seems like we are having trouble with camping grounds.

Here's my proposed idea. I don't know how a handful of folks feel about it. 
BUT this could work out with some local knowledge around the area.

We could all meet (via car or bike or train or spaceship) at a designated 
spot. 

Then we ride to a STEALH camping location good enough for a good group of 
folks. Then ride Sunday Morning somewhere. 

I don't know how big of a group we are having but if I'm sure we can get a 
head count. 

I try not to over think this things. We can worry about camp showers and 
water but seriously it's just going to be a night. 

Any thoughts?

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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-18 Thread Mitch Browne
Manny,

I've been mostly keeping out of this discussion but will offer my local
insight here.

I work at Cuesta College, half-way between SLO and Morro Bay. It also
happens to be directly across Highway 1 from El Chorro campground.

I ride to work most days and the campus is right at the Marine curtain
between inland and coast influences. From my house in SLO 8 miles away I
can never predict what the weather will be close to campus. It's a nice mix
of sunny 6:30 mornings or maybe misting fog. This morning it was foggy all
the way to the coast. yesterday it was sunny though foggy on the coast.

Summer is foggy most days in Morro Bay. I like the fog for a few miles but
once I get wet and start to cool I appreciate sunshine. Your chances are
good that you will see fog most of the day and night at Morro Strand
campground. You're likely to see sun sometime in the morning at El Chorro.
Chance are you'll see sun even sooner in SLO.

We just hired a new web programmer from Hanford who camped at El Chorro
last week. He said they have lots of primitive campsites that are
first-come-first-served, no reservations. He added that the $1 in quarters
gets you 10 minutes of hot shower water.It's a county park staffed by
county rangers who close up about 5pm.

IF the Hostel were still an alternative I'll try to think of a place you
might be able to store bikes for the night but none come immediately to
mind. The Hostel is about 200 feet down a small hill from the train
station. Doug, bike parking appears to be in a rack along the Hostel
driveway entrance. I'll try to stop by after work and ask about bike
parking and maybe take pictures.

If you're planning on riding toward the coast I'd recommend gloves, wool,
and some sort of beanie.

There is much to do for everyone but little time ;) Cheers, Mitch




On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Manuel Acosta 
manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Seems like we are having trouble with camping grounds.

 Here's my proposed idea. I don't know how a handful of folks feel about
 it. BUT this could work out with some local knowledge around the area.

 We could all meet (via car or bike or train or spaceship) at a designated
 spot.

 Then we ride to a STEALH camping location good enough for a good group of
 folks. Then ride Sunday Morning somewhere.

 I don't know how big of a group we are having but if I'm sure we can get a
 head count.

 I try not to over think this things. We can worry about camp showers and
 water but seriously it's just going to be a night.

 Any thoughts?

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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-18 Thread Manuel Acosta
Mike this helps a lot. thanks!
So details so far.


Date: July 27-28
Location: El Chorro campgrounds 

I'm planing on leaving early sometime Saturday. Hoping getting there 
sometime in the afternoon.

This okay with everyone?

On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:41:50 PM UTC-7, Mitch Browne wrote:

 Manny,

 I've been mostly keeping out of this discussion but will offer my local 
 insight here.

 I work at Cuesta College, half-way between SLO and Morro Bay. It also 
 happens to be directly across Highway 1 from El Chorro campground.

 I ride to work most days and the campus is right at the Marine curtain 
 between inland and coast influences. From my house in SLO 8 miles away I 
 can never predict what the weather will be close to campus. It's a nice mix 
 of sunny 6:30 mornings or maybe misting fog. This morning it was foggy all 
 the way to the coast. yesterday it was sunny though foggy on the coast.

 Summer is foggy most days in Morro Bay. I like the fog for a few miles but 
 once I get wet and start to cool I appreciate sunshine. Your chances are 
 good that you will see fog most of the day and night at Morro Strand 
 campground. You're likely to see sun sometime in the morning at El Chorro. 
 Chance are you'll see sun even sooner in SLO.

 We just hired a new web programmer from Hanford who camped at El Chorro 
 last week. He said they have lots of primitive campsites that are 
 first-come-first-served, no reservations. He added that the $1 in quarters 
 gets you 10 minutes of hot shower water.It's a county park staffed by 
 county rangers who close up about 5pm.

 IF the Hostel were still an alternative I'll try to think of a place you 
 might be able to store bikes for the night but none come immediately to 
 mind. The Hostel is about 200 feet down a small hill from the train 
 station. Doug, bike parking appears to be in a rack along the Hostel 
 driveway entrance. I'll try to stop by after work and ask about bike 
 parking and maybe take pictures.

 If you're planning on riding toward the coast I'd recommend gloves, wool, 
 and some sort of beanie.

 There is much to do for everyone but little time ;) Cheers, Mitch




 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Manuel Acosta 
 manueljo...@hotmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Seems like we are having trouble with camping grounds.

 Here's my proposed idea. I don't know how a handful of folks feel about 
 it. BUT this could work out with some local knowledge around the area.

 We could all meet (via car or bike or train or spaceship) at a designated 
 spot. 

 Then we ride to a STEALH camping location good enough for a good group of 
 folks. Then ride Sunday Morning somewhere. 

 I don't know how big of a group we are having but if I'm sure we can get 
 a head count. 

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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-17 Thread oren
i will keep posted and as the camping location gets set in stone i will 
help with possible ride ideas. i know the county well and i may be able to 
offer great on-road/ off-road suggestions.

On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in 
 Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things 
 semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving 
 down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?


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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-17 Thread dougP
Oren:

That's great to hear.  Local knowledge trumps internet info every time.  I 
can live wherever we decide to land.  The inland campground at El Chorro 
sounded like better amenities but was remote while the beach one at Morro 
Strand lacked hot showers but was close to Morro Bay.  People should 
probably express a preference so we can settle that question.  

dougP

On Monday, June 17, 2013 3:35:20 PM UTC-7, oren wrote:

 i will keep posted and as the camping location gets set in stone i will 
 help with possible ride ideas. i know the county well and i may be able to 
 offer great on-road/ off-road suggestions.

 On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in 
 Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things 
 semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving 
 down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?



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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-17 Thread cyclotourist
FYI, the hostel had room for eight in the male dorm last I checked.

Cheers,
David



On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:36 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 Oren:

 That's great to hear.  Local knowledge trumps internet info every time.  I
 can live wherever we decide to land.  The inland campground at El Chorro
 sounded like better amenities but was remote while the beach one at Morro
 Strand lacked hot showers but was close to Morro Bay.  People should
 probably express a preference so we can settle that question.

 dougP


 On Monday, June 17, 2013 3:35:20 PM UTC-7, oren wrote:

 i will keep posted and as the camping location gets set in stone i will
 help with possible ride ideas. i know the county well and i may be able to
 offer great on-road/ off-road suggestions.

 On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in
 Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things
 semi more organized.
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving
 down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?

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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-17 Thread dougP
I assume the hostel can accommodate an equal number of women.  The unknown 
is bicycle security.  Bicycles are not allowed inside the building.  They 
claim to have an area outside that is safe.  Maybe one of our SLO riders 
could have a look  give a comment?  Address is 1617 Santa Rosa, a short 
walk from the train station.  

The hostel is an interesting option, especially for those only spending the 
weekend, and especially if your train arrives after dark or you want to 
catch an early AM return train.  It's definitely worth consideration.  

dougP

On Monday, June 17, 2013 7:55:22 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 FYI, the hostel had room for eight in the male dorm last I checked.

 Cheers,
 David



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 Oren:

 That's great to hear.  Local knowledge trumps internet info every time.  
 I can live wherever we decide to land.  The inland campground at El Chorro 
 sounded like better amenities but was remote while the beach one at Morro 
 Strand lacked hot showers but was close to Morro Bay.  People should 
 probably express a preference so we can settle that question.  

 dougP


 On Monday, June 17, 2013 3:35:20 PM UTC-7, oren wrote:

 i will keep posted and as the camping location gets set in stone i will 
 help with possible ride ideas. i know the county well and i may be able to 
 offer great on-road/ off-road suggestions.

 On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble 
 in Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things 
 semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind 
 driving down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?

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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-17 Thread cyclotourist
I like the hostel option, but don't know anything about this one. If it's
in town (yet not next to the rail line) that seems like a plus (Firestone,
Firestone, Firestone...). If there's any interest in that, maybe we can
find out if they can offer a group discount even. Although $25 a night aint
too bad.

Cheers,
David



On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:36 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 I assume the hostel can accommodate an equal number of women.  The unknown
 is bicycle security.  Bicycles are not allowed inside the building.  They
 claim to have an area outside that is safe.  Maybe one of our SLO riders
 could have a look  give a comment?  Address is 1617 Santa Rosa, a short
 walk from the train station.

 The hostel is an interesting option, especially for those only spending
 the weekend, and especially if your train arrives after dark or you want to
 catch an early AM return train.  It's definitely worth consideration.

 dougP


 On Monday, June 17, 2013 7:55:22 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 FYI, the hostel had room for eight in the male dorm last I checked.

