Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Recombiner

[Solar]

My students we just today complaining about the access to wires on the panel 
mount breakers. The lug idea with separators might be a fix. It definitely 
needs to be done differently. In class We added another inverter to our package 
and trying to install another 175A breaker was a pain. We have a few other DC 
breakers in there already. The whole cabinet is basically inaccessible. 

Jesse Dahl

NABCEP PV Installation Professional
IBEW Local 292 - Electrician 
Electrical/Solar PV Instructor - HCC

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> On Oct 10, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Jerry Shafer  wrote:
> 
> You might want to look at the square D QO breaker line some are dc rated and 
> voltage rated and are panel mounted.
> Jerry
> 
> 
>> On Oct 10, 2016 3:00 PM, "jay"  wrote:
>> I”ll chime in here.
>> 
>> Yes the GSLC is a piece of junk.  
>> However it is UL listed for the job. And while you could put together 
>> something that would work with Airpax breakers together, but it wouldn’t be 
>> UL.
>> 
>> What I do is to swap out all the wires to Arctic ultra flex.  This allows 
>> much better movement of the wires with significantly less stress on the 
>> terminals.   And if you want to not attach wires to the back of the breakers 
>> then you can and I’ve seen outback do it, install lay in lugs facing 
>> outwards so you can use a screwdriver or allen key on them.  Allows for 
>> installation and removal of wire without removal of the breaker or the 
>> plate/breakers.  With thimbles of course. And I can’t find them but I know 
>> they make them, shields that fit between each breaker so the lay in lugs are 
>> insulated.
>> 
>> jay
>> peltz power
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 10, 2016, at 4:40 PM, William Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Chris:
>>>  
>>> Thank you for the reply.  I think you misunderstand me.  We always use the 
>>> GSLC cabinets.  I just don’t like the design concept that clutters the 
>>> cabinet with AC and DC breakers that are difficult to access and block 
>>> other components.  See photo below of a prewired GSLC Cabinet we were asked 
>>> to work in.  Not a good scenario.
>>>  
>>> We have created an installation standard using the GSLC that minimizes the 
>>> problems inherent with the design.  We run all AC leads to adjacent load 
>>> centers and we try to minimize the DC breakers in the cabinet.  It is our 
>>> goal to completely eliminate all breakers from the removable dead-front.  I 
>>> think it is pretty self-explanatory why one would not prefer to make 
>>> connections in a hard to reach location. 
>>>  
>>> Our goal is to constantly improve our installation procedures to create 
>>> better, safer and more efficient installations.  
>>>  
>>> Also, I don’t need someone to instruct me on how to make a “finished” 
>>> looking install. If you are familiar with my work you know it is as clean 
>>> as it gets.  Review my web site.  Below is but one example of one of our 
>>> installs.
>>>  
>>> And lastly, “suck it up” is not a very complimentary phrase.  Please, let’s 
>>> keep it professional.
>>>  
>>> Sincerely,
>>>  
>>> William Miller
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Figure 1 Factory wired GSLC
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Figure 2 Miller Solar installed GSLC..
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Lic 773985
>>> millersolar.com
>>> 805-438-5600
>>>  
>>> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Chris Mason
>>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 3:40 PM
>>> To: RE-wrenches 
>>> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Recombiner
>>>  
>>> The GSLC gives the system a nice finished appearance that the customer will 
>>> understand. Suck it up and live with the imperfect world we function in. 
>>>  
 On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 5:55 PM, William Miller  
 wrote:
 Friends:
  
 I am looking for a PV recombiner.  I need to accept the outputs from 3 
 remote PV Combiners, send those outputs through GFP circuit breakers, into 
 charge controllers, back thorough breaker, into a bus bar, through a main 
 breaker and onto a large battery bank.
  
 I am using 2 Outback Radian inverters, but I refuse to install DC breakers 
 on their dead-front because wiring to studs facing away from the front is 
 an inferior design.  Furthermore, I see no need to run PV circuits through 
 the GSLC cabinets.
  
