Re: [RDA-L] Proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG

2013-10-21 Thread Danskin, Alan
Dear Yan,

 

I will take the liberty of stepping in and responding to this, as Judy may not 
be aware of the background to your enquiry.

 

The issue you refer to was one of several identified by the Technical Group on 
the adoption of RDA in France.  Many of the issues identified by this group 
were discussed by EURIG (the European RDA Interest Group) at the EURIG 
Technical Meeting, hosted by BNF, in Paris on 27 January 2012.

 

There was a consensus at the meeting that it would be desirable for RDA to 
provide alternative instructions that would not mandate any particular order of 
elements when constructing an access point.  However, EURIG has not prioritised 
this work and no proposal has been put to JSC and none is currently planned.

 

Kind regards,

 

Alan

 

 

Alan Danskin

Vice-Chair EURIG

British Library Representative to JSC

British Library

Boston Spa

Wetherby

West Yorkshire

LS23 7BY

 

Tel: +44(0)1937 546669

mobile: 07833401117

 

 

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Yan Lee
Sent: 21 October 2013 05:20
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] Proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG

 

Dear Judy Kuhagen,

May I know what's going on about the proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG? Is there 
any discussion paper on this?

Proposal: No fixed order should be imposed upon the combination of an author’s 
name and the title of a Work. (RDA issues for discussion by EURIG, January 16, 
2012)

Thanks.

Best Regards,

Yan

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 8:19 PM, JSC Secretary jscsecret...@rdatoolkit.org 
wrote:

The discussion paper listed below for the November 2013 JSC meeting is 
available on the public website (http://www.rda-jsc.org/workingnew.html); 
written responses are not required.

6JSC/Chair/9  [Element Set Discussion (Notes on, Details of, Source 
Consulted, etc.)]



Regards, Judy Kuhagen

JSC Secretary




-- 
Yan Yi Lee
Systems Librarian
Wagner College Library
(718) 420-4219 



Re: [RDA-L] Proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG

2013-10-21 Thread Yan Lee
Dear Alan,

Thank you so much for all the info.

Best Regards,
Yan


On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 5:08 AM, Danskin, Alan alan.dans...@bl.uk wrote:

 Dear Yan,

 ** **

 I will take the liberty of stepping in and responding to this, as Judy may
 not be aware of the background to your enquiry.

 ** **

 The issue you refer to was one of several identified by the Technical
 Group on the adoption of RDA in France.  Many of the issues identified by
 this group were discussed by EURIG (the European RDA Interest Group) at the
 EURIG Technical Meeting, hosted by BNF, in Paris on 27 January 2012.

 ** **

 There was a consensus at the meeting that it would be desirable for RDA to
 provide alternative instructions that would not mandate any particular
 order of elements when constructing an access point.  However, EURIG has
 not prioritised this work and no proposal has been put to JSC and none is
 currently planned.

 ** **

 Kind regards,

 ** **

 Alan

 ** **

 ** **

 Alan Danskin

 Vice-Chair EURIG

 British Library Representative to JSC

 British Library

 Boston Spa

 Wetherby

 West Yorkshire

 LS23 7BY

 ** **

 Tel: +44(0)1937 546669

 mobile: 07833401117

 ** **

 

 ** **

 *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
 [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Yan Lee
 *Sent:* 21 October 2013 05:20
 *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
 *Subject:* [RDA-L] Proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG

 ** **

 Dear Judy Kuhagen,

 May I know what's going on about the proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG? Is
 there any discussion paper on this?

 Proposal: No fixed order should be imposed upon the combination of an
 author’s name and the title of a Work. (RDA issues for discussion by EURIG,
 January 16, 2012)

 Thanks.

 Best Regards,

 Yan

 ** **

 On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 8:19 PM, JSC Secretary 
 jscsecret...@rdatoolkit.org wrote:

 The discussion paper listed below for the November 2013 JSC meeting is
 available on the public website (http://www.rda-jsc.org/workingnew.html);
 written responses are not required.

 6JSC/Chair/9  [Element Set Discussion (Notes on, Details of, Source
 Consulted, etc.)]