 Cheers,
 David



 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:36 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote:

 Oren:

 That's great to hear.  Local knowledge trumps internet info every time.
 I can live wherever we decide to land.  The inland campground at El Chorro
 sounded like better amenities but was remote while the beach one at Morro
 Strand lacked hot showers but was close to Morro Bay.  People should
 probably express a preference so we can settle that question.

 dougP


 On Monday, June 17, 2013 3:35:20 PM UTC-7, oren wrote:

 i will keep posted and as the camping location gets set in stone i will
 help with possible ride ideas. i know the county well and i may be able to
 offer great on-road/ off-road suggestions.

 On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble
 in Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things
 semi more organized.
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind
 driving down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?

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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-16 Thread Manuel Acosta
Leaving Saturday for me.

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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-14 Thread Mike Schiller
which nights will you be down? Friday and Saturday night or just Saturday 
night?  And windswept beach or inland valley campground?

looks like at least 5 from SoCal are planning on being there.

~mike

On Thursday, June 13, 2013 10:48:12 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Lots of great talk. Lots of expectations.

 Dirt options look good. Before the route gets made up

 Lets decide on campgrounds. 

 There was a handful mention... 

 On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:10:29 PM UTC-7, Mitch Browne wrote:

 Doug,

 I caution you on accommodations.

 I believe most campgrounds will be in demand with limited reservations, 
 if any, with maybe some first come first served spots.

 El Chorro says on their website that arriving in the middle toward end of 
 the week is the best chance.

 I wouldn't count on camp ground hopping but then again you might get 
 lucky.

 Another thought is checking Craigslist and maybe getting a rental for a 
 few days, if you have enough people this may be economically workable.

 As you know there are many distances / possibilities. Out to the coast 
 and back could be anywhere from 30-40 miles. looping through Morro Bay to 
 Los Osos /  estuary up over Turri Road to Los Osos Valley Road (LOVR) back 
 toward SLO up O'Connor way through Camp San Luis / Cuesta College would be 
 manageable for many. 

 As mentioned my post that didn't post I am a daily work commuter. 16 
 miles round trip from SLO to Cuesta College and errands / shopping on 
 weekends puts me at a comfortable 90+ miles a week. I don't do much long 
 distance on the weekends so I don't know many of the local courses but 
 there's something for everyone.

 Mitch Browne
 San Luis Obispo, CA



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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-14 Thread allenmichael
I will be coming down from SF, late on Friday night. My vote is for a 
cooler windswept beach. I think the strand is reasonably close to the Taco 
Temple. Also wouldn't mind carpooling if someone else wants to drive down 
late on Friday from SF area.

Michael Allen

On Friday, June 14, 2013 7:52:24 AM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 which nights will you be down? Friday and Saturday night or just Saturday 
 night?  And windswept beach or inland valley campground?

 looks like at least 5 from SoCal are planning on being there.

 ~mike

 On Thursday, June 13, 2013 10:48:12 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Lots of great talk. Lots of expectations.

 Dirt options look good. Before the route gets made up

 Lets decide on campgrounds. 

 There was a handful mention... 

 On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:10:29 PM UTC-7, Mitch Browne wrote:

 Doug,

 I caution you on accommodations.

 I believe most campgrounds will be in demand with limited reservations, 
 if any, with maybe some first come first served spots.

 El Chorro says on their website that arriving in the middle toward end 
 of the week is the best chance.

 I wouldn't count on camp ground hopping but then again you might get 
 lucky.

 Another thought is checking Craigslist and maybe getting a rental for a 
 few days, if you have enough people this may be economically workable.

 As you know there are many distances / possibilities. Out to the coast 
 and back could be anywhere from 30-40 miles. looping through Morro Bay to 
 Los Osos /  estuary up over Turri Road to Los Osos Valley Road (LOVR) back 
 toward SLO up O'Connor way through Camp San Luis / Cuesta College would be 
 manageable for many. 

 As mentioned my post that didn't post I am a daily work commuter. 16 
 miles round trip from SLO to Cuesta College and errands / shopping on 
 weekends puts me at a comfortable 90+ miles a week. I don't do much long 
 distance on the weekends so I don't know many of the local courses but 
 there's something for everyone.

 Mitch Browne
 San Luis Obispo, CA



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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-14 Thread Mike Schiller
Just checked out the reviews on Taco Temple...  looks like we have a Friday 
night dinner spot. I'ts .6 miles from  Morro Strand Campground.

~mike

On Friday, June 14, 2013 2:31:22 PM UTC-7, allenmichael wrote:

 I will be coming down from SF, late on Friday night. My vote is for a 
 cooler windswept beach. I think the strand is reasonably close to the Taco 
 Temple. Also wouldn't mind carpooling if someone else wants to drive down 
 late on Friday from SF area.

 Michael Allen

 On Friday, June 14, 2013 7:52:24 AM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 which nights will you be down? Friday and Saturday night or just Saturday 
 night?  And windswept beach or inland valley campground?

 looks like at least 5 from SoCal are planning on being there.

 ~mike

 On Thursday, June 13, 2013 10:48:12 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Lots of great talk. Lots of expectations.

 Dirt options look good. Before the route gets made up

 Lets decide on campgrounds. 

 There was a handful mention... 

 On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:10:29 PM UTC-7, Mitch Browne wrote:

 Doug,

 I caution you on accommodations.

 I believe most campgrounds will be in demand with limited reservations, 
 if any, with maybe some first come first served spots.

 El Chorro says on their website that arriving in the middle toward end 
 of the week is the best chance.

 I wouldn't count on camp ground hopping but then again you might get 
 lucky.

 Another thought is checking Craigslist and maybe getting a rental for a 
 few days, if you have enough people this may be economically workable.

 As you know there are many distances / possibilities. Out to the coast 
 and back could be anywhere from 30-40 miles. looping through Morro Bay to 
 Los Osos /  estuary up over Turri Road to Los Osos Valley Road (LOVR) back 
 toward SLO up O'Connor way through Camp San Luis / Cuesta College would be 
 manageable for many. 

 As mentioned my post that didn't post I am a daily work commuter. 16 
 miles round trip from SLO to Cuesta College and errands / shopping on 
 weekends puts me at a comfortable 90+ miles a week. I don't do much long 
 distance on the weekends so I don't know many of the local courses but 
 there's something for everyone.

 Mitch Browne
 San Luis Obispo, CA



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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-14 Thread allenmichael
I'll be too late for Friday, but I would like a taco before heading home on 
Sunday.

On Friday, June 14, 2013 3:09:09 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 Just checked out the reviews on Taco Temple...  looks like we have a 
 Friday night dinner spot. I'ts .6 miles from  Morro Strand Campground.

 ~mike

 On Friday, June 14, 2013 2:31:22 PM UTC-7, allenmichael wrote:

 I will be coming down from SF, late on Friday night. My vote is for a 
 cooler windswept beach. I think the strand is reasonably close to the Taco 
 Temple. Also wouldn't mind carpooling if someone else wants to drive down 
 late on Friday from SF area.

 Michael Allen

 On Friday, June 14, 2013 7:52:24 AM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 which nights will you be down? Friday and Saturday night or just 
 Saturday night?  And windswept beach or inland valley campground?

 looks like at least 5 from SoCal are planning on being there.

 ~mike

 On Thursday, June 13, 2013 10:48:12 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Lots of great talk. Lots of expectations.

 Dirt options look good. Before the route gets made up

 Lets decide on campgrounds. 

 There was a handful mention... 

 On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:10:29 PM UTC-7, Mitch Browne wrote:

 Doug,

 I caution you on accommodations.

 I believe most campgrounds will be in demand with limited 
 reservations, if any, with maybe some first come first served spots.

 El Chorro says on their website that arriving in the middle toward end 
 of the week is the best chance.

 I wouldn't count on camp ground hopping but then again you might get 
 lucky.

 Another thought is checking Craigslist and maybe getting a rental for 
 a few days, if you have enough people this may be economically workable.

 As you know there are many distances / possibilities. Out to the coast 
 and back could be anywhere from 30-40 miles. looping through Morro Bay to 
 Los Osos /  estuary up over Turri Road to Los Osos Valley Road (LOVR) 
 back 
 toward SLO up O'Connor way through Camp San Luis / Cuesta College would 
 be 
 manageable for many. 

 As mentioned my post that didn't post I am a daily work commuter. 16 
 miles round trip from SLO to Cuesta College and errands / shopping on 
 weekends puts me at a comfortable 90+ miles a week. I don't do much long 
 distance on the weekends so I don't know many of the local courses but 
 there's something for everyone.

 Mitch Browne
 San Luis Obispo, CA



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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-14 Thread Hugh Smitham
Mike,

Have you made a reservation for Morro Strand Camp?

-Hugh
On Jun 14, 2013 3:09 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote:

 Just checked out the reviews on Taco Temple...  looks like we have a
 Friday night dinner spot. I'ts .6 miles from  Morro Strand Campground.