 I looked at the Midnite MNDC15 but again, these use panel mounted breakers 
 with studs on the back.
  
 Anyone know of a more thoughtfully designed PV recombiner?
  
 Thanks in advance,
  
 William Miller
  
  
 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Recombiner

[Ray Walters]

This thread actually brings up issues I've struggled with for years too.
 QOs are really not good for over 50 v.  The panel mount QOUs are 
really expensive and special order.  I believe they're only good to 125 
vdc, so that not much help with higher voltage arrays.
There are much better breakers available for DC now.  The problem is 
mounting them.
 Panel mount DC breakers are a PITA to wire blind, but that's how most 
enclosures like Outback's work.  This isn't just an installers whining 
either,  I have a repair call right now from a loose rear breaker 
connection from another installer.  It charred the wire for 6" and 
melted the breaker.
Midnite usually saves the day on stuff like this, but their Mini and 
Quad boxes are too small for wire over #6, and I just can't recommend 
the MNDC 15, because again, its just to tight and hard to access the 
breaker rear connections. Their Mini DC box is decent, and mounts the 
post style breakers sideways for better access.  I use it for many more 
custom things.  I also use their MNPV 6 combiner as an indoor DC load 
center.  I don't like the plastic front,  but its the right size and can 
mount most DIN rail breakers.
I still dream of a DC box the size of the MNPV 6 or QO 6 circuit load 
center that mounted DIN rail on the front with a metal cover plate, and 
mounted the panel mount breakers on the sides.  Seems like a simple 
enough concept, but no one will build it.
I would use it for DC distribution, but primarily as WIlliam's need: a 
recombiner for in and out for several Charge controllers.


R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760

On 10/10/2016 8:40 PM, Jerry Shafer wrote:


You might want to look at the square D QO breaker line some are dc 
rated and voltage rated and are panel mounted.

Jerry


On Oct 10, 2016 3:00 PM, "jay" > wrote:


I”ll chime in here.

Yes the GSLC is a piece of junk.
However it is UL listed for the job. And while you could put
together something that would work with Airpax breakers together,
but it wouldn’t be UL.

What I do is to swap out all the wires to Arctic ultra flex.  This
allows much better movement of the wires with significantly less
stress on the terminals. And if you want to not attach wires to
the back of the breakers then you can and I’ve seen outback do it,
install lay in lugs facing outwards so you can use a screwdriver
or allen key on them.  Allows for installation and removal of wire
without removal of the breaker or the plate/breakers.  With
thimbles of course. And I can’t find them but I know they make
them, shields that fit between each breaker so the lay in lugs are
insulated.

jay
peltz power



On Oct 10, 2016, at 4:40 PM, William Miller
> wrote:

Chris:

Thank you for the reply.  I think you misunderstand me.  We
always use the GSLC cabinets.  I just don’t like the design
concept that clutters the cabinet with AC and DC breakers that
are difficult to access and block other components.  See photo
below of a prewired GSLC Cabinet we were asked to work in.  Not a
good scenario.

We have created an installation standard using the GSLC that
minimizes the problems inherent with the design.  We run all AC
leads to adjacent load centers and we try to minimize the DC
breakers in the cabinet.  It is our goal to completely eliminate
all breakers from the removable dead-front.  I think it is pretty
self-explanatory why one would not prefer to make connections in
a hard to reach location.

Our goal is to constantly improve our installation procedures to
create better, safer and more efficient installations.

Also, I don’t need someone to instruct me on how to make a
“finished” looking install. If you are familiar with my work you
know it is as clean as it gets.  Review my web site. Below is but
one example of one of our installs.

And lastly, “suck it up” is not a very complimentary phrase. 
Please, let’s keep it professional.


Sincerely,

William Miller



Figure 1 Factory wired GSLC



Figure 2 Miller Solar installed GSLC..


Lic 773985
millersolar.com 
805-438-5600 

*From:*RE-wrenches
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
]*On Behalf
Of*Chris Mason
*Sent:*Monday, October 10, 2016 3:40 PM
*To:*RE-wrenches >
*Subject:*Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Recombiner

The GSLC gives the system a nice finished appearance that the
customer will understand. Suck it up and live with the imperfect
world we function in.