 

 Regards, Judy Kuhagen

 JSC Secretary




 --
 Yan Yi Lee
 Systems Librarian
 Wagner College Library
 (718) 420-4219 




-- 
Yan Yi Lee
Systems Librarian
Wagner College Library
(718) 420-4219


Re: [RDA-L] Proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG

2013-10-21 Thread Jack Wu
While unrelated to this particular inquiry, I'm ashamed to admit, while
up to date on other messages on this list, I can't say the same for the
JSC working documents.They frequently got left behind, not because of
their lack of importance, but most got left behind for another day which
never comes, on account of more mundane, but immediate cataloging
matters. 
So my general question is. Is there another way to keep up with the
changes? RDA Toolkit seems little help unless you read the entire kit
every so often, clearly not practical. Discussions on this list seem to
be the next best alternative. Is there a summary every so often of
changes of any consequence that one should be aware of?
 
Jack
 
Jack Wu
Franciscan University of Steubenville
j...@franciscan.edu 


 Danskin, Alan alan.dans...@bl.uk 10/21/2013 5:08 AM 

Dear Yan,
 
I will take the liberty of stepping in and responding to this, as Judy
may not be aware of the background to your enquiry.
 
The issue you refer to was one of several identified by the Technical
Group on the adoption of RDA in France.  Many of the issues identified
by this group were discussed by EURIG (the European RDA Interest Group)
at the EURIG Technical Meeting, hosted by BNF, in Paris on 27 January
2012.
 
There was a consensus at the meeting that it would be desirable for RDA
to provide alternative instructions that would not mandate any
particular order of elements when constructing an access point. 
However, EURIG has not prioritised this work and no proposal has been
put to JSC and none is currently planned.
 
Kind regards,
 
Alan
 
 
Alan Danskin
Vice-Chair EURIG
British Library Representative to JSC
British Library
Boston Spa
Wetherby
West Yorkshire
LS23 7BY
 
Tel: +44(0)1937 546669
mobile: 07833401117
 

 
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Yan Lee
Sent: 21 October 2013 05:20
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] Proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG
 

Dear Judy Kuhagen,

May I know what's going on about the proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG? Is
there any discussion paper on this?

Proposal: No fixed order should be imposed upon the combination of an
author’s name and the title of a Work. (RDA issues for discussion by
EURIG, January 16, 2012)

Thanks.

Best Regards,

Yan

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 8:19 PM, JSC Secretary
jscsecret...@rdatoolkit.org wrote:

The discussion paper listed below for the November 2013 JSC meeting is
available on the public website
(http://www.rda-jsc.org/workingnew.html); written responses are not
required.

6JSC/Chair/9  [Element Set Discussion (Notes on, Details of, Source
Consulted, etc.)]


Regards, Judy Kuhagen

JSC Secretary




-- 
Yan Yi Lee
Systems Librarian
Wagner College Library
(718) 420-4219 

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Re: [RDA-L] Proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG

2013-10-21 Thread Gene Fieg
Wouldn't these discussions be on the JSC website?

On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Jack Wu j...@franciscan.edu wrote:

  While unrelated to this particular inquiry, I'm ashamed to admit,
 while up to date on other messages on this list, I can't say the same for
 the JSC working documents.They frequently got left behind, not because of
 their lack of importance, but most got left behind for another day which
 never comes, on account of more mundane, but immediate cataloging matters.
 So my general question is. Is there another way to keep up with the
 changes? RDA Toolkit seems little help unless you read the entire kit every
 so often, clearly not practical. Discussions on this list seem to be the
 next best alternative. Is there a summary every so often of changes of any
 consequence that one should be aware of?

 Jack

 Jack Wu
 Franciscan University of Steubenville
 j...@franciscan.edu


  Danskin, Alan alan.dans...@bl.uk 10/21/2013 5:08 AM 

  Dear Yan,

 ** **

 I will take the liberty of stepping in and responding to this, as Judy may
 not be aware of the background to your enquiry.