 ~mike

 On Friday, June 14, 2013 2:31:22 PM UTC-7, allenmichael wrote:

 I will be coming down from SF, late on Friday night. My vote is for a
 cooler windswept beach. I think the strand is reasonably close to the Taco
 Temple. Also wouldn't mind carpooling if someone else wants to drive down
 late on Friday from SF area.

 Michael Allen

 On Friday, June 14, 2013 7:52:24 AM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 which nights will you be down? Friday and Saturday night or just
 Saturday night?  And windswept beach or inland valley campground?

 looks like at least 5 from SoCal are planning on being there.

 ~mike

 On Thursday, June 13, 2013 10:48:12 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Lots of great talk. Lots of expectations.

 Dirt options look good. Before the route gets made up

 Lets decide on campgrounds.

 There was a handful mention...

 On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:10:29 PM UTC-7, Mitch Browne wrote:

 Doug,

 I caution you on accommodations.

 I believe most campgrounds will be in demand with limited
 reservations, if any, with maybe some first come first served spots.

 El Chorro says on their website that arriving in the middle toward end
 of the week is the best chance.

 I wouldn't count on camp ground hopping but then again you might get
 lucky.

 Another thought is checking Craigslist and maybe getting a rental for
 a few days, if you have enough people this may be economically workable.

 As you know there are many distances / possibilities. Out to the coast
 and back could be anywhere from 30-40 miles. looping through Morro Bay to
 Los Osos /  estuary up over Turri Road to Los Osos Valley Road (LOVR) back
 toward SLO up O'Connor way through Camp San Luis / Cuesta College would be
 manageable for many.

 As mentioned my post that didn't post I am a daily work commuter. 16
 miles round trip from SLO to Cuesta College and errands / shopping on
 weekends puts me at a comfortable 90+ miles a week. I don't do much long
 distance on the weekends so I don't know many of the local courses but
 there's something for everyone.

 Mitch Browne
 San Luis Obispo, CA

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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-13 Thread Manuel Acosta
Lots of great talk. Lots of expectations.

Dirt options look good. Before the route gets made up

Lets decide on campgrounds. 

There was a handful mention... 

On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:10:29 PM UTC-7, Mitch Browne wrote:

 Doug,

 I caution you on accommodations.

 I believe most campgrounds will be in demand with limited reservations, if 
 any, with maybe some first come first served spots.

 El Chorro says on their website that arriving in the middle toward end of 
 the week is the best chance.

 I wouldn't count on camp ground hopping but then again you might get lucky.

 Another thought is checking Craigslist and maybe getting a rental for a 
 few days, if you have enough people this may be economically workable.

 As you know there are many distances / possibilities. Out to the coast and 
 back could be anywhere from 30-40 miles. looping through Morro Bay to Los 
 Osos /  estuary up over Turri Road to Los Osos Valley Road (LOVR) back 
 toward SLO up O'Connor way through Camp San Luis / Cuesta College would be 
 manageable for many. 

 As mentioned my post that didn't post I am a daily work commuter. 16 miles 
 round trip from SLO to Cuesta College and errands / shopping on weekends 
 puts me at a comfortable 90+ miles a week. I don't do much long distance on 
 the weekends so I don't know many of the local courses but there's 
 something for everyone.

 Mitch Browne
 San Luis Obispo, CA


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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-12 Thread Hugh Smitham
 I was hoping for the Sierra's and of course will go with the
consensuses as SLO is a good second. Considering coming up Friday. I
have requested Sunday the 29th off so we'll see how that shapes up.

~Hugh
Hugh
Sunland, Ca


On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Mike Schiller
mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 So what kind of timetable are people planning? Arrive on Friday night or
 Saturday Morning?   Trying to figure out if someone should reserve a
 campsite for Friday night.

 I'm planning on arriving on the 100pm Surfliner  on Friday from LA. There is
 also one that arrives from LA @ 830pm.

 The Coast Starlight arrives at 320pm from SF.

 There is a hostel near the train station  in SLO, but bike parking is
 outside.

 it's 16 miles to Morro Bay from the Amtrak Station if we stay there.

 ~mike


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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-12 Thread Mitch Browne
I live local and have been attempting to post but posts are automatically 
deleting. Jim is trying to help but nothing obvious is going on. So. This 
is a test post.

Mike there aren't any stores very close to any of the discussed camp sites. 
El Chorro stores are about 4 miles next to CalPoly and the intersection of 
Foothill and Santa Rosa (Highway 1). Albertsons grocery, Starbucks, Panda 
Express, Pita Pit, Carl's, BBQ etc. I should note there's one small hill 
that takes about 2 minutes at 24t + 32t gearing between the campsite and 
town.

I think your biggest concern will be nailing down a reservation in the 
popular tourist area.

Mitch Browne
San Luis Obispo

On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in 
 Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things 
 semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving 
 down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?


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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-12 Thread Mike Schiller
Thanks Mitch. You might try a different browser. I had the same issue until 
I switched to Google Chrome.

I didn't think there were any stores near Cuesta, seems kinda odd with the 
school there.  I'm very familiar with that shopping area as my daughters 
both lived very near there while attending Cal Poly. 

*I agree with you on the reservations need . I need to get some input from 
others if they will be there Friday night or Saturday morning.*
*
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~mike


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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-12 Thread dougP
Mike:

I like your idea.  I'll plan to be there Friday afternoon as well.  Are we 
considering hiker-biker at Morro Bay or getting a reservation at Morro 
Strand?  Or other location?  

Related topic:  I plan to hang around the area a while longer (or maybe 
come up earlier)  check out some new-to-me routes.  Let me know if you 
want to spend a bit more time around the area.  Maybe change campgrounds 
just for fun.  

dougP

On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 9:30:22 AM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 Thanks Mitch. You might try a different browser. I had the same issue 
 until I switched to Google Chrome.

 I didn't think there were any stores near Cuesta, seems kinda odd with the 
 school there.  I'm very familiar with that shopping area as my daughters 
 both lived very near there while attending Cal Poly. 

 *I agree with you on the reservations need . I need to get some input 
 from others if they will be there Friday night or Saturday morning.*
 *
 *
 ~mike




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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-12 Thread Mitch Browne
Doug,

I caution you on accommodations.

I believe most campgrounds will be in demand with limited reservations, if 
any, with maybe some first come first served spots.

El Chorro says on their website that arriving in the middle toward end of 
the week is the best chance.

I wouldn't count on camp ground hopping but then again you might get lucky.

Another thought is checking Craigslist and maybe getting a rental for a few 
days, if you have enough people this may be economically workable.

As you know there are many distances / possibilities. Out to the coast and 
back could be anywhere from 30-40 miles. looping through Morro Bay to Los 
Osos /  estuary up over Turri Road to Los Osos Valley Road (LOVR) back 
toward SLO up O'Connor way through Camp San Luis / Cuesta College would be 
manageable for many. 

As mentioned my post that didn't post I am a daily work commuter. 16 miles 
round trip from SLO to Cuesta College and errands / shopping on weekends 
puts me at a comfortable 90+ miles a week. I don't do much long distance on 
the weekends so I don't know many of the local courses but there's 
something for everyone.

Mitch Browne
San Luis Obispo, CA

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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-12 Thread dougP
Manny:

I feel a bit like Mike  I have hijacked your thread.  Not intentionally; I 
just got excited by the whole idea.  

What are your thoughts on camping vs lodging, and some of the sites that 
have been tossed out?  Other than Morro Bay  San Simeon, all I know about 
the other places is what I've seen on the internet.  

dougP

On Friday, June 7, 2013 11:48:51 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 So date seems set.

 *July 27-28 For the Rivendell Ramble Rumble (California Edition)*

 Now lets agree on a place where we can meet.

 Lets worry about route and places to sleep afterwords. If we can all agree 
 on a central place then those things will fall into place.
 Not like any of those things are super important.. We can make those 
 things up as we go!




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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-11 Thread cyclotourist
I think I can pull off the 27-28th. Will need some good planning on my part
though, as the calendar is pretty filled up.

Cheers,
David



On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:

 Mitch from SLO ( Atlantis owner) emailed me some info about El Chorro
 County park, which is on the road between SLO and Morro Bay. There is
 camping there and they have showers.
 http://www.slocounty.ca.gov/Page11103.aspx  This looks like another
 option.   I don't know if there are any food options nearby, so not
 optimal, but could work.

 Still looking for routes. Like to have some backcountry roads with some
 dirt thrown in.  The See Canyon/Prefuma rd has a fairly long climb with a
 dirt section.
 http://www.lkjh.org/bike/california/slo/see/index.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-11 Thread René Sterental
Looking tough for me, but I'll see if I can pull it off. 


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On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:00 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I think I can pull off the 27-28th. Will need some good planning on my part
 though, as the calendar is pretty filled up.
 Cheers,
 David
 On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Mike Schiller 
 mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:
 Mitch from SLO ( Atlantis owner) emailed me some info about El Chorro
 County park, which is on the road between SLO and Morro Bay. There is
 camping there and they have showers.
 http://www.slocounty.ca.gov/Page11103.aspx  This looks like another
 option.   I don't know if there are any food options nearby, so not
 optimal, but could work.