On Mon, Oct 

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Recombiner

[Jason Lerner]

Hello William,

How about using an Outback Flexware 500/1000 AC circuit breaker box with DC 
rated DIN rail mounted breakers?  The Main breaker might need to live in the 
GSLC though…..

Best,

Jason Lerner

Waldron Power and Light Co.

> On Oct 10, 2016, at 2:55 PM, William Miller  wrote:
> 
> Friends:
>  
> I am looking for a PV recombiner.  I need to accept the outputs from 3 remote 
> PV Combiners, send those outputs through GFP circuit breakers, into charge 
> controllers, back thorough breaker, into a bus bar, through a main breaker 
> and onto a large battery bank.
>  
> I am using 2 Outback Radian inverters, but I refuse to install DC breakers on 
> their dead-front because wiring to studs facing away from the front is an 
> inferior design.  Furthermore, I see no need to run PV circuits through the 
> GSLC cabinets.
>  
> I looked at the Midnite MNDC15 but again, these use panel mounted breakers 
> with studs on the back.
>  
> Anyone know of a more thoughtfully designed PV recombiner?
>  
> Thanks in advance,
>  
> William Miller
>  
>  
> 
> Lic 773985
> millersolar.com 
> 805-438-5600
>  
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Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Recombiner

[Allan Sindelar]

Jerry,
I don't think that QOs or QOUs would work. I believe that all are rated 
only to 50V DC, unless that longtime dual rating has recently changed. 
As the Radian is only available in 48V, any DC conductors would exceed 
this.

Allan

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al...@sindelarsolar.com 
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional
New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician
Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc.
*505 780-2738 cell*

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On 10/10/2016 8:40 PM, Jerry Shafer wrote:


You might want to look at the square D QO breaker line some are dc 
rated and voltage rated and are panel mounted.

Jerry


On Oct 10, 2016 3:00 PM, "jay" > wrote:


I”ll chime in here.

Yes the GSLC is a piece of junk.
However it is UL listed for the job. And while you could put
together something that would work with Airpax breakers together,
but it wouldn’t be UL.

What I do is to swap out all the wires to Arctic ultra flex.  This
allows much better movement of the wires with significantly less
stress on the terminals. And if you want to not attach wires to
the back of the breakers then you can and I’ve seen outback do it,
install lay in lugs facing outwards so you can use a screwdriver
or allen key on them.  Allows for installation and removal of wire
without removal of the breaker or the plate/breakers.  With
thimbles of course. And I can’t find them but I know they make
them, shields that fit between each breaker so the lay in lugs are
insulated.

jay
peltz power



On Oct 10, 2016, at 4:40 PM, William Miller
> wrote:

Chris:

Thank you for the reply.  I think you misunderstand me.  We
always use the GSLC cabinets.  I just don’t like the design
concept that clutters the cabinet with AC and DC breakers that
are difficult to access and block other components.  See photo
below of a prewired GSLC Cabinet we were asked to work in.  Not a
good scenario.

We have created an installation standard using the GSLC that
minimizes the problems inherent with the design.  We run all AC
leads to adjacent load centers and we try to minimize the DC
breakers in the cabinet.  It is our goal to completely eliminate
all breakers from the removable dead-front.  I think it is pretty
self-explanatory why one would not prefer to make connections in
a hard to reach location.

Our goal is to constantly improve our installation procedures to
create better, safer and more efficient installations.

Also, I don’t need someone to instruct me on how to make a
“finished” looking install. If you are familiar with my work you
know it is as clean as it gets.  Review my web site. Below is but
one example of one of our installs.

And lastly, “suck it up” is not a very complimentary phrase. 
Please, let’s keep it professional.


Sincerely,

William Miller



Figure 1 Factory wired GSLC



Figure 2 Miller Solar installed GSLC..