 ** **

 The issue you refer to was one of several identified by the Technical
 Group on the adoption of RDA in France.  Many of the issues identified by
 this group were discussed by EURIG (the European RDA Interest Group) at the
 EURIG Technical Meeting, hosted by BNF, in Paris on 27 January 2012.

 ** **

 There was a consensus at the meeting that it would be desirable for RDA to
 provide alternative instructions that would not mandate any particular
 order of elements when constructing an access point.  However, EURIG has
 not prioritised this work and no proposal has been put to JSC and none is
 currently planned.

 ** **

 Kind regards,

 ** **

 Alan

 ** **

 ** **

 Alan Danskin

 Vice-Chair EURIG

 British Library Representative to JSC

 British Library

 Boston Spa

 Wetherby

 West Yorkshire

 LS23 7BY

 ** **

 Tel: +44(0)1937 546669

 mobile: 07833401117

 ** **

 

 ** **

 *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
 [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Yan Lee
 *Sent:* 21 October 2013 05:20
 *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
 *Subject:* [RDA-L] Proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG

 ** **

 Dear Judy Kuhagen,

 May I know what's going on about the proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG? Is
 there any discussion paper on this?

 Proposal: No fixed order should be imposed upon the combination of an
 author’s name and the title of a Work. (RDA issues for discussion by EURIG,
 January 16, 2012)

 Thanks.

 Best Regards,

 Yan

 ** **

 On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 8:19 PM, JSC Secretary 
 jscsecret...@rdatoolkit.org wrote:

 The discussion paper listed below for the November 2013 JSC meeting is
 available on the public website (http://www.rda-jsc.org/workingnew.html);
 written responses are not required.

 6JSC/Chair/9  [Element Set Discussion (Notes on, Details of, Source
 Consulted, etc.)]

 

 Regards, Judy Kuhagen

 JSC Secretary




 --
 Yan Yi Lee
 Systems Librarian
 Wagner College Library
 (718) 420-4219 

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Re: [RDA-L] Proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG

2013-10-21 Thread JOHN C ATTIG
All the working documents are listed on the JSC website. Each announcement 
contains the following URL: 

http://www.rda-jsc.org/workingnew.html 

This page lists all the working documents in reverse chronological order. 

John Attig 
Authority Control Librarian 
Penn State University 
jx...@psu.edu 

- Original Message -

| From: Jack Wu j...@franciscan.edu
| To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
| Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 10:01:18 AM
| Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG

| While unrelated to this particular inquiry, I'm ashamed to admit, while up to
| date on other messages on this list, I can't say the same for the JSC
| working documents.They frequently got left behind, not because of their lack
| of importance, but most got left behind for another day which never comes,
| on account of more mundane, but immediate cataloging matters.
| So my general question is. Is there another way to keep up with the changes?
| RDA Toolkit seems little help unless you read the entire kit every so often,
| clearly not practical. Discussions on this list seem to be the next best
| alternative. Is there a summary every so often of changes of any consequence
| that one should be aware of?
| Jack
| Jack Wu
| Franciscan University of Steubenville
| j...@franciscan.edu

|  Danskin, Alan alan.dans...@bl.uk 10/21/2013 5:08 AM 

| Dear Yan,

| I will take the liberty of stepping in and responding to this, as Judy may
| not be aware of the background to your enquiry.

| The issue you refer to was one of several identified by the Technical Group
| on the adoption of RDA in France. Many of the issues identified by this
| group were discussed by EURIG (the European RDA Interest Group) at the EURIG
| Technical Meeting, hosted by BNF, in Paris on 27 January 2012.

| There was a consensus at the meeting that it would be desirable for RDA to
| provide alternative instructions that would not mandate any particular order
| of elements when constructing an access point. However, EURIG has not
| prioritised this work and no proposal has been put to JSC and none is
| currently planned.

| Kind regards,

| Alan

| Alan Danskin

| Vice-Chair EURIG

| British Library Representative to JSC

| British Library

| Boston Spa

| Wetherby

| West Yorkshire

| LS23 7BY

| Tel: +44(0)1937 546669

| mobile: 07833401117

| From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
| [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Yan Lee
| Sent: 21 October 2013 05:20
| To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
| Subject: [RDA-L] Proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG

| Dear Judy Kuhagen,

| May I know what's going on about the proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG? Is there
| any discussion paper on this?

