[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[Dave Johnston]

25.4 posts are reasonable common especially in suspension posts like the 
cane creek, then you get a shim for whatever you need.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cane-Creek-Seatpost-shim-25-4-to-26-8mm/372486956315?epid=4012052847=item56b9f3e51b:g:FmMAAOSwWp9c7ra~

-Dave

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 9:07:28 PM UTC-4, Ann L wrote:
>
> So I am minding my own business, out for my evening ride on my Appaloosa, 
> when the saddle came off.  I didn't crash but it was not fun.  The bolt was 
> completely sheared off.  But the weird thing is, the same thing happened to 
> me a year ago.  Any idea as to why this keeps happening?  The saddle is a 
> Brooks 67.
>

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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[Drw]

Looks like kalloy has a 26.8 with 2 bolts now. Zero setback though. Anyone 
tried it?

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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[Corwin]

Hey George -

A couple years ago, I bought a tandem outfitted with two 26.8 seat posts. 
Did not like either since they were not two-bolt.

Found a couple Campagnolo 26.8 two-bolt seat posts on EBay. Not sure about 
the prices I paid - but they were much less than current Nitto two-bolt 
seat posts.

Namaste,


Corwin

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 12:31:54 PM UTC-7, George Schick wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info, gents, but I seem recall doing a search for this 
> sometime in the past and finding very little.  So, to make sure I wasn't 
> just talking through my hat, I got out the calipers and re-measured the one 
> that's on there now.  Turns out that I was (talking through my hat, that 
> is).  It measures 26.5mm.  It's not the original post, but one that fits - 
> it came off an old Schwinn.  That means a 26.6 would probably work, but 
> those are the cheap ones, mainly single bolt that are out there in the 
> market.  I'd measure the original post, but I lost track of it. I recall 
> that it had some strange Greek lettering on it.  But I suspect that .1mm 
> either way would've fit.  
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 2:03:58 PM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote:
>>
>> Quick ebay search shows 4 used, silver, 26.8, 2 bolt posts available ATM. 
>> Not really scarce.
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 2:49:50 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>>
>>> Ann is facing an interesting dilemma, as am I.  One of my bikes is a 
>>> nearly 50 year old Fuji road bike from the early 70's.  It was in pretty 
>>> bad shape when I got it and I fixed it up with various more modern 
>>> components, etc. into a Resurrectio.  But the one constraint is that 26.8 
>>> seat post.  I'd like something more modern, something with the two-bolt 
>>> saddle clamp, as described above.  But it's slim pickin's out there in the 
>>> component market and I'm pretty much stuck with a cheap old single-bolt, 
>>> hard to adjust accurately seat post, like it or not.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 1:26:02 PM UTC-5, Ann L wrote:

 Dave:

 Thank you.  But I don't think it will work.  I currently have a 26.8 x 
 250 Nitto 65s seatpost and that one only comes in 27.2.



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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[Joe Bernard]

Score! Good call, Ann, it's a great strong post with the added benefit of lotsa 
setback. You may not have to slam your saddle all the way back. 

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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks for the help, folks.  I just bought a Nitto s83 off of ebay for $82, 
including shipping.  Hopefully, this will end my bolt shearing 
experiences.  Although I didn't crash the last time it happened, I did have 
to walk my bike back for almost 5 miles so I will happily pay not to do 
that again.

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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[George Schick]

Thanks for the info, gents, but I seem recall doing a search for this 
sometime in the past and finding very little.  So, to make sure I wasn't 
just talking through my hat, I got out the calipers and re-measured the one 
that's on there now.  Turns out that I was (talking through my hat, that 
is).  It measures 26.5mm.  It's not the original post, but one that fits - 
it came off an old Schwinn.  That means a 26.6 would probably work, but 
those are the cheap ones, mainly single bolt that are out there in the 
market.  I'd measure the original post, but I lost track of it. I recall 
that it had some strange Greek lettering on it.  But I suspect that .1mm 
either way would've fit.  