Lic 773985
millersolar.com 
805-438-5600 

*From:*RE-wrenches
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
]*On Behalf
Of*Chris Mason
*Sent:*Monday, October 10, 2016 3:40 PM
*To:*RE-wrenches >
*Subject:*Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Recombiner

The GSLC gives the system a nice finished appearance that the
customer will understand. Suck it up and live with the imperfect
world we function in.

On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 5:55 PM, William Miller
> wrote:

Friends:

I am looking for a PV recombiner.  I need to accept the outputs
from 3 remote PV Combiners, send those outputs through GFP
circuit breakers, into charge controllers, back thorough
breaker, into a bus bar, through a main breaker and onto a large
battery bank.

I am using 2 Outback Radian inverters, but I refuse to install
DC breakers on their dead-front because wiring to studs facing
away from the front is an inferior design.  Furthermore, I see
no need to run PV circuits through the GSLC cabinets.

I looked at the Midnite MNDC15 but again, these use panel
mounted breakers with studs on the back.

Anyone know of a more thoughtfully designed PV recombiner?

Thanks in advance,

William Miller


Lic 773985
millersolar.com 
805-438-5600 


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Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Recombiner

[Jerry Shafer]

You might want to look at the square D QO breaker line some are dc rated
and voltage rated and are panel mounted.
Jerry

On Oct 10, 2016 3:00 PM, "jay"  wrote:

> I”ll chime in here.
>
> Yes the GSLC is a piece of junk.
> However it is UL listed for the job. And while you could put together
> something that would work with Airpax breakers together, but it wouldn’t be
> UL.
>
> What I do is to swap out all the wires to Arctic ultra flex.  This allows
> much better movement of the wires with significantly less stress on the
> terminals.   And if you want to not attach wires to the back of the
> breakers then you can and I’ve seen outback do it, install lay in lugs
> facing outwards so you can use a screwdriver or allen key on them.  Allows
> for installation and removal of wire without removal of the breaker or the
> plate/breakers.  With thimbles of course. And I can’t find them but I know
> they make them, shields that fit between each breaker so the lay in lugs
> are insulated.
>
> jay
> peltz power
>
>
> On Oct 10, 2016, at 4:40 PM, William Miller 
> wrote:
>
> Chris:
>
>
> Thank you for the reply.  I think you misunderstand me.  We always use the
> GSLC cabinets.  I just don’t like the design concept that clutters the
> cabinet with AC and DC breakers that are difficult to access and block
> other components.  See photo below of a prewired GSLC Cabinet we were asked
> to work in.  Not a good scenario.
>
>
> We have created an installation standard using the GSLC that minimizes the
> problems inherent with the design.  We run all AC leads to adjacent load
> centers and we try to minimize the DC breakers in the cabinet.  It is our
> goal to completely eliminate all breakers from the removable dead-front.  I
> think it is pretty self-explanatory why one would not prefer to make
> connections in a hard to reach location.
>
>
> Our goal is to constantly improve our installation procedures to create
> better, safer and more efficient installations.
>
>
> Also, I don’t need someone to instruct me on how to make a “finished”
> looking install. If you are familiar with my work you know it is as clean
> as it gets.  Review my web site.  Below is but one example of one of our
> installs.
>
>
> And lastly, “suck it up” is not a very complimentary phrase.  Please,
> let’s keep it professional.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> William Miller
>
>
> 
>
> Figure 1 Factory wired GSLC
>
>
> 
>
> Figure 2 Miller Solar installed GSLC..
>
>
> 
> Lic 773985
> millersolar.com 
> 805-438-5600
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Chris Mason
> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 3:40 PM
> *To:* RE-wrenches 
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Recombiner
>
>
> The GSLC gives the system a nice finished appearance that the customer
> will understand. Suck it up and live with the imperfect world we function
> in.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 5:55 PM, William Miller 
> wrote:
>
> Friends:
>
>
> I am looking for a PV recombiner.  I need to accept the outputs from 3
> remote PV Combiners, send those outputs through GFP circuit breakers, into
> charge controllers, back thorough breaker, into a bus bar, through a main
> breaker and onto a large battery bank.
>
>
> I am using 2 Outback Radian inverters, but I refuse to install DC breakers
> on their dead-front because wiring to studs facing away from the front is
> an inferior design.  Furthermore, I see no need to run PV circuits through
> the GSLC cabinets.
>
>
> I looked at the Midnite MNDC15 but again, these use panel mounted breakers
> with studs on the back.
>
>
> Anyone know of a more thoughtfully designed PV recombiner?
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
> William Miller
>
>
>
>
> 
> Lic 773985
> millersolar.com 
> 805-438-5600
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Recombiner

[jay]

I”ll chime in here.