 Still looking for routes. Like to have some backcountry roads with some
 dirt thrown in.  The See Canyon/Prefuma rd has a fairly long climb with a
 dirt section.
 http://www.lkjh.org/bike/california/slo/see/index.html

 ~mike


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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-11 Thread dougP
Have a look at these routes:

http://mountainbikeslocounty.com/

One of the great features of this area is a lot of back roads that are 
lightly traveled and go thru scenic areas.  While there's plenty of 
interesting un-paved stuff to choose from, even the paved bits getting 
there are pretty nice.  

The suggestion of Old Stagecoach up to Towers is excellent.  This is the 
ridgeline between Oso Valley and the valley where Paso  Atascadero are.  
One possible return is down Poly Canyon into the university.  I continued 
on the ridgeline to Hwy 41  on to Morro Bay.  This requires crossing a 
not-for-the-faint-of-heart rock slide (David, you ARE doing this!).  Total 
loop is roughly 40 odd miles, give or take.  

I've done See Cyn from both sides  suggest coming from the Avila Beach 
end.  The climb is more shaded  more interesting, and you do the dirt on 
the way up.  Toward the end it ramps up steeply just before the summit, so 
you sort of pop out on top and have this amazing view of Morro Rock to 
one side and the Oso Valley to the other.  You then get to enjoy a 
screaming downhill on pavement with decent sitelines, etc.  

Mitch's comments have encountered some interweb interference, so if they 
don't pop up shortly I'll just copy  paste them, with appropriate 
attribution of course.  You can't beat local knowledge.

dougP

On Monday, June 10, 2013 8:06:18 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 Mitch from SLO ( Atlantis owner) emailed me some info about El Chorro 
 County park, which is on the road between SLO and Morro Bay. There is 
 camping there and they have showers. 
 http://www.slocounty.ca.gov/Page11103.aspx  This looks like another 
 option.   I don't know if there are any food options nearby, so not 
 optimal, but could work.   

 Still looking for routes. Like to have some backcountry roads with some 
 dirt thrown in.  The See Canyon/Prefuma rd has a fairly long climb with a 
 dirt section. 
 http://www.lkjh.org/bike/california/slo/see/index.html

 ~mike




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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-11 Thread Mike Schiller
So what kind of timetable are people planning? Arrive on Friday night or 
Saturday Morning?   Trying to figure out if someone should reserve a 
campsite for Friday night.  

I'm planning on arriving on the 100pm Surfliner  on Friday from LA. There 
is also one that arrives from LA @ 830pm. 

The Coast Starlight arrives at 320pm from SF. 

There is a hostel near the train station  in SLO, but bike parking is 
outside. 

it's 16 miles to Morro Bay from the Amtrak Station if we stay there. 

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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-10 Thread oren
i live in SLO. all stated above are great ideas. another suggestion for the 
camping would be biddle co park. i believe there is camping there. it isnt 
too inland (not incredibly hot). it is out edna valley area so therefor it 
is close to the train station and it is an absolutely beautiful bike ride. 
there is also camping very near by at lopez lake.

On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in 
 Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things 
 semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving 
 down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?


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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-10 Thread Mitch Browne
Hi All,

I live in San Luis Obispo. (SLO) I met DougP and his wife when they visited 
some months back.

There are several Rivs in town though I'm most familiar with the Atlantis 
crowd (me, George, and Hank).

For perspective I'm mostly a work / commuter rider. I ride 16 miles RT from 
SLO to Cuesta College (halfway between SLO and Morro Bay) most days and 
shopping / get around on weekends. This gives me the 90+ miles / week I 
enjoy.

I should mention that the coast can be very over cast in summers and that 
the prevailing wind is Nortwest and can be real work in the afternoons. One 
other camp ground option is El Chorro Regional Park 
http://www.slocountyparks.com/activities/el_chorro.htm This is 7 miles from 
the train station / town and at the edge of the marine influence. There is 
also a Hostel a block from the train station but I've never stayed there 
though it's been a going enterprise for years.

http://www.hostelobispo.com/

In an earlier post some mentioned our weather. I should comment that it's 
fairly unique in that SLO is a Mediterranean climate mostly in the mid 70's 
- low 80's in the summer. Contrast this with 15 miles away up the Cuesta 
Grade on the other side of the Santa Lucia range the temperature is 
generally in the 90's to low 100's consistently in the summer. A 30 degree 
difference is those few miles is common and makes biking in the Paso Robles 
area much less comfortable.

This is also the beginning of tourist season. The town empties of students 
and fills with visitors though it's mostly confined to the downtown core. I 
imagine there's a premium on hotel rooms and camping spots.

Although it's not likely I'll be joining you on rides, minor surgery in the 
works, I'm happy to share what I know.

Mitch Browne
San Luis Obispo, CA

On Sunday, June 9, 2013 10:09:59 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Morro bay sounds good how's our dirt options? Would had to drive all that 
 way just to ride more road. 

 On Sunday, June 9, 2013 8:36:48 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 Morro Strand is north of the main business area. Right on the ocean north 
 of the big rock( Morro) .  

 I'm probably going to ride the Surfliner up on Friday. Depending on when 
 others are arriving I'll probably stay at Morro Bay SP hiker/biker that 
 night.
 Thinking about riding back down to Ventura on Monday-Tuesday. 

 ~mike


 On Sunday, June 9, 2013 11:50:38 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 Hiker biker at Moro Bay may work.  The town of Moro Bay is pretty 
 casual.  Drivers could park in town  ride to the campground.  It's right 
 next to the town.  

 Moro Strand is intriguing if the above won't work.  I didn't know about 
 it  must have ridden by many times.  At San Simeon the hiker biker sites 
 are next to the highway.  As Anne pointed out, San Simeon is pretty small, 
 with limited services.  

 dougP

 On Saturday, June 8, 2013 2:09:36 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 If we want to reserve a regular site we are too late to get a good 
 campground with showers. The best ones...Morro Bay and Pismo SP's are 
 booked that weekend. 
 Morro Strand is open but no showers or and few trees for shade.  San 
 Simeon has only the primitive section open ( no showers) .  We could do 
 the 
 hiker/biker sites for the train travelers but that wouldn't work for those 
 that drive there.

 The best of the leftovers to me is Morro Strand SP. Flush toilets, 
 closer to a decent size town, and not to far from the train station in SLO.

 any other ideas?  The Motel 6's ( two of them) are 5 miles south of SLO 
 and charge $106/n. The south one is better BTW. 

 ~mike

 On Saturday, June 8, 2013 1:36:04 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 As I recall, there are a couple of restaurants in San Simeon, but it's 
 not a very big town. Hearst Castle is amazing to visit if you've never 
 been there.  I've camped at San Simeon, Oceano and Morro Bay; as I 
 recall, Morro Bay was the nicest. 

 I also recall once, a long long time ago, riding north from Morro Bay 
 up Big Sur. Beautiful, but very very strong headwinds. That was in the 
 spring; the summer has smaller winds I think. 

 On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote: 
  Looks like we've got an event!  Now, a key driver of location: 
  
  Camping?  Morro Bay SP is adjacent to town with all the attendant 
 services. 
  San Simeon SP is a couple of miles north of San Simeon  several 
 miles north 
  of Cambria.  Oceano Dunes is adjacent to Pismo  Arroyo Grande, 
 about 10 
  miles south of SLO.  Area has a mix of lodging as well. 
  
  Lodging?  SLO is a natural, with tons of places.  Cambria is right 
 on the 
  coast BUT you have to snag a decent rate catch a deal well in 
 advance or 
  take your chances on day of.  Moro Bay also has lodging so if it's 
 a mix 
  of campers  lodgers that may be preferable. 
  
  Personally I favor camping within walking distance of a restaurant 
 (not 
  being much of a cook).  What do others prefer? 
  
  dougP 
  
  On Friday, 

[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-10 Thread Jeremy Till
Damn.  Leave for the east coast from OAK early that Monday and probably 
have to work on Saturday, so I think the Rumble is a no go for me.  Oh 
well, I'll look forward to pictures!

On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in 
 Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things 
 semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving 
 down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?


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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-10 Thread Mike Schiller
Hi Oren, Seems like they are a little closer from the train station than 
Morro  Bay and the Edna Valley is a very nice place to ride. .But does 
Biddle allow camping?  All I see is day use.  Lopez is nice but  pretty hot 
on some days if I recall as it is about 12 miles inland.

I guess we need to decide where to camp. 

and do you have any suggestions on mixed surface rides?  

~mike





  



On Sunday, June 9, 2013 5:50:48 PM UTC-7, oren wrote:

 i live in SLO. all stated above are great ideas. another suggestion for 
 the camping would be biddle co park. i believe there is camping there. it 
 isnt too inland (not incredibly hot). it is out edna valley area so 
 therefor it is close to the train station and it is an absolutely beautiful 
 bike ride. there is also camping very near by at lopez lake.

 On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in 
 Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things 
 semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving 
 down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?