On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 2:03:58 PM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
> Quick ebay search shows 4 used, silver, 26.8, 2 bolt posts available ATM. 
> Not really scarce.
>
> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 2:49:50 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>
>> Ann is facing an interesting dilemma, as am I.  One of my bikes is a 
>> nearly 50 year old Fuji road bike from the early 70's.  It was in pretty 
>> bad shape when I got it and I fixed it up with various more modern 
>> components, etc. into a Resurrectio.  But the one constraint is that 26.8 
>> seat post.  I'd like something more modern, something with the two-bolt 
>> saddle clamp, as described above.  But it's slim pickin's out there in the 
>> component market and I'm pretty much stuck with a cheap old single-bolt, 
>> hard to adjust accurately seat post, like it or not.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 1:26:02 PM UTC-5, Ann L wrote:
>>>
>>> Dave:
>>>
>>> Thank you.  But I don't think it will work.  I currently have a 26.8 x 
>>> 250 Nitto 65s seatpost and that one only comes in 27.2.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[Brian Campbell]

Quick ebay search shows 4 used, silver, 26.8, 2 bolt posts available ATM. 
Not really scarce.

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 2:49:50 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:

> Ann is facing an interesting dilemma, as am I.  One of my bikes is a 
> nearly 50 year old Fuji road bike from the early 70's.  It was in pretty 
> bad shape when I got it and I fixed it up with various more modern 
> components, etc. into a Resurrectio.  But the one constraint is that 26.8 
> seat post.  I'd like something more modern, something with the two-bolt 
> saddle clamp, as described above.  But it's slim pickin's out there in the 
> component market and I'm pretty much stuck with a cheap old single-bolt, 
> hard to adjust accurately seat post, like it or not.
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 1:26:02 PM UTC-5, Ann L wrote:
>>
>> Dave:
>>
>> Thank you.  But I don't think it will work.  I currently have a 26.8 x 
>> 250 Nitto 65s seatpost and that one only comes in 27.2.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[lconley]

Nitto S-83 is a two bolt available in 26.8, I have several.

Laing

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 2:49:50 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:

> Ann is facing an interesting dilemma, as am I.  One of my bikes is a 
> nearly 50 year old Fuji road bike from the early 70's.  It was in pretty 
> bad shape when I got it and I fixed it up with various more modern 
> components, etc. into a Resurrectio.  But the one constraint is that 26.8 
> seat post.  I'd like something more modern, something with the two-bolt 
> saddle clamp, as described above.  But it's slim pickin's out there in the 
> component market and I'm pretty much stuck with a cheap old single-bolt, 
> hard to adjust accurately seat post, like it or not.
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 1:26:02 PM UTC-5, Ann L wrote:
>>
>> Dave:
>>
>> Thank you.  But I don't think it will work.  I currently have a 26.8 x 
>> 250 Nitto 65s seatpost and that one only comes in 27.2.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[George Schick]

Ann is facing an interesting dilemma, as am I.  One of my bikes is a nearly 
50 year old Fuji road bike from the early 70's.  It was in pretty bad shape 
when I got it and I fixed it up with various more modern components, etc. 
into a Resurrectio.  But the one constraint is that 26.8 seat post.  I'd 
like something more modern, something with the two-bolt saddle clamp, as 
described above.  But it's slim pickin's out there in the component market 
and I'm pretty much stuck with a cheap old single-bolt, hard to adjust 
accurately seat post, like it or not.


On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 1:26:02 PM UTC-5, Ann L wrote:
>
> Dave:
>
> Thank you.  But I don't think it will work.  I currently have a 26.8 x 250 
> Nitto 65s seatpost and that one only comes in 27.2.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[J L]

Ann,

I think the bolt fix you did a year ago is keen!  Thank you for posting about 
this. If I have to do a seat post bolt repair in the wild I will know to look 
for a high grade bolt. Sorry yours only worked for a year, glad to hear you 
were not hurt.

A B67 has all kinds of leverage from three sides and built in kinetic spring 
energy. Add in some poor luck and I can see how this might end up with a bolt 
sheering off.

Jason

> On Jul 15, 2020, at 11:26 AM, 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dave:
> 
> Thank you.  But I don't think it will work.  I currently have a 26.8 x 250 
> Nitto 65s seatpost and that one only comes in 27.2.
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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Dave:

Thank you.  But I don't think it will work.  I currently have a 26.8 x 250 
Nitto 65s seatpost and that one only comes in 27.2.

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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

['Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Ann,

If you need to replace the seat post, I'd recommend checking out 
Velo-Orange's long set-back post, seen here 
.
 
 It's a 2-bolt design so you don't need to crank it down, it has a set-back 
that's suitable for Brooks saddles, and it's reasonably priced.  