Yes the GSLC is a piece of junk.  
However it is UL listed for the job. And while you could put together something 
that would work with Airpax breakers together, but it wouldn’t be UL.

What I do is to swap out all the wires to Arctic ultra flex.  This allows much 
better movement of the wires with significantly less stress on the terminals.   
And if you want to not attach wires to the back of the breakers then you can 
and I’ve seen outback do it, install lay in lugs facing outwards so you can use 
a screwdriver or allen key on them.  Allows for installation and removal of 
wire without removal of the breaker or the plate/breakers.  With thimbles of 
course. And I can’t find them but I know they make them, shields that fit 
between each breaker so the lay in lugs are insulated.

jay
peltz power


> On Oct 10, 2016, at 4:40 PM, William Miller  wrote:
> 
> Chris:
>  
> Thank you for the reply.  I think you misunderstand me.  We always use the 
> GSLC cabinets.  I just don’t like the design concept that clutters the 
> cabinet with AC and DC breakers that are difficult to access and block other 
> components.  See photo below of a prewired GSLC Cabinet we were asked to work 
> in.  Not a good scenario.
>  
> We have created an installation standard using the GSLC that minimizes the 
> problems inherent with the design.  We run all AC leads to adjacent load 
> centers and we try to minimize the DC breakers in the cabinet.  It is our 
> goal to completely eliminate all breakers from the removable dead-front.  I 
> think it is pretty self-explanatory why one would not prefer to make 
> connections in a hard to reach location. 
>  
> Our goal is to constantly improve our installation procedures to create 
> better, safer and more efficient installations.  
>  
> Also, I don’t need someone to instruct me on how to make a “finished” looking 
> install. If you are familiar with my work you know it is as clean as it gets. 
>  Review my web site.  Below is but one example of one of our installs.
>  
> And lastly, “suck it up” is not a very complimentary phrase.  Please, let’s 
> keep it professional.
>  
> Sincerely,
>  
> William Miller
>  
> 
> Figure 1 Factory wired GSLC
> 
>  
> 
> Figure 2 Miller Solar installed GSLC..
> 
>  
> 
> Lic 773985
> millersolar.com 
> 805-438-5600
>  
> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
> ] On Behalf Of Chris Mason
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 3:40 PM
> To: RE-wrenches  >
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Recombiner
>  
> The GSLC gives the system a nice finished appearance that the customer will 
> understand. Suck it up and live with the imperfect world we function in. 
>  
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 5:55 PM, William Miller  > wrote:
>> Friends:
>>  
>> I am looking for a PV recombiner.  I need to accept the outputs from 3 
>> remote PV Combiners, send those outputs through GFP circuit breakers, into 
>> charge controllers, back thorough breaker, into a bus bar, through a main 
>> breaker and onto a large battery bank.
>>  
>> I am using 2 Outback Radian inverters, but I refuse to install DC breakers 
>> on their dead-front because wiring to studs facing away from the front is an 
>> inferior design.  Furthermore, I see no need to run PV circuits through the 
>> GSLC cabinets.
>>  
>> I looked at the Midnite MNDC15 but again, these use panel mounted breakers 
>> with studs on the back.
>>  
>> Anyone know of a more thoughtfully designed PV recombiner?
>>  
>> Thanks in advance,
>>  
>> William Miller
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> Lic 773985
>> millersolar.com 
>> 805-438-5600 
>>  
>> 
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>  
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Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Recombiner

[William Miller]

Chris:



Thank you for the reply.  I think you misunderstand me.  We always use the
GSLC cabinets.  I just don’t like the design concept that clutters the
cabinet with AC and DC breakers that are difficult to access and block
other components.  See photo below of a prewired GSLC Cabinet we were asked
to work in.  Not a good scenario.