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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-10 Thread Mitch Browne
Hi All,

I live in San Luis Obispo. (SLO) I met DougP and his wife when they visited 
some months back.

There are several Rivs in town though I'm most familiar with the Atlantis 
crowd (me, George, and Hank).

For perspective I'm mostly a work / commuter rider. I ride 16 miles RT from 
SLO to Cuesta College (halfway between SLO and Morro Bay) most days and 
shopping / get around on weekends. This gives me the 90+ miles / week I 
enjoy.

I should mention that the coast can be very over cast in summers and that 
the prevailing wind is Nortwest and can be real work in the afternoons. One 
other camp ground option is El Chorro Regional Park 
http://www.slocountyparks.com/activities/el_chorro.htm This is 7 miles from 
the train station / town and at the edge of the marine influence. There is 
also a Hostel a block from the train station but I've never stayed there 
though it's been a going enterprise for years.

http://www.hostelobispo.com/

In an earlier post some mentioned our weather. I should comment that it's 
fairly unique in that SLO is a Mediterranean climate mostly in the mid 70's 
- low 80's in the summer. Contrast this with 15 miles away up the Cuesta 
Grade on the other side of the Santa Lucia range the temperature is 
generally in the 90's to low 100's consistently in the summer. A 30 degree 
difference is those few miles is common and makes biking in the Paso Robles 
area much less comfortable.

This is also the beginning of tourist season. The town empties of students 
and fills with visitors though it's mostly confined to the downtown core. I 
imagine there's a premium on hotel rooms and camping spots.

Although it's not likely I'll be joining you on rides, minor surgery in the 
works, I'm happy to share what I know.

Mike it's true that Lopez is inland, more remote, and warmer. I too believe 
Biddle is day camping only.

There are many options around SLO. Out to the coast and back, See Canyon 
for climbing, it depends on how much time and energy you want to spend in 
the saddle.

Mitch Browne
San Luis Obispo, CA

On Monday, June 10, 2013 3:32:18 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 Hi Oren, Seems like they are a little closer from the train station than 
 Morro  Bay and the Edna Valley is a very nice place to ride. .But does 
 Biddle allow camping?  All I see is day use.  Lopez is nice but  pretty hot 
 on some days if I recall as it is about 12 miles inland.

 I guess we need to decide where to camp. 

 and do you have any suggestions on mixed surface rides?  

 ~mike





   



 On Sunday, June 9, 2013 5:50:48 PM UTC-7, oren wrote:

 i live in SLO. all stated above are great ideas. another suggestion for 
 the camping would be biddle co park. i believe there is camping there. it 
 isnt too inland (not incredibly hot). it is out edna valley area so 
 therefor it is close to the train station and it is an absolutely beautiful 
 bike ride. there is also camping very near by at lopez lake.

 On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in 
 Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things 
 semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving 
 down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?



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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-10 Thread Mike Schiller
Mitch from SLO ( Atlantis owner) emailed me some info about El Chorro 
County park, which is on the road between SLO and Morro Bay. There is 
camping there and they have showers. 
http://www.slocounty.ca.gov/Page11103.aspx  This looks like another option. 
  I don't know if there are any food options nearby, so not optimal, but 
could work.   

Still looking for routes. Like to have some backcountry roads with some 
dirt thrown in.  The See Canyon/Prefuma rd has a fairly long climb with a 
dirt section. 
http://www.lkjh.org/bike/california/slo/see/index.html

~mike


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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-09 Thread dougP
Hiker biker at Moro Bay may work.  The town of Moro Bay is pretty casual.  
Drivers could park in town  ride to the campground.  It's right next to 
the town.  

Moro Strand is intriguing if the above won't work.  I didn't know about it 
 must have ridden by many times.  At San Simeon the hiker biker sites are 
next to the highway.  As Anne pointed out, San Simeon is pretty small, with 
limited services.  

dougP

On Saturday, June 8, 2013 2:09:36 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 If we want to reserve a regular site we are too late to get a good 
 campground with showers. The best ones...Morro Bay and Pismo SP's are 
 booked that weekend. 
 Morro Strand is open but no showers or and few trees for shade.  San 
 Simeon has only the primitive section open ( no showers) .  We could do the 
 hiker/biker sites for the train travelers but that wouldn't work for those 
 that drive there.

 The best of the leftovers to me is Morro Strand SP. Flush toilets, closer 
 to a decent size town, and not to far from the train station in SLO.

 any other ideas?  The Motel 6's ( two of them) are 5 miles south of SLO 
 and charge $106/n. The south one is better BTW. 

 ~mike

 On Saturday, June 8, 2013 1:36:04 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 As I recall, there are a couple of restaurants in San Simeon, but it's 
 not a very big town. Hearst Castle is amazing to visit if you've never 
 been there.  I've camped at San Simeon, Oceano and Morro Bay; as I 
 recall, Morro Bay was the nicest. 

 I also recall once, a long long time ago, riding north from Morro Bay 
 up Big Sur. Beautiful, but very very strong headwinds. That was in the 
 spring; the summer has smaller winds I think. 

 On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote: 
  Looks like we've got an event!  Now, a key driver of location: 
  
  Camping?  Morro Bay SP is adjacent to town with all the attendant 
 services. 
  San Simeon SP is a couple of miles north of San Simeon  several miles 
 north 
  of Cambria.  Oceano Dunes is adjacent to Pismo  Arroyo Grande, about 
 10 
  miles south of SLO.  Area has a mix of lodging as well. 
  
  Lodging?  SLO is a natural, with tons of places.  Cambria is right on 
 the 
  coast BUT you have to snag a decent rate catch a deal well in advance 
 or 
  take your chances on day of.  Moro Bay also has lodging so if it's a 
 mix 
  of campers  lodgers that may be preferable. 
  
  Personally I favor camping within walking distance of a restaurant (not 
  being much of a cook).  What do others prefer? 
  
  dougP 
  
  On Friday, June 7, 2013 11:48:51 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: 
  
  So date seems set. 
  
  July 27-28 For the Rivendell Ramble Rumble (California Edition) 
  
  Now lets agree on a place where we can meet. 
  
  Lets worry about route and places to sleep afterwords. If we can all 
 agree 
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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-09 Thread Mike Schiller
Morro Strand is north of the main business area. Right on the ocean north 
of the big rock( Morro) .  

I'm probably going to ride the Surfliner up on Friday. Depending on when 
others are arriving I'll probably stay at Morro Bay SP hiker/biker that 
night.
Thinking about riding back down to Ventura on Monday-Tuesday. 

~mike


On Sunday, June 9, 2013 11:50:38 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 Hiker biker at Moro Bay may work.  The town of Moro Bay is pretty casual.  
 Drivers could park in town  ride to the campground.  It's right next to 
 the town.  

 Moro Strand is intriguing if the above won't work.  I didn't know about it 
  must have ridden by many times.  At San Simeon the hiker biker sites are 
 next to the highway.  As Anne pointed out, San Simeon is pretty small, with 
 limited services.  

 dougP

 On Saturday, June 8, 2013 2:09:36 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 If we want to reserve a regular site we are too late to get a good 
 campground with showers. The best ones...Morro Bay and Pismo SP's are 
 booked that weekend. 
 Morro Strand is open but no showers or and few trees for shade.  San 
 Simeon has only the primitive section open ( no showers) .  We could do the 
 hiker/biker sites for the train travelers but that wouldn't work for those 
 that drive there.

 The best of the leftovers to me is Morro Strand SP. Flush toilets, closer 
 to a decent size town, and not to far from the train station in SLO.

 any other ideas?  The Motel 6's ( two of them) are 5 miles south of SLO 
 and charge $106/n. The south one is better BTW. 

 ~mike

 On Saturday, June 8, 2013 1:36:04 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 As I recall, there are a couple of restaurants in San Simeon, but it's 
 not a very big town. Hearst Castle is amazing to visit if you've never 
 been there.  I've camped at San Simeon, Oceano and Morro Bay; as I 
 recall, Morro Bay was the nicest. 

 I also recall once, a long long time ago, riding north from Morro Bay 
 up Big Sur. Beautiful, but very very strong headwinds. That was in the 
 spring; the summer has smaller winds I think. 

 On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote: 
  Looks like we've got an event!  Now, a key driver of location: 
  
  Camping?  Morro Bay SP is adjacent to town with all the attendant 
 services. 
  San Simeon SP is a couple of miles north of San Simeon  several miles 
 north 
  of Cambria.  Oceano Dunes is adjacent to Pismo  Arroyo Grande, about 
 10 
  miles south of SLO.  Area has a mix of lodging as well. 
  
  Lodging?  SLO is a natural, with tons of places.  Cambria is right on 
 the 
  coast BUT you have to snag a decent rate catch a deal well in advance 
 or 
  take your chances on day of.  Moro Bay also has lodging so if it's a 
 mix 
  of campers  lodgers that may be preferable. 
  
  Personally I favor camping within walking distance of a restaurant 
 (not 
  being much of a cook).  What do others prefer? 
  
  dougP 
  
  On Friday, June 7, 2013 11:48:51 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: 
  
  So date seems set. 
  