| Proposal: No fixed order should be imposed upon the combination of an
| author’s name and the title of a Work. (RDA issues for discussion by EURIG,
| January 16, 2012)

| Thanks.

| Best Regards,

| Yan

| On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 8:19 PM, JSC Secretary  jscsecret...@rdatoolkit.org
|  wrote:

| The discussion paper listed below for the November 2013 JSC meeting is
| available on the public website ( http://www.rda-jsc.org/workingnew.html );
| written responses are not required.

| 6JSC/Chair/9 [Element Set Discussion (Notes on, Details of, Source
| Consulted, etc.)]

| Regards, Judy Kuhagen

| JSC Secretary

| --
| Yan Yi Lee
| Systems Librarian
| Wagner College Library
| (718) 420-4219

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Re: [RDA-L] Proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG

2013-10-21 Thread Jack Wu
Yes, these discussions, over 500 lengthy ones, certainly are on the JSC
website. But I was hoping for something more summarizing in nature, yet
not so brief as just a listing by date of the documents.
 
Jack
 
Jack Wu
Franciscan University of Steubenville
j...@franciscan.edu
  

 Gene Fieg gf...@cst.edu 10/21/2013 11:05 AM 
Wouldn't these discussions be on the JSC website?

On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Jack Wu j...@franciscan.edu wrote:


While unrelated to this particular inquiry, I'm ashamed to admit, while
up to date on other messages on this list, I can't say the same for the
JSC working documents.They frequently got left behind, not because of
their lack of importance, but most got left behind for another day which
never comes, on account of more mundane, but immediate cataloging
matters. 
So my general question is. Is there another way to keep up with the
changes? RDA Toolkit seems little help unless you read the entire kit
every so often, clearly not practical. Discussions on this list seem to
be the next best alternative. Is there a summary every so often of
changes of any consequence that one should be aware of?
Jack
Jack Wu
Franciscan University of Steubenville
j...@franciscan.edu 


 Danskin, Alan alan.dans...@bl.uk 10/21/2013 5:08 AM  


Dear Yan,

I will take the liberty of stepping in and responding to this, as Judy
may not be aware of the background to your enquiry.

The issue you refer to was one of several identified by the Technical
Group on the adoption of RDA in France. Many of the issues identified by
this group were discussed by EURIG (the European RDA Interest Group) at
the EURIG Technical Meeting, hosted by BNF, in Paris on 27 January
2012.

There was a consensus at the meeting that it would be desirable for RDA
to provide alternative instructions that would not mandate any
particular order of elements when constructing an access point. However,
EURIG has not prioritised this work and no proposal has been put to JSC
and none is currently planned.

Kind regards,

Alan


Alan Danskin
Vice-Chair EURIG
British Library Representative to JSC
British Library
Boston Spa
Wetherby
West Yorkshire
LS23 7BY

Tel: +44(0)1937 546669
( tel:%2B44%280%291937%20546669) 
mobile: 07833401117



From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Yan Lee
Sent: 21 October 2013 05:20
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] Proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG


Dear Judy Kuhagen,

May I know what's going on about the proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG? Is
there any discussion paper on this?

Proposal: No fixed order should be imposed upon the combination of an
author’s name and the title of a Work. (RDA issues for discussion by
EURIG, January 16, 2012)

Thanks.

Best Regards,

Yan



On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 8:19 PM, JSC Secretary
jscsecret...@rdatoolkit.org wrote:

The discussion paper listed below for the November 2013 JSC meeting is
available on the public website
(http://www.rda-jsc.org/workingnew.html); written responses are not
required.

6JSC/Chair/9 [Element Set Discussion (Notes on, Details of, Source
Consulted, etc.)]