We have created an installation standard using the GSLC that minimizes the
problems inherent with the design.  We run all AC leads to adjacent load
centers and we try to minimize the DC breakers in the cabinet.  It is our
goal to completely eliminate all breakers from the removable dead-front.  I
think it is pretty self-explanatory why one would not prefer to make
connections in a hard to reach location.



Our goal is to constantly improve our installation procedures to create
better, safer and more efficient installations.



Also, I don’t need someone to instruct me on how to make a “finished”
looking install. If you are familiar with my work you know it is as clean
as it gets.  Review my web site.  Below is but one example of one of our
installs.



And lastly, “suck it up” is not a very complimentary phrase.  Please, let’s
keep it professional.



Sincerely,



William Miller



Figure 1 Factory wired GSLC



Figure 2 Miller Solar installed GSLC..



[image: Gradient Cap_mini]
Lic 773985
millersolar.com 
805-438-5600



*From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
Behalf Of *Chris Mason
*Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 3:40 PM
*To:* RE-wrenches 
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Recombiner



The GSLC gives the system a nice finished appearance that the customer will
understand. Suck it up and live with the imperfect world we function in.



On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 5:55 PM, William Miller 
wrote:

Friends:



I am looking for a PV recombiner.  I need to accept the outputs from 3
remote PV Combiners, send those outputs through GFP circuit breakers, into
charge controllers, back thorough breaker, into a bus bar, through a main
breaker and onto a large battery bank.



I am using 2 Outback Radian inverters, but I refuse to install DC breakers
on their dead-front because wiring to studs facing away from the front is
an inferior design.  Furthermore, I see no need to run PV circuits through
the GSLC cabinets.



I looked at the Midnite MNDC15 but again, these use panel mounted breakers
with studs on the back.



Anyone know of a more thoughtfully designed PV recombiner?



Thanks in advance,



William Miller





[image: Gradient Cap_mini]
Lic 773985
millersolar.com 
805-438-5600




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Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Recombiner

[Chris Mason]

The GSLC gives the system a nice finished appearance that the customer will
understand. Suck it up and live with the imperfect world we function in.

On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 5:55 PM, William Miller 
wrote:

> Friends:
>
>
>
> I am looking for a PV recombiner.  I need to accept the outputs from 3
> remote PV Combiners, send those outputs through GFP circuit breakers, into
> charge controllers, back thorough breaker, into a bus bar, through a main
> breaker and onto a large battery bank.
>
>
>
> I am using 2 Outback Radian inverters, but I refuse to install DC breakers
> on their dead-front because wiring to studs facing away from the front is
> an inferior design.  Furthermore, I see no need to run PV circuits through
> the GSLC cabinets.
>
>
>
> I looked at the Midnite MNDC15 but again, these use panel mounted breakers
> with studs on the back.
>
>
>
> Anyone know of a more thoughtfully designed PV recombiner?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
> William Miller
>
>
>
>
>
> [image: Gradient Cap_mini]
> Lic 773985
> millersolar.com 
> 805-438-5600
>
>
>
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[RE-wrenches] PV Recombiner

[William Miller]

Friends:



I am looking for a PV recombiner.  I need to accept the outputs from 3
remote PV Combiners, send those outputs through GFP circuit breakers, into
charge controllers, back thorough breaker, into a bus bar, through a main
breaker and onto a large battery bank.



I am using 2 Outback Radian inverters, but I refuse to install DC breakers
on their dead-front because wiring to studs facing away from the front is
an inferior design.  Furthermore, I see no need to run PV circuits through
the GSLC cabinets.



I looked at the Midnite MNDC15 but again, these use panel mounted breakers
with studs on the back.



Anyone know of a more thoughtfully designed PV recombiner?



Thanks in advance,



William Miller





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