  July 27-28 For the Rivendell Ramble Rumble (California Edition) 
  
  Now lets agree on a place where we can meet. 
  
  Lets worry about route and places to sleep afterwords. If we can all 
 agree 
  on a central place then those things will fall into place. 
  Not like any of those things are super important.. We can make 
 those 
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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-09 Thread Manuel Acosta
Morro bay sounds good how's our dirt options? Would had to drive all that 
way just to ride more road. 

On Sunday, June 9, 2013 8:36:48 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 Morro Strand is north of the main business area. Right on the ocean north 
 of the big rock( Morro) .  

 I'm probably going to ride the Surfliner up on Friday. Depending on when 
 others are arriving I'll probably stay at Morro Bay SP hiker/biker that 
 night.
 Thinking about riding back down to Ventura on Monday-Tuesday. 

 ~mike


 On Sunday, June 9, 2013 11:50:38 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 Hiker biker at Moro Bay may work.  The town of Moro Bay is pretty 
 casual.  Drivers could park in town  ride to the campground.  It's right 
 next to the town.  

 Moro Strand is intriguing if the above won't work.  I didn't know about 
 it  must have ridden by many times.  At San Simeon the hiker biker sites 
 are next to the highway.  As Anne pointed out, San Simeon is pretty small, 
 with limited services.  

 dougP

 On Saturday, June 8, 2013 2:09:36 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 If we want to reserve a regular site we are too late to get a good 
 campground with showers. The best ones...Morro Bay and Pismo SP's are 
 booked that weekend. 
 Morro Strand is open but no showers or and few trees for shade.  San 
 Simeon has only the primitive section open ( no showers) .  We could do the 
 hiker/biker sites for the train travelers but that wouldn't work for those 
 that drive there.

 The best of the leftovers to me is Morro Strand SP. Flush toilets, 
 closer to a decent size town, and not to far from the train station in SLO.

 any other ideas?  The Motel 6's ( two of them) are 5 miles south of SLO 
 and charge $106/n. The south one is better BTW. 

 ~mike

 On Saturday, June 8, 2013 1:36:04 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 As I recall, there are a couple of restaurants in San Simeon, but it's 
 not a very big town. Hearst Castle is amazing to visit if you've never 
 been there.  I've camped at San Simeon, Oceano and Morro Bay; as I 
 recall, Morro Bay was the nicest. 

 I also recall once, a long long time ago, riding north from Morro Bay 
 up Big Sur. Beautiful, but very very strong headwinds. That was in the 
 spring; the summer has smaller winds I think. 

 On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote: 
  Looks like we've got an event!  Now, a key driver of location: 
  
  Camping?  Morro Bay SP is adjacent to town with all the attendant 
 services. 
  San Simeon SP is a couple of miles north of San Simeon  several 
 miles north 
  of Cambria.  Oceano Dunes is adjacent to Pismo  Arroyo Grande, about 
 10 
  miles south of SLO.  Area has a mix of lodging as well. 
  
  Lodging?  SLO is a natural, with tons of places.  Cambria is right on 
 the 
  coast BUT you have to snag a decent rate catch a deal well in advance 
 or 
  take your chances on day of.  Moro Bay also has lodging so if it's 
 a mix 
  of campers  lodgers that may be preferable. 
  
  Personally I favor camping within walking distance of a restaurant 
 (not 
  being much of a cook).  What do others prefer? 
  
  dougP 
  
  On Friday, June 7, 2013 11:48:51 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: 
  
  So date seems set. 
  
  July 27-28 For the Rivendell Ramble Rumble (California Edition) 
  
  Now lets agree on a place where we can meet. 
  
  Lets worry about route and places to sleep afterwords. If we can all 
 agree 
  on a central place then those things will fall into place. 
  Not like any of those things are super important.. We can make 
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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-08 Thread Manuel Acosta
So date seems set.

*July 27-28 For the Rivendell Ramble Rumble (California Edition)*

Now lets agree on a place where we can meet.

Lets worry about route and places to sleep afterwords. If we can all agree 
on a central place then those things will fall into place.
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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-08 Thread Esteban
Let the wild rumpus start!

http://vimeo.com/19843769

On Friday, June 7, 2013 11:48:51 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 So date seems set.

 *July 27-28 For the Rivendell Ramble Rumble (California Edition)*

 Now lets agree on a place where we can meet.

 Lets worry about route and places to sleep afterwords. If we can all agree 
 on a central place then those things will fall into place.
 Not like any of those things are super important.. We can make those 
 things up as we go!




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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-08 Thread Hugh Smitham
Too bad they didn't show the NorCalers on Steel bikes and SoCalers
driving low riders doing battle :-)


Hugh
Sunland, Ca


On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
 Let the wild rumpus start!

 http://vimeo.com/19843769


 On Friday, June 7, 2013 11:48:51 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 So date seems set.

 July 27-28 For the Rivendell Ramble Rumble (California Edition)

 Now lets agree on a place where we can meet.

 Lets worry about route and places to sleep afterwords. If we can all agree
 on a central place then those things will fall into place.
 Not like any of those things are super important.. We can make those
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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-08 Thread dougP
Looks like we've got an event!  Now, a key driver of location:

Camping?  Morro Bay SP is adjacent to town with all the attendant 
services.  San Simeon SP is a couple of miles north of San Simeon  several 
miles north of Cambria.  Oceano Dunes is adjacent to Pismo  Arroyo Grande, 
about 10 miles south of SLO.  Area has a mix of lodging as well.  

Lodging?  SLO is a natural, with tons of places.  Cambria is right on the 
coast BUT you have to snag a decent rate catch a deal well in advance or 
take your chances on day of.  Moro Bay also has lodging so if it's a mix 
of campers  lodgers that may be preferable.

Personally I favor camping within walking distance of a restaurant (not 
being much of a cook).  What do others prefer?

dougP  

On Friday, June 7, 2013 11:48:51 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 So date seems set.

 *July 27-28 For the Rivendell Ramble Rumble (California Edition)*

 Now lets agree on a place where we can meet.

 Lets worry about route and places to sleep afterwords. If we can all agree 
 on a central place then those things will fall into place.
 Not like any of those things are super important.. We can make those 
 things up as we go!




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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-08 Thread Anne Paulson
As I recall, there are a couple of restaurants in San Simeon, but it's
not a very big town. Hearst Castle is amazing to visit if you've never
been there.  I've camped at San Simeon, Oceano and Morro Bay; as I
recall, Morro Bay was the nicest.

I also recall once, a long long time ago, riding north from Morro Bay
up Big Sur. Beautiful, but very very strong headwinds. That was in the
spring; the summer has smaller winds I think.

On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
 Looks like we've got an event!  Now, a key driver of location:

 Camping?  Morro Bay SP is adjacent to town with all the attendant services.
 San Simeon SP is a couple of miles north of San Simeon  several miles north
 of Cambria.  Oceano Dunes is adjacent to Pismo  Arroyo Grande, about 10
 miles south of SLO.  Area has a mix of lodging as well.

 Lodging?  SLO is a natural, with tons of places.  Cambria is right on the
 coast BUT you have to snag a decent rate catch a deal well in advance or
 take your chances on day of.  Moro Bay also has lodging so if it's a mix
 of campers  lodgers that may be preferable.

 Personally I favor camping within walking distance of a restaurant (not
 being much of a cook).  What do others prefer?

 dougP

 On Friday, June 7, 2013 11:48:51 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 So date seems set.

 July 27-28 For the Rivendell Ramble Rumble (California Edition)

 Now lets agree on a place where we can meet.

 Lets worry about route and places to sleep afterwords. If we can all agree
 on a central place then those things will fall into place.
 Not like any of those things are super important.. We can make those
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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-08 Thread Mike Schiller
If we want to reserve a regular site we are too late to get a good 
campground with showers. The best ones...Morro Bay and Pismo SP's are 
booked that weekend. 
Morro Strand is open but no showers or and few trees for shade.  San Simeon 
has only the primitive section open ( no showers) .  We could do the 
hiker/biker sites for the train travelers but that wouldn't work for those 
that drive there.

The best of the leftovers to me is Morro Strand SP. Flush toilets, closer 
to a decent size town, and not to far from the train station in SLO.

any other ideas?  The Motel 6's ( two of them) are 5 miles south of SLO and 
charge $106/n. The south one is better BTW. 

~mike

On Saturday, June 8, 2013 1:36:04 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 As I recall, there are a couple of restaurants in San Simeon, but it's 
 not a very big town. Hearst Castle is amazing to visit if you've never 
 been there.  I've camped at San Simeon, Oceano and Morro Bay; as I 
 recall, Morro Bay was the nicest. 

 I also recall once, a long long time ago, riding north from Morro Bay 
 up Big Sur. Beautiful, but very very strong headwinds. That was in the 
 spring; the summer has smaller winds I think. 