Regards, Judy Kuhagen

JSC Secretary




-- 
Yan Yi Lee
Systems Librarian
Wagner College Library
(718) 420-4219
( tel:%28718%29%20420-4219)  

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Re: [RDA-L] Proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG

2013-10-21 Thread Jenifer K Marquardt
I agree with Jack.  A document summarizing decisions would be very helpful.  
There is just no keeping up with all of the JSC website documentation, and 
something that pulled together decisions that change or add to practice would 
be a real service to the community.  Perhaps from now on each document could 
have a short abstract with a subject line that could be extracted to a more 
general document for a general readership group.

Thanks!

Jenifer

Jenifer K. Marquardt
Asst. Head of Cataloging  Authorities Librarian
University of Georgia
Athens, GA 30602-1641


From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] on behalf of Jack Wu [j...@franciscan.edu]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 11:23 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG

Yes, these discussions, over 500 lengthy ones, certainly are on the JSC 
website. But I was hoping for something more summarizing in nature, yet not so 
brief as just a listing by date of the documents.

Jack

Jack Wu
Franciscan University of Steubenville
j...@franciscan.edumailto:j...@franciscan.edu


 Gene Fieg gf...@cst.edu 10/21/2013 11:05 AM 
Wouldn't these discussions be on the JSC website?

On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Jack Wu 
j...@franciscan.edumailto:j...@franciscan.edu wrote:
While unrelated to this particular inquiry, I'm ashamed to admit, while up to 
date on other messages on this list, I can't say the same for the JSC working 
documents.They frequently got left behind, not because of their lack of 
importance, but most got left behind for another day which never comes, on 
account of more mundane, but immediate cataloging matters.
So my general question is. Is there another way to keep up with the changes? 
RDA Toolkit seems little help unless you read the entire kit every so often, 
clearly not practical. Discussions on this list seem to be the next best 
alternative. Is there a summary every so often of changes of any consequence 
that one should be aware of?
Jack
Jack Wu
Franciscan University of Steubenville
j...@franciscan.edumailto:j...@franciscan.edu


 Danskin, Alan alan.dans...@bl.ukmailto:alan.dans...@bl.uk 10/21/2013 
 5:08 AM 

Dear Yan,
I will take the liberty of stepping in and responding to this, as Judy may not 
be aware of the background to your enquiry.
The issue you refer to was one of several identified by the Technical Group on 
the adoption of RDA in France. Many of the issues identified by this group were 
discussed by EURIG (the European RDA Interest Group) at the EURIG Technical 
Meeting, hosted by BNF, in Paris on 27 January 2012.
There was a consensus at the meeting that it would be desirable for RDA to 
provide alternative instructions that would not mandate any particular order of 
elements when constructing an access point. However, EURIG has not prioritised 
this work and no proposal has been put to JSC and none is currently planned.
Kind regards,
Alan
Alan Danskin
Vice-Chair EURIG
British Library Representative to JSC
British Library
Boston Spa
Wetherby
West Yorkshire
LS23 7BY
Tel: +44(0)1937 546669tel:%2B44%280%291937%20546669
mobile: 07833401117
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CAmailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On 
Behalf Of Yan Lee
Sent: 21 October 2013 05:20
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CAmailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] Proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG
Dear Judy Kuhagen,
May I know what's going on about the proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG? Is there 
any discussion paper on this?
Proposal: No fixed order should be imposed upon the combination of an author’s 
name and the title of a Work. (RDA issues for discussion by EURIG, January 16, 
2012)
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Yan
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 8:19 PM, JSC Secretary 
jscsecret...@rdatoolkit.orgmailto:jscsecret...@rdatoolkit.org wrote:
The discussion paper listed below for the November 2013 JSC meeting is 
available on the public website (http://www.rda-jsc.org/workingnew.html); 
written responses are not required.

6JSC/Chair/9 [Element Set Discussion (Notes on, Details of, Source 
Consulted, etc.)]

Regards, Judy Kuhagen
JSC Secretary



--
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Systems Librarian
Wagner College Library
(718) 420-4219tel:%28718%29%20420-4219


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Re: [RDA-L] Proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG

2013-10-21 Thread Yan Lee
Yes, I agree with Jack and Jenifer.

