Re: [RE-wrenches] PSR SCT
Todd Cory Hi Folks, It's been a long time but when I called in to what was then Trace, the answer I got for cracked spill containment trays was to use green toy army soldiers, like would be in your kid's toy box, to melt and bridge the crack. It worked. However, the trays should not have cracked. Bill Loesch Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar 314 631 1094 - Original Message - From: Christopher Freitas To: RE-wrenches Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PSR SCT Hey Todd ? The company we used to make the spill containment trays has been having severe delivery and quality problems for a long time and we unfortunately had to just drop the product. We had a lot of problems with the plastic being too fragile due to the thin wall thickness used. It needs a complete redesign and possibly different material. My favorite solution is to use before we offered the spill containment trays was using EPDM type rubber pond liner sheet and just folding the corners (sort of like wrapping a Christmas presents) inside of the enclosure. The upper edges can be screwed or stapled to the sides to keep it from sliding down ? although if the liner is heavy enough its not really an issue. I hope this helps! Christopher Christopher Freitas Director of Research and Development OutBack Power Systems, Inc. cfrei...@outbackpower.com Tel 360 435 6030 Cell 360 202 4239 19009 62nd Ave NE Arlington WA 98223 USA www.outbackpower.com -- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Todd Cory Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:17 AM To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: [RE-wrenches] PSR SCT I was just informed I can no longer get the Outback PSR-SCT (spill containment tray). What are others using in their battery boxes for spill containment? Todd -- Todd Cory KE6SXS toddc...@finestplanet.com Mt. Shasta Energy Services License C-10 #811428 P.O. Box 689 Mt. Shasta, CA. 96067 (530) 926-1079 “I'd put my money on solar energy...I hope we don't have to wait till oil and coal run out before we tackle that. ∞ Thomas Edison, in conversation with Henry Ford and Harvey Firestone, March 1931 MESSAGE CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communication Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. sections 2510-2521, is confidential, and may also be protected by attorney-client or other privilege. If you believe that it has been sent to you in error, please do not read it. If you are not the intended recipient,you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you have received the message in error, then delete it. Thank you. --___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org --No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] PSR SCT
If anyone has any of these PSR-SCT's in stock still and wants to sell them to me (off list) please contact me. Todd penobscotso...@midmaine.com wrote: Hi Todd and all, We use products from US Plastics. They make great, acid resistant trays in lengths up to four feet. Here's the link to a page where you can find some of their products. They have an extensive website, so look around a bit. You can spend a lot ($300+) or a little, depending on what you need. I have been using them for years with no issues. One note, be sure to get the measurements of the bottom, not the top rim as the walls typically flare out and the given dimensions can differ from the actual footprint. http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/product.asp?catalog_name=USPlasticcategory_name=97product_id=3448 Daryl DeJoy NABCEP Certified PV installer Penobscot Solar Design Hey Todd - The company we used to make the spill containment trays has been having severe delivery and quality problems for a long time and we unfortunately had to just drop the product. We had a lot of problems with the plastic being too fragile due to the thin wall thickness used. It needs a complete redesign and possibly different material. My favorite solution is to use before we offered the spill containment trays was using EPDM type rubber pond liner sheet and just folding the corners (sort of like wrapping a Christmas presents) inside of the enclosure. The upper edges can be screwed or stapled to the sides to keep it from sliding down - although if the liner is heavy enough its not really an issue. I hope this helps! Christopher Christopher Freitas ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] outback off grid monitoring
Hi All, I'm looking into my options about monitoring and control of a large remote Outback off-grid system. System will already have satellite internet wireless access. Wondering what my options are and who likes what. The ones I've found are Righthand Engineering Fat Spaniel thanks, jay peltz power ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] outback off grid monitoring