 On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net javascript: 
 wrote: 
  Looks like we've got an event!  Now, a key driver of location: 
  
  Camping?  Morro Bay SP is adjacent to town with all the attendant 
 services. 
  San Simeon SP is a couple of miles north of San Simeon  several miles 
 north 
  of Cambria.  Oceano Dunes is adjacent to Pismo  Arroyo Grande, about 10 
  miles south of SLO.  Area has a mix of lodging as well. 
  
  Lodging?  SLO is a natural, with tons of places.  Cambria is right on 
 the 
  coast BUT you have to snag a decent rate catch a deal well in advance or 
  take your chances on day of.  Moro Bay also has lodging so if it's a 
 mix 
  of campers  lodgers that may be preferable. 
  
  Personally I favor camping within walking distance of a restaurant (not 
  being much of a cook).  What do others prefer? 
  
  dougP 
  
  On Friday, June 7, 2013 11:48:51 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: 
  
  So date seems set. 
  
  July 27-28 For the Rivendell Ramble Rumble (California Edition) 
  
  Now lets agree on a place where we can meet. 
  
  Lets worry about route and places to sleep afterwords. If we can all 
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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-07 Thread allenmichael
I would be interested in a few days either in SLO or the Southern Sierras 
with a slight preference for the mountains. What dates are we talking 
about? I have a trip planned from July 5-9 but could get away for three or 
so days any other weekend in July.

On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in 
 Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things 
 semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving 
 down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?


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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-07 Thread cyclotourist
SLO would be great, especially if it revolved Firestone Public House! I'm
probably unavailable for any extended trip, but late July or August
weekends miight work.

Cheers,
David



On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:36 AM, allenmichael allenmich...@mac.com wrote:

 I would be interested in a few days either in SLO or the Southern Sierras
 with a slight preference for the mountains. What dates are we talking
 about? I have a trip planned from July 5-9 but could get away for three or
 so days any other weekend in July.


 On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in
 Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things
 semi more organized.
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving
 down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?

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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-07 Thread Manuel Acosta
General Rule of thumb for most trips is that the designation can always be 
changed but the date needs to be set in place. 

I propose the date for the California Ramble Rumble as July 27-28.



On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in 
 Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things 
 semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving 
 down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?


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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-07 Thread Hugh Smitham
I'd be good with the Southern Sierra on Manny's date. Just wondering
though is it worth a 4 hour drive 8 hour RT for two days? Shall we
make it at least three? Or would that cause a drop off in
participation?

Mike since you know the area let's talk route. I imagine we would have
have a meet up spot, then ride to a base camp with a next day Rumble.
Just throwing it out there perhaps Meet at Shaver lake and ride to
Huntington Lake 22 miles for camping then the next day ride out
perhaps toward Kaiser peak on some of those graded dirt roads? Or meet
at Huntington Lake and ride the 24 miles toward Florence Lake? Let me
know what you think? If this firms up I'll look for a USGS map of the
area.

Best,


Hugh
Sunland, Ca


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Manuel Acosta
manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote:
 General Rule of thumb for most trips is that the designation can always be
 changed but the date needs to be set in place.

 I propose the date for the California Ramble Rumble as July 27-28.



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 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in
 Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things
 semi more organized.
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving
 down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?

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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-07 Thread dougP
July 27-28 works for me.  Agree that the date is the primary decision  
location secondary.  

dougP

On Friday, June 7, 2013 8:52:58 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 General Rule of thumb for most trips is that the designation can always be 
 changed but the date needs to be set in place. 

 I propose the date for the California Ramble Rumble as July 27-28.



 On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in 
 Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things 
 semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving 
 down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?



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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-07 Thread Curtis McKenzie
Hi,

Just put together my new used Homer.  What a bike!  It would be fun to meet
up with you guyshowever I will be walking from Lake Tahoe to Yosemite
at the end of July.  I will keep my eyes open for socal riv riding events.

This group really inspires.

Take care


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:02 AM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 July 27-28 works for me.  Agree that the date is the primary decision 
 location secondary.

 dougP

 On Friday, June 7, 2013 8:52:58 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 General Rule of thumb for most trips is that the designation can always
 be changed but the date needs to be set in place.

 I propose the date for the California Ramble Rumble as July 27-28.



 On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in
 Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things
 semi more organized.
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving
 down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?

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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-07 Thread Mike Schiller
Hugh, The road from Shaver to Huntington has a lot more traffic. The best 
roads are up to Kaiser Pass and then to either Edison lake or Florence 
lake. Even though it's only ~27 miles one way  to each, there is a lot of 
climbing and the downhills are slow  due to the narrow winding roads. 
 
I don't know if the consensus is day rides from a base camp or an overnight 
to one of the lakes?  A round-trip to one of the lakes would be like 50+ 
miles and 5000+' of climbing. Obviously the s24o would be 1/2 of that. 
There is a nice cafe and store at Edison near the campground and showers. 
There is also a day 3 option to go around Kaiser Peak and stay at a more 
primitive campsite off of Stump springs rd. 

 This is one of the rare places you can ride deep into the Sierras on your 
bike but you have to work for it.

SLO would be a lot gentler riding and access by train. 

 also that weekend works good for me.


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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-07 Thread Anne Paulson
I like the idea of access by train or bike. People both from the Bay
Area and from the LA area can ride to SLO, but riding through the
Central Valley in July is not at all appealing.

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Mike Schiller
mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 Hugh, The road from Shaver to Huntington has a lot more traffic. The best
 roads are up to Kaiser Pass and then to either Edison lake or Florence lake.
 Even though it's only ~27 miles one way  to each, there is a lot of climbing
 and the downhills are slow  due to the narrow winding roads.

 I don't know if the consensus is day rides from a base camp or an overnight
 to one of the lakes?  A round-trip to one of the lakes would be like 50+
 miles and 5000+' of climbing. Obviously the s24o would be 1/2 of that. There
 is a nice cafe and store at Edison near the campground and showers. There is
 also a day 3 option to go around Kaiser Peak and stay at a more primitive
 campsite off of Stump springs rd.

  This is one of the rare places you can ride deep into the Sierras on your
 bike but you have to work for it.

 SLO would be a lot gentler riding and access by train.

  also that weekend works good for me.


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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-07 Thread allenmichael
I will ask for these dates tonight and see if my better half will join me.

On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in 
 Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things 
 semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving 
 down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?


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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-07 Thread dougP
The Sierra option means either a drive or a hot slog across the valley.  
OTH, once there, the altitude means cooler temps.  Mike is correct about 
the temps around Paso Robles / Templeton / Atascadero area being hot.  
There is a serious range of hills east of SLO that makes that valley a lot 
warmer than the coast.  San Simeon / Cayucos / Moro Bay can be considerably 
cooler.  

As Manny pointed out, the date is the key, then we worry about the 
destination.  And once I'm north of LA, I'll spend longer than a weekend.  

dougP

On Friday, June 7, 2013 12:44:06 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 I like the idea of access by train or bike. People both from the Bay 
 Area and from the LA area can ride to SLO, but riding through the 
 Central Valley in July is not at all appealing. 

 On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Mike Schiller 
 mikey...@rocketmail.com javascript: wrote: 
  Hugh, The road from Shaver to Huntington has a lot more traffic. The 
 best 
  roads are up to Kaiser Pass and then to either Edison lake or Florence 
 lake. 
  Even though it's only ~27 miles one way  to each, there is a lot of 
 climbing 
  and the downhills are slow  due to the narrow winding roads. 
  
  I don't know if the consensus is day rides from a base camp or an 
 overnight 
  to one of the lakes?  A round-trip to one of the lakes would be like 50+ 
  miles and 5000+' of climbing. Obviously the s24o would be 1/2 of that. 
 There 
  is a nice cafe and store at Edison near the campground and showers. 
 There is 
  also a day 3 option to go around Kaiser Peak and stay at a more 
 primitive 
  campsite off of Stump springs rd. 
  
   This is one of the rare places you can ride deep into the Sierras on 
 your 
  bike but you have to work for it. 
  
  SLO would be a lot gentler riding and access by train. 
  
   also that weekend works good for me. 
  
  
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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-07 Thread Mike Schiller
food for thought  
http://pathlesspedaled.com/2013/01/california-dreaming-undiscovered-cycling-playground/

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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-07 Thread Anne Paulson
Better for fall/winter/early spring than for high summer.

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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-07 Thread Hugh Smitham
I agree with Anne my thoughts exactly. I'll drive to the Sierra's
perhaps some carpooling can happen?

Mike, you obviously know this area and I don't know the area at all so
I'll need to map it a bit in the near future. Sort of preoccupied and
full in on next week's tour down the coast.


Hugh
Sunland, Ca


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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-07 Thread Mike Schiller
the inland routes are too hot for summer. The See Cyn route is close to the 
ocean and would be fine. We would need to come up with another ride that 
goes north and is along the coast during mid day and afternoon. Maybe 
Stagecoach rd  to Tv Tower rd to the coast and back thru Morro Bay.

~mike

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 Better for fall/winter/early spring than for high summer. 