I did checked the site http://www.rda-jsc.org/workingnew.html, and opened
all documents named JSC/EURIG/Discussion... since Feb 2012, one by one, but
didn't see any one dealing with the proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG. I
thought it may hide somewhere. That's why I sent the inquiry.

Yan


On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Jenifer K Marquardt j...@uga.edu wrote:

 I agree with Jack.  A document summarizing decisions would be very
 helpful.  There is just no keeping up with all of the JSC website
 documentation, and something that pulled together decisions that change or
 add to practice would be a real service to the community.  Perhaps from now
 on each document could have a short abstract with a subject line that could
 be extracted to a more general document for a general readership group.

 Thanks!

 Jenifer

 Jenifer K. Marquardt
 Asst. Head of Cataloging  Authorities Librarian
 University of Georgia
 Athens, GA 30602-1641

 
 From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [
 RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] on behalf of Jack Wu [j...@franciscan.edu]
 Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 11:23 AM
 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
 Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG

 Yes, these discussions, over 500 lengthy ones, certainly are on the JSC
 website. But I was hoping for something more summarizing in nature, yet not
 so brief as just a listing by date of the documents.

 Jack

 Jack Wu
 Franciscan University of Steubenville
 j...@franciscan.edumailto:j...@franciscan.edu


  Gene Fieg gf...@cst.edu 10/21/2013 11:05 AM 
 Wouldn't these discussions be on the JSC website?

 On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Jack Wu j...@franciscan.edumailto:
 j...@franciscan.edu wrote:
 While unrelated to this particular inquiry, I'm ashamed to admit, while up
 to date on other messages on this list, I can't say the same for the JSC
 working documents.They frequently got left behind, not because of their
 lack of importance, but most got left behind for another day which never
 comes, on account of more mundane, but immediate cataloging matters.
 So my general question is. Is there another way to keep up with the
 changes? RDA Toolkit seems little help unless you read the entire kit every
 so often, clearly not practical. Discussions on this list seem to be the
 next best alternative. Is there a summary every so often of changes of any
 consequence that one should be aware of?
 Jack
 Jack Wu
 Franciscan University of Steubenville
 j...@franciscan.edumailto:j...@franciscan.edu


  Danskin, Alan alan.dans...@bl.ukmailto:alan.dans...@bl.uk
 10/21/2013 5:08 AM 

 Dear Yan,
 I will take the liberty of stepping in and responding to this, as Judy may
 not be aware of the background to your enquiry.
 The issue you refer to was one of several identified by the Technical
 Group on the adoption of RDA in France. Many of the issues identified by
 this group were discussed by EURIG (the European RDA Interest Group) at the
 EURIG Technical Meeting, hosted by BNF, in Paris on 27 January 2012.
 There was a consensus at the meeting that it would be desirable for RDA to
 provide alternative instructions that would not mandate any particular
 order of elements when constructing an access point. However, EURIG has not
 prioritised this work and no proposal has been put to JSC and none is
 currently planned.
 Kind regards,
 Alan
 Alan Danskin
 Vice-Chair EURIG
 British Library Representative to JSC
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 [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CAmailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA]
 On Behalf Of Yan Lee
 Sent: 21 October 2013 05:20
 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CAmailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
 Subject: [RDA-L] Proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG
 Dear Judy Kuhagen,
 May I know what's going on about the proposal to RDA 5.1.4 by EURIG? Is
 there any discussion paper on this?
 Proposal: No fixed order should be imposed upon the combination of an
 author’s name and the title of a Work. (RDA issues for discussion by EURIG,
 January 16, 2012)
 Thanks.
 Best Regards,
 Yan
 On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 8:19 PM, JSC Secretary 
 jscsecret...@rdatoolkit.orgmailto:jscsecret...@rdatoolkit.org wrote:
 The discussion paper listed below for the November 2013 JSC meeting is
 available on the public website (http://www.rda-jsc.org/workingnew.html);
 written responses are not required.

 6JSC/Chair/9 [Element Set Discussion (Notes on, Details of, Source
 Consulted, etc.)]

 Regards, Judy Kuhagen
 JSC Secretary



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