Hi Jay, I have been using Wattplot for a few years and have seen it grow into a great product for remote Outback systems. http://www.wattplot.com/wattplot.htm You need to have a computer on site or use a $100 RS-232 (from Mate) to IP converter. This IP converter draws about 5 watts and allows data collection every second from the Mate to any place off site with an Internet connection. I monitor 4 remote systems on my office PC (not for Macs though). It can provide email notifications, daily kwh's, aux usage, etc, Pen plots are great to pin point when some event occurred, and all warnings and error codes are recorded, and can be emailed. All files can be exported and read in Excel. Every port gets it's own screen line showing all important info such as Battery Voltage, AC In/Out charging modes, battery temp etc. It has become a great tool on my laptop to calibrate the voltages from every FX or FM's on large systems. My experience with satellite Internet is between the FAP (fair access policy) restricting bandwidth and what they charge to get a static IP, it might be better to have a laptop on site and install the Wattplot on it, and have it do email reports whenever you would like. The Asus Eee PC with a 10 screen is the most efficient laptop I have found for this type of setup, but it needs to have Windows and not Linux. Feel free to contact me off list. Best, Jason Lerner Waldron Power and LIght Co. (888) 927-2526 On Dec 14, 2008, at 3:20 PM, jay peltz wrote: Hi All, I'm looking into my options about monitoring and control of a large remote Outback off-grid system. System will already have satellite internet wireless access. Wondering what my options are and who likes what. The ones I've found are Righthand Engineering Fat Spaniel thanks, jay peltz power ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Outback PSR-SCT
Todd et.al. Look in the yellow pages for a manufacturer of Prototype Injection Molds. These guys are set up to manufacturer short runs of molded plastic parts. They often use the vacuum-form process to make simple plastic shapes, usually not close tolerance pieces. A battery tray would be a perfect job and built exactly to your specs. If you use a lot of the same size cells, you may want to consider a single or double tray-per-cells arrangement. The initial setup cost will be lower for a small tray, say 9 X 14, and by buying a lot of them, the mold-maker is happy to give a lower unit cost and will spend less time on the setup. As always, any molded part will be tapered so start big with your dimensions and go smaller. It's a lot easier to take a little material off the sides of the mold core compared to putting it back on. Jim Duncan North Texas Renewable Energy Inc 817.917.0527 nt...@earthlink.net www.ntrei.com I was just informed I can no longer get the Outback PSR-SCT (spill containment tray). What are others using in their battery boxes for spill containment? Todd -- ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Mates Losing time dates
hi Tump,
There was a recall of the Flexnets due to them reseting at the end of
the month, could it be that?
The main thing Ive had is the control of the AGS goes bad for some
reason. I have had no luck with reseting them, so I just replace
them and send the old ones back for reprograming.
jay
peltz power
On Dec 14, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Tump wrote:
LGs (ladies gentlemen)I have a quad stack OB system w/ flex net
DCCA a mate 2. The Mate will lose the time date settings
repeatedly within a day or 2 of resetting it. I'm not on site, so
I'm not sure IF all of the other settings get lost (I think not).
Question; anybody seen this happening? Mate 2 is June of 08.
batteries are fully charged when DCCA is connected. Any ideas?
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[RE-wrenches] Flex Max 60 question
I am doing an upgrade at a site with 16, 53 watt panels wired into 2 strings of 8 panels each coming into the controller at around 53 or so volts. The upgrade is 8, 175 watt Solar Worlds at around 70 volts. Here is the question the customer is telling me that he has seen the old rack putting out more power than the new rack that is almost 2 X the size. Both are side by side and nearly the same tilt, shading is not a problem and the 60's were bought at the same time. I have never seen this happen at the times I am on the site. Has anyone else seen any weird problems like this? I have other sites with 2 or 3 flexmax 60's and this has never been noticed before at those sites. I don't have any confirmation of this and have not called Outback about it. Just picking the collective brains so to speak.. Thanks, Bob ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Flex Max 60 question
Something in your description doesn't jive, Bob...53W panels are most likely 12V nominal, such as Solarex VLX53; typical poly 12V, so 17 VMP - a string of 8 would be 136V; why are you claiming 53V? Is it 4 strings of 4 modules each? Allan -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of robert ellison Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 9:31 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Flex Max 60 question I am doing an upgrade at a site with 16, 53 watt panels wired into 2 strings of 8 panels each coming into the controller at around 53 or so volts. The upgrade is 8, 175 watt Solar Worlds at around 70 volts. Here is the question the customer is telling me that he has seen the old rack putting out more power than the new rack that is almost 2 X the size. Both are side by side and nearly the same tilt, shading is not a problem and the 60's were bought at the same time. I have never seen this happen at the times I am on the site. Has anyone else seen any weird problems like this? I have other sites with 2 or 3 flexmax 60's and this has never been noticed before at those sites. I don't have any confirmation of this and have not called Outback about it. Just picking the collective brains so to speak.. Thanks, Bob ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