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 wrote: 
  food for thought 
  
 http://pathlesspedaled.com/2013/01/california-dreaming-undiscovered-cycling-playground/
  



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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-06 Thread hsmitham
Mike that's an interesting idea, I was recently thinking about a short 
tour/camping in the Southern Sierra. I'd be game if it was scheduled on a 
weekend  I'll take a day or more off if necessary. I too like where this is 
going. Doug don't we have a S240 tentatively planned in July? El Morro 
camp? 

Best,

~Hugh

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 The Central Coast has some nice rides for sure. Except Paso and Templeton 
 get really hot in summer... like 100 degrees.  How about somewhere like 
 Huntington Lake. There are some nice backcounty roads up there including 
 Kaiser Pass. The roads into Edison and Florence lake are remote, single 
 lane and above 7000 ft. There are campgrounds and hotels around Huntington. 
   There is quite a bit of climbing to Kaiser pass which is at 9184 ft.

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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-06 Thread Mike Schiller
I was up there last summer for a backpacking trip out of Florence lake and 
thought that the roads would be perfect for a fat tired bike tour. We could 
do day rides from Huntington or even a tour to Vermilion Resort.   
http://www.edisonlake.com/   The roads to Florence  and Edsion lakes are 
 the most remote in the Sierra's. The roads are paved now but past Kaiser 
Pass they look like someone just paved a dirt road with out grading.  

It's a 4 hr drive  from LA or SF so a three day weekend would allow for 2 
days of riding.  


The is good riding also in the Alta Sierra Range  west of Lake Isabella. 
Better in Sept maybe. One could ride up to the old logging mill in 
Johnsondale and then up towards Alta Sierra on narrow paved roads through 
pine forests. 

~mike

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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-06 Thread dougP
We'd picked July with the 12th, 19th  26th open.  I need to contact the 
park to see if they've got any large groups scheduled.  Now is a good time 
to do so as I expect any large group would need to plan well in advance.

OTH, if the stars align for an out of town adventure with the NorCal group 
that would be preferable.  People have more flexibility in summer so I 
think the turnout would be better.  Those elevations are definitely for 
summer time too.  I don't know any of those areas so it would be new turf, 
which is always welcome.  

dougP

On Thursday, June 6, 2013 10:53:37 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Mike that's an interesting idea, I was recently thinking about a short 
 tour/camping in the Southern Sierra. I'd be game if it was scheduled on a 
 weekend  I'll take a day or more off if necessary. I too like where this is 
 going. Doug don't we have a S240 tentatively planned in July? El Morro 
 camp? 

 Best,

 ~Hugh

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 The Central Coast has some nice rides for sure. Except Paso and Templeton 
 get really hot in summer... like 100 degrees.  How about somewhere like 
 Huntington Lake. There are some nice backcounty roads up there including 
 Kaiser Pass. The roads into Edison and Florence lake are remote, single 
 lane and above 7000 ft. There are campgrounds and hotels around Huntington. 
   There is quite a bit of climbing to Kaiser pass which is at 9184 ft.

 ~mike




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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-06 Thread Hugh Smitham
Let's shoot for a SoCal, NorCal adventure in July and the S240 @ El
Morro on any of the open weekends. Just my two cents worth.

~Hugh
Hugh
Sunland, Ca


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:40 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
 We'd picked July with the 12th, 19th  26th open.  I need to contact the
 park to see if they've got any large groups scheduled.  Now is a good time
 to do so as I expect any large group would need to plan well in advance.

 OTH, if the stars align for an out of town adventure with the NorCal group
 that would be preferable.  People have more flexibility in summer so I think
 the turnout would be better.  Those elevations are definitely for summer
 time too.  I don't know any of those areas so it would be new turf, which is
 always welcome.

 dougP


 On Thursday, June 6, 2013 10:53:37 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Mike that's an interesting idea, I was recently thinking about a short
 tour/camping in the Southern Sierra. I'd be game if it was scheduled on a
 weekend  I'll take a day or more off if necessary. I too like where this is
 going. Doug don't we have a S240 tentatively planned in July? El Morro camp?

 Best,

 ~Hugh

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 The Central Coast has some nice rides for sure. Except Paso and Templeton
 get really hot in summer... like 100 degrees.  How about somewhere like
 Huntington Lake. There are some nice backcounty roads up there including
 Kaiser Pass. The roads into Edison and Florence lake are remote, single lane
 and above 7000 ft. There are campgrounds and hotels around Huntington.
 There is quite a bit of climbing to Kaiser pass which is at 9184 ft.

 ~mike


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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-06 Thread dougP
Agree.  

How does Mike's suggestion sound to the Northern Californians?  Looks to be 
due east of Monterey Bay.  

dougP

On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:57:08 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Let's shoot for a SoCal, NorCal adventure in July and the S240 @ El 
 Morro on any of the open weekends. Just my two cents worth. 

 ~Hugh 
 Hugh 
 Sunland, Ca 


 On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:40 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net javascript: 
 wrote: 
  We'd picked July with the 12th, 19th  26th open.  I need to contact the 
  park to see if they've got any large groups scheduled.  Now is a good 
 time 
  to do so as I expect any large group would need to plan well in advance. 
  
  OTH, if the stars align for an out of town adventure with the NorCal 
 group 
  that would be preferable.  People have more flexibility in summer so I 
 think 
  the turnout would be better.  Those elevations are definitely for summer 
  time too.  I don't know any of those areas so it would be new turf, 
 which is 
  always welcome. 
  
  dougP 
  
  
  On Thursday, June 6, 2013 10:53:37 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: 
  
  Mike that's an interesting idea, I was recently thinking about a short 
  tour/camping in the Southern Sierra. I'd be game if it was scheduled on 
 a 
  weekend  I'll take a day or more off if necessary. I too like where 
 this is 
  going. Doug don't we have a S240 tentatively planned in July? El Morro 
 camp? 
  
  Best, 
  
  ~Hugh 
  
  On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 2:28:22 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote: 
  
  The Central Coast has some nice rides for sure. Except Paso and 
 Templeton 
  get really hot in summer... like 100 degrees.  How about somewhere 
 like 
  Huntington Lake. There are some nice backcounty roads up there 
 including 
  Kaiser Pass. The roads into Edison and Florence lake are remote, 
 single lane 
  and above 7000 ft. There are campgrounds and hotels around Huntington. 
  There is quite a bit of climbing to Kaiser pass which is at 9184 ft. 
  
  ~mike 
  
  
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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-05 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
I probably won't make it to this, but I like where this is going. 


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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-05 Thread dougP
San Luis Obispo is central to lots of great cycling, and is accessible to 
all.  It's generally considered mid-way between LA  San Francisco.  If 
this is unknown territory for some, all the better!  Camping?  San Simeon, 
Morro Bay, Montana de Oro.  Plenty of lodging choices plus tons of good 
coffee places in SLO itself as well as outlying areas.  In Templeton is the 
Bike Lane Inn, a small BB run by  a couple who have been touring for 
decades and have an inventory of routes around the area.  

Manny, this is the best idea you've had, and you get some pretty 
interesting ones!  I like it a lot.

dougP

On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in 
 Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things 
 semi more organized. 
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving 
 down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?


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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-05 Thread René Sterental
Sounds like a very enticing idea. Hopefully I'm going to be available when
it's scheduled. I'm off on the first half of July...

René


On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:29 AM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 San Luis Obispo is central to lots of great cycling, and is accessible to
 all.  It's generally considered mid-way between LA  San Francisco.  If
 this is unknown territory for some, all the better!  Camping?  San Simeon,
 Morro Bay, Montana de Oro.  Plenty of lodging choices plus tons of good
 coffee places in SLO itself as well as outlying areas.  In Templeton is the
 Bike Lane Inn, a small BB run by  a couple who have been touring for
 decades and have an inventory of routes around the area.

 Manny, this is the best idea you've had, and you get some pretty
 interesting ones!  I like it a lot.

 dougP


 On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in
 Cal.

 Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things
 semi more organized.
 Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving
 down somewhere in the middle.

 Any ideas?

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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-05 Thread Mike Schiller
The Central Coast has some nice rides for sure. Except Paso and Templeton 
get really hot in summer... like 100 degrees.  How about somewhere like 
Huntington Lake. There are some nice backcounty roads up there including 
Kaiser Pass. The roads into Edison and Florence lake are remote, single 
lane and above 7000 ft. There are campgrounds and hotels around Huntington. 
  There is quite a bit of climbing to Kaiser pass which is at 9184 ft.

~mike


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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-05 Thread Joe Bunik
Yes yes yes yes mike Schiller has it - just make it a weekend or
whatever I can make it!!!


On 6/5/13, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 The Central Coast has some nice rides for sure. Except Paso and Templeton
 get really hot in summer... like 100 degrees.  How about somewhere like
 Huntington Lake. There are some nice backcounty roads up there including
 Kaiser Pass. The roads into Edison and Florence lake are remote, single
 lane and above 7000 ft. There are campgrounds and hotels around Huntington.

   There is quite a bit of climbing to Kaiser pass which is at 9184 ft.

 ~mike


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