Dave
Boston/Indy

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Re: [RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Joe:

This is such a nice offer, but my local bike shop was able to find a bolt 
to fit the post.  As much as I would like a free seat post, the long term 
solution appears to be a two-bolt seat post.  You are correct that I like 
my saddle slammed all the way back.  But again, thank you.

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Re: [RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Joe:

Because I rode my bike to work when the original bolt broke.  It broke just 
as i was pulling in so I had to jury rig a replacement to get home.  The 
fix seemed to work and so I never got around to replacing it.  The two 
breaks were about a year apart.  Since the bolt sheared off twice in the 
same manner I originally thought it might have something to due with my 
saddle placement or other factors.

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Re: [RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[Joe Bernard]

The correct bolt should thread into the top half of the saddle-rail sandwich. 
What is the reason for the nut you're using?

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Re: [RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I actually have the nitto 65 post on the bike.  I took it by my local bike 
store this morning and they replaced the bolt. 

I'm thinking the first break was a freak accident and the second was caused 
by me fixing it with a substandard bolt.  Thanks for the responses 
everyone.  Hopefully, this one will hold.

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Re: [RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[Patrick Moore]

+1 for getting a well-reviewed new seatpost, like this one Rivendell sells;
well, they're out of stock, but the shorter version is available on Amazon
and eBay. (I think that the Ritchey post is the same thing as the Nitto
S65.)

Despite my natural talent for overtightening things (just snapped an
admittedly lightweight seatpost collar the other day) I've never broken one
of these. And grease the bolt before installation!

https://www.amazon.com/S65-NITTO-Seat-Post/dp/B004YA7DNE?th=1=1

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/NITTO-67-28-6mm-Seat-Post-Vintage-MTB-Ritchey-SILVER-T3/254613513036?hash=item3b4825e34c:g:Dy4AAOSwIFJe1ABp

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> I have tried several times to attach a picture but it's not coming through.
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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[Arthur Mayfield]

>From your photo, it looks like you have a B-67 saddle (sprung, one clamping 
rail, one support rail). If I’m wrong and you have one of the double 
clamping rail saddles like the B-66, you’re using the wrong kind of seat 
post. If it’s in fact a B-67, the seat post is correct, but the bolt is 
wrong. It should be a hex/Allen head metric bolt with a washer, not 
something with a nut. I suspect that the original bolt was lost and an 
SAE/US bolt was forced/cross-threaded into the top of the clamp, with a nut 
added to tighten it. I would only do that in an emergency where the only 
bolt available was SAE and I was a long way from home, realizing that I’d 
ruined my seat post and would need to replace it as soon as possible. 
Either way, you should have a bicycle mechanic look at your bike and 
install a new post that matches your seat design.

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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[James / Analog Cycles]

Looks to me like an aftermarket hardware store bolt, which would have 
dubious strength.  Also 1 bolt posts are known for failure.  The fix is 
expensive but simple.  A Nitto Jaguar or S83 seatpost, with original 
bolts.  I've sold hundreds, never seen a failure.  
Also make sure the saddle is centered on the clamp.  Pushing it back adds 
leverage, and can lead to failure.  

-James / Analog Cycles 

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 9:07:28 PM UTC-4, Ann L wrote:
>
> So I am minding my own business, out for my evening ride on my Appaloosa, 
> when the saddle came off.  I didn't crash but it was not fun.  The bolt was 
> completely sheared off.  But the weird thing is, the same thing happened to 
> me a year ago.  Any idea as to why this keeps happening?  The saddle is a 
> Brooks 67.
>

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['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I have tried several times to attach a picture but it's not coming through.

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['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I installed the bolt.  Here is a picture.

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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[Nick Payne]

On Tuesday, 14 July 2020 11:07:28 UTC+10, Ann L wrote:
>
> So I am minding my own business, out for my evening ride on my Appaloosa, 
> when the saddle came off.  I didn't crash but it was not fun.  The bolt was 
> completely sheared off.  But the weird thing is, the same thing happened to 
> me a year ago.  Any idea as to why this keeps happening?  The saddle is a 
> Brooks 67.
>

Sounds like you should get a two bolt rather than a one bolt seatpost. The 
saddle is held firmly in position without either bolt having to be done up 
as tightly as with a single bolt saddle clamp.




Nick


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