Re: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?

2010-03-20 Thread cyclotourist
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Dan Abelson  wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:27 AM, cyclotourist wrote:
>
>> On the Geared Hub Yahoo List, there was a recent saddle discussion.
>> Someone mentioned that the "women's" Team Pro-S has the same width as a B17,
>> but a shorter nose.  I don't know if the top is as flat as a B17, but that
>> sounds like a real good compromise!
>>
>>
>>
> My wife has a women's team pro-s and likes it a lot.  The width is the same
> as a B-17 it does have a shorter noise.  It does not have a flat top like a
> B17.  It is more rounded like a standard Team Pro.
>
> Dan Abelson
> St. Paul, MN
>
> --
>

There ya' go.  Should be a real good compromise if you want wider and
shorter.
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?

2010-03-20 Thread Dan Abelson
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:27 AM, cyclotourist wrote:

> On the Geared Hub Yahoo List, there was a recent saddle discussion.
> Someone mentioned that the "women's" Team Pro-S has the same width as a B17,
> but a shorter nose.  I don't know if the top is as flat as a B17, but that
> sounds like a real good compromise!
>
>
>
My wife has a women's team pro-s and likes it a lot.  The width is the same
as a B-17 it does have a shorter noise.  It does not have a flat top like a
B17.  It is more rounded like a standard Team Pro.

Dan Abelson
St. Paul, MN

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?

2010-03-20 Thread cyclotourist
On the Geared Hub Yahoo List, there was a recent saddle discussion.  Someone
mentioned that the "women's" Team Pro-S has the same width as a B17, but a
shorter nose.  I don't know if the top is as flat as a B17, but that sounds
like a real good compromise!

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 9:09 AM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> That's my experience with B-17s. The only one that has been comfortable is
> the one on the Sam with bar flats just under an inch higher than saddle;
> though I ride a lot in the deepish Noodle drops. The only factor that makes
> me anxious is the chafing of the, you guessed it, nose in the crotchal seams
> (sorry!), but if I lower the nose I am afraid I'll destroy the hammock like
> comfort of the rear part of the saddle. I'll put many more miles on it,
> first, then, if it seems unlikely to be suitable for multi-day riding, I'll
> try to adjust the tilt. But I have a Flite in store, just in case.
>
> The Pro *is* comfortable, for me, with bars 2" below saddle; but again, the
> tilt was impossible to fine tune just right after 12 or 18 months; either
> goosed or sliding onto my hands.
>
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Michael_S wrote:
>
>> I have had the same experience. I used a b-17 on my Curtlo ( now sold)
>> about 1 inch blow the saddle... only time it felt ok was sitting up
>> climbing, I took it off after a week. When I got my new Hillborne and
>> tried it with the bars level with the saddle... voila... I was
>> instantly comfortable with really no break in period.
>>
>> I guess I'll have to see what to do with the new Coho when I get the
>> rest of the parts and build it. I own a regal that I was using on the
>> Curtlo. Guess I'll try that 1st.
>>
>> ~Mike~
>>
>> On Mar 19, 5:01 pm, Dustin Sharp  wrote:
>> > For me at least, anything more than an inch or so and I had a hard time
>> > getting comfy on a B17, no matter how much I played with tilt. Most of
>> my
>> > bikes have close to two inches of drop.
>> >
>> > Set up with a set of albatross bars and a more upright position, the
>> same
>> > B-17 genital torture device became quite pleasant to ride.  When you can
>> get
>> > it right, nothing is more comfy than a Brooks.
>> >
>> > I'm tempted to try one of the new Berthoud saddles to see if that works
>> > better than the B-17 with about 2 inches of S-t-B drop.
>> >
>> > Dustin
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?

2010-03-20 Thread PATRICK MOORE
That's my experience with B-17s. The only one that has been comfortable is
the one on the Sam with bar flats just under an inch higher than saddle;
though I ride a lot in the deepish Noodle drops. The only factor that makes
me anxious is the chafing of the, you guessed it, nose in the crotchal seams
(sorry!), but if I lower the nose I am afraid I'll destroy the hammock like
comfort of the rear part of the saddle. I'll put many more miles on it,
first, then, if it seems unlikely to be suitable for multi-day riding, I'll
try to adjust the tilt. But I have a Flite in store, just in case.

The Pro *is* comfortable, for me, with bars 2" below saddle; but again, the
tilt was impossible to fine tune just right after 12 or 18 months; either
goosed or sliding onto my hands.

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Michael_S wrote:

> I have had the same experience. I used a b-17 on my Curtlo ( now sold)
> about 1 inch blow the saddle... only time it felt ok was sitting up
> climbing, I took it off after a week. When I got my new Hillborne and
> tried it with the bars level with the saddle... voila... I was
> instantly comfortable with really no break in period.
>
> I guess I'll have to see what to do with the new Coho when I get the
> rest of the parts and build it. I own a regal that I was using on the
> Curtlo. Guess I'll try that 1st.
>
> ~Mike~
>
> On Mar 19, 5:01 pm, Dustin Sharp  wrote:
> > For me at least, anything more than an inch or so and I had a hard time
> > getting comfy on a B17, no matter how much I played with tilt. Most of my
> > bikes have close to two inches of drop.
> >
> > Set up with a set of albatross bars and a more upright position, the same
> > B-17 genital torture device became quite pleasant to ride.  When you can
> get
> > it right, nothing is more comfy than a Brooks.
> >
> > I'm tempted to try one of the new Berthoud saddles to see if that works
> > better than the B-17 with about 2 inches of S-t-B drop.
> >
> > Dustin
> >
> >
> >
>

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RE: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?

2010-03-20 Thread Frederick, Steve
Lance's choice!  I ran one of them for a couple of seasons--it's pretty hard 
and narrow, but the shape worked well for me when I was young and always going 
hard with the bars several inches below the saddle...

Steve 


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Subject: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?
 
Aaron,

Give San Marco Concor a try, my choice for most of my bikes.  The
Concor has been around for a long time and it works for many folks.

Ron

On Mar 18, 2:16 pm, Aaron Thomas  wrote:
> In fact, my favorite saddle is not a Brooks at all; it is a Selle San
> Marco Regal. I think the Regal looks just fine on my Romulus, some
> might even say "classico".
>
> Moreover, since it is leather stretched over some padding and a
> plastic frame, you can ride it in the rain without worries about
> sagging or keeping it covered to protect it from the elements. When I
> rode a B17 (which I didn't care for too much) and a Team Pro (which I
> actually did like quite a bit), I always found it a hassle to have to
> pamper and protect for fear of them getting water-logged and saggy.
> The Regal is carefree by comparison.
>
> Aaron
>
> On Mar 18, 1:33 pm, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
>
> > Actually, I wouldn't choose any of them. One need not ride Brooks saddles 
> > or some other slab of leather hammocked over a metal frame to be 
> > Rivendellian. Some of us prefer other choices. No saddle that is 
> > uncomfortable will ever grace my seatpost for long, and Brooks saddles have 
> > been known to grace my seatpost shorter than  most.
>
> > YB(utt)MV,
>
> > Joe
>
> > > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:11:19 -0800
> > > Subject: Re: [RBW] What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?
> > > From: cyclofi...@earthlink.net
> > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > > on 3/18/10 11:37 AM, usuk2007 at clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote:
>
> > > > I've seen the Roadeo with B17's and maybe Fizik saddles, but not one
> > > > with a Brooks Swift or Swallow which would seem to be the ideal way to
> > > > go. Classic, but made to ride fast and they still have bag loops.
>
> > > Those would be my choices.  I think some of the issue is that there really
> > > aren't that many out there yet.
>
> > > - J
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?

2010-03-19 Thread Ryan Watson
 
On Friday, March 19, 2010, at 07:34PM, "usuk2007"  
wrote:
>+1 a wide saddle with deep sides looks strange on an agressively setup
>bike with some handlebar drop.
>I'm amazed that more folks on here haven't tried the Brooks narrow
>saddles like the Swift.There are alternatives
>to the B17.

I used to ride B17s exclusively, but now find my butt likes the Swift even 
better.

>I've seen the Berthoud saddles in the flesh (should that read leather)
>and they look awful compared to the Brooks.
>The back is plastic, the leather is mottled and the shape loots
>malformed. 

You must have seen the "cork" model. I agree those look bad. 
But this looks great to me:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wallblog/4251727337/
I'll be getting one first chance I get!

Ryan

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?

2010-03-19 Thread Clayton Scott
The b.17 is an odd thing for me. It not 100% comfortable when I start a
ride, maybe say 85% comfortable, whereas a San Marco Regal feels just
superbly amazing 100% spot on comfortable when I first hop on the bike.

However, as the ride progresses the Brooks' comfort stays consistent and at
times even seems to improve, whereas the San Marco Regal start to be a real
PITA after around mile 40 or so. I can ride the b.17 for 200 miles without
ever feeling the need to get off the saddle due to it getting too painful.
On a Regal that would be unthinkable, but a ride around the block would have
me believe the Regal is the best thing ever.

Of course different saddles for different people is true no matter what and
this is just personal experience, but maybe mileage has something to do with
saddle preference and consideration as well. If I only rode 10 mile rides I
would use a Regal

Good like finding the perfect one.

Clayton Scott
SF CA









On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Michael_S wrote:

> I have had the same experience. I used a b-17 on my Curtlo ( now sold)
> about 1 inch blow the saddle... only time it felt ok was sitting up
> climbing, I took it off after a week. When I got my new Hillborne and
> tried it with the bars level with the saddle... voila... I was
> instantly comfortable with really no break in period.
>
> I guess I'll have to see what to do with the new Coho when I get the
> rest of the parts and build it. I own a regal that I was using on the
> Curtlo. Guess I'll try that 1st.
>
> ~Mike~
>
> On Mar 19, 5:01 pm, Dustin Sharp  wrote:
> > For me at least, anything more than an inch or so and I had a hard time
> > getting comfy on a B17, no matter how much I played with tilt. Most of my
> > bikes have close to two inches of drop.
> >
> > Set up with a set of albatross bars and a more upright position, the same
> > B-17 genital torture device became quite pleasant to ride.  When you can
> get
> > it right, nothing is more comfy than a Brooks.
> >
> > I'm tempted to try one of the new Berthoud saddles to see if that works
> > better than the B-17 with about 2 inches of S-t-B drop.
> >
> > Dustin
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: Steve Palincsar 
> > > Reply-To: 
> > > Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:53:41 -0400
> > > To: 
> > > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?
> >
> > > On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 16:19 -0700, Dustin Sharp wrote:
> > >> I don't know how anyone can bear to ride a B-17 with even modest
> > >> saddle-to-bar drop.
> >
> > > How small qualifies as "modest"?
> >
> > >>  That hard nose just digs into your nether regions like
> > >> nothing else! I don't know if things like the Swallow are better in
> this
> > >> regard. Narrower in the back, but still rock hard in the front, no?
> >
> > > Brooks saddles don't work for everyone, but they do work for many.  The
> > > Team Pro works very well with low bars, and its nose is no softer than
> > > that of the B.17.
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?

2010-03-19 Thread Dustin Sharp
For me at least, anything more than an inch or so and I had a hard time
getting comfy on a B17, no matter how much I played with tilt. Most of my
bikes have close to two inches of drop.

Set up with a set of albatross bars and a more upright position, the same
B-17 genital torture device became quite pleasant to ride.  When you can get
it right, nothing is more comfy than a Brooks.

I'm tempted to try one of the new Berthoud saddles to see if that works
better than the B-17 with about 2 inches of S-t-B drop.

Dustin



> From: Steve Palincsar 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:53:41 -0400
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?
> 
> On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 16:19 -0700, Dustin Sharp wrote:
>> I don't know how anyone can bear to ride a B-17 with even modest
>> saddle-to-bar drop.
> 
> How small qualifies as "modest"?
> 
> 
>>  That hard nose just digs into your nether regions like
>> nothing else! I don't know if things like the Swallow are better in this
>> regard. Narrower in the back, but still rock hard in the front, no?
> 
> Brooks saddles don't work for everyone, but they do work for many.  The
> Team Pro works very well with low bars, and its nose is no softer than
> that of the B.17.
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?

2010-03-19 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 16:19 -0700, Dustin Sharp wrote:
> I don't know how anyone can bear to ride a B-17 with even modest
> saddle-to-bar drop.

How small qualifies as "modest"?


>  That hard nose just digs into your nether regions like
> nothing else! I don't know if things like the Swallow are better in this
> regard. Narrower in the back, but still rock hard in the front, no?

Brooks saddles don't work for everyone, but they do work for many.  The
Team Pro works very well with low bars, and its nose is no softer than
that of the B.17.



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RE: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?

2010-03-19 Thread Frederick, Steve
Oh, yes--I've got thousands of miles on my various Regals--no troubles at all.  
I do wear cycling bibs on rides of any real distance, though...


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To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?
 
usuk2007: were you using cycling bibs or padded shorts with your
Regal? Maybe that makes the difference. I find the Regal supremely
comfortable, but then again, I wear bibs. Maybe my estimation would
change without padding.

aaron

On Mar 19, 1:38 pm, usuk2007  wrote:
> Steve,
> I hope the Regal is working for you. I found that after a few miles my
> butt knew that it was riding on unyielding plastic and the padding
> over it didn't help.
> By contrast the Brooks Swift I'm now using feels wonderful. It really
> is a matter of personal choice, and I can see the Regal or Swift on a
> Roadeo. I just think
> the B17 looks a little "clunky" on the Roadeo.
>
> On Mar 19, 8:49 am, "Frederick, Steve" 
> wrote:
>
> > I prefer the Regal as well--it's on most of my road bikes.  I think it's 
> > classic looks equal or in some applications exceed the aesthetic of a 
> > stretched leather model.  The low maintennance and lighter weight are just 
> > icing.  
>
> > It's interesting that you mention liking the Brooks Pro--you may already 
> > know that the Regal was designed to emulate the fit and feel of a broken in 
> > Pro, in order to win over skeptical racers when the idea of a plastic 
> > saddle was fairly new.
>
> > Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Aaron Thomas
> > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 5:16 PM
> > To: RBW Owners Bunch
> > Subject: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?
>
> > In fact, my favorite saddle is not a Brooks at all; it is a Selle San
> > Marco Regal. I think the Regal looks just fine on my Romulus, some
> > might even say "classico".
>
> > Moreover, since it is leather stretched over some padding and a
> > plastic frame, you can ride it in the rain without worries about
> > sagging or keeping it covered to protect it from the elements. When I
> > rode a B17 (which I didn't care for too much) and a Team Pro (which I
> > actually did like quite a bit), I always found it a hassle to have to
> > pamper and protect for fear of them getting water-logged and saggy.
> > The Regal is carefree by comparison.
>
> > Aaron
>
> > On Mar 18, 1:33 pm, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
> > > Actually, I wouldn't choose any of them. One need not ride Brooks saddles 
> > > or some other slab of leather hammocked over a metal frame to be 
> > > Rivendellian. Some of us prefer other choices. No saddle that is 
> > > uncomfortable will ever grace my seatpost for long, and Brooks saddles 
> > > have been known to grace my seatpost shorter than  most.
>
> > > YB(utt)MV,
>
> > > Joe
>
> > > > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:11:19 -0800
> > > > Subject: Re: [RBW] What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?
> > > > From: cyclofi...@earthlink.net
> > > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > > > on 3/18/10 11:37 AM, usuk2007 at clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote:
>
> > > > > I've seen the Roadeo with B17's and maybe Fizik saddles, but not one
> > > > > with a Brooks Swift or Swallow which would seem to be the ideal way to
> > > > > go. Classic, but made to ride fast and they still have bag loops.
>
> > > > Those would be my choices.  I think some of the issue is that there 
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?

2010-03-19 Thread Dustin Sharp
I don't know how anyone can bear to ride a B-17 with even modest
saddle-to-bar drop. That hard nose just digs into your nether regions like
nothing else! I don't know if things like the Swallow are better in this
regard. Narrower in the back, but still rock hard in the front, no?


> From: Patrick in VT 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:10:33 -0700 (PDT)
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Subject: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?
> 
> On Mar 19, 4:38 pm, usuk2007  wrote:
>>  I just think
>> the B17 looks a little "clunky" on the Roadeo.
> 
> i think it depends on the set-up too - a B17 is a fine saddle when the
> bars are at (or even above, as some like) saddle height.  in my
> experience, narrower saddles feel better when there is some handlebar
> drop and the bike is set-up for more aggresive riding.
> 
> i think it's same as far as looks go to - wider saddles look just fine
> when the handlebars are up, narrower saddles look better with some
> handlebar drop.
> 
> a b17 narrow would be another option.  that's a nice saddle for all
> you brooks fiends.
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RE: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?

2010-03-19 Thread Frederick, Steve
Well, sure--it's up to each rider to draw the line where fashion and 
comfort/function meet.  This past winter I installed my first leather bar tape, 
but I did it mainly for the color than the material.  If it's not as 
comfortable as my standard Fizik Microtex, it's gone!
 
Steve

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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?


But this is all just style, right?  The only really right answer is to use 
whatever saddle on that bike that supports you well for the kind of riding 
you're going to do.  For some, it's a Brooks or S-A.  For others, it's not.

What would, or perhaps did, Mark and Grant say?


On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Frederick, Steve < frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu> 
wrote:


I prefer the Regal as well--it's on most of my road bikes.  I think it's 
classic looks equal or in some applications exceed the aesthetic of a stretched 
leather model.  The low maintennance and lighter weight are just icing.

It's interesting that you mention liking the Brooks Pro--you may already know 
that the Regal was designed to emulate the fit and feel of a broken in Pro, in 
order to win over skeptical racers when the idea of a plastic saddle was fairly 
new.

Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI


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Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 5:16 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?


In fact, my favorite saddle is not a Brooks at all; it is a Selle San
Marco Regal. I think the Regal looks just fine on my Romulus, some
might even say "classico".

Moreover, since it is leather stretched over some padding and a
plastic frame, you can ride it in the rain without worries about
sagging or keeping it covered to protect it from the elements. When I
rode a B17 (which I didn't care for too much) and a Team Pro (which I
actually did like quite a bit), I always found it a hassle to have to
pamper and protect for fear of them getting water-logged and saggy.
The Regal is carefree by comparison.

Aaron

On Mar 18, 1:33 pm, Joe Bartoe < jbar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Actually, I wouldn't choose any of them. One need not ride Brooks saddles or 
> some other slab of leather hammocked over a metal frame to be Rivendellian. 
> Some of us prefer other choices. No saddle that is uncomfortable will ever 
> grace my seatpost for long, and Brooks saddles have been known to grace my 
> seatpost shorter than  most.
>
> YB(utt)MV,
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:11:19 -0800
> > Subject: Re: [RBW] What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?
> > From: cyclofi...@earthlink.net
> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > on 3/18/10 11:37 AM, usuk2007 at clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote:
>
> > > I've seen the Roadeo with B17's and maybe Fizik saddles, but not one
> > > with a Brooks Swift or Swallow which would seem to be the ideal way to
> > > go. Classic, but made to ride fast and they still have bag loops.
>
> > Those would be my choices.  I think some of the issue is that there really
> > aren't that many out there yet.
>
> > - J
>
> > --
> > Jim Edgar
> > cyclofi...@earthlink.net
>
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> > several miles to work. I'd sprayed it with some cheap gold paint so it
> > wouldn't look nice. Locked my bike to a radiator, because you never knew,
> > and went in."
> > -- Neal Stephenson, "Zodiac"
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?

2010-03-19 Thread Ken Freeman
But this is all just style, right?  The only really right answer is to use
whatever saddle on that bike that supports you well for the kind of riding
you're going to do.  For some, it's a Brooks or S-A.  For others, it's not.

What would, or perhaps did, Mark and Grant say?

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Frederick, Steve  wrote:

> I prefer the Regal as well--it's on most of my road bikes.  I think it's
> classic looks equal or in some applications exceed the aesthetic of a
> stretched leather model.  The low maintennance and lighter weight are just
> icing.
>
> It's interesting that you mention liking the Brooks Pro--you may already
> know that the Regal was designed to emulate the fit and feel of a broken in
> Pro, in order to win over skeptical racers when the idea of a plastic saddle
> was fairly new.
>
> Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI
>
> -Original Message-
> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Aaron Thomas
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 5:16 PM
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Subject: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?
>
>
> In fact, my favorite saddle is not a Brooks at all; it is a Selle San
> Marco Regal. I think the Regal looks just fine on my Romulus, some
> might even say "classico".
>
> Moreover, since it is leather stretched over some padding and a
> plastic frame, you can ride it in the rain without worries about
> sagging or keeping it covered to protect it from the elements. When I
> rode a B17 (which I didn't care for too much) and a Team Pro (which I
> actually did like quite a bit), I always found it a hassle to have to
> pamper and protect for fear of them getting water-logged and saggy.
> The Regal is carefree by comparison.
>
> Aaron
>
> On Mar 18, 1:33 pm, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
> > Actually, I wouldn't choose any of them. One need not ride Brooks saddles
> or some other slab of leather hammocked over a metal frame to be
> Rivendellian. Some of us prefer other choices. No saddle that is
> uncomfortable will ever grace my seatpost for long, and Brooks saddles have
> been known to grace my seatpost shorter than  most.
> >
> > YB(utt)MV,
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:11:19 -0800
> > > Subject: Re: [RBW] What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?
> > > From: cyclofi...@earthlink.net
> > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> >
> > > on 3/18/10 11:37 AM, usuk2007 at clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote:
> >
> > > > I've seen the Roadeo with B17's and maybe Fizik saddles, but not one
> > > > with a Brooks Swift or Swallow which would seem to be the ideal way
> to
> > > > go. Classic, but made to ride fast and they still have bag loops.
> >
> > > Those would be my choices.  I think some of the issue is that there
> really
> > > aren't that many out there yet.
> >
> > > - J
> >
> > > --
> > > Jim Edgar
> > > cyclofi...@earthlink.net
> >
> > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com
> > > Current Classics - Cross Bikes
> > > Singlespeed - Working Bikes
> >
> > > Your Photos are needed! - Send them here -
> > >http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines
> >
> > > "I threw one leg over my battle-scarred all-terrain stump-jumper and
> rode
> > > several miles to work. I'd sprayed it with some cheap gold paint so it
> > > wouldn't look nice. Locked my bike to a radiator, because you never
> knew,
> > > and went in."
> > > -- Neal Stephenson, "Zodiac"
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RE: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?

2010-03-19 Thread Frederick, Steve
I prefer the Regal as well--it's on most of my road bikes.  I think it's 
classic looks equal or in some applications exceed the aesthetic of a stretched 
leather model.  The low maintennance and lighter weight are just icing.  

It's interesting that you mention liking the Brooks Pro--you may already know 
that the Regal was designed to emulate the fit and feel of a broken in Pro, in 
order to win over skeptical racers when the idea of a plastic saddle was fairly 
new.

Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI 

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From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
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Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 5:16 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?


In fact, my favorite saddle is not a Brooks at all; it is a Selle San
Marco Regal. I think the Regal looks just fine on my Romulus, some
might even say "classico".

Moreover, since it is leather stretched over some padding and a
plastic frame, you can ride it in the rain without worries about
sagging or keeping it covered to protect it from the elements. When I
rode a B17 (which I didn't care for too much) and a Team Pro (which I
actually did like quite a bit), I always found it a hassle to have to
pamper and protect for fear of them getting water-logged and saggy.
The Regal is carefree by comparison.

Aaron

On Mar 18, 1:33 pm, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
> Actually, I wouldn't choose any of them. One need not ride Brooks saddles or 
> some other slab of leather hammocked over a metal frame to be Rivendellian. 
> Some of us prefer other choices. No saddle that is uncomfortable will ever 
> grace my seatpost for long, and Brooks saddles have been known to grace my 
> seatpost shorter than  most.
>
> YB(utt)MV,
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:11:19 -0800
> > Subject: Re: [RBW] What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?
> > From: cyclofi...@earthlink.net
> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > on 3/18/10 11:37 AM, usuk2007 at clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote:
>
> > > I've seen the Roadeo with B17's and maybe Fizik saddles, but not one
> > > with a Brooks Swift or Swallow which would seem to be the ideal way to
> > > go. Classic, but made to ride fast and they still have bag loops.
>
> > Those would be my choices.  I think some of the issue is that there really
> > aren't that many out there yet.
>
> > - J
>
> > --
> > Jim Edgar
> > cyclofi...@earthlink.net
>
> > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com
> > Current Classics - Cross Bikes
> > Singlespeed - Working Bikes
>
> > Your Photos are needed! - Send them here -
> >http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines
>
> > "I threw one leg over my battle-scarred all-terrain stump-jumper and rode
> > several miles to work. I'd sprayed it with some cheap gold paint so it
> > wouldn't look nice. Locked my bike to a radiator, because you never knew,
> > and went in."
> > -- Neal Stephenson, "Zodiac